Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 122 : Biggie And Tupac

Episode Date: July 7, 2021

Suge Knight gave Brian and James Aids.

Biggie Yes And Tupac Biggie and Tupac Now you definitely You can take The lead on this

Because I am a novice And I'll be honest with you When I was growing up I was disgusted By this Criminal I was like Tipper Gore

I had a picture Tipper G I was like She's the real G Yeah She's a boss Who is Tipper Gore Was she someone's bitch

Who is Al Gore No Is she not Al Gore's wife? That does make sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And yeah, so she was very much... So funny how he's like, climate change and she's like, oh, no, this is the real danger.

The two live crew. They're the ones. Black people rhyming. That's the real danger. But, uh, okay. Now, well, like, you're the one who decided to talk about it. So I will jump in, but like, where, what got you interested? Why did you decide or what was your starting point? Well, I'll tell you what. I have to give your roommates credit.

Okay. So, no, don't. I don't want them getting a big ego. Yeah, yeah. Rune was getting too big for his boots. That's why he met with a little accident. A little fall. Yeah, yeah.

No, so we were recording episode last week. Yes. I know we came down, we're like, fuck, we're high-fiving. Yeah, yeah. I had my shirt off. We're like, we're doing beer bongs. Yeah, yeah. I was acting like I scored a goal in the World Cup.

You know, I was running around the place. I was like, yeah. And then we came to. down, your roommates are watching straight out of Compton. Now immediately, I was like, what the fuck? Stand your grass! I was like, where's my wallet? They're going to come out. It's like

the ring. They're going to come out with the TV. But then I calmed down. In seven days, they're going to come over and fuck my wife. I know, love it. No, so you can't me down eventually, okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of like a... It's that thing where I just rub your earlobes

with olive oil. No, you have to put a wallet in my mouth so you calm me down okay and I started watching it yes

and after a while it's like wait a minute these criminals are actually poets they're artists

yeah yeah and at the end I was completely turned around you were yeah I was like

fuck the police yeah yeah oh yeah I can say it I can see it I do they do have attitude

and then you sent a series of emails with the the title was I was wrong about George Floyd yeah yeah after a full year I'll finally admit

I might have jumped to conclusions you can thank Ice Cube for that but anyway oh yeah so you watch straight out of Compton then you were like well you know Dr. Dre actually has a bit of a negative back story yes so I actually knew about this so

like when the movie came out and like straight out of Compton it was like people really liked it or whatever it was huge yeah Yeah, but everyone, like, oh, not everyone, but a lot of people was like, well, it's really whitewashing a lot of things in particular. Dr. Dre's extensive history of domestic abuse. And he has had multiple women that he was with, wives, girlfriends, whatever, saying he was incredibly violently, violent and abusive, physically abusive, blah, blah, blah. And there's some very famous one, like, Dee Barnes, she was like a journalist or something.

She did work for MTV, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, so... And didn't she, like, homeless now? Oh, probably. I saw some video recently where she was basically like, yeah, I'm, you know, every day, I'm day to day, basically. Yeah, you know? If I don't get, I can't afford bread. She's basically like that, you know?

I can either get bread or my medication. Yeah, yeah. So, but yeah, it was at like a party or something or at some kind of event, but like, it was a very public thing, even when it happened. But, yeah, Dr. Dre beat the shit out of her, like, slapped her around. threw her down some stairs. Yeah, yeah, it wasn't public and it's actually, it's kind of funny. There's like an interview afterwards with like, uh, REM.

MC Wren and he said bitch had it coming. Yeah, well it's so funny though. He's basically going off like, oh, the bitch had it coming, you know, what do you expect? Yeah. And fucking easy ease there as well, it's being like, is this national television, is this, just being broadcast? Okay, cool, yeah. Ooh, this is the worst thing that happened

to me. Bit of blood, don't matter. Anybody got any? strepsels. I need a lozenge. I need a lot of them. So, like... So, yeah, that was the first one I heard about. And then I kind of looked into it.

This is like years ago. Because I actually heard about it from the song Guilty Conscience. Who did that? There was Eminem and Dr. Dre. It was like an Eminem's first album or whatever. And there's literally a line that's like, you're going to take advice from someone who slept Dee Barnes? And Dr. Dre is like, what you say, motherfucker?

Like, they played off as a joke. It's funny. Yeah, yeah. Hey, you know what? You know what people do, you know, self-deprecation. That's right, yeah, yeah. And it's endearing. Like, yeah, I did beat my wife.

Yeah. People were like, yes. But that was literally it. He just, like, it was kind of like they referenced it in a joking way. It's crazy how to mention the name. Yeah, literally. But that's how public it was. Even when it happened, people were going mad about it.

And then there's that other one, Michelet. She's an R&B singer. Michelet. Michelais. Mike. Mickey. Mickey. Big Mick.

Mickey Finn. Mickey Finn. No, he's cool. So Michelet, okay. Yeah. So she actually, and I've watched this. You haven't watched this. Have you?

No. I haven't. No, no, no. So straight out Compton came out. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And in that, Dr. Dre, he's pretty boring in it, actually. Really boring. And the actor that plays him is not very good.

No, he's the real weak link in the whole. Big time. Everyone else is so good. Yeah, like everyone, like, fucking. Oh, Shea Jackson. He's fantastic. He gets my approval. Yeah.

And that's very rare. Oh, it is. Yeah, yeah. Your nose is even bleeding right now, as you say that. Yeah, but he is great. He's going to be in the new, he's going to be new Obi-1 Canobi series. See, what I like now is obviously, so he played his dad and everyone was kind of like, oh, yeah, he's just playing his dad, you know, it's whatever one-note kind of thing. But then I saw him in Ingrid Goes West, where he plays this real kind of, like, nerdy guy who's obsessed with Batman.

man he's fantastic in it so i genuinely think you know i see big things for him i think he will do some really good work i hope you know what's funny i was a bit down the dumps recently because i haven't seen him in ages yeah what's going on probably the industry probably got to him and made him wear a dress so i looked up he's actually he's got two tv shows coming out okay and obi one as well yeah and like another thing so he's doing great that's good good to hear god I don't want to be walking around Dublin's him on the street next to Dee Barnes

they're sharing a loaf of bread together but yeah so everyone's great but the guy who plays Dr. Dre is not good and his character is so like nothing and bland literally he's just the kind of like the straight guy who does all the work yeah literally he does all the work and makes all the right choices

he never even fights with anyone in the band which was such bullshit like the whole kind of beef between Drey and EZE and Ice Cube Very well documented Isn't he like as well like Easy E's like walking down the street And he's like no try speed it up

Yeah yeah yeah And try to make it sound good He's like okay Mr Drey I'll try How do I do this rapping business Dre? This is crazy Yeah No no he's literally like

How do I perform as a top quality rapper Yeah And he's like well first of all Maybe put your sunglasses on money yeah yeah and he put sunglasses on it's like she now I'm with it oh yeah yeah but that is literally that's a scene yeah now they do say that easy E because he was like he started off as literally like he was a drug dealer and he kind of encompassed the life that they the rest of them only rapped about the rest of them

were very much were artists who reflect you know what's going on around us but EZE really lived the life or whatever so we gave them credibility but he didn't really know how to rap or shit so he they do say like they did help him in the start but yeah it really look dray makes it look like i just he didn't know how to do anything i got this riff-rap off the street yeah literally into something because i'm a genius even like there's a line in it where like dr dr dr dr jay is like working for his original boss like the man's got no vision it's like shut off there's no way you said that it's like it's like it's like they make it seem like in the movie he like completely envisioned everything that was

going to happen. He like, he basically like, yeah, gangster rap. That'll become huge and it's all thanks to me. You know, it's very very, I don't know, self-congdature. He is portraying almost like a Steve Jobsy kind of like, amazing genius. But, um,

so anyway, so the movie came out. Yes. And Michelle Lee saw this and she was like, well, you've kind of skipped over a few tiny old details. Yes. So she produced her own TV movie called Surviving Compton. Yeah. She produced it. She actually is in it.

She plays herself. Oh, really? And she narrates the film as well. And the other girl playing her in the film, but she's like the, what would you call it, the ever-present narrate the... Narator. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

The talking bitch. I was afraid, because you start off, she's the narrator. I was like, no, Brian, no, you had to fight that urge. And I'm proud of you. Yeah, yeah. She plays the talking bitch, you know, right?

So, yeah, I want, it's good. Okay. It's a surprising. Now, obviously, it's a TV movie. It's probably made in like three weeks. I probably will watch it because it's interesting to me. Plus, it's got my main man, Jamie Kennedy, as Jerry Heller. Now, they do...

Who are two of my icons combined to what? Now, they do Jerry Heller the right way in this film. Yeah, a sympathetic man who just wants to control these gravel rosers, these artists. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, he's just trying to control, like, come on, guys, please. They're like, we don't care about you, Jerry. Shut your ass up, Jerry. Slapping around. I'm a fuck you bitch.

Yeah, just slapping around. He was like, oh, guys, they're just rough housing. Oh, you, you fellas keep me young, I tell you. There's literally a bit in this, okay. I have to look up to see if, like, Jerry Heller was any way involved in this film, okay? I was literally bitten it where they're like, yo, Jerry, where's our money? You don't respect us, Jerry. Fucking Jew, fucking Jew, where's our money?

He's like, I gave you the checks. I don't know where it's gone. It turns out they're all in the post box. they just didn't take... Yeah, Dr. Drey forgot to check the post box and it's like nine months worth of checks.

Yeah, literally millions of dollars worth of checks. Yeah, and they're like, we still don't respect you, Jerry. You respect me to get this shit out the letterbox? Oh, I'm gonna do that, master. Motherfucker, get me my shit right now.

Okay, please don't hit me again, yo. Yeah. Yeah, but it is, you know what, for a film that, you know, didn't have probably one of 100% of the budget that's solid math you can trust beyond that this is

very little percent yeah okay for a film to probably micro budget you know probably the same budget as like an episode one of those horses but those lifetime movies I mean that's like a little kind of cottage industry in and of itself you know obviously it's shite but they do have enough to like

kind of facilitate churning out these movies on the reg I know, but they probably like, it was a time limit as well. But it's good, is what I'm saying, okay? Now, we have to address one thing, okay? Now, obviously, you shouldn't hit a woman,

but she does have a very squeaky voice. Really squeaky. It is cartoonish. Literally, she sounds like a cartoon character. I was trying to do an imitation in my car on the way up here. Yeah, yeah. But, like, okay, I'll try and do it.

I will, well, Tracy, like, hit me in. That's even, that's human. Yeah. It's, she literally. It's so hard to... She sounds like she's from adventure time. Yeah, yeah. It's weird.

But the thing is, like, she does sound like that when she sings, it's like, my people go fide and put a widow. It's like beautiful. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, no, she's very talented. But then, like, she just sound like a dog toy. Fucking squeaky bitch.

But she, I tell you what, when you get over the... You know a lot of things. Don't judge a book by its cover. Because when you first hear her, like... I never do. I don't read books because I'm not a fucking nerd. I see a book, you know what I do? I jizz on the cover.

That's how I judge it. To assert dominance. Yeah. Think you better than me? Then I see the librarian and like, you're next. But like, when you get past the voice, he's actually pretty sound lady.

Yeah, like I've seen her in interviews, like, and she is, she seems cool. And you all like about her as well. She's not like, she's like, yeah, you know. He hit her. me. Yeah.

Don't like him. She has a kid with Drey, didn't she? Yeah. I think she's a kid with Dre and a kid with show.

Yeah. Yeah. God. So, so. So, so. I say those boys are

adventurous. Yeah. So, so her story basically like she's just a squeaky woman. She works in the shop. Yeah.

And then she's like singing. That's probably bullshit. But in the film, she's like singing while like, you know, putting, you know, hanging up shirts. Yeah.

Like, ooh, I love hanging up shirts and then Dre's like man you got a crazy voice that's beautiful honey come around the studio next Tuesday and she's like okay you got it Dre and then she comes over studio and all the

other guys are like who's this squeaky bitch who is squeaky age bitch and then she starts saying her like whoa so then he starts dating her I've been wrong about women my whole life and you know what this is the thing I think is true with all abusers okay is at the start

Dre is so nice Yeah yeah What they call that love bombing Where they just like They shower you with affection Right It's just like I love you I love you I love you

You don't bitch Yeah like at the start He's like calling every day Just being like Hey just want to wake you up in the morning And say that you're a special person Yeah yeah And that's it you know

No blow jobs or anything Wow Yeah he just likes her for her And it's like the minute Like he gets her pregnant And it's like you know clobber in time it's turbo time so like

he like her mother in the film is like you got to stay with him no matter what he's rich and successful you stay with him no matter what so like Dre at this time I already had like seven kids with like seven different women

and he's like oh honey does I not mention that ain't nothing but a jeet thing baby another bitch Kevin, my baby. And Michelle Lays' mother's like, hey, that's what you got. He's a, he's a rich man. Yeah. You just got to stay with him.

Sure he's cheating on you. Sure he hits you. Just got to stay with him the whole time. Yeah. And then like, you know, he's like slapping around and stuff. Jesus. Could you have, I mean, you know, not that it's funny or anything, but just, I wonder what it sounded like when he was slapping around it.

Yeah. Like a squeaky door. Everybody walking past probably thought it's like, oh, somebody's playing their video game off the line. what is that leap frog or pong he even shot at her really yeah and this is stuff that this isn't like a he shed he he shed he shed seashells by the whore this isn't that he said she said it's all about the he said um this he's admitted it he's like yeah i did it yeah he's admitted it yeah but it's all like you know i was a young man I was foolish I was foolish I was like nah pal we were all young and foolish and drank a lot Never hit no women, though. I didn't, like, do it, like, to every woman I've ever encountered. And it's also interesting.

This is actually a very interesting look into an abusive relationship. So you said love bombing. Yeah. And also what he does a lot is, like, he'll hit her and then start crying. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that confuses him. Yeah, that's, like, kind of gaslighting it. Or not even gas, but it is, like, yeah, it kind of make,

he's trying to make himself seem really vulnerable and tortured. He's like, I'm so sorry, I didn't mean it. Well, he doesn't apologize. He starts crying. Oh, okay. And she's like, oh, I assume it's because of the hitting. Yeah, okay.

Yeah. So. Really, he's just looking at Warren G's album sales. Doesn't even make sense. He was very successful. So, like, he's, like,

punching her in the stomach and shit like that in front of people in public and stuff like that. Yeah, he only hits her in the face when they're behind closed doors, but in the stomach all day along. So he's, like, being awful, all right? Yeah. And then she, and then Shug Nis is so, like,

bad type, like, so unlucky. Shug Knight sees this and he's like, you shouldn't be with a man like that and he starts being really nice to her and she's like oh Dr. Dre is like this real volatile angry guy and now I need like a quiet sort of church mouse type character

I'll start dating Shug Night which like so man Michelet she's tiny right she's like this tiny little woman and Shug Night is fucking huge he's like six foot four about fucking three feet wide he's massive

yeah he's like he's a former NFL player yeah he played for the Rams for like two games big guy yeah he was uh he actually this is funny he played for like um he was big football star when he was in college and he played for the Rams apparently they all bullied him really yeah that just shows how big those NFL players are like where shug Knight was the runt of the litter yeah yeah boss this is before he got like real extreme gangstery yeah yeah like he was always involved in the bloods but I think after the NFL he got full into that and also like he was like a bodyguard and so he got into the music industry

and of course the famous story were like the vanilla ice he like held what is it he dangled him out of window that's the extreme version of the story the more let the least extreme is he just like had him at the balcony was kind of like

I will throw you over unless you uh was it give us the rights to yeah he was working Shug Night was working for a guy I think he was called something like it was something like chocolate oh like chocolate

loaf or something like that yeah yeah yeah and Shug Night God I hope that's his name because if it's not we're in trouble baby it was Warren Mr. Chocolate Man Derek

so um yeah so basically vanilla ice had stolen a song lyrics right yeah I stole a song from chocolate chocolate man

all right And then like Shugnight threatened him And because of that a lot of people the industry are like hey Shugnight's a good man to have around Yeah yeah he gets it done Yeah yeah yeah, yeah He don't play by the rules No and that's what you need

You need a maverick you know Because everybody knows that people in the music industry They're the most by the book Virtuous straight arrows you'll ever meet Well the Shug Night, Shugnight is basically like he was giving back to the community He was like hey look I'll start off my own record label I'll hire a bunch of my chums to work with me

My schoolyard pals. Yeah. And that's how, and who did he hook up with then? He was with Tupac. Tupac, yeah. Well, see, death row, see, yeah, so fucking Ice Cube left NWA.

He went and did his own thing. But then Dr. Drea left NWA. He then hooked up with Shug Knight and they started Death Row records. And then they brought Tupac into the mix. I think they brought Tupac in after he did. time for the rape that he claims

he didn't do. Yes. Now, do you want to get into the rape? Should we maybe finish the Michelet thing? Yes, yes, you're right. Well, Michelet is just to say, like, so in the film, she starts dating Shog Night then. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then Shug Knight, obviously is abusive to her as well. Yeah. And he's kind of like, when he goes to prison for assault. Yes. She kind of wants him to do everything. And, and, you know, And basically kind of like being charge of like criminal enterprise basically, you know. Oh, okay.

And he wants sort of like handle money and pay off certain people. Right, right, right. Yeah, because death row records were like they were involved in like drug trafficking, corruption, embezzlement. There was even links to the rampart scandal. Yeah, yeah. I mean, they were a huge, they were basically a criminal organization who just had. That also produced music. Yeah, literally.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. So, like, I mean, you could make. make the argument like a lot of record labels kind of like link into organized crime even back to like Frank Sinatra and stuff but death of records they wore it as a badge of honor as like we are in the streets

we're thugs we don't give a fuck kind of thing let's be honest here okay you can be critical all you want James but to make it oh how is I to make it you're like bad mountain the music industry yeah you're right

what am I saying nothing but you're angels but like to make it in like that times like even like the 30s and 40s okay yeah you had to like grease a few hands oh absolutely and that still goes on today and it's even like I mean

you know not to get too conspiratorial but like you know intelligence agencies have like big stake and like uh the movie industry and the music industry and then there there is an overlap with organized crime it's one big horrible cesspool of this you know

you know corruption and what what have you but that's just the nature of the beast. Yeah. What are you going to do? And it's worth it in the end.

Ah, yeah. Hey, look, I like movies and music. So if some bitches got to die, bitches got to die. Me sure they didn't

die. She survived. So at the end, it's like some kind of thing like, and I managed to. I ain't taking your shit no more.

Yeah. And he's like, whoa. But I think she still kind of maintains a somewhat decent relationship. Well, you have to.

She's not kids with them. Exactly. That's what I mean. Like, they keep it amicable. It is funny how, it must be awkward for like a parent-teacher meeting

we're like oh my my ex-wife made a film about how abusive I am that must be a bit awkward yeah

yeah yeah I'm not looking forward to that but okay yeah so that's Michelet so yeah straight out of Compton really avoided

talking about you know Dr. Dre's domestic abuse so where do you want to go now Tupac well

here's your option do Everson just to choose your own adventure all right here we go do you want to go Tupac

or Biggie I mean we've already talked about Tupac and I think talking about Tupac will lead into Biggie anyway Yeah So

Well I wanted to jump into The rape straight away Okay We probably should jump We'll start off We don't even need to look So yeah Tupac hooks up

With Death Row records After his He did time on a rape charge So just yeah We'll go into the rape Yeah Okay Yeah

It's interesting Everyone knows who Tupac is It's not like He was a rapper Picture this Okay A man But, you know, funny about Tupac is he really, when he hooked up with Death Row was all pushing the thug life, he was a theatre kid.

He went to an art school in New York. He was into acting and music. Jada Pinkett Smith. Yeah, they were like best friends. But now his mother was a black panther though. Yeah, yeah. And the father, the whole family were like black panthers. Yeah, yeah.

So then her mother became, his mother actually became into, like got addicted to crack. Yeah. So he's very familiar with kind of like I heard she was selling that booty Probably That's what I heard

For my home dogs And Carlo Yeah They're all taking turns on her Yeah What's her Fucking Well I wouldn't know

His mother's name Yeah I don't know But yeah She had a problem With drugs For a long time Yeah

So you know Although he Two packs He didn't He didn't like Grow up As a thug Or a

criminal or anything He was very aware of that life Because of his mother's history and her problems with drugs and, you know, the kind of black militant stuff. And also probably like his views and authority because like the FBI were like monitoring them and stuff like that. Yeah, yeah. And like, you know, the cops would raid their house and stuff. So yeah, yeah. But like it's just very much there was a kind of a theatrical element

to the character that he played. He kind of started kind of, oh, I'm just rapping about the thug life, but then he started living it. It was ultimately it was his downfall. It's the same with like Ice Cube, wasn't it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. These guys... But I don't think Ice Cube never really, like, you know, he kind of puts across the image or whatever

and, you know, plays into it and whatnot. And maybe, yeah, he got in a few fights and stuff, but he never, like, fucked around with dealing drugs or he doesn't have much of a criminal history. No, no, no, no. Well, Ice Cube had a little bit... I don't want to say better head in the shoulders, but a little bit more, I think, common sense to be like,

I won't get too far and... lifestyle, where the problem is Tupac had the devil aka Shug Knight on his shoulder and Shug Knight was the one who was like lead them down the dark patch. Yes. And eventually Tupac started to believe his own, his own myth

his own mythology. His own hype. Yeah. So the rape case, did you look into that at all? I did yeah. It's an interesting. Now this really is a he said, she said kind of thing where his version is that like they had a girl up and there was a couple of them

all like taking turns on her Right And then like he went to bed Yeah And then after he went to bed The other guys like Haitian Jack And henchmen Yeah

Were their names Yes Haitian Jack actually Unsolved He's played by Turk That's right Yeah Yeah

I was fun I was like oh Turk Yeah He was good in it too Yeah I wish I want to see more of him More Turk playing a bad guy That's what we need

More Turk is the rapist That's I've been saying that for years They would have made scrubs Way more interesting That's not quite how you said It's like Turks are rapist But I trust me

Every time I watch Scrubs I was like watch out JD Carla run He'll get the janitor He'll get everyone But yeah So yeah

So like his story is like He went to bed And Haitian Jack And the other guys Got too rough with her Yeah And then she beat her and raped her And then she accused

The whole gang Of rape And because he'd already banged her His DNA was also involved So that's what he says Yeah And she says it was just Straight up like

She was like No they all raped me All four of them Just like I held her down. So. Now, I am always interested when they betray something like this where no one knows what really happened apart from like the five people in the room. The people involved.

I'm always interested how they betray this in media. Yeah. So in the two-pack movie All Lies on Me. Yeah. They basically just portray Tupac's version. Yes. Yeah. Yeah.

But in Unsolved. They do a much smarter version, I think. Yeah. And it's quite ambiguous. You see her basically going up. you see her getting into the elevator to go up to the room and then it kind of shows like a clock it cuts to the clock a few hours later and the elevator doors open

and she's running out all disheveled and bleeding so it's very ambiguous and like we don't we never saw into the room or what happened and that's kind of where we're at with the story because we know his version we know her version but we don't know for sure which is the truth Actually, the two-pack movie, All Eyes on Me is pretty funny

because they literally do have her like in the courtroom being like, he-he. Literally being like looking around and like, yeah, I fooled them all. Everyone knows us girls have our little, we spin our little webs. Like when the judge is like,

we find you guilty, she's like, hmm. She stands up like, yeah, my plan is work to take down the main. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, you can speculate all day, but, you know, either way, he went to jail. He did time for it. He went to jail. He did time.

Yeah. Now, another interesting thing, I mentioned a Tupac movie. There's rumors that Tupac was raped in prison. I mean, you could see it, I guess, because he's a kind of small guy. Yeah. And I don't know. With a celebrity that big, would they allow him to be in that position? Or maybe the prison?

With the white prison guards? Yeah, you're right, actually. Yeah, I'm sorry. That was very, very naive. The white prison guards would always protect him. They'd be making them camemoyal tea. Yeah. No, you're right.

Did read him, Good Night Moon. So he says he was raped by other inmates. He doesn't say, there's rumors that he was raped. Now, he doesn't say he was raped. I think he dropped a few hints in some songs. People say he dropped hints. You know, read into it what you will. A lot of people read into his music.

What I was going to say is John Singleton, you know him? The Filmmaker? Yeah, yeah. Did Boys in the Hood? Yeah, he was going to make a two-pack movie. Okay. And in that, they were full on going to have a rape scene in it.

Wow. Of Tupac getting raped. And it was going to be called Two-Pack More Dick in my ass. Yay, there we go. Yeah. There we go. And apparently the two-pack estate had a little problem with that.

Yeah, I'd imagine, yeah. Even though his mother was like, you know, two-pack more dick? Do you get it? Ah, you're probably high Get off that rock, Mrs. Shakur. So he got out of prison and teamed up with Shug. Yeah.

And then they went down a dark pat and Shug was very much like, let's hype up this rap beef. Let's get more involved with the actual crime side of it. Yeah, yeah. It was kind of like let's go to war with the East Coast because also the shooting had happened in the studio in New York, right? That was before the... That was after he signed with Shug Night.

Was it? No, I think it was... Oh, I don't know. No, no, what happened is he signed with Shug Night, okay? And Shug Night at the start, basically was love bombing him, being like, yeah, you get more control over your music. Yeah, yeah, yeah. More control over the content. I will be telling you, you can't include these lyrics.

Yeah, yeah. And, you know, he was like, you know, at start like, hey, we'll play into this beef between you and Biggie. Yeah, yeah. Okay. But we're not going to kill anyone. Yeah. But then after shooting... Just to go back to one thing real quick.

Well, you're interrupting me, but okay. Did I? Sorry, what were you saying? No, it's ruined. I'm sorry. No, I've forgotten. You go ahead. No, come on. Now I feel like a dickhead. Oh, give me time.

Oh, see, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, the Euros are on. No. No, I was just going to say that, like, after he got shot at the record studio, two-pack was very much like it was probably big. Biggie who done it.

Yeah. And... No, I think it was more like he... Biggie knows who did it and Biggie didn't like try and help him or help him avoid it.

Yeah, either way Tupac was like oh, he knows more and he's letting on. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then Shug could use that to be like, yeah, you know,

maybe my ideas of killing people don't seem so crazy now because they're, you know, they drew first blood. Yeah. Well, what I was going to say

is, you know how he came out of prison, hooks up with Shug Knight and really starts pushing the thug life. Fuck you. maybe that was sort of him like if he did get raped

in prison he was like I'm going to act real tough and no one's ever going to fuck with me like that again projection kind of yeah yeah that's I'm sorry and then I interrupted you yeah but then was it worked it was I think bloody good point if you asked me

actually actually was I wouldn't have put that together thanks thanks I know male rape I know real male rape and the black psyche I know you know those two things that are in my wheelhouse my PhD on it Yeah, yeah

Pretty huge dick Okay, so Yeah, so then He comes out of jail He hooks up a show night And that's when the East Coast West Coast beef Really kicks off, right?

Okay And, you know, it's a bit A lot of front-in Yes A lot of like a music Dis tracks Yeah, a disc tracks A lot like if they're like

A music award show Like, yeah, you come near me Yeah Oh, come near you Yeah Oh, too of No, you afraid. Yeah, yeah.

Like that. Well, it was more so, again, it was Shug Knight and Tupac who were really pushing it. Biggie and Puff Daddy, who are like bad boy records in the East Coast. They were just like, hey, look, you know, we're just trying to make music and we don't want any shit. Like, they have a problem with us, but we don't have a problem with them kind of thing. Yeah, well, yeah, it's just bad timing because Biggie came out with who shot you. Who shot you? But that had been recorded before the shooting in the studio, but everybody.

especially Tupac took that as a disc track directed at Tupac it's like who shot you you know like basically everyone thought

that was Biggie saying like yeah I know who did it but fuck you it's my funny it's all just a big misunderstanding

yeah it's like an episode of curb your enthusiasm you know I was gonna say yeah all the news

is one one loud Jewish lady to yell at them oh what the fuck Biggie you're coming out that fucking

chug yo food man that's the word I'll record that surely, man. Oh, shut the fuck. You fat fuck. Yeah.

Yeah, it's just the big bit. And then, you know, like, Tupac did the disc track where he said, he fucked, he fucked Faye Evans. Yeah, oh, what's the one called? Fucking. I started off, I fucked your bitch. Yeah.

Fuck, what's it? Oh, man. Why is that escaping? And you're supposed to be the gangst aren't it? I don't even know the words. It's like, oh, fuck. Hit him up. Hit him up.

Yes, that's it. Yeah, yeah. I said Yeah, that's it If I knew That yeah That does ring a bell Yes

I fucked your bitch You fat motherfucker Yeah the lyrics Are like You claim to be a gangster But I fucked your wife And he had In the music video

He had like a big fat guy Running around Yeah And they were all like Bully And I'm like Ah you fat fucker Which

I did not tear for It wasn't funny But yeah No So it got really Fucking heated And I feel like we're

Dumpin a lot of Information At the listener Yeah Well this is The This is the remedial level Our listeners

You know, they need to like Okay, you're right, yeah Okay, well let's How long we've been going, actually Yeah, we're just over an hour there We'll go, I've got more to say like Sorry, yeah, you go a little bit over Yeah, yeah, yeah, you go, I'll shut up

Good now This hear that listeners is silence Good now I'll lick my finger, Turn the page and I say, What direction shall we go here? Unsolved Yes.

a Netflix I don't know Yeah So there's a Netflix show So So both of them Got killed

Yes But Biggie and Tupac Get murdered Within a year Of each other Right Six months

Six months Yeah Yeah Biggie was 23 And Tupac was 25 So real fucking young

Yeah And Tupac was First I believe Yeah I didn't know This Until I read up

About this He was alive For like 9 days Yeah Yeah He really He like

he hung in there and people really thought he was going to live and then he just gave up, lazy no, no work ethic. But it was in the, it was in Vegas after the Mike Tyson fight and him and Shug actually jumped these guys in

the lobby of what is that the grand MGM? Yeah, so it was after Tyson fight and they saw two fellers two fellers were just hanging out there. Wasn't it? Osmosis Jones Orlando Anderson

Orlando Anderson And Keithy D There are two guys And they got an altercation in the hotel Yeah Because I think Orlando had stolen or tried to steal A death row medallion From one of the death row people

The crew Again silly stuff Yeah It's so funny how like all this snowballs From like you know Just punch ups But also like he was probably Trying to steal

that medallion just to kind of look big, you know. Yeah, yeah, because they were all like young guys in their early 20s and, you know, they just give them a lot of money. Really? It's like, you know, when you're a kid, all right, you have a snowball fight. Yeah. And then one, the kids

accidentally has a stone in there. Yeah. But because he put a stone in there accidentally now your kid's like, oh well, fuck, I'm going to put stones down on purpose, right? Yeah. Okay, and then they start throwing stones, next thing he knows, school shooting. Yes. You know, okay, That's exactly what happened with Columbine. it's preventable but also like you don't look like a wimp so you all do it that's the thing because

a lot of it like the music was all bravado and like gang culture was becoming very big obviously you have the crips and the bloods and death row records are very much linked up with the bloods paru and uh you know yeah i don't know what that means yeah because you're wider than a motherfucker right yeah hi ryan there's some white shit right there bryan who this motherfucker Pai Rue, I beg you pardon Pairoo What is that I know stick and kidney

Pai but Pairoo more like P-U So Orlando Anderson and Keefe D got an altercation with Shug and I 2-pack Story goes This is almost like

Accepted fact at this stage Okay Because so many people have These guys have admitted it Basically Yeah Yeah Again altercation

Two-pack and Shug Drive away Orlando and Kiefi D are like Let's follow him And just drive by They open fire and drive off Yeah drive by Bang bang drive away

It was a rental So just dropped the car off Yeah Now what Kee Fee D says Is that they were doing it Because Puff Daddy Had put out a hit On Tupac

Yeah Now there's no way to prove that It's very hard to prove Solicitation for murder Yeah. But I mean, this is at a time where there were, this isn't the first shooting that happened that was like directly like linked to the East Coast, West Coast thing. There had been a few shootings like so I think bad like a puff daddy. A lot of people were very paranoid and afraid. So I'm not saying he put the head out, but he might have had like protection or something or maybe somebody thought if we take out two pack, maybe Puff will. I think. You know, shit like that. It's really hard to know. I think I heard a rumor.

There is a rumor and some people have said it that, like, afterwards, Puff Daddy did buy them a car or something. He bought them, like, a real nice Jeep. It's, you know, it is entirely possible that Puff did, like, say, look, you know, they're going to, they're coming after me. Well, if they're going to come after me, I'm going to get them first. That kind of thing. Yeah.

So, now, a theory that doesn't make any sense to me is that Shug actually was in full. involved in disc killing. Yes. And he told the guys like, hey, this is a theory, okay? They're like, hey, guys, shoot at the car while I'm in it. Yeah. And graze me with a bullet so it looks real. Yeah.

And these guys are like, yeah, no bother. We're expert marksmen. We know how to graze. We're like Hawkeye and the Avengers. You know how it just graze you. Yeah. And not kill you, but make it look real. It doesn't make any sense at all.

And I think the logic behind that, if you want to call it that, or the theory behind it is because Tupac was looking to leave death row over. records. Yeah. Because I think Drey had just left or was looking to leave as well. I think a lot of people, I think at this stage, Debt Row was becoming so much about the gangster element. Yes.

The music area was almost falling apart. It went bankrupt eventually. Yeah. But at the moment, Tupac, he'd signed like, basically like a six album, some crazy deal. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Maybe like a four or five album deal. Yeah. So that's why there was so much stuff, so much unreleased.

stuff after he died because he was just pumping shit out posthumous posthumously yeah whatever that yeah

that's one of your after he was brown bread wait no I mean so so yeah that's the rumor

that he was trying to leave and then Shug Night was like Tam to kill this motherfucker doesn't make any sense but you know what

if it is true goddamn you got to I mean game respect game you gotta give it to Shug that was pretty well I

respect shug no matter what i've always said that just in case he's driving around you have yeah driving around carlo where this motherfucker stay yeah so um and then apparently just pissed off shug night because tupac was dead yeah so he was like time to take out the biggie yeah i mean they killed his cash cow so it only seems fair he'd do the same yeah yeah so where did a biggie get killed that was in l a wasn't it it was in l a they were in l a for the source of war and this is like when the fucking the beef is still at an all time high and this is saying East Coast, New York

and West Coast LA, California but L.A. specifically those were the two hot spots so everyone's like the biggie, don't go to L.A., man. People are gunning for you here. Like you will have a target on your back and he was all like no, you know, we need to end this shit

one guy already died. I'm trying to bring an end to this whole thing you know. Well, what's interesting as well is he was scared going to L.A. Yeah. But he'd also like, he'd gotten a car crash

earlier so he was like kind of fucked up anyway like he needed to use a cane. Yeah. And also he'd been gaining even more weight. Yeah, I think he was like over 400 pounds

at that point. Like he was getting to a comical amount of weight you know, like that. Yeah. Where like the cane it would have to be a mobility scooter.

Yeah. Yeah. And that's not even a joke like No, you're right. Yeah. It would have been like that bad because I think it's like

distress. You know, he's eating a lot more. Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's like it's a lot of fucking stress and like, you know, it's so funny it is literally like, you know,

the way a soldier goes to Iraq and then comes home all right? Yeah. It's like that, but they've basically created their own little rack just around the city. And it follows you everywhere you go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, another thing that can't be understated is the way the media really

hype this shit up. It sold magazines, it's sold CDs, like, you know, there were interviews. Like, the news was push it like it was fucking huge you know what I mean and the media really played up and then of course that exacerbated it even further because then

everyone was like oh shit you know I want to make a name for myself so I'm going to like pop off on this and like you know yeah basically you know rep my coast or whatever the fuck you know I'm trying to use colloquialisms here yes one does

rep one set does one not so they're both dead now they are the end the end, justice was served. So they're dead, and a lot of allegations that, like, here the thing, some people are like, the LAPD killed them. That's right. It seems to be more likely that the LAPD just don't give a fuck.

Don't give a fuck, no. And they just, like, they probably could have, you know the only way, like, we all know who killed Biggie 2Back. Yeah, well, who is it that killed Biggie? Poochie. Poochie, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. A gangster called Poochie.

Ganker, yeah. Okay. And the funny thing is, we know it, a lot of people have admitted this, but the LAPD, because it didn't go fast enough at the time, they kind of let a lot of the stuff, a lot of the evidence have just disappeared and shit, or just like, a lot of the suspects have just died. Yes, that's true, because that's thing when you live the gangster life, you don't, you know, there's not a lot of, a lot of them don't make it to middle age, you know what I mean? Yeah.

Or older. but what's interesting about the LAPD theory which I don't buy into it all but that was actually being pushed by a cop wasn't it? Yes. It was a cop in the LAPD who became convinced because there were members of the LAPD who were later implicated

in the Rampart scandal who were directly connected to Shug Knight. Like who is that one literally friends? Literally friends like they grew up together The most famous one is the one that Training Day is based on Yes, what's his name? Oh fuck I can't remember.

Oh, it's like a... He's got girls, Morris... Yeah. Perez. Perez, yes, that's his name. But I think it's like Muriel Perez. Yeah, yeah. But he was like, he...

And like, they moonlighted as security for death row records. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, you know, that's, um... I think that's why that got that cop. He, like, wrote a book about it. Well, that cop, his name was Russell Poole. Yeah. And kind of like a Gemo Daugherty in a way, actually.

He started off in the land of truth. Yes. and he was punished for it Yeah he lost his job Yeah because they were like Ah you're just fucking Crazy

No well also Just creating more work for us Like oh you want to investigate Picture this from a cut And I'm not saying I believe this Picture for a cop Like

Oh wait this guy was talking about How we're all shit Okay And how we're whiting of little dicks Now he's dead And I'm supposed to like There's nothing in there about Little Dicks

Yes there was I definitely heard it Okay The subtext Yeah okay And now he's dead I'm supposed to investigate Or what

Waste my time I'm going to watch a Red Sox I'll go watch the Dodgers game You know Nice safe Yeah Oh jeez that was close Going to get cancelled

That was the one thing We'd have to redact From this episode I have to do a little thing To start like Hey guys This one's fun Just let you guys know

Okay I know it's Dodgers Not Red So please Don't send me threatening emails Yeah So the guy Russell Poole

He went spastic down He went mental And he was like proper, you know, like a Howard Hughes type. He was all smelly and he was like, oh, man, you don't understand, man. It was like, there was like 600 people involved in his case, man. It goes up to the very Reagan was involved and the queen of England. Yeah, yeah. Charity Houghty, he was the trigger man.

But yeah, so, yeah, they never, but everybody kind of knows who it was, but they just, they refuse to, like, solve the case or admit. Well, it's also like, because they had to do a payout for, um... To Biggie's mom. Biggie's mother, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who, um, you've watched Unsolved. What did you think of the actress playing Biggie's mother? Been a while since I've seen it now.

I thought she was a little bit hammy. Okay. Low, well, my son's dead. Yeah, yeah, okay. Come on. Give it over love, right? She was, it was very, like... Spilled milk.

I don't, you know, again, like, she was acting. There's a lot of, like, sing. single tear rolling on the eye and I was like oh you're showing off yeah okay

right I don't like it a little tangent for a minute I don't like in films where like

people crying like a nice pretty way yeah where it's like you know there's tears but they're very

you know dignified yeah yeah yeah if somebody's crying they should look pathetic I want to see

snot all over the place yeah just just like whee shit themselves

just quefeing yeah yeah That's realistic Yeah Oh no my baby dead You know Kind of like that

Yeah If you want to go down that road Which I won't Well done Be the bigger man Yeah So No I don't

So Poole went spastic And he Poole taught It was a way bigger web Of conspiracy Yes And you know He was in

He was saying like Oh this person In this person And he kind of He lost everything Apparently his family, like... Yeah, he got divorced,

he didn't see his kids towards the end, he lost his job. And ironically, he died in a police station. He had a heart attack. Why was he in that police station again?

Because, um... Wait, was it... I think he was in it for some reason, maybe like... I think they felt sorry for him, be honest. Okay.

I think maybe they were like, oh, we'll give him like a traffic job. No, tell you, it was a sheriff's job. Okay. They're going to give him like a... Probably like a, oh, he can't fuck up this, you know? Yeah, yeah.

And then in the office for the interview, he, like, died. Now, do you want to be crazy? Like, oh, they injected him with something, jacked him with AIDS. Is that a theory? That is a theory on Reddit, yeah. Actually, we kind of, another thing we could briefly skip over that everyone thinks that EZE was actually killed, injected with something. Yes, yes. Because, like, he contracted AIDS and died two weeks later, basically.

Where, okay, you've got street knowledge. Yeah. Where do you stand on EZE? because it's funny a lot of black people well I want to say a lot well a lot of people in the black community you know are like he wasn't gay

okay he wasn't gay no way he was gay or even boy he was definitely injected with the needle right what do you think as a member of the black community thank you as an adopted member yeah yeah that's right um yeah like I don't know the theory that he was like

stabbed with something but it was more so like it wasn't even that okay like hypothetically he was so if he was in the closet contracted AIDS that's one thing that's where I stand by the way okay but like don't they say like he literally

he kind of wasn't showing any signs and then like just over basically like got diagnosed after like a week or two of feeling shit and then was literally dead like a couple of weeks later like the time from being diagnosed to his actual death

was not really showing and many symptoms previous to that I mean that's not really how AIDS works though right it's like a really kind of slow degenerative disease that attacks your kind of immune system over years and like you know it's a long

drawn out thing different maybe if you're like a heroin actor but I don't think he wasn't on that he wasn't also not a single one of his baby mamas no single one of his kids not a single you know not his dentist none of them got AIDS no one else that he was fucking and

apparently he was a real fuck boy he fucked a lot oh yeah yeah he loved a pussy he was a real creamy boy yeah yeah and he was on Howard Stern once oh really yeah she's that's where he got it

no no but he was the Howard Stern once and he was like bragging like I don't use condoms and Howard Stern was like you gotta use condoms yeah he was like I don't listen to you

you big Jerry Heather but yeah so I think that's where the theory comes from but again who knows you can speculate then there's that really crazy clip of like Shug Night

on Jimmy Kimmel is like you know they got these needles now you can just go around to Jex somebody give them aid it's like that

easy E shit and everyone just kind of goes whoa it's funny because he says easy E style and Kimel's kind of

huh huh like he laughed is one laugh and he's like oh is he admitting to murder right now

so he's like ha ha oh where's Girmal yeah and Jeff Ross is there like oh you're black you know

this early days he was still workshop and some stuff I love that like bad Jeff Ross who's like we're criminal I have the statistics to prove it but anyway

yeah look this whole story is a big crazy thing there's a lot of legitimate theories but then there's also a lot of crazy theories real out there shit I'd say it's more likely he just I don't know fucking but then you know that's you've convinced

me okay you've been I think yeah his son is kind of like a little bit like yeah i think uh foul play it's just the fact that no one around him like as you said none of his baby mamas or girls he was fucking or kids none of them contracted aids and then the fact that he died so quickly from being diagnosed it is weird it's fishy but again i don't know enough about fucking medicine or like diseases or black no uh you know i don't know enough about any of this i haven't done the research speculate, so yeah, who knows, but look.

Yeah, you know, yeah, I do think what was, if if Shug Knight did inject EZE with AIDS, yeah. What you think his reasoning is, is he just trying to be badass on Kim? Is he, is he, deep down, does he really just care about?

Was this all to get Kimmel's love? Yeah, yeah, but the, another theory is that Shug didn't actually do it. He just kind of like to imply or brag, that he made was responsible. But, like, you know, NWA, you know, after fuck the police, like, it wasn't just Tipper Gore who was after him, like, you know, like the FBI, CIA were all investigating them.

They consider them to be, like, dissidents, essentially, who were putting out a real anti-social, anti-government, anti-American message, anti-authoritarian. So there's another theory, you know, kind of like, you know, similar to like, you know, Martin Luther King or whatever else, was he murdered for being, you know, so outspoken, all that stuff. Again, another theory. No way to corroborate it whatsoever.

Now, James, you've crossed the line there. Am I going, I'm going to Russell Pool on it? That's, yeah, you're going to die of police. This isn't my theory. This is just a theory. I literally prefaced by saying there's a lot of wacky theories. I like it now, you're like, it's not my theory. And then you slowly, like, hide your folder with like James's cool theory.

I just bring out a whiteboard with lots of red twilight. wine. Yeah, yeah. But look, hey, who knows, man. Who knows? You know. We'll never know. That's the thing. It's a kettle fish, isn't it? It sure is. A big old kettle of fish. I would recommend Unsolved.

Yeah, I know. I've watched it. Yeah, I enjoyed it. Because the thing about it is very comprehensive. It goes over everything. So if you are interested in this and you want to know about it, check that out. There's an episode of last podcast on the left where they talk about it as well. Like, there's a lot of good stuff out here. that details it in but you know what

they don't do the funny racist voices so is it even worth your time probably not I was laughing in unsolved there's a funny bit in it where Russell Poole's

like talking to Biggie Small's mother and it's like Mrs. Wallace I haven't solved the crime but I have written a book about it so I'll make a good bit of mood

off it so you're not too bad swings and roundabouts am I right I can buy all the red string I want yeah yeah by the way

your son's music suck balls on the West Coast for life but yeah I think we cover it a lot there is there anything that we've missed I mean not to stop obviously but there is the whole like

two pack fate is death thing yeah yeah well that's one I've never but there's even that they both fake their death well here's the thing with I would have believed it more until I found out that two packs in the hospital for nine days

yeah okay It seems like a lot of time be hanging around still doing like the ho-ho and looking around being like does anyone buy this?

I read a YouTube comment that said a guy's mother like the YouTube comment was like my mom worked in the hospital where Tupac got shot and she said he's dead

so yeah so that's all the proof I mean yeah look case close if only YouTubers around Russell Poole could have put this whole thing

to bed they do say that he faked his debt Tupac lives in Cuba but he came out of hiding for Occupy Wall Street have you seen there No what? Yeah yeah basically it's a black guy in Occupy Wall Street and you're like it's Tupac Look at him as Tupac

I told you before I'm not Tupac I'm here to promote Bruce Almighty But yeah So it's a wild ride man it's just a ride yeah i did look a little bit into the two-pack faked his death just seems like a lot of work yeah there's a lot of people what's the benefit then it's to escape the crazy life that wouldn't you miss that after like yeah you'd be so bored it's like being rich and famous getting to bang anyone you want pretty sweet like imagine

like the difference like you're basically living like a king all right yeah and what like you're like oh now I can like what you're seeing he was like 20 something how long has he been dead he died in 1996 so like 20 fucking six years so he's just been sitting on the island then for like 26 years being like yep fooled them all no 25 years okay yeah yeah well he's been for over two decades he's just been sitting on island being like oh ho I got the last laugh I did yeah it's like hey you come and clean that shit up saying no problem

problems, sir. He's just like works as a janitor now. Yeah, yeah. With a little fake moustache, working over his

actual moustache. So, um, we'll do a where are day now, just to finish it up. Okay. So Michelet is doing well.

She's still hanging out with the kids and, she's getting alimony from Dr. Dre and Shug Knight. Those are two good guys to get alimony from. Yeah,

well, Dr. Dr. Dre, isn't he like the richest black man who ever lived? He's a billionaire now from Beets. I think Beets

Beets made him a mill billionaire. The stat I read was when he sold beats to Apple, was it? I think so. It was the biggest single day accusation of wealth for a black man

in all, all of time basically. Well, maybe back before, there's probably some guy who got like 12 goats back in the back then that was like the biggest thing ever. But yeah, it was like massive amount of money. So he's like mega rich no matter yes. So he'll be fine

like, and here's the thing, like everybody knows about his history of domestic abuse doesn't matter like he's a billionaire you know it's like don't be a party pooper yeah yeah um also he's shredded now holy shit he's a beef gig very big he could give shug knight or on for his money well show knight uh got arrested for having a little drive he imagine this in this in a country a black man can't even go for a drive yeah on the on the set of straight out of compton on the set of straight out of compton where a guy portrays him as a thug and a possible murderer

he does hit and run where he murders two people he killed one person I think severely crippled the other

one so you get your facts right okay racist just railroading another black man

oh look good your white robe fell out of your pocket your burning cross fell out of your pocket

shug's in prison yeah andre's a billionaire uh easy he's dead we mentioned uh

Ice Cube's doing well Yeah, yeah, he's still like Here's the thing, I think out of all of those guys Like, well, no, okay, not, sorry, not including Biggie and Tupac But I personally would put Ice Cube above Two Pack, but out of the whole NWA One crew, he definitely produced the best shit

And I put, like, he is way better than Dr. Dre. His music is so much better. You know, Drey's a great producer and he knows talent or whatever. Quality and quantity, it's Ice Cube. Also, was Drey in the 21 Jump Street franchise? I don't think so. Was he kicking it with Jonah Hill and Shannon Tatum?

No. Was he in a film with Charlie Day? Fist Fight. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, Ice Cube. He's kind of, he's weird now. He's got a kind of research, like, he did kind of serious movies. And he was good.

I love Friday as well. That's not a serious movie. But now he's sort of into kind of like, he's kind of good at like poking fun at himself or he plays like the angry guy you know like everyone's afraid of him but he's just kind of leaning into it

and he has fun with him remember the fuck I was disgusted by this oh are we there yet no no remember that came out okay he's trying something and the whole community fucking backstabbed him or like oh you're not cool anymore

really fucking made me angry yeah yeah I signed up to several message boards that day how many members of like UKIP are there just because Ice Cube got disrespected

but yeah I thought that was I always thought that bullshit the way they're like yeah he used to be a gangster and now he's trying to make money doing the kids film

yeah like he was never a gangster he just sort of emulated the character but he was very he never really claimed to be about that life you know what I mean

he also wrote one of the greatest disc tracks of all time no Vaseline his fucking top here man. Let's do a little mind experiment to finish this off. We'll finish it off a minute. I'm going to steal some of your food.

Okay. I'm going to run down and steal all your food. Yeah, do it. That's going to be fun, all right? Because I've been inspired by the music. I take what I want. Yeah, but let's do a little mind experiment finishes off. What do you think two-pack Shakur

would be doing right now? Oh, I'm probably featuring on tracks with Justin Bieber. Really? You think he'd still be doing the music? I think he would have left the music You're probably right Well he was a pretty good actor as well I was about to say I think He will have been nominated for two

He wouldn't have won But he'd be nominated for two Oscars Yeah And I think he A bit like Ice Cube He will have branched out And try to do like some Sillier stuff

And he would have Not as successful But like He could have He could have been in the fast and furious Franchise Instead of ludicrous It could have been too

No, I think Tupac would be doing more, like... Artsy stuff? Not artsy, but he could be doing more kind of Oscary-beaty kind of move. He definitely would be team. Who's that guy, like, Les Daniels, was like the Butler and stuff like that? I don't know. You know, that director, he did the Butler, he did Selma. Okay.

He'd be doing those kind of films. Lee Daniels. Lee Daniels, yeah. Les Dennis. Les Dennis. And, like, like, you'll... I say, says... Like, he would have, like, done, like, um...

He would have appeared in a fucking, like, a few action movies, stuff like that. Yeah. Well, I really missed out. You know that film with Jim Belushi? Yeah. Oh, what was that called? That could have been the whole franchise. I never actually saw that one.

I saw a few of Tupac's movies. He's great, he's great, he's great. And he's a very good actor. Who are? Juice. Yeah. None of that, Brian. Don't do.

This has been a very high brow episode now. Don't taint it. Yeah, I think. I like the picture that he'd start off doing really good films he'd have a period a little bit of

kind of shit but he'd make a comeback and he'd probably being like good HBO shows now like do you know the night of yeah

he'd probably be like I could see him in True Detective Season 4 I could see him doing that where he tries to investigate his own murder yeah

from beyond the grave why do you think about Biggie I think Biggie would just be doing music now just music he'd probably be more like producing

I think he was even kind of he was already kind of hinting at you know I'm maybe only going to do one or two more albums than I'm going to get into producing, finding new talent all that stuff so yeah I think

you know stuff like that I think he'd be skinny now he'd be like Jonah Hill he'd be all skinny now yeah maybe yeah or at least not as fat you think he'd ever go into acting I heard a rumor

not I heard a rumor I heard that he kind of was a bit jealous the fact that Tupac was doing all this acting and he kind of wanted to do the same but he kind of like wasn't as confident in his own abilities yeah yeah well I mean who knows

like apparently he was a really good singer as well like as in you know like not rapping but he could really croon or whatever like he was like really good at like R&B singing maybe he could have done something like that I don't know that would be so good

yeah yeah what you think easy E be doing easy I know the least about what is dreams were i think i think he really lived day to day well see the whole thing was i mean as we saw in the film they were going to get back together n wa yeah and i think they probably you know would still like you know they probably would have done tours and stuff it could have been all different you know and it's a shame it's a shame a lot of talent gone yeah but hey hey we'll do but hey look we're still around yeah carry on the message bringing the truth bringing the truth this has been

this has been a long one this is a rare thing we're like I honestly I've got so much we could talk about more but like it's too much it is it's too much I think it's almost like we should have just done like

the two pack murder yeah and that's it you know we bit off more that we could chew yes it is but like I mean the unsolved series

is 10 parts on Netflix so it's like 10 hours basically and it just about covers everything and there's a girl in it we're real nice ass remember her she played the yellow

Hello Power Ranger. Okay. Yeah. Which one? Who is she in there? You know the detective? She's like a Latino girl. Oh yes.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. She's like, you know, shaking her ass around, you know. Confute. That's why you couldn't solve the crime. Put your booty away, girl. Anyway. But yeah, this has been a...

It's been fun now. Cheers for listening, everyone. I apologize for interrupting you earlier, but you got me all excited. I have not. I have not forgotten. I could tell. Yeah. Yeah, I could tell the tension is just in your shoulder.

right now. I'm going to hire Keith. Kee-D is still alive. Is it? Yeah. What about Kweefy D? Quiffy D?

There he is, folks. That's what we've been waiting for, eh? Finally. Yeah, yeah. All right. Pites are listed. Good luck, everyone. I'm going to make a sandwich.

Goodbye. Hey, why don't you eat a sandwich as well? I have. I'm talking to listeners. Oh, okay. Dumb cunt.