Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 136 : Dopesick and Sopranos Spoilers

Episode Date: November 20, 2021

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Go. And I'm all good here. We're back, everybody. We're Brian and James. We're doing... It's a nice episode now. Yeah. You're smoking?

Why are you smoking? Oh, that would be telling my friend. I shouldn't know. I'd nark you. You're a fucking copper, man. Only the old bill would ask me something like that. I'm trying to be cool. Like, oh, why are you smoking there?

Would it be illegal? Would it? You're like the nerd and days and confused. Oh, somebody's... smoking some briefer and then I walk up like

what the fuck's your problem well yeah but actually that ties into what we're going to talk in this episode

so we're going to talk about dopesick the new new Hulu series I watched about the opioid epidemic

is that still going on is it I thought they got rid of all that I thought they got rid of all the junkies

and the and the dopers and the pips and the bugers and not get rid of all of them yet no so we're going

to talk about that we're going to talk about sopranos oh good yeah if we haven't talked

about that before this is going to be a very spoiler heavy episode though so when we get Sopranos we'll let you know but we're going to talk about a particular episode in like season four where a character dies a really big character dies

so if you haven't seen season four turn off right now no don't kill yourself no don't kill yourself yeah wait till I want to talk about dopesick okay dope sick yeah I haven't even seen this so in a rare in a rare occasion

you've watched something I haven't. You're going to talk about it. You were watching before this start though I put on a trailer for something called Are men pedophiles?

Are all men Oh yeah That's very important distinction Yeah Are all men pedophiles Are men pedophiles? Yes Some of them are

I'm pretty sure No, no It's all women Yeah yeah Yath Queen It's 2021 Women can rape children I just stumbled out

I looked up Pedophiles on YouTube As a laugh Yeah Coming to my house And putting that shit On the algorithm Yeah I was like

Oh this would be a fun goof for okay and it looked like an independent movie about paedophilia and it wasn't quite... But somebody went very like into the weeds with it I mean there's a lot of people they were talking to it. I want to look into it but don't even want to Google it too much

or download it because you know what you'll get but it seemed like I'm not quite sure what the premise was and what side of the pedophile angle, you know what side of the pedophile fence were they on? Yeah yeah I mean if this is like a a pro-pedo movie like wow

respect. Really respect, yeah. To get that made in Hollywood. You know how hard is to be a paedophile in Hollywood. Yeah. But, so yeah, that'll be, don't worry. It kind of seemed like... Going back to the roots, all the BJ boys out there

who are like, why aren't they talking about pedos anymore? Don't worry. We're getting sold out. Yeah, we got something cooking for the live show. Well, I tell you what... We're going to merge paedophilia and prop comedy. And I'll say no more about it. I just got a bag full of life children

I've got hair like caratop carrot top yeah one of your five a day but it kind of reminded me of that documentary the trailer it kind of reminded remember we watched that thing the voice made about the guy who was saying that paedophilia should be looked at

more like a mental health issue like a drug addict you know you can't help yourself And it should be treated like that You should help the paedophile Not punish them Yeah, okay And what about a cheat day

A pito cheat day Did he incorporate that Because I don't really agree with that Now to be honest with you No he was saying that like He obviously I don't agree with him But he was like a bit of a weirdo Like you know

He was like a pedologist So he was saying that like Yeah he was like Dutch or something Was he was yeah The pitophiles are just normal people And they just have loves For the little boys and girls And there was a black guy

interviewed him and the black guy was like whoa this is what you're all like isn't it? Oh yeah but yeah so he was saying

this Dutch guy was basically saying like it should be a casual thing where it's like hey can you mind my kids for the weekend no I can't

I'm pedophile and you go my mistake silly me okay so it's sort of like when there's a vegetarian at the dinner party

exactly yeah it should be that casual you need to have a pito option on the menu And it should be, it should be you're rude for going, like, do you want to mind my kids? Because, like, you're the one tempted them. Oh.

That's like someone's like, I'm off heroin. You're like, oh, do you want some heroin? Okay. Like, you're the dick. Yeah, or kind of like inviting a, you know, recovering alcoholic to your stag do, you know? Exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah. So it should be that level. Now, where do you think, what do you think about that?

It's a very Dutch way of looking at things, isn't it? It's a very, yeah, it's, I don't know, to be honest. There are so many groups of people in the world. that could do with help I don't think pedos should be

the top of the list you know what I mean then the homeless social housing for petos

let's talk with dopesick now okay that was that we warmed up there I'm happy

now okay so dopsic it's a new Hulu series about the opiite about the

Shecklers okay the sack the well yeah the Shecklers yeah

the shecklers with their very yeah But the shekel people, the shekel people who made heroin to trick, to make January 6th happen. No, it's the Sackler family. The Sackler. And I'm sorry, I know I always correct you, but it's an important distinction.

It is, yeah, yeah. So the pill family, okay, the pill heads, the jagged little pills, the Alanis-Morissette fans. It'd be funny now, Alanis Morset gets accused of causing the opioid epidemic. I'm actually I'm not even joking I'm not doing the bit it's sackler

sackler sackler yeah sack yeah sackler like think of ball sack sack okay that was stuck with me forever okay okay

so the sackler family alright yes it's partly about them it's kind of like loads different stories going on okay so it's about the sackler family

yes and them inventing the pills right right right and then it's Michael Keaton plays a doctor in like a small town yeah he's like a good doctor okay

kind of doctor where like he clocks off at five then he goes around all the patients and helps them even more Oh, that's nice And even like he's like You know knocking on like an old lady's door And he's like, do you take your pills

And she's like Oh, what pills? What's happening? And he like, you know, gives it to her It's all because of Obamacare That's what caused my dementia Yeah It's like sure, sure

And he's like puts the pill down her mouth Do you know they're in the comet pizza basement? Yes, I do This old lady's pretty cool okay so yeah Michael Keaton's like a good doctor yeah and even like I think of Sundays he has like a pot roast dinner where everyone can come around to like the community centre

and while they're eating dinner he's like feeling their legs and stuff being like yeah yeah good bones there oh I think you need a muscle touch yeah the shift of lactic acids yeah yeah oh yes a lot of breast milk in there still yeah so he's a good doctor right

But then Will Polter comes along And he's like Hey I've got these new drugs Oxycontin Oxicon, yeah And it's great and it's for mild pain Yeah And Keaton's like

We just is a strong drug You can't give this from mild pain He's like it's non-addictive Yeah That's when they said like only 1% One% of people get addicted to it Which is fucking bananas Like this was like

This wasn't just some little thing Throwaway gag This was the whole selling point of oxy cotton They had it on the posters, like only 1% non-addictive. The food and drug regulation, okay? Yeah. They made a new label for this because there's never been a thing before. Of it, like, such a hard drug that was non-addictive.

Yeah, yeah. And I haven't got to it yet, but I'm going to assume there was some money, you know, got changed hands. Yes, I would imagine so, yeah. Yeah, well, I think the Sacklers weren't, didn't they all have, like, they're, like, very wealthy. But they all had, like, kind of backgrounds in psychology. and then they went into like, you know, pharmaceuticals and advertising

and it gets very murky, you know. Yeah, so they were big into that, like psychology of the patient and also really big into the marketing of it as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They spent more money on marketing it than, like, you know, like a blockbuster film. Like, they're proper, like, ads everywhere,

like, um, gabbo, gabbo, like that kind of... Yeah, but like, you know, you ever watch, like American TV, like, and it's just constant ads for, like, drugs like you know medication and shit yeah it's non-stop drug shit we don't have that because I suppose like the HSA we don't only need to sell like catators yeah yeah yeah but over there it's completely privatized yeah so it's a big incentive to make it you know so you'd be watching like Brooklyn 99 then they're selling like ads for like piss tubes and stuff like that

piss tubes yeah and then Terry Cruz pops up it's like I love these piss tubes this shit is great whoa yeah you mean I could piss anywhere I just strap this bag to bad dick they also do a lot of ads for like cosmetics like elective surgeries as well what do you mean all like plastic surgery yeah plastic surgery and shit like that yeah big titties big dicks

yeah yeah and viagra and stuff like that as well like which we're finally getting Ireland we're finally getting those ads yeah there's like a husband dancing around it's like he's dance yeah that's what every man does when he like he's finally getting erection he's fucking his wife so good it's like let's go dancing

dancing i tell you what ladies if your husband loves dancing there may be a non-medical reason why you can't get hard for you okay if your man if your fellow wants to take you dance in five nights a week yeah there could be other problems we're going dad you can't come just gonna help her marriage okay my deck it's got to be so hard after this the youth day here i'm going dancing yeah so um what's talking about okay so we also fall just like a dad okay in the town he works down the mine right and his daughter works down the mine with him when is is this like in the 90s yeah this is and they're like talking about like they're talking about man gonna close down yeah you know but they're still working there and his daughter's working

with them and the daughter's like a frail little thing okay tiny little thing i think she's been to be like 17 18 something like oh no is she because she hasn't had her period yeah okay I think she's like 16 and the other girls make fun of her girls yeah no it can happen later oh okay She goes to Michael Keaton about it And he's like, don't worry, honey It's a natural thing Yeah Oh, I better have a root around though

Just to be sure Let me hear me have a go in your mind shaft Yeah, he puts like the hat on With a little light You know It's got a little pickax Going into our pussy He's whistling as well

I hope I hope it's off to work we go There's a dead bird down there The canary in the cunt mine Yeah So the dad works in the down the mind with his daughter little daughter

there's a lesbian works there as well okay lesbians one of the fellas you know okay they're like uh you know to lesbian like hey eat much pussy last night and she's like yeah I ate almost as much dick as you sucked hmm that makes sense

no it doesn't okay yeah she's like yeah you're a fag okay okay cool it's witty banter yeah yeah yeah yeah but what was it now it's the 90s that's okay no it would have been like eat much pussy and it's like yeah I eat more pussy and you had dick.

Yeah. That was, yeah. So she's like one of the fellas, all right? Right, right. They all respect her, do they?

Yeah, they do. Back in the day, that's how you earned respect. Okay, you minority groups, all right? You listening? They're definitely not listening.

I know that much. You stroll in, let's say, you're gay. Yeah. You'd stroll in, you'd call one the guy's gay and they'd respect you.

Yes. Same if you're black. You'd stroll in. You'd call one the guy's black. Yeah. And it goes down with autistic, dick, you know, such and such, you know. Yeah, okay, so she's in the, she's down in the mines.

She's down the mind with the, the lesbian and the daughter down the mine. Right. And they're kind of flirtatious. Oh. Yeah. But the daughter's 16 and how old is the lesbian? Oh, yeah, I didn't think of it. Oh.

Maybe, maybe the lesbian's also 16. Yeah. Who knows? You're telling me that the minor is going after the minor? Oh, we've got a minor and a minor. Oh, yeah. I'm not too sure. Maybe she is 18.

Yeah. They make a point to saying she hasn't had her period yet. But maybe she's 18 and that's why she's going to the doctor. That's good be it. Why hasn't it happened? Yeah, that could be it. So they're two 18 year olds.

Okay, we're back on track. Okay. No, hanky-panky. And I've just lost interest, to be honest. They're both legal. Okay. And it turns out they're banging. Oh, they are banging.

Yeah, yeah. They start making out in a bathroom, okay? And the dad kind of knows because he doesn't want to address it. Yeah. When he's praying. to God, you just kind of mention, like, you know, she may be different, but God still loves her. Thank God for these magic pills that are going to make the dad's life just gravy. He's got no more worries now. Well, what's funny is, okay, so there's a mining accident. Yes. And the daughter fucks up her back, all right?

Okay. And she goes to Michael Keating, he's like, oh, yeah, it's pretty bad now. Maybe, you know, do some stretches, you know. just stay off your feet for a while but then she tells him she's a lesbian he's like oh my okay take these we got you need the strongest shit we got if anything you need to go out in the street and score some black tar heroin that's the only remedy

yeah so yeah and then it just kind of shows the town like very comedically like becomes addicted to these pills oh really yeah all of them where like one day it's all like you know happy families Sunshine lallipops in And then the next day it's Gangsters Paradise by Coelio

Like the next day There's literally a scene where there's a guy He's like a little league coach Yeah And he's walking out And the kids like bye coach Like bye And he sees there's a car

On his own in the car park And he walks up to And he's like a girl passed out Like Yeah He like knocks him in and he's like Five dollars suck you dick God I love this town

Yeah Yeah This town's changing. Thank you, Bill Clinton. Is this because of Joe Biden's crime, Bill? Oh, that guy's got to go on

to do a wonderful thing. So, and then we see, I mentioned Will Polter. Yes. Is in the film. We kind of see how they're, like, train to sell the pills. He's like, uh, what do you call them?

Like a rep, like a sales rep? So they're liberally hire good-looking people. Yeah. And they're given like reports on the doctor. Yeah. Ford, it gets a doctor on what he likes. Oh. So it's like, oh, he...

So it's very manipulative. Yeah, yeah. So they'd be like, oh, he loves, like, I don't know, like, he loves saving private Rine, okay, and the Pittsburgh Pirates. Right. So then, like, did work to end into the conversation, all right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you see that game last night? Oh, it's great.

Yeah. You know, I love to watch every year, saving private Ryan. Okay, that came out of nowhere. By the way, I'm a rep. Here's the thing, Will Poulter, look, don't get me wrong, sexy piece of ass, who wouldn't? But, like, wouldn't you just send some, like, you know,

big-titted bitch in there with a big breastus and tight vestises? But they do, yeah. They decide which doctor would fall for that, and which, so Michael Keaton... Michael Keaton gets Will Poulter. Yeah, they're like, Michael Keaton, he's a good soul. He helps old ladies.

Big tits won't work on him. Oh, okay. He's too wise for that. We've got to use young twink instead. You need a little corn-fed, little, Will Poulter in there, you know? Is he got a British accent or American? American accent, yes, yeah. He plays an American guy.

I like Will Poulter, by the way. He's very good. He's gone very swole recently. Yeah, I've seen that, yeah. And no, I don't like him. Yeah, he's playing a character. I like when he was a little dork and weir the Millers. Yeah, yeah. I could relate to him like, yes, yes. But now he's got all big and strong.

It's intimidating. Yeah. I'll be honest. He's playing a character called Adam Warlock. Adam Warlock. That is awesome. Yes. Dude. Finally.

yeah yeah okay so he's he's uh he's like charming he's sell and they're told stuff like you know you got bribed the secretary oh yeah you know uh to get in you know not with actual money you know just give her like a big bowl of chocolate you know okay yeah trick her so she's busy eating the chocolate and you can sneak in and talk to the doctors like uh you know the uh what you call it the horse the wooden horse the Troy what is it Trojan horse Trojan horse that's the one exactly yeah the wooden horse and um I fucking suck sorry if I

I just screamed in your ears I apologize and uh oh Rosario Rosario Dosserio Dawson Oh yes Yeah she's in it as well I thought she's gonna play a lesbian I kind of jumped a gun

Yeah you just text me Sort of indecipherable gibbers Like Lesbian Rosario Dawson pills Be upgardner Lesbian Yeah

Yeah she just plays a powerful woman in it So I taught she was lesbian But she's actually a straight lady Oh Yeah, she plays like the head of the FBI. Oh. Or some like drug enforcement unit. Oh, like the DEA?

Yeah, and they're investigating this like, oh, a lot of people are ruining their lives now and turning the crime because of this drug. That's a bit weird, isn't it? Yeah, yeah. So that's all, I've only got to that so far. And the problem was like evident even all the way back then, was it? Yeah, in like a matter of months. We're only kind of hearing about, like, when did we start hearing about the opioid crisis?

Maybe like 2015? Oh, for me as much later. You have your finger on the pulse and all this shit I live in, listen to me, I'm talking about Adam Warlock and shit, you know Well, as a mild opiate addict You know, I like to keep an eye on these things You know

Yeah, you kind of watch out for trends and stuff like that Yeah, yeah, yeah That's what happened me, Will Poulter came along It's like, here, here's some Salfidine Okay Anything for you, Mr. Poulter Is there gonna be another season of a school of comedy Or whatever, do you ever do you ever?

What was that? It was like this channel phone thing. No, it was like comedy labs, that's what it was called. But it was a sketch show with kids. That's where Will Poulter got a start. He was like a Channel 4 sketch show for kids. That's all coming back to me.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, my God. Oh, they raped me. Oh, no. Will Poulter raped me as a child. Even though I'm older than him. He was so strong. Actually, I was just very weak. So wait a minute, yeah, comedy labs

and it'd be a different thing every week. And one of them was called, like, a school of comedy or something, but they were kids. And it was like a sketch show. More the sketches like. But I think the sketches were kind of like not too adult, obviously, but a bit adult, you know what I mean? Yeah. But I remember even watching, I think, and this is shite. But your man, the main kid, the goofy-looking kid, he's pretty funny.

And he looked at up now. It was Will Poulter, like, yeah. And he's, like, he could literally be 12 in it. I'm not even joking. Oh, I need this up now. Very young. I definitely watched it. I remember the name and all that.

Yeah. Now, the sketches, were they written by kids or adults? I honestly, no idea. It could be pretty funny if they're written by adults and they're all like, well about you guys, you're in a swimming pool. This doctor from Holland comes along and says it's actually a medical problem. He says things and they're all correct and you listen. I've been talking about sopranos because I'm kind of like,

I've been trying to not watch the pranos. Yeah. Because it can become a... Really just a drain on your life, can't it? What do you mean? Just like... You know, I get home from work Like, I watch one episode

And then next thing I know it's like midnight Yeah, yeah I've done nothing. And it's been two days And your phone won't stop ringing But you're like... Pile am I! Oh no!

So I thought... Because we did the pile episode. Yeah. And who was asking him... One of the lads at work, Jack, is this a free one? Yeah. Jack and work

he just got promoted actually so now he's my ball span so he was like if you want to work here Cadden do the finale of Sopranos or get the fuck out so this is my livelihood

So Jack No I'm joking Jack's fan of podcast Shout out to Jack And he was like Oh do the finale And we'll be like I was like yeah I'll do it

Yeah Please don't fire me boss So he can fire you He could He could fire you and hire a hot Asian I don't think he could he can slap you around though well he does that anyway but only because

I requested he did that before he was like promoted me love your long time Jack please oh please Mr Jack been a sobby that's how he got the promotion like yeah yeah he appreciates our

our brand of humor well he's cool you get on with him oh yeah yeah like Jack a lot that's cool yeah my manager he's sound but I don't know why I find it hard to talk to my managers sure in the back of my head

him like he's the alpha yeah he's the silver back after yeah after a while there's no real like people don't really pull rank on you in sedanta like you know you do felt you obviously you feel like that at the start but then once you work there for a while you know you go up to them and it's like i'll kill your kids and they were like ha ha ha good one it's like ah god i love it i love it yeah with a manager you never really know where you stand because it's like you have fun but he can also like ruin my life yeah well we just have a shift leader so they just basically like tell you which channel you're going to be on or whatever

but it's never like a do what you're fucking told you dog you know but they only say that to the women you are a fucking soldier yeah and you will obey my orders yeah that's right yeah without my

premier sports I am worthless without premier sports I am also worthless either way I'm worthless so yeah he wanted us to do the finale And a few other people I know. I begged you, but you're like, no, no.

No, we zig when they zag. So like... Zig when they zag and don't trust the Zog. That's the Tuller philosophy. So I tried to do the finale, but does not... It didn't inspire me. Okay. Now, I love the finale.

Yeah. But it would be too hard to do, because it's not that much happens in it. It's a lot of talking. A lot of references to... Well, really, we would just have to go into Did he die, didn't? yeah yeah so we can do that at the end okay but I thought it'd be funny if just pick a random episode

we talk about that instead in the middle of the show and I thought this would be a good episode so it's season four yes it's the episode whoever did this whoever did this mid-season as well even though feels like a finale it does because it's like a holy shit yeah and there's multiple shit that happens in this

I was like holy this happens in one episode yeah like there's some episodes were like yeah when you rewatch you're like wait, all of this happens in this one episode? Feels like a big movie or something. It's funny because a lot of people I know when they first start sopranos, they're like, oh, it's just people talking. Yeah.

Oh, it's just a fat guy and he's sad. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of the subtlety of it gets lost on people. Yeah, and then they kind of get intoxicated by it. Yeah, yeah. You know, it does. I think even as a kid, I was kind of like that when it first started, I was like, it's about the mafia

autumn. And I was like, oh, there's not a lot of mafia parts it's like him talking where's the explosions yeah I didn't appreciate it but I still enjoyed it though as a kid I was like when I say kid I mean like 14 or 15 I'm picturing proper like a child

yeah well no because when did it come to RT2 they didn't have it from season one I have no idea I remember I watched the DVDs I started watching I think it was season 4 was the first season I watched on like ever okay because again it was only on TV

terrestrial channels then later on I bought I actually had the box set DVDs I was pretty smart well I did as I got the DVDs from college my first year at college when everyone else was partying and having sex like a bunch of sinners

okay I'd go into my room I'd lock the door going to my room woke up this morning which you know the history that song no it's written by a British band The Alabama 3 yeah okay but they're British Okay and it's based

Like Mumford's son Yeah, or... And I found out they were British, oh my God. I burned my Amish outfit. Whatever the fuck they were. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's written, it's about a true story of a woman who shot her alcoholic husband.

Okay, nice. So that's a little bit of... Oh, okay. That's cool. Woke up this morning, got myself gone. So it's perspective of a woman, so that turns everything around, isn't it? What the fuck?

Yeah. What? Turns out the Sopranas was queer the whole time. Ew! You fucking foot, no, go over here. So let's just jump into the episode. Do it, hit me. Okay, so we start off with the song, as I mentioned, okay?

Yeah, yeah. Great intro as well. It's a great intro. You know what I started doing to get older. I used to skip the intro. You fucking sad. I know, I was like... You worthless, cunt.

I was like, oh, he's driving, you gives a fuck. Now you sit back and I'm like, God, it's great. He's driving. I give a fuck. I just, you know, like, you know, the intro on YouTube for 10 hours straight. I leave a comment. Is there any 20-hour version? I'm watching it, I'm like

pretending to drive. Beep, beep. I'm smoking a cigar, but it's making me sick. I'm learning to drive. So we start off with Uncle Junior's trial. Right. So Uncle Junior, he's on trial. And this is when we started to get to kind of Alzheimer's-y aspect.

Yes. Which I don't think we even got hinted at before. Not really. No, I don't think so. and like he's on trial but like you know he's an old dog you know he's been on trial before

he doesn't even care like yeah he's just like whatever he wants to get home to get the early bird special okay he's like he's walking down the steps a bit of a comedic scene yeah it's actually quite funny

it was it a it's like a boom yeah he gets knocked by a boom mic yeah boom mic knocks him and he falls down the stairs yeah and the kind of joke is that the journalist is basically responsible for this instant and it turns around

and it's like breaking news here junior soprano was falling down the stairs Like an old asshole What a fucking retard No, eight steps And look he's twitching Oh, I kicked him

Oh, he just shit himself Oh Breaking news Junior Sopranos being kicked by me Oh, breaking news Junior Sopranos penis Is only two inches flaccid What a fucking dork

So Juniors hits his head off the steps Yeah, yeah yeah And that kind of gets a brain scan Then And they're kind of like There's kind of signs here Of dementia

Yeah like Was it like on his brain scan there's little spots little old retard spots on the brain that's what the doctor says exactly yeah I think he's an Asian doctor as well oh missasapano you have a retard spotting on brain if you are my child

I put you in bin yeah so they see this and like Tony's like oh this is a great scam here yeah yeah we'll convince the courts that you're not fit to stand trial and an interesting thing in this is the lawyer

Junior's lawyer He went to Ireland He goes to Ireland talking about abortion issues That's right His daughter is in the doll Talking about The Irish Parliament to say

Yeah Talking about abortion Now where do you think I'm going to guess What do you think Anti-abortion Pro-abortion I'll probably

Pro-abortion Because Ireland Up until very recently Was obviously The legislation was Anti-abortion It was illegal over here I suppose he wouldn't have to go over

And like be like Yeah Hey, it's keep up what you're doing. So this would have been like 2003, so this fucking Yankee broad, some dumb Yankee hole comes over here. Oh, you should be allowed

and will burn your babes because if you don't fuck a bunch of guys, it's like you get pregnant. Doesn't respect our culture. Yeah, yeah. Comes over. Who the fuck is this Yankee whore? Come on over hill.

But yeah. And they actually called the lawyer later on. And he's like, we're going to St. Stephen's Green for dinner. See, I haven't, I, this is how pathetic I am. I just know it all off the dome. It's a shame, don't show Ireland at all, though. It's just him in the hotel room.

In a hotel room. Or I love to see him bopping around the place. Yeah, like dancing a jig with Michael Flackley. Exactly, yeah, maybe he brings Junior with him. Yeah. Lord of the dance. Yeah. So they convince Junior to pretend of Alzheimer's.

Yeah, can I trick the court. He's all forgetful. And this has been done before. Oh, really? To be a few instances of this happening, yeah. There's one banker who did it. Oh. And he got away, and then he said, like, after...

So he got off, all right? Yeah, yeah. And then he was like, oh, yeah, I'm cured now. I got better. I got better. Yeah. Yeah, nice. I can...

And then he was, like, overdoing it. It was like, yeah, I can do crosswords and seconds, Rubik's cubes. I do Sudoku for fun of written tree screenplays. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, um, Tony is showing Carmel a pie of mine. And he's like... Don't try that again? Tony is showing Carmela pie of mine.

Pio Mai, not mine. Well, Pio Mai. Yeah. Pio Mai sounds dumb as well. Don't be like, Pio Mine's ridiculous. Yeah, no, but it's, Pio Mai is a dumb name, but Pio Mine, it's not anything. Well, I've written it down here as mine, so I'll have to stick to it. Okay, so Pio Minecraft.

Yeah. And like, he's human around the horse. He loves the horse. He loves the horse. And we've seen his four, Tony loves animals. He loves animals. And then we kind of find out a little later on. It's like, that's an actual, uh,

It's a very common trait in psychopaths that they are more empathetic and affectionate to animals than to humans. Because humans are disgusting, vile, pig creatures. Where is a little bunny rabbit so cute, she won't see? Bunny don't talk back, you know? That's right, yeah. I mean, that is the whole thing. Like, an animal just, like, doesn't annoy you, you know? Yeah, you can project yourself on, you can be like, oh, I bet the horse agrees with me about Israel, yeah. I tell you, dog is man's best friend. A dog would never accuse you of gaslight. it's like, oh, when you

pretended to throw the ball, but you didn't actually throw it, that caused me emotional trauma. The last thing needs the dogs to rise up and start yapper amongst themselves. And the dogs go on Twitter and like, oh, Brian was a bad owner. Dog Twitter.

When he buys the cheap dog food, red flag. Yeah. Super Value brand dog food. That's a deal breaker, ladies. Did you know this as well? You know the horse lady?

Yeah. Who looks after Pile Amai. Yeah. TIG Natarro. Is it? No, it's not, but it looks exactly like her. Oh, okay. You got excited her for me.

Like, whoa, my favorite, TIG. TIG Natarro, but when she had her tits. Oh, my God. That's, yeah. Tick Natarro. Yeah, you're right, though. She does, well, she's just a woman with short hair. I think every woman was short hair.

TIG Natarro. You're right. She doesn't look anything like her at all. Yeah, yeah. I was like, what, no, I haven't seen, you know what, I haven't seen TIG in a while. Yeah. Next time I see her, we're going to get a good look at her face. What was that movie she was in?

Army of Dogs or something. What was that? Oh, yeah, she was, yeah. Army of the Dead or something like that. Yeah, that's right. Oh, yeah. She placed Christa Leah. That was awful.

And she was exceptionally bad in what was already an awful piece of shit. Well, she was literally screened, like, she was not with the rest of the cast. Yeah, well, it shows. The screenshot her in afterwards, like. They were like, hey, just... Too bad they couldn't green screen in some fucking talent. Yeah. Roasted.

You hold on you. Oh, God. I'm going to ruin my relationship with Tig. I'm going to bang her. Yeah. And I'll be back to Sopranos. Yeah, yeah. So Paiomai, the horsey.

Yeah, yeah. Horsey feeling good. Yeah. He was sick before. Is Poyomai a lady or a man? I think it's a she. Yeah, yeah. That explains why Tony likes it.

Tony wasn't like a man. horse. Yeah, that'd be gay. Yeah. I ain't a horse fanook over here. Yeah.

Vito's like It's a nice horse. Hey, don't, can I take your horse for a ride? He brings the

horse to the club. Don't say nothing, Sal. It's a joke, Sal. I was a picture that Finn goes

to the construction site. Vito's head pops up. He's got a jockey. I looked up that Finn guy

Because I was like He's definitely like a son of someone Okay Because he's not good He's well it's just like How does he get this And what happened to him you know Yeah

I looked him up I think he's like the son of a painter And like an architect Right okay And I think they just like Managed to get him a job Like he didn't do anything Just like go on

Do that Yeah Go on Finn do it He's kind of like a goofy Unlikable douche Though Yeah Yeah

That's the whole thing you know what it's kind of like he's good in that role because he's useless that is who he is but he couldn't really do Hamlet could he you know yeah and he's done nothing since yeah but the good thing is like now the sopranos is big again a lot of these guys

and just go to like soprano's cons and stuff yeah sure fucking Vito has come to the dock yeah I got my ticket I'm going as well are you yeah yeah oh nice man we didn't mention this the podcast we are going to see Vito yes we are going to get him we might not get him on the

podcast but I'm going to bring a tape recorder and I'm going to get him to say something. Yeah. Like, oh, you fag. Go on, say it. Say fag, Vito. Have you got aged, Vito? I hope he's got even bigger now.

Yeah, I think he has kind of put all the weight back on. Let's figure this out for a second. Why is Veele in Dundalk? I think he's sort of, like, Shane, my roommate, who's a big fan of his podcast, but also a huge sopranos fan, so he's like, he's always, like, reading up on it. apparently the guy who plays Vito, Joseph, whatever the fuck, is a real like, just piece of

shit, sleazy, wheeler, dealer, you know, illegally selling signed DVDs out the boot of his car. Oh, he's like, oh yeah, I got these signed by Gandalfini. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's a real, like, hookster or whatever. And they're like, Gandalfini's spelled wrong on this. Ah, shut up. John Gandalfini.

Who's that? But anyway, yeah, so I think he's just a real hookster, anything to make a buck, so... Because it's not like he's doing this in a big, uh, space. He's doing this to like a pub. Yeah, it's like, where is it like in the fucking it's like the Crown Plaza or somewhere like that?

It's like a pub where to do the karaoke. Really? Yeah. That's tragic. I don't know if it's a stage or not. It's going to be an absolute train right. There might not be a stage. Yeah. It might be in the bathroom. Yeah, so he's coming over to the dog to give hand jobs in the bathroom. Yeah, it's going to be

insane. It's hosted by, who's hosting it? Joe Rooney? Joe Rooney, yeah, yeah. I'd love to know. I'm going to I'm gonna sit Joe down and force this out of him like how much you get in page how much is Vito getting paid how I can get into this action

Yeah Yeah Are they gonna like act out of Seed where he plays Father Demo and then He plays Vito It's like a crossover You know

Yeah does Vio of any knowledge If he goes like Oasis or Blur Yeah Yeah What the fuck What the fuck you're talking about Although I hear Vito's a big fan

of Dundalk FC but I bet he just like you know Google Dundalk and that came up It's like oh yeah Dundalk FC What is that the Fag Club Dumb Doc Fag Club Yeah he's like you know

He knows he goes he going to Dundalk's like I love that football team you have And you're like oh my god Amon the town What the fuck good These people fucking retarded or something You don't bunk From the wire

Yeah He's a big fan of Shamrock Rovers I think Oh cool nice yeah he doesn't fly over anything no no you just people like

somebody just went up do you like shamrock rober he's like yeah sure he's a fan for life if you go on shamrock rober's their Wikipedia page

they mention that like you go bunk is a fan so go fuck yourself see older jersey he's just a picture a bunk from the wire

and then it says she even though that wasn't even his character same past you go fucked themselves We got bunk Who do you

Got Snoop Makes me Sad as a motherfucker to see How far We don't fail Actually you see We'll get back to Brown

Yeah You see they're doing A Snoop show Oh really Yeah Which are one who played Snoop Yeah Not Snoop dog

No yeah Snoop from the wire Yeah It's kind of like Everybody hates Chris Kind of thing Everybody hates Snoop Yeah

It's gonna be About her as a kid Growing up In the streets and becoming an actress. Oh, oh, so it's about the actress,

not the character of Snoop. No, it's not a spin-off. Okay, right. I just don't know a real name. Right, right. Okay, that's interesting. Yeah.

She was good. She was very good. She was a funny voice. Very real. You believe she could kill you, you know? And a funny voice. And a funny voice.

Androgynous, I think, would be... Very introges, yeah. Yeah. I think you might have told it, I was like, as an actress... Actress. Is she?

What is she? Just checked the prone. now we'll go be careful but yeah so back soprano ex sopranos yeah so

we meet Ralphie Jesus we're over an hour oh are we now we'll just keep on we'll power shooters we'll go along yeah we meet Ralph Ralph Ciforetto

Ralph Ciffretto Ralph's still angry because the whole Johnny Sachs instant involved in that he made a joke about Johnny Sachs's voluptuous wife

oh yeah Ginny she had a 45 pound mole removed from her age she is so fat and it is very fat I didn't realize

it's a Christine Missalompi, Missa Lumpi. It's kind of nice to see him try, isn't it, folks? It's endearing. Kristen Malotti. Malotti, yeah. She's in the show as his daughter. She is fucking skinny.

Anorexic, yeah. Is she actually anorexic? Because she doesn't... I think, yeah. Yeah, she has to be. She looks, she legit, because the character is anorexic, and she is insanely skinny. Yeah. Like, you know the way to get so skinny, you can, like, proper...

You know, like a cartoon of a skeleton? Yeah, yeah, yeah. It looks like that. Like, you can, you don't see arms, you see two skeletons. It looks like, yes. It looks like her Halloween costume is, I'm going as a white trokra box. Yeah. You know?

Yeah, but she's very skinny. So Ralph is angry, okay, about this. And he decides that it's probably Paulie ran him out about the joke. Right. Which, which, Polly did. He did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he takes the, the adult, the adult route.

It's so funny. So he's to call Paulie's mother. Who's like in a nurse. and home. Yeah, he's like old and frail. Yeah, it's like, ma'am, we just said, this is an officer,

uh, Beaver Falls. From Beaver Falls. Oh, no, it's Mike Hunt from Beaver Falls. It's an officer, Mike Hunt from Beaver halls. We found your son, uh, in a bathroom sucking a Cub Scout's dick.

Oh, my Lord, not my poor Lee. He's like, it gets worse. Yeah, yeah. What else is, there's a gerbil up his ass as well. Oh, yeah. It's so funny. And she's like, ah, and he hangs up and laughs, okay. What's Joe Patan?

Pantiliano. Pantiliano, whatever. Pantiliano, I think. He's fucking hilarious. He's so funny, but then he's also, can be a real sinister piece of shit and evil, but he's also just so funny. I think he got the Emmy for this episode.

He's fantastic. And he, the full range of Ralph. So there's a funny Ralph there, okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then the next thing is his son is playing with another kid. They're playing with a bow and arrow. They're playing Lord of the Rings. Yeah.

They're like, oh, watch out, Gandalf. And they're playing, what he expects is going to happen, you dumb kid. kids. Yeah. They're playing with arrows and Ralph's son

gets shot in the heart. With an arrow. Maybe the chest but he gets shot anyway. Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

He loses oxygen to the brain, okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we see Ralph just devastated. He's just like

completely inconsolable with grief crying and like just shouting. He's just, yeah, it's an incredible performance.

Yeah, like the scene of him in the hospital then. Yeah, we're like Tony to like wrestle him's and Ralph, stop it.

And the other kids like, we were just bestin around, mister. Hey, your son's a dork Yeah

And he You know Fucking dumb ex-wife Shows up Yeah I knew you do this Giving it all that Yeah

Yep yep Yeah You've got Come on Yeah I One son All right

Allow me this Yeah Look You want an omit You gotta break Yeah Yeah He likes arrows

And didn't he See Like the ex-wife Bought him The fucking arrow Anyway Yeah Yeah

Anyway So He's We've never seen this Ralph before he actually starts turning to God He wants to repent

Yeah he because he's so The whole time He's like a piece of shit Like you know I mean major piece of shit Like this entire show Is about scumbags Who are murderers and drug dealers

And they're all pieces of shit And he is the shittiest of them all Like the Tracy scene Yeah Yeah That my fault She's a clot Yeah

After he just beat her to death She grew up cock sucking whore Like her mother Yeah Yeah Like that scene it's like, it's so brutal and awful.

And we've, you know, Tracy's, we've seen her, she's nice, she's a really nice, doesn't mean any harm. What's she trying to make, like,

try to make food for Tony once a stage. Yeah, make some, like banana bread. Yeah, I can't be doing it. And then there's a scene later on where,

like, Ralph's fucking her in the ass while she's sucking off a cop. It's like, you're crying, honey, I'll give you something to cry about. And the cop's like, watch the braces, honey. It's, uh, yeah.

You know, Tracy returned. What? Yeah, the dream sequence. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. They shot a whole dream sequence where Meadow turned into Tracy.

Oh. I think it talks a little bit on the nose. Yeah, and they, okay, they got rid of it. They got rid of it. But anyway, so Ralph is repentant. Yeah. It's like, I've done bad shit and now God's punishing my song.

He's going to talk to the priest and everything. Yeah. And it kind of gets around as well. You know, Carmela is, you know, she loves religion, okay? She's kind of like, oh, Ralph, you know, talk to the priest wants. So it kind of makes up.

for all those people he killed yeah yeah and it's an interesting I want to get your take on this now so they always mention Ralph's a great earner yeah great great earner

and even through all this tragedy still making the money still earning yeah he's still coming to Tony with the big fat you know big fat wad okay yeah yeah yeah he comes to Tony

gives the money starts talking about his son obviously starts crying yeah stops crying and Tony decides to pick that moment to tell him oh I'm fucking you're

ex-girlfriend. Yeah, I'm fucking your ex-gumar. That is a weird choice. Why do you think Tony did that? I have a theory, but I want to hear what you think. I mean, obviously, because he says, like, you know, I just don't want you to hear it from anyone else, but is it like I just enjoy kicking him when he's down kind of thing? I think it's disgust from the crying.

Oh, okay. Yeah. Because Tony's always like, oh, poor you, even though he's like a... You'll go around and pity for yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, he's a little emotional bitch as well. But he hates any of that stuff. Yeah.

He hates anyone else crying or complaining. Like even earlier in this season, there's an episode where like Furio is crying and Tony's like, what's wrong with you? He's like, oh, I'm sad. My father died. That's not the reason for whatever.

He's like, well, you got to fucking, we're at work now, so don't be fucking doing that shit. Get over it. And then it cuts to him in the therapist's crying because of his mother or some shit. No, it's actually the horse.

Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. I forgot about how. halfway through it's like oh yeah it's kind of a spoiler but we already

told him when star it's going to be a spoiler episode yeah yeah yeah yeah

the horse anyway so um Ralph seems take it well though seems to

take it well yeah so he's like oh you're fucking my ex guma oh

yeah okay well you know I wish I had a oh yeah you know you've got

great life Tony I wish had a great wife like you Carmello seems a

great woman yeah and he's done leaves okay yeah and then

Tony gets to call being fire Oh, you know what? I never actually put that together. Really? Like, yeah, that, you know, he fucked the Guma. Tony fucked his Goumar and then the fire.

Like, so you think Ralph... Ralph did it as a... Well, no, I don't think it does, but I think... It's... Yeah, no, that's what I mean, because, like, Ralph... Like, Ralph says... Basically, we find out that Ralph lit the fire that killed the horse because... We don't know that.

Not yet, but... They never fully say that on the show. Ah, no, they kind of do, though. They don't. I watched this recently, yeah. but it's pretty much implied. I think they're playing with the audience, though. All right, okay.

Fine, go on. Keep going. I disagree, but... Okay, we'll get to that in a minute. So he gets news, there's a fire, the horse is dead. Yeah. Pile might. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it's like proper bird to a crisp, you know? Yeah, yeah. And it's indignant. It's like getting dragged by a tractor, you know? Yeah, yeah. And Tony is devastated. He's like heartbroken. So he goes to Ralph straight away.

Yeah. Now, they mentioned it was an electrical fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it could have just be natural. right it's just a light bulb blue dropped on the hay yeah but then like then tony is like oh was it you're friends with what's his name he's the one who did the fire in vesuvial yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but they would all be friends with the arsonic yeah yeah no but like be like no like i'm pretty sure it's it's it's pretty much implied that ralph did it

like not in a vague like maybe he did or didn't it's like well well i interpreted it is Tony goes over angry anyway So in his head he's already decided Ralph did this Yeah And he's almost like poking the bear He's poking Ralph being like

Oh Just getting them to You know an arsonous Don't you Hmm You didn't like the horse Did you? Yeah

Yeah And Ralph is like Making some good points He's like The horse is fucking sick All the time Yeah Yeah

Yeah It was fucking cost Costs million No I 100% Like It just makes sense financially That that's what he would do

Like You eat fucking meat All the time Yeah It's like What are you a vegetarian and you eat meat by the cartload or something like that

and then they fight and Tony eventually kills him strangles him yeah it's a great fucking fight scene though and I've heard like Joe Pantiliano talk about it is like you know we really fucking went for it

like we really did hurt each other when we were filming it like and that comes across it feels very visceral and real you know Gandalfini was big into that he was like if I get injured during this this is great yeah

if we don't get injured let's do it again and let's be honest like you know if the two of them are going at it, obviously Joe Pantiliano is more at risk because Gannelfini is so big and strong. You know what I mean?

I don't know if it was that scene or the scene where he's fighting Bobby in like whole movies. Yeah. Yeah. Where like he proper fucked himself up for like and they have to take a day off like. Oh really?

Yeah, yeah. And he was like, this is great. Nice. This is the only time I've been happy on the show. But I think the rest time he was very depressed. Oh really? Yeah, yeah. Both of them actually.

pantilione's got like big mental health issues I've heard that about I didn't know that's I heard the thing about Gandalfini's wife said that playing the role really took its toll on him like and uh but obviously he just like he's so good at like conveying pure anger

he's obviously a very you know I think as well he wasn't living obviously he wasn't living the full mafia lifestyle but I mean he was partying he was eating oh yeah he was doing a lot of food he was doing drugs he was yeah probably getting his hole all the time yeah he was

So, like, he'd go to weddings of gangsters and stuff. They would invite him around, yeah, yeah, they would love them, yeah. It's, um, from we watching the show, the weight gate, it's a big wake game. Yes, he does. From season one to season six, he does put on a lot of weight, yeah. And then he got even heavier or after the show, like, you know. You're watched that film, Enough Said? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I mean, he's very heavy. He's very good, but he's very heavy, like. And he gets to fuck Elaine from Seinfeld. Yeah. Pretty sweet. even it's still inspiration there like a big monster man

they can still get the job done like yeah yeah well just put her on top don't look at me you whore but anyway okay so we have a slight disagreement there I personally think it's I can rewatch that scene

okay I'll rewatch it but like even he goes you fucking did it didn't you yeah he's like I didn't but fucking Tony come on okay okay so do you think he didn't do it then

I don't have an opinion. I just think the writers are deliberately leaving it big enough. So you don't know if you were root for Tony or not. Right. Okay. It's interesting. A lot of these, a lot of the cast in Sopranos kind of didn't like the fact that they would do villainous shit. What do you mean?

Like Steve Van Sant and the guy who played Paul, he would always be like, to David Chase, be like, oh, if I do this, people think I'm an asshole. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the fucking point.

Like, you know when Pauley kills the old lady? Yeah, it's so funny. Yeah, he was like, I can't kill an old lady. Like, I'd be like a bad guy. I go to church every Sunday. What's the matter what you was like? Yeah, haven't you been to jail like 20 times? And Steve Van Sant, he was almost like refusing to do the Adriana scene.

Really? Yeah. And he didn't want to call her a cunt either. But you know what? There's an even worse scene with him and it actually involves Tracy. Remember that scene? Yeah, that's hilarious Yeah, yeah

Because Ralph's watching Yeah, Ralph's watching laughing, he's like Slaps her, grabs her hair He's like, that shaved twat belongs to me You stupid cunt Yeah

Like that's a way more like Isn't that fucking amazing? It's awesome, yeah, I love it, luck, I love it I got done a t-shirt like My Tinder profile pig Yeah But anyway, okay

So he kills He kills And this is a big moment A major character has been killed And we're half into an episode Yeah And it's also got huge implications He's a made guy

He's a maid guy And Tony had absolutely No just cause to kill him He thinks And as you've pointed out Hasn't even conclusively proved That Ralph killed a horse

Yeah that's more important Even if Ralph had admitted it Yeah And Tony killed him There's no proof And the fucking the proof No one would care Yeah it's a horse

How did he try to explain That to your family's like But my horsey Pio my was burned They're like, did you ride the horse? Well, no, because physically I would destroy the horse. But still, he was my little friend.

He didn't even own him, really. It was actually Ralph's horse. He just showed up, like, to rub him, feed her sugar cubes. So he really had no justification. He's fucked up bad here, okay? But he's like, okay, God deal with this. He calls Christopher. Who just after shooting up doing heroin?

Worst timing. Just taking that lovely heroin. I mean, I have to say probably some of the best heroin actor never committed to screen. God, Chris Maltesanti just makes me want to do heroin. He just makes it look awesome.

He doesn't overdo it. Yeah. He's just, but you just believe that's heroin, like the scene it was earlier on in the season but where they're having a conversation he just like shut up and he's like got to have a conversation and he's

doing such good like I'm on heroin but I can't let Tony know I'm on heroin. Like he just plays that like Michael Imperione's performance is fucking incredible like everyone talks a lot about Gandalfini and Edie Falco

and rightfully so but Imperione is just so good amazing like even like the small like you know you could do it's so you have to be so precise with it because otherwise becomes funny or like too silly

or like over like or like too subtle but even just the way like Tony's like using it's like I didn't. I did. I did. Yeah.

Oh my God, you fucking drug addict. Can you even fucking do this? Yeah, yeah. So he basically like, Tony's like, Chris is the only one I can trust with this. Yeah, because he's blood.

Because he's blood, but he's a fucking junkie and he comes over, whacked out on heroin. And Tony's like, what the fuck? Yeah, he knows he can't like, uh, Sil would give too many opinions like.

Yeah. Plus, sill, all of those guys, they kind of would acknowledge like, okay, this is really bad. no justification.

There is actual grounds to have him clipped from the other families. So they've got to hedge their bets. Like, it's actually not too smart. I'm fucking myself here as well being involved in this. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

If you know you gotta tell or else. Chris is like, he's the only one you can trust. And Tony won't even, like, admit that he did it. To Chris. I found him like this. When it's, like, he's covered in blood and bruises. There's obviously been a fight.

Like, he's so. obviously did it but Tony's like I don't know who did this and Chris even knows but he's playing along it's like well I know Paulie was at the Bing all day so I couldn't have been him yeah because like Paulie's angry about the mother call

yeah yeah so Chris is going along with it so yeah and there's a lot of that throughout the show is like everybody knows that it's bullshit but they're going along with it yeah yeah someone else made a good point that there's a lot of shit in sopranos where characters just never find out the truth

they're just like dumb and there's no like resolution there's no like kind of big reveal it's like oh my god Tony killed Ralph it's just like dumped the body and just like we all move on yeah because that's how it is

like you know especially in that life is like people just go missing one day and they never show up as like they know but they don't know because a lesser show would have had like let's say Johnny Sachs like you know he finds like a secret note written by Ralph

and he's like, wait a minute. And he puts two and two together. It's like, okay, now it's war. And then it's season finale. Ball with the ball, the bag, the bag, diggy, diggy. But they never did that shit. No, no, yeah. So the next, the next, the rest of the episode is like this weird, like, almost silent, like, horrific, kind of, like, eerie kind of, like, shit.

Like, they're just, like, cutting open the body. Yeah. And they're getting rid of it, and it's like, they're just doing a job. Yeah. And they're just watching TV. It's like, but it's. They're treated like they're painting a house. It's just like a sort of, oh, we have to do this now.

There's that one scene, though, where Chris goes to chop off his head, but then pulls his wig off. It's like, oh, my God, I had no idea. And Tony's like, yeah, you're so high on Skag. He could have had your mother's muff on his head, you wouldn't know. It's such a funny zimony thing. It's so funny. Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's always shocking when that comes off.

Even though I've watched the show, I'm always like, oh, yeah, it's a wig. Yeah, it's a great wig. pretty gullible as well like yeah they're not really gangsters well I didn't know still was wearing a wig yeah but they never actually even said that in the show we only really kind of wait remind me now Steve Van Sant

was wearing a wig yeah he was wearing a wig okay right yeah and I guess I guess it's a pretty obvious hairpiece when you know it is but like it never jumped out it you know I'm always pretty bad with if a wig is done well I could never tell it's very rare I even notice a wig

yeah I wouldn't even like I guess if some people are like hmm is that right I guess it passes the test but I wouldn't even think about it like I would give a shit like I wouldn't examine some man's hair like is that real let me see the follicles

give me no touchy touch so they cut Ralph to bits yeah they showed a head for a split second which I don't like yeah it's just it's more horrific we don't see that much violence okay yeah if you just saw the arm

that's one thing but the head is like a little bit too much. It's just the eyes are open that's it if the eyes are closed I think we'd get away with it

but I'm not going to ruin the whole thing okay I'm not okay I've dealt with it yeah

it was tough for you I could tell yeah I was like David Chase you son of a bitch so the rest of the

episode is them doing it so now they get most they throw most of the body in the water or then bury

the head or how do they do it yeah I think they throw they dump like the torso and shit

but like I think like the head and the hands the hands you gotta bury I think there's like fingerprints and then

head with teeth yeah yeah but like with a torso I don't know I'm not really sure how it works but yeah

I think torso is harder to identify yeah okay so they throw all that in the water and then yeah

Tony and there's that one scene where like they're trying to use a digger yeah but Chris can't do it

and it's like get down get down to that and I'll fucking show you how it's done that really triggered some

stuff for me yeah I remember that oh my God feeling of like you're trying to change gear in the tractor but you're a seven year old little fag and you don't know how to do it

so your dad's like get the fuck down you're useless you're military in something that is no better like symbolism for masculinity and you can't do it and the thing won't work and your dad just standing there smoking a cigarette thinking what this is

what I fucking raised this is my legacy you're in a big hard thing and you're impotent your little soft doughy body and you're wearing your simpson's t-shirt and yeah do the bark man

yeah and your dad is just disgusted yeah oh man and you know what that wasn't a single moment there were many moments of my childhood

it's like I couldn't do this last week what makes you think I could do it this week you haven't taught me anything new why do you keep making me do this god remember I was like 12

and I couldn't reverse a tractor with a trailer on it And my dad was like, you fucking stupid useless cond. I was like, I'm not the asshole here. I'm a child. This is very hard. I can't drive. I'm sorry.

You know? Am I crazy here? I'm the asshole. Yeah. Yeah, fucking. That's great, isn't it? God. I feel bad of people who don't have that childhood.

Yeah, you're missing out. Yeah, I feel bad of people like, I went to school and my dad said, you're the best. And no matter what happens, you. He'd always say I'm the best. Yeah. And we would build model airplanes together and mom would make us lemonade. One time I dropped the airplane and dad said, that's okay. That's okay, yeah.

We could just build it again. Stronger. Why do we fall off the horse to get back on again? Yeah, my father never heard that analogy. Yeah. If you fall off the horse, you're a stupid cunt. why did you fall off the horse because the knacker that sold

it to you was a scumbie yeah anyway so they get rid of the body they dump the body yeah and then we have a scene then of Tony wakes up in the bad of Bing completely empty Chris is obviously fucked off

I think Chris is like this is bad vibes I'm gonna fuck off early okay so Tony is all the fucking disheveled he's wearing a bad a Bing t-shirt Yeah, yeah, just looking like a mess Not a good luck for him Yeah

Complete mess Goes look in the mirror We see a little picture of Tracy Oh yeah Yeah, so I'll see it's a nice picture of tits and stuff as well So like Nice

So it's not too gay With feelings You got tits there Something for the dads You know Something for the dads Yeah That reminds me

When my dad Saw me try fondle A pair of tets Who's like You fucking useless Conch She's not getting wet at all You're useless

Yeah, you're trying to fuck a girl And like It's not going right your dad's watching shaking his head I'm trying to finger a girl on the back of a Massey Ferguson you're not doing that right at all it's not working

try to write her in the link box you know so then Tony leaves the bad of being and it's very bright and it's white light he walks out close the door credits and it's very eerie music is it? I can't remember the music very eerie music I was like that's some great music

looked up it's from like once upon time in the west from some Leone film Sergio Leone Yeah yeah And here's a little fact The This is a harmonica playing in there

Okay Harmonica is played by I think Charles Bronson Oh Yeah because he's in the film He plays the harmonica player In the film Oh very good

No real connection to the episode But it's just a little like This little trivia It probably has some meaning Or subtext that We're too dumb to understand Well like about this Branos is

A lot of shows People go like oh the secret meaning yeah yeah it's all something dumb you know like the rugrats were all abortions

the rogue rats is actually a pro-life propaganda piece or like I listen to like a podcast but succession yeah and it's the worst shit ever

it's all these like New York cunts being like oh what does this mean you know he's rich but he's sad what does it mean

because they don't really have the intelligence to actually analyze this so like so like Logan bad dad what was the podcast

it's called it's on the ringer it's like it's on Bill Simmons network so it's the same people who did like the Woodstock 99 documentary so it's all just like fake pseudo intellectual retard it's like it's all a bunch of people

who wear bow ties and call themselves cultural critics and they go they go on and be like hip hop was crazy you were talking about race it's a young New York Jewish kid I could I have something in common with

Tupac Yeah they're all cons like But um Sopranos There's a lot of symbolism and stuff Yeah Yeah yeah yeah And when people go like

Oh this could be This could mean this you go Actually could Yeah see that yeah Yeah It's like all the signs are there You're right yeah yeah Yeah

Anyway let's uh wrap this up In a second How long have we gone Like an hour 30 Oh, wow. I'm going to edit a little bit, though. No. Yeah, you know what you do?

Edit from an old episode, put it into this. Let's make it three hours long. Let's make it a jingle all the way. I think we had very high hopes for jingle all the way that didn't really materialize. We thought we had really is like, this is it. We have reached the top. Let's talk about the end real quick. For the end, let's talk about the end of Sopranos.

You've had time to digest it? Now recently David Chase has come out And you know I didn't read what he said What do he say He's kind of admitted it before They kind of tricked him one time Where he was like yeah

We wrote the death scene They're like death scene He's like Oh fuck Yeah But he this time he kind of said Look I didn't want to do an actual

Shooting scene Yeah Yeah Because I love Tony so much You don't want to see him be like He also had such contempt For his audience It's like

Oh you've cheered him on And now you want him dead It's like Well yeah it's not that unreasonable you know and also there was so many leaks they were really worried there was a lot of leaks on set yeah yeah yeah like an example

would be do you remember when junior shot Tony yeah they filmed the whole alternative scene where Phil was did that oh Phil Iathardo yeah because they knew those leakers around and they were filming like fake scenes just to like trick them yeah yeah that's so

annoying that you have to do that like so I think he was kind of worried that any ending they do if they shoot an ending okay it'll get leaked so he's like one that can't be leaked. Yeah. Because it's not a scene. Does it exist?

Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. You can't really link like black screen. No music. Yeah. So he, in interview he was like, look, I didn't want to have him there. You don't want to see him just face down in his fucking food. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

So he went that way. But there are a lot of like, uh. There's a lot of things in it. And the more I watch it, the more I watch videos about, the more I notice little things. Yeah. Okay. The very obvious one is, you know, there's that conversation with Bobby when they're on the boat is like, I bet you when it happens, you don't hear nothing. It's just lights out. It's literally like two episodes before the finale.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Then the guy who is kind of suspicious looking, who Tony's keeping an eye on, is wearing a member's only jacket. Yeah. And the episode where he's in the coma and there's possible afterlife, that's called members only. There's the whole scene with like You have to let go if you want to come in here Now there's also the house represents hell Yeah Yeah in that It's like that's where like all of his like relatives

It's like we're all waiting for you That's where his mother is okay And Blondetto is there There's a picture of the house in the restaurant Maybe not of the house Of I hate house that look similar Okay Now in the scene where

He's going to walk into hell Okay He's saved by Meadow Yeah Because Meadow's calling yeah now meadow is his guardian angel in the show okay they actually have in the montage at start of season six yeah if you watch that she's like doing a sexy dance yeah yeah yeah they say guardian angel what do you mean who you know the way it's like um the montage like a guy talking

oh okay yeah yeah and it's like he used the this and she used the dad it's uh is it a fuck Leonard Cohen or tom wait maybe Tom Waits I think yeah yeah yeah but they reference she's the guardian angel in that okay Now, she's not in the restaurant. She's outside. Oh, shit. So his guardian angel isn't there to protect him. And that's why they fucking put so much emphasis on her not being able to part.

Yeah, yeah. Oh, my, dude. Yeah. Dude. Yeah. Dude. See, it's work your time. Fire, bra.

That is straight fire. Dog, that's fire, bro. Another thing is, okay, I'm not even done. I can't even handle it. I can't. Press stop. I need to. Woo.

I'm killing myself. This is too much here. That's great, though. I genuinely, you got me excited there. See, another thing is the guy comes out of, he goes into the bathroom. Yeah. It's at Tony's 3 o'clock. Oh, 3 o'clock from when Chrissy was in the fucking coma.

Yeah. He told me to tell you 3 o'clock. But it's to Polly and Tony. Yeah, yeah. We haven't seen, we didn't see Polly die, though. Could be the same thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow, okay.

Yeah. I think it's another thing as well, but I think that's enough. I'm going to slow down there I think I've blown your mind too much That was great now I like that Yeah yeah Okay

So that's what I mean There is talk put into this Like it's one Like nowadays Netflix shows Like I'll just throw it out Just churn it out Like yeah

Fucking the algorithm Come on And it's and again It's just like Look how many episodes 10 episodes Yeah just fucking I don't know

Let's have one episode Where like he just goes To the shop Who cares fucking Yeah As long as he meets Like a fucking TikTok star

Like Charlie DiMilio shows up It's like, Hey, mister, you're problematic. Thank you, Charlie DeMilleo. No, goodbye. But yeah,

Sopranos is like, they wrote it, back in the day where like every episode had to have like they tried to make it feel like a contain story and yourself.

Yeah, yeah. Where now it's all this dragged out and like, the ending episodes don't really matter. Yeah, yeah. But like, oh God,

it's so big in scope and just how much, like, how referential it is of its, self, like, you know, for example, like that three o'clock, that's like season two. Yeah. When he's shot and in the coma and then, you know, see, yeah, that's great.

Chase said the other ending he was thinking of was, is it the opening credits is him driving to, no, it's driving home. Okay, yeah. It was going to be that. You're going to watch Tony drive home, okay? Oh. And then maybe get shot. Yeah, yeah. By AJ.

Say, try ground me now, dad. I'm going to bang that Puerto Rican home. Yeah, AJ like, yeah, take that and he hops on a motorbike and Uncle June is driving the motorbike. It's like, you fell from my, oh yeah, Alzheimer's, yeah, wink, wink. It's blow this down. Oh, Jesus, God. There's a few hundred, you know the whole cat that comes back in a strip club? Yeah, after Chrissy dies.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to think that was Chrissy A lot of people think it's actually Adrianna Okay Because she's staring at Chrissy Yeah Yeah

And also she wore cat stuff Remember she wore like that The leopard print Yeah Last time we see her She's on all fours Oh And a few of her cat stuff in it as well

That makes people think It's a bit more of a reach But I like it I know it's more of a reach Yeah I'm just seeing What else they think Yeah

She Adriana had a pussy And it's a pussy Oh brilliant The other little theories are like that little carmine was actually pulling the strings. Yeah, he was a lot more like, um, he pretended to be dumb. What do they call like an idiot savant? Yeah, yeah.

McAvelian. But he intentionally like, you know, reference things to get people angry, like Phil's brother and stuff like that to get them angry. Brother Billy, whatever happened there? Whatever happened there? Yeah, yeah. That's another fun theory. I tell you, a lot of characters in the show that I watched his first time, you're just like,

Hey, where's Tony? Yeah. Where's, where's, Paulie? Where's Gabagool? Yeah, but like, rewatch it, all the little side characters

like that guy Eugene who kills himself. Yes, yeah. All they feel like, I love him all. Yeah, God. And they really, like, you know, linger on that

him hanging himself. Yeah. And then I was watching, he's like, I've seen this somewhere before. Why is this from? No, no. Did he also want to leave the mafia?

Oh no That's why he got angry at me For not being able to drive the tractor He was distressed He was in the mafia Because he's working both sides And the FBI wouldn't help him out either Is there any characters you hate in Sopranos

Before we go Is there anything you don't like about Sopranos Oh, jeez This is a real reach now But I always thought it was a little bit Not even lame This is like he put a gun to my head Yeah

A factor like Oh yeah Your cousin who's in prison We never mentioned him before Oh Blondetto Yeah it did feel a bit like he's just coming,

like, Hey, poochie. Yeah, like out of nowhere. It just felt a little bit like, new season.

Oh, remember this guy? Yeah. Oh, we all love Tony B. Yeah, you're right. They never really mentioned them before. But,

yeah, it's true. Well, that's a reach, like, that's if you had to pick something. Yeah, yeah,

yeah. Yeah, and it's kind of like, they really try and force it in. It's like, oh, my first ever panic attack was because I was meant to do

the bloody blood dead too me. And a couple of shots. Shines, jump me. Shine, that's a slur. That's a funny slur, though. I assume it's to do with shiny shoes, missed it? I never thought that.

That's the only thing I can think of. I thought it's meant black people are shiny. I was like, that's a compliment. They are, though, aren't it? You go blind, look at them. That's why you own men in black. They're like the shades. Yeah, that thing that wipes your memory is just

Will Smith smiles just his white teeth like burns your retinas Yeah apart from that I couldn't really think I'm anything I don't like in supremacist

No I mean like I hate Janice so much But that's just testament To how good a character she is The bit when she's talking to her therapist And she's like They hate me because I'm creative Yeah

Yeah They talk about God And they're like She Yeah Yeah And it's just my father Yeah, you know, she just is like the worst

antithesis of the type of people you see nowadays. Isn't there a lot of Janus is around now? Oh, Janus is everywhere. You know what? Janice is a great word. Instead of saying like, you know, like retard or anything. Karen, even. Yeah, Karen. Just say Janus. Just blanket Janus. Just the Karen thing come from

that day and cook bit. Is that where that came from? I never even heard that bit. Yeah, he's got a bit, it's like, oh, everyone's got that friend. She's always called Karen. Karen's a bitch. Maybe originated from a number of sources and that's one of the sources. In fairness, he might have just ripped that off from somebody else.

Yeah. Anyway, Karen is like a kind of dumb bitch. Anyway, let's wrap this up now. We're going, oh my God, wow. Yeah, yeah. Very long. Yeah, I kind of don't want to the end. Yeah.

Because you got to go back to your weird, sad little house with your mongo and the shed and incest in the attic or whatever's going on. Yeah. I know, I love it. I love it. Yeah. Anyway, let's... Is this a free one?

Yeah, it is, yeah. Let's, uh, let's wrap this up now. We got flagrant. We got Andrew Schultz. Whoa, man. Which one's Andrew and which one's the Indian? Which one's the... You're Andrew, let's be honest.

I'm Andrew, I'm not? Yeah, you're very Andrew, yeah. I've always said that about you. Really? Yeah. I'm a wicker, basically. You're an Andrew... Bro, right, straight fire, bro.

My dog, Tula coming down, bringing a knowledge fan. I'm definitely a little Indian being like, oh, yes, you're right, yeah. What do you think about this story, Schultz? Shut your fucking my bitch. Shine my shoes, motherfucker. he can say it because he's a wigger he knows Charlemagne

he can say it I mean that's that's one that's that's getting harder to listen to you find I don't really listen to it yeah I don't really listen to it either

yeah I used to like like you know they're funny but you know now it's like it was just the two of them but now it's like

all the tech guys on the side they're like chiming in the fucking people's court I don't like when there's like a podcast with like five people shudding over each other I find it

my auto autism kicks in. No, like, legit. I, like, get very, like, distracted or, like, dizzy. I'm like, oh, that's too much. I like it sometimes if it's, if it's good and it's actually funny, but a lot of these times, the tech guys are like, yeah, man. Oh, no, man, no. Oh, yeah, yeah. It's just thing we add shit. Also, it's very much, like, kind of like, it's like a mini Rogan situation or like nobody wants to disagree with Schultz. Yeah. Tell you what, Schultz, he needs more confidence, didn't he? Like, and that's what he's got now, because if you've seen his shows, like his stand-up shows I've seen clips of him I don't even know how you do stand-up during him it's like girls are tits out

and balloons everywhere and there's like someone with a foam gun like bingo loco yeah it's going full on like fucking astro world like yeah it looks mental yeah we never talked about that

aluminum daddy blood sacrifice bitch yeah basically Alec Baldwin killed a bunch of people and Astro World Alec Baldwin did blackface and pretended to be Travis Scott

anyway anyway I'm gonna head off now yeah we gotta go thank you bye Long on goodbye.