Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 14 : Leaving Tallon-Land
Episode Date: March 12, 2019Special Guest Matthew Tallon appears to talk about Michael Jackson....
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                                        Choo-choo!
                                         
                                        Hoping board the podcast train.
                                         
                                        We're about to go to the laughter camps.
                                         
                                        Welcome to Brian and James Fuckie Jutter.
                                         
                                        I'm Brian O'Toole with James Kedin and special guest Matthew,
                                         
                                        the Italian-Stallion Telling.
                                         
                                        Woo!
                                         
                                        Woo, roo, roo.
                                         
    
                                        I just want to let everyone know that before we start recording,
                                         
                                        Brian said, don't worry, I've got a good idea of how to start.
                                         
                                        And that's what it was.
                                         
                                        So, uh...
                                         
                                        He was so confident.
                                         
                                        It was very well.
                                         
                                        That's fun.
                                         
                                        say what it's very fun i practice it on the drive-up did you yeah i practiced the podcasters the people
                                         
    
                                        listening can't see this but i did the you know the chew you did yeah i did the like pull it push the my hand
                                         
                                        movement of me pulled a little thing that goes chew chew uh and yeah well it's good well how did you
                                         
                                        like it matthew i think it was a well started podcast yeah yeah yeah start every podcast with that
                                         
                                        he doesn't usually never usually this animated your presence is obviously having quite an effect on
                                         
                                        that's good it's good like to have an extra
                                         
                                        in the room because then like if I can't think of anything just cut it that's my role
                                         
                                        yeah yeah we throw it over to Matthew when things get quiet yeah so Matthew
                                         
                                        thank you're being here you're literally the only reason we still do this podcast yes you're our
                                         
    
                                        number one fan yeah I am I was I was very worried about that like fucking up your guys's
                                         
                                        dynamic oh impossible we don't have a dynamic really so such a lack of dynamic like
                                         
                                        yeah like it does really like it's very bad blood between us as well like oh yeah yeah
                                         
                                        If someone just in between those,
                                         
                                        just in case all kicks off.
                                         
                                        It's good.
                                         
                                        If it fucks up,
                                         
                                        though, I can go home
                                         
    
                                        and complain about me being on the podcast online
                                         
                                        in the comments section and stuff.
                                         
                                        So that'll be,
                                         
                                        I'll be in general.
                                         
                                        I hope you do,
                                         
                                        because any kind of interest at all.
                                         
                                        The fact that anyone leaves a comment
                                         
                                        is just amazing,
                                         
    
                                        that that would be wonderful.
                                         
                                        Like, I'm not joking.
                                         
                                        Like, we recorded four episodes this.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        And nothing happens.
                                         
                                        I know you're supposed to, like,
                                         
                                        record a podcast.
                                         
                                        Like, I know,
                                         
    
                                        I wasn't expecting, like,
                                         
                                        a HBO show straight away.
                                         
                                        Like, you know,
                                         
                                        too dope queen.
                                         
                                        no who are they they're two
                                         
                                        they're two dope
                                         
                                        they're two women like
                                         
                                        uh they're having a podcast
                                         
    
                                        and got popular another HBO show
                                         
                                        I wasn't expecting that after four episodes
                                         
                                        no well I was expecting at least
                                         
                                        more than 10 lights
                                         
                                        yeah maybe maybe like a see-so special
                                         
                                        while it was still going
                                         
                                        or someone to share
                                         
                                        I'd take a see-so special now
                                         
    
                                        did nobody say yeah was I the first
                                         
                                        you're the 41st person real life
                                         
                                        and he can be any kind of compliment
                                         
                                        it ever yeah
                                         
                                        regarding the podcast or not
                                         
                                        I don't think you understand.
                                         
                                        I was ready, okay?
                                         
                                        I had, you know, in cartoons,
                                         
    
                                        at the rock tide to the roll.
                                         
                                        I was standing at the bridge
                                         
                                        and there's people driving by saying,
                                         
                                        do it.
                                         
                                        And then you said something nice and I was like,
                                         
                                        James, we're going back into the studio.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So, no, thanks for listening, Matthew,
                                         
    
                                        and now thank you, you're being a part of it.
                                         
                                        This is your chance to shine.
                                         
                                        Yeah, this is my big shot.
                                         
                                        I feel like I spent the entire time
                                         
                                        looking at the little audio waves coming.
                                         
                                        I can realize I should probably
                                         
                                        That's a little trick there.
                                         
                                        Don't look at the auto waves.
                                         
    
                                        It'll just confuse.
                                         
                                        That's my voice in computer language.
                                         
                                        Yeah, this is my big break.
                                         
                                        So tell you the listeners, who are you?
                                         
                                        Who are you?
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Oh, fuck, I should have prepared this.
                                         
                                        No, don't.
                                         
    
                                        Freestyle.
                                         
                                        Freestyle, baby.
                                         
                                        Matthew Tallinn.
                                         
                                        I'm a comedian.
                                         
                                        I do comedy with Brian and James.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        And we're part of the Dublin burgeoning circuit.
                                         
                                        Correct.
                                         
    
                                        Correct.
                                         
                                        The up-and-comers.
                                         
                                        how long you've been doing it actually matthew
                                         
                                        like a year and a half
                                         
                                        yeah it's disgusting
                                         
                                        no no
                                         
                                        that's cool
                                         
                                        how long are you doing more than a year and a half
                                         
    
                                        yeah yeah
                                         
                                        yeah well you're fair play
                                         
                                        I'm not jealous
                                         
                                        he hasn't stopped staring at him
                                         
                                        just direct eye contact
                                         
                                        yeah yeah I opened the door to Matthew
                                         
                                        in a robe
                                         
                                        I don't know
                                         
    
                                        I left for a while
                                         
                                        and then I've come back
                                         
                                        and where were you like
                                         
                                        I was living in Chicago
                                         
                                        Oh, that's deadly
                                         
                                        I'm going to Boston
                                         
                                        I'm doing a J-1
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
    
                                        I have an interview
                                         
                                        Did you have to do an interview
                                         
                                        With the J-1 people
                                         
                                        No, I did one
                                         
                                        I did one
                                         
                                        But I went to the embassy
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        And I was really scary
                                         
    
                                        Because in the line ahead of you
                                         
                                        It was all people
                                         
                                        Who had like
                                         
                                        Been to Iraq
                                         
                                        Or Syria and stuff
                                         
                                        And they were like
                                         
                                        Grilling them
                                         
                                        For 10 minutes
                                         
    
                                        So then they're just like
                                         
                                        Oh you're Irish
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        It was very very racist
                                         
                                        Like we're not like
                                         
                                        We know how it is
                                         
                                        Like we're the white skin color
                                         
                                        Well you know
                                         
    
                                        that may have been once upon a time
                                         
                                        but now, because of this latest
                                         
                                        development, this Irish girl. A girl
                                         
                                        from Dundalk. Matthew, you've heard of it. I have
                                         
                                        not heard about this. I've checked this out.
                                         
                                        A girl from Dundalk joined Isis.
                                         
                                        And you might know that the full story. She was
                                         
                                        a fucking airline play with it, okay, and just
                                         
    
                                        pictures of her with Bertie. Is that right?
                                         
                                        Yeah. Oh my God.
                                         
                                        Buddy or her? Yeah. Just we thought Bertie couldn't get more
                                         
                                        crooked, okay. Now he's got
                                         
                                        links to Syria. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        But like... So this girl, Dundalk girl,
                                         
                                        okay.
                                         
                                        Dundalk girl. Oh, he on.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, here now, oh, it's famous warm out here, hey.
                                         
                                        Do I have to wear this burq at the whole time, do I?
                                         
                                        Well, sure you law bring death to Western civilization.
                                         
                                        Yeah, she's joined.
                                         
                                        She's going to fuck it up for all the Irish people now.
                                         
                                        Because now they're going to think they wear a whole.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Well, here's the thing now, because last few episodes we were talking with the,
                                         
    
                                        there's an English girl who joined ISIS and she wanted to get back.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah, that's what I thought you were talking about.
                                         
                                        This is a separate one.
                                         
                                        This is a separate one.
                                         
                                        The English girl, she's still, and the baby died.
                                         
                                        She had a baby
                                         
                                        It died
                                         
                                        I was just thinking
                                         
    
                                        I'm sure there's a lot of
                                         
                                        People in the British media
                                         
                                        We saw it and I'm like
                                         
                                        Oh it's a shame that we can get to
                                         
                                        A lot of daily mail raiders
                                         
                                        Just like fucking good
                                         
                                        Oh yeah
                                         
                                        There's lots of people like proper celebrating
                                         
    
                                        Chuck it in the Tens mate
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Horrible
                                         
                                        Well that's awful
                                         
                                        So what's
                                         
                                        Well then I assume now that the baby's dead
                                         
                                        They're like well
                                         
                                        that was your only leverage honey
                                         
    
                                        so get the fuck out of here
                                         
                                        that's basically
                                         
                                        that's exactly what's
                                         
                                        seriously
                                         
                                        oh yeah
                                         
                                        see I could be in the British Parliament
                                         
                                        you know what I mean
                                         
                                        I look down on plebs
                                         
    
                                        just like anybody else
                                         
                                        but now I think
                                         
                                        because English were so rough
                                         
                                        on that one
                                         
                                        the Irish government
                                         
                                        they're like
                                         
                                        well we kind of have to treat
                                         
                                        our one a little bit better
                                         
    
                                        oh okay
                                         
                                        they're gonna bring
                                         
                                        probably going to let her back in
                                         
                                        and put her in house of rest
                                         
                                        or something like that
                                         
                                        Irish government
                                         
                                        a little more sympathetic to terrorism
                                         
                                        oh political
                                         
    
                                        so what now she's got a safe house
                                         
                                        you were going to there back in I think
                                         
                                        but he's so weird that like I could
                                         
                                        I live in Dundalk okay
                                         
                                        so I could like be walking around
                                         
                                        you can run into her
                                         
                                        yeah I could walk around Tesco and meet her
                                         
                                        do you think you recognise it?
                                         
    
                                        I'd bring on to the show
                                         
                                        that would really
                                         
                                        upstage me as a guest
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        if it was like
                                         
                                        if it was an Isis
                                         
                                        it was like we got two special guests
                                         
                                        we got a woman who used to be in ISIS
                                         
    
                                        and has literally killed people
                                         
                                        and Matthew
                                         
                                        who's been to Chicago
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        let's uh
                                         
                                        You know, credit, credit's true.
                                         
                                        There's no contest during England.
                                         
                                        How much Chicago, actually?
                                         
    
                                        It's kind of, like, well-known for having a great comedy scene.
                                         
                                        Did you do many gigs over there?
                                         
                                        A lot of gang violence.
                                         
                                        Yeah, comedy and gang violence.
                                         
                                        It's improv and gang violence.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Sometimes at the same time, it's very good.
                                         
                                        Give me a job.
                                         
    
                                        Give me your money.
                                         
                                        Yes, and here is my money.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I did a lot of gigs.
                                         
                                        It was pretty, I was like, I loved it.
                                         
                                        but I was stressed out all the time
                                         
                                        because the gigs are all over the city
                                         
                                        and I live like
                                         
    
                                        like fucking nowhere
                                         
                                        like a way down in the south side
                                         
                                        so you're like running around
                                         
                                        trying to get to as many gigs as possible
                                         
                                        how many gigs you're doing a night
                                         
                                        but like two a night
                                         
                                        that's cool yeah it was very cool
                                         
                                        sometimes you could try to do three
                                         
    
                                        when I first moved there though I'd try to get like three or four
                                         
                                        into a night and I'd miss like all of them
                                         
                                        and just like go around the entire city
                                         
                                        yeah you end up just tired yourself yeah oh Jesus
                                         
                                        just curl into a ball in the street
                                         
                                        I've done that
                                         
                                        And that's how people
                                         
                                        become homeless
                                         
    
                                        That's what happened
                                         
                                        To many of the homeless people
                                         
                                        In Chicago
                                         
                                        Failed comedians
                                         
                                        I tried to make it
                                         
                                        In the second city
                                         
                                        But I missed the train
                                         
                                        Spare a dollar, sir
                                         
    
                                        He doesn't know what heard is
                                         
                                        Mr. Farr
                                         
                                        Are he still in S&L
                                         
                                        He owes to be 20 quid
                                         
                                        For a bag
                                         
                                        So how do you find the audiences
                                         
                                        Then like
                                         
                                        Is there a huge difference
                                         
    
                                        Between like American audiences
                                         
                                        And Irish audiences
                                         
                                        uh yeah the american audiences
                                         
                                        give more of a shit that you're there
                                         
                                        so they actually like they kind of like care a little bit
                                         
                                        I mean like you still get hecklers and shit
                                         
                                        but if you go to like if you go to like the bigger clubs
                                         
                                        and stuff like the laugh factory and everything when everybody's
                                         
    
                                        out for like their night they kind of treat it
                                         
                                        more like a theater thing or something
                                         
                                        where they're like looking up at you
                                         
                                        instead of like if you do a big club in Dublin they're kind of like
                                         
                                        yeah oh yeah
                                         
                                        you don't do his club in Dublin it literally is this
                                         
                                        the people there are basically like bags of dog shit
                                         
                                        with people's faces
                                         
    
                                        like they're not like you know
                                         
                                        just kind of scum yeah and our job
                                         
                                        was to just dance for the scum
                                         
                                        yes yes that's really yeah
                                         
                                        that's why I say I'm getting on stage
                                         
                                        like hey scum
                                         
                                        you want to see me dance do you
                                         
                                        and I just take off my shirt
                                         
    
                                        yeah and you usually have something
                                         
                                        written on your stomach
                                         
                                        yeah speaking of which nice little segue
                                         
                                        Brian you did a roast battle
                                         
                                        I did a roast battle how was the roast battle
                                         
                                        it was good James Reffson I did a roast battle
                                         
                                        with Brian Geller and I wrote
                                         
                                        I had a joke or I
                                         
    
                                        I said something
                                         
                                        I wrote roasted on my stomach
                                         
                                        a bit like prop comedy
                                         
                                        Yeah using yourself as a prop
                                         
                                        My body is a tool
                                         
                                        But I spelled roasted wrong
                                         
                                        That was only honestly unintentional
                                         
                                        That's just because of show like
                                         
    
                                        Even when I make mistakes it works
                                         
                                        In the overall picture
                                         
                                        So you wrote it, I would have figured
                                         
                                        You got someone to write it on you
                                         
                                        Who would I get to write on my stone?
                                         
                                        You know a lot of weird people
                                         
                                        I think you could definitely find someone
                                         
                                        That was a pretty well written
                                         
    
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Catheraphyrophy was pretty great
                                         
                                        Yeah, I, I, because I have to write, it's, you know yourself when you're writing on yourself.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        Yeah, many times.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah, when you're writing on yourself, like, you have to do it like backwards.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, so you have to, try doing it an S, listeners, do an S backwards right now, you know what I mean.
                                         
                                        Okay, it's hard when you think.
                                         
                                        I'm dyslexic.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, that's true.
                                         
                                        You are dyslexic.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        It's something I struggle with every day.
                                         
                                        Well, you didn't let it, I mean, nobody really noticed because it was very quick.
                                         
    
                                        You lifted the shirt.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        You got the applause.
                                         
                                        It was nobody noticed.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        There's a fun roast.
                                         
                                        Your arm as well.
                                         
                                        I actually
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, I'll say it
                                         
                                        Like, I actually
                                         
                                        A swat sticker on my, on my leg
                                         
                                        A what?
                                         
                                        Did you say a swastika or a swat sticker?
                                         
                                        You said swat sticker, what is that?
                                         
                                        What's a swat sticker?
                                         
                                        What's a swat sticker, how do you pronounce it?
                                         
    
                                        Swastika?
                                         
                                        Swat sticker.
                                         
                                        Swat sticker.
                                         
                                        Swat sticker.
                                         
                                        I don't know, I'm dyslexic.
                                         
                                        I did a swat sticker,
                                         
                                        a Nazi symbol on my leg
                                         
                                        Yes, for clarification.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, yeah, on one leg
                                         
                                        and then the word roast on my other leg.
                                         
                                        I thought it used that later on the roast,
                                         
                                        but I was like
                                         
                                        I didn't need it
                                         
                                        Were you gonna pull that in your pants?
                                         
                                        No
                                         
                                        I was just gonna
                                         
    
                                        That's when I lost the roast battle
                                         
                                        I just
                                         
                                        I just presented myself to Gallagher
                                         
                                        Like
                                         
                                        The wordy man is won
                                         
                                        Now you all know where this was
                                         
                                        Now you may insert me
                                         
                                        And then he just puts it in
                                         
    
                                        And Jim Elliot and
                                         
                                        You know Colin and Martin Agolo
                                         
                                        They give their commentary
                                         
                                        They all watch your spittles throwing money
                                         
                                        As
                                         
                                        As they fuck
                                         
                                        That's really how we should end
                                         
                                        No, no, notorious.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        It's kind of like, you know that fetish, Vore?
                                         
                                        No, what is that?
                                         
                                        Vore is this fetish where it's all about being eaten by someone, just being consumed.
                                         
                                        Oh, oh.
                                         
                                        And you've seen Brian Geller, he's way bigger than me, so he could just like, just, yeah, so you look up video.
                                         
                                        We look up videos after this.
                                         
                                        I don't want to.
                                         
    
                                        And listeners, after you've done that backwards S, look up this.
                                         
                                        Yeah, so it's all these pictures of guys, like, you know, being swallowed up by, like, a big woman.
                                         
                                        And this guy's smiling because he's so, like.
                                         
                                        So actually being like, how does she fit them?
                                         
                                        It's not real.
                                         
                                        Oh, it's like animated.
                                         
                                        It's animated or really badly drawn on like MSPs.
                                         
                                        Where it's like, yeah, no, you didn't specify.
                                         
    
                                        And I just got my, I went to a very weird place.
                                         
                                        I was like, the logistics alone.
                                         
                                        How would you start with the feet and then just kind of like a snake.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Like real deep throat and like gag reflex.
                                         
                                        Yeah, but it's hard to actually eat someone.
                                         
                                        It is.
                                         
                                        It is.
                                         
    
                                        Brian, what are we talking about?
                                         
                                        So the roast battle.
                                         
                                        So that's why I was thinking of when Brian was roasting me.
                                         
                                        Well, you were thinking of four.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        It's a porn.
                                         
                                        It's a type of porn.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's why I lost because I was too distracted.
                                         
    
                                        Brian has some great jokes.
                                         
                                        The best joke,
                                         
                                        see, I love being roasted.
                                         
                                        Brian said I looked like every member,
                                         
                                        every cast member of Trainspot.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Especially a dead baby.
                                         
                                        That was a great joke.
                                         
    
                                        See, I love being roasted.
                                         
                                        Like, my favorite thing after roast is to go back to my friends
                                         
                                        and tell them the jokes he told them.
                                         
                                        than me.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        I like that.
                                         
                                        And so how did you find then just like the process of writing jokes?
                                         
                                        Is that something that you?
                                         
    
                                        It's hard.
                                         
                                        Like,
                                         
                                        Brian's such a nice guy.
                                         
                                        Yes,
                                         
                                        that's true.
                                         
                                        I don't like even winning roast battles.
                                         
                                        Like,
                                         
                                        I won a roast battle in Edinburgh against this guy.
                                         
    
                                        And I felt,
                                         
                                        I actually apologized him afterwards because I felt bad about him.
                                         
                                        Oh, wow.
                                         
                                        Yeah,
                                         
                                        I was just like,
                                         
                                        oh, because he was just like a bit floundering.
                                         
                                        I felt like too powerful.
                                         
                                        Oh, I see.
                                         
    
                                        You know me.
                                         
                                        I'm not used to feeling powerful.
                                         
                                        I've done one roast battle.
                                         
                                        I'm just to reiterate what you said.
                                         
                                        It is hard to like,
                                         
                                        sit down.
                                         
                                        It's like, okay, here's my subject.
                                         
                                        And this guy I didn't really know too well, Chris McShane.
                                         
    
                                        I know him now.
                                         
                                        And again, he's a really nice guy.
                                         
                                        And in fairness, he, I can't, I think he won the roast battle, but it was fairly even
                                         
                                        handed the whole way through.
                                         
                                        But it is hard to just sit down, just like, what can I write about this person?
                                         
                                        I don't know, like, you know?
                                         
                                        Yeah, I'm not like, I'm either too nice or too mean, you know?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        It's hard to go, it's hard to go funny mean.
                                         
                                        Because the day after the roast, I just kept on thinking of roast jokes about
                                         
                                        random comedians that I knew.
                                         
                                        Oh, because you got all fired up from no.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I got all.
                                         
                                        It was so it was exciting.
                                         
                                        See, a lot of roast jokes I think about comedians, I'm not allowed to say it.
                                         
                                        They are career enders.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Yours or theirs?
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        Obviously, mine, like, what, fuck.
                                         
                                        We're both blessed with an incredible ability to write jokes that we could never tell anyone.
                                         
                                        We're going to stop recording this.
                                         
                                        We're going to tell you something.
                                         
                                        It's about, be it.
                                         
    
                                        He didn't like it.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        No sense of humor.
                                         
                                        So you'd be up for roasting, would you?
                                         
                                        Yeah, I'd love to do a roast.
                                         
                                        I feel like I come across as like kind of awkward and friendly.
                                         
                                        I'd love to just go up and like eviscerate.
                                         
                                        Yeah, you'd be like kind of like you'd fool them and then you stab a knife in there.
                                         
    
                                        Yes, exactly.
                                         
                                        Black flag.
                                         
                                        Black flag.
                                         
                                        A lot of prison shank.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        To the toothbrush that you carved.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        And then the judges are like, well, you're not supposed to stab them.
                                         
    
                                        As I was saying, I'm doing J1.
                                         
                                        I'm a bit paranoid about stuff that I say in the podcast might affect my chance to get in the country.
                                         
                                        You think the NSA are going to be listening to...
                                         
                                        I'm just saying, you haven't even heard my opinions in Israel yet.
                                         
                                        I'm waiting.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Oh, do you want to get into this right now?
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Just give me a quick, yay or nay for Israel.
                                         
                                        It's more complicated than that.
                                         
                                        I'm going to say nay and then not yet, what?
                                         
                                        Flip a coin.
                                         
                                        Ney employees, I want Israel to strive.
                                         
                                        And yay just means, like, what, I support everything they do in all history.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        You're putting me in a weird spot here.
                                         
    
                                        Well, you brought it up.
                                         
                                        Just some Zionists listen to this.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Eurovision's being held in Israel.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        And an Irish woman is going to be
                                         
                                        the, on Israel side.
                                         
                                        Is that right?
                                         
    
                                        Sarah McTiernan, I think her name is.
                                         
                                        And how did she come to be
                                         
                                        representing Israel?
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        She came to her in the vice of Ireland
                                         
                                        in 2015.
                                         
                                        And so natural next step.
                                         
                                        She disappeared for a while
                                         
    
                                        and then she showed up in Israel
                                         
                                        and now she's singing a song called 22.
                                         
                                        Maybe it's like the Dundalk lady
                                         
                                        leaving and joining ISIS.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        They teamed up and picked sides.
                                         
                                        Maybe those two are going to start a super group together.
                                         
                                        That, no, no, no, no.
                                         
    
                                        That would be a good sitcom.
                                         
                                        That's a moneymaker right there.
                                         
                                        You know, Ebony and Ivory?
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Israel and ISIS.
                                         
                                        Where's the original odd couple?
                                         
                                        You need the toilet seat down.
                                         
                                        You kill Palestinians.
                                         
    
                                        So yeah, it's a lot of controversy about this.
                                         
                                        People are saying you should bicar up Eurovision now because Israel's about,
                                         
                                        they say because they're trying to show a bright and sunny side to Israel.
                                         
                                        And another big thing is a lot of soldiers will be watching this.
                                         
                                        There would be a lot of free tickets.
                                         
                                        for soldiers to watch this girl before.
                                         
                                        So it's big thing, like, and again,
                                         
                                        there's no simple thing like Israel, like, it's like...
                                         
    
                                        Very complex, yes.
                                         
                                        It's a complex issue.
                                         
                                        Well, they're acting like dicks,
                                         
                                        but also, you know, you're the gay fellow
                                         
                                        for Mrs. Brown's boys.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        He likes Israel.
                                         
                                        Does he?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Okay, that's good to know.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I wonder if they're going to work that into the next season
                                         
                                        of Mrs. Brown's boys.
                                         
                                        Well, he left.
                                         
                                        He left.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, does Mr. Brown boys still exist?
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        Of course.
                                         
                                        This is why you're not.
                                         
                                        That's why you're not.
                                         
                                        That's why you're going to succeed.
                                         
                                        it's going from strength to strength
                                         
                                        it kind of feels like
                                         
    
                                        it's coming to the end though
                                         
                                        like really no
                                         
                                        you think
                                         
                                        a hundred percent
                                         
                                        no gosh she's got a chat show
                                         
                                        she's got a sitcom
                                         
                                        and probably another movie coming out
                                         
                                        animated series
                                         
    
                                        is she not like is the character
                                         
                                        VR experience
                                         
                                        not kind of offensive to trans people
                                         
                                        how do trans people feel about
                                         
                                        Mrs. Barnes boys
                                         
                                        I don't know
                                         
                                        the fact of Brendan O'Carrow
                                         
                                        why are you asking fucking Matthew
                                         
    
                                        I'm not I was opening it up to
                                         
                                        like a general like has there been any
                                         
                                        No, well she's not in any way
                                         
                                        I know, but it's just like a very
                                         
                                        old comedy trope of like
                                         
                                        Man dress as a woman
                                         
                                        Ah, but it's not like she's playing a transgender person
                                         
                                        No, no Irish mammy
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, Irish mammies are like, you know Irish mammy
                                         
                                        Irish mammy, always crying
                                         
                                        on Christmas Day. They're mental, aren't
                                         
                                        Yeah, they are mental
                                         
                                        Very mental
                                         
                                        So, yeah, Mrs Brown's going from strength to strength
                                         
                                        Well, that's good to know
                                         
                                        Speaking of transsexual, I went to the George
                                         
    
                                        Actually, I'm meant to say transsexuals
                                         
                                        transgendered. We've gotten in trouble for that.
                                         
                                        I did, yeah.
                                         
                                        I'm from Cardle. I'm so
                                         
                                        dumb. I'm trying
                                         
                                        my best. I, how many men
                                         
                                        do, how many, who do I have to shift
                                         
                                        to prove that I'm progressively?
                                         
    
                                        I'll shift them all, okay?
                                         
                                        I'll take video of it, okay? I'll get my knees.
                                         
                                        Yeah. Yeah, transgender.
                                         
                                        Stick that on your J-1.
                                         
                                        Yeah. I will, I will go down
                                         
                                        on Caitlin Jenner if you let me into the country.
                                         
                                        Yeah. All right. So,
                                         
                                        speaking, what were we talking? I was just saying I went to the George
                                         
    
                                        and it's a lovely, cool thing. I went to the George.
                                         
                                        I went to the George once before
                                         
                                        but it was during the day
                                         
                                        I kind of went in
                                         
                                        because I was a bit lost
                                         
                                        What's the George like during the day?
                                         
                                        Just like no man's book
                                         
                                        No man
                                         
    
                                        Do they not realize?
                                         
                                        They're watching the footy
                                         
                                        But then like
                                         
                                        When the sun goes down
                                         
                                        They all sort of transform
                                         
                                        Like a werewolf
                                         
                                        You know
                                         
                                        Like Triller
                                         
    
                                        Which we'll get to that
                                         
                                        Oh we'll get to that
                                         
                                        Oh shit
                                         
                                        By the way
                                         
                                        We're going to get to Triller there on
                                         
                                        Where's the Pino Char
                                         
                                        It's like too out the window
                                         
                                        Oh yeah
                                         
    
                                        Because I can't afford it anymore
                                         
                                        I'm already in dead
                                         
                                        Yeah, okay.
                                         
                                        We'll stick to the George and we'll get one to Michael Jackson.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        So I went to the George after the roast.
                                         
                                        I met these two people and they brought me to the George.
                                         
                                        Really enjoyed it.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I actually take back, you know, we like...
                                         
                                        All the homophobic things I've said.
                                         
                                        Because I, in the past I've been slightly dismissive of the whole drag race kind of thing.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        A bit like it's like, oh, it's not...
                                         
                                        But then I see it in there, it's like, oh, it's actually an expression of like, you know,
                                         
    
                                        they're having the crack and stuff like.
                                         
                                        Well, I'm sort of of the opinion, and most, you know, an artist would agree that to earn your place on the stage, you have to kind of suffer for the stage.
                                         
                                        And I think they definitely qualify for that.
                                         
                                        They've faced a lot of persecution.
                                         
                                        They deserve to be up there.
                                         
                                        It's like, it's like slingblade.
                                         
                                        It's not like slingblade in any way, but, uh...
                                         
                                        No, it is.
                                         
    
                                        But they didn't like sling blades.
                                         
                                        Who didn't?
                                         
                                        People, like...
                                         
                                        Did you go around the George asking?
                                         
                                        So, Slingblade!
                                         
                                        That Billy Bob Thornton, huh?
                                         
                                        No, it is, because, like, didn't like him at first.
                                         
                                        Is that right?
                                         
    
                                        And then, you know, because they didn't trust him
                                         
                                        And then he befriended that kid
                                         
                                        And then he killed the lad
                                         
                                        I haven't seen him
                                         
                                        He went back to prison
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        Who is sling blaze?
                                         
                                        Oh, it's Billy Bob Thornton plays a mental patient
                                         
    
                                        And he kills his mother
                                         
                                        Oh, okay
                                         
                                        With a sling blade
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        But then, because it's like
                                         
                                        But then they all forgive him
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        That's kind of a sweet redemption story
                                         
    
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Because he like he's not mentally there
                                         
                                        So he didn't know exactly what he was doing
                                         
                                        So he killed his mother
                                         
                                        And the guy who was fucking his mother
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        And then the guy from A Simple Rules is in it.
                                         
                                        John Ritter?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, John Ritter, yeah.
                                         
                                        Oh, he's his thing thing.
                                         
                                        Yeah, John Ritter, yeah.
                                         
                                        He had a heart attack in real life.
                                         
                                        And he's like a family.
                                         
                                        He was like on a sitcom for a.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        And they continued, he was the main character
                                         
    
                                        and they continued the sitcom after they died.
                                         
                                        Like, they just, like the episode started.
                                         
                                        They just came in.
                                         
                                        It's like, well, we just came back from dad's funeral.
                                         
                                        Oh, boy.
                                         
                                        It's like they're doing Roseanne now, aren't they without Rosan?
                                         
                                        Are they doing Rosal without Rosan?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, wow.
                                         
                                        That's gonna bomb, like...
                                         
                                        No, it did well.
                                         
                                        It was no...
                                         
                                        Yeah, I think it was number one in the ratings.
                                         
                                        They got John Goodman on it.
                                         
                                        Well, John Good.
                                         
                                        I like John Goodman.
                                         
    
                                        He's great, yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, this is called the Connors, and it's just...
                                         
                                        I think it's like that, like, Roseanne, like...
                                         
                                        Is it still?
                                         
                                        Well, we just buried Rosanne.
                                         
                                        It was a big grave.
                                         
                                        You know, they kept all the Trump shit from her, like, from her influence?
                                         
                                        No, they definitely got rid of all that stuff, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        God, that was very unfortunate, but, like, she is sort of has been exhibiting symptoms of kind of just
                                         
                                        losing touch with.
                                         
                                        with, like, reality.
                                         
                                        But that's a bit like drags.
                                         
                                        We'll bring it back to that.
                                         
                                        Like, everyone treats her badly, but there's a good soul deep down.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I believe that.
                                         
                                        It's kind of like people do drag.
                                         
    
                                        Sure, yes.
                                         
                                        You shouldn't judge them just because of what did you say.
                                         
                                        I used to go to the George quite a lot, actually, when I was younger.
                                         
                                        I'm going again?
                                         
                                        Yeah, dude.
                                         
                                        I used to go there because I was, like, my best friend from school,
                                         
                                        he actually came out to me when he was 15.
                                         
                                        I was the first person he came out to it.
                                         
    
                                        So when he, like, living in Monum, though,
                                         
                                        you couldn't exactly be two out of the closet because it's still a very backward place
                                         
                                        and it definitely was like 10, 15 years ago.
                                         
                                        So when he moved to Dublin,
                                         
                                        he started going to the Georgia lot
                                         
                                        because he could be himself.
                                         
                                        I used to go with him
                                         
                                        and used to like do pills in MD
                                         
    
                                        and just have a darn good time.
                                         
                                        I want to do pills there.
                                         
                                        Dance the night away.
                                         
                                        Any listeners?
                                         
                                        Private message me and we'll go to the Georgia
                                         
                                        do pills together.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        But like it's just so fun there
                                         
    
                                        because like I went during Ragweek,
                                         
                                        okay?
                                         
                                        It was rag week back in Dundalk
                                         
                                        where I was okay.
                                         
                                        And that's another reason
                                         
                                        why we should let that girl back in the country
                                         
                                        because she's missing out of Rageway and Donnell.
                                         
                                        That's probably she's devastating.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, she's like, come on.
                                         
                                        Oh, here on.
                                         
                                        I want to get back into Brubakers.
                                         
                                        I'm sorry, right?
                                         
                                        Imperialism's grand.
                                         
                                        I don't mind it.
                                         
                                        The oligarchies command.
                                         
                                        Just let me in for a pint.
                                         
    
                                        So, like, I was going out in Dundalk tonight before, and it's just fucking all normal people, okay?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I'm so sick of fucking.
                                         
                                        Turn your stomach.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I know.
                                         
                                        It's just all people, like, and they're all just kind of like, a little bit back.
                                         
                                        No, no on against it.
                                         
    
                                        They're all a little bit backwards.
                                         
                                        And also, they all know I'm a comedian now.
                                         
                                        So all trying to tell me jokes.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And the joke is, Joe Trottererer is,
                                         
                                        here, here, Brian, what'd you call it, China man?
                                         
                                        Shouldn't you just be teaching the class, sir?
                                         
                                        I mean, I won't say what he calls them,
                                         
    
                                        are you thinking guess?
                                         
                                        So, like, it's that level, it's like, you know,
                                         
                                        just a lot, just like, people, it's hard to talk there,
                                         
                                        just not on my level, and then I go to George,
                                         
                                        and just feel so open and comfortable.
                                         
                                        I wish I was fully gay, just to enjoy the,
                                         
                                        that's why I probably going to take some pills there
                                         
                                        to help me, to help me in my journey.
                                         
    
                                        Just go for it.
                                         
                                        I'm actually gay, thank you.
                                         
                                        very much and if you just
                                         
                                        flank me off with a glove and we'll just call it quits.
                                         
                                        A white glove. A white satin
                                         
                                        globe. I've never been. You guys are
                                         
                                        really selling it. Oh, it's good fun.
                                         
                                        Yeah, like we should do like a sequel episode
                                         
    
                                        where we all take pills of the George.
                                         
                                        Live from the George.
                                         
                                        Well, importantly, like it's a fucking
                                         
                                        like a war correspondence.
                                         
                                        There's anarchy anywhere.
                                         
                                        The glitter has just exploded.
                                         
                                        I'm not sure if you can see that. It's bloody
                                         
                                        everywhere all over my clothes.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, dear Lord. The humanity.
                                         
                                        And, oh, my days.
                                         
                                        Back to you, Walter.
                                         
                                        Absolutely.
                                         
                                        It's disgraceful behavior.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So the George, yeah, good fun.
                                         
    
                                        That's fun.
                                         
                                        We've organized that now.
                                         
                                        Big night out of the George.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So, yeah, I'm just saying, like, I understand Rupal's drag race now.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        I've never seen that either.
                                         
                                        I've never actually watched an episode either.
                                         
    
                                        Don't bother.
                                         
                                        I tried to write a joke about it, but it just never got a good reception, so I just kind of let it die.
                                         
                                        Well, some people love it so much.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I always, like,
                                         
                                        they're doing nothing like that
                                         
                                        but then uh now i see it like
                                         
                                        it's like they're getting joy out of it and just because i don't
                                         
    
                                        understand it was their drag show going on
                                         
                                        yeah yeah that's what i mean it's good yeah and it's
                                         
                                        it's all shapes inside so it's like flab
                                         
                                        going all over the place and like you know and it's fucking
                                         
                                        class and they're not trying that something they're even trying
                                         
                                        to look good no some really she's like just pulling
                                         
                                        their underwear up and it's like you just see
                                         
                                        fucking whatever you want to see like
                                         
    
                                        a bit of fucking you know stretch mark you know like that
                                         
                                        Kendrick Lamar song show me those stretch marks bitch
                                         
                                        that's what I think you need to see it live
                                         
                                        to get the full stretch mark
                                         
                                        vibe out of it
                                         
                                        which I like I like that
                                         
                                        it's almost a bit too pretty
                                         
                                        on Rupol's drag race
                                         
    
                                        bit too unreal
                                         
                                        like some of them look like
                                         
                                        anime characters
                                         
                                        yeah they're very heavy
                                         
                                        with the makeup
                                         
                                        and a lot of colours
                                         
                                        and again if they want to do that
                                         
                                        yeah of course it's fine
                                         
    
                                        it's just like
                                         
                                        it's not my thing
                                         
                                        I thought a dumb joke
                                         
                                        uh
                                         
                                        Rupol's Formula 1 drag race
                                         
                                        I'm not going to do anything with
                                         
                                        oh well
                                         
                                        just saying
                                         
    
                                        I'm just going to go see that
                                         
                                        walk off
                                         
                                        here guys
                                         
                                        and I was like
                                         
                                        guys
                                         
                                        Formula one
                                         
                                        Have you ever crossed dressed?
                                         
                                        Please take me away like Lenny Bruce
                                         
    
                                        You've got to cross-suck-ha
                                         
                                        Have you ever cross-dressed?
                                         
                                        What have it done now?
                                         
                                        On Halloween I dressed like a woman
                                         
                                        But that wasn't like proper
                                         
                                        I wish I hadn't gone full lipstick
                                         
                                        And all that I would like to
                                         
                                        I've worn women's underwear a lot
                                         
    
                                        I've worn women's like what do you call them
                                         
                                        Garters or the clips
                                         
                                        Oh really?
                                         
                                        Yeah I've worn them and strutted around
                                         
                                        the Crown Plaza
                                         
                                        I've found a few different things
                                         
                                        like I've never gone to
                                         
                                        the full like you know
                                         
    
                                        I would like to do it once
                                         
                                        just proper like
                                         
                                        what's the non-offensive word
                                         
                                        drag drag
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        yeah yeah I want to go with that
                                         
                                        yeah yeah I want to go full
                                         
                                        glitter tart like
                                         
    
                                        glitter tart
                                         
                                        yeah just like just like
                                         
                                        just like this proper
                                         
                                        you know in RuPaul's drag place
                                         
                                        the term called
                                         
                                        cunts where it's like
                                         
                                        confidence
                                         
                                        understanding
                                         
    
                                        cunts
                                         
                                        nutrition
                                         
                                        and togetherness
                                         
                                        or something like that.
                                         
                                        So it sounds like they were really struggling
                                         
                                        just to get any words.
                                         
                                        It's like car, umbrella, Niagara Falls.
                                         
                                        Oh wait, that's two words, never mind.
                                         
    
                                        Well, obviously, it's just a play you can say like,
                                         
                                        oh, cunt.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's like a fun thing.
                                         
                                        And then, you know, that's like,
                                         
                                        that's what I want.
                                         
                                        Just to be able to say cunt freely.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        I cross-dress once.
                                         
    
                                        I went to the gale talk when I was like 15.
                                         
                                        I had a cross-dressing Kaley,
                                         
                                        which was something that was very of its time.
                                         
                                        I'm not sure you'd get away with a
                                         
                                        cross dressing came
                                         
                                        That's what they called it
                                         
                                        I'm surprised that we don't talk
                                         
                                        We're okay with that
                                         
    
                                        Yeah yeah
                                         
                                        It's surprisingly
                                         
                                        Progressive for the gay
                                         
                                        Actually yeah it was
                                         
                                        Yeah so I'd dress up like a woman
                                         
                                        Not a particularly attractive woman
                                         
                                        But a woman nonetheless
                                         
                                        And yeah it was fine
                                         
    
                                        It was just okay
                                         
                                        Not really I know
                                         
                                        I was a little uncommon
                                         
                                        I refuse to smile
                                         
                                        Because then they win
                                         
                                        I'm not happy about this
                                         
                                        But I'm doing this
                                         
                                        Because I love the Irish language
                                         
    
                                        we need to save it
                                         
                                        they have like an interview
                                         
                                        with me on TG Carr dressed as a woman
                                         
                                        Gunas a Tartu
                                         
                                        it's August transgender
                                         
                                        What's a madra couple
                                         
                                        I don't know any Irish
                                         
                                        What's that dog horse
                                         
    
                                        Dog horse?
                                         
                                        Dog horse, I think that's what you say
                                         
                                        I sometimes say
                                         
                                        Madra couple
                                         
                                        When I'm with people who speak Irish
                                         
                                        Just so I am
                                         
                                        I can never think of Irish
                                         
                                        Like if somebody says
                                         
    
                                        speak in Irish I can't do it
                                         
                                        but if somebody's
                                         
                                        I could understand those words that you just said
                                         
                                        you know what I'm just I'm still
                                         
                                        I'm saying the stuff I learned in primary school
                                         
                                        yeah I'm not using it into any kind of language
                                         
                                        I can remember all the rules like
                                         
                                        like shavu and uru and stuff
                                         
    
                                        oh you're no that's wet I know what to
                                         
                                        that sounds like French
                                         
                                        I wasn't taught Irish
                                         
                                        in secondary because I was dyslexic so we were
                                         
                                        I was put with this such a weird system they have
                                         
                                        I don't know if it's still like this so you're just put in a shed
                                         
                                        dyslexic kids basically
                                         
                                        yeah the dyslexic kids are putting a separate
                                         
    
                                        room in case we infect the other one.
                                         
                                        We don't know how it's
                                         
                                        we can't take the trash.
                                         
                                        It's like that film contagious.
                                         
                                        You just come in in a hazmat
                                         
                                        We're going to kill patient zero.
                                         
                                        So like they put
                                         
                                        us, all right, with like
                                         
    
                                        the severely autistic children
                                         
                                        and then the kids who were getting fights all the time.
                                         
                                        That's a very volatile mix
                                         
                                        of kids right there. Stick us in the room
                                         
                                        and then like here, look, we're going to go
                                         
                                        learn the language that was stolen
                                         
                                        from us by English.
                                         
                                        You can just, I know, draw on the table or anything.
                                         
    
                                        Just memorize this bus timetable.
                                         
                                        No, I'm one of the dyslexics.
                                         
                                        Oh, sorry.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        I don't know what's trying to write your name.
                                         
                                        So they leave us like that and then fucking hell would kick off.
                                         
                                        Jesus.
                                         
                                        No supervision or?
                                         
    
                                        Oh, one woman doesn't care anymore.
                                         
                                        I study for 30 years and they stick me here with this band of freaks.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah, one woman who just goes out to her car now and again and comes back dizzy.
                                         
                                        She just brings her around.
                                         
                                        rag and a hose. I'll be
                                         
                                        back, baby, a half an hour.
                                         
                                        We'll see. You kids got
                                         
                                        you lean.
                                         
    
                                        I want those eddies.
                                         
                                        So, yeah, do you speak Irish much?
                                         
                                        No, never. You're going to drag?
                                         
                                        Have you gone to an Irish
                                         
                                        Cayley? At the same time, an Irish
                                         
                                        drag night. And no, I've never been to, I've never
                                         
                                        gone drag. Again.
                                         
                                        It's on the bucket list, baby.
                                         
    
                                        Again, like, we go, I'll put you in trying.
                                         
                                        Yeah, we'll take you under our deviant week.
                                         
                                        We will, much like Jackson and Neverland, do you?
                                         
                                        Well, we've got to talk about that because I know literally just last week we said we're not going to talk about Pitos anymore, but literally everybody is going mental.
                                         
                                        Everyone's talking with this.
                                         
                                        It's crazy.
                                         
                                        You guys were trailblazers.
                                         
                                        Well, we were talking about this back in the 90s.
                                         
    
                                        Have you guys seen it then?
                                         
                                        Have you seen leaving everywhere?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I haven't watched the full part of the second.
                                         
                                        Personally, I don't think it needed.
                                         
                                        a full two, like four hours
                                         
                                        you could have done it and like two and a half. I watched three
                                         
                                        hours and I was like I need a break. It's so grim
                                         
    
                                        like the details they go into is just
                                         
                                        so it's really disturbing
                                         
                                        like a genuinely felt sick watching it.
                                         
                                        Jackson's such like a contradiction
                                         
                                        because like I always taught
                                         
                                        because the only way he has really innocent vibe.
                                         
                                        So I always talk he's like a Lenny from
                                         
                                        of mice and men where he doesn't
                                         
    
                                        where he he is to he does the children
                                         
                                        what Lenny does the rabbits.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        Like accidentally.
                                         
                                        No, I just wanted to fuck him George.
                                         
                                        I didn't know what I was doing.
                                         
                                        Like, I just thought you, like, an instant, like,
                                         
                                        yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Guy who's, like, he's just so mentally fucked by his dad.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        He taught, like, he was, like, you know,
                                         
                                        having an actual relationship to these children,
                                         
                                        didn't think anything wrong.
                                         
                                        But watching this, I was surprised by how much of an actual predator he was and how smart.
                                         
                                        Incredibly calculated.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        He actually knew, he knew which kids to go for.
                                         
                                        He knew not to go for Culkin, because Colkin is...
                                         
                                        He's a star, yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        He knew to go for the fucking little Australia.
                                         
                                        What was it?
                                         
                                        It's a...
                                         
                                        Jorriene Robson?
                                         
                                        It's something robson.
                                         
    
                                        Dave Robson.
                                         
                                        Johnny Safefuck?
                                         
                                        What's his name?
                                         
                                        Johnny Safefuck.
                                         
                                        That's what he changed his name to when he started.
                                         
                                        James Safechuk.
                                         
                                        Yeah, Safechuck.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, it makes more sense.
                                         
                                        Well, if the name like that, you really are asking for it, aren't you?
                                         
                                        Safe fuck.
                                         
                                        That was Jackson.
                                         
                                        Oh, Safe fuck.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        But, like, so now it's like, it's really, really is kind of like,
                                         
                                        it's just, after watching that four hours, I'm starting to say.
                                         
    
                                        suspect he might be a kind of
                                         
                                        Is there something just not right
                                         
                                        about this guy? I don't know what
                                         
                                        it is. Really, like, even at best
                                         
                                        he was just a freaky weird old.
                                         
                                        You should not be having kids
                                         
                                        in your bed. Yes, that is just
                                         
                                        false stuff. It's amazing how normal the defense
                                         
    
                                        makes it sound when it's already
                                         
                                        admitting that happened. Like, oh no, you just
                                         
                                        never sleeping the same bed. The parents,
                                         
                                        the parents were like, well, I'll
                                         
                                        let wide, uh, sleip in the bed with him.
                                         
                                        I didn't think anything was your own
                                         
                                        shoulder. There was a padlock on the door and
                                         
                                        their incredible loud, dance music
                                         
    
                                        and they're screaming sometime.
                                         
                                        Oh, I just thought they were having fun.
                                         
                                        Oh, didn't want me, dropped.
                                         
                                        He was having the time of his life.
                                         
                                        She is a con.
                                         
                                        She is a con.
                                         
                                        I'll actually defend her.
                                         
                                        Oh, well, I agree.
                                         
    
                                        I think, it's hard for us to think
                                         
                                        because we, like, I only know Jackson
                                         
                                        as a pedophile as from the jokes.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        I distinctly members of kids
                                         
                                        have seen a picture of him being scared.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Because he was not a healthy-looking man.
                                         
    
                                        No, he looks like a cool.
                                         
                                        Yeah, okay.
                                         
                                        like a proper i remember taking my ask my mother if that's real and she was like i don't know
                                         
                                        but yeah so like i but like to people back then he was the closest thing like an angel yeah okay
                                         
                                        he was like what the catholics hold the pope all right he was what his fans like i just
                                         
                                        yeah everyone thinks it's great we everybody left their kids with like priests and shit okay yeah
                                         
                                        that's a fair point you're right but that's not right either on the parents that did that are
                                         
                                        fucking shocked there's a void where he wants with just a flick of his finger he can change your
                                         
    
                                        like here do you want 20 million dollars that's the thing though she was seduced by the whole
                                         
                                        hollywood lifestyle and she just had this cognitive dissonance as like i think that would be fair like
                                         
                                        they were like he was in their house every day for like two years okay yeah talking on the phone
                                         
                                        and it's like yeah yeah he just again incredibly calculated yeah yeah yeah he was also struck me as
                                         
                                        like how just like he really was just a little fucking selfish little kid really yeah of the mental
                                         
                                        totality of like that was like I always get
                                         
                                        what I want. That's like he said to the mother
                                         
                                        one stage when she wouldn't like let him like take
                                         
    
                                        the kid for like a tour or something like that. Yeah
                                         
                                        yeah. And like, ugh, it's
                                         
                                        just not a fun document. I mean, it's
                                         
                                        really not fun. The other bit that really got me
                                         
                                        all right is there's a one
                                         
                                        little clip of it where to show
                                         
                                        Raphael from a teenage meeting to turtles
                                         
                                        okay. You know, they show a tie
                                         
    
                                        of him and someone's put the hat
                                         
                                        over his face as if like to cover
                                         
                                        his eyes. Oh my God.
                                         
                                        And that really struck me like
                                         
                                        oh, that's...
                                         
                                        Oh, Raphael could still hear it, though.
                                         
                                        Oh, God.
                                         
                                        Like, it's so fucked up.
                                         
    
                                        Do you guys,
                                         
                                        you guys may be too young to remember,
                                         
                                        but in 2003, a documentary came out
                                         
                                        called Living with Michael Jackson.
                                         
                                        Do you guys remember then?
                                         
                                        Now, that one, I mean,
                                         
                                        there were serious alarm bells from that one.
                                         
                                        Like, he spoke openly
                                         
    
                                        about letting children sleep in his bed.
                                         
                                        Like, this is him,
                                         
                                        Michael himself, talking about it,
                                         
                                        and defending it.
                                         
                                        And he had, like,
                                         
                                        he completely denied that he ever had any plastic surgery
                                         
                                        on his face,
                                         
                                        which is absurd
                                         
    
                                        like look at them
                                         
                                        you cannot deny
                                         
                                        but he was like
                                         
                                        no he just was adamant
                                         
                                        he just had a total disconnect
                                         
                                        from reality
                                         
                                        in regards to like
                                         
                                        every aspect of his life
                                         
    
                                        and I would advise
                                         
                                        if you find Levin
                                         
                                        leaving Neverland
                                         
                                        be interested
                                         
                                        and go back and watch
                                         
                                        living with Michael Jackson
                                         
                                        because you're getting it straight
                                         
                                        from the
                                         
    
                                        I probably will watch that
                                         
                                        I need a
                                         
                                        I'm trying to sell it
                                         
                                        that's it
                                         
                                        I need a little bit of a break
                                         
                                        for Michael Jackson though
                                         
                                        but like I will get to it
                                         
                                        sometimes
                                         
    
                                        it's just too
                                         
                                        you need a bit
                                         
                                        This nor Kelly, I need a little break from pedophilia.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But like, oh my God.
                                         
                                        And now, it's interesting how the Jackson Estate are reacting to this.
                                         
                                        So the way, they've been tweeting nonstop, just like nice pictures of Michael, you know, dancing, smiling.
                                         
                                        Remember the moonwalk kids?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, things like that.
                                         
                                        And what they, their idea of counteracting the first part of documentary was they released on the Jackson official website,
                                         
                                        an unreleased footage from a concert that was the same length as the first part of the documentary.
                                         
                                        so in their head they're like
                                         
                                        that was their defense
                                         
                                        in their head people like
                                         
                                        people will be watching that dog
                                         
                                        commit to be like
                                         
    
                                        oh that is pretty bad
                                         
                                        oh he's moon walking
                                         
                                        smooth pedophiles
                                         
                                        I'm bad
                                         
                                        I'm bad you know it
                                         
                                        so it is like
                                         
                                        is reputation tarnished forever
                                         
                                        well it seems like a lot of like
                                         
    
                                        radio stations are saying
                                         
                                        we'll never play any Michael Jackson again
                                         
                                        I think it's definitely heard him
                                         
                                        like there is an impact
                                         
                                        like how long will it last I don't know
                                         
                                        Well, that system is being fucking, like, all those guys who want to say,
                                         
                                        we're now, we're no longer playing the music.
                                         
                                        Like, yeah, well, like, you knew beforehand.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, you're definitely.
                                         
                                        Now it's unpopular.
                                         
                                        And I guarantee in a few years to start playing him again.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        If you, like, band every musician who was a rapist or pedophile,
                                         
                                        there'd be nothing.
                                         
                                        It would literally just be the crazy frog.
                                         
                                        And maybe the gorillas, because they're not real.
                                         
    
                                        No, no.
                                         
                                        And that's, as opposed to frog, didn't he take his dick out?
                                         
                                        Yeah, he did.
                                         
                                        It's right.
                                         
                                        He always said his dick out.
                                         
                                        They've blurred it out.
                                         
                                        Much like Louis C.K.
                                         
                                        Louis C.K.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Well, one other thing, though,
                                         
                                        they're actually doing a musical
                                         
                                        on Michael Jackson musical next year,
                                         
                                        and that's why the estate
                                         
                                        are really worried about this documentary.
                                         
                                        It's called Michael Jackson can't get enough.
                                         
                                        Oh, God.
                                         
    
                                        It's a poor.
                                         
                                        All of his, like, music, like, the song titles
                                         
                                        are just, are just too easy to, like,
                                         
                                        bad, dangerous,
                                         
                                        smooth, criminal.
                                         
                                        There's going to be a terrible parody songs
                                         
                                        in the comedy world in the next couple of months.
                                         
                                        I'm working on them already
                                         
    
                                        Smooth pedophile
                                         
                                        That was me working out
                                         
                                        We're just in the studio
                                         
                                        Smooth pedophile
                                         
                                        But that's the only difference I make
                                         
                                        And what's funny about
                                         
                                        You know the full three and a half
                                         
                                        Yeah that's a great thing with Charlie songs
                                         
    
                                        Is when you know like
                                         
                                        What the change is in the first few seconds
                                         
                                        And then the rest song
                                         
                                        You're sitting there like oh yeah
                                         
                                        Enjoying the song
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Cool
                                         
    
                                        Like a modern day weird owl
                                         
                                        Who you know
                                         
                                        Is he still around
                                         
                                        He's still relevant
                                         
                                        He is yeah
                                         
                                        He won't do fat anymore
                                         
                                        I guarantee you
                                         
                                        Is that right
                                         
    
                                        Was fat?
                                         
                                        Oh, I, Edit.
                                         
                                        Eat it.
                                         
                                        No, you're fat as well.
                                         
                                        Oh, okay.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        No, I was never a big weird old guy now, to be honest.
                                         
                                        Oh, well.
                                         
    
                                        I'm missing out.
                                         
                                        You were more of a Jackson guy.
                                         
                                        Enough for his music.
                                         
                                        Interestingly enough, I didn't like his music until I saw the documentary, but it's grown on me.
                                         
                                        Very catchy.
                                         
                                        I felt really guilty, because honestly, smooth criminal was stuck in my head for, like, the entire
                                         
                                        rest of the day.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, damn good music.
                                         
                                        You can't, yeah.
                                         
                                        Oh, I could moonwalk.
                                         
                                        I'm just saying, he's not that special.
                                         
                                        Can you move on?
                                         
                                        like he's a proper fucking god.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And there's so many,
                                         
    
                                        it's interested
                                         
                                        to the fans are so like,
                                         
                                        you know,
                                         
                                        strike me dead if Michael's a liar.
                                         
                                        He'd never,
                                         
                                        he was an innocent child.
                                         
                                        She was in a world
                                         
                                        did not understand him.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Why did they care so?
                                         
                                        Did you get to the bit
                                         
                                        in the documentary
                                         
                                        where there's like that,
                                         
                                        that, like fat,
                                         
                                        like that with all of the posters
                                         
                                        in the back,
                                         
    
                                        yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Oh yeah.
                                         
                                        Fuck you.
                                         
                                        And then this case gets thrown out
                                         
                                        and he just has this maniacal app.
                                         
                                        Yeah, really disturbed people.
                                         
                                        But like,
                                         
                                        getting into like the little sort of weird world of fandom you know oh my god especially back then
                                         
    
                                        like it was like fucking princess diana died when he got accused of yeah throngs outside the courtroom
                                         
                                        i remember where i was when jackson died i was smoking a joint really hollywood lay wow
                                         
                                        where were you when jackson died this is a good topic i think i was in i think i was in primary
                                         
                                        school oh fuck you how old are you uh 20 oh for fuck sake i'm gonna i'm gonna get done for having you
                                         
                                        bedroom get out of here you wearing a wire
                                         
                                        it was so weird he wanted to sleep
                                         
                                        we're just friends all right
                                         
                                        he taught me how to masturbate
                                         
    
                                        you're doing it wrong
                                         
                                        Matthew
                                         
                                        and I'm like the mother
                                         
                                        going like I don't see what's wrong
                                         
                                        that'd be great because I'm such a big fan of the podcast
                                         
                                        that the whole thing existed as an elaborate grooming
                                         
                                        process
                                         
                                        well we paid for
                                         
    
                                        we got on iTunes we paid for the sound
                                         
                                        clouting just to get you here
                                         
                                        could just ask you read the podcast
                                         
                                        it was all
                                         
                                        worth it.
                                         
                                        Is there anything you ever wanted to ask us, Matthew,
                                         
                                        from, I'll tell you what, give us a perspective
                                         
                                        of the, of the listener.
                                         
    
                                        When you listen to our podcast, what things
                                         
                                        go through your mind?
                                         
                                        How do we come across?
                                         
                                        You're the voice of the listener.
                                         
                                        This is very madden because I'm going to be listening
                                         
                                        to this later on.
                                         
                                        Well, it'll probably take James for four
                                         
                                        days to put up. Oh, fuck you.
                                         
    
                                        What did you? Edited is that, you lazy con.
                                         
                                        They can. I fucking
                                         
                                        recorded my laptop, my gaff.
                                         
                                        You'll come in with your little notebook.
                                         
                                        Oh, I'm not going to tell you what we're talking about until we're recording.
                                         
                                        A little fucking apple polishing, son of a bitch.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I feel like...
                                         
                                        You'll fuck yourself.
                                         
    
                                        Fuck you.
                                         
                                        I was told not to prepare anything.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Every week, he comes in with notes, and he's always like, reads his notes.
                                         
                                        And he's like, giving me shit.
                                         
                                        Sorry to do my sort of preparing, like.
                                         
                                        I prepare if you let me.
                                         
                                        But you won't.
                                         
    
                                        It's a big power move.
                                         
                                        We're moving on.
                                         
                                        I started listening to the podcast, my...
                                         
                                        that I was in Chicago for like a month
                                         
                                        and a bit and I was staying in this shitty
                                         
                                        like run down like frat house
                                         
                                        okay it was kind of miserable so I started
                                         
                                        listening to the podcast
                                         
    
                                        Frat house? Yeah I was living in a
                                         
                                        fraternity house oh what
                                         
                                        because I didn't realize
                                         
                                        I bet there's a lot of bad vibes in there
                                         
                                        yeah it was it was a little bit all
                                         
                                        because they were literally like above me and they
                                         
                                        like parties every night or all these like
                                         
                                        drunk freshman
                                         
    
                                        oh I'd love to be there
                                         
                                        Jesus I think they really like my style
                                         
                                        I think they they like
                                         
                                        They liked me and everything
                                         
                                        But every one of them
                                         
                                        I was like
                                         
                                        Oh shit
                                         
                                        Is this guy like a molester or something
                                         
    
                                        It was very like
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Because that's like the vision of them
                                         
                                        I think you like my style
                                         
                                        To reiterate
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        But no yeah
                                         
                                        I got kind of
                                         
    
                                        I was hooked
                                         
                                        It was like
                                         
                                        When you did that episode
                                         
                                        Where
                                         
                                        Where you guys talked about
                                         
                                        You
                                         
                                        This is weird
                                         
                                        But when you talked about
                                         
    
                                        Sucking off that guy
                                         
                                        For money
                                         
                                        I was like
                                         
                                        This is a great
                                         
                                        No, wait a minute.
                                         
                                        Defamation!
                                         
                                        I don't, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, I'll sue you.
                                         
                                        I did not suck him off.
                                         
    
                                        He just slated me a bit.
                                         
                                        Oh, okay.
                                         
                                        I didn't suck him off, like,
                                         
                                        yeah, I feel like that's the Maron, C.K.
                                         
                                        I could barely even get hard to put it in his ass because, uh, I just, I'm just not
                                         
                                        in the right news.
                                         
                                        Because you're a real man, that's why.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Well, I think it's important to, like, see how far you can push your sexuality.
                                         
                                        Of course.
                                         
                                        No, yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, so, like, me trying to put, and he's, he's kind of dirty, he wasn't even proper white.
                                         
                                        Dirty asshole?
                                         
                                        He did, yeah.
                                         
                                        It just fits of shit in his hair in the...
                                         
                                        Dingleberries.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, and I used to try and put my soft cock in it.
                                         
                                        And it didn't really work, like.
                                         
                                        But at least, you know, it swings around about.
                                         
                                        At least Matthew heard it, like, years later.
                                         
                                        It honestly made for a great episode of podcast.
                                         
                                        I'm glad.
                                         
                                        I'm glad.
                                         
                                        Some hot bits.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Ooh, hot bit.
                                         
                                        Yeah, we'll like release Too Hot for GV.
                                         
                                        Ryan and James fuck each other.
                                         
                                        Ooh.
                                         
                                        I don't know why they're
                                         
                                        Where that would come for
                                         
                                        That's my seven
                                         
    
                                        It's such a niche
                                         
                                        Um
                                         
                                        El Diablo
                                         
                                        So yeah
                                         
                                        We got you hooked in
                                         
                                        All right
                                         
                                        And you've listened since
                                         
                                        Have you spread the word
                                         
    
                                        I got my brother
                                         
                                        To listen to it
                                         
                                        Because when you guys told me
                                         
                                        That was the only person
                                         
                                        Who told you anything good
                                         
                                        I started to think I was crazy
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        And like
                                         
    
                                        They're talking to me
                                         
                                        Through the podcast
                                         
                                        The government
                                         
                                        You give you to your brother
                                         
                                        You're like
                                         
                                        There's no
                                         
                                        That means
                                         
                                        I thought it was going to be like a beautiful mind
                                         
    
                                        and talking and have all these
                                         
                                        these Brian and James murals in my room
                                         
                                        There is no Brian
                                         
                                        But he said that he really liked it as well
                                         
                                        Oh good
                                         
                                        Your brother likes it as well
                                         
                                        Connor yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah we're a family plot
                                         
    
                                        Just goes to show how disturbed all of our families are
                                         
                                        Yeah my mom was asking to listen to this
                                         
                                        And I think
                                         
                                        Oh God
                                         
                                        Oh God
                                         
                                        If my mother ever listened to this
                                         
                                        She would beat me silly
                                         
                                        And she could do it
                                         
    
                                        She's only on twice her size
                                         
                                        She'd still batter me
                                         
                                        She'd go for the eyes.
                                         
                                        Oh, she was.
                                         
                                        Like a fucking chimp.
                                         
                                        The shims.
                                         
                                        The eyes and the balls.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Rup your face off.
                                         
                                        I don't ever want my mother to hear any of this.
                                         
                                        Then you'd be on Oprah.
                                         
                                        What are we talking about?
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        Has your home seen your act?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        No, she came once, and I bombed terrifically,
                                         
    
                                        and that was the only time she ever came to see me.
                                         
                                        Like, I didn't even kind of know she was coming.
                                         
                                        My, like, it was in Monaghan and some relatives dragged her along.
                                         
                                        Horrible experience.
                                         
                                        I never want to replicate it.
                                         
                                        It was for Charlie for Down syndrome.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I got paid
                                         
    
                                        He didn't
                                         
                                        This might be like a shitty thing to say
                                         
                                        But I'm not sure if you can
                                         
                                        If comedy is the right thing to do a charity gig
                                         
                                        Definitely not
                                         
                                        It depends on the charity
                                         
                                        And it depends on the charity and it depends on the type of comedy
                                         
                                        Featured on the night
                                         
    
                                        And my comedy definitely does not go well
                                         
                                        With charity
                                         
                                        If the audience should
                                         
                                        I don't know
                                         
                                        But it was all old people
                                         
                                        You were there
                                         
                                        I got I tried my fucking best
                                         
                                        You actually did pretty good
                                         
    
                                        I got a lot of ooze, though.
                                         
                                        I got silence the whole time.
                                         
                                        By respected you more afterwards.
                                         
                                        It's like that real comic.
                                         
                                        That's a real comic right there.
                                         
                                        I don't think my mother would appreciate some of my jokes,
                                         
                                        especially a specific one.
                                         
                                        I'm sure you all know which one I'm being.
                                         
    
                                        Which I know what you're talking about, that joke,
                                         
                                        which I got positive feedback about that joke.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I have as well, actually.
                                         
                                        That's the main joke that people are like.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        It's like right at the beginning as well.
                                         
                                        you do something come right at the gate
                                         
                                        that's good to start off like that start your strongest
                                         
    
                                        bit yeah yeah I'm sure somewhere
                                         
                                        there's a table of higher-ups
                                         
                                        talking about you oh really oh
                                         
                                        I certainly hope so there's a lot of heat around
                                         
                                        around James oh
                                         
                                        guys come on now stuff that's two
                                         
                                        you're too kind of build them up
                                         
                                        and break them down I have no idea
                                         
    
                                        how to capitalize it I'm such kind of a
                                         
                                        I'm very like naive about the
                                         
                                        industry and how it works I mean
                                         
                                        I kind of because I won that next top comic thing
                                         
                                        I was even saying to Matthew before
                                         
                                        we were recording. I don't know how
                                         
                                        how do I like phrase it to clubs
                                         
                                        without sounding like a douche. Don't worry
                                         
    
                                        about something. Hello, this is James
                                         
                                        Cadden Dublin's next top comic
                                         
                                        and demand a spot. Yeah, do it, yeah.
                                         
                                        Really? Just send him a picture your trophy
                                         
                                        and then April 15th question.
                                         
                                        And a gun. Yeah, so...
                                         
                                        And your dick.
                                         
                                        Really just confused. The trifecta.
                                         
    
                                        The idea of
                                         
                                        I won't say names.
                                         
                                        The idea of a certain
                                         
                                        promoter in Dublin getting those three
                                         
                                        message, you're going, what the fuck?
                                         
                                        Hey!
                                         
                                        Oh, this is the guy.
                                         
                                        This is the guy.
                                         
    
                                        He wants a spot.
                                         
                                        Get all the spots he wants.
                                         
                                        I love it.
                                         
                                        I love it.
                                         
                                        What about you?
                                         
                                        Have either of your guys' mother's senior act?
                                         
                                        My dad saw me like a gimmick-y, I shouldn't say, but a gimmick show in Chicago where the gimmick was that, like,
                                         
                                        if people can throw tomatoes at you, if they don't like.
                                         
    
                                        your jokes. Are you serious? John's plan told me about this.
                                         
                                        Yeah, John's plan apparently did it and came up and was like, I'm allergic to tomatoes.
                                         
                                        And everyone just started counting him. Nice. But yeah, that was horrible. It's because he was visiting
                                         
                                        me for like three days and I had that book. So I was like, I can't just abandon it. But it was,
                                         
                                        it was painful. They did not like me. Did you get a lot of tomatoes? Yeah, because my bits sometimes
                                         
                                        they hate like five seconds
                                         
                                        and not knowing what's going on
                                         
                                        so I went up and started doing my fucking
                                         
    
                                        impressions of the wind and shit
                                         
                                        and just CEO
                                         
                                        they were not up for that
                                         
                                        that's a really
                                         
                                        it sounds like a lot of fun though
                                         
                                        it was really fun the second time I did it
                                         
                                        when you like know that to be playful
                                         
                                        with the vibe and not just do your act
                                         
    
                                        yeah yeah I suppose it really sticks out
                                         
                                        in short time of school and immediately do your act like
                                         
                                        and I acknowledge the fact
                                         
                                        that they're all holding to be able
                                         
                                        It's just like don't address it at all.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's kind of pathetic because you just start delivering them worse
                                         
                                        and everything because you get, your timing is interrupted by tomatoes in the face.
                                         
                                        What about you, Brian?
                                         
    
                                        Any, uh, your mom ever come to your gigs?
                                         
                                        No, my parents think I'm dead.
                                         
                                        Well, they'd like to believe that.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        You were talking about using the award to help your career.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        Which I think you need to get rid of the whole idea of like looking like a dude.
                                         
                                        She's got to push your weight around.
                                         
    
                                        I thought you were going to say, get rid of the idea of having a career.
                                         
                                        It'll never happen.
                                         
                                        Well, I remember actually, this is a new thing.
                                         
                                        story from last week.
                                         
                                        I don't know if you heard about this.
                                         
                                        There was some comedy reviewer
                                         
                                        in England and he got caught
                                         
                                        sending messages, inappropriate messages
                                         
    
                                        of comics going like, hey, I'll give you an extra star
                                         
                                        if you send me a dick pick.
                                         
                                        Are you serious?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        It just goes to show like
                                         
                                        how hard it is for women
                                         
                                        in the comedy scene.
                                         
    
                                        Oh my God.
                                         
                                        They don't have a dick.
                                         
                                        No, that again.
                                         
                                        What can they do?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Click pick?
                                         
                                        Is that a thing?
                                         
                                        No, no.
                                         
    
                                        No, no, he wouldn't accept that.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        It's funny.
                                         
                                        I thought it funny if, like,
                                         
                                        far two picks a live.
                                         
                                        I thought it's funny if, like,
                                         
                                        he would review me
                                         
                                        and I sent him a dickpick
                                         
    
                                        and actually lost his star
                                         
                                        So anything else
                                         
                                        We should ask Matthew while he's here
                                         
                                        Oh yeah
                                         
                                        We should actually ask you more questions
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah
                                         
                                        I'm expecting an interview
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah
                                         
    
                                        We'll do another one else
                                         
                                        Top of fucking Michael Jackson
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah
                                         
                                        Fuck him
                                         
                                        King of Pop
                                         
                                        I'm the fucking king of the Dublin
                                         
                                        Under 21's comedy
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah I would say that
                                         
    
                                        I don't know
                                         
                                        No no
                                         
                                        Ashmore
                                         
                                        I laugh at Ashmore
                                         
                                        Aschmore's rubbing your balls in your face.
                                         
                                        It's like all that even shit.
                                         
                                        It's taken over to the world.
                                         
                                        Now I'm out in the cold.
                                         
    
                                        The industry doesn't care about me anymore.
                                         
                                        You're going to become bitter.
                                         
                                        I'm far more bitter than I should be for my age.
                                         
                                        I feel like I've lost my shot already.
                                         
                                        You've become openly and bitter.
                                         
                                        We end up recording the podcast with us.
                                         
                                        Yes, this is the final nail.
                                         
                                        Well, I'm hoping, though, that having you on
                                         
    
                                        will give us a bit of fucking leverage now.
                                         
                                        Maybe people listen to it.
                                         
                                        You guys, you picked the word.
                                         
                                        You guys really should have picked a guest that has fans and friends.
                                         
                                        friends. Like, you're going to get six extra listeners.
                                         
                                        Well, this is, this is a tester one. Then we'll get someone cool, like Jesse James.
                                         
                                        You don't have a six pack.
                                         
                                        I'm not from Canada.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        So, uh, yesterday was International Women's Day.
                                         
                                        Yeah, what did you do for that?
                                         
                                        Uh, I was on a comedy gold in the...
                                         
                                        Oh, what was that? I actually, like, this sounds dumb now.
                                         
                                        When did International Women's Day become a thing, like?
                                         
                                        Because obviously wasn't around, like, when Jesus was born?
                                         
                                        Probably not.
                                         
    
                                        No.
                                         
                                        Probably not.
                                         
                                        When did it? I could just Google.
                                         
                                        I don't want to Google, actually.
                                         
                                        Oh, look it up.
                                         
                                        Yeah, well, look it.
                                         
                                        took it up but what do you do on here for comedy gold uh i don't think that it wasn't like a special
                                         
                                        international women's day comedy gold thing just a regular something like uh there was like yeah
                                         
    
                                        it was like a mixed lineup yeah but uh that's a nice room i would say that's probably comedy
                                         
                                        gold is probably like um the closest to sort of like an alt club that we have if you know what i mean
                                         
                                        yeah i mean there's the crash comedy monthly one that's true uh surrealist comedians
                                         
                                        no one wants me to do crash comedy my stuff is a little too surreal oh i mean i
                                         
                                        Also racist.
                                         
                                        We don't like your Biggie Smalls in person.
                                         
                                        What would happen if Biggie Smalls met D.W. Griffith?
                                         
                                        I think it would go with something like this.
                                         
    
                                        I reenact all of Bert of a nation.
                                         
                                        What was the question again?
                                         
                                        There was no question. It was just kind of, you said,
                                         
                                        Crash Comedy.
                                         
                                        But Comedy Gold, I think, is the closest we have to an alt-room.
                                         
                                        Yeah, definitely.
                                         
                                        But I definitely, I see that becoming, I see more clubs like that emerging.
                                         
                                        There's definitely, would you consider yourself an alt comic?
                                         
    
                                        I like a, I try to be alt and sometimes, yeah, I think I try to be alt.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Consciously?
                                         
                                        No, I think I, alt is like a weird label.
                                         
                                        I'm not even sure what it means anymore.
                                         
                                        I try to be original, I guess.
                                         
                                        Well, I would definitely say you're very original.
                                         
                                        Alt is negative connotations now where like, uh, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Now when you say alt comic, it means like he's a tiki torch and he, uh...
                                         
                                        Well, yeah, the thing is, this is what I thought.
                                         
                                        myself as like an old comedian for ages because the
                                         
                                        alt comedy in Ireland is
                                         
                                        really good like universally. Like
                                         
                                        most of the bad comedians are kind of
                                         
                                        traditional whereas like
                                         
                                        I went over to America and saw like
                                         
    
                                        shitty alt for the first time where it's just like
                                         
                                        ukulele and this is a
                                         
                                        art of art act
                                         
                                        let's pick up a phrase now. But like
                                         
                                        alt now you know Sharad'sville
                                         
                                        that woman died
                                         
                                        those weren't old comedians
                                         
                                        those are alt right
                                         
    
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        yeah so I think
                                         
                                        it's important for guys like you to take back
                                         
                                        much like black people talk the N-word
                                         
                                        you take back the word
                                         
                                        and stand up for it and say like you
                                         
                                        you fucking you don't kill people with your car
                                         
                                        as you neo-Nazis
                                         
    
                                        I'm an all comedian
                                         
                                        I would just like to say it
                                         
                                        because we haven't said it yet and I think
                                         
                                        because it goes without saying
                                         
                                        but we'll just put it out there
                                         
                                        and we're both very big fans of your comedy
                                         
                                        very big fans yeah
                                         
                                        oh wow definitely yeah I mentioned you to people
                                         
    
                                        yeah yeah really
                                         
                                        And they say, who are you?
                                         
                                        I say, you shut up, you.
                                         
                                        Matthew Tallinn is an old comedian.
                                         
                                        And you stop killing people with your car.
                                         
                                        I'm going to write now, like, an interpretive prop bit.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        I'm going to have a lot toy car.
                                         
    
                                        You're like a 21st, you were like a 21st century, John Spelan.
                                         
                                        No one get that, but I like it.
                                         
                                        That's good.
                                         
                                        That's cool, though, because I, Brian was one of the first.
                                         
                                        people I saw who I was like
                                         
                                        holy shit what the fuck is this
                                         
                                        yeah yeah and then I saw you later
                                         
                                        and really loved
                                         
    
                                        I saw you and also like you
                                         
                                        I saw Brian's at holy shit
                                         
                                        I saw James like
                                         
                                        yeah he's trying
                                         
                                        good for him
                                         
                                        he's trying good for him constructed
                                         
                                        bits
                                         
                                        thank you
                                         
    
                                        thank you back dude
                                         
                                        no but only would you consider yourself
                                         
                                        all front you have like
                                         
                                        I don't mean to all
                                         
                                        but that's not like the character
                                         
                                        that's me
                                         
                                        people see I like the character you create
                                         
                                        I'm trying to be
                                         
    
                                        as mainstream as possible
                                         
                                        this is just how I am
                                         
                                        I wonder what it would look like
                                         
                                        if you deviated from that
                                         
                                        if you try to
                                         
                                        okay let's just push the envelope
                                         
                                        see how out there
                                         
                                        I'm not jama
                                         
    
                                        I'm not bragging but if I
                                         
                                        try to go out
                                         
                                        I could probably start a civil war in this country
                                         
                                        I'm just saying
                                         
                                        certain groups would get royaled up
                                         
                                        yeah oh god i'd love to see it yeah i guess i suppose consider myself then traditional because it is
                                         
                                        very i'm not old one thing i'm always afraid of the jokes i tend to write and tell are i guess
                                         
                                        on the edgier or dark side and i'm just really afraid that i'm coming across is trying to be
                                         
    
                                        like oh that's right i'll say anything i'm outrageous well it's like what i was saying about like
                                         
                                        all pack where like your stuff is there's a lot of comedians coming out now doing like hacky dark edgy stuff
                                         
                                        that makes it bad when you have like smartly written
                                         
                                        like funny energy jokes
                                         
                                        but people just think of that sort of
                                         
                                        yeah the band's and then I raped a baby
                                         
                                        wait that's great I need to write that
                                         
                                        that's like always the thing
                                         
    
                                        there's something to that love your stuff man
                                         
                                        it's so dark it's like
                                         
                                        well it's also I mean I write it
                                         
                                        well I think though and some people like
                                         
                                        oh fuck I know how dark it is
                                         
                                        but you don't like it for right reason
                                         
                                        yeah some people it's weird
                                         
                                        so you do get those laughs
                                         
    
                                        and just like I think you're just laughing
                                         
                                        because
                                         
                                        like a black person
                                         
                                        died in this joke.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Like, I've heard of her
                                         
                                        comics say, like, if a, someone
                                         
                                        comes up to him, like, oh, that does
                                         
    
                                        really offensive me, yeah.
                                         
                                        You're like, oh, I don't want to care.
                                         
                                        Well, if someone goes up to, like, I fucking love
                                         
                                        it when you talked about, don't fucking, you know.
                                         
                                        Yeah, you're right.
                                         
                                        Yeah. Someone's fucking saying.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah. It's like, oh, right, well,
                                         
                                        I don't want to...
                                         
    
                                        You should come to our weekly meeting in the basement.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I don't really like it. It's like fucking black
                                         
                                        clans, man.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's it's, it's...
                                         
                                        That's a big problem with doing it.
                                         
                                        But I consider your stuff to be edgy as well, Brian.
                                         
                                        He has like a smile, I feel like, that passes it off.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I'm actually trying to not smile on stage anymore.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        I'm really changing my set now.
                                         
                                        Oh, I don't think I've seen you recently apart from roasting.
                                         
                                        I'm going in strange new directions.
                                         
                                        One word, no, two words, big hat.
                                         
                                        Big hat.
                                         
    
                                        I'm going to wear a big cowboy hat and I'm going to fire actual guns.
                                         
                                        I've actually, Fred Cook.
                                         
                                        I saw him do a character
                                         
                                        where he had a cowboy hat
                                         
                                        and he was like,
                                         
                                        Yehaw, partner.
                                         
                                        That's not a good representation of it,
                                         
                                        but he's doing some kind of like
                                         
    
                                        cowboy character.
                                         
                                        He opens for himself now.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's funny.
                                         
                                        Actually, the last time I did the intro,
                                         
                                        I went on in between Fred Cook
                                         
                                        and Fred Cook,
                                         
                                        but the character first.
                                         
                                        And so he's very, like,
                                         
    
                                        very sing-songy.
                                         
                                        He just, like, he created a certain...
                                         
                                        You create a certain energy
                                         
                                        when you come out with the guitar.
                                         
                                        It's a big party.
                                         
                                        Then I came out.
                                         
                                        and I had punchlines
                                         
                                        and people were forced to listen
                                         
    
                                        they didn't appreciate it
                                         
                                        I came off the stage
                                         
                                        and then Fred came back out
                                         
                                        to overwhelming applause
                                         
                                        and it just
                                         
                                        it just was the last time I did the intro
                                         
                                        I never do well in the enter
                                         
                                        I don't know what it is
                                         
    
                                        me neither it's a very hard vibe to
                                         
                                        crack yeah yeah I just can't
                                         
                                        I can't mask you know yeah
                                         
                                        I love the inter
                                         
                                        yeah you always do very well in the enter
                                         
                                        I love there's something I like about not having a mic
                                         
                                        and just kind of being pushed out there
                                         
                                        and like what's a hi why you do
                                         
    
                                        and like even if it's kind of dead like it's
                                         
                                        well, like. Something about silence
                                         
                                        in the inter, it's better than anywhere else.
                                         
                                        There's a hum of history.
                                         
                                        Yeah. You can hear the bad things
                                         
                                        that happen.
                                         
                                        Because we know, you, you know yourself.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        A lot of evil there.
                                         
                                        You go to the internet, there's just two twins.
                                         
                                        Forever and ever.
                                         
                                        Just blood everywhere.
                                         
                                        There's an elevator door. There's no elevator in that place.
                                         
                                        Just open, just blood goes anywhere.
                                         
                                        Oh, why is the blood still on the floor?
                                         
                                        I thought the guys was coming to clean it up.
                                         
    
                                        What's going on here?
                                         
                                        This is bullshit.
                                         
                                        Hey, come on.
                                         
                                        This is crazy.
                                         
                                        These fucking twins ask me for a fucking spot all the time.
                                         
                                        Hey. I didn't need you a fucking spot.
                                         
                                        What are you, the Lucas brothers?
                                         
                                        You're something, get out of here.
                                         
    
                                        Come on.
                                         
                                        Okay, I'm with that.
                                         
                                        I think you can wrap it up.
                                         
                                        Are we cutting that?
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        No, definitely not.
                                         
                                        You join you as well as though.
                                         
                                        We're all completely.
                                         
    
                                        listen in that one we're all going down yeah yeah well look it's been so nice to have you yeah
                                         
                                        thank you for coming i can you want to plug real quick before you go oh i didn't even think of that
                                         
                                        yeah probably i'm doing um we'll have just have the same next few days i don't know i guess
                                         
                                        i'm doing the salary in like a couple of weeks and um oh wait a minute no no i'm not
                                         
                                        that's because i have nothing to plug that was a dream i had uh okay i have a couple of gigs
                                         
                                        but I can't remember.
                                         
                                        I have like one next week
                                         
                                        and one the week after.
                                         
    
                                        Can you mention when you go on those gigs?
                                         
                                        Can you mention money?
                                         
                                        Because, uh,
                                         
                                        it ain't going well?
                                         
                                        It ain't go well.
                                         
                                        I spent all my money
                                         
                                        getting us my tunes.
                                         
                                        I fell for that scam
                                         
    
                                        where the Nigerian prince
                                         
                                        emailed me that Nigerian prince
                                         
                                        said he gets my iTunes.
                                         
                                        That's the Nigerian prince
                                         
                                        said he knew Tim Cook.
                                         
                                        Okay, well that's,
                                         
                                        I didn't you have to plug James
                                         
                                        No actually I've got nothing coming up
                                         
    
                                        Same with me
                                         
                                        We're fucking notting
                                         
                                        Not fucking nothing
                                         
                                        Promoters
                                         
                                        Listen to us
                                         
                                        We're fucking desperate
                                         
                                        I will get on my knees
                                         
                                        Anyway that's the end of the show
                                         
    
                                        Thank you very much
                                         
                                        Thanks for listening
                                         
                                        Good night
                                         
                                        Bye
                                         
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