Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 140 : Michael Collins with Kev and Jason

Episode Date: December 20, 2021

Jason and Kevin show up from the Shite Talk podcast show up and we chat Michael Collins. https://shitetalkhistory.libsyn.com/

All right. Hello, everybody, and welcome to... What is this? What is this? No, you guys lead. It's your podcast, basically. We're in your house. Yeah, we've broken in like some ruffians. Yeah, I'll explain to Kevin, we're doing a swapcast. Yeah, I don't really know. What does that mean?

First of all, could you explain what is a podcast? Because I'm still in the dark. Brian doesn't let me know. Well, we did a gig in Kenney last week. We had to explain it to the crowd who are coming to see us. How is that actually? The live show. Yeah.

And Routy, but great crack. Very different than the one we did with him. hysteria down in Chenay. I couldn't think of a more different group of people like... I loved it though.

I got off at the first half and I was like rubbing my hands together being like this is class and you and Mike were like

we need to fucking settle everybody in Kilkenny where was that exactly what was the venue Ryan's Bar is that what you used to run yeah yeah

they said on the wall they got those the girls with cleavage not anymore I think that was a topless Bob Dylan but a modern day Bob Dylan

those are pictures of David Bowie over the wall with a couple of buttons on done. Ryan's changed.

Yes. You play Marother for that, getting notions. Used to be a picture of Christy Moore no.

Topless? Back when it was a man's bar. I did see him in Carlo a few weeks ago and he's gotten so old that he

like instead of shouting at people now to not sing along, he doesn't have the energy for that but he does stop everyone

in the middle of the gig and go so my doctor's been telling me I'm sitting down for an hour and a half and one goes too much

so I'm going to get up now, but he can't, like, hold the guitar on his back. So he just just belts out a ballad. What age is he? A cappella, 76. Okay. Yeah, so he just goes up and sings on his own. But, like, hard living, 76.

Is he hard living? I think he's the opposite. Not anymore. Not anymore, but back in the day. Oh, yeah, obviously, but that was like, back the day he was a hard of living. Yeah, but he was like, there was, like, his picture was up in several pubs and hotels around the country, do not serve

this man. It's like, he'd go missing for, like, three days on the his. Christy, just one more. But that was like the 70s wasn't it?

So you imagine how hard you have to be going in the 70s people would be like you've got a problem in Ireland in the 70s

we were like jizz that man's fun like you're literally just drinking concrete he probably convinced the bar staff to be like

it says you're not to serve you Mr. Morris that means you can't charge me now fucking put it on the table

I'll have your head but no we should do an introduction to this podcast yeah we started to do an introduction and just

went on a rant well it's a swap gas so it's going out on boat platform. It's going on, it's going out on, it's going out on, we have to say the name anyway. Brian and James, fuck each other. I'm sick of being, like, I'm sick of having to hide it.

Fuck the asteris. That's who we are. No more asteris. No more asterisk. No, F, star, star. Currently, the internet can't entertain the idea of two men fictionally fucking one another. No, there's no fictional fucking, yes. If I'm still watching, hypothetical penetration. When we do a live show, actually, I think it'd be

quite funny if you're like spit in my mouth or something like that and each lot and so we do the whole live show you spit in my mouth and it's like next time guys and we work a way up and then eventually we get to like the the tree arena now and then it's like full on and no one likes it it's kind of like you know black mirror when he fucks that pig

yes everyone loved that that was the best episode when you're talking about it I was going to say it's like you saying bold breaking the world record yes because you get paid every time you do it so he never went like he never shattered it because he was like, well, if I will, I'll never beat that. So I just want to beat it by like one tenth of a second every time.

I never knew that. Yeah. I've made it up there on the spot. That episode of Black Mirror led to Brexit. And because that was like, that was the pig fucking episode. And after that, around about that time, that story about David Cameron and the Bullions Club came out. That's right. And then as an order to deflect from the fact that he was a pig fucking tough, he was like,

well, what about if I gave you what you've been shiting on about for years and we do a referendum? That all, like, genuinely all happened in the space of a couple of months. and look at us now. You're right, actually, yeah. And it's interesting because that whole thing like, oh, I want to leave the EU. That was something

they've been going around since they entered the EU. Exactly. And it was always, it was always in the back pocket to be like, if we really need to distract the people, say if they find out I fucked a pig.

We throw this at them and that'll... I mean, come on, like, all he did was put his cock in the mouth of a decapitated pig's head as a goof. Different story. Who has?

You amongst us hasn't. It's pure fun. It's pure hedonistic goofs. It's no sexual thing to do it at all. you can put your I've checked you can put your cock in the mouth of something dead and do it in a funny way and it's not actually sexual and not but you barely even enjoy it you can't get it cancelled for that trust me this is a history podcast yes i forgot right yeah oh back to the intro yeah so i i cannot if you haven't liked it until now

i cannot express enough how much your fans will hate us and they will not just be a weird episode they all skip but i can't express how much we both love you yeah thank you so great we haven't you got started bitches yeah we're both are you a pay I'm a paying subscriber yeah we're both we're both

really subscribers yeah oh did we get lost in the big numbers there he doesn't let me see see Brian holds all the passwords to all the accounts I'm not allowed to see anything checking the ticker tape every day

I'm easy he's Jerry Heller I'm getting screwed over here I was listening the other week and you said that you had like you had a little bit of money in the bank it's all built up now We had some money. I invested it.

You bought stock at AMC and GameStop. Turns out that was actually just for a junk. Yeah, there is money somewhere. I told you, you're going to get it eventually. Please, because I'm actually so broke right now. Like, not even in a... I'm not being hyperbolic or funny. I am genuinely struggling financially.

Please give me some money. I do love hearing that. Oh, I'm so... I know I lock... Because that's the thing when you're like overweight but like have no money people are like

he's fine look at them stuff in his face like no because I'm living off like 30 cent noodles government cheese but I eat them like 12 times a day

so anyway So you've a Patreon as well We do How's that been going? I'm sorry With us now Otherwise Shut up

Can we do we have a way to give a free link Is that even a thing now? I don't think it is though I don't think so They don't listen anyway Brian drove over In the phone call

He was like Where do you live? we're actually listening to one of the episodes now yeah we listen to the Orange Order episode so I mean like you guys it's information first yeah yeah so we're very emotionally led yeah so like you get all the information

and then you're comfortable with it and you know what you're talking about and then it's funny that's a lot that's a you bullshit to make it seem like you know what you're talking about one person has done with depending on who's running the podcast because like if it's one of us if it's my if it's Kevin's

turn I'll lead with. He does a lot more. You can look at you're in his room now. You see all the history books over there. Yeah. Yeah. It's a big room as well. If people knew how you lived, I mean, it stops to subscribe to the battery on that. But no, he cares a lot more about history. It was his idea to start the podcast. And he had had a failed run of a different podcast with the same idea with a friend who wasn't a comedian. Oh, really? That's not entirely how it happened. How's it goal? We, um, this was like six years ago. all your money on Patreon No, we just

You get it eventually I need to pay rent now We recorded the thing On like Irish mythology We recorded it from my phone My phone was just sitting on the table And the two of us were chatting And they picked it up on that

But I thought it would add an ambience to it If I had a record playing in the background But that just meant they couldn't edit it Because you just hear the record skip Yeah, yeah, yeah good But no we only did one It was just for the crack It was before we even knew what a podcast was

Who is this guy? Where is he now? Don't fucking bring him up now It's a very sensitive subject For Jason It's like bringing up Geck's wife Yeah he's very insecure And the hands getting ready

Like what to name that bitch Was he better in bed than me He was just different A podcast somebody else I'd love it like Would you? I actually love it because it's like You're doing so you're out of house

You wouldn't have to worry about me so much That's great to see him out there There is sometimes like every now and again I'm not sound mean here But sometimes like you know you're out in the pace of whatever And like you don't text back next day I'm like oh It's happened

yeah i get that that's sort of that's an old that's the old cadden way yeah yeah yeah i'm gonna get knock on the door i'll have to get a suit now pretend oh he was a great man ah yeah well okay so it's a history podcast and i i love the way like this you you walk away and you feel like it's a good meal i think we're all saying it's like eat some bad chocolate a substantial meal a substantial meal yeah yeah a great one okay that's a reference Prince that'll hold up. But, like,

but also it's kind of like when you find like a, you know, like a chicken fillet roll, like underneath a car seat. Yeah. I had one today. Yeah. See, again,

great, but it's not like, you know, the healthiest thing. You blow off the kind of the dust and the, you know, little dust bunnies all over it.

Well, I finished him started drinking the straight whiskey. So that's... Drinking straight whiskey? Yeah, he had no ice. Oh.

There was so many ice. He never bothered to ask. I didn't ask. How's your drinking me going? Ah. I've been living in Carlo for the last six weeks, so I'm pretty good at it now. Yeah, it's kind of like, oh, I need to be sobered living Carlo. No.

So I was saying, like, it's a great history podcast. Do you ever get people who are like kind of like nerds are like, oh, you made that mistake or you made that mistake? You fucking idiots. Oh, really? Yeah. Which we try to refer to it. It's called, it's the first thing you read, it says shite talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it's two comedians who, let's say. it's like a loose retelling of Irish stories. That's what I said earlier. Kevin does more research. Well, he takes I don't know if he does more. He does he takes more serious topics. Okay. And then I don't want to do that because I'm busy. Or I don't care.

Sure. He's very busy down and Carlo drinking. There's an awful lot to be done then there. Well not, I don't get people who come in. I had someone, someone bought we did like a three-part episode and the third part. It was about Sean Quinn and it was behind the paywall. Okay. And

someone listened to like 12 hours of content and then demanded the five euro back because they were like really wow you kept saying this guy's name wrong and I was like well I'm not I don't think I did I'm not go back and listen to nine errors to figure out if I did or not but I don't know

his name you seen wrong Jason Jason I actually can't remember it was one of the names he was like oh to disgrace and but no one's ever like too too mean our fan base really aren't that pedantic at all.

I think he just wanted his money back. Our fan base are pretty simple. It's sort of like you. They tune in every week. It's like, oh, they're still alive. You ever see Slingblade? That's our fan base. Yeah. Now, when we walked someone from the gig,

we walked three people from the gig in Chenet at the hysteria gig. Really? Yeah. They said, we didn't even know. They're sensitive. We didn't know if it was pro or negative, but we had mentioned Cromwell and they either decided we didn't go too hard or not hard enough it's a weird hill to die on in

2021 cromwell well there's an English fan who flew over to Dublin for the first ever live gig and he brought his mother and I think like he either brought his auntie or his auntie was living in Ireland and they came down and we walked them within the first like 20

minutes she was very but then she hung around the whole night and she kept walking then she kept doing that like middle aged angry woman walk where she was purposely walking into the wrong room in the hopes of she wanted us to say something sure yeah she kept trying to leave a bar

by going into the basement in a huff then turning around and storming out again she's hunting for an argument exactly so her son brought her over from England

is like you're gonna love this mom yeah and then we made some reference to Cromwell and then she was like I think she was only because we weren't going Adam hard enough

okay or we were making light of it yeah which Cromwell there's two Cromwells Oliver Cromwell no there's two Oliver Cromwells Oliver Cromwell

as in senior. To hell or to Connock to that one. Yeah, there's that one that everyone knows but there's also the other one that was friends with King Henry VIII, if I believe I'm right. Well, well, well. Brian's done some research. Look who's bringing a gun to a knife here.

It's played by Mark Rylands, I believe. I'm probably wrong. That's why I don't do a history podcast. This is going to be a Michael Collins episode, by the way, just let people know. Yes. You have two framed pictures of Collins. We have a story about that, but we specifically asked you do we have to watch anything for this podcast you're like no don't worry about it you've seen michael collins to film like

yeah yeah yeah i mean like we're not savants like james cadden well i'm not savante either i'd be honest i thought you guys would almost teach us about michael collins that's kind of what i was hoping yeah yeah we're not history bubs we just really needed a way into the irish comedy scene yeah it was like no one's stolen the dollop yet right we'll do it so hysteria didn't works now you're coming to us I'm like wow I'm trying to chip in you've done that gig

in Mullingar I love that love that gig I love that place we are doing a live gig there mark my words this Friday but now so you weren't

offered framed photos of Michael Collins no oh by these two the two men the two men I was gonna say two mentalers but that might be you know a bit insensitive

because the second part is I met a guy last week who had also did the game in Mullingard and he was like, yeah, these two guys gave us photos of Michael Collins and I was chatting to him, he was like, oh, you one of the boys from Shite Talk, because they stayed with

the two lads and was like, oh, the two lads have been listening to every episode, wait if you had to give him a shout out. See, that's weird because... So here it is. A bit earlier, like maybe a few weeks or a couple of months earlier, Owen Colgan, like Buzz from Artybox was like doing the gig there, so I was on the bill. And afterwards, these two lads kind of

came, and it must be the same two lads. Now, they didn't give me any pictures of Michael Collins, but there was like a weird energy there's no mistake in the boys and they both they kind of like stood on either side of me and they're like do you want to come to our gaff for pints or whatever this is there and I was driving I was like nah I'm good

man and then they both just kind of stared there stud there staring smiling was like really love that material man yeah dark as fuck yeah I was like cool cool thanks uh yeah gotta shoot off now boys it was nice to meet his but you know when like there's someone on either sidey I had to keep

turning my head to look it's like you know use could rectify this if one of you stood over here but I didn't want to be a dickhead and say that I just left. Well, they know what they're doing like. Yeah, yeah. Actually, I genuinely don't think that they do.

They're like, actually, yeah, you're right. They're quite... But don't say to... We have made a plan around going back there and staying. But I heard they're rich. Yeah, I heard they're wealthy. They're very wealthy.

So we should probably release this after we've stayed in their house. No, release it. They want to hear this. They're going back. We'll go away. No, we're all going back. Oh, yeah.

The aim is to do all of us and James Morin. Yeah, let's do it. We can do crowd work. Yeah. That'd be dangerous. We all do crowd work. We all get up on stage.

Like, whoa. Where are you from? Mollingar. Where are you from? Also, Mollingerar. That man just asked me where it was from. One thing about Mollongar, they're always quite rowdy, but you can literally say anything. There's no one.

No one's writing a blog the day after in Mollongar. Much of the preference of the host. Yeah. Matthew Talon told me that the only thing you can't, they don't like landlord. jokes. Apparently, he went up and did a bit about, or someone made a joke about landlords and they were like, well, they have to make a living.

Get back to the dead baby stuff. So I was raping a baby's corpse in this gaff that was real expensive. Boom. Get back to the second part, but we like the first part. And if you do like that kind of humor, Bright and James have a Patreon

you can subscribe. You say Patreon. I thought it was Patreon. I do. But I, well, Well, it's patron. It's kind of like Memo. Like the Renaissance movement. What? It was patron.

Yeah, Leonhard da Vinci. Yeah. But then any of the people I know who make money from it. Like the turtles? Always say pizza, Donatello. But they always say Patreon. Really? Yeah.

Or else I've spent too long in America. Now, of course, people, now, if you are a fan of our podcast, you'll know that the Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles, of course, An allegory for human sex trafficking. They had tunnels underneath the cities. What did they like to eat? Pizza. There was a rat, and we all know what the rat represent.

I'm not going to say it. But the students of history, I'm sure, will know. It was set in Rome and more particular in the Vatican. That's the type of stuff you can expect if you listen to our podcast, if you've never heard us before. Big insights. I do those kinds of rants and make those connections quite a lot. I'm wondering if the listener will find it difficult to follow what's going on.

yes because we never actually explained what is happening let's do an introduction yes so i still know what's happening what is this is a swap cast okay i'm going to take over now this is a swap cast just to lay down the foundation here this is a swap cast slapping the table is like that's great radio with two podcasts it always comes through great and audio i'm so weak as well as like put some crackers in your mouth my fingers yeah so it's two two great well one great podcast talking shite, shite talk and Brian and James fuck each other

Well, we're gonna go on the intro buddy Yeah Screwed the pooch there I'm like Dave Fanning Does he like dogs he does It's shite talk An Irish History podcast That's the full title

That's exactly it You guys could be on news talk Because you're not like swearing that much You don't go too dark Like you know where draw the line That was an active choice For me Kevin still swears

Yeah You know me better is it like. I know, you swear like a sailor. Yeah. Like a bloody sailor out and leave. And spend my money like them as well. Yeah. The, but no, I just, I listened back to the first two seasons or one, whatever it was. I was like, Jesus Christ, I curse an awful lot because it's just a crutch. It is a crutch, you're right. But it's a fucking good one. It is. It's a way of thinking though, isn't it? It's like

the fucking. Yeah. And people in America used to like, you curse way too much and I realized then that I was like, all right, I'm using that as a way just to like go because I used to work in radio and I used to always go and I was like alright on the podcast instead of doing that I'll just say fucking those bastards

we go in other ones so you're a cunton you know that cuntin what's the word I'm looking for oh cunt the rape allegations no that's the wrong word

Is this silly introduction I think well now we were talking about this earlier on you just watch it's always sunny the Philadelphia I do I watch a recent episode

there do they swear in that show they do they do they say everything they do yeah well I've noticed the newer seasons

they started to say fuck and even Kant back of the day it was always like shit god damn Jesus that's what I was saying

but the newer seasons obviously FX are like look do whatever you want here's the interesting though maybe that's what it is yeah

because back in early seasons you could joking to say a slur yes all right but you can't really say slurs as easily

now yeah I think you definitely get a lot more pushback from networks me like do you need all the slurs very first episode actually

the gang gets racist Charlie Day drops a hard end he does yeah he does but now because of that they're like well we'll say

cunt more yes and that kind of they know who we mean because Americans love that that's they really hate that

don't they have you dropped the sea bomb in the States every single time I'm on stage as a feeler kind of like

I'm fighting I'm touching out the jab just to see what's working what's coming behind it and if they laugh for that I'm like well it's a fucking free game now I would love to see that in Irish audiences

though as well they don't even like it all they do like it's a little it's a very harsh in an American accident you can't yeah you fucking can't it just it's it's a thing of if you say it just drop it in casually as you're starting to set that then you know

right well it's a punchline later on I better change that punchline if it doesn't work the first time yeah that's interesting now yeah I'd like see him Fallon that'd be quite but we don't have any sacred words there's nothing left if you were really angry we can't really say it and that doesn't...

No one cares you dropped the Teague word you know? Yeah, yeah but if you're really annoyed and you're like that fucking Tyg you can also say that about your best friend

who won the lot of it. You don't know to correct him on his pronunciation like four seconds after he says. We did it subtly though I don't even know because no one never says it

like no one cares like an Irish slur yeah yeah well see like Paddy and Mick but those are just our names I think we should we should start our own one

what what did you say I was thinking paddy in something else what about spudder because we love potatoes you bloody spudders that's good I'd say there must be some real old English ones for like Or Fenian

Yeah Fenian scum They used to call us monkeys Oh well listen You know no disputes there But eh I was just the black Irish When we've since realised It's not a term we're out to use anymore

Black Irish Yeah Because I'm black Irish. What exactly is... Dark-haired Irish. Like dark-haired, sallow skin. Oh, okay, right, right, right. I guess you would be as well, Kevin.

I guess, yeah. I'm like kind of like ginger and pasty, freckles. Overweight and sad. You know, classic Irish. The classic Irish. The Brendan Gleeson, but without the money. That's kind of what I'm going for. And your trousers are dry.

They are quite dry. Not as dry as I would like, but they're getting there. No, were we all at the fringe two years ago? I think I was. I was at someone's gig there and it might have been Emily Ashporn's actually and she was asking, did they even know any interest in Irish names to the audience?

And like a Spanish woman in front of me put up her hand and was like, oh, a Fenian. And I was kind of laughing to myself thinking like, oh, someone's pulling her leg. And went up to her afters was like, yeah, do you actually know someone called Feeneon? I thought someone was taking the piss and she was like, oh no, like my boyfriend's friend from back in Northern Ireland, it's called Feeneon and it was Martinis's nephew. what?

Fair enough. I was going to guess it's like Funnon. No, I think it's full up like why wouldn't you call your...

Finian. Yeah. It's a term of endearment probably, yeah. But it's the Irish for a warrior. I mean,

Finan is an Irish like Finan. It's a weird Finnian. I think it was a hard E. It was Fienian.

It's got a good ring to right now. Yeah. Now I mean, don't bother looking that up to see if it's true or not.

I just think it's a funny Well, looking up if there's a Spanish woman in the Edinburgh French Festival two years ago. I'll find that.

She left a trail. I have my methods. I fucked her. Much like most of the podcast, like our podcast, don't go Googling stuff. That's like, that's kind of one of the good things

about having a podcast that nobody listens to it and kind of sends us in and nobody cares, you know? You can't be. Well, I was going to say it's the opposite because you have like a,

you're like the comedians comedian's comedian of podcast that like all the Irish comedians are listening to eat. Yeah, but they don't share it or tell anyone they listen to. What's up with that actually? There's number of people I know

who are like, oh, I love it, I couldn't see it. Why? Why? You... Just because it has fuck in the title? No, it's not because...

That's certainly not the reason. Yes. Or it's not because the voices. Oh, you think the accents are the problem? I have prefaced the use of the voices many times and I'm sick of defending it. Yeah, I've seen what happened to Shane Killis.

You know, that was... It's kind of what I'm hoping for. If that's not my trajectory, I'll be dead in a year. You're the young bull. It's either Rogan or... or the gutter. It's funny. See what way it goes.

If you do like an Asian voice, like, ah, it's ironic. Like, ironic of what? Taste? You know,

it's, I'm just making foot of like that sort of thing. You're right. It is, you know what it is? It's, it's very hacky and silly and dumb.

And the only kind of merit, if there was any, is the fact that like, I don't know, the old stuff shirts get a little uncomfortable when you do it. Yeah.

But rightfully so I mean I don't think that justifies it in any way Like if I'm ever sort of brought up And what the Hague Yeah yeah The comedic Hague you know There's like a nasty walker and like Yeah you go on there yeah

We need loads of time with his cadden man Yeah yeah Ah hey everybody knows It's good spirits you know It's all in good fun It is in good fun Well that's a good chance for us to go like Hey listeners we've given the go ahead for this

That's like we think both of these guys are great. Oh, yes. Like, I don't know what, obviously, no, you're asking us, do people ever give out to us about, like, oh, you've got all of these history facts wrong? Do people actually ever give out to you?

No one's got proper angry. There's a few people who, like, have come to me almost like, as a friend to be like, are you sure you want to do this? Yeah. They annoy me. I'd rather people get angry. And they come to him. Nobody ever comes to me. I really have like a really unapproachable, unpleasant, aesthetic

or demeanor or something that I never hear from anybody about anything. Well, it doesn't help that, like, you're constantly talking about how, like, I'm so unapproachable. I'm so unapproachable. Don't ever talk to me. Also, you're very tall. Yeah, I guess I'm a big, kind of burly... He's a bull, man.

He used to play rugby. He's a fucking bull. When I was, like, 14, with Protestants as well. So, you know... You just let you lose in there. Yeah, they brought me onto the pitch, like Hannibal Lecter, you know, in a stray jacket, and a muscle.

Let me at him. Let me at him. Why do all the other lads have studs in their shoes and I have blades? It's like, well, James, just do your words. Oh, fuck, some baseball player used to do that, actually. What's his name? We talked about him. Ty, um...

Oh, fuck, what's the name? Ty Borell from Modern Family? Exactly, yeah, yeah. When he was a baseball player back in the day, he used to actually sharpen his boots on purpose and deliberately, like, try and get in the head, like, yeah, yeah. Oh, really? This is about Michael Collins.

Yeah, actually, yeah. So, do you think the treaty was a good idea? Did it sell out Ireland? Great segue. A master of it. segues over here. Well, we've a long run and thing on the podcast

of Kevin disbelieving that Limerick is the treaty county. No, no. You've just got you're the lucky

get it's yeah I didn't have a lucky guess. You did have a lucky guess. I knew it. I don't know. And we had a big argument on the podcast. I say that he edits

the podcast so I got edited it down to this like I need to hear the uned the version. There was Dundalk slurs. Oh my God.

Yeah. He was calling me a scalyady. It went fucking... It's like Opie versus Anthony. A scallion eater? Yeah. You'd draw it as gun. That's the Carlo.

You know, you've got like the Banner County. You've got the... Okay. No one cares about Carlo because, you know, being brighter from there. Monaghan. Monaghan is very much forgotten. If it wasn't for the Monaghan Dublin bombings, no one would even...

Would have heard of him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That really put us on the map. The tourist office did that on purpose. You do, yeah. False flag. They know, they didn't even bother putting the plaques on a wall. It's one of the few plaques

it's on the ground. So it's only for moping fuckers and walking around looking at their shoes they're in their seat. Kind of like the Hollywood stars. Yeah. There's one on Parnell Street

and one on the Abbey Street. But, um, well, no, because you said that the treaty county, the treaty county is called the treaty county because of the like 1691 treaty.

Oh, no, don't bring up facts. And you said it's called the treaty county because you thought the dead hid out there. I called it the treaty county. Yeah.

Yeah. During the Anglo-Irish tree I thought we agreed to edit everything else until I was right Now I'll be honest I don't actually understand What you're talking about

Yeah neither do the voices Yeah When do I do the voices Well if Devalier was a black man Yeah A little something like this Oh here goes Tell you what

Captain do blind boy Blind boy Oh I have depression And I wear a bag on my face That's pretty good Now you sound like you it's not holes in the bag yeah

ah yes I am very unhappy it was Ty Cobb by the way was a baseball player Ty Cobb yes who played him Tommy Lee Jones yeah great film about him but so it's called the treaty county what's the film called the film's called Ty Cobb

oh yeah yeah yeah it's about Ty Cobb obviously yeah Tommy Lee Jones is like a drunken racist baseball player from when like the 30s 50s I think yeah It's about he's like washed up Okay, and he's like, I'm the grace baseball player And like, what about Babe Brew? Fuck, he that cunt!

And then, uh... Homefield is six yards shorter. They've got the stand six yards lower. It doesn't count. They got the Negroes now. It's a great film. It's about a fan of Ty Cobb who spent time with him. He's like, Jesus Christ.

Like a journalist, right? Yeah, and there's some excellent slurs. Wonderful. Excellent. Almost like a, like, like, like, like jazz I haven't seen it but yeah

it's on my list so it's called the treaty county because that's where shit was going down because it happened London didn't it well it's good

no it's called the treaty because they signed a different treaty in 1691 there but also coincidentally when Michael Collins was in London

they've hit out in Limerick while the treaty was being signed in some what was the hotel you made a big deal of it at the time

I knew it at the time though but the hotel I know I'm scrapping that all loved that so much passion at the time and I was like I don't remember that shit. My roommate in particular will do this like oh that thing

you said was wrong. It's like one I don't remember two I was high and three leave me a lot. I don't have the rent by the way because you're a lot like me that you're another green boy. I do I took the reefer on occasion yes when I can afford it. I'm actually smoking my

roommates homegrown shit at the minute. Not bad. Not the best. Not the best. but it's all right he'll probably listen to this so shout out what up boy smoking the homegrown herbal and ting hear me know

but it's like that idea of like people calling back to things you've said previously yeah not on a podcast not on a stand-up gig just like I'm just talking to you as a person

and then they go like all right oh you said this before you're like I've said a lot of things exactly but the thing is you know you bring it on yourself in that. I made the decision to say those things while being recorded

so I have to be ready to defend them at a moment's notice. So I walk around with a blade in my boot just ready to go. Well, I get a lot is I get people come up to me talking about you. Okay. Okay, but they're always like... Kevin gets that about me.

Yeah, it's kind of weird. Like, people like can't be like, I can't compliment you directly because it would kill you. I have to like compliment someone else. Oh, these weren't compliments. They give you compliments about me. Yeah, yeah. But it's always like jays is now when james talking about de fella and oh

they're never going to details like it's always like this is the same as funny at the podcast you're like i'll keep this from james now he doesn't need to know about this it's for your own good i'm like broke as shit and i genuinely unironically think that everybody in the irish comedy scene hates me yeah but i'm actually that is a problem you have it is a problem i have yeah even today i was like scrolled shrinks oh they hate me and they hate me and they hate me and i should kill well it's Brian's eulogy is going to be beautiful

he was a well-loved wealthy man if only I told them before he died he didn't think so because I never told him I can pay you Thursday okay good thanks I could be you today but no no I'm actually coming across so pathetic here aren't I I have no money and everybody hates me

you're an Irish stand-up comedian I'd be lucky enough now there's no one I'm fully I don't think anyone hates me I say it's some naive we haven't had coffee for about two and a half years now, Brian. I mean, I've been out of the country. Yeah, yeah. That's the excuse. Yeah, yeah.

Oh, we can have coffee all time now. I live in Dublin. I'm unhappy. I don't live in Dublin. Because I can't afford it. Oh, I'll get a cup of coffee off Kev Larnay. And I go, sir. Kev shut that down straight away. It's like, nah, pal. I've got so many, I've got beans from all around the continent. I'm like, nah, give him a fucking tea bag.

Decafis. Really? I don't want him getting hyper and stay in here. Is it Barry's or lions? Because if it's Barry's, that's the final insult, isn't it? That's Little Brent. Oh. Oh, you were Barry's, man. We used to be Lions and Lions Goldblend. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And the mother just decided one day to... She went crazy one day in the supermarket, super value, always Super Value. Yeah. Went and got Barry's. It's been five or six years now. Hasn't changed. That's what I moved to America. That's what fucking people in America that I've given them go, this is the only

tea bag there is. Yeah. In America, there's another type of tea bag, but it's not, you don't put it in hot water. You put it on people's faces. Oh, you mean you're testicle. I didn't want to have to explain that. To these two. You had to explain it. Do you see my face? I was like, what?

There's other types of tea. You mean green tea? Yeah, you go up to a girl's like, hey, can I Earl Grey, you? You whore. Let me camamile, you bitch. So, yeah, get back to my question. Do you think it was

the right decision to sign the treaty? I think it was the only decision. I think I'm in the same. People are like, oh, traitors and all that. I don't think, because there was going to be a more conservative government coming up, wasn't there? Yeah. They were also, like, before World War I, like, we were on the verge of a civil war here anyway. They were going to give home rule.

All the boys in the north had just, like, chipped over a load of guns. And, like, 1914, the UVF had armed themselves. And down here, everyone was getting ready to arm themselves. Like, yeah, Ulster, 100 years later, barely is ready for unification. and it definitely wasn't ready back then. So if you had to come back with all the counties, it would have been to civil war, which there was anyway, so who knows?

But here's a question, right? The rest of the three of us. There's not alone. He's gone. Yeah. I'm genuinely, I am such an idiot. I have no idea why you're talking about. Well, now, here's a question.

We've done podcasts about this bore, and I've forgotten because of what we talked about earlier. When's Liam Nixon going to show up? What's so say? I don't find you, and I will. Radicalise you. Say Liam Neeson came back today and unified the country. Would you be willing to give up the flag and the national anthem for a New Ireland?

Well, what'll be a flag then? No, I don't know. We'd have to vote on it. You mean like a unified 32 counties? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, the unionists wouldn't agree to that. But say it just as part of the deal. No, that's true.

You're right. They're very laid back. They'd be like, yeah, just keep the tricolour. Oh, we actually like at the three colors. It looks good. It's fucking grown to me. He's dead now. We were just kind of not going to defend them.

That is a good point now. What would you... The flag tells a story, though. Yeah. That's the whole point of the flag. It's like Protestants and Greens and the white. Yeah, but it has sort of been university recognized as like, you know,

the Catholics and it's our side. It's like, it's like symbolic. It's basically like a real fuck you to like the unionists, right? I know what you mean. It is, ironically, it would be the perfect one, but you can't go from burning something on a bonfire for a hundred years to be like, actually, salute.

Well, then they can have their union jacks then. Yeah. It's like that. Yeah. But you need some sort of... He calls them Union Jack Eans. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. I'd say...

That's a joke for our listeners. I'd say, like, a blue flag with... Okay. All right, blue. You're going to take it's a gay, like... A dog on it. It's been turned into a shirt already. A dog.

A dog. A dog might be good. No, everybody likes dogs. A type of dog. An Irish wolf end with a balladlass. What's the name the dog? Spuds McKenzie. Spuds McKenzie.

That was a real dog. Cerbris or satanta. Was not a dog? Oh, the dog, the Ku-Kullin hurled a dog. Yeah, yeah, they love all that sort of stuff. Okay. And then changed the National Anthem to a nation once again. Brian just pointed at his mountain and said, hurled the dog.

Yeah, you did point it to, well, he hurled the dog. He hit the dog. Yeah, he swallowed the dog. I got too excited by history. It is a good, I've never actually even considered that, but yeah, if there was, like, going to be unification, they would want some new, like, kind of flag and new whatever national anthem. Let's put money down. When's it happening? 10 years?

Yeah, within the next 10 years. You think, yeah? Yeah, yeah. Okay. I mean, if I'm wrong, who gives a shit? If I'm right, we're all partying. I'm going to the prices writing and go, 11. Tomorrow.

It could be 100 years. I'm still right. I'm closer to it. I've talked to a good few people in the north who are like, it's never going to happen. And I really don't think, like, you know, as each, new generation cares less and less. Like, just like from, you know, like obviously there's a few diehards,

like the historians like yourselves. But like, you know, like the TikTok kids don't give you shit about Unified Ireland, you know what I mean? No, isn't there like IRA TikTok? They've got like thick asses. Oh, yeah, yeah. Just going to help the cause. Wait, unification of a country.

I can make money on Onlyfans. What are you talking about? Yeah. But isn't the, the, of course, IRA. Sinn Féin, they've made a real push. to go on the social media way, haven't they? Oh, yeah. Didn't he, Jerry got in trouble there like yesterday for that Christmas song? Have you seen that?

Oh, Chucky Arla, La La La. Yeah, yeah. What was that actually on? I saw, like, the article, but where was it? Some social media change. He got shared in TikTok. It's made to be shared. It's pretty funny that Jerry Adams is like, he's slaying the game right now.

Jerry's making Simpsons. Yeah. He was doing cat. Smash that like, buttons. And subscribe. That's when you know, like, it was like, all right. Jerry, take a back step from the front of the party. You just go on Twitter and start making cat memes.

It'd be so funny if he got cancelled in 2022 for like an inappropriate song. When he like, forget about all the IRA stuff. He like protected his paed brother. He's definitely murdered people. Well, now that was inappropriate. But then he's like, what's all these ping pongs, you know? Well, remember that time he said like, well, he said he was watching Django and Shane. He was like the Bally Murphy ends of...

Was that not Ennekenny? No, Endicenny did it as well. I think they've all done it Yeah, but he tweeted it there a few years He was like, what the fuck? Or she remembered, what's his name? Mr. Green Party said it there like a few, like last year.

What was the context? Don't look at me when you say that. Eam and Ryan said it in the dole there a year ago. I know, what was the context? He already stood up. It was like, I just want to say something. We're working like ends out there for you. No, I can't remember what he said it in.

I think he was quoting some rap lyric. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Was it kneecap? It might have been. Yeah, he was doing a, Spotify playback for 2020 but it would be funny to see Jerry

cancelled at this late stage in the game yeah that's so weird like just like stumbling at the last hurdle yeah no people love him so much he's become such a figure of fun now he's a cuddly man he's like the cuddly granda or something well we've been saying recently that it's

going to be like Mary Lou McDonald eventually because it's just like it's a whip around of like who everyone gets like a chance at this stage and I would be like the team shock of Ireland she'll get into power and it's like just like a couple of years, like about six months ago and everyone's like, well, Biden's going

to get in and he's going to at the ceremony, hand it off to Kamala. Yeah, yeah. No one generally taught that, though. No one... You didn't live there. No one's seen. You didn't talk to the people. You don't know what I've been through. Sorry, that's why I'm at. No one's sane taught that. Yeah, yeah.

But that's, like, people already think that that's what's going to happen, that like, Mary Lou's going to get in and then the induction ceremony. Sike! Yeah. We're going to drop down, like, Hatsy style, like, 40-foot flags from the bottom, and it's going to be, here comes Jerry. Yeah, he just comes in one of those, like,

hoverboards. You're standing on like, what it is. All work and no union. No United Ireland makes Jerry a very dull boy. I've heard there's files, sealed documents in, I think, MIT in Boston, that 100% proved that he was, like, you know, killing people, like. Yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

Oh, just that's what I've heard. Oh, that is... They're unopened. That's the whole thing, like... No, they got them. Do you remember a few years ago when he was arrested in, like, conveniently in the middle of an election cycle? Yeah.

It's the Gene McConville thing. And as part of, like, a... Yeah, it's in MIT, Boston. Yeah. Of course it's Boston. Yeah, yeah. Well, where else would they keep it? But they were like, in the...

You know, for the sake of history, we'd rather know than not know. So they interviewed people on, like, both sides, UVF, and people in the IRA. And they're like, you can tell. tell us your story, your full story. It'll be sealed until after either you die or like the last person involved is die. So there'll be no repercussions.

It's grand. Right. And as soon as like, MI5 and Edibed, like, yeah, give us those tapes. And it was all the people talking about how Jerry Adams had like ordered the G. McCombard murder. And they took him into. I do, yeah. I do remember him getting arrested.

They arrested him on us. They arrested him on us. They just fucking took the tapes. And MIT was like, this will ruin. No one will ever be able to do a project like this again because you're taking the tapes. Like, yeah. Don't give a phone. it's also inadmissible right if like yeah yeah because it was still hearsay it was the same evidence

they always had it was it was it actually mit or was it like was there any kind of intelligence no MIT it was just MIT itself yeah MIT was the college yeah i know but like why where to make the robot dogs why would MIT like you know just 21 did ever see that film that's a film you know not really heaven spacey he's a safer topic of it but no they just yeah for the interest of history and probably because they were all Bostonians and yeah they're all gay for that so what is just like more or less like a sociological experiment

let's just call it less about Jerry killing people just to like you know and there's no kind of like like law enforcement behind it or kind of like oh what are they saying there well that's what happened the FBI or whatever

I'm sure they had to have known but they all loved the Irish over there yeah Whitey Bolter was helping the FBI well he was an FBI informed yeah yeah he was helping everybody that's true that's what I mean I just don't I don't

But I necessarily that it was just strictly MIT acting on their own. I get you. I don't know. But they didn't take the files. They looked at the files, but it's not like they have them, like, we got him here, babies. And it's not evidence. Like, so. But they did hand them over to MI5 anyway, like.

So really, all MI5 got us like, oh, now we know there's rumors that he was in. Exactly. Now we have this guy who's. Pisshead McGill. Well, it was because it was the same people who'd always been saying it. They were like, well, now we've heard it on tape. Yeah. No, it was Laura's price, I think, had recorded it.

And then, but yeah, it was the same evidence that they always had. See, here's the thing, because it's so relatively recent. And we still get the brother coming out on the news sometimes being like, oh, my sister got killed. I made that sound very dismissive. Wow, wow, wow. You still have families coming out and, like, still very clear links. Yeah. But I think, give it, like, 300 years, and people will look at Jerry and the IRA and all that as, like, a very kind of like, yeah, fuck, yeah.

Very sympathetic. They're not going to look at the details, stuff like that. Well, there's even a lot of people. that turned their back on like Jerry at the time because he denounced all that stuff and like a lot of the people who are involved in the Gene McConlin killing are the ones that came forward because they're like yeah he told us

to do it we have to live with that murder and he's still walking around there yeah like Charles pretty much a celebrity now like he's sort of like you know the evolution of it on social media he's really like hey it's a fun time Jerry is like I have PTSD from the murders you ordered me to carry out and you're fucking making TikTok videos with

14 year old bitches with big dates It's not fair, Jerry I would love it if he dated like an 18 year old just on the cost of 18 He gets Charlie DeMilio pregnant I was never

And Charlie DeMilleon Not him now Who's the Dundalk Only fans girl Oh, Nevo Which one? Yeah, it's her Nevo's a big one

That's who he's gonna He's like She's fucking some Turkish guy But oh man He says he's Turkish It's still about Michael Collins It's Jerry with a tan and a lovely fade.

He's gonna go over to America and marry some like Instagram taut, you know? Is he, yeah, is he married, Jerry? Yeah, married. Who's he married to? Just a regular woman, like, not a model or anything.

But I heard Martin McGuinness, I think, fucked Jane Fonda. Oh, really? Yeah. You heard that? Because she's a, she... And Marilyn Monroe at the same time as JFK, I heard.

Sam Giacano was a spixie-whanking in the corner, yeah? Got that lad on. I hear he's freaking me out I can't he get hard when he's logging at me you whop con we're watching

I was watching in the name of the father there a few weeks ago Oh yeah A great film But one of the One of the guys who got released Then eventually Went on and married

One of the Kennedys Everyone was banging the Kennedy's like Yeah that's true But like one of the big Kennedys One of the fucking Top ones Like Teddy Yeah Teddy

He went over and bang Teddy afterwards Let's go for our drives They're all They're all one of the big kids one. It's like if you say like a Rockerfeller. You sure, but there's like some real drags. I was living with the fellow over in Texas that he said like he's from, I shouldn't say the state, but I will, like South Carolina.

And he went to like college with the fellow over there and he started dating like one of the Rockerfellas. Wow. I said Rockefellas. Rockerfellas. Rockerfellers. The boys. A Rockefeller. Yeah. You know we also got Rockefeller pregnant.

some rapper fucking oh what's his name you talk for me I'm gonna look it up yeah but I heard one of the lads I was living with

and said like yeah no he started like dating this girl and she was like part of the Rockefeller or whatever it was like

yeah but like second cousin or whatever's like yeah they're still multi billionaires

like the kind of the pleb end of the Rockefeller family could still have you killed no bother like you know what I mean

yeah like they're not being ushered in with the whole sort of eugenics transhumanism some stuff, but they still have a bit of

chain knocking around. As the kids say today, James, some clout. Some clout, yeah. It's still got a fucking speedboat, you know. They're chasing that clout, but when they finally catch that clout, they run them off the road into a lake. Yeah. Nice. Do you not find it? I'm trying to find this

now. It's driving a bit crazy now. It'll be tricky because then there is the Rockafella that came up straight away, yeah. So that's kind of, yeah, yeah. Well, you know, you're thinking rock and rolla, the guy Richie. With Gerard Butler, yeah Was that, was Rockefeller

started by Jay-Z, Damon Dash? Was that there? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Back to Michael Collins. Yeah, so Collins, okay. Let's do the film now. Is this still the intro? How much have we done?

Because I feel like we've done quite a lot. What? 15. 15? 15. Oh, shit. 5.0. Enough time to find out who the rapper was. You didn't find the...

No, I'm so annoyed that. I did find it was Paul Hill married Courtney Kennedy. Okay. Okay, that's good, yes. Anyway. Okay, that's the intro done now. Let's get down to the episode. Well, yeah, I haven't seen that film in a long time.

It was going to be Kevin Costner. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It was going to be very American. Yeah, yeah. I mean, it still is. And what's interesting is... Like ordinary decent criminal to the general.

Man. Ordinary decent criminal, don't even... Have you seen it? Boy, of course. Oh, yeah. Many times, Kevin Spacey as Martin Gowl. Yeah.

It's fantastic. I mean, obviously shite, like, but it's a lot of fun. But I've been like Harpin on at Howard at this stage. Harpon for his Dundalk Roots. But we think that might be the first of our shite talk film club.

Ordner decent criminal. Yeah. That would definitely be, I like the general, the one with Brennan Gleason. That's a great film. It's such a good film. Genuinely good film.

Yeah, but we don't want to do those. though. There's a lot to talk about in that as well. You're such a mad character. I mean it really is but like the order decent criminal it is just like a copy and paste of the general but like in a more ridiculous cartoonish fashion. You know what I mean? And Justin

dropped the flow completely it was G Electronica and it was a Rothschild. And they were whoa a Rothschild! That's a big that's a much bigger. And fair play the hidden. Also do you know what the story I told was also a Rothschild I was talking about.

I kept saying Rockefeller was wrong. Has everybody in this room fucked a Rothschild except me? I fuck J. Electronica. With a Rodschild. I fucked a Rodweiler, but that's not as precise.

You got bitten the arras by one. That's true, yeah. Okay, I like bringing up certain issues because things I think about a lot and I don't really know enough to have an opinion on. That's the 90 thing. I know some people that like

have an opinion straight away. Yeah. And I'm all such a funny- Don't look at me when you say that. Well, everyone here like, you especially. I mentioned someone you're like,

you know, Helen mirror and you're like, you know, Helen mirror and it's the other one I don't like. What's her name? Merrill Streep. Yeah,

yeah, yeah. I don't like, I don't know. I haven't seen enough movies. Maybe Merrill Streep's good. So when I bring up devil era, what do you guys think?

Because he's a very, like Michael Collins people like Professor Snape Badass Rockstar. Do you think evil bit sinister but with good intentions? I like the way you led that in there we were like,

oh, I'm just one of these guys. who likes to weigh up the options. Unlike you three men who just hear one thing you're like fucking devil, bastard, legend, he never did anything wrong, I love him. I just fucking spend too much time

researching both sides. Now I have a republic. Ho! Ho! Ho! Boom! It's great that they got him in for that. He's such a good era. He is great in that, actually.

He's a great devil era. I thought it was a really cool, like, old, like a hat tip to the Michael Collins film that they made Harry Potter where Devalera's glasses. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's a theory. Yeah. Jackie Rowland knew about it.

Yeah. Well, who is it going to be? Originally, because they're, again, I was saying it was going to be very American. Going to be Kevin Costner as Collins. They were thinking either Alec Baldwin. As Devalera? Yeah, yeah. Wait, he's never handled a gun. But that you won't cut.

Yeah, no. That's the world we're living in now. Why could he have shot a Protestant? Yeah. Or John Totorrell I could see that That would have worked better than Alec Baldwin But no Alan Rickman

Kills it Rickman really He kills it He became Devalera He's great Well yeah I don't know My good reaction to Devalera If there was a cool movie

Called Devalera Where Liam Leeson played Dev Maybe we'd be having a different story Sure But yeah he's a bit Devalair Ra Devalera Yeah

Well Mike and Collins is the benefit Of he was lucky enough To get shot when he was, what was it, like 31? Yeah, like, Kirkobain. He's a revolutionary. The 31 Club. You never get to see, like, Che Guevara, you know, a good clean,

everyone has the same opinion on him. But, like, it's easy, you know, well, it's easier to be a revolutionary than win the revolution and then go into politics. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because then he's not getting the blame for everything. Whereas the guy who got shot when he was still, like, out there as a gunslinger. How was Devalera as a post-Michael Collins, a politician,

you know, when things weren't as blowy-upy, was he a good politician was he he got down on his knees in front of the Catholic church and said yes please father yeah yeah I don't know what he was but then like who wasn't religious for the time yeah I don't know if he was uncharacteristically

Catholic now did he also sign the book of condolences for Hitler he did yeah yeah but that was that's not great is it in my book you have done research yeah I just did stuff I picked up from school like I used to get bullied in history class a lot so it's all very yeah Well, at the time, the Germans were just, like, not the British.

So when he died, he sent over flowers, and then all the stuff about the Holocaust started coming out and he's like, like, like a Larry David thing. Before the press got real bad for those guys over there, there was sort of a sympathetic, like, oh, you guys are kind of trying to fight the establishment just like they're over here. Much respect. Wait, they're doing what? How many in the camps? You'll speak up the island, son.

There was more than one. IRA man was like you know on his way back from Germany with a bunch of German troops and then got sunk in a U-boat and who knows what their intentions were when they got here but yeah like we were flat out getting guns from the Germans I'm sure getting them wherever we could

I think yeah exactly yeah am I right now again it's all coming back to me now like devil air I love how Brian's trying to play this off like he didn't do so much no I'm telling you they used to put pubs in my history book you've got notes written on that teacup

no no it's talk Jason's just shocked that anyone could remember like four facts about one of Ireland's biggest politicians despite doing a history podcast for two years. The teacher literally gave up. They would be bullying me so much. A teacher just be like, Ah, just keep it quiet, okay?

Oh, well, I had a history teacher who, in the leaving's her ear, one of the lads, Turlock Bard. He said that when Mackie Thatcher dies, I'll dance under a grave. And then the teacher jumped out of her seat. He was like, Turlock! You can't say that. actually it's fine

yeah like no one's going to like start crying over that don't put that in your leave insert paper but like yeah we're kind of but that's one of those like you could get lucky you know oh you had A1 I wrote seven sentences

I got an A1 lads there's a great video on YouTube I hope it's still up there where there's uh I'll be honest now a gay guy okay he's very camp okay and he's like oh my god thanks for being honest yeah yeah oh my god I hate

what's the name Hottie Charles Hawley Yeah yeah See I don't know that much about it But he was like I hate Charlie Hottie Ugh what a bad man And he dances on his grave

Oh really He takes a video of him Like doing a little jig on his grave And it's very sad And very pathetic In the way he's it He literally goes like Eh

Eh eh Yeah There you go Charlie Yeah It's like not as oppressive As like if Michael Flatley Had a grudge against you Yeah

Yeah I'll dance on your grave You're like No I'll turn in my grave I'll never sleep again do you ever see there's a three part I don't know

docus series with Aiden Gillen playing Charlie Lies Yes Yeah it was good Yeah I don't know how accurate it was He's not He's not doing anything

Other than Aiden Gillen though The whole time He never can't Yeah Ever since Tommy Carcetti In the wire He hasn't acted a day in his life He'd started doing this weird thing

Where he talks out of the side of his mouth He only opens up The side of his mouth And that's a sort of thing And that's Kinn And that's Love Hage and that's even

it's all part of your master plan Bain It's like It's all He's just realized Like I only get booked When I talked out of the side of my mouth Basically

Do a stroke And then Bell's palsy Did you see him play Dave Allen On that BBC TV movie? No

Is that out It came out like About three years ago Oh really Yeah But he's playing a comedian In it All right

And he is doing Just Aidan Gillin I love telling jokes Crowsy I don't know if to Yeah because apparently Dave Allen I remember watching a documentary

about him I don't know how true it was But apparently no one knew Harry lost his finger He's missing a finger Oh yeah He'd always tell like nine different stories

Yeah His son was being interviewed And he was like Yeah He'd never give me a fucking straight answer My own father It's probably something dumb My dad has that about his mustache

He never tells you where he came from Yeah He legitimately He's like why don't you shave it you can grow an incredible beard shave it down like look like a normal person no i'm gonna look like stallin i'm just gonna keep this going he's rocking the tash yeah for non-stop since i've been born is just going like nearly shaving-headed giant mustache and i was like he has that old irish father thing of going i have a scar on my lip so i just can't shave because

you'll see it yeah like no you just you just found the mustache yeah yeah Well, it's obviously working for him, you know? He got some ass. You're a testament to that. There you go. You're living proof. Yeah. I keep saying this lately, coalescence.

Is that what I'm thinking of? It's a fancy word. Coal essence. That's a cool black guy name. But for a white guy. Hi there, Colessence. How do you do? Coal essence.

That's not who we were picturing when we booked you. This is a rowdy crowd. I don't think they're going to like you. Oh, I'll be fine. I can't have a moustache now because everyone is like, oh no, you'd look good with a moustache. Same reason I can't have a mullet. My dad's got the mullet and the moustache.

See, I can see moustache working for you. Me, no, because I have a very kind of blondy kind of mustache. Yeah, you need like dark, like facial hair for a good moustache. You've got cool guy, uh, roady kind of mustache, I can imagine now. Handelbar.

Yeah, exactly. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. I like it. I would love to have a thick handlebar mustache. I'm loving these compliments. If I thought I would. It's a great. audio medium as well

wow you guys are so fucking hot aren't we anyway well Jason's dad also well I guess not anymore but like rocked a pipe once or recently we were talking about

you're outing his dad as a crackhead no he was on that pipe yo you heard rocking pipe and you made your own decisions now the mullet

and mustache combo makes sense he's a cracker I would tell everyone if you want your kid to be skinny and attractive smoke crack it's a surefire way

let's talk about the movie yeah okay well an interesting about the movie is it's nearly over guys don't worry

is the movie was meant to be way more like let's take out these fucking British scum hell yeah baby

you jukka do you know and then like them doing like cool shit yeah but then the American studio were like it's actually kind of

like it was very close to the peace process actually like getting signed yeah yeah So studios were like, we don't really want to be the cause of the next Civil War, you know that. So they're like, let's do the love story.

They know they could have had a great market in Ireland. Yeah. This movie's so good at cause Civil War. So instead they're like, let's focus on the love angle. Yeah. And the friendship between him and Devil Air and all that. So who do they get to, Kitty? And Julia Roberts is.

Yeah. It's better than fucking others, though. Have you ever seen Cameron Diaz? in Gangs of New York Yeah Oh no But that's Is that Irish American

Or does she actually play Irish In that? She's like They're Irish immigrants Come over to America But they're trying to Oh my God She might be trying to fit in

Like I do And that's why my accent's bastardised That like But like Julia Roberts Definitely did like Right I'm gonna do this accent

Try her best You're like Oh Your smile Isn't gonna get you through a horrible accent. I mean, it's not great, but I would agree that it's not the worst either.

I've heard way worse. I've heard worse, yeah. People tell me you sound American, like to me that I am an American. That means you're autistic. Does it? Yeah. I knew it.

I'm glad you said to me. That's the only diagnosis I need. That's how they kind of break it to you. Like, you're, you sound American? Yeah. We're going to give you respital all and Ritalin because you sound American. Just take it.

But so I'm trying to find my way into a Ritalin prescription. for someone who has it but doesn't want it. It's tricky. It's tricky. You can get there. He's got to do some paperwork and stuff. No, I know some Americans who have moved back home who've left me an Adderall prescription. Exactly same.

I don't make a prescription, but a girl gave me a load of Adderall and now she's a lesbian. Make it that which you will. I'm a bit afraid to touch it now. Did you date her for like two months? A big farmer here they still have you killed. I want to start liking pussy. Yeah, the film. So the film was nice.

96 and then the Good Friday Agreement's 98. So yeah, they are very close together. So that's why they decided to, you know, be a bit more measured with the portrayal. Well, that was one more thing about Jerry Adams and the Good Friday Agreement. James Warren told me recently that like, because there's multiple copies of it.

And on several copies, he signed his name like Jerry Adams, X-O-X-X-O, like Gossip Girl. Lolls, bids, for Evs, Jerry Adams. You will not believe what happened. Yeah, well, you know, because we're talking. And just like that, the Good Friday Agreement happened. he became a meme lord obviously afterwards but rarely even in 1996

XOXO bit of a prankster he saw it coming like Bill Gibson I thought of a very good point Why when I'm in the hot tub Why won't you give me A free independent Irish state And blow me

When I said blow I didn't mean OMA There we go There it is It's worth it now We're firing all cylinders now Just before we end Let's start the podcast

I'd have a good point it's probably not a good point. I have to run it by you guys because you're learned men. It's interesting that. I would prefer if you'd stop saying that. Yeah. An American studio had to make Michael Collins

because an Irish studio wouldn't or an English one definitely. No. It has to be an American would have that bit of attachment where they can't have him be a bit cool and badass and the ladies, Don Draper type, you know.

But it's also like quite big in scope. I don't think in the 90s. Yeah. In the 90s, an Irish film like production company or studio couldn't have imagined couldn't have managed to pull that off

I thought opening fucking GPO scene is huge you know what I mean and there's a lot of big set pieces like that so it gives it a bit more gravitas

I think there's a TV movie that was made about three years before with a certain Mr. Brendan Gleason playing Michael Collins and it's very cheap

and they can't help it like but it's like the general to or reason criminal well it's good quality but it's more like it's play in a way

or it's just like we're in one room room. Now we're in other room. You know, there's no explosions or like, cool. Like, it's a bit where he dropped down, he's attached the wires. They're in the GPO, but they've got super-soakers, you know. I mean, there's no need to go over the top with the explosions, but like a lot of it is set during a war. Yeah.

And I'm sure, yeah, the Irish player would just be them returning from something and being like, wow, we saw some action out there, didn't we boys? G-wiz. G-wizz occurs. When those bullets came flying, I sure felt it. As a film overall, like, regardless of what many people will take issue with is the historical accuracy and the liberties they take, which I'm not even fully aware of all the things that they

get wrong or, you know, lie about. Could you give me a quick rundown of that? Well, just one thing we touched on it. The Good Friday, isn't that what? Oh no, what's it? The Bad Sunday? What was that? Bloody Sunday? Yeah, it's a bad Sunday. Well, yeah, because there was two bloody Sundays. There was Bloody Sunday in Crowe Park.

Yes. That they show of the film and then Bloody Sunday in the 70s in Derry or whatever that? Right, right, yeah, yeah. But you would think that all. of a sudden like people go oh there's been a historical day named after this yeah you shouldn't use that again yeah jiz they really phoned it in with the second one was like just call it bloody sunday again people were still annoyed about the last ones like bloody sunday too which by the way is a quite good film if i recall the paul greengrass one with uh james james jesbitt yeah excellent

very good underrated now we're actually getting into proper films they actually shot a lot of it in bally mon very close to where i live now like you can see the flats and all in it, but it's very like sort of handheld running gun, shaky camera, but it really works aesthetically. I was going to say Greengrass loves the shaky... Yeah, that's kind of

his whole thing. He kind of got a bit distracted by Bourne, but... Yeah, yeah, he went a bit over... Yeah, yeah. But he has some very good stuff in his filmography back in the day, like, oh, great TV movies that no one's seen, that's just free on YouTube. Yeah. There's a great one about the murder of Stephen Lawrence. Yeah, it's great.

Yeah, it was a black guy who got battered by like, I think like six like white guys and then like the police were like so just like, oh yeah, we'll investigate that eventually. He's a great film about or a documentary about some guy running on the LA highway

on PCP like trying to, with a gun, trying to like stop traffic. I think it's called Martin Lauren. Was he on PCP? I heard it was heat exhaustion. I've been lied. I heard it was weed and you're like, no, no.

yeah he was like in his underwear waving a gun screaming they're trying to kill me is like he was talking about the critics after big mama's house you know they're trying to kill me there's only one thing that'll get people to stop talking about big mama's house too and you're not going to like it but yeah michael collins the film how do you feel about it apart from you know as a film itself the one bit that we did before was the breaking out of um like breaking dev out of lincoln chair prison yeah he yeah was he at the key melted with the candle was that that all bullshit or is that apparently that's all true I suppose they think they don't reveal their tactics but then the bit they haven't dressed up

as a woman I was going to say who were in for Ireland yeah apparently that never happened but that might just be Dave trying to scrubble it from the history

I wasn't a whore for six years the way he's like you know he got out of the 1960 executions because he was a yank that's called for

a big dirty holler the yank likes to wank he just ended up in that prison coincidentally on different charges he just went sissy up in the big house like Mama make you feel so good, Bobby?

Chronologically, he horde for Ireland and then about four months afterwards we broke him out. I was working a long game, boys. You were working the long shore. It is called strategy Michael if you would listen to

me just for God's sake, Dev. You're liking them off like it's nobody's business. They like it when I wear the glasses? it's a good episode I'm happy with this now we haven't really

they make me look like Mia Khalifa Michael Collins no well so I always thought it was interesting that I think doesn't make me an obvious answer for it but like how obsessed everyone is with the JFK execution there's no real Irish

conspiracies about Michael Collins hit me let's do it Brian's getting I gotta put a belt in his mouth when he gets like this that table's getting very say in a second ago it's a good episode he was just lying but now he's interested

he's into it yeah the Guardian okay and other publications but English publications now okay that's why it actually matters like about three months ago apparently there's lots of new stuff about his assassination and there's like a book coming out just meant to like lift a lid on it and he's like talked to it because no one

it's funny because if you're investigating this there's a lot of people who just never been talked there's documents is lying around like sign confessions is lying around that no one like cares about so like do people even know who did it Like, who pulled the trigger? I think, because I've brought this up a few times about why it's crazy.

Oh, no, yeah, we've been through this. It's Jonathan Rees-Meyers did it. Yeah, because they've fully showed in the film. Yeah, that it's just some young fellow, played by Jonathan Rees-Myers. And I think... Played? Oh. It was.

He was also in a film where he played one of those, the Shankill Butchers. Remember those guys? Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was also meant to be in a film where he played Michael Jackson, but... Ah. Some people didn't like the blackface. Fair enough. Fair enough.

I think it's because they know who did it. Okay. But maybe it's just local knowledge. And so what's, is there a conspiratorial angle to it? Well, the biggest conspiracy is Dev. The Dev did it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Which isn't really a conspiracy because they were like an open warfare at the time.

Sure. Yeah. It wouldn't make sense if he killed them. Apparently in the movie, they shot a whole scene that very specifically said Dev didn't do it. Oh, didn't do it. Yeah, didn't do it. Don't do it.

And they cut that. They cut that. So, like, it's not, it's not, it's not, no, it's not sintillating, it's not sexy. This wouldn't play into Rickman's character. He demanded to have a cut. No, but it's interesting. Yeah, just for the amount of obsession we have over different associations.

Yeah, look, September came out like, could new evidence help Ireland learn who kill Michael Collins? Because it's coming up to the 100 years. Yeah. It is, but also it's one of those things of, like, anyone who still cares about that? I care. It's fascinating.

I would like to. to know but you've realized that pretty quickly anyone who cares will go to get emotionally invested

we can just leave that in the past pump the break yeah it's definitely something that wouldn't help anyone if it came out now yeah

like it nobody it really wouldn't benefit anyone to know but the fact he was killed I don't yeah like a stone

straw away from where he was born who was killed by his own men yeah there's a theory here that it was actually

one of Colin's AIDS his aid that existed back yeah it was him and Padrick Pierce

that's why his missus had such a problem with it yeah so there's a theory that it was Emmett Dalton

okay now some theories say they did on purpose some say it was accident how would it be an accident like that was the only joke

that it was Rick O'Shea he got hit the accident that's funny hey you know it's a hundred years old but it's still good an oldie but a goodie you know

the classics never go out of style well is that Irish DJ yeah ricochet that was always a joke that's not his name oh really yeah

oh shit really yeah man that's so dumb this an artist called Frank Quietly and I didn't understand for ages he's meant Frank

quitely I thought it was wank quietly no Frank I said it wrong Frank Frank quietly okay what's the joke there i thought i was sorry what frank quietly

i believe quite frankly yeah so it's frank quietly okay yeah yeah okay and i'm a big fan of his work like it's only like recently i was watching a documentary about him like and he was talking about like yeah his name's like richard mcdonald or something like that and I was like what's going on

punch the laptop in disgust he's a very good artist his name's Jerry Adams yeah I've got two separate artistic endeavors like Banksy that's also

Jerry Adams I'm convinced like years ago I saw like a puff piece at the end of the news where like

they'd found a bankruptcy and they were like well we all know who he is but it was a time where he wasn't big enough

for anyone to give a shit yeah but I'm pretty sure they knew who he was a decade ago one of the lads for a massive attack

yeah yeah yeah that's one of the big periods yeah he's in Bristol this evening He was a shit.

He did, same four paintings for the last 20 years. Like, whoa, capitalism is bad. Rubbish in the park, maybe not so good. I just, did you ever hear of five points? Five points? Yeah. It's the New York base. Like, they had a whole, like, a city block wherever of, like.

Talk about that in gangs of New York, the five points. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But nowadays, that's before this, though, that they used to go and, like, just do a bunch of, like, they basically had a whole city block, or like this, like, dilapidated area. where they were let graffiti artists go and just do whatever you want. And not only outside the buildings, but the buildings themselves were dilapidated.

So inside all the buildings, they were like a bunch of like graffiti artists doing all of that. And it was like years and years of work for everyone. Yeah. And then the guy who owned it was like, oh, I can sell it for a like a fucking hotel. Burn it to the ground. Just demolish it all.

And like were the government paying the artists and stuff? no one was paying the artist. You're just like, your man who owned it was like, right, it's a dilapidated area. Let's just like, let them go out of it

because we can't make money from it elsewhere. So they would let them do that. And then right at the point of the owner going, oh, we're about to sell it. They go, we're bringing it to like the,

like, I don't know what the high court is. Yeah. I want to call it the high court. Yeah. Yeah. But then they all reached out to Banksy. Okay.

Who was at the time doing a month-long sojourn. Wait, now, hang on, stop the record. What? He was in New York for a month. Every day he was doing a new piece. Right.

I remember that time, yeah. Yeah, he was every single day in New York, a new piece. He was doing a new Banksy exhibit, but every day was a separate part. And they kept reaching out to him going, could you come down here because it's like 20 years,

or whatever it is, of like, historic... New York graffiti. And if you put something there, then they won't destroy it. And then at the very end of it, he'd finish his 30 days, and he didn't come down, and then once someone whitewashed

the whole thing, he just put up a thing. Maybe it was a day before they whitewashed it, but he was like, man, that's some bullshit. By the way, I just bought that property and there's a no hotel coming. I put up a picture of a rat with a wallet, and he's looking over his shoulder.

I mean, for somebody who rags on capitalism him as much. He does very well on the back of it. I remember he sold that painting and it destroyed itself. He won't shredded itself. So instead of it just being some shit painting, everybody in the world saw it and it's now in shredded form

worth way more than it was made. Yeah, he got sold. Yeah, I think he might have known what he was up to there. He probably sold every shred for a million quick. No, whoever it just bought it was like, oh, all of a sudden my painting is worth infinite more time. Like, aren't they insured as well when you buy big art pieces?

No, he didn't, no one bought it. No, because someone had just bought it and then when it was paid for it was shreds. That's a good goof. Yeah, no, but then, but the shredded form everyone saw, it's now way more famous than the unsreaded one. That's definitely hanging in this thing. He actually did build a hotel in Palestine. Oh, did he? Yeah, it was kind of a big

art piece where there was like stuff on all the walls and like, I think he had like statues of like, you know, dead people and something like that. He was like, Israelis are great. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what they need over there. Social commentary, man. Stop being so uppity. I mean, that's how you be subversive in the modern day, go to Palestine, build

a hotel and says, fuck you, Abe's, Israel Rocks. If you don't get it, you don't like art. Yeah, yeah. We all have, like, rockets being launched in our children's faces. Grow up. Get a job.

The rocket of capitalism. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm trying to give a good way to end this. What, is it not, on the Israel-Palestine conflict? Give it back to the Moors. It's a nice little in-between of, you know, Michael Collins,

Israel-Palestine. And then Michael Collins again, yeah. Yes. Was there more one question you wanted to ask us about Michael Collins? I'm trying to think right now actually there is but I've forgotten it now because we're having good fun to be honest. What about the answer to your

question? How would you feel? Do you reckon he should have pushed harder for the full 32? Oh yes yes exactly yeah because he was said like oh I've signed my own debt warrants. Now you think like that was the right choice that should have held out and you've been like you know I mean I ain't playing this shit all or

nothing. Yeah I think he yeah I think it's probably all he could have done yeah I think that's the end of day like I think people are a bit like yeah we put up a fucking fight here it's like yeah well you're ireland you know you can do a certain amount but also i think like in terms of like resistance and like you know by any means necessary i mean he did literally more than anyone ever you know he really like put his life on the line to do it oh oh oh look how excited bro i remember the cool fact you know what he was big into when he was young model trade no wrestling oh yeah he was mad into wrestling yeah

Well, for other, I'm gonna come down. Vince of Man's dad and Branda kind of said to rest of him. He was like mankind, yeah, yeah. In the ring, three minutes for 32 counties. They only lasted two minutes. It's gonna be a cage mass. Oh, God, they've killed him. They've shot him in their face.

Oh, look at those puppies, J.R. Good God, Collins's brains is on the tarmac. And it's dev. with the devil. It's a heart brother coming in on a sling. Oh no, that's the end

of the Irish Republic. He was like a legit champ, like, yeah, yeah. So like Greek, Olympic type wrestling. What you call it, collegian wrestling? Yeah,

the actual traditional type. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That, the UFC, that's kind of like that. Yeah. No, it's wrong. We, yeah, we've done episodes before on the collar

collar and elbow. Yeah. Which is just like, Irish lads clenching up and kicking each other in the shins. Wait, what? It was like the number one sport before G.A.

Yeah, it was like an old wrestling style. Shin kicking. Yeah, yeah. Rabin Kotler's skin kicking. It's a combination of like Muay clinching and then shin kicking. It hurts.

I mean, if you've been kicking the shin, you know, it's smarts. Yeah, and then your shins hurt and someone elbows you in the face. Yeah. Is there any kind of lads now they're trying to bring that back? Because there should be like.

We can try and video it. Yeah. that's what we need now new direction for the podcast shin kicking might be good for you what if it came down to it now

you know I could do some damage you're good too but you know it's getting that time the night now we're near to the end but like

riddling lad Ritalin Riddlin Oh Riddlin Yeah What's that mean I'll see

I thought you were the movie buffs Riddlin A fun quote from the film What film when he take from Michael Collins When he takes him Oh Riddlin is in shooting

Oh yeah I don't want to be here About ye riddling boys Yeah yeah yeah That's right Yeah Because they shot your man like ten times He's like one bullet

Would have done Because they couldn't afford to He was very stingy He wasn't he was He was a penny pincher He was a realist He wasn't walking around With big fur coat

And he hated lads With ADHD He was like You're too on the ball But this might be fun To end it This guy's been trying to end it this guy's been trying to end it for the last hour

I've got a pot noodle here I want to eat No he's trying to end it for the last like 10 years He just gets it every so often Someone gives him a compliment He's edging, go on What's the show? Let's say Netflix announced A Michael Collins mini series

Who would you want to see directing it Who do you want to see playing the big roles Now Yeah It might be fun to get Liam Neeson back To play like maybe Michael Collins's dad Or something like that Give him a row

Yeah, just Michael Collins No, Liam Neeson, does he have a son? That seems to be pretty big in Hollywood now. It does. Oh, no, yeah, Jesus. Leem Neeson named his firstborn son after our producer. Oh, yes, after Dan. Oh, yeah, should we get, yeah, get Dan Neeson.

You guys have a producer? Yeah. What? You got your old Robin? We say that he's here occasionally. Yes. Is he looking for work? We can't pay him, but we have a lot of content.

We pay them in the Michael Collins film. Yeah. Dan, our producer, one of my good friends. Seemingly, he was, like, on set, and they were doing some, like, shootout scene, and he would not stop crying, but it was a time of Ireland when they were, like, you've got to let people come down and look, because people, like, local people want to have a gawk. Wait, what set was this on? Michael Collins.

Oh, wow. Who was crying? Our friend, Dan. What, Dan was crying? Oh, he was a child, wasn't it? Yeah, he was a baby. Right. I thought he meant Liam Neeson was crying.

I was like, what? Her pussy. No, but he did. Pussy bro. Pussy, yo. But Liam came over to the crying child and was like,

I've got a particular set of skills. I can, I can just go shawl and was like rub a baby back and forth when he stops crying. What's his name? He's just falling asleep.

What's his name? It's Dan. Do you want Liam Neeson's firstborn child is called? Oh, Dan? Yeah. Oh.

good guess yeah that's a good story to be honest i was trying to think of to your question who'd be good cast and choices for devalera uh tom von loller yes there's a good yes i got the ball rolling

there is oh you've set in stone yeah yeah fucking come on hit me up midge you guarantee then the tom van loder would be devalera and aiden gillan would be michael collins he's too old though i know but that's what they do yeah you're right rtie would cream themselves or yeah

no sam keely it'd be a good you can have anyone lads think big here i'd have i'd have sam keely have anyone jack o'connor who's that he's some some con oh wait you mean do you mean jack renner yeah whoever like yeah the rugby player for lynch jacks jack redner might be good actually um timidie shardomane has both he's fucking cast he's in everything he's uh emo wonka now yeah hemo willie wonka okay emo wonka oh no i didn't know your man who played what the fuck is his name

your man who was Bob Geldof in the fucking the Wexford guy Donald Gleason No no no He'd be a good one too Actually yeah

Or Brian Look anyway Whatever You're like You're Ari and I'm the Asian No the Freddie Mercury Biopic Oh Robbie Malick

No no no The Irish guy who played Bob Geldof In Wexford Okay In what? He used to be in Raw If you ever watch

Raw. Never watch Raw. I wasn't allowed watch Raw. But there was a monon actress in Raw, Charlene McKenna. What up, girl, is you boy? I like the clinic. Think four levels down from that, but only in raw. Right. But he...

We're trying to make this a success here. You're not fair good at this. This guy might be big. He played fucking Bob Geldof. No, we want to establish names. We're not going to break someone. Like even Tom von Lawler, that's our, like, that's a small name again. That's our safety. If we

can't get who we really want. Charlie Cox had a really good. Charlie Cox, yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, he's a good Irish accent. He just did the best Irish accent of the entire series he was in. So who's directing this? Who do you want to see?

Probably Lenny Abrams some, you know? Yes. That'd be a good one. Lenny, get Lenny back? Lenny, that's a good choice, yeah. Yeah, yeah. He might make it too artistic, though. Maybe.

I'm looking for something a bit more gritch, you know. Okay. John O'Connor The Traveller Yeah, yeah Who's playing Kitty then Who's playing the piece of ass

Minage? Nicky Minaj No, who's the one? I mean Sandia It's kind of taken liberties with history But the one from Ken

that played the son's girlfriend Oh yeah Oh my God She's like so hot It's insane Man I would She like worked at a credit union And somebody walked in

Like hey you Come with me now You're gonna be in a TV show you look gorgeous and you don't have four inches of makeup on you're going to be a celebrity Searsherroman? Searsheronen? No, okay. That's the dumb choice. Sorry, no, thank you. I'm just saying it's the practical, practical choice. Yeah. No, I'm on Brian's side here

now. That girl, as soon as she became famous, was like, well, I'm not from Cardo. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, she has a real turnt code for you guys. I know where her fucking mother lives, okay? And also, is it. And I will act. We can end it on this now. Oh, I've got a story. You tell this. I might end on a letter story. Go ahead. Her air code is.

There's a lad in my school who showed her his cock when he was in primary school. She was also in primary school. It was all legal. Well, maybe legal is not the word, but, you know. It was all above board. Well, so my story is older than that and also is not sexual. But my brother was working. Why you can tell it then?

My brother was working in the Carlo's Cinema at the time. but she came up the da who was in he was in love hate as a side character he was in the clinic at the time as a main character but not great particularly his daughter was amazing

Sershia oh okay right right right but whenever she would come home then after like clearly within the years of like 13 to 15 16 or whatever she was going to St. Leo's Brian and Lobat they're the girls who wouldn't talk to him

I was literally about to say that every week James let's wrap this up I need to get to Leo's before lunchtime I got a pot noodle I'm going to win him over but he called up the cinema as she was going there

after like being Oscar nominated her dad called up and was like yeah Surchas's coming now so if you could just like you've got bouncers wherever it's a carlo cinema so they've got bouncers

Sure, yeah. Bulletproof glass. Starproof vest. Like an Asian convenience store in certain places. You're not showing the Oscars? You'll buy popcorn now and get out. God, I hate this cinema. Sersha, you sound different.

He said, no wrong. I'm going to get a game. I'm trying to win an Oscar. Yeah, see, you say it's bad, but you laugh every time. Go on. But then her dad called up going, Sarsha's coming up now to the cinema. If you could just like find a ways

she doesn't get like accosted by a lot of people. And nobody in Carole knows who she is. Yeah, nobody gave a shit. Wait, you were in, what are the films she was nominated for? Atonment. No one in Carole saw that. They were like, bad boys fight.

The local Carlo rendition. Yeah. But that she came up to the counter. Okay. And as her and. her friend came up there Oscar nominated and said well

I paid for the pizza so if you want to get the tickets I will listen and that's enough for me I'm glad you said that because that's enough for me you take the woman out of carlo but you can't take and dot dot dot

you're never too big to get a cinema ticket bought for you though in fairness now Oscar nominated or not the cinema is a fucking rip off we can all agree on that she got nominated You don't get paid for me nominated. Yeah, exactly.

What's she been up to recently? She had Lady Bird. No, and she's in a bunch. Little women? Little women, yeah. Little dimming or whatever it's got women, yeah. No, she's great. It's just that whole thing of a hope, Brian.

Also, you were meant to ride in Howard behind me. Oh, yeah, you're right. She's a fucking whore. Yeah, yeah. What age is she actually? A whole, legal, yeah, yeah. That's important.

Too old for Brian, anyway. She's older than you, right? I think so, yeah, yeah. by like a year or something like that yeah it's probably like 26 27 around then yeah she's not 30 yet right once she hits 30 she'll be working in that carlo's cinema that would be quite funny you see her mopping up like so oh well well well well well well well well well well no it's it's the main reason i have a problem with her it's not because of any of that it's because of the fact that as soon as she became famous that she had said i don't really know where i'm from did she say that

Yeah. She was like, I'm kind of New York. I'm kind of Dublin. I'm kind of Irish. But I'm being everywhere. And she never said Carlo. I saw her in Stephen Colbert. She didn't mention Carlo once. Yeah, one time. What about the chipper? You. Trailer. Cafe Roma right across the street. That's in between the two bins. I'm sitting you eyes like, foundry. Foundry. She like fucking pulls over top to show a Carlo Jersey and starts shouting Carlo Rising. You boys won't be happy. Our audience wouldn't have got that Okay, but we would have Yeah, yeah, it would have been for the people back home But yeah, I think we need to That's probably It's been a great time being the podcast guys

Yeah, let's do an outro Let's do an outro Let's do an outro But I just want a real quick One time shout out James Bourne Because he literally just text He texts me said, give me a shout out And I always do what he asks

Because we're all in constant reverence He has power over me Yeah, sexual psychological power He's got dirt on all of us But anyway, yeah yeah that's it it's been good crack this is gonna be weird now

because it's gonna be us being like hey cheers for letting us on your podcast and you'll be like thank you for letting us

on your podcast we say thank you and you say you're welcome get out oh cheers it's been great it has been fun

I'm I'll apologize now to the vast numbers of the audience who aren't gonna like us yeah check us out Spotify SoundCloud

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Find us We're up there We're on the line At Brian O'Toole comedian At James Caden comedian At Brian and James fuck each other You know what it is There

Instagram Twitter All the shit I'm not really on Twitter that much That's irrelevant Why you fucking That's probably for the best Twitter scares me I don't know

Twitter gets me in a weird mood I just want to start saying certain things Myself and Jason have been from Shout Talk History podcast You can find that On the links They'll all be out there Yeah I'll put the links on our stuff as well

Yeah yeah Paul Marshall like it see paul marsh is bringing me up oh sorry yeah he's bringing me and james over to his house but brian really had to argue for me too he was like come on man

he was like no my kid's in the house no i swear to god james has also been me too but uh no medication he's on he's all fucked up it's my blood pressure medication paul okay let's end it now

yeah cheers that was weird that's like oh we're just going to Paul Marsh like it's a play date he's starting a podcast we're going to record with him but anyway yeah that'll be fun that'll be fun I'm we're all a big fan of Paul he's definitely listen to us

because we're very fortunate he does he likes our podcast a lot I mean if I weren't for Paul Marsh I'd be dead probably let's be honest yeah it's true it's the only gigs I get in the city you know it's the only people he's the only one that like in four in the morning when I'm ringing around saying no I'm having the bad

thoughts again he'll all write them down write them down i'll let you open so thank you thank you for having us cheers thank you for having us yeah good luck goodbye everyone goodbye look