Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 154 : Batman Returns Again
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All right.
I'm recording.
I'm here now.
And you're not even holding a microphone.
I am holding it.
Now you have to position yourself on my bed with a hot cup of coffee in your hands.
Exactly.
I like the pressure, the excitement.
Kind of like the show 24.
I like it when you're...
Did you spill coffee on my bed?
I'm only on my notebook, so it's okay, yeah.
Surely, coffee's not too bad to spill it.
No, no.
I spill coffee all over the place.
You be honest, I don't...
I...
We've never really addressed how comfortable you are sitting on my bed,
considering how much...
jizz i've spread all over you'll spread it around do you oh it goes everywhere i have quite a i kind of i don't know my
the tip of my dick is sort of like a one of those watering cans for flowers you know
just holes in it it goes yeah yeah it's oh it's good for the environment yeah yeah no i'm pretty
good with my jizzin now i've cut back on my jizz quite a lot really uh you want a nofap no fap
just i've sometimes i'm just so i just love my job so much don't have time you know i've got other
love of my heart i don't have time for jizzin as well i don't have time for jizzin as
well.
Okay.
And if I do jizz,
I'll jizz in like a,
a kind of a cool way.
Yeah.
A way you wouldn't even understand,
you know?
Okay. Nice.
Yeah, exactly.
Into a man.
What?
No, no, not too a man's up.
We're actually watching some,
well, I'll give some context.
You're watching some gay sex.
But I looked up gay rap.
Yeah.
On the big TV for all the lads to see,
okay, I thought it'd be good male bonding exercise.
Yeah, I got a couple of bros over,
so Tuller was showing them what it is.
Yeah, I said before I was trying to watch the guy.
and I was like, move over, okay?
The gas for everyone.
Watch this.
But it was like, it was called Drive
and it was too big
corn-fed, white hillbilly
looking dudes in the garage
in the deep south.
So you think it's like,
oh, these are probably, you know.
They look like deliverance
and they're acting like deliverance.
Consensual deliverance, yeah.
But they started, you know what was
throwing me off?
They climbed into the back seat
of their pickup truck.
Yeah.
These guys were huge.
There was not a lot
room back there. There's not enough room for those
two big bears to start fucking. Oh, they
didn't need the room, though. They like it all nice and cozy.
They used to
squeeze it into giant spaces.
And man, when we
say they got back, it wasn't like they got back and kissed, I mean
they were full on fucking and they were going up
and down, up and down. It was pretty hardcore.
Here's the thing, I understand that though. When I look
at that, it makes sense to me. Sometimes when I watch
gay guys fuck, okay, I don't know what's
happening because they're like having missionary sex?
That seems like a load of work. Doesn't it have to
move things around?
I mean, not a s...
Think about that.
Okay, so two dudes banging missionary,
I mean, does his stomach not be hurting the other guy's balls, you know?
Exactly, yeah.
Thrusting against him.
It just seems like a lot, and like the one we watch...
The average male penis is 3.5 inches, so how does it even reach, you know?
If you're lucky.
I have the reports, I have the data.
Quantitive research
So apart from the gay porn we watched
Well, gay rap
Okay, it wasn't porn, okay
It was, in its rap is straight
So we're okay, we're saying
They weren't really rapping either
They actually weren't rapping at all
They were just fucking really
There was no musical element at all
Well, speaking of musical
sexy stuff
We watched Miss Saigon
Oh yeah man
Well, a little bit of it
Jesus, I didn't realize
It's the whole thing is just like
It's a whorehouse
And the pimp is like
telling all the U.S. soldiers, hey,
want to bang some vehicle these children?
It's great. Bang, the jail bait,
stuff like that.
And that's lit there's fucking, there's like tiddies everywhere.
There's no actual, like, you don't see actual nips.
Sucking and squel shit.
Yeah, yeah, just jizzing all.
There's a bunch of goo everywhere.
Yeah, the only way you jizz in your bed,
I jizz on stage.
It's a musical.
There's a lot of titty grabbing and ass grabbing.
I think the actors are having a pretty good time.
Now, I don't know what the plot.
I only put it on because I got back
late from a gig
and everyone else in the house is COVID
so it's kind of weird at the moment
I feel a bit like a little prince
because everyone has COVID in the house
so when I'm working
they can enjoy themselves
and live a normal life
but then I come by
no I'm like this is how what happens
I get in the bus and like you have 20 minutes
and like you have 15 minutes
you have 10 minutes
bitch you got five okay
three two one
and I'm at the window being like
three two one
and I burst in like Kramer
They have to run upstairs
so they don't give me COVID
because I'm the special prince
Yeah, yeah, yeah
And I have to house to myself then
And I can watch Miss Saigon
Downstairs as loud as they like
Yeah, so you have that whole lovely sitting room to yourself
Yeah, it's pretty swell, yeah
Yeah, yeah
I enjoyed while it lasts
Because once the COVID's gone
You're never getting in that sitting room again
That's why I'm trying to watch Miss Saigon now
Yeah
So I didn't know what the plot of it was
I thought it was like
I was getting confused like the king and I
so I thought it was going to be like some kind of old school thing
maybe like I kind of knew
set in Vietnam I thought maybe it was like
years ago when France was controlling it
and it'd be like kind of simple story
but not it's set in the whorehouse
the American troops are there
they want to bang and you have to pay extra
to bang the underage ones
and the ladies working there don't seem to be into it
there was a lot of crying
yeah exactly I was loving it yeah
I think I was loving a bit too much
you had to tell me to stop laughing at one stage
yeah there was a bit where there was a woman
just crying to herself
and you were
hysterical.
I was eating
popcorn
I was rolling
around in place.
Like Robert De Niro
in Cape Fair
smoking a big cigar.
Yeah, I liked it
a lot.
I'm going to watch the rest of it.
So far,
this will be fun now.
Like Marvel Minute,
Miss Saigon Minute.
Because it's two and a half hours.
So I'll watch it in pieces
and report back to you.
So so far,
they're in a whorehouse.
They're all singing
and dancing, but they're sad.
So American troops showed up
and the all American troops
were the fuck,
There's one, like, nerdy one who's like, oh, I'm in love with the girl, I don't want to fuck her.
Yeah, yeah.
I think he's about 19 or 37, some age.
Some of socially acceptable age.
Yeah, yeah, and he immediately falls in love at one of the...
He's 32 years old from Monaghan, and she's 17.
What's wrong with that?
Yeah.
What's wrong with it?
What?
I've got a fucking problem.
And instead of Vietnam, it's a chipper in Monaghan.
So, yeah, that's Miss I got.
I'll get back to you on more information.
I presume I'm going to guess now they fall in love
and the war gets in the way and they get separated
and maybe she becomes...
He's got to die, right? I reckon he dies.
Maybe like, I'll tell you what, they're on the chopper
and there's only room for one person left
and he gives the room to her.
And then the guy in the chopper's like,
who can suck the best dick?
Yeah.
Oh, harrow.
That's the American soldier.
Suck it's...
But man, the black guy, the black soldier,
He was really going for it.
He was bending her over and stuff.
Dry humping her age.
Yeah.
That's why I love the musicals.
You can sexually assault women on a stage with lights pointed at you.
Everyone's watching.
And you get away with it, Scott Free.
The problem is now, if I go to any musical, I think it's that.
So if I go to, like, fiddler on the roof, I'm like, where's the sexy Vietnamese girls?
Diddler on the roof.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It's an old joke.
snowed no it's not i just came up with it there
yep i don't know what i think it's about jews and russia but i know in my
head it's diddlers yeah uh so
you didler on the poof oh there i approved it okay move we're moving on
no no i'm ashamed i demand to be recognized sorry what else i think what works with
us okay is sometimes you don't say something funny i don't fake laugh
i think that helps a lot some people like the kind of fake laugh and makes everything
seem fake you know and you do it as well i'm not being mean to you
No, I do it a lot.
Yeah, and you correct me
and people love that,
you know,
they love it when you get a bit rough,
you know,
he likes it rough.
Think of an X-line,
come on.
Finding it tough.
Boom,
done.
Just got,
yeah,
grabbing by the scruff.
You just got out musical.
Lough,
scoff, scoff,
scoff, scoffal.
I'm not sure you're really
capturing the majesty
of the art for all there.
I wouldn't very good eight mile.
So you've had a good week.
I know you were doing some stuff
you don't really want to be talking about.
Yeah, nothing to read it to there.
You were doing stuff you said
if they found out you'd be ruined.
Yes, well, luckily, there weren't a few loose edge,
but then, well, it all seems to have resolved itself
rather nicely.
Yeah.
So, we're going to talk about Batman.
Okay.
You watch weirdly enough.
I watch Batman
Returns and you watch Batman.
The 1989 with Jack Nicholson.
So we can go talk about those films
and we have a few other things
talk about before that.
I'm feeling okay at the moment
a few things went wrong with me.
I was drinking the last two days.
Oh wow.
Checking yourself into the Betty Ford clinic.
I'm out of control.
I'm an animal.
I'm Hunter S. Thompson.
I'm wild.
I was more animal, but man.
Yeah.
Yeah, well,
crem'd him on two nights in a row.
Oh, I'm a beast.
And port and sherry, okay?
No, I did.
We did a work.
I don't want to get into it too much because, you know, it's a work thing.
But I did have a work event where we all drink whiskey and I drank little whiskey.
Then afterwards, I thought it'll be fun to drink some cocktails.
So I got, like, the most expensive cocktails in the place.
Okay.
And I was like, this is shit.
I don't feel anything off this.
But then I had mixed beer in it.
I started to feel a bit dizzy.
Oh, right.
Yeah.
But I think it was okay.
but I didn't do anything too embarrassing
but my standards are so low now
where I'm like I didn't shit myself
I didn't say the N word
so
I'm pretty good here
I'm in control baby
I mean a employee of the month
yeah
yeah no it's good
I don't remember getting home
I remember we went into wheelings
I remember like I was going to wheelings
I was like I know Dwayne Dugan
I was trying to be a big you know
trying to be a big shot yeah
you're really throwing that name
right there I was yelling at the
you're worthless you know
I know Dwayne Dugan
gonna have you killed
he'd probably do it for me
and Richie Bray
he owes me a favour
yeah Dick Cheese
me and Dick Cheese
a regular pals
Actually Dick Cheat Richie Bree saw me
Yeah I shouldn't call him Dick Cheese
Richie Bree saw me there
Oh he was in Whelands
But the day after he was like
Oh you in Wieland
He looked at they fucked
Oh really?
Yeah yeah
And I was like what you fucking mean by that
I know Dwayne Dugan
She's telling you what I fucking ruin you
You're cunt
Yeah
I have this like goodbye image
you know, I can't let them know about
Dark Tool
Ritchie's a good lad
I've got a good time
he's a DJ in Wheelands
he was DJ
he was going
Wicu BicuwaW West
Yeah
Yeah
That's the only song
He knows how to DJ
And he doesn't have a like
He sings it like
It's a cappella
It's acopella
Brickada
Yeah
And he's still moving his hands
But there's not on there
Like
He know he's three
Two
Wow
Wow
Well yeah
I had a good time
I don't remember too much
About being
I remember like
I get this way
where I just kind of walk around
the circles a lot
Yeah you do
I always go
Hey man how you do
I'll talk you later
and I'll leave
But there's nobody actually
Yeah I just go to a corner
and look around
I put my headphones in
and watch
listen to a podcast
Oh Bill Simmons
You saved me once again
You know Bill Simmons
Yeah
Because you keep talking about
Yeah he's good
He's a Celtics fan
Yeah
Actually I think he produced
he produced that
documentary
yeah he does all
the music box
and 30 for 30
stuff like that
yeah yeah yeah
so he's a cool dude
bit a bit weird
bit annoying
I don't like
he always talks about
the strongest son is
I don't like that
yeah he's like
oh my son's so big
what's his
background
his big muscles
where does he
you couldn't have
got my son's ripped
yeah
he's so tight
and he knows
he do you
yeah
sometimes I look at
my son in the pool
I think
oh if I was
oh wow
if I was a gay rapper
I tell you
what
was whose story?
Yeah, Bill Simmons.
What's his background?
This only happened in America.
Yeah.
So he was a big sports fan,
working in a bar,
okay?
I think he went to college for journalism,
and he heard about this new thing
called the internet.
And you know,
back then,
like,
the internet,
that's for queers.
Yeah.
And he was like,
no, I think I might be able
to do something with this.
So he started a newsletter kind of thing.
It's ironic because newsletters
are back now.
Okay.
I'm subscribed to the J-Lo newsletter.
what so that's just like a weekly update of what they're doing
and what jalo's up to yeah is that really necessary with uh you know
no you get stuff that like uh social media but you get it straight directly from the jalo's mouth you know
okay so like i know now she's you're subscribed to jalo's newsletter yeah exactly weekly newsletter
yeah it's 1499 in months are you serious no i'm just no it's only it's only like about six
euro or so that's still too much no it's good though you find out all sorts of things you know
the way she really loves
dojika
and she loves to do yoga
okay
good
well now I know
yeah
she won't spend
and she showed
a picture of her
wedding ring
is she married
she's getting married
to Ben Affleck
yeah
the one day
years before
I know
and I did
what is this podcast
Benefer
yeah
Benefer
yeah I'd like to
benefit
her over
and Affle
yeah
I'd like to
benefit
his cock in my
age
I like to fuck
lack him
and not
fuck that cunt
going to back flack you in the face
with my god you fucking
fruit
bring Casey in here
I'm going to give him a taste
of his own medicine
anyway so Bill Simmons
he started in
it's not a big story anything
he started a newsletter
about sports
but the whole thing is like
you know a lot of times
back then sports writers
they were like
we are reporting on sports
and giving our opinions
and it's a great honor
to report in the great sport
of basketball
or baseball
you know the sport of greatness
and we transcribe that greatness
and putting on to the written word
and he was just like you know
I'm the Boston sports guy
I write about Boston I think this guy sucks
that guy sucks as well
Boston rules
This guy's a fucking queer
He's a queer
He don't even drink bees with the fellas
He's fucking weird
Yeah exactly
And now he's changed
I think he was a little bit
He was never like two
He never wouldn't be like
You know black people shouldn't drive
You know he wouldn't be like that okay
I think he would make fun of people's faces
stuff like that
he might say like oh his girlfriend's small tits
you know stuff like that
oh yeah but he's he's that was like him
during his wild days
now he's all mainstream he's corporate man
now he's all like you know
oh Woodstock 99 was bad
yeah yeah yeah people shouldn't be attacked
your music festivals
you know there shouldn't be an entire festival
dedicated to sexually assaulting women
which seems to be
did anybody go there for the music
for the love of God
so that's why he's like
now and boss people are like you forgot your roots man
you'll fucking
show out
so yeah he got that for years
and then he got so popular
that ESPN
got him because they had a new website now
and they're like hey we'll throw him on
yeah okay
so he was working for ESPN for years
and then he left them
and started his own thing called the ringer
the ringer podcast network
and that got bought by
Spotify for like a couple
of
hundred mill or something like that yeah not rogan numbers but big money okay money yeah a lot of
networks have been bought out recently like it's weird rogan they focus on that but like last podcast on
left that got bought out by spotify oh man what did they get 20 quid each uh just a packet like uh
chilies gift for certificate can we use this in any chilies no just any chilies in road
island that's it during during rush hour okay i think we're
made of money? Yeah. Pat
McAfee, I was showing you him. He's like
a sports guy as well. Yeah. He did like
a, I think a billion dollar deal with like
some gambling company. He did so much money in podcasting.
We're not getting any of it. We're not getting
anything. I noticed we've lost
a few patrons. We have yet.
Oh, fuck. I'm so
fucked. I am so
fucked here. You have no idea.
I've been my 30s. I'm fucking ruin.
Watching Batman. Oh, I was watching
Batman. Stealing my grandmother's muscle
relaxers, just to get a buzz
on. I'm dying out
here, could you help me, please?
Jesus Christ.
Oh, before we go on to Batman, two
things, okay? I want to talk with the Brooklyn
Shooter and Noel Edmonds.
Are they connected?
Well, allow
Detective Bryant to
come elementary, my dear
Cadden. I think you'll
find.
Yeah, I'll talk about the Brooklyn one first.
There's a big Brooklyn shooting there. No one
died.
Yeah, on the subway, right?
Yeah, on the subway.
Now, thankfully, it sounds
like this guy was a bit of tarred,
so he didn't really know
what he was doing, okay?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He, uh, I think,
I don't know what race he was.
He was black.
Yeah, I didn't really,
I only listened to radio stuff about him.
Yeah.
But apparently he hated, uh,
Eric Adams,
who's a new mayor of New York.
And he's a new cool downlow funky mayor,
you know,
yeah, he's subscribed to the J-Lo newsletter too.
Yeah, me and him together.
I've heard, you know, he's, he's, he's a bit funky.
He loves, uh, he uses basketball
metaphors a lot
So he's like
Yo, this New York
here we gotta throw
it from the free throw line
Is he a white guy?
No, black guy
Yeah, yeah
And he's like, you know
When it comes to freedom
We've got to hit the backboards
You know what I'm saying
And they all cheer
Oh, wow
Okay
And he knows what he's saying
But it's fun
And he parties
Yeah
He's in nightclubs, you know
He's just getting
So fucking wasted
Oh my God
I have to get up so early tomorrow
Holy shit
Is that ketamine?
Oh, I can't believe I'm doing ketamine right now.
I have to do mayor shit.
Oh, fuck.
Oh, my God.
I got to meet both Cuobos tomorrow.
Those guys suck.
Oh, shit.
Where did I park my car?
I'm so, fuck.
I should even be fucking driving.
I'm going to the drive-throw.
I'm getting Wendy.
Get off.
Get off of him.
Yeah.
I haven't seen.
you want to see more of that
come to live show
but uh
yeah so this this shooter okay
hated Eric Adams
and hated women
okay
real big
uh
woman here
I think he
I'm not sure
of insult or not
I know he made loads
of people
were trying to understand
what his like
ideology is
and I think he was like
can't a guy
just be a mental spastic
and shoot people
yeah
what kind of society
are we living in
and where everything has to have
a political
ideology
Yeah, I don't like how it's like
You have to like go into all his tweets
And they find like
Oh, you know he liked
Oh, he likes Tim and Eric
Oh, there's a connection right there
Yeah
I don't swim
We found an aquitine hunger force
tattoo on his right
Meat Ward
He had Meat Ward
tattooed in one of his balls
And then you have to have this like
Dumbarico's like
Is America ready to be done with Meatwad
Have we moved on as a culture
a society
America's long
troubled history
with meat what
you don't know
man you don't know
what's like
yeah
you seen them
remember that thing
about
after Will Smith
slapped
someone wrote that column
or was like
are we done
with stand up
oh really
yeah yeah
yeah it was me
I wrote that
are we don't
stand up
please
please
I'm
oh no I didn't see that
yeah
someone was just like
you know
we as a people
we should be
go beyond this
like Twitter's better
in stand-up anyway.
Wow.
We have memes now.
Okay.
So, you know the way, like,
stand-up's like the locomotive.
And Twitter's like drones.
Think about that for a minute.
Yeah, well.
It's weird when I meet someone who actually like stand-up.
Like, there are a couple,
there's people doing stand-up now, like in the scene.
They're like 19, 20 years old.
Yeah.
That's crazy to me.
And they're full of piss and vinegar.
And they're like, man, it's great.
Man, we're making people feel good.
And I'm like, what's wrong with you?
You just have a glass bottle ready to go.
Yeah, like, it just, it does seem to me to be like a real old school art form, but it's just one of those things that the live, it's the same as a band.
You're never going to get rid of live music.
People are always going to enjoy the live experience.
Like, I have to kind of take myself out of myself from it, if that makes sense.
You know what I mean.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
We're like, step back from it.
So sometimes I'll be at a show and happened recently, I went to a show you were on and I wasn't on.
Yeah.
So I could just sit back and enjoy myself.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I was watching these acts
and not to be mean
but like I've seen all their acts
you know
I've seen all this
you know
I was thinking like man
if I'd never seen stand up
before it's walked in
I'd be like
this is insane
yeah
what's going on
like I don't know what's going
like he just coming up
with that on this
what he's he's doing
crowd work
how's that work
he's just talking
talking about me
and what a genius I am
better be about me
and not Ben Firth
I just fucking Scott is
yeah he's the new
he's new daddy
yeah he's great
and a very nice
guy.
Yeah, he is kind of
like a better version
of you in a way
not to be mean
or anything
but you know he is
the Scottish version
yeah
some nicer
more pleasant version
he is very nice
isn't he
funnier
it's almost like
it was two forks
in a road
yeah yeah
and I chose
Scottish
I can't even get a spot
in a monkey barrel
you know
anyway
yeah Ben's a good guy
we like Ben
so what was I even
talking about
oh the terrorism
yeah
so this guy
terrorism and stand up
yeah so this guy
this guy hated
Ben Vert
all right
and he was like
the Scottish
cunt
so he was
he went on
the train with
some guns
okay
yeah
now there is a
conspiracy
that this is
all fake
we'll get
to that in the
minute
oh I like this
so
now you're
stretching
you're getting ready
yeah
yeah
downward
facing dog
so what he did
is kind of
dumb
he probably
thought he probably
thought
to the
cinematic
he threw
smoke bombs
down on
the train
and started
firing
was he
sorry
was he on the
platform
or in the
train
I don't know
okay
I haven't done much research.
No, you clearly haven't.
Most of this just occurred
on my dreams, all right?
A premonition.
I had a premonition
the night after it happened.
I tried to warn them,
but they didn't want to hear it.
They thought I was crazy.
I'm like the precogs.
Amnostra shamans.
So, um, yeah,
so he threw the smoke bombs down
and started firing.
I believe on the train station,
I believe.
I have to put money.
On the platform.
Yeah, yeah.
So he threw a,
smoke bombs and then started firing.
So he couldn't see anything. He couldn't see where...
So nobody died. No one died. He was like,
my eyes, help!
Oh, my sinus is! Where's my inhaler?
I think he shot like 10 people, but
nobody died. Yeah. And they got...
He's been arrested, like, alive, I think.
Yeah, some cool guy got him, okay?
Do you see him he's the local celebrity now?
No, what? There's some guy, I think his name's like,
it's something like Taliban, but it's not Taliban.
It's something like, let's say, Ben,
Talban
Okay
Okay
Something like that
Or maybe Talban
Wherever it's there
Some guy like
Saw him
I think stopped him
Okay
And he was on the news
Being like
Yeah
I was like I was like
I was like I was like
Yeah
You're fucking awesome
Dude
Oh okay
Yeah
Crisis actors
Probably yeah
Yeah
Definitely
Definitely
It was George Clooney
They're not even
Try anymore
He can't get work
Yeah
Yeah
He's really
Like a groucho mask
Okay
So what's the
conspiracy that? Oh, there's just a few things
where he just perfectly dropped his ID
on the ground. Oh.
And then they couldn't find... Also, all the cameras
in the station broke down at once.
Always with the cameras breaking
at these things. Isn't it?
And then the police, I think, handle it weird.
And, like, they couldn't find him for ages and I think the guy
actually called up. Like, hey, I'm here.
Yeah, yeah. So they could find him.
Okay. This is interesting now. I must look
into this. Yeah, I will look into it more.
It's what my life needs now. More conspiracies.
But what's the...
What, why, why would...
It's militarised the police, I believe,
and something like that.
You know what?
Because the police have been getting
such a bad rub of it recently, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
You need a couple of these
every now and again just to be like,
hey.
Oh, you want to defund the police?
Yeah.
And there's spastics with guns?
Yeah, who's going to stop the spastics?
They were getting a lot of shit
because while this is going on,
all the police were busy
kicking homeless people out at some place.
Oh, good.
So it kind of was bad optics in a way, yeah.
Yeah, sure.
Who were the kicking them out of?
Sorry, I kind of, uh...
Oh, yeah, sorry.
sorry, you kind of went like that.
Yeah, yeah, but you
like, instead of carrying on
and covering it,
you just froze,
dead silence.
Yeah.
Let the listener hear me go,
just fucking hawking a big
fleb one.
And you're like,
I better stay quiet.
So they don't miss this.
Yeah, I'll say quiet
or he'll ruin the podcast.
Okay.
So, yeah, well, what were you asking me?
I got distracted by your noises.
No, it was just that.
It was an unusual noise.
It wasn't a full cough, it wasn't a full sneeze
It was just kind of like a thing
Anyway, so they were kicking the home people out
Because they're homeless
And the home people just getting away of everything
So, okay, yeah
Didn't kill anyone, so he's a loser
Yeah, he's a loser
He's a failure, better look next time, buddy
What was the other thing you were going to talk about?
Noel Edmonds
Noel Edmonds
So I have to give this now
They're not connected by the way
But you know Noel Edmins killed a guy
What?
Yeah, I remember we're learning about this downstairs
Last week
Were we?
Yeah, well you, I was anywhere
I was paying attention.
You were probably playing with a ball of string or some shit.
No, so Noel Edmonds used to have a show.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
This is a couple of weeks ago.
Shane put it off.
Oh, it's been in my head since.
When we were drinking.
Yeah, yeah.
So Noel Edmonds used to be a show.
Gaslighting me there, folks.
Do you hear that?
Go on.
Yeah.
It's a bit of fun, isn't it?
Yeah, so he had a show where it's like, basically like Jim will fix it.
It was like, oh, do you want to do something?
I'll let you do it.
Yeah.
So some guy was like, he wanted to.
drive a car over
like a evil caneval
stunt stuff? Yeah, so it's all kind of stunt shit
all right. And let's say like any
member of the public, any dumb member
the public can be like, oh yeah, I want to like drive a
bus out of a
helicopter and then land
in the ocean. Can you do that? And he'd be like
yeah, let's do it. In a shark's mouth.
Do we need to practice it?
I will get it in one. Don't worry.
So no idea was like, yeah, let's do it. Great.
And the reason they're doing this is because
there was a lot of competition from other channels
I don't know, I think maybe they're on ITV
and maybe Channel 4 was coming, but there was more
competition for channels, so now
that's to be more extreme and edgy.
Yeah, just like over the top.
Yeah, so they did loads of stunts, and one of stunts
that went really bad, okay, is
there was a guy in a car and he wanted
to jump over, like, six cars, that's it, okay?
Like, go over a ramp or whatever.
So they tried it with a stuntman first, and the car
obviously didn't go over six, it's going to hit
a car and flipped over. I think it turned out
that the ramp itself was
like designed wrong, so like,
the dimensions wrong.
Or they make all this shit
in like an afternoon
like just make a ramp
without doing any measurements
or anything.
He just went on
to the set of art attack
and just like here
this looks like a ramp
let's take this.
There's still fucking nails
in it and shit.
Yeah, yeah.
Didn't the art attack
guy kill himself as well?
No,
was the guy from Smart
killed himself.
His girlfriend died
beforehand.
Good.
You know the art attack guy
he didn't kill himself.
Man.
Yeah.
Here's one I made earlier
because I'm not a pussy.
So like
the stunt man
fucking crap.
Instead of being like, okay, let's not do this.
They're like, okay, the stuntman failed.
Let's let's let the guy do it.
Remember the public do it.
He'll probably do it.
Beginners luck and all that, you know?
He's an alcoholic.
He should be able to do it.
And then he crashed as well.
And he was okay.
But they do this live.
Do it live.
And so they have to cut back a studio
and Noel Edmund's being like, oh.
Well, we'll check on him there on.
Oh, fuck, I'm on fire.
Oh, oh.
Oh, spot to bother there, is there?
Oh, good way he's wearing his seat belt
as his head is decapitated
so they got away with that
and apparently one of the producers
is like I'm fucking done here
man we are on the edge here
I'm fucking done it no Edmund's like coward
pussy oh brood
so the next one
was very dangerous
I don't know why this guy wants this
but he wants to be suspended
in a glass box from a crane
and then get out of the box
before a timer drops the glass box
What the fuck?
Yeah.
This guy's just like the most elaborate suicide of all times.
Yeah, he's just some guy with a big beer belly and a, you know, a wonky eye.
He's like, yeah, I want to do that, yeah.
I want to be like to eat and hunt.
Yeah.
So they try this and there's a number of problems.
So one thing he had a few points beforehand.
That's where to God, yeah.
This guy's a legend, man.
What a fucking legend.
Second.
Bitch a judge going to shoot.
Yeah.
Don't get too shaky.
Do you know what I mean?
Secondly, like, they didn't like run through just like hung it up there like, yeah.
That looks okay, right?
There had no guy up there to help him.
Like no like, you know, professional.
No like safety in that or anything.
Just had him get up there.
It's demented, isn't it?
And all the time, Noel Edmunds is looking like, this is great.
This is great.
Yeah.
I'm fucking, this is, well, did he have Mr. Blobby, didn't he?
Yeah, yeah.
Blobby, yeah.
I think Mr. Blobby
was after all this.
Yeah, it's crazy.
Yeah.
What was the whole thing?
He was just like this big blob of retarded shit that would pour around fondling people against the way?
Fondling young women.
Yeah, yeah.
Just grab a their...
Oh, Mr. Blobby's got his hands on you.
Yeah.
Oh, Mr. Blobby's going to school again.
Nah.
The new production of Miss Saigon starring Mr. Blobby.
so he gets up there and there's like nine things go wrong and the box just drops with him in it
and he dies and he smashes on the ground and dies yeah that's amazing live as well no i think they
caught i think they were doing a rehearsal one it wasn't live anyway oh okay this is the i think
they were doing a rehearsal one for the live one and he died during that there's no footage of it
i don't believe oh i see so no edmonds okay so it's no edmonds another guy working on the show
the guy who isn't no edmonds i think he became like an alcoholic and just like
It just ruined his life.
He was like, oh, it's a fucking shame.
Yeah, we killed a guy.
Edmonds was like, oh, that's a spot of bother, isn't it?
And then went on Wogan, like, three months there, being like, yeah, it was terrible, yeah, but, you know, we live in there and don't we, some of us, too.
And he was talking about how hard it was, you know, like, yeah, people are very mean to mean the press.
Thankfully, uh...
They called me things like naughty Noel.
Yeah.
There's no call for that, is there?
A bit too far, is it?
And the family, oh, don't get me starred.
Wee, where!
I got Mr. Blobby after them.
Bunch of your penny pitchers.
There's not going a few quaid, weren't they?
Yeah.
Yeah, I was okay, though.
I was with my girlfriend.
Big titch, yeah?
You know what it is?
Like, Terry, yeah?
Terry Wagwab.
I didn't make that up.
That was like a recurring sketch.
I can't remember watch show, but...
I think Peter Serifinovitz had a sketch
were...
Yeah, it might be than that, yeah,
but it was like,
it's me, Terry Waguam.
And, uh, yeah.
So that's,
that's Noel Edmonds there.
And then he just like
scurred by,
he was fine.
And then deal or no deal.
And he became so rich off that
because he could sell the format
then to America.
Did he design the,
he came up with it?
I believe so, yeah.
Oh, man,
if he didn't sign himself,
he was a producer,
so he gets a big chunk of it.
That's awesome.
Yeah, and then...
At one stage,
he was going to buy the BBC.
There was rumors about that,
yeah.
Really?
Nice.
It was like,
he's very part
it's just
Mr. Blobby
24-7
yes
finally
for this generation
we need this
that'll fix them
all right
so we'll talk about
Batman then
we're like half an hour
in this is great
oh before we talk
about Batman
I'll talk about the shadow
oh okay
I watched the shadow
with Alec Baldwin
because the reason
I was interesting
this is because after
Batman came out
the Jack Nicholson one
right yeah yeah
just loads of copycat movies
because it was a huge success
It was one of the biggest movies ever at the time
And unprecedented
For something like this
They're like oh shit
We've got loads of comic book characters
Yeah
I mean like because before that
Like what what
Like maybe the fucking
Like Christopher Reeves Superman
Was there any other real franchise
And even that kind of died on the vine
Yeah
That guy fucking
Oh I have to get my horse
Oh great yeah
Dear Noel Edmund
I would like to ride my horse
Yeah why not
Go for it Chris
see me right
yeah
you ever see
Chris Jericho
get all
pissy
about the
no
I think it's
Opie and Anthony
okay
and Jim Norton
makes a joke
about
Chris
and Jericho
gets proper
like pissy
about it
really
I think his mother
is also
paralyzed
oh well
fuck off
yeah
but he gets all
like yeah
okay
yeah great
we're making fun
about that now
are we
are we
anyway
so there was a number
of copycat
movies after
the Batman
came out
So they were like, the Batman's popular.
What about The Shadow?
Everyone loves The Shadow.
You know The Shadow.
Remember when your little kid running around playing The Shadow?
The Shadow is the name I gave to the bad thing that came into my room when my parents had adult parties.
And he came in smelling of cigarettes and booze.
And it was Alec Baldwin.
Hey, you little freak.
Come here.
You pig
You fat little pig
You're disgusted
Who am I
I'm the guy
With the $40,000
Rolex
That's been shoved
In your little ass
Your little fruit
So yeah
The Shadow
Yeah
So the shadow's interesting
Because he came
Before Batman
He's a radio character
Okay
I was thought
It was like a newspaper
A radio first
Then became
Newspaper comic strip
Then comic book
Kind of like the
Pulp Noir stuff
Exactly yeah
He won the
first to really do that.
Him and like the Phantom
Yeah, I remember the Phantom
movie with Billy Zane.
Yeah, now I try to watch that
but I watched it on
there's a website
go on to the fine
pirated movies
and I started watching
the Phantom of the Opera
Oh, how long into it
did you get?
A lot, yeah.
I was extra confused
I just watched Miss Saigon before
so I was like,
where's the hoars?
It's that Billy Zane
playing piano?
Yeah.
So the Shadow case
started off the radio
thing, okay, and it'd be more like an
ontology thing, we'd be like, hello, I'm the shadow
today's story of
crime and terror.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then eventually...
A bunch of Vietnamese
move into the neighborhood.
Not on my watch.
Oh, no, it's a shadow.
We had to rot.
Oh!
Yeah, no.
Yeah, none of that.
Of course, yeah, yeah.
Well, when was it like the 30s?
Yeah.
Yeah, I can't imagine it was two PCs.
It wasn't, it wasn't.
It wasn't.
But then eventually, people
we want to see more
the shadow himself
so then the shadow
became the actual character
in the radio
and Orson Wells
actually played the shadow
for a year
Oh, that's cool
Yeah, okay
A lot of actors did it
but only Orson Wells
is the one you'd actually know
Yeah
So he became very popular
comic strip
A few like movies back in the day
I mean like the 50s
Okay
Yeah yeah yeah
Like black and white movies
Were like text on the screen
That kind of shit
Okay
And more radio plays
And it was really really popular
And then kind of died down
But it did influence the Batman
Okay
So all the early Batman
strips were basically just like copies
of shadow scripts okay
and um it was
it was only huge bob can is a fucking
piece of shit oh yes exactly
he's a dog no he actually is
he actually is a dog shit human being
really yeah yeah yeah apparently
I think Bill Finger invented
nearly everything and then Bob Kane
all the comic book guys are pieces of shit that robbed off
someone else okay basically the way it worked is
to be like an alpha guy basically like yourself
okay I just come in
yeah I'm here being like well what about a bad
man character yeah i thought of that
yeah i'm great yeah i just take your
notebook oh miss say god
yeah i'll make that funny
oh but i can credit me for
shut up nerd
pussy
yeah
i just take it i'm like
it's it's my place really
it's what i deserve
so the shadow very popular
and then by about like the 60s
dead yeah no one gave a fuck
All the hippies were tripping on
mesculine.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So then no more shadow,
but then Batman's big
and it's like, okay, we got the shadow,
that's cheap.
Yeah.
Let's make the shadow
with Alec Baldwin.
Do you know anything about the shadow?
No, not at all.
Nothing.
Okay, well, you know the way Batman's cool?
Yeah, well, yeah, okay.
Picture, bad.
So I'm going to give you some comparisons here.
So the shadow isn't Bruce Wayne.
Right.
It's Lamont Cranston.
Lamont Cranston.
Yeah.
Okay.
Okay.
Even better, isn't it?
Extra syllables need extra action.
I'm confused.
Okay.
So, Lamont Cranston is like an air...
Where is Lamont from?
What...
La Cranston?
Yeah.
I know he's Alec Baldwin anyway, okay?
So I believe he's like an army man, a soldier man, okay?
And then for the American army, but then he goes AWOL and becomes the head of
Chinese drug syndicate.
Oh, what?
Yeah.
Again, imagine this is during the time of extreme anti-Asian hate.
Sure, yeah.
Okay, so, Yawai Batman has those of cool villains.
Yeah.
The shadow is Chinese people.
Oh, really?
Yeah, yeah.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, and they are very crafty and sinister.
Yes, they are.
And it's our duties Americans to hunt them down.
So Lamont Cranston becomes the head of a Chinese drug gang, okay?
So now he's evil.
okay and he does opium and he hangs out with uh with hookers sweet yeah and he kills innocent people
yeah and they have like some guy being like oh mr lamont cranston please do not burn down my village
shut the fuck up you god damn beater yeah that's a not right he's a shadow yeah and then he just kills him
yeah and there's one bit where like he's like oh mr shadow please don't shoot me he's like i won't shoot you
but my guards will ha ha ha ha ha and it kills him there right so this is
all like the first like three minutes of the film
okay so he's like bad okay he's got
long hair and he's kind of sexy looking
he's like oh I love crime
this is like young Alec Baldwin
and he's still a piece of age
you know what I've noticed he's never actually fully
shirtless in the movie
when he is shirtless he's got his belt up above
his belly button oh like Robert Mitchum
yeah so like Richard Mitchum used to do that
you know hike the belt up yeah so I'm not too
sure how ripped he's not really ripped
he's got dad bad but he's got good
he's got the hair that helps
a lot.
A hairy chest.
Yeah,
yeah,
exactly.
Yeah.
Oh,
yes.
So, in the first
five minutes...
Did you have a hairy chest?
I don't.
Yeah, I know.
You're Alec Balls.
I know.
I don't have a hairy chest.
Oh, you can get
like surgery done.
I've got some wisps.
You know,
some people get like top surgery.
You could do that.
Yeah.
That'd be fun.
So,
um,
then some other Chinese guy shows up
and waxed Alec Ball
in the head,
all right?
Then Alec Ball and wakes up
in a castle and the Chinese guy's like,
oh,
I want you to be good now
because only a man
who has seen evil can be truly
good. You know the evil that lurks
within men. Okay. And Alec Baldwin's like
Yeah, okay. Whatever.
Have you got more heroin?
Yeah. Suck your dick, please. Come on.
So then he moves back to New York, right? And this is
like a kind of funky kind of retro
New York. I'm not sure when it's meant to be
set, I think, like, maybe the 50s or so.
Also, his uncle was like the Commissioner Gordon.
Okay. Yeah. And he was just
like in the military. He's not rich or anything?
Oh, he's rich. Yeah. He's a playboy.
Okay.
Like Bruce Wayne.
He walks around his suits and stuff like that
Yeah, yeah
Now, you know the way
Batman is a Batmobile?
Yeah
The Shadow has something much cooler
He's got a taxi
Driven by Peter Boyle
What?
Yeah, Peter Boyle is the taxi man
A wise cracking taxi man
Wow
So then whenever the shadow needs him
Peter Boyle's right there
Be like, all right boss
And he always says something like funny
Like oh like you know what
There's explosion he's like oh quiet night
It was like dinner at my mother's house
she's a cunt
Oh my word
So the other way
Batman
He can like
You know
He doesn't have actually
Superpowers
But he's got incredible strength
And
Intelligence
And he's a great detective
Yeah
The shadow, okay
Can turn invisible
How
Chinese secrets
What
Chinese magic
Yeah
No
Yeah
No
Ancient Chinese secrets
So he can turn
Invisible
And invisible
And invisible again
How does he
Enable
It just
Just wants to
Just can...
Yeah.
Yeah.
So you can only see his shadow, get it?
Oh, so he doesn't...
Does he even have to do a spell?
Like, Jing-dong, don't...
No, no, no.
He does speak Chinese in the film.
Wanga Gangnam stars.
You know, it's funny, he speaks Chinese in it,
and he's probably accurate Chinese,
but when Baldwin says he's like,
this seems offensive.
So he can turn invisible.
He can also gaslight people.
Oh.
So he can control men's minds.
Just men?
Oh, no, and women as well.
Some women.
We'll see later on.
Yeah, you don't need powers for that.
I'm all right, lads.
Oh, just dangle something shiny in front of them.
Oh, they'll butt-like putty in your hands, lads.
Do you know what I mean?
All right, they're soon.
See, wants a little trinket, do you?
Well, you know what you've got to do for daddy?
Come on.
I'm the shadow.
Haven't you seen the shadow, you dumb bitch?
Anyway.
Okay, so he can gaslight people.
So kind of like a Jedi.
So here's an example.
So he's talking to his uncle, the commissioner,
okay?
Commissioner's like,
oh,
this damn shadow is everywhere.
I got to sell up a special task force to get him.
And Alec Baldwin's like,
no, you don't.
He's like, oh, you're right.
And my dick is huge.
Oh, your dick's so big,
Alec Baldwin.
I know.
And he also has guns.
Oh, okay.
He's got two guns.
Yeah, Chinese magic.
Does it do the trick for that, does it?
Also, this is very odd.
I've no idea why.
but the shadow has a mask over like the bottom of his face
covering his mouth okay
just his mouth yeah you can see like his head
his forehead and his nose all right his eyes obviously
but he has a fake nose
what
yeah this is very silly he's got fake nose
now it's not like a plastic nose it actually appears
on him when he becomes a shadow
and when he takes off the mask the nose shrinks
what yeah
Oh
Is there
An anti-Semitic
Yeah
You know stealing money
I'm in the shadow
I'll drop that now
Maybe it's a reference
Like maybe the scarlet pimple nail
Something like that
But yeah
The what?
The scarlet pimple nail
Pimple nail
Pimple nail
Scarlet Pimpernel
I don't know what it is
Yeah
We're both dummies here
Okay
Don't treat me like shit
All right
Don't use your
shadow powers on me
but yeah he's got a big fake
nose when he comes to shadow right
and then when he takes off the mask it goes back to normal
so that's all
his powers there how big does it get is
like Steve Martin? No
maybe just like an extra like
30% okay so
it becomes more pointy okay and sinister
crooked yeah yeah so
the plot then is
that he's running around
being the shadow but then Genghis
Kong's grandson shows up
and he's like
you know
I want to take over the world
but they all
by the way
you're being offensive
there
all the Chinese people
and they speak
with British accents
oh okay
they're all like
ah yes
Mr Shadow
it's me
Chinese man
what a son
it's your old pal
jing zinging
bing ming
all right more son
nip up the apples
and pears in
like a good lane
why
you owe me a bit of bees
and honey
where's that pony
from earlier
Yeah, you dirty beggar.
Chinese boise.
Harrow, man, I'm a twigger.
Twigger.
Okay.
So, at the same time, all right, he meets Penelopee Ann Miller.
Okay.
She's hot.
Is she?
You ever see her?
What else was she in?
This is crazy.
Barely anything.
Okay.
But she used to be married to Will Arnette.
Before Will Arnette was famous.
Weird.
Well, while Will Arnette was in a string of failed pilots,
he was married to a woman who was in the shadow
while she was in the shadow
what else was she were in? I know the name
Penelope Ann Miller
Look her up there while I vamp for a while
and just talk about the idea that
I don't understand how Will Farrell
Will Arnett
Oh yeah sorry Will Arna yeah
I just got distracted by this
Yeah Will Arnette
Look her up there
Penelope Ann Miller
It's a name you remember isn't it
Yeah yeah hang on
So Will Arnette
He's a good looking guy
I know but he wasn't famous
and she's in the shadow
She's royalty basically
I definitely
I must have seen her as something
She's probably being around
She's a character actress now I think
After 30
Stop being a lead actress
Oh she is quite hot
Yeah imagine Will Arnette on that
She was in kindergarten cop
Oh yeah
Carlito's Way
Oh baby yeah
The relic
Uh not so much
Yeah
The shadow is the most important thing
She's ever done
Yeah
I tell her that
when she's in the hospice.
She's in Awakening's as well
with De Niro
She had a little career there
and then she got too old
That's her fault isn't it?
She stopped fucking Will Arnette
And then the phone stopped ringing
This is during an alcoholic
Will Arnett as well
Was he an alcohol?
Yeah, alcoholic
failed pilot Will Arnette
And he's still getting pussy
And he left her
For fucking Amy Poehler
Yeah
And he actually
He fell off the wagon during Flaked
Remember that show?
No
He was in a show called Flaked
In like 2017
About a recovering alcoholic
And then he just started
fell off the wagon, yeah.
It's funny.
That's what happened
to Michael K. Williams.
It's hard, isn't it?
Like, I know for some actors,
they're like, you know,
they go off to drink,
but they'll, like,
have to play, like,
alcoholic sometimes, okay?
And they'll have to, like,
smell the alcohol
to get into the role of it.
So it must be very tempting, you know?
Of course, yeah.
Also, there's that whole notion
of California sober.
Yeah.
You know, I don't do heroin,
but I take Vicod in
and I only drink beer,
not vodka,
unless it's the weekend,
and I smoke weed all the time.
but they'll also do like goop shit
you know the Gwynet Paltrow stuff
and they're like yeah I'm okay
it's okay it's psychedelics
they're not even they're basically medicine
I can drive with these
so where are we?
So the shadow okay
oh you're still talking about that
Penelopee Ann Miller
she's a ditsy
kind of a cool girl
alright she's got psychic powers
oh right
so the shadow can't control her
she's an empath
yeah exactly
and it's Sagittarius
that becomes important later
and the shadow can't control
Sagittarius is
all right
so because he
can't
gaslight her
he's interested
in her
the one you
can't have
okay
and her
uncle
he realized
he's got
upper body
shreds
and it's like
oh
I didn't need
this shit
at all
this is much
easier
come here
you
her uncle
is Ian McKellon
and he's
a wacky
inventor
so he's invented
a new
type of bombs
now the
Chinese
are trying
to
when I say
Chinese
there's
some good
Chinese
in here
as well
I guess
so
the evil
Chinese guy
Gangus Kong
that's
just say. He wants to take the atomic bomb
to take over the world because his grandfather didn't have
that. His one weakness
was not having an atomic bomb. He didn't have
nuclear weapons. And also
Tim Curry's in it as well, playing
a sniveling sidekick.
He's really fun, yeah. He's like
me, you get them there. I'll be
right with you and runs away.
Yeah. Oh, where's the shadow?
I don't feel very
well, lad. My hands
won't stop shaking.
I can't walk anymore.
So then the shadow does some stuff.
And there's some Chinese people.
He beats up a lot of Chinese people.
Yeah.
And then I don't know.
I don't know what happens then.
Yeah.
Did you finish it?
I did.
Yeah.
I remember you texted me.
It's like,
oh, this is really dumb,
but I'm enjoying it.
And then two minutes later,
no, this is actually shit and I hate it.
I do switch very quick, don't I?
That's why I'm fun to be in a relationship with.
I love you.
I have to fuck off.
You're not Alec Baldwin.
just as you're about to come
oh I've never been so in love you
con't I'm glad your mother's
dead pig
smelly pig
oink oink oik
yeah just jizzed in your
trough you whore
you sow
you were really on one today
yeah yeah but it's good though
we need that for the live show as well
yeah right yeah
so they stopped the bomb anyway
and the shadow
what's he do
I think he falls in love with Penelopeia Miller
and then they all have a good time in the end
and then I think Peter Boyle says a funny
line in the end
no it didn't really
it didn't do well did it?
No I didn't
I think that a rush production
because there's an earthquake
happened and destroyed some of the sets
oh shit
so I think there's a bit of the end
where the shadows chasing
the Genghis Kong around
and I think they were supposed to go
into like a hall of mirrors
and have a big action thing
but all the mirrors fell down
so they didn't just
just shot him
Fair enough
No yeah
So there was
So after Batman
It was the shadow
And then Phantom
Which was shit as well
Darkman
Now Darkman
Now Darkman was like
An original creation
Of Sam Ramey
I've heard that's good
I've heard
Yeah
It's kind of like
A cult hit
Like Liam Neeson right
Yeah
Playing like a comedic
Kind of
A dark man
I need to find
The Black Bastards
The Dark Bastards
The Dark Man
Bastards
So let's go on to Batman
real quick
Then before we go
So I watched...
What are we at here?
We got time.
Oh, yeah, we got time.
So I watched Batman Returns.
I don't know why.
I've been in a real Batman Returns mood recently.
You only ever get that kind of way.
I loved Batman Returns when I was a kid.
It's like really violent.
Yeah.
The studio hated it.
Really?
They had loads of fights with Tim Burton about it.
Because they wanted fucking McDonald's pulled out.
Really?
Yeah, McDonald's had a whole tie line and they pulled out because it was too violent and sexual.
I haven't seen it in so long.
But I'll let you...
Man, it's literally like...
like they fully go like
that's the pussy
I've been looking for
oh
about cat what
yeah I know
but actually
you might not get this
it's actually a double
meaning there
well
whatever Davido's saying
it
yeah
that's the pussy
I'm gonna ask
there's another bit
where like
there's a girl
like oh
you're such a good
role model
for young people
and he's like
well you're a good
role model
for me
and he's like
puts a badge
on her tit
and he's like
rubbing her tit
nice
yeah
yeah
he's like
whah
as he rubbed
their taste.
Davido's so good in that.
Davido is fucking great.
It's got Christopher Walkin.
Yeah.
Walking almost steals the show.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Let's, um, do you want to talk about,
I don't know much to say about Batman?
The first Batman, I don't know why.
I just kind of stuck it on.
The muscle relaxers were kicking in
and the smoke a bit of ways like,
let's just watch Batman.
I didn't really like it, to be honest.
Now, obviously, liked it a lot when I was a kid.
I didn't like it either.
No, I liked it as a kid.
I was a real nerd.
I was like, that's not the real Joker's.
Jordan.
Batman didn't push him into
the chemical vat and access chemicals.
This is a disgrace.
Yeah, that's when your
mother knew, it's time to send him to
the doctors. Yeah. But yeah,
I didn't really, no, obviously,
Jack Nicholson saves it. Watching his
performance kind of makes up for, like,
the rest of the movie. Like, even the way
that Batman is revealed at the start,
I thought it was just really silly and just
kind of... Yeah, it has like an amateurish vibe,
because I think there's a lot of arguments
making that
between the Tim Burton style
and the studio style
and it kind of is clashing weird
there's a lot of people
too many cooks in the kitchen
and all I mean I like it
kind of it's very good aesthetically
the sort of production design
it sort of shows the world
of Gotham City very well
there's obviously a kind of German
expressionist
kind of influence which is cool
but I'm like
you know Michael Keaton does a fine
job. Kim Bessinger does a good job
but the guy who plays the wisecracking
reporter, I liked him, he was good.
I remember as a kid I always identified
with him, I was like, hey, that's
sad, isn't I? Yes, it is.
The smart aleck you can't get pussy.
It's like, hey, I don't know what it is, but that guy.
I know my place, you know, will I ever be
a cool hero? No, no.
I'm not even commissioner of Gordon.
Yeah, but as
I was Billy D. Williams.
Nice. Yeah, nice, respect. Yeah, I always
considered you a bit of a two-face, too.
Woo-hoo!
Boom!
Yeah, enough of that.
So, Batman, yeah, it was really only for
Jack Nicholson's performance that I
enjoyed it, but yeah, I did have
a very, like, strong, you know,
inner monologue while I'm watching
as, like, I'm in my 30s, what am I doing
here watching Batman?
Well, I didn't get that watching Batman returns.
I was completely transfixed and taking
away by the gothic nature of Tim Burton's
masterpiece. It's, it's
real, it's a lot darker and more
violent. The first one's kind of silly.
What I like about Jack Nicholson's
performance is it's so very
obviously influenced by Caesar
Romero's from the 60s
Batman, but then he incorporates
a real darkness into it, so he very much
serves as a bridge between
Caesar Romero and Heath Ledger, which
I respect, you know?
I haven't watched Batman in a lot.
Probably, I'm not exaggerating, maybe 20
years. It's been a long, long time.
There's a dance scene, isn't it?
There's like a prince dance.
yes two actually oh wow yeah they when they go into the art gallery yeah yeah start dancing and kind of
defacing the artwork disrespectful uh and then there's the big set piece at the end joker basically
puts on his own parade and invites all the people he was like throwing out money yeah and then he
poison gas or whatever it's weird it's very silly and cartoonish and then there's a kind of dark undercurrent
but it's it's very light in the darkness
I think it's not like fully committed to anyway
well I think Batman Returns is very much
like this is timber and 100%.
He obviously got a lot more creative control
because the first one is successful.
Should he just jump into Batman Returns?
Yeah, also just a quick, interesting thing
Jack Nicholson got top billing
above Michael Keaton
and pites on the back end
back when that was a newish thing.
Made a lot of money.
Oh, I've heard like 80 million.
Respect.
80 million like insane amount.
Anyway, so yeah, Batman Returns
So Batman Returns, I don't know
I just had fun memories of this
And I started watching it
I forgot so much of it
And then as it went on
It started like coming back to me
Yeah, yeah, yeah
But like, remember like the start
It starts with like the penguin being born
And the whole joke is that he's fucking ugly
Yeah, so they put him in a basket
And put him on the river
But before that he's actually eating the cat
Like he's like he keeps him in the cage
Oh what?
Yeah, he's like
Weh-in the cage
Like his little baby
I'm sorry but like
How is this possible
It's the whole but not looking
and I was like
honey
that day
you went to
Brooklyn Park
zoo
I mean
I know
we were
going through
some stuff
then
but
what are you
account
like me
have David
just say it
you
passive
aggressive
son of a
bitch
while the
baby's like
this is
why Pingoo
and I
work so well
together
Pingoo
so they
put up
in a little
thing
kind of like
Moses
and put
him in the
river
and he goes
into the fucking
sewers, yeah. And up to this point
this is not, it doesn't feel like a Batman movie
this is just a weird like kind of weird dream
gothic thing. Yeah, yeah.
And he goes in and we see him going in and the
Batman logo and all that. I know, I'm over
I'm, hey, here's take my money, you know, I'm loving it.
Hellen the bottom carter's a conch. I love you,
Timber. So then we cut it
33 years later. It's a Christmas movie.
Yeah. So it's on Christmas, yeah.
I remember I was first seeing it as
maybe I was like 10 years old at
Christmas I just remember watching it thinking
this is fucking awesome
Yeah
Because there's that whole big thing
The Batman's driving out
Kapsue, Kepoo! Pappoooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
Yeah
Weo weeo wee boobo peepum
Beepum
Wee boobooy
How it starts beating his babbooy
Yeah no I remember
loving it I remember it being crazy
I remember describing this to my aunt
I remember describing the Batman
Returns to my aunt
And then like halfway through
Relatives she didn't care
Yeah
Yeah and it's like why you're looking away
I'm talking about Batman
That's why I've hated women
Ever since
And you've been right
Yeah
The burden of proof
In on you, brother
They have been dropping the ball
Collectively
For millennia
Bitches
Salt your shit out
So Christopher Walker is a business man
You remember his name?
No
Max Shrek
Max Shrek
Yeah you know where that's from
Nosferato
That's the actor who played
Nospharato
That's cool
He's building a power plant
So he's evil
and he's got white hair
I'll be honest
to you know, I'm looking
at Christopher Walker
sometimes in this movie
you know that thing
on the internet
where you can like
bimbofy someone
No
Bimbofy is like a filter thing
where you make them look really sexy
So let's say like
They take like Chandler
And then make him look
Like a 16 year old girl
Oh
Yeah
Wow
You know
That's what you want
Is it
Or you could get like
Joey
and make him look like a 16 year old girl
You can have a lot of fun with it
This is new to me
Well I mean
60 year old girl
I just mean like they give them like real cute features
Yeah, kind of like big eyes
Like an anime looking, okay?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay
There's some points in this
Where walking looks very fuckable
Like he's got a real like
Bimbo cute face
Okay
I mean, he was a handsome man back in the day
No, not handsome
I'm going cute
Like sexy
Very cute
Feminine, that's it yeah
There's a feminine
There's a feminine aspect to him in this film
I think it's cause
The big hair or whatever
And there's some bits where he's looking scared
Which is very feminine
yeah he's crying a little bit
maybe choking on a hot dog
yeah yeah yeah while I watch
Batman returns
his mascara is running
so Max Shrek he's like
oh the power plant
oh I'll have so much money
and power and they're all like
well Gotham doesn't need a power plant
he's like shut up you cunt
but then do you remember this
Michelle Pfeiffer plays the secretary
Selena and they're talking about business
she's like well I have an idea
and they ignore her
rich you should do
she's the secretary
Yeah, she's pouring tea
And she's like, well, I have an idea for the business
And no one will listen to me
No, they won't
You know what happens if the CEO
A Fortune 500 listens to the secretary
The stock tanks and people
Don't just lose their jobs, people die
So pour the coffee and shut your fucking mouth
Cunt!
Now here's a fact I learned
I don't think of 100% believe it
But I want to see what you think, okay?
So apparently Bowie turned down the roll
okay
now it's said on the internet
he turned it down
to film Fire Walk with me
oh the David Lynch
the Twin Peaks movie
yeah yeah yeah
but he's only in that
for like five minutes
but like the thing is
you gotta take into consideration
touring schedules
recording all that stuff
I think Lynch is like a weird thing
where like he could
like I know it Twin Peaks Walk with me
he filmed Firewalk
with me
he filmed loads of shit
with people from the show
and never used it
so he like got them all down there
and filmed days and days never used it
and only was available
in like 2016
you can only get the footage then
to release a special edition
Oh really?
Yeah, yeah
How many more hours of footage?
An hour
Oh, just an hour
Well, no, I take a bit more than an hour
Did you watch the full thing?
I've never actually watched Firewalk with me
I love Firewalk of Me
Yeah?
Now,
Firewalk in me is interesting
because the first like
20 minutes is Kyle McLaughlin
and it's like Twin Peaks
It's like him outside Twin Peaks doing shit
And then it goes back to him peaks
And we never go back to Kyle McLaughlin
So we never find out
He's investigating a murder with Kiefer Sutherland
And they never go back to that
And we just go back to Kama
And you know about the incest?
No
Oh, it's all about incest
So it's a guy fucking his daughter
Awesome
Yeah, so
Hey, baby
Why would you want to do Batman returns
You do that instead
Can I play the daughter?
No, David, you can't
Please, come on, Lynchie
You old stick in the
mad let me have a go
so we find out the penguins
the penguins got a cool gaff you remember
he lives in the zoo
in the Arctic
like the Arctic
that's right yeah he's got a real like
he's got a real bachelor pack
yeah he's got me he's got a whole gang of freaks
with him yeah
they're all from the circus
because later we we find out later on
he grew up in the circus as bird boy
bird boy yeah
and all like he brought all the freaks
with him he's got a nice piece of ass as well
remember the pool girl yeah
it's like bearded
ladies and two-headed octopuses
and Puerto Ricans. It's crazy.
It's like the workmen's, you know.
It's wild.
And actually, Doug Jones is one of the freaks.
And he would go on to play
the shape of water and Abe Sapium
in Hellboy and all sorts of roles
that you're having a good time there, Brian?
You're not really lighten up when I say these roles.
No, no. To be honest, you said a whole bunch of,
you made a whole bunch of noises
come out of your minds. And I don't really know.
My brain did not.
internalize or process that information in the slightest.
Well, all the Doug Jones fans are like, whoa,
Doug Jones, Doug Jones.
Finally, the people play the Doug Jones drinking game
of something to do.
It's been a long wait.
They're still holding that beer, be like, whoa.
It was worth it.
Okay, so.
That bud lights probably feel the bit heavy now.
After holding it for so long.
Oh.
You know.
Okay, so if you remember next,
so we find out Mac Schreck's been up to no good,
he's been doing a lot of dodgy shit.
Yeah, insider trading.
Oh, more than that, like,
his business partner got killed,
mysteriously.
So then Michelle Pfeiffer goes through the files
to organize them.
Secretary's sticking her beak in
where it doesn't belong.
And then Christopher Walker throws out the window.
He does.
He's great, he's great,
because he's like, oh, I'm not going to,
and then throws her out, yeah.
So he almost, like,
He's almost the best part of it.
Yeah.
I wonder if that's what he did
was Natalie Wood on the boat.
I'm only joking.
No, I'm really going to do it.
Bye.
So what do you think about
Catwoman's origin in the movie?
What happens now?
So she falls, hits the ground
and a bunch of cats start eating her?
Start like going around her.
It seems to be some kind of almost like
a debt and rebirth.
It's very vague intentionally.
I remember as a kid not really getting,
but they are kind of biting her.
they are yeah they're nibbling on her
almost like their souls are going
into her or some shit
it's a bit as you say very vague
and kind of not very clear now I didn't like
this because that is not Catwoman's origin
in the comic books and in the
in the comic book she just likes cats the end
all right
god they really were
you know
call her cat woman
she likes cats
go what the fuck were you want from me all right
but in this it's
I like it now because the movie's so weird
It's kind of cool that almost a supernatural element
in a way, like, and if you want to be
like, scientifically like, oh, she whacked her head
and went spastic. But like, how
it was a big fall. There's no way
she could have actually survived. But she falls, like,
you know those things that are like,
you know, we have the doorway of a building and we've got the
thing above, like a canopy kind of thing? Oh, like a tarp
yeah, she falls, hits the tarp
and goes through, yeah. Now, it still wouldn't
really help you, but it's comic books.
Yeah, exactly, yeah. It's kind of,
Oh, but the laws of physics dictate
The cerebral hematoma would be so intense
She would lose consciousness and eventually die
Scientifically her tits would pop out with a costume
Neil deGrasse Tyson agrees of me
Yeah, yeah
Hey, I'm a titties you're talking about
Anyway
So, Max Shrek gives a speech
Okay, and then the penguin kidnaps them
This is the bit you're talking about all this circus
freak show out, okay?
Then Batman gets called
and he's like
whewo, pew, pew, pew.
Does that happen later, did it?
Yeah, some stage.
I might be in a mixed up, okay?
And we see old Alfred.
Alfred's very old in these movies.
Yes.
He gets older as it goes along.
This Alfred is in for the next two movies
as well, Batman Forever and Batman and Robin.
And the George Clooney one.
Yeah, exactly.
And by the end, remember he's just in the bed all the time?
He's just sick.
He was real sick.
And then, of course,
when Nolan did it
it was Batman
Begins
chemotherapy for Alfred
He's old
He's old
Folks
He's old
That's the joke
Hello
Take Michael Kane
Please
There's a story
A while ago
He said he was tired
From acting
And then like a day later
He's like
Fuck that
I'm back
I'm better than Michael
Kane
Oh right
Yeah
But he's like
Not fucked on back
And better
Sex you're never
Yeah, get Carter to do
Get Carter to the old folks oh
So uh
Because he's old folks
Come on
Are you with me here
Yeah
So now she's catwoman
She's jumping around
They're all after Batman
Batman's doing stuff
Penguin tries to run for mayor
At one stage
Remember this?
Vagely
Yeah
And he's like really like
Oh yeah
There's like man
Penguin's so sexual in this
Like there's so many puns
Like one bit where like
Someone's like
You can fill a void in the city
And he's like
I like to fill her void.
And he's like looking directly
a woman's ass.
Wow.
It's a full shot of the ass,
you know?
Nice.
God,
DeVito is really good in this.
Yeah.
He's so fun.
I kind of,
because you know,
I've seen like the parody on
It's Always Sunny
and I kind of forgot
what he was like in the actual film.
Wait,
did he do a parody in all of a sudden?
Yeah,
I remember the,
well,
kind of like that
in the lethal weapon
movie.
He's kind of playing a villain.
Oh, yeah,
I guess.
Yeah,
I mean,
but he's playing like
in an Indian,
Native American chief.
I know,
yeah.
That's not a penguin, Brian.
I can't tell a difference.
They're both in danger.
You just go to a casino and feed them fish.
You penguins sure like your fire water, huh?
So then, yeah, this is great then.
Yeah, we don't need to go through it a whole thing.
Like, yeah, you enjoyed it.
Yeah, there's very dark stuff.
Like one bit, like, penguin pushes a girl off a building.
And Batman doesn't save her.
family just watches she falls and he goes eh and it just drops and dies like what do you want honey i can't fly
shit that's your problem remember penguin that's a you problem penguin bites that guy's nose i remember
that bit man he's bleeding like black goo yeah it was black no no his his blood is black but the guy's
nose is red and his squirts like they got when he bites the guy's nose with penguin's blood
is black yeah penguins got like black blood or fucking ooze or something coming out of him yeah
he was an iteration oh that's why yeah exactly yeah exactly
no it makes sense
and the guy
just some nerdy guy
was like
Mel you are a bit ugly
I guess there was no mirrors
down the sewer
and then penguin bites his nose off
yeah
I remember that
and that was a big seat
that didn't
that Warner Bros did not like that
it was very shocking
I remember as a child
I was like
oh my goodness
yeah
I remember the penguins
with bombs on him
yeah
wait doesn't he
at one point
try and kidnap all the kids
yeah
yeah
Batman stops him
but it goes very
like Moses again
yeah very biblical
Yeah, yeah, like, yeah, killing of the first son,
but then there's also that sort of pied piper element too.
Yeah.
I remember, yeah, it was like they kidnap all the kids
and put them in cages and stuff.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean...
I've got to re-watch this.
It's awesome, man.
I watch it right now.
Yeah?
Let's go downstairs.
I don't give a fuck what they were doing.
It's Batman returns.
It's funny, they're having, like, a real moment down there.
It's like, yeah, man, just sometimes I'll find a hard to open up.
And I'm like, guys, shut up!
just have another trick
it's my intervention
Batman Returns
I'm intervening with some
Batman Returns
I'm going to intervene your void
my cock
My penguin cock
Yeah
Probably
We're over an hour there
Yeah
We're over an hour there yeah
That was fun
That was fun
Yeah so Batman
Yeah I'm gonna
I'm gonna rewatch
Batman returns
You know what
I think I'd enjoy Batman forever as well
just for Jim Carrey
and Tommy Lee Jones
Well have you read about Batman Triumphant
No
That was the original third Tim Burton movie
With Damon Waynes
Uh huh
Robbins
Oh
Yeah he did fittings for Batman Returns
Really
And they decided to cut it out
Because it was already kind of too full
But yeah
There was a there gonna be a third Batman movie
And also Tim Burton was going to do
The Catwoman movie as well
So why didn't it then
the studio
or like it's too dark
we want some
we want Joel Schumacher
he's a safe pair
of gay hands
yeah yeah yeah okay
he'll look after everything
nice
it was getting too dark
and weird
I mean I again
haven't seen Batman
forever in a very long time
you'll be surprised
there is a lot of like
sexual stuff
with Catwoman
and like
she's like
she's like
getting real close to him
and licking her nose
she's putting her leg up
and stuff
um
Michelle Pfeifer man
she's a hot little piece
yeah
but no
You see her now
She's in her 60s
Pippa P
Crack her open
Yeah
Clean her out
Yeah
Guy woman
That's okay
Another quailor
Trillow me in a morning
So Batman
Triumphon would have been
Damon Waynes
Is Robin
I forget who else
Would be
I think the plan
Was they're going to get
Nicholson back
In a dream sequence
Okay
And it was going to be
Keaton again
Yeah
Keaton and then
Scarecrow
I believe
And they were
Oh
And they're going to have
Billy D. Williams
As two face
Yeah
so then how come
they recast Batman
when Schulmacher took over
because
well I think it was like
Keating just liked
Burton
and I think they probably were like
oh no because for Batman returns
Keating got like 10 mil
he got like a lot of money
really yeah
and I think they're like
it's too much money
yeah fair enough
Kilmer he knows his place
yeah yeah
he'll do it for a carton of smokes
which will come back to haunt him
in later life
yeah so
anyway
yeah that's the end of the show there
buy tickets to
the live show.
Will this be the last
podcast we do before
live show?
We should probably do
like maybe a
one before the live show
Yeah, we could do that
yeah
Patreon one before the live show
just to like
it's almost like
the night before Christmas
Yeah
yeah
where we're just begging
Please
oh God
buy tickets
Oh yeah
Well like look
It's gonna be something
You know what happens
If you don't buy tickets
We end up in the boot
of a car
in a suitcase
getting dumped into the liffy
and it's going to be a certain
Job's darn comedian
that's doing it
I can't say much more than that
but just know
that
doesn't it well for us
if you don't buy tickets
we're fucked
we're fucked
come on please
oh come on
actually seriously though
do come on
please
now buy a ticket
fun is fun
yeah
let's get down to
I have bills
to pay here
with my art
and my words
I want to get that
we should try and get that
grant actually
remember I was talking shit
about that government grant
I'm actually needed now
so I've come right
yeah
last thing you're like
but you're fucking deadbeat hippies
and then you get your first
electricity bill
I have to buy food
oh my god
I'm like
mommy where's to buy food
I spent all my money
on Batman return special edition
oh fuck
oh fuck
I'm fucked
alright bye