Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 169 : Better Saul Saul

Episode Date: September 25, 2022

The BJ boys need legal assistance....

fucking started now. It's on. It's all animal house in here. I got a beer and a coffee. Oh, I burnt my tongue. Yeah. And you're holding on microphone. You've got your notebook. It's too much, Brian. It's a nice mix of business and pleasure. Yeah, yeah.

Anyway, we're doing a free one. It's been a bit of a crazy week, so we're recording this late. You've had, I will say this now, you're living this kind of weird rock star lifestyle. But that I mean, having sex with children. You're sleeping with, you call them groupies. Yeah, yeah, I call it my delightful little cherry blossoms, that's what I call.

Oh, my little cherry blossom, your pussy stinks like a possum, you've got gynaecological issues, you hoar. So you've been doing, you're gig in Dublin, then Cork. Doesn't get any better than that? The Rebel County, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. They got a lot of Confederate flags down there. They do. And you know what? That's not even the most retarded thing about it. And also slaves down there as well. Oh,

my lord, how do you do, master? Yeah, as soon as you go through the toll bridge there. Yeah, no, I was ginging down a cork for the weekend. So, yeah, that was fun. He's gigging in Dublin there. Met Reginaldee Hunter. A delightful man. Yes. Very cool guy. You and him were chit-chatting

about the state of comedy today. That's right. Yeah, it's like, look, I'd just think there's too many of them, you know? Hey, you just beg up both me right now Because I ain't comfortable right now Very cool guy Very nice I'd love to be like Reginald

Talk to everyone No ego or arrogance Nice guy in the world He's big into jazz Okay I presume No No he actually is

He was on One time I was driving around Dundalk And I was listening to BBC Radio 4 So I'm that kind of guy Okay I listen to BBC one I'm like These voices sound scary

So I go on BBC Radio 4 But it had him on They have like a thing where to get people on Talk about music and stuff That him talking about like a Charlie Park Is that Charlie Parker Is that a jazz man? I think so

Yeah Eddington All those cunts Salonious Monk Yeah Miles Davis Yeah yeah I can't think of anymore

Richie Kavana All the same ilk Yes So you had a good time there I had a good time as well Okay Didn't do much now I just been working

I got a leap card Oh yeah, has it changed your life You know it was funny I went to the shop to get one Yeah But I got confused I went to the foreign girl I was like

You've got a green car Do you No please please I am so sorry Yes That's good now Yeah but I did get one now So that's literally

That's been the only thing I've done this week I went out drinking with some people Yeah But I was very sensible I'm trying to like not drink too much You just had one beer While they got shit

face and you just you talk copious notes of their deepest darkest secrets yeah yeah it is quite fine now run back to you like oh james yeah yeah you won't believe it he drank six points and he felt dizzy can you believe that oh he can't get it up oh wait this is about you never mind uh but anyway yes this episode is going to be mostly better calls all way yes so we're going to do this in the patreon but we thought that's a bit unfair for the patreon people but free people who cares like So please be foreworn, spoilers ahead for Better Call Saul. Well, that's what I'm thinking.

Is there any of you want to say now before Saul? Because when Saul kicks in, it ain't stopping, all right? Yeah. Hey, have you been accused of taking a piss in a child's face, dipping your balls in an old man's mouth and a nursing home? Did you take a shit in the sandbox and brought daylight in front of some Pakistani children? Better call Saul. I was kind of thinking, hey, well, I do a little funny when I was in the bathroom there.

Taking a piss. Will I do a little quirky intro? I'd have to say, yeah, not bad, not bad. Well, he didn't do a stray away. I wouldn't like that. I was debating it and I knew, I knew, like, you wouldn't know like that at all. You know what happened? I would be like, okay, the pocket, you're like, hey, bear it costs all. You want to cut it out, yeah. Or give you a side eye like, what? Press pause there. I got to say something.

No, but you don't press pause and you start beating me and then you're listening back to it later in the editing room. oh yes but no I knew you wouldn't have liked it so you'll probably cut it out knowing you you have a real

you really take the fucking hatchets I do play God sometimes and I've got a little weird notion sometimes like no we won't say it would be problematic sometimes I get a little bit

like oh we can't sit can't see the word shit on the podcast yeah fanny no no low brow humor that's one of my

weaker moments right there yeah yeah oh I saw an old man fall over the day it was great yeah it was in work okay it was so perfect because it's um there's like a place you go and work to watch a video

all right and it's like chairs there's like a curtain all right so he fell over just the hand flopped eventually a little pool of blood seeping out you just put a wet floor sign down and keep walking I was like that's great that's comedy because it's about punching up no the old man falling down and you hear they're like

Oh, please help me Oh! Yeah. Just the smell of whiskey made him dizzy and he collapsed. Old cunt. That's great.

Yeah, yeah. All right, now we can start. So we're going to do Bear Cossall. So he might do some nope afterwards. It depends.

I'll tell you what, one thing about nope is. I won't talk about too much. Nope has stuck in my head. That's the thing I have to compliment peel. Yes. Even if you hate his films, which I don't,

they stick in your head. Yeah, make you a tink. Well, I personally, I really liked Nope a lot. I need to think about Nope some more. I thought the third act needed some issues. Needed some issues.

Needed some issues. How come they're not talking about the fact that they're black? What's going on? This is confusing. Has Daniel Kaluah looked in the mirror? The alien should be running away from him. He's great, by the way. He's fantastic.

Kaluah just keep getting better and better. He will win an Oscar within five years. And if he doesn't, he'll have me to answer to. you know what you'll like this now I'm conflicted he's not in Black Panther 2 was he in the first one

he was yeah he was like got better shit to do yeah yeah he's going to make what he calls cinema I respect that but then you say that coward funnily enough

the third act especially is incredibly people have used the term Spielbergian obviously they wanted to say Jewish but they couldn't say that no it's a big this synagogue is very

Spielbergian it's a big huge proper like blockbuster popcorn flick type set piece action packed you gotta do this almost like a video game was like this this and this it goes wrong oh my god the action

are they going to do it it is very like you said more conventional than maybe us perhaps yeah exactly yeah yeah even get out you know they were very get out was sort of weird and artsy but it towed the line it was pretty accessible us was just mental get out is

a very crowd especially at the end it's very crowd-pleasing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In terms of that, a white woman got shot. Well, yes. Yeah, that, Jesus, that makes me squirt. That's funny. We're going to talk about Better Called Saul. We're just talking about Get Out. Speaking of lawyers and crime,

I liked Get Out, but I just think it was never, it was impossible to live up to the hype that fucking cunty white liberals are like, you have to see this movie. Which is funny, because those county white people, people at Jordan Peel. That's he's sitting like he's mocking them.

Where's the type of honkies he'd like? We go up to him, hey you, buddy, I don't like you. And I wonder no obligation to like you. Welcome to the 21st century, pal.

How's already doing? You see how much from the mad TV days? How's you getting on? Oh, look, big fan of Jordan Peel, obviously. But we'll circle around to know. Better call so on. Maybe I think Nope might need more time

to digest. Okay. yes I get you okay right well it was oh wait

yeah oh no because I was I got what you said there and then you were giving me a lock

as if to be like oh and I was like maybe there's a double meaning no no I know what he's going for

that's not as clever as he thinks at all but you know I'll pat him on the bag yes I get it you like that bit

now didn't you the innards the squelchy innards yeah that's vor right Look at that if we're getting distracted again. Better call so.

Bob Odenkirk has worked his entire life to be mentioned. You know, he's worked hard to get away from the comedy double act of Cross and Oden Kirk. Here, double act, Key and Peel, Mr. Scholl. Yes. Yes, interesting. See, that's exactly the point I was making before you interrupted me to make that point. So, yes, I think we know who's the key and who's the Peel here. Who's the Cross and Oden Kirk?

anyway, yes, better calls Sol. I'm not even, you know, across, I'm like the guy who did the January 6th rally. You are Paul F. Tompkins, that's who you are. Oh, shit. Yeah. I saw a cunt actually recently walk around Dublin in 2022 with that kind of, you know, that look. Oh, that like, yeah. With the bowtie hat look.

With the glasses and the buck tooth fucking mustache. Yeah, yeah, everything wrong. And a tweed jacket. Was he riding a penny farthing? Was it? I was like, I legally have to do a hate crime right. No, I have to hate him. I have to beat him to death. Anyway, look, Better Call Saul. I was on the Saul train, literally since 2015.

You were. I was watching it when it came out. Yeah. I watched it a day after it came out on AMC. Okay. I'm watching it up to date the whole time. You have been, you've been there from the Get-Go. I will say this.

I did not like the first season. Okay. Because I was one of those people that I liked Better Call Saul. Sorry, no, Breaking Bad. And you like that character and yes. Yeah. And Breaking Bad. bad certain

speed to it there's oh shit moments it's like oh shit oh shit I mentioned the Patreon it is like a modern day Flash Gordon in a way it's designed

to have cliffhangers and keep people entertained it's a serial it's fun they're writing it they're writing it to be like I'm gonna write this

I'm gonna fuck myself for next week yeah how are they gonna get out with this it's like pulpy and over the top and silly at times

exactly yeah but fun but they're embracing it they're embracing the fact that this is and they will have every now and again a guy's

head on a turtle exploding or something like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're having fun. I thought that was from a documentary to be honest, yeah. But anyway. But this was slow and it took me a while to get into it. Yes. But I think week to week when you're not used to it is hard and eventually

you start to fall in love with it. But for yourself you watched it recently and you just plow through it. I just binge the whole thing. Yeah, probably. I'm still dizzy from it. And that was kind of the initial criticism when it first came out. People were like, yeah, it's good but it's slow. And so, you were there, you were sort of

the canary in the coal mine. I made sure you watched the entire thing and then I was like, then I'll decide whether it's worth my time. That's how we do with everything, like, you know when you find pills on the street. Yeah, I'll tell you what, I only watched Cobb there the other day. How long ago did we talk

about Cobb? You watched Cobb? I did, yeah. I'm glad to hear that. Great movie, isn't it? It was good. Tommy Lee Jones is fantastic in it. Is it great, yeah. Are you going to watch all footage of Cobb now? Yes, I am. Exactly. old games.

I'm now going to come to Cobb. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, the first season, we don't know the season to season, talking about major teams and characters and all that. The first season, 2002, we meet Jimmy McGill. Jimmy McGill.

Down on his look. Yeah. So he's still Jimmy McGill, meet the kind of cast of characters that are involved in his life. So the biggest one, the kind of, biggest kind of force, gravitational force to have shaped his personality.

Yeah, it's a big, Chuck. Chuck. Biggill, Charles McGill, a.k.a. Chuck is a major character to start. What do you think of Chuck? Well,

played by Michael McKean, who I love. What did you initially think of Chuck? And then as it kind of, we'll talk about it. So Chuck initially has, what's it called? Gay, well, so he's gay, and he's electromagnetic gay disease. Asperger's. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

No, he has electromagnetic hypersensitivity disorder. Which is not real. Well, it's a psychosomatic disorder. obviously, you know, a manifestation of deep psychological stress and trauma. It's real to him, just because you say it's our, like... Oh, look at James. Oh,

really? Yeah. I drank the coolie to you. Or take the soup. Yeah, yeah. I've got the hyper-electric bag, whatever the fuck. You know they'll kill you on Twitter if you say. But it's like, you know, PTSD. Like when someone's suffering

PTSD, they're not actually back in the jungle in Vietnam. But to them they are I'm just like logically you're not Yeah yeah but anyway so he's mental He's a spastic Yeah I'm glad you're on my team He's mentally ill

He claims to have a hypersensitivity To electromagnetic waves So he can't be around any electricity So you go to his gaff It's pure fucking Ted Kaczynski Cabin in the Woods There's no electricity He's boiling water with a fucking

Like gasoline lanterns and shit It's old school like he's camping His life is camping even when he's in a house he's in a tent you know what I mean like pure fucking Paul Bunyan shit you know what I mean and we kind of find out a little more

about Chuck so Chuck literally can't go to work he set up a company Hamlin Hamlin McGill yes he can't even go there and now Howard Hamlin is in charge of place and Howard Hamlin's start is meant to be like this sleazy kind of villain yeah but he's actually a really

I really liked him yeah and the more he find out about him the more he's a decent honest man he's a good guy Look what happens to a decent man around here. A decent white man in this society. Along comes Lalo. Across the border. I tell you, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Does he have his papers? I don't think so, my friend. Yeah, yeah. So Jimmy is down on his look. He's got his brother. Now what exactly he's specialising in, what kind of law is it at the start? It's specialising in basically.

like public defender like helping old people and shit like that you know kind of like you know or like people who like the Kettlements for example have been wrongly accused of whatever like that embezzling money yeah stuff like that yeah yeah yeah so Jimmy

is doing his stuff he's trying to stay on straight and narrow but Jimmy is an addict yes in a way to not crying per se but like the the hustle the hustle the swizzle the game the juice baby because apparently we find out back in the old days he used to be known

He used to go by the moniker Slipping Jimmy Yes Yeah Now I do love the little scams They're very fun to scams Yes It just made me think

Oh I wish I could run scams And schemes And you know I was going to do some scams I'm going to go to a woman Be like oh do you want to have sex Ooh Oh I've got a watch

I'm slipping Jimmy Yeah I've got a coin here It's worth a lot of money Do you have sex do you Oh this watch is worth Oh I've dropped my watch It doesn't make anything

Yeah yeah yeah You just hire some random fat guy. It's a fat guy that have a heart attack. You'd have a heart attack you're going to suck my cock. I'm Kevin Koster.

So what would you call him? Like a con man. A grifter. A con artist. I do love the fact that it starts off the scams are fun. We, the audience,

watching the scams. And they get very long where it's like, you know, it's like, oh, this is my wife, we're doing this, we need money for this. And then big,

big, and you're having fun watching it. And as it goes along, especially in season six, the scams are. are very sad, aren't it? Yeah. They're not really scams at all. They're just kind of cruel and manipulative and ruining people's lives.

Especially near the end is just stealing some shoes, you know? Oh, well, yeah, that's kind of post-breaking bad. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. That's the very, very end is him, like, I was thinking, like, at the end, season six, when he's doing those scams or he's robbing a guy with cancer, that's like an alcoholic drinking like hand sanitizer. It's like, that level, it's like, I just need it.

Yeah. I know it's bad. It's kill me. I just need it. Just needs it. So he called himself slipping Jimmy because no one could take a fall like him Yeah in Chicago

He'd take an old tumble And he'd get some A sweet sweet payout And then we see another flashback Him in his dad shop Oh yeah And he sees his dad's very weak Easily fooled cunt

Yeah like somebody comes in Like hey my car broke down Give me all the money in the register And your shoes Like oh well you know I gotta help you out there You're down on your luck buddy And the kid

Like little child, Jimmy McGill is like, Dad, you're an idiot. And then, yeah, that one particular guy is like, wolves and sheep, kid. There's wolves and sheep. And you're either a wolf or a sheep. I've been living by our motto every day now. Which one do you think you are, though, Brian? I've been driving around the schools. They call me slippy, Brian.

Yeah. Oh, I've slipped. Okay So the big kind of driving force of season one Is Jimmy trying to stay on the straight and narrow Yes And then getting involved in the Kettlemans Who are a very kind of like idiotic

Couple Who are trying to break bad Ironically You're trying to do something You're doing a bad job at it Yeah And then slowly getting involved With like Mike

And that kind of world is right there But very very mild Involving in it Okay Yeah Yeah What do you think of actually Mike in the series

Mike's great it's a whole fresh what's Jonathan Banks I'm just so happy Johnson Banks is working One of those guys It's good

In another world It's like one of those guys Like oh he's that guy In Beverly Hills Cop Yeah I don't know He died in an alleyway somewhere You know

Or he just became a carpenter Or something like that You know Yeah I mean You really didn't see I mean I think he would He would just sort of pop up On like random episodes

Of law and order And CIS That kind of shit Yeah Yeah yeah But the fact it's done so well And he got really, especially with Mike, got a lot of room to breed and that.

And I kind of got sick of the whole granddaughter stuff. I was like, I get it. You got a granddaughter. Yeah, yeah. Mike, we need more. We need much. Bitch, why aren't you working, bitch? Why am I giving you all this motherfucking money?

Bitch, why? Yeah, so. Jonathan, I don't like the direction you're going there. I'm just trying something. If you would just give me a second, let me find the car. what if he one day

takes his penis out in front of his granddaughter and he says wolves and sheep wolves and sheep and he starts jerk it off no

anyway so as I mentioned he's slowly dabbling the world Jimmy is at one stage he finds the money the Kettelmans have taken he decides not to take it Is this season one?

Season one still yeah it's all season one it's very mild Well, I liked about this is, early breaking, sorry, early Better Call Saul is all very mild stuff. It's like, I got some money, should I take here, should I not? I'm going to change

some documents to make someone look foolish. It's that level and then it slowly morphs into like bullet in the fucking head. Yeah. And Mike, his character is just, he's a toll booth operator working at the courthouse where Jimmy McGill is always... Exactly. And find out a former soldier.

Cop. Well, cop, I think they've mentioned he's done... Oh, probably, yeah, did a tour in Vietnam Yeah, there is some scene where he's talking about Vietnam, he talks about guns jamming and he gives like that kind of look.

Yeah, yeah. So you could believe there's still Vietnam I think it's the M16 that was pretty renowned for it, like they were in Vietnam and the gun would jam really badly.

Yeah, especially when it gets wet which is great in fucking Vietnam. Yes, yeah, yeah. Smelly place, the structure of yucky grime and dirt, you know. And William the foe smoking weed. And then Jimmy

someone's upon an elder abuse case and that kind of becomes a kind of thing that goes on for their season as well. The Sandpiper case. Now, okay, so Hamlin, Hamlin McGill is this big respectable law firm that's basically run by

Howard Hamlin and Chuck Miguel used to run it. And is it Jimmy's trying to get a job with them? No, he just wants a payout. Oh, okay. So his whole thing season one is look, my brother doesn't work here anymore and he's basically not coming back. So just give Chuck a big payout.

him out, right? Yeah, buy him out. Give Chuck a payout. Chuck won't ask, because Chuck's weird like that. I think Chuck, he's kind of determined I will beat this illness and I'll be back working. Well, let's try and psychoanalyse Chuck for a minute. Well, like what Chuck is the kind of emphasize fact that like he hates, we find out

he's responsible for Jimmy not getting a job. Yeah, Jimmy tried to, Jimmy started off in the paper room and then he took the bar exam while still working the mail room and Hamlin Hamlin on the Gill. But when he tried to, he tried to,

tries to get a job there, it turns out Chuck was the one who stopped him, and then Jimmy's like, why did you stop me? He's like, because you're not a real lawyer, you're slipping Jimmy, and that's all you'll ever be. And I don't, I still love you, you're still my brother, but you can't help it. It's in your nature. You're a con man

and a grifter. And it's almost like, do you create the monster or is the monster already there in a way, you know? Did that create? Well, Saul? No, I think it was always, it was always, you know, it's inherent, you know, Chuck saw it from a young age

He saw his brother be slipping Jimmy in Chicago He even saw him as a child Probably stealing money out of the shop That his dad owns And the shop goes bankrupt Chuck is basically crippled with bitterness as well He's so he hates Even like the fact that like Jimmy he sees

Swans through life and can be likable And Chuck can't even tell a joke Like Chuck is like just Just not a people person Which is not like a bad thing but he can't do with it. He's very off-putting you know what, it's kind of like you're, I'm Chuck and you're slipping

Jimmy. There's a guy in work who's a very handsome guy with big muscles all right, yeah, yeah, it makes me sick. Yes. That's how I basically Chuck now. Yeah, I can identify with Chuck, you know, kind of. It's like a guy who's like stop doing comedy, you know, he's going like that.

There's a lot of them around. Yeah, and now they're just wrapped in space blanket crying every time the phone rings. Every time you see Ashton B, you're like, no! Here, we're like two months away from that, you know. Turn off that eight out of ten cats rerun.

Yeah. So, season one, nice little gentle easing today. Yeah, I'm kind of as, because I did binge watch it and season six is so fresh in my mind because it's so crazy. It's hard to remember season one. That's why I'm going to go through these very kind of quickly, I'm kind of get further into it because

each season gets ticker and ticker and more breaking bad like. Yes. So we'll get through very quick, don't worry. I see the way you're rolling your eyes. Falling asleep, taking out my phone

like, yeah. Oh, look at that. Kevin Bacon's trending on Twitter. What's he up to now? Oh, the bacon. You gotta love the bacon. Oh, you're still doing your,

okay. Your podcast, is it? You do it at me. So, season two, we introduce Egg Biggley Jr. Yes. man right there. Yeah.

Yeah. I've always liked Ed Begley, Jr. Although one thing I have to say about this, did you notice that his voice is very hoarse and raspy? He's got throat cancer or something? I don't know that. I know he like drinks piss or something. Oh. I do think he's very big in recycling water.

He's a very environmentalist. He's a very environmentalist. Also, not so much anymore, but one of the first 9-11 truthers. Oh, great. He was very big about the 9-11 truth movement. There's a lovely little collection of famous 9-11 troopers

Charlie Sheen Charlie Sheen him Ed Asner There's a fun mix Of people like that All hang out Whoppy Goldberg

Yeah Yeah I mean Hey They've got the inside scoop They know what's going down But yeah I remember there will be clips Of Ed Begley Jr

Like he's basically Given like this TED talk And he's like He's reading parts Of the 9-11 Commission report And it's like Oh

It's of no legal bearing where the financial aid comes from what so it doesn't matter who paid for 9-11 this is a disgrace yeah yeah and I was like that's that's my man right there he can be a queer environmentalist all he wants

if he's rocking the 9-11 truth movement Cadden and the Beggley man together at last back then like 9-11 truterism was kind of like star signs in a way it's like that's what she likes star signs he thinks Jews cause 9-11

it was like a fun quirky little thing No, no, look what you're doing there. You're not going to do you. You're right, yeah. It's true you under the bus there, isn't I? Well, actually, you know what? That's actually programming right there. So I just immediately assume anti-Semite.

Yeah. But the most patriotic, un-antyemitism thing you can do is not believe the government. Because the second they get the chance, it's the ovens point two. You know what I'm saying? Virtual reality ovens. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Okay. Well, let's go back to... No, I was going to make another point. I see Ken Burns's a new documentary out. About... It's called the US and the Holocaust. and it's all about the US helping the Holocaust Oh, okay

It's all about all the companies that helped IBM and all that And the fact that America Frades is just like We're not the any Jews in here Like there was like stopping Jews from going in Yeah, yeah And they were like

You know the way people say like Didn't find out about the camps I'm getting really excited now Yeah Didn't find out about the camps So the soldiers actually burst in Until Band of Brothers Damien Lewis saw it

Lies They knew about the camps for years Yeah yeah Not years maybe For ages I mean who built the railroads that the trains ran on Rockefellers

Oh right I didn't know what you meant from I'm in Asians Yes Asian Americans John Cho John Joe John Joe

Help the Holocaust All the Lulu Chews Yeah Yeah Lucy Lou So that's season two there Wait hang on What did season one Did

So it's just the sandpiper thing What's the big Is there any big moments The fat guy died Okay Toby died I'm supposed to be a flat about that Yeah

So Sophie Hagan died. And then season two is Ed Bigley Jr. So, yeah, fucking Saul or, well, like, still Jimmy, he gets a job at this law firm, but he starts

like trying his best to get fired, so he starts, like, wearing flashy suits and which will come back there, and not flush in the toilet. Playing the bagpipes. Another thing, we find out he has a job, he has a real love for

TV commercials and filming. There's a little bit of him that likes that. He loves the sleazy kind of carny like aspect of that. That's the thing. He has the ability and the knowledge and the skill to work within the parameters of the very well respected esteemed law firms, but he just can't help it be, you know, he loves the glitz and glamour and the sleaze because he knows he, he recognizes there's a gap in the market. If somebody with my skill can get in there and really grift these old mongolites, I could bleed them dry.

The scene that I think really, when I think Jimmy McGill, I always think, of is in I think season four he has his law license suspended so he has to get a job you remember he goes to the photocopier shop and he gives this big amazing spiel it's all fake by the way about how like

the photocopier is the most important kind of organ in a company yeah yeah I used to work there know how important it is and they like wows them yes they're like you got the job and the thing is like for him there's like a dog chasing a car yeah oh well I don't want

he immediately turned on and he's like what seriously you're giving me the job. You two are idiots. Yeah. I don't want to work here. But you're fucking mongoloids if you... Well, he didn't use that work. That's what I heard. I punched it up. I was like, hey, Vince. Yeah. You know who plays one of those guys? The guy who plays Uncle Jack and always sunny.

Remember Charlie Kelly's Peter Wonko? I didn't notice that, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not a choice there. Yeah. I'll say it's good. I'll tell you what, like, do... Odon Kirk's a lot of comedy connections. There's a lot of fun comedy people and it's like benders in it. John DiMaggio. Yeah, there's a lot of people...

He plays like a fat builder. Oh, okay. Well, I suppose he just said builder in the script. Actually, because Bill Burr was in Breaking Bad and Joe DeRosa's in Better Calls Hall. And they had a podcast together back of the day. Yeah, you're making connections there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Now, if we were to be cast, which one, I'd probably be Breaking Bad and you'd be better called Saul. I think, yeah, I'd be like to go to the baseball cards. Yeah, yeah, yeah. By the way, I loved that character. And I'd have a black.

wife now. Pretty sweet. I agree with her. I told you online, people are like, he got cooked. Yeah. Yeah, Burr got cooked. By DeRosa? No, no. It's like some black guy. It's like... Lebron Jiz. Yeah, they've got all the research. It's like, yeah, some black guy

banged his wife. I don't know. But I've done the research. Lavelle Crawford. The guy who played Huel. How do you think he lost all that weight? He's been fucking Bill Burr's wife. Ah, I believe him. Get off for right now. They call it the beast with two bags.

Now I know why. That one could be, hmm, that's getting a little, a little bit close to the line there, not? I think I'll rate, I think I'll be quiet for a little bit in season three, Brian. Let's continue. Season three introduces Gus.

Lovely introduction. Oh, Gus Fring. Yeah, no big like, dun dun he's just in the background there slowly comes in i've forgotten that like technically uh jimmy doesn't know who gus is like no they don't have any real direct the only connect the only thing that connects them is uh mike yeah mike arm and trout yeah and mike gets more involved in gus we meet hector as well uh hector yeah great he's great star of ace ventura and it turned out he was trans i think

i didn't watch the movie fully he's in ace ventura hector He's a landlord. Yes, sorry. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, you of all people, I thought you... I was, you know what? You said Hector, I pictured Ignacio. Oh, right, okay.

No, Hector Salamanca, the bell man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. There's Nacho and Hector. Nacho. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And Nacho's also great. He's fantastic. I do love the fact he's got two girls back to the apartment

and seems to be, like, strung out all the time. Yeah, he just comes home and throws meth at them and's like there. And they're playing with skilletrics and stuff. And he's like, let him have it, yeah. Do a puzzle. Do your jengon met there. And I'll, what you do and I'll just have your hole there

I feel like I'll put in for a few minutes But I'm not arced, yeah Too busy with FIFA So yeah Hector Salamanca And we see him walking and talking And being a real ass Grooving around, doing the worm

Like he's loving life of me He's like, I'm never going to stop walking I just love to dance I don't need that gay bell Who wants to see me limbo So now, do you like how they slowly introduced the breaking bad elements into it? Yeah, because event, I mean, you are going to have to at some point. They did it very subtly.

I think there was a while we're to do it like, and it's only like in season five, I remember when I think like, this is very breaking bad right here. It's like when Hank showed up, it's like, okay, we got Hank, we got, Hector, we got, Gus, we go. But what's good is, you know, when they sort of introduced the breaking bad characters, really your main perspective for a lot of that time. is with characters that you hadn't seen like Ignacio like he's really you know and then obviously we find out he's responsible for spasticating Hector

Yeah You know now a big thing they did in this is They made characters we cared about Yeah That we didn't know what happened to Yes So we know Saul isn't going to get Let's say Saul's in some scene in the desert

We know he's not going to kill Yeah we know he's not going to die Yeah and same with Mike But same with Nacho and Kim Kim was the big thing there Oh yeah we haven't even talked about Kim Now, Kim, everyone loves Kim. Yes, Kim's great.

Kim, Wexler. Now, you normally wouldn't like white women. Yeah, no, sure, just say that. Yeah, go on, just say that. No context. Not even in a jokey way. That's the thing. You see, you, retrospectively, you'll go,

oh, I already meant it as a joke, had you? But right there, you said it, very matter-of-factly, and you'll notice, dear listener, go back to many episodes, this is a recurring theme Brian likes to do. He thinks, I don't see his tricks A.k.a. Slipping Jimmy. Yeah, have your beer there. Go on.

I do that a lot. We're, like, we're a bunch of people. I'm like, oh, James doesn't like Jews. I'm joking around. See you later. But anyway, well, yeah, no, you're... But in this case, you're right. I don't like white women. Never have. She's actually, like, the most un-white woman, white woman. She's a boss bitch. She's a working woman does.

She's a writer to eye bitch. She's not on Twitter. She's doing fucking... She gets up in the morning, get shower, gets in her car and crashes it. Like, a real woman, you know? That was a very... Not really, like, whoa. If I'm tired and I'm driving, I always think about that. That's a very realistic.

It's just like that. She's just like that. She's driving. She's driving. She's tired. There's a jump cut. She's crashed a car. She pulled an all-nighter, which just goes to show no work ethic with these dizzy broads.

Oh, you don't get your eight hours beauty sleep. So you crash your car, you dingbat. Yeah, yeah. No, she's fantastic. What's her name, Rhea Seahorn? Seahorn. Seahorn. I think it's Seahorn, actually.

Kim Wexler is there. Kim Wax. To me, she's Kim Wexler, you know? I want to acknowledge the fact that she's a fictional character. You know what I do like about Kim Wexler is? So she's got a very clearly defined character. She's got like moral compass. Yes.

She wants to do what's right and what's wrong. She's a workhorse. And then kind of she gets slowly corrupted. She loves the grift. She loves the... It's fun. Yeah. At the end of the day, it's all about fun.

Same with like Walter White. He had to admit in the final episode, he didn't do it. It's for my family. Yeah, yeah. He did it because he's a sad old gay counter. right? A white honky and he wants to feel powerful. He wants to feel cool, like Scarface.

Same with her. She's playing by the books. It's like the secretary. And you always sometimes with a secretary if you like unbuttoned their dress. They love it. Yes, that's right. At the Christmas. You know, she's all very, oh hey, Mr. Johnson, that three o'clock appointment is going ahead and here is

the file. But then you give her a, you know, a white wine spritzer. Before you know it, she's bent over the photocopier with a fucking cue a lad's like, here we go. Cue up, boys. Wexler, Wexler. No, come on, that's not

too basic now, Brian. That's quite crude, I would say. Sexler. Oh, what is this? You hate this National Lampoon magazine? Have some respect. But yeah, so she's great. Kim Waxler. Well, I loved is, they had a flashback to her with her mother.

Yes. Our mother was, like, you know, kind of drunk driving, kind of a little bit like, he, take this and whatever, you know. Just kind of a little bit of like scumbag, scumbag mom. Yeah. But it would have very easy to

have like, I like it when it's not just like one event that shape someone. So it would be easy to have like, her mom be like,

hey, let's drink drive. Nothing bad can happen. Then she crashed their car and she's like, oh no, I should have obey the law. Yeah.

And then Kim Wex was like, oh, mommy, I will do it for you, mother. I'll obey the law. Yeah. Oh, no, my legs got all the way

up my cunt. Because you have my drink driving accident. I've got cuntus legisitis Yeah But it's not I'm just getting sense Our mother was probably

Just a cunt for years and year And she slowly went away from that Rebellion So rebel Doesn't just mean doing bad things Like let's say if I have a daughter If I was a massive whore My daughter would become a nun

That's right You know If I was sucking cock Be like hey honey I suck cocked together Father Daddy daughter Just under a

bridge, just jerking off hobos for 50 cents ago. What's wrong, honey? You don't respect your father, do you? Yeah, and then, you know, she grows up and, you know, starts running a comedy night, you know? The least sexual

a woman can ever be. It's great when, like, those things like that. It's so, like, stupid. It's not even like bitter If we're too retarded to be bitter That's right That's our biggest bestest quality right there So Kim waxer the whole time

People were like What's going to happen to Kim Everyone's worried that Kim's going to die Or whatever You're always kind of like Because she is such a straight arrow You're kind of like For a long time

You're sort of like Why is she sticking with Jimmy And then you get Oh she actually enjoys the grift She likes that he fleeces old women Out of their pensions Get her off Get her nice and moist

Yeah Well, actually, Jimmy has a real kind of, like, skill with old people. Old people love them. Old people eventually become his undoing as well. Do you notice that? Oh, yes, yes, yes, very good. These guys know what they're doing right here. That's bloody jinxies, that.

The proper buffings, in it? So, season three, the big thing with that is, like, the courtroom scene to prove that Chuck is mental. Oh, yes. Which is great right there. Yeah, yeah. You loved that, didn't you? Yeah, I love it when they can prove that people are mental. I think a lot more people need to be in the court right now.

I'll put a phone in there and be like, oh, it turns out she's not bipolar. There's a phone in her pocket. There's no battery in the phone. Check your snatch, love. And there's like a Bluetooth headset up her asshole. That full package. And then she goes on fire.

Why are they in the court again? Because what happened is Chuck had changed document no, sorry, Jimmy had changed documents on Chuck and then Chuck had recorded him saying that he changed the document. Right, right. It became a whole thing then. And then that's how Jimmy goes law license suspended.

Suspended for a year. And eventually Chuck goes up in flames. He knocks over the thing. His life's been ruined. But it's interesting because after the, you know, the bad, like, so Jimmy plants a phone battery in his pocket, proving that the disease is all in his head. So then he's sort of like, oh,

Shuck kind of has this like blossoming phase he like you know he refurbishes his gaff it's all electrical stuff in it and he's like I'm feeling much better Jimmy I owe you a debt of gratitude and then I don't know

he watches an episode of S&L it's like this is shit and he burns the gaff down and kills himself Keenan doesn't get enough air time take lieutenant what happened to Sherry O Terry Chris Catan

Sherry O'Jerry was great by the way Very funny in the scary movie film She was actually was yeah You know what Chris Catan got mention a note actually I hope he's Get some help from that I've always been a fan I've been a Chris Catan man my whole life

Now Norm can call him a queer all he wants And hey maybe he's right maybe he's wrong Look who's dead Yeah that's what I'm saying If Norm was so talented Why would he get sick when he was a child Catan, me too, the woman. Yeah.

Yeah, so... A powerful woman as well. Now, the bros can... Yeah, yeah, we can support that now. I always thought Catan was very funny, though, but... I wouldn't go that far. Where, really? I know, I thought he was like a funny kind of...

Out of, you know... At least he's memorable. I mean, you go through the whole long... There's a lot of unmemorable people there, like. Well, I don't know. I liked Chris Catan, but apparently he has a thing now where he shows up, coked out of it at comedy clubs, going, anyone remember mango?

to like, you know, 18-year-old sorority chicks. I was chatting to a guy recently who was gigging in New York. And he did say there was some guy, but I think lesser than Catan. Okay. Who was like that as well. He was like, he was in SNL for a year. And he's like, hey, do you got a spot for me, do you? And like, who are you?

Yeah. Check IMDB. Don't check Wikipede. Don't look under convictions. But anyway, yeah, look, let's get back to, so what, season four. Season four now. Season four is great. season four to me is the German season

I love this The fact that they talk You know what that's what I love as well So breaking bad They're like hey is a big underground lab And you never go like How did they make the lab In the laundry place

And you never go How did it make the lab Because that's not the type of show I don't really go in detail like that It's just action Better Call Saul's like Let's spend a fucking entire season Watching them slowly build the lab

Very methodical It's actually a couple of seasons Isn't it? It's just one It's just season four No, I think season three Might be when they talk about starting it No, but yeah, but then season four

But they don't finish it in season four Yeah, season four ends with Werner Looking out with the Stars Okay I made notes yesterday All right, all right I don't think they finish it all in one season But look, I could be wrong

We'll let the We'll let Mark Maloney decide Yes, that's right Yes, yeah He's the judge jury in execution Yeah So anyway, but like whatever case it is I love that stuff

It's very methodical. It's very good for autism. There's some great autism-friendly stuff in this. Like, you know, like Mike driving around the little thing? Around the warehouse. Oh, his little... Yeah, I was like, that looks awesome. Where he's going around being the security?

Yeah, yeah, I was like, I'm, like, the security. I wore a hard hat watching that. But, like, it's just very... Has Bob the builder written on it? It's just very, like, methodical and, uh... nice to watch. It's very meditative. Especially as a show goes on, the more confidence. Like, we're going to have a

scene where ants eat some ice cream and just really have fun with it. Yeah, yeah, really, you know, it's it's, um, what would you say, risky, but you know, in a good way to do, to do that in today's audience, you know, where it's very like, people don't have a lot of

patience for shit, you know what I mean? And also like, when you're making TV, it's a good way to weed out the retards. It is, yeah. When you're making TV, all right, you don't have that much time. It's a pretty tight schedule. Yeah. So I actually listened to a little bit of the inside breaking Better Call Saul podcast, which isn't that very

isn't good. They might get people on every now and it, it's just mostly people like, oh, we've got, what's it? Is it the, you know, the fat receptionist? Oh yeah. What's her name? Lindsay or something like that, Lydia. You'll have her on Mexico. No, Lydia's the Oh, yeah, the other one. Yeah. Lydia was

meant me in season six, by the way. Oh, really? Yeah, they couldn't get her because she was in Scotland during COVID. Oh, shit. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah. they couldn't get her and, like, I think we can do all right without Lydia. But anyway, they'll have, like, random cunts on, be like, oh, what do you think about this show? Isn't it a special time work with all these amazing people? But there is little interesting pieces on the inside, Better Call Saw podcast. We're talking about just how, like, annoying it is, where it's like, we have to buy the ants.

Like, we have to, like, set up this whole thing and film it and get it. And, like, all these little things were, like, so they're just having, like, one shot of it. We have to do his, like, sweeping thing and, like, fast forward it and, like, have him. take apart the whole car. It's just a lot of annoying things for like a, just a mildly nice shop. Well, it all works together. A lot of people probably just skip through.

Yeah, exactly. Or just be on their phone. Because I know I did. Whoa, what is this shit? Ugh! Boo! Get back to chicken, man. What do you think about Vernon are determined?

Do you like him? I hated him. He was so funny, man. I'm so glad that he, well, Spoilers. It's spoiling everything. Yeah, yeah. I love the facts.

I'll just go out and talk to my wife for a minute. I much talk to my wife. She is my whole. world. Mike's like, look we are building an underground meth lab that's worth millions. These are not the kind of people you fuck with.

Do you understand? I'm trying, like, they'll kill you. Yes, I understand Mike. And then he just flogs us off. I'm sorry, Schmidt, I just had to do it. I'm in spa now waiting from my wife. I'm sure you understand. I do know if I say, I'll talk

to them, I'll understand. I'll explain to Gust I love this woman. and Gus will understand the love of a good woman Do you like the fact they didn't like full on go like Gus is like kissing on a man? Yeah, kiss the wing

touching his booty, holy shit licking on his bad what is that, nothing? You know what's interesting? You go back to Breaking Bad so obviously, you know, the, the Apollos, Hermanos,

the chicken fuckers or whatever. But when Gus invites Walter over to the gaff, there's little, toys in the background which would you know seem to imply that

Gus has a family has kids even though he's a homosexual interesting they can't have kids no it's illegal you know in the eyes of law and man and God it's completely you know I never noticed that that's a nice little you found

you kind of ruined the show there I did yeah you're very good at that aren't you it's my my blessing my curse yeah so how could I'll tell you what, if we had to try and fix it now, what kind of excuse could we have?

I think... He's into shoving ties up his ass. No, I think it's, you know... Nephews and nieces. It's a lot like, you know, being, uh, you know, in the crime syndicate, especially, you know,

Mexican cartels. It's a lot like being Hollywood. Even if you are a buffdy, you have to have a wife and kids just for appearances, you know? Actually, I could have him to believe that where he puts the ties out because he's very meticulous weirdo like that.

Yeah. Like we've seen season six, he gets weird where he's got like the the house with the underground tunnel. yeah yeah that's kind of weird stuff he would do he put the ties there and like very specifically put them where Walt can see them you're like Walt I'm not gay

you can make met for me it's gonna be okay hello I just love pussy did you know would you like to try our new spicy chicken pussy flavor it's disgusting I mean delicious I will not bring the met to the George

I promise do you have a fish sandwich no I'm afraid we do not because I can't stand the spell of fish the spell, the taste I can't be around them when they talk anyway look where are we now

so yeah the German so basically Gus Gus has hired Mike to basically be in charge of overseeing the building of the underground meth lab and they get a bunch of German engineers and Mike's got a little bit of German

connection he kind of forms a little bit of a bond with the guys some of the guys are okay some of the guys are a little bit troublemakers they put these hey they're like Gus okay they are men dudes they're not boys

no they are men with hormones raging through their balls yeah yeah my cock dig tunnels baby you know some people are non-binary

we're full binary yeah yeah full of jizz what is your binary is it is it cool yeah I wouldn't know about binary

is too busy watching the football you know what I'm saying it's called football not footbill right We were close, so. I'm watching the footbill.

Footbill and 10. Excellent. I'm watching the bill. I've been drinking, so I said footbill. Well, you've had half a bottle of beer, Brian. I've had less than that. Well, I had a lot of coffee. What is it, a servesa?

It's a soul something, yeah. Tequila beer. Yeah. They're pretty high percentage, actually, these are. Well, no, they're only 4.2. Yeah, tried to save you there. No. It's quite sad.

I was bringing a girl over recently and I was like, yeah, I got vodka in the house and I looked at her, I didn't have vodka at all so I bought these instead. Very, very cheap watery beers. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, baby, it's just like vodka. Okay, so I assume it was a six pack and there were four here, so what,

you said one each? Yeah, and I didn't drink my, I got a headache. And I was like, I can't get hard now, go home. Maybe if you put the bottle up my ass, that might work. I've gone all gust now. Yeah, yeah, you're using your German engineer brain. Perhaps if you put entire bottle in my ash hole, I will achieve erections for a love-making shot.

Oh, and season four, by the way, we introduce Lalo. Lalo. Awesome guy. Holy shit, this guy is amazing. Mexican Timdy Dalton. Yeah. Yeah. But cooler.

Yes, even cooler, if you believe it. Fantastic performance. He's great. And he's so fun. And for like Breaking Bad and Better Costs all, that whole world, they're great introducing new villains. and he's probably the best they've done like. I think you're right. He's so good at being like, hey,

hey, nothing wrong here. And then shoot something in the head. He's like, hey, that's how it is. He's very charming and likable, but he can switch up. You're terrified and aroused. You are just scared and horny the entire time. Which is what we love.

God, look at that mustache. And those pearly whites. Oh, very symmetrical face. And we like to allow, there's no like the secret origin of Lalo. He's just like, guy, he's like, hey, I'm here, I'm cool. I'm going to shoot you in the head.

You're white cunt I'm a psychopath Yeah And one thing I will say About this show is We're breaking bad People get shot People get shaved

Melted You know It just happens Move on This day When violence happens It feels very real Like

So Lalo kills that guy In the Photoshop Or wherever the fuck Yeah Money Transfer place Yeah It's very funny When he drops down like that

As well yeah Very weird Yeah It's like he is Absolutely no qualms was just like bursting in and killing someone in broad daylight. Yeah, but then like the whole next season then

is like that whole thing, Mr. Guzman, that whole thing were like the family capture him and the court case, the family are there of the little, the kid and the money transfer. And you get to see the family and how sad they are. And it's like you wouldn't see that in other shows.

You're right, yeah, yeah. They go like, this is bad. It's like we're forced to live with the consequences of these acts of violence. Much like Saul. Yeah. And I'll call him. all now, because he's transitioned.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. What? What kind of show is this? No. What culture is affected, Bob Odenkirk? That's what gave him the heart attack. Yeah. He started doing spots in New York again.

Didn't like what he saw. What type of hair is that? Is this a Mr. Show sketch? No, pal. It's the real world. The world is a Mr. Show sketch. this show now. It's their show.

Anyway, yeah, so Lalo's fantastic. Just very, just a great performance. Season five then, you know, a lot of stuff happens with me. We really are glossing over. Well, I mean, if we go, or are fucking like, come with some slack, we're 52 minutes already.

No, I will not cut you slack, sir. Now, go back to the start. Episode one. Reddits. We black and wide opening. Who is this man in a Cinnabon? Perchance? What is a Cinnabon? When was a Cineabon founded?

Well, yeah, no, it's... Have you ever seen the founder? Because it's not about Cinebond. I just have to imagine there's at least one freak who's never watched an episode of Better Call Saul and is still listening. Yeah, jerking off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Whoever you are, you're my kind of people. Thank you. There's a cool dude listening to this while drink driving.

And there's a woman in his backseat. Yeah, he's just reliving the Stan Eminem video in real life. But it's also sad is that. They are Brian and James. I've been writing, but you're not writing back. And I made

this woman suck on me sack. She won't stop crying. So she'll be dying. And Jesse starts bacon in the fridge that's for frying. Please don't call the one. Goodbye. Anyway.

Yeah, that's good. Well, thanks. I got distracted there. On occasion? Hank. We meet Hank Schrader in season. Hank Schrader. Is he only in the one episode?

Just, no, two episodes actually, yeah. Because, you know, like a sad freak, I went back and rewatch Breaking Bad after Better Calls Saw. Because I was in COVID still, so I figure binge it. Yeah. Dean Norris is fantastic. He's great. And he says Beaner or stuff like that. He does.

Yeah. He's awesome, yeah. That's why I'm like as well, you know, but I'm not a detective. He is great. he's very entertaining I kind of wish you got more of them but they give you a little sprinkle right there and Gomez as well

Go me right there Go me yeah yeah everyone Hey kids remember go me Yeah And then we get to great The Bagman episode Which is directed Who was that directed by?

I think Gilligan Okay So Gilligan What he wasn't So the thing is okay It's Villigan Vinnett Gilligan

Vince Gilligan there you go. There you go. I was going to help you, but it's like, no, he's got to learn. It's like, you know, with the cripples on the ground, you don't help him. You know what I mean? I actually, I put my foot on their head until they're fully submerged

in the water. It's like, I'm helping them. Don't worry. You know how to survive puddles. Yeah, yeah. And Peter Gould. So, Gilligan started it with Gould, and he left for a little while, but he would come back, and he came back for full in season six. Okay. But he would come back for certain episodes,

and if he came back and knew something shit shit was gonna go down like so when he comes back for Bagman I remember actually like this is how sad I am I listen for a podcast

listening to a podcast someone was like okay in three weeks from now it's gonna be episode yeah it's directed by Gilligan that's probably going to be awesome I was like

oh I can't wait dude well you know what it was worth the weight it was very very fun fucking that was like one of the best episodes of the entire show like I was like

oh it's just amazing yeah yeah he goes out there to get money shit happens he's just out in the desert drink his own piss like Ed Begley Jr. Like Ed Begley Jr. and Bear Grails

it's just fucking Saul Goodman and Mike Urban Trout wandering through the desert with what is it? 7 million in cash? 7 million, yeah, just dragging it man. Just quite heavy, I would imagine. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They did a good job

and make them look like they were fucking destroyed by your son, yeah, yeah, yeah. Just covering skin cancer. No, was that the episode you reckon that caused a heart attack? No, that was season six. Oh, okay.

Yeah, yeah. Season six, it wouldn't happen. when was bagman four or five five okay uh so then let's just talk about season six we're near the end there so season six is two parts yes first one is almost like weirdly wrapping up the better call soul story yeah yeah yeah and then the second part it just basically jumps forward to breaking bad times yeah well post breaking bad and certain breaking bad trains yeah we don't get to see much of the actual breaking bad world which i get that's fine but i just would have really loved at least one episode where you get to see Saul

in pure sleeves mode he's got the money and the fame and he's just pure sleazy just crushing up Zanis and sniffing them off of Titters's ass Do you think like So you know he's so high energy

Do you think he's just full of Adderall and fucking nonsense Like just drugs and Adderall And he's just like He's just going at 11 nonstop right Yeah yeah He just can switch it off

Yeah exactly Why not like And yeah Yeah, yeah, season six. You think he's got ADHD. It's actually a mental health crisis. Poor Saul Goodman. Yeah.

So, yeah, season six. Now, I do love the fact that they wrapped up pretty quick season six. So, like, Nacho gets shot, like, second episode. Yeah, yeah. Great. I do love the fact of, like, Hector is still shooting him when he's dead. He's, like, banging. Oh, yeah.

He's in a wheelchair. Oh, yeah, and the two twins, the, like, the mute, weird old twins. Yeah. Which are very, it's very silly. It is silly. Like, it's a certain things. things from that or it's like it is a silly thing but we put in this serious world

and I don't know there's silly stuff in this world you know James yeah don't be afraid to be silly but you know it's it's a lot slower pace more methodical then as you said earlier when the moments of extreme violence happen it feels a lot more earned you know what I mean especially like like people get shot all the time

yeah but when uh fucking Howard got shot yeah when Laosho's Howard I was like yeah I jumped up I was like Mexicans one Y E-Zero. I did a Mexican wave

all by myself and I started coughing. And then like just the aftermath of like the fact that like something very power for some reason like when Mike was getting

rid of his body yeah yeah because Mike has a code in this and that was really the first because Mike's whole thing is like the game you're in the game

you're in the game you're in the game it's okay it's okay yeah it's like it's the way Tony Soprano talks about it's like if you're in this life

you're a soldier you're in war you know what I mean yeah there's a code and it's a way to dehumanize and it's like he'd still be like hey no

I killed him but he was in the game as well we're all after his commenting it's like I'm helping my family by doing this you know

I'm not a monster but with this okay you're gonna just fake a suicide for this guy who did nothing his family was his cunt wife

might be a bit sad I don't know but it's just like it's beyond and I think that's when Mike really is like is like

I'm done here I'm done like pretending to be like The good guy? I'm just going to turn it off. I'm beyond reproached now. I can't be saved.

So I'm all in now and there's no going back. I'm going to turn off the whole like, is it good or bad? It's going to do what I'm told. It's going to get drunk and verbally abused my granddaughter for being shit at woodwork. That dovetail joint shit, you stupid cunt.

Fucking come here. Do you remember NAM? Do you? Here, wipe your tears on my cock. Mike, where's Sally? Oh, no, where. We're doing a little project

You know that girl is Sally Condon Who's Sally Condon? Sally Condon plays Mike's daughter-in-law Okay That's Sally, she's an Irish actress Okay Yeah, she's going to be in the Banshee of Inishien Yeah

Well good Yes That's good What's, I remember now Yeah Like the age of the grand daughter That is something that they kind of like They've acknowledged that on

Okay In interviews like Yeah we It doesn't really match up 100% But like we have the actress there and we can't really control that and we kind of like warned ours getting a new one okay fine fair not

it doesn't really match up there is little things like that you know okay yeah yeah I'm nitpicking now sorry you're finding more problems and I love it I love when you find problems with me that's great yeah yeah yeah oh hey it's an endless bounty the gift that keeps on given

even when I feel I'm about to get bored of it I stumble upon something so egregious that it just sort of reinvigor me and energize me. It's like, you really are worth this piece of shit, aren't you, Brian O'Toole? But anyway, we love you for it. Hey.

Hey, Mark Maloney's still paying money. Yeah, he's got to be doing something, right? He's going to keep paying for another six months. But, uh, yeah, so then the black and white part of the season then, it gets very depressing. It's just Gene Tachovic where it's so, yeah, this is kind of post-breaking bad where he's sort of, it's not witness protection,

but it's, you know, he went to the, the vacuum cleaner guy Robert Forrester Robert Forrester They actually They got him That was like the last thing They shot

Yeah So they're filming At El Camino on the same time And they shot that Like there yeah I wonder Should I rewatch El Camino?

I like El Camino a lot I think a lot I think a lot of people didn't like it Because it Again like Saul was like This isn't breaking bad

Yeah But I think Now that you've watched Like All of Saul There's a lot of stuff That you'll be like Oh yeah

Robert Forreter there Oh yeah Yeah I think I will watch Camino. I think that'll change you to everything. Everyone's going to turn around for me after that. It was the final piece in the

jigsaw that was cadden. Yes. Yes. I put that, bang that piece in and I suddenly get enlightenment right there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But then I have a stroke and die. But my trousers fall down and then when the CSI crew come down, it's like, look at his tidy penis.

Oh my God. I'm glad he's dead. Anyway, season six. Yeah, we're actually over an hour right there. Okay. Yeah, yeah. Okay, we'll go a little. Just very quickly It's the black and white part of the season then

We meet Carl Burnett And she's great in it Yeah, she's fantastic I heard she's gonna be in it I didn't expect her You have such an important role Like she finds Saul She basically

Yeah She causes his downfall And one of the best things in it Where it's like Now I mean like Jimmy's always been bad Yeah It was a bit there's like

Is Jimmy going to Strangle Carl Burnett Yeah Like he has the fucking phone cord there And she's gonna call And he doesn't and I don't think even he I think that's the thing

where after he's like was I going to do that yeah there was a moment where it's like am I capable of actually killing someone with my bare hands

which I don't understand weird here but I was on Kett recently and I was in this place I was looking at this woman I couldn't help thinking out how like she was just worthless

you know like you know what I mean you know what I'm just like looking at there like you know she's very hot and I was like that's a very hot woman and I was like

just so many hot there's literally millions of hot women out there yeah who cares like you're work your scum you're just worthless scum like

if all you have to offer is pleasing aesthetics yeah I was looking around everywhere like just like eight million eight billion people out there like everyone's is worthless life is so shit wow Kett seems to be doing

wonders for you I couldn't stop thinking about it I just fucking despise everyone here and were you loving it no it wasn't what's funny is it's being used as an antidepressant but Eric

keep going this is good so you were having this moment of clarity I was just like this woman's shit yeah this woman's so

what is she hot symmetrical face I don't give a fuck I took a brick to her face she'd be nothing yeah yeah

I'm better somehow I haven't figured out yeah I've got a podcast and then you start thinking about me oh my god

oh fucking workless cut you know what everyone's just a pawn I'm playing the game and we're going to find Nippy Nippy? Nippy, the dog

That's what Gene's looking for Oh, that's Carol Burnett's dog Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah, yeah Oh no, no, it's not He's pretending he lost Nippy, yeah But yeah, I do like, I need to do more Kett now Yeah, I do, I'm near a breakthrough right there Do it every day, I think, you know,

But you know how they say micro dosing, that's pussy shit That's ways the time That's not pussy dosing Yeah, yeah, yeah, macro baby, yeah You know what else again? get macro, you're cock. Yeah, just do loads of cat four times a day. And finally

then last episode, what do you think about the final finale? Where he gets caught? Again, like, I was expecting someone a big chase at the end. He just hides a dumpster and gets found. Yeah, that's it. That was great. It was pathetic because he has the diamonds and they spill

everywhere and he's trying to call the number and the cops are just like, they even knock on it's like, anybody home? As if to say, you're a retard for hiding in a dumpster. Exactly, yeah. Yeah. I was like, no.

It's a real pathetic moment. Yeah, and he gets caught. And then there's a little bit when he's in jail where he's like, oh, I know the legal system. Yeah. He basically, he talks them down from maximum penalty to seven years in a minimum security prison. So he basically, it's a sweetheart deal. Yeah.

He's managed to negotiate this sweetheart deal. But then... The bitch. Yeah. The whole. Now, Kim has done a very selfish thing She's admitted her crimes Why do you think about Kim's life

But why do you think of Kim getting banged by that guy I love that, yeah, that was great She's just like, eh, yeah You can tell she's just totally detached and empty She married some fucking loser in Florida She obviously feels nothing for him I love that kind of like weird

kind of surreal like her Very kind of like David Lynchy in a way The horror of Mundae And she's just sort of sitting there with her group of friends and they're talking and you can tell basically she's like you on Kett she's just there thinking these people are worthless

I could strangle them all and feel nothing and yeah but then eventually the guilt gets to her so she contacts Howard's wife because they made it look like Howard killed himself yes yeah fake to suicide yeah but then she confessed the old thing and then we have the great scene

of her crying on a bus yeah yeah yeah she just has a breakdown which is great actually incredible performance because the whole time she's very together reserved even in moments of you know pure chaos she still holds it together pretty well but she has this breakdown in the bus

so then she confesses to the crime and then when Jimmy McGill aka Saul hears that he decides you know what fuck the seven year plea deal I'm going to actually admit my crime to absolve her so basically he cocks out

and gets like 87 years in prison yes now obviously my initial knee-jerk reaction was like, ah, what the fuck? Because that's, you know, his entire mode of being has always been self-preservation.

As Lalo said, he is like a little like cockroach. He will always survive. He has that survival instinct and he does, but also he's been battling, I'm not actually slipping Jimmy to my core.

I am better than that. But, you know, we just have so much evidence that, you know, no, you're not actually better than that. And your internal mode of being is this slipping Jimmy self-preservation. I just, you know, it is a sort of nice little rosy, you know, rose-tinted glasses that he would decide to actually, for his love of Kim Wexler. And that is a very nice thing.

Personally, I don't feel that that's what the character would do. I think, realistically. You know what it is, it's almost like if a paedophile admits he's a paedophile and gets castrated, it's kind of like there's like, I know. know I am going to do some bad shit again I cannot stop it literally I cannot control myself James this is a confession

but it's like I just I like that I like the eye contact the crying Toulor's really committing to the bid here I need it cut off you're right actually that's something I didn't consider he's like he knows he'll never be able to stop if he gets out in seven years he'll just keep doing the same

shit but it's also like a junkie it's like like Zach is like I'm going to end up like that fat actor from boogie nights what's that wordless cunt Julianne Moore Philip Seymour Hoffman It's like

I'm going to die out there Yeah It's not a question of if It's like I'm going to end up Either back in jail There's no way for it or dead You're right You're tortured by

So he might as well Do this to save Kim I'm safe in here I'm kind of well liked in here as well You know That's one thing he did like The fact that like the prisoners Are like

We know you Yeah Also yeah He probably would have become a meme in a way an interesting moment on the bus where they all started shunting Better call so you're right

and because the whole prison system it's all about grifting there's drug deals stabbing convicts gang rapes you can have a whale of a time in there you know how many gang rapes they could trade for cigarettes that's how it works I'll give you a pack of lucky strikes

if I let 12 of you come in my mouth simultaneously break my teeth Yeah, if you think you can fit more in there, please. You know? I drive a hard bargain. I just need that sweet, sweet nicotine, baby. But yeah, no, you're right.

That's an aspect of it I hadn't considered. I just immediately went like, they made him a cook. Oh, that's not cool. That's not Libbiscuit. They're probably going to make Saul Neil for the National Anthem as well. No, but you're right, though. He's kind of like, I might as well, because I'll never stop.

So, yeah. You're right. It does work. It makes sense. I'm an idiot, fuck me. I like the way, I like the way, I like the end of the day.

You're happy now, Brian? Yeah, it's more, it's more bittersweet. Like, I was thinking, like, how would I like it to end? And I was thinking, what I was just, like, killed.

You know what I was actually expecting, by the way? I thought to, you know what, if I was writing there? Yeah. If I was putting money down. Yeah.

I was thinking that Jimmy would get killed in the penultimate episode. Okay. In a real violent, it was kind of sad way, you know? And then it's all about Kim

and last. End at Bernie. I know, I'm Jimmy Biggie. And the last house would be all about Kim. Okay. They'd be like, actually the show's all about Kim, you fools. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It turns out those cons know what had the writer's TV show, yeah, yeah, yeah.

To be honest, and then when I think about it, okay, so if they hadn't ended it the way they did, what's the alternative? He gets out in seven years, keeps going again and just dies in some hijinks. It makes more sense. Because the more realistic ending really is. Like, he turns out he's some fat guy in a cassette. Sino, who's like, do you like, do you like these, do you? It's like, who, what? Yeah.

I got my, I got a Nigerian uncle and he's got money. You have to buy this watch. And they're like, get away from me. It's like that. It just becomes a sad fucking nonsense. Yeah, true. No, I think it does end perfectly now that I think about it. And I'm an idiot for having doubted Peter Gould and Finn Skilligan.

I'm glad I convinced you. Yeah, yeah. No, but a great show. A 10 out 10 show. I fucking loved it. A 10 out of 10. A show that I will definitely watch again. stage

I sometimes shows I'm like someday I'll be in a nursing home watching this and I'll smile and then drop the remote

Rose bud yeah and just you ring a bell and then flatline I do the gun symbols to a nurse you say what

but anyway yeah a fantastic show great we gloss over a lot there six seasons there. How many episodes? It was one episode

more than Breaking Bad. Okay, right, right, right, cool. There was a point of thing said it has to be one more episode. Yeah, just to really stick in Brian Cranston's crawl. Oh, and we also, like, very quickly, we got to see the two guys again.

Oh, that was fun, actually. Yeah, it was fun. Especially, I did love the bit in the RV from his point of view. I was like, yeah, it would be fucking terrifying. You don't really think about that. Like, yeah, and he did say that

in the original show. He said it was Lalo's in Ignitio. It must have me. It was Ignacio and Lalo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then these two characters who are just so monumental

in this series. And Gilligan's flat house said, like, yeah, we just made up some names. Of course, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's so easy from like... Two Beiner names that we'll never think of again.

It was Beiner and Beiner. We have fun here. Yeah, we should do. But it was fun to see him, yeah. And like, they've said, like, this is definitely the last time. We can't keep doing this. No, I think they're right.

I think this is the perfect end. I did I did really love like So the Jesse thing was him with Kim And yeah that was good You could have gone a little bit I was you always really expecting I expected them say something like Kim I'm like hey Jesse you should break bad

I was especially like oh no But you did it just right I really loved how Like they made Walter White In the last episode there It looked like a real fucking asshole fucking weirdo Like yeah

Just trying to fix something Just being like an asshole Yeah it's like That is completely a lot question, you know my foo. But also you go back to Break A Bad and it was actually Saul that kind of really forced

Walter White's hands like, look, there is serious money to be made, but then eventually Walter turns into such a megalomaniac that Saul is scared of him, you know? You know what I forgot about completely, someone reminded me? The bit we're like he's trying to flirt with a teacher where Walter Weiss was a

That's so funny, he actually leans in the shifter. Who, by the way, her name's Carmen? Fucking smoke show. Yeah, I know. Imagine she was the principal of a high school. You'd be like, holy fuck. Kids would not be able to do anything like.

No, not at all. You jerk it off, none stuff. But yeah, that's like, that's what I liked about bringing about it a bit, like, Walter White was not cool and they weren't afraid everyone were gonna show him like. And he was a dork. Like the bit in the bar as well, it was at Mike

and Mike just punched him in the face, you know? Yeah, yeah. This little bits like that was like, yeah, you're just that fucking weird, fucking, you're a loser. You are a sap. Yeah. Your child's a bongo. You're a sap.

because you do chemistry does not mean you're like street smarts, you know. Anyway, I think that's basically yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll do Nope a different day. Yeah, nope, I need to read more about Nope, and I might watch on the big screen with a girl perhaps, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, per chance,

maybe. You'll have to be explaining things to her the whole time. Don't worry, he's on the screen, he can't hurt you. That's an Asian, Asian. Anyway, yeah, so any else you want to say before we go? no thanks for listening if you haven't seen better calls all i don't know why you're still listening but

i appreciate it complete jibb just watch six seasons and get back to me yeah yeah yeah yeah and you know it's funny if they they did try to come up to me in real life and talk about it but like get away from me though you freak yeah there's a lot freaks out there yeah there sure is oh we'll get to that later on yeah yeah good luck goodbye