Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 189 : The Mark Moloney Show
Episode Date: March 11, 2023Mark Moloney in the gaff boys...
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                                        We are recording.
                                         
                                        All right, perfect.
                                         
                                        So it's a free episode today, guys, and we have a special guest.
                                         
                                        So it's James Caden and also...
                                         
                                        Mark Maloney.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it was a great start right there.
                                         
                                        Very professional.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I was saying to start, maybe we might have to cut out to start
                                         
    
                                        because it might be all kind of stupid and awkward.
                                         
                                        You were kind of like, Mark, don't worry, if you fuck up the intro,
                                         
                                        which you most likely will, you're worth this piece of shit.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        That's exactly what he said.
                                         
                                        And you took the chair as well, which I kind of wanted the chair.
                                         
                                        I said...
                                         
                                        Did you notice a little mind game we tried to do in you there?
                                         
    
                                        said, do you want the shitty chair
                                         
                                        or the big awesome bed?
                                         
                                        He thought he had really, like, you know,
                                         
                                        that was his, like, Anthony Hopkins
                                         
                                        in silence of the lambs moment is that?
                                         
                                        But what I should have done is...
                                         
                                        I threw jizz on your face as you walked in.
                                         
                                        No, what I should have done is
                                         
    
                                        gone the extra layer, so you're a very nice person.
                                         
                                        Should be like, do you want the uncomfortable
                                         
                                        of the bed or the lovely chair? And you
                                         
                                        would be, you're so nice. You've got to play,
                                         
                                        you got to use your strengths as your weaknesses.
                                         
                                        You know? You said that you were normally around
                                         
                                        the bed. And I wanted to preserve the regular magic.
                                         
                                        yeah well look it's good start anyway uh tall guy actually i'm a live man yeah yeah how tall are you
                                         
    
                                        about six three six three that's a good height i don't really carry myself like it though i kind of
                                         
                                        have a short man's energy i i've small dick energy so we've all got something and what you
                                         
                                        you're a big man as well i'm very much the odd man out here people think i'm taller than i am
                                         
                                        because they're looking at me sideways people think i'm like over six foot i'm not i'm like
                                         
                                        511 and change I've been told
                                         
                                        You know what you have small man energy
                                         
                                        James very much is like big dog energy
                                         
                                        You walk into a room people are scared
                                         
    
                                        Only only to you
                                         
                                        Everyone else sees me as a weak
                                         
                                        Impetitent pathetic little worm
                                         
                                        But then I come in
                                         
                                        And Brian's like
                                         
                                        Oh look at that big man
                                         
                                        Yeah that's right
                                         
                                        No when I was a, it gave me like a curved spine
                                         
    
                                        So I have a pretty bad back
                                         
                                        And when I was a child
                                         
                                        I went to the doctor
                                         
                                        And my GP used to be Leah Varadker's dad
                                         
                                        Really? Mr. Varan
                                         
                                        used to be his dad
                                         
                                        retired from being his dad
                                         
                                        He's retired from making a doctor
                                         
    
                                        and I guess
                                         
                                        You're a idiot
                                         
                                        Sorry
                                         
                                        That was fun
                                         
                                        It could have gone way worse
                                         
                                        I guess
                                         
                                        Oh I could have
                                         
                                        Yeah we got through it
                                         
    
                                        Oh boy
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Gentle
                                         
                                        Yeah he would
                                         
                                        He would just like
                                         
                                        Say it's because you're too fat
                                         
                                        You'd say
                                         
                                        It's because you're too fat
                                         
    
                                        And then he would hand me a Milky Way
                                         
                                        as I was leaving
                                         
                                        He would like feed me chocolate
                                         
                                        At the doctor
                                         
                                        Oh he was nagging you
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        He was wrissing you
                                         
                                        He was like, yeah, you can either lose weight or we can have the surgery where we could open your spine and break your back.
                                         
    
                                        And I was like, oh, I guess I'll just do neither.
                                         
                                        It's not a real surgery, is it? Was he fucking, was he risen here?
                                         
                                        No, yeah, he was like, yeah, he was like, yeah, he was like, yeah, he was like, yeah, he was like, yeah, he was like, yeah, I've got, yeah, that's like, cut up in your back and, I've got, yeah, I've got on, yeah, I've gotten up in the face.
                                         
                                        No, don't look him in the eye, it's a sign of weakness. Yeah, yeah, yeah, look like a big man.
                                         
                                        And what's the crack of you?
                                         
                                        What do you do?
                                         
                                        Yeah, I was realizing that this could be kind of strange
                                         
                                        because we don't really know each other very well.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, we actually talk.
                                         
                                        We actually don't know anything about you at all.
                                         
                                        No. I met Jason Brennan and Kevin Larnie at a show one time
                                         
                                        and they referenced that like I get a lot of mentions on the podcast.
                                         
                                        You know what?
                                         
                                        It's totally through being a Patreon man.
                                         
                                        You know what?
                                         
                                        I think your name has a nice ring to it.
                                         
    
                                        Mark Maloney, you know, it hits the air just right.
                                         
                                        I like it.
                                         
                                        My old Mark Maloney, full of baloney.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        So what's the correct of you then?
                                         
                                        What, you work?
                                         
                                        I work, yeah.
                                         
                                        You don't have to reveal too much, though.
                                         
    
                                        You don't reveal like, you know,
                                         
                                        where your mother lives or anything.
                                         
                                        The Mac Maloney lore?
                                         
                                        Yeah, the lore, yeah.
                                         
                                        So I was, I think people think I'm quite new to the scene a lot of the time.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        But I was actually here, like, years ago.
                                         
                                        Really?
                                         
    
                                        I started doing stand-up in 2015, 17, 70 years ago.
                                         
                                        In the good old days.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        It was back when you really go, what?
                                         
                                        It's like Hollywood in the 80s, you know, you really go wild in every sense.
                                         
                                        Yeah, well, yeah.
                                         
                                        Like, it was like, I'm like friends at Davey Riley on Facebook.
                                         
                                        You know what I mean?
                                         
    
                                        Oh, that sort of.
                                         
                                        Oh, I'm a friend of the show.
                                         
                                        I'm working.
                                         
                                        You probably wouldn't describe yourself that way, but.
                                         
                                        I'm working my way up to it.
                                         
                                        But, uh, then when I came, so I, I, yeah, I was in college in Dublin, and then I did stuff around the scene then.
                                         
                                        And then I moved to Scotland.
                                         
                                        I did a, I did a PhD in Scotland.
                                         
    
                                        So you've got a PhD?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And what, in what field?
                                         
                                        Chemistry.
                                         
                                        I remember you told me that, actually.
                                         
                                        You told me all this stuff and I've forgotten it over the years.
                                         
                                        It's coming back to me now.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, it's not super.
                                         
                                        And you're working in Cork.
                                         
                                        No, working Cork, yeah.
                                         
                                        Nice.
                                         
                                        It's okay.
                                         
                                        I came back because I didn't want to be in a long-distance relationship anymore.
                                         
                                        And then I was promptly dumped.
                                         
                                        Where was she?
                                         
    
                                        She was in Dublin, the whole time.
                                         
                                        Oh, that's not too late.
                                         
                                        You know what?
                                         
                                        The older I get, the lazier I get, where I was trying to see a girl there.
                                         
                                        She lived in like Black Rock.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        I was like, ah, this is fucking show you.
                                         
                                        I can't do this now.
                                         
    
                                        It's a bit awkward.
                                         
                                        Also, she cheated on me, but it was mostly because of the location.
                                         
                                        It was mostly cut up at that.
                                         
                                        black rock and black yeah
                                         
                                        come on now
                                         
                                        don't debate yourself like that
                                         
                                        but yeah so
                                         
                                        thank you for being here
                                         
    
                                        it's nice to have
                                         
                                        another person to
                                         
                                        you know so the hatred
                                         
                                        and the resentment we have to like
                                         
                                        hide it a bit better you know
                                         
                                        yeah well also sometimes
                                         
                                        think when people come in they're kind of amazed by like
                                         
                                        the tension in the room
                                         
    
                                        yeah yeah we don't look
                                         
                                        we don't make eye contact you know we're all looking
                                         
                                        fucking I thought you were I thought you were
                                         
                                        I think a lot of people think we're, like, good friends or whatever.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Oh, boy, that ain't the truth.
                                         
                                        No speaking until the microphones are turned on.
                                         
                                        It was very dense.
                                         
    
                                        Pretty much.
                                         
                                        Now, I know you can't talk too much about it,
                                         
                                        but I do know you were involved in the court case recently.
                                         
                                        We won't get too involved.
                                         
                                        Some busy bodies sticking their big in where it's not wanted.
                                         
                                        Some woman, you said something.
                                         
                                        But anyway, look, I know.
                                         
                                        I'm joking.
                                         
    
                                        I will say, I did watch a movie.
                                         
                                        This is not related.
                                         
                                        Pure Quinstance called Runaway Jury.
                                         
                                        Which is about a juror member
                                         
                                        who gets into a spot of bother.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So we can talk about that.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's me.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, we can also talk about a movie called Fall.
                                         
                                        Oh, I haven't.
                                         
                                        You haven't watched that?
                                         
                                        No, I have, though.
                                         
                                        No one has.
                                         
                                        And we also watch Godfather too,
                                         
                                        but I think that's a bit too,
                                         
                                        no one wants to talk with that, like,
                                         
    
                                        but I don't want to monopolize...
                                         
                                        It's very powerful position
                                         
                                        he puts himself in, isn't it?
                                         
                                        That, like, he's like,
                                         
                                        I'm going to bring three tops of conversation
                                         
                                        where no one else knows anything about them.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But I don't want to monopolize the conversation
                                         
    
                                        So we can talk about anything you want to talk about
                                         
                                        You know, but
                                         
                                        We'll kind of start talking
                                         
                                        And then we can swing into like more kind of your territory
                                         
                                        Well, I'll say this
                                         
                                        You're just you're fresh off a big competition win
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Show me the funny winner 2023
                                         
    
                                        Oh yeah
                                         
                                        That's pretty sweet
                                         
                                        Congratulations
                                         
                                        Thanks very much
                                         
                                        You showed the funny
                                         
                                        I showed them the funny
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        And what did you want a good prize
                                         
    
                                        Didn't you?
                                         
                                        Yeah I get to do EP this year
                                         
                                        That's great yeah
                                         
                                        It's pretty good
                                         
                                        you're basically like
                                         
                                        who's like
                                         
                                        you and fucking
                                         
                                        title of the creator
                                         
    
                                        and team
                                         
                                        team and pomp
                                         
                                        10 Paul A
                                         
                                        me and Billy Elish
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Billy
                                         
                                        That's so many people
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
    
                                        I tell you
                                         
                                        If you're talking to
                                         
                                        Billy Elish
                                         
                                        Just tell her this
                                         
                                        Knock off that
                                         
                                        Weird shit
                                         
                                        Why you're being all
                                         
                                        Weird and goth
                                         
    
                                        It's like
                                         
                                        Bitch you're a multi-millionaire
                                         
                                        What are you sad about
                                         
                                        We're clothes to fit
                                         
                                        Make them tight
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Dressing like a
                                         
                                        B-boy in the 80s. What are you doing?
                                         
    
                                        But I'm very happy for you. It's good to
                                         
                                        because you're like a BJ boy. You're a fan of the show.
                                         
                                        I'm a fan of the show, yeah, yeah. You're a follower.
                                         
                                        We're called B.J. Boys, yeah. Nobody else. We just call you that.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Brian and James Fuckers, yeah.
                                         
                                        No woman has ever been a fan of the show. So I guess we'll cross
                                         
                                        that bridge when we come to it. There's one woman who's a fan, but she's
                                         
    
                                        a ward now.
                                         
                                        B.J. person? A B.J. person, maybe?
                                         
                                        Yeah, okay. It's like, you know what he used to call a woman, dude.
                                         
                                        It's a very non-gendered term.
                                         
                                        I mean, we call him dude and bro
                                         
                                        And what is the breakdown
                                         
                                        What's the demo breakdown?
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
    
                                        It's mostly white
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        White angry men
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        I didn't even
                                         
                                        Consider it being anything other than white
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        It's 90%
                                         
    
                                        We have a girl from like Arizona
                                         
                                        No way
                                         
                                        Oh yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        She's pretty cool now
                                         
                                        She's got a lot of opinions
                                         
                                        See Brian Brian is kind of
                                         
    
                                        He's the one that gets to talk to the fans
                                         
                                        I'm not allowed to do that
                                         
                                        He would upset you
                                         
                                        Yeah you're right
                                         
                                        They tell me things
                                         
                                        I'm like
                                         
                                        I'll just
                                         
                                        We can't
                                         
    
                                        We do
                                         
                                        Yeah there's some people
                                         
                                        I feel bad
                                         
                                        Some people like
                                         
                                        Will like message a lot
                                         
                                        And I won't respond
                                         
                                        And they'll be like
                                         
                                        You know
                                         
    
                                        Oh I love the fact
                                         
                                        You don't respond
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        That's good
                                         
                                        I love the
                                         
                                        That's palpable contempt
                                         
                                        You have for
                                         
    
                                        We have a very small
                                         
                                        But dedicated fan base
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        A very small
                                         
                                        But dedicated
                                         
                                        And we treat them like shit
                                         
                                        Like the things
                                         
                                        We do
                                         
    
                                        The Paul and Marsh
                                         
                                        It's disgusting
                                         
                                        Yeah man
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        throw egg on his face.
                                         
                                        Yeah, Paul Marr,
                                         
                                        he's been a long time supporter as well.
                                         
                                        It's nice, you know.
                                         
    
                                        A few firemen.
                                         
                                        Like, he got a few firemen involved in the show.
                                         
                                        That's right.
                                         
                                        Yeah, Jesus Christ.
                                         
                                        These are the people
                                         
                                        we're trusting to put out fires
                                         
                                        and orphanages.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        They're just like spraying fire with a hose.
                                         
                                        Ha, ha, ha, Cadden's doing this black voice again.
                                         
                                        Alarious.
                                         
                                        So, Mark, so you left comedy.
                                         
                                        I didn't leave,
                                         
                                        you went by the wayside, you know?
                                         
                                        You weren't doing in Scotland, were you?
                                         
                                        I was doing it in, like,
                                         
    
                                        I was in a small university town
                                         
                                        so it was like
                                         
                                        Not a lot of to do beyond just the term time
                                         
                                        stuff
                                         
                                        So I do it like once every couple of weeks
                                         
                                        Well here's saying though
                                         
                                        You have a real confidence on stage
                                         
                                        And you have a lack of fear
                                         
    
                                        Which I'm giving you a compliment
                                         
                                        Alright
                                         
                                        Yeah no that's good
                                         
                                        So if I had your act
                                         
                                        I'd be terrified
                                         
                                        I'd be really embarrassed
                                         
                                        If I did the things you did
                                         
                                        No I'm just saying like I still have
                                         
    
                                        Oh you're great
                                         
                                        You're great
                                         
                                        If I'm trying a new bit
                                         
                                        Or something like that
                                         
                                        I think I still very much
                                         
                                        Reveal the fear on stage
                                         
                                        You know, a little bit like, um, uh, yeah, ha ha, like that.
                                         
                                        Huh, it worked.
                                         
    
                                        Like that.
                                         
                                        Or, you know, well, like, for you, I feel like you, you, you hide that better.
                                         
                                        If you do have any fear at all, you do like it.
                                         
                                        I think, um, uh, I very much so do like a, uh, it's like a bit of a persona,
                                         
                                        a bit of a character on stage, I suppose.
                                         
                                        And I think I always find that that makes it a lot easier to be willing to fail.
                                         
                                        Because then, like, uh, if someone doesn't like it, it doesn't feel like they don't like me.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Or they don't like my opinions because I don't give any of my opinions and I don't like do
                                         
                                        anything that's really that personal to me.
                                         
                                        Sometimes, I don't know, as I said, I got dumped
                                         
                                        So I had, that was it a good, like, five minutes
                                         
                                        Was that, was that bad dump?
                                         
                                        It was pretty funny dump.
                                         
                                        Sure.
                                         
                                        It was like, on my birthday.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, this seems pretty bad.
                                         
                                        It was, we were together for five years.
                                         
                                        She popped out of a cake and said, it's over.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I did, the bit that I, I don't know,
                                         
                                        not to do stand-up at you, but like, go, go for me.
                                         
                                        It was like, we were together for five years.
                                         
                                        It was my birthday on, like, Wednesday, the 5th October.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Then we went to, on like, a trip to Edinburgh.
                                         
                                        as like a for a birthday thing that weekend
                                         
                                        right and then like we went to see
                                         
                                        she brought me for a dinner so we went to
                                         
                                        get like an Indian restaurant right
                                         
                                        that was nice and we went to see the book of Mormon
                                         
                                        okay and a woman like nearly died
                                         
                                        like two rows of front of us really she paid
                                         
    
                                        and that to get carded out and they have to stop the show
                                         
                                        and it was very funny quite quite the
                                         
                                        foreshadowing moment really in hindsight
                                         
                                        but uh what an inconvenience
                                         
                                        it was it was like because loads of people were like
                                         
                                        looking around because obviously we knew right
                                         
                                        we could reach out and touch here so we knew that
                                         
                                        something serious was happening yeah but lots of other people
                                         
    
                                        like what the fuck's going on
                                         
                                        I think this woman might be
                                         
                                        dead like you're fucking dope
                                         
                                        Matt and
                                         
                                        Trey did something very cool here
                                         
                                        you're fucking ruining it
                                         
                                        it's very okay I don't know
                                         
                                        maybe I have tainted opinions of it now
                                         
    
                                        maybe from the dump yeah I tell you I saw
                                         
                                        Book of Mormon I wasn't overly blown
                                         
                                        away but kind of not as bad
                                         
                                        as that but there were like some people behind us
                                         
                                        who had seen the show before
                                         
                                        and they were saying the punch lines
                                         
                                        before the it was
                                         
                                        delivered on stage and they were laughing
                                         
    
                                        such obnoxious laughter
                                         
                                        it was really disgusting you hate women
                                         
                                        laughing oh my god I really do
                                         
                                        that's way worse than the old lady dying
                                         
                                        she was an old lady dying
                                         
                                        yeah she's just wearing too big of a coat and it's like
                                         
                                        sorry it's got warm they refused to sign her
                                         
                                        blue ray of basketball and she just
                                         
    
                                        had convulsions then you know
                                         
                                        fucking orgasm orgasm
                                         
                                        yes
                                         
                                        so anyway they dumped then
                                         
                                        could she not have waited until after the birthday
                                         
                                        that's the thing man like we got back to
                                         
                                        We got back to the Airbnb
                                         
                                        And like everything was fine
                                         
    
                                        We had like a nice evening
                                         
                                        And everything was totally cool
                                         
                                        And she goes
                                         
                                        She goes really quiet
                                         
                                        And I'm like
                                         
                                        She's like
                                         
                                        She's like
                                         
                                        I don't want to do this anymore
                                         
    
                                        I'm breaking up with you
                                         
                                        Damn
                                         
                                        And I was
                                         
                                        I was like
                                         
                                        Why I asked her
                                         
                                        I said
                                         
                                        Why didn't you
                                         
                                        Like why now
                                         
    
                                        Why do you think that this is the best moment
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        And I was like
                                         
                                        We have to hang out
                                         
                                        an Airbnb now for 12 hours
                                         
                                        We just have to chill out together
                                         
    
                                        And she was like
                                         
                                        I didn't know when else to do it
                                         
                                        I couldn't think of a better time to do it
                                         
                                        And I was like literally any other day
                                         
                                        It's a one in three six five chance
                                         
                                        Of getting the worst day
                                         
                                        And she just nailed it
                                         
                                        It was unbelievable
                                         
    
                                        Just out at the park
                                         
                                        It's the worst days
                                         
                                        It's like Christmas, your birthday
                                         
                                        And like when your granny dies
                                         
                                        It's like the worst day
                                         
                                        It was just like we happen to be stuck
                                         
                                        It's like we have to sleep
                                         
                                        In the same bed now
                                         
    
                                        I'm always interested
                                         
                                        Stop me if she's getting a bit
                                         
                                        personal now
                                         
                                        but like
                                         
                                        I don't care
                                         
                                        like
                                         
                                        did anything
                                         
                                        happen
                                         
    
                                        and is there
                                         
                                        like an agreement
                                         
                                        like you know
                                         
                                        like a goodbye
                                         
                                        bang
                                         
                                        yes
                                         
                                        oh well
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
    
                                        I guess
                                         
                                        I guess the
                                         
                                        the joke
                                         
                                        that I do
                                         
                                        is people
                                         
                                        always ask
                                         
                                        like oh
                                         
                                        Mark was that
                                         
    
                                        not really
                                         
                                        awkward
                                         
                                        and like yeah
                                         
                                        obviously
                                         
                                        and like
                                         
                                        do you just have
                                         
                                        to spend
                                         
                                        the night together
                                         
    
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        did you have
                                         
                                        sex one last time
                                         
                                        no
                                         
                                        oh
                                         
                                        okay
                                         
                                        I did I
                                         
                                        did I did
                                         
    
                                        broke it
                                         
                                        in the way
                                         
                                        of like
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
                                        it'd be pretty
                                         
                                        taboo
                                         
                                        if you had
                                         
                                        sex
                                         
    
                                        what if you had
                                         
                                        sex with your ex
                                         
                                        that'd be
                                         
                                        like 10 minutes,
                                         
                                        your ex of 10 minutes.
                                         
                                        It might be crazy.
                                         
                                        Why I'd do is I start jerking off.
                                         
                                        I wouldn't let her look at it.
                                         
    
                                        You don't get none of this, no more.
                                         
                                        She's been punished.
                                         
                                        I'm in the toilet,
                                         
                                        be like, oh, I wish you could open this door right now.
                                         
                                        I take it back.
                                         
                                        I take it back.
                                         
                                        I swallowed the key.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it was just really awkward.
                                         
    
                                        And then we just like went to the airport together
                                         
                                        and we left you took out at the airport
                                         
                                        and that was it.
                                         
                                        No communication or anything.
                                         
                                        When did this happen?
                                         
                                        October.
                                         
                                        So it was very recent.
                                         
                                        relatively recently
                                         
    
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        wow
                                         
                                        that is very much
                                         
                                        something
                                         
                                        you should be
                                         
                                        annoyed that
                                         
                                        like this is like
                                         
                                        if I'm breaking up
                                         
    
                                        with someone
                                         
                                        I try my best
                                         
                                        to not do
                                         
                                        on her birthday
                                         
                                        I was really
                                         
                                        I was really nice
                                         
                                        about it
                                         
                                        I thought in the moment
                                         
    
                                        I was like
                                         
                                        she was crying
                                         
                                        and I was like
                                         
                                        consoling her
                                         
                                        and she kept
                                         
                                        she kept saying like
                                         
                                        you're not
                                         
                                        you're taking this quite well
                                         
    
                                        and I was like
                                         
                                        yeah I don't know
                                         
                                        I guess like
                                         
                                        I'm not gonna get upset
                                         
                                        now because we're
                                         
                                        stuck in a room
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
    
                                        but I was like
                                         
                                        doing bits at her
                                         
                                        I was like
                                         
                                        this is kind of
                                         
                                        I was like
                                         
                                        this is like
                                         
                                        this is like when
                                         
                                        someone has a really
                                         
    
                                        old dog
                                         
                                        and they bring it to the beach
                                         
                                        one last time
                                         
                                        before they shoot it
                                         
                                        Our relationship's dead
                                         
                                        I didn't even know
                                         
                                        it was sick
                                         
                                        I didn't even know it was sick
                                         
    
                                        I didn't even know
                                         
                                        our relationship's out on the farm
                                         
                                        now
                                         
                                        do you have a good relationship
                                         
                                        we're now
                                         
                                        I haven't spoken to her
                                         
                                        no course though
                                         
                                        I actually
                                         
    
                                        I posted five minutes
                                         
                                        to start
                                         
                                        like I didn't tell any of my friends
                                         
                                        I didn't tell friends for ages
                                         
                                        and then I was like
                                         
                                        oh I'm coming back to Dublin
                                         
                                        for Christmas
                                         
                                        I better like
                                         
    
                                        announce it in some way
                                         
                                        But I was getting tired of just texting it
                                         
                                        And then getting these messages
                                         
                                        That were like, oh, sorry to hear
                                         
                                        And it's like, it didn't actually console you in any way
                                         
                                        It just felt like opening a wound over it
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah
                                         
                                        So I am, I just posted this clip on Instagram
                                         
    
                                        Of like five minutes of me talking about it
                                         
                                        And it's like, I don't know, it's not like,
                                         
                                        I try not to be like bitter or mean or anything about it
                                         
                                        You should be dull
                                         
                                        Ah, I don't know
                                         
                                        To one end, like to one end
                                         
                                        Listen to me, I'll help it up
                                         
                                        I'm like anti-Hitch
                                         
    
                                        I'm the best of breakups
                                         
                                        I don't know
                                         
                                        I guess I was looking for no real beef
                                         
                                        Did that get much engagement
                                         
                                        It did among my friends
                                         
                                        Because like as I said
                                         
                                        Like I didn't really tell that many of my friends
                                         
                                        So a lot of them were like
                                         
    
                                        Ha is that real
                                         
                                        Like is that real?
                                         
                                        But it did result in
                                         
                                        The like unfollowing by all of her friends
                                         
                                        Like all of her friends
                                         
                                        I think I had unfollow them first
                                         
                                        But I like didn't block them
                                         
                                        Because I was like I want that ratio
                                         
    
                                        No you're getting punished
                                         
                                        But you can't look up with her friends pictures anymore
                                         
                                        That's okay
                                         
                                        That's fine
                                         
                                        Oh you're like that is it
                                         
                                        I don't really mind.
                                         
                                        We're a bit too mean here
                                         
                                        but like that is something like
                                         
    
                                        Well condolences that's awful
                                         
                                        I'm very sorry
                                         
                                        It's good
                                         
                                        Like she cried
                                         
                                        It's very emotionally
                                         
                                        She's manipulative I think
                                         
                                        Yes
                                         
                                        Gats lighting you
                                         
    
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        No she was nice
                                         
                                        She was nice
                                         
                                        Like the last year was difficult
                                         
                                        I would say
                                         
                                        When I was funny
                                         
                                        Because we were
                                         
                                        Oh you drinking
                                         
    
                                        And I actually returned to Dublin
                                         
                                        It was like
                                         
                                        Way worse
                                         
                                        It was a much worse time
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Was it kind of a mutual
                                         
                                        Like kind of you're drifting
                                         
                                        I don't think
                                         
    
                                        It was a mutual drifting
                                         
                                        I think I was really
                                         
                                        Wanting it to work
                                         
                                        and then I was
                                         
                                        I don't know
                                         
                                        that was maybe
                                         
                                        not reciprocated for a while
                                         
                                        I think
                                         
    
                                        part of me feels like
                                         
                                        maybe I was waited out
                                         
                                        and then she was like
                                         
                                        Jesus I really cannot shake
                                         
                                        this loser
                                         
                                        I better
                                         
                                        I'm gonna drop them fast
                                         
                                        So she sort of
                                         
    
                                        she didn't anticipate
                                         
                                        how tenacious
                                         
                                        you would be
                                         
                                        Oh yeah
                                         
                                        Oh I could stay
                                         
                                        in a very unhappy
                                         
                                        I can make this
                                         
                                        quite pathetic
                                         
    
                                        for all involved actually
                                         
                                        I can eat dinner
                                         
                                        in silence
                                         
                                        for a long long time
                                         
                                        Well you know
                                         
                                        I had someone
                                         
                                        She flew from London
                                         
                                        over to Dublin for like
                                         
    
                                        one night only to break up with me
                                         
                                        and then went back to London. That's
                                         
                                        kind I think. Yeah. That's great.
                                         
                                        I mean, I wouldn't, yeah, it was
                                         
                                        You should tank your lucky stars. It was five years
                                         
                                        as well, we were together five years.
                                         
                                        This is a long time ago now, so, you know, I'm totally
                                         
                                        over. But, you know, I was, you know, I kind of, I
                                         
    
                                        cried, you know, like a little bitch.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, so that's what... I don't like
                                         
                                        hearing this. It's disgusting, isn't it?
                                         
                                        I find out your dad's gay. I don't like this.
                                         
                                        that's not anything wrong with it
                                         
                                        well you'll be glad to know
                                         
                                        I've never cried since
                                         
                                        when they were putting my dad in the ground
                                         
    
                                        oh I was chuckling
                                         
                                        ha ha ha ha this is her fault
                                         
                                        I felt a bit emotionally stunted
                                         
                                        because I wasn't really crying
                                         
                                        and she called me out for not crying
                                         
                                        and then I think I should give you shit for that as well
                                         
                                        yeah I felt like a bit of an obligation then
                                         
                                        so I was like oh yeah I'll try to force something out
                                         
    
                                        but I haven't been upset since
                                         
                                        oh my god I'm getting so angry right now
                                         
                                        I'm shaking right now
                                         
                                        I think people are mostly,
                                         
                                        which, again, this is the great thing
                                         
                                        that she's gifted me with,
                                         
                                        is like a kind of mean breakup
                                         
                                        gives me a lot of pity.
                                         
    
                                        And that's, I can thrive off of that.
                                         
                                        I mean, just on the birthday,
                                         
                                        the fact that, you know,
                                         
                                        so she, who booked the Edinburgh trip?
                                         
                                        So the thing is,
                                         
                                        these are tickets for the Book of Mormon.
                                         
                                        This is very much the logistics thing
                                         
                                        that's really not that interesting.
                                         
    
                                        These are tickets that we had for the Book of Mormon
                                         
                                        that I had bought for Edinburgh
                                         
                                        when I actually lived in Scotland.
                                         
                                        And then I finished my PhD and, like,
                                         
                                        COVID delayed it all.
                                         
                                        and then I didn't live there anymore
                                         
                                        but it was like we'll just go back for the weekend
                                         
                                        why not but we did like reschedule the date
                                         
    
                                        that we went on like we were meant to be going like two weeks after
                                         
                                        two weeks before who booked the flights
                                         
                                        who booked those individually but I booked the
                                         
                                        tickets in the first place
                                         
                                        right who paid for the Indian food
                                         
                                        she got the she got that
                                         
                                        oh that makes up for the flights
                                         
                                        and she got the fucking Broadway show
                                         
    
                                        I think she paid for the Airbnb we were going to split it
                                         
                                        and then I was like I'm just not going to
                                         
                                        yeah but she said she got me presents right
                                         
                                        but she didn't bring them over with her
                                         
                                        It was her birthday like six weeks before
                                         
                                        and I don't know, I'd spent money
                                         
                                        and I'd got her stuff
                                         
                                        and my mom was very like
                                         
    
                                        you really shouldn't have spent
                                         
                                        any of the money, should you?
                                         
                                        I was like driving in the car
                                         
                                        with her and I was just like getting really angry
                                         
                                        over Christmas and I was like, well yeah
                                         
                                        she really fucked me over in it
                                         
                                        financially. I guarantee you it not to be too dark here
                                         
                                        in a parallel universe
                                         
    
                                        you're the star of a true crime documentary
                                         
                                        and all the women who watch her are like
                                         
                                        she pushed him too far
                                         
                                        yeah you're in
                                         
                                        You're in jail on death row
                                         
                                        But you're just getting love letters
                                         
                                        From all these horny ladies
                                         
                                        Like oh Mark I wish you
                                         
    
                                        Suffocated me in the woods
                                         
                                        I would have appreciated
                                         
                                        You are like a Paul Meskell type
                                         
                                        I'm really not bitter
                                         
                                        You're like Paul Meskel
                                         
                                        Yeah Paul Mescal
                                         
                                        Like quiet and uncomfortable
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
    
                                        And maybe an accused bully I think
                                         
                                        There was a period on Reddit
                                         
                                        Oh we're cutting this out now
                                         
                                        Runaway jury
                                         
                                        No we're going to talk about
                                         
                                        Run the way jury
                                         
                                        I want to hear about this.
                                         
                                        No, there's a really stupid thing on Twitter
                                         
    
                                        where it was like,
                                         
                                        or on Reddit,
                                         
                                        someone early on was trying to cancel Paul Meskel
                                         
                                        because they were like,
                                         
                                        he bullied me in school
                                         
                                        and it was like,
                                         
                                        I think he just played football.
                                         
                                        I don't think he's beaten my team and gas.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, like I don't think
                                         
                                        there was much to it.
                                         
                                        He was showboating.
                                         
                                        Because yeah,
                                         
                                        well now when you see him do interviews,
                                         
                                        he's like quite timid.
                                         
                                        It's all the character.
                                         
                                        Behind closed doors.
                                         
    
                                        He's a beast.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        An animal.
                                         
                                        He's just chugging fucking full fat milk
                                         
                                        and chick.
                                         
                                        could fillet rolls and then making
                                         
                                        himself sick to keep that body nice and tight
                                         
                                        probably
                                         
    
                                        I'll look into that
                                         
                                        but anyway I'm on team Mark Maloney
                                         
                                        anyway. Yeah of course I think I met that girl
                                         
                                        anyway I'm sure she's nice but
                                         
                                        Maybe
                                         
                                        I think it'd meet her yeah
                                         
                                        at some comedy gig
                                         
                                        yeah maybe she didn't really come to many
                                         
    
                                        I think it came to the one she came in
                                         
                                        and I could tell there's something wrong
                                         
                                        I've got that sense
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        So that's sad.
                                         
                                        But you've been doing well since then.
                                         
                                        I've been, I've bounced back.
                                         
    
                                        Have you been on the apps, yeah?
                                         
                                        I was on the apps.
                                         
                                        I was on the apps.
                                         
                                        I've met someone off the apps.
                                         
                                        I would say you probably do well on the apps.
                                         
                                        I'm good.
                                         
                                        I'm good over text.
                                         
                                        Yeah, risen them over text.
                                         
    
                                        I really struggle, I think, when it comes to, like, actual in-person interactions.
                                         
                                        Do you get this problem?
                                         
                                        I want to see if you get this.
                                         
                                        I always find it weird.
                                         
                                        So you're talking to a girl online.
                                         
                                        And like I say,
                                         
                                        You might send some pictures, okay, and you might, you're flirty, talk about, like, you know,
                                         
                                        oh, wink, wink, you know, wouldn't mind seeing that, but without the hoodie.
                                         
    
                                        That's, you know, I having a shower, oh, wish I was with you, you know, that kind of stuff.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah, without me.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that kind of stuff, okay, so it's very sexual.
                                         
                                        And, you know, you might see a Vaj picture.
                                         
                                        Whoa.
                                         
                                        But then, like, you know, when you meet up with her at the, at the coffee shop, you don't know how,
                                         
                                        because, like, I've seen you naked, like, I don't know how to, do I go, do shake your hand, do a fist bump yet?
                                         
                                        Do I kiss you?
                                         
    
                                        What do I do?
                                         
                                        Kiss your hand like a French gentleman?
                                         
                                        Dip and kiss at every opportunity, I suppose, yeah.
                                         
                                        No, it is, it's pretty awkward.
                                         
                                        I would never do a coffee date.
                                         
                                        I was always like, I will try to get quite drunk.
                                         
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        I could never do a coffee date.
                                         
    
                                        Take some sedatives before the sedatives,
                                         
                                        then a little bump of coke, few drinks,
                                         
                                        and you're nice and steady, I think, you know?
                                         
                                        Then you're just a confidence of a normal man.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Yeah, really much.
                                         
                                        It's so nice.
                                         
                                        Some men have that just wake up like,
                                         
    
                                        hey I'm feeling good
                                         
                                        and for us like
                                         
                                        well for me anyway
                                         
                                        you need like you know
                                         
                                        a few bumps of coke
                                         
                                        you need to like you know
                                         
                                        jerk off twice
                                         
                                        and then you know
                                         
    
                                        I found the apps to be really
                                         
                                        damaging to my self-esteem
                                         
                                        I really had to take a pause from them
                                         
                                        I happen to meet someone
                                         
                                        at the same time anyway
                                         
                                        but I was also like I really
                                         
                                        I'm gonna drop these apps quite quickly
                                         
                                        because it was really starting to hurt my head
                                         
    
                                        do like Tinder plus
                                         
                                        or bumble plus or anything
                                         
                                        I had Tinder gold for a minute
                                         
                                        at the beginning
                                         
                                        yeah much is there
                                         
                                        I can't remember how much I spent
                                         
                                        it varies so much
                                         
                                        yeah I definitely had
                                         
    
                                        I had one of them
                                         
                                        that helps the game
                                         
                                        That helps you just know who liked you.
                                         
                                        Right, right, right, okay.
                                         
                                        I definitely, yeah, I have spent money on the apps.
                                         
                                        Hey, no shame in that.
                                         
                                        Much to my shame.
                                         
                                        I've spent so much money in the apps.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, and you still get banned from them.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I know.
                                         
                                        Yeah, you're not letting on Tinder, right?
                                         
                                        He's banned from Tinder.
                                         
                                        What did you do?
                                         
                                        I don't know why.
                                         
                                        That's crazy.
                                         
                                        You definitely know why.
                                         
    
                                        You know what?
                                         
                                        I had no idea.
                                         
                                        I did cough my own finger and send it to someone.
                                         
                                        I wiped down no surfaces.
                                         
                                        There's no.
                                         
                                        way they got a clean print.
                                         
                                        That's why you're in jury-dory.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's good to be honest, isn't it?
                                         
    
                                        Just some bro-in-out.
                                         
                                        I feel like sometimes I ruin the conversation.
                                         
                                        You're like, let's talk about the movie.
                                         
                                        Oh, do you really want to talk about the movie?
                                         
                                        Not really, no.
                                         
                                        Have I'm too much fun.
                                         
                                        Am I stressing you out?
                                         
                                        Well, just real quick, I'll just tell you about runaway jury.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Just to reset the vibe.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I don't think you said, I'm in court, but not for
                                         
                                        I'm just on jury
                                         
                                        He's fighting for
                                         
                                        truth and justice
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        The American way
                                         
    
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah
                                         
                                        Well here's the thing
                                         
                                        So runaway jury
                                         
                                        Is about
                                         
                                        There's this guy goes into an office
                                         
                                        And shoots a bunch of people with a gun
                                         
                                        All right
                                         
    
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        He's the hero then
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        He just couldn't take any more
                                         
                                        He's listed the podcast
                                         
                                        While doing it
                                         
                                        But
                                         
    
                                        He shoots this one lad
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        And his wife is like
                                         
                                        Oh my husband's dead
                                         
                                        I'm going to sue the gun company
                                         
                                        Oh
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        So it's a court case about that
                                         
    
                                        And the big thing is if she wins
                                         
                                        That sets a precedent
                                         
                                        With every dumb widow
                                         
                                        Can sue the gun company, all right?
                                         
                                        If we admit a woman was right in court
                                         
                                        Society will crumble
                                         
                                        You watch
                                         
                                        So it becomes this big, big case
                                         
    
                                        And on one side is Gene Hackman
                                         
                                        Playing the Pro Gun Lobby
                                         
                                        And the other side is Dustin Hoffman
                                         
                                        Playing the anti-gun lobby
                                         
                                        He's defending this widow
                                         
                                        Right nerd
                                         
                                        But the whole kind of concept is
                                         
                                        Gene Hackman has invented new technology
                                         
    
                                        that can scan people and decide
                                         
                                        if they're pro or anti-gun
                                         
                                        so it scans you
                                         
                                        right and it can read like your body language
                                         
                                        your history you vote Democrat
                                         
                                        even like the way you move your fingers
                                         
                                        you're blinking and all that. Just how big your penis is
                                         
                                        if you've got a tiny dick you're loving guns
                                         
    
                                        so is that for example okay
                                         
                                        they see Louise Guzman
                                         
                                        and they scan him and a picture of his skeleton
                                         
                                        just ignore when he says things wrong
                                         
                                        just breeze past him
                                         
                                        they have a picture of his skeleton right so it's
                                         
                                        Julie Guzamu or whatever
                                         
                                        whatever you say.
                                         
    
                                        Mr. Mexican Manor.
                                         
                                        Giromo from Kimmel.
                                         
                                        Puerto Rican.
                                         
                                        So they scan his skeleton
                                         
                                        and they can see that he's actually
                                         
                                        pro gun.
                                         
                                        Wait, so how exactly
                                         
                                        So they have everything like
                                         
    
                                        you know, so like your background
                                         
                                        even like they ask you questions.
                                         
                                        You know like and they've got like these glasses
                                         
                                        that look like me or your glasses, okay,
                                         
                                        but it's actually got cameras inside.
                                         
                                        So they're filming.
                                         
                                        Pretty high tech.
                                         
                                        Yeah, they're filming the reactions of everyone
                                         
    
                                        and say like you like guns
                                         
                                        and someone might be like, yeah, I don't care.
                                         
                                        Like the way he said in the way of movies
                                         
                                        Is like elbows
                                         
                                        That shows he actually does care
                                         
                                        Like he's acting nonchalant
                                         
                                        But he actually does care
                                         
                                        Nineties was pretty good
                                         
    
                                        For like incorporating technology
                                         
                                        That screenwriters definitely didn't understand
                                         
                                        Yeah exactly yeah
                                         
                                        Like they don't have time travel in it
                                         
                                        But don't really use it
                                         
                                        That's gay
                                         
                                        But here's the thing
                                         
                                        They scan
                                         
    
                                        There's one guy John Cusack
                                         
                                        And he's kind of like you
                                         
                                        So he's like this lovable guy
                                         
                                        All right
                                         
                                        He's popular with everyone
                                         
                                        Good old chicks as well
                                         
                                        And he works in like a game stop type of place, all right?
                                         
                                        And he wants to win the big Pac-Man tournament.
                                         
    
                                        Just like me.
                                         
                                        Oh, really?
                                         
                                        Just like you, all right?
                                         
                                        That's what you'd like, wouldn't you?
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But he was saying, they scan him, like, okay, he's an idiot, he's a doofus.
                                         
                                        He'll be good, and we can easily convince him to be pro-gun.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
    
                                        But it turns out he's lying.
                                         
                                        He actually is, he snuck on to the jury, and he's so charming, he can swing people either way.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
                                        And then he calls up Gene Hackman.
                                         
                                        Give me $10 million and I'll make them vote for you.
                                         
                                        If you don't give it to me, I'll make them vote against you.
                                         
                                        So he's like a con man.
                                         
                                        He's a con man, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        That's pretty cool.
                                         
                                        So one way he cons people, you may have tried this, okay?
                                         
                                        He tricks the, you know the woman that you get food?
                                         
                                        It depends.
                                         
                                        If you get called for jury, you get food.
                                         
                                        But otherwise, you just get home.
                                         
                                        Let's say if you call for jury, you get food, all right?
                                         
                                        What do you get?
                                         
    
                                        I think it's just a sandwich.
                                         
                                        I don't think there's any major.
                                         
                                        He calls, he does something.
                                         
                                        There's no craft services table at jury duty.
                                         
                                        Here's what John Cusack does
                                         
                                        He makes a phone call
                                         
                                        And he cancelled the sandwich order
                                         
                                        So nobody gets sandwiches
                                         
    
                                        And we're like, we're hungry
                                         
                                        And John Cusack's like
                                         
                                        Don't worry
                                         
                                        And he goes out to the judge
                                         
                                        Like hey
                                         
                                        The court case when starts to
                                         
                                        When we get in there
                                         
                                        Get sandwiches
                                         
    
                                        So then they got all the judges food
                                         
                                        So they get lobster and shit
                                         
                                        Oh
                                         
                                        And they're like hey we love John Cusack
                                         
                                        And caviar
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah
                                         
                                        It's kind of a Robin Hood situation
                                         
                                        It's a class warfare thing
                                         
    
                                        So then they all love them then
                                         
                                        And yeah
                                         
                                        And there's another one
                                         
                                        This is one bitch
                                         
                                        she's like,
                                         
                                        guns are bad.
                                         
                                        But she's an alcoholic.
                                         
                                        She's drinking in the jury,
                                         
    
                                        all right?
                                         
                                        She's got a big jug
                                         
                                        with three X's on it.
                                         
                                        It's just my vitamin water.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So she's like sneaking alcohol
                                         
                                        during the court case arrived.
                                         
                                        And John Hughes is like,
                                         
    
                                        hey,
                                         
                                        what he got there?
                                         
                                        And kind of pokes it
                                         
                                        and she drops it.
                                         
                                        And he's like,
                                         
                                        oh, sorry.
                                         
                                        And they throw her off.
                                         
                                        Oh.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, but he knew,
                                         
                                        he did it on purpose.
                                         
                                        So I'll, like,
                                         
                                        wander around the court
                                         
                                        and see, like,
                                         
                                        who's boozing?
                                         
                                        Yeah,
                                         
                                        who's boozing.
                                         
    
                                        Sniff all the water about it.
                                         
                                        They start poking women.
                                         
                                        Just go, yeah, go through their handbags.
                                         
                                        You find antidepressants.
                                         
                                        Mentally incompetent.
                                         
                                        Not fit to be on this jury.
                                         
                                        Where's my lobster?
                                         
                                        They have salpidine.
                                         
    
                                        Sulfidine extra.
                                         
                                        Oh, higher coding.
                                         
                                        More and more people doing sulfidine.
                                         
                                        I feel so left out.
                                         
                                        You should, man.
                                         
                                        It's the best.
                                         
                                        It's really not, by the way.
                                         
                                        I'm not already a big drug, man, really?
                                         
    
                                        I just want to be so into drugs.
                                         
                                        I find it difficult to remember do drugs.
                                         
                                        I got very paranoid about it.
                                         
                                        Anything that's, like, synthetic,
                                         
                                        because I, I would be a synthetic chemist by trade.
                                         
                                        Sure, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        So, so...
                                         
                                        Can you do your license?
                                         
    
                                        If you go on here and be like,
                                         
                                        I love fucking sandblasting prostitutes and doing heroin.
                                         
                                        No, I'm not like, I'm not a pharmacist.
                                         
                                        I'm like a lab chemist.
                                         
                                        I'm like a scientist.
                                         
                                        Like, like, working in labs.
                                         
                                        Not like pharmacies.
                                         
                                        Work on anything good?
                                         
    
                                        I used, it was like a lot of sustainability stuff.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Nothing crazy.
                                         
                                        It was like about trying to turn trees into, like,
                                         
                                        cleaning products.
                                         
                                        What?
                                         
                                        Trying to replace crude oil.
                                         
                                        Somebody watched the happening by,
                                         
    
                                        I have night chamelon.
                                         
                                        It's like, wow.
                                         
                                        Yeah, the environment's pretty important.
                                         
                                        My new hypothesis?
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        But through all that, you kind of learn how difficult it is to actually make stuff cleanly.
                                         
                                        And then even in a lab, it's quite difficult to it since I stuff cleanly.
                                         
                                        And then I was like, oh, I don't want anyone's bathtub drugs.
                                         
    
                                        You know?
                                         
                                        Are you familiar with like the head shop days?
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        I would have been, I think, a bit too young.
                                         
                                        Okay.
                                         
                                        This is James's Woodstock right here.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Well, I'm just, I'm curious.
                                         
    
                                        I think I was in school at the time.
                                         
                                        I was, I'm 27.
                                         
                                        You're 27.
                                         
                                        no, I'm 33, so yeah, it was around 2009 to 2011, roughly, when, like, the head shops
                                         
                                        were everywhere, and it was all, like, synthetic, synthetic cannabinoids, synthetic amphetamines,
                                         
                                        blah, blah, blah. So, yeah, I'm sure it probably was very dangerous. Am I fucked, basically,
                                         
                                        did I fry my brain, and now I'm going to have schizophrenia in my cock or whatever, whatever
                                         
                                        happens? I don't know. Would you, would you, would you, you, would you, you, would you, you, you,
                                         
    
                                        what's your voice do you have like a voice is it drugs porn um women oh i don't know i don't know uh i'm really
                                         
                                        trying to fit in with the comedians by being sad in some way no no i i guess i i don't know
                                         
                                        you happy are you no not really no good not really but i don't really i don't really medicate in
                                         
                                        anyway you know i guess i just kind of get off i don't medicate either yeah you don't really
                                         
                                        i just wake up and start dancing yeah yeah yeah just start grooving on the bus sometimes
                                         
                                        I start dancing with the driver
                                         
                                        They don't like it
                                         
                                        I personally just cannot stand
                                         
    
                                        sobriety in any form
                                         
                                        Really? I need to have something at all
                                         
                                        times
                                         
                                        Just anything
                                         
                                        I need to fill my time
                                         
                                        I do find that like I like attention
                                         
                                        Yeah sure
                                         
                                        So that way
                                         
    
                                        That's the biggest drug of all man
                                         
                                        I'm an attention
                                         
                                        addict
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah yeah
                                         
                                        On social media
                                         
                                        But that's good though
                                         
                                        It's good to not have any vices
                                         
    
                                        maybe food
                                         
                                        I don't know
                                         
                                        I guess I over eat all the time
                                         
                                        I'm big binge eater
                                         
                                        yeah yeah yeah
                                         
                                        you're nothing
                                         
                                        you're okay
                                         
                                        you got nothing on the cat dog
                                         
    
                                        I tell you that
                                         
                                        we're getting there
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        one day
                                         
                                        I tell you
                                         
                                        I'm like two
                                         
                                        I'm two years away
                                         
                                        from looking like
                                         
    
                                        Brendan Fraser
                                         
                                        in the whale
                                         
                                        that's gonna be my life man
                                         
                                        you're gonna be like
                                         
                                        my Puerto Rican nurse
                                         
                                        Brian coming in
                                         
                                        Have you seen that as
                                         
                                        No James stop eating the pizza
                                         
    
                                        pepperoni not good for you
                                         
                                        get off of you or
                                         
                                        My dog disappears.
                                         
                                        I actually haven't seen it.
                                         
                                        Brian just watched it.
                                         
                                        I watched it in bed eating a chicken fillet roll.
                                         
                                        I was like, this is great.
                                         
                                        It's Brendan Fraser's fat and gay?
                                         
    
                                        Yes.
                                         
                                        He's also gay?
                                         
                                        He's also gay.
                                         
                                        And dying?
                                         
                                        Well, he's just fat, which leads to dying.
                                         
                                        He's like 600 pounds or something.
                                         
                                        He's an absurdly.
                                         
                                        Does he look silly?
                                         
    
                                        Or does it look?
                                         
                                        No, they do a good job with the fatness now.
                                         
                                        You were repulsed.
                                         
                                        I was not repulsed.
                                         
                                        Repulsed and direct at the same time.
                                         
                                        I was like one of those things.
                                         
                                        I didn't like how
                                         
                                        a lot of people
                                         
    
                                        like he plays this
                                         
                                        disgusting fat man
                                         
                                        it's actually
                                         
                                        kind of offensive
                                         
                                        of fat people
                                         
                                        but like he's
                                         
                                        he's fat
                                         
                                        they do a good job
                                         
    
                                        make him
                                         
                                        look he doesn't look like
                                         
                                        it seems like he still
                                         
                                        has pretty good skin in it
                                         
                                        like no
                                         
                                        he takes his shirt off
                                         
                                        and it's like
                                         
                                        it's pretty
                                         
    
                                        bed soory
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        yeah I haven't hit
                                         
                                        the bed soar's phase
                                         
                                        just yet
                                         
                                        although
                                         
                                        there are a few
                                         
                                        blemishes
                                         
    
                                        starting to appear
                                         
                                        I thought it was a very
                                         
                                        not affectionate
                                         
                                        empathetic
                                         
                                        empathy.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        It's a very
                                         
                                        empathy look at him.
                                         
    
                                        It wasn't like,
                                         
                                        they weren't like
                                         
                                        throwing tomatoes
                                         
                                        at him or anything.
                                         
                                        Yeah,
                                         
                                        I think there was a lot of
                                         
                                        sort of knee-jerk
                                         
                                        reactionary outrage.
                                         
    
                                        Like, oh, it's fat phobic.
                                         
                                        Everybody knows being 600 pounds
                                         
                                        doesn't affect your health negatively.
                                         
                                        That's good, isn't it?
                                         
                                        You can still pop a wheelie.
                                         
                                        They will,
                                         
                                        people will unironically say that.
                                         
                                        Like being like 400 pounds
                                         
    
                                        doesn't negatively affect your health.
                                         
                                        Well, certainly does.
                                         
                                        It's not a different level.
                                         
                                        we're going to trust the science
                                         
                                        on the fucking, you know,
                                         
                                        the autism factory or whatever
                                         
                                        they're doing over there in Wuhan.
                                         
                                        Fucking, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        Then, you know, we have to admit
                                         
                                        that being a hog will give you a
                                         
                                        headache, at least.
                                         
                                        At the very least.
                                         
                                        And I say this as a fat person, you know,
                                         
                                        I'm probably autistic
                                         
                                        too.
                                         
                                        You've gone full Wuhan.
                                         
    
                                        But anyway,
                                         
                                        you're happy with the job and all that.
                                         
                                        moment.
                                         
                                        My job.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        No, I really
                                         
                                        dislike my job.
                                         
                                        Oh, wait,
                                         
    
                                        I shouldn't say that.
                                         
                                        I get it.
                                         
                                        We cut that out.
                                         
                                        Yeah,
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        The job is different.
                                         
                                        It's more like my life,
                                         
                                        my life focus has shifted.
                                         
    
                                        PhD is very singular focus in your life.
                                         
                                        You've got the PhD.
                                         
                                        Yeah,
                                         
                                        yeah,
                                         
                                        but it's kind of like a dog
                                         
                                        chasing a car in a way.
                                         
                                        It's like you got it.
                                         
                                        You get it.
                                         
    
                                        Do you not know what to do with it.
                                         
                                        Yeah,
                                         
                                        it's very,
                                         
                                        it's very stressful.
                                         
                                        It's, uh,
                                         
                                        well,
                                         
                                        the PhD doesn't like,
                                         
                                        it's not like you get it and then suddenly like people are calling you up and like,
                                         
    
                                        Hello, it's Mr. MIT here.
                                         
                                        No, no, not at all.
                                         
                                        It's very like, oh, well, every job that you're applying for, everyone else also has a PhD.
                                         
                                        So, you know what's the point really?
                                         
                                        Would you go for the doctorate then? Is that the next step?
                                         
                                        No, PhD is a doctorate.
                                         
                                        So you're a doctor Maloney?
                                         
                                        Yeah, I guess so.
                                         
    
                                        Wow. That's pretty good.
                                         
                                        She still broke up with you.
                                         
                                        What a fuck is.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's funny because I was, PhD, you're very poor.
                                         
                                        You don't have any money for four years.
                                         
                                        And then it was like, oh, I have a job now.
                                         
                                        And it's like a lot more, immediately just a lot more money.
                                         
                                        People are literally, they're overeducated.
                                         
    
                                        that's a big problem
                                         
                                        right now
                                         
                                        they're overeducated
                                         
                                        too much knowledge
                                         
                                        in their head
                                         
                                        and there's no jobs
                                         
                                        for it
                                         
                                        so like I remember
                                         
    
                                        like a few years ago
                                         
                                        even like
                                         
                                        I knew loads of people
                                         
                                        who were studying
                                         
                                        like psychology
                                         
                                        and like philosophy
                                         
                                        especially I knew loads
                                         
                                        of philosopher consul right
                                         
    
                                        and now they're like
                                         
                                        they're probably dead right now
                                         
                                        like there's not
                                         
                                        there's not on forums
                                         
                                        do you know
                                         
                                        what are you going to do with that
                                         
                                        I think well like
                                         
                                        depends on the subject
                                         
    
                                        arts I guess
                                         
                                        or business
                                         
                                        business is one of those big ones
                                         
                                        where it's like
                                         
                                        people will
                                         
                                        it's like those business
                                         
                                        podcast like those LinkedIn guys
                                         
                                        you be like
                                         
    
                                        you don't need to go
                                         
                                        to college because I didn't
                                         
                                        and it's fine.
                                         
                                        Whereas it's like
                                         
                                        with STEM it's a bit
                                         
                                        like you probably should go to college
                                         
                                        like you probably should learn
                                         
                                        the theory of maths and science
                                         
    
                                        and everything.
                                         
                                        We need to stop children
                                         
                                        like making bad mistakes
                                         
                                        like all these kids keep learning
                                         
                                        the arts and shit like that's
                                         
                                        like no you need to learn coding
                                         
                                        and like you know
                                         
                                        how to
                                         
    
                                        I know work in a meat factory
                                         
                                        you know something that is actually
                                         
                                        you're going to be able to use
                                         
                                        in the future.
                                         
                                        Are you anti-art
                                         
                                        in general do you not think it's important
                                         
                                        I don't want to be funded at all
                                         
                                        Brian has been going out of his
                                         
    
                                        way to make sure that
                                         
                                        stand-up comedy does not get any
                                         
                                        arts council funding
                                         
                                        he's very much
                                         
                                        she's the John Cusack
                                         
                                        of the Irish comedy scene
                                         
                                        he's going in
                                         
                                        Where do you think that would go
                                         
    
                                        Where do you think that would go?
                                         
                                        Definitely not to us
                                         
                                        Anyway
                                         
                                        That's the thing
                                         
                                        Right where does that
                                         
                                        Conds who don't deserve
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah people deserve a fucking brick
                                         
    
                                        more than art funding
                                         
                                        What do I know
                                         
                                        What do I know
                                         
                                        I really want to
                                         
                                        Some people don't think stand up
                                         
                                        is an art form
                                         
                                        Then they get on stage 20 minutes
                                         
                                        Like, I'm not convinced
                                         
    
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        You haven't swayed me
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's funny
                                         
                                        It's always
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Oh, you talk of wine, did you?
                                         
                                        Great
                                         
                                        But I'm also like
                                         
    
                                        I don't want funding for nurses either
                                         
                                        Or just
                                         
                                        I know a guy
                                         
                                        He was a hardcore libertarian
                                         
                                        And he was from Liverpool
                                         
                                        And he was very like
                                         
                                        Anti-tax
                                         
                                        Anti-Any-anything
                                         
    
                                        Sure
                                         
                                        And he was like
                                         
                                        I don't even like
                                         
                                        The NHS
                                         
                                        like if I was laying dead in the street
                                         
                                        if an ambulance came to get me I'd rather opt
                                         
                                        out than take the NHS
                                         
                                        because you're a coward then if the NHS
                                         
    
                                        I'm actually really about it like
                                         
                                        I'm really
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        A libertarian from Liverpool
                                         
                                        That sounds exhausting
                                         
                                        Larry the Liverpoolian libertarian
                                         
                                        He was interesting
                                         
                                        All right slats
                                         
    
                                        I just think we should
                                         
                                        Pull up your boot straps
                                         
                                        I'm sick of the bloody fucking
                                         
                                        They're coming over here
                                         
                                        Getting the fuck him
                                         
                                        they do stand-up comedy
                                         
                                        and they get the fucking arms council
                                         
                                        vote in
                                         
    
                                        I'd say him
                                         
                                        That's your mate
                                         
                                        That is
                                         
                                        He's very nice
                                         
                                        Mirked
                                         
                                        Mirked
                                         
                                        You're not marked
                                         
                                        To like Alex Jones and everything
                                         
    
                                        Oh really
                                         
                                        Oh I did
                                         
                                        In work in the lab
                                         
                                        And he just bring up like
                                         
                                        A fucking
                                         
                                        Oh he works in the lab
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        This is a reason
                                         
    
                                        This would be in the UK
                                         
                                        During the degree
                                         
                                        But like it was
                                         
                                        He would just come with these points
                                         
                                        Like these arguments
                                         
                                        like these arguments that I don't think about
                                         
                                        the frogs being gay
                                         
                                        apparently that one's true
                                         
    
                                        oh that is true yeah
                                         
                                        I think it's more like
                                         
                                        that is literally true
                                         
                                        Ryan was put in the man hours there
                                         
                                        he went down to the local lake
                                         
                                        and Carlo and just butt-fucked a bunch of frogs
                                         
                                        I think it's actually like it makes the frogs
                                         
                                        trans like and Alex Jones heads
                                         
    
                                        don't really know the difference so they're just like
                                         
                                        oh it's gay
                                         
                                        you're just gay it just alters their like
                                         
                                        genitalia or maybe they've become like
                                         
                                        hamaphrodite or something
                                         
                                        it makes his chromosomes
                                         
                                        also that affects my taint
                                         
                                        like my taint is different now
                                         
    
                                        your gooch
                                         
                                        that sweet sweet
                                         
                                        sweet gooch
                                         
                                        remember that Chinese woman said it
                                         
                                        you drank too much water in Flint
                                         
                                        and now your taint is upside down
                                         
                                        no but didn't the Chinese woman say that
                                         
                                        on online on the internet one time
                                         
    
                                        I don't know what Chinese women says
                                         
                                        lots of things on the internet
                                         
                                        well there's someone saying like
                                         
                                        a lot of microplastics is making my taint either bigger
                                         
                                        or smaller oh yeah I've heard that
                                         
                                        yeah your prostate is getting like
                                         
                                        And you're there like,
                                         
                                        rolling your eyes.
                                         
    
                                        I mean,
                                         
                                        rolling in your eyes
                                         
                                        at my teeth.
                                         
                                        Definitely like the plastics
                                         
                                        and the preservatives and food,
                                         
                                        I'm sure are all carcinogenic
                                         
                                        and contributing to our ill health.
                                         
                                        While the plane fucking trains
                                         
    
                                        are derailing in Ohio.
                                         
                                        That was crazy, isn't it?
                                         
                                        It's mental.
                                         
                                        You know, another one.
                                         
                                        It just happened in Ohio again.
                                         
                                        And in Greece as well,
                                         
                                        it happened.
                                         
                                        No, that was just people, though.
                                         
    
                                        Don't worry.
                                         
                                        That wasn't hazardous chemicals.
                                         
                                        I was just 60 people who died.
                                         
                                        And apparently,
                                         
                                        it was like due to human error
                                         
                                        and now the Greeks are out there
                                         
                                        moaning in the streets
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
    
                                        um
                                         
                                        like the whole
                                         
                                        of infrastructure is falling apart
                                         
                                        yeah and there's no like
                                         
                                        it's not cool
                                         
                                        everybody's doing stand up
                                         
                                        on the arts now
                                         
                                        nobody's out there on the railroads
                                         
    
                                        everyone rid of the big money
                                         
                                        in Dublin stand up
                                         
                                        and they're like look yeah
                                         
                                        it's over it
                                         
                                        fucking seen and herd
                                         
                                        man you know what was seen and heard
                                         
                                        another fucking train crash
                                         
                                        have you been to any scene and heard
                                         
    
                                        no I've never gone to anything
                                         
                                        I've heard some horrific stories
                                         
                                        worries about those cons.
                                         
                                        I've heard they make you sit through a different show before you get to your show.
                                         
                                        Oh yeah, I've heard, yeah.
                                         
                                        But they never give you another comedian.
                                         
                                        What do they give you?
                                         
                                        Well, they don't want it.
                                         
    
                                        They'll give you a comedian if they're stuck.
                                         
                                        They'll normally give you some girl with a hula hoop or something shit like that.
                                         
                                        It's kind of fun though.
                                         
                                        I'd rather that than like the misery of an hour of stand up from some of the people.
                                         
                                        Well, imagine like if it was me and you doing it.
                                         
                                        If it was me and you doing like an hour each, that'd be great.
                                         
                                        We'd be high-fiving, probably banging chicks afterwards.
                                         
                                        Probably tagging in, tagging out.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah, there'd be like a half pipe and dudes doing six skateboard moves, you know.
                                         
                                        Drinking bud lights and all that.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        No laughs, just chance.
                                         
                                        Brian, Brian.
                                         
                                        Yeah, wouldn't even do stand-up.
                                         
                                        Some kid rock karaoke, you know?
                                         
                                        Instead, it's like, you know, you're doing stand-up, right?
                                         
    
                                        And before that, there's some, like, me, okay, some fucking nerd on, okay,
                                         
                                        doing, like, a show about Deep Space Nine.
                                         
                                        And, like, it was, like, an interpretive dance about Quark and Odo.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And all this.
                                         
                                        Deep Space Nine is a...
                                         
                                        how you, that's your like framing
                                         
                                        narrative framing device for you
                                         
    
                                        getting molested as a child.
                                         
                                        Deep space down is what you call
                                         
                                        your anal cavity. It is good to have something there that like
                                         
                                        people can fail at though I think. Like a really
                                         
                                        low stakes
                                         
                                        debut, you know. Yeah.
                                         
                                        But just like this idea that someone would
                                         
                                        I don't know go to Edinburgh raw or you know
                                         
    
                                        it's good to have something of a practice.
                                         
                                        Did you do Edinburgh when you were over there?
                                         
                                        I visited, but I never did.
                                         
                                        I completely wasted my time in some always.
                                         
                                        You've done Edinburgh, Brian.
                                         
                                        I've done, yeah, I've done a half hour with someone else.
                                         
                                        I was going to do an hour this year, but I've got a job.
                                         
                                        I could take time off the job, but actually someone I'd like to spend time with.
                                         
    
                                        So I kind of would rather spend time with her and not just go over and fail to do gigs with like, you know.
                                         
                                        So you do like a full hour, a solo show?
                                         
                                        I did a full, so what I did was when I went to Edinburgh.
                                         
                                        It was a full month.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        The first three weeks, I did a split show with someone.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        because that was great.
                                         
    
                                        Who was it with?
                                         
                                        I won't say who.
                                         
                                        He doesn't want to be associated me anymore.
                                         
                                        Oh, really?
                                         
                                        No, no, it's Parrick Williams.
                                         
                                        Good guy, good guy, yeah.
                                         
                                        But you know what their original idea for the name?
                                         
                                        Brian pitched the name to them and it was going to be called Brian and Porrick fuck each other.
                                         
    
                                        Whoa.
                                         
                                        Porick rejected that so Brian's like, here, Cadd, and you'll take the scraps for you.
                                         
                                        The sloppy seconds.
                                         
                                        But the show is still going to be called Brian and Porig.
                                         
                                        Jersey, see Porrug like come up on Brian's phone and you say,
                                         
                                        Are you texting?
                                         
                                        No, I don't have to worry about that.
                                         
                                        Poor, I can't call Bryce.
                                         
    
                                        Whoa.
                                         
                                        Whoa. Hey.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        No.
                                         
                                        Richie Bree's better than me.
                                         
                                        But then last week, I did, I had the hour to myself.
                                         
                                        Right.
                                         
                                        And I think for like four days, I did, like, an hour long show.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        There's a bit of a struggle.
                                         
                                        Like, didn't have an hour of material, so I had to fill up with crowd work.
                                         
                                        And, uh, I had people, had a whole audience walk out on me one time.
                                         
                                        Wow.
                                         
                                        How big was the audience?
                                         
                                        Oh, about.
                                         
                                        20 something people. Did they synchronise
                                         
    
                                        it? Did they synchronise it? No, so basically it's kind of
                                         
                                        like when one person left
                                         
                                        it's like it was like they like kind of like the
                                         
                                        gateway then we're like oh guess I can leave as well
                                         
                                        so it's like one person leaves two three
                                         
                                        two four and then eventually
                                         
                                        it's like when everyone's leaving it's very
                                         
                                        awkward I'd sort of people would be like I guess I'll just stay
                                         
    
                                        it's like six people left so it's like we might as well
                                         
                                        leave then. What did you do? Did you finish the show?
                                         
                                        No I waited down until the last left
                                         
                                        You know what makes me suicidal, an empty room?
                                         
                                        A big empty room.
                                         
                                        Just makes you want to end you know.
                                         
                                        You're still walking faster now.
                                         
                                        Did you have like one guy left and you just like...
                                         
    
                                        No, they all left.
                                         
                                        It wasn't even like one guy.
                                         
                                        You'd be like, hey, I guess we're to do it to you.
                                         
                                        Like, they all just left.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Which is weird.
                                         
                                        I thought I was doing well.
                                         
                                        I thought I had them in the second half.
                                         
    
                                        I thought I had them inside there, yeah.
                                         
                                        I thought my Brexit stuff was doing well.
                                         
                                        I think it wasn't even like the left in the scuss.
                                         
                                        he was just out of boredom or something
                                         
                                        It was just like a total apathy
                                         
                                        It was just like, ah
                                         
                                        I feel nothing and they left
                                         
                                        I assume I'm not
                                         
    
                                        And then the other shows then I did
                                         
                                        We had like you know
                                         
                                        Someone else like we did half and half again
                                         
                                        We kind of had fun
                                         
                                        When we've got three people
                                         
                                        And we all did like a few minutes each
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah yeah
                                         
                                        But I would definitely do it again
                                         
    
                                        I'll do it next year now
                                         
                                        And I think next year
                                         
                                        I want to really
                                         
                                        I want to really come to it
                                         
                                        Prepared
                                         
                                        It's so goddamn expensive though
                                         
                                        Last thing
                                         
                                        They're really priced out any middle class
                                         
    
                                        cunce.
                                         
                                        And it's just the people
                                         
                                        deserve to be there
                                         
                                        like you know
                                         
                                        like Alster Campbell's
                                         
                                        daughter
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
                                        if your dad's a war criminal
                                         
    
                                        you deserve to talk
                                         
                                        about wine
                                         
                                        I want to hear
                                         
                                        your tics
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        uh
                                         
                                        what gives you the ick
                                         
    
                                        you're dumb bitch
                                         
                                        did you ever see that
                                         
                                        a handle breast
                                         
                                        like it was really a special
                                         
                                        it was kind of like a documentary
                                         
                                        about doing it
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
    
                                        and he's like this is fucking
                                         
                                        it's awful
                                         
                                        he hates it
                                         
                                        like yeah
                                         
                                        he was right
                                         
                                        it was a terrible time
                                         
                                        it does seem awful
                                         
                                        I've never
                                         
    
                                        done it myself but I don't know
                                         
                                        I've gone over for a week this year
                                         
                                        it's weird the people that go over for a full
                                         
                                        present company excluded of course
                                         
                                        but the people that go over and do a gig
                                         
                                        for an entire month and they come back is like
                                         
                                        you didn't get any better
                                         
                                        you're still bad at this
                                         
    
                                        you're still very bad
                                         
                                        again not you
                                         
                                        I'm talking about you yeah it's funny
                                         
                                        you know who I'm talking about
                                         
                                        yeah it's fun some people like
                                         
                                        they'll go over with their stuff
                                         
                                        this is very catty now you know we still
                                         
                                        talk about the fall
                                         
    
                                        but
                                         
                                        how don't run away
                                         
                                        jury end he convinces them all to go to an
                                         
                                        Edinburgh show
                                         
                                        is some people like I do
                                         
                                        quantify amusing now where this refuse to change
                                         
                                        it's like they they write their
                                         
                                        40 minutes or like that
                                         
    
                                        in the first like three weeks doing stand up
                                         
                                        and like this is it and is
                                         
                                        if I change I'm capitulating
                                         
                                        you know I just gotta never rewrite
                                         
                                        anything this is my
                                         
                                        truth I think I very much so I would still do
                                         
                                        jokes that I've had for years and years and years
                                         
                                        but my
                                         
    
                                        delivery kind of changed I very
                                         
                                        went heavy on the performance aspect
                                         
                                        of it.
                                         
                                        You were very performative.
                                         
                                        Yeah, so when
                                         
                                        because you kind of mentioned it before
                                         
                                        but definitely
                                         
                                        like your style is almost
                                         
    
                                        like a character
                                         
                                        like you're not being yourself up there
                                         
                                        so when did that sort of come about?
                                         
                                        You're kind of lying to the audience
                                         
                                        you're kind of like
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        yeah yeah
                                         
                                        I've had people be like
                                         
    
                                        sorry man are you like are you all there
                                         
                                        like are you all right like
                                         
                                        really yeah
                                         
                                        there's some absolutely stupid
                                         
                                        cons out there like whoa
                                         
                                        how do you definitely on drugs
                                         
                                        when you wrote that
                                         
                                        you were so fucked oh
                                         
    
                                        he must be so weird
                                         
                                        bro
                                         
                                        anytime I come off
                                         
                                        people are just like
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        makes sense
                                         
                                        look at you
                                         
                                        yeah that tracks
                                         
    
                                        that's a real
                                         
                                        well you're definitely
                                         
                                        on antidepressants
                                         
                                        we wrote down
                                         
                                        whoa
                                         
                                        it's real something
                                         
                                        this weird
                                         
                                        situation
                                         
    
                                        where if I do
                                         
                                        if I do
                                         
                                        the bits
                                         
                                        that are obviously fake
                                         
                                        and obviously silly
                                         
                                        and then finish
                                         
                                        with like
                                         
                                        oh here's a
                                         
    
                                        and I say
                                         
                                        I'll do a real life
                                         
                                        story now
                                         
                                        and then I discuss
                                         
                                        the breakup
                                         
                                        or discuss whatever
                                         
                                        I'll get people
                                         
                                        at the end be like
                                         
    
                                        how
                                         
                                        was that breakup real, was it?
                                         
                                        And I'm like, yeah, why would I, yeah, why would I lie about that?
                                         
                                        It's very much that it was not in keeping with the rest of it.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But, yeah, you said, I think at the first time we met, you said that I was like,
                                         
                                        Emo.
                                         
                                        Emo Phillips.
                                         
    
                                        Emo Phillips, if he was on cocaine from Dublin.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        And I had to pretend to you, Emo, Philip, if I knew who Emo calls.
                                         
                                        I mean, nobody really knows.
                                         
                                        I just, I looked him up, but I was like, that's fine.
                                         
                                        James, licey little references only he gets.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's right.
                                         
                                        It makes me feel superior.
                                         
    
                                        Soteric.
                                         
                                        Oh, you're like a tell-o.
                                         
                                        I hope me think the lady doth bits too much
                                         
                                        No, but Emo Phillips
                                         
                                        I just meant in terms of like the character
                                         
                                        Because that's something in this scene anyway
                                         
                                        We really don't see a lot of
                                         
                                        A lot of it is just fucking sad losers
                                         
    
                                        Like us going up like
                                         
                                        I can't get a date
                                         
                                        But so you actually have like a character
                                         
                                        There's a real kind of you know
                                         
                                        It's like a more I don't know
                                         
                                        It just feels dynamic
                                         
                                        It feels better
                                         
                                        It's powerful
                                         
    
                                        So I'm hooked over when people like asked to come to shows
                                         
                                        and then I have to explain like, oh yeah, but like
                                         
                                        it's not going to be like, I'm not going to be getting up
                                         
                                        and talking about work or getting up and talking about my friends.
                                         
                                        Talk about Sheila in the office.
                                         
                                        She haunts the good coffee.
                                         
                                        And she denies the Holocaust, but the coffee thing mostly.
                                         
                                        She got an abortion.
                                         
    
                                        But do it in the voice.
                                         
                                        It'll be funny when you do their voice.
                                         
                                        Do you ever get as well as sometimes like I'll go,
                                         
                                        I never invite anyone to a show
                                         
                                        they always like oh can I come
                                         
                                        and like they come and like they like to show
                                         
                                        and they're like oh you know a show
                                         
                                        in two days time can come to that one as well
                                         
    
                                        oh right you know it's not
                                         
                                        same thing
                                         
                                        it won't be different
                                         
                                        oh so I guess it's not really good at all
                                         
                                        I guess it's rubbish actually
                                         
                                        he was quite lazy isn't it
                                         
                                        I like that it was completely thoughtless
                                         
                                        I thought that there was no preparation at all
                                         
    
                                        you wouldn't see Jimmy Carr doing that
                                         
                                        doing three specials
                                         
                                        that are the exact same
                                         
                                        holy fuck
                                         
                                        Jesus no wonder he got
                                         
                                        caught out for attack
                                         
                                        he doesn't know how to hide shit at all
                                         
                                        a bit a slight a hand
                                         
    
                                        or something
                                         
                                        doing the same
                                         
                                        fucking ah whatever
                                         
                                        hey power to him
                                         
                                        that's what I say
                                         
                                        he's over in New York now
                                         
                                        looking more and more
                                         
                                        like an AIDS patient
                                         
    
                                        every time I see him
                                         
                                        he looks very easy
                                         
                                        very gaunt
                                         
                                        he's doing a terrible
                                         
                                        really bad shows over there
                                         
                                        isn't it's not like
                                         
                                        reality
                                         
                                        TV show type of stuff, isn't it?
                                         
    
                                        Well, is that Jimmy Carr or is that
                                         
                                        Dez? Des Bishop's got
                                         
                                        like, uh... Oh, he has like an Instagram, like
                                         
                                        a influencer wife or something, right? Yeah. He was on like a reality
                                         
                                        TV show. Yeah. And all
                                         
                                        like people were TikTok were like
                                         
                                        commenting, who's this old man?
                                         
                                        I think people, yeah, people didn't like him on it, but it's weird.
                                         
    
                                        That may be like Dez so much.
                                         
                                        He's the heel, you know?
                                         
                                        All these like 12 year old girls like, he's disgusting.
                                         
                                        You can't handle him, bitch,
                                         
                                        or... Wait till you meet his brother,
                                         
                                        then you're really in for a laugh.
                                         
                                        you got a right kick out of that
                                         
                                        oh Jesus
                                         
    
                                        much respect
                                         
                                        yeah of course
                                         
                                        nothing but love and respect
                                         
                                        the 12 year olds are the problem
                                         
                                        they don't know what they want
                                         
                                        all you can hope is that
                                         
                                        you got a bro like Maloney
                                         
                                        on the jury
                                         
    
                                        looking out for you
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        so anyway
                                         
                                        that made me laugh a lot there
                                         
                                        I like that
                                         
                                        it's good to have you here man
                                         
                                        I hope you become a regular
                                         
    
                                        I hope you're on jury duty a lot
                                         
                                        I'm here for weeks man
                                         
                                        I hope it's like an OJ situation
                                         
                                        the only problem is like
                                         
                                        we always find our schedules out
                                         
                                        kind of late in the game
                                         
                                        like I only found out my schedule
                                         
                                        for like Thursday
                                         
    
                                        as we were talking right there
                                         
                                        so like that's kind of hard
                                         
                                        people are always like
                                         
                                        can we record
                                         
                                        and it's like it's hard work
                                         
                                        you're making me work here
                                         
                                        I like just texting James
                                         
                                        I'm recording now
                                         
    
                                        I'm at the house.
                                         
                                        Just bring it out to the car.
                                         
                                        We'll do it there.
                                         
                                        Also, the thing is, this isn't a very big room,
                                         
                                        and then your room isn't very big either.
                                         
                                        My room's even smaller.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        So it's like, you know,
                                         
    
                                        it's not very professional.
                                         
                                        This is very, like, people kind of say,
                                         
                                        oh, you guys should do videos.
                                         
                                        Like, I don't think anybody wants to see this.
                                         
                                        This is a pretty, this is as good as it ever looks, by the way.
                                         
                                        He's done it.
                                         
                                        It looks way worse, usually.
                                         
                                        This is it.
                                         
    
                                        my bed. This is me putting
                                         
                                        on airs, you know. There's a crutch in
                                         
                                        here. There is, yeah, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Just one, because I'm not a weakling.
                                         
                                        It's not a no visible injury, really.
                                         
                                        It's quite strange.
                                         
                                        You guys, why is there a crutch here?
                                         
                                        Ah, it's just a little scheme I'm cooking up the one.
                                         
    
                                        Don't worry about them, boys, you know?
                                         
                                        The people give more money when you got a crutch.
                                         
                                        Bitch, get away!
                                         
                                        Uh, yeah.
                                         
                                        So who are your influences?
                                         
                                        I don't know that
                                         
                                        I feel like I was I was actually
                                         
                                        I was a big Jimmy Car fan
                                         
    
                                        when I was a kid
                                         
                                        so was I was I was as well
                                         
                                        I was a big Bo Burnham fan
                                         
                                        until it became really violently
                                         
                                        cringed to be that
                                         
                                        yes
                                         
                                        I feel like Jen
                                         
                                        what's the generation we're right now
                                         
    
                                        is Gen Z
                                         
                                        I feel like Gen Z are now
                                         
                                        anti-Boburnum
                                         
                                        really
                                         
                                        I think they're more family guy now
                                         
                                        okay
                                         
                                        because you know
                                         
                                        for a while it was all like
                                         
    
                                        you know
                                         
                                        I am sad
                                         
                                        I might anxiety
                                         
                                        and it's okay
                                         
                                        to have a panic attack
                                         
                                        but now it's back
                                         
                                        to fact
                                         
                                        family guy now it's all Stewie Griffin you know
                                         
    
                                        it's all bird is the word now
                                         
                                        oh they love that
                                         
                                        they love quagmire
                                         
                                        yeah yeah sex pest quagmire
                                         
                                        friendly sex event yeah
                                         
                                        Bo Burnham is like
                                         
                                        incredibly talented and I am a fan of his stuff
                                         
                                        but as you said it is cringe to be that
                                         
    
                                        because the people that like them
                                         
                                        are some of the worst consul I do it's
                                         
                                        always that's always the case of anyone's creative
                                         
                                        like Bo Burnham is great
                                         
                                        who else is like creative you know like
                                         
                                        there's a lot of people out there that are very talented
                                         
                                        but when you see the fans
                                         
                                        it's like misplaced
                                         
    
                                        selective outrage
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        did you watch that
                                         
                                        the Chris Rock special
                                         
                                        oh the recent one
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        no it's good
                                         
                                        oh you ain't ready for it
                                         
    
                                        brother
                                         
                                        I liked it
                                         
                                        it was okay
                                         
                                        I liked it more than he did
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        I didn't hear it though
                                         
                                        it was live wasn't it
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
    
                                        could you feel that
                                         
                                        there was one kind of major
                                         
                                        kind of flob of a joke
                                         
                                        that I mean it's annoying because
                                         
                                        it's a flob talking about
                                         
                                        Will Smith
                                         
                                        yes
                                         
                                        so that's the bit that we'll get
                                         
    
                                        clipped to people talk about
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
                                        and like to be honest
                                         
                                        that's a very
                                         
                                        highly anticipated special
                                         
                                        just because of the slap, you know?
                                         
                                        Just the same with like Pete Davidson
                                         
                                        when he had it after the break-up of Aaron and then he just
                                         
    
                                        like five, ten minutes at the end.
                                         
                                        Well, that's like a normal person.
                                         
                                        A normal person isn't going to do like,
                                         
                                        here's 110 reasons why Arianda
                                         
                                        was a bitch slut.
                                         
                                        That's what people kind of expect.
                                         
                                        They're like, oh, he's going to go hard on her.
                                         
                                        Yeah, he's going to basically kill her.
                                         
    
                                        Going to kill like shake she killed Mac Miller.
                                         
                                        Dan Schneider sold Mac Miller
                                         
                                        The Fentanol
                                         
                                        Bad Oxy
                                         
                                        I haven't watched much Pete Davidson stand-up
                                         
                                        He's not great
                                         
                                        He's all right
                                         
                                        I think the Iron Agenda stuff is like interesting
                                         
    
                                        He's likable though
                                         
                                        He's likeability about him
                                         
                                        I did watch you remember Netflix did that thing
                                         
                                        Where it's like Pete Davidson presents
                                         
                                        And such and such
                                         
                                        Snoot Dog Presents
                                         
                                        Yeah it was like it's basically
                                         
                                        They put like Bill Burr as well
                                         
    
                                        where they get like, let's say Pete Davidson
                                         
                                        so he gets most of the money
                                         
                                        and he basically goes like, hey everyone, it's me
                                         
                                        here's some of my friends. And they get like
                                         
                                        four no-name acts on who probably got
                                         
                                        paid literally like peanuts.
                                         
                                        Literally got like a, you know the coaster
                                         
                                        you put the cup down on. They got paid with
                                         
    
                                        that, all right? And they
                                         
                                        and then it's like basically like they sell it with
                                         
                                        Pete Davidson's name. Yeah.
                                         
                                        No-name comics. He like emcised
                                         
                                        it basically. He does a few minutes up the top
                                         
                                        and then it's just his friends.
                                         
                                        I watched the Bill Burr one.
                                         
                                        One of the worst things I've ever seen in my entire life.
                                         
    
                                        That's really weird for him to do it, it feels, man.
                                         
                                        Yeah, he was good.
                                         
                                        Yeah, it's easy money.
                                         
                                        Yeah, but Jimmy Carr was actually on it.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        But everybody bombed.
                                         
                                        It was atrocious.
                                         
                                        Michelle Wolfe was on it.
                                         
    
                                        So these people are good.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        It's just a bad crowd.
                                         
                                        Was there a guy dancing on it?
                                         
                                        Is there some fucking...
                                         
                                        Fucking Ronnie Cheng came out and started singing
                                         
                                        fireworks by Katie Perry and, yeah.
                                         
                                        I was like, what is this?
                                         
    
                                        No, who's that guy?
                                         
                                        Josh Adam Myers.
                                         
                                        He does musical comedy.
                                         
                                        but it's bad
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        it makes me sick
                                         
                                        he's a man of the corksine
                                         
                                        doing musical comedy
                                         
    
                                        at the moment
                                         
                                        and it's like
                                         
                                        unironically
                                         
                                        I love it so much
                                         
                                        I can't even think
                                         
                                        of his name
                                         
                                        it's like
                                         
                                        donal or something
                                         
    
                                        but he does like
                                         
                                        a cover of tainted love
                                         
                                        acapella
                                         
                                        and it's tainted spuds
                                         
                                        and it's 90% of it
                                         
                                        is the lyrical content
                                         
                                        of tainted love
                                         
                                        but he does like
                                         
    
                                        the full four minutes
                                         
                                        it like keeps going
                                         
                                        it's so like
                                         
                                        I've never had a weirder vibe
                                         
                                        curated in a room
                                         
                                        than him doing
                                         
                                        tainted spuds
                                         
                                        I think I might know this guy, is he a bit off a little bit?
                                         
    
                                        I don't know, maybe, maybe.
                                         
                                        I've never spoken to him, but not neurologically, but he presents as a little off.
                                         
                                        He's kind of an odd man, for sure, yeah, yeah, yeah, I think I know what you're talking about.
                                         
                                        You think Tainted Spuds is odd?
                                         
                                        It's so, because the whole room is kind of looking around them, and then they get into it, and everyone started singing Tainted Sports.
                                         
                                        By the end of it, everyone was really on board.
                                         
                                        And then they're like, you know, holding him up and carrying them out of the venue.
                                         
                                        And then you have to emcee an empty room.
                                         
    
                                        I've never seen, like, a better opener, because I think just before,
                                         
                                        just after that James Moorne went on
                                         
                                        and I was like, yeah, this is perfect.
                                         
                                        Like, this is the best kind of vibe
                                         
                                        to go into James Warren
                                         
                                        talking about the Moorbeck for 10 minutes.
                                         
                                        That really sets the table, yeah.
                                         
                                        We like Mourne a lot.
                                         
    
                                        He's another friend of the show.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I'm big fan of James Warren, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        So we're actually almost an hour there.
                                         
                                        That's not, man.
                                         
                                        Is there anything you wanted to ask us?
                                         
                                        How about that?
                                         
                                        Yeah, I was going to talk about Fall,
                                         
                                        but you go ahead.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, well, how's the fall?
                                         
                                        Oh, I'm sorry, well, let's talk about Fall then.
                                         
                                        I don't know, you want to talk to something?
                                         
                                        If not, it's cool, no pressure.
                                         
                                        I was being polite,
                                         
                                        there you know how is the fall it was interesting so who's your least favorite guest professional least
                                         
                                        every guest ever oh i haven't answered straight away but i bet i bet i think i spoke to you before after
                                         
                                        because you mentioned on the podcast one time you're like move on uh wait well i missed the question
                                         
    
                                        do you say who's the best or who's the worst least favorite yes oh okay
                                         
                                        i would probably say james warren he's like everyone's fave no yes he's a fan favorite very fun
                                         
                                        dynamic yeah yeah everyone likes so yeah it's fun because like brian will say something and then
                                         
                                        james would go what the fuck does that mean you stupid con
                                         
                                        and then I just go
                                         
                                        ha ha ha yes
                                         
                                        it's a great fun dynamic
                                         
                                        that everybody loves
                                         
    
                                        and then I leave
                                         
                                        and go into the bathroom
                                         
                                        and then water starts
                                         
                                        going under the door
                                         
                                        and I think did spudge
                                         
                                        but yeah
                                         
                                        no more it's good
                                         
                                        we enjoy and the fans seem to like it
                                         
    
                                        we need getting back on soon enough
                                         
                                        I tell you what
                                         
                                        I think we need to make a bigger effort
                                         
                                        this year of getting guests on
                                         
                                        because that's something
                                         
                                        that would really help us out
                                         
                                        even just like, you know why we just really hate each other
                                         
                                        sometimes, like, sometimes I literally,
                                         
    
                                        oh, all right, I will say sometimes
                                         
                                        when we record, I leave, and I just think of a crash
                                         
                                        in the car, I was like, I'd say
                                         
                                        like, that was an awful waste of my life, you know?
                                         
                                        Yep, I feel you.
                                         
                                        Yeah, but when James Borns around her, Mark Maloney,
                                         
                                        it changes the dynamic, you know?
                                         
                                        Hugely, I'm sorry.
                                         
    
                                        So, I mean, the fall is, um,
                                         
                                        it's about these women,
                                         
                                        they're like, love their adrenaline junkies.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        And they climb mountains with their boyfriend, Hank.
                                         
                                        one boyfriend between
                                         
                                        all of them
                                         
                                        No as well
                                         
    
                                        Who's the thing
                                         
                                        Polyamorous
                                         
                                        He's their friend
                                         
                                        He's a boy
                                         
                                        Blondy and black hair
                                         
                                        All right
                                         
                                        Why didn't you say
                                         
                                        Blondy and Blackie
                                         
    
                                        What didn't you say blondey
                                         
                                        And blacky
                                         
                                        There's a blondey
                                         
                                        And criminal
                                         
                                        Here
                                         
                                        But anyway
                                         
                                        So
                                         
                                        Karen and criminal
                                         
    
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        So
                                         
                                        So Hank
                                         
                                        Folls off a cliff
                                         
                                        And dies
                                         
                                        It's kind of like
                                         
                                        A big no-no
                                         
                                        When you're
                                         
    
                                        Like a mountain climber
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        It's kind of an L
                                         
                                        Give something
                                         
                                        it gives him the ick
                                         
                                        it was not a dope
                                         
                                        I'll tell you that now
                                         
    
                                        cringe
                                         
                                        so Hank it was married
                                         
                                        to Blondie
                                         
                                        alright
                                         
                                        yeah so Blondy
                                         
                                        becomes an alcoholic
                                         
                                        on the mountain
                                         
                                        no no
                                         
    
                                        I said it's a year
                                         
                                        actually in the bar
                                         
                                        just fucking strangers
                                         
                                        just giving a hickey
                                         
                                        to a St Bernard
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        sucking it down
                                         
                                        but then
                                         
    
                                        but then
                                         
                                        Brunette shows up
                                         
                                        she's like you know
                                         
                                        you gotta conquer your fear
                                         
                                        we're going to climb
                                         
                                        the highest tower
                                         
                                        in America
                                         
                                        and this big rusty
                                         
    
                                        old tower
                                         
                                        and it's like
                                         
                                        literally like a billion
                                         
                                        story
                                         
                                        high. So, literally.
                                         
                                        Then they climb up it, all right? They climb up
                                         
                                        to the very top, but then the ladder falls off
                                         
                                        and they're stuck at the top of this and they can't get down.
                                         
    
                                        What exactly is it, though? Is it like a...
                                         
                                        It's the Mia Khalifa, the largest tower.
                                         
                                        I beg your pardon. What? Freudian
                                         
                                        slip. That's like
                                         
                                        the Saudi thing, isn't it? Dabu Dhabi?
                                         
                                        The Birch Khalifa? I don't think it even is the tallest
                                         
                                        one anymore. I think, or maybe there's one coming up.
                                         
                                        It's going to be bigger. It's not even like a building. It's literally
                                         
    
                                        just like a rusty old
                                         
                                        Oh it's like the spire
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        It's a rusty spire
                                         
                                        With a ladder on it
                                         
                                        The HIV riddle spire
                                         
                                        These two bitches on the spire
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
    
                                        So it's like this thing
                                         
                                        It's a rusty thing
                                         
                                        It's like a little red light
                                         
                                        On the top to stop planes hitting it
                                         
                                        And it's got like satellites on it
                                         
                                        It's like I think it's like out commission
                                         
                                        Now that's what it's used
                                         
                                        For back in the day
                                         
    
                                        So then they've got to try
                                         
                                        And make their way down
                                         
                                        But they can't
                                         
                                        So it's stuck up there
                                         
                                        And it's kind of like
                                         
                                        Like the movie Gerard's
                                         
                                        Gerard's game
                                         
                                        Oh yeah
                                         
    
                                        where it's like a premise you're like
                                         
                                        how the hell you're going to make a movie out is
                                         
                                        and then you're watching it
                                         
                                        and you're kind of thing like
                                         
                                        ah it's you're doing okay
                                         
                                        is it good
                                         
                                        I didn't think it was good now
                                         
                                        and what happens is the girl finds out
                                         
    
                                        the brunette was also banging Hank
                                         
                                        cool
                                         
                                        why did she tell her that up there
                                         
                                        no what she had a Hank tattoo
                                         
                                        in her foot and her shoe falls off
                                         
                                        so then like
                                         
                                        it's whack
                                         
                                        really really
                                         
    
                                        that's literally how she finds out
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        that is so retarded
                                         
                                        because what happens is like
                                         
                                        this is dog shit
                                         
                                        they want to send a
                                         
                                        signal but they have no signal so they send the text but won't send so put the shoe and put the phone in the shoe and drop it from the tower they don't get reception when they're high up on the telephone tower they're too high yeah okay so they have to drop the phone and hope that it sends for hits the ground in the shoe and then she's the hang tattoo on her phone and it's like oh you're not my real friend um and then for a while they're trying to get down but the twist is okay twist is okay a one stage brunette um turns into a skeleton what it turns out brunette actually fed
                                         
                                        off and she's not real
                                         
    
                                        Brunette
                                         
                                        She's a hallucination
                                         
                                        She's hallucination
                                         
                                        Yeah Brunette's actually
                                         
                                        Why is she a skeleton though
                                         
                                        Oh to show the audience
                                         
                                        That she's dead
                                         
                                        You know
                                         
    
                                        So did she die with Hank
                                         
                                        No no no she died
                                         
                                        Is it like a skeleton
                                         
                                        clutching on to the tower
                                         
                                        No no no she's a talking skeleton
                                         
                                        Is it silly?
                                         
                                        No it's a hallucination
                                         
                                        But does it look silly?
                                         
    
                                        No no it's meant to look spooky
                                         
                                        Okay
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        This sounds retarded
                                         
                                        So it turns out
                                         
                                        Brunette died like 20 minutes before
                                         
                                        And blonde
                                         
                                        these just be done tower talking herself
                                         
    
                                        because she can't handle two debts
                                         
                                        you know even if there's a lying cheating
                                         
                                        bitch who fuck tank
                                         
                                        yeah did she push Brunette
                                         
                                        no no she fell like so she fell
                                         
                                        so did she know that
                                         
                                        so did she see the
                                         
                                        did she think the skeleton cheated on her
                                         
    
                                        or did it?
                                         
                                        No no no this before she falls
                                         
                                        so she finds out so she definitely
                                         
                                        did cheat on her
                                         
                                        oh yeah definitely cheated yeah
                                         
                                        it's not just like a coping mechanism
                                         
                                        of oh she's dead but it's actually good
                                         
                                        that she's dead
                                         
    
                                        because she was cheating on me
                                         
                                        yeah like your missis fell down
                                         
                                        that's sound daughter
                                         
                                        that's how well it's
                                         
                                        Jesus
                                         
                                        I was sending
                                         
                                        Like the clip that I posted
                                         
                                        I sent it around to some of my friends
                                         
    
                                        To be like
                                         
                                        Do I come across bitter or bad in this
                                         
                                        In any way
                                         
                                        And I feel like I've undone that now
                                         
                                        But just by
                                         
                                        No, you should be bitter
                                         
                                        But I need to encourage men
                                         
                                        To be more angry
                                         
    
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        There's not enough angry men out there
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah yeah
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        12 angry men
                                         
                                        It's very dutie
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
    
                                        Yeah you need like more
                                         
                                        Andrew Tate in your life
                                         
                                        You know
                                         
                                        I'd love to
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Andrew Tate's me of a pussy to be honest
                                         
                                        I can do better
                                         
                                        yeah he's got lung cancer now
                                         
    
                                        does he well allegedly
                                         
                                        oh i heard that i think
                                         
                                        people are disputing the legitimacy
                                         
                                        of it though they're saying that he's
                                         
                                        faking it to get out of prison
                                         
                                        but there was like an x-ray of his lungs
                                         
                                        and there was a kind of a ominous
                                         
                                        looking dark spot on the act
                                         
    
                                        so that's pretty bad i would say
                                         
                                        avoid just a complete lack of a heart
                                         
                                        a tumor
                                         
                                        tumors are bad no but that tumor is
                                         
                                        um you know misogynistic
                                         
                                        so whatever instagram there sorry
                                         
                                        yeah he does that a lot
                                         
                                        I'll tell you what
                                         
    
                                        we might head off soon now
                                         
                                        because we're just at an hour there now
                                         
                                        and that was great
                                         
                                        have you got anything to plug
                                         
                                        or anything before we
                                         
                                        hop off?
                                         
                                        Not really,
                                         
                                        I am here on jury duty
                                         
    
                                        so I don't really have
                                         
                                        I'm gay
                                         
                                        Do you want people to come to jury duty
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Everyone wants to hang outside
                                         
                                        Are you doing bits
                                         
                                        Have you won everyone over
                                         
                                        Are you like John Cusack
                                         
    
                                        Dude oh in
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        In the room
                                         
                                        Because it is just a big empty room
                                         
                                        I was tempted to
                                         
                                        I don't know if you ever saw that tweet
                                         
                                        Where the woman like
                                         
                                        Was getting up
                                         
    
                                        It was a cinema
                                         
                                        and the screening wasn't working
                                         
                                        and then this woman
                                         
                                        just got up
                                         
                                        and did five minutes
                                         
                                        and like made everyone
                                         
                                        in the cinema
                                         
                                        watch her to stand up
                                         
    
                                        no they all hated it
                                         
                                        oh obviously
                                         
                                        the room
                                         
                                        the waiting room
                                         
                                        is laid out like a big
                                         
                                        crowd
                                         
                                        so you could
                                         
                                        in theory
                                         
    
                                        get up and just do
                                         
                                        a tight five
                                         
                                        wow
                                         
                                        probably get disqualified
                                         
                                        him usually
                                         
                                        you get sent home
                                         
                                        be like this guy's mentally ill
                                         
                                        sent him away
                                         
    
                                        but uh
                                         
                                        no I guess
                                         
                                        yeah I can't really plan anything
                                         
                                        I was meant to be doing
                                         
                                        a big gig in cork
                                         
                                        in the pavilion
                                         
                                        which doesn't mean anything
                                         
                                        to anyone in Dublin
                                         
    
                                        I guess, but it's a large room, and I don't think
                                         
                                        we're going to fill it. But I don't know if I'll
                                         
                                        be able to do it now, and I haven't actually told the lads that I don't know
                                         
                                        if I'll be able to do it. Who's, who's the other
                                         
                                        lads? Tom Lawrence is hosting.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah. He's good.
                                         
                                        Skinny. He's, we like that.
                                         
                                        Yeah. He's English.
                                         
    
                                        Yeah. John James is hosting,
                                         
                                        or is, uh, headlining. Okay.
                                         
                                        I don't know you've ever seen John James. No.
                                         
                                        He's good. Okay.
                                         
                                        He's white?
                                         
                                        Yes. Okay.
                                         
                                        Oh, I shouldn't.
                                         
                                        I just checking. They are, I guess everyone is white.
                                         
    
                                        You can trust him. He works.
                                         
                                        He works.
                                         
                                        an old has he knows these things
                                         
                                        we have one South American woman
                                         
                                        that's a bit
                                         
                                        yeah that's something all right
                                         
                                        there's Leslie Martinez
                                         
                                        I know her yeah
                                         
    
                                        there's Don McDonough
                                         
                                        Leslie's not white
                                         
                                        she's South American
                                         
                                        he never claimed
                                         
                                        all right sorry
                                         
                                        okay sorry
                                         
                                        I'd be the whole race thing here
                                         
                                        Rosso Donahoo
                                         
    
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        yeah he'd like me crash in his gaff
                                         
                                        one time
                                         
                                        Ray Murphy
                                         
                                        he's good people oh wait
                                         
                                        wait
                                         
                                        wait
                                         
                                        it's all good yeah
                                         
    
                                        it's all good yeah
                                         
                                        your buddy
                                         
                                        why your people are
                                         
                                        assuming that me and Ray have beef.
                                         
                                        We don't have beef. I think the...
                                         
                                        The roast battle. Yeah, what everyone enjoys
                                         
                                        is the idea that you have beef.
                                         
                                        Everyone assumes James' beef everyone.
                                         
    
                                        No, me and him got on fine.
                                         
                                        It was kind of the judges and the crowd
                                         
                                        that hated both of us.
                                         
                                        But I actually had a bit of a redemption
                                         
                                        there. I won the last roast battle.
                                         
                                        You know, you know.
                                         
                                        People did apologize
                                         
                                        for me. It was Rob Nother, was it?
                                         
    
                                        What? Rob Nother.
                                         
                                        Yes, I defeated Rob Nother.
                                         
                                        Jesus is a poor innocent boy.
                                         
                                        A little child and I had my
                                         
                                        way with him and a room full of
                                         
                                        cheering people.
                                         
                                        Oh, like a gladiator.
                                         
                                        Are you not entertained?
                                         
    
                                        While I fucked him.
                                         
                                        Ha ha ha ha. That's the gag here.
                                         
                                        I raped him.
                                         
                                        That's the goof.
                                         
                                        That's the goof.
                                         
                                        No, I didn't.
                                         
                                        It was a great.
                                         
                                        A gym watched the whole thing.
                                         
    
                                        I loved it.
                                         
                                        It was a fun.
                                         
                                        It was very fun night, though.
                                         
                                        I had a lot of fun.
                                         
                                        Rob's good guy.
                                         
                                        I like Rob a lot.
                                         
                                        So he had some funny jokes about me.
                                         
                                        being a pig
                                         
    
                                        he handed me
                                         
                                        a Snickers
                                         
                                        bar at one time
                                         
                                        That's good
                                         
                                        You get to eat it
                                         
                                        Oh I took it home
                                         
                                        And I oh I did enjoy it
                                         
                                        Yes
                                         
    
                                        It tasted like victory
                                         
                                        And like a Snickers
                                         
                                        Also
                                         
                                        Yeah it was good
                                         
                                        So have you got any plans
                                         
                                        For the rest of the year
                                         
                                        In life
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
    
                                        I mean like you know
                                         
                                        I'll be in Edinburgh
                                         
                                        for a week
                                         
                                        But I'm just kind of going
                                         
                                        On a holiday
                                         
                                        Before you go Edinburgh
                                         
                                        We want to get you back
                                         
                                        On the show
                                         
    
                                        Yeah I'll try to gig about
                                         
                                        I guess I'm doing EP
                                         
                                        At the end of the
                                         
                                        Show me the funny
                                         
                                        the prizes to do electric picnic.
                                         
                                        So if anyone's there, it's meant to be a terrible gig.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        So if anyone's at EP and wants to go and...
                                         
    
                                        Is it like during the daytime?
                                         
                                        I hope so.
                                         
                                        I really hope that I don't miss any good musicians.
                                         
                                        Sure.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        To bomb at a set.
                                         
                                        Like a full weekend pass there.
                                         
                                        Yeah, I think so, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        That's pretty sweet.
                                         
                                        It's kind of cool.
                                         
                                        That's nice.
                                         
                                        It's nice.
                                         
                                        I get two tickets.
                                         
                                        So whoever wants to be my friend.
                                         
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Shady friends.
                                         
    
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        I would be your lady friend.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
                                        Actually, can I be your...
                                         
                                        No, let's talk about it afterwards.
                                         
                                        I'll give you money for it.
                                         
                                        Oh, yeah.
                                         
    
                                        For an EP ticket.
                                         
                                        And I'll service you.
                                         
                                        I'll service you.
                                         
                                        That'll really make it the VIP experience.
                                         
                                        Yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        You can dress me up at the same room.
                                         
                                        And I'll say, people would be like, oh, is that your friend?
                                         
                                        Like, no, this is my staff for the weekend.
                                         
    
                                        I wear a dog collar.
                                         
                                        Yeah, that's how people know.
                                         
                                        That's part of show me the funniest.
                                         
                                        It's part of the prize.
                                         
                                        You get Brian.
                                         
                                        You used to be a Bulmer's voucher.
                                         
                                        Now it's Brian O'Toole
                                         
                                        On tap
                                         
    
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        This was tweeting
                                         
                                        Like enjoy your brino tool
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        That's right
                                         
                                        It's very inside baseball
                                         
                                        Yeah
                                         
                                        Very much so
                                         
    
                                        You know it's funny
                                         
                                        We'll end in a second
                                         
                                        But he's still alive
                                         
                                        You know
                                         
                                        He is
                                         
                                        Every now and again
                                         
                                        I don't go on Twitter
                                         
                                        That much
                                         
    
                                        Every now and again
                                         
                                        Like I'm looking at like
                                         
                                        Let's say like
                                         
                                        Hey
                                         
                                        Look
                                         
                                        To each his own
                                         
                                        You know
                                         
                                        I'd just go where the money is
                                         
    
                                        But uh whatever
                                         
                                        Well look
                                         
                                        Let's have a clean ending there
                                         
                                        Oh yeah
                                         
                                        That's about
                                         
                                        Let's cut all of that.
                                         
                                        Yeah, actually, yeah, yeah.
                                         
                                        Well, look, man, it's great to have you here.
                                         
    
                                        Thanks for having me.
                                         
                                        I want to have you back, all right?
                                         
                                        That's not bullshit, not blowing ass up your smoke, all right?
                                         
                                        I really want you to hear of it.
                                         
                                        I'm not blowing smoke in the car.
                                         
                                        And what are your handles?
                                         
                                        Give us your handles.
                                         
                                        Oh, it's, I guess, at Mark Maloney at Instagram, but it's like spelled phonetically,
                                         
    
                                        but not really phonetically.
                                         
                                        I don't know.
                                         
                                        Oh, great.
                                         
                                        It's difficult.
                                         
                                        Mark, and then Maloney is spelled M-O-L-O-W-K-N-E.
                                         
                                        so it's like M-O low low me you're the right podcast for an inability to market that's
                                         
                                        kind of our brand yeah if you look up enough macballotis and see one with like long hair and a
                                         
                                        mustache yeah that's me yeah yeah there you go okay well happy to have you here I hope you enjoy
                                         
    
                                        Edinburgh and all that'll be fun and we will see again yeah I'm sure about to see you
                                         
                                        tell you what's the pub over there yeah not reveal where we're from now the pub over there
                                         
                                        is meant to have the best
                                         
                                        pints of Guinness
                                         
                                        in Dublin.
                                         
                                        Really?
                                         
                                        So maybe we could
                                         
                                        Have the Grieve Diggers?
                                         
    
                                        Yeah.
                                         
                                        Okay, great.
                                         
                                        Well, everybody knows.
                                         
                                        Who do you think's common
                                         
                                        for you, Brian, really?
                                         
                                        Who's coming?
                                         
                                        Who's coming?
                                         
                                        It's not safe out there.
                                         
    
                                        Well,
                                         
                                        Grave Diggers is known
                                         
                                        to have the best pint of Guinness
                                         
                                        in Dublin.
                                         
                                        So my point is,
                                         
                                        if you all go over there
                                         
                                        sometime, I have a pint.
                                         
                                        Or just have a pint
                                         
    
                                        somewhere else or just hang out at least.
                                         
                                        Or just drink cans
                                         
                                        under a bridge, you know.
                                         
                                        All of my male social interactions
                                         
                                        now happen
                                         
                                        via gigs and podcasts.
                                         
                                        it's not like that yeah it's great
                                         
                                        nothing truly social
                                         
    
                                        it's a little secret we have
                                         
                                        women don't have that
                                         
                                        yeah they just hang out
                                         
                                        and like talk about
                                         
                                        their feelings
                                         
                                        they go to the bathroom together
                                         
                                        they don't know anything
                                         
                                        with the fall
                                         
    
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        yeah
                                         
                                        I'm glad the way this episode
                                         
                                        fall is coming
                                         
                                        for everyone
                                         
                                        let me tell you
                                         
                                        I'm glad the way episode went
                                         
                                        I'm glad I didn't get to talk
                                         
    
                                        too much about the movies
                                         
                                        because that would actually
                                         
                                        like Godfather 2
                                         
                                        would have ruined the whole thing
                                         
                                        you know
                                         
                                        yeah I want to talk
                                         
                                        I enjoy talking to you
                                         
                                        I'm excited to incessantly
                                         
    
                                        listen to this
                                         
                                        and cringe in every
                                         
                                        flop joke I made
                                         
                                        or every
                                         
                                        good moment
                                         
                                        that I have.
                                         
                                        You were great.
                                         
                                        Zero, zero.
                                         
    
                                        I'll cut it out.
                                         
                                        Don't worry.
                                         
                                        I don't feature it on.
                                         
                                        I mean, Brian's usually
                                         
                                        the dead weight,
                                         
                                        so you'll look great in comparison.
                                         
                                        No, I'm joking.
                                         
                                        You're wonderful, Brian.
                                         
    
                                        You're wonderful.
                                         
                                        All right, turn off.
                                         
                                        All right, look, that's it.
                                         
                                        That's the show.
                                         
                                        Thanks for listening.
                                         
                                        And Mark, you're probably listening to this right now.
                                         
                                        Oh, but not in...
                                         
                                        A future me.
                                         
    
                                        I'm looking at you while you're listening.
                                         
                                        to me in a different room
                                         
                                        it's like time travel but not gay
                                         
                                        put it down because brian says time travels
                                         
                                        gay now yeah oh yeah
                                         
                                        right Christopher Lloyd's gay
                                         
                                        yeah right you believe that
                                         
                                        I got a I got an igloo
                                         
    
                                        in Saudi Arabia to sell you
                                         
                                        however that saying goes
                                         
                                        I hope my I hope my ex
                                         
                                        doesn't hatefully listen to this
                                         
                                        I hope she does
                                         
                                        funnily enough she's our next guest actually
                                         
                                        and she's here tonight come on him
                                         
                                        uh yeah
                                         
    
                                        Take that gag out of her mouth.
                                         
                                        Ah, right, okay.
                                         
                                        Jesus, come on.
                                         
                                        Come on.
                                         
                                        It's the real person.
                                         
                                        All right, all right.
                                         
                                        I'm sorry.
                                         
                                        Yes, I do forget there are real people out there.
                                         
    
                                        Anyway, we'll edit that.
                                         
                                        Bye.
                                         
                                        Goodbye.
                                         
                                        Goodbye.
                                         
