Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 196 : Swapcast With Paul Marsh

Episode Date: May 29, 2023

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start recording okay okay love me for me you've gone quite the minute i press record sorry yeah yeah i thought we were gonna do like an intro i know i will do an intro i will do an intro quite a little start there to preamble yeah so i'm gonna do a start in that going uh this is such and such a podcast anyway before this so i just i just introduced it okay um so i'm here um in upstairs in my uh your lovely house i have to say it's very nice well my little office i was going to say but uh so who's in man cave but man key yeah it's very

infantilised kind of version office is more don't draper man caves yeah no everyone told me don't buy a treadmill

you never use it and we did for the first see that thing at the top of it I'll put my laptop up there I'll watch

TV shows and just watch forest gump over and over again exactly because he you know see Brian is straight down to business

we're here at the top of not the running part that only Mick Yangree why can he run more than me I am

so Brian and James I just want to give you intro first because you're the first podcast I listen to us. So this is like... Really? Yeah. He got me into podcasting. Wow. That's great. I remember not too long ago either. Am I listened to you maybe five years?

Would you be going on? We've been going to? No, we started in 2018. So 18, 90, 25 years. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So you're from the beginning? Yeah, probably. Yeah. Wow. Thank you. And because I remember... Why? Why did you say, what made you think I'll give this? You go. And you know what the funny thing is?

I thought I'd love to have a podcast and I was thinking, what would I do? And I would talk about, what do I know about, or whatever? Or what do I like talking about? Movies. And then the very first thought about what would I do about a movies thing is to have like the comedy arguments, the comedians that are into,

and again, I'm a roundabout way of saying, he inspired this podcast because of your bad review of one of my favorite movies. Oh, yes, that's a, I like that. I might not say bad review now. Well, hang on. Is this a forest good. gone. I actually, it's episode 177 of the year

podcast. Wow, you've got a bookmarked in your brain. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. We're living red free in your That was pretty good episodes. I remember when it came out, I actually thought, I'm in a bad mood. I'm not going to listen to that for a few weeks, just for fear. Because just a quick synopsis of the two guys here. So, James, you went to college to study. Film production. Film and TV, yes. And you

have a big understanding of movies. and you talk about, yeah, I'd be, yes. And the background of movies and stuff. And all the classics you can discuss in Great Lenton, the whole lot. I am quite pretentious. Yes. Well, no, no, but you know your movies, but then.

I couldn't take the compliment. I had to like make it. Oh, yeah, I'm a freak. See, that right there, James. At least you're aware of what you're doing there, yeah. You push people away. I do, I do. And then over to Brian then, who watches the greatest amount of shite that's on.

Exactly. movies you have never heard of until you tune in to your podcast French stuff about women having sex with cars That was a good movie You had sex with a fire engine I believe

And then my favorite is when you go to Old Classics Classics that I remember Like thinking brilliant film When I came out at the time Like Malice And then He was slated

I just used now Because you slated down I don't even remember What he said about I thought we were pretty I thought we were kind of talking up Malice a bit, were we? No, no. Brian was like, and what I got

was his whole approach to it was just like see the thing is again, you would call it, you notice, you notice story art thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, three-act structure. Yeah, so back in the 90s when Malice and I was out, that was you had two or your three, now you have four or five, you know, we've adapted, obviously movies are way better.

Yeah, yeah. I think when people see an old movie, they don't well it's true you do kind of have to watch it and keep in mind so i'm pretty forgiving with that as like i'll be kind of conscious of this was made in a certain time and i'll give it a bit of leeway yeah uh but yeah it's kind of now the whole triac structure or like the 12 acts of the hero's journey joseph campbell all that stuff it's a bit more sophisticated now because cynics like us come in and be we try and pick it apart and like uh no it's actually quite derivative. Is it more...

Wait, it's more complex now, you might say. Well, when it's done well... I'd say the opposite. I'd say now a lot of the... Well, the movies that make to the theaters now, the big one...

I'm not counting Marvel or any of that shit. Well, I'd say they're all taking that kind of mold right there now. Oh, very much so, yeah. And getting more and more simplified for the Chinese market. Yes.

I was reading as well, the Chinese produced a little microchips, all right? Like, we are in huge, we're in need of the Chinese and their microchips. We, like, 95% of our microchips come from China. That's how you get the foreign lunge down the bloody, yeah?

No? So, what was my point? My point is, James is very cerebral, all right? Not really. I kind of, like, very much a creature of chaos. I just start talking about Chinese for a while when we're talking about movies. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, you're right, though.

Like, when I was talking about more sophisticated, I was kind of referencing, you know, actual decent films, you know, that are well made as opposed to, I understand there's definitely a place for the Marvel stuff but as you said for the Chinese market and for the retards you got to sorry you want to keep this kind of PC don't you? A little bit of PC yeah okay bleep that out for the

for the for the stuff so worse okay do you have I'm sorry go ahead go ahead I just try to I got it is why I didn't get the late late show I wasn't even

wasn't even in content well your dad's also dead yeah I tried to blame the RAA they were having none of it I was just for the insurance company though It's like, no, the ram did that The ram made him depressed No, I'm looking

We're literally four minutes in I have a problem Actually I would make a serious point for a minute Go on The movies, I think the movie industry now The movies that make the cinemas Have been simplified And they're kind of designed

So even if you don't speak the language You can understand like oh He's driving the car he needs to jump over there oh he jumped over oh his brother is happy that kind of very very simplified his daughter's scared

he's got to do that he's got jump in a helicopter the kind of the actual good movies now are not movies they're just TV shows yeah you're right yeah but even the Netflix stuff

some of that is good but the reason obviously I brought this up is we're about to talk about Forrest Gump and Pulpiction and Pulpiction changed the whole movie yes completely yeah yeah

now I'm going to call the villain now how did it change and this is me actually I'm not like where how do it change it you fool

I'm like what did Forrest Gump like what was the big kind of like innovation or what I'm talking about well my whole part I remember what's going on

he said Pulpiction changed it not Forest Gump not Forest Gump Pulp Fiction did change things yes yeah yeah yeah

because after that like see it's all listening Brian you know you got to listen this was 1994 what age of you Brandon

I was I think minus one years old. You were born in 95. I was born in 89. So when did you see Pulp Fiction first? It was on TG Catter. If some reason TG Catter, the Irish, kind of, um, how do you describe TGChi? The Irish language. So Jem, what I talk to,

motherfucker. Yeah. Yeah. They show a lot really good movies late at night. Yes. Yeah. So I would have watched it there. I think Goodfell as well as where I watched it. They used to, TG Cater. That's where I first saw The Wire, Curb Your Enthusiasm. Yeah. The O.C., which obviously isn't good, but the three greatest shows of all but yeah it's just they showed some really good stuff back in the day

my wife was telling me i was telling her yesterday that i was doing this uh podcast with you and um she was telling me that when we met we were only going out and i was asked her about have you know but movies that she hadn't seen yeah and she hadn't seen publicion so i met her watch a public fiction i was like fuck sake yeah yeah yeah and um shortly afterwards she was in the pub with friends of hers and they were talking about movies and she said i saw this movie and there was this guy and there was another guy who's a boxer and he had a watch and she was this that and they were all like

looking at her going is she taking the piss is she she she's trying to like tell us about a movie about Pul fiction one of the most famous movies everyone to see it yeah yeah yeah I saw a movie it was a gangster man and he's rubbing a cat

yeah and there was a bit of dance and I think it was a Greek sequel actually yeah it is it's you know but when you're kind of like a movie fanatic

kind of we all are, then there aren't, not everyone is obsessed with movies, so some people can go through life and be kind of unaware of quitting Tarantino and Martin's Christaise. It is like, you know, it's a very small world you create. It was like, you don't know about, Felini.

You fucking idiot. Phelini. Eight and a half weeks or some shit. You have to step back and make sure you don't sound like a comic book guy type. Yeah, yeah. Well, it's funny because kind of, I always considered

being kind of a film buff kind of like cool and artsy but now it's sort of being oh if he likes fight club it means he's a nazi it's like it's sort of morphed into this kind of unpleasant thing i may be a nazi but not do a fight club but come here can i just say that um the thing about i just forest gump and pull fiction that argument right that people oh my god i can't believe pulp fiction lost the forest gum that's an argument that's had all the times where you have two great things, but on a different levels, that people feel the need to pit them against each other.

Well, you know, Forrest Gump is very much the crowd pleaser and that's exactly what I was going to say. It's more outlasting. It's pitted against each other because the academy have pitted against each other. It's not just like the people. Yeah, the Academy, yeah. I'll do it actually, as we're talking here, I might look

up out of interest what other movies were nominated that year. Brian, you know the way did you do a podcast and you take notes? Yeah. Well, I have you beaten this show. I've everything here. He's steer the ship. See, Brian can't relinquish control. Just relax, Brian.

It's all good. You're safe. And come here, the reason I did that is because I've, on another level, I've always argued that 1994 is one of the best years ever for movies. Yeah. Waiting you hear what was nominated for Best Picture, right? Four weddings and a funeral. Brilliant movie. That's a good film. Quiz show.

Quiz show is great. Yeah, that was quiz show. Yeah, it's good. And it's a true story, which I thought was. Robert Redford. yeah okay so one of these first yeah he directed it yeah he did and it was uh ralph fines wasn't it oh no no do anything about it no should we uh i have kind of forgotten in that it was a quiz show it was a it was a rigged wasn't it was a rigged quiz show right either cbs or nbcc didn't want the weird guy to win it

they wanted the handsome guy to oh okay yeah yeah who was it was it was ralph fines and some other guy was it um i could find out for you now in a second i'll google it right there but anyway they wanted Gilbert Godfrey Yeah And they wanted A handsome Gilbert Godfrey Doing

Of course A look at Miki talk So that's kind of like Note to self Have IMBD open at all times When I'm doing this podcast

Yeah Well I guess Well you're both Looking stuff up I'll keep talking So We're both Google it now

Somebody's got to keep this thing Chris Sean 1994 I think I've got it before you He got it up first Brian John Datoro Ah

That's a good pick For a weirdo Yeah For a 90s weirdo You know Compare him to some actual freaks out there. He's

Brad Pitt, you know, but back then it's like, oh, he's tall and hairy. What a freaking monster. That was one of the first ones I remember the Hank Azari was in as well. Yeah, he's good enough. So it's, I imagine it's kind of like a black comedy satire kind of thing. It's actually in black and white as far as I remember,

wasn't it? I don't, I'm not too sure if it is or not. I haven't seen, I literally saw it in college. I think it was like my first year in college, they were all going out and part. I was like, guys, be quiet. I'm watching quiz show. I'm some Adderall, I'm watching quiz show. So come here, four weddings, quiz show, and here we go, right.

Pulp Fiction, Shawshank Redemption. Damn, yeah. And Forrest Gump. That was the five. And Forrest Gump, one best picture. One best picture. So it even beat out Shawshank. Yeah. Wow.

Best director that year was Woody Allen for Bullets Over Broadway. Come on. Hey, I mean, I love Woody Allen's work. Got to say it like that, but, and his movies. Oh, you dirty dog. on now. Christoph. I was a bit mean, actually.

Slyowski. Three colors red. Do you know that movie? No. I'm familiar with it. Yeah. The French film. I've watched some of the three colors.

Not all of them. Tree colors red, white and blue, right? I watched the one with the sad French woman. Yeah, that's all of them. Okay. You're right. Sorry. No, that's Quay Show again.

And that was John Totoro. Morgan, so best actors was Morgan Freeman. Nigel Hawthorne for the madness of King George. That was another good. I didn't see that one. Well, he's good. Well, he's good. Paul Newman for Nobody's Fool, which was a good movie.

John Travolta for Pulp Fiction and then Hanks won that as well. Yeah, so how many, Hanks, I mean, Forrest Gump was the big winner that year. Are many of it? Yeah, big time. Pulp Fiction run a few.

I think it was kind of like screenplay and stuff like that. Pulp Fiction won't screenplay directly written whereas Forrest Gump once screenplay adapted. Adaptive. It's based on a book. Who wrote the book? I'm not too sure, but the guy...

Good, no nerds. Well, the guy... Phil and Bros. He actually didn't get tanked in any speeches. He didn't even get an invite. And the worst of it then is Samuel L Jackson was up for best supporting actor Okay

Who beat him on Oh because and it was Ed Wood Martin Landau That was a sympathy vote Yeah But he is very good And I didn't realize Ed Wood was 94 They got screwed on every

And I never knew Because I always thought it was in hindsight Because I thought oh Pulpiction then Over the next few years And people look back and thought that was But it seems on the night Quentin Tarantino went up the stage And said

I think this looks like the only thing I'm going to win I could talk to you all night about how wrong this or something Oh really? Yeah, yeah Oh wow

It's very coked up Yeah Yeah So I mean his first time doing Cocaine is like I like how this feels But all right

I got to tell me in Hollywood about cocaine They don't know the truth Harvey put down that nine year old Oh But he He had made reservoir dogs Yes

He had sold True Romance To make Reservoir dogs and natural born killers. He had then become an advisor on true romance with Tony Scott because he met reservoirs really fast. And then he eventually like had

got a bit of clout and med pulp. This was literally like his second movie that he was making. Yeah. So he sold off the first two scripts like true romance and natural born killers and they were trying to buy reservoir dogs and he was like no way I'm directing that. I'm making this one. Nobody's touching that one

which was the right choice because then he got the cloud to me. make fucking pop fiction. If I'm correct, didn't, I think he started to make a different movie and it was a really low budget movie called my girlfriend's boyfriend or something like that. Are you guys familiar with this?

Oh yeah, my girl, yeah, something like that. It was something about a girl being a mental patient and it was something like, I think they filmed it for like three days and just gave up because of budget and all that. Oh wow. Yeah. So I'd love to know more about that and if that's a script going around. I mean, he probably had a few misfires. He also did

some acting work back then. Like, can you'd see him pop up and stuff. Known for his appearance in Golden Girls. Correct. Sorry, I was going to say, I remember that he had, if you look at his IMBD, there's like he's on a couple of TV shows and stuff like that.

And there's that real kind of clip that went viral a couple of years ago, or not, no, recently because of the Top Gun sequel, but he was in some shitty movie in the 90s. It's called like my best, what was that fucking? I'm not too sure. It doesn't even,

yeah, it was a bad film, but it's him at a party talking about the character. character in Top Gun and how it's all an allegory for homosexuality. Oh, yeah, that's actually from a movie. Yeah, yeah, I remember seeing that. It's like, it's literally one scene. He's only in that one scene.

It's a little cameo he has. Yeah, yeah. But like, it's weird. He's not a great actor, but if you get him, if you cast him properly, he can't be good in certain roles, you know? Casting is so much more important in acting in a way. Like, Polly Walnuts isn't like, you know, he couldn't do yes minister, you know. He couldn't do like, oh, what are you, with the Thames, what is there?

He couldn't play a British gentleman. He couldn't, you know, but when you get someone in the right role, it's easy and you're letting fly. And it's so, it's funny when you're, when you're into movies and you're reading all these trivia stuff online and the whole life. You know, Taken, Jeff Bridges was the, they were trying to get him to do that. Wow. And just at the last minute, he realized, oh, no, there's a lot of work involved here physically. I'm not actually doing it. And they wouldn't got Liam Neeson.

Like, you couldn't imagine Taken without Liam Neeson. No, yeah. Well, what's funny is then, like, you know, over a decade later, Jeff Bridges is in that show, the old man. Yeah, the old man, but yeah, he doesn't actually do that much in it. Oh, it's right. And that's basically, that's a real trend now, kind of like, you know. Get the old guy.

Get the, you know, older guys, but they had some, you know, fucking Marines training. So now they can kick the shit out of 30 people in their 20s. I'm waiting for that to happen in comedy, you know. Speaking of old guys are totally different, because I'm going to come back to Fariscom, but I was talking about you guys yesterday. Thank you. Yeah.

You're literally the only one out there promoting us. No, it's not to do with the podcast. Well, it is kind of to do with the podcast. Oh, those allegations. Well, those are banishless. No, it's something about, um, that we were talking about, you know, when you, as you get older, you just kind of, you learn lessons and you kind of look at this at that

and I taught it of this as an example. You were talking on your podcast about one of the guys that lived with one of you was doing this kind of an Airbnb for your car. Oh, yeah, yeah. I remember you did this episode and you were like, oh, and so-and-so's car and people are collecting it because there's like an Airbnb for your

car. Yeah, basically you don't know. It's like Airbnb you rent out your car, a stranger comes along, takes your car away and you never see it again. Well, this is the thing, your first episode, you were like, that's a great idea. And I remember listening to it going, that's a terrible idea. Well, you're right. So then we come back in the next episode, you're like,

so Solso's car got robbed and it was used as a... Yeah, it was used to traffic drugs by a Chinese criminal gang, basically the Yakuza. I know they're Japanese, but go with me here. The Yakuza Yeah, the fucking Balimun Yakuza came in and we're using it to traffic trucks. I don't know why

it chewed. I don't, because as I say, I was just listened to you yesterday, but... Well, actually, that guy, he's my roommate, he's been my friend for years, so he's a big fan of our podcast. He's also a fan of yours, because he used to come to my early gigs. So one of my first gigs was in Wielands, and he saw you

was like, that fireman guy was brilliant. I think I've met him I think you have met him Actually, you probably have Yeah, yeah But yeah I don't have that many fans So I must have a man

Yeah Yes, it's a very small pool That we're all kind of We're all drinking from the same well You know But I, sorry, Going back to Forest Gump anyway In Pulpiction

And the reason that we're here This intervention To be honest, I think I, you know I sort of, you know I kind of railed on and said Oh, stupid I understand a lot of it is

um you know it's like allegory or metaphorical but i was just taking it like for face value he couldn't actually run across the country what a fucking this is stupid there's so much about it that's just i'm glad james said that because i think james is way more negative of forest gum to me i'm the one taking the brunt of this you're right no no we're both like i was definitely i am i'll hold my hands up here feeling i'm in the hague i was uh i was definitely bashing on forest gump unfairly but you know it's just For some reason, I just kind of get a kick out of seeing something that's beloved by everyone and just going, that's actually shit. See, my point would be like that.

I love Pulp Fiction. I think it's brilliant. And I love for it. I just think they're totally different movies for people to pitch the two against. It's okay to just go, yeah, they were both brilliant. You know what I mean? Forest Gump. That's not the world we live in.

You choose a side and you die on that hill. My analogy there would be that Pulp Fiction is, peeky blinders fight in the pub and Forrest Gump is Delby falling through the hatch that's kind of like

you know what I mean it's totally even I Paul vaguely get that reference I have not watched peeky blinders now I've watched only films and horses

yeah we all know the only fools and horses bit I reenact that bit in plainness my own I'm like oh watch out trigger I just fall over

over hit my head oh oh my David Jason yeah I haven't watched peeky blinders either that would be funny if you've over in the pub and just jumped up back up and went

only Fulton Horses! Yeah, isn't he? But you're bleeding continuously. Where's Trigger? Come on. I'm Dell, boy. I actually, I've never seen peeky blinders, I said perky blinders. I never seen

peeky blinders by having a rational hatred because I have to deal with all of Americans who are like, oh my God, I'm in Ireland. I feel like I'm in Peaky Blinders land right now. Which was men in Birmingham, yeah. I know, yeah. Also, you see a lot of guys dressed like the peeky blinders now. It's kind of like a new... They're all

cunt. And the haircuts. I just can't go. Yeah, yeah, yeah, like the flat caps and the big, you know, the tweed jackets, but they're only 19, you know? I think there's barbers all over Dublin, just kind of doing those haircuts and in their own head, they're going, can't believe I'm getting paid to do this shit. This is fucking, I don't even have to blend. I just do a fucking line around, like, this is going back to the old times where your mother put a bowl over your head. I just, yeah, did the old scissors around the ball. These dickheads are paying me 25 and 30 euros to do this.

Yeah, yeah. I get my hair cut by a middle-aged woman in Monaghan, and that's how I like it. She was my auntie, so, you know, much love and respect. Also local prostitute. No, not local. She's branching out now. She's diversifying her revenue streams, and not just those streams. So anyway, Forestcombe versus Pulpiction.

How do you guys want? Her husband would batter me, by the way. That never gets out. I'd love to see it. Now, how do you want, so you are team Forrest Gump? I'm Team Forest Gump. You want to be team. Yeah, you can be team.

I'm team Ed Wood in the corner. I do love Ed Wood now. You're Martin Lando, doing heroin. Just the Oscar thing, can I just say, by the way, you know what won best cinematography? The only one that kind of didn't, out of all those that didn't, you know, in anything else or wasn't in for any. Legends of the Falls, did you ever see that film? Oh, with Brad Pitt. That was the most, like, yeah, Brad Pitt was in it, yeah.

What's that? It's like really shit, I think. It never heard of this. I remember seeing the first going, did I enjoy that? You know when you watch a movie go, did I enjoy that? And when you look back at it now,

it was a real like that they just tried to take every box going. They had this. What was it even about like two brothers? It was about a bunch of brothers. One went off to war. So they sent the other one after him. Okay. And he died.

And then the brother came back and married his girlfriend. Right. Kind of like Hunter Biden. Yes. Yeah. Hunter Biden. Well, he banged is that. his dead brother's

ex-wife. Yeah. He did. So what happens to the movie, by the way? Oh, so he comes back, Brad Pitt comes back, and then he... But there's an Indian girl, they're living on a big farm,

a big farm, a big ranch on the side of the river. Reservation? Yeah. And Anthony Hopkins is the father. Oh, okay. I have heard of Legends of the Fall really only because it was one of Brad Pitt's, like, first movie roles.

Yeah, but... And in it, like, he has long blonde hair. This is like young Brad Pitt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Even a, even a manly man like you, Brian, he'd turn your head, you know? Which are pink microphone.

Yeah, pink microphone and purple jumper. It's a look. It's a nice jumper though, you know? It's actually something I must go back to the legends of the fall and watch that again. Am I doing now? I'm going through this phase at the moment rather than because there's not that many new movies or maybe it's just because I'm old. I'm going back through old classics and watching

them again. Yeah. Let me ask you a question. Name any good movies, long-lasting movies that he's actually, like from last like year or like two years. It's not that many. No, there's not. There's not that you go back and watch it over and over. Yeah. I mean, you know the last, sorry for Cunning

the last movie that I remember watching and thinking I will watch this on a regular basis was nobody with... Oh yeah, Bob Baudenker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was, I mean, again that's kind of like from the The Taken School of Phil DeMacon is like, you know, but that was fun, I remember enjoying watching it.

I tell you, like, one, a couple of good movies came out there, like, the menu. Did you see the menu? No. I really enjoyed the menu, yeah. People say good things about it? Yeah, yeah. I mean, there were a few kind of in, like,

Oscar contention there. Like, what were some of the Oscar ones? All the Oscar movies that come out, you know, like, I watch it and never want to watch. You know, they ever see that movie about the deaf people? Oh, Coda. Coda, yeah. Basically is like a lifetime movie.

Yeah. It's so saccharine sweet And like, there's a deaf person She feels sad Oh no And they've got a daughter Who can hear She can't relate to her parents

At the end they do relate There's no murders or anything She's listening to podcasts And her parents are like Oh no no Sorry sorry Sorry sorry It's pretty shit and basic

It's not challenging to it It's literally designed It feels like You know the way to make Like really food For old people to swallow very easily Yeah It felt like that.

Just like nice mushy paste. Now that you have to say that I'm just sitting here going, I must be like, there must be some movie in the last three or three years that I just thought was brilliant on that. That is terrible, isn't it? It's hard, though. In 94, it felt like everything. I was thinking about like 2007, eight,

you got like Derby Blood and No Code for Your Old Men. Even Tropic Thunder. Like, you get these really fun movies. Like, I love going to cinema. This is great. Well, like, Google that. Best movies in the last five years. I guarantee you you want to get like fucking Ant-Man shit.

It's going to be like stuff like, that thing. One best picture there recently. Who knows? There's no way to find out. I can't even

remember. Yeah, no one knows. I feel like there's definitely some, there's one that, and people are listening this like, it's this.

It was everything everywhere at once. I'm on a, I'm on a movie Facebook page and every now and again, people put up something about films

and someone will go, who played the part or whatever? Yeah. Their question. I'm always tempted to just come up going, yeah, I'd like to know

too. If only there was some sort of a device where you can find this out. Well, banshees have been a share I take it back there It's a rare breeze

Exactly, yeah Yeah, yeah, yeah But you've been flying the flag For Marvel for a long time, Brian Look at me Did you see Power of the Dog? I like Power to Dog But I wouldn't go back and watch it again

I wouldn't Top Gun Maverick I would rank over that now I like that I've actually seen that twice So that's one I haven't but I've heard it's good 1917 I've seen that twice

That's brilliant Yeah, I liked it You hated it though didn't you? I didn't actually enjoy it I was the one I enjoyed it a lot I was the wet blanket I much preferred it to Duncirk

I had a real problem with Dunkirk Duncirk annoyed me I was hyped up a lot for Dunkirk Yes Yes But I was Dunkirk was really hyped up

And in the end it was just Yeah I know Christopher Nolan He's really You've been rubbing me The wrong way In the last few years You know fucking

I don't know He's pushing your buttons Yeah But I tell you what I'm Very excited for Fucking Killers of the Flower Moon Flowers of the Killer Moon

Oh, the new Scorsese Yeah, man, it looks Like the trailer came out and Jesus, it's the only thing keeping me going That's the only reason I got out of bed this morning It really is, that's a sad thing

And like, like, the sad thing as well It's like, it's not like it's going to be like 10 more Scorsese food movies And it's like, enjoy it when you can. But like there was, it just got screened at cans there People are saying DiCaprio gives the best performance of his career

hands down And Lily Gladstone as well Is that the, The Native American Yeah, hey yo And that's Robert De Niro And Yeah, I'm looking forward to that now

It's good to see an actual master Yeah, no, it's good And that he's taking his time And it was a pet project of his three years Day I watched actually That I genuinely loved I never told you about this, zero fucks given Zero Fox Given

Yeah, a great little movie I believe it's French or something Okay It was shot during COVID anyway So they're all wearing masks And many scenes in it Very very good It's about this woman who

Her mother dies In mysterious circumstances Maybe she was a bit sad so then like she decides become a flight attendant and it's a very like slice of life movie where she goes around

turns to be a flight attendant meets a guy doesn't really work out another guy has to deal with like really boring stuff in the insurance company where it turns out

like basically our mother just drove into a wall you know you have to deal with that whole thing there and that's just kind of sad obviously like you know his wife is dead

right and there's no big drama at all there's no big moment of like oh my God they kidnapped the president his daughter like nothing like that and it's just at the end

she's kind of grown up a little bit and that's basically she goes to a concert and she kind of smiles that's it and the older I get the more I kind of want those types of movies and less of the formulaic stuff where it's like you know the girl is sad because she can't play

basketball at the end she can just give me Glenn Gary Glenn Ross a bunch of sad white men whose lives are falling apart and it's all set in one room you know that's what I want But that's why I like Forrest Gump. I like happy endings.

I hate if you watch a movie and there's a terrible ending. Like that... This is the thematic difference when you... Did you like that thing that Casey Affleck was in and... Manchester by the C. Did you like that movie? Oh, yeah.

Ah, man, that was two hours in my life. I mean James watched a bit where he tries to kill him. So the irony of that is I'm working for the Fire Brigade as a paramedic and I watched that in the station in about three sittings as I went out on did calls. My life is surrounded by people in misery And then I'm watching that fucking film Well that's the thing

You have like a job where it's like You encounter some real world horrific stuff We're both man children Who are completely like coddled And like insulated from the real world So I'll be like Yeah I actually like really dark gritty movies Yeah exactly

So my big hardship is in the recast Captain America Or like you know Didn't give Andrew Garfield No screen time in the new Spider-Man movie that's my kind of harshness yeah yeah whereas like it's perfectly understandable but i think i'm you know guilty of it as well in the rare times where i'm not feeling the best you know because usually i'm just winning all the time but you know at times when i'm not feeling great i'll

just stick on like an adam sandler movie and just veg art you know that's the thing i i in my mind i always picture that there's movies that are like that that you leave your brain at the door like adam sandler what you're going to have a laugh yes oh yeah for movies and then you have like when we spoke about taking earlier on again that's just action I don't have to yeah exactly the plot is basically all

he was a Navy SEAL and now he's coming back or whatever you know he's killing foreigners and I'm the good time yeah exactly and then you have like oh right so the Irish man

I'm gonna have to sit down and watch this or right right yeah yeah yeah so that's when I want to watch a decent movie or whatever but uh but Forrest Gump I think is just that's a feel good

you know there's a bit there's loads of scenes in it like there's lots of scenes that you can remember I know there's loads of scenes you can remember in Pulp Fiction as well Yeah, Forrest Gump, but that's thing It's a happy, feel good movie But it is done well, it's executed well

Again, I was kind of Not even that I'm taken back, I still I stand by my criticism of it But I want more to the bait here, guys Okay, well come here, can I give you loads of I've looked these up, I want to throw them out Forest Gump met 678 million at the box office And Pulp Fiction met 230 million

Which is about a third of that But the budget of Pulp Fiction was only 8 million. What was the budget? I don't know, but I think people felt well that balanced it up. Obviously, it was going to be more expensive. But they were on about, people always on about

Pulp Fiction losing or Forest Cump. Yeah, Pulp Fiction Losing out of Forrest Gump. Saving Private Ryan lost out to Shakespeare in love. Yeah, that's, I mean, that's, that was a Faustian pact, you know. Weinstein did a deal with the devil. He did the worst thing he ever did. Man, it's because of him that we all know the name,

Gwyneth Paltrow. So he deserves what's, he deserves getting raped in prison. Sorry, keeping this PC. This is for the kids, right? There's going to be like an edit going, we just cut out something that James was there.

I'm a picture to you with like socky and on the dead, you know. Farago lost out to the English patients. Oh, no, that's a disgrace. Yeah. And so, and there's loads of other ones. I mean, best picture, it is usually a controversial, like, thing.

Like, almost immediately afterwards. Like, when code, one. Like the next day people are like why the fuck did that win? Yeah. Yeah. All these ones that win are forgotten about very, very quickly. I mean, it's all very political. They played the game. They made the right moves. And the other

thing was that it was supposedly pro-American. You know, which one? Forrest Gumpet. They kind of they kind of washed over a lot of the kind of stuff. Yeah, like racism and war and all that stuff. They really do. Yeah, but it wouldn't have really fit it in with the story.

no of course yeah again but that's why that's for the cynics like me come in and say oh the military industrial complex I'm afraid to ask you this now but how many times do you think the N word was said in full fiction? Oh not enough how many times they said it in Forest Gump

every time they cut instead of saying cut Spielberg just yelled the N word so that was the thing the thing was that it was 110 times that's a lot and the heroin overdose

like the leading lady in a movie had a heroin overdose again like it's very controversial for the time you know it's like that's why it changed the game like a big mainstream movie where you see like the main it girl doing heroin and OD and dying and

sorry it's that bad that's good for me that makes it better forrest Gumpton do that even in Vietnam while the heroin going around but I was listening to a podcast about The Sopranos remember in the fifth episode I think it was Tony

the main character kills it yeah that was like really revolutionary and they were based the likes of how things had changed since Pulp Fiction in movies and this was the first time that it was actually going to happen on a TV show so you know that there was

going to be an anti-hero or not so much an anti-hero but a hero that just or your main character was not just going to be a clean polish kind of guy the thing why Pulp Fiction and the night in general were so kind of revolutionary like the example being Uma Thurman being a heroin addict

and OD and because when you you have to look at it not just from the film but from like you know her agent going this will be terrible for your image you can't be on screen doing heroin because the 90s I mean you know when you're coming off like the Hayes code and stuff like on the 50s

where it's like you can't do X, Y and Z like incrementally 60s 70s 80s that all got chipped away and then the 90s sort of brought this new kind of fuck you balls to the wall it's hip and cool to do heroin and say the N word it's what all the kids are doing

so let's get with it you know and in true romance I remember hearing that Tom Seismore was asked to to do a particular part which involved him beating up he was the bad guy who was going to beat up Patricia Arquette and he wouldn't do it because he's gone no way people just remember me for that but I'm in a play with a guy

James Gandalfini's his name he's very good he'll do it Oh, wow. And that's how Tom Seismore is like, this might hurt my image. Yeah, that's the point. So he's on, and Tom Seismore was on with a, so he ends up being a cop with,

Sean Penn's brother, what's his name? Chris Penn. And obviously the two of them have such a... Yeah, they have a great chemistry. I fucking loved Tom Seismore and Chris Ben, great character actors.

But obviously, that's scene with Gandalfini and true romance is just fucking amazing, you know? That was the thing, like you wouldn't do that today, but back then, Salfini was like, that was one of his first big roles. I mean, that's what got him with Sopranos.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So thank you, Tom Seismore for all that you've done for us. For being worrying. R-I-P. Come here, I've written loads of stuff down here. It's kind of, this isn't mine, but I just thought it was nice. One was, uh, it's a box of chocolates versus a glowing suitcase. Yes, true.

Brian, Brian, you're not impressed. No, I get, yeah. Uh, can I, let me ask you something then, Paul. Yeah. Um, you know, about the whole, the casting thing, how they're thinking a lot of A lot of people who are named for this, you know, not just like Tom Hanks, thinking like Bill Murray, Michael Keaton, basically any big named actor time was considered.

Yeah. If you had to pick one, who are you going for? Kilmer, Murray. Oh, I can't see it. I could probably see Bill Murray doing it, but I just think Tom Hanks was brilliant. See, the thing is it's such a kind of wholesome movie that I think Bill Murray, especially, would bring this kind of, like, snidey,

and maybe it too cool. sarcasm is like oh oh yeah box of chocolates oh yeah i'll run over there sure yeah okay but you know you know those kind of bits of movies where that you'll always always always remember them you can look them up on youtube and they're the probably the part of the movie that you'll just always bring away with you yeah like leonisin on the phone yeah yes yeah yeah yeah the memeable kind of parts uh good fellas um how am i funny you know that kind of thing yeah yeah um tom hanks talking to the grave in Forest Cump. Do you remember that in Forest Cump?

Jenny's grave or the mother's grave or who's grave? It's just at the very end, it's towards the end of Jenny's grave at the end. Spoiler alert there, by the way. I seem to have seen it. Jenny gets what's common door. Yeah, the end. There was loads of stuff saying. There was loads of

speculation as to whether it was AIDS as well and it seems it wasn't that there came out there recently that it was some sort of hepatitis she died of in the book that it was based on. Okay. Well, I'm sure that's the vague on purpose, so you assume it's... Yeah, yeah, because AIDS was big at the time or whatever, but... Yeah.

I mean, that's, yeah, because she gets, she, like, start doing coke with a bunch of Wall Street dudes and they pass around like a, you know, like a bong at a grateful dead hunter. That's where you go, yeah. Camero, I can't do this podcast without telling you this. We went to, I used to be the secretary, the Sports and Social Club of Ireland, you know, with the Farbygate. Oh, nice. And we were organising it for the World Police and Fire Games was going to be on in New York. And we taught a brilliant place to go because it moves around everywhere.

It goes to China. Yeah. What is that really? The World Pleas and Fire Games is that after the Olympics and the special Olympics is the biggest sporting event. Because there's like there could be between 100 and 150,000 people who show up to do it. You know, it's a really big deal. And what kind of sport? Everything.

They do everything. Like the Olympics, there's like every sport. So if you're a firefighter or police or whatever you can. And lads are fairly handy at it. And it's a big accomplishment. Wow. That's cool. So it was going to be on in New York, and we were heading over and everything was grand.

We were heading over on Thursday. It was going to start on a Friday and it was going to run for a week. But there was a hurricane supposed to be hitting. Right. What year are we talking? Oh, I think it was 2004 or 2006 or something like that. And Mayor Giuliana, Giuliani or whatever, decided to close the whole place down. Oh, what the full?

And it seems if you close down the subway, it seems if you close down the subway, the whole of Manhattan just depends on it. Yeah, yeah. Everything was closed. so when we got over we were there on the Thursday night I went to this big meeting because I was one of the organisers and they said look there's no problem

everything's close because of the hurricane but we're going to have everything back on the Monday and I remember putting my hand up going there's no problem I have the Irish team over here for the whole weekend and the only thing open in Manhattan is Pups. You've got to be fucking joking and they were allowed so

one of the guys with the football team because they were the youngest kind of you know what they were all going to go nuts like yeah yeah he was saying we got to keep these out and I'm not going to bring them to training and I was thinking if we did a late dinner someplace will you go get book us in there's 40 of us like right right so the guy from the athletics came with me and we're looking for this place and we went to bubba gum shrimp we went to round a couple of restaurants there's loads of them and they were like no we've no staff yeah yeah are they just had clothes for the weekend or whatever bubble gum shrimp was open and it's on

time square and went down and said hey how you do and speak to the manager we're looking about getting a book and uh these two managers came down the stairs because upstairs upstairs was the restaurant and they came down to the bottom stairs to us and they said hey how you're looking to how many you look in and i said well i've 40 how many of you got you got 22 to 60 oh no way he goes we were just we couldn't we couldn't take that yeah yeah the hurricane has had a terrible effect on business right and i said yeah of course it did because lieutenant dang and forest were the only boat left and the guy was with me started laughing and the two them just stared at me yeah yeah and i was so tempted to just go surely that was the first question in the

fucking interview to get a job and Bubba gums shrimp. Did you see the movie? Why do you know? I bet you're all right. Yeah, I've seen it. Yeah. Yeah. They said the N word a bunch of times. It's great. Yeah. Cheeseburgers. Yeah. Fantastic. Funny how. you have seen it yeah

I always remember about that thing as well at that on the cost they started on a Monday and they were running so many races

they didn't have enough officials then to right right right yeah so the marathon that they ran was it ran

to a certain point did a big circle back to that point and then went on another bit so I think the circle was like six or seven miles

yeah and then went on a bit so it went well for the first couple of hundred people because they were like that's that way go that way

and go that way follow the arrows or whatever and then it just there was a bit of a cock up and a load of people just ran straight through didn't do the circle oh fuck right so that evening when I went down to the big meetings they were all shouting and bawling everything going on

they were giving us think and one of the guys stood up and goes look I know there's a problem with the maritin today but we can't tell who did the full marathon and who did the yeah yeah and then this guy popped up and he goes the guy who won is from Belgium he's 55 years of age and he's after knocking

seven minutes off the world record I think we and I always thought afterwards if that was the Irish we'd have gone so and yeah so he had his Wheatabics

what the fuck are you trying to say like yeah notions he had the right mental attitude you know but anyway Forrest Gump

I wrote down the best scenes what scenes do you remember for Forrest Gump okay so I'm team Pul fiction here I don't remember

I'm going to give you my favorite line sorry I had a fight in the middle of your Black Panther Party we've all been there I've only watched it maybe once or twice

so like it's kind of I can't even really like what are some scenes I remember obviously the speech in Washington is always a big one where he runs through the water then and Jenny

oh yeah that's a big memorable did you like the use of archive footage that was pretty revolutionary now at the time it was and even still like I watched it recently

when he's talking to John Lennon you know what it's fake, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Because Johnlin isn't real. But it looks pretty convincing, though. Yeah, yeah.

You're talking about raccoons? I remember watching it, and that didn't take me out of it. You know, like, for example, Sopranos, there's, with a C.J. I in the mother's head, and it just looks terrible. Yeah. Whereas, like, it doesn't take you out of it in Forrest Gomp, so it is well done. So you commend them for that. That was gas to the Sopranos.

The CGI was just a fucking horrendous looking, yeah. Now, Zemechis is, he's known for being like, Like, he tries to push boundaries, okay, in special effects. And he likes to always try and do the next big thing. So, with Forrest Gump, he succeeded. Yeah. But after that, he kind of, um, have you looked up to Zemeckas' filmography? He has had dog shit, dog shit and dog shit.

He's had a fair bit already. And he's always trying to do, like, you know, he bites off board he can chew. Yeah. I'm going to make the polar express and they won't, they look like humans. Right. And they don't. They don't. They don't.

Unnerving. Yeah. He got really big into the CGI for a long time, doing lots of CGI. None of them look good. He's Spielberg's protege, you know, like that. And Spielberg handed him to Oscar. Oh, that's nice. Spielberg had won it the year before.

Right. So, wait, Cemeckis, did Cemeckis, did he, like, what was he doing in Forrest Comp? He directed it. Directed it. What did Spielberg do? Nothing. Nothing. He's fucking lazy bastardsers.

Wait, so why is it always, Spielberg gets the, wait, I always thought Spielberg directed Forrest Com? No, Robert Semechus. So Spielberg is nothing to do with Forest Combeck. He's probably just hanging out You're like, oh, I like it now Well, I feel like an idiot You're like hanging out some opium dem somewhere

Yeah, yeah Best scenes of Paul fiction That's weird, Jesus Christ What a, oh my God Everything's changed Paul, get him out Yeah, I don't deserve to be here I feel like an idiot

I'm just like, when you're talking, Paul, I'm going very quickly out of my own interest Look up what Zemecas has done Like the last decade Yeah, I guarantee none of it has got over like 50% of Rottenmeos I'm trying to think there is another big Zemechus movie

Well, he's done quite a few the future, right? Well, back to the future, yeah, yeah, that's what I'm trying to do this one. Redeemed myself. At the start, I was like, yes, well, of course, the three-act structure, and I'm fucking sitting here thinking Spielberg, director of Farr's Com. So, for example, I'm going to a fucking Farras Cup myself, Jesus Christ. Over a run.

I can't even do that. So, for example, he also did who framed Roger Rabbit. And that's great. Then that's a big kind of example. At the time, that was huge. Yeah, it's very revolutionary as well. It's fantastic. The live action and all the work you did for that.

You want to fuck a cartoon? not until that movie came along. So then he did movies like, you know, Bay Wolf. That was fucking terrible. Yeah, I never saw. Welcome to Marwan, The Witches and Pinocchio.

He did Pinocchio this year. Oh, what? Live action Pinocchio. I've actually seen that. With Tom Hanks. Yeah. Exactly, yeah. So it's not, he hasn't come into glory.

And he did Back to the Future and what else is, right? Castaway. Those are his three big movies. Oh, castaway. Yeah, yeah. I never actually seen Castaway. Well, I wasn't going to say it, because you've said it,

I haven't seen it either. Yeah, well, there you go on. Tell us all about Castaway. He's cast away. It's a volleyball and these names are. You fuck the volleyball. You fuck it. He does fuck it, James.

Sweet. Castaway was just a movie that got past me that time. And I just haven't got back to it. There was another one I saw a clip from recently. And it's Clint Eastwood and it's about baseball movie. And it was only about 10 years ago, less than 10 years ago. Oh. And I just saw that.

And I was like, oh, I have to get that. You beat me there. I'm not too sure. There's kind of a new movie now with Willem Defoe called Inside, and it's basically castaway, but he's trapped inside this very, like, very high tech, like, expensive, like apartment, luxury apartment in New York. So it's all like, he's basically just trapped in there. He's like an art thief.

He gets trapped in this building, and it's a beautiful, but, like, there's no food in it. So he's basically stuck, and he can't, like, he has to go into survival mode, but he's in, so it's kind of like, yeah, basically. take castaway but instead of an island he's like in the upper west side of Manhattan but apparently it's good

like kind of it's that going to be like as in movie in the cinema or just no I think it's kind of Netflix thing or something yeah you know how like movies come out they don't get a huge

theatrical release well nowadays movies just get less and less theatrical release yeah exactly the while they were like in Carlo like in Carole cinema

they might show you know the kind of weird little indie Corn Brothers movie you know like a fucking Hill Caesar that's not getting

released no you kind of go go to the lighthouse you know yeah yeah even Cineworld they don't really show even the whale it's hard to see the whale yeah yeah exactly that's another film I haven't seen I heard you a review of it but uh I loved your review on it that it was like he had a system of pulleys like Wallace and Grammet yeah do do do do do do do D M cheese just Wallace and a rascal scooter grills cheese and crackers glom it his final words is Wednesday

see hale The best scenes of Pulp Fiction Honey Bunny at the start I remember that's just going Oh my God My favorite scene Is that where the principal is awesome No, there's Pulpiction

Oh right sorry I'm thinking of the principal Yeah You know the principal in Forrest Gump And he fucks Sally Field That's the best part That's brilliant Your mama just

What's your mama Really cares for your school And boy Man I want to be that The Sleasy is pulling up Your fly Bein like Go work kid you

right this little retards in school now wow Jesus and the special Olympics were born from that one act of solicitation Ezekiel 2517 I get to see one poll don't worry Ezekiel 2517 Yes

Again something I found out recently That isn't Ezekiel 2570s No It's a film called The Bodyguard Your Man Sonny Chiba who Quit in Turrentine as well So that was

martial arts guy. They did a version of it and he took that version. Yeah. So it's not actually the... Well, one thing about Tarantino obviously, he's very... You know, he says it's an homage and a reference, but he's quite derivative. You know, he'll... Like, Resort Dogs in particular, there's... I was thinking about this.

He's taken lines and ideas and everything and piled them all together and met his own movies and he... That's kind of like what Brendan O'Carroll does with Mrs. Brown's He's... If only he has to say... number.

Is the Quentin Tardino of Compton. Dead Mammy story. Yeah. So you heard it here first. Brendan O'Carre likes to get foot jobs. That's what we're saying. He's on Coke getting foot, fucks.

Mrs. Brown loves feet. Jack Rabbit Slims, the dance scene was, again, it's very good obviously that's kind of a reference to that French film, a band apart. There's a scene in a French film like from the 60s.

And they dance in a cafe And it was kind of part of that New Wave French Nouveau Cinema Would you recommend that James? I mean it's interesting It's what do you call him Jean-Luc

No Godard is it Godard, yeah No He did 400 blows as well And watch some of those Those New Wave French films I'm mixing them up Yeah

A lot of those new age French films Like he's a burglar who smokes And he slaps a woman Yeah And then he's the hero Again It was just kind of concerned consider revolutionary for the time.

It's hard to kind of go back and be objective unless you're a coked-up autistic like Tarantan who's like, it's incredible, man. It's incredible. Look at that. He's French, smoking a cigarette. It's so cool. And so he'll reference shit like that. But then Resort Dogs in particular was incredibly derivative of

a film from China called City of Fire. I've heard of that, yeah. It's not just, you know, he takes a little bit here and there. It's basically the exact same film. He's like Kanye. He takes bits of pieces. He doesn't like the Jews either. Harvey, he hogged all the pussy, man.

There's actually way more, because there's flight release, there's the adrenaline shot. There's the pawn shop. Yes. Because that's the part that Sharon remember. That's the only part, she was like, that's the most maddest thing. I mean, yeah, Fing Rames getting ass raped

to a swinging jazz tune. When they shot Marvin in the face, and Mr. Wolf had to come and sort of it out. Yeah, then Mr. Wattel. The Bad Motherfucker Wallet. It's just such a fun movie. You can just re-watch it so many times and you enjoy it. You're not convinced me, Paul, that Forrest Gump is better.

Oh, I know. I'll just say, I know, but my favorite then is Captain Coons and the Gold Watch. Yes, with Christopher Walken. Yeah, and then he did, Christopher Walken then was involved with the, with the other great speech and true romance. True Romance, yeah, with Dennis Hopper. Dennis Hopper, that's great. It's great. Tarantino really helps his sizzle.

well again like all of his work like all of his work but particularly his early work like he was so like he was very liberal with the use of the n-word even with you're really harping on this n-word but here's saying white actors but spike lee from the early 90s right up until now anytime a new tarantino film comes out spike lee will kind of do a new interview saying tarantino you know he's a racist he's always saying the n-word and stuff and samuel jackson then will always defend him that he grew up in a black neighborhood Spike Lee is awful by the way He had some good stuff early on

Yeah in the 90s I love the phone Spike he's got so... Oh what I'm sorry What's the problem? What's the problem? Come here can I give you the movies First time I looked at it You've been buried in yours you could

I'm realised that I have more notes here About Pul fiction than I do Forest Gump even though America That's your subconscious telling you The films that were inspired by it Things to do in Denver when you're dead. Yes.

Go two days in the valley, get sharty, gross point blank, lucky number 11. I mean, Bull Dock Saints, very bad things. Lockstock is two smoking barrels.

Yeah. No, definitely. Yeah, yeah, you can see its footprint, you know, in all of those.

And all those, like in the last, in the five or six years afterwards, everything was. There was a lot of, there's a lot of really bad carbon copies want to be trying to be Pulp Fiction. Then there are films that kind of went their own way.

And like, lockstock two soaking barrels. you know, they lean into the British London style. Intermission is a lot of fun as well. Yeah. It's Dublin. In another way you could say that that's a good thing about Forest Gumpa was so original that no one could... There's no copy

of Forest Gumpa, is it? That's true, you're right. You're right, it would be too obvious, you know? You can copy a style of Pulfiction. Yeah, because it's gangsters and drugs and guns. There's a Bollywood version of it, and the poster and all is just the same. Oh, yes. I bet you have a lot of fun with that. It's called something like the simple man

or something like. I like those in movies. movies where it's just like man who is stupid foolish man bring shame on family yeah uh pull fiction would probably be two men in black suits shoot lots of people the shooting men who talk about burgers

have you read the sequel to the forest gum no there was talk about making it or whatever was it was published and they were on the way to making a sequel and the 9-11 happened then they kind of were like we can't you know That's what I like by you, Brian, you see the positive and everything. The silver lining is like, hey, at least we didn't get Forest Gulf too, you know.

RIP, never forget, but, you know, hey. The sequel sounds a bit mad, by the way, like the book version. Like, they make a movie out of his life, so he meets Tom Hanks. Oh, right. And I don't think he has tanked to the Oscars, which is going to call it back to the writer. Oh, wow. And I think he goes to Desert Storm and has lots of wacky adventure. he like um he accidentally shoots down a helicopter there's a lot of

wacky funny things was there an oklahoma city bombing he does meet timidy mcvay yeah no way you got some good points timothy mcfay the zionist occupied government needs to be stopped they are gonna take our guns he literally does i think that was another reason so there's a whole thing where he meets timony mcvay and leads to the like a terrorist attack

all right in a funny way and the movie like when there's taking and doing the movie 9-11 just happened terrorism now isn't chic it's not hot it's not sexy you know it's kind of hot it's not

it's kind of bad vibes you know it's 9-11 didn't pass the vibe check I think we can all agree there that's a red flag if he likes 9-11 girls that's a red flag

he likes 9-11 and fight club he's a Nazi how long have we been going oh I think um we have time should be on dashed time is on that 57 minutes so you're in around the order

so I'm gonna have to edit out about 20 minutes there anyway yeah I'm sorry yeah I'm only joking I'm only joking I still don't know where I'm going with this podcast only about 10 minutes yeah yeah I mean

we'll iron and out all the kind of like the problem areas so this is going to be starring Paul and Brian with a cameo from Kat I was thinking you know the way to do on podcast and there's like that music

just goes shh. Yes. You know and it just goes on to the next bit. Yeah. I need to get one of them. Just like a yeah, like a... I hate that. Audio star white. I hate all this stuff. I also hate now, we're going off in the little tantrums

now, but they put in like those ads in the podcast now, but they're not what's the word like they're not intention, they're not the rest of the word. I'm getting too angry now. Go on. They disinterrupt mid sentence. Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's actually the platform like

spot of the word. I will play an ad. It's not like an ad. Oh, it's not actually on the thing. That is really annoying. It's happening on YouTube as well. Like halfway through a video, you know, how many? You did a podcast and somebody mentioned someone and then you went, okay, well, we're not going.

And then there was a total gap and then you came back. So anyway, you come back and I normally cut it where it's a smooth transition. I deliberately did that. And then it was totally, and I was like, I was listening to the car. No, no. Oh, I didn't listen. I remember a message you were going, is the full thing they were going to be up on Patreon? And you were like, no, I'm not going to put it up.

I was like, I knew what you were talking about. I was like, I want to hear that. That wasn't even like a real funny thing. It was just basically me being like, oh, I hope he gets murdered. Yeah, no, that's what I wanted to hear. But that was it. There was nothing else to it.

Yeah, yeah. Too juicy. And I was like, oh, sometimes, I mean, Brian, he makes the decisions for both of us, you know. It's like, I wouldn't, I don't know what to do. He's like, no worry, pet. Don't worry your little head about it. There's nothing worse when you know what's going on.

You're kind of, oh, I'm missing out. That was real fomo for me now, I thought you. Yeah, yeah. I was like, I'm paying for Patreon. I should be able to hear you giving out about people. Just call us up and we'll be like, yeah, he's a cunt, fuck him. Again, got to cut that on. Ah, geez.

Yeah, okay. I mean, I'm allowed to swear, aren't I? So I think, I was going, oh, yeah, I was going to say. If you were going to wrap it up, I would say that, uh, my point is that they're both great movies and that if you haven't seen any of them, you should see the two of them. But I don't think there's very few people on the planet who haven't seen both of them. I think they're very, very mainstream movies. But here's the thing.

I think Pulp Fiction. maybe has a little more staying power with modern audiences. I don't know if as many people have seen Forest Gump. I look forward to my little guy is seven

he's eight soon but I wait till he's about 11 or 12 I want to show him that Forest Gump yeah yeah yeah maybe a little bit longer when he's about when he's about 35

I'll show him Paul Fission I think to be honestly you know it's an indictment on our culture not you Paul but I think we live

in a very cynical world right now I think the magic of Forrest Gump is too easy to go on Twitter now and be like, um, actually no. Forest gum, forest dump.

Yeah, yeah. And then just move on with their lives. Whereas I think the cynics can appreciate a little bit like, I mean, is you a gimp in forest gum? I know like, like, especially the kids these days, this generation, this euphoria generation. They're all little perverts and weirdos.

Yeah, they've all got a gimp in a box in their shed, you know, every one of them. Only the cool ones have a retard in the shed. Ah, please. gosh darn it kids really you know it's a sickness really isn't it I can't help myself

surely there is some condition you know threats being funny yeah a lot of you know a lot of modern audiences don't like that you know when you be funny

it's like no he's not actually talking about you know politics anyway sorry yeah yeah sorry did you do to come up with this thing in the international you have to come up with your things on the spot

that actually went very well that was like one of the best gigs I'd ever know it all went bad real but afterwards for anyone that doesn't know there's a comedy club called the International

on Monday nights they've introduced this new show where the audience write down suggestions yeah choosing nice yeah so that went well for you yeah so you get up

you do a few minutes and then you know like so it'll all make or break now the crowd were very nice and everybody did well but so they liked my actual material and then I got up and I was just kind of

I didn't do I was just kind of riffing a couple of one-liners as soon as I said something horrible and offensive I was like next but they were they're up for it and then a couple of young men bought me a lot of drinks and I heard of it for being a fat goofball and then I went home sad

and drug it was a good night it was good night yeah and the glamorous and you weren't feeling well and Brian went down the road and waited for you yes that's right what I was vomiting. That's kind of the opposite of what I do

for a living. So let's let's wrap up there. Well, your final thoughts then, James. Again, I mean, Gump versus...

Obviously, I much prefer Pulp Fiction, but I don't know how much... No, I don't think we should do it prefer. I think we just leave it at that we're both in agreement, we're all in agreement

that they're two good movies. Obviously, I mean, I thought Spielberg directed Forrest Gump, so I'm obviously... Spielberg directed Pulpiction. Yeah, listen, thanks a million

guys for coming on and thanks for having us thanks for having a great part Brian and James fuck each other Brian and James fuck each other The podcast is Brian James As you mentioned Fuck each other Yes

That's why you've never seen it promoted anywhere I would say that's not true I would say now I've powered a whole billboard So I would say It might be fun Paul saying that

If we release this in our feed as well Yeah absolutely So if you are listening to us on Paul's feed Congratulations This is a good podcast Listen to more Listen to one of the Brian James feed pop on over to

tell the podcast it's called well yeah and we'll share it and all that it's kind of a big incestuous kind of orgy going on like that

we do like those all those Instagram stars where they all comment to each other and go oh my God that's the most amazing joke I've ever heard and then they comment

on the other go oh my God you're such a brave queen slave that's fantastic that's the most hilarious thing I ever heard

and I've never heard of the original comic from the 80s who come out with that first Yeah, yeah. So we'll do that. There's literally too much positivity.

That's not me being joking. Like, the internet, like, people say, it's too negative. It's bad. It's like, well, that's probably healthy in a way. It's healthier than it's like nonstop, like, Slay Queen, Slay Queen, oh, you got drunk and crash into a creche. Sleigh Queen, don't listen to those people saying it's bad. The haters trying to bring you down.

You're a boss bitch. Yeah. And on that note, on that boss bitch note, thanks very much, guys. Brian and James for being on the podcast. Thank you. Thank you for having us. All right. Do we turn off?