Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 213 : The Killer Queen
Episode Date: December 3, 2023The ghost of Diana hangs with the BJ boys......
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All right.
All right, we're going again, guys.
We're back recording a free episode right now.
We're going to talk about the Crown and the Killer.
Awesome.
Two pieces of media that I enjoyed a lot.
Okay.
The Crown I enjoyed, people are slagging it off.
The Crown?
They're slagging it.
Saying what?
On the British tabloids, yeah.
That is dog shit.
That's for idiots.
Drek, they call it, yeah.
Distasteful, it says, well.
Oh, probably because she's only after popping her clogs.
The old bent dives, didn't she?
Well, they don't say that in the show, but yeah,
they wouldn't like, you know, they wouldn't like you either.
They don't like, don't like the crown, James Cadden.
They don't like art.
And also, I'm drinking...
Oh, smelly bint pops your clothes and a sands of facking nuns.
What's wrong with her eyes?
I'm laughing at it, really?
And also, I bought an iron brew here.
It's iron brew extra.
What's extra about this?
I don't know, I'm going to find out.
I can barely open it.
Look at me weakly, kind of like, ugh.
My hands are too slippy.
Yeah.
I'm going to drink it now
So we can be silent while I drink it
Go, go
Come on, swallow it, you little whore
Ooh, I like it
Is it different?
It's a little bit stronger
It's a little bit almost extra
It's a little bit strong
Oh, that's separate the men from the boys
I get a headache straight away
The feet of position
It's lying down and like, oh, James
I put you in a cold shower
get some narca and quick
he's O-Ding
Oh god
So I'll talk about I think the crown first
Okay
So like I said
This season
I'm a big fan the crown
Yes
And I feel like
The closer gets to the present
The kind of less interest I am in it
To be honest with you yeah
Because you know more about it
Yeah and also it just gets a bit sillier
There's a bit more
Like in the earlier seasons
There's a bit more prestige and mystique
And it's like the past
You're like learning stuff
Where the more modern day stuff
Yeah, you're right
I do know a lot of this
I'm a bit of a royal head
Like I do like the lore
What do they call those
Royal? Like that's not what it's called
Pedophiles, I think
Oh right, yes
But there is like royal fans
Like you go really into it right there
And I'm a little bit like that
Anglo files
Anglophiles
That's it
That's the people who know
I know it was close to pedophile
There is like a very weird
kind of subsection
In America especially
And also other places
America I know is it right
there's people who
they really love British culture
and they tried like embrace
down like no no I'm not just
I'm not none
sure I'm from Boston
yes but I'm not like my parents
so they like what
American sports no thank you
are like the Premier League
and I love
are you being served
but they always like put
America
they always put English culture
on a pedestal
it'll watch something like
oh my God
the writing on this
you could
you couldn't do that on American television
they wouldn't allow it
it's so cerebral intellectual
like in the in-betweeners
when Jay talks about clunge
and calls his mates
a bunch of puffs
oh it's just ever so witty
and delightful
just they hear the British accent
and they get mesmerized into thinking
it's you know
culture and high art
like there is people in America
who walk around like basically dressed up
like they're in Tatsur's Britain
still you know
and they have Keynes
and stuff and like, oh yes, what
what indeed, I am from Minnesota
I am.
I'm handkerchiefs and pocket watches.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Just more stuff for the Puerto Ricans
and take off your lifeless corpse,
you fucking frub.
Well, these like that as well.
Ironically, that's closer to real British
ideology than they can imagine.
But, uh...
And also, his other place as well, like, you know,
in India, like, there's a lot of people like really
embraced the
English way
and they're almost like
you know
the worst thing
we ever did
was leave it
you know
like
yeah
it's almost like
they're like
Northern Ireland
they love
yeah
like the Unionists
in Northern Ireland
but they're in like
Pakistan
being colonised
being colonised
the best thing
never happened
to me
I'll tell you that now
yeah
but so anyway
the crowd
we love the television
show
give your head
peace
with Uncle Andy
and Da
that is very good
yes
yeah
So, my point is I like the crown, okay?
Yeah, I don't care what people say, all right?
Some people are real like, you watch the crown, ew, and they make fun of me and say, put your clothes back on.
You don't appreciate culture, you dumb bitch.
I hope they're teaching you better in this school.
That's all I can say.
Once you get to secondary school, you're really going to have to wise up.
See how I keep building on it, making you more and more.
I was trying to tell her about Princess Margaret
Yeah
But anyway, so Netflix is the only thing now
Where instead of just releasing all 10 episodes at once
Right
They're releasing it in chunks
Oh
So it's four episodes
And I think like, you know
Maybe three and four or something like that
I don't know how they're doing it
But it's four episodes for now, all right?
Any reason as to why?
I think what they should
Which is smart, like Netflix
Space out
You release it all at once
People like get sick of it like you know
It's like it's as
Netflix is a subscription model
Right? So wouldn't it make more sense
to release it in week to week kind of thing
than more people would want to subscribe
and keep subscribing?
Well, I don't know, maybe, but I don't know.
All your streaming services, no one else is doing
this dumping thing that Netflix do.
Which is like, here, take it.
Yeah, yeah, go on.
I bet the new stranger things will be done like this as well, you know?
Okay.
Like week to week, probably instead.
It just makes more sense financially.
And also, like...
So we could just see them getting older and older.
but also it's more like a better
streaming service, a streaming business.
So like, you release it in one
chunk, all right? Yeah.
Talk about it for the weekend, then move on to the next thing.
But now it can be more a water cooler thing.
People talk about it. It's harder
to promote the show as well, because you get like one weekend
for the stars come out and be like, oh, watch the Crown.
Yeah. And afterwards, like, oh, that's that thing
I saw. Yeah, half watched it, and shit.
Yeah, yeah. So I'm a point there, it's only four
episodes out. Right. But I've watched four episodes.
And you love that. You love it when
Master comes down and says
You're only allowed to watch this much
You're right, I only deserve the crumbs
No, I'm like the one who's like, you know we don't deserve
the crumbs, do we guys?
They all hate me
Maybe we should pay
More guys, right, for quality
Let's sing a song for Master
Drop trials, fellas
It's time to bend over and show Master
our appreciation
So I watched the four
episodes there
Like getting bummed, don't you?
That's you, that's he's.
Getting out something to shake.
You're not wrong.
Am I right?
You're not wrong.
So, we're going to start off with episode one.
Okay.
Episode one, it's set in like the 90s.
And this chunk episode is really about the
PR war between Charles and Diana.
Okay.
So they're split up.
Right.
Diana is her own thing.
And she's very sexy in the show, isn't she?
Too sexy one might say.
Well, that's also what the royal family worry
about because they think like well
you know she's not royal she's divorced
so British people don't care about
a sexy divorce woman do they
turns out they're wrong they actually quite like her
yeah and she's in the papers the whole time
and she's over there you know touching sick
kids like they're human yeah
the queen's like oh we just
can't compete with this so it turns out
land mines
but maybe I could touch the little children
no Andrew no thank you
it turns out landmines and bikinis
are actually pretty interesting
yeah yeah so
Real sex bomb.
Oh, yeah.
Huh?
Yeah, I get you.
You don't just...
All right.
Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all right.
The damage is done.
Let's just try and rebuild.
You know, sometimes I'm like, like, what do you want?
It goes, like, I'm only human, you know, and sometimes like, not you now.
It's a while...
Oh, not me?
Definitely not me.
There was a while I go is record a podcast to someone.
There was a while I was with someone, they told me a joke.
And I was like, yeah.
Yeah.
And they were like, oh, you hate it.
like, no, what, what do you want for me?
You know, sometimes I just hear something.
I'm not going to, like, give it my all, all the time.
Even just like a fake laugh?
That would be disrespectful.
Okay, to the art of comedy.
That is who I serve.
Yeah.
It's about the PR war between that.
So the press loves Diana.
Yeah.
And Prince Charles doesn't understand.
He's, what about Camilla?
Yeah.
He wants Camilla to be in the paper instead of Diana.
He wants people to focus on Camilla, his new wife.
It's probably because you're baron, isn't it?
That's why they're,
don't like you.
So he's trying to get them.
And I also think it's funny as well,
they have the cameramen following her around
and these press guys like,
Dejana, doiana, doiana.
But the show they're bad guys,
they're all Nordies.
Oh, really?
They're all Nordies.
They're all right.
Diana, show us.
Are we funny?
They're literally like that.
And she's got good relationship with them though.
She's like, okay, how about this boys?
You leave me and the kids a little one and I'll give you something nice.
Like, what do you mean?
And she's like, this.
And she gets up to a little turn around
in the bikini, like, oh, yeah,
or, what's it now?
Oh, jeez, now.
I almost feel bad,
planting the same text on your
cure, you fucking sexy
way of you, who are you?
I'm gonna give you me cocks
away I'm, all right?
Just pure Jim McDonald's, man,
you know?
So, like, she's got a good relationship
to the press and all that.
She knows how to work the room, you know?
Obviously, they're annoying as fuck, okay,
but she knows how to handle a little bit better,
like, then Charles
this is a PR team and they're like
well what about we have a nice dinner party
and we take pictures of that
and Camilla cutting a cake
the press will love that
and they don't
no one cares about Camilla at all
and we also
they really make
they emphasize a difference
so it's like Prince Charles
in a big castle you know
with mummy you know
the queen and the kids
and they're like we'll go hunting today
yes yes and then they're cut to like
Diana she's watching Jamongi
wearing a Duran Duran Duran t-shirt.
Okay.
They're loving Jumanji, by the way, yeah.
Who are?
Her whole team are watching it, you know.
She's got a whole press team, the kids
are there, you know.
Robin Williams?
Dobby Alfoyad.
Dodi Alfoyad.
He's loving it.
Yeah, to see Robin Williams
running around, you know,
they're proper knee slapping, you know.
They're having a great time, okay.
I like the David Allen Greer
playing Mr. Police Officer
man, but he very, he goes
Ah, no, here come
the tigers and lions, and they run
away, very fun. But at this
time, their relationship's a secret. That's not a very good
Diana impression, is it?
I need to work on that, I think.
This is
Prince Harry. Oh, hello,
place to you, and a thousand blessings
upon us on this beautiful
morning.
I have to say, I did,
weirdly enough, I found the
Al-Fiyadhad stuff more interested in
Diana stuff, be honest.
Okay. The Diana stuff is lots of shots of her looking sad and we're like, oh, she was the
people's princess. But with the Alphiad stuff, it's more interesting. He, he, this is a secret,
by the way. Okay. This relationship, all right? Right. And like, he, he was engaged.
Really?
To a sexy, not Kate Mara, but a Kate Mara type. Okay. Like a real like, oh my God,
why are you hanging out with Diana? Do you want a fuck her? No, no. I'm just on the boat with
her naked, relax, woman.
Oh my God, I can't
fucking believe it. On the papers
it says, you're banging her. I was like, oh, you know what the
papers are like, you know. And she's like, you know,
I'm on it. She's on a little boat at one stage.
Like, let me on the boat. He's like, no,
no.
This guy rules. He would just like it.
He's like the original Andrettead.
I'm here on my Bugatti with Princess
Diana, and I'm going to let her suck my
ball. And you just wait there because you are my
property, you dumb bitch. Look the American was like,
let me on. They won't let me on.
the nor is like,
ah,
you know what you mean.
Ah, that's it.
They love here.
Welcome to the party,
hey.
Hi.
And another thing
about this episode
is introduced to
Tony Blair
for the season.
Right, okay.
And it's Bertie Caraville.
Do you know Bertie Caraville?
Okay, he's a very good character actor.
He's been a lot of stuff.
Nothing too major that you'd know,
okay, but he's a good actor.
I like him.
He's Tony Blair.
And of course,
the big thing about this season is,
it's written by,
is it, Piers Morgan?
Or Peter Morgan.
That's it.
Peter Morgan.
Now, Peter Morgan is a very prolific, successful British writer.
So he is best known for doing stuff like Frost Nixon.
All right.
And the Damned United.
Have you ever seen that?
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Which is one of my favorite movies.
I love that movie.
And then the queen, the queen was his big one.
Right.
And the queen...
Is that Helen Mirren?
Yes, yes.
Now, the kind of weird thing this season, I'm kind of perplexed, why even...
I would have stopped it last season, to be honest with you.
is this season is about Diana's death
and the reaction and how it affected the family and all there
and the movie The Queen is about Diana's death
and how it affects the family
and it's both by Peter Morgan
and there's actually almost
now I haven't seen that movie in a long time
but there's scenes that are almost lying for lying the same
in the show than in the movie that came out
fucking 15 years ago
and it's just kind of weird kind of deja vu feeling
it had a good bit especially later on
It is an unusual choice.
You can maybe like approach it from a different angle or something?
They try to do something that will get into it to make a bit different.
And I could not help but compare this to the queen, the movie.
And the queen, I feel like, is a superior work.
Okay.
And there's, if this, the crown feels like a way more, I don't want to say dumbed down,
but more like they've ramped up the emotions, even just the music cues and all that.
Yeah, there's maybe not a lot of soft.
Yeah, like a big thing about
like Prince Charles
isn't a major character
in the queen, the movie,
but he's there and he's just played by some British guy
whereas in the crown it's
McNulty. Yes, Domic West.
And he's just
likable. He's just
really likable. He's just so charming
and handsome. He's got me rooting against
Diana. The whole time I'm like, fuck this bitch.
Oh, I can't wait till she goes to Paris.
I tell you now.
Yeah, do. Keep smiling, love.
they're going to be scraping you off the roll
with a spatula, you
don't cut.
But my point is, in the Queen,
Tony Blair is played by
fucking Martin Sheen.
Michael Sheen. And he's great
in this. And it's, um, Bertie Carver
is doing his best, doing Michael Sheen is better, of course.
Yeah, yeah. But they don't have
any, barely any Tony Blair on this, which is a big
kind of, I want to see some Tony Blair
because normally they kind of focus at least one episode
on the Prime Minister, you know,
know right right well they haven't released all the episodes yeah so maybe they'll get to the
eventually right there yeah yeah but even the stuff we've seen um it he feels like a very much like
a very kind of like oh it's new prime minister that's it you know i really focus on the diana
stuff which makes sense but i've seen all this in the other movie you know so and do they
like approach their you know some people say you're responsible well that's absolutely
No, no, no, that's no way.
No, they wouldn't do that, no.
Come on, that's a bit of a laugh, isn't it?
Pierre Morgan respects the work too much to have crazy conspiracy theories.
Oh, yeah, you're right.
Like, yeah.
Like, the idea, like, that Prince Charles would be unlikable anyway.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And the fact that they, you know, took her to a hospital that was, you know, really far away.
Did they?
Oh, yeah, they were like, they passed, the ambulance passed, like, two other hospitals.
Well, didn't want to get a secure one.
Yeah.
Oh, look at me, I swallowed a soup, haven't I?
To be honest, I think in an emergency situation like that,
it's preservation of life above all else.
Like, an example would be when Reagan was shot.
He was just taking the closest hospital
and there's that bit where it's like,
God, like before, you know, they were about to do surgery on him,
he joked with the medical staff.
I hope you're all Republican.
Yeah.
And they said, today we are, Mr. President.
Which is a good movie about that.
no there isn't
no but that's what I mean
preservation of life but look
we'll get that there on okay
no she hasn't died
they're eating babies
that ain't their little faces off yeah
she hasn't died okay
so far so point is it's
PR war
Bertie Carvel's there as Tony Blair
the first episode is very much like
setting the scenes
all right
the second episode is where the ball
starts to move
and also the crown
has been mostly focused on the queen
for a lot of this
all right
in the first few episodes
the queen
is very much
purposely
a very kind of
absent
kind of a viewer
in all this
like she didn't really
take part
or anything
a lot of just like
oh your majesty
this is happening
she's like
oh okay
or like
you know
Prince Charles
like oh mummy
we
we might be having
a little
sware
do you want to come
she's like no
I'm busy
with my corgis
yeah
and that's
you know
it's like
but mother
you've
you're like
oh I have to do
an event
on the 14
she's like
Bonder, that's the Montaway.
He's like, ah, yeah, boy, fuck off, you know.
She's very distant and she's not really a main player in the show.
It's way more about the former couple, you know, their battles.
And, like, so was Charles banging Camilla the whole time?
Yeah, basically, yeah.
Yeah, and do they go into that much?
Like, how?
In the show, yeah, we've got it all through the whole journey to them, like, as kids and all that.
And, like, it was basically in a range marriage with him and Diana.
Diana is a way better family
way better looking
like literally better looking
for the public
and all that good PR
and all those things
wasn't Camilla Barron
was not a thing
or did somebody just
I don't know
I think that's something
you said a few minutes
to go out
well no
well it's definitely not me
but like
they never had kids
no
no
Charles and Camilla
never had kids
no no
okay
but I'm not
sure what the
what the story
is it
not Barron
most likely
she's got a fanny
like a cold shade
just dark
and empty
and nothing
and warm or happy in it, you know?
But the second episode
is where the public finds out
about the Diana Doddy Al-Fiad
stuff, where it's a guy who's a photographer
and it's a little bit on the nose now
the photographer's like, you know,
I am the greatest paparazzo in the world,
I am the hunter and the killer.
You know, so like, ah, yeah, we get you, yeah.
So he's a picture of her shifting
Doddy, Doddy, Doddy, Adi-Al-Fiad,
right?
And it becomes a big team,
it becomes like a huge,
it's kind of, even though it's the 90s,
it's pretty
not silly
naive where like
the paper's like
oh
this is popular
you know
a former princess
shifting a rich Arab
this is kind
and then like
wait maybe
we get more
pictures of her
we'll sell it for more money
and like
the picture her
shifting
uh
dodi
becomes like
the biggest bidding war
in the British press
for a picture
a few years
is such a change
we're like
I could look up
naked pictures
of both Megan Markel
and
Cape Middleton
Can you?
Yeah,
the boat being
like literally like
In the fapening?
No, no no
I mean like
Their boat like
have been taken
from white angle lenses
Like sunbathing
Or top this or all
Yeah, I see right
So now it's almost like
You're trying to
Whank to pixelated tits
Like it's 2003
The old nostalgia wank eh
Okay, I get it
You go fully back in time
You have a pixelated picture
And like a news footage
With the Iraq war
In the background
Like I'm back baby
Listen to some Dixie
chicks and getting angry
how dare you talk
about my president
so
this happens
okay
and Prince Charles
doesn't like it
and also the thing
where
Diana mentions
that like
he missed one
his weekends
with the kids
right
doing something
and Charles is like
she'd make me
seem like a bad father
yeah
so he does a kind of
a counter
picture then
almost like a
a PR move
where he takes picture
with him
kissing Camilla
and blackfish
Look, I don't understand it either
But this is what we have to do
Sorry, what are you going to say
Just like, take the picture of him
With the kids, you know, a very wholesome picture
Like they're skipping stones
A pond, you know
So it's kind of like she's like a trashy mother
And he's the stable dad
Exactly right there, yeah
He's...
Oh, I know how to discredit women in the press
Believe me
Man, not my first rodeo
Uh, yeah
Stop looking at your phone
Sorry, I'm looking at my notes
Sorry
No, look, I've written notes
No, that's like
it's like when you're
reading the Bible
but you got a
hustler magazine in between
I look at my phone
but I've got a hustler
in front of the phone
You're just called like
an only fan
Yeah, whatever, okay
Also they mentioned
one very quickly
I was like
No way, go back to that
that Diana's really upset
about this
because like you said
it's making it look like a hussy
So she starts
flying around the UK
in a helicopter
talking to psychics
Huh
They kind of just mentioned
that like
Diane's a bit odd
isn't she
psychics
psychics yeah
really
yeah
so she goes to them
she's like
what do they mean
they're like
oh the orb
tells me
you're a hooer
you love
pipe don't you
yeah
that's something
they should have
got into more
the mystic side
of Diana
yeah
I mean
chicks
fuck with psychics
though
don't say
ladies
they do
they like
they like all down
here's saying
what Diana
is
she was not
none of these
people
are normal
human beings
They have not been...
Women?
Yes.
Well, you heard it in there, Brian O'Toole.
They all fly helicopters, all...
And kiss Muslims.
Yeah.
No, I'm just saying like, like all these, like, Diana, even if they're not directly royal,
they're all in these, like, kind of crazy rich families.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
They have no...
Very elitist.
Yeah, they haven't been civilized properly, all right?
Yeah.
You're just watching these people that I saw kind of man children.
So, like, you know, Prince Charles...
probably has, like, is just an internal teenager, you know?
Like, he probably only kind of, he's only, when his mother died, he probably is, now he's
like a 25 year old, you know, like that, like mentally, you know?
Like, he's just going to college for the first time.
He's, he's, like, 78 years old with big sausage fingers.
What is that about?
What is that condition called?
You're asking me, I don't, I don't know.
Is it like hypotension or something?
But his fingers are disgusted.
Yeah, he's got the bends, basically.
Yeah, there's something wrong.
Yeah, but it's something fucked up.
But like, same with Diana.
So like, you know, Diana, even though she's like a mother in this, you know,
she's basically like a rebellious teenager still, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, so it's like, you know, she's going through weird psychic phases, you know.
I'm trying to defend her.
Listen to Green Day and stuff, you know.
She's just Duran Duran.
Oh.
Yeah, as I'm watching Jumanji.
That's a cry for help out there.
You watch him.
I haven't seen Jumanji in a long time, but maybe I'll go back to it.
I think, yeah.
And you're like, oh, I'm like Princess Diana.
I hope.
Maybe I'll go for a spin.
Just pick up a random Muslim guy.
Probably just pick up a kebab.
Close enough.
I can fit the whole thing in my mouth.
Gobble, gobble.
Anyway.
So now here's the thing.
We move on to episode three.
Right.
And we'll get to some glaring stuff for the man.
I'm just setting the table here.
Yeah.
Episode three, I found it incredibly tedious because it's all set in Paris.
Okay.
Okay.
And it's about her and Dobie going in Paris, eating.
There's no other cast members in it really.
It might be here.
It's just about them.
So it's like their last night together.
Yeah, yeah.
And even like the guy who plays Muhammad al-Fiad is actually very good in this.
He's the dad.
Yeah.
And I hope they recreate it when he appears on the Ali G show.
I really hope.
that's when Britain really changed
That's when it peaked right there
That's the apex of British culture
That'd be so funny if they have like a recreate that scene
But they get like some really like distinguished
Like a really distinguished like a
Who would they get to play like Ali G
Like Sasha Barricone
Benedict Cumberbatch
Yeah that perfect
Yeah they're Cumberbatch to play Ali G
Who yaka Shah
Yeah
But anyway the point is
I'm a little bit with him
and that's great, you know,
but it's mostly just them talking
about being a couple.
It's all this stuff we've seen
on the crown a lot of times
like,
isn't it so hard to be reached
but, oh, but we don't know
life and all
the responsibility we have
as public figures and all that
but I want to be free
but you know, all this.
Yeah.
Then they get in a car
and they drive in a tunnel
and we hear crash noise
the end.
Oh, we don't even get to see it.
That's, yeah,
that's the end of episode three.
Fuck.
Right there.
But episode four is the debt.
Right.
They do,
some stuff I liked in this and some stuff
I didn't like. Okay. Now
one thing I didn't like is
they do this thing that
they're doing things, doing movies and shows
I always noticed I don't like it recently
but they do it where like
they'd be like
kids, there's something else to tell you
it's your mother, she's
and then it's silent and it's just
their reaction like their face is like
oh and then they play like sad
music. Yeah. I don't like that
I like to actually see like she's dead
And they go, what, father, what?
You know, like, uh...
She popped the bloody clogs.
She fucking, she's dead, right?
And they do this, like, multiple times in the episode.
It's like, Your Majesty is Princess Diana.
She's, and then, like, just the scene is...
She's what?
She's converted to Islam?
Ah, kind of, in a way, I suppose.
Yeah.
And, and, um, the big thing that people make it fun of it online is, they do ghosts in this.
ghosts
there's ghosts in this
are you serious
yeah so let's say
man what the fuck
let's say it's prince charles
goes to the hospital in France
to see her
he's like
oh no
he gets in a plane
he's like
oh all of Paris
is shut down
because of you
yes I know
and she's on the plane
as well
she had a plane as well
and she's like
you know
oh
something kind of like very
basic where it's like, look, we never
really were meant to be together, but we did one
great thing, or should I say, two
great things, the children.
Even though that other one's not yours,
but anyway, you know, let's not
let it slip. Let's not split
red hairs, huh?
Ooh, I let it slip.
But yeah, it's like, the children
are the most important thing.
Look after them, Charles.
Yeah.
Make sure they never
marry the wrong
sort.
if you know what I'm here
and then they have
Muhammad Alfayad, okay
he's sad about
sun dying
his son died instantly
I didn't
I forgot this now
the son died instantly
all right
then they have him show up
and he's like
was I a good father
he's like
yes father
you were
and
did I put too much pressure
on you
yes but that made me
stronger
evidently not
yeah
and then they have
the queen at the end
though right
maybe you should have
took a minute
to teach him about seatbelt etiquette
you know
the queen at the end is like
oh what to do what to do
and the Diana shows up again
and she's like you know
the most important thing is
the Great Britain
and then she fades away
that's retarded it's pretty bad
like even if
they did it were it was a ghost
but she was silent
yeah that'd be one thing
or just have them look at that picture
yeah yeah but the fact that she's there and talking
it's very hard to take a seriously
and they're really trying to like give
everyone gets like their last words with Diana
and Diana saying like these very you know
thoughtful things like you know like
the children it's all about the children
it's hard to take a leaf out of your brother's book
and focus on the little key
oh yeah
it just comes off really stupid
yeah I was defending a show
I was like watching show being like
hey it's not too bad sure I didn't like the power of stuff
but maybe maybe I'm in the wrong you know
maybe I'm too cynical
but then the ghost showed up
and they're like, ah, okay.
And now there's going to be like a
probably a spin-off series
where it's like, Diana the ghost detective,
you know?
With, uh, yeah, Moldering Scully and Diana.
The ghost whisper.
It's Jennifer Love's huge tapes
and Princess Diana.
Solving spooky mysteries.
I'm wondering what the next,
so like there's 10 episodes all together.
We've only got four.
Diana's dead and it seems like they kind of wrapped it all up
where they had the funeral.
and it's like
you know it seems like everyone's just moved on already
like one episode of them be like
oh Diana's dead we're sad
well we must move forward
and look towards the future
but keep her inside us
at all times
and let's not forget that Titanic's
coming out in a few months
that'll be good
the new Oasis album
come on stiff up a lip
let's go
Leo
yeah
yeah I'm
wonder what you're going to do? What are big events
could they do? I think they're going, it's the last season
it's going to do now to the present.
9-11?
What are they going to have to...
But the Iraq war then,
and, you know... Yeah, but they didn't have any
patterned that? I'm trying to think what...
Really, Brian?
Oh, yes, really? Oh my gosh.
Prince Philip was driving the plane.
Oh, let me bask in this wonderful
moment of your sweet
childlike innocence and
naivit. I really have an angle
file aren't I'm like nobody didn't
but I don't know like they are you know
Iraq war and all that shit
but Tony Blair like
the Prime Minister has to consult with the Queen
every week yeah you're right actually yeah you're right
I was mocking you there
I was yeah yeah he's touching nerve
there yeah so yeah
yeah because there's normally that they kind of
hit there's like obviously then the 7-7
bombings well you're thing it's not
see the show isn't really about the news
per se but I'm thinking of what royal
stuff happened
Pete Dardy and Peyton Moss
Getting off with each other
There's a scene where like
Mom, Majesty, wake up
What is it?
I told you not to wake me on this
It was urgent
Pete Dordy
Well, she's not right for him
He's a bloody Roggan
He's on the gear for coach sake
What about Saville?
Do you ever talk about Savo?
No, they don't.
Saville met her every week
Like the problem is?
now then.
If they got Coogan back
for the little cameo
and Samel,
that'd be how he's a little fun
for the real fans
I guess you know.
Well no
because Charles and Saville were good mates
he was like
didn't Saville try to
during the initial divorce
he tried to like
mended bridges between Diana
John.
Yeah, yeah he was gone
So you keep looking at me
like I'm a retard
to bring it up this stuff
I think you're kind of
putting stuff on me there
right.
Your eyes said it though
I'm thinking more like
your wonky retarded eyes
said it
yeah
that's all we have to say
about the crown
right there
I mean yeah
well
I'll like that
I will watch more
if you were
to hazard a guess
what would you
say or think
well I was
asking you
I can't
I can't
well
my answers
were not
uh
I'm just thinking
like in their lives
yeah
there's like the
the marriage
of course
of him
and
um
what's their face
Camilla
yeah
and then there's no
there's no real
deaths
or the queen
mother dies
I think
at once they
then they have like
the jubilee
of a jubilee
I don't really end with like her Jubilee
and then like a scene where like
the queen died in
22. When did she die
22? Was it 22 or 23?
I don't know. Who does?
She died but her legacy lives on.
Yeah. They'll be something like that right there.
And then just one last shot of
Andrew in a pizza express.
Oh no. They've rambled me.
But her legacy lives on.
And Prince, I was like, yeah.
Let's have it, boys.
Millwall away.
Fucking average.
So I'll watch the rest of it,
but I'm kind of glad.
So I'm glad they're not trying to do
like a season
about the stuff that we've seen too.
Like, you know, they're trying to do like
the Harry and Megan kind of stuff.
Yeah, that'd be too much.
So they've said for definite
this is the last season.
Last season for sure.
Now, what really got my prick hard is
they're looking into doing one
about the Kennedys, all right?
Oh, yeah.
But same the other way of the crown
is like this kind of decade-spanning thing
they want to do one where
it starts off literally like little Joe Kennedy
like you know
bootlegging and fucking doing all this shit
yeah he was a bootlegger during prohibition
right yeah yeah and then
cover the whole
now if they did that properly
be so cool the whole thing but then
they fucking stole an election like
yeah yeah and then like you know
they give you want the son
the firstborn you know Joe's
Joe Jr I think
yeah he dies in a war
dies in a you dies in a war
and this fuck up
uh second
son becomes the president with a bad back
and the other fuck up son gets shot
yeah he's got a bad back
and a great cock yeah
by all the counts
and like then go to the whole
I wonder then how far would they go would they go up to
RFK yeah they've got so much debt
then they can do
Cheryl Hines plays herself
yeah and like season four then they can have like
that one who like crashed the plane and all
that oh yeah
he literally was just driving down
yeah he didn't know which way to go
because it was foggy
and he was like
probably
this direction
yeah there's a lot
you can do there
JFK Jr
we covered the candies
before
but I'd love to see
a proper
dramatization of that
that just shows
how scummy
those Irish mix were
yeah
like they were proper
like they fucking
that's what you want
though
you want it to be proper
like you know
show them at their worst
see I think the
crown
the criticism people
do aim at it
is because
Pierce Morgan
is Peter Morgan
Peter Morgan yeah
Pierce Morgan is worse
Peter Morgan is
He does love this stuff
Like he's written all
He's written so much about the royal family
I think if you spend your life writing about it
You kind of get an appreciation for it
You know
Sure yeah
Yeah like he's definitely been invited
To fancy parties
And I know like a lot of royals don't like the show
But yes
Yeah
It's kind of they
They definitely still like
Run the same circles
Like he's a very rich man
I imagine like Charles is such an idiot
He's watching week to week
I wonder what's gonna happen next week
Charles, this happened to you
you fucking idiot
Don't know
spoilers hashtag spoiler
Will I end up fucking Diana again
But do you want to move on then
To the killer
Yeah so let's do the killer
Okay yeah perfect
So the killer there is the new
Fincher movie
A David Fincher joint
Yeah
Now I was thinking I was trying to rank
My Fincher movies
Okay
But there's a lot of them I don't really love
Well, not don't like, but he's, he's a very,
he's a long career of stuff,
and a lot of it, I haven't, like,
I've never seen the girl with a dragon tattoo.
Have it not?
No.
It's good.
Is it good, is it?
I've never seen the curious case of Benjamin Button.
I've never seen that.
Yeah, I've watched Alien Tree, but I think I, I didn't remember,
I don't remember watching.
I mean, nobody, he, even he says that shite, like, you know,
he had no control.
Yeah, he had no control.
Some good videos of him going mental and sit.
Let's venture alone.
Yeah, right, yeah, yeah.
Show him respect.
Don't disrespect, man, man.
I haven't seen Mank actually
Yeah
Manco is thinking
Going back to
Yeah
You might be more interesting
To go back to it
It's so
It's not what I'm expecting
I thought it's gonna be
A lot about his relationship
Orson Wells for example
Yeah
Orson Wells is like
Fucking like two scenes
One of them is a phone call scene
You know
It's more about Mank
Wander around being drunk
And
Drunk and sad
Yeah
Yeah
I get enough of that at home
You know
But like I need
It's not what I expect
See, also, because I watched a movie about the making of Citizen Kane called RKO-180, I think.
It's a HBO movie.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
With Liv, Shriver, and John Malkovich's Mank.
Nice.
That's a really good movie.
So I watched that beforehand.
I was, again, I had the curse of a comparison.
Yeah, I was just like, this is not John Malkovich.
I'm calling the police.
Where's Leav Schreiber?
Gary Oldman isn't Jewish.
I'm pretty sure.
Yeah.
So, okay, so out of the ones that you have seen, what, I mean, I think...
Obviously, it's like social network, fight clubs seven, I think.
Zodiac?
Oh, Zodiac.
I love Zodiac, yeah.
So it's four there that I fucking love, you know?
And everything, it's like, that's the top tier and everything else is below that right there.
You know, I'm not going to put gone girls top tier, you know?
No.
So one made a very good point about Fincher, where Fincher, he is not the autour.
You know, like, he's not the, like, Tarantino writes some scripts.
Yeah.
Scorsese, he's very, much, like, heavily involved in script and process and all that.
Whereas Fincher is just a director, and he always brings a screenwriter on.
Yeah, but also, he's, he's very, like, almost like a hired gun where he's like, what's this book?
Yeah, I'll do that.
Like, popular book, I'll do it, but I'll do it.
I'll make it a Fincher movie.
Like, you, like, you know, like, Gone Girl and Girl Draking the Two, both, like, books that, like, you walk into any airport book shop, they're the number one book there, okay?
Yeah.
It's almost like he's like, I'm going to take this thing, these kind of trashy stories like...
The dumb women like...
And Brian.
And I'm reading it like, oh my gosh.
Girl, you best get gone.
He don't deserve you, girl.
I hope Ben Affleck plays him in the movie.
It's giving Affleck.
Yeah.
But then it's like, but I'm going to make it a Fincher movie.
Like it's his style.
He's got a very distinct style.
Do you watch a Fincher movie and you know it very quickly?
Yeah, yeah, it's a little dark.
Oh, it's probably him then, isn't it?
And even, like, the killer.
But, you know, like, you watch the killer.
Being facetious there.
David Vitcher's great.
Yeah, he is.
Yeah, you're like...
But it's still fun to be like, yeah, suck my pecker, dork.
Yeah.
So, I know, I'm talking, I'm over talking there.
What did you think about the killer, new joint?
I, I mean, I liked it a lot.
But it didn't fucking blow me away, I got to say, you know.
Yeah, I didn't blow me away.
Yeah, it was good. I enjoyed it. You know, it's a very, you know, it's well made, it's competently made. It's very well-paced. Like, I was never bored. I was into it the whole time. And I did pick up on some, you know, of the sort of whatever, the subtext or the cerebral elements. But for the most part, it's, there's not, doesn't seem to be that much depth to it, I don't think.
No, I wonder why you picked it. Why do you think, because it's based on a popular graphic novel in France.
it's not very popular in the English-speaking world
and then also it's just so similar
to the likes of John Wick and taken
where it's just like
badass dude who'll do whatever it takes
and you know blah
we're going to spoil this by the way
yeah yeah so my thing I was
annoyed about is so in the comics he's very
sigma he's very like
to himself
no girlfriend
and he's got almost like a kind of samurai way of life
like do the job get the money
have sex with the child and leave
Don't overthink it, all right?
This is not your life, it's just your job.
It's like that.
Almost like, like, you know, he treats it like a job, right?
Yeah.
And, you know, if, like, even like in the comics, I remember one stage, like, you know,
one of my first hits that someone saw, I had to kill him.
You know, these things happen, you know, I was sloppy, you know, get better, move on.
You know, it's like that.
He's very, he's not like, you know, oh, to be a killer.
Yeah.
Oh, what is this life?
Oh, I am so steeped in blood.
thou doesn't he's not like that he's just like it's a job he's that's saying he's very methodical
he's very cold he has an ethos it's like uh do what thou wilt that shall be law which is actually
an alister crowley quote i believe makes sense yeah crowley was cool yeah i think he fucked a donkey
or maybe i did i can't remember one no he was but that it's interesting because yeah
do what thou wilt thou shall be law or whatever the fuck that is basically alister crowley
saying give in to your bass
or desires do whatever the fuck
you want and who cares
that's not really the ethos of
his character he's like this is a job
this is what has to be done i take
no pleasure in it i'm just clocking
in pull the trigger and leaving you know
well one thing i liked about the movie is
one thing is like he is a little bit
of
uh
he's a bit of fuck up
yeah he's not you know what's funny is
normally these movies you show him doing some
successful hits yeah and then one goes
wrong. It's the very first one.
He's just like, yeah, the whole
voiceover's like, I'm really good at this.
I'm actually so good. Oh no, I
fuck it off. Oh, no. If you look
back on it, it's funny because it is like, I had to go
back and look, it's like a 20 minute
scene at the start. Of him like waiting
going McDonald's. It's all about the
patience, all right? Yeah, and like stalking
the prey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The
razor like he's counting, his
heartbeat, he's doing all this stuff.
He's listed to the Smiths. Yeah, all this stuff
to make you a better person. A consummate
professional.
And then he fucks up straight away
Yeah, yeah
Throughout the movie
He does things
And sometimes they work
And sometimes they don't
Like again
When you know when he
I'm movie movie laugh
You know when he like shoots
The guy in the chest
With the nail go
Yeah
And he's like
Okay
Do you have my calculations here
You should have one minute
Left to live
Oh shit
He just dies
Hey
Hey wake up
You idiot
You I'm supposed to die yet
My calculations
Yeah you're right
So it kind of shows
The human error
aspect of it, which is something
you never really get to see with these
again with a John Wick type
where he's just like almost super
human in his abilities
whereas he is not that he's
very good at what he does, but mistakes
happen, you know? Which is another thing in the comic
that they do show some point. I haven't read all, is like just
about six volumes but
um... And you haven't read them all?
I haven't done. For fuck sake, man. Do you even care
about this anymore? He's watching
cheers, aren't you? That's it. You're banned from cheers.
No more Cliff Claving
for you, Brian. But I need
it. But yeah
so that is the thing in that where he does
make mistakes and he has to power through it
sometimes. Yeah.
I don't know if I would like
to see more of the killer, the character.
Yes. I would like see more of this.
I mean, you know, like.
Because I didn't really like the ending.
The ending is a big thing I didn't like. We'll get to
the ending later on. But I thought the ending
was pretty anticlimactic. Okay, well, just
so the whole thing is
it starts on with him doing a hit. He botches
the hit. And now there are a reaper
So the people that hired him have like basically gone about to rectify this mistake by killing him or people that he cares about.
Yeah, basically wiping the record clean.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So now he has to, so he's got a girlfriend in South America.
Which I didn't like.
Okay.
You shouldn't have a girlfriend.
You're right.
That's gay.
Yeah.
Well, also like in the comics.
He's very distant.
He has one nice dance and he leaves.
Yeah.
You know, he doesn't, no attachments.
It's all about the coming and going.
It's no attachment.
are weak you know what they said heat
yeah you know
I forget things that
I forget what they said
but something about like
when the police are coming
you better run away fast
you better come quick
and get out of there
you better be ready to judge
within 30 seconds
if you'll feel the heat
coming around the corner
when they're jizzing around the corner
you bet
but anyway
for me the action is the jizz
so
yeah so
he his girlfriend then
gets so other
contract killers
or heavies.
They don't kill her
but they beat her
within an inch for her life.
Is it implied
that she gets raped?
I don't think so.
I think it is.
Even that,
like why would they leave her alive?
Yeah, true.
All that stuff there.
I didn't like any of that.
Yeah.
There is a lot of things.
That felt like a little bit like
because I like the comic
because it's so almost
like anti all that stuff.
There isn't a love interest.
He has no sympathetic qualities.
There is.
isn't like, you know, but there's a little kid
and he helps a little kid to ride a bicycle
when he's not killing people.
There's none of that.
And then this, they're like,
okay, we have to give him a girlfriend.
And now, now that's motivation.
It's not just selfish.
No, no, I didn't.
That's what I'm saying, yeah.
It's just, I would prefer if it's like,
oh, trying to kill me, I got to kill them.
That's it, you know.
And it would be way better as well, okay?
If it ended with him, like, winning,
and just him sitting in his gaff, being like,
yeah, I rule.
That's it.
I totally.
rule.
Yeah, you know, if it was that,
he's wearing a Charlie Sheen t-shirt
winning. That would have been
a way better ending, I think, if it's just
like, thinking it's like, he's
done all this, okay, and now
he's, he's won, and he's just
a lonely guy, almost like the start
of the film. He's a lonely guy
still just eating McDonald's and living, like,
living in a wee work, you know? I would
like that way more as an ending there.
But, hey, look,
what do I know? I'm just a guy
with a dream. Yeah, I mean,
again, it's not, you know,
it's definitely not going to go down as one of his,
best or most iconic.
It's somewhat forgetable.
And like, I've heard people make the argument as like,
if you think that, it's because you don't fully understand it.
Who's saying this?
Just dipshits on Reddit.
You know what?
This is why you shouldn't be on Reddit, man.
Oh, I, I knew.
Because you never go on Reddit, do you?
No, no, but I can handle it, you know?
Yeah, all right.
Man, I'm not the one is like, if you see one thing on Twitter,
you're like upset for a week and a half.
You know, like, visit, like, you know, your blood pressure changes.
It has physiological effects.
I'm counting on my heart rate.
I was like, no, I can't shoot anyone now.
But, um, okay, so one aspect of this, I did notice a lot of product placement.
We see a lot of, like, a company, like McDonald's, we work, Starbucks.
I want to say it's product placement.
Not product placement, but it's just, it's a lot of companies.
So I was kind of thinking maybe is the whole sort of allegory of like the,
hired killer
or kind of like
you know
oh it's just like
corporations
they're the real
killers or something
stupid like that
you know
you know what
I think as well
like
the main character
the killer
he does talk a lot
like Ed Norton
there's a lot
like that kind of
monolog
like you know
these people
eating McDonald's
yeah
I am
I'm above this
because I can
narrate things
and it's kind of
like
it's like
the men
it's always been
the will of law
that the few
rule
and the many.
Yeah, the kind of guys
and kind of
drools.
Be the few,
one of the few
or one of the many.
Yeah, yeah.
It's kind of like
if a very,
like he's a very
stereotypical Fincher character.
Yeah,
and it's obviously
the screenplay is by the dude
who wrote seven as well.
Yeah, yeah.
So it's got that real like,
you know,
cynicism,
just like,
yeah,
this world is such a toilet.
Make sure you don't
get flushed away
with the other
turds.
Yeah.
You're all turds.
I feel like, you know, the ending where he's, like, kind of like, you know, basically like, I win.
Do you have what it takes to be as cool as me?
Yeah, yeah.
I think that was a little bit of an indictment to kind of like, you know, like, you taught this guy was cool, did you?
Oh, right.
Yeah, I thought a little bit like that.
Same way, like, not the movie wanted.
Okay, you know, the movie wanted.
Yeah.
Not that.
Okay.
That movie was based on a comic book.
Right.
All right.
And the comic book's very different.
The comic books all by superheroes.
Okay.
So you know in the movie
It's a secret society of assassins
In the comic
They're actually supervillains
Okay
Same kind of basic friends
But also in the
In the comic
Like he's a rapist
The point is like
In that he's like
Full on like he just becomes evil
All right
And he's like
You know
They say like
I raped a well-known celebrity
Who got nominated for an actress
Last year
It was awesome
Jesus
And they just cover it up
You know
Wow
And he's like killing children
And stuff
Damn
and it's like how awesome he is
but then at the end
it literally
he breaks the fort walls
like you guys like that
you read six issues of this
you freak
yeah like fuck you
oh what
that ends of him saying
fuck you
he gives a middle finger
to the reader
that's good
okay
good good you're like
no no he quit on me
uh yeah
no that's uh
I don't know
that's a real like
dumb
like break the fourth walls
like oh what turns out the biggest loser is you no i don't know i didn't need that i don't like
i was already having a bad day no i don't like i also hate that thing it's like you enjoy the art
yeah yeah yeah you enjoy this imagine enjoying a show about a guy who kills people that's never
been done before yeah yeah yeah yeah uh anyway um what else with the killer i like the fight scene in
florida i thought that was good with the big muscle dude yeah yeah that was the most kind of
john wick just like action scene just balls to the wall yeah
I liked as well
Fincher
Not Fincher
What's his name
Michael Fastbender?
Fastbender, yeah
He could
He should have died
About nine times
During that fight
That guy was whacking him
Yeah
Yeah, he was whacked him
The bits
Like, I felt the pain
Okay
Yeah, yeah
I felt very visceral
That fight scene
It was, yeah
It was very well done
And when that dog
Goes through the glass
I was like fuck
Yeah
Yeah, yeah
Yeah, yeah
I like that bit
I like Tilda Swinton
stuff
I liked the kind of
change in pace
with that. Yeah, and then the little story
about the hunter. Yeah.
Or, well, it's a joke, isn't it?
Oh, I believe.
It's a joker way of life.
Yeah, no, look, it is good,
but yeah, it didn't blow me away, you know.
But as you, would you like to see a killer two?
Yeah.
Yeah?
Of course, yeah, I liked him. What would he do?
Would he kill more people?
It would be an adaptation of the second killer book.
Okay.
And then an adaptation of the third killer book.
Have you read the source material?
I have told, no, I'll be honest with you.
I haven't now, but apparently it's good.
Okay.
It gets better and better.
I hear it's good.
And I would like to...
I don't know.
I'd rather see...
If Fincher's going to do a new film,
I'd like to see him do something a bit different.
I don't know.
It's weird.
Just all of the elements when I was presented with them initially is like,
it's Fincher, it's the screenwriter of seven.
It's Michael Fastbender as a, you know, contract killer.
I don't know.
it just
there was a lot
of promise
and it felt like
it underdelivered
or something.
What do you think
about the ending?
Yeah,
I mean...
I thought it was very anti
the whole thing
was like he just meets
the guy
and I didn't like
as well he's like
he's like a kind of
tech
guy as it just felt
like a lazy
kind of parody of
like tech in general
not even like of a
particular person
it wasn't like
it wasn't like
a one to one
parody of a musk
or
I don't know
a Wazniak or something like that
it was just like
general kind of
tech guys are kind of
fat white guys he's like
don't don't kill me because I'm the killer
and he wasn't fat though he was pretty small
and scrawny okay well there's loser
bald yeah it's loser
loser white guy yeah it's like just some loser
guy all right right who's like a bit of an
asshole yeah yeah and then
like he's like don't kill me because I'm the killer
so I'll kill you
and he's like okay
you'll be left alone he goes good
the end I would like if
he goes in and he just discovers
some weird shit going on like
It's like, you know what?
I would wish they went
for like full kill list almost
and he goes into the guy's apartment
and it's like a kind of
proper like baby sacrifice going on
or something like really weird
he stumbles into this like thing
and it's like he actually kind of
stopped this evil cabal
by accident.
He's like oh shit
and then like they're like
well you save the day
he's like a fuck off
just shoots the other person
runs away
you know
I would like a bit extra cherry on top
I tell you I did get a chuckle
when he broke that old Bin's neck
and she went down the stairs
Yeah, yeah
That was funny
That was a
That was a good laugh
I thought it was pretty
traumatic to be honest
Oh
Because I was like
This poor woman
Yeah
But that was
It's good because
You know
He's the protagonist
And she was a very
sympathetic character
Yeah
That's more like the comic
Yeah
More the comic
Where the
It's a real kind of like
Oh shit
When he just like
Snaps her net
You know
It's great
I liked his diet
As well
Diet was fun
You know
Weird diet
He was like
I want to eat that
You know the McDonald's where you take the buns
and throw them in the bin?
Yeah.
I want to do that.
That'll look cool.
And once they're just eating a raw egg
and drinking coffee.
Yeah, he's very...
It's got 12 grams of protein.
Yeah, yeah, weird.
I did like as well...
What about the condiments, Michael Padsbender?
Well, hot sauce.
I liked...
For a lot of it, it felt almost like
a video game
where he's whittem the whole time.
Yeah, yeah.
See him in the place, the wee work.
Getting in the, going off on the bike, going to the airport, getting ready in the airport, you know, seeing a weird guy, not getting on the plane because he's freaked out, staying in the hotel.
Yeah.
You're just really going A to B to C to D.
Yes, there was like a methodical element to it.
Which Fincher is known for being very methodical, even just the way he makes movies.
Yeah, he does like loads of fucking takes.
Here's one thing, and I'm not, I don't even know, it's just something I notice, but like, so he has various.
aliases throughout there.
But, like, they're all of, like, pretty
well-known characters.
Like, there's one that's George Jefferson.
Is there? There's one that's Felix Unger.
Who's there?
From the odd couple.
Jack is Walter Matow
and... Oh, shit. Jack Lemon.
Yeah, yeah, I didn't realize that. Oh, fuck.
And, like, all the...
Like, they're all... I'm pretty sure he is
Sam Malo, not one point.
As an alias.
Fuck.
Yeah.
That's funny now.
Yeah.
Oh, actually, I'm surprised I didn't notice that.
Yeah.
I think I heard once or twice.
I was like, oh, coincidence or like, you know, whatever.
Yeah, but like George Jefferson in particular.
I think the Jefferson one did pop out with me, but like, yeah, like, there's so much, there's a lot going on my life.
Then I was just kind of like, I wonder what, what's the point of that, like, is it just funny?
I think the killer, the actual character, probably would think, like, that's fun, that's clever.
George Jefferson
Like the show
What? No
That's my name
This says your name is Bill Cosby
His name wasn't Bill
He's Hoxtable in the show
You idiot
Oh
I've made a mistake again
Huxstable Cosby
That he's a black face
Yeah we didn't really get to see him
Wear any like wacky costumes
Or disguises you know
It was just hats and shit
He just put on
I slip in through the shadows in night.
Just wearing a stupid.
What do you think is dressed like an astronaut?
He's like, oh.
Boring a plane, dressed as an astronaut.
Ars, shever my timbers.
I'm an astronaut.
I'm astronaut.
Bill Clinton.
I am not a crook.
I'm an astronaut.
Yeah, I liked it for what it was now
Yeah, no, I did enjoy it while I watched it
It's well made
I think the cinema experience
Really heightened my enjoyment of a doll
Okay
It was funny watching it
A bunch of people who actually wore
Invest in it
Like it gets your attention
Even like these long scenes and that
Yes
And then like when the fight happened
A lot of people were like
Oh God like you know
You're getting like reactions to it
That was intended
It was it was wonderfully paced
Even like that
You know
That sequence where he's in the hotel
It's like okay
or like he's getting on the plane
but he doesn't like the look of a guy
so he just goes to his hotel
he's cleaning himself
you know it's not like
you know it's not particularly exciting
but it's just very well shot
and you're winning the whole time
yeah you're invested you know yeah
like I was never bored
I was I was into it the whole time
he's never like I said he focused up before
but even like when it's going well
he's never in like a boring
it's never boring
how in control he is
he is a bit like oh shit
I gotta clean myself again
he's never like it's all gone like you know i do hate when there's like a thing where
like it's a real like ocean's leavening where something goes wrong like nine things go
wrong and then he's like you know the police are after like guess what this is all part of the
plan and do a flashback and it's like okay so there's no tension at all like they knew exactly
how he's all he's he's plans ahead yeah right but he's still kind of winging it a little
bit yeah yeah why uh why the smiths
would you say
that's not in the comic
yeah why is he just listening
to the Smiths
he doesn't do a bit too much I thought
every single car scene
he's playing now
I was like
I'm like come on
sometimes the same song
yeah
that was like a little bit
I'll at least break it up
and have a different song
every time
yeah what about some
Yeezy or Jack Harlow
you know
you'll be funny
at the very end
he's like someone like
you know like
the tech guy
he's walking out
and he finds a Jack Harlow
CD he's like
oh
Oh, this guy's white, but he's pretty cool.
And then he's like, my life is complete now.
And it ends of him in the gaff, all right, and it turns,
as like Jack Harlow's there.
He's like, a winning.
And they do a TikTok together.
Yeah.
So I enjoyed it now for what it was.
I wasn't really expecting too much from it.
Like I wasn't, I wasn't going in and being like,
this is going to be sin and that.
Yeah, I don't know.
I guess maybe I was hoping for a little bit of that seven,
magic, you know.
Oh, well.
He's done some good movies now.
No, he has, he has.
Maybe I will watch Mank again.
It's a great cast.
You got dance, you got Seafried, you got Oldman.
Yeah.
It's just a little bit too meandering on purpose for my liking.
Yeah.
And also, I think what hurts is he probably should have got someone to redo the script.
Because the whole thing is like, if you don't know, his dad wrote it.
Who, Mank's dad?
No, no.
Fincher's dad.
Yeah.
Oh, his dad's a failed screenwriter.
Yeah, so it's all, I could.
God, that's a real fuck you, isn't it?
It's like, hey, dad, you're never at any success.
Also, it's something that I kept thinking about when I was watching.
I kind of knew too much about it.
So it's like, okay, so this guy, whatever, you know, Michael Fincher or whatever like that,
he was a failed screenwriter.
He wrote a screenplay about one of the greatest screenwriters ever who doesn't get the respect he deserves.
Yeah, it's about like how he's under the shadow of Orson Wells, okay?
And then he dies and then his son who's successful does a,
You can read too much into that
Yeah, okay, yeah
It's hard to maybe
Like leave that at the door
I think when Fincher's making it as well
He's probably like, I can't change this
Because of my dad's vision, you know
And it's like, just a bit boring
Shut up
You know what I like about being a screenwriter
Tell me Mr. Mag
The fact that I know one day my son
We'll also be a film guy
person man
yes you are correct
I'm starting to see why maybe this wasn't picked up
no respect he says
no respect at all
well yeah
we're at the hour here we hit the hour yeah
yeah so I would
actually would recommend the Crown
it's on Netflix fucking you know
it's not I'm not you to go out
I'm not going to watch it
come on live a little
watch cheers
and the killer again
I'll watch cheers but I'm not watching
the Crown
it's not a choice
it's two or
nothing, okay? Well, I'm sorry
Watch it on two TVs, one TV
were there and one TV were... I mean, because I'm
a proud Irishman and Republicans
so where I come from, there's
an old saying, better to be
a paedophile than an anglophile.