Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 213 : The Killer Queen

Episode Date: December 3, 2023

The ghost of Diana hangs with the BJ boys......

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right. All right, we're going again, guys. We're back recording a free episode right now. We're going to talk about the Crown and the Killer. Awesome. Two pieces of media that I enjoyed a lot. Okay. The Crown I enjoyed, people are slagging it off.
Starting point is 00:00:14 The Crown? They're slagging it. Saying what? On the British tabloids, yeah. That is dog shit. That's for idiots. Drek, they call it, yeah. Distasteful, it says, well.
Starting point is 00:00:24 Oh, probably because she's only after popping her clogs. The old bent dives, didn't she? Well, they don't say that in the show, but yeah, they wouldn't like, you know, they wouldn't like you either. They don't like, don't like the crown, James Cadden. They don't like art. And also, I'm drinking... Oh, smelly bint pops your clothes and a sands of facking nuns.
Starting point is 00:00:44 What's wrong with her eyes? I'm laughing at it, really? And also, I bought an iron brew here. It's iron brew extra. What's extra about this? I don't know, I'm going to find out. I can barely open it. Look at me weakly, kind of like, ugh.
Starting point is 00:00:57 My hands are too slippy. Yeah. I'm going to drink it now So we can be silent while I drink it Go, go Come on, swallow it, you little whore Ooh, I like it Is it different?
Starting point is 00:01:12 It's a little bit stronger It's a little bit almost extra It's a little bit strong Oh, that's separate the men from the boys I get a headache straight away The feet of position It's lying down and like, oh, James I put you in a cold shower
Starting point is 00:01:28 get some narca and quick he's O-Ding Oh god So I'll talk about I think the crown first Okay So like I said This season I'm a big fan the crown
Starting point is 00:01:40 Yes And I feel like The closer gets to the present The kind of less interest I am in it To be honest with you yeah Because you know more about it Yeah and also it just gets a bit sillier There's a bit more
Starting point is 00:01:51 Like in the earlier seasons There's a bit more prestige and mystique And it's like the past You're like learning stuff Where the more modern day stuff Yeah, you're right I do know a lot of this I'm a bit of a royal head
Starting point is 00:02:04 Like I do like the lore What do they call those Royal? Like that's not what it's called Pedophiles, I think Oh right, yes But there is like royal fans Like you go really into it right there And I'm a little bit like that
Starting point is 00:02:15 Anglo files Anglophiles That's it That's the people who know I know it was close to pedophile There is like a very weird kind of subsection In America especially
Starting point is 00:02:25 And also other places America I know is it right there's people who they really love British culture and they tried like embrace down like no no I'm not just I'm not none sure I'm from Boston
Starting point is 00:02:36 yes but I'm not like my parents so they like what American sports no thank you are like the Premier League and I love are you being served but they always like put America
Starting point is 00:02:49 they always put English culture on a pedestal it'll watch something like oh my God the writing on this you could you couldn't do that on American television they wouldn't allow it
Starting point is 00:02:59 it's so cerebral intellectual like in the in-betweeners when Jay talks about clunge and calls his mates a bunch of puffs oh it's just ever so witty and delightful just they hear the British accent
Starting point is 00:03:14 and they get mesmerized into thinking it's you know culture and high art like there is people in America who walk around like basically dressed up like they're in Tatsur's Britain still you know and they have Keynes
Starting point is 00:03:26 and stuff and like, oh yes, what what indeed, I am from Minnesota I am. I'm handkerchiefs and pocket watches. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just more stuff for the Puerto Ricans and take off your lifeless corpse, you fucking frub.
Starting point is 00:03:44 Well, these like that as well. Ironically, that's closer to real British ideology than they can imagine. But, uh... And also, his other place as well, like, you know, in India, like, there's a lot of people like really embraced the English way
Starting point is 00:03:58 and they're almost like you know the worst thing we ever did was leave it you know like yeah
Starting point is 00:04:02 it's almost like they're like Northern Ireland they love yeah like the Unionists in Northern Ireland but they're in like
Starting point is 00:04:08 Pakistan being colonised being colonised the best thing never happened to me I'll tell you that now yeah
Starting point is 00:04:12 but so anyway the crowd we love the television show give your head peace with Uncle Andy and Da
Starting point is 00:04:22 that is very good yes yeah So, my point is I like the crown, okay? Yeah, I don't care what people say, all right? Some people are real like, you watch the crown, ew, and they make fun of me and say, put your clothes back on. You don't appreciate culture, you dumb bitch. I hope they're teaching you better in this school.
Starting point is 00:04:45 That's all I can say. Once you get to secondary school, you're really going to have to wise up. See how I keep building on it, making you more and more. I was trying to tell her about Princess Margaret Yeah But anyway, so Netflix is the only thing now Where instead of just releasing all 10 episodes at once Right
Starting point is 00:05:04 They're releasing it in chunks Oh So it's four episodes And I think like, you know Maybe three and four or something like that I don't know how they're doing it But it's four episodes for now, all right? Any reason as to why?
Starting point is 00:05:15 I think what they should Which is smart, like Netflix Space out You release it all at once People like get sick of it like you know It's like it's as Netflix is a subscription model Right? So wouldn't it make more sense
Starting point is 00:05:29 to release it in week to week kind of thing than more people would want to subscribe and keep subscribing? Well, I don't know, maybe, but I don't know. All your streaming services, no one else is doing this dumping thing that Netflix do. Which is like, here, take it. Yeah, yeah, go on.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I bet the new stranger things will be done like this as well, you know? Okay. Like week to week, probably instead. It just makes more sense financially. And also, like... So we could just see them getting older and older. but also it's more like a better streaming service, a streaming business.
Starting point is 00:05:59 So like, you release it in one chunk, all right? Yeah. Talk about it for the weekend, then move on to the next thing. But now it can be more a water cooler thing. People talk about it. It's harder to promote the show as well, because you get like one weekend for the stars come out and be like, oh, watch the Crown. Yeah. And afterwards, like, oh, that's that thing
Starting point is 00:06:15 I saw. Yeah, half watched it, and shit. Yeah, yeah. So I'm a point there, it's only four episodes out. Right. But I've watched four episodes. And you love that. You love it when Master comes down and says You're only allowed to watch this much You're right, I only deserve the crumbs No, I'm like the one who's like, you know we don't deserve
Starting point is 00:06:32 the crumbs, do we guys? They all hate me Maybe we should pay More guys, right, for quality Let's sing a song for Master Drop trials, fellas It's time to bend over and show Master our appreciation
Starting point is 00:06:50 So I watched the four episodes there Like getting bummed, don't you? That's you, that's he's. Getting out something to shake. You're not wrong. Am I right? You're not wrong.
Starting point is 00:07:02 So, we're going to start off with episode one. Okay. Episode one, it's set in like the 90s. And this chunk episode is really about the PR war between Charles and Diana. Okay. So they're split up. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:15 Diana is her own thing. And she's very sexy in the show, isn't she? Too sexy one might say. Well, that's also what the royal family worry about because they think like well you know she's not royal she's divorced so British people don't care about a sexy divorce woman do they
Starting point is 00:07:30 turns out they're wrong they actually quite like her yeah and she's in the papers the whole time and she's over there you know touching sick kids like they're human yeah the queen's like oh we just can't compete with this so it turns out land mines but maybe I could touch the little children
Starting point is 00:07:46 no Andrew no thank you it turns out landmines and bikinis are actually pretty interesting yeah yeah so Real sex bomb. Oh, yeah. Huh? Yeah, I get you.
Starting point is 00:07:59 You don't just... All right. Hey, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's all right. The damage is done. Let's just try and rebuild. You know, sometimes I'm like, like, what do you want? It goes, like, I'm only human, you know, and sometimes like, not you now. It's a while...
Starting point is 00:08:13 Oh, not me? Definitely not me. There was a while I go is record a podcast to someone. There was a while I was with someone, they told me a joke. And I was like, yeah. Yeah. And they were like, oh, you hate it. like, no, what, what do you want for me?
Starting point is 00:08:25 You know, sometimes I just hear something. I'm not going to, like, give it my all, all the time. Even just like a fake laugh? That would be disrespectful. Okay, to the art of comedy. That is who I serve. Yeah. It's about the PR war between that.
Starting point is 00:08:40 So the press loves Diana. Yeah. And Prince Charles doesn't understand. He's, what about Camilla? Yeah. He wants Camilla to be in the paper instead of Diana. He wants people to focus on Camilla, his new wife. It's probably because you're baron, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:08:52 That's why they're, don't like you. So he's trying to get them. And I also think it's funny as well, they have the cameramen following her around and these press guys like, Dejana, doiana, doiana. But the show they're bad guys,
Starting point is 00:09:03 they're all Nordies. Oh, really? They're all Nordies. They're all right. Diana, show us. Are we funny? They're literally like that. And she's got good relationship with them though.
Starting point is 00:09:13 She's like, okay, how about this boys? You leave me and the kids a little one and I'll give you something nice. Like, what do you mean? And she's like, this. And she gets up to a little turn around in the bikini, like, oh, yeah, or, what's it now? Oh, jeez, now.
Starting point is 00:09:27 I almost feel bad, planting the same text on your cure, you fucking sexy way of you, who are you? I'm gonna give you me cocks away I'm, all right? Just pure Jim McDonald's, man, you know?
Starting point is 00:09:43 So, like, she's got a good relationship to the press and all that. She knows how to work the room, you know? Obviously, they're annoying as fuck, okay, but she knows how to handle a little bit better, like, then Charles this is a PR team and they're like well what about we have a nice dinner party
Starting point is 00:09:57 and we take pictures of that and Camilla cutting a cake the press will love that and they don't no one cares about Camilla at all and we also they really make they emphasize a difference
Starting point is 00:10:10 so it's like Prince Charles in a big castle you know with mummy you know the queen and the kids and they're like we'll go hunting today yes yes and then they're cut to like Diana she's watching Jamongi wearing a Duran Duran Duran t-shirt.
Starting point is 00:10:26 Okay. They're loving Jumanji, by the way, yeah. Who are? Her whole team are watching it, you know. She's got a whole press team, the kids are there, you know. Robin Williams? Dobby Alfoyad.
Starting point is 00:10:39 Dodi Alfoyad. He's loving it. Yeah, to see Robin Williams running around, you know, they're proper knee slapping, you know. They're having a great time, okay. I like the David Allen Greer playing Mr. Police Officer
Starting point is 00:10:52 man, but he very, he goes Ah, no, here come the tigers and lions, and they run away, very fun. But at this time, their relationship's a secret. That's not a very good Diana impression, is it? I need to work on that, I think. This is
Starting point is 00:11:08 Prince Harry. Oh, hello, place to you, and a thousand blessings upon us on this beautiful morning. I have to say, I did, weirdly enough, I found the Al-Fiyadhad stuff more interested in Diana stuff, be honest.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Okay. The Diana stuff is lots of shots of her looking sad and we're like, oh, she was the people's princess. But with the Alphiad stuff, it's more interesting. He, he, this is a secret, by the way. Okay. This relationship, all right? Right. And like, he, he was engaged. Really? To a sexy, not Kate Mara, but a Kate Mara type. Okay. Like a real like, oh my God, why are you hanging out with Diana? Do you want a fuck her? No, no. I'm just on the boat with her naked, relax, woman. Oh my God, I can't
Starting point is 00:11:55 fucking believe it. On the papers it says, you're banging her. I was like, oh, you know what the papers are like, you know. And she's like, you know, I'm on it. She's on a little boat at one stage. Like, let me on the boat. He's like, no, no. This guy rules. He would just like it. He's like the original Andrettead.
Starting point is 00:12:11 I'm here on my Bugatti with Princess Diana, and I'm going to let her suck my ball. And you just wait there because you are my property, you dumb bitch. Look the American was like, let me on. They won't let me on. the nor is like, ah, you know what you mean.
Starting point is 00:12:23 Ah, that's it. They love here. Welcome to the party, hey. Hi. And another thing about this episode is introduced to
Starting point is 00:12:30 Tony Blair for the season. Right, okay. And it's Bertie Caraville. Do you know Bertie Caraville? Okay, he's a very good character actor. He's been a lot of stuff. Nothing too major that you'd know,
Starting point is 00:12:41 okay, but he's a good actor. I like him. He's Tony Blair. And of course, the big thing about this season is, it's written by, is it, Piers Morgan? Or Peter Morgan.
Starting point is 00:12:49 That's it. Peter Morgan. Now, Peter Morgan is a very prolific, successful British writer. So he is best known for doing stuff like Frost Nixon. All right. And the Damned United. Have you ever seen that? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:03 Which is one of my favorite movies. I love that movie. And then the queen, the queen was his big one. Right. And the queen... Is that Helen Mirren? Yes, yes. Now, the kind of weird thing this season, I'm kind of perplexed, why even...
Starting point is 00:13:17 I would have stopped it last season, to be honest with you. is this season is about Diana's death and the reaction and how it affected the family and all there and the movie The Queen is about Diana's death and how it affects the family and it's both by Peter Morgan and there's actually almost now I haven't seen that movie in a long time
Starting point is 00:13:38 but there's scenes that are almost lying for lying the same in the show than in the movie that came out fucking 15 years ago and it's just kind of weird kind of deja vu feeling it had a good bit especially later on It is an unusual choice. You can maybe like approach it from a different angle or something? They try to do something that will get into it to make a bit different.
Starting point is 00:13:57 And I could not help but compare this to the queen, the movie. And the queen, I feel like, is a superior work. Okay. And there's, if this, the crown feels like a way more, I don't want to say dumbed down, but more like they've ramped up the emotions, even just the music cues and all that. Yeah, there's maybe not a lot of soft. Yeah, like a big thing about like Prince Charles
Starting point is 00:14:23 isn't a major character in the queen, the movie, but he's there and he's just played by some British guy whereas in the crown it's McNulty. Yes, Domic West. And he's just likable. He's just really likable. He's just so charming
Starting point is 00:14:39 and handsome. He's got me rooting against Diana. The whole time I'm like, fuck this bitch. Oh, I can't wait till she goes to Paris. I tell you now. Yeah, do. Keep smiling, love. they're going to be scraping you off the roll with a spatula, you don't cut.
Starting point is 00:14:55 But my point is, in the Queen, Tony Blair is played by fucking Martin Sheen. Michael Sheen. And he's great in this. And it's, um, Bertie Carver is doing his best, doing Michael Sheen is better, of course. Yeah, yeah. But they don't have any, barely any Tony Blair on this, which is a big
Starting point is 00:15:12 kind of, I want to see some Tony Blair because normally they kind of focus at least one episode on the Prime Minister, you know, know right right well they haven't released all the episodes yeah so maybe they'll get to the eventually right there yeah yeah but even the stuff we've seen um it he feels like a very much like a very kind of like oh it's new prime minister that's it you know i really focus on the diana stuff which makes sense but i've seen all this in the other movie you know so and do they like approach their you know some people say you're responsible well that's absolutely
Starting point is 00:15:49 No, no, no, that's no way. No, they wouldn't do that, no. Come on, that's a bit of a laugh, isn't it? Pierre Morgan respects the work too much to have crazy conspiracy theories. Oh, yeah, you're right. Like, yeah. Like, the idea, like, that Prince Charles would be unlikable anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:06 And the fact that they, you know, took her to a hospital that was, you know, really far away. Did they? Oh, yeah, they were like, they passed, the ambulance passed, like, two other hospitals. Well, didn't want to get a secure one. Yeah. Oh, look at me, I swallowed a soup, haven't I? To be honest, I think in an emergency situation like that, it's preservation of life above all else.
Starting point is 00:16:29 Like, an example would be when Reagan was shot. He was just taking the closest hospital and there's that bit where it's like, God, like before, you know, they were about to do surgery on him, he joked with the medical staff. I hope you're all Republican. Yeah. And they said, today we are, Mr. President.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Which is a good movie about that. no there isn't no but that's what I mean preservation of life but look we'll get that there on okay no she hasn't died they're eating babies that ain't their little faces off yeah
Starting point is 00:17:02 she hasn't died okay so far so point is it's PR war Bertie Carvel's there as Tony Blair the first episode is very much like setting the scenes all right the second episode is where the ball
Starting point is 00:17:14 starts to move and also the crown has been mostly focused on the queen for a lot of this all right in the first few episodes the queen is very much
Starting point is 00:17:23 purposely a very kind of absent kind of a viewer in all this like she didn't really take part or anything
Starting point is 00:17:30 a lot of just like oh your majesty this is happening she's like oh okay or like you know Prince Charles
Starting point is 00:17:35 like oh mummy we we might be having a little sware do you want to come she's like no I'm busy
Starting point is 00:17:40 with my corgis yeah and that's you know it's like but mother you've you're like
Starting point is 00:17:46 oh I have to do an event on the 14 she's like Bonder, that's the Montaway. He's like, ah, yeah, boy, fuck off, you know. She's very distant and she's not really a main player in the show. It's way more about the former couple, you know, their battles.
Starting point is 00:18:01 And, like, so was Charles banging Camilla the whole time? Yeah, basically, yeah. Yeah, and do they go into that much? Like, how? In the show, yeah, we've got it all through the whole journey to them, like, as kids and all that. And, like, it was basically in a range marriage with him and Diana. Diana is a way better family way better looking
Starting point is 00:18:20 like literally better looking for the public and all that good PR and all those things wasn't Camilla Barron was not a thing or did somebody just I don't know
Starting point is 00:18:27 I think that's something you said a few minutes to go out well no well it's definitely not me but like they never had kids no
Starting point is 00:18:33 no Charles and Camilla never had kids no no okay but I'm not sure what the what the story
Starting point is 00:18:40 is it not Barron most likely she's got a fanny like a cold shade just dark and empty and nothing
Starting point is 00:18:47 and warm or happy in it, you know? But the second episode is where the public finds out about the Diana Doddy Al-Fiad stuff, where it's a guy who's a photographer and it's a little bit on the nose now the photographer's like, you know, I am the greatest paparazzo in the world,
Starting point is 00:19:04 I am the hunter and the killer. You know, so like, ah, yeah, we get you, yeah. So he's a picture of her shifting Doddy, Doddy, Doddy, Adi-Al-Fiad, right? And it becomes a big team, it becomes like a huge, it's kind of, even though it's the 90s,
Starting point is 00:19:17 it's pretty not silly naive where like the paper's like oh this is popular you know a former princess
Starting point is 00:19:28 shifting a rich Arab this is kind and then like wait maybe we get more pictures of her we'll sell it for more money and like
Starting point is 00:19:35 the picture her shifting uh dodi becomes like the biggest bidding war in the British press for a picture
Starting point is 00:19:42 a few years is such a change we're like I could look up naked pictures of both Megan Markel and Cape Middleton
Starting point is 00:19:48 Can you? Yeah, the boat being like literally like In the fapening? No, no no I mean like Their boat like
Starting point is 00:19:56 have been taken from white angle lenses Like sunbathing Or top this or all Yeah, I see right So now it's almost like You're trying to Whank to pixelated tits
Starting point is 00:20:04 Like it's 2003 The old nostalgia wank eh Okay, I get it You go fully back in time You have a pixelated picture And like a news footage With the Iraq war In the background
Starting point is 00:20:14 Like I'm back baby Listen to some Dixie chicks and getting angry how dare you talk about my president so this happens okay
Starting point is 00:20:26 and Prince Charles doesn't like it and also the thing where Diana mentions that like he missed one his weekends
Starting point is 00:20:33 with the kids right doing something and Charles is like she'd make me seem like a bad father yeah so he does a kind of
Starting point is 00:20:40 a counter picture then almost like a a PR move where he takes picture with him kissing Camilla and blackfish
Starting point is 00:20:47 Look, I don't understand it either But this is what we have to do Sorry, what are you going to say Just like, take the picture of him With the kids, you know, a very wholesome picture Like they're skipping stones A pond, you know So it's kind of like she's like a trashy mother
Starting point is 00:21:01 And he's the stable dad Exactly right there, yeah He's... Oh, I know how to discredit women in the press Believe me Man, not my first rodeo Uh, yeah Stop looking at your phone
Starting point is 00:21:13 Sorry, I'm looking at my notes Sorry No, look, I've written notes No, that's like it's like when you're reading the Bible but you got a hustler magazine in between
Starting point is 00:21:23 I look at my phone but I've got a hustler in front of the phone You're just called like an only fan Yeah, whatever, okay Also they mentioned one very quickly
Starting point is 00:21:34 I was like No way, go back to that that Diana's really upset about this because like you said it's making it look like a hussy So she starts flying around the UK
Starting point is 00:21:42 in a helicopter talking to psychics Huh They kind of just mentioned that like Diane's a bit odd isn't she psychics
Starting point is 00:21:49 psychics yeah really yeah so she goes to them she's like what do they mean they're like oh the orb
Starting point is 00:21:55 tells me you're a hooer you love pipe don't you yeah that's something they should have got into more
Starting point is 00:22:03 the mystic side of Diana yeah I mean chicks fuck with psychics though don't say
Starting point is 00:22:09 ladies they do they like they like all down here's saying what Diana is she was not
Starting point is 00:22:14 none of these people are normal human beings They have not been... Women? Yes. Well, you heard it in there, Brian O'Toole.
Starting point is 00:22:22 They all fly helicopters, all... And kiss Muslims. Yeah. No, I'm just saying like, like all these, like, Diana, even if they're not directly royal, they're all in these, like, kind of crazy rich families. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They have no... Very elitist.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Yeah, they haven't been civilized properly, all right? Yeah. You're just watching these people that I saw kind of man children. So, like, you know, Prince Charles... probably has, like, is just an internal teenager, you know? Like, he probably only kind of, he's only, when his mother died, he probably is, now he's like a 25 year old, you know, like that, like mentally, you know? Like, he's just going to college for the first time.
Starting point is 00:23:00 He's, he's, like, 78 years old with big sausage fingers. What is that about? What is that condition called? You're asking me, I don't, I don't know. Is it like hypotension or something? But his fingers are disgusted. Yeah, he's got the bends, basically. Yeah, there's something wrong.
Starting point is 00:23:16 Yeah, but it's something fucked up. But like, same with Diana. So like, you know, Diana, even though she's like a mother in this, you know, she's basically like a rebellious teenager still, you know. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so it's like, you know, she's going through weird psychic phases, you know. I'm trying to defend her. Listen to Green Day and stuff, you know.
Starting point is 00:23:33 She's just Duran Duran. Oh. Yeah, as I'm watching Jumanji. That's a cry for help out there. You watch him. I haven't seen Jumanji in a long time, but maybe I'll go back to it. I think, yeah. And you're like, oh, I'm like Princess Diana.
Starting point is 00:23:47 I hope. Maybe I'll go for a spin. Just pick up a random Muslim guy. Probably just pick up a kebab. Close enough. I can fit the whole thing in my mouth. Gobble, gobble. Anyway.
Starting point is 00:24:05 So now here's the thing. We move on to episode three. Right. And we'll get to some glaring stuff for the man. I'm just setting the table here. Yeah. Episode three, I found it incredibly tedious because it's all set in Paris. Okay.
Starting point is 00:24:21 Okay. And it's about her and Dobie going in Paris, eating. There's no other cast members in it really. It might be here. It's just about them. So it's like their last night together. Yeah, yeah. And even like the guy who plays Muhammad al-Fiad is actually very good in this.
Starting point is 00:24:38 He's the dad. Yeah. And I hope they recreate it when he appears on the Ali G show. I really hope. that's when Britain really changed That's when it peaked right there That's the apex of British culture That'd be so funny if they have like a recreate that scene
Starting point is 00:24:55 But they get like some really like distinguished Like a really distinguished like a Who would they get to play like Ali G Like Sasha Barricone Benedict Cumberbatch Yeah that perfect Yeah they're Cumberbatch to play Ali G Who yaka Shah
Starting point is 00:25:10 Yeah But anyway the point is I'm a little bit with him and that's great, you know, but it's mostly just them talking about being a couple. It's all this stuff we've seen on the crown a lot of times
Starting point is 00:25:19 like, isn't it so hard to be reached but, oh, but we don't know life and all the responsibility we have as public figures and all that but I want to be free but you know, all this.
Starting point is 00:25:31 Yeah. Then they get in a car and they drive in a tunnel and we hear crash noise the end. Oh, we don't even get to see it. That's, yeah, that's the end of episode three.
Starting point is 00:25:39 Fuck. Right there. But episode four is the debt. Right. They do, some stuff I liked in this and some stuff I didn't like. Okay. Now one thing I didn't like is
Starting point is 00:25:50 they do this thing that they're doing things, doing movies and shows I always noticed I don't like it recently but they do it where like they'd be like kids, there's something else to tell you it's your mother, she's and then it's silent and it's just
Starting point is 00:26:06 their reaction like their face is like oh and then they play like sad music. Yeah. I don't like that I like to actually see like she's dead And they go, what, father, what? You know, like, uh... She popped the bloody clogs. She fucking, she's dead, right?
Starting point is 00:26:21 And they do this, like, multiple times in the episode. It's like, Your Majesty is Princess Diana. She's, and then, like, just the scene is... She's what? She's converted to Islam? Ah, kind of, in a way, I suppose. Yeah. And, and, um, the big thing that people make it fun of it online is, they do ghosts in this.
Starting point is 00:26:43 ghosts there's ghosts in this are you serious yeah so let's say man what the fuck let's say it's prince charles goes to the hospital in France to see her
Starting point is 00:26:54 he's like oh no he gets in a plane he's like oh all of Paris is shut down because of you yes I know
Starting point is 00:27:04 and she's on the plane as well she had a plane as well and she's like you know oh something kind of like very basic where it's like, look, we never
Starting point is 00:27:15 really were meant to be together, but we did one great thing, or should I say, two great things, the children. Even though that other one's not yours, but anyway, you know, let's not let it slip. Let's not split red hairs, huh? Ooh, I let it slip.
Starting point is 00:27:31 But yeah, it's like, the children are the most important thing. Look after them, Charles. Yeah. Make sure they never marry the wrong sort. if you know what I'm here
Starting point is 00:27:44 and then they have Muhammad Alfayad, okay he's sad about sun dying his son died instantly I didn't I forgot this now the son died instantly
Starting point is 00:27:53 all right then they have him show up and he's like was I a good father he's like yes father you were and
Starting point is 00:28:00 did I put too much pressure on you yes but that made me stronger evidently not yeah and then they have the queen at the end
Starting point is 00:28:10 though right maybe you should have took a minute to teach him about seatbelt etiquette you know the queen at the end is like oh what to do what to do and the Diana shows up again
Starting point is 00:28:21 and she's like you know the most important thing is the Great Britain and then she fades away that's retarded it's pretty bad like even if they did it were it was a ghost but she was silent
Starting point is 00:28:34 yeah that'd be one thing or just have them look at that picture yeah yeah but the fact that she's there and talking it's very hard to take a seriously and they're really trying to like give everyone gets like their last words with Diana and Diana saying like these very you know thoughtful things like you know like
Starting point is 00:28:48 the children it's all about the children it's hard to take a leaf out of your brother's book and focus on the little key oh yeah it just comes off really stupid yeah I was defending a show I was like watching show being like hey it's not too bad sure I didn't like the power of stuff
Starting point is 00:29:06 but maybe maybe I'm in the wrong you know maybe I'm too cynical but then the ghost showed up and they're like, ah, okay. And now there's going to be like a probably a spin-off series where it's like, Diana the ghost detective, you know?
Starting point is 00:29:25 With, uh, yeah, Moldering Scully and Diana. The ghost whisper. It's Jennifer Love's huge tapes and Princess Diana. Solving spooky mysteries. I'm wondering what the next, so like there's 10 episodes all together. We've only got four.
Starting point is 00:29:38 Diana's dead and it seems like they kind of wrapped it all up where they had the funeral. and it's like you know it seems like everyone's just moved on already like one episode of them be like oh Diana's dead we're sad well we must move forward and look towards the future
Starting point is 00:29:52 but keep her inside us at all times and let's not forget that Titanic's coming out in a few months that'll be good the new Oasis album come on stiff up a lip let's go
Starting point is 00:30:06 Leo yeah yeah I'm wonder what you're going to do? What are big events could they do? I think they're going, it's the last season it's going to do now to the present. 9-11? What are they going to have to...
Starting point is 00:30:19 But the Iraq war then, and, you know... Yeah, but they didn't have any patterned that? I'm trying to think what... Really, Brian? Oh, yes, really? Oh my gosh. Prince Philip was driving the plane. Oh, let me bask in this wonderful moment of your sweet
Starting point is 00:30:36 childlike innocence and naivit. I really have an angle file aren't I'm like nobody didn't but I don't know like they are you know Iraq war and all that shit but Tony Blair like the Prime Minister has to consult with the Queen every week yeah you're right actually yeah you're right
Starting point is 00:30:53 I was mocking you there I was yeah yeah he's touching nerve there yeah so yeah yeah because there's normally that they kind of hit there's like obviously then the 7-7 bombings well you're thing it's not see the show isn't really about the news per se but I'm thinking of what royal
Starting point is 00:31:09 stuff happened Pete Dardy and Peyton Moss Getting off with each other There's a scene where like Mom, Majesty, wake up What is it? I told you not to wake me on this It was urgent
Starting point is 00:31:22 Pete Dordy Well, she's not right for him He's a bloody Roggan He's on the gear for coach sake What about Saville? Do you ever talk about Savo? No, they don't. Saville met her every week
Starting point is 00:31:39 Like the problem is? now then. If they got Coogan back for the little cameo and Samel, that'd be how he's a little fun for the real fans I guess you know.
Starting point is 00:31:46 Well no because Charles and Saville were good mates he was like didn't Saville try to during the initial divorce he tried to like mended bridges between Diana John.
Starting point is 00:31:55 Yeah, yeah he was gone So you keep looking at me like I'm a retard to bring it up this stuff I think you're kind of putting stuff on me there right. Your eyes said it though
Starting point is 00:32:05 I'm thinking more like your wonky retarded eyes said it yeah that's all we have to say about the crown right there I mean yeah
Starting point is 00:32:13 well I'll like that I will watch more if you were to hazard a guess what would you say or think well I was
Starting point is 00:32:18 asking you I can't I can't well my answers were not uh I'm just thinking
Starting point is 00:32:25 like in their lives yeah there's like the the marriage of course of him and um
Starting point is 00:32:32 what's their face Camilla yeah and then there's no there's no real deaths or the queen mother dies
Starting point is 00:32:37 I think at once they then they have like the jubilee of a jubilee I don't really end with like her Jubilee and then like a scene where like the queen died in
Starting point is 00:32:45 22. When did she die 22? Was it 22 or 23? I don't know. Who does? She died but her legacy lives on. Yeah. They'll be something like that right there. And then just one last shot of Andrew in a pizza express. Oh no. They've rambled me.
Starting point is 00:33:04 But her legacy lives on. And Prince, I was like, yeah. Let's have it, boys. Millwall away. Fucking average. So I'll watch the rest of it, but I'm kind of glad. So I'm glad they're not trying to do
Starting point is 00:33:18 like a season about the stuff that we've seen too. Like, you know, they're trying to do like the Harry and Megan kind of stuff. Yeah, that'd be too much. So they've said for definite this is the last season. Last season for sure.
Starting point is 00:33:31 Now, what really got my prick hard is they're looking into doing one about the Kennedys, all right? Oh, yeah. But same the other way of the crown is like this kind of decade-spanning thing they want to do one where it starts off literally like little Joe Kennedy
Starting point is 00:33:45 like you know bootlegging and fucking doing all this shit yeah he was a bootlegger during prohibition right yeah yeah and then cover the whole now if they did that properly be so cool the whole thing but then they fucking stole an election like
Starting point is 00:33:56 yeah yeah and then like you know they give you want the son the firstborn you know Joe's Joe Jr I think yeah he dies in a war dies in a you dies in a war and this fuck up uh second
Starting point is 00:34:09 son becomes the president with a bad back and the other fuck up son gets shot yeah he's got a bad back and a great cock yeah by all the counts and like then go to the whole I wonder then how far would they go would they go up to RFK yeah they've got so much debt
Starting point is 00:34:26 then they can do Cheryl Hines plays herself yeah and like season four then they can have like that one who like crashed the plane and all that oh yeah he literally was just driving down yeah he didn't know which way to go because it was foggy
Starting point is 00:34:39 and he was like probably this direction yeah there's a lot you can do there JFK Jr we covered the candies before
Starting point is 00:34:49 but I'd love to see a proper dramatization of that that just shows how scummy those Irish mix were yeah like they were proper
Starting point is 00:34:56 like they fucking that's what you want though you want it to be proper like you know show them at their worst see I think the crown
Starting point is 00:35:02 the criticism people do aim at it is because Pierce Morgan is Peter Morgan Peter Morgan yeah Pierce Morgan is worse Peter Morgan is
Starting point is 00:35:10 He does love this stuff Like he's written all He's written so much about the royal family I think if you spend your life writing about it You kind of get an appreciation for it You know Sure yeah Yeah like he's definitely been invited
Starting point is 00:35:23 To fancy parties And I know like a lot of royals don't like the show But yes Yeah It's kind of they They definitely still like Run the same circles Like he's a very rich man
Starting point is 00:35:32 I imagine like Charles is such an idiot He's watching week to week I wonder what's gonna happen next week Charles, this happened to you you fucking idiot Don't know spoilers hashtag spoiler Will I end up fucking Diana again
Starting point is 00:35:47 But do you want to move on then To the killer Yeah so let's do the killer Okay yeah perfect So the killer there is the new Fincher movie A David Fincher joint Yeah
Starting point is 00:36:01 Now I was thinking I was trying to rank My Fincher movies Okay But there's a lot of them I don't really love Well, not don't like, but he's, he's a very, he's a long career of stuff, and a lot of it, I haven't, like, I've never seen the girl with a dragon tattoo.
Starting point is 00:36:17 Have it not? No. It's good. Is it good, is it? I've never seen the curious case of Benjamin Button. I've never seen that. Yeah, I've watched Alien Tree, but I think I, I didn't remember, I don't remember watching.
Starting point is 00:36:26 I mean, nobody, he, even he says that shite, like, you know, he had no control. Yeah, he had no control. Some good videos of him going mental and sit. Let's venture alone. Yeah, right, yeah, yeah. Show him respect. Don't disrespect, man, man.
Starting point is 00:36:37 I haven't seen Mank actually Yeah Manco is thinking Going back to Yeah You might be more interesting To go back to it It's so
Starting point is 00:36:45 It's not what I'm expecting I thought it's gonna be A lot about his relationship Orson Wells for example Yeah Orson Wells is like Fucking like two scenes One of them is a phone call scene
Starting point is 00:36:55 You know It's more about Mank Wander around being drunk And Drunk and sad Yeah Yeah I get enough of that at home
Starting point is 00:37:03 You know But like I need It's not what I expect See, also, because I watched a movie about the making of Citizen Kane called RKO-180, I think. It's a HBO movie. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With Liv, Shriver, and John Malkovich's Mank. Nice.
Starting point is 00:37:19 That's a really good movie. So I watched that beforehand. I was, again, I had the curse of a comparison. Yeah, I was just like, this is not John Malkovich. I'm calling the police. Where's Leav Schreiber? Gary Oldman isn't Jewish. I'm pretty sure.
Starting point is 00:37:36 Yeah. So, okay, so out of the ones that you have seen, what, I mean, I think... Obviously, it's like social network, fight clubs seven, I think. Zodiac? Oh, Zodiac. I love Zodiac, yeah. So it's four there that I fucking love, you know? And everything, it's like, that's the top tier and everything else is below that right there.
Starting point is 00:37:53 You know, I'm not going to put gone girls top tier, you know? No. So one made a very good point about Fincher, where Fincher, he is not the autour. You know, like, he's not the, like, Tarantino writes some scripts. Yeah. Scorsese, he's very, much, like, heavily involved in script and process and all that. Whereas Fincher is just a director, and he always brings a screenwriter on. Yeah, but also, he's, he's very, like, almost like a hired gun where he's like, what's this book?
Starting point is 00:38:20 Yeah, I'll do that. Like, popular book, I'll do it, but I'll do it. I'll make it a Fincher movie. Like, you, like, you know, like, Gone Girl and Girl Draking the Two, both, like, books that, like, you walk into any airport book shop, they're the number one book there, okay? Yeah. It's almost like he's like, I'm going to take this thing, these kind of trashy stories like... The dumb women like... And Brian.
Starting point is 00:38:41 And I'm reading it like, oh my gosh. Girl, you best get gone. He don't deserve you, girl. I hope Ben Affleck plays him in the movie. It's giving Affleck. Yeah. But then it's like, but I'm going to make it a Fincher movie. Like it's his style.
Starting point is 00:39:00 He's got a very distinct style. Do you watch a Fincher movie and you know it very quickly? Yeah, yeah, it's a little dark. Oh, it's probably him then, isn't it? And even, like, the killer. But, you know, like, you watch the killer. Being facetious there. David Vitcher's great.
Starting point is 00:39:14 Yeah, he is. Yeah, you're like... But it's still fun to be like, yeah, suck my pecker, dork. Yeah. So, I know, I'm talking, I'm over talking there. What did you think about the killer, new joint? I, I mean, I liked it a lot. But it didn't fucking blow me away, I got to say, you know.
Starting point is 00:39:33 Yeah, I didn't blow me away. Yeah, it was good. I enjoyed it. You know, it's a very, you know, it's well made, it's competently made. It's very well-paced. Like, I was never bored. I was into it the whole time. And I did pick up on some, you know, of the sort of whatever, the subtext or the cerebral elements. But for the most part, it's, there's not, doesn't seem to be that much depth to it, I don't think. No, I wonder why you picked it. Why do you think, because it's based on a popular graphic novel in France. it's not very popular in the English-speaking world and then also it's just so similar to the likes of John Wick and taken where it's just like badass dude who'll do whatever it takes
Starting point is 00:40:16 and you know blah we're going to spoil this by the way yeah yeah so my thing I was annoyed about is so in the comics he's very sigma he's very like to himself no girlfriend and he's got almost like a kind of samurai way of life
Starting point is 00:40:30 like do the job get the money have sex with the child and leave Don't overthink it, all right? This is not your life, it's just your job. It's like that. Almost like, like, you know, he treats it like a job, right? Yeah. And, you know, if, like, even like in the comics, I remember one stage, like, you know,
Starting point is 00:40:46 one of my first hits that someone saw, I had to kill him. You know, these things happen, you know, I was sloppy, you know, get better, move on. You know, it's like that. He's very, he's not like, you know, oh, to be a killer. Yeah. Oh, what is this life? Oh, I am so steeped in blood. thou doesn't he's not like that he's just like it's a job he's that's saying he's very methodical
Starting point is 00:41:08 he's very cold he has an ethos it's like uh do what thou wilt that shall be law which is actually an alister crowley quote i believe makes sense yeah crowley was cool yeah i think he fucked a donkey or maybe i did i can't remember one no he was but that it's interesting because yeah do what thou wilt thou shall be law or whatever the fuck that is basically alister crowley saying give in to your bass or desires do whatever the fuck you want and who cares that's not really the ethos of
Starting point is 00:41:40 his character he's like this is a job this is what has to be done i take no pleasure in it i'm just clocking in pull the trigger and leaving you know well one thing i liked about the movie is one thing is like he is a little bit of uh
Starting point is 00:41:54 he's a bit of fuck up yeah he's not you know what's funny is normally these movies you show him doing some successful hits yeah and then one goes wrong. It's the very first one. He's just like, yeah, the whole voiceover's like, I'm really good at this. I'm actually so good. Oh no, I
Starting point is 00:42:10 fuck it off. Oh, no. If you look back on it, it's funny because it is like, I had to go back and look, it's like a 20 minute scene at the start. Of him like waiting going McDonald's. It's all about the patience, all right? Yeah, and like stalking the prey. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The razor like he's counting, his
Starting point is 00:42:26 heartbeat, he's doing all this stuff. He's listed to the Smiths. Yeah, all this stuff to make you a better person. A consummate professional. And then he fucks up straight away Yeah, yeah Throughout the movie He does things
Starting point is 00:42:37 And sometimes they work And sometimes they don't Like again When you know when he I'm movie movie laugh You know when he like shoots The guy in the chest With the nail go
Starting point is 00:42:45 Yeah And he's like Okay Do you have my calculations here You should have one minute Left to live Oh shit He just dies
Starting point is 00:42:51 Hey Hey wake up You idiot You I'm supposed to die yet My calculations Yeah you're right So it kind of shows The human error
Starting point is 00:43:01 aspect of it, which is something you never really get to see with these again with a John Wick type where he's just like almost super human in his abilities whereas he is not that he's very good at what he does, but mistakes happen, you know? Which is another thing in the comic
Starting point is 00:43:17 that they do show some point. I haven't read all, is like just about six volumes but um... And you haven't read them all? I haven't done. For fuck sake, man. Do you even care about this anymore? He's watching cheers, aren't you? That's it. You're banned from cheers. No more Cliff Claving for you, Brian. But I need
Starting point is 00:43:33 it. But yeah so that is the thing in that where he does make mistakes and he has to power through it sometimes. Yeah. I don't know if I would like to see more of the killer, the character. Yes. I would like see more of this. I mean, you know, like.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Because I didn't really like the ending. The ending is a big thing I didn't like. We'll get to the ending later on. But I thought the ending was pretty anticlimactic. Okay, well, just so the whole thing is it starts on with him doing a hit. He botches the hit. And now there are a reaper So the people that hired him have like basically gone about to rectify this mistake by killing him or people that he cares about.
Starting point is 00:44:09 Yeah, basically wiping the record clean. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So now he has to, so he's got a girlfriend in South America. Which I didn't like. Okay. You shouldn't have a girlfriend. You're right. That's gay.
Starting point is 00:44:20 Yeah. Well, also like in the comics. He's very distant. He has one nice dance and he leaves. Yeah. You know, he doesn't, no attachments. It's all about the coming and going. It's no attachment.
Starting point is 00:44:31 are weak you know what they said heat yeah you know I forget things that I forget what they said but something about like when the police are coming you better run away fast you better come quick
Starting point is 00:44:41 and get out of there you better be ready to judge within 30 seconds if you'll feel the heat coming around the corner when they're jizzing around the corner you bet but anyway
Starting point is 00:44:53 for me the action is the jizz so yeah so he his girlfriend then gets so other contract killers or heavies. They don't kill her
Starting point is 00:45:07 but they beat her within an inch for her life. Is it implied that she gets raped? I don't think so. I think it is. Even that, like why would they leave her alive?
Starting point is 00:45:16 Yeah, true. All that stuff there. I didn't like any of that. Yeah. There is a lot of things. That felt like a little bit like because I like the comic because it's so almost
Starting point is 00:45:23 like anti all that stuff. There isn't a love interest. He has no sympathetic qualities. There is. isn't like, you know, but there's a little kid and he helps a little kid to ride a bicycle when he's not killing people. There's none of that.
Starting point is 00:45:38 And then this, they're like, okay, we have to give him a girlfriend. And now, now that's motivation. It's not just selfish. No, no, I didn't. That's what I'm saying, yeah. It's just, I would prefer if it's like, oh, trying to kill me, I got to kill them.
Starting point is 00:45:49 That's it, you know. And it would be way better as well, okay? If it ended with him, like, winning, and just him sitting in his gaff, being like, yeah, I rule. That's it. I totally. rule.
Starting point is 00:46:01 Yeah, you know, if it was that, he's wearing a Charlie Sheen t-shirt winning. That would have been a way better ending, I think, if it's just like, thinking it's like, he's done all this, okay, and now he's, he's won, and he's just a lonely guy, almost like the start
Starting point is 00:46:15 of the film. He's a lonely guy still just eating McDonald's and living, like, living in a wee work, you know? I would like that way more as an ending there. But, hey, look, what do I know? I'm just a guy with a dream. Yeah, I mean, again, it's not, you know,
Starting point is 00:46:28 it's definitely not going to go down as one of his, best or most iconic. It's somewhat forgetable. And like, I've heard people make the argument as like, if you think that, it's because you don't fully understand it. Who's saying this? Just dipshits on Reddit. You know what?
Starting point is 00:46:45 This is why you shouldn't be on Reddit, man. Oh, I, I knew. Because you never go on Reddit, do you? No, no, but I can handle it, you know? Yeah, all right. Man, I'm not the one is like, if you see one thing on Twitter, you're like upset for a week and a half. You know, like, visit, like, you know, your blood pressure changes.
Starting point is 00:47:05 It has physiological effects. I'm counting on my heart rate. I was like, no, I can't shoot anyone now. But, um, okay, so one aspect of this, I did notice a lot of product placement. We see a lot of, like, a company, like McDonald's, we work, Starbucks. I want to say it's product placement. Not product placement, but it's just, it's a lot of companies. So I was kind of thinking maybe is the whole sort of allegory of like the,
Starting point is 00:47:31 hired killer or kind of like you know oh it's just like corporations they're the real killers or something stupid like that
Starting point is 00:47:39 you know you know what I think as well like the main character the killer he does talk a lot like Ed Norton
Starting point is 00:47:46 there's a lot like that kind of monolog like you know these people eating McDonald's yeah I am
Starting point is 00:47:51 I'm above this because I can narrate things and it's kind of like it's like the men it's always been
Starting point is 00:47:58 the will of law that the few rule and the many. Yeah, the kind of guys and kind of drools. Be the few,
Starting point is 00:48:06 one of the few or one of the many. Yeah, yeah. It's kind of like if a very, like he's a very stereotypical Fincher character. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:48:14 and it's obviously the screenplay is by the dude who wrote seven as well. Yeah, yeah. So it's got that real like, you know, cynicism, just like,
Starting point is 00:48:22 yeah, this world is such a toilet. Make sure you don't get flushed away with the other turds. Yeah. You're all turds.
Starting point is 00:48:32 I feel like, you know, the ending where he's, like, kind of like, you know, basically like, I win. Do you have what it takes to be as cool as me? Yeah, yeah. I think that was a little bit of an indictment to kind of like, you know, like, you taught this guy was cool, did you? Oh, right. Yeah, I thought a little bit like that. Same way, like, not the movie wanted. Okay, you know, the movie wanted.
Starting point is 00:48:53 Yeah. Not that. Okay. That movie was based on a comic book. Right. All right. And the comic book's very different. The comic books all by superheroes.
Starting point is 00:49:00 Okay. So you know in the movie It's a secret society of assassins In the comic They're actually supervillains Okay Same kind of basic friends But also in the
Starting point is 00:49:11 In the comic Like he's a rapist The point is like In that he's like Full on like he just becomes evil All right And he's like You know
Starting point is 00:49:20 They say like I raped a well-known celebrity Who got nominated for an actress Last year It was awesome Jesus And they just cover it up You know
Starting point is 00:49:27 Wow And he's like killing children And stuff Damn and it's like how awesome he is but then at the end it literally he breaks the fort walls
Starting point is 00:49:35 like you guys like that you read six issues of this you freak yeah like fuck you oh what that ends of him saying fuck you he gives a middle finger
Starting point is 00:49:46 to the reader that's good okay good good you're like no no he quit on me uh yeah no that's uh I don't know
Starting point is 00:49:56 that's a real like dumb like break the fourth walls like oh what turns out the biggest loser is you no i don't know i didn't need that i don't like i was already having a bad day no i don't like i also hate that thing it's like you enjoy the art yeah yeah yeah you enjoy this imagine enjoying a show about a guy who kills people that's never been done before yeah yeah yeah yeah uh anyway um what else with the killer i like the fight scene in florida i thought that was good with the big muscle dude yeah yeah that was the most kind of
Starting point is 00:50:27 john wick just like action scene just balls to the wall yeah I liked as well Fincher Not Fincher What's his name Michael Fastbender? Fastbender, yeah He could
Starting point is 00:50:39 He should have died About nine times During that fight That guy was whacking him Yeah Yeah, he was whacked him The bits Like, I felt the pain
Starting point is 00:50:47 Okay Yeah, yeah I felt very visceral That fight scene It was, yeah It was very well done And when that dog Goes through the glass
Starting point is 00:50:52 I was like fuck Yeah Yeah, yeah Yeah, yeah I like that bit I like Tilda Swinton stuff I liked the kind of
Starting point is 00:50:59 change in pace with that. Yeah, and then the little story about the hunter. Yeah. Or, well, it's a joke, isn't it? Oh, I believe. It's a joker way of life. Yeah, no, look, it is good, but yeah, it didn't blow me away, you know.
Starting point is 00:51:17 But as you, would you like to see a killer two? Yeah. Yeah? Of course, yeah, I liked him. What would he do? Would he kill more people? It would be an adaptation of the second killer book. Okay. And then an adaptation of the third killer book.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Have you read the source material? I have told, no, I'll be honest with you. I haven't now, but apparently it's good. Okay. It gets better and better. I hear it's good. And I would like to... I don't know.
Starting point is 00:51:39 I'd rather see... If Fincher's going to do a new film, I'd like to see him do something a bit different. I don't know. It's weird. Just all of the elements when I was presented with them initially is like, it's Fincher, it's the screenwriter of seven. It's Michael Fastbender as a, you know, contract killer.
Starting point is 00:51:59 I don't know. it just there was a lot of promise and it felt like it underdelivered or something. What do you think
Starting point is 00:52:05 about the ending? Yeah, I mean... I thought it was very anti the whole thing was like he just meets the guy and I didn't like
Starting point is 00:52:11 as well he's like he's like a kind of tech guy as it just felt like a lazy kind of parody of like tech in general not even like of a
Starting point is 00:52:19 particular person it wasn't like it wasn't like a one to one parody of a musk or I don't know a Wazniak or something like that
Starting point is 00:52:27 it was just like general kind of tech guys are kind of fat white guys he's like don't don't kill me because I'm the killer and he wasn't fat though he was pretty small and scrawny okay well there's loser bald yeah it's loser
Starting point is 00:52:40 loser white guy yeah it's like just some loser guy all right right who's like a bit of an asshole yeah yeah and then like he's like don't kill me because I'm the killer so I'll kill you and he's like okay you'll be left alone he goes good the end I would like if
Starting point is 00:52:55 he goes in and he just discovers some weird shit going on like It's like, you know what? I would wish they went for like full kill list almost and he goes into the guy's apartment and it's like a kind of proper like baby sacrifice going on
Starting point is 00:53:07 or something like really weird he stumbles into this like thing and it's like he actually kind of stopped this evil cabal by accident. He's like oh shit and then like they're like well you save the day
Starting point is 00:53:17 he's like a fuck off just shoots the other person runs away you know I would like a bit extra cherry on top I tell you I did get a chuckle when he broke that old Bin's neck and she went down the stairs
Starting point is 00:53:29 Yeah, yeah That was funny That was a That was a good laugh I thought it was pretty traumatic to be honest Oh Because I was like
Starting point is 00:53:35 This poor woman Yeah But that was It's good because You know He's the protagonist And she was a very sympathetic character
Starting point is 00:53:45 Yeah That's more like the comic Yeah More the comic Where the It's a real kind of like Oh shit When he just like
Starting point is 00:53:52 Snaps her net You know It's great I liked his diet As well Diet was fun You know Weird diet
Starting point is 00:53:56 He was like I want to eat that You know the McDonald's where you take the buns and throw them in the bin? Yeah. I want to do that. That'll look cool. And once they're just eating a raw egg
Starting point is 00:54:05 and drinking coffee. Yeah, he's very... It's got 12 grams of protein. Yeah, yeah, weird. I did like as well... What about the condiments, Michael Padsbender? Well, hot sauce. I liked...
Starting point is 00:54:20 For a lot of it, it felt almost like a video game where he's whittem the whole time. Yeah, yeah. See him in the place, the wee work. Getting in the, going off on the bike, going to the airport, getting ready in the airport, you know, seeing a weird guy, not getting on the plane because he's freaked out, staying in the hotel. Yeah. You're just really going A to B to C to D.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Yes, there was like a methodical element to it. Which Fincher is known for being very methodical, even just the way he makes movies. Yeah, he does like loads of fucking takes. Here's one thing, and I'm not, I don't even know, it's just something I notice, but like, so he has various. aliases throughout there. But, like, they're all of, like, pretty well-known characters. Like, there's one that's George Jefferson.
Starting point is 00:55:07 Is there? There's one that's Felix Unger. Who's there? From the odd couple. Jack is Walter Matow and... Oh, shit. Jack Lemon. Yeah, yeah, I didn't realize that. Oh, fuck. And, like, all the... Like, they're all... I'm pretty sure he is
Starting point is 00:55:22 Sam Malo, not one point. As an alias. Fuck. Yeah. That's funny now. Yeah. Oh, actually, I'm surprised I didn't notice that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:32 I think I heard once or twice. I was like, oh, coincidence or like, you know, whatever. Yeah, but like George Jefferson in particular. I think the Jefferson one did pop out with me, but like, yeah, like, there's so much, there's a lot going on my life. Then I was just kind of like, I wonder what, what's the point of that, like, is it just funny? I think the killer, the actual character, probably would think, like, that's fun, that's clever. George Jefferson Like the show
Starting point is 00:55:59 What? No That's my name This says your name is Bill Cosby His name wasn't Bill He's Hoxtable in the show You idiot Oh I've made a mistake again
Starting point is 00:56:12 Huxstable Cosby That he's a black face Yeah we didn't really get to see him Wear any like wacky costumes Or disguises you know It was just hats and shit He just put on I slip in through the shadows in night.
Starting point is 00:56:28 Just wearing a stupid. What do you think is dressed like an astronaut? He's like, oh. Boring a plane, dressed as an astronaut. Ars, shever my timbers. I'm an astronaut. I'm astronaut. Bill Clinton.
Starting point is 00:56:50 I am not a crook. I'm an astronaut. Yeah, I liked it for what it was now Yeah, no, I did enjoy it while I watched it It's well made I think the cinema experience Really heightened my enjoyment of a doll Okay
Starting point is 00:57:02 It was funny watching it A bunch of people who actually wore Invest in it Like it gets your attention Even like these long scenes and that Yes And then like when the fight happened A lot of people were like
Starting point is 00:57:13 Oh God like you know You're getting like reactions to it That was intended It was it was wonderfully paced Even like that You know That sequence where he's in the hotel It's like okay
Starting point is 00:57:24 or like he's getting on the plane but he doesn't like the look of a guy so he just goes to his hotel he's cleaning himself you know it's not like you know it's not particularly exciting but it's just very well shot and you're winning the whole time
Starting point is 00:57:38 yeah you're invested you know yeah like I was never bored I was I was into it the whole time he's never like I said he focused up before but even like when it's going well he's never in like a boring it's never boring how in control he is
Starting point is 00:57:51 he is a bit like oh shit I gotta clean myself again he's never like it's all gone like you know i do hate when there's like a thing where like it's a real like ocean's leavening where something goes wrong like nine things go wrong and then he's like you know the police are after like guess what this is all part of the plan and do a flashback and it's like okay so there's no tension at all like they knew exactly how he's all he's he's plans ahead yeah right but he's still kind of winging it a little bit yeah yeah why uh why the smiths
Starting point is 00:58:24 would you say that's not in the comic yeah why is he just listening to the Smiths he doesn't do a bit too much I thought every single car scene he's playing now I was like
Starting point is 00:58:33 I'm like come on sometimes the same song yeah that was like a little bit I'll at least break it up and have a different song every time yeah what about some
Starting point is 00:58:41 Yeezy or Jack Harlow you know you'll be funny at the very end he's like someone like you know like the tech guy he's walking out
Starting point is 00:58:51 and he finds a Jack Harlow CD he's like oh Oh, this guy's white, but he's pretty cool. And then he's like, my life is complete now. And it ends of him in the gaff, all right, and it turns, as like Jack Harlow's there. He's like, a winning.
Starting point is 00:59:06 And they do a TikTok together. Yeah. So I enjoyed it now for what it was. I wasn't really expecting too much from it. Like I wasn't, I wasn't going in and being like, this is going to be sin and that. Yeah, I don't know. I guess maybe I was hoping for a little bit of that seven,
Starting point is 00:59:23 magic, you know. Oh, well. He's done some good movies now. No, he has, he has. Maybe I will watch Mank again. It's a great cast. You got dance, you got Seafried, you got Oldman. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:33 It's just a little bit too meandering on purpose for my liking. Yeah. And also, I think what hurts is he probably should have got someone to redo the script. Because the whole thing is like, if you don't know, his dad wrote it. Who, Mank's dad? No, no. Fincher's dad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:49 Oh, his dad's a failed screenwriter. Yeah, so it's all, I could. God, that's a real fuck you, isn't it? It's like, hey, dad, you're never at any success. Also, it's something that I kept thinking about when I was watching. I kind of knew too much about it. So it's like, okay, so this guy, whatever, you know, Michael Fincher or whatever like that, he was a failed screenwriter.
Starting point is 01:00:09 He wrote a screenplay about one of the greatest screenwriters ever who doesn't get the respect he deserves. Yeah, it's about like how he's under the shadow of Orson Wells, okay? And then he dies and then his son who's successful does a, You can read too much into that Yeah, okay, yeah It's hard to maybe Like leave that at the door I think when Fincher's making it as well
Starting point is 01:00:32 He's probably like, I can't change this Because of my dad's vision, you know And it's like, just a bit boring Shut up You know what I like about being a screenwriter Tell me Mr. Mag The fact that I know one day my son We'll also be a film guy
Starting point is 01:00:53 person man yes you are correct I'm starting to see why maybe this wasn't picked up no respect he says no respect at all well yeah we're at the hour here we hit the hour yeah yeah so I would
Starting point is 01:01:08 actually would recommend the Crown it's on Netflix fucking you know it's not I'm not you to go out I'm not going to watch it come on live a little watch cheers and the killer again I'll watch cheers but I'm not watching
Starting point is 01:01:22 the Crown it's not a choice it's two or nothing, okay? Well, I'm sorry Watch it on two TVs, one TV were there and one TV were... I mean, because I'm a proud Irishman and Republicans so where I come from, there's
Starting point is 01:01:37 an old saying, better to be a paedophile than an anglophile.

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