Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 219 : Dune Two

Episode Date: March 14, 2024

Mad Sam the Sand Worm...

Transcript
Discussion (0)
Starting point is 00:00:00 You know, it started back in 2014, Brian. I started having trouble. I just like, I just keep... Don't worry, we'll get to Dune. I couldn't even say worse than you talk about your problems. Well, I'm trying to discuss something serious, all right? Don't goofball shit this episode, right? There we go.
Starting point is 00:00:17 We're talking about Dune. Now, some reason, you really don't want to watch Dune, do you? You're hesitant to watch Dune. Yeah. Because Dune, too, at the moment, is like, the biggest thing ever. Yes. It's a cultural moment. You're like the guy who's like, I don't want to watch that.
Starting point is 00:00:30 Wars back in the 70s. I kind of am like that. Yeah. I know. Look, it is a very silly thing to be a well, here's one. I'm not a big sci-fi guy. I've never really been into sci-fi. Is it not? It's about our world. It's about
Starting point is 00:00:45 space worms and yeah. Zandaya is being hot. It's more about politics really. The family drama. As all sci-fi is, of course. And I'm not completely, I don't hate all sci-fi, but I just don't like quite a lot of it.
Starting point is 00:01:01 Okay, well, Dune is very good. Okay, I'm sure it is. I know Deneve Villeneuve Ileneuve is fantastic. Yeah, have you watched any of the other films? I mean, prisoners and, uh, Sicario. Or a Blade Runner. No. Oh, well, then you should watch.
Starting point is 00:01:16 Yeah. You got a lot of work to do, my palo, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh. And I want to watch Going Overboard, the first Adam Sander film where he plays Shecky Moskowitz, an aspiring comedian on a cruise.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Don't worry, Brian. We'll get to. And, yes, Adam said he was actually quite unhappy with the film, but, you know, he considers it to be an important learning. I'm just shaking him at rage. I'm like, oh, I got to talk about Dune. You're like, your nose is starting to bleed. All right, fucking Dune to, here we go.
Starting point is 00:01:54 Let's get Dune to it. Woo-hoo! Yes, okay, yeah. I can accept that. All right. So, do you know what Dune is about basically? Vaguely, but go on. Just give me a recap.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Again, just a real quick recap. It's about the Spice. There's an alien planet called Dune slash Iraqis, all right? And they have the spice. And the spice can do multiple things. It's basically heroin in Iraq, you know. Well, if heroin was also petrol. Oh.
Starting point is 00:02:21 So, yeah, but particularly you put in your car and you can sniff some of it and have a cool time. You can do that with petrol? You can actually, yeah. You can't actually, yeah. Off petrol. It's petrol. It's space petrol. Awesome.
Starting point is 00:02:33 But it's space petrol. And the only oil comes with dinosaurs. Yes. It comes from big worms. Right. All right. So it's a one for one comparison. Okay.
Starting point is 00:02:41 And there's the emperor played by Christopher Walken. Okay. And he has different families under him. And he has these families control the spice planet. Right. So at one stage, the Harconans with the SARS guards. All right. Stella Sarsgarde.
Starting point is 00:02:58 He's this big fat guy. He's like, real, give me more spice. Yeah, because if you do too much of it, it turns you into a big worm thing. It turns you into all sorts of things. It fucks with you, right? You can see the future,
Starting point is 00:03:11 but you kind of get addicted to it. And then eventually, if you take loads of it, you become a proper, like, bleh, kind of space worm kind of nonsense, right? Yeah. So he gives it to Oscar Isaac, his family, the house of Atrehees. Okay.
Starting point is 00:03:24 Right. So it's kind of got a Game of Thrones thing, different houses, different, different families. And he sends fucking Oscar Isaac and his family including little Timitie Chalemain
Starting point is 00:03:36 to the planet Dune. Right. But it's a trap. The Emperor's working with the Harconans with the Sars guards. Right. And they're basically going to kill the Trees family.
Starting point is 00:03:48 They're going to take over the spice and yada, yada, yada. It's a coup. A coup de tar. A political coup. In space. And the first movie to kill Oscar Isaac, you know,
Starting point is 00:03:57 Spoilers. Well, we're spoiling the film, by the way, guys, all right? So they kill Oscar Isaac and little Timmy, all right? Little Timmy Shalameen. Is he, Oscar Isaac was his dad, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's the son. He's left on the planet with his mother and then the sand people, all right?
Starting point is 00:04:15 Oh, this could be dicey. Yeah, yeah. Let's see how he navigates this one, folks. And him and the sand people, all right, have to, in the second film, rise up and destroy the evil empire. And it is basically 9-11, guys. You are supporting 9-11 this film. 9-11 in space.
Starting point is 00:04:35 And it feels so good, Matt. It literally is like they're taking the oil, all right? It's oil wars, okay? It's so, it's so, like, precedent, okay, that what was going on. So in this film, Timothy leads a jihad. Literally, it's a jihad, okay? It's called a jihad. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:53 Do they call it that in the movie or did they change it? Not in the book, it's jihad. in this is called the Holy War Perfuffle No it's called I'm leading the kerfuffle It's the troubles Yeah space troubles
Starting point is 00:05:04 I can't over that door space now will you, they're a good lad Aye You turn into a big war I'm there ain't Which just apropos and non for a minute right I'll listen to war mode
Starting point is 00:05:16 Yes And they've suddenly discovered The troubles Yes It's funny no offence to them But I love hearing Americans and English people Just finding about the troubles
Starting point is 00:05:24 They're like Dude that was like really bad You guys are probably really miffed about that It's probably a real bummer He came over to Ireland And he went to Belfast and Derry And he interviewed like ex-H block prisoners And the blanket man
Starting point is 00:05:40 Like he really He put the work in He made an effort I just mean like in general I talk to all these people okay And there's like Whoa I guess I wouldn't be happy Man if they killed my family
Starting point is 00:05:50 I'd be like super pissed off man I'd be like this is some BS Man if I was in Hunger Strike I'd be so freaking hungry Yo dude I can't go on hunger strike If I got the munchies And you know I'm gonna be blazing
Starting point is 00:06:05 What about Bobby Sands Goes to White Castle I could I got the 30 Sliders There place 12 French phrase And six counties back You can't And Neil Patrick Harris comes in
Starting point is 00:06:22 Hey I'm gonna Jock off for whatever I can't remember the movie I'm writing yourself, lad I was talking to one guy from England, okay? He's like, oh, I'm from Birmingham and I'll tell you, oh,
Starting point is 00:06:36 if I've seen that, oh, I would have been radicalised. If I was there, I would join the IRA. Oh, I would have been so angry. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, fuck off, yeah. I'd have to be like, uh, thanks, man, thanks for support, you know.
Starting point is 00:06:50 I'll let the guy, the boys know. That's the Irish equivalent of I would have voted for Obama a third time. Yeah, basically. Yeah, he's like, oh, cheers, Paul. That means a lot. So it's Paul, that's his name in the film, Paul, okay, leading a jihad. Right.
Starting point is 00:07:09 And the whole thing is, they see him. And you know the first film people say it's a white saviour movie. People are like, because it's all about, oh, so people accused the first one, people hadn't read the book of being a white savior film because all these sand people and they're kind of all. Then Timothy Shalame is like, pleading. white. Timmy Shalameen is white and the sand people normally of the trade is like a black or Arab or
Starting point is 00:07:31 is he non-white. Is Zendaya one of the sand people? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're called the Fremen. The fremen? Yeah. Oh, yeah. You could have said that. Lead with that. You said sand people like 30 times. I'm sweating over here. The fremen. Yeah, and that's basically literally called the free men. So they didn't want to be part of these houses, you know, the house, the Trehees or So they just went to this planet and they live nomadic.
Starting point is 00:07:56 Right. So they live on a planet full of fucking sandworms, man. But they know how to get around the sandworms. They didn't know how to, the little place to go. They have little these little holes to go into, you know. Like tunnels. They got burrows. Kind of like we talk about Gaza.
Starting point is 00:08:11 Like there's like Darkonans. Yeah. Like Israel and they're like, we got to get those because there's all these little holes. They didn't know how many freemen are in there. Okay. Yeah. And they're hiding. They're planning something.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Yes. So it's basically. Timney Chalemain joins Hamas all right Okay Yeah now I got your interest And they are like You are the Messiah
Starting point is 00:08:32 But here's the thing They think is Messiah Because his mother Is a part of evil Space Nuns And there's a very healthy message in this film Of do not trust women
Starting point is 00:08:44 Okay Women are not trustworthy In this film Okay Awesome So there's a group called the Betty Jesuits They're space nerds
Starting point is 00:08:52 And they play the long game, all right? They're like the incels? Yeah, no. Hors. Worse won't let me fuck. They're lady in cells. They're right, no. No, they're basically, they're pulling the string.
Starting point is 00:09:04 Fem cells, that's what they're called, by the way. Are they? Yeah. Jeez, you know your stuff. I'm too gay to know about that. I'm like, they're ladies. Queens. But basically, the Benny Jessuits
Starting point is 00:09:16 have, Dave, so, like, over a course of years, they've been telling the Fremen about, like, oh there's Messiah coming he'll be white oh watch out because they want to so they know religions go by to control people so but you're saying they're all like we worship you
Starting point is 00:09:32 we worship you Paul uh we worship you we worship you he's like guys guys I'm not the Messiah please it's basically fucking life of Brian he's like yeah and he's like you know I'm not the Messiah and they're like the Messiah is so humble he's like uh oh yo dead ass guys I'm like not the Messiah
Starting point is 00:09:50 and shit so y'all tripping Like, I appreciate the flowers and whatnot, but... So you talk like that? No, he does not. He talks real stoic. Oh, really? And, like, he's very good, though. He's very good of fighting.
Starting point is 00:10:02 He can ride the worm. And it's an awesome scene. So you have to get on the back of a worm. So you have to jump on the back of a worm and just hang on. And then you have these things you get, like, it's kind of described, because you're going to take it stupid, James. No. There are little things you shoot out, all right?
Starting point is 00:10:17 And you can, like, harnesses, and you can ride the worm. Right, okay. Left, right, left. right and the worm's going and he's really good of riding the worm so the fremen love him that's how he got the part in the movie oh bro
Starting point is 00:10:31 batte boy blood you gave me man on a gleezy my main man on the gleezy fam here I'm now and the mother by the way she goes mental Ferguson is it Rebecca Ferguson he plays Timmy she plays Timmy's mother
Starting point is 00:10:48 and she's mental she's like we gotta take more power Timmy. We need more. We got to control these fucking freaks. Yeah. And she's talking to her. She's got a baby inside her. Oh. And she's like, the baby's talking to me. The baby wants more power. And the baby's Anna Taylor Joy. Oh. Yeah. The baby's talking. Baby's like, more power. And envisions Aunt Taylor Joy is like, I'm your future sister. You need to kill more people. Wow. Yeah, it's fucking weird, man. It's creepy. Oh, it's so creepy.
Starting point is 00:11:19 How's she looking? both of them are looking good all of them are looking good man oh okay even fucking Josh Brolin's looking good he's always looking good by the way he's like the bodyguard and he got lost in the chaos
Starting point is 00:11:31 but they find him afterwards he's like I got a bird he's so awesome in this because he's the whole thing is like I will do anything for you my liege
Starting point is 00:11:37 and he's like you know going around shopping up he's fighting Dave Batista oh it's so fucking good man but the whole thing is Timmy I'm just going to call him Timmy now right yeah Timmy Shamin
Starting point is 00:11:49 he is leading the people and there's a resistance movement so the evil empire keep coming trying to get the spice and these sand people again pop out using guerrilla warfare and they're destroying the machines okay and the baron
Starting point is 00:12:06 still as stars guard is like oh these damn sand people we gotta kill them but if we nuke the planet we can't get the sand we gotta get the craziest motherfucker out there And that's where to get Austin Butler A.k.a. Donald Rumsfeld.
Starting point is 00:12:25 The sexiest motherfucker it is. And by the way, Austin Butler and this. Bring in Dick Cheney. Austin Butler and this is fucking great. Okay. He is, he's really won me over. He's very, very menacing. The whole thing is he's like,
Starting point is 00:12:40 Stella Sarsgaard, like, little cousin, all right? And he's a proper freak. He loves pain. He's almost like a Hellraiser character. He's like, they show him off. he's got like a massacist a massacist a massacist yeah
Starting point is 00:12:51 show him off okay he's got a bed of three sexy bald women all right that he fuck takes turns fucking really and his idea of fun is
Starting point is 00:13:00 just pre jeta pinkets yeah ready to go you better not disrespect them Chris Rock better watch out Chris Rock's like oh so many jokes
Starting point is 00:13:08 so his idea of fun he just brings women in just cuts their trots he just slices women's trots while the three hoars in the bed like yeah
Starting point is 00:13:16 oh yeah it's very sexual, okay? Yeah. Does he stick his dick in the open neck wound? No. Oh, Denis. You've let me this is why James won't watch it. Coward, pussy. Denise, God, woke. Go woke, go broke. Yeah. So he, they basically hire him to like, you got to go to Dune and take out these evil fremen. And that's the rest of the film. It's like, it's Timmy, Timmy Shalameen and Josh Brolin and Zandaya
Starting point is 00:13:48 and the Fremen versus Austin Butler and Batista and fucking Stella Sarasgard and it's nonstop okay and it's a big, big war, okay? But you're the most awesome part is to have a big war and Timmy Charlemagne wins the war
Starting point is 00:14:03 and this is so awesome. He storms in to fucking Christopher Walken the overall emperor, okay? And Chris Walker's like, why are you here? Christopher Walken's very much in his Richard Lewis' face. Yeah, he really is.
Starting point is 00:14:16 He's really like, but he sits down on his trove. it's very, very gentle. He's just on a golf cart the whole time. Wow, he has a little spice. You can have it. Old spice. He, he...
Starting point is 00:14:30 He's an old man. He shows up, Timney Charlemagne. He makes Christopher walking get on one knee and kiss the ring. Hell yeah, dude. He's like, I'm your fucking emperor, right? On the daddy now. Yeah, he's like that. I know it's so awesome. With the whole time in the film, you're like,
Starting point is 00:14:47 yeah get him defeat the empire who like that and everyone's on Timmy Salamein's side apart from Zandaya Zandaya's the one who's bit like you know like maybe we should not kill everyone you know she's a bit of the beatneck
Starting point is 00:15:01 all right she does peace the wet blanket yeah yeah and ghost at the feast you know what's so funny so he he defeats Christopher walking
Starting point is 00:15:09 right the evil the adversary you know is so fucking big you know so strong the feast Chris are walking her right The teacher is terrified of Christopher Warren. In hand-to-hand combat.
Starting point is 00:15:21 Tell that big butto-a-tory retard, I'm going to stick a watch up his ass. You're still better than Dwayne Johnson. It ends, okay, with them being like, the rest of the houses, don't accept you as emperor, Timmy Salomein. Timmy Salomein is saying, you know what? We're going to Holy War.
Starting point is 00:15:41 We're killing everyone. Innocence, I don't care. Awesome. This is the, the, pat to eternal glory. Everyone goes like, yeah, la la la la. And they're all screaming, they're killing people. Zandaia looks sad.
Starting point is 00:15:55 That's how the film ends. Wow. It ends with jihad. It ends with like, I am your emperor. He completely accepts this. A star, he's like, I'll use this to help to defeat the emperor. In that event, he starts believing, he's like, I actually am the emperor. I've seen the future.
Starting point is 00:16:10 I will live for a thousand years. Was he doing the spice? Oh, he's doing spice. he does spice but also he does something that no very few people
Starting point is 00:16:21 have done they get a baby worm and they squeeze it and he drinks the blue jizz adrenochrome he gets he drinks blue
Starting point is 00:16:30 adrenachrome out of a baby the baby worm's like help help he's like you'll be in poltergeist
Starting point is 00:16:36 he drinks the blue juice okay and then he's like I am a god and man it's so Timmy Chalabain
Starting point is 00:16:43 okay little fella yeah There's a bit that he walks up to all these big guys All these Javier Bardems and all that He's like, shut the fuck up I am your god You and you were a little baby
Starting point is 00:16:54 Your granny died And you hid under the stairs You cried I know your life You are my puppet You are my pawn Shut the fuck up Like I love you
Starting point is 00:17:04 I love you yeah He goes pure You know what it's Godfather 2 Really? Yeah no Godfather 1 It's like his slow Change He's still changed
Starting point is 00:17:13 He's still changed from like Hey Mrs Puccine no, hey, to like, wah, like that. Hey, I'm the emperor. And that's how the, that's how the book ends. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. And that's how it ends. And when you're watching it, you're like, oh, I guess, whoopee.
Starting point is 00:17:28 Is there another book? There is, yeah. There's actually six books. So, do you want me to just go through the books real quick? I feel like you're going to. I am, yeah. You have no choice. It's like going to ask a girl, oh, no.
Starting point is 00:17:40 Do you want what you doing? I was going to make a joke there. I was like, nah, the free one. I won't do that. Come on. I talked about sticking your dick in an open wound. This is a safe space, brother.
Starting point is 00:17:52 Well, I'll just go through. So the next book, all right? Is it going to be another movie? There is, yeah. Okay. The next book's about Dune Messiah. And Dune Messiah is about the collapse of this. Dune Messiah is about Timney Chalameen becomes emperor,
Starting point is 00:18:05 but there's so much chaos and like his kids become evil. Like Gaddafi? Goddafi is. Wow. It's sexy. Well, no. Gadafi was sexy. Gadafi was sexy.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Gdafi was sexy. a piece of age. Oh, my God. Oh, yeah. Oh, to be that bayonet, they shoved up his asshole. So the next book's about, basically, Timmy Salameen, I don't know, they'll have to wait a few years. Because about him being older, he's got kids. Yeah, or could they recast?
Starting point is 00:18:34 They could, yeah. They could recast, like, Adam Driver or somebody. That could work, yeah. Or Adam Brody. Hey, you know, Adam Sandler. of course, yeah. Oh, now we're talking. I got you going.
Starting point is 00:18:48 Yeah, I do. Oh, I want to have some spice. Oh, it's too spicy. He gets diarrhea from the spice. Yeah, it's funny, yeah? But anyway, it's about his kids. And basically, I think the second book against Spider's game, the second book is, it all goes tits up.
Starting point is 00:19:08 He realizes how, I think he does something, I forget, he does something really evil, okay? And he's like, you know what? I've gone too far. And he just quits the whole thing. He walks out to the desert to die. Wow. He just like, just like, I've gone too far.
Starting point is 00:19:22 I am not your Messiah. Yeah. Do not follow me. And he goes out, all right? And that's how the second book ends. The third book is all about his kids. And the kids are like, dad's gone. Let's be more evil.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Woo! It's like a house party. Don't tell dad the babysitter's dead. Coming this summer. Oh, boy. And I think the third book then ends. with like um something bad happens to his son his son is called leo two du k o2 and i think it ends with like a stranger kind of the desert and being like son you've failed me and it's an old man
Starting point is 00:19:57 and you know what it is it's timothy shallame so again i don't know how you do that right you want to know how the next book the book that's the first three books right so first three books are like their own contained cycles about um you know rising and falling about like you know how good your intentions are it's basically what is the message is no matter how good you are, you'll turn evil and your kids will be basically useless, right? So kind of like succession, you will turn evil and your children incompetent. Yeah. That is the, that's basically the story of life right there.
Starting point is 00:20:28 That's the empire, right? Yeah, it's a Shakespearean, it's a Greek tragedy, it's kind of all the great storytelling. Yeah, yeah, it's the hero's, the retard's journey, right? So the fourth book, right, is about Duke Leo's son. so only his son, like Timothy Chalmayne's son. Is this still Frank Herbert? Yeah, Frank Herbert. How many did he write?
Starting point is 00:20:49 Six. And then his son took over? Yeah, yeah. So, life imitating art, his retarded son takes over. Man, I see, that's so good. Yeah. That's so good. I'm going to steal that, actually.
Starting point is 00:21:00 Well, you can have it, yeah. Who am I going to say that to? He's saying to me, I'm pretty high. I'll probably forget. The next episode, I'm like, geez, I'll be ruminating on something. You probably wouldn't make this connection, you know. It's two sons. for you, pal,
Starting point is 00:21:15 but yeah, that's so good, actually, yeah. Now the fourth book, right, is again the sun, but this time
Starting point is 00:21:21 the sun has just basically he was like, well, if dad hates me, I'll do even more spice. And now he's a big, uh, worm.
Starting point is 00:21:29 Right. And he's, he's, he's a thousand years old. Wow. Yeah, he's like, the whole thing about him
Starting point is 00:21:34 is he's seen the future to past and he's completely checked out. He's like, life has no meaning anymore. Wow. Yeah. And it's about all these wars happening. Okay,
Starting point is 00:21:43 so all the houses are fighting and all the people worship me like what should we do and he's like man you're going to die either way everything's meaning I know how you die you're going to die in two days you're going to fall down the stairs shut up so he's basically Rick from Rick and Morty
Starting point is 00:21:58 just like annoying and depressed yeah hey nothing means innocent so I'm sad but I'm really smart um blah blah blah yeah get shifty you gotta get spicy oh get spicy
Starting point is 00:22:14 Yes Yeah Now for some reason Deni Bill knew He said he'll film The next book But that's it Okay
Starting point is 00:22:21 His words were They get a little bit Too esoteric for him Right Yeah Because they do get weird And they also Get more
Starting point is 00:22:28 More like Into the future So like book Five is like 5000 years From the first book Right And it's about like
Starting point is 00:22:34 The great great Great great great Great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great Great great great great great great Timmy Chalamain But the kind of The consistent thing in the book is Jason Mamoa is in the first film
Starting point is 00:22:46 Yeah And he plays one of the bodyguards His name is Duncan And the whole thing is The Duncan was such a good warrior They clone him multiple times So he's the kind of consistent thing So there's always a Duncan
Starting point is 00:23:01 Wow So like I imagine Jason Mamoa's hoping Let's keep this going baby Oh yeah Because Duncan becomes the main character after a while Really? Yeah after a while
Starting point is 00:23:11 It's like Duncan and then a bunch of descendants from other characters. Am I wrong in saying he's not a very good actor? You would be wrong in the sense of not Aquaman, you'd be right in his Aquaman acting, all right? And Justice League and nearly everything
Starting point is 00:23:27 actually. Yeah, yeah. But in Dune... Except the one where he raped the 14-year-old. That was good. That wasn't a movie, James. What? What was a TV show? What was this? Well, Game of Thrones. In the book, Dineries is 14, but Amelia Clark was of age.
Starting point is 00:23:42 okay right sorry I was being facetious I just didn't know I was like what film is this you shouldn't be watching this team without me it's paredral guidance yeah yeah I know I guess maybe I've never seen Jason Mamoa in a good film watch him in this he's good in this but again he is kind of like the he's not like doesn't much to do he's just like a soldier who's very very good look tough and do good fighting and then he gets killed off in the first film yeah And then the whole thing is like, they're like, we'll keep his DNA for later. Right. Ooh, sequel.
Starting point is 00:24:18 And then, like, he's in... Franchise. Yeah. He's in, like, the first six novels. And then there was meant to be Dune 7, the end of the whole thing. Right. And the son, Frank Herbert died. Right.
Starting point is 00:24:30 And his son took over. And the son has released at least 28 books. That's mental. Yeah, yeah. It just, it's you only like Star Wars. Every character has their own prequel and sequel. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:41 Every character is like There's like all prequels There's all these different books These three books take place Between Dune 1 and Dune 2 And these four books take place Between Dune 4 So remember the bit where
Starting point is 00:24:54 Tim Echalame went away for a day Yeah This is this crazy adventure Right okay And he also introduced robots Into he was like What about does robots there as well And then his evil robots
Starting point is 00:25:07 And then And how were his books received? A lot of them think I don't like as well his name is Brian
Starting point is 00:25:16 Brian is a shit son I'm like what I've heard that before Yeah they do don't like it Oh fire and nickel
Starting point is 00:25:24 Yeah They don't like them They think they're boring There's lack of talent Yeah You're untalented You're a freak You've got classes
Starting point is 00:25:33 You look like Billy Elish's brother They're That was a Patreon actually Yeah well If they want to get that They know where they
Starting point is 00:25:41 No, sub to the page. The page was very, very good. Yeah, man. And there was no Dune talking. No, it wasn't. If you're like, oh, my God, Brian's on one again. I feel like I really ruined the podcast. Sometimes I edit it.
Starting point is 00:25:53 I edit the podcast sometimes. Yeah. I don't realize, there's so many jokes you say that I literally don't understand. Oh, really? I swear to God, so many times. Like, what's an example? I can't take example now, but like, so many times you do a joke and I'm like, as I'm redist him, I'm like, oh, now I get it.
Starting point is 00:26:10 Yeah. Oh, he was referencing something I said. earlier oh yeah I should have laughed at that well too late now yeah and I can hear him cutting himself in the bathroom making a mess
Starting point is 00:26:23 I could just say something but it's better for him to keep him on his toes well sometimes I'm guilty of making such an obscure schizophrenic barely competent reference that is just so tenuously
Starting point is 00:26:41 tied to reality it makes no sense at all so you know you can be forgiven I need to get high to understand yeah yeah actually a guy sent me something it's very well done it's like a he's a drug dealer
Starting point is 00:26:57 all right oh he's made this like fancy poster of all his drugs and his prices nice I'll show it to you yeah yeah yeah it's very well done I actually text him I was like I don't want any drugs but I love to work And does he deliver?
Starting point is 00:27:12 No, you have to take a picture of yourself Okay And your clothes My clothes? Clothes The stuff you wear Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 00:27:19 You have to take a picture of your clothes And your face Right Not a full body For some reason Okay And then you have to like Tell them exactly
Starting point is 00:27:27 Where you're gonna meet up All right Yeah, just keeps things spicy Well you know A lot of dealers Just On Look all this
Starting point is 00:27:34 Oh wow It looks like a festival poster Does yeah Yeah Look he's got like a little cat There and like a woman. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:27:42 Yeah. Sugar cane. I don't even know what these are. Weed. Kittles. Weehe. What is this? Wacky shit. The stuff that grows in my garden. Actually, somebody, I did a gig there in Crash and Byrne. And
Starting point is 00:27:57 just because I mentioned weed, then somebody gave me, like, a lump of weed. Just like, there you go, pal. Have that. Just, like, gave me a nice sweet chunk of weed. Usually if somebody hears me, like, talk about weed. Because you're on stage, you're like,
Starting point is 00:28:11 give me some weed, please. Give me dropped. They'll be like, oh, do you want to come smoke a joint? And I'll like, yeah, okay. But then I got to like hang out with them and talk to them, which is fine. But this guy goes, here, mate,
Starting point is 00:28:22 there's a wee bit of weed for free. I enjoyed your set. I was like, thank you, sir. I don't get that. Yeah. People don't want to talk to me after show. I've noticed that because from doing the haypenny, sometimes I'm like, you know,
Starting point is 00:28:34 I'm doing, I think I'm doing well on stage. I'm like, oh, it's be fun, you know. And sometimes I hang around at the door. of the women's bathroom. I'm like, they'll probably compliment me as they walk the past. And they don't. And they'll go to someone else
Starting point is 00:28:47 be like, oh, it's a great set. Oh, I loved all your stuff by Monaghan. I'm here as well. I'm not from Monaghan. I try this heartily. Also in the club we run, they leave so quickly.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Well, it's late though. They've got to get the last bus. No, they shouldn't. They should stay. They should stay. They give me weed. and dance the night away let's party down babes
Starting point is 00:29:14 well I tell you I did a fucking gig in Galway it was a competition and I was on first and it was kind of like a you had to compete against people so you had to start with two minutes so I got up first one on two minutes
Starting point is 00:29:28 was like basically eliminated straight away so after two minutes you didn't get a hostel around you did you what? Oh no no I got a lift back good good because it's not worse than like Well, now I'm in Galway.
Starting point is 00:29:42 Yeah, yeah. But it was really... Where's the prostitutes? I was the first one on and then immediately eliminated. Then I just had to sit there while everyone's having a good time. And like, people are like, you okay, James? Like, yeah, fine. Really?
Starting point is 00:29:57 Having a good time. Yeah, it's great. Yeah, yeah, it was just... I can really, I can really see you doing that. Yeah. I like, I didn't want to be... Because I was like, ah, whatever, it's grand. But, you know, it's just... Yeah, the black dog, you know?
Starting point is 00:30:09 I felt like a real Randolph Churchill What was his name Rudolf? Rudolf Churchill Again a Patreon joke Guys Yeah you know where to go
Starting point is 00:30:18 Man the green-eyed monster Doesn't always get me It's weird I could see someone banging my girlfriend Yeah And you know banging my dad even
Starting point is 00:30:27 Yeah And I'd be like Yeah whatever But it's just sometimes like It's kind of gets you Sometimes like someone makes a joke And people laugh And like
Starting point is 00:30:33 It wasn't actually that funny Yeah fucking freak Yeah I know I'll try to make a joke as well but it's a bit too fast
Starting point is 00:30:41 you know so like so you know it's not all just it doesn't always go well for me either how's your you've been gigging a lot
Starting point is 00:30:49 it's not always free weed and a pat on the back sometimes it's a long night of silence and cold desolate isolation well what
Starting point is 00:30:59 how are the gigs been going you've been pretty busy yeah I can't by the way I have to talk to James's agent now
Starting point is 00:31:05 I love like is he he's like James is busy I'm like well I can see behind you he's he's watching dude too he's told me he didn't like
Starting point is 00:31:15 doing with brawny him and brawny are very good friends now but brawny says he doesn't care for you Brian so you're not invited the gigs were going well the crunch was very very fun yeah it was great
Starting point is 00:31:31 you were texting us positive things I was in the group chat I was drinking oh good good you know I was worried I was like this is the calm before a storm. And you were right because then two days later I'm in Galway like
Starting point is 00:31:45 oh what's the fucking point of anything? I'm a worthless cunt and then I was like literally like lying in bed and I say what's I should just stop like this is terrible you know I'm worthless I should not this is awful and then I do
Starting point is 00:32:01 like a five minute spot and get a lump of waiting and I'm like hey I'm back all right we're in the money we're in the I'm such a bipolar, like hysterical. I'm basically Marilyn Monroe. I'm just like a big
Starting point is 00:32:17 titted drug addict mentally ill freak. It's just like anyway. But anyway. It's been going good though. It's been fun. And you got two shows coming up now? Yes. Tuesday, Wednesday. In the heapenny? Heypenny, yeah. Do you want to host any of them?
Starting point is 00:32:33 I suppose, well... Well, it's just me and you. We got no Gary. Oh, where's Gary? I think he's off in Antrim or Antwerp Antwerp One of them Yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:32:44 I welcome to Antwerp The one with the more IRA lads in it Yeah Well yeah I'll host one You host the other Look we'll discuss this all here No people like to hear The business of show
Starting point is 00:32:55 But wait So Dune And also they voted no on the referendum Oh yeah By the way I listen to Multiple podcasts About the referendum
Starting point is 00:33:08 I listen to Celtic Ligers. Okay. Alright? I still have no idea Because the problem is when I'm listening to a podcast about politics I'm like, I'll listen to this, I'm really getting to a nitty-gritty and now I know I'll be the informed voter. Now I'm listening to it while I'm wanking or driving or boat, you know. And then at the end of like, I have no idea what they're saying. Yeah. I know I've got jizz on my windshield
Starting point is 00:33:31 and a speeding ticket. Oh my cock. Do you know how fast? you're a wank in there. Have you any drink taken? Do you, did you vote? I like voting. You can hang around the school and no one asks questions.
Starting point is 00:33:49 It's my favorite time of the ears. I get to just be here and nobody can say a darn thing. There's no busy bodies. But you probably, when you're voting, you probably can't just hang around the place be like, yeah, nice. Yeah. Yeah. Do you vote here often, do you?
Starting point is 00:34:05 Little more. Back at the old stomping ground, because is it in your primary school? It is, but the primary school is so different now I don't recognize it at all. Yeah, same. Yeah. As soon as we left.
Starting point is 00:34:16 Yeah, the children, I tell you, they didn't look like that when I went here. What's going on now? I try to go into a voting booth. It's a woman in a burq. Oh, sorry. I don't mind.
Starting point is 00:34:32 Apologies. Are these children non-binary because they better not be there? Justice for Burke So they lost anyway I'll be honest with you 100% honest I have no idea how I vote even
Starting point is 00:34:46 There was two bits of paper One was green and one was white And I forgot which one was which And the thing is like you go behind there And if you spend those time looking around In my head people are like He doesn't know what the papers mean Freak shame
Starting point is 00:35:01 He can't get it up in there Do I get a magazine or something? Something, I mean, what am I supposed to do here, you know? I need some assistance. You come back with, like, some sperm. There you go, a little bit extra for you. Ah, God. We really bring, we bring politics alive, you know.
Starting point is 00:35:29 I didn't vote, I must say. I wasn't able to get home, unfortunately. Oh, I usually would vote. It's not like I was fucked. I don't know, like it's funny If voting really changed anything They'd make it illegal Woo!
Starting point is 00:35:43 Actually, out of interest I'm going to look up a list of referendums Because I think like I just heard the radio It was a very, very low turnout. Yeah. But the thing is, it was so fucking vague
Starting point is 00:35:53 The people didn't understand it And then like The big sticking point For a lot of people Like, I don't think So it was changing the language In the Constitution that says a woman
Starting point is 00:36:05 needs to stay in the home nobody like thinks like nobody has a problem with that being changed except apart from like all right retards
Starting point is 00:36:14 whatever the thing that was a bit of people and left had problems with some of this as well
Starting point is 00:36:18 but not not with that though what they had an issue with which is the far more pertinent issue
Starting point is 00:36:24 was the carer's allowance yeah wasn't it like they're going to put disabled people in a river yes in the same
Starting point is 00:36:32 river oh imagine that stank of that river You're going to affect the drinking water. Yeah, yeah. Now, what was it now? It's like fluoride.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Fluoride in the water. If you put disabled children in the water, it lowers the IQ of the population. No, what is, I'm all joking aside. I'm not even 100% sure, but I think it was something along the lines of basically minimizing, minimizing the government's responsibility
Starting point is 00:37:00 to help out financially for people who have care status. who look after somebody in their home who is a condition or an illness or whatever. So I think from what I know from Celtic Ligers, which is a very good podcast, there's something that was a guarantee and they're changing it to,
Starting point is 00:37:21 the government will strive to attempt. It was like very, very vague. And someone was like, ah, this won't work. And I tell you what really... I was going to say something, but it won't be funny. Who on?
Starting point is 00:37:32 Well, it's funny when you play the clip, all right but it's not funny you want to describe basically on Celtic Lagers for saying it's like
Starting point is 00:37:40 it's like you won't sleep at Sophie's mom he's like I tried not to but then on Celtic Lagers they played the clip
Starting point is 00:37:49 I was like peep show is very funny yeah do they have the copyright license in agreement no yeah
Starting point is 00:37:56 well maybe they could be getting a phone call you get a little letter from Robert Webb Webb on his death bed he was like a week and a half away from a
Starting point is 00:38:07 fatal heart attack. Yeah, it's heart like Yeah, it was very, very weak apparently. Oh, really? Yeah. Obviously some kind of like genetic. Thicky tummy, yeah. Yeah, yeah. But, so another thing that really didn't help was that fucking clip of Varadkar on like...
Starting point is 00:38:24 Can I mean honest, I didn't see this clip, but just heard people talk about the clip. It was, you know, I can see why it annoyed people. He was eating a baby. Oh, is it just me or to the white babies always tastes better, you know. Yes, that's
Starting point is 00:38:40 exactly what it was, Brian. And the crazy alt-right freaks took his shoe with it. Oh, a gay man can't eat a baby live on television. So, he was on, like,
Starting point is 00:38:56 some talk show or whatever, and then, you know, he was basically like, you know, my parents, you know, when they need care, I will look after them. Personally, I don't think it should be the government's response. ability. And he sort of kind of laughed about it. It's like, mate, you fuck it. Like, it was just so
Starting point is 00:39:12 elitist, out of touch. He's coming from... It's such a place of privilege. It's just like, man, are you fucking... Like, how dumb are you? That's stuff he say when the cameras aren't on you. You're laughing at them all. Yeah. With me. Like, surely, I mean,
Starting point is 00:39:30 I don't know, maybe the coke is ruined his brain. I... Now, can I tell you some political insights now? I know someone I've forgotten the story Wait no no I know someone A real Woodward and Bernstein here
Starting point is 00:39:45 In Watergate Something's happening I don't know what Let's just say my mother's got a deep throat According to the guys I went to school with No sorry I remember now I know a girl who knows people who work in the
Starting point is 00:40:04 the Belgium kind of like political kind of, I don't know, like, like, Parliament? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And they were telling me that like, Varadkar went over. Right. One time. And he meant to have a meeting at eight.
Starting point is 00:40:17 And he came that night and just went straight to partying. Wow. He's partying with lads, okay? He's hooked up with someone, all right? Went back to Dare Gaff. Did he even bring him back to his hotel where it's safe, okay? Yeah. Went back to some, some fucking, I don't know,
Starting point is 00:40:30 fucking Fernando, the fireman, okay, yeah? Is it okay that I live in bowling average? Yes, absolutely fine. As long as I don't have to wear those ugly shoes. Yes, of course, yes. Well, as long as you don't mind putting your fingers in my holes.
Starting point is 00:40:51 I don't understand Checksy Pange, but yes. So basically, the Belgium security team that they had, okay, and the Irish team, now their job is to follow him, all right and they have to pick out he's like
Starting point is 00:41:05 get me a cab and he's like he's like I want food yeah so he's just waking off some lad
Starting point is 00:41:11 in the toilets of a cabab shop it's like uh anybody you want yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:41:16 and then he's just like I know him whatever he's done okay he's a trooper though because then he's up
Starting point is 00:41:21 eight with the suit on like nice to meet you yeah so oh I'm well I'm a little
Starting point is 00:41:25 worse for wear ha ha ha ha you know a bit bit of jet lag you know it was like
Starting point is 00:41:30 like 30 minutes yeah yeah he calls a jet He's got like Coke his hat He's like a lump
Starting point is 00:41:37 of coke to the side of his face and a lump of cheese on the other side Not to be homophobic now Like I'm sure
Starting point is 00:41:44 Like I'm sure like Yeah Enda Kenny I'm sure But I think Endo is more like Pints
Starting point is 00:41:49 And then like Fuck some like Fat Woman You know You're like You know like Tiger Woods Just bagging waitressing
Starting point is 00:41:57 Yeah That's End the Kenny It's like Just bagging some girl Back behind Supermax You know Brian
Starting point is 00:42:03 Cohen, what would his preference be? I think he's like internet pornography. I think he's like a sad... That's respectable. Yeah, yeah. He's really into like AI porn and stuff. Yeah, he was a really he saw the future.
Starting point is 00:42:17 He loves anime girls. He's just wanking off the hentai. Yeah. Where are we talking about? The referendum. Referendum, yeah. Sorry, I went a bit weird. Yeah. We were just, we could have talked about that for an hour straight. And Charlie
Starting point is 00:42:31 Hawley, I bet he would like the I betcha he loved Fanny as well, what? Yeah, behind the green door. He was a real gangster all together, brown envelopes for everyone, what? And I'm not talking about the brothel in Zimbabwe. What, which is I to you, to you, to me, whey, Jesus, what? Yeah, having a bloody laugh. So there are a friend of lost.
Starting point is 00:43:02 A little bit close to the line there. But anyway, the referendum did not go true. Yes. I see this big failure for the government. Yes. Apparently last time the bill was this low, it was an adoption referendum.
Starting point is 00:43:16 Really? Yeah, there's something about like, it's adoption, you know. Is it for freaks or what? Man, we've had a lot of referendums. I don't know if any country has... I mean, obviously there's the marriage equality bill and the repeal the AIDS.
Starting point is 00:43:32 and all that stuff. I voted for all of those, you know? I was on the right side of history. What good did it do me? So, like, there was a divorce rights, the one about blasphemy? What? I don't understand what I'm looking at here. Sorry, guys. Yeah. The age of
Starting point is 00:43:48 Oh, Candacy. All right. You've got excited there. Let's move on something else, guys. We're almost at the hour there. Andy, you want to talk about James for you. Well, I tell you, I watched that was it on this one or the war mode one we talked about
Starting point is 00:44:06 Patreon the war mode troubles we're not war mode oh you're right we're not I actually want to watch that I tell you it's just let them know what it is well war mode is a podcast
Starting point is 00:44:18 by two Philly bros but they're like Irish American but one of them is very like fascinated with the troubles so we actually came over to Ireland and he like turned around he went to Dublin
Starting point is 00:44:32 Belfast, Derry And he interviewed like a bunch of You know X IRA lads Like lads that were H block blanket Man like in the blanket protest How is the actual production of it? That's the thing
Starting point is 00:44:44 It's quite amateurish Is it like if I did it To be honest The thing about it It's not really a documentary It's just kind of a series of Audio interviews With like B-roll footage
Starting point is 00:44:58 Of like you know the troubles And landscape shots Like Adam Curtis. Yeah, but then also, interestingly enough, at the start, more so, for the first maybe 20 minutes, you're actually here in Billy and Spud, and, like, it's like, oh, whoa, what's, what's this? Like, oh, yeah, that's when I was there with these guys and, yeah, yeah, yeah. But they, they, they stopped that pretty quickly. Does it come back to that?
Starting point is 00:45:22 No, no, no, no, then it just ends. And then, I tell you, it does meander towards the end, he's sitting with three guys who are all in H-block. They're talking about being, like, in the blank. could protest and just like the beatings and the humiliation that they were forced to endure from the prison guards and the thing is there's like four them all talking over each other and a lot of the there's no subtitles and obviously I had no problem understanding it because you know yeah you'd understand it but like a lot of Americans are like hey I don't know what the fuck these guys are saying yeah it's like I'm tan the nash out there and the bloody brach
Starting point is 00:45:58 in the provoes like you know what I mean and the screws you know what I mean yeah Like, what do you want about, like, eh? It's not even, it's not even like accents. It is accents, okay. It's also, like, even just like there's, like, the screws and all that. Yeah, like slang terms and another thing is like, we'd be very familiar with IRA, UDA, UVF, RUC. But like, to an American, that's just letters. Like, they're not going to, you know, it's hard to keep track.
Starting point is 00:46:22 UVF stands for a big black cough. Uh, yes. But, uh, I just commend Spud for actually going to Ireland and sitting down with, like old ratheads and talking to them. There's a type of American person that like they don't really have, I'm not saying this is him now but like a lot of them like this is like
Starting point is 00:46:41 seem like Chappelle went to Africa it's kind of like you know what I mean it's kind of like there's like when Pilgrimage back to the homeland they do need they kind of there's something there where they're like oh no I'll go it's like Pilate and someone's like
Starting point is 00:46:56 oh I'll go to Ireland and I'll just absorb the and we get to all time and doing shows and yeah in Haypenny as well people show up as like my grandmother was from here so I'm coming here now to get to find myself
Starting point is 00:47:08 because their country really doesn't have a history as such they were you know founded in 1776 like you know another thing about this documentary that I commend now obviously was more so the interviewees
Starting point is 00:47:23 but they were talking about how it goes back to the time of like Oliver Plunkett and Cromwell and like you know King James and like really like laying down the foundation and roots of how this you know like the the land barons
Starting point is 00:47:38 like the lords that came over and took over land like Dune. Yeah I guess and now I'm now now I'm something I was like oh so the IRA are like different oh yes yes now I'm good yeah but um in terms of production it's quite it's a bit amateurish but I commend it
Starting point is 00:47:55 how long is it? It's like two hours like an hour 50 minutes I'll be honest I listened to they released as a podcast and I didn't understand what was I thought it was them talking about
Starting point is 00:48:06 the documentary they made with random clips put in but that's just how it starts that's just how it starts yeah Spud says something weird I didn't know
Starting point is 00:48:14 100% if he meant I probably misheard it because I was in pennies listening to it by the way as you should where I go to a list to all historical podcasts
Starting point is 00:48:25 we're listening a good podcast with the Holocaust I go to pennies just really just chill out there right my god but like um zones of zones of interest on my phone and pennies
Starting point is 00:48:35 oh it's devastating yeah are you gonna try that on lov are you them jeans I just stand there with no jeans on I'm going to try them on the minute lov right I want to give me a pair of
Starting point is 00:48:50 striped pajamas I really want to get into the mood for this movie what's my point do you have any uniforms by Hugo boss by a chance Oh, that's very good Yeah, they don't talk shit about them though
Starting point is 00:49:04 They might get advertising You said Spud said something weird Oh yeah, he said something He was like Yeah, in Ireland You vote It's like how many houses you have So you have two houses
Starting point is 00:49:13 You got two votes Yeah Is that, was that true? I don't know I didn't know if he meant In the past or now I didn't know if he taught that And I was like
Starting point is 00:49:22 I'm pretty sure that's not how it worked No, I don't think that is that work I don't know if that was in the past You had two houses It probably was back in like many Evil times I know, but you talk about Troubles. I don't even Jordan Troubles. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Here's thing. It wasn't the most well-informed and obviously, because we're from Ireland and like I'm from the border so I... You're quite familiar with a lot of it. You're with the screws. Yeah. Get them, boys. Let them, make them wash their hair and their smelly buns.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Let's get them, boys. Hair is, I shish, we can't hear. But I actually did, I like, I commented on it and then I added a link to the episode that we did about steak knife steak knife yeah it's called the IRA man who loved animal porn see you get your attention man
Starting point is 00:50:09 yeah that's what I tried man you're doing good work there yeah yeah yeah you earned that bit of weed you got I did I smoked it all I was my investment and I had hallucinations it's all pointless the past the present's all happening at once time is a flat circle It's an interesting little experiment
Starting point is 00:50:35 I'd be intrigued to see if they could do more Yeah, I'd be interesting what kind of topic to cover next You kind of wonder like how mental are they going to go there And how badly was hurt Shane's career Yeah God, it's very funny that he's like, you know He's like on SNL and hanging out with like Jack Harlow Spud is just a dairy with a bunch of
Starting point is 00:50:59 of like 60 year old provost and we were shaking on the walls and rubbing the shaked everywhere and we weren't we weren't fucking washing ourselves because that's all we could do to protest. No way dude that's crazy. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:51:15 And the lad's like do you know where's Jack Harlow? Is Le Maire coming? Where's La Mesee? This is two. Who is this for? Who is this for? Nobody's going to get this. This is beyond schizophrenic.
Starting point is 00:51:29 please I know yeah I'll tell you I bought James a copy of Private Eye yeah
Starting point is 00:51:35 it's Britain's premier satirical newspaper I've heard you talking about it and nobody it's been going
Starting point is 00:51:42 since the 60s what does that tell you it's been going since the 60s you've read every copy I've got a new purpose in life I'm getting the back issues what are like some of the more famous things
Starting point is 00:51:53 that Private Eye have well the most famous thing is let me just look this up so I'll get it wrong They're the most sued newspaper I think in Britain And Ian Hizlop, he runs it Oh, have I got news for you
Starting point is 00:52:06 And he's like one of the most sued men in Britain Wow Actually, let me look up private I like Ian Hislop So they do, it's like their whole policy Is a spoonful of sugar So you have real stories in there And then they're throwing jokes as well
Starting point is 00:52:18 Kind of like our podcast, you know Yeah Because they can't handle the truth You know, we're like, you know The troubles were bad So we have to throw in lots of funny voices And talk with Dune for a while just to get people on side.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Of course, yeah. Yeah. So I'm going to look up like the criticisms and stuff like that. So, like, I'm trying to look up
Starting point is 00:52:35 on the big things they got complained about. I know, I think it was my, is it Myra Hinley? Oh, yeah, one of the Moors murders.
Starting point is 00:52:43 I think it was her. Let me double check that, but basically they ran a story that like she was getting loads of money off like the son or something that published like all these like stories like,
Starting point is 00:52:53 my fact up life. Oh, right. Yeah, and she was like making a really good living off these stories like more life than prison you know all this stuff yeah and it wasn't true
Starting point is 00:53:02 well no it was true but she still she still sued them okay for libel how can it be liable if it's true well that's the thing they won in the end ah right okay yeah but one stage they're going to sue like for 600
Starting point is 00:53:17 oh sorry Sonia Sutcliffe that was it oh Sutcliffe wife of a Peter the Yorkshire Ripper the Yorkshire Ripper yeah yeah yeah and At one stage, he had to give her 60,000 pounds.
Starting point is 00:53:34 Sorry, sorry, I'm wrong. At one stage he was ordered to pay 600,000 pounds, which is the highest case of libel ever in history. And he got talked down to 60,000. Wow. Yeah, but that's still quite a lot. Yeah, it's good negotiating, though.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Yeah, you suppose it's better than nothing, yeah. Good for Sonia Sutcliffe, I suppose. You know, your husband's, you know, the Yorkshire Ripper. Hey, girl, if he's, out there and murdering prostitutes and having sex with their bodies you gotta get yours girlfriend oh yeah
Starting point is 00:54:05 so like I don't know too much about private eye but I'm interested in it like why did you but you bought a copy of private eye and the Phoenix yeah the Phoenix is the Irish version of it so it's not as good even more irrelevant version oh man they got look they got advertisements here for things we love
Starting point is 00:54:21 look like what it's morning glory with PJ and Jim that's not PJ is it? What is? Yeah, it is. You're right. You're fucking fool. You can't.
Starting point is 00:54:31 I think I've let this is not interesting for the podcast, yeah. I'm just looking at it. Oh yeah. Really, you're reading the Phoenix. Like, come on. Just mining for gold, huh?
Starting point is 00:54:42 Well, no, it's just like, I always, ever since I was a kid, I've always seen the Phoenix and private eye on the stands. Yeah. I got these, like, the local, the shop,
Starting point is 00:54:50 there's a little shitty shop near I work, right? Right. Whereas all full of old people with nowhere to go. Don't buy anything. No, yeah. And they've got really mingy-looking dogs.
Starting point is 00:54:59 They've all got real weird-looking dogs, okay? And there's all these old people that stand there, like, shivering. And I'm like, get on my way. I've got to buy private eye. It was a methadone clinic, Brian. Look at all these smelly old freaks. Where's the newspapers?
Starting point is 00:55:15 It was school for the blind. Oh, with your mingy dogs. Why is this magazine in Braille? Well, I ended on this, actually. Have you ever heard of Mad Sam DeStefano. Mad Sam DeStefano? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:32 No. He's this... I like this, by the way. You're bringing me stories here. So he was a gangster in Chicago, in like the... So the very famous Chicago crime syndicate called The Outfit, right?
Starting point is 00:55:47 Yeah, okay. So it was a big, huge crime syndicate. And Mad Sam DeStefano was reputed as the most sadistic and easy. evil, fucked up, like, killer in, like, the whole outfit. So he was, it was weird. He was, like, he was very good financially.
Starting point is 00:56:07 So he made a lot of money with, like, various property deals. And, like, so he was always able to beat charges and stuff like that. But he was also incredibly unhinged and sadistic. Yeah. And he was a proclaimed Satanist. He said that the devil spoke to him and he was working through, the devil was working. through him. Sorry, when was this again? This is like
Starting point is 00:56:30 like the so he made a vague decades here. Probably like the 60s, 70s was when he was at, okay. No, probably a bit before that actually 40s to 60s was when he was at his most infamous. Right, okay. His first conviction was like 1927
Starting point is 00:56:47 he got charged with rape him, like I get him and a few lads because the devil. Did a gang rape. No, that was just peer pressure. He was like, don't blame the devil or that. That was all me. The Puerto Ricans even worse but he was like so he had like a whole like torture chamber set up
Starting point is 00:57:02 in his gaff okay but he was just like he was just like very unhinged he would like throw these like hysterical fits where like one second he'd be laughing and then the next he'd be bawling crying and then he'd like start foaming at the mouth and it's like
Starting point is 00:57:18 Satan I command thee Satan you know he was just a full blown mentalist and like he was just so he was a lone shark as well so what he liked to do was hand out loans to people he knew couldn't pay him back yeah so then he had an excuse to take them and torture them and kill them they hold like this is like in the 40s and 50s like you know this is really you know it's a business you know it's crying but it's a business but he really took pleasure in the more sadistic elements yeah
Starting point is 00:57:49 yeah yeah and obviously he was very unhinged as well but like he'd also do things like when the feds would come round he'd come down his pajamas and he'd have just his peatistic it's flopped outside hey boys what can I do you for it sounds like diplomatic immunity yeah yeah and one time he pissed in their coffee and like told the wife to tell them
Starting point is 00:58:08 like two FBI agents that it was made from the purest Italian coffee bean and you guys sounds fun apart for the rapes yeah yeah the murder and the oh another fucking weird one is there so one night he's just driving around this lad's just walking
Starting point is 00:58:24 home from work fucking man Mad Sam gets out of the car, puts a gun on him, says, get in the back seat, drives him to his house. Yeah. Like Mad Sam drives this randomer back to his house and takes him into his wife and forces the wife to suck the guy's dick while he watches. Because apparently she annoyed him about something.
Starting point is 00:58:46 So that was like punished me and say, I'm going to make you suck off some random dude because you are nagging at me. And what happened to the guy? He, like, he ran, like, he got out of there. he ran straight to the police station. Sir, they suck my cock. Well, he was afraid that he was going to get accused of rape. Oh.
Starting point is 00:59:04 Then this one other really fucked up stories, this guy. This guy sounds, it's entertaining. It's insane. Like, I was kind of reading it. I was, the reason why I'm bringing it up, because it's like, how have I never heard of this guy? Yeah. He's fucking crazy. So this guy, fucking owed Matt Sam a bunch of money.
Starting point is 00:59:23 So he takes him to a restaurant down to the baseball. of a restaurant and keeps him there for a few days and tortures them and you know whatever and then he invites like a bunch of crime associates but also the guy's family members invites them all into the banquet
Starting point is 00:59:41 room for a big dinner and then at the end of the meal like it's like oh you remember that guy who went missing who owed me a bunch of money well here he is and like lit him on fire and he told everyone to piss on him to extinguish the flames
Starting point is 00:59:56 but the guy lived I gotta look at this guy it's insane I gotta put a face to this this is insane but he lived to like I think he was like in his 60s
Starting point is 01:00:05 when they finally killed him but he had how the fuck he had check this out he had two brothers who were like gangsters as well
Starting point is 01:00:13 so mad Sam and his brother Mario were ordered to kill the third brother Michael and they did it with no hesitation they're like yeah fuck it we'll do that
Starting point is 01:00:23 because apparently Michael was a junkie and he was a liability but the thing about Mad Sam is because he was so mental he was never made the outfit were like can't have you as a made man
Starting point is 01:00:36 you'll never be a friend of ours because you're too insane he's a fucking liability a much of a liability he's a piss smelling liability the only reason they kept them around for as long as they did is because he made them so much money because he really was very good
Starting point is 01:00:51 at like negotiation yeah but yeah like I kind of i just locked them up i you know i don't even know where it's like on reddit yeah under like uh like the soprano subreddit somebody mentioned i'm still going on there yeah yeah well it's stuff there i got you get you yeah don't don't hate me but anyway um so yeah but yeah it's you find a wikipedia there's youtube videos about it stuff and yeah very entertaining he was
Starting point is 01:01:19 highly emotional yeah yeah yeah but like yeah all that saintness shit like he was he was fucking insane but God it would be great if they made a movie about him but he's kind of like just such a repugnant and horrible character he's like some kind of villain in the film and like that's not real yeah he's like
Starting point is 01:01:39 De Staphano by the way to see he always said Sam de Staphano if he had not been framed for rape at the age of 17 he would have become president of the United States of America Yes sir wow He's got a lovely grave by the way
Starting point is 01:01:56 His grave looks so nice He's an interesting cat. I'll just have a fucking can of beans. Oh, it's a pot noodle there. I may look up as any books on him around. I'm sure there is, yeah, but anyway, that's so... We're over the hour there. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:14 That was some good stuff. I'm so interesting. Yeah, it was good. I was going me up with my girlfriend later and I'm like, babe, I can't. Yeah. What time is it? Late night booty call, huh?
Starting point is 01:02:23 Well, no, it's just a... I don't have to explain myself to you I've got an issue of private eye and the phoenix that'll get her wet nice and moist she's asleep and I'm like
Starting point is 01:02:35 throwing private eyes our window it doesn't make a sound because it's wet paper you're holding a booobbox and it's just like a Leo Varadker speech babe wake up
Starting point is 01:02:50 anyway we're over the hour you gotta go and meet your lady you know what no I don't have to go actually. Oh, okay. No, I won't go. No, I've got to look up Mad Sam.
Starting point is 01:03:01 What would Mad Sam? Mad Sam would stay in bed and look at the internet. Apparently he was, he loved, he was a real Louis C.K. He loved taking his dick out. And like, like, when he was a great comedian. When he was in court, like he'd be in court. And like he just like whip out a bullhorn and say, I object, your honor. He was just like this really wacky guy, you know.
Starting point is 01:03:25 like Jerry Lewis, you know. It's very interesting. There's a lot of fun stuff there. But anyway, look, that's the end of this episode. So Dune and Mad Sam. Yeah. A little mix of stuff there. A little bit of politics in there too.
Starting point is 01:03:37 I tell you, I think it's on Netflix. Watch a bit of Dune. Yeah. See what you think. I probably... You might be surprised by how it won't change your life actually. I was going to say it changed everything. It won't change nothing.
Starting point is 01:03:51 Anyway, that's the end of you. Bye. All right. Goodbye.

There aren't comments yet for this episode. Click on any sentence in the transcript to leave a comment.