Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 219 : Dune Two
Episode Date: March 14, 2024Mad Sam the Sand Worm...
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You know, it started back in 2014, Brian.
I started having trouble.
I just like, I just keep...
Don't worry, we'll get to Dune.
I couldn't even say worse than you talk about your problems.
Well, I'm trying to discuss something serious, all right?
Don't goofball shit this episode, right?
There we go.
We're talking about Dune.
Now, some reason, you really don't want to watch Dune, do you?
You're hesitant to watch Dune.
Yeah.
Because Dune, too, at the moment, is like, the biggest thing ever.
Yes.
It's a cultural moment.
You're like the guy who's like, I don't want to watch that.
Wars back in the 70s.
I kind of am like that. Yeah. I know.
Look, it is a very
silly thing to be a
well, here's one. I'm not a big
sci-fi guy. I've never really been
into sci-fi. Is it not?
It's about our world. It's about
space worms and
yeah. Zandaya is being
hot. It's more about politics
really. The family drama.
As all sci-fi is, of course.
And I'm not completely, I don't
hate all sci-fi, but I just don't
like quite a lot of it.
Okay, well, Dune is very good.
Okay, I'm sure it is. I know Deneve Villeneuve
Ileneuve is fantastic. Yeah, have you watched
any of the other films?
I mean, prisoners
and, uh, Sicario.
Or a Blade Runner. No.
Oh, well, then you should watch.
Yeah.
You got a lot of work to do, my palo, yeah.
Yeah. Yeah.
Oh.
And I want to watch Going Overboard,
the first Adam Sander film
where he plays
Shecky Moskowitz, an aspiring comedian on a cruise.
Don't worry, Brian.
We'll get to.
And, yes, Adam said he was actually quite unhappy with the film,
but, you know, he considers it to be an important learning.
I'm just shaking him at rage.
I'm like, oh, I got to talk about Dune.
You're like, your nose is starting to bleed.
All right, fucking Dune to, here we go.
Let's get Dune to it.
Woo-hoo!
Yes, okay, yeah.
I can accept that.
All right.
So, do you know what Dune is about basically?
Vaguely, but go on.
Just give me a recap.
Again, just a real quick recap.
It's about the Spice.
There's an alien planet called Dune slash Iraqis, all right?
And they have the spice.
And the spice can do multiple things.
It's basically heroin in Iraq, you know.
Well, if heroin was also petrol.
Oh.
So, yeah, but particularly you put in your car and you can sniff some of it and have a cool time.
You can do that with petrol?
You can actually, yeah.
You can't actually, yeah.
Off petrol.
It's petrol.
It's space petrol.
Awesome.
But it's space petrol.
And the only oil comes with dinosaurs.
Yes.
It comes from big worms.
Right.
All right.
So it's a one for one comparison.
Okay.
And there's the emperor played by Christopher Walken.
Okay.
And he has different families under him.
And he has these families control the spice planet.
Right.
So at one stage, the Harconans with the SARS guards.
All right.
Stella Sarsgarde.
He's this big fat guy.
He's like,
real, give me more spice.
Yeah, because if you do too much of it,
it turns you into a big worm thing.
It turns you into all sorts of things.
It fucks with you, right?
You can see the future,
but you kind of get addicted to it.
And then eventually, if you take loads of it,
you become a proper, like,
bleh, kind of space worm kind of nonsense, right?
Yeah.
So he gives it to Oscar Isaac,
his family, the house of Atrehees.
Okay.
Right.
So it's kind of got a Game of Thrones thing,
different houses, different,
different families.
And he sends
fucking Oscar Isaac and his family
including little
Timitie Chalemain
to the planet Dune.
Right.
But it's a trap.
The Emperor's working with
the Harconans with the Sars guards.
Right.
And they're basically going to kill
the Trees family.
They're going to take over the spice
and yada, yada, yada.
It's a coup.
A coup de tar.
A political coup.
In space.
And the first movie
to kill Oscar Isaac, you know,
Spoilers.
Well, we're spoiling the film, by the way, guys, all right?
So they kill Oscar Isaac and little Timmy, all right?
Little Timmy Shalameen.
Is he, Oscar Isaac was his dad, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's the son.
He's left on the planet with his mother and then the sand people, all right?
Oh, this could be dicey.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's see how he navigates this one, folks.
And him and the sand people, all right, have to, in the second film,
rise up and destroy the evil empire.
And it is basically 9-11, guys.
You are supporting 9-11 this film.
9-11 in space.
And it feels so good, Matt.
It literally is like they're taking the oil, all right?
It's oil wars, okay?
It's so, it's so, like, precedent, okay, that what was going on.
So in this film, Timothy leads a jihad.
Literally, it's a jihad, okay?
It's called a jihad.
Yeah, yeah.
Do they call it that in the movie or did they change it?
Not in the book, it's jihad.
in this is called the Holy War
Perfuffle
No it's called
I'm leading the kerfuffle
It's the troubles
Yeah space troubles
I can't over that door space now
will you, they're a good lad
Aye
You turn into a big war
I'm there ain't
Which just apropos and non
for a minute right
I'll listen to war mode
Yes
And they've suddenly discovered
The troubles
Yes
It's funny no offence to them
But I love hearing
Americans and English people
Just finding about the troubles
They're like
Dude that was like really bad
You guys are probably really miffed about that
It's probably a real bummer
He came over to Ireland
And he went to Belfast and Derry
And he interviewed like ex-H block prisoners
And the blanket man
Like he really
He put the work in
He made an effort
I just mean like in general
I talk to all these people okay
And there's like
Whoa I guess I wouldn't be happy
Man if they killed my family
I'd be like super pissed off man
I'd be like this is some BS
Man if I was in Hunger Strike
I'd be so freaking hungry
Yo dude
I can't go on hunger strike
If I got the munchies
And you know I'm gonna be blazing
What about Bobby Sands
Goes to White Castle
I could I got the 30 Sliders
There place
12 French phrase
And six counties back
You can't
And Neil Patrick Harris comes in
Hey I'm gonna
Jock off for whatever
I can't remember the movie
I'm writing yourself, lad
I was talking to one guy
from England, okay? He's like,
oh, I'm from Birmingham
and I'll tell you, oh,
if I've seen that,
oh, I would have been radicalised.
If I was there, I would join the IRA.
Oh, I would have been so angry.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, fuck off, yeah.
I'd have to be like,
uh, thanks, man, thanks for support, you know.
I'll let the guy, the boys know.
That's the Irish equivalent of
I would have voted for Obama a third time.
Yeah, basically.
Yeah, he's like, oh, cheers, Paul.
That means a lot.
So it's Paul, that's his name in the film, Paul, okay, leading a jihad.
Right.
And the whole thing is, they see him.
And you know the first film people say it's a white saviour movie.
People are like, because it's all about, oh, so people accused the first one,
people hadn't read the book of being a white savior film because all these sand people
and they're kind of all.
Then Timothy Shalame is like, pleading.
white. Timmy Shalameen is white and the sand people normally
of the trade is like a black or Arab or
is he non-white. Is Zendaya one of the
sand people? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're called the Fremen. The
fremen? Yeah. Oh, yeah. You could have said that. Lead with that.
You said sand people like 30 times. I'm sweating
over here. The fremen. Yeah, and that's basically
literally called the free men. So they didn't want to be part of these
houses, you know, the house, the Trehees or
So they just went to this planet and they live nomadic.
Right.
So they live on a planet full of fucking sandworms, man.
But they know how to get around the sandworms.
They didn't know how to, the little place to go.
They have little these little holes to go into, you know.
Like tunnels.
They got burrows.
Kind of like we talk about Gaza.
Like there's like Darkonans.
Yeah.
Like Israel and they're like, we got to get those because there's all these little holes.
They didn't know how many freemen are in there.
Okay.
Yeah.
And they're hiding.
They're planning something.
Yes.
So it's basically.
Timney Chalemain joins Hamas
all right
Okay
Yeah now I got your interest
And they are like
You are the Messiah
But here's the thing
They think is Messiah
Because his mother
Is a part of evil
Space Nuns
And there's a very
healthy message in this film
Of do not trust women
Okay
Women are not trustworthy
In this film
Okay
Awesome
So there's a group
called the Betty Jesuits
They're space nerds
And they
play the long game, all right?
They're like the incels?
Yeah, no.
Hors. Worse won't let me fuck.
They're lady in cells.
They're right, no. No, they're basically,
they're pulling the string.
Fem cells, that's what they're called, by the way.
Are they?
Yeah.
Jeez, you know your stuff.
I'm too gay to know about that.
I'm like, they're ladies.
Queens.
But basically, the Benny Jessuits
have, Dave, so,
like, over a course of years,
they've been telling the Fremen about, like,
oh there's Messiah coming he'll be white
oh watch out because they want to
so they know religions go by to control people
so but you're saying they're all like
we worship you
we worship you Paul uh we worship you
we worship you he's like guys guys
I'm not the Messiah please it's basically
fucking life of Brian he's like yeah
and he's like you know I'm not the Messiah
and they're like the Messiah is so humble
he's like uh oh
yo dead ass guys I'm like not the Messiah
and shit so y'all tripping
Like, I appreciate the flowers and whatnot, but...
So you talk like that?
No, he does not.
He talks real stoic.
Oh, really?
And, like, he's very good, though.
He's very good of fighting.
He can ride the worm.
And it's an awesome scene.
So you have to get on the back of a worm.
So you have to jump on the back of a worm and just hang on.
And then you have these things you get, like, it's kind of described,
because you're going to take it stupid, James.
No.
There are little things you shoot out, all right?
And you can, like, harnesses, and you can ride the worm.
Right, okay.
Left, right, left.
right and the worm's going
and he's really good of riding
the worm so the fremen love him
that's how he got the part in the movie
oh bro
batte boy blood you gave me
man on a gleezy my main man
on the gleezy fam here I'm now
and the mother by the way
she goes mental
Ferguson is it
Rebecca Ferguson he plays
Timmy she plays Timmy's mother
and she's mental she's like
we gotta take more power
Timmy. We need more. We got to control these fucking freaks.
Yeah. And she's talking to her. She's got a baby inside her. Oh.
And she's like, the baby's talking to me. The baby wants more power.
And the baby's Anna Taylor Joy. Oh. Yeah. The baby's talking. Baby's like, more power.
And envisions Aunt Taylor Joy is like, I'm your future sister. You need to kill more people.
Wow. Yeah, it's fucking weird, man. It's creepy. Oh, it's so creepy.
How's she looking?
both of them are looking good
all of them are looking good man
oh okay
even fucking Josh Brolin's looking good
he's always looking good
by the way he's like the bodyguard
and he got lost in the chaos
but they find him afterwards
he's like
I got a bird
he's so awesome in this
because he's the whole thing
is like
I will do anything for you
my liege
and he's like
you know going around
shopping up he's fighting Dave Batista
oh it's so fucking good man
but the whole thing is
Timmy I'm just going to call him
Timmy now right
yeah Timmy Shamin
he is leading the people
and there's a resistance movement
so the evil empire keep coming
trying to get the spice
and these sand people again
pop out using guerrilla warfare
and they're destroying the machines
okay and the baron
still as stars guard is like
oh these damn sand people
we gotta kill them
but if we nuke the planet we can't get the sand
we gotta get
the craziest motherfucker out there
And that's where to get Austin Butler
A.k.a. Donald Rumsfeld.
The sexiest motherfucker it is.
And by the way, Austin Butler and this.
Bring in Dick Cheney.
Austin Butler and this is fucking great.
Okay.
He is, he's really won me over.
He's very, very menacing.
The whole thing is he's like,
Stella Sarsgaard, like, little cousin, all right?
And he's a proper freak.
He loves pain.
He's almost like a Hellraiser character.
He's like, they show him off.
he's got like a massacist
a massacist
a massacist yeah
show him off okay
he's got a bed
of three sexy bald
women all right
that he
fuck takes turns fucking
really
and his idea of fun is
just pre jeta pinkets
yeah
ready to go
you better not disrespect them
Chris Rock
better watch out
Chris Rock's like
oh so many jokes
so his idea of fun
he just brings women in
just cuts their trots
he just slices women's
trots
while the three hoars
in the bed
like yeah
oh yeah
it's very
sexual, okay? Yeah. Does he stick his dick in the
open neck wound? No. Oh, Denis. You've let me
this is why James won't watch it. Coward, pussy. Denise, God,
woke. Go woke, go broke. Yeah. So he, they basically hire him to like,
you got to go to Dune and take out these evil fremen. And that's
the rest of the film. It's like, it's Timmy, Timmy Shalameen and Josh Brolin and Zandaya
and the Fremen versus Austin Butler
and Batista
and fucking Stella Sarasgard
and it's nonstop okay
and it's a big, big war, okay?
But you're the most awesome part is
to have a big war
and Timmy Charlemagne wins the war
and this is so awesome.
He storms in to fucking Christopher Walken
the overall emperor, okay?
And Chris Walker's like,
why are you here?
Christopher Walken's very much
in his Richard Lewis' face.
Yeah, he really is.
He's really like,
but he sits down on his trove.
it's very, very gentle.
He's just on a golf cart the whole time.
Wow, he has a little spice.
You can have it.
Old spice.
He, he...
He's an old man.
He shows up, Timney Charlemagne.
He makes Christopher walking get on one knee
and kiss the ring.
Hell yeah, dude. He's like, I'm your fucking emperor,
right? On the daddy now.
Yeah, he's like that. I know it's so awesome.
With the whole time in the film, you're like,
yeah get him defeat the empire
who like that
and everyone's on Timmy Salamein's side
apart from Zandaya
Zandaya's the one who's bit like
you know like maybe we should
not kill everyone you know
she's a bit of the beatneck
all right
she does peace
the wet blanket
yeah yeah
and ghost at the feast
you know what's so funny
so he he defeats
Christopher walking
right
the evil the adversary you know
is so fucking big
you know so strong
the feast Chris are walking
her right
The teacher is terrified of Christopher Warren.
In hand-to-hand combat.
Tell that big butto-a-tory retard,
I'm going to stick a watch up his ass.
You're still better than Dwayne Johnson.
It ends, okay, with them being like,
the rest of the houses,
don't accept you as emperor, Timmy Salomein.
Timmy Salomein is saying, you know what?
We're going to Holy War.
We're killing everyone.
Innocence, I don't care.
Awesome.
This is the, the,
pat to eternal glory.
Everyone goes like, yeah, la la la la.
And they're all screaming, they're killing people.
Zandaia looks sad.
That's how the film ends.
Wow.
It ends with jihad.
It ends with like, I am your emperor.
He completely accepts this.
A star, he's like, I'll use this to help to defeat the emperor.
In that event, he starts believing, he's like, I actually am the emperor.
I've seen the future.
I will live for a thousand years.
Was he doing the spice?
Oh, he's doing spice.
he does spice
but also
he does something
that no
very few people
have done
they get a baby worm
and they squeeze it
and he drinks the blue
jizz
adrenochrome
he gets
he drinks blue
adrenachrome
out of a baby
the baby worm's like
help
help
he's like
you'll be in
poltergeist
he drinks
the blue juice
okay
and then he's like
I am a god
and man
it's so
Timmy Chalabain
okay
little fella
yeah
There's a bit that he walks up to all these big guys
All these Javier Bardems and all that
He's like, shut the fuck up
I am your god
You and you were a little baby
Your granny died
And you hid under the stairs
You cried
I know your life
You are my puppet
You are my pawn
Shut the fuck up
Like I love you
I love you yeah
He goes pure
You know what it's Godfather 2
Really?
Yeah no Godfather 1
It's like his slow
Change
He's still changed
He's still changed from like
Hey Mrs Puccine
no, hey, to like, wah, like that.
Hey, I'm the emperor.
And that's how the, that's how the book ends.
Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
And that's how it ends.
And when you're watching it, you're like, oh, I guess, whoopee.
Is there another book?
There is, yeah.
There's actually six books.
So, do you want me to just go through the books real quick?
I feel like you're going to.
I am, yeah.
You have no choice.
It's like going to ask a girl, oh, no.
Do you want what you doing?
I was going to make a joke there.
I was like, nah, the free one.
I won't do that.
Come on.
I talked about sticking your dick
in an open wound.
This is a safe space, brother.
Well, I'll just go through.
So the next book, all right?
Is it going to be another movie?
There is, yeah.
Okay.
The next book's about Dune Messiah.
And Dune Messiah is about the collapse of this.
Dune Messiah is about Timney Chalameen becomes emperor,
but there's so much chaos and like his kids become evil.
Like Gaddafi?
Goddafi is.
Wow.
It's sexy.
Well, no.
Gadafi was sexy.
Gadafi was sexy.
Gdafi was sexy.
a piece of age.
Oh, my God.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, to be that bayonet, they shoved up his asshole.
So the next book's about, basically, Timmy Salameen, I don't know, they'll have to wait a few years.
Because about him being older, he's got kids.
Yeah, or could they recast?
They could, yeah.
They could recast, like, Adam Driver or somebody.
That could work, yeah.
Or Adam Brody.
Hey, you know, Adam Sandler.
of course, yeah.
Oh, now we're talking.
I got you going.
Yeah, I do.
Oh, I want to have some spice.
Oh, it's too spicy.
He gets diarrhea from the spice.
Yeah, it's funny, yeah?
But anyway, it's about his kids.
And basically, I think the second book against Spider's game,
the second book is, it all goes tits up.
He realizes how, I think he does something,
I forget, he does something really evil, okay?
And he's like, you know what?
I've gone too far.
And he just quits the whole thing.
He walks out to the desert to die.
Wow.
He just like, just like, I've gone too far.
I am not your Messiah.
Yeah.
Do not follow me.
And he goes out, all right?
And that's how the second book ends.
The third book is all about his kids.
And the kids are like, dad's gone.
Let's be more evil.
Woo!
It's like a house party.
Don't tell dad the babysitter's dead.
Coming this summer.
Oh, boy.
And I think the third book then ends.
with like um something bad happens to his son his son is called leo two du k o2 and i think it ends
with like a stranger kind of the desert and being like son you've failed me and it's an old man
and you know what it is it's timothy shallame so again i don't know how you do that right
you want to know how the next book the book that's the first three books right so first three
books are like their own contained cycles about um you know rising and falling about like you know
how good your intentions are it's basically what is the message
is no matter how good you are, you'll turn evil and your kids will be basically useless, right?
So kind of like succession, you will turn evil and your children incompetent.
Yeah.
That is the, that's basically the story of life right there.
That's the empire, right?
Yeah, it's a Shakespearean, it's a Greek tragedy, it's kind of all the great storytelling.
Yeah, yeah, it's the hero's, the retard's journey, right?
So the fourth book, right, is about Duke Leo's son.
so only his son, like Timothy Chalmayne's son.
Is this still Frank Herbert?
Yeah, Frank Herbert.
How many did he write?
Six.
And then his son took over?
Yeah, yeah.
So, life imitating art, his retarded son takes over.
Man, I see, that's so good.
Yeah.
That's so good.
I'm going to steal that, actually.
Well, you can have it, yeah.
Who am I going to say that to?
He's saying to me, I'm pretty high.
I'll probably forget.
The next episode, I'm like, geez, I'll be ruminating on something.
You probably wouldn't make this connection, you know.
It's two sons.
for you, pal,
but yeah,
that's so good,
actually,
yeah.
Now the fourth book,
right,
is again the sun,
but this time
the sun has just basically
he was like,
well,
if dad hates me,
I'll do even more spice.
And now he's a big,
uh,
worm.
Right.
And he's,
he's,
he's a thousand years old.
Wow.
Yeah,
he's like,
the whole thing about him
is he's seen the future
to past and he's completely checked out.
He's like,
life has no meaning anymore.
Wow.
Yeah.
And it's about all these wars happening.
Okay,
so all the houses are
fighting and all the people worship me
like what should we do and he's like
man you're going to die either way
everything's meaning I know how you die you're going to
die in two days you're going to fall
down the stairs shut up so he's basically
Rick from Rick and Morty
just like annoying and depressed
yeah hey nothing means
innocent so I'm sad
but I'm really smart
um blah blah blah yeah
get shifty
you gotta get spicy
oh get spicy
Yes
Yeah
Now for some reason
Deni Bill knew
He said he'll film
The next book
But that's it
Okay
His words were
They get a little bit
Too esoteric for him
Right
Yeah
Because they do get weird
And they also
Get more
More like
Into the future
So like book
Five is like
5000 years
From the first book
Right
And it's about like
The great great
Great great great
Great great great great great great great great great great great great great great great
Great great great great great great
Timmy Chalamain
But the kind of
The consistent thing in the book is
Jason Mamoa is in the first film
Yeah
And he plays one of the bodyguards
His name is Duncan
And the whole thing is
The Duncan was such a good warrior
They clone him multiple times
So he's the kind of consistent thing
So there's always a Duncan
Wow
So like
I imagine Jason Mamoa's hoping
Let's keep this going baby
Oh yeah
Because Duncan becomes the main character after a while
Really?
Yeah after a while
It's like Duncan
and then a bunch of descendants from
other characters. Am I wrong in saying
he's not a very good actor?
You would be wrong in the sense
of not Aquaman, you'd be right
in his Aquaman acting, all right?
And Justice League and nearly everything
actually. Yeah, yeah. But in
Dune... Except the one where he raped
the 14-year-old. That was good.
That wasn't a movie, James. What? What was
a TV show? What was this?
Well, Game of Thrones. In the book,
Dineries is 14, but
Amelia Clark was of age.
okay right sorry I was being facetious I just didn't know I was like what film is this
you shouldn't be watching this team without me it's paredral guidance yeah yeah I know I guess
maybe I've never seen Jason Mamoa in a good film watch him in this he's good in this
but again he is kind of like the he's not like doesn't much to do he's just like a soldier who's
very very good look tough and do good fighting and then he gets killed off in the first film yeah
And then the whole thing is like, they're like, we'll keep his DNA for later.
Right.
Ooh, sequel.
And then, like, he's in...
Franchise.
Yeah.
He's in, like, the first six novels.
And then there was meant to be Dune 7, the end of the whole thing.
Right.
And the son, Frank Herbert died.
Right.
And his son took over.
And the son has released at least 28 books.
That's mental.
Yeah, yeah.
It just, it's you only like Star Wars.
Every character has their own prequel and sequel.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Every character is like
There's like all prequels
There's all these different books
These three books take place
Between Dune 1 and Dune 2
And these four books take place
Between Dune 4
So remember the bit where
Tim Echalame went away for a day
Yeah
This is this crazy adventure
Right okay
And he also introduced robots
Into he was like
What about does robots there as well
And then his evil robots
And then
And how were his books received?
A lot of them
think
I don't like
as well
his name
is Brian
Brian is
a shit son
I'm like
what I've heard
that before
Yeah they do
don't like it
Oh fire and nickel
Yeah
They don't like them
They think they're boring
There's lack of talent
Yeah
You're untalented
You're a freak
You've got classes
You look like
Billy Elish's brother
They're
That was a Patreon
actually
Yeah well
If they want to get that
They know where they
No, sub to the page.
The page was very, very good.
Yeah, man.
And there was no Dune talking.
No, it wasn't.
If you're like, oh, my God, Brian's on one again.
I feel like I really ruined the podcast.
Sometimes I edit it.
I edit the podcast sometimes.
Yeah.
I don't realize, there's so many jokes you say that I literally don't understand.
Oh, really?
I swear to God, so many times.
Like, what's an example?
I can't take example now, but like, so many times you do a joke and I'm like, as I'm
redist him, I'm like, oh, now I get it.
Yeah.
Oh, he was referencing something I said.
earlier oh yeah
I should have laughed at that
well too late now
yeah and I can hear
him cutting himself in the bathroom
making a mess
I could just say something but it's better for him
to keep him on his toes
well sometimes
I'm guilty of making
such an obscure
schizophrenic barely competent
reference that is just
so tenuously
tied to reality
it makes no sense
at all so you know you can
be forgiven I need to get high to understand
yeah yeah actually a guy
sent me something
it's very well done
it's like a he's a drug dealer
all right oh he's made this like
fancy poster of all his
drugs and his prices
nice I'll show it to you yeah yeah yeah
it's very well done I actually text him
I was like I don't want any drugs but I love
to work
And does he deliver?
No, you have to take a picture of yourself
Okay
And your clothes
My clothes?
Clothes
The stuff you wear
Yeah
Yeah
You have to take a picture of your clothes
And your face
Right
Not a full body
For some reason
Okay
And then you have to like
Tell them exactly
Where you're gonna meet up
All right
Yeah, just keeps things spicy
Well you know
A lot of dealers
Just
On
Look all this
Oh wow
It looks like a festival poster
Does yeah
Yeah
Look he's got like a little cat
There and like a
woman.
It's awesome.
Yeah. Sugar cane. I don't even know what these
are. Weed. Kittles.
Weehe. What is this?
Wacky shit.
The stuff that grows in my garden.
Actually, somebody, I did a gig
there in Crash and
Byrne. And
just because I mentioned weed, then
somebody gave me, like, a lump of
weed. Just like, there you go, pal.
Have that. Just, like, gave me a
nice sweet chunk of weed. Usually
if somebody hears me, like,
talk about weed.
Because you're on stage, you're like,
give me some weed, please.
Give me dropped.
They'll be like, oh, do you want
to come smoke a joint?
And I'll like, yeah, okay.
But then I got to like hang out with them and talk to them,
which is fine.
But this guy goes, here, mate,
there's a wee bit of weed for free.
I enjoyed your set.
I was like, thank you, sir.
I don't get that.
Yeah.
People don't want to talk to me after show.
I've noticed that because from doing the haypenny,
sometimes I'm like, you know,
I'm doing, I think I'm doing well on stage.
I'm like, oh, it's be fun, you know.
And sometimes I hang around at the door.
of the women's bathroom.
I'm like, they'll probably compliment me
as they walk the past.
And they don't.
And they'll go to someone else
be like, oh, it's a great set.
Oh, I loved all your stuff
by Monaghan.
I'm here as well.
I'm not from Monaghan.
I try this heartily.
Also in the club we run,
they leave so quickly.
Well, it's late though.
They've got to get the last bus.
No, they shouldn't.
They should stay.
They should stay.
They give me weed.
and dance the night away
let's party down babes
well I tell you I did a fucking gig
in Galway it was a competition
and I was on first
and it was kind of like a
you had to compete against people
so you had to start with two minutes
so I got up
first one on two minutes
was like basically
eliminated straight away
so after two minutes
you didn't get a hostel around you did you
what?
Oh no no I got a lift back
good good because it's not worse than like
Well, now I'm in Galway.
Yeah, yeah.
But it was really...
Where's the prostitutes?
I was the first one on and then immediately eliminated.
Then I just had to sit there while everyone's having a good time.
And like, people are like, you okay, James?
Like, yeah, fine.
Really?
Having a good time.
Yeah, it's great.
Yeah, yeah, it was just...
I can really, I can really see you doing that.
Yeah. I like, I didn't want to be...
Because I was like, ah, whatever, it's grand.
But, you know, it's just...
Yeah, the black dog, you know?
I felt like a real
Randolph Churchill
What was his name
Rudolf?
Rudolf Churchill
Again a Patreon joke
Guys
Yeah you know where to go
Man the green-eyed monster
Doesn't always get me
It's weird
I could see someone
banging my girlfriend
Yeah
And you know
banging my dad even
Yeah
And I'd be like
Yeah whatever
But it's just sometimes like
It's kind of gets you
Sometimes like someone makes a joke
And people laugh
And like
It wasn't actually that funny
Yeah
fucking freak
Yeah
I know
I'll try to make
a joke as well
but it's a bit too fast
you know
so like
so you know
it's not all
just it doesn't always
go well for me either
how's your
you've been gigging a lot
it's not always
free weed
and a pat on the back
sometimes it's a long night
of silence
and cold
desolate isolation
well what
how are the gigs
been going
you've been pretty busy
yeah
I can't
by the way
I have to talk
to James's agent now
I love like
is he he's like
James is busy
I'm like well I can see
behind you
he's he's watching
dude too
he's told me he didn't like
doing with brawny
him and brawny are very good
friends now but
brawny says he doesn't
care for you Brian so you're not
invited
the gigs were going well the crunch was very
very fun yeah it was great
you were texting us positive things
I was in the group chat
I was drinking
oh good good you know I was worried
I was like this is the calm before
a storm. And you were right
because then two days later
I'm in Galway like
oh what's the fucking point of anything?
I'm a worthless
cunt and then
I was like literally like lying
in bed and I say what's
I should just stop like this is
terrible you know I'm worthless I should not
this is awful and then I do
like a five minute spot and get a lump of waiting
and I'm like hey I'm back all right
we're in the money
we're in the I'm such a
bipolar,
like hysterical.
I'm basically Marilyn Monroe.
I'm just like a big
titted drug addict mentally ill
freak. It's just like
anyway. But anyway.
It's been going good though. It's been fun.
And you got two shows
coming up now? Yes.
Tuesday, Wednesday. In the heapenny?
Heypenny, yeah. Do you want to host any of them?
I suppose, well... Well, it's just
me and you. We got no Gary. Oh, where's
Gary? I think he's off in
Antrim or
Antwerp
Antwerp
One of them
Yeah yeah yeah
I welcome to Antwerp
The one with the more IRA lads in it
Yeah
Well yeah I'll host one
You host the other
Look we'll discuss this all here
No people like to hear
The business of show
But wait
So Dune
And also they voted no on the referendum
Oh yeah
By the way
I listen to
Multiple podcasts
About the referendum
I listen to Celtic Ligers.
Okay. Alright? I still have no idea
Because the problem is when I'm listening to a podcast about politics
I'm like, I'll listen to this, I'm really getting to a nitty-gritty
and now I know I'll be the informed voter.
Now I'm listening to it while I'm wanking or driving or boat, you know.
And then at the end of like, I have no idea what they're saying.
Yeah. I know I've got jizz on my windshield
and a speeding ticket.
Oh my cock.
Do you know how fast?
you're a wank in there.
Have you any drink taken?
Do you, did you vote?
I like voting.
You can hang around the school and no one asks questions.
It's my favorite time of the ears.
I get to just be here and nobody can say a darn thing.
There's no busy bodies.
But you probably, when you're voting,
you probably can't just hang around the place
be like, yeah, nice.
Yeah.
Yeah. Do you vote here often, do you?
Little more.
Back at the old stomping ground,
because is it in your primary school?
It is, but the primary school is so different now
I don't recognize it at all.
Yeah, same.
Yeah.
As soon as we left.
Yeah, the children,
I tell you, they didn't look like that
when I went here.
What's going on now?
I try to go into a voting booth.
It's a woman in a burq.
Oh, sorry.
I don't mind.
Apologies.
Are these children non-binary
because they better not be there?
Justice for Burke
So they lost anyway
I'll be honest with you
100% honest
I have no idea how I vote even
There was two bits of paper
One was green and one was white
And I forgot which one was which
And the thing is like you go behind there
And if you spend those time looking around
In my head people are like
He doesn't know what the papers mean
Freak shame
He can't get it up in there
Do I get a magazine or something?
Something, I mean, what am I supposed to do here, you know?
I need some assistance.
You come back with, like, some sperm.
There you go, a little bit extra for you.
Ah, God.
We really bring, we bring politics alive, you know.
I didn't vote, I must say.
I wasn't able to get home, unfortunately.
Oh, I usually would vote.
It's not like I was fucked.
I don't know, like it's funny
If voting really changed anything
They'd make it illegal
Woo!
Actually, out of interest
I'm going to look up a list of referendums
Because I think like
I just heard the radio
It was a very, very low turnout.
Yeah.
But the thing is, it was so
fucking vague
The people didn't understand it
And then like
The big sticking point
For a lot of people
Like, I don't think
So it was changing the language
In the Constitution
that says a woman
needs to stay in the home
nobody
like thinks
like nobody has a problem
with that being changed
except
apart from like
all right retards
whatever
the thing
that was
a bit of people
and left
had problems
with some of this
as well
but not
not with that
though
what they had
an issue
with which is
the far more
pertinent issue
was the carer's allowance
yeah
wasn't it like
they're going to put
disabled people
in a river
yes
in the same
river
oh
imagine that stank
of that river
You're going to affect the drinking water.
Yeah, yeah.
Now, what was it now?
It's like fluoride.
Fluoride in the water.
If you put disabled children in the water,
it lowers the IQ of the population.
No, what is, I'm all joking aside.
I'm not even 100% sure,
but I think it was something along the lines of
basically minimizing,
minimizing the government's responsibility
to help out financially
for people who have care status.
who look after somebody in their home
who is a condition or an illness or whatever.
So I think from what I know from Celtic Ligers,
which is a very good podcast,
there's something that was a guarantee
and they're changing it to,
the government will strive to attempt.
It was like very, very vague.
And someone was like,
ah, this won't work.
And I tell you what really...
I was going to say something,
but it won't be funny.
Who on?
Well, it's funny when you play the clip,
all right
but it's not funny
you want to describe
basically
on Celtic Lagers
for saying
it's like
it's like
you won't sleep
at Sophie's mom
he's like
I tried not to
but then
on Celtic Lagers
they played the clip
I was like
peep show is very funny
yeah
do they have the
copyright license
in agreement
no
yeah
well maybe they could be
getting a phone call
you get a little letter
from Robert
Webb Webb
on his death bed
he was like
a week and a half away from a
fatal heart attack. Yeah, it's heart like
Yeah, it was very, very weak
apparently. Oh, really? Yeah. Obviously
some kind of like genetic. Thicky tummy, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. But, so
another thing that really
didn't help was that fucking clip of
Varadkar on like...
Can I mean honest, I didn't see this clip, but just heard people
talk about the clip. It was, you know,
I can see why it annoyed people.
He was eating a baby.
Oh,
is it just me or to the white babies
always tastes better, you know.
Yes, that's
exactly what it was, Brian.
And the crazy
alt-right freaks
took his shoe with it. Oh,
a gay man can't eat a baby
live on television.
So,
he was on, like,
some talk show or whatever, and then,
you know, he was basically like, you know,
my parents, you know, when they need
care, I will look after them. Personally,
I don't think it should be the government's response.
ability. And he sort of kind of
laughed about it. It's like,
mate, you fuck it. Like, it was just so
elitist, out of touch.
He's coming from...
It's such a place of privilege. It's just like,
man, are you fucking... Like, how dumb are you?
That's stuff he say
when the cameras aren't on you. You're laughing at them all.
Yeah. With me.
Like, surely, I mean,
I don't know, maybe the coke is
ruined his brain. I... Now, can I tell you
some political insights now?
I know someone
I've forgotten the story
Wait no no
I know someone
A real Woodward and Bernstein here
In Watergate
Something's happening
I don't know what
Let's just say my mother's got a deep throat
According to the guys I went to school with
No sorry I remember now
I know a girl who
knows people who work in the
the Belgium kind of like political
kind of, I don't know, like, like, Parliament?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And they were telling me that like,
Varadkar went over.
Right.
One time.
And he meant to have a meeting at eight.
And he came that night and just went straight to partying.
Wow.
He's partying with lads, okay?
He's hooked up with someone, all right?
Went back to Dare Gaff.
Did he even bring him back to his hotel where it's safe, okay?
Yeah.
Went back to some, some fucking, I don't know,
fucking Fernando, the fireman, okay, yeah?
Is it okay that I live
in bowling average?
Yes, absolutely fine.
As long as I don't have to wear those ugly shoes.
Yes, of course, yes.
Well, as long as you don't mind
putting your fingers in my holes.
I don't understand
Checksy Pange, but yes.
So basically, the Belgium
security team that they had, okay,
and the Irish team, now their job is to follow him,
all right
and they have to pick
out he's like
get me a cab
and he's like
he's like
I want food
yeah
so he's just
waking off
some lad
in the toilets
of a
cabab shop
it's like
uh
anybody you want
yeah
yeah
and then he's just like
I know
him
whatever he's done
okay
he's a trooper
though
because then he's up
eight
with the suit on
like
nice to meet you
yeah
so
oh I'm
well I'm a little
worse
for wear
ha ha ha ha
you know
a bit
bit of jet lag
you know
it was like
like 30 minutes
yeah
yeah
he calls a jet
He's got like
Coke
his hat
He's like a lump
of coke
to the side of his
face
and a lump of cheese
on the other side
Not to be homophobic
now
Like I'm sure
Like
I'm sure like
Yeah
Enda Kenny
I'm sure
But I think
Endo is more like
Pints
And then like
Fuck some like
Fat Woman
You know
You're like
You know like
Tiger Woods
Just bagging waitressing
Yeah
That's End the Kenny
It's like
Just bagging some girl
Back behind
Supermax
You know
Brian
Cohen, what would his
preference be?
I think he's like
internet pornography. I think he's like
a sad... That's respectable.
Yeah, yeah. He's really into like
AI porn and stuff. Yeah, he was a really
he saw the future.
He loves anime girls. He's just
wanking off the hentai. Yeah.
Where are we talking about? The referendum.
Referendum, yeah.
Sorry, I went a bit
weird. Yeah.
We were just, we could have talked about that for
an hour straight. And Charlie
Hawley, I bet he would like the
I betcha he loved Fanny as well, what?
Yeah, behind the green door.
He was a real gangster all together, brown envelopes for everyone, what?
And I'm not talking about the brothel in Zimbabwe.
What, which is I to you, to you, to me, whey, Jesus, what?
Yeah, having a bloody laugh.
So there are a friend of lost.
A little bit close to the line there.
But anyway,
the referendum did not go true.
Yes.
I see this big failure for the government.
Yes.
Apparently last time the bill was this low,
it was an adoption referendum.
Really?
Yeah, there's something about like,
it's adoption, you know.
Is it for freaks or what?
Man, we've had a lot of referendums.
I don't know if any country has...
I mean, obviously there's the marriage equality bill
and the repeal the AIDS.
and all that stuff. I voted for all
of those, you know? I was
on the right side of history. What
good did it do me?
So, like, there was a
divorce rights, the one about blasphemy?
What? I don't understand what I'm looking at here.
Sorry, guys. Yeah. The age of
Oh, Candacy. All right.
You've got excited there.
Let's move on something else, guys.
We're almost at the hour there.
Andy, you want to talk about James for you.
Well, I tell you, I watched that
was it on this one
or the war mode one we talked about
Patreon the war mode troubles
we're not war mode
oh you're right we're not
I actually want to watch that
I tell you
it's just
let them know what it is
well war mode is a podcast
by two
Philly bros
but they're like Irish American
but one of them is very like
fascinated with the troubles
so we actually came over to Ireland
and he like turned around
he went to Dublin
Belfast, Derry
And he interviewed like a bunch of
You know
X IRA lads
Like lads that were H block blanket
Man like in the blanket protest
How is the actual production of it?
That's the thing
It's quite amateurish
Is it like if I did it
To be honest
The thing about it
It's not really a documentary
It's just kind of a series of
Audio interviews
With like B-roll footage
Of like you know the troubles
And landscape shots
Like Adam Curtis.
Yeah, but then also, interestingly enough, at the start, more so, for the first maybe 20 minutes,
you're actually here in Billy and Spud, and, like, it's like, oh, whoa, what's, what's this?
Like, oh, yeah, that's when I was there with these guys and, yeah, yeah, yeah.
But they, they, they stopped that pretty quickly.
Does it come back to that?
No, no, no, no, then it just ends.
And then, I tell you, it does meander towards the end, he's sitting with three guys who are all in H-block.
They're talking about being, like, in the blank.
could protest and just like the beatings and the humiliation that they were forced to endure
from the prison guards and the thing is there's like four them all talking over each other
and a lot of the there's no subtitles and obviously I had no problem understanding it because
you know yeah you'd understand it but like a lot of Americans are like hey I don't know what
the fuck these guys are saying yeah it's like I'm tan the nash out there and the bloody brach
in the provoes like you know what I mean and the screws you know what I mean yeah
Like, what do you want about, like, eh?
It's not even, it's not even like accents.
It is accents, okay.
It's also, like, even just like there's, like, the screws and all that.
Yeah, like slang terms and another thing is like, we'd be very familiar with IRA, UDA, UVF, RUC.
But like, to an American, that's just letters.
Like, they're not going to, you know, it's hard to keep track.
UVF stands for a big black cough.
Uh, yes.
But, uh, I just commend Spud for actually going to Ireland and sitting down with,
like old ratheads and
talking to them. There's a type of
American person that like they don't
really have, I'm not saying this is him
now but like a lot of them like this is like
seem like Chappelle went to Africa
it's kind of like you know what I mean
it's kind of like there's like when
Pilgrimage back to the homeland
they do need they kind of
there's something there
where they're like oh no I'll go
it's like Pilate and someone's like
oh I'll go to Ireland and I'll just
absorb the and we get to all
time and doing shows and yeah
in Haypenny as well
people show up as like
my grandmother was from here
so I'm coming here now to get
to find myself
because their country really doesn't
have a history as such
they were you know
founded in 1776
like you know
another thing about this documentary
that I commend now obviously
was more so the interviewees
but they were talking about how it goes back
to the time of like
Oliver Plunkett and Cromwell
and like you know
King James and
like really like laying down the foundation
and roots of how this
you know like the the land barons
like the lords that came over and took over land
like Dune. Yeah I guess
and now I'm now
now I'm something I was like oh so the IRA
are like different oh yes yes
now I'm good yeah but um
in terms of production it's quite
it's a bit amateurish but I commend it
how long is it? It's like two hours
like an hour 50 minutes I'll be honest
I listened to
they released as a podcast
and I didn't understand
what was
I thought it was
them talking about
the documentary they made
with random clips
put in
but that's just how it starts
that's just how it starts
yeah
Spud says something weird
I didn't know
100% if he meant
I probably misheard it
because I was in pennies
listening to it by the way
as you should
where I go to a list
to all historical
podcasts
we're listening a good podcast
with the Holocaust
I go to pennies
just really just chill out there
right
my god but like um
zones of
zones of interest on my phone and pennies
oh it's devastating
yeah
are you gonna try that on
lov are you
them jeans
I just stand there with no jeans on
I'm going to try them on the minute lov right
I want to give me a pair of
striped pajamas I really want to get
into the mood for this movie
what's my point
do you have any uniforms by Hugo
boss by a chance
Oh, that's very good
Yeah, they don't talk
shit about them though
They might get advertising
You said Spud said something weird
Oh yeah, he said something
He was like
Yeah, in Ireland
You vote
It's like how many houses you have
So you have two houses
You got two votes
Yeah
Is that, was that true?
I don't know
I didn't know if he meant
In the past or now
I didn't know if he taught that
And I was like
I'm pretty sure that's not how it worked
No, I don't think that is that work
I don't know if that was in the past
You had two houses
It probably was back in like many
Evil times
I know, but you talk about
Troubles. I don't even Jordan Troubles. I don't know.
Here's thing. It wasn't the most well-informed
and obviously, because we're from
Ireland and like I'm from the border
so I... You're quite familiar
with a lot of it. You're with the screws.
Yeah. Get them, boys.
Let them, make them wash their hair
and their smelly buns.
Let's get them, boys.
Hair is, I shish, we can't hear.
But I actually did, I like,
I commented on it and then I
added a link to the episode that we did about
steak knife
steak knife yeah it's called the IRA man who loved animal
porn see you get your attention man
yeah that's what I tried man you're doing good work there
yeah yeah yeah you earned that bit of weed you got
I did I smoked it all
I was my investment
and I had hallucinations
it's all pointless the past the present's all happening at once
time is a flat circle
It's an interesting little experiment
I'd be intrigued to see if they could do more
Yeah, I'd be interesting what kind of topic to cover next
You kind of wonder like how mental are they going to go there
And how badly was hurt Shane's career
Yeah
God, it's very funny that he's like, you know
He's like on SNL and hanging out with like Jack Harlow
Spud is just a dairy with a bunch of
of like 60 year old provost
and we were shaking
on the walls and rubbing
the shaked everywhere and we weren't
we weren't fucking washing ourselves
because that's all we could do
to protest. No way
dude that's crazy. Oh my God.
And the lad's like
do you know where's Jack Harlow?
Is Le Maire coming?
Where's La Mesee? This is
two. Who is this for?
Who is this for? Nobody's going to get this.
This is beyond
schizophrenic.
please
I know
yeah
I'll tell you
I bought James
a copy of
Private Eye
yeah
it's
Britain's
premier satirical
newspaper
I've heard
you talking about it
and nobody
it's been going
since the 60s
what does that tell you
it's been going since the 60s
you've read every copy
I've got a new purpose in life
I'm getting the back issues
what are like some of the more
famous things
that Private Eye have
well the most famous thing is
let me just look this up
so I'll get it wrong
They're the most sued newspaper
I think in Britain
And Ian Hizlop, he runs it
Oh, have I got news for you
And he's like one of the most sued men in Britain
Wow
Actually, let me look up private
I like Ian Hislop
So they do, it's like their whole policy
Is a spoonful of sugar
So you have real stories in there
And then they're throwing jokes as well
Kind of like our podcast, you know
Yeah
Because they can't handle the truth
You know, we're like, you know
The troubles were bad
So we have to throw in lots of funny voices
And talk with Dune for a while
just to get people on side.
Of course, yeah.
Yeah.
So I'm going to look up
like the criticisms
and stuff like that.
So,
like,
I'm trying to look up
on the big things
they got complained about.
I know,
I think it was my,
is it Myra Hinley?
Oh,
yeah,
one of the Moors murders.
I think it was her.
Let me double check that,
but basically they ran a story
that like she was getting
loads of money off
like the son or something
that published like all these like stories
like,
my fact up life.
Oh, right.
Yeah,
and she was like making a really good living
off these stories like
more life than prison
you know all this stuff
yeah and it wasn't true
well no it was true but she still
she still sued them
okay for libel
how can it be liable if it's
true well that's the thing
they won in the end
ah right okay yeah but one stage
they're going to sue like for 600
oh sorry Sonia Sutcliffe
that was it
oh Sutcliffe wife of a Peter
the Yorkshire Ripper
the Yorkshire Ripper
yeah yeah yeah and
At one stage, he had to give her
60,000 pounds.
Sorry, sorry, I'm wrong.
At one stage he was ordered to pay
600,000 pounds, which is the highest case of
libel ever in history.
And he got talked down to 60,000.
Wow.
Yeah, but that's still quite a lot.
Yeah, it's good negotiating, though.
Yeah, you suppose it's better than nothing, yeah.
Good for Sonia Sutcliffe, I suppose.
You know, your husband's, you know, the Yorkshire Ripper.
Hey, girl, if he's,
out there and murdering prostitutes
and having sex with their bodies
you gotta get yours girlfriend
oh yeah
so like I don't know too much about
private eye but I'm interested in it like
why did you but you bought a copy of private
eye and the Phoenix yeah the Phoenix
is the Irish version of it
so it's not as good even more
irrelevant version oh man they got
look they got advertisements here for things we love
look like what
it's morning glory with PJ
and Jim
that's not PJ
is it? What is?
Yeah, it is. You're right.
You're fucking fool.
You can't.
I think I've let this is not interesting
for the podcast, yeah.
I'm just looking at it.
Oh yeah.
Really, you're reading the Phoenix.
Like, come on.
Just mining for gold,
huh?
Well, no, it's just like,
I always,
ever since I was a kid,
I've always seen the Phoenix
and private eye on the stands.
Yeah.
I got these, like, the local,
the shop,
there's a little shitty shop
near I work, right?
Right.
Whereas all full of old people
with nowhere to go.
Don't buy anything.
No, yeah.
And they've got really mingy-looking dogs.
They've all got real weird-looking dogs, okay?
And there's all these old people
that stand there, like, shivering.
And I'm like, get on my way.
I've got to buy private eye.
It was a methadone clinic, Brian.
Look at all these smelly old freaks.
Where's the newspapers?
It was school for the blind.
Oh, with your mingy dogs.
Why is this magazine in Braille?
Well, I ended on this, actually.
Have you ever heard of
Mad Sam DeStefano.
Mad Sam DeStefano?
Yeah.
No.
He's this...
I like this, by the way.
You're bringing me stories here.
So he was a gangster in Chicago,
in like the...
So the very famous Chicago crime syndicate
called The Outfit, right?
Yeah, okay.
So it was a big, huge crime syndicate.
And Mad Sam DeStefano
was reputed as the most sadistic
and easy.
evil, fucked up, like, killer in, like, the whole outfit.
So he was, it was weird.
He was, like, he was very good financially.
So he made a lot of money with, like, various property deals.
And, like, so he was always able to beat charges and stuff like that.
But he was also incredibly unhinged and sadistic.
Yeah.
And he was a proclaimed Satanist.
He said that the devil spoke to him and he was working through, the devil was working.
through him. Sorry, when was this
again? This is like
like the
so he made a vague
decades here. Probably like the
60s, 70s was when he
was at, okay. No, probably a bit before that actually
40s to 60s was when he was at his most
infamous. Right, okay. His first conviction
was like 1927
he got charged with rape
him, like I get him and a few lads
because the devil. Did a gang rape.
No, that was just peer pressure. He was like, don't blame
the devil or that. That was all me. The
Puerto Ricans even worse
but he was like so he had like
a whole like torture chamber set up
in his gaff okay but he was just like
he was just like very unhinged
he would like throw these like
hysterical fits where like
one second he'd be laughing
and then the next he'd be bawling
crying and then he'd like start
foaming at the mouth and it's like
Satan I command thee Satan
you know he was just a full blown
mentalist and like he was just
so he was a lone shark as well
so what he liked to do was hand out loans to people he knew couldn't pay him back
yeah so then he had an excuse to take them and torture them and kill them they hold like
this is like in the 40s and 50s like you know this is really you know it's a business you know
it's crying but it's a business but he really took pleasure in the more sadistic elements yeah
yeah yeah and obviously he was very unhinged as well but like he'd also do things like when
the feds would come round he'd come down his pajamas and he'd have just his peatistic
it's flopped outside
hey boys what can I do you for
it sounds like diplomatic immunity
yeah yeah and one time
he pissed in their coffee and like
told the wife to tell them
like two FBI agents that it was made
from the purest Italian coffee
bean
and you guys sounds fun apart for the rapes
yeah yeah the murder
and the oh another fucking weird one
is there so one night he's just
driving around this lad's just walking
home from work
fucking man
Mad Sam gets out of the car, puts a gun on him, says,
get in the back seat, drives him to his house.
Yeah.
Like Mad Sam drives this randomer back to his house and takes him into his wife
and forces the wife to suck the guy's dick while he watches.
Because apparently she annoyed him about something.
So that was like punished me and say,
I'm going to make you suck off some random dude because you are nagging at me.
And what happened to the guy?
He, like, he ran, like, he got out of there.
he ran straight to the police station.
Sir, they suck my cock.
Well, he was afraid that he was going to get accused of rape.
Oh.
Then this one other really fucked up stories, this guy.
This guy sounds, it's entertaining.
It's insane.
Like, I was kind of reading it.
I was, the reason why I'm bringing it up, because it's like, how have I never heard of this guy?
Yeah.
He's fucking crazy.
So this guy, fucking owed Matt Sam a bunch of money.
So he takes him to a restaurant down to the baseball.
of a restaurant and keeps him there
for a few days and tortures them and
you know whatever and then
he invites like a bunch of
crime associates but also
the guy's family members
invites them all into the banquet
room for a big dinner and then
at the end of the meal
like
it's like oh you remember that guy who went missing
who owed me a bunch of money well here
he is and like lit him on fire
and he told everyone to piss on him
to extinguish the flames
but the guy lived
I gotta look at this guy
it's insane
I gotta put a face to this
this is insane
but he lived to like
I think he was like
in his 60s
when they finally killed him
but he had
how the fuck
he had
check this out
he had two brothers
who were like
gangsters as well
so mad Sam
and his brother Mario
were ordered to kill
the third brother Michael
and they did it
with no hesitation
they're like yeah
fuck it we'll do that
because apparently
Michael was a junkie
and he was a liability
but the thing about Mad Sam
is because he was so mental
he was never made
the outfit were like
can't have you as a made man
you'll never be a friend of ours
because you're too insane
he's a fucking liability
a much of a liability he's a piss
smelling liability
the only reason they kept them around for as long as
they did is because he made them so much money
because he really was very good
at like
negotiation
yeah
but yeah like I
kind of i just locked them up i you know i don't even know where it's like on reddit yeah under like
uh like the soprano subreddit somebody mentioned i'm still going on there yeah yeah well it's
stuff there i got you get you yeah don't don't hate me but anyway um so yeah but yeah it's
you find a wikipedia there's youtube videos about it stuff and yeah very entertaining he was
highly emotional yeah yeah yeah but like yeah all that saintness shit like he was he was fucking
insane but
God it would be great if they made a movie about him
but he's kind of like just such a repugnant
and horrible character
he's like
some kind of villain in the film and like
that's not real yeah he's like
De Staphano by the way to see he always
said Sam
de Staphano if he had not been
framed for rape at the age of 17
he would have become president
of the United States of America
Yes sir wow
He's got a lovely grave by the way
His grave looks so nice
He's an interesting cat.
I'll just have a fucking can of beans.
Oh, it's a pot noodle there.
I may look up as any books on him around.
I'm sure there is, yeah, but anyway, that's so...
We're over the hour there.
Yeah.
That was some good stuff.
I'm so interesting.
Yeah, it was good.
I was going me up with my girlfriend later
and I'm like, babe, I can't.
Yeah.
What time is it?
Late night booty call, huh?
Well, no, it's just a...
I don't have to explain myself to you
I've got an issue of private eye
and the phoenix
that'll get her wet
nice and moist
she's asleep
and I'm like
throwing private eyes
our window
it doesn't make a sound
because it's wet paper
you're holding a booobbox
and it's just like a
Leo Varadker speech
babe wake up
anyway we're over the hour
you gotta go
and meet your lady
you know what no I don't have to go
actually.
Oh, okay.
No, I won't go.
No, I've got to look up Mad Sam.
What would Mad Sam?
Mad Sam would stay in bed and look at the internet.
Apparently he was, he loved, he was a real Louis C.K.
He loved taking his dick out.
And like, like, when he was a great comedian.
When he was in court, like he'd be in court.
And like he just like whip out a bullhorn and say, I object, your honor.
He was just like this really wacky guy, you know.
like Jerry Lewis, you know.
It's very interesting.
There's a lot of fun stuff there.
But anyway, look, that's the end of this episode.
So Dune and Mad Sam.
Yeah.
A little mix of stuff there.
A little bit of politics in there too.
I tell you, I think it's on Netflix.
Watch a bit of Dune.
Yeah.
See what you think.
I probably...
You might be surprised by how it won't change your life actually.
I was going to say it changed everything.
It won't change nothing.
Anyway, that's the end of you.
Bye.
All right.
Goodbye.