Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 224 : I'm sorry Morgan Freeman

Episode Date: May 28, 2024

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Yeah, I'm not much of a sneaker head I want to know more about sneakers Like I literally walk around people like Man, you got the two 70s I'm like, yo my man name kicks is fire dog Yeah I'm like you guys just aren't humoring me are you Did James tell you to humor me

Because he's worried about me You got a cool hat What is that an NY? What is it? I don't know I don't know these brands Some hobo complimented your hat there A hobo complimented my hat Yeah

What did you say back to him? I was like, thank you, sir. Thank you, kind, sir. May I offer you a whole-cooked meal? I'm going to bring him home. Like Russell Brand, you know. Well, we could have him as a guest on the podcast. I think that would be really cool.

If we bring him home and wank him off. Yeah? I said, what Russell Brand did? Yeah. Anything Russell Brand does, is he okay with me? Fair enough. Because now he's a Christian. I saw that.

He's a Buddhist. I was like, that's rape. But now he's a Christian. He got baptized in the, in the, The Thames? It's so... And then he's like, oh yeah, we get Ross Kemp there as well. Ross Kemp was there.

In the water, baptizing him. Oh, wow. No, Bear Grills, that was it, yeah. Bear Grills. I mean, it's not as, it's like, oh, Bear Grills. That makes so much more sense. Ross Kemp would be ridiculous. It would make more sense of Ross Kemp there

as well, you know? Yeah. But like, getting baptized and making a big scene, people are like, this is definitely for real. Yeah, it's not. He definitely loves the power of Jesus Christ. Well, I'm pretty sure he thinks he is the reincarnation of Jesus Christ. He said that many times, first as a joke, and then after a while, not even as a joke.

He said that while he was washing me in the bat. Yes. When I was 16, he used to bring me around the place, and I felt like a very cool guy. Can I meet Matt Morgan? He's like, yeah. Yeah, but only if you have to spend time with cocky-locky first. I don't see him. I'm like, oh, you'll see him.

You won't see him but you'll feel him Anyway look We got a lot to talk about In this episode First of all We went to the bank there Well you did

I went to the bank I stood outside They don't allow my Kind of the bank Well you were smoking Yes Yeah And you wanted to walk

You're a big cigar Like what the fuck did Yo let me smoke inside Bitch I just went up to Security Guard And ashed in his face It's like

I make more in a day than you do and a day and a half you fucking blame. I did get a little bit emasculated.

Everywhere I go would get masculated. So I went to open the door of the bank and this older fella

security guard dub security guard is like I do you go pal he opens off from me he's like you go over there

go over there I'm like yes yes thank you I know how it works and then I go to the desk there's only one woman at the desk

so there's only one cashier and there's a guy talking to her So she's busy. Yeah, she's busy. So I'm standing about a few feet away. Right.

And the guy against security guards, like, yeah, it's over there. It's over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, go on. As if I'm, like, I'm confused. I'm like, where do I go? Yeah. So then I go, I step, like, a step closer to the guy. And then the guy at the register is, like, looking around to me, like, what the fuck is free?

Oh, like, you're going to bum him. Yeah, yeah. I'm going to brand him. Now, what's interesting there is that you use the word emasculate. I don't see how. gender roles came into this it's more like he's you know he patronised you

it was a condescending you know talking down and an attack of your intelligence as opposed to your masculinity but you chose the words emasculated Brian don't look at your phone when I'm trying to develop your psychological makeup sorry I was looking at things there sorry

that's why you're getting emasculated because you're living in a fantasy world looking at pictures of a Brian de Pama I was going to talk about Brian the Pama camera next. So you probably made a good point there, wasn't this? Well, I don't even remember now, so. I, uh, my friend

Matthew Tallinn. I call him a friend. Matthew doesn't talk to me anymore. Yeah. But, uh, my friend Matthew Tallinn, he was listening to a podcast about bonfire vanities. How do you know this? He, he mentioned it, uh, on letterbox. Oh, and then I read his letterbox. I liked all his post, so he knows, uh, yeah. So he knows, I know, I know, I'm serious.

serious. But anyway, so we talked about a man in full last week. Yeah, the Jeff Daniels Netflix show. That's a Tom Wolfe show.

And I thought we talk about bonfire the vanities. Okay. I didn't get a chance to watch the movie, but I did listen to the podcast

about the movie, and it was very interesting now. The most interesting part is about Brian the Palm himself. The director. Yes.

An interesting little insight in his life now. So he was a part of the new Hollywood movement in the 70s. Him and Spielberg is to get so much

Pussy, you know what they do actually. This is a classic tip, all right? If you want to get Puss, it's the me, all right? Yeah. And the Palmer. So him and Spielberg.

Oh, he had them in the De Palma of his hand. They drive outside women's houses, all right? Oh, yes. And they call them up, be like, hey, you want to go out tonight? Yeah. And it said yes, but guess what? We're already outside.

Hong Kong. Have they said no? All right, Steve, get the ball of clavas, pal. We're doing it brand style. Well, da-da-da-da-da-da. Not time for love, Dr. Johns. Yeah. I don't know, Matt Spielberg.

He's a bit of a wrong-un if you ask me. I don't think he is, actually. You say he is now. I wouldn't have any opinion on that. Of course you wouldn't. Because I'm still holding out hope. When you do E.T.2, I could be Elliot. I'll be Drew Barrymore.

She's all old and useless now, don't someone? young and sexy like me. Do you ever watch any of her talk show? She is like mental. She's mentally unhinged. Very white woman on coke kind of energy. Everyone was making fun of her for the Kamala Harris interview.

Did you see that? Yes. Even Kamala was like this bitch is crazy. She looks terrified. Kamala wanted to call security. Yeah. You know what's funny? It's the first time that Kamala Harris has ever seemed like humanized and

empathetic. You know, I was actually feeling for her. That's how deranged fucking Drew Barrymore is. We've all been there. We've all been around the deranged woman like that and you gotta get out of there

and they have like a real like she likes like she's one step away from like humping your leg or something just like a nervous energy surging throughout her like an abused dog you know like just like

like that you scratch your head and she flinches you know she'll piss herself you like how it feels so Brian De Palma Bonfire of the Vanities. Brian the Pam.

I'll listen to a podcast. I forget the name of the podcast. Good. Look up bonfire. It's called something like... Podfire of the vanities? No, no. It's called like screen talk.

Ah. Pretty generic name. Yeah, okay. The point is they go into Brian the Pam originally, like his origin. And the interesting part is, I'm like, that's a very good origin story, is he was a little kid and he all suspected his dad was having an affair. Right. So one night he follows his dad around when he's like a little, like he's a teenager.

Oh. He followed his dad with a camera and like snuck in and caught, filmed his dad's mistress. Are you serious? Yeah, yeah. That's awesome. He's like, yeah, I got your dad. With like a fucking super eight camera. Yeah.

Lights! Why are not set? Yeah. And he caught his dad having an affair. That's awesome. And he was like, that's how,

like, uh, that's how he's, his love of cinema started there. He was like, if my dad didn't get pussy, I can make movies. I mean,

interesting enough, that's kind of, a currency in and of itself in Hollywood is the, you know, sexual blackmail tapes. Yeah. And they be filling each other,

fucking each other in ass, man. Yeah, that's like, like, Jaden, he caught Jaden Smith as well. Yeah.

Well, Smith, bang and Jaden, fucking Justin B, Suckin off Odell Beckham. Nicky Minaj and Rihanna are bumping tacos and it's all on film. James, do you want to give a bit of context

for what you just said there? I don't think any context is needed, Brian. To be honest, I think my words speak for themselves and I will stand behind them. I, you know, hey, if I'm lying, sue me. My name is Brian

O'Too. And I'm wearing 270 sneakers and a hat that hobos like so I'm very easy to find that's how they get me like nice shoes 270s yeah also you've been sued

I'm like you know you like my shoes no there's well to give context of things I just said there's a woman so ever you remember the cat Williams interview Shannon Sharp you know club shish so there's a woman called Jaguar White she is a backup

singer and like an R&B musician from the 90s, she worked with Jay Z, Diddy, Bad Boy. She has been doing these Cat Williams type interviews for a couple of years now. James, just see your stuff. You got to remember just how white I am. Okay.

Who's Bad Boy? Bad Boy Records. Diddy's record label. Oh, okay, I was like, is that a band? Who is that? Bad Boy Records. That's Diddy's company. I forget. I'm sorry. I talk bad boy. Are you familiar with P. Diddy? I am indeed.

I've seen the videos. Yes. So, yeah. And so she basically, what's interesting about her is she certainly is not a fully credible person because she seems properly, like picture Alex Jones,

but if it was like a fat, black, sassy woman. I love that. That's exactly what it is. I love that. Her personality is just so, like, intense and performatives. Like, she goes real big.

And then she'd be like, but I know what you did, daddy. I got to. tapes. You think I don't know, but I got the tips. I talk to the finger. You motherfucker! And she'll just go crazy. But she'll, she literally said... Who's interviewing her? It's just this like kind of generic, kind of like, you know, DJ Vlad type thing, but way less successful. When you have, you don't have enough credibility for Vlad.

Like, all the comments are saying, you guys should just rename this, the Jaguar Wright Show, because those are the only episodes anybody watches. Yeah. And like, they interview like, you know, X. Diddy Bodyguards or like people that claim to know who shot Tupac, you know, so it's they're trying to go for that DJ Vlad thing, right? It's a real little cottage industry that Vlad's died. Yeah, yeah. So

but no, Jaguar White she had a career, a legitimate career in the 90s and then it kind of fell apart. She's had her own legal issues. She definitely comes off as very intense and a bit insane, but it's very fun. She'll just full-blown say, and these are her words, not

mine, but she has said like there are loads of tapes on the dark web of like Nikki Minaj and Rihanna and Justin Bieber all fucking I would have found those tapes If they're real

On the dark dark No but they go They go for millions of dollars Apparently Well that's why I'm saving off The Patreon money for it And it's a good investment Here you won't hear any complaints for me

But she said Then you go off buying subways And we need that money It was delicious though I'm just getting I want to be a third throat goat like Justin Bieber so that's why I'm

get a foot log or just in one go didn't his face fall off his face melt he is Bell's palsy that's it yeah I'm not a doctor

no no his fricking face though yeah but he's got belts palsy that's like partial facial

paralysis but this woman she said Justin Bieber was sucking off Odell Beckham in a nightclub while Trey Sogs kept guard

so nobody walked in in a nightclub Yeah, obviously in a nightclub bathroom. She said Will Smith has been raping Jaden Smith. Like just the most insane shit is the fact that she says the names. It's just

so refreshing. It's so refreshing. It is though, you know? That's what I need right now. I'm sick of all these innuendos. Let's just get down to it. It's 2024, Brian. The truth will come out. Ain't no lies no more. You've got to come out of the shadows, ma.

What James does is, James researches the Illuminati and he comes back with the truth and that's why you're gonna end up shot someday I hope so

you are the bravest man I know all those soldiers and firemen cowards no fireman's going to talk about Will Smith

he's probably all of saving lives yeah yeah resuscating children like a buffdy I'll probably get I'll get killed

in a subway sandwich they'll beat me to death with a fuck long meatball maranara they'll make it looks like a suicides I was like, it looked like he choked on a subway, but I know that I couldn't have.

But it's just very fun. Now, like, I don't obviously it started blowing up on TikTok, so all these say, Hey, guys, I got another video for you guys. Have you heard what this girl's saying? Are you on? Are you on TikTok, by the way? Yeah, I've kind of started getting on TikTok a lot more, and it's not been good for me. I'm not doing well at all.

I can sense a pep in your step. But it's just like the, the one. wild also like like she says like so the movie hostel is real and like there's all these like snuff porn things doing the rounds in Hollywood and she's saying wild shit and it's like

yeah I go to Epstein Island to rescue bitches they need me I go to the ditty parties to walk motherfuckers out like she is when I say Alex Jones and Cat Williams merge together and made this woman that's an

exact representation it's very funny it's darn entertaining and I love every second of it I love it I hope they never try and change the internet and they're like oh misinformation's bad misinformation is so good it's great man it's so funny especially when they're the more insane the better yeah like when stuff like you know um you know like such and such like they like you know the election with like Trump and Joe Biden was like someone got more votes to the other person yeah that's boring that's numbers I don't like that stuff yeah I want snuff films and fat people

that's why I want That's the energy I need around here I'm glad you're you're brave You're going in there You're rod-dog in this information I'm just going in with my mouth open My asshole open Give it to me straight

Shimmie shimmy yaw Shimmie ya shimmy yeah Give me the mic And I'll be gay for pay I don't know But anyway it's very fun But definitely Melting my brain

and turning me into more of a schizophrenic than I already am I'll just come up again What was the talk? Oh, Brian DePama. Sorry, yes. I don't think I can top that. That's actually way more entertaining

than this fucking dumb podcast, listen to it. The only kind of interesting thing about it is is by this woman who's a reporter. And all the, not footage, but all the recording she has is from the time. So she recorded a load of footage in the 80s. Right, okay.

And so now, so in the first episode, you can literally hear Brian the Pama ordering soup. Oh. Yeah. I could see why that would be appealing.

I know. The behind the scenes insight is incredible. It's like, that's too hot. What kind of soup? That's too,

it's like, that's too cold. It's meant to be cold, Mr. The Palmer. It's dispatchio. Yeah. Gaspacho.

Yeah. It's petio. Yeah. And he's like, oh, okay, I'll have the soup then. Next episode. Like,

it's pretty, actually, honestly, the podcast is kind of shy. It's this woman, though. Oh, wow, you're really. It's crumbling, though. You were like, it's actually great, and I love it.

Oh, no, they're Nikes, man. I see the tick on your shoes. They're Nike's. Oh, another fun thing about the Palma is they just casually mentioned, so he caught his dad having an affair. That was it. That's how we got on to. He caught his dad having an affair,

and then his brother claims I invented a form of perpetual motion. Huh? A perpetual motion device. Like test-less stuff? No, like stuff that, like, it's energy never stops. Yeah, I think that's what Tesla was working towards, so perpetual motion and... It's apparently goes against the laws of physics. Yeah, it's kind of, well, like, when they talk about those UAPs and, like, UFOs...

It's not real. It's not real. Just give me a second. Okay. No, but that's what they say, that the way they maneuver is like, it's not combustion engines, it's some kind of energy, perpetual motion. It's, they're not outer planetary, they're interdimensional, Brian. I keep telling you this. You say I'm a free.

I'll be proved, right. It's going to be me, Tom Long and Jaguar White, having the best party ever, and you won't be invited. I'll go to save some kids. But what did he do with the... Did he blackmail his dad, or... No, he's like, hey dad,

and he's like, oh, you got me. Please don't show your mother this. But you know what's funny? Back then, he just beat the son, beat the wife, beat the mistress, because why not? And nobody told him... No, it seems like everyone was just like,

you got me, ha, ha, ha. And it's like the end of a sitcom, like, that's Brian. It's like Dennis the Menace. Yeah, he's a little prankster. Him and Nashor ran away to you.

But, anyway, the thing is like, so this book comes out, bonfire of the vanities. And it's a huge success. And almost instantly they want to turn into a movie.

And it wants to be a big, big movie because like, literally it was like the highest selling book. Back then books sold. Yes. Yeah. And if a book sold well, like the author would be invited

on like fucking cars. yeah yeah like it was a big big thing right yeah uh that bit back people were literate back then you know you you do well back then in the literary world you get on carson nowadays you can't even afford a car son br-br-br-br-br-up blood yes very good yeah thank you thank you very much yeah um you're really holding this episode together here but um point is so they want to make it to fast track it Brian the Palm has picked. He's a bit like,

really, you want me to do it? Because it's like, you know the plot of this, by the way? No. The plot is, essentially,

it's a lot of different stories in New York, but the main plot is a guy who's like a major yuppie kind of a bad guy, Gordon Gecko type. Right. He cheats and his wife.

Right. He runs over a black kid. Uh-huh. It's a hit and run case. Hits a black kid and drives away. Right. And it's about how that affects the community and like how he kind of,

his life trumbles and all that. Oh, okay. The, you know, the police are, closing in and all that. Right, right, right. So he's worried about his mistress and the police and all that.

Who's in it? Is it Bruce Willis? So Tom Hanks is who the cast. Tom Hanks. Well, we'll get to Bruce Willis a second. Okay. So Tom Hanks, who the cast, have played the lead kind of guy, just kind of scumbag,

yuppie kind of guy. Yeah. And Tom Hanks, everyone says he's not right. He's too friendly. He's too goofy. He's from Splash and the Burbs. Yeah, he's a comedy actor. He can't do it.

Yeah. And then the other major character in it is a guy, who's a British He's a British journalist who's writing about this yuppie guy and then kind of learns more and more about the secrets.

Right. And that character is based on Christopher Hitchens. Really? Yes. Oh, okay. And they said, you know who could play

Christopher Hitchens? Bruce Willis. What? So they cast Bruce Willis. Bruce Willis is a huge star. That's Christopher Hitchens. Well, obviously, they change it. They make him American in the movie.

Yeah, that's just the basis. He's a kind of gregarious, hard drinking, smoking kind of white er, you know. Telling women they're not funny. Exactly, yeah, yeah. And he tells people God is not great.

You probably thought he was great. Mother Teresa's a slag. Oh man, she spreads her gash around Africa like it's a trooper box. Everybody's slipping a few cents in the fucking dirt merchant. She's a bleeding

dort board, what? Is that what he said? You know, Sal, I actually have a lot of his books back home, Hitchens. Really? Yeah, back when I was a kid, I was like, oh, he's hitch-slapping everyone. Oh, yeah. Oh. I mean, he is entertaining.

You know, I can see the appeal. He is, he's better than Peter. Yeah. Did you, like, walk around school with copies of Hitchens? It's like, hey, babe, yeah, want to get Hitch slapped? Yeah, with my dick. Yeah, the book's called Hitch 22. Get it?

But the point is to cast him. then they cast some other woman I forget her name now forgive me I look her up while I'm talking now she's a big deal

at the time anyway it's that Madam Webb's even figure us out it's Madam Webb's mother no Madam Webb

Dakota Johnson's mother oh in real life yeah yeah oh so Melanie Griffith that's it man you don't let me down yeah you talk about

mother trees are getting bang you know Melanie Griffith you are the star of the show don't anyone tell you otherwise I don't do people somebody say you're the third worst

on the podcast That's the last time I let Gary have an opinion He really screwed me there Hank Kingsley of the show I was like, don't you dare Don't you dare say that Yeah, Melody Griffith Because Dakota Johnson, it's her

And Don Johnson had a kid Yeah, yeah And Kim Cottrell is the other one as well Okay, yeah And again, all the casting's so weird in this So in the book, Kim Cottrell It plays the actual wife Who's getting cheated on

Like Tom Hanks Okay And she is meant to be Like anorexic in it Oh So they basically tell Kim Gattrell You gotta be anorexic Yeah

And then But that's not Apparently You're not in porkies Any more love Drop the LBs You gotta stop being porky God I hope she was in porkies

If I got that wrong I'm so fucked My reputation Will be done in this town You rose so high The Melanie Griffith It's pull She is in Porkies

I believe Oh yes Yes oh man it's a fine line I'm like walking a tightrobed you know point is they make her lose an incredible amount of weight

and it's not a part of the plot or anything really in the book she's anorexic and this but they don't make her anorexic in the movie the 80s were great just made her lose a little weight

for no reason I imagine the producers like she's a bit chubby for me oh let her tell her she has to be anorexic well that is a part of this podcast they have all this footage

audio recordings and producers being like yeah Melanie Griffith, big fat hog. Really? Yeah, basically. Melanie Griffith, the fattest bitch you ever seen.

She's got to lose weight. If people in the cinema see a woman like Melanie Griffith would be puking all over. You think Don Johnson would give her a few lines of coke? He's so gacked up. His dick doesn't work.

He blames the coke. We all know it's because she's a pig, mate. Miami Vice. Not so nice. There's a lot of sexism in Hollywood. in the 80s. I'll have to take your word

for that, Brian. I only found out about this today. Don't burst my bubble. Harvey Weinstein wouldn't allow this. And the most interesting part of all this, the bit I thought is really cool, is so they cast one guy. So the whole thing is

a judge in this as well. And the judge has this big speech where eventually Tom Hanks' character gets arrested. And the judge has to do this big monologue about the law. Yeah. No, I don't care how rich you are, you know. Law is the law.

Even if you are the whitest man who ever lived. So I... It's very funny that, like, he has a movie where he runs over a black child and then his son turns into a wigger, you know? Oh my God. Some, uh, waguan, hear me now? Actually, you see a screenshot? Which one?

Tom Hanks was like texting chat. It's like, hey, buddy, could you explain the Kendrick and Drake? to me and like so Chet Hanks explains it all and then Tom Hanks goes, gee, those are fighting words, huh? I'd knock his block off if he said that about me

it's very, very funny you know what? It made me forgive Tom Hanks. All is forgiven. It's just so funny to get him like a family reunion where like he's talking to Chet about like Chet's overpowering the whole conversation and what's the other son? Colin. Colin, yeah.

Collins likes. Well, I'm doing very, I'm being, I was on ER recently. I was at a convention there for the Fargo season one. Some of my best work. I say, I mean, now, wogwan, with the,

I like, oh, when you're in the Orange County with the Jack Black blaze in the ting blood, Wogwood. Yes, well, Jack, it was a wonderful, wonderful energy and performance, and just a kind of soul. It's sound like a batsey,

Boy, Bloodman the Butsy, boy. Rosklaude bumbleclots, I get me? Colin's like, can we, after dinner, can watch those two episodes of Mad Men I was in? No, Colin, we're gonna watch Chetty's music video. He brought his baby mama, so I think it's only fair we accommodate him.

So, the point is, they need someone to play the judge, all right? It's a big important role. and they look for a few people like maybe John Cleese or someone they went through a lot of names well Alan Arkin is who they picked eventually

Okay Yeah So Alan Arkin, okay Now yeah They paid him like You know like 1,000 I don't know numbers

They paid him a lot of money The number popped up I can't read Yeah I'm like I'm gonna assume It was more than 1,000 whatever 1,000 euro He was set for life

A cool Graham I'll be living off this for decades You can buy two mansions in New York for that money I still have money for chips afterwards Yeah

But anyway So they cast Alan Arkin It's all good But then They got a problem Because they have to change The script To make Tom Hanks more likable

The studio's like You gotta make it more likable Yeah This is Tom Hanks here Yeah Buzz and Buddies Yeah you can't play an asshole So eventually they're looking at the script

It's like, this is a weird script where it's like This really likable guy Runs over, kills a black child Yeah, tries to get away with it And we're rooting for him Yeah Yeah, and it's like, it's an all white cast as well Right

And they're all rooting for him And the only black people in it Are portrayed as monsters Like literally like There's a bit where they get lost in Harlem or something like that And all the black people are like, Blah! You know like that

Give me crap cocaine on your shoes. Oh, my word. Oh, no. No, it is literally Melanie Griffiths like, these guys are animals. Yes, they are. They are animals.

There's not a car big enough to run over these beasts and mongrels. I got to vote for the crime bill. This is scary. Joe Biden is correct. So, they're like, oh, this looks pretty bad now.

We've made them too likable. What are we going to do? And then the idea of like, let's make the judge black. That solves all our problems. Again, it's the black character. Yeah. It's kind of like the hero in a way. He gets to do the big speech about the law.

Okay. Yeah. Now, originally this character is a Jewish. And it was based on a real Jewish lawyer. Right, right. A real Jewish judge. He was like, well known. But they made him black.

And just that week, the Oscars were on. And Morgan Freeman won. for driving Miss Daisy. Oh, okay. So they're like, we need to get this guy. He's hot right now, Morgan Freeman. Yeah. He's going to be the judge.

The only problem is they've already paid Alan Arkin. Yeah. And Alan Arkin doesn't want to give back his 1,000 euro. Yeah, I mean, he's already bought his island in the Galapagos, so, you know. And also, Morgan Freeman doesn't want to do it and can't do it. He's signed up to do a production of Othello or something, all right? So he's got Shakespeare. Yeah.

All right. So we've got to learn how to read. See, it's things like that, isn't it? That's where I falter. Well, I'm glad we have to, by the way, with the camera, I'm going to set up the camera next week. I'm going to buy a memory card there tomorrow. Yeah.

Now, on the camera now, keep that up. Well, of course, I'm being ironic, Brian. I have nothing but respect for Morgan Freeman. He's a great man. His weird little hands. Yeah, and his interesting relationship with his granddaughter.

I think it's all good. What? Oh, what did I say? Never mind. Is that true? There's some... I don't know the specifics of. There's definitely something.

I'm not going to look it up now. There's definitely something. You'll just have to trust me, Brian. Take me at my word. Look, if he has a granddaughter, I don't know if he does. If he does, I'm saying watch out. He wears that little glove.

Why? Why was he in prison? Look, I vaguely remember reading an article in the Irish mirror one time, you know? I found it on the street outside of a Buckees, so it seemed legit to me. But anyway, look, I'll tell you what, I'll investigate and I'll come back next week with the gossip on that. But no shade to Morgan Freeman, respect. Oh, by the way. It's, um, it's called the devil's candy is what the podcast is called.

Oh, pretty good name. Yeah, by Julie Salomon is that, she's the woman who, like, she was on set. She filmed all this, okay? So, uh, she's a journalist who was, yes, yes, saw all this up close. Okay, so basically he's got, um, Shakespeare coming up. So the studio, like, we're so desperate for you Morgan Freeman, we're going to shoot around you. So we'll just film all the scenes very early in the morning with you. Yeah.

And then you can go off. do rehearsals, learn how to read, I assume. What a low brow and humorless, tasteless, crass joke, Brian. And then do a fucking full on Shakespeare production and everything like that, right? So that has a lot of pressure

one onto the production schedule. But then onto him and... Yeah, yeah. And then also, like, they had to pay him five times to pay to Alan Arkin. Because he kept saying no, and they're like, five, geez. Yeah, five. Oh, man. Look, they pay him five, so that's like four grand. probably bankrupted the studios

I think actually you'd be honest with yeah I think it was 5 mil okay that makes 5 mil for what's basically like a pretty minor role in the grand scheme of things it sounds like and Alan Arkin got to keep a million he got to keep his money

he got a nice millie literally doing nothing yeah he's like this is that's Holly weird for you yeah yeah but to have that in place we have to cast here

but another big problem it has is the book and the novel are very satirical and they all involve well-known new york locations the met the naturalist museum like uh central park yeah they all involve very real place to film in and they also have very very very obvious uh parodies or kind of caricatures of real people right okay so it's not just christopher hitchins like like like for example like the people who run the met parrided in it as like losers and dorks okay so then when they try and film in the Met

they're like no you know the book that accuses you of being a nunts that's basically if like you and me went to Morgan Freeman's house like hey you know the podcast you said you bag your granddaughter you can't read

they want to film a movie I have you know I can read I can read that's standard I read Good Night Moon to my granddaughter afterwards, you know. Yeah. So, and another

big thing is they pissed this book was very controversial at the time, pissed off a lot of people. Right. So, for example, they wanted to film in like a Jewish neighborhood and the Jewish people involved like, you can't film here because the book has very Jewish character stereotypes. Antisemitic stuff. Yeah, anti-Semitic stereotypes. And same like in Harlem, by the way. They tried to film in Harlem.

Oh. And they were saying it's funny because all the black people have them dressed, like basically, give all the black people fake knives and, like, crack pipes and shit, you know. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. To like, like, leh, like that. And it's like a bunch of actual, real black people, you know, are, like, just throwing eggs at Tom Hanks, because it's racist.

Oh, wow. And a few people, like, crossed the kind of, like, the line for filming. Yeah. And he's got up in the Brian DePama's face, like, you're racist, you piece of shit. Jesus. There's not a single black person filming, like, it's an entire, it's an entirely white crew. Wow. Yeah, yeah.

So, this is, like, did Farrakon get involved? Not Farrakhan, but a mayor, one of the local mayors, not of New York. Like, some kind of very high up guy in, like, Harlem, used it a lot for, like, political point scoring. Right. And he basically said that, like, they should be a disclaimer in the film that says, basically, people from Harlem are not bloodthirsty animals. Yeah.

Sorry. I just, uh. Yeah, go on, right. You're stepping out of a little minefield here, man. Yeah, wow. Not stepping, you're jumping around the minefield. Yeah. Doing belly flops.

in a minefield yeah but the point is okay I keep saying that and then like what is my point it's a very bad

habit I was like what I was going to say is and I'm like before you ruined it but so yeah everyone's like

it's a very controversial production trouble production yeah yeah very difficult it's going oh way over budget people

a lot of people are already kind of like in the trades and even like late night comedians already mocking it

it's like it's kind of got like when Waterworld was being made yeah people knew it was like a really bad production like it's going over budget and they're filming on water and it's all going to shit so it became like a joke to be like oh water world you know kind of like fucking what's it called right now? Megalopolis

everyone's like this is a dumpster fire yeah but like it's an interesting dumpster fire became a kind of fun joke people like oh I can't wait to see how bad this shitty film is of course the book so it's kind of like a lose loser people who love the book are like this sounds shit

and the people hate the book are like I hate this as well no one's like happy about it like everyone who loved the book they were like it should have been like a Jack Nicholson not Tom they want someone like

more prestige than Tom Hanks yeah yeah Tom Hanks was a bit too again too goofy and his real baby face as well he's got to be like I care only about money and nothing else it's before Philadelphia right Philadelphia was the one that's the one that's the one that actually worked out for him.

It's like, oh, Tom Hanks is a legitimate actor. He's not just, you know, the burbs and Joe versus the volcano. Yeah, he can play someone with AIDS. Yeah, it's good. But, yeah, it's going to shit. I'm trying to go what else happens in it then. And then also, like, obviously, like, this is Todd, Brad, not Brad Pitt, Bruce Willis. She's, I feel like Bruce Willis.

I can't think of anything. Bruce Willis, like, he is, as big as he's ever going to be. He's massive, right? Yeah. And he's being a bit of a dick on set as well. And some great audio, him being like, yeah, people tell me what to do here. Like, I'm like, you know, I should be a part of, like, yeah, you belong on Cock Sucker Magazine. Oh.

He says that. Right. Pretty good, isn't it? I guess. Yeah. I was like, I'm going to write that down. I can't but you use that next time I'm roasting someone. Yeah.

Yeah. But. You should be on the cover of Cocksucker magazine or just featured in an article? Did he specify? No. Oh, okay. um but uh yeah so it finally got released and apparently like Brad i keep saying Brad Pitt Bruce Willis was real like we should film it like this

I was on moonlight and I know what to do here yeah this and this also this is probably after diehard so he's just like an all time high yeah yeah yeah it's very trouble production they eventually released the film and it's it's really bad okay and it hasn't like grown it's not like years so now people like there's something to this film yeah yeah no it's always known as being like a really troubled production is really shit. Bad film. Another thing that was like, what the fuck is this? So

his second unit director was this guy who's never redone anything since but he was like Brian, we need have a shot of the Concord. We need have a shot of the Concord. He's like, all right. Why? Because you know, Concord, you know, like... Opulence. Yeah, it's like money,

New York, don't get more New York than the Concord. Yeah. So he spent like a few days trying to get the perfect shot of the sun lowering and then the concord's flying and he's like I got to get the perfect shot and I say it's like dog shit

so maybe I'm a bit critical but like there's a lot of people um in the on the YouTube comments and on redder like bad movie but that Concord shot one of the most beautiful shots I've ever seen it's all I'll show with you afterwards

like it's real what was the thing with the Concord so it was like a fast it was just a very fast uh like airplane. But it was also very not cost effective. It did a lot fuel just to get people to fucking London 30 minutes earlier. Yes, and it was literally

just for like billionaires. Yeah. You know, yeah. It failed. It's annoying now. I don't know when it stopped. I remember like my parents. I think it was like 90s, wasn't it? That it stopped. I think of a vague memory of my parents telling me, it's weird. I remember of my parents being like, I don't remember my grandmother dying.

But I remember like when like they said, oh, the Concord stopped. I was like, not the Concord. You'll be staying home from school today, Brian. The Concord stopped.

We're all going to go out into the garden and dig a big hole the memory of the Concord. I remember when Princess Diana died. I was like seven years old and I went down to my mother who was sleeping. I was like, Mom, wake up. Princess Diana's dead.

She said, James. Don't say things like that. I was like, no. The bitch is dead, Joe. My fucking brown bread and shit. Yeah. Like, James, please don't do your patois. You're only seven.

I mean, oh, mama. The Princess Diana is a dead blood. Che, she can't. Yeah. But, uh, my mother didn't believe me. She thought I was lying. She still doesn't believe you. I must have been a very creepy kid.

He's like, Mother wake up, Princess Diana's dead. I like, did he keep showing themselves, like, you fake this. It's Photoshop. It's not real. Oh, sure, James. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Two planes went into two buildings in New York. Oh, yeah, sure, James.

Six million die. Right. In the camps. Okay, right. Yeah. I'm sure Diana was one of them. Sure, James. Diana crashed the Concord into the Twinkhowers.

And six million died. But, Could you change subject there? I want to talk about Ashley Madison. Oh. Yeah, it's the new Netflix thing. You've actually watched more this than me. Yes.

I vaguely knew about Ashley Madison. Yeah, I remember hearing about it. You used to advertise on Stern. Yeah. It was pretty, it was a, here's the funny thing. Like, I remember Early Internet. Like, Ashley Madison was a thing, and no one really, like, it was just very accepted. Like, oh, it's a date insightful for affairs.

Yeah. I think now a lot of people are watching being like, oh my god can you believe this like they're just so sleazy so bad and it was but people really didn't seem to like maybe it was a different time or something but you know it's the time of entourage

you know people really yeah hedonistic you know stuff like again interviewed on Stern like in the documentary it shows a lot of their ads it's like hey fellas do you like big titties but not on your fat saggy titty wife

come to Ashley Madison I'm paraphrasing now That's the gist They won't even like you know It's for all people It's for guys you want to bang chicks Yeah Don't tell your wife

Fellas you know how you wake up Every morning with the impulse To strangle your wife and children And burn down the house Welcome to Ashley Madison Bonny Chris Benoit had Ashley Madison By the way Just I mentioned entourage there

I couldn't believe this You know in 2007 when they asked Obama what his favorite show is you know what he said? Entourage. Yeah, that was his favorite show.

He said, Entourage, then the wire. Oh. Yeah, Entourage was his favorite show and they had to work around Entourage for the campaign schedule. Are you serious? Yeah, so he'd be like,

you gotta do this big speech, you're like, make him way. I gotta look. Turtle wants to get sneakers and buy weed. Will Johnny Drama get the part come on

Johnny please this production is much beneath you for God's sake you were the Viking victory victory come on now

oh that Ari-gold I tell you they are a very argumentative people aren't they my word it'd be funny

like Obama is such a non-ary gold type but funny and watch you be like yeah it's like me it's like oh choose in your eyes

you big gay Asian Hey Michelle Do I tell you It looked like an Asian twink Yeah, motherfucker He told me this shit Stop playing now

Come on Help me get into my panties now I gotta get my girl alone Now I'm going on the Ellen show No one my dick flopping everywhere Ah ha These one go to tang

You go on the Ellen show You got the dick flopping You know the bitch ain't gonna be grabbing me now Ah ha wagg-ass bitch little pussy I was actually Sorry

Wait Who's voice He was doing I don't know I like how Michelle's Red Fox I was kind of doing like

Chef's dad and South Park Come on now Here's coming Ah ha ha Fucking stamper's son There It's so funny

You need to wash your ass You know when you put the thong on But your bottle's sack I got Sorry

I should listen to a while ago talking about is a trans you ever heard of transvestigators that's like pedo hunters that's what they call themselves now and the whole subsection of people who that's all they do is look at

like Michelle Obama's crotch or like look at that look at that like that's all the but now it's like all women like everyone is trans to them now they've gone completely overboard or like Billy Eilish trans

I've heard that Sydney Sweeney trans like everyone is trans to them everyone's a different everyone's sneaking around around, change their genders. And you know, it's funny as well. There's pedophile hunters out there, and they're like, yeah, you guys waste your time

hunting paedophiles. I got a real shit to do here. We're making the world a better place. I got to look at like Ellen's camel toad. Yeah. You actually call themselves transvestigators. I've never heard of this now, but it's, uh... That's you that is, yeah.

Is it? Okay. I think, to the honestly, yeah, the Michelle Obama, Big Mike thing, I think, like, um, it will never be topped the moment when Rabbi Shmishman. Moly had the debate with Alex Jones about if she was a man or not. Yeah. And they both kind of agreed she was, but was she pre-op or post-off?

Oh my God. That's the only common ground. I bet you that could end the Israel-Palestine conflict tonight. If they all just sat down and said fly in. It's like, you know the movie Armageddon? Yeah. Where they had to fly in oil rig dudes to get on the asteroid.

That's what they need to do with the Pentagon. is like, we need the top trans investigators to fly to the Middle East tonight. Anyway, no, I don't think that makes much sense, doesn't it? I actually have been listening to a very good podcast recently. I kind of went away from podcasts for a bit.

You say that, but then, any time I meet you, like, yeah, sorry, I'm listening to a podcast, and I have a podcast I need to listen to because I was reminded by a podcast that I was listening to. So, like, you showed up at the house. I was in my car listening to a podcast. It's full of small.

I can't look to open the doors to finish this in the Celtic Ligers Which is very funny actually Celtic Ligers really enjoy it They had a Roger Sullivan on a while ago He's good And they keep saying they're going to get Mark Maloney on They don't cowards

Cowards They couldn't handle the Maloney man The Maloney Meister It's a podcast, you actually listen to it Remember Shuffle Oh yeah It's the one I've sent you the episode about John Stewart Yes

I'm going through their episodes now It's pretty interesting What else have they got? So I'll actually, I'll whip it out now. And I'll show you. So I listen to the two parter about the Obama presidency. Okay. Did one about entourage.

It's pretty good. Oh. Yeah, the entourage round pretty cool. They got like an entourage fan. One about a family guy. Wow. Yeah. Like all this stuff.

So it's not just TV shows, though. There's like other stuff as well. I mean, here's the thing about entourage. It wasn't good. Can we say that? I mean, it was pretty stupid and bad, right? Well, I tell you, the entourage subreddit is thriving right now. Really?

Yeah. And maybe if you work hard enough, James, you can go on it. But you got a grovel. Now, here, Jeremy Piven is incredible in it. He's the own, like, and Kevin Dillon actually is very funny in it. But the rest of them are like, they have no personality. And it's just like cameo after cameo. The lack of plot is actually incredible.

Yeah. be like, Vince wants to He wants to buy his speedboat Yeah, and then he does And then they all smoke weed The end, like there's no Oh, hang on, you forgot the part Where he gets pussy

Oh yes, you're right, yes, sorry, yeah Hey Vince, will you bang me? Yes, I will. Dude, you've done it again. And then E watches. Yeah. By the way, you know, so I'm trying to get the guys now.

So obviously, the main character is based on Vincent Chase is based on Mark Wahlberg But that's the tone him down a lot Which is funny as well Because they were making the point on the podcast That the real entourage They were all felons and scumbags

They're all like Much like Mark Wahlberg Genuinely interesting All right yeah Yeah okay They're all wheeler dealers They're all scumbags That would be a way better show

Yes Of them genuinely like doing like bad things Like being pieces of shit In Hollywood Yeah, yeah. A piece of shit in a place that you can thrive doing that. Yeah, that's kind of, I mean, but that's the thing. Hollywood has been infiltrated by like organized crime and drug dealing and like there's a very seedy underworld to it, a lot of criminality. Just for money laundering is like the best thing ever. Exactly.

A film can go over budget by a crazy amount. I learned it all from a film called Get Shorty, which is like the secret text of Hollywood. I didn't care for that film Why is Tony Soprano being a gay man He's played a gay guy a few times He played a gay guy in the Mexican I'd never seen there Oh, okay I'm not saying you're lying

I'm not saying, he's like, no, no, yeah Rob, that's Julia Roberts, you idiot But I know, yeah, you're right actually He played a prostitute and pretty women Yeah, pretty women The real characters would have been much more interesting the show itself like there is no plot

it's like I want this part in the movie I didn't get it but I got a better part in a better movie is like oh okay like they mentioned

that like by season two or three he's been in the biggest movie of all time Aquaman so it's kind of hard to go like it's not like a slow rise up he's like

he's already a huge star when he starts he gets bigger and bigger and more and more literally yeah every now again they give him like a drug problem

just to try and make it yeah there's that only he was banging a porn star and like ah but i'm just saying so i think if you actually trace them so vincent chase is mark walberg yeah obviously way more of an interesting character vincent chase is like a complete blank slate just nothing i think the guy who he is based on no turtle was actually donkey donkey yeah in real life oh hey she's donkey yeah he's got donkey i think he died of asthma like 33 years old awesome which when you say died of asthma i presume

that's coke and juice heart attack yeah yeah my inhaler I need my inhaler because I did nine grams of coke tear yeah it was the inhaler's fault and then I think the guy who either E is based on or the other one

well no drama is Donnie Walberg yeah drama is Donnie Wahlberg yeah but I think the guy who E is based on then he eventually moved into doing those remember before we found out about Bruce Willis he was in like all those weird movies like he'd be in like five movies every year

where he seemed to not know what was going on and he'd be like it always be a thing where like it's a group of soldiers and Bruce Willis is like you guys got to do this and then he sends him like he's like a very minor

or he's a cop his partner does all the action he's like in the office being like maybe you should go over there yeah and we found out that it was clear like he had basically a form of elder abuse yeah

a lot of those were produced by the guy who he is based Yeah, yeah. And, you know, back to your point about money laundering. I imagine that's the only reason for those movies to exist. Is this like Saudi dark money gets funneled and laundered through some dog shit, B-rate action movies starring Frank Grillo, Bruce Willis and... Luke Wilson?

Huh? No, not Luke Owen. No, Luke, yeah, it's weird. A lot of the ones that have sort of gotten fallen into this... Yeah. I imagine... John Cusack, weirdly, is really... A Travolta as well.

Yeah. Even like every time again, they'll get like a De Niro or someone to be in some shitty like, yeah. But for those guys, because in a lot of the markets, they're still like, it's Pacino.

It's Scarface himself. Oh, he's, me's a Pacino. Yeah, yeah. What do you got? So then. I'm here in Japan. My God. It's bright.

Yeah. They can hire them. Look at light. Sorry. They can hire them like for like Bruce Willis, those films. He's there for literally like two days. and he is no and then most of the scenes by the way are like a bald guy facing other way

yeah it's not even his body yeah yeah yeah and that's all e there it's pretty cool so point is that would be a way better show but it's just so like ja it's very little like rape or anything in the show there's none of that like the dark side like it's never Hollywood is like basically a non-stop party yeah with your friends it's but it's all about friendship and being loyal and hanging with your bros the worst thing can happen is Seth Green ruins your birthday party. Like that's like the worst thing. Seth Green comes up and does a funny voice.

It's like, hello, Eric Murphy. Is your pussy wet? Oh, I don't like this guy. He makes me feel bad. Don't worry, man. You'll always be cool in our eyes. The end. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. I'm a superhero. Oh, and also, I actually have been watching a lot of the Larry Sanders show at the moment. That's good. That's what I like to hear. Because a lot of it, not a lot of it, but some of it's on YouTube. Yeah. So on my, on my breaks and work, I go in the staff room and I watch Larry Sanders very loud. Good.

You know what? I actually play real loud because I'm hoping someone be like, hey, what are you watching? I'm like, yeah, that's right. You know, the way that does guys who, like, they sit at a cafe reading a book, you know? Yes. Like third way feminism. Like, yeah, that's right. I just read distant times to kind of get my head in the area. And they'll have like, you know, on their ring finger,

they'll have just like that white band, you know, the ring is gone as if to say, oh, there was a ring there now it's gone. It's a nice, it's a good wee hustle. Yeah. Do you start your tours with, now everybody, that sign says apple sauce. Brian, stop doing your hiking sleep. No, it says whiskey. it's such a good show

it's fucking great man Larry Sanders show is fantastic it's so good and it's like there's a real tinge of sadness to do because no one no one got out there

okay no like even Piven was in it he got rape charges you know that's right and then like Gary Shanting and real is like his life is actually pretty sad

and it's a real hustle by the way of like oh you're so zen and he was so into meditation yeah we're all just energy It's like, yeah, it's easy to say that when you're hooked on pills. Yeah, he's like doing percocets and trying to bang 22-year-olds, like,

now listen to me, Stacey, it's all about mindfulness and being present. Ew, why does your skin look like that? Because you're a dumb bitch. He was 66 when he died. Yeah. He looked terrible. Awful. For decades before he died.

And it's actually weird. Watching some Gary Shandling stuff. Yeah. So, like, his face is all right. during the production, like, when Larry Sanders is on. Yes. It's almost like as soon as that ends, his face, like two years after, his face is already incredibly puffy.

He looks like he's constantly just, he's allergic to bee stings, and he just got stung. Like he's got a peanut allergy and somebody keeps throwing a Snickers bar at him, you know? Literally, yeah, it looks like he swallowed peanuts and bees. He looks so puffy. No, I think he was actually, like, they found out that he had like a thyroid condition. but he used there's a lot of stuff going on with him so like you say as well

I was talking about him a while ago with you like he had a I never watched I didn't really watch that um Judapitao documentary about him but yeah he said he had like a motorbike accident or something car crash

he was in a car crash and he said like that's when like he was also always kind of into like you know meditation because you know Hollywood they're kind of they fuck with all that shit but he said like he had like an outer body experience

like post surgery or mid-surgery and he said like it was a very tangible like he went to the other side like everything we see and here on this existence this plane of his distance it's not all there is Brian there's something else out there

don't freak me out right now yeah dude come on we're going to take you take you there take you at a pound time he was taking an incredible amount of drugs yes he would like apparently he was popping a lot of like oxy and you know smoked a lot of weed as well that's thing his

persona was mindfulness, meditation, be present but then he's just doing like typical scummy Hollywood things popping pills. Like he was dating the girl paid Beverly and fired her when they broke up. That caused a lawsuit and all that. Does she return for the final episode?

Now they interview her in the documentary don't you? Yeah, they do. How does she like... She looks pretty good man, I gotta say she kept it tight boy. That's not why I'm asking. What? It's not. I'm asking how is she emotionally? I don't know I was too busy

jerk it off to rip towards I know she's like yeah you know it got very ugly towards the end but I you know

they never I don't think they ever actually reconciled properly but she's learned to forgive him yeah but yeah he did

they were like banging and it's funny because they had that storyline in the show yes but then he's banging

her in real life and then when they broke up but they were very serious they were living together and shit yeah

but they he didn't want to get married or have kids and she did. Yeah, never married. Yeah, yeah. And so then

they broke up and he fired her from the show and then a lawsuit. He also fired, he, he sued his own manager for embezzling money.

Really? Brad Gray, yeah. I've heard of Brad Gray. Yeah, his name pops up before the Sopranos. Yeah, Brad Gray. Yeah, Brad Gray productions. And Stone Castle,

so I think he was like, yeah, high up and up. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, his career is so interesting. So he has like two successful big shows. It's Gary Chandling's shown in Larry Sanders And he does so little

So after the show ended He was in a movie with Warren Beatty Called I think town and country Which is a big big flop Big failure I think it was like one of those things That like they tried doing reshoots To make it better

It's like a three year production kind of thing Yeah And then he was in that film Earth Girls Are Easy Yeah Which I've never seen But I saw the trader And Trader actually looks kind of funny

I'll be honest Who is the director Or some kind of big Was it Mike Lee? Mike Nichols, I think. Mike Nichols, sorry. Well, you know what's funny? In the documentary they go into,

so like he was very particular about his projects and because of the failure of the movie, he felt scorned. But when... Did he go into town and country? Vaguely, I think. Because I forget what was wrong with that. But they...

So I'm just double-checked. I think that it was wrong about the movie's title. It was something else. Earth Girls are easy. That's one with Jim Carrey. Yeah, I, my, oh my God. My favorite Martian or something, was it? I think we're both embarrassed ourselves

to agree that we can't come back from this Well Say that Well Over the hedge No It's like a Pixar movie Iron Man

What planet are you from That's the one Yeah Yeah Which looks pretty funny He's got John Goodman It's a funny cast Yeah but it got slated

Yeah And apparently him and the director Didn't get along very well I'm not surprised But yeah In the documentary it's funny So like when DVDs started coming around and the whole thing of

DVD commentary became a thing. There was like a reissue of the Larry Sanders show. So he actually got very like hyper focused on like doing all these DVD commentaries with the guest stars of like

the show. Of the show. But then he also would make mini documentaries where he'd sit down and have like really like meaningful conversations. Are these available? Yeah, they're available. Yeah. Like there's one where he's talking to Sharon Stowe. and she like basically confronts him with why did you never get married and have kids?

What are you so afraid of? And it gets very real. Because they mentioned that in the show was interesting because in the show he's got a pill addiction and they mentioned that he's like afraid of intimacy and stuff. And Roseanne puts him to rehab. Yeah.

Like you know how he got into boxing in later life? Yeah. So there's a bit where him and Alec Baldwin are in the ring boxing while doing their interview. Oh. And then they, the conversation gets very heated and then Alec Baldwin starts

like proper like wailing on him. Shoot him. Yeah. No. Come on now Brian. For goodness. There's a low hanging fruit. Has that man not been true enough? True to ringer. Yeah. But then afterwards you know Gary goes, yeah, just you really kind of

were wailing on me there. It's like yeah, well now you know how I felt when we were like in the scene together and you were like really condescending and being a piece of shit to me. So it would get. very real at times. It was an interesting dynamic, you know, to take this kind of stupid, shitty, like

just cash grab of a DVD commentary thing, but actually do something worthwhile with it. And you could argue it's a sort of early incarnation of podcasting where you sit down and have a real conversation. See, I'm not just racist jokes, Brian. I can have thoughts. I might actually

watch this Zen Diaries thing. Just real quick, though, I looked up this, I keep hearing about this town and country thing, I looked up. Yeah. This is insane. So the budget was $105 million. It made $10 million. It's one of the biggest box office flops in American film history.

And afterwards, Warren Beatty just stopped acting for years afterwards. Yeah, until Bullworth came along. It sounds like it just ruined everyone, everyone's life. Yeah. It's all for film. And then, like, it's weird.

And so after that, Gary Shanling's in, like, you know, a cameo in Zoolander. And then, like, he's an Iron Man, too. Yes. Just a weird little cameo in that as well. well, basically. It's just like, uh, and then dead. Yeah. Well, another thing why he was still so beloved, even though, like, he had been out of the line might for so long, he had his very famous basketball games, you know that? I didn't know that, no. So his whole thing was he'd invite,

like, comedians and actors around that he admired or respected or whatever. Yeah. And he'd have these basketball games. And like, so he had a lot of really good friendships with, like, Sarah Silverman and, you know, people like that. Yeah, because seems like when he died, there's a lot of Yeah, apparently he was like a mentor to a lot of like the newer breed of comedian, you know. And probably got mad snazed dude. I hope so. Yeah. I'll have to hear that I assume he's a sad life in a little Florida one bedroom apartment.

Just like waiting from a phone call from his grandkids, even though he never had kids himself. That's the way they don't call. Why aren't they calling? What did I do? I like that clip of him, the, the, the one. You know that the episode Rick Jervais did of his thing? Yeah, yeah.

That's very funny, yeah. They go into that in the documentary and then they also, they use that as the jumping off point to say, well, that's a gear Gary could go into. He could get very cruel. He could really, like,

if he decided that you had wronged him in any way, like he could really fuck your shit off. Kind of like me in a way. Yes, yes, exactly. I have to keep the beast inside me chained up. Yeah. Oh, God. Oh, if it ever gets unleashed, the streets will run red with blood.

Oh, my vengeance will be echoed throughout the ages. Yeah? What would you do, Brian? I make a comment. Oh, a snide comment. That would. A well-crafted witticism that would cut through them, like hot knife through butter. We're out of an hour.

We're at a hour, yeah. There's other stuff I was going to talk about. We didn't even go into Ashley Madison. No, he didn't actually. That's great, yeah. Because I haven't watched, I actually haven't watched it. Ah, there's not really, you know. Ah, just let him have a fairs, is what I say, yeah.

I also want to talk about Doctor Who. Oh, but we're out of time. Oh, no.