Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 233 : Am I a Zodiac?
Episode Date: November 10, 2024Zodiac is back and he brought Matt Walsh along as well....
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All right.
We're back, guys, for a free one.
We're watching some cool stuff downstairs,
and we've got some cool stuff to talk about.
I'm feeling good.
I'm feeling clear.
I'm drinking Red Bull Blue Edition.
No, Juneberry edition.
Juneberry.
What's the Juneberry?
It's like a black thing or something.
Yeah, like Juneteenth.
Yeah.
But in a berry flavor.
Ooh.
It's, yeah.
It's racial harmony in a can.
How does it taste?
It tastes lovely now.
Yeah, this is great.
actually it tastes a bit shy
actually I don't like it
not to be racist or anything but
it just
it's like
it's like it's like
mixing those two flavors together
it never works
does it
well actually I did watch
Am I a Racist
the new Matt Walsh documentary
which was like one of the biggest
things of the last year
it was a huge success
financially
yeah yeah exactly
critically people are like
ooh it's bad
yeah but hey the numbers don't lie baby
it made a lot of money
a lot of money I think it made more money
than like some of the Marvel movies
yeah like beat
like Miss Marvel yeah
obviously Choker 2 blew it out of the water
what are some other big movies that it did better than
like it really it performed
it was I think the highest grossing documentary
of the box office since
like a Michael Moore documentary
there's a while there
where documentaries are something that you commonly see
the cinema.
Yes.
And it was like Michael Moore,
Morgan Spurlock,
and,
Errol Morris to a degree
in the more artsy cinemas.
Yeah,
that was for like,
the guys were like,
I don't want some guy
eat a little chicken.
Yeah.
I want to watch something cool,
you know?
Yeah,
but that,
he was like a raging alcoholics,
like,
oh, no,
Big Macs gave me
fatty liver disease.
The Big Mac made me touch
that woman.
Yeah, it was a thing.
He got me to,
yeah.
By himself.
What?
No, he didn't.
No, he did.
Well, that was preemptive.
That was like, I'm me doing myself because I'm so noble.
Those of women were like, we were just, they were just about to publish something.
I don't think they were.
I think the woman was like, oh, wait, yeah, forgot about that.
I got finger banged by the supersized me guy.
I totally spaced on that.
Anyway.
Finger bang me.
Look, I don't know.
I need to go into, I don't want to libel the dead, okay?
I don't know what Morgan Spurlock was up to.
Point is, I watch Am I Racist by Matt Walsh.
And the whole thing is, it's all making fun of, is it DEI, is that what's called?
Yes.
What's that again?
Diversity.
Diversity, equality and inclusion.
That's it.
Yeah.
Equity and inclusion.
So Matt Walsh, she's a conservative kind of like commentator, a bit of a grifter, you know.
Daily wire.
Yeah, has a beard.
Kind of an unlikable.
Very unlikable.
Very unpleasant.
Very annoying.
He's very kind of like atheist in church.
Kind of like actually, you know, like kind of like if Ben,
all that massive charisma he's
guy. Ben Shapiro
out of all the sex appeal. Yeah.
I'm a picture Ben Shapiro, but his sister
doesn't have gigantic
tits. Oh my God.
Heyo. A couple
of his bollas. Hey, oh,
array. Oh. I double
D.F.
What's funny is this
film starts, it's, um, Am I racist?
You know, like, you probably don't, but
the Marvel movies start off in a montage
of all the other previous Marvel movies. And it's like,
oh wow it's like um yeah it's my favorite studio marvel yay this has a montage of all the
what are they called again rebel media what are they called again daily wire daily wire i'd say
sorry it's like a montage of all the daily wire movies so it's just like lady ballers and like
am i a woman and that's all they have is it just reminds you of all the shit they've done yeah
which are both and i haven't watched am i a woman fully i've watched bits and pieces okay and seems
very like
you know
same with this film all right
you know what's
Jordan Klepper
and Jordan Klepper
interviews some
mad guy in the woods
who like supports
Trump
and it's very easy
laughs to get
something out of that
yes
it's very similar to this
we just talk like
the craziest people
the most extreme
left wing people
the most extreme
people who by the way
which I don't go into
in the film much
have already been
discredited for the most part
by the left wing as well
you know
and it's kind of go up
and get them
some stupid shit and that's really it
and the kind of premise of the film
is Matt Walsh
has this, he's in
a, to do a recreation of him
in a, in a cafe
all right, in a diner, I should say a diner
and he's watching the view and on the
view it's a real clip that me like, and white people
need to check their privilege, white people are racist
you know? Right. He's like, is there
true? Is there true? Oh, white
people are racist? I don't feel racist
but it can be quite awkward
being a white guy and this is a
Very Michael Moorish.
This is the comedy, all right?
And a black woman comes up, it's like,
how do you want your coffee?
Uh, black?
Mm-hmm.
And that's how it starts off, man.
We're already laughing.
Okay.
So, and then he decides to investigate racism, all right?
Does it exist?
Or is it just all made up?
Well, I think, to be honest at you,
there's a much better film hidden in this.
Okay.
Like if a Sasha Barra Cohen or someone did this, you could get something really funny that appeals to all ends of the spectrum.
Yeah.
All right.
Like a lot of these...
Like, which is what kind of bore at and Bruno did, you know.
So a lot of these, like, diversity people, they're first of all white people, okay?
Yeah.
Who, they go around to offices and they go around the companies at Coca-Cola and they're like, I'm going to teach all the staff here, especially like the Mexicans and the how to not be racist, okay?
And they get paid like 300 grand.
Nice.
And it's all very, very basic stuff.
It's all just a H.O. or a box-taking exercise, whatever, okay?
Is that woman, Robin DiAngelo, for example.
Yeah.
Yeah, she's like the most famous example of that.
White fragility, yeah.
Which, it turns out, I think she just stole all that from some black people.
She has plagiarized it.
Classic.
That's what I mean.
Like, this is like, a tale's all the time itself, right?
Yes.
The point is, um...
She Elvis Presleyed on racism.
Nice.
So she
She didn't date a young child
But like she
She is pretty silly
Okay
So he can easy to make fun of that
Yeah
But Matt Walsh
Doesn't really have the comedic chops
To do much with this
And the bits aren't that funny
Okay
So for example
Like he goes to
This thing that is a real thing
That a lot of white people
Will pay for
To feel bad
Because he's got like a Puerto Rican maid
Or something you know
So, like, I'm going to go to a racism course
to talk by this black woman
where we do meditations on whiteness and all that.
You know, yeah, okay?
And it's like 30 grand to do this.
Meditations on whiteness, eh?
Yeah, yeah.
It's all very silly kind of like, you know, rich people stuff, all right?
Okay.
But so the thing is, then he shows up.
He's like, oh, is this meditating?
Uh, should I stop talking or meditating?
Uh, okay.
And then, like, he just kind of, like, is a bit annoying.
Yeah.
So, and that's,
he thinks he's very funny
but he's not he's not no
again like atheists in the church in the way
it's like they say
they'll say something kind of stupid
actually uh that's not true
and that's it that's like
the joke it was like religious with
Bill Maher
he goes to a truck stop
is saying
you actually believe
that your dead child is in heaven
you idiot
he goes to a hospice
see someone's got like a cross
like look at
look at a
new rule if you're a leukemia retard you're gonna burn in hell not heaven still feel comforted by the
afterlife i didn't think so so i'm trying to think how it goes and then he just stops and stares at the
nurses until they start laughing and applauding yeah that's right um so like it starts off with that
and the old thing is like he goes there and they're very hostile to him because he's matt walsh
okay yeah and uh you know they're like please remove you know please leave and he's like oh i didn't
give you consent to to remove me they're like okay we'll just leave you know it's like that and like
they're stupid he's stupid as well you know they're all annoying all right he's like well aren't you
morally superior riser i'm the smartest coolest guy there is yeah with a big old penis
yeah both sides of dial are pretty stupid if you ask me you know it's all about the benjamins
I'm like a taxi driver
I'm all folk of rats
You know
You got the puppet on the right
The puppet on the left
But you're not noticed
That the same guy's controlling both
Puppets, man
Are you awake?
Yeah
So he then goes like
To understand these people
I must become one of these people
And from in I was like
Is he going to do blackface?
Oh my God
Hello!
Welcome to Amarlesa with Matt Walsh.
It is my documentary.
I'm so happy to be here to find out the white fragility.
Let's go.
So all he does, he takes his glasses off, all right?
The old Clark Kent to Superman, huh?
Yeah, reverse with that yet.
This glass stuff, and he puts on a slightly bigger beard,
like, puts his hair down, okay?
And he was like, howlal,
and he puts on a fucking, like,
a fucking, like, translates matter badge on or whatever like that, right?
Right, right.
Hey, I'm a liberal.
Whoa.
Then he goes to places.
Hey, where is the nearest abortion clinic?
I've got the monchies.
I smoked a dupe.
And now I want to go eat a fetus.
That's what they do, right?
Yeah.
Like, he just goes, again, he just goes to other places, different courses and all that.
And he's like, asked, like, pretty stupid, but kind of, like, basic questions, you know, like, you know, kind of like, you know, white people are bad.
actually what about Abraham Lincoln though
and that's that's it all right
closet homosexual and a depression case
there don't
solve it
what get out next
any white person I'll get him
but like and then he does
little kind of like
he'll even call him skits but you're like bits
you know like Michael Moore
might try and get like
politicians assigned their kids
up to Iraq War
Or like when he bought
He opened a bank account
And they gave him a gun
Even though it turns out like
Like he edited it
Yeah
Well that was a long pause between it
But he made it look like it was like it was like it was there
On the day
Is that stupid? Because even getting a gun after a week
If you join the bank is still pretty bad
Yeah they didn't give him ammo though
Or yeah
I don't think
Well ammo is pretty easy to get I believe
Look I don't know what that
But the point is
Look at you, you communist fuck.
Or they do like,
they do a little bit of like how this DEI stuff is pretty,
it's like a grift, all right?
Yeah.
Okay.
And then they go into like Jussie Smollett.
Oh.
They try to link those two.
Speaking the grifters.
And then they have Matt Walsh reenact the Jussie Millett story.
Whoa.
So he's walk around a town with like a noose around his neck.
Yeah.
Being like, oh, I'm Jossie Smollett.
And a subway sandwich up his ass.
He's the same.
taking some liberties with the story.
That's it, all right?
I was like, all right.
And then he's a bit where he gets all these people,
he teaches him to get a white guilt class or something,
something stupid, right?
And the kind of joke is he brings out this old fella in a wheelchair.
He was like clearly kind of like out of it.
He's like, ugh.
And he's like, this is a white guy.
He's got all the power.
I want you guys to all yell at him.
Oh, right.
And then he goes like, I don't care how powerful you are, okay?
and that's it
you know
which is
that's the only bit
all right
but the point is
he rolls on
some old demented
gooburn
you horrible
fuck
that's pretty funny
I'm getting
a chuckle out of that
in the 90 minutes
but that's it
and I wanted to go further
I want to kick him out
the wheelchair
and be like you know
like I don't care
you yeah
that you deserve that
like really go for it
yeah
and it needed more
kind of stunts like
I was thinking like
maybe a stunt you could do
is like you get all these people at some like college somewhere like we're going to have a statue of a powerful like a of a great black man and you pull down the curtain it's like Bill Cosby or something like that like something like that yeah like a big elaborate stunt like that yeah or just go further with the stunts but it's pretty kind of like that the only bit that maybe like he's just because he is a proper it's like Tim and Eric almost he's a proper like old guy yeah and they're all yelling at him but what are they all yelling like what type of no he's only he yells oh it's only him he he's only him he he's he's only him he's he
He doesn't get, because he doesn't have the charisma to get all the other people to yell.
Oh, that's, yeah.
That's what I mean, like, you should have gone further with it.
Yeah, yeah.
And being like a Nate and Field, like, if Nathan Fielder did this, you could do something really funny and really clever.
The plan, finding out this racism exists.
Turns out it does, and boy, they did not like me.
Oh, geez.
And I think what would have really helped as well if you wanted to get, like, mainstream appeal,
because, like, this was popular amongst his crowd, all right?
Yeah.
But it's kind of like, it could.
it would have been 20% more shit
and it still would be popular. True.
It's the same, like, if you release a Taylor Swift
concert film, the quality
isn't really matter. Yes. Yeah.
Taylor Swift fans will see it.
True. But if you want something like, everyone will see,
you have to have something extra. So I think you
should have tried to like really
go for it, you know, maybe get like a few black
comedians, something like that to write some bits as well.
And maybe have them as like kind of like, almost like
props in a way, like have them as a plant
to have some black comedian as a plant
so you can play off them and really go
like over top you know yeah yeah uh it was thinking it's kind of like if you got like me to play
bruno in a movie and i was like oh i'm gay and they're like oh really it's like yes i am
um i am a homosexual yes that's correct and then they send me to like uh like a military base
like oh i might touch one the guys and i don't do that i'm like okay sorry sorry i respect thank
you for your service thank you for your service i respect you so much it's a little
comedy left on the table i felt it oh and at the end
to go back to that diner, right?
And it's like, the, the most,
the stuff where he's trying to be funny
is like the worst part of it.
He goes back to the diner and he's like, stands up.
He's like, I don't care what the view says, all right?
I think that, you know, we aren't racist.
In America's country of yada, yada, yada, yeah.
People coming together and follow your dream.
Doesn't matter what race you are and all that.
And everyone starts clapping and cheering for him.
This is all like, very clearly like, stay,
like just filmed, you know?
the lighting and all that. It's a slow montage.
And it cuts back to
her, be like, and what type of coffee do you want?
You're like, ugh.
It was all a dream.
Yeah. And then the old goober in the wheelchair.
Yeah. He's just there and he smiles.
Ah.
That's it.
Oh.
Yeah. So I was not too impressed with this Matt Waltz production.
But I won't, he's like Woody Allen, you know.
I'll always see his new film.
I don't care what they say. You know, I'll always support him.
Now, did you, uh, subscribe?
to The Daily Wire and give him your hard-earned money.
I did not know.
I'm sorry, man.
I stole it like a fucking common criminal
off online.
Actually, I'll be interesting what you think of it.
I'll make you watch it at gunpoint.
Yeah, I don't really, you know.
It's pretty tedious now.
I don't fight, like, I fight him very, like,
I mean, it's not like I like Ben Shapiro at all, but like...
Ben Shapiro, at least, is actually kind of funnier in a way,
because he's more annoying, but in a kind of like,
cartoon Artie Ziff kind of way
Whereas Matt, well also
I don't know what, and I know I've said this
many times, I am convinced
his beard is not real. I think he had like
a beard transplant or something. Transplant
and dying it. It looks, maybe
dying as well actually, but it just looks
so fake. I think I know a lot
of lads that get grey in their beard sooner
you think, you know, and he what are you to see now?
He's got to be near 40
at least. I would
say he's over 40. I'll find out. This is
like a fun game we can play with
the whole family
how old is Matt Walsh
because there's the actor
Matt Walsh as well
yeah
from Veeb
oh man he's 308
yeah
yeah man
the beard looks so fake
it really does
and his like
whole demeanors like
well
okay
but oh
you know he's just like
just an
unlikable
condescending
douche
I just
I get there is
I know
I did kind of
find interesting
watching
the
seminars and stuff and they did
like land acknowledgements and all that
obviously you know with that type of stuff
it's easy to ridicule because it is
pretty ridiculous even a few days ago
they had like I think Kamala
did like a land acknowledgement
at some event while they're like
chanting about Palestinians just like be quiet
you know like
you're ruining it
yeah like it's very easy to
burst that bubble you know yes
the hypocrisy is on display
and yeah but again this is like
most people would agree with that thing
like when you go after like am I a woman
that's like trans stuff and that's like kind of like
very
you know it's
I don't know what I'm saying really
I'm just saying like it's
it's not that funny you know
when you get to the trans stuff it's all very like
you know people dying
like transphobic and all that
but with this it's just like oh
we're just making fun of like some rich white woman
that's making money off racism
like it's easier to kind of like
get away with it come together with that
Yeah, yeah, true
That's all I have to say
really about it
I will watch it nine more times
Two thumbs up from Briahood O'Toole
changed my mind and changed my life
Next time on the bus
I'll have, oh
So I watch that
We want to talk about Zodiac as well
Yeah
I really just want to talk with Zodiac
Let's do it man, let's get into Zodiac
It's our Halloween episode
It's spooky season
I was going to watch a bit of rivals
Everyone's talking about rivals
That's the new hit show
With David Tennant and some really hot guy
Where they play like
It's in the 80s
And they play guys who like
Like business guys
Who like the fuck
Each other
No no no
Don't be crazy James
Sorry I mean I didn't know
It's like
I think it's like
Disney Plus are trying to do their version of Dallas
In the way
Okay
But it's set in England
And
Right
In the 80s
In the 80s
you saw excess.
That's what white gold was about.
This is like white gold
about those fucking,
one of them a rapist?
Yeah, the best-looking ones.
But fucking,
but Jaf and in between hers is grand.
Man, he's milky, like,
he's killing it on cameo.
He just, like,
he sits in his bed calling people
boss wankers and he's a millionaire.
It's going to be so funny,
like, he'll literally be in the,
like, on his deathbed,
you know, like he's like 90 years old.
like,
and I say it
bus wanker.
Like he's getting
beaten by the nurses
because he won't say
bus wanker.
And they're like
you don't do in between his reunion.
What's Simon Bird
like in real life?
Is that his real nose?
I can't believe
I haven't done
in betweeners three.
That's like money on the table.
I've heard that's common.
I haven't heard.
I have my finger to the ground
and my ear to my nose,
all right?
I haven't heard anything about it.
There's always rumours about it, but that's money on the table, dude.
What would they do then?
Them is like, young dads.
Just do the hangover.
Yeah.
I'm not saying this is going to be good, but if you want to make money, okay.
Yeah.
Jay is getting married.
Yeah.
It's one last night and they go to Benadourn.
Okay.
And Johnny Vegas is there.
Johnny Vegas, he's perfect, okay?
Hannah Waddingham's got her baps out.
No, no.
No, no.
You couldn't have that now.
She was in Benadorm with her baps out.
Yes, yes.
This is a movie now.
It's a classy James, all right?
You want to make some money off this, right?
Yeah, nobody wants to see her.
No cheap in the in-betweeners.
You're right, you're right.
So Johnny Vegas is in a Borat mankini.
Munkie.
Oh, we shredding up me bummole.
A funny scene where, like, let's say Simon Burr, okay?
Yeah.
He finds some gummies, but it turns out they're weed gummies.
That could be very funny, you know.
And then, so he, uh, he wakes up, a hog tied in a cheap motel with three Brazilians gang raping him after Kim Sex gone wrong.
Hi, I'm Will and how did I end up here getting banned by Brazilians?
They're watching the in-betweeners downstairs a while ago.
some bits are pretty funny. It's a funny show. I liked it a lot.
Just like, Jay is like so like, I'm finger fucking her and I'm just tow fucking the one
on the floor. That's a very funny. There's a lot of funny stuff in it. Yeah, it's pretty
consistently funny. I remember like my house, just a little snob as a kid. I was watching me like,
it's just repetitive. You're such a little fucking dwee, weren't you? What were you into?
What were you saying about? Go on. I was watching stalker.
something, Solaris or something.
You're watching Barry Lyndon
while, you know, all your
schoolmates are going out drinking
and fingering each other. It's like,
no, actually, I'm one...
There's a Ken Loach
revival happening in the local
cinema, yes, so if you'll excuse me.
Yeah, and you just get on your penny farthing and ride
into town. I remember actually saying someone
like, I thought season tree disappointing, because it didn't
spend much time within school.
they're always going on trips and stuff
and this is very cheap I taught
you know
would have been cheaper to be in the school
I didn't deal
at real social issues you know
they didn't tackle broken
Britain you know
yeah
I haven't actually you know what I'll be honest
I never finished the second movie
I mean it's definitely the worst
of the whole lot
the first movie I very much enjoyed
I remember I actually went to the cinema to watch it
with my friend and we had a good time
and all that and then the
second one I watch with some lads
when we were smoking weed
and then whatever happened
I think we all just kind of like
got bored of it
yeah it wasn't very good
it was very much like that
I think we're either too high or not high enough
yeah it was a very obvious
half-hearted cash grab
that nobody really wanted
you know
but now they can cash in
in the whole nostalgia thing
yeah yeah now
she'll they go to call you my
a bender and a puff
so we need to bring it back, let's.
You know, that'll be the whole thing.
Yeah, they'll have to have something to see you more.
It'll be Jay joins the BNP and Neil's like.
I don't know, Jay, it seems like it's a bit horrible.
They're not very nice.
No, it's all right, yeah?
Oh, you know how I love shaved minge.
They shave everything.
Skinheads, skin twats.
Shaved heads, shave twats.
Neil, come on.
Oh, yeah, I'm accent.
you know I could
it's easy man
I could rewrite this at a heartbeat
You're doing great on this
Yeah
Call the boys
I tell you
My only stipulation is I want to be cast
As Jay's dad
No I'll be his uncle
Brother of Jay's dad
And we're a pop
Couple of rough and ready lads
Why yeah let's have me like you
I just want the dad.
That's it.
He's dad.
He's great.
He's so funny.
And Nile's dad as well, yeah.
It's a funny show.
Yeah, yeah.
You know what?
I turn around it now.
In-between her is a good show, right?
Yes, there we go.
I'm going to buy the Blu-Rays.
But anyway, what are we talking about?
Zodiac.
I don't know how we fell into an in-betweener's wormhole there.
What the fuck, do it?
I don't know how we did that.
Let me just check my notes.
I'm taking, oh, yeah, we're talking with rivals, sorry.
Rivals.
Yeah, what was, I had nothing to say about that.
I mentioned white gold.
and then that was it
nobody even knows what white gold is
now that whole
in betweeners riff be honest
were you googled in white gold
I know you were
oh naughty naughty
I'm like Zodiac
so we went off
I gave you homework I said watch a documentary
I said I'll watch it as well
I didn't
You didn't
But I did watch the movie again
Yeah
The movie is excellent
I have never known you
to love something so
much. In all the years I've
known you, you've proved to be
nothing but a very dark, cynical,
twisted, unhappy man.
But your love for the Zodiac film
is... I loved this so much to quit
my job. I was like... He has
quit his job for... He says he's
finally going to solve it after all these
years. He's gone to the local
library. But you know what? You know
the Zodiac Code? You're dyslexic,
so don't all letters just look
like that to you? Like, you know,
Oh, really, like, eat a blighting bucket.
And what do you mean?
I've cracked the code.
I figured out what the dogs called and the damn busters.
That's the only word I knew.
Two letters repeating.
Oh, wow.
That's very deep lore there.
But anyway, so the Zoni Act film.
Okay, the film, first of all, okay.
Yeah.
Now, David Fincher.
is so interesting me, because he's had such a weird
career where they started off doing
a kind of, like, crowd
pleasing kind of trillers, you know, but
also a little sheen of like, you know, like
seven and Fight Club and all that
like stuff that lads
like me would like full testosterone
but also critics to be like, oh well actually
it's a commentary on masculinity. Yeah,
yeah. I actually always, I
never, I hate that about
how Fight Club is misinterpreted.
It's clearly just about
both dudes, kicking this shit out
of each other and how that's awesome.
Yeah. But then a bunch of fucking nerds
come in and like, oh, that's actually
deconstructing masculinity and
a commentary on capitalism.
No, it's not douche.
It's about buff dudes, just beating
up each other, you know, and even
one of your friends is a fat cunt
with titties, and you smack his
titties around, and it's a good laugh.
And then, you know, you go to
some cancer groups to cheer yourself
up, you know?
It seems like American Psychos. It's just about being
cool.
that's it
yes yes but um
but then he went on
I'm gonna look up
about his filmography
because he had like
he was a music video guy
at first
yeah and then
he did alien tree
which he hated
he had no control
so then after that
is seven right
yeah seven
seven really like
that you know
that captures everyone
everyone's like
holy shit who is this guy
and seven's like one
that like it still holds up today
it's very much
it's crazy that
it's like 90 something
95 yeah
it does not feel like that
almost 30 years
it looks so
good.
Even visually and all that, it looks so good, so well made.
It still, and it still retains a kind of freshness and a kind of like, holy, like, you know, it's gripping and there's a darkness and an edginess that's still, you know.
He did the game, which is terrible.
Yeah.
Like, it's genuinely.
The game's bad.
I hate anyone who tries to defend the game.
Yeah.
Well, actually, no.
He did panic room, which I haven't seen in a long, long time.
I think that was pretty standard, like, not terrible, not great.
Yeah, yeah, just pretty like, middle of the road.
No one's like, there's definitely one country.
Yeah, my favorite Fincher film, a panic room.
Dwighty Oakum, a revelation.
Then he took like five years off and did Zodiac.
Yeah.
Now, Zodiac is so good.
But then here's the thing, okay, did Zodiac.
Then he was the curious case of Benjamin Button.
Yeah.
And that was him really going for the Oscar.
Did he get the Oscar?
No, no, no one really liked that film.
I've never seen it.
Well, it's like, the only kind of interesting about his vaccination.
they went to so much trouble with the CGI
to make like a baby
Brad Pitt, you know? Yeah.
And then an old man Brad Pitt, that's it.
Then he did a social network.
Okay, that's great. Which is huge successful.
And you know, it's weird. So he's kind of like
decided I'm just going to do
like books and adaptations
of things that you see in like the airport.
Yeah. So a girl with dragon tattoo. That was great.
I actually never seen it. No.
Never seen it. I should.
I read the book. They did Gone Girl.
which is that's trashy you know
it's well done trash but
yeah it felt yeah but I think that's
kind of he was probably
it was probably coming churry in that
wouldn't it? I mean it's based on a trashy novel
like it's like it's like
that's the point of it he didn't mank
which I
you may be the only person who's ever seen
it in history yeah and I
didn't like it I don't know anyone who's seen
I didn't like Mank and I actually listen to Michael
and me talk about it and when they talk about it was like
oh wow it's it's even
worse than they were just going into it and talking about like the actual historical kind of
like um facts or should i say not facts about the truths and untruths and all that like it's
pretty shit yeah yeah yeah and uh it's it's not very accurate and even like so like uh mank okay
is played by gary oldman yes in real life during his time the mankowitz character was about
28 or something whereas oldman is what in the 60s yeah so like yeah this little things like that
like that really changes the whole vibe
completely yeah yeah
then he did the killer
which I like the killer but again
the killers is based on like kind of a
like a slick kind of graphic novel
which he did his own thing
with it but it's not really like it's not aiming
for much
yeah so he is strictly a director
not a writer at all he doesn't
he does not write he's no
he said before he's no real interest in screenplays
or all that he just likes to get like
you know
he likes to get the script and then take it part
and do his own thing with it, but he's not too interest in, like, the origins.
Yeah, clearly very mechanical, and then that kind of lends itself to why he does so many takes.
He's renowned for how many takes he does.
Yeah.
I think a writer-director, if you write it and then you're directing it, even though they are your words,
I think after having heard it so many times in succession, you would probably, is like, okay, that's enough.
You've either got it or you don't.
Oh, actually, I tell a lie.
He, I think he co-wrote Zodiac.
Oh, well, I'm a fucking retard then.
He had, like, a big part of it, yeah.
Well, again, it's from a book, like,
it's adapted from...
Yeah, so you're right here.
He adapted, well...
I was trying to make a point there, Brian.
Now you... I was trying to be a buffing
now you made me look like a bloody nunch.
Well, the point is, he's going for...
After Mankees, I'm just going to make money now.
Yeah.
You know his next project?
No.
Squid Game.
Really?
He's doing Squid Game USA.
Wow.
Yeah.
That is...
That is just the cash grab, isn't it?
Now, is he doing a TV show or a movie?
A TV show, but he's directing it.
Man, why would he not bring back Mind Hunter?
Everyone wants it.
I don't know.
Let's be honest, okay.
I think more people around the world are into Squid Game than Mind Hunter.
I'm sorry, okay, but I think that's just how it.
I don't know.
I think that's just how it is, all right?
Okay, if you say so.
Look, I don't, I know.
But, like, I'm trying to be like...
Oh, Koreans are cooler than guys.
who have sex with their mother's corpse.
I didn't get that memo.
So they don't like me?
Like, I'm sorry,
what would be the more commercial thing to do
than Squid Game?
Like, he did like a Bridgerton movie or like...
Or like Euphoria, the movie or something like?
Yeah, or Dairy Girls.
David Finch was Dairy Girl.
Man, you know Americans that love dairy girls.
It's so crazy.
I'd be like, just mention stuff like,
is that your dairy, is it?
And like, yeah, oh, we need to go there, Derry Girls.
How do they, I mean, how do they understand what's being said?
I don't think they do.
Oh.
I think it's like, it's like when we watch a Japanese movie, or it's like, yeah.
And we're just kind of like, understand a little bit of it.
Do they do the voices as well?
We watched, I mean, I said that before, haven't I?
What?
Me and two lads watched Train de Bousson and there was no subtitles on it.
You never told me this.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So we were watching it.
And then we got about 20 minutes in.
We're like, oh, there's meant to be subtitles
and there aren't any.
But we just kept watching it.
I just started doing the voice.
It's like, oh, me, a bigger businessman.
Oh, no, he's a zombie, wrong.
And I didn't know the two lads that well.
It was a great bonding experience.
And they're dear friends to this day.
So, you know, racism.
I mean, Matt Walsh is doing it.
He knows that racism brings you together.
You're planning a trip to Japan.
Well, I mean, Train to Busan.
I'm having an old friend for Dina.
Trade the Bustan, I imagine, you only need to, like, follow it too much.
It's not you're watching, like, high and low or something like that.
You're doing the high and low remake?
I don't even know what high and low is.
Oh, high and low is like a well-known kind of Japanese film.
I think it's Currasawa.
Okay.
But Spike Lee's doing it and it's going to be Ice Spice and Denzel.
Wow.
Are you serious?
I'm serious, yeah, yeah.
That's insane.
Which I don't think...
Did you not learn his lesson from old boys?
nobody wants it's like yeah the Japanese
nice spice yeah and Denzel
she's never acted in anything
ever she is yeah she loves Kurosawa
but anyway back to Zodiac
so Zodiac the film okay
is great
I love many parts of it
I like how kind of slow it is
you kind of like I like how it's like real life
you know you fall these this case
sorry over long period time
people kind of drift in and out
you know like Mark
Ruffalo's partner, just leaves, you know, it's very real.
And, like, you know, some people, like...
He eventually leaves as well, kind of, you know.
Yeah, and some people just end up on a boat.
Let's talk about different characters.
To break it down, okay, first of all,
Jillyn Hall, the main star.
Why do you get Jillyn Hall in the film?
Robert Grey Smith.
I think he's great in it.
You know what?
I was just thinking about this earlier.
I've heard people say that they don't rate
Gillen Hall as an actor or they think he's shied.
I don't know where they get that from.
That's crazy.
I agree.
That's ridiculous.
The one scene in particular, like the basement,
scene, which is so fucking good.
He is amazing in that scene.
He's a good fucking actor.
I don't know where these people are getting this from.
And I think the fact that he's been kind of semi-tortured
during the production where he's doing
like every take 40 times.
I think that helps with, I imagine
that it's probably intentional from Fincher.
Like it's about a guy going on a rabbit
hole, he's kind of losing it.
For a year, for decades.
Yeah, yeah. He loses two marriages over it.
Yeah, exactly.
Like Robert Graysmith has credit, he says
both my marriage has failed and
it's because I was so obsessed with the Zodiac case.
Now, apparently some people in the Zodiac community,
which is a community I'd love to be part of someday.
Okay.
They discredit Graysmith.
Really?
They say Gray Smith's a bit of an ambulance chaser.
And you know, this stuff where he's getting calls and stuff from the house?
Yeah.
They're saying that's lies.
Really?
That's hilarious.
They're saying he's kind of like bigs himself up a little bit.
Okay.
And even I think like his relationship with Paul Avery and stuff,
they kind of like, uh...
You know, because I did watch the, see, the reason we're talking about
the Zodiac, because the documentary just,
came out and he is in it
and he does come off
like in the movie Gyllenhaal plays
him very kind of humble
and like you know
oh yes hello
I'm a cartoonist
he seemed to be in real life
and I was just oh maybe he's just a bit older now
and he's got a bit of clout or whatever
he came off as kind of obnoxious
in the documentary
well I imagine it's kind of up his own
head I imagine a little bit like if you're like a big Star Trek
and you think you know everything about Star Trek
yeah it's kind of like that was like
really?
Yeah.
You think Patrick Stewart was the bet?
It's obviously Cisco.
You know, like, all that kind of stuff.
Right.
Like, you can kind of get lost in your own little world.
You're a king of your little world of Zodiac.
Yeah.
And also, you have to be a bit good at the hustle, I suppose, like, no, I wrote to the
Finn of Zodiac book, you know?
Yeah.
You have to go and sell it.
You're selling yourself.
That's like your brand in the way, you know?
And like, but like he did investigate it quite a lot.
You know, he put in the work as well.
You put in the work, you know.
I mean, he knows his fucking shit.
shit you know he literally he was going to the house and walking between the two houses and all
that i imagine you know what it is it's a clashing of generations because the kind of the internet
sleuths who like because they're still and they do talk about this in the documentary there are like
some legit you know people that have done good legwork on the case and have uncovered things
many years after the fact so i imagine robert gracemith is coming in hey i'm the sheriff of
this town i'm the biggest dick in the land i wrote the definitive book and you're all
a bunch of basement dwelling dweaves
who live with your mom
whereas I got pussy at least four times
so suck my beak
please
so Jillyn Hall's great in the film
very believable, very good
doing the whole kind of
boy scout kind of stick
you know slowly kind of like
you go in the rabbit hole
end up in the basement
that's I think the first time
for him to realize like oh this is like serious
this is real you know I'm putting myself in danger
what I think about Robert Down Jr
great yeah uh this is pretty good at playing an addict isn't he yes an alcoholic and a cocaine addict and
i was even watching that or like think of that while i was watching it's like is that triggering for like
like somebody who is so yeah hopelessly addicted to drugs and alcohol to completely
portray that again with such um you know even just like believability obviously you're drinking
probably water it's like colored something when you're drinking like you know movie rum or yes but even
just like the act of doing that and
like you're swaying around
you're in a big
just being
the paraphernalia is all
around you
but I suppose it's the same
as like
filming a sex scene
it's not actually sexy
because there's cast
and crew and likes
but we're like doing it
with a sex addict
that's the different
filming a sex scene
with Jim Norton
I don't want to hear
about your ONA
fan fiction Brian
all right
and then Opie bends over
it
ooh I'm being a bad
little boy
so yeah he kind of
So he's Paul Avery in the film.
Yeah.
And he's like the crime journalist for the newspaper.
It's kind of like the hot shot journalist, the celebrity journalist.
Yeah, yeah.
He holds the gossip, all the tips and all the...
And Robert Bray Smith's a nerd.
Yeah.
He goes to the library.
And then, like, he kind of, um, he gets involved in the case as well.
And then, oh, uh, so then, like, um, what's the name of Mark Russell's character?
He plays basically the inspiration for Dirty Harried.
It's Tashon...
Dave Toski.
Tosky, that's it, yeah, yeah, Toskey.
But then, does he get accused at one stage of faking letters?
Yes, yes, so, they kind of skip over it in the movie.
In the movie, they kind of go, like, ah, we think you did it, and that's it.
You know, it kind of goes pretty fast over that part.
I think he did do something where, like, he wrote a letter for a magazine just, like, as a goof kind of thing.
And then from that, somebody in Eternal Affairs accused him of writing.
the newest zodiac letter
the what they came years later
in the movie I kind of like wanted to rewind
of a second like well what happened there you know because then
his wife is like don't call here again
Robert Grace May yeah even though you are the coolest
sexiest man I've ever met
Rob did she really say that she really did
yeah yeah she really did you want to suck my dick
I couldn't I unbelievable right in front of her husband
couldn't believe it myself didn't put that in dirty Harry did it
yeah and Bullitt he was the inspiration
for bullet.
Yeah, he was a pretty big deal.
It was a little gay bowtie.
Yeah, the boat.
Long before Tucker Colson
were the Muslim Brotherhood,
Dave Toski was rocking the bowtow.
Imagine those three,
the Muslim Brotherhood,
Dave's a dinner party
I'd like to go to.
It's all about them
kind of separately investigating
their investigation
kind of go together a little bit.
In the conventional movie,
it would end up,
let's say if this is an actual fictional movie,
and if they treat those guys
all in the basement,
together firing bullets into
Arthur Lee Allen who
teamed up with the creepy guy
it was all a ruse
he pulls off a mask
and it's Chloe Savanee
Aha! Yes
You like puzzles
do you? Well you couldn't figure
out the most intriguing puzzle of all
the mind of a woman
What a bitch she was
Oh pay attention to me and my children
Could you look after the kids
Fuck off love of going to
down a basement with some freak
that scene by the way
let's just jump to it the basement scene is so
fucking good it's so well done
the kind of sounds
of like the upstairs it's a little
bit like do I hear something is it actually there
and then like um jillen hall's acting
and all that and the guy is so good
Charles Fleischer was that his name yeah the voice
of Roger Rabbit from who framed Roger
Abbott oh it's some good work there
thank you thank you took me years
much like Robert Crespy
he's like who wrote
but yeah he's it's funny
I just thinking of the scene
this is very stupid
it's not going to be funny around you
we're just thinking that
the guy who Zodiac
probably voiced Roger Rabbit as well
I voice Roger Rabbit as well
Mr. Grey Smith
it was me
blah blah blah
yeah
but he's like a
comedian and a voice actor
like he doesn't do dramatic roles
and he's so good in that little scene
I drew it
Robert, Chris.
And what's his name?
Something Oates, Carol.
I think the guy who plays Art Rley Allen.
He's so good in that little scene.
Yeah. John, John Carroll.
Oates.
Something like that.
And he plays Arthur Lee Allen.
He's so good at like, so they go into the, I love this part,
where they go into the factory where Art Rley Allen works, all right?
And he's like a suspect.
They think he might be the Zodiac killer.
Like he's the number one suspect.
And this is a big story everyone knows about.
And they go to the foreman, like, we want to talk to one of your guys.
You know, we think you might be investigating.
might be involved
in the Zodiac killing
and the four man's like
all right
four man's like
yeah he's a Pito
maybe a killer
as well
he shows up on time
it's hard to find
a good man
that isn't a Puerto Rican
you know
yeah
he's convicted
child molester
yeah
he was a former teacher
got convicted
of being a chomo
and they boot you out of school
for that
so now you had to work
in a factory
with Mexico
for just thinking
outside the box
well
getting in the box
he loved
a dangerous game
yes and he had like a watch that was a zodiac and there's so much shit in it where like you kind
go like it's very satisfying a way to be like what's a zodiac calendar was it the alphabet and the watch
and the app the advertisement for the watch has a sign on it and all that like all of this evidence
is circumstantial but when you have so many circumstantial things all lining up spelling christmas
with two essays yes so i'll just jump to the documentary real quick yeah i'd love to hear
The documentary is interviewing
these
guys who were
little kids during the time
of the Zodiac killings
and Arthur Lee Allen
like so their dad
so there's like three or four siblings
on camera I think there was like
seven or eight kids in total
but there's four that appear
on cameras adults in the documentary
and their dad got
sent to jail for
child molestation actually
went to the same jail Arthur Lee Allen went
to. So wait, their dad got
arrest being pedophile. Yeah,
for sexually abused in one of the daughters.
And then Arthur Lee Allen came along, like, don't worry
kids. And started going out
with the mom and started taking the
kids on day trips and then eventually
I think he did sexually assault the daughter.
But there
are different things that the kid
like these guys
tell us about Arthur Lee Allen
that again very much point to him.
being the zodiac so for example him like there was a thing they went in a day trip out in the car
it's a very different time where you could just be a random guy who shows up it's like hey yeah
i know you've only met me for three months but could i take your kids for a trip for a few days
yeah she was just like yeah go for it so you know they go to a place where a murderer would
happen and say yeah mr allen he left for a while and he came back he was out of breath and there was
blood on his arm and we were like what's going on mr ed's like get in the fucking car we gotta go now
and we didn't think nothing of it we were just kids and another thing arthur lee allen he was a big
fat guy right yeah big stocky guy he was a really good uh swimmer and diver he could like do like back
flips off diving boards and shit right because he was in the navy they mentioned that yeah he's in the
navy know that scene at the lake where the zodiac comes up with the big black hood and all arthur lee allen because
he was a heavy set guy like he was a big
fucking dude and back then they didn't
make clothes or
for what you know big size people
and he had to make his own
wetsuits so he always had this
like black fabric
like all was lying around
and the black fabric
is very similar to what's described
as that big black hood
that was worn and like
those are just a couple of the main ones but there's
loads of little things that just line up
it just is so very clear
I think that he was the guy
Did they go into the big kind of
stumbling block for the investigation
was the handwriting. Yeah. That was always
the issue. Did it go into anything out there?
Because they do make a point that you. What was the
named actor who plays the
handwriting expert? Philip Baker Hall. Yeah, yeah. They mentioned that
he's also just a fucking alcohol as well. An alcoholic
and I think he was very kind of like
now, now. This is it. Yeah. I don't know
how, like, because he was ambidextrous. Like he was
noted as ambidextrous.
and again this is back in the 70s
like maybe if you're a handwriting expert
and that's what you've dedicated your life to
and you've been working on all these high profile cases
you've built your whole career out of it
then if somebody comes along goes
yeah isn't this all kind of bullshit pseudoscience
you're going to be like no no it's absolutely fact
it's irrefutable and if you say something
you're a class of homosexual
I can tell me what you spell
I don't make the rules
I look at
He's like, I found this handwriting of yours
says, I love sucking cock
He's like, ah, look
The way he dot the T's
I can't swear, you gotta believe me
I didn't do it
You spells it suck with 2S
I don't think they go into the handwriting
Too much in the
But like
There was a lot of correspondence, letter correspondence
Between Arthur Lee Allen
And the mother
That came out after the mother died
She had this whole, like, storage shed of loads of shit of, like, letters and videotapes from Arthur Lee Allen.
And she was like, she was very adamant to the kids, don't open this until after I die.
Yeah.
And then it just came out.
It was, there was no real, like, gotcha things, but they're, like, pieces of fabric with some blood on it, a knife with some blood on it, but inconclusive DNA.
So again, there's nothing in the documentary that is a stone cold, you know, irrefutable, this.
is the guy, but it's just more
like... And also, this is like the 70s and
whatnot, like, it was way
more easy to bungle shit up.
Or it's like, you know, like, for example,
they found that one fingerprint and they think that was
probably like maybe even a cop did there.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, it's way easier to make a little mistake that
that throws off the whole investigation.
Yes, 100%.
For every, like, there's so many cases
I've read about in the past or like that,
where they're so easy to catch.
Like this catch, the, the guy's going
with a bicycle, he's got a woman's severed head,
is, you know, in the back,
and he drops it on the ground.
He's like, my head, please.
And the cops like, hey, wait right there.
You dropped your lettuce, buddy.
Come on.
Yeah, yeah, that's all dirty now.
You gotta take that home to the kiddies.
Well, thank you, officer.
You know, you have a good night now.
Yeah.
There's like all these cases like that were,
like, if it doesn't, if the case doesn't actually fall into the cop's hand
just they don't get it, you know?
Like, there's so many, yeah.
There's a lot of dumb luck involved as well.
Yeah.
Because you know, like, because of Hannibal Lecter and all that,
People think, like, serial killers are like these kind of masterminds.
Like, a lot of them are more like mine hunter where they can't really wash themselves properly and they masturbate too much.
Yeah.
Is that a, oh, my God.
Oh, no.
Well, you know what?
I've been thinking about this.
I'll tell you.
I say this about a serial killer, you know, they were active.
They were out of the house and they were doing stuff.
You know, I'm just like, when I'm, what do they call it, bed rotting?
when you're just lying in bed
doom scrolling for hours on end
it's like I mean they were out there
chopping off women's heads and having
sex with the heads
they weren't on Reddit
no they weren't on the soprano subreddit
giggling like a schoolgirl
when someone uses
dialogue in context
of the original posts
I get it that's so good
oh I've wasted my life
I'm a fucking loser
I am a worthless piece of
shit.
I mean, I could never just meet
a woman who was six kids
and be like, hey, darling, let me take your
kiddies on a day trip.
She'd be like, oh, no, you read it, freak.
Didn't pass the vibe check.
You love to artly all charm.
Too many red flags.
Yeah.
Turning well as about the movie,
because the movie's very long. There's some very nice
little touches to as well, you know, like, you know,
when we watch that tower being built
and stuff, or that kind of
the montage with no
picture is very cool
It's just all audio
like radio broadcasts
I love to see it's in the cinema
You probably good
No
No
A guy like me
Yeah
You think they'd let your type
Into the cinema
I'll keep
We heard you're unemployed
We don't let people like you in here
Get a job
You hippie
Don't have like unemployment passes and stuff
What
I know some places
They have like
You know special discounts
For the unemployed
No they don't
They do
What places
Horroises?
Brothels?
Soup kitchens.
Crack dance?
It's like get this crack
extra cheap, right?
On a mate's rate.
You better get on my body, motherfucker.
You ain't got no money.
You better put their mouth to work, girl.
I beg your part.
This is a strange soup kitchen.
Yeah, so they've got like
discounts here at certain cinemas and stuff.
Wow, I've never.
not in Ireland
Oh right
Okay that makes sense
It's like Canada stuff
Yeah well of course in Canada
Yeah
Unemployment discount card
I think in Canada
They let you into a kids movie for free
If you bring the child you're grooming
Like oh yes
One Pito pass please
Oh sorry
I was going to website there about
Unappliament Pass
And I tried to
I just press register for the crack
And it says connection not
not safe.
Yeah.
What's that mean?
It means get off
that website right now.
I never do that.
No, you got
where's your adventurous spirit?
You're got to manifest destiny.
Yeah, yeah.
The wild frontier.
But yeah, Zodiac, great film.
Great, great film.
I loved it a lot.
I will watch documentary.
I mean, it's not really,
it's three episodes,
which it didn't need to be.
Could have been 90 minutes,
but whatever.
You know, there's some interesting anecdotes.
I'm not angry.
I'm not angry
I'm totally fine
What time is there
53 minutes
So you've got some time to kill there
It's perfect
I'm going to stretch a bit
I watched
Woman of the Hour as well
Oh speaking to killers
Yes 70s killers
Would you recommend that
I would actually
I was pleasantly surprised
No
No it didn't blow my cock off
But it's
It's solid
It's you know
entertaining
It's well done
It's a directorial debut
From Anna Kendrick
who also stars in it as well
and forgive my ignorance from it
now. Yes. Did they not... I never do
but okay. Did they make a movie about this
guy before? I think they might have
done like a TV movie. Yeah, like a TV
movie. Like a HBO thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And remind me of case again
this guy. He was a cool guy, wasn't he? Really cool.
Like the coolest guy, I mean
I thought I knew all the cool serial killers, but this guy
this guy blew my cock off.
His name was Rodney
Akala Akalaka
Shamalamaddingda
Akalaka or something like that
Rodney Mexican
Rodney King
Yeah
But so he was
It's weird
So he's called the dating show
Or the dating game killer
Yeah
Because he appeared on the dating game
Which was a 70s show
Like blind date
I know about this because
Opin Anthony talked about him once
Yeah
I think it was a big news story
When it happened
But like
He had already committed
several rates and murders
by the time he is one of
the contestants. So the whole thing is
like it's blind date. There's a partition
there's three guys on one
side and then the girl comes out
and she's asking questions.
Bachelor number one.
If you wanted to rape and kill me
how would you do it? This is
a show format that I think our
generation would already know through
SNL sketches. It's a format
for a sketch really. But
I'm right at it. I didn't do some
mall rats as well, isn't it?
They did.
Yes, yes.
So it'd be stuff like, you know,
if I was an ice cream,
what would you do to me?
I'd put you on my cock
and then stick it up your mother's age.
No, it's something more charming
to that, James, you know?
I'd unwrap you
and...
You'd unwrap ice cream.
Yeah.
I'd break you in half.
It was like if I was a cherry
Sunday it was like oh
I'd lick you up and down and save
the cherries for letters something like that
you know I do yeah
well it's obviously going to sound gross what I
say it you know
weird time is it and they kept saying
whoopi you know yes
when you're making whoopee
do you do it when consensually
maybe a birthday
sweetheart I saved a cherry for later
but um
Tony Hale
from uh
Tobias from Arrested Development. He is the...
Killer. No, he's the host.
Okay. He's the TV show host, but he's a real
asshole. I can't say.
But Anna Kendrick, so it's based on real thing.
We're going to Google this while you're talking for a second.
So Anna Kendrick's like a struggling actress.
She gets, you know, she asked to be,
appear on this talk show. And this is kind of
interspersing her story as a struggling actors
with him committing multiple murders.
Because the thing about him is he spawned, like,
he went on a rampage
like he was it took over a decade
for him to get caught and he
was like in LA then New York
then like San Francisco
he bumped around a good bit and again
much like the Zodiac because of
incompetence and
carelessness and people not giving his shit
like he was arrested and let go
a few times he was able to get
away with it for so long
and like the fact just how brazen
he was that like he had already
been arrested and released
and then he appears on the dating game
and then even after that it still takes a while
but yeah he committed
he's like charged for eight but they estimate
that he had like way more
some have estimated as high as like a hundred
victims I just saw on Wikipedia
103 yeah like so crazy
like but so again
this movie is all about
it's detailing it's obviously
the real life story but at their
the main point of it is how like
the
how easy it is for a woman to feel unsafe,
being alone with a man that you don't know,
you know, that's straight, like, women just can't be alone at night, you know.
Apart from me, I'll protect you.
Okay, yes.
I'm being your Tony Hale.
Yeah.
There's a lot of creeps out there.
Let's go home watch Zodiac.
I'll protect you, my queen.
I'll watch in betweeners.
boss wanker
I can get it to the movies for free
because I'm unemployed
and disabled
so they give me two tickets for free
every Wednesday
only the matinee shows
mind you
that's a
oh watch that it's on Netflix
it's on Netflix it's 90 minutes
it's done well
it's very like kind of
stripped back
kind of bare bones
no big frills
It's kind of, for a directorial debut, it was good.
What movies should be, shouldn't it?
Yeah, I agree.
Women getting scared.
Yeah, yeah.
And the big men feeling strong.
And the guy, he's very good at playing like creepy weirdo.
I'll watch anything with Tony Hale in it.
Yeah, yeah, he's very good.
He wears that or yoga hosers?
I'll watch anything with Tony.
I've never seen yoga hosers.
My man, Tony Hale.
Yeah.
People have said that, so you know the way Haley Joel,
what's her name
Haley
Haley Smith
Oh
Kevin Smith's daughter
I've heard
Some people say
That like
He shoots her
In a way
That makes you concerned
Really
Yeah
Like yoga
Yeah like yoga
Right
Oh
And the camera would be
lingering on
His daughter
More than Johnny Depp's daughter
Oh
Because nobody wants to
Johnny Depp's daughter
Yeah
She's from bad stock
Yeah
They want to see
The Depp man
Oh
I haven't
I be honest
I haven't watched
The 430 movie yet
I have seen some clips of it though
Right
I think that's good enough do you
No no I'm going to watch it
Don't know sorry sorry I'm going to watch it right
My point is okay
Don't make me angry
So you know it's about the 430 movie
It's about these kids
And they're going to watch a movie of 430
Yeah
Alright
I mean and they say he's running out of ideas
And he shot it in his own cinema
Okay
He bought a little cinema and he shot the movie there right
Right
But the clip I saw okay
is they do fake trailers
before the movie
and they look very fake
I will say now
it looks
it's meant to be set in like a
refreshing idea
that people did in 2007
yeah well you know it's set in the 80s
all right
but all the trailers they're looking at
are like grind house trailer
or like trailers like the star like
a debt wish
yeah yeah there's all that stuff
so it's all like his daughter playing
like a sexy nun
uh huh it's like the nun with a gun
the girl with big tits
and is this her with a good
nothing covering her big teeth
but it's all like very like
standing from the green screen
it's just not very believable
it looks very low budget from a clips
I've seen yes well
you know the way they shot it
they're able to shoot it during the
writer strike
during the actor strike
because it was so cheap
didn't even count to the movie
I'm not even joking
what yeah it was just so cheap
to like it go for it
it's basic so what are they
So...
It's basically a YouTube
sketch.
He can't write any of it off
as like a tax
like business expense
or anything?
How does it work?
I don't know
but during a writer's strike
they were like
you can shoot it
like no one cares about you
Yeah
Like we're gonna stop making
Deadpool Wolverine
Yeah
Yeah but he
Kevin Smith
I used to Will Smith
Kevin Smith
I mean you never know
nowadays it could be
Kevin Smith is like
The Smiths
The Smith brothers
What?
You're my brother
Yeah, yeah, woo-woo, whoa, what, whoa, whoa, that'd be a funny comedy.
Yeah, what a...
See, yeah, new comedy coming out now.
Brothers.
No.
Oh, it's very funny.
It's Peter Dinklage and Josh Brolin play brothers.
They play brothers?
Yeah, it's by one of the Farleys.
Oh.
And...
The Oscar winning one?
No.
I'll have to take your word for it.
Probably put their dicks in, like, a finger trap.
I guess I could kind of see Josh Brolin and Peter Dinklage
could be like a mini-me version maybe.
Yeah, something fun to give them a mustache each.
Yeah, because they both got like beards and similar hair
and probably similar dick sizes.
You know what, I said that in a comedic way.
Like, it was like, ha ha, what a stupid movie.
I've already won myself over.
It makes perfect sense.
Better than any fucking gay Anna Kendrick shit you're watching.
It was a powerful exploration of violence against women, Brian.
I felt safe and empowered for once.
I've got the eye of the tiger.
yeah
now it's good to see
a nice and scared
oh weren't it
she got her at a big
gob on her though
she big fucking gnats
is sticking out
fucking go
to the dentist love
yeah
I haven't watched anything else
that's all I have now
I wanted
the only I wanted to watch
actually
I thought it might be cool
not cool
but I was like
I might go back
and watch
the old mumblecore movies
yeah
because you know
people love Greta Gerwig
and all there
I've never seen any those
you know Francis Ha or like early
you know the squid in the whale or anything
I've never seen any of those
Oh that's great squid in the whale
Like early Duplas brother stuff
There's a few that kind of went under the radar
That I had a real fondness for
I had a real
Sawspot for mumblecore movies
The only mumblecore film I've ever seen is Cyrus
Cyrus is great
I love Cyrus yeah yeah
There's one called cold weather
It's about like these two like factory workers
That get obsessed with
Sherlock Holmes books
And then one of their
friends goes missing, so it's like a real
life, oh, where'd you go? We've got to find her.
It's just getting very kind of like, there's something
very nice about the
understated, you know,
sad, depressing
lives of white, middle-aged men.
Something I can identify with.
Just out of college and don't know where in the
Yeah. Yeah. I just got out of
college 17 years ago.
That was the plot of Greenberg.
What am I going to do with my life?
That was the flaw of Greenberg, I think.
Ben's dinner's like, I just got out of college.
Last year.
It's like 43.
I don't know what to do with myself.
Yeah.
Yeah, so it's a spot.
So I mentioned mumblecore a while ago.
Who?
Who are you talking about mumblecore with?
A guy of my friend Michael.
Yeah.
He wouldn't know, all right, yeah.
But the point is, okay.
That's his favorite mumblecore film.
Huh?
That's better to mind, is it?
Don't tell me, baghead.
I'm the puffy chair.
Oh, my goodness.
Wow.
Oh, quite a connoisseur.
But mumbochore is one of those films like,
yeah, I know what mumbocore is.
I haven't seen any of them.
Even like Cyrus, don't it really counts
because that's like fucking Jonah Hill and John C-Roy.
I want to see like a proper mumblecore one.
You don't know any of them.
That's a shot for like, you know, two euro.
And half of them are dead.
Or pedophiles.
Yeah.
Oh, the petos are thriving.
Mark Duplast, look at him.
The biggest pedo go.
There's no real mumbocore films anymore.
No.
We could bring it back.
like Irish mumblecore
Yeah
That's kind of like
What our lives are though
Isn't it?
No I think we could do
A good mumblecore film
Okay
About about the farm
Farm life
Yeah
Yeah
I think there's a very
interesting film to be made
Of like
Old Irish traditional farm
life meeting
contemporary post Celtic tiger
21st century depression
But down like
Let's shoot a porno
on the film
Yes
On the farm
Right
And I'm kind of like
The Bert Reynolds type
In a way
You're a roller girl.
Yeah, I'm good with that.
I would have said Phillips Seymour Hoffman,
but I'll play both roles.
I could do it.
A contemporary remake of Boogie Nights.
You're doing that in that Saturday Night Live movie.
Nicholas Braun is playing Jim Henson and Andy Kaufman.
Oh, really?
Yeah, did you know that?
No.
Is this meant to be Andy Kaufman playing?
No.
Oh, no.
They had somebody, they had Benny Safty as Andy Kaufman.
Yeah.
Nicholas Braun was cast as Jim Henson
and then Benny Saffty had to drop out
so the director Jason Reitman
basically said to Nicholas Braun
do want to play Andy Kaufman
he's like oh yeah instead of Jim Henson
goes no you can just do both
well that's just show us how much they care
about the film then yeah
you want to do fucking you want to play Dan Aykroy as well
yeah yeah actually
we need somebody to be
Richard Pryor
yeah yeah
come on
Come on, Cousin Greg.
Yeah, I really don't want to watch that film, that Saturday Night Live film.
I'll watch it when it's on streaming.
So you're not coming to my Saturday Night Live movie streaming party.
You're going to dress up as the car.
It's the premiere.
I'm going as Gilda Radner.
About three weeks before she died.
I'm going as a samurai.
Cheese bagger, would you like a cheese bagger?
Oh, I guess this was funny back then, I suppose.
yeah yeah um none of it was ever any good was it no they were just on cocaine yeah that's it
cocaine um but yeah i'm not really much interested in that i was going to make another point there
but i can't remember i think it's getting late now that's a very mumbled core yeah way to end the show
sorry i'm just tired there a second i had a big yogurt and um not big i had a very small yogurt
I had a child-sized yogurt
And now I'm in a food coma
Yeah
It was like Christmas Day
I couldn't possibly have another bite
Yeah
Who cares I'm gonna make a good point there
To tighten the whole show up to you
And I ruined it as I am one to do
I just came in a like
Well he's probably been a black guy
Who shall be going on
I won't one
in the fam blood
walk one with the mandem ting
because that's what I do
that's what I contribute to the show
You excel
That's all I am
Just a fat retard doing racist voices
And saying the occasional slur
And that's why I don't get booked
For any comedy gigs
Or have many friends
Oh no don't worry
When you go to see SNL
Saturday night
That'll change everything
Yeah I might even go with you
You know
We can go as like
You know those
you know like when Steve Martin
why do you do those two groovy guys
too wild and crazy guys
well look if you're not going to fucking commit
to it Brian if you're not actually going to
learn the fucking script beforehand
then why are we even going? I'm not very going
you know those two
unusual guys those two
normal everyday guys
who talk in a proper way
hello there sir we are two normal
everyday gentlemen and we'd like to see
a movie
what movie we haven't
decided. You're doing like too
a while. It's like, look
it's the Blues Brothers.
It's Coenheads.
Oh, you don't want to watch
actually. You might watch Blue's Brothers 2000.
You watch that? I have
seen that when I was a kid.
Because I remember thinking, wow, there's a
kid in that movie. He must be
the coolest, happiest kid.
100%. I bet
John Goodman sat on him
and they just buried him out the back
and nobody asked any questions.
Nobody, yeah. They just
flushed them down the toilets of the disabled
Jags at the movie premiere
and nobody is like
ah that was just John Belushi's
retarded nephew he's gone
goodbye anyway uh I think that's the end of show
blues brother is 2000
well we'll have a full report in that next week
like Zodiac
yeah bye
