Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 233 : Am I a Zodiac?

Episode Date: November 10, 2024

Zodiac is back and he brought Matt Walsh along as well....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right. We're back, guys, for a free one. We're watching some cool stuff downstairs, and we've got some cool stuff to talk about. I'm feeling good. I'm feeling clear. I'm drinking Red Bull Blue Edition. No, Juneberry edition.
Starting point is 00:00:13 Juneberry. What's the Juneberry? It's like a black thing or something. Yeah, like Juneteenth. Yeah. But in a berry flavor. Ooh. It's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:00:22 It's racial harmony in a can. How does it taste? It tastes lovely now. Yeah, this is great. actually it tastes a bit shy actually I don't like it not to be racist or anything but it just
Starting point is 00:00:35 it's like it's like it's like mixing those two flavors together it never works does it well actually I did watch Am I a Racist the new Matt Walsh documentary
Starting point is 00:00:48 which was like one of the biggest things of the last year it was a huge success financially yeah yeah exactly critically people are like ooh it's bad yeah but hey the numbers don't lie baby
Starting point is 00:01:00 it made a lot of money a lot of money I think it made more money than like some of the Marvel movies yeah like beat like Miss Marvel yeah obviously Choker 2 blew it out of the water what are some other big movies that it did better than like it really it performed
Starting point is 00:01:17 it was I think the highest grossing documentary of the box office since like a Michael Moore documentary there's a while there where documentaries are something that you commonly see the cinema. Yes. And it was like Michael Moore,
Starting point is 00:01:29 Morgan Spurlock, and, Errol Morris to a degree in the more artsy cinemas. Yeah, that was for like, the guys were like, I don't want some guy
Starting point is 00:01:37 eat a little chicken. Yeah. I want to watch something cool, you know? Yeah, but that, he was like a raging alcoholics, like,
Starting point is 00:01:45 oh, no, Big Macs gave me fatty liver disease. The Big Mac made me touch that woman. Yeah, it was a thing. He got me to, yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:54 By himself. What? No, he didn't. No, he did. Well, that was preemptive. That was like, I'm me doing myself because I'm so noble. Those of women were like, we were just, they were just about to publish something. I don't think they were.
Starting point is 00:02:06 I think the woman was like, oh, wait, yeah, forgot about that. I got finger banged by the supersized me guy. I totally spaced on that. Anyway. Finger bang me. Look, I don't know. I need to go into, I don't want to libel the dead, okay? I don't know what Morgan Spurlock was up to.
Starting point is 00:02:23 Point is, I watch Am I Racist by Matt Walsh. And the whole thing is, it's all making fun of, is it DEI, is that what's called? Yes. What's that again? Diversity. Diversity, equality and inclusion. That's it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:38 Equity and inclusion. So Matt Walsh, she's a conservative kind of like commentator, a bit of a grifter, you know. Daily wire. Yeah, has a beard. Kind of an unlikable. Very unlikable. Very unpleasant. Very annoying.
Starting point is 00:02:51 He's very kind of like atheist in church. Kind of like actually, you know, like kind of like if Ben, all that massive charisma he's guy. Ben Shapiro out of all the sex appeal. Yeah. I'm a picture Ben Shapiro, but his sister doesn't have gigantic tits. Oh my God.
Starting point is 00:03:09 Heyo. A couple of his bollas. Hey, oh, array. Oh. I double D.F. What's funny is this film starts, it's, um, Am I racist? You know, like, you probably don't, but the Marvel movies start off in a montage
Starting point is 00:03:25 of all the other previous Marvel movies. And it's like, oh wow it's like um yeah it's my favorite studio marvel yay this has a montage of all the what are they called again rebel media what are they called again daily wire daily wire i'd say sorry it's like a montage of all the daily wire movies so it's just like lady ballers and like am i a woman and that's all they have is it just reminds you of all the shit they've done yeah which are both and i haven't watched am i a woman fully i've watched bits and pieces okay and seems very like you know
Starting point is 00:03:57 same with this film all right you know what's Jordan Klepper and Jordan Klepper interviews some mad guy in the woods who like supports Trump
Starting point is 00:04:05 and it's very easy laughs to get something out of that yes it's very similar to this we just talk like the craziest people the most extreme
Starting point is 00:04:14 left wing people the most extreme people who by the way which I don't go into in the film much have already been discredited for the most part by the left wing as well
Starting point is 00:04:23 you know and it's kind of go up and get them some stupid shit and that's really it and the kind of premise of the film is Matt Walsh has this, he's in a, to do a recreation of him
Starting point is 00:04:35 in a, in a cafe all right, in a diner, I should say a diner and he's watching the view and on the view it's a real clip that me like, and white people need to check their privilege, white people are racist you know? Right. He's like, is there true? Is there true? Oh, white people are racist? I don't feel racist
Starting point is 00:04:51 but it can be quite awkward being a white guy and this is a Very Michael Moorish. This is the comedy, all right? And a black woman comes up, it's like, how do you want your coffee? Uh, black? Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:05:06 And that's how it starts off, man. We're already laughing. Okay. So, and then he decides to investigate racism, all right? Does it exist? Or is it just all made up? Well, I think, to be honest at you, there's a much better film hidden in this.
Starting point is 00:05:24 Okay. Like if a Sasha Barra Cohen or someone did this, you could get something really funny that appeals to all ends of the spectrum. Yeah. All right. Like a lot of these... Like, which is what kind of bore at and Bruno did, you know. So a lot of these, like, diversity people, they're first of all white people, okay? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Who, they go around to offices and they go around the companies at Coca-Cola and they're like, I'm going to teach all the staff here, especially like the Mexicans and the how to not be racist, okay? And they get paid like 300 grand. Nice. And it's all very, very basic stuff. It's all just a H.O. or a box-taking exercise, whatever, okay? Is that woman, Robin DiAngelo, for example. Yeah. Yeah, she's like the most famous example of that.
Starting point is 00:06:03 White fragility, yeah. Which, it turns out, I think she just stole all that from some black people. She has plagiarized it. Classic. That's what I mean. Like, this is like, a tale's all the time itself, right? Yes. The point is, um...
Starting point is 00:06:17 She Elvis Presleyed on racism. Nice. So she She didn't date a young child But like she She is pretty silly Okay So he can easy to make fun of that
Starting point is 00:06:31 Yeah But Matt Walsh Doesn't really have the comedic chops To do much with this And the bits aren't that funny Okay So for example Like he goes to
Starting point is 00:06:43 This thing that is a real thing That a lot of white people Will pay for To feel bad Because he's got like a Puerto Rican maid Or something you know So, like, I'm going to go to a racism course to talk by this black woman
Starting point is 00:06:55 where we do meditations on whiteness and all that. You know, yeah, okay? And it's like 30 grand to do this. Meditations on whiteness, eh? Yeah, yeah. It's all very silly kind of like, you know, rich people stuff, all right? Okay. But so the thing is, then he shows up.
Starting point is 00:07:11 He's like, oh, is this meditating? Uh, should I stop talking or meditating? Uh, okay. And then, like, he just kind of, like, is a bit annoying. Yeah. So, and that's, he thinks he's very funny but he's not he's not no
Starting point is 00:07:25 again like atheists in the church in the way it's like they say they'll say something kind of stupid actually uh that's not true and that's it that's like the joke it was like religious with Bill Maher he goes to a truck stop
Starting point is 00:07:38 is saying you actually believe that your dead child is in heaven you idiot he goes to a hospice see someone's got like a cross like look at look at a
Starting point is 00:07:51 new rule if you're a leukemia retard you're gonna burn in hell not heaven still feel comforted by the afterlife i didn't think so so i'm trying to think how it goes and then he just stops and stares at the nurses until they start laughing and applauding yeah that's right um so like it starts off with that and the old thing is like he goes there and they're very hostile to him because he's matt walsh okay yeah and uh you know they're like please remove you know please leave and he's like oh i didn't give you consent to to remove me they're like okay we'll just leave you know it's like that and like they're stupid he's stupid as well you know they're all annoying all right he's like well aren't you morally superior riser i'm the smartest coolest guy there is yeah with a big old penis
Starting point is 00:08:39 yeah both sides of dial are pretty stupid if you ask me you know it's all about the benjamins I'm like a taxi driver I'm all folk of rats You know You got the puppet on the right The puppet on the left But you're not noticed That the same guy's controlling both
Starting point is 00:09:00 Puppets, man Are you awake? Yeah So he then goes like To understand these people I must become one of these people And from in I was like Is he going to do blackface?
Starting point is 00:09:12 Oh my God Hello! Welcome to Amarlesa with Matt Walsh. It is my documentary. I'm so happy to be here to find out the white fragility. Let's go. So all he does, he takes his glasses off, all right? The old Clark Kent to Superman, huh?
Starting point is 00:09:32 Yeah, reverse with that yet. This glass stuff, and he puts on a slightly bigger beard, like, puts his hair down, okay? And he was like, howlal, and he puts on a fucking, like, a fucking, like, translates matter badge on or whatever like that, right? Right, right. Hey, I'm a liberal.
Starting point is 00:09:45 Whoa. Then he goes to places. Hey, where is the nearest abortion clinic? I've got the monchies. I smoked a dupe. And now I want to go eat a fetus. That's what they do, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:01 Like, he just goes, again, he just goes to other places, different courses and all that. And he's like, asked, like, pretty stupid, but kind of, like, basic questions, you know, like, you know, kind of like, you know, white people are bad. actually what about Abraham Lincoln though and that's that's it all right closet homosexual and a depression case there don't solve it what get out next
Starting point is 00:10:25 any white person I'll get him but like and then he does little kind of like he'll even call him skits but you're like bits you know like Michael Moore might try and get like politicians assigned their kids up to Iraq War
Starting point is 00:10:44 Or like when he bought He opened a bank account And they gave him a gun Even though it turns out like Like he edited it Yeah Well that was a long pause between it But he made it look like it was like it was like it was there
Starting point is 00:10:59 On the day Is that stupid? Because even getting a gun after a week If you join the bank is still pretty bad Yeah they didn't give him ammo though Or yeah I don't think Well ammo is pretty easy to get I believe Look I don't know what that
Starting point is 00:11:10 But the point is Look at you, you communist fuck. Or they do like, they do a little bit of like how this DEI stuff is pretty, it's like a grift, all right? Yeah. Okay. And then they go into like Jussie Smollett.
Starting point is 00:11:24 Oh. They try to link those two. Speaking the grifters. And then they have Matt Walsh reenact the Jussie Millett story. Whoa. So he's walk around a town with like a noose around his neck. Yeah. Being like, oh, I'm Jossie Smollett.
Starting point is 00:11:38 And a subway sandwich up his ass. He's the same. taking some liberties with the story. That's it, all right? I was like, all right. And then he's a bit where he gets all these people, he teaches him to get a white guilt class or something, something stupid, right?
Starting point is 00:11:55 And the kind of joke is he brings out this old fella in a wheelchair. He was like clearly kind of like out of it. He's like, ugh. And he's like, this is a white guy. He's got all the power. I want you guys to all yell at him. Oh, right. And then he goes like, I don't care how powerful you are, okay?
Starting point is 00:12:10 and that's it you know which is that's the only bit all right but the point is he rolls on some old demented
Starting point is 00:12:20 gooburn you horrible fuck that's pretty funny I'm getting a chuckle out of that in the 90 minutes but that's it
Starting point is 00:12:28 and I wanted to go further I want to kick him out the wheelchair and be like you know like I don't care you yeah that you deserve that like really go for it
Starting point is 00:12:35 yeah and it needed more kind of stunts like I was thinking like maybe a stunt you could do is like you get all these people at some like college somewhere like we're going to have a statue of a powerful like a of a great black man and you pull down the curtain it's like Bill Cosby or something like that like something like that yeah like a big elaborate stunt like that yeah or just go further with the stunts but it's pretty kind of like that the only bit that maybe like he's just because he is a proper it's like Tim and Eric almost he's a proper like old guy yeah and they're all yelling at him but what are they all yelling like what type of no he's only he yells oh it's only him he he's only him he he's he's only him he's he He doesn't get, because he doesn't have the charisma to get all the other people to yell. Oh, that's, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:13 That's what I mean, like, you should have gone further with it. Yeah, yeah. And being like a Nate and Field, like, if Nathan Fielder did this, you could do something really funny and really clever. The plan, finding out this racism exists. Turns out it does, and boy, they did not like me. Oh, geez. And I think what would have really helped as well if you wanted to get, like, mainstream appeal, because, like, this was popular amongst his crowd, all right?
Starting point is 00:13:38 Yeah. But it's kind of like, it could. it would have been 20% more shit and it still would be popular. True. It's the same, like, if you release a Taylor Swift concert film, the quality isn't really matter. Yes. Yeah. Taylor Swift fans will see it.
Starting point is 00:13:51 True. But if you want something like, everyone will see, you have to have something extra. So I think you should have tried to like really go for it, you know, maybe get like a few black comedians, something like that to write some bits as well. And maybe have them as like kind of like, almost like props in a way, like have them as a plant to have some black comedian as a plant
Starting point is 00:14:08 so you can play off them and really go like over top you know yeah yeah uh it was thinking it's kind of like if you got like me to play bruno in a movie and i was like oh i'm gay and they're like oh really it's like yes i am um i am a homosexual yes that's correct and then they send me to like uh like a military base like oh i might touch one the guys and i don't do that i'm like okay sorry sorry i respect thank you for your service thank you for your service i respect you so much it's a little comedy left on the table i felt it oh and at the end to go back to that diner, right?
Starting point is 00:14:43 And it's like, the, the most, the stuff where he's trying to be funny is like the worst part of it. He goes back to the diner and he's like, stands up. He's like, I don't care what the view says, all right? I think that, you know, we aren't racist. In America's country of yada, yada, yada, yeah. People coming together and follow your dream.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Doesn't matter what race you are and all that. And everyone starts clapping and cheering for him. This is all like, very clearly like, stay, like just filmed, you know? the lighting and all that. It's a slow montage. And it cuts back to her, be like, and what type of coffee do you want? You're like, ugh.
Starting point is 00:15:17 It was all a dream. Yeah. And then the old goober in the wheelchair. Yeah. He's just there and he smiles. Ah. That's it. Oh. Yeah. So I was not too impressed with this Matt Waltz production. But I won't, he's like Woody Allen, you know.
Starting point is 00:15:32 I'll always see his new film. I don't care what they say. You know, I'll always support him. Now, did you, uh, subscribe? to The Daily Wire and give him your hard-earned money. I did not know. I'm sorry, man. I stole it like a fucking common criminal off online.
Starting point is 00:15:49 Actually, I'll be interesting what you think of it. I'll make you watch it at gunpoint. Yeah, I don't really, you know. It's pretty tedious now. I don't fight, like, I fight him very, like, I mean, it's not like I like Ben Shapiro at all, but like... Ben Shapiro, at least, is actually kind of funnier in a way, because he's more annoying, but in a kind of like,
Starting point is 00:16:09 cartoon Artie Ziff kind of way Whereas Matt, well also I don't know what, and I know I've said this many times, I am convinced his beard is not real. I think he had like a beard transplant or something. Transplant and dying it. It looks, maybe dying as well actually, but it just looks
Starting point is 00:16:25 so fake. I think I know a lot of lads that get grey in their beard sooner you think, you know, and he what are you to see now? He's got to be near 40 at least. I would say he's over 40. I'll find out. This is like a fun game we can play with the whole family
Starting point is 00:16:40 how old is Matt Walsh because there's the actor Matt Walsh as well yeah from Veeb oh man he's 308 yeah yeah man
Starting point is 00:16:50 the beard looks so fake it really does and his like whole demeanors like well okay but oh you know he's just like
Starting point is 00:16:57 just an unlikable condescending douche I just I get there is I know I did kind of
Starting point is 00:17:05 find interesting watching the seminars and stuff and they did like land acknowledgements and all that obviously you know with that type of stuff it's easy to ridicule because it is pretty ridiculous even a few days ago
Starting point is 00:17:19 they had like I think Kamala did like a land acknowledgement at some event while they're like chanting about Palestinians just like be quiet you know like you're ruining it yeah like it's very easy to burst that bubble you know yes
Starting point is 00:17:34 the hypocrisy is on display and yeah but again this is like most people would agree with that thing like when you go after like am I a woman that's like trans stuff and that's like kind of like very you know it's I don't know what I'm saying really
Starting point is 00:17:50 I'm just saying like it's it's not that funny you know when you get to the trans stuff it's all very like you know people dying like transphobic and all that but with this it's just like oh we're just making fun of like some rich white woman that's making money off racism
Starting point is 00:18:04 like it's easier to kind of like get away with it come together with that Yeah, yeah, true That's all I have to say really about it I will watch it nine more times Two thumbs up from Briahood O'Toole changed my mind and changed my life
Starting point is 00:18:20 Next time on the bus I'll have, oh So I watch that We want to talk about Zodiac as well Yeah I really just want to talk with Zodiac Let's do it man, let's get into Zodiac It's our Halloween episode
Starting point is 00:18:36 It's spooky season I was going to watch a bit of rivals Everyone's talking about rivals That's the new hit show With David Tennant and some really hot guy Where they play like It's in the 80s And they play guys who like
Starting point is 00:18:49 Like business guys Who like the fuck Each other No no no Don't be crazy James Sorry I mean I didn't know It's like I think it's like
Starting point is 00:18:59 Disney Plus are trying to do their version of Dallas In the way Okay But it's set in England And Right In the 80s In the 80s
Starting point is 00:19:07 you saw excess. That's what white gold was about. This is like white gold about those fucking, one of them a rapist? Yeah, the best-looking ones. But fucking, but Jaf and in between hers is grand.
Starting point is 00:19:22 Man, he's milky, like, he's killing it on cameo. He just, like, he sits in his bed calling people boss wankers and he's a millionaire. It's going to be so funny, like, he'll literally be in the, like, on his deathbed,
Starting point is 00:19:34 you know, like he's like 90 years old. like, and I say it bus wanker. Like he's getting beaten by the nurses because he won't say bus wanker.
Starting point is 00:19:44 And they're like you don't do in between his reunion. What's Simon Bird like in real life? Is that his real nose? I can't believe I haven't done in betweeners three.
Starting point is 00:19:56 That's like money on the table. I've heard that's common. I haven't heard. I have my finger to the ground and my ear to my nose, all right? I haven't heard anything about it. There's always rumours about it, but that's money on the table, dude.
Starting point is 00:20:10 What would they do then? Them is like, young dads. Just do the hangover. Yeah. I'm not saying this is going to be good, but if you want to make money, okay. Yeah. Jay is getting married. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:21 It's one last night and they go to Benadourn. Okay. And Johnny Vegas is there. Johnny Vegas, he's perfect, okay? Hannah Waddingham's got her baps out. No, no. No, no. You couldn't have that now.
Starting point is 00:20:35 She was in Benadorm with her baps out. Yes, yes. This is a movie now. It's a classy James, all right? You want to make some money off this, right? Yeah, nobody wants to see her. No cheap in the in-betweeners. You're right, you're right.
Starting point is 00:20:49 So Johnny Vegas is in a Borat mankini. Munkie. Oh, we shredding up me bummole. A funny scene where, like, let's say Simon Burr, okay? Yeah. He finds some gummies, but it turns out they're weed gummies. That could be very funny, you know. And then, so he, uh, he wakes up, a hog tied in a cheap motel with three Brazilians gang raping him after Kim Sex gone wrong.
Starting point is 00:21:21 Hi, I'm Will and how did I end up here getting banned by Brazilians? They're watching the in-betweeners downstairs a while ago. some bits are pretty funny. It's a funny show. I liked it a lot. Just like, Jay is like so like, I'm finger fucking her and I'm just tow fucking the one on the floor. That's a very funny. There's a lot of funny stuff in it. Yeah, it's pretty consistently funny. I remember like my house, just a little snob as a kid. I was watching me like, it's just repetitive. You're such a little fucking dwee, weren't you? What were you into? What were you saying about? Go on. I was watching stalker.
Starting point is 00:22:05 something, Solaris or something. You're watching Barry Lyndon while, you know, all your schoolmates are going out drinking and fingering each other. It's like, no, actually, I'm one... There's a Ken Loach revival happening in the local
Starting point is 00:22:23 cinema, yes, so if you'll excuse me. Yeah, and you just get on your penny farthing and ride into town. I remember actually saying someone like, I thought season tree disappointing, because it didn't spend much time within school. they're always going on trips and stuff and this is very cheap I taught you know
Starting point is 00:22:39 would have been cheaper to be in the school I didn't deal at real social issues you know they didn't tackle broken Britain you know yeah I haven't actually you know what I'll be honest I never finished the second movie
Starting point is 00:22:57 I mean it's definitely the worst of the whole lot the first movie I very much enjoyed I remember I actually went to the cinema to watch it with my friend and we had a good time and all that and then the second one I watch with some lads when we were smoking weed
Starting point is 00:23:12 and then whatever happened I think we all just kind of like got bored of it yeah it wasn't very good it was very much like that I think we're either too high or not high enough yeah it was a very obvious half-hearted cash grab
Starting point is 00:23:23 that nobody really wanted you know but now they can cash in in the whole nostalgia thing yeah yeah now she'll they go to call you my a bender and a puff so we need to bring it back, let's.
Starting point is 00:23:37 You know, that'll be the whole thing. Yeah, they'll have to have something to see you more. It'll be Jay joins the BNP and Neil's like. I don't know, Jay, it seems like it's a bit horrible. They're not very nice. No, it's all right, yeah? Oh, you know how I love shaved minge. They shave everything.
Starting point is 00:23:57 Skinheads, skin twats. Shaved heads, shave twats. Neil, come on. Oh, yeah, I'm accent. you know I could it's easy man I could rewrite this at a heartbeat You're doing great on this
Starting point is 00:24:13 Yeah Call the boys I tell you My only stipulation is I want to be cast As Jay's dad No I'll be his uncle Brother of Jay's dad And we're a pop
Starting point is 00:24:30 Couple of rough and ready lads Why yeah let's have me like you I just want the dad. That's it. He's dad. He's great. He's so funny. And Nile's dad as well, yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:39 It's a funny show. Yeah, yeah. You know what? I turn around it now. In-between her is a good show, right? Yes, there we go. I'm going to buy the Blu-Rays. But anyway, what are we talking about?
Starting point is 00:24:47 Zodiac. I don't know how we fell into an in-betweener's wormhole there. What the fuck, do it? I don't know how we did that. Let me just check my notes. I'm taking, oh, yeah, we're talking with rivals, sorry. Rivals. Yeah, what was, I had nothing to say about that.
Starting point is 00:25:02 I mentioned white gold. and then that was it nobody even knows what white gold is now that whole in betweeners riff be honest were you googled in white gold I know you were oh naughty naughty
Starting point is 00:25:17 I'm like Zodiac so we went off I gave you homework I said watch a documentary I said I'll watch it as well I didn't You didn't But I did watch the movie again Yeah
Starting point is 00:25:29 The movie is excellent I have never known you to love something so much. In all the years I've known you, you've proved to be nothing but a very dark, cynical, twisted, unhappy man. But your love for the Zodiac film
Starting point is 00:25:45 is... I loved this so much to quit my job. I was like... He has quit his job for... He says he's finally going to solve it after all these years. He's gone to the local library. But you know what? You know the Zodiac Code? You're dyslexic, so don't all letters just look
Starting point is 00:26:01 like that to you? Like, you know, Oh, really, like, eat a blighting bucket. And what do you mean? I've cracked the code. I figured out what the dogs called and the damn busters. That's the only word I knew. Two letters repeating. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:26:24 That's very deep lore there. But anyway, so the Zoni Act film. Okay, the film, first of all, okay. Yeah. Now, David Fincher. is so interesting me, because he's had such a weird career where they started off doing a kind of, like, crowd
Starting point is 00:26:38 pleasing kind of trillers, you know, but also a little sheen of like, you know, like seven and Fight Club and all that like stuff that lads like me would like full testosterone but also critics to be like, oh well actually it's a commentary on masculinity. Yeah, yeah. I actually always, I
Starting point is 00:26:54 never, I hate that about how Fight Club is misinterpreted. It's clearly just about both dudes, kicking this shit out of each other and how that's awesome. Yeah. But then a bunch of fucking nerds come in and like, oh, that's actually deconstructing masculinity and
Starting point is 00:27:10 a commentary on capitalism. No, it's not douche. It's about buff dudes, just beating up each other, you know, and even one of your friends is a fat cunt with titties, and you smack his titties around, and it's a good laugh. And then, you know, you go to
Starting point is 00:27:26 some cancer groups to cheer yourself up, you know? It seems like American Psychos. It's just about being cool. that's it yes yes but um but then he went on I'm gonna look up
Starting point is 00:27:37 about his filmography because he had like he was a music video guy at first yeah and then he did alien tree which he hated he had no control
Starting point is 00:27:44 so then after that is seven right yeah seven seven really like that you know that captures everyone everyone's like holy shit who is this guy
Starting point is 00:27:53 and seven's like one that like it still holds up today it's very much it's crazy that it's like 90 something 95 yeah it does not feel like that almost 30 years
Starting point is 00:28:02 it looks so good. Even visually and all that, it looks so good, so well made. It still, and it still retains a kind of freshness and a kind of like, holy, like, you know, it's gripping and there's a darkness and an edginess that's still, you know. He did the game, which is terrible. Yeah. Like, it's genuinely. The game's bad.
Starting point is 00:28:21 I hate anyone who tries to defend the game. Yeah. Well, actually, no. He did panic room, which I haven't seen in a long, long time. I think that was pretty standard, like, not terrible, not great. Yeah, yeah, just pretty like, middle of the road. No one's like, there's definitely one country. Yeah, my favorite Fincher film, a panic room.
Starting point is 00:28:40 Dwighty Oakum, a revelation. Then he took like five years off and did Zodiac. Yeah. Now, Zodiac is so good. But then here's the thing, okay, did Zodiac. Then he was the curious case of Benjamin Button. Yeah. And that was him really going for the Oscar.
Starting point is 00:28:56 Did he get the Oscar? No, no, no one really liked that film. I've never seen it. Well, it's like, the only kind of interesting about his vaccination. they went to so much trouble with the CGI to make like a baby Brad Pitt, you know? Yeah. And then an old man Brad Pitt, that's it.
Starting point is 00:29:11 Then he did a social network. Okay, that's great. Which is huge successful. And you know, it's weird. So he's kind of like decided I'm just going to do like books and adaptations of things that you see in like the airport. Yeah. So a girl with dragon tattoo. That was great. I actually never seen it. No.
Starting point is 00:29:29 Never seen it. I should. I read the book. They did Gone Girl. which is that's trashy you know it's well done trash but yeah it felt yeah but I think that's kind of he was probably it was probably coming churry in that wouldn't it? I mean it's based on a trashy novel
Starting point is 00:29:45 like it's like it's like that's the point of it he didn't mank which I you may be the only person who's ever seen it in history yeah and I didn't like it I don't know anyone who's seen I didn't like Mank and I actually listen to Michael and me talk about it and when they talk about it was like
Starting point is 00:30:01 oh wow it's it's even worse than they were just going into it and talking about like the actual historical kind of like um facts or should i say not facts about the truths and untruths and all that like it's pretty shit yeah yeah yeah and uh it's it's not very accurate and even like so like uh mank okay is played by gary oldman yes in real life during his time the mankowitz character was about 28 or something whereas oldman is what in the 60s yeah so like yeah this little things like that like that really changes the whole vibe completely yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:30:34 then he did the killer which I like the killer but again the killers is based on like kind of a like a slick kind of graphic novel which he did his own thing with it but it's not really like it's not aiming for much yeah so he is strictly a director
Starting point is 00:30:49 not a writer at all he doesn't he does not write he's no he said before he's no real interest in screenplays or all that he just likes to get like you know he likes to get the script and then take it part and do his own thing with it, but he's not too interest in, like, the origins. Yeah, clearly very mechanical, and then that kind of lends itself to why he does so many takes.
Starting point is 00:31:12 He's renowned for how many takes he does. Yeah. I think a writer-director, if you write it and then you're directing it, even though they are your words, I think after having heard it so many times in succession, you would probably, is like, okay, that's enough. You've either got it or you don't. Oh, actually, I tell a lie. He, I think he co-wrote Zodiac. Oh, well, I'm a fucking retard then.
Starting point is 00:31:35 He had, like, a big part of it, yeah. Well, again, it's from a book, like, it's adapted from... Yeah, so you're right here. He adapted, well... I was trying to make a point there, Brian. Now you... I was trying to be a buffing now you made me look like a bloody nunch.
Starting point is 00:31:49 Well, the point is, he's going for... After Mankees, I'm just going to make money now. Yeah. You know his next project? No. Squid Game. Really? He's doing Squid Game USA.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Wow. Yeah. That is... That is just the cash grab, isn't it? Now, is he doing a TV show or a movie? A TV show, but he's directing it. Man, why would he not bring back Mind Hunter? Everyone wants it.
Starting point is 00:32:13 I don't know. Let's be honest, okay. I think more people around the world are into Squid Game than Mind Hunter. I'm sorry, okay, but I think that's just how it. I don't know. I think that's just how it is, all right? Okay, if you say so. Look, I don't, I know.
Starting point is 00:32:27 But, like, I'm trying to be like... Oh, Koreans are cooler than guys. who have sex with their mother's corpse. I didn't get that memo. So they don't like me? Like, I'm sorry, what would be the more commercial thing to do than Squid Game?
Starting point is 00:32:44 Like, he did like a Bridgerton movie or like... Or like Euphoria, the movie or something like? Yeah, or Dairy Girls. David Finch was Dairy Girl. Man, you know Americans that love dairy girls. It's so crazy. I'd be like, just mention stuff like, is that your dairy, is it?
Starting point is 00:33:00 And like, yeah, oh, we need to go there, Derry Girls. How do they, I mean, how do they understand what's being said? I don't think they do. Oh. I think it's like, it's like when we watch a Japanese movie, or it's like, yeah. And we're just kind of like, understand a little bit of it. Do they do the voices as well? We watched, I mean, I said that before, haven't I?
Starting point is 00:33:21 What? Me and two lads watched Train de Bousson and there was no subtitles on it. You never told me this. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So we were watching it. And then we got about 20 minutes in. We're like, oh, there's meant to be subtitles and there aren't any.
Starting point is 00:33:34 But we just kept watching it. I just started doing the voice. It's like, oh, me, a bigger businessman. Oh, no, he's a zombie, wrong. And I didn't know the two lads that well. It was a great bonding experience. And they're dear friends to this day. So, you know, racism.
Starting point is 00:33:51 I mean, Matt Walsh is doing it. He knows that racism brings you together. You're planning a trip to Japan. Well, I mean, Train to Busan. I'm having an old friend for Dina. Trade the Bustan, I imagine, you only need to, like, follow it too much. It's not you're watching, like, high and low or something like that. You're doing the high and low remake?
Starting point is 00:34:12 I don't even know what high and low is. Oh, high and low is like a well-known kind of Japanese film. I think it's Currasawa. Okay. But Spike Lee's doing it and it's going to be Ice Spice and Denzel. Wow. Are you serious? I'm serious, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:25 That's insane. Which I don't think... Did you not learn his lesson from old boys? nobody wants it's like yeah the Japanese nice spice yeah and Denzel she's never acted in anything ever she is yeah she loves Kurosawa but anyway back to Zodiac
Starting point is 00:34:41 so Zodiac the film okay is great I love many parts of it I like how kind of slow it is you kind of like I like how it's like real life you know you fall these this case sorry over long period time people kind of drift in and out
Starting point is 00:34:57 you know like Mark Ruffalo's partner, just leaves, you know, it's very real. And, like, you know, some people, like... He eventually leaves as well, kind of, you know. Yeah, and some people just end up on a boat. Let's talk about different characters. To break it down, okay, first of all, Jillyn Hall, the main star.
Starting point is 00:35:12 Why do you get Jillyn Hall in the film? Robert Grey Smith. I think he's great in it. You know what? I was just thinking about this earlier. I've heard people say that they don't rate Gillen Hall as an actor or they think he's shied. I don't know where they get that from.
Starting point is 00:35:24 That's crazy. I agree. That's ridiculous. The one scene in particular, like the basement, scene, which is so fucking good. He is amazing in that scene. He's a good fucking actor. I don't know where these people are getting this from.
Starting point is 00:35:36 And I think the fact that he's been kind of semi-tortured during the production where he's doing like every take 40 times. I think that helps with, I imagine that it's probably intentional from Fincher. Like it's about a guy going on a rabbit hole, he's kind of losing it. For a year, for decades.
Starting point is 00:35:51 Yeah, yeah. He loses two marriages over it. Yeah, exactly. Like Robert Graysmith has credit, he says both my marriage has failed and it's because I was so obsessed with the Zodiac case. Now, apparently some people in the Zodiac community, which is a community I'd love to be part of someday. Okay.
Starting point is 00:36:06 They discredit Graysmith. Really? They say Gray Smith's a bit of an ambulance chaser. And you know, this stuff where he's getting calls and stuff from the house? Yeah. They're saying that's lies. Really? That's hilarious.
Starting point is 00:36:16 They're saying he's kind of like bigs himself up a little bit. Okay. And even I think like his relationship with Paul Avery and stuff, they kind of like, uh... You know, because I did watch the, see, the reason we're talking about the Zodiac, because the documentary just, came out and he is in it and he does come off
Starting point is 00:36:32 like in the movie Gyllenhaal plays him very kind of humble and like you know oh yes hello I'm a cartoonist he seemed to be in real life and I was just oh maybe he's just a bit older now and he's got a bit of clout or whatever
Starting point is 00:36:46 he came off as kind of obnoxious in the documentary well I imagine it's kind of up his own head I imagine a little bit like if you're like a big Star Trek and you think you know everything about Star Trek yeah it's kind of like that was like really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:00 You think Patrick Stewart was the bet? It's obviously Cisco. You know, like, all that kind of stuff. Right. Like, you can kind of get lost in your own little world. You're a king of your little world of Zodiac. Yeah. And also, you have to be a bit good at the hustle, I suppose, like, no, I wrote to the
Starting point is 00:37:15 Finn of Zodiac book, you know? Yeah. You have to go and sell it. You're selling yourself. That's like your brand in the way, you know? And like, but like he did investigate it quite a lot. You know, he put in the work as well. You put in the work, you know.
Starting point is 00:37:27 I mean, he knows his fucking shit. shit you know he literally he was going to the house and walking between the two houses and all that i imagine you know what it is it's a clashing of generations because the kind of the internet sleuths who like because they're still and they do talk about this in the documentary there are like some legit you know people that have done good legwork on the case and have uncovered things many years after the fact so i imagine robert gracemith is coming in hey i'm the sheriff of this town i'm the biggest dick in the land i wrote the definitive book and you're all a bunch of basement dwelling dweaves
Starting point is 00:38:01 who live with your mom whereas I got pussy at least four times so suck my beak please so Jillyn Hall's great in the film very believable, very good doing the whole kind of boy scout kind of stick
Starting point is 00:38:16 you know slowly kind of like you go in the rabbit hole end up in the basement that's I think the first time for him to realize like oh this is like serious this is real you know I'm putting myself in danger what I think about Robert Down Jr great yeah uh this is pretty good at playing an addict isn't he yes an alcoholic and a cocaine addict and
Starting point is 00:38:35 i was even watching that or like think of that while i was watching it's like is that triggering for like like somebody who is so yeah hopelessly addicted to drugs and alcohol to completely portray that again with such um you know even just like believability obviously you're drinking probably water it's like colored something when you're drinking like you know movie rum or yes but even just like the act of doing that and like you're swaying around you're in a big just being
Starting point is 00:39:00 the paraphernalia is all around you but I suppose it's the same as like filming a sex scene it's not actually sexy because there's cast and crew and likes
Starting point is 00:39:11 but we're like doing it with a sex addict that's the different filming a sex scene with Jim Norton I don't want to hear about your ONA fan fiction Brian
Starting point is 00:39:20 all right and then Opie bends over it ooh I'm being a bad little boy so yeah he kind of So he's Paul Avery in the film. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:30 And he's like the crime journalist for the newspaper. It's kind of like the hot shot journalist, the celebrity journalist. Yeah, yeah. He holds the gossip, all the tips and all the... And Robert Bray Smith's a nerd. Yeah. He goes to the library. And then, like, he kind of, um, he gets involved in the case as well.
Starting point is 00:39:49 And then, oh, uh, so then, like, um, what's the name of Mark Russell's character? He plays basically the inspiration for Dirty Harried. It's Tashon... Dave Toski. Tosky, that's it, yeah, yeah, Toskey. But then, does he get accused at one stage of faking letters? Yes, yes, so, they kind of skip over it in the movie. In the movie, they kind of go, like, ah, we think you did it, and that's it.
Starting point is 00:40:12 You know, it kind of goes pretty fast over that part. I think he did do something where, like, he wrote a letter for a magazine just, like, as a goof kind of thing. And then from that, somebody in Eternal Affairs accused him of writing. the newest zodiac letter the what they came years later in the movie I kind of like wanted to rewind of a second like well what happened there you know because then his wife is like don't call here again
Starting point is 00:40:38 Robert Grace May yeah even though you are the coolest sexiest man I've ever met Rob did she really say that she really did yeah yeah she really did you want to suck my dick I couldn't I unbelievable right in front of her husband couldn't believe it myself didn't put that in dirty Harry did it yeah and Bullitt he was the inspiration for bullet.
Starting point is 00:40:58 Yeah, he was a pretty big deal. It was a little gay bowtie. Yeah, the boat. Long before Tucker Colson were the Muslim Brotherhood, Dave Toski was rocking the bowtow. Imagine those three, the Muslim Brotherhood,
Starting point is 00:41:11 Dave's a dinner party I'd like to go to. It's all about them kind of separately investigating their investigation kind of go together a little bit. In the conventional movie, it would end up,
Starting point is 00:41:23 let's say if this is an actual fictional movie, and if they treat those guys all in the basement, together firing bullets into Arthur Lee Allen who teamed up with the creepy guy it was all a ruse he pulls off a mask
Starting point is 00:41:37 and it's Chloe Savanee Aha! Yes You like puzzles do you? Well you couldn't figure out the most intriguing puzzle of all the mind of a woman What a bitch she was Oh pay attention to me and my children
Starting point is 00:41:53 Could you look after the kids Fuck off love of going to down a basement with some freak that scene by the way let's just jump to it the basement scene is so fucking good it's so well done the kind of sounds of like the upstairs it's a little
Starting point is 00:42:09 bit like do I hear something is it actually there and then like um jillen hall's acting and all that and the guy is so good Charles Fleischer was that his name yeah the voice of Roger Rabbit from who framed Roger Abbott oh it's some good work there thank you thank you took me years much like Robert Crespy
Starting point is 00:42:25 he's like who wrote but yeah he's it's funny I just thinking of the scene this is very stupid it's not going to be funny around you we're just thinking that the guy who Zodiac probably voiced Roger Rabbit as well
Starting point is 00:42:39 I voice Roger Rabbit as well Mr. Grey Smith it was me blah blah blah yeah but he's like a comedian and a voice actor like he doesn't do dramatic roles
Starting point is 00:42:53 and he's so good in that little scene I drew it Robert, Chris. And what's his name? Something Oates, Carol. I think the guy who plays Art Rley Allen. He's so good in that little scene. Yeah. John, John Carroll.
Starting point is 00:43:07 Oates. Something like that. And he plays Arthur Lee Allen. He's so good at like, so they go into the, I love this part, where they go into the factory where Art Rley Allen works, all right? And he's like a suspect. They think he might be the Zodiac killer. Like he's the number one suspect.
Starting point is 00:43:21 And this is a big story everyone knows about. And they go to the foreman, like, we want to talk to one of your guys. You know, we think you might be investigating. might be involved in the Zodiac killing and the four man's like all right four man's like
Starting point is 00:43:30 yeah he's a Pito maybe a killer as well he shows up on time it's hard to find a good man that isn't a Puerto Rican you know
Starting point is 00:43:39 yeah he's convicted child molester yeah he was a former teacher got convicted of being a chomo and they boot you out of school
Starting point is 00:43:47 for that so now you had to work in a factory with Mexico for just thinking outside the box well getting in the box
Starting point is 00:43:54 he loved a dangerous game yes and he had like a watch that was a zodiac and there's so much shit in it where like you kind go like it's very satisfying a way to be like what's a zodiac calendar was it the alphabet and the watch and the app the advertisement for the watch has a sign on it and all that like all of this evidence is circumstantial but when you have so many circumstantial things all lining up spelling christmas with two essays yes so i'll just jump to the documentary real quick yeah i'd love to hear The documentary is interviewing
Starting point is 00:44:28 these guys who were little kids during the time of the Zodiac killings and Arthur Lee Allen like so their dad so there's like three or four siblings on camera I think there was like
Starting point is 00:44:44 seven or eight kids in total but there's four that appear on cameras adults in the documentary and their dad got sent to jail for child molestation actually went to the same jail Arthur Lee Allen went to. So wait, their dad got
Starting point is 00:45:00 arrest being pedophile. Yeah, for sexually abused in one of the daughters. And then Arthur Lee Allen came along, like, don't worry kids. And started going out with the mom and started taking the kids on day trips and then eventually I think he did sexually assault the daughter. But there
Starting point is 00:45:16 are different things that the kid like these guys tell us about Arthur Lee Allen that again very much point to him. being the zodiac so for example him like there was a thing they went in a day trip out in the car it's a very different time where you could just be a random guy who shows up it's like hey yeah i know you've only met me for three months but could i take your kids for a trip for a few days yeah she was just like yeah go for it so you know they go to a place where a murderer would
Starting point is 00:45:49 happen and say yeah mr allen he left for a while and he came back he was out of breath and there was blood on his arm and we were like what's going on mr ed's like get in the fucking car we gotta go now and we didn't think nothing of it we were just kids and another thing arthur lee allen he was a big fat guy right yeah big stocky guy he was a really good uh swimmer and diver he could like do like back flips off diving boards and shit right because he was in the navy they mentioned that yeah he's in the navy know that scene at the lake where the zodiac comes up with the big black hood and all arthur lee allen because he was a heavy set guy like he was a big fucking dude and back then they didn't
Starting point is 00:46:30 make clothes or for what you know big size people and he had to make his own wetsuits so he always had this like black fabric like all was lying around and the black fabric is very similar to what's described
Starting point is 00:46:46 as that big black hood that was worn and like those are just a couple of the main ones but there's loads of little things that just line up it just is so very clear I think that he was the guy Did they go into the big kind of stumbling block for the investigation
Starting point is 00:47:01 was the handwriting. Yeah. That was always the issue. Did it go into anything out there? Because they do make a point that you. What was the named actor who plays the handwriting expert? Philip Baker Hall. Yeah, yeah. They mentioned that he's also just a fucking alcohol as well. An alcoholic and I think he was very kind of like now, now. This is it. Yeah. I don't know
Starting point is 00:47:21 how, like, because he was ambidextrous. Like he was noted as ambidextrous. and again this is back in the 70s like maybe if you're a handwriting expert and that's what you've dedicated your life to and you've been working on all these high profile cases you've built your whole career out of it then if somebody comes along goes
Starting point is 00:47:40 yeah isn't this all kind of bullshit pseudoscience you're going to be like no no it's absolutely fact it's irrefutable and if you say something you're a class of homosexual I can tell me what you spell I don't make the rules I look at He's like, I found this handwriting of yours
Starting point is 00:47:57 says, I love sucking cock He's like, ah, look The way he dot the T's I can't swear, you gotta believe me I didn't do it You spells it suck with 2S I don't think they go into the handwriting Too much in the
Starting point is 00:48:13 But like There was a lot of correspondence, letter correspondence Between Arthur Lee Allen And the mother That came out after the mother died She had this whole, like, storage shed of loads of shit of, like, letters and videotapes from Arthur Lee Allen. And she was like, she was very adamant to the kids, don't open this until after I die. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:35 And then it just came out. It was, there was no real, like, gotcha things, but they're, like, pieces of fabric with some blood on it, a knife with some blood on it, but inconclusive DNA. So again, there's nothing in the documentary that is a stone cold, you know, irrefutable, this. is the guy, but it's just more like... And also, this is like the 70s and whatnot, like, it was way more easy to bungle shit up. Or it's like, you know, like, for example,
Starting point is 00:49:01 they found that one fingerprint and they think that was probably like maybe even a cop did there. Yeah, yeah. Like, it's way easier to make a little mistake that that throws off the whole investigation. Yes, 100%. For every, like, there's so many cases I've read about in the past or like that,
Starting point is 00:49:14 where they're so easy to catch. Like this catch, the, the guy's going with a bicycle, he's got a woman's severed head, is, you know, in the back, and he drops it on the ground. He's like, my head, please. And the cops like, hey, wait right there. You dropped your lettuce, buddy.
Starting point is 00:49:31 Come on. Yeah, yeah, that's all dirty now. You gotta take that home to the kiddies. Well, thank you, officer. You know, you have a good night now. Yeah. There's like all these cases like that were, like, if it doesn't, if the case doesn't actually fall into the cop's hand
Starting point is 00:49:44 just they don't get it, you know? Like, there's so many, yeah. There's a lot of dumb luck involved as well. Yeah. Because you know, like, because of Hannibal Lecter and all that, People think, like, serial killers are like these kind of masterminds. Like, a lot of them are more like mine hunter where they can't really wash themselves properly and they masturbate too much. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:59 Is that a, oh, my God. Oh, no. Well, you know what? I've been thinking about this. I'll tell you. I say this about a serial killer, you know, they were active. They were out of the house and they were doing stuff. You know, I'm just like, when I'm, what do they call it, bed rotting?
Starting point is 00:50:21 when you're just lying in bed doom scrolling for hours on end it's like I mean they were out there chopping off women's heads and having sex with the heads they weren't on Reddit no they weren't on the soprano subreddit giggling like a schoolgirl
Starting point is 00:50:37 when someone uses dialogue in context of the original posts I get it that's so good oh I've wasted my life I'm a fucking loser I am a worthless piece of shit.
Starting point is 00:50:52 I mean, I could never just meet a woman who was six kids and be like, hey, darling, let me take your kiddies on a day trip. She'd be like, oh, no, you read it, freak. Didn't pass the vibe check. You love to artly all charm. Too many red flags.
Starting point is 00:51:10 Yeah. Turning well as about the movie, because the movie's very long. There's some very nice little touches to as well, you know, like, you know, when we watch that tower being built and stuff, or that kind of the montage with no picture is very cool
Starting point is 00:51:23 It's just all audio like radio broadcasts I love to see it's in the cinema You probably good No No A guy like me Yeah
Starting point is 00:51:32 You think they'd let your type Into the cinema I'll keep We heard you're unemployed We don't let people like you in here Get a job You hippie Don't have like unemployment passes and stuff
Starting point is 00:51:43 What I know some places They have like You know special discounts For the unemployed No they don't They do What places
Starting point is 00:51:50 Horroises? Brothels? Soup kitchens. Crack dance? It's like get this crack extra cheap, right? On a mate's rate. You better get on my body, motherfucker.
Starting point is 00:52:05 You ain't got no money. You better put their mouth to work, girl. I beg your part. This is a strange soup kitchen. Yeah, so they've got like discounts here at certain cinemas and stuff. Wow, I've never. not in Ireland
Starting point is 00:52:21 Oh right Okay that makes sense It's like Canada stuff Yeah well of course in Canada Yeah Unemployment discount card I think in Canada They let you into a kids movie for free
Starting point is 00:52:32 If you bring the child you're grooming Like oh yes One Pito pass please Oh sorry I was going to website there about Unappliament Pass And I tried to I just press register for the crack
Starting point is 00:52:46 And it says connection not not safe. Yeah. What's that mean? It means get off that website right now. I never do that. No, you got
Starting point is 00:52:56 where's your adventurous spirit? You're got to manifest destiny. Yeah, yeah. The wild frontier. But yeah, Zodiac, great film. Great, great film. I loved it a lot. I will watch documentary.
Starting point is 00:53:09 I mean, it's not really, it's three episodes, which it didn't need to be. Could have been 90 minutes, but whatever. You know, there's some interesting anecdotes. I'm not angry. I'm not angry
Starting point is 00:53:20 I'm totally fine What time is there 53 minutes So you've got some time to kill there It's perfect I'm going to stretch a bit I watched Woman of the Hour as well
Starting point is 00:53:32 Oh speaking to killers Yes 70s killers Would you recommend that I would actually I was pleasantly surprised No No it didn't blow my cock off But it's
Starting point is 00:53:41 It's solid It's you know entertaining It's well done It's a directorial debut From Anna Kendrick who also stars in it as well and forgive my ignorance from it
Starting point is 00:53:52 now. Yes. Did they not... I never do but okay. Did they make a movie about this guy before? I think they might have done like a TV movie. Yeah, like a TV movie. Like a HBO thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And remind me of case again this guy. He was a cool guy, wasn't he? Really cool. Like the coolest guy, I mean
Starting point is 00:54:08 I thought I knew all the cool serial killers, but this guy this guy blew my cock off. His name was Rodney Akala Akalaka Shamalamaddingda Akalaka or something like that Rodney Mexican Rodney King
Starting point is 00:54:23 Yeah But so he was It's weird So he's called the dating show Or the dating game killer Yeah Because he appeared on the dating game Which was a 70s show
Starting point is 00:54:37 Like blind date I know about this because Opin Anthony talked about him once Yeah I think it was a big news story When it happened But like He had already committed
Starting point is 00:54:47 several rates and murders by the time he is one of the contestants. So the whole thing is like it's blind date. There's a partition there's three guys on one side and then the girl comes out and she's asking questions. Bachelor number one.
Starting point is 00:55:02 If you wanted to rape and kill me how would you do it? This is a show format that I think our generation would already know through SNL sketches. It's a format for a sketch really. But I'm right at it. I didn't do some mall rats as well, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:55:18 They did. Yes, yes. So it'd be stuff like, you know, if I was an ice cream, what would you do to me? I'd put you on my cock and then stick it up your mother's age. No, it's something more charming
Starting point is 00:55:33 to that, James, you know? I'd unwrap you and... You'd unwrap ice cream. Yeah. I'd break you in half. It was like if I was a cherry Sunday it was like oh
Starting point is 00:55:48 I'd lick you up and down and save the cherries for letters something like that you know I do yeah well it's obviously going to sound gross what I say it you know weird time is it and they kept saying whoopi you know yes when you're making whoopee
Starting point is 00:56:04 do you do it when consensually maybe a birthday sweetheart I saved a cherry for later but um Tony Hale from uh Tobias from Arrested Development. He is the... Killer. No, he's the host.
Starting point is 00:56:20 Okay. He's the TV show host, but he's a real asshole. I can't say. But Anna Kendrick, so it's based on real thing. We're going to Google this while you're talking for a second. So Anna Kendrick's like a struggling actress. She gets, you know, she asked to be, appear on this talk show. And this is kind of interspersing her story as a struggling actors
Starting point is 00:56:40 with him committing multiple murders. Because the thing about him is he spawned, like, he went on a rampage like he was it took over a decade for him to get caught and he was like in LA then New York then like San Francisco he bumped around a good bit and again
Starting point is 00:56:57 much like the Zodiac because of incompetence and carelessness and people not giving his shit like he was arrested and let go a few times he was able to get away with it for so long and like the fact just how brazen he was that like he had already
Starting point is 00:57:13 been arrested and released and then he appears on the dating game and then even after that it still takes a while but yeah he committed he's like charged for eight but they estimate that he had like way more some have estimated as high as like a hundred victims I just saw on Wikipedia
Starting point is 00:57:30 103 yeah like so crazy like but so again this movie is all about it's detailing it's obviously the real life story but at their the main point of it is how like the how easy it is for a woman to feel unsafe,
Starting point is 00:57:47 being alone with a man that you don't know, you know, that's straight, like, women just can't be alone at night, you know. Apart from me, I'll protect you. Okay, yes. I'm being your Tony Hale. Yeah. There's a lot of creeps out there. Let's go home watch Zodiac.
Starting point is 00:58:10 I'll protect you, my queen. I'll watch in betweeners. boss wanker I can get it to the movies for free because I'm unemployed and disabled so they give me two tickets for free every Wednesday
Starting point is 00:58:28 only the matinee shows mind you that's a oh watch that it's on Netflix it's on Netflix it's 90 minutes it's done well it's very like kind of stripped back
Starting point is 00:58:42 kind of bare bones no big frills It's kind of, for a directorial debut, it was good. What movies should be, shouldn't it? Yeah, I agree. Women getting scared. Yeah, yeah. And the big men feeling strong.
Starting point is 00:58:55 And the guy, he's very good at playing like creepy weirdo. I'll watch anything with Tony Hale in it. Yeah, yeah, he's very good. He wears that or yoga hosers? I'll watch anything with Tony. I've never seen yoga hosers. My man, Tony Hale. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:59:08 People have said that, so you know the way Haley Joel, what's her name Haley Haley Smith Oh Kevin Smith's daughter I've heard Some people say
Starting point is 00:59:18 That like He shoots her In a way That makes you concerned Really Yeah Like yoga Yeah like yoga
Starting point is 00:59:24 Right Oh And the camera would be lingering on His daughter More than Johnny Depp's daughter Oh Because nobody wants to
Starting point is 00:59:32 Johnny Depp's daughter Yeah She's from bad stock Yeah They want to see The Depp man Oh I haven't
Starting point is 00:59:39 I be honest I haven't watched The 430 movie yet I have seen some clips of it though Right I think that's good enough do you No no I'm going to watch it Don't know sorry sorry I'm going to watch it right
Starting point is 00:59:50 My point is okay Don't make me angry So you know it's about the 430 movie It's about these kids And they're going to watch a movie of 430 Yeah Alright I mean and they say he's running out of ideas
Starting point is 01:00:02 And he shot it in his own cinema Okay He bought a little cinema and he shot the movie there right Right But the clip I saw okay is they do fake trailers before the movie and they look very fake
Starting point is 01:00:18 I will say now it looks it's meant to be set in like a refreshing idea that people did in 2007 yeah well you know it's set in the 80s all right but all the trailers they're looking at
Starting point is 01:00:29 are like grind house trailer or like trailers like the star like a debt wish yeah yeah there's all that stuff so it's all like his daughter playing like a sexy nun uh huh it's like the nun with a gun the girl with big tits
Starting point is 01:00:43 and is this her with a good nothing covering her big teeth but it's all like very like standing from the green screen it's just not very believable it looks very low budget from a clips I've seen yes well you know the way they shot it
Starting point is 01:00:56 they're able to shoot it during the writer strike during the actor strike because it was so cheap didn't even count to the movie I'm not even joking what yeah it was just so cheap to like it go for it
Starting point is 01:01:08 it's basic so what are they So... It's basically a YouTube sketch. He can't write any of it off as like a tax like business expense or anything?
Starting point is 01:01:19 How does it work? I don't know but during a writer's strike they were like you can shoot it like no one cares about you Yeah Like we're gonna stop making
Starting point is 01:01:25 Deadpool Wolverine Yeah Yeah but he Kevin Smith I used to Will Smith Kevin Smith I mean you never know nowadays it could be
Starting point is 01:01:34 Kevin Smith is like The Smiths The Smith brothers What? You're my brother Yeah, yeah, woo-woo, whoa, what, whoa, whoa, that'd be a funny comedy. Yeah, what a... See, yeah, new comedy coming out now.
Starting point is 01:01:46 Brothers. No. Oh, it's very funny. It's Peter Dinklage and Josh Brolin play brothers. They play brothers? Yeah, it's by one of the Farleys. Oh. And...
Starting point is 01:01:56 The Oscar winning one? No. I'll have to take your word for it. Probably put their dicks in, like, a finger trap. I guess I could kind of see Josh Brolin and Peter Dinklage could be like a mini-me version maybe. Yeah, something fun to give them a mustache each. Yeah, because they both got like beards and similar hair
Starting point is 01:02:16 and probably similar dick sizes. You know what, I said that in a comedic way. Like, it was like, ha ha, what a stupid movie. I've already won myself over. It makes perfect sense. Better than any fucking gay Anna Kendrick shit you're watching. It was a powerful exploration of violence against women, Brian. I felt safe and empowered for once.
Starting point is 01:02:36 I've got the eye of the tiger. yeah now it's good to see a nice and scared oh weren't it she got her at a big gob on her though she big fucking gnats
Starting point is 01:02:49 is sticking out fucking go to the dentist love yeah I haven't watched anything else that's all I have now I wanted the only I wanted to watch
Starting point is 01:02:59 actually I thought it might be cool not cool but I was like I might go back and watch the old mumblecore movies yeah
Starting point is 01:03:05 because you know people love Greta Gerwig and all there I've never seen any those you know Francis Ha or like early you know the squid in the whale or anything I've never seen any of those Oh that's great squid in the whale
Starting point is 01:03:15 Like early Duplas brother stuff There's a few that kind of went under the radar That I had a real fondness for I had a real Sawspot for mumblecore movies The only mumblecore film I've ever seen is Cyrus Cyrus is great I love Cyrus yeah yeah
Starting point is 01:03:29 There's one called cold weather It's about like these two like factory workers That get obsessed with Sherlock Holmes books And then one of their friends goes missing, so it's like a real life, oh, where'd you go? We've got to find her. It's just getting very kind of like, there's something
Starting point is 01:03:45 very nice about the understated, you know, sad, depressing lives of white, middle-aged men. Something I can identify with. Just out of college and don't know where in the Yeah. Yeah. I just got out of college 17 years ago.
Starting point is 01:04:02 That was the plot of Greenberg. What am I going to do with my life? That was the flaw of Greenberg, I think. Ben's dinner's like, I just got out of college. Last year. It's like 43. I don't know what to do with myself. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:14 Yeah, so it's a spot. So I mentioned mumblecore a while ago. Who? Who are you talking about mumblecore with? A guy of my friend Michael. Yeah. He wouldn't know, all right, yeah. But the point is, okay.
Starting point is 01:04:28 That's his favorite mumblecore film. Huh? That's better to mind, is it? Don't tell me, baghead. I'm the puffy chair. Oh, my goodness. Wow. Oh, quite a connoisseur.
Starting point is 01:04:43 But mumbochore is one of those films like, yeah, I know what mumbocore is. I haven't seen any of them. Even like Cyrus, don't it really counts because that's like fucking Jonah Hill and John C-Roy. I want to see like a proper mumblecore one. You don't know any of them. That's a shot for like, you know, two euro.
Starting point is 01:04:56 And half of them are dead. Or pedophiles. Yeah. Oh, the petos are thriving. Mark Duplast, look at him. The biggest pedo go. There's no real mumbocore films anymore. No.
Starting point is 01:05:08 We could bring it back. like Irish mumblecore Yeah That's kind of like What our lives are though Isn't it? No I think we could do A good mumblecore film
Starting point is 01:05:16 Okay About about the farm Farm life Yeah Yeah I think there's a very interesting film to be made Of like
Starting point is 01:05:24 Old Irish traditional farm life meeting contemporary post Celtic tiger 21st century depression But down like Let's shoot a porno on the film Yes
Starting point is 01:05:35 On the farm Right And I'm kind of like The Bert Reynolds type In a way You're a roller girl. Yeah, I'm good with that. I would have said Phillips Seymour Hoffman,
Starting point is 01:05:43 but I'll play both roles. I could do it. A contemporary remake of Boogie Nights. You're doing that in that Saturday Night Live movie. Nicholas Braun is playing Jim Henson and Andy Kaufman. Oh, really? Yeah, did you know that? No.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Is this meant to be Andy Kaufman playing? No. Oh, no. They had somebody, they had Benny Safty as Andy Kaufman. Yeah. Nicholas Braun was cast as Jim Henson and then Benny Saffty had to drop out so the director Jason Reitman
Starting point is 01:06:16 basically said to Nicholas Braun do want to play Andy Kaufman he's like oh yeah instead of Jim Henson goes no you can just do both well that's just show us how much they care about the film then yeah you want to do fucking you want to play Dan Aykroy as well yeah yeah actually
Starting point is 01:06:32 we need somebody to be Richard Pryor yeah yeah come on Come on, Cousin Greg. Yeah, I really don't want to watch that film, that Saturday Night Live film. I'll watch it when it's on streaming. So you're not coming to my Saturday Night Live movie streaming party.
Starting point is 01:06:51 You're going to dress up as the car. It's the premiere. I'm going as Gilda Radner. About three weeks before she died. I'm going as a samurai. Cheese bagger, would you like a cheese bagger? Oh, I guess this was funny back then, I suppose. yeah yeah um none of it was ever any good was it no they were just on cocaine yeah that's it
Starting point is 01:07:15 cocaine um but yeah i'm not really much interested in that i was going to make another point there but i can't remember i think it's getting late now that's a very mumbled core yeah way to end the show sorry i'm just tired there a second i had a big yogurt and um not big i had a very small yogurt I had a child-sized yogurt And now I'm in a food coma Yeah It was like Christmas Day I couldn't possibly have another bite
Starting point is 01:07:48 Yeah Who cares I'm gonna make a good point there To tighten the whole show up to you And I ruined it as I am one to do I just came in a like Well he's probably been a black guy Who shall be going on I won't one
Starting point is 01:08:04 in the fam blood walk one with the mandem ting because that's what I do that's what I contribute to the show You excel That's all I am Just a fat retard doing racist voices And saying the occasional slur
Starting point is 01:08:20 And that's why I don't get booked For any comedy gigs Or have many friends Oh no don't worry When you go to see SNL Saturday night That'll change everything Yeah I might even go with you
Starting point is 01:08:32 You know We can go as like You know those you know like when Steve Martin why do you do those two groovy guys too wild and crazy guys well look if you're not going to fucking commit to it Brian if you're not actually going to
Starting point is 01:08:44 learn the fucking script beforehand then why are we even going? I'm not very going you know those two unusual guys those two normal everyday guys who talk in a proper way hello there sir we are two normal everyday gentlemen and we'd like to see
Starting point is 01:09:01 a movie what movie we haven't decided. You're doing like too a while. It's like, look it's the Blues Brothers. It's Coenheads. Oh, you don't want to watch actually. You might watch Blue's Brothers 2000.
Starting point is 01:09:14 You watch that? I have seen that when I was a kid. Because I remember thinking, wow, there's a kid in that movie. He must be the coolest, happiest kid. 100%. I bet John Goodman sat on him and they just buried him out the back
Starting point is 01:09:30 and nobody asked any questions. Nobody, yeah. They just flushed them down the toilets of the disabled Jags at the movie premiere and nobody is like ah that was just John Belushi's retarded nephew he's gone goodbye anyway uh I think that's the end of show
Starting point is 01:09:47 blues brother is 2000 well we'll have a full report in that next week like Zodiac yeah bye

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