Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 29 : Brian and James get Stoned

Episode Date: September 18, 2019

Brian and James smoke some fat doobies and talk about racism....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 and we're off yeah we're off here we are we're back we're back back in your bedroom and in my bedroom yeah yeah what a welcome change it's nice yeah I made a nice little effort for you did you yeah this is cleaned up oh wow no condom wrappers around I enjoy the subtlety of your clean because you really can't tell you know it's a new style it's like beng shui all right so we're back season two is in full swing it's going well yet yeah back on a regular schedule. That's right.
Starting point is 00:00:31 We were going to record last week but unfortunately Robert McAvey died and James was in full morning.
Starting point is 00:00:38 I was just inconsolable there you know Yeah, yeah. James in like a black wedding dress by which he means it was produced
Starting point is 00:00:50 It was made by Fubu as a Fubu wedding dress was very racist of you Brian, how dare you? I'm impressed that you need you. Hey man, I'm pretty him
Starting point is 00:00:58 Yeah, you're free No, you support black businesses. That's right, exactly. Yeah, yeah. It was funny, Robert Mugabe died and then, like, directly after that. And the kind of websites died on
Starting point is 00:01:12 their kind of more nerderier websites. So then the guy did the voice of Lord Zed from the Power Rangers died. Oh. And equal reaction. And they were both equally important in their specific fields, you know, I mean. Well, like, kind of.
Starting point is 00:01:29 I suppose, because, like, they were both kind of guys who came from nothing. Yeah. Like, and then it became evil. Evil. Evil emperors. Well, no, no, no. It's a classic story, really, where they're, like, the Power Rangers, like, the whites. Okay.
Starting point is 00:01:44 And, like, they were oppressive to him. Yes. And then the classic story is, like, you fight to defeat your enemies, but you realize you've become your own enemy. Yeah, where, like, he was, he was, didn't want their violent. dictatorship. And then he killed the honkies and then or Power Rangers, he wanted to be a PC about it. And then like
Starting point is 00:02:06 you know, and then he turned evil himself. Yeah, that's tragic. You know, the Power Rangers are pretty racist actually. The very first incarnation of the Mighty Morphan Power Rangers, like the yellow Power Ranger was an Asian lady and the black Power Ranger
Starting point is 00:02:23 was this black guy and I was like, wow, they're really, you know, they didn't really think outside the box with that one just like this is obviously you're yeah yeah I don't know well I'm just saying it conditioned me from an early age I really had to break out of that I know that's slightly offensive but like it could be worse so like I think I was I was that Israeli producer I would that's why I'd say like which it was it was this was made by an Israeli man is that right yeah or he stole it from the Chinese or something something like that yeah yeah but like
Starting point is 00:02:56 it could have been worse like it like it's a black eye a gun like that would be like if they made it like a hood power range yeah and he was like doing drive-bys but the black i remember like the black guy he was just a normal yeah he was just an average guy yeah and like the Asian woman she was more like yeah they weren't like they didn't play her up as a stereotype anyway like no no yeah which is um which is kind of like good i suppose like and for that time that's kind of impressive that's true yeah yeah where it wasn't like you know the little they had like the putties Yeah, I remember those.
Starting point is 00:03:30 Now, if they made those, like... Like, I don't know, what could you do? Like, drunken Irishmen, but that's not... They made them, like, Mexican. Yeah, right, and they had, like, full, you know, and they were, like, these... Like, they're all sleepy and stuff like that, like... I'm so tired, man.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Yeah, yeah, and the putties are, like, tired. Like, Lord Zed's going angry at them. I like... Every morning, like, Lord Zed pulls up on a pickup shrunk, they all just jump in the back to go by... I need 12 guys today. Hop in. And then they slowly get in.
Starting point is 00:04:01 Like, like, I, like, um, yeah, you could have made it worse. But they didn't. No, that's true. And like, it's, that was what, 70s or 80s? No, it was the 90s. Wasn't 90s? The first power?
Starting point is 00:04:16 Yeah, there was like the 90s. Oh, Jesus. Oh, wow, it looked shit. No, yeah, cool, yeah. I think that's the case if I saw as a kid, I just assumed it looks so shit. It must be like made in the 30s or something. Like, that was the first two things you saw when the first saw film. It was, like, the train coming to whilst him.
Starting point is 00:04:34 And the jump of, like, they would drove him insane. That was the 90s. Yeah, the 90s. You could get away with so much shit. Oh, man, it was a different time. Like, compared to, I want to talk a little bit about Shane Gillis. Yes. If you don't know, he was a comedian, he was hired for S&L.
Starting point is 00:04:51 And then fired after 24 hours. Yeah, something's the crazy amount of time like that because they found some offensive tweets. I don't know. It was, like, offensive stuff that he said. on a podcast Oh yeah you're right There was a good few things
Starting point is 00:05:03 Yeah Yeah yeah Well it would talk about A second Before that So compared that now To like the 90s Yeah
Starting point is 00:05:10 Where you could Like I've been Watch a lot Of Arsenio Hall Yeah Yeah And you know He is
Starting point is 00:05:15 And it's not even Like a badness Kind of way But like you know He's joking about Slapping asses And things like Yeah
Starting point is 00:05:21 Yeah It's like kind of There's a head And it's like Like Yeah Well like It's just a little
Starting point is 00:05:26 bit more Like Not street but it's a little it's just a little bit more hit has a little more stank on it is what you're saying
Starting point is 00:05:35 it's just a little bit more hip you know where I can see like some people would get a little bit offended than more like especially back then
Starting point is 00:05:41 the whole church you know video games are evil times you know like that really famous clip of Bill Clinton like playing saxophone
Starting point is 00:05:49 on Arsenio Hall like a lot of people say that that really like you know it just made him look really good to like the younger viewers like that's how impression
Starting point is 00:05:58 people were back then like he's wearing sunglasses he's got to be cool hey man I'm just playing the saxophone it was a moment in time it was great but I was going to say Arsenio Hall saxophone it was hipter yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:06:17 it definitely was like I'll fuck will cut this out like feet gone blank there yeah all right what was your point well we were talking about how Arsenio is really it was hedonistic and almost the stuff he could get away with compared to now like yeah
Starting point is 00:06:33 like it would be like back then as well like that was the whole time of like if you listen to satanic music you kill yourself and like Colin Byn was done by Marilyn Manson that's true like done like he'd done and blamed that poor kid yeah yeah like it was such like a reactionary time and then he's on and it was also like
Starting point is 00:06:54 the start of like the groups now that people will complain about but actually I suppose in a little way of kind of done a little bit of good like you know people like campaign into like gay rights and stuff like that's all good
Starting point is 00:07:09 yeah I suppose if you think about they might have done a tiny bit but good grudgingly you'll admit that yeah you might have ruined comedy I suppose they can get married now that's great yeah no but yeah but that's the thing
Starting point is 00:07:23 like they do good stuff and that's all valid but like why are they so insistent on like taking a comedian like a comedian by their very nature are silly and stupid and not meant to be taken seriously yeah and they all act as if we're like philosophers we like i'm included in this like they're going of course you know what i mean we're all under attack here this is a war cry this is our gulf war right now let's just say we're mugabe and they're all white wink wink
Starting point is 00:07:58 which you know what I mean like why are people thinking comedy is not meant to be taken seriously it's a stupid silly thing that's just the whole point of it is to add levity
Starting point is 00:08:08 to a serious life that we're all living you know what I mean and people are like oh you said that so that's obviously what you feel and think yeah it does
Starting point is 00:08:17 it does kind of drive you crazy but like the Shane Gillis thing so like yeah that now see I meditate a lot like before like back in the day if I heard something like that would drive me crazy like I tried to be me mellow but like stuff like that
Starting point is 00:08:30 is just maddening. You can just piss you off. Yeah, yeah. I don't like it's just it's such like contradiction like hypocrisy as well because everyone says so like everyone says bad shit every now and yeah and especially 15 years ago or whenever these. And most people do it seriously. Yeah. You know
Starting point is 00:08:51 most people don't do it on their comedy podcast. Yeah, exactly. We're trying to be funny and trying to get a few goofs and laughs, you know. Most people are, like, saying it. While they're walking down the street with a tiki torch, you know, my button-up shirt. Both people are just saying it in Circlecage out loud, and everyone's looking at them. So, like, the fact they go after him and then comedians go after him as well. Yeah, that's the thing.
Starting point is 00:09:14 Comedians turning on their own. Like, that really pisses me off. And then it's so easy then to do, like, the kind of social, just vigilante justice. Virtue signalling, look at me, I'm great. yeah but when the comedians post that like say like an anti-shanky those things just go in their history and find like immediately you'll find something that they've said
Starting point is 00:09:32 that's just as bad or just as offensive like that could be that could lose their money in the job and stuff and that's what they deserve to be honest if I mean you know reap what you sow like you know see how they like it a taste of their own medicine yeah it's it's a better form of vigilante justice than you know
Starting point is 00:09:48 other things you do like like going into a pizza parlor and shooting everyone to like... Yeah, or this, I don't know, more like throwing a balloon a piss at the one, Michael's. Like, that might help you for the moment, but only, like, turn people against the cause, you know?
Starting point is 00:10:04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, don't... Wink. Don't do that. Well, yeah, man, it's crazy. Poor old Shane Gillis. He had, like... I mean, that's such a, like, huge thing to get SNL. Even though, like, SNL hasn't been good for years.
Starting point is 00:10:19 But anyway... I still like getting around again. Still an achievement. And every once in a while, the will of good, sketch but it's just a very interesting format and it's like a iconic comedy you know institution in america like so to have gotten that and then just to have gone and they lost it so quick he didn't get to like fuck arienda grande he didn't get any of those chances the lucky old pete got under just they're just under wire yeah yeah it's actually good about pete davidson is they hired him before he could turn bitter and angry and like racist which will happen to all of us
Starting point is 00:10:52 Of course, yeah. Anyone that doesn't get S&L young. It's like, it's just countdown to racism. So he got Pete back when he was young and like, you know, he could mold him. Impressionable. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:08 He could do whatever he wanted old Pete Davidson. Well, it fucking works, man, because Pete Davidson, like, he, like, maintains a certain relevance in, like, the, you know, that S&L doesn't. Like, people, because of the Ariana Grande, bangor or whatever,
Starting point is 00:11:22 That's why people got so invested in him. But now, like, he's kind of young, hip current, which is something that S&L, I think, have struggled with for a while, trying to stay irrelevant. Because they've been on the air for, like, 40 years. Well, the thing is, every now and again, they will do a sketch, I'm like,
Starting point is 00:11:39 oh, that is kind of, like, really well done. And a little racy. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, and actually will, like, discuss the things. You're like, oh, you brought up that on the NBC late night show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, like that had a few sketches, you know, might be all, like, that was sketch a while ago about drawing Mohammed,
Starting point is 00:11:56 and they might mention, like, Israel or something down now and again. Like, oh, that's a bit, like, someone, like, clever snuck that in. Yeah. Amongst all the, like, the, um, just ever gone twerking? Yeah. But here's Donald Trump twerking, and then it's Alec Baldwin just, like. It's awful.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Yeah, yeah. All that shit. Actually, the roast of Alec Baldwin, did you watch that? Uh, I watched a few clips on YouTube. Yeah. I'm not big into roast. The only, the most interesting for me is, uh, Robert Nehore did
Starting point is 00:12:21 like a Woody Allen joke. Oh, did he? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I didn't hear that. No, I really, I loved the roasts. The old roasts when it was old comedians, like Greg Giroldo and, like, Patrice, and, like, pretty much, really good comedians would do it,
Starting point is 00:12:35 but now it's like celebrities. Now it's, uh, have their material written for them and they don't even deliver it well. Well, it's actually, it's actually gone more now the way it was, you know, I think the 80s when it was like the roast of Reagan, and it would be a lot of famous people. Yeah, yeah. Because they go for more famed than last.
Starting point is 00:12:52 But now it's kind of bounced back to being like that again, where it's more like, we got Ed Norton. Yeah, that was awful. Yeah, and then Ed Norton. I like Edward Norton as an actor, but he's not like, you never, like, struck me as a comedy guy. No, and it was so sincere and nice.
Starting point is 00:13:09 You're like, this guy, do you realize what's going on? Yeah. Is this a really cool character you're doing, like, Norm? Like, are you, like, subverting the nature of roasts? Yeah, that was good. No, it's just like, oh, I like, Bruce, you're bald man. Hey, baldie, I love you, like a brother. Just, like, tears up a little bit.
Starting point is 00:13:30 No, he was like, I got to work on this project with this guy. Now, they hadn't mentioned the project. Yeah. I don't remember him mentioning what film they're working on, just they're working a film. So, like, they worked on this project. And it's not like, it was like a thing they worked on years ago. Like, hey, we did this movie together. And people were like, hey, yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:45 It's like, we did this thing you don't give a fuck about and probably shit. Yeah. And he was great in it. but he should have if he wants to like subvert the genre had no one should have gone out as his character
Starting point is 00:13:58 from America History X he brings out props he brings out like a curb and yeah everyone's like oh oh no that'd be good actually yeah if he just curbs stoned Alec Baldwin
Starting point is 00:14:11 right there and get that'd be fun trumpet like that yeah what else happened at roast a lot of our A lot of really good, I feel, jokes about Caitlin Jenner.
Starting point is 00:14:24 Yeah, that's true. I was actually surprised. Incuding from her as well. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that was, I think that was a good moment. I'm surprised that was allowed, basically. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:33 But yeah, they, you know, they made a lot of jokes, and she was, yeah. That was kind of good nature, you know. That's the whole thing about a roast is like, it's, you know, they take the piss out of each other,
Starting point is 00:14:43 but it's not like hate speech or anything. They're just, you know. Yeah. It's a, you're just having fun. But then also, because then you realize you're dancing a little bit of an edge, because there's only a few more steps we take to, like, we have our own show and we're, like, proper just going off on them, like. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Yeah, to, like, we become, like, cartozy racist. There's, like, just a small gray area. Yes. And that's the fun, I feel, of comedy is jumping around that area on the pole where, like, if you fall the wrong way, you're a Nazi. But if you go the other way, you're a nasty but you know what I mean
Starting point is 00:15:25 like that's what I like about comedy is that little balancing act where you're like there is a set of morals yes that's true you do work in a sort of a like I have morals in terms of comedy
Starting point is 00:15:38 where I'm like I feel like I'm on the right here and sometimes on this podcast I'll admit we go all away on the other side where I'm kind of like there's stuff I'm properly ashamed of like, where I still
Starting point is 00:15:50 like, in the middle of the night, wake up and like, oh, I can't believe I call that black actress that name, uh, repeata Nyungo. I've learned her name now. Oh, good. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Our PR people got on to you. It's like, you got to learn them.
Starting point is 00:16:03 Yeah, yeah, you're never going to be a next Avengers movie. Because I want to be a new black panther and I don't know. You should have seen how he showed up for the audition. Let's just say he was inspired by D.W. But I was saying meow. So it was like cute. It was cute blackface.
Starting point is 00:16:18 but like I definitely like on stage I don't think I've ever I've always like put a lot of tall into it because that's the thing like I think the good comics who say offensive things they actually have put tall into it that's true yeah
Starting point is 00:16:33 but then there's comics out there who are like and I'm actually I'm not saying what I'm going to say okay but they'll just say something you guys go up stage to say something really offensive let's say like yeah you know I hear like the fuck retards or something like you know
Starting point is 00:16:48 and there's no taunt to at all it's like as they're walking up the stage they're like yo retards what if you like fuck yeah hickory dicker dick I was sucking some retod's big cock
Starting point is 00:17:02 sorry going At least he wrote those poems I believe maybe got like a team of Jewish writers to like well he is Jewish actually oh yeah a lot of people don't know that but Andrew Dice Clay is actually a Jewish guy but he played this real like
Starting point is 00:17:16 tough Italian American character See, I want to see more of that But I don't know Has he ever just like Every time I see him interviews He's still that character Yeah, but there's actually interesting Because it was on Arsenio Hall as well
Starting point is 00:17:29 He was getting a lot of flack From like feminists and stuff So he was like Oh, you want to know about Andrew Dice Clay Alright, I'll tell you So this is when he's on the couch He gets up, walks over to the mic Like he's gonna do stand-up
Starting point is 00:17:40 And he like takes out a cigarette It's like a couple of years ago I came to the shitty with an empty pockets And big dreams And he gets all teary hiding shit and it's like you know my name's Andrew Silvestine alright you know and this is just a character
Starting point is 00:17:54 and he gets real emotional shit and starts crying and then a week later Sam Kinison goes on it's like well that guy's a fucking pussy no why's he crying like a little bitch yeah what what was his idea of doing why did he go the serious way basically because what they think was going to happen of course they're going to make fun of him
Starting point is 00:18:09 well I think he was kind of like because his character was so like offensive outrageous misogynistic homophobic racist etc So he wanted to get up and show them the real Andrew Silverstein. I think that's his surname. Probably getting that wrong, but it's something like that. We'll edit it around this.
Starting point is 00:18:29 It definitely isn't. But anyway, it's definitely not the right name. We should Google it. You keep talking on Google real quick. We'll put a little money on this. Okay, let's go. Here we go, Andrew Silverstein. Or something to that effect.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Anyway, keep vamping for a second. What are you talking about? Well, no, it's just very interesting because that was the one time. you saw him divert from that character and be the real guy and he actually gets emotional and starts crying but because he was getting so much hate from like feminists for being a misogynistic pig
Starting point is 00:18:58 well what's his name Jesus Christ what silverstein yes success you're actually yeah you're not coming out me now boy wow you've defeated them all no matter what anyone says I can play this clip in court
Starting point is 00:19:13 your honor if you'll indulge me for a moment yes this is my redemption you're like a walk detector that's great but yeah it's very interesting because he got so much hate
Starting point is 00:19:27 and eventually it did sort of ruin his career he got a lot of hate and like because he was selling out Madison Square Garden and then like two years later he couldn't even get a sitcom off the ground he's got a lot of hate
Starting point is 00:19:38 a lot of women hated him yeah and still do the thing is I think they're wrong but I never are argue with them because deep down in the back of my head I'm like it is it is kind of bad yeah that's the kind of like a lot of my arguments are like that or like I know I'm wrong but but you better not challenge me so in my head is just immediately like yeah he should be able to say all those things
Starting point is 00:20:04 of women and no fuck them yeah but I'm also not a woman but no fuck them yeah well that's true I do always tend to side with the comedian yeah you know what I mean in every case. In every case, yeah. Every case. Even the big cases. He's talking with Louis. That's my Louis CK impression. Would you like the pudding pot please and watch my masturbate? Yeah, that's my Louis impression.
Starting point is 00:20:39 Pretty spot all, I have to say. Actually, you know what? I was going to say women hate him and I was fair into dice, but also Louis now. Basically every comedian, you just be like, like, and women hate him. And they're like, yeah, it's true. We're all shit. But Sheenae O'Connor, she wouldn't do SNL the same night he was hosting.
Starting point is 00:20:58 That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, you know, they brought her back and guess what she did? Ripped up a picture of the Pope. Which, the thing is now, I'll actually want to talk with this now, because I've been watching a good bit of Sheenae O'Connor recently. Oh, she's an interesting character. She's very interesting now.
Starting point is 00:21:11 She's very Irish. Whether she likes it or not. Yes. She's very Irish. Like, just like a great sorrow. Oh, very interesting. very much so everything like you really can feel like hitting the face of this like misery feel the pain but also this in fairness to her like this strength of like this stuff that would cripple
Starting point is 00:21:27 anyone else she's actually still like she's doing s and l she's fighting through it like yeah yeah yeah i mean she's emotionally crippled and she's on s andl bus how many times do i got to say the word before smel yeah i'm not going to say the word but that if you're not going to say the word but that if you want to find out the word the slur that Shane Gillis used this could be like a little fun segment yes the slur do do do do do it's for Chinese and it's only one syllable ooh exciting nagger no no no wait as the old Shane goes a bleep in the armor you know that phrase that in the armor like that's how is that still allowed you still hear an older guy say and you'd be like wait you can say that oh yeah yeah it's kind of like when
Starting point is 00:22:16 you watch the dog racing sometimes and the man would be like jeez that she's a fine bitch and you know you know he's loving it because he gets to say bitch on television yeah and he's like loving like yeah a bitch am I mean the dog lady dog and absolutely divine
Starting point is 00:22:33 bitch yeah he's savouring yeah he really just is yeah he's loving it what the hell we're talking about so Chanel O'Connor yeah so I'm watching a lot of her like and she's a Muslim now yes yes I'm yeah not even aware.
Starting point is 00:22:47 Yeah, were you scared? No more than usual. To honestly, it's her femininity that terrifies me. Not for ideologies. Which is definitely some people who are like terrified when they found out did go her.
Starting point is 00:23:03 Like I was laughing myself the idea of like if Fox News interviewed her and like the reporter comes out like a hazmat suit. Just in case she gets any Islam on him. but like the thing is she was on
Starting point is 00:23:22 the late late show there yeah yeah that's right and she's a Muslim now and like she honestly you're good if that's what stopping her from killing herself
Starting point is 00:23:31 that's true yeah if she finds strength in that which she obviously does then follow it to her you know like you know I want to make there's a bit to me wants to make jokes but you have to like
Starting point is 00:23:39 not even about careful to get in trouble I also like feel especially with Islam stuff you have to be very careful because there's a more of a chance that you might incite some violence
Starting point is 00:23:48 there's a little bit no I'm talking about against them against in Ireland oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah well like suppose we're aside but in Ireland it's more likely odd that a group of
Starting point is 00:24:01 dumbasses and draw there are going to throw eggs at a Muslim girl that's true yeah it's more likely that incident and don't drum yeah yeah and people try and turn that into like a feminist issue it's like no like those children probably care so much about women's rights that's why they hate crime that poor girl you know
Starting point is 00:24:20 because they're extremely woke and they're just trying to help they love the handmaid's tale this is the only instance where two wrongs do make a right like that was an awful case then like those kids which I don't know if anything's happened to that
Starting point is 00:24:40 I hope it was a big thing and then it sort of went away I hope those people have some kind of awful accident in the future, like... Or they're forced to work in the Dundrum Shopping Centre. Oh, Jesus. Oh, wonderful little clip there and some social satire and it's best. When you're going on tour, when you're out in the sticks, like,
Starting point is 00:25:01 when you do your... Anyone been to the Dundrum Shopping Center? Women are throwing bras. This will be my hot pocket. And there be no joke to it. There be no, like, tags or anything. It'll just be you saying that. It's the harsh critique.
Starting point is 00:25:17 The car phone warehouse is located. Too close to the bathroom. The more exact the geography is. The funny areas. Yeah, yeah. The more, like, incredibly unfunny is anyone outside of Ireland. Yeah. The better.
Starting point is 00:25:29 The better. Yeah. Like, Richie Kavana. Oh, man, Richie Kavana. Which, is he dead yet? No, it's incredible. He must be, like, feasting on the blood of children. He's still alive.
Starting point is 00:25:40 He does not look good, though. He's, what, that's not living? No, man. I tell you, was that a festival? it was like a local farming kind of festival kind of like the Carlo plowing championships
Starting point is 00:25:51 there was something similar in Monon and like my mate's band were playing but we were all like up really late the next day like the night before we did a load of yokes or whatever and then I woke up and went to the gig and just saw Richie Kavana like walking around in a daze and skin peeling and stuff
Starting point is 00:26:06 he looked horrific he looks like he's a mutant he's a lizard he's a reptilian the own robocop where the guy gets all like the stuff thrown on and he turns this monster toxic waste yeah and he gets hit by car
Starting point is 00:26:18 that's what that's what just before the car hit him like he's not alive properly not in the brain like he can't move his hands
Starting point is 00:26:26 properly he's just shaking his children his awful children just pulling him around like making him stand for pictures he's confused
Starting point is 00:26:33 he's in fucklga fuckl three fucka l that's all I can say like that's his big bit like that
Starting point is 00:26:39 Stanhope bit about Sugar Ray Leonard yeah yeah he's just gone oh no was it about not Sugar Rail Leonard the guy who played Reging Bull.
Starting point is 00:26:47 Oh yeah. Jake LaMotta. Jake LaMotta. That's even, oh, that's even shitter then. Well, they were both brain damage in the end. That's true.
Starting point is 00:26:58 But like Richard Kavanaugh, he's always around the plowing. Yeah, it's all those like agricultural events in Ireland. That's his big circuit. Like that's, you know, that's like basically a Vegas residency for him, like, to know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:12 For him, like, because the plowing championship is in like carlo this year so that's his equivalent of like Sinatra and the rap pack going to Vegas it's him going to Carlo and get a really nice B&B and they might leave him with a one for a few minutes he'll get a hand job if he's lucky
Starting point is 00:27:32 God yeah him and Ariane a grand day which oh god that would be a great pair now it would yeah it'd be interesting yeah she write the breakup song about him she's a see you next Tuesday hope you don't mind me say what a dirty
Starting point is 00:27:51 see you yeah that'll be good she made Mac Miller kill himself if he went to more modern day references like that drop the odd Epstein reference
Starting point is 00:28:07 you know just like started beefing would that be great like if like all the trance musicians started beefing with one. Oh, if it comes out, he killed Brendan Grace. Oh, his final words were fuck to police. I have my fun and that's all that matters.
Starting point is 00:28:27 What are we talking about? We're gone on an awful pantom here. It's a dial-up back. We need some structure. Yeah, should I check my notes? Please do. What are we talking about last, actually? Sheenade O'Connor, Muslims.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Muslims, yeah, we're just saying good for her. Good for her. we're all for it she's got she's got our much wanted seal of approval highly coveted she's on the edge so like every little bit of approval that's true
Starting point is 00:28:52 it's almost like I always think about Shania O'Connor kind of like an endangered species where like she's any second if I got the text like she's killed herself like fucking I knew it like I've never known Shana O'Connor to not be slightly worried she's going to top herself
Starting point is 00:29:08 yeah wasn't around in like the glory days when she was like really confident back in the day. Yeah, it was very like... She was very confident. I saw in Arsenio Hall once and he was like, you know, I hear somebody in England, some music craig said he'd like to spank you.
Starting point is 00:29:24 Yeah. Well, let me tell you, I wouldn't mind doing the spanking first. And you know, it's like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And then she's just like real confident going like, yeah, I wouldn't mind if you spank me. And he's like, whoa, blah, blah. Poor. Did she have a long hair back then?
Starting point is 00:29:40 Did she have long hair back then? the interview I saw with short hair short hair yeah or maybe even bald actually yeah yeah I can't remember when the bald thing came in what is that about like why she shaved it for something
Starting point is 00:29:52 she was very political but things I don't actually agree with oh no it's not even it's not even agree with it I think her whole stuff was like war is bad famine is bad you wouldn't really
Starting point is 00:30:04 disagreeing with that like no one like boo love a bit war making and more kind of really there wasn't anything like I think she was always right she was all in the right side of history looking back like all her causes
Starting point is 00:30:18 there was no like well she was very against the Catholic church honestly it would be weird if it turned out she was really like she was very pro-apartheid like she was always the wrong side of one picture everything else she was dead on
Starting point is 00:30:33 yeah she's against racism every other part of the world in South Africa she was like nah works here works They'd lose money if they stopped it. But they broke, don't fix it. You'll have to pay them more.
Starting point is 00:30:47 She's always been the right side. And the amount of strength that must take to like, because it's so easy when you're on the stairs up to fame. Yeah, yeah. You start seeing the bright light and how nice is and you just want to get closer and closer. So you'll do and say whatever you have to. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Because she could have gone the route of, what do you want me to do? Fake tits, no bother. Mega fame. Yeah, fake tits, bleached hair, and if Iman says that he'd be like he he ho ho ho
Starting point is 00:31:13 I'm Sheney Connor like that you know don't say anything don't be like maybe
Starting point is 00:31:21 we should stop the famine don't say anything like that okay because then they'll hate you yeah she's got her team of publicists
Starting point is 00:31:31 and your famine rhetoric is just we're losing middle America she has one those little dogs with Paris Hilton dogs but she gets a new one every day
Starting point is 00:31:38 and the old one she just sticks in a blender. So she turned it all down to go like an unconventional way. Yeah, yeah. Where she didn't have, you know, she could have a way better career if she wanted. Huge career. When she ripped up that picture of Pope, you know. She pissed off a lot of people.
Starting point is 00:31:54 She pissed off. She pissed off. You forget how many people she pissed off. Yeah, like it was a really big deal. They got non-stop calls. Like, I read a book about SNO. I'm going to talk about that instant. Everyone they interview talks about as if like it was the scariest moment of their life. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:10 yeah which I could see a little bit it's just like they're so comfortable in their jobs they're like oh shit
Starting point is 00:32:15 I might lose money yeah yeah but like they talk about as if like the show is done I'm blacklisted
Starting point is 00:32:21 they'll never work with me they're gonna kill my kids you know yeah it's done it's done
Starting point is 00:32:27 oh fuck I might do an art book Dwyer just end it but like so they're all terrified
Starting point is 00:32:36 even Lauren Michaels was like yes I talk to myself that was a good run. Well, I suppose good things must come to an end. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:47 I'm sort of siding with her molester now, to be honest. Oh, that's horrible. That's horrible. No, Lauren said it. Yeah, Lauren said it. Lord was in the room. Of course, he was just here.
Starting point is 00:32:56 Well, that's the defense. You better not have Shane Gillis on this podcast. He is not looked upon favorably anymore. Well, get out of here, Lord. Fuck you, Lord. Yeah, hit the bricks.
Starting point is 00:33:09 I'm going to. throw a bag of piss on you then you'll respect me maybe you would if I like if I true that's your SNL audition a condo full of piss because it's very like
Starting point is 00:33:19 I'm subverting the genre so I just throw it out in the face like just pissed all over his face and he's like I like your style you've got the job well done so like yeah
Starting point is 00:33:32 they all hate her yeah that's true fucking Sinatra said he wants to kick her in the ass really serious yeah yeah yeah okay that was is, yeah, which is like, how awesome is that
Starting point is 00:33:42 to think, like, I want to age Frank Sinatra wanted to beat me. That was pretty cool, yeah. And even Pesci was on the S&L the next week. And he ripped up a picture of her. Yeah, yeah, something like that, yeah, yeah. And then he said something like, oh, I'd smack her. Jesus Christ.
Starting point is 00:33:58 And this is Pesci saying it, so... Yeah, yeah. You know we'd do it. Well, actually, it's Natura as well. It was like someone of sports with them, like... You're lucky I got tennis elbow kid I'd give you a smack
Starting point is 00:34:11 a row across the chaps alright hey you yeah wish that Woody Allen guy I'm gonna knock his block off you know
Starting point is 00:34:20 there's like a rumor that Frank Sinatra tried to take a hit out on Woody Allen after the you know the banging his daughter yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:34:30 because he like was in love with me of Farrow and it's his kid isn't it well Ronan Farrow yeah a lot of people say it's Frank Sinatra's kid
Starting point is 00:34:37 I put money on it but like he was linked up to the Oh, maybe he did. That would be so funny. He's like, hey, we're going to get this guy. I'm going to whack him. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:34:45 I'm actually allergic to death. If you could, please just refrain. How funny is it that you know Roman Farrow? Yeah. His whole thing is investigating people's histories. He's got a bit of a blind spot. But how funny would it be if he just hadn't put two and two together? If he was just like completely oblivious to that one.
Starting point is 00:35:10 thing. We're like to say Frank Sinatra, he's like, who? That he looks at picture, he's like, what? Dad! And then like, just him like looking Sinatra and a picture of Woody Allen and back and forth. Yeah, it's mental. Yeah, he really does look like a young. What's his deal, Roman Farrow?
Starting point is 00:35:31 Is that all he does? He works for the, he writes for the New York, or he just kind of goes around and expose him people. Yeah, he was very big on the whole Weinstein thing and the Me Too move. But then his comments about his dad, I'm not sure if he's ever explicitly came out and said, I believe my sister, Dylan, and I believe that my father did these things. I don't think he's ever, I think he's kind of like, well, I'm not sure. I don't know. Dylan seems to think, but who can say, you know.
Starting point is 00:35:58 You see, yeah. Yeah, it's interesting. Oh, again, to be a fly on the wall of these conversations, you know. I would love to just, like, I tell you what I'd love to hear. You know, Scarlett Johansson came out and she's pro Woody Allen? Yeah, I saw that, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would love to hear them just have a few drinks, you know, and they're just hanging out, and Colin Jost is in the corner or somewhere.
Starting point is 00:36:20 Like, because he's married, she's married to. That's right, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which is, that's the whole thing to think about, like, how did that happen? He's a good-looking guy, funny, you know? She, she, God, she was day and Ryan Reynolds at once days. That's true. Yeah, yeah. But to hear them just have a few drinks and talk about,
Starting point is 00:36:36 and then just, like, just to hear Woody just go off in him, you know? just be like yeah and he was like you know what I got away with it too like
Starting point is 00:36:42 and like just here like I love to be so interested here Scarred Johansson just like she has a dark sense of humor
Starting point is 00:36:49 or she's like yeah yeah she's giggling I'm what yeah yeah you're such a bad
Starting point is 00:36:54 well he definitely he definitely probably makes jokes about it yeah just know what he's like yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:37:00 yeah well you're that's the tendency like I bet you like you bring him over to the house okay and like here's the baby's like
Starting point is 00:37:05 oh I hope I won't marry it you know you know he's definitely doing no jokes with that to break the ice you know because we're all thinking it of course yeah yeah yeah yeah so or he just shows up i got a train set for your kids yeah yeah oh bad taste and they're like i don't get it and he's like let me tell you i actually got video here if you want to
Starting point is 00:37:24 watch yeah this was actually nominated for uh two Oscars but uh I managed to talk them out of it uh interesting somebody has a tape of it's like don't let Roman find this yeah what are we at here oh yeah oh yeah we're at 37 okay we're not doing too bad yeah we're doing all right yeah yeah yeah yeah you have anything else you wanted to talk about let's see i was um did we miss anything there do we need to go back no i don't think so i'm thinking if we've watched any films lately have you seen it chapter two no i haven't uh i'm looking forward to it though although i've heard mixed reports i'm not looking forward to it no i didn't even like the first one yeah i don't know
Starting point is 00:38:08 Yeah, I think I know I watched the first one and I was like I'm not gonna like this I don't give shit about it or whatever I actually enjoyed it more than I thought I would I was like pleasantly surprised
Starting point is 00:38:20 I thought it'd be garbage I like the kids aspects yeah all the scary stuff I just wanted that to be over I was never like in any way like oh I'm invested in the scares I just wanted to be over so we hang up with the kids more
Starting point is 00:38:31 and wait to see if that scene happens but I was waiting for and then I wrote that strongly worded letter to universal pictures I demand this scene to be included I'll film it myself I've got some B footage
Starting point is 00:38:48 you might be interested yeah I wasn't like too impressed with it I hear the second one's like a decline in quality again yeah I heard it's worse like three hours is it three hours? Yeah yeah it's like Doran's Arabia
Starting point is 00:39:04 God that's a long time it's a long long time and even the people I know who like wouldn't be a savvy about film where they're probably just watching anything like, yeah, it was good, yeah. You know, oh shit. Even then we're like, weirdly like knew a lot about it.
Starting point is 00:39:19 They're like, I just think it was edited poorly. Oh really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. They were like actually noticing things. Using some of the industry lingo. Yeah, yeah, right. A bunch of hip cats you're hanging out with here. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:29 Just at the Chateau Marmont. Yeah, they're like, giving the Liebert review. It was like. What through a straw? is the bubble comes out two babbles two and a half bubbles so how do you do like two bubbles
Starting point is 00:39:48 you just shits themselves that that seems like the movie but you have you seen it actually no chapter two I'll get around and see it at some stage I might just download it I don't think I'll go to...
Starting point is 00:40:12 Just be part of the conversation because it's a real war cooler moment I'm just interested to see Bill Hader I just saw you know It's great to see him because he was so good in Barry So I think he'd give a good performance He's moving up in the world
Starting point is 00:40:25 He really is and that could have been Shane Gillis Could have been It could have been in it It wasn't for the Chinese And I don't understand if that's fully correct But I don't need to Yeah, but I think it is. So, no, I haven't seen it.
Starting point is 00:40:41 I watched two films lately. Ramble, First Blood. Oh, First Blood is actually not bad. Never seen that, so we can talk with Dan's second. It gets more ridiculous as the sequels go on. The first one was halfway plausible. Yeah, I want to go to the Rambo series with you in a minute. And the other film I watched afterwards was Call Me By Your Name.
Starting point is 00:41:00 I haven't seen that. It's kind of like Italian. I don't know if it's Italian there. It's got like Army Hammer and that young fella. he's like skinny I don't know he's some young skinny lad yeah
Starting point is 00:41:14 he's white ah that's why I like him I wasn't sure for that first part but then you hooked me in yeah yeah they're so stem two and they play like
Starting point is 00:41:25 two guys in Italy and like one's 17 and one's 24 army hammer plays a 24 year old and I don't believe that no he's like way older yeah but he plays
Starting point is 00:41:36 24 year old. Okay. A very big man 24 year old. And this kid plays the 17 year old but if he played it a little bit different he could have passed for like 15. Oh really? Yeah. Maybe like 16. Like you could have done a more underage story. And is that the thing that they're
Starting point is 00:41:52 like in a relationship or something? See what happens is I knew it was a gay drama. So I'm, so you're waiting. Is that an LGBT film or are you just giving a harsh critique of the film? No, no, no. That's not like, those aren't my root movie reviews.
Starting point is 00:42:07 Okay. My movie reviews aren't just like gay. Two gays. Well, well gay, that. Two blocs sucking each other off as properly gay is that? That's your review in the New York Times.
Starting point is 00:42:18 Written by Roman Farrow. Somebody's like, in my mind, the headline of the newspaper itself is just, that's proper gay. Breaking news. So that's the filamentary couple. Well, the thing is like, it's like
Starting point is 00:42:33 they don't reveal anything about their sexuality to start. So you're waiting for gayness to happen. It's kind of like in the Dracula movie you're waiting for Dracula. A different kind of sucking. Yeah, yeah. Oh, tag.
Starting point is 00:42:48 Chris Cross. Yeah, they're both big AIDS academics in the gay world and the vampire world. Well, AIDS is a metaphor for vampires. Is that right? No. So, like,
Starting point is 00:43:02 he just shows up at a house. They're living in a summer home. He's like a friend of the father. okay and then like they're kind of like not flirt you don't even know what's going on
Starting point is 00:43:11 they're talking a lot right right and then they kind of like very subtly it's almost if they know
Starting point is 00:43:17 we're going in that's gay drama so they're playing with our expectations you know okay right he might like your hamstring
Starting point is 00:43:23 feels a bit weird let me massage it for you stuff like that and you're like oh it's going to happen now and then it doesn't
Starting point is 00:43:30 you're like aw and they kind of play almost like a jump scare they're kind of like to just play with you and then when the gay stuff does happen it's not like a it's like a very slow
Starting point is 00:43:46 but gentle natural kind of thing it's not like broke back back and was like what I like about is isn't any way like how can we be doing this oh my God what's happening to us you know like that it's just like almost if it's set in the 80s but it feels like this
Starting point is 00:44:05 is a part of the universe where gay is completely accepted no one has any problem with at all that's the crazy thing because you're so conditioned to think like oh now something bad's going to happen to him because in Hollywood gay no no you know gay means dead eventually gay or gay means like dead
Starting point is 00:44:22 or he's in danger or like you know something like that or even like something bad could happen to the gay guy you know she's going to be like that pretty much she's going to he's going to, like, incur some homophobic... Yeah, we're all he's expecting something to happen with, like, the local constable season
Starting point is 00:44:37 and then, like, you know... Stop this at once, the local... In Italy. Bloody Africa, I'm going to have a carbonara. Or, like, even if the parents found out. The parents, can you find out the parents have known the whole time?
Starting point is 00:44:52 And they're cool about it? They're kosher way, yeah. Okay. Because they're Jewish. Ah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's some kosher gay sex. And, like, the dad.
Starting point is 00:45:00 even like spoiler at the very end the dad's like you know I once had a relationship like yours but I was too scared to go wait fully you know so the dad's like yeah I've done a bit of yeah you know gay stuff I've lifted the shirt in my time you know what I mean yeah yeah yeah and it doesn't literally not it's really kind of a beautiful film that's nice and I I hear the one do like it's they want to do like based on some novels okay and the next novel like 20 years in the future and they're like hey maybe 20 years from there it's been made illegal and they're all in cages
Starting point is 00:45:31 Yeah Planet of the Apes Wow Wow You'll blow it up And it was It's made like It's gonna be like a very
Starting point is 00:45:39 very tin parody of Donald Trump Like Yeah And it'd be like Oh emperor Trump With an F at the end In the hilarious
Starting point is 00:45:47 Yeah Yeah Yeah yeah That's like a Mike Pence Wet Dream So they're making More movies Then about the novels
Starting point is 00:45:54 Series of novels They might do something Like a few years Like When they old A little bit To get a little bit Older like
Starting point is 00:45:59 Because they may be a little bit add, a little bit extra white in the temples to like that. Well, it's kind of, yeah, I suppose it's good to see a movie where, like, uh, homosexuality isn't like stigmatized or something made out to be this big thing. It's, you know what it feels like, it feels like, I'm basically watching a little gay, a softcore gay porn. Ah. But it's done so well and with so much emotion in it.
Starting point is 00:46:18 Wonderful lighting. Like, a lot of the, um, the sexual scenes in it, there's no kind of like, I've got you under her, fucking, you know, I've got a rope around your neck. You know, like, it's, it's not even, like, it's, it's not even, like, that much nudity around it. It's just kind of like a lot of like just kissing on the neck and then moving down. Yeah. And then like maybe moving back up to the neck. Very artful.
Starting point is 00:46:38 And then moving down again and then back to the neck and you're like, get to get to it. Well if you want a film that's gratuitous, I saw this movie called, I think it was called King Cobra. With James Franco and Christian Slater. And it's all about like this gay porn star.
Starting point is 00:46:54 And like every third scene is like a sex scene. But it's like really like, yeah, fuck that fucking she want to fuck my fucking ass fucking fucking fucking yeah it's very gratuitous and I'm like I get it but yeah you know what it's kind of because we've been so conditioned okay that's when you see
Starting point is 00:47:10 that you're like almost like relieved you're like oh yes okay now I know what they're having sex okay I know what's going on I can I can loosen my tie and undo my top button it's time to relax yeah eat my meal and just enjoy it okay have a scotch
Starting point is 00:47:26 maybe a cigar tell my wife to leave don't come in but when you see this film calling me by your name because they're just like slowly kissing and you're like it's so much passion
Starting point is 00:47:38 it scares me like oh it's actually like they're two human beings yeah yeah you're like what is going on yeah yeah I thought the computer died yeah
Starting point is 00:47:47 even the computer's like all right lads is too yeah yeah like there's actually a bit in it where like the young fella comes in a peach and then army hammer's like
Starting point is 00:47:57 I'm gonna eat it but it's not like a, that could be like a Farty Brothers thing or like, you know. Enjoying your vitamin C yeah, and he's like... No, Farty Brothers movie in the 90s would be like he, like, Jim Carrey comes then and he makes
Starting point is 00:48:11 a woman eat it. And then it gives her pills and she kills herself. And in 90s that'd be hilarious. But now you can't... And he flies to Ireland for the funeral and tells everyone not to vaccinate their kids and to watch out for the dumb and dumber sequel.
Starting point is 00:48:28 Like, because he did like a speech at a funeral it was just a 40 minute presentation Alrighty then Yeah He did some characters first And then he slides into like the presentation But yeah So calling by your name sounds good
Starting point is 00:48:43 I'll look out for it I'll look out for him You know what I'm buzzing for is the Joker film Oh yeah we're on here I'm looking forward to it man You know but like there's been all these articles released like It's like a metaphor for like the in cell
Starting point is 00:48:58 uprising and it's going to motivate lonely white guys to go out and kill people. Well, like, that's kind of what I want to do. Then this is the film for you. Well, that's the thing. Maybe I feel threatened when I see it because it's something I don't like about it. Maybe it's because I'm like, that should be me up there. That should be me.
Starting point is 00:49:17 I love Wacking Phoenix, man. So I think it's... But apparently they're playing it as a total psychological thriller. It's not going to be like superheroy at all. So I'm really interested in how it's... I'm trying to put my finger it was something about the trade and I watch it I'm like I don't like this I want to like it yeah yeah it's got everything I like in a in a film yeah walking deniro um comedy it's like a
Starting point is 00:49:40 yeah I think zazy beats is in it and you know if zizi beats is in something damn I'm buying my ticket I don't even know I am camped out I am on the zazy beats train I don't know what you're talking about oh zazzy beats is that a set of headphones what is this wow you've lost all the respect you had. That's how quick it goes. That's how quick it goes.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Zizi Silverstein. Well, if she's any sense, she will change her name to that. So yeah, it's got a lot of people liking it. And there's something about it. It feels a little bit shallow
Starting point is 00:50:17 and hollow to me. And even like all the philosophical stuff. Okay. I'm like, this seems like, I'm getting real, when Zach Snyder in a DC films tries to be like deep and philosophical, and he's,
Starting point is 00:50:28 said he's had Superman reading like man in Superman he's like look you know he's reading philosophy about Superman he's fucking Superman my daughter's dead uh yeah yeah yeah yeah god there's a lot of jokes you make about that but it it is sad she didn't seem like a nice girl yeah yeah yeah what she was she was like 17 or something like that yeah and you know just think of the different options i could go there but i'm not there's a lot of avenues you know Think about maybe one of his first big films She was forced to sit in the editing room of Bad Man versus Superman
Starting point is 00:51:02 Yeah, that's one there That's one there Think about one of his early films Talk about final cut What was his early films? Zombies Oh the zombies Yeah
Starting point is 00:51:11 So like he did the picture of his door Something like that I would make that joke I'm just saying like That's all the ways he could go Like the insensitive people That's what they would say Ah
Starting point is 00:51:22 Yeah but it's also For some reason kind of funny which I don't know why and I'm trying I'm trying people okay I feel like it's almost good to get this out of my head on a podcast
Starting point is 00:51:35 so at least it's out on my head but it spreads it's recorded forever and can be used against you yeah can be used and it will start something of death cult this is like the 13 reasons why
Starting point is 00:51:47 did you ever like think about in like your darker moments kind of like you know you know like you're Donald Walt shit. No. Okay, he's this young lad who died of cancer
Starting point is 00:51:58 and he had a whole like live life campaign. Oh, he was on the late age. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And don't commit suicide. Oh, yeah, that's true. You ever like in your really bitter moments think of starting like, you know, something that goes against him, like, a charity that like is deliberately like,
Starting point is 00:52:12 for one, trying to undermine him. Yeah. Yeah. And two, trying to convince every child in the world to just do it. Like, we're like, let's say I'll be like, you know, turn to marks my birthday. Let's make it like an annual holiday. where, like, the first 100 children who commit suicide will, like, you know, get a shout out on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:52:34 It's a damn good price. It was like a Patreon thing, we shout them out. Instead of giving money, you kill yourself. Yeah, do you ever, like, in the, yeah, like, you have dark thoughts like that? Well, no, I've never had a thought of that, but no, I've had dark thoughts, sure, but never, like. I think about that. And in a funny way, in a funny way. Yeah, of course.
Starting point is 00:52:53 Yeah, yeah. so then we say these bad things but like oh god I should probably I'm not gonna watch Joker I tell you that I'm already dangerously on the edge like the last thing I need is like a blueprint of what to do
Starting point is 00:53:06 yeah fair enough oh god you know what it will get sad like if I watch it next episode of the podcast like I'm wearing a mask but I just don't want to address it I'm just like this is who I am I'm a clown
Starting point is 00:53:18 when you're a clown no one day so seriously Oh, God. We'll go one more and then we'll wrap it up. We'll go one more. So we're talking about movies coming out. Yeah. Oh, Rambo.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Oh, yes, Rambo. Yeah, we're going to talk about Rambo. Just real quick, okay, so I saw First Blood. Yeah. I was not what I thought it was going to be. Yeah, it's different. For one thing, it's just one long chase, basically. Pretty much, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:47 I expect him, like, he had to, I expect him, like, villains of some sort, but there's no real villains. Like, there's, like, everyone's, the shades of gray, you know? Yeah. well though that guy was a bit of an asshole to him at the start the cop yeah yeah yeah yeah but like the shades are great and then in the end it's almost if he's that doing the bit he's acting yeah that bit where it's the breakdown it's like i went fuck they war he came back and he spit on me man like it's actually pretty good still when the whole vietnam war thing was kind of fresh yeah yeah it was
Starting point is 00:54:14 that's the thing what it became really does a disservice to that's thing because you think a rambo you think more silly stuff yeah you think outrageous violence and stupid like blowing shit up Which is what it became. But the first movie had a point to it. It was well done. It's kind of a very small story. The first scene of it is him going to his friend's house and his friends died like napal and poisoning.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Yeah, yeah. Like, that's the start of an action movie. And then imagine if that was in the start of one of the Fast and Furious films where they were going like, where is that? Where is Paul Walker. He died, how? I'm not touching that one. Just imagine how real it be if they're like, yeah, he just died in Iraq.
Starting point is 00:54:53 he was friends with Dan Crenshaw but like but like so it was kind of real yeah like if you remade that
Starting point is 00:55:08 today you could make that Oscar worthy that's true if I'll tell you I was thinking Steve McQueen yeah you know he did hunger
Starting point is 00:55:16 12 years later yeah yeah that film Widows which is really good yeah you I haven't seen it yeah yeah like if he did
Starting point is 00:55:23 his ramble and he made it like Italian wouldn't work. It would have to be like, I thought it would be a Muslim man. Oh, like Muslim American who went and fought with American soldiers? Yes, okay? He's a soldier and he's back in America now. He just wants to practice
Starting point is 00:55:39 his fate and be left alone. Yeah, yeah. And then you could do like the redneck Trump supporters like, you get out of here. And then he does what, I don't know, like kung fu whatever like. He takes out a recorder and a snake comes out of a basket. Yeah, you're getting all your stereotypes mixed up
Starting point is 00:55:55 He throws pennies at him And then he can't swim I don't know It's Steve McQueen, let him make it Hey, it's his movie Yeah, yeah But you could do something really powerful Like how, like, it's what's like to be a Muslim
Starting point is 00:56:12 American to stay in age like, you can do something like really cool But instead, just to like, right more like You see the Ford film Yes He's turning like men into soup yeah yeah i actually went to see that with this girl i was going out with at the time and it was so violent that's like her on in bed she wants you to have a knife no i had one anyway but uh a bigger knife it wasn't big enough for her that was that was a common
Starting point is 00:56:40 theme in our relationship a common critique yeah yeah no but i was i was nice about i actually was like do you want to like leave because she was like real uncomfortable or whatever it was like so violent. I was like, yeah, this is not a good date movie. Yeah. I felt like De Niro and taxi driver were taking her to the porno theater. I didn't know you didn't like these things. I thought I'd turn you on. I thought you were racist.
Starting point is 00:57:04 I thought you hated the Vietnamese. You were sending out to pretty strong signals. Oh, you just just, you only like a guy called Charlie. Oh, right. I thought you meant the collective group.
Starting point is 00:57:19 Yeah. turns like action movie they made a cartoon about it is that right we made a rambo cartoon but it was like a cartoon so it was him fighting like people who were doing pollution okay and stuff like that it's more like he just puts them in prison or whatever like that's a real 90s things like big movies get cartoon spin-offs yeah both the mask and dumb and dumber had cartoons yeah yeah yeah yeah robo cop had one robocop yeah yeah there's a real thing back down yeah just to make some money and like everyone was ashamed afterwards Yeah, so it went from cartoons, like, back to the violins.
Starting point is 00:57:54 Now they're doing Rambo 5. Final blood. Final blood, yeah. Where he gets a blood transfusion. But the interesting thing about this is, he's been working on this for years, and I swear to God, it's true. When they were working on the original draft of the script, he was going to fight a half human, half alien hybrid.
Starting point is 00:58:11 What? I'm serious, yeah. This is the script they're working on. They're going to start shooting the funding drop there wherever. Jesus. Yeah, so it was like, to be one final, like, show like, Rambo, we need you one last time. but we need the area 51 and it was going to be him like you know
Starting point is 00:58:24 the alien's escape and he's got to chase it with a knife yeah but now he's just fighting like the cartel okay Mexican cartel yeah yeah but it'd be funny like if they still like kept a lot of like
Starting point is 00:58:38 the actual script so it's like it's a cartel but also like if you kill them their blood is green they're spitting asses and jumping around the place they're like it's a half human half Mexican hybrid just predator with a sombrero
Starting point is 00:58:58 yeah I'm dead excited for that film well final blood yeah it's a bit of fun you know yeah yeah it'll be violent I wonder if he's going to be woke or something like he meets like I don't know like a non-binary person
Starting point is 00:59:14 but he's really cool about it yeah and that's like Stallone's idea of like Rambo doesn't killed this gay guy. Rambo must be pretty cool. I think we're going to end it there. Yeah, we'll wrap it up there. That was a fun one. That was good, yeah. He went some places.
Starting point is 00:59:32 We did. We kind of were all over the map. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We had a little joint beforehand. That's true. I just want to, before we go, I want to give a quick shout out to, because I tell the this, I was at a gig, did a gig in Monaghan, and the lad I haven't seen in years, but he came up to me. He's like, man, I just want to, these are his words that I just want to pay my respects to
Starting point is 00:59:50 Brian and James fuck each other. It's a great podcast and keep doing it and eventually people will tune in and you'll, you know, all your dreams will come true. I mean, I might be reading into what he said there, but that's the way I talk about. But Connor Teddy, cheers for listening, man. Hope you enjoyed this one.
Starting point is 01:00:06 Man, that's great. This is the start of death cult. And now you know what you must do, Connor, go and kill them all. The first hundred fans that kill the first hundred people were sent to heaven, and by heaven, we mean James is gap it's in glass
Starting point is 01:00:20 never if you kill 100 people you can suck us off all right that's the end the show all right
Starting point is 01:00:28 thanks for less the guys bye bye

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