Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 39 : Basic Instinct
Episode Date: October 19, 2019Brian and James chat about the film "Basic Instinct" and talk about how great it would be to get murdered by Sharon Stone....
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and we're ready we're going here we are once again once again uh James made me some nice tea
yes very nice thank you thank you James yeah I'm not having one but uh yeah well you were
going to I was going to but uh the cups got mixed up and uh you don't want to have
chlamydia pretty much yeah I know I felt bad pouring it down the sink I felt like I was uh
I could hear your heart breaking as the because I'm kind of like why don't you want
chlamydia. You don't want my
Clemedia? We can be chlamydia brothers.
Oh, I've tried that before. It doesn't work.
With my actual brother.
Isn't there a thing of people catch
AIDS on purpose, because it's so sexy?
Is that a thing?
No, I think it's like bug chasers.
What? You've not heard of this?
No. I thought it was pretty common knowledge.
No. I didn't bring up because it was
like hacky on the podcast before.
So yeah, there's these guys out there that like
the idea of catching AIDS. Oh my God.
I've not heard about this.
Yeah, so they call it bug, they call, they call them bug chasers.
So you're chasing the bug, you know, you're trying to get that AIDS.
And why?
Why do they want it?
It's so hot.
Okay.
I actually don't know.
I think it's the kind of form of, maybe self-harm or something.
There's definitely psychological aspect to me.
That's not healthy.
Who might judge?
Bug chasers.
Speaking of bugs, we were making tea and the rotundos on downstairs.
Yes, it was.
We saw a C-section.
You saw C-section.
I didn't want to look.
You know, I was, I'm a little bit squeamish.
Yeah.
It's a bit much, like, you know.
It's, it's okay when it's on TV and you're kind of half expecting it.
If I just walked in and it was happening, you know, and I, like, I wasn't prepared for a C-section.
I think it would be a little bit like, Jesus, put, kill it.
Call a priest.
Yeah.
So, anyway, a few episodes ago, we talked about basic instinct.
Yes.
And I said we'll do a whole episode about it
Yeah
So I watched it there this week
Okay
And uh
You see I saw it years ago
When I was like 14
So I remember bits of it
But this is kind of good now
This is like
This is better
If we just both saw
I'd be kind of boring
Yeah okay
So you're kind of half remembering it
I only remember the sex scenes
And obviously the famous
Yeah
Yeah
Which you'll get to
We'll get to
Oh we're gonna get to
Yeah
I've got one page
So I've got four pages
a note. That's an episode of itself. One page
just the word Vaj, written in very large letters.
And there's load everywhere.
Okay. So, we'll talk about
basic instinct. Explain a little bit first.
All right. It came out in the 90s.
Yeah. It was a big deal. It was very
famous, very quickly, for that famous shot.
Which, if you don't know, we'll get to, actually. Yeah, we'll get to.
So it starred Michael Douglas. Michael Douglas and Sharon Stone.
Yeah, two big movie stars.
Yes. Directed by Vaught Paul
Vertovin
A Dutch filmmaker
who has done
Robocop and Starship Troopers
Oh so yeah
I like both those films
Yeah yeah so
Yeah you're like
This fuck can't wait for this
And I'm actually
Now I went in this
Expect to make fun of it
Yeah
I kind of enjoyed it
It's pretty
I remember enjoying it too
It's like a sexy
Murder Mystery type film
It's a well done
Erotic thriller
Yeah
This is a better murder mystery
than the film murder mystery
Starring
Adam Sandler
And Adam Sandler
Opens his legs up
And go go go
You want to see my vagina
Oh he's my vagina
What are you looking at
You got a problem with my bushy
Yeah
I remember that movie
Yeah it was pretty good
That was more entertaining
than the actual movie
That was way more entertaining
the murder mystery to film
which they're doing a sequel of
fuck off are they?
Yeah because this is the excuse to go travelling around the place
Jesus Christ
oh wow
well time to talk about
let's not think about that
no we'll talk about basic instinct
so if film was a big success
yeah
and we'll just get into the plot
okay so it opens with the tri-star horse
yeah
remember that
which doesn't feature in the plot
but yeah
no because I just remember like
is you think that shot of the production company
is like oh what's that
horse, oh, he's up to no good.
Yeah, I don't understand the concept, like, production logos.
I just think it's all the movie.
I'm like, where is that, what's, what, is that the same horse from Blade Runner?
Yeah, but the only reason I brought up is it was a nice little bit of, like, nostalgia.
Yeah, because they're gone now, aren't they?
Yeah, or they're being merged.
Probably owned by Disney now or some shit, you know?
Um, this is dead.
So it opens up sex immediately.
Yes.
this guy's fucking a girl
now it's Sharon Stone
I think it is isn't it or are we
meant to not see who it is
That's what I mean like we don't see the head
Oh you just see the rocking bod
Yeah the rock and bod
Yeah and she looks alright too I guess
Hey
Oh I'll see what I did there
You may have seemed like you're gay
And that's wrong
It's wrong
It's wrong we don't promote that
We don't promote that on the podcast
We don't promote gay set
on Brian and James, fuck each other.
That is not the message.
We are proud of us right now.
Maybe gay people listen to the podcast.
We don't know. We don't know.
Frankly, we don't want to know.
No, we love all the game people.
We want them all to listen to this.
One what?
I don't know.
Just don't go after us.
Just leave us alone, would you?
We give you a parade.
What more day I want?
You can get married now.
Shut up, would you?
Fuck out my house
Hey
You're a funeral buddy
Okay so
They're having sex
Yeah
The girl pulls out a fucking knife
And just kills them
Yes
Yeah
So it's immediately
Sex and murder
Straight away
Hits you right in the face
straight and you're like
Fucking hell
Yeah
Fucking hell
What's going on
This ain't fucking robocop
Okay
Enter Michael Douglas
Okay
He's a detective
He's a cop
I think he might be a cop actually right
Yeah, no, no, no, you're right, detective
Okay, I don't know
Hey, you watched this film
I was 14 and I was just
But you remember that little bit
Look, I don't know, okay, look, he's a guy
Who's solved mysteries
And he's a cop, yeah
He's hanging out with the guys
He's all around the crime scene
There's a coke around
He's a dead man
Like, what the fuck happened here?
Let's see,
One of the guys makes
A joke, he says he got off
Before he got off
Hey, but doesn't really
That doesn't work at all
No, that's why I
wrote it down to make sure, like...
He got off before he got off.
Yeah.
Yeah, that doesn't work at all.
It's not great.
No.
That guy should workshop that.
He was at second city for weeks, and that's the best he could get in up with.
Anyway, so apparently this guy was a rock star and a close connection to the mayor.
Oh, okay, right.
He donated a lot of stuff to the mayor, so they're like, oh, no.
Right.
This political, like, let's solve this case quick for the mayor,
Stam's his fist on a desk.
Yeah.
okay so first thing you do when a guy gets killed interview his girlfriend yeah most likely suspect
yes in fact i read somewhere that 80% of all relationships that doesn't sound right
i was going to say 8% of all relationships and the homicide no is it 8% of your relationship
it's that or to get chlamydia then you have to kill them to silence you're like a
kennedy let's go for drive ask not what chlamydia can do for
For you, I only regret that you have one pussy to give.
Yeah.
Okay, so they go to the girlfriend's house.
Yeah.
And they walk in to see a girl, and she's not the girlfriend.
Okay.
Remember this?
No.
This is Roxy.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
She's, like, kind of the tough...
Yeah, the tough girl, okay?
So we're like, oh, you want Sharon Stone.
Yeah.
Catherine.
Catherine.
She's at the beach house.
Okay.
So they go to Catherine.
and Catherine's smoking hot, you know?
It's Sharon Stone, is it?
Yeah, yeah, Sharon Stone.
She's confident.
Sexy, smart.
Yeah, that means evil.
Oh, of course.
Yeah, yeah.
Say a questioner, and she doesn't seem to be phrased at all.
She's like, oh, no, he's dead.
That's a shame.
Did you love him?
I like fucking him.
You know, she's like that.
Oh, yeah, she's like, yeah.
She's very, yes, very open with her sexuality.
Yeah.
Which is a good thing, but this is the 90s.
And that was...
No, no, no, no, no.
Already I was like, she's bad.
Oh, she's evil.
I hope that horse comes and kills her.
Save us, three-star horse.
The evil woman.
Okay, so the next scene, so they leave Dan, like, wow, what a dame.
Yeah.
Yeah, well, what are you going to do?
So then Michael Douglas goes to see his counsellor, all right?
This is interesting.
Now, it goes to counselor.
Turns out he used to date the counsellor.
Yeah, she's a woman.
Yes.
Wait, they used to.
date? Yeah. Okay, yeah, and they broke up.
They're broken up and you're going to get a backstory like
he's like a bit of trouble in the past.
Okay, right, right. A bit of troubled man.
I see.
Um, they mentioned coke.
Right.
They mention alcohol. And he's going like, yeah, I've been off all that shit, you know.
Okay.
And you're like, he's bullshit.
He's, yeah, he's hitting it hard.
And they also just references to the fact that like he might have
accidentally in the past shot a few tourists by accident.
A few.
Do you ever that?
No, I don't remember.
Oh, yeah.
The only thing I remember is the sex scenes.
Like, I was 14.
That's the reason I was watching it.
That's a big character motivator from Michael Douglas.
Okay.
He went off a bit while ago and shot a few tourists for accidents.
There's newspaper headlines.
Like, Killer cop kills...
Tourists?
Yeah, yeah.
Or, like, on Space Mountain, was it?
Those cues can be frustrating.
You know, uh...
Wait, so he...
What's the...
Did they give you more of a backstory?
Uh, the only kind of mention the fact that he might be on cocaine at the time.
Chief, those are tourists.
Ah!
I'm going back, bang, bang, back.
Which sounds awesome.
He gets so cocked up at, like, Disney, like, shoot some tourists.
God, that's hilarious.
We just shoots a bunch of, like, I know, like, French people, like, ah, they're probably
in the cartel.
Ah, they're probably MS-30.
Oh, Jesus.
Yeah, but it sounds great, like, that taps on, like, a part of the male.
You always have feminists going about, like, the toxic masculinity.
Yeah.
And we're like, no, that's not true, but we're also, like, got to be great to kill some people.
If you're a great dude Coke
We'd just kill some innocence
Maybe she's right
But
So he's at the therapist's office
And he's going like
You know
I've been worse since I left you
Yeah
She's like
He actually makes a joke
Where he's like
She's like
How's your sex like
He goes
Well my hand hurts
Hey
See that works
Yeah
That's a good joke
You should have done that
To the rookie cop
He made a joke
He's like
This is like you do
And he rubs his hand on his face
So you can tell they still got chemistry
The therapist and
Michael Douglas
What's his character's name?
Nick
Nick, that's right Nick
Yeah
So we find out the girlfriend
Of the murder man, the rock star
Yeah
And Sharon, I'll just call it Sharon Stone
Sharon Stone, yeah
Turns out Sharon Stone is independently wealthy
Oh
Okay
And she's written a book
Yeah
And guess what the books
about a woman who kills a rock star husband or a rock star boyfriend yeah okay and gets away with it
yeah oh so now she's numero uno when it comes to like yeah suspects yeah like that is a pretty big
that's a red flag you know yeah uh so they're like okay this could be it okay so um they bring her in
yeah to question her and they get newman yeah way in night yeah Newman from Seinfeld
That's just a nice little...
Bairnabir, yeah.
That's a nice little, like...
Yeah, he did some decent acting work, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
So, what happens first is, they're like,
we're going to bring her in,
and they're like, I don't know,
it just seems like she's a rich girl,
like she can hire the best lawyers in the world.
Yeah.
And, you know, it might be too obvious.
Right.
Would a woman who wrote a book
about killing a rock star,
then kill a rock star?
Well, they don't think so.
They're kind of like, hmm, what should we do?
Yeah.
But Wayne Knight's like, let's do it.
Let's bring her in.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, good old Newman.
Yeah, okay.
So Michael Douglas comes over.
I know some Michael Richards.
Kramer shows off.
And they have a scheme.
So Michael Douglas comes along to pick up Sharon Stone, right?
Okay.
And when she's getting ready, she just gets naked, like basically in front of him.
Yes.
And then she puts on a white dress.
Yeah.
And from memory, I'm like, that's the white dress she wore when she shows her vagina.
So we're going to get to the vagina, you know?
Yeah, it's coming.
I actually wrote my notes, like, we're going to get to the vagina in anticipation.
I forget where it is now.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see it.
So they're bringing down the questioner, okay?
And they ask her about her new book.
Yeah.
And her new book is about a detective who falls in love about a woman, and then she kills him.
Oh.
Yeah.
Okay.
And, you know, Michael Douglas is like, hmm.
Something's not sitting right with the Michael Douglas.
This woman talks about murder.
Okay.
so um she says she they bring her in for questioning she's like the cigarette yeah and uh what
she says she's something like uh you can't smoke and they say you can't smoke it here and she's like
what are you going to do arrest me yeah yes to yes the cat yeah but uh so what they just let her smoke
yeah she's sharing stove now that that comes back later on okay that's why i mentioned it so uh
she says she's not in the hide and when she's um being interviewed she this is famous thing now
yeah she crosses her leg
yes and you see her vulva yeah you see her vulva
and the men are all like whoa
they're kind of they just and then
because she kind of crosses her legs like you know
it's a second it's like a second so like everyone kind of like
wait what was that and then a little alarm goes off in the background
pussy alarm pussy alarm
but so they're kind of like did we just see that
let's just carry on now I think that's like kind of like female
people have argued this as well not just me
that's kind of like a female empowerment
kind of thing of like showing off your body
and all the men are weak
yeah and they're just like
yeah yeah because they do
very kind of lear at her
yeah now what's weird is during
the interview uh nick's
he doesn't even care he's seen pussy before
yeah yeah he's like you took more
than that to trick old Nick you know yeah
the only thing it gets up hard now is shooting
tourists
which you know they had no pussies there but they're saying
well speaking of that killing tourist thing
she seems to know a lot about Nick
the Sharon Stone character she's
she even goes like
I've read your file
and he's like
why do she read
how would she even know
about me
yeah
yeah
and then she's like
they're a fucking
cocaine Nick
and he's like
oh
yes
yes I have
yeah
why you've got some
I did more than just fuck
you ever shoot
a tourist on cocaine
make you feel like
God
Brandon
yeah
so she knows a lot
about Nick
yeah
and she's just saying
like she fucked
the rock star for research purposes there's no way she could
done it she wouldn't be never that dumb
yeah to do it you know yeah
um she's very like cool
and collected throughout the interview like they try to
rattle her but she's very like yeah whatever
yeah you know um
so then just bring her home
so like ah I guess we have nothing on you
so we're just going to bring you home
and Michael Douglas just drives her home
and then she like um
decides she takes off her shoes and runs
barefoot in the rain to her house
and a real kind of Tarantinoy kind of
show of like her
like her feet
which I think
symbolism wise
that's supposed to
like the care free
aspect of it
yeah
yeah
so Nick is like
after this is like
God this broad
got my head rattled
yeah
you know
I've seen pussy
and she
I don't know what
you know you see a pussy
you gotta go to the bar
so Nick goes to the bar
and he meets his friend
he meets a few friends
actually okay
and he decides
have a few drinks
why not
yeah yeah
but guess what
as he said a few drinks
the therapist walks in.
Roe Row.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Oh, man.
Yeah.
Buzzkill.
And he actually gets in the fight with all people.
You know Daniel von Bargan?
No.
He's the...
Oh, wait.
Was he in Starship Troopers?
He was, but he's best known
for the younger kids to listen to this.
He was the...
You know when they went off
the military school
in Malcolm Middle?
Yes.
Ah.
You know, the head of the military school.
The sergeant, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's got like a hook for a hand.
yeah yeah so he um um um um
is another cop or detective something like that
yeah and they don't seem to get along him and michael douglas
they get in a bit of a fight right and the therapist has to like bring him away like
oh you two were acting like kids i'm gonna bring you home yeah and michael douglas's like i know
what's gonna happen when you bring me home yeah yeah he knows yeah so then they go home
and have some very rough sex i remember this scene he like the one image that's i remember
is like he sort of like violently
rips her tights. Oh yeah
yeah. It's almost, is there a bit of a
like she's not into it at first?
She says no. She says no. Okay, yeah.
So I knew there was definitely, again,
I was 14 and consent wasn't
a thing back then, so you know.
It wasn't, no, no, no, no. Consent wasn't a thing
until, uh... Well, nobody asked me, I'll tell you that much.
When the show Girls aired in HBO.
That's when it...
Thank you, Judd Appetard.
So, yeah, that's some very
rough sex. He's like pushed her against the water.
like pushing her face against the wall and stuff.
He's very rough.
Yeah, almost if he's taking down some anger on someone else.
Okay.
See, she should have let him beat up that guy, you know?
Yeah.
I'm not, I'm not, I'm not.
No, I'm not.
Just, you don't want an angry guy.
You don't take the guy when he's angry.
Yeah, he wanted to be up that guy, Daniel von Berger.
Yeah.
Which, by the way, know his story?
No.
He shot himself in the head.
Is that right?
Yeah, it's a pretty fucked up story.
So apparently he lost his leg to diabetes.
Not just foot, leg
And he wasn't doing too well
So he just shot himself in the head
And he survived
And there's a 9-1-1 call
That I listened to years ago
I'm not going to listen to now
Of him like, it's on TMZ of all places
Oh my God
Yeah, of him like
I was spat in my eyes
I did that, I'm sorry
That's okay
Yeah
I got Chlamydia in the eye
No, you'd be grand
Just in the eye
Oh no
I'm genuinely
concerned now
No you'd be good
alright
you're okay
I don't
know what I can
kiss them
on Clemidian
and be kind of
okay
like
just be an extra careful
we'll see
we'll see
I'm back to this guy
suicide
yeah
he shot himself
in the head
all right
right
but he survived
so he actually
called the police
and be like
and you can hear
the phone call
yeah
do you just worry
about your eye
I really am
sorry
I could feel it
moving
alright
so you can hear
you listen to
this phone call
you said
I have in the past
yeah
did you
It's on TMZ
I was just a big fan
of Malcolm Middle
so
A better way
to enjoy
Yeah
But he seems kind of like
I assume if you shot
yourself in the head
You'd be all like
Bluh
Yeah
Like that
But he's more kind of like
A loo
Like shot myself
In the head
Yes I'll hold
Yeah
There's
There's blood everywhere
Sorry
Do do do
Do do
Do you
So
He's just like
there's blood everywhere
I feel sleepy
you know
he seems very calm
about the whole thing
right okay
Jesus that's weird
so anyway
yeah
they have
rough sex
okay back to this
film
yeah
we're having rough sex
yeah
they have rough sex
and Nick comes
very quickly
yeah
like real quickly
and just lie down
and then she leaves
he doesn't even like
finger or anything
is that what you
is that your
if I come too quick
yeah
oh right
you all do something else
she didn't get off at all
no
well to be honest
from what I remember
it being so rough she's probably just glad it's over
which didn't seem like she was enjoying
I don't know no yeah no
uh god
uh
he really like just like him lying on the floor
just lying the floor she gets up and leaves
like you're an asshole or something like that
yeah I don't know she's like you weren't making love to me
oh yeah that wasn't love
that was you trying to fuck Daniel von Berger
so Nick
put his pants on
and
let me just see here
putting his pants back on
I like that as well
because you don't let me see that like
The awkward after
Yeah it looks kind of awkward as well
Because on the floor
He's like you're going to pull it up
Like you have to lift his torso a bit weird
Yeah
It's kind of like it feels like you know
Nick's one normal guy
You know
Yeah
It captures that little moment of shit
Yeah after he rapes someone he is
He puts his pants on one leg at a time
Oh my God
I'm just trying to find out what I roll here
He watches
He drives to another place
He starts following Nicole Kidman around
Nicole Kidman
Oh
Sharon Stott
Yeah yeah
And Nicole Kedman
Played the TriStar Horse
So basically okay
So that sex wasn't good enough
So he decides he's going to start following Sharon Stone around
And watching her
Yeah
Because that's not weird
Watching her through windows and stuff like that
Well, I mean, he's a detective, I guess, but it's still creepy, you know.
She's a suspect in a murder case, but it's still kind of pervy.
Yeah, so he eventually's like, oh, I need to go to talk to her again.
Yeah.
Sharon Stone.
So he goes to her place, and guess what?
She's got, like, newspaper headlines all over the place.
Newspaper, like, uh, yeah, yeah, of his past.
Of his tourist shootings.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
With the words, like, killer cop and tourist shooting.
Yeah.
You know?
Uh, and she's stabbing ice when ice.
pick as she's talking to him
and they use an ice pick
at the start of the film
to kill the rock star
oh that's right
you said it was a knife
it was actually a nice pick
yeah I fucked up
okay
well good thing we caught that
yeah
my two mistakes
were giving you
chlamydia
and he's like
still following her
like they keep having
like he's being up
there and have like
kind of banter and stuff
like that
kind of like flirty banter
yeah
and he follows her
somewhere else
and it seems like she kind
knows she's being followed
she's a little chase
sometimes
like she's drive up
and then like...
Oh, okay.
She's kind of playing with them all the other.
Yeah, yeah.
Cat and mouse.
Cat and mouse.
And it turns out Sharon Stone was a friend called Hazel.
She visits sometimes.
Okay.
Guess what Hazel did.
What did Hazel do?
Kill their children and husbands.
Jesus.
Yeah.
Now that's something they never really go into.
She just likes hanging out with Hazel.
Is Hazel old?
Yeah, Hazel and old lady.
Oh, so she did time and she's out of time?
Yeah, yeah.
How many years did she get for murder in her entire family?
Oh.
A tree
She's obviously a Democrat
Typical
I don't know actually
Didn't really go into that like
She's as old
So I assume she probably did it back in the day
Yeah
Yeah
She right did it like during the moon landing
This is so boring
Yeah
Um
Do they say how she did it?
Knife I think
Knife, eh
Not ice pick I don't think
I don't think it'd be that crazy
That's a little bit too on the nose
Yeah
a lot of this film's just Michael Douglas is going back and forth
that's why I'm looking over the notes now it's like what
it's like a lot of it's like he drives to the house they talk
she goes this house they talk
after a while we meet Sharon Stone's lesbian girlfriend
Roxy who we met earlier
and Roxy seems like a tough lady
Yeah you don't want to mess with Roxy
she'll knock your block off
and eat your wife's pussy better than you ever could
yeah um
they're banging
they're banging yeah
yeah
and they seem to be like an open
kind of like anything
goes kind of relationship
right right
do they get Jerry
from
like me
Jerry watch
while we fuck
that'd be great
if Jerry was just in the background
going like
can I
uh
can I at least sleep
can I at least sleep in a bed
all right
so
yeah
um
they're very open
they're and they all know
about his past
yeah
even the fact like
he might be on cocaine
when he shot those people
Well, it was probably a big news story, I imagine.
It was, but it's very surprisingly still a cop.
But they ever really...
This is the 90s as well, like, you know?
I assume those tourists were not from, like, a white country.
Ah, of course.
Yeah, yeah.
You know?
Yeah, yeah.
That's a sad fact of, like...
That's America's problem.
That's not us.
Well, we contribute to...
So, like, he's like...
Someone must have read my file,
because they know about him killing the tourists.
That's hard to cover up.
Yeah.
But I don't know about him being on coke at the time.
Okay.
She's like someone must have been through my private files
Right, right, okay
And only access to that was the therapist
Oh
So he goes to the therapist, she said
Oh yeah, someone was looking through your files there
Daniel von Berger
Oh, because he was a cop
Yeah, yeah
He has access to that shit
Yeah, yeah, yeah
So then he gets in a bit of a fight
With Daniel in the office like
Which you don't want to do like
No
You work in office
I do, yeah
And no, they look down on it
When you beat people up
Well, depending on the person
And nobody minds when they do
it to me, but when I try and turn the tables, hey, get out of here, you, your little
raps, tell you and that, you think you're getting away with that over here.
I fucking hate that guy.
Then you often kill some tourists.
Okay, so they send them home.
You're like, Nick, you're going crazy here.
You're clearly on the drink again.
You smell like a fucking brory.
Go home.
So Nick goes home, and he watches the Jeffersons.
Of course he does.
Yeah.
Why not?
That's just in the background.
like like um what's funny is so the therapist comes over and she's like you know oh you know
you you're really you need to sort your life up okay yeah when the background they're playing
moving on up moving on up moving on up which definitely's intentional like yeah okay so she
leaves and then he starts watching hellraiser okay yeah yeah the moot yeah pinhead or whatever
yeah yeah yeah yeah so that's something there there's some kind of symbolism
there.
Okay.
What's the
symbolism?
I don't know.
The director is Dutch,
but there's
something there
like Jefferson's
to Hellraiser.
Yeah.
Think about it.
Oh,
I don't want to think
about it.
I don't like
for that could lead,
to be honest.
Okay.
So he's trying to watch
that.
Wait,
can I actually think?
Or is that just...
Oh, no.
Well, I actually
do think it's like,
obviously, like,
Jefferson represents
like, kind of happy
kind of fun thing,
okay?
And moving on up
is clearly, like,
done for dramatic
irony of like, she's talking about your life's on the shit
and they have like that. Moving on off, yeah. And then
Hellraiser signifies like, uh... It's all
going to hell, like you're all going to get bad.
Yeah, it's like the dramatic irony. Yeah.
And also, because as he's watching Hellraiser gets a phone call,
fucking Daniel von Braun,
and I swear to God it's true, has been shot
on the head.
While driving.
They show his head to stare like on the steering wheel
while holding it. Jesus Christ. Yeah.
Now, did he shoot him, the shooting himself, did that happened before?
after or basic instinct you think he's trying to get in the character oh I don't
know what well happened like 2006 oh happened back when when TMZ was really
big oh okay and so bad because like in the video it actually have like that
I suppose trying to do when I spit in your face like yeah TMZ yes it's in the game
oh so you think what for honan or whatever it's called is foreshadowing I think so
you know what's interesting as well so for this I can't
and a half like was like should I listen to it again and I looked on YouTube for like
for a front of Braun 9-11 call and it's been taken down off YouTube still on
YouTube but the first video comes up is a guy it's like a one-minute video of some
random guy going like a hey I just heard about Dan Yvonne it's like a YouTuber guy
okay hey I heard this crazy thing about that guy from Malcolm Middle shot himself
and you can hear like the footage listen to it pretty crazy so anyway what do you guys
think, like, comment,
subscribe.
So that's in six,
when you really didn't have to try very hard.
He's on my computer.
That's how I get my news.
All right, so back to the movie.
Yeah, so he's dead.
Yeah.
And Nick, Michael Douglas just had to fight with him in the office,
so everybody's going to be like,
did you do it, Nick?
Yeah, so guess what?
His defense is, you think I'd kill a man
right after to fight with him in the office?
which is like the Sharon Stone's defense, okay?
And then he lights a cigarette,
and they're like, Nick, you can't smoke it here.
And he's like, what are you going to do, arrest me?
Oh.
Yeah, so you kind of see, like, she's starting to, like...
Yeah, get in his head and...
Yeah.
But the therapist stands up for him.
She's like, Nick didn't do it.
I was with him the whole time.
He raped me.
Yeah.
He's like, oh, da, da, da, da, da, listen to the first part.
This is almost that second part.
She's only half crazy.
That'd be great, that'd be great.
She's like, and he was with me the whole time.
He stands up, yes.
Believe everything.
she says
he also
raping
you don't bitch
disqualify everything
so he gets
he gets interrogated
it's a parallel
to Sharon Stone
he's put on leave
for like you can't be detective anymore
shooting tourists is one thing
this guy was
and Malcolm in the middle
have some respect
who was the brother
the older brother
that he liked
Francis?
Francis, yeah
him and Francis
is a special
but an almost
fatter son bond
that you wouldn't understand
you know
Francis is a brother
of Chris Masterson
who played Hyde
and that's how in the show
oh
yeah yeah
and he got accused of
yeah of rape
it always comes back
he was in a show
called the ranch
but the show goes on
even though his character is in there
like his character like he's on vacation
and he's not coming back
it's like mash
so I know he's on
he's on leave's like what am I going to do
I know I'm going to go to a bitching nightclub
and hang out with Sharon Stone
oh why not
so this is a great little scene
it's kind of like to start a blade
where it's like this crazy nightclub
it's like boom boom boom boom boom boom
boom everybody let's talk about sex baby let's talk about you and me like it's a real
bopping nightclub okay it's heaven um and he looks like such a narc walking around
like like he walks around like a terminator like uh like scanning everything like yeah yeah and
he sees charin stone she's in a toilet doing coke like a boy and a girl like a lad and a woman
like he's just kissing all of them just like having a great time yeah yeah so anyway he meets
charon stone she just starts grinding on him straight away and roxy's looking and then roxy starts
going as some guy and it's almost like
they're like making eye contact, the two girls make eye contact
going like, yeah, you jealous
are you? And yeah, you're more jealous, okay?
But I think
Jerry's in the corner
getting nothing. Oh,
crumbs.
Turn their music down. It's so
loud. Yeah, they do a lot of weird
faces in this, like if they're portraying
jealousy, a lot of like, hmm,
right, like a lot of like,
their faces actually make, like,
if this is this, the audio represents
of their face like
hmm like it's like
if you get me like
yeah yeah
but you know what
Nick
turns her
makes her like go
on the straight side
for that night
what do you mean
they go back to her house
oh he bangs her
Michael Douglas
fucks Sharon Stone
in a room with like
a mirror in the ceiling
on the ceiling
I remember that part of it
yeah
would you like that
no
just to see loneliness
reflected back at me every night
no
Like, when you're having sex, that's great.
When you're on your own, just wanking.
Why do I look like this?
What an awful image.
Horrible, horrible.
Just fucking, like, slowly pulling it.
And you're like, fuck you as you look up.
And eventually, the only thing that'll get you hard is your own reflection.
Oh, Jesus.
So, yeah, mirror on the ceiling while they're banging.
Yeah, it's great.
It's very hot and heavy.
It's hot, like.
It's very hot.
She ties them up.
Yes, I remember that part.
And you do a bit of playing with you.
like she's reached under the bed for something
you're like oh my god you're going to stab him
oh no it's going to end early oh no
Michael Douglas
and then she whips out a big dildo and he's like
get the ice pick
go on sorry
no
she falls down top of him like
yeah yeah as if she doesn't actually
grab anything she comes so hard she decides
not to stab on Mike
that's what you got to do
if you don't want them to murder you
yeah make them come so afterwards
you know she falls asleep
Michael Douglas is walking around
naked very confidently around
it's not his house
and he meets Roxy okay
and Roxy's in the gap
yeah and Roxy's giving him some shit
like she doesn't really love you
and he's like can't give her a fuck you know
yeah yeah okay
and he just walks away all naked
no I remember this
because there's this one line
that he said to her it's like
I think she's the fuck of the century
that's it yeah he says that to Roxy
doesn't he yeah yeah yeah as the like
fuck you a banged your misses kind of thing
which is a great thing to say yeah pretty you
hope to be in that situation someday she was the fuck of the century she was 12
Brian you're going to jail yeah damn you got me on a technicality you got me on a
that it wasn't for those messy kids
kids
I don't know
I've confessed
I can't
I don't know I'm laughing
I don't want to hear us just laugh
Oh no sorry
So he talks to Sharon Stone afterwards
Outside by a fire
And they're getting kind of romantic about it
Yeah
Yeah yeah they're kind of lying about the fire
Yeah and he's still like
You know I still think you did it
Oh my God you were the fuck of
century you know
yeah yeah yeah so like okay so then
Nick goes off to meet his friend
Gus in what really looks like a gay
club like a gay cowboy
kind of club like it's those clubs
were like everyone's dressed up as cowboys
Is Gus a cop? Yeah he's a friend of his yeah
Gus is a kind of fat cop
Gus is the Jerry
of Basic Instinct
Okay
Just the likeable guy that it's not going to end up well for him
Okay right right
Yeah
Um
And it's in a gay nightclub?
No, it's not, it's just a cowboy club.
Oh, but because of tradition, um, I'm just so used now to, like, thinking cowboy means gay.
Okay.
That's what are they, like, line dancing and shit?
It's like a good old boy's kind of war.
Yeah, they're all wearing cowboy hats in me, yeah, yeah.
And Gus is a bit drunk, and they're talking with the case, and he's like, I can't believe you fuck the suspect's like, yeah, you know what?
She was the fuck in a sense.
He's like, you keep saying that.
Yeah.
Why do you shoot those tourists?
You know what?
Okay.
So he walks home after that
and then a car tries to run him over.
He's like, Michael Douglas now.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah.
He's like, what the fuck?
Oh, no, the car actually hits him.
Does it, yeah?
It hits him, but he does that thing
the Hollywood thing where he rolls off the car.
He's totally fine.
And he gets back up and just dust himself all.
Gee whiz.
So he jumps in the car
and starts chasing this car.
And it's like a real car.
chase, like,
d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-chart chase,
you know?
Okay, yeah.
That's the actual music they play.
So he's, like, chasing the car down the street.
Yeah.
Car goes wild, goes off the Slaver Road.
Oh, shit.
Smashes into, like, the bomb of this,
it's a great big fall, okay?
Hit the bomb.
Michael Douglas runs down.
A nice little run, I have to say.
Yeah.
You should watch it.
Like, he kind of runs down this very steep place.
Oh.
I don't think it's a double.
I think Michael Douglas went for it.
And he just went for it.
Yeah, yeah.
And you kind of going, like, geez, you might fall over there.
Yeah, yeah, it's particularly steep
Yeah
That's the thing that impressed you most about the film
Really, yeah
That was more impressed than the vagina, I think
So that vagina ran down a hill
We could talk
Now, if Sharon Stone would run down a hill
And then open her legs
Yeah
Okay, so who's in the car
Roxy
Oh
The lesbian lover
Yeah, or she might not be lesbian
But like the lover of Sharon Stone
Who's jealous, the jelly levy
The jelly lezzy
Jelly leasy
Yeah, okay
yeah okay yeah um she's dead okay and my dog is like my god okay so next scene okay
does he buy her in she was the fuck of his injury no the next scene he's called the police
but he's just acting like uh yeah i just found his car here i don't know i don't you know oh he doesn't
say that he tried to hit him right now no he doesn't mention that but he does say he knows her
which is like you know kind of like at this day just say like she tried to kill you yeah yeah exactly
yeah and we see this is kind of funny scene we see them
lifting her out
in a black bag
but it's very wobbly
okay yeah
like I assume like
for the shot
the woods had a straight thing
yeah
but it looks like
Fair Holbin just smacked it
before they start filming
so it's wobbing all the place
but it looks like
Rocky's gonna fall out of it
um
so I don't know
he just drives back
there's a lot of driving
back and four in this movie
yeah I'm starting to get bored here
he drives back to Sharon Stonehouse
to have sex again
okay
Because, you know...
Why not?
When your lesbian lover dies.
Yeah, you need to.
What's the first thing you do?
Now he's so pussy-struck, as one detective's say.
He's starting to doubt that she even did the murder.
Yeah, okay.
He's like, no, who could it be, all right?
And then after they have sex, okay, like the next day he meets Hazel.
The old woman?
The old woman.
He murdered her family.
Yeah.
And he's like, why are you hanging out with Hazel?
She's like, I just like hanging with fucked up people who've killed.
That's why I like you, Nick.
And Nick's like, oh, roast battle.
Jeff Ross shows up.
Yeah.
And now, here's the next big twist.
I'm going to skip some stuff here because it's dumb.
Like, the hazel stuff does no need for that.
Remember the therapist used to date?
Yeah.
Turns out she knew Sharon Stone back in college.
Oh.
And she slept with her.
Oh, wow.
Yeah.
Sharon Stone gets around
Turns out
The therapist experimented
But she didn't want people
To know that
Because it's kind of embarrassing
You can't get a medical degree
Then if they know you did that
Yeah
It's the 90s
Yeah
If you've even touched the woman's hair
If you've even touched the woman's hair
So they banged
Sharon Stone and the therapist banged
Yeah
And then like it's kind of a bit
Where like he's going back and forth
To a therapist Charon
And Sharon Stone's going like
Oh she was crazy
He was a psycho in high school
Like she copied me all the time
The therapist is like
Sharon Stone was psycho
In college, wherever
Like she copied me all the time
So like I'm watched it's going
Like I don't know what to believe
Yeah
You don't know who's telling the truth
Yeah
I'm interested in the plot
Okay
It's almost as if this is intentional
So he's like
Oh no
What we're going to do
He does a bit research to the therapist
Turns out her husband got shot in the head
Oh
Remember who else got shot in the head?
Daniel von Berger
In reality and
In fiction
She tells him
She tells him
God a lot
I'm just looking through the notes
I should have read through his notes more
A lot of just like Hazel shows up
She leaves stuff like that
Nick's sad now
He's confused
He's no what to do
So he decides like
I'm going to ask an impartial person
Okay
The college roommate of the two of them
okay see what she says
about the whole thing okay
so this is a character
we've never met before
yeah yeah so Sharon Stone
the therapist lived together
and this girl live with both of them
oh maybe did she just knew them all
okay yeah
but she knew both of them okay
yeah yeah
um so he goes with Gus
remember Gus the fat guy
yeah the cowboy
yeah yeah yeah so they drive over
to interview the college
roommate yeah
and they're like we're gonna get to the bottom
this okay my head's topsy tervie
I don't know what's going on anymore
I just want to chill out
and shoot a few tourists you know and but gus is like hey look you're on leave all right
you shouldn't even be with me okay you stay in the car I'm gonna go up to the building
yeah and I'm gonna interview this uh lady okay Gus goes up on his own all right and there's a
real like tense show like him going up the stairs and didn't know the elevator yeah and like
you're like oh no something bad doesn't happen I can tell and Michael Douglas is in the car
and he sees like a woman or so a figure a figure dressed in black right he's like oh god
Gus
So he starts
Running up the stairs
Yeah
But by the time
It gets there
Poor old Gus
Has been stabbed to death
Oh no
By the figure in black
Oh wow
Yeah
So Michael Douglas is like
Jesus fuck
What's going on
He picks up
Gus's gun
Gus is dead
By the way
Yeah
Because he was stabbed to death
Yes
You said that
I just want to emphasize
For the listener
It's like
Gus is dead
Okay
Fan favorite Gus
That's why I
Compared to Jerry
From the previous episode
Right
Yeah
This is what Jerry
Wishes
That's what somebody
should do
So guess who's there, the therapist?
Okay.
And he's like, what the fuck you're doing here?
Okay, and therapist's like, oh, Gus called me.
He says he wants me to come over.
Oh.
Yeah.
And Michael Douglas is like, that sounds bullshit.
Put your hands in the air.
And the therapist is walking up to him where, fucking her hands in our pockets, fucking, like, you know.
She's like, Nick, what's going on?
What, you think I did?
Such a fucking white privilege that will, like, yeah.
just like take your hands any black guy knows take your hands out your pockets okay has Nick got his gun on
yeah yeah he's like take your he says like four different times take your hands out of your pockets
yeah he's like no why should I you know and Gus doesn't have a good track or no Nick doesn't have
good track record yeah yeah yeah like this is even more reason to shoot like those tourists didn't
have that like those tourists had their hands well up in the air so he's walking towards him
with her hand, her right hand in her pocket
going like, what, you don't think I did it, did you?
Did you?
I just getting closer and then Nick's like, fuck it and it shoots her.
You shoots her?
Yeah, shoot the therapist.
Is it a killer?
Yep.
Yeah.
I just shot her in the arm.
Yeah.
Bad Nick, you bad pup.
Guess what then?
What?
The hand comes out of the pocket, set of keys.
Oh.
Well, that's what you get, man.
If a cop tells you to take your hand out of your pocket and you don't do it,
they shoot that's how
I had no sympathy for her
no sympathy
first we find out she slept for woman
and then we find
no jokes jokes jokes
jokes yeah but like there's no
it's like such like
I wish it differently
because now we're not conflicted about it all
if it had been like she showed up
and Nick was like and shot her like
accidentally yeah yeah
that would be more like
whereas like he's kind of got just cause
but he's on leave
yeah well okay so Nick's like
oh no
I did it again
I did a boo-boo
Okay
But then he like
Seas there's a bag
Near
Like
The therapist?
Yeah
Further like down the hallway
Oh okay
A black bag
With like a black suit
And a knife
Okay
So then the rest of the police show up
And they all assume like
Oh
The therapist must have done it
And she
Nick got her
Yeah
Nick's like everybody's like
Good job
Yeah they're all like
Nick you're a hero
Just like with those tourists
Yeah
You've saved us again
You've redeemed yourself, Nick
Go on, have some blow
Just for the crack
Okay, so it's kind of like
Nick's the hero
So you think like
Oh, everything's wrapped up
In a neat little package
Okay, so Nick's like
Okay, I'm gonna go back
To Sharon Stone now
And get like, you know
I've killed
So I might as well fuck, you know
Yeah, yeah
So he goes out
He goes to meet her
And they have a nice,
nice little bit of sexy banter
You know?
Yeah
and they start having sex
and Nick's kind of like before going like
no they have sex okay
and you think she's going to reach for something
and again she comes so hard
she doesn't do it okay
and then they're hanging out with Nick's like
you know you ever think
you ever think about having kids
and settling down and you know
living happily ever after
and she's like oh I don't know Nick
maybe I do and she's reaching down for something again
and we're like oh she's going to stab Nick
oh no it's the end of the movie
at the very last second she goes
and just kisses them
oh so they did that before
yeah they do like three times
that kind of like build up like
oh oh oh oh oh oh yeah
so the movie now
nearly in the movie
like oh god my heartstrings
are going like I don't know what
I need some Xanax like yeah
they kiss on the bed
camera pans down
ice pick
okay
the end
is that it
yeah oh it's you don't actually see
I forgot that they stay together
Which is ruined in Basic Instinct 2
Which we should watch next week
Wait, but I thought Sharon Stone was the one that was doing it, no?
She must to be, yeah
I think the ice pick signify she was the one kill him
Oh, but I don't know, I don't remember
I thought he'd like killed her or something
But no, I guess not
They did a sequel, didn't it?
Yeah
Michael Douglas is not the sequel because he had a...
A career?
Yeah, and also he got cancer from eating Catherine
Dieter Jones's pussy
Yes
Which is true
Well that's what he said
He was bragging about that
Yeah
Okay so
Oh fuck
That's a kind of
Anticlimactic
A little bit there
A little bit yeah
Yeah
And the end
You're missing something
Because he kind of wants
Some cumuppance
Yeah
For both Nick
And Sharon Stone
Yeah
He just shot an innocent woman
And she's murdering
Flat out
Huh
That's weird
Weird ending
Yeah
So anyway
Like
You've heard my
description is there any part of you that goes like i want to watch this again i kind of do to be honest
i downloaded it to watch it but i just didn't get around to it but i probably will watch it yeah
but like you know if i watch it in here it's just gonna sound like i'm watching porn because there's a
lot of sex there's a lot of very loud sex yeah i was turning the volume up and down a lot
and i was watching it yeah because i live with a lot like um i live with like six other people
yes you do so um those walls are papered in like i know yeah and it's kind of hard
to tell him, like, they're like, are you watching porn?
Like, it's Paul Verkhoven's masterpiece.
I have a podcast.
Get on.
I swear she's going to stand my ice pick any second.
It's okay.
Then you do a Gaza and kiss her, just try to calm her down.
Kiss some fat lass.
As I drink my whiskey-flavored milk.
You ever hear of a whiskey sour?
Yeah.
So, we'll wrap this up in a minute.
That was the film.
But the final thing I want to talk about is the screenwriter.
Okay.
So the screenwriter, I have his name written down here.
Joe Estavaz.
Because that's Joe Esther.
Joe E-S-Z-T-E-R-H-A-S.
Joe Esther.
Esteraz.
Just call him Joe.
Okay, so Joe's the writer of this screenplay.
Yeah, Joey Screenplay.
Joey Screenplay.
Hey, Joey Screenplay.
What do you do for our living?
I'm a baker.
Oh, I see.
Fattered, high hopes.
You better go out there
and you better write a screenplay.
No, that?
So, Joey screenplay then.
So he's the writer.
Joey screenplay wrote this.
He wrote a few other big films.
Yeah.
Showgirls, one of them.
He's big into his erotic thrillers.
Yeah, okay.
I get the feeling from him.
He kind of writes, like,
about big tits and murder.
Yeah.
And then Paul Vertova's one is like,
I'm going to try class this up a bit,
make his mark.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
Joe was known for a long time
is before
Basic Instinct
he wrote a script
a spec script
about the President
of America
having sex with a cow
Oh my God, what?
And it got sent around
a lot
and apparently
like Kubrick and
who else
Steven Spielberg
a few other people
were like big fans of it
Are you serious?
They're all like
We're never going to make it
Oh wow
According to Joey
Now Joey screenplay
Kubrick even
sent him a message
going like
Loved it
Wow
That's a fuck
There's no way to be able to film this.
That's quite an endorsement.
Yeah, yeah.
Man, I really want to read it now.
Because you said, when you said, you know,
president of sex with a car, I'm like, what the fuck, that's mental?
But Kubrick's like, I love it.
Yeah.
Are you sure they weren't, like, fucking with him?
Like, Kubrick and Spielberg's like, hey, it's awesome.
We love it.
I just can't make it, unfortunately.
Maybe Joe is a bit slow.
Do you like my screenplay?
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
Yes.
It's not being some real life, is it?
I'm the president
So he was a bit of a name for himself
He was making a lot of big money
Especially after basic instinct came out
Oh everyone wanted him like
But you know who else wanted him
Who?
Mel Gibson
Ah
So this is around 2000
This is after Mel Gibson's big
Kind of public meltdown
When he was in disgrace
When people
Mean people were saying he's anti-Semitic
Yeah
mean
you know
cold
hearted people
mean greedy people
control everything
we're saying this
okay
and they also said
he called the woman sugar tits
just because he called the woman sugar tits
so Mel
Gibson comes to him
and he wants to do
what he's described
as like
a redemption piece
okay
so he wanted to do a movie
about a Jewish guy
okay right
it was basically
Jewish Braveheart
that's the way
he pitched it
Jewish Braveheart
yeah
okay
so it's actually
there's a Jewish
folklore about this guy
who like rose up
and like
you know
did something
I think
somehow it's connected
to Hanukkah
okay
is it like
when they were enslaved
or whatever
something like that
yeah
yeah
something like that
yeah it's a real
like you know
Jewish
kind of like
yeah
yeah
fucking
wooha hooha
you know
yeah
so
he went to
Joey Estabez, Joey Weber's name
Joey, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
He was like, we're going to work on this together.
Okay.
And, you know, Joe's kind of like, well, you've got history
anti-Semitism, and I'm a very proud Jew,
but you're offering me
a lot of money, and I actually kind of
like you, you know, he seemed likable.
Yeah. I'm going to give you a chance.
Okay. And apparently, it was
just six months of hell then,
them trying to do the screenplay together.
It was insane, and he said,
at the second, like, he agreed to it,
metal just changed. Like, he had the nice,
nice like hey go on it's work together
and after that it was like every second word was like
cock sucker or
F-beep T
oh really okay okay yeah yeah yeah yeah
F maggot
yeah that's what I yeah it was all
it was all cocksucker
and homophobic slurs are worse than cock sucker
yeah and then like he called
Jewish uh he called Holocaust
Survivors uh oven dodgers
Jesus Christ
yeah and it's like he was constantly he said basically
his mission was
to make the film so good he can
virtues to Christianity
Wow
and he was constantly
talking about how God
wants him to do this
Are you serious?
Yeah everything he did
was because God wants him
do this
Jesus Christ
Yeah
Was he like on Coke
Mel?
Is that in the book?
I think Mel
I haven't read the full book
now I'm going to read
I'm going to buy it on
Kindle
Because yeah
Did you mention that
Joey Screamblade
went on and wrote a book
about him
Yeah yeah
He wrote a book
called Heaven and Mel
Yeah
Heaven and Mel
It's a good title
Yeah about his time
with a
Mel Gibson, yeah.
It sounds interesting, though.
So, yeah, so back to Mel and so they're hanging out
and he's just been really...
Yeah, he's basically...
He's been insane, like,
the whole thing fell down after a while.
He was like, I can't work with you, did you.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, he was, like, he was just screaming out.
He, like, he just...
Almost sounds like bipolar.
Where he just, like, happy, happy.
Yeah, you go, man.
And then, like, you fucking cock sucker!
Really?
You fucking Jew cocksucker.
And they're like, hey, look, it.
It's all war on the bridge, man.
You forgive me, don't you?
You fucking cocksucker.
yeah that's interesting now i had a relationship like that once no uh oh no like the harm doing my dad though
he was very angry man but then like you know like two seconds there sorry about that now and then like
like literally 30 seconds you fuck a idiot and i'm like all right man one of the other relax
but anyway hey we're not here to talk about me or my many issues we're here to talk about
heaven and mel yeah so back to it that's really it like
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Okay.
Old Heaven and Mel.
I'll read the full book and I can get more.
Because there's a few things I kind of half remember,
but I don't want to slander Mel Gibson.
Do you honest, we could do a whole episode on just the Mel Gibson saga, you know?
Yeah.
Just like the tapes and everything.
Like, I know Opie and Anthony did it a bit, like, but now it's got like new chapters to it.
We can go through.
Because he's kind of back, you know?
That's the way.
He's back.
Like, he's getting, he's kind of sort of slowly coming back into the mainstream.
Even after just the, the, um,
mount of the shit he said
was just on for Google. What's the worst thing he says?
So he said, I hope
if you get raped, so
he left abusive voicemails to
his girlfriend to anyone that doesn't know.
And he says lots of crazy shit, but
one of the worst things he says, if you get
raped by a pack of N-words,
it'll be your own fault.
That's for bait on. And now we know
Mel Gibson didn't say N-word.
He didn't go like, you're going to
rape by a pack of a Barbie PC about this.
Afro-American
And, you know, if that happens, fair play to them
because Dave had a lot of injustice
Oh, Jesus Christ
I'm turning over a new leaf
You bitch
So he said that
I know he was very abusive to his wives
Yeah
So he was just like a very angry, abusive, crazy motherfucker
But now he's coming back
He's big into his anti-Jew
Jewish stuff.
Yeah, he's a big Christian,
crazy fucking Christian.
He called that woman
Sugar Tits, the police officer.
The police officer who pulled him over, yeah.
Now,
drunk driving.
That video is there of that?
Is there a video of that?
I imagine it must be otherwise.
Everyone knows Sugar Tits.
Yeah, but I think there was just
the cop said it in interview.
Could be a video, I'm not sure, to be honest, I don't know.
Yeah, well, look, wherever it is, like,
sugar tits stuck, like.
Yeah, yeah.
Now he's doing drag to, he did that film
Drag to Cost, Crunk.
dragged across concrete
did you see that
I did yeah
was it good
you know what I was going to talk about
more in the podcast
but it's actually
so much of what we already talk about
it's very race
heavy
well we could also talk about
his appearance in
Daddy's Home 2
Christmas themed family
movie
it's also very race heavy
well it's funny
like dragged across
concrete
there's a whole section
about basically like
so the film is about him
and Vince Vaughn
and they get caught
like doing some police
police brutality
and like
they're kind of like
you know
this fucking
everyone calls you
a racist
this day and like
Don Johnson
doing does a speech
was like
this day and age
everyone calls you
a racist
don't even care
if it's true or not
just this damn
social media
and journalist
just want to call
everyone
racist
and then
Mel Gibson
stares
to the camera
see
yeah
see I'm not saying
it he's saying
but you agree
with it
and that's also
in Daddy's home
yes it is
where Will Farrell
just like
you know
everybody
that's a good
Just because you say that
Just because he call him
Oven Dodgers
They all think you're any Semitic
I don't care if he runs SNL
That's what he is
There's actually a scene in it
We're like
So they live in a bad neighbourhood
Which is code for like
Yeah, yeah sure
Yeah yeah
Low income housing
And Mel Gibson's wife is like
You know I was never a racist
So I moved here
But my God I hate to
Oh my God
She said something like that
Yeah
Jesus Christ
you kind of wonder
like did Mel help out with the script a bit
because I love the guy who did it
like it's an interesting film
I won't say it's great
and you kind of wonder
about the political
undertone
especially the fact that you have Mel Gibson in it
I mean that's like
you're kind of making a statement
of you're having him
in a movie about this stuff
yeah there is something being said here
I didn't get that from the guy
it's Craig S. Ziegler
I think his name is
He did
Brawl
And Cell Block
99
And Bone Tomah
Which are both
Great films
Yeah
Which aren't that
political
Or they're not
Like maybe like
Undertones
Wasn't it's going
On neonati in that
I don't know
I haven't
No no
No no
He had a cross
But like
You know
Right
Right right
The only
Kind of bit
I was like
Hmm
There's an evil
Abortionist in it
And then a woman
shoots the abortionist
And I was thinking
Like
I suppose there might
be something there
But like
I wanted
The abortionist shot too
He was an evil one
Right
He was going to, like, do the, going to abort the baby without her permission, like.
Oh, Jesus.
Yeah.
And, you know, I, there's definitely some people who watch that going to, like, see.
They say what the H.S.C. are going to do.
Oh, wow.
Jeez, that's interesting.
So that's, like, two kind of very old, not alt-right, but even just, like, right-leaning,
conservative people would feel to be racism there, but also anti-abortion stuff there.
And even, like, Bowen Tomahawk.
I didn't get this tall, but, like, the villains are kind of, like, all, like, Native American
evil like yeah but they do the thing of like having the one native american good guy going like they're
savages oh and this is me saying that jesus all right i'm really starting to see a pattern with
this guy i need one more film to find out just to prove it like i don't like them all right
i just don't like them it's just a phone on ted talk
okay well look we're going to end it there because we're just over an hour
that was good that was good i had fun that was fun if you want to do another film yeah we
definitely should what would you do should we do something a bit more tell you what um someone's
talking recently about it chapter two yeah that's a film everyone likes okay well everyone's seen
i haven't seen it well we can watch it well we can watch it we and talk about in the show
all right yeah well wouldn't we have to do part one though we're just doing part two i think
it's funnier if we just think part two you should do that do it just do sequels yeah
we do speed two godfather two equally good in their own right i do uh sister act too basically
instinct, back in the habit. Back in the habit.
It chapter two, back in the habit.
And instead of like
a clown as Whoopi Goldberg, bites a kid's arm off.
Ted Danson makes a reappearance
in Blackface. And then two kids
like, Mr. Danson, why did you do Blackface?
Oh, come on, didn't you like Becker?
Come on.
All right, we'll end it there.
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for comedic effect yeah it's really happening let's it's good to we leave this in like yeah