Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 39 : Basic Instinct

Episode Date: October 19, 2019

Brian and James chat about the film "Basic Instinct" and talk about how great it would be to get murdered by Sharon Stone....

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Starting point is 00:00:00 and we're ready we're going here we are once again once again uh James made me some nice tea yes very nice thank you thank you James yeah I'm not having one but uh yeah well you were going to I was going to but uh the cups got mixed up and uh you don't want to have chlamydia pretty much yeah I know I felt bad pouring it down the sink I felt like I was uh I could hear your heart breaking as the because I'm kind of like why don't you want chlamydia. You don't want my Clemedia? We can be chlamydia brothers. Oh, I've tried that before. It doesn't work.
Starting point is 00:00:34 With my actual brother. Isn't there a thing of people catch AIDS on purpose, because it's so sexy? Is that a thing? No, I think it's like bug chasers. What? You've not heard of this? No. I thought it was pretty common knowledge. No. I didn't bring up because it was
Starting point is 00:00:51 like hacky on the podcast before. So yeah, there's these guys out there that like the idea of catching AIDS. Oh my God. I've not heard about this. Yeah, so they call it bug, they call, they call them bug chasers. So you're chasing the bug, you know, you're trying to get that AIDS. And why? Why do they want it?
Starting point is 00:01:08 It's so hot. Okay. I actually don't know. I think it's the kind of form of, maybe self-harm or something. There's definitely psychological aspect to me. That's not healthy. Who might judge? Bug chasers.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Speaking of bugs, we were making tea and the rotundos on downstairs. Yes, it was. We saw a C-section. You saw C-section. I didn't want to look. You know, I was, I'm a little bit squeamish. Yeah. It's a bit much, like, you know.
Starting point is 00:01:33 It's, it's okay when it's on TV and you're kind of half expecting it. If I just walked in and it was happening, you know, and I, like, I wasn't prepared for a C-section. I think it would be a little bit like, Jesus, put, kill it. Call a priest. Yeah. So, anyway, a few episodes ago, we talked about basic instinct. Yes. And I said we'll do a whole episode about it
Starting point is 00:01:59 Yeah So I watched it there this week Okay And uh You see I saw it years ago When I was like 14 So I remember bits of it But this is kind of good now
Starting point is 00:02:10 This is like This is better If we just both saw I'd be kind of boring Yeah okay So you're kind of half remembering it I only remember the sex scenes And obviously the famous
Starting point is 00:02:19 Yeah Yeah Which you'll get to We'll get to Oh we're gonna get to Yeah I've got one page So I've got four pages
Starting point is 00:02:26 a note. That's an episode of itself. One page just the word Vaj, written in very large letters. And there's load everywhere. Okay. So, we'll talk about basic instinct. Explain a little bit first. All right. It came out in the 90s. Yeah. It was a big deal. It was very famous, very quickly, for that famous shot.
Starting point is 00:02:47 Which, if you don't know, we'll get to, actually. Yeah, we'll get to. So it starred Michael Douglas. Michael Douglas and Sharon Stone. Yeah, two big movie stars. Yes. Directed by Vaught Paul Vertovin A Dutch filmmaker who has done Robocop and Starship Troopers
Starting point is 00:03:02 Oh so yeah I like both those films Yeah yeah so Yeah you're like This fuck can't wait for this And I'm actually Now I went in this Expect to make fun of it
Starting point is 00:03:12 Yeah I kind of enjoyed it It's pretty I remember enjoying it too It's like a sexy Murder Mystery type film It's a well done Erotic thriller
Starting point is 00:03:21 Yeah This is a better murder mystery than the film murder mystery Starring Adam Sandler And Adam Sandler Opens his legs up And go go go
Starting point is 00:03:35 You want to see my vagina Oh he's my vagina What are you looking at You got a problem with my bushy Yeah I remember that movie Yeah it was pretty good That was more entertaining
Starting point is 00:03:51 than the actual movie That was way more entertaining the murder mystery to film which they're doing a sequel of fuck off are they? Yeah because this is the excuse to go travelling around the place Jesus Christ oh wow
Starting point is 00:04:02 well time to talk about let's not think about that no we'll talk about basic instinct so if film was a big success yeah and we'll just get into the plot okay so it opens with the tri-star horse yeah
Starting point is 00:04:15 remember that which doesn't feature in the plot but yeah no because I just remember like is you think that shot of the production company is like oh what's that horse, oh, he's up to no good. Yeah, I don't understand the concept, like, production logos.
Starting point is 00:04:28 I just think it's all the movie. I'm like, where is that, what's, what, is that the same horse from Blade Runner? Yeah, but the only reason I brought up is it was a nice little bit of, like, nostalgia. Yeah, because they're gone now, aren't they? Yeah, or they're being merged. Probably owned by Disney now or some shit, you know? Um, this is dead. So it opens up sex immediately.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Yes. this guy's fucking a girl now it's Sharon Stone I think it is isn't it or are we meant to not see who it is That's what I mean like we don't see the head Oh you just see the rocking bod Yeah the rock and bod
Starting point is 00:05:06 Yeah and she looks alright too I guess Hey Oh I'll see what I did there You may have seemed like you're gay And that's wrong It's wrong It's wrong we don't promote that We don't promote that on the podcast
Starting point is 00:05:21 We don't promote gay set on Brian and James, fuck each other. That is not the message. We are proud of us right now. Maybe gay people listen to the podcast. We don't know. We don't know. Frankly, we don't want to know. No, we love all the game people.
Starting point is 00:05:37 We want them all to listen to this. One what? I don't know. Just don't go after us. Just leave us alone, would you? We give you a parade. What more day I want? You can get married now.
Starting point is 00:05:51 Shut up, would you? Fuck out my house Hey You're a funeral buddy Okay so They're having sex Yeah The girl pulls out a fucking knife
Starting point is 00:06:03 And just kills them Yes Yeah So it's immediately Sex and murder Straight away Hits you right in the face straight and you're like
Starting point is 00:06:09 Fucking hell Yeah Fucking hell What's going on This ain't fucking robocop Okay Enter Michael Douglas Okay
Starting point is 00:06:20 He's a detective He's a cop I think he might be a cop actually right Yeah, no, no, no, you're right, detective Okay, I don't know Hey, you watched this film I was 14 and I was just But you remember that little bit
Starting point is 00:06:32 Look, I don't know, okay, look, he's a guy Who's solved mysteries And he's a cop, yeah He's hanging out with the guys He's all around the crime scene There's a coke around He's a dead man Like, what the fuck happened here?
Starting point is 00:06:43 Let's see, One of the guys makes A joke, he says he got off Before he got off Hey, but doesn't really That doesn't work at all No, that's why I wrote it down to make sure, like...
Starting point is 00:06:54 He got off before he got off. Yeah. Yeah, that doesn't work at all. It's not great. No. That guy should workshop that. He was at second city for weeks, and that's the best he could get in up with. Anyway, so apparently this guy was a rock star and a close connection to the mayor.
Starting point is 00:07:12 Oh, okay, right. He donated a lot of stuff to the mayor, so they're like, oh, no. Right. This political, like, let's solve this case quick for the mayor, Stam's his fist on a desk. Yeah. okay so first thing you do when a guy gets killed interview his girlfriend yeah most likely suspect yes in fact i read somewhere that 80% of all relationships that doesn't sound right
Starting point is 00:07:33 i was going to say 8% of all relationships and the homicide no is it 8% of your relationship it's that or to get chlamydia then you have to kill them to silence you're like a kennedy let's go for drive ask not what chlamydia can do for For you, I only regret that you have one pussy to give. Yeah. Okay, so they go to the girlfriend's house. Yeah. And they walk in to see a girl, and she's not the girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Okay. Remember this? No. This is Roxy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. She's, like, kind of the tough... Yeah, the tough girl, okay? So we're like, oh, you want Sharon Stone.
Starting point is 00:08:17 Yeah. Catherine. Catherine. She's at the beach house. Okay. So they go to Catherine. and Catherine's smoking hot, you know? It's Sharon Stone, is it?
Starting point is 00:08:26 Yeah, yeah, Sharon Stone. She's confident. Sexy, smart. Yeah, that means evil. Oh, of course. Yeah, yeah. Say a questioner, and she doesn't seem to be phrased at all. She's like, oh, no, he's dead.
Starting point is 00:08:41 That's a shame. Did you love him? I like fucking him. You know, she's like that. Oh, yeah, she's like, yeah. She's very, yes, very open with her sexuality. Yeah. Which is a good thing, but this is the 90s.
Starting point is 00:08:53 And that was... No, no, no, no, no. Already I was like, she's bad. Oh, she's evil. I hope that horse comes and kills her. Save us, three-star horse. The evil woman. Okay, so the next scene, so they leave Dan, like, wow, what a dame.
Starting point is 00:09:10 Yeah. Yeah, well, what are you going to do? So then Michael Douglas goes to see his counsellor, all right? This is interesting. Now, it goes to counselor. Turns out he used to date the counsellor. Yeah, she's a woman. Yes.
Starting point is 00:09:22 Wait, they used to. date? Yeah. Okay, yeah, and they broke up. They're broken up and you're going to get a backstory like he's like a bit of trouble in the past. Okay, right, right. A bit of troubled man. I see. Um, they mentioned coke. Right.
Starting point is 00:09:34 They mention alcohol. And he's going like, yeah, I've been off all that shit, you know. Okay. And you're like, he's bullshit. He's, yeah, he's hitting it hard. And they also just references to the fact that like he might have accidentally in the past shot a few tourists by accident. A few. Do you ever that?
Starting point is 00:09:49 No, I don't remember. Oh, yeah. The only thing I remember is the sex scenes. Like, I was 14. That's the reason I was watching it. That's a big character motivator from Michael Douglas. Okay. He went off a bit while ago and shot a few tourists for accidents.
Starting point is 00:10:01 There's newspaper headlines. Like, Killer cop kills... Tourists? Yeah, yeah. Or, like, on Space Mountain, was it? Those cues can be frustrating. You know, uh... Wait, so he...
Starting point is 00:10:12 What's the... Did they give you more of a backstory? Uh, the only kind of mention the fact that he might be on cocaine at the time. Chief, those are tourists. Ah! I'm going back, bang, bang, back. Which sounds awesome. He gets so cocked up at, like, Disney, like, shoot some tourists.
Starting point is 00:10:32 God, that's hilarious. We just shoots a bunch of, like, I know, like, French people, like, ah, they're probably in the cartel. Ah, they're probably MS-30. Oh, Jesus. Yeah, but it sounds great, like, that taps on, like, a part of the male. You always have feminists going about, like, the toxic masculinity. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:48 And we're like, no, that's not true, but we're also, like, got to be great to kill some people. If you're a great dude Coke We'd just kill some innocence Maybe she's right But So he's at the therapist's office And he's going like You know
Starting point is 00:11:03 I've been worse since I left you Yeah She's like He actually makes a joke Where he's like She's like How's your sex like He goes
Starting point is 00:11:10 Well my hand hurts Hey See that works Yeah That's a good joke You should have done that To the rookie cop He made a joke
Starting point is 00:11:17 He's like This is like you do And he rubs his hand on his face So you can tell they still got chemistry The therapist and Michael Douglas What's his character's name? Nick
Starting point is 00:11:32 Nick, that's right Nick Yeah So we find out the girlfriend Of the murder man, the rock star Yeah And Sharon, I'll just call it Sharon Stone Sharon Stone, yeah Turns out Sharon Stone is independently wealthy
Starting point is 00:11:45 Oh Okay And she's written a book Yeah And guess what the books about a woman who kills a rock star husband or a rock star boyfriend yeah okay and gets away with it yeah oh so now she's numero uno when it comes to like yeah suspects yeah like that is a pretty big that's a red flag you know yeah uh so they're like okay this could be it okay so um they bring her in
Starting point is 00:12:12 yeah to question her and they get newman yeah way in night yeah Newman from Seinfeld That's just a nice little... Bairnabir, yeah. That's a nice little, like... Yeah, he did some decent acting work, yeah. Yeah, yeah. So, what happens first is, they're like, we're going to bring her in,
Starting point is 00:12:29 and they're like, I don't know, it just seems like she's a rich girl, like she can hire the best lawyers in the world. Yeah. And, you know, it might be too obvious. Right. Would a woman who wrote a book about killing a rock star,
Starting point is 00:12:39 then kill a rock star? Well, they don't think so. They're kind of like, hmm, what should we do? Yeah. But Wayne Knight's like, let's do it. Let's bring her in. Yeah, yeah. Okay, good old Newman.
Starting point is 00:12:50 Yeah, okay. So Michael Douglas comes over. I know some Michael Richards. Kramer shows off. And they have a scheme. So Michael Douglas comes along to pick up Sharon Stone, right? Okay. And when she's getting ready, she just gets naked, like basically in front of him.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Yes. And then she puts on a white dress. Yeah. And from memory, I'm like, that's the white dress she wore when she shows her vagina. So we're going to get to the vagina, you know? Yeah, it's coming. I actually wrote my notes, like, we're going to get to the vagina in anticipation. I forget where it is now.
Starting point is 00:13:22 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I see it. So they're bringing down the questioner, okay? And they ask her about her new book. Yeah. And her new book is about a detective who falls in love about a woman, and then she kills him. Oh. Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:34 And, you know, Michael Douglas is like, hmm. Something's not sitting right with the Michael Douglas. This woman talks about murder. Okay. so um she says she they bring her in for questioning she's like the cigarette yeah and uh what she says she's something like uh you can't smoke and they say you can't smoke it here and she's like what are you going to do arrest me yeah yes to yes the cat yeah but uh so what they just let her smoke yeah she's sharing stove now that that comes back later on okay that's why i mentioned it so uh
Starting point is 00:14:08 she says she's not in the hide and when she's um being interviewed she this is famous thing now yeah she crosses her leg yes and you see her vulva yeah you see her vulva and the men are all like whoa they're kind of they just and then because she kind of crosses her legs like you know it's a second it's like a second so like everyone kind of like wait what was that and then a little alarm goes off in the background
Starting point is 00:14:33 pussy alarm pussy alarm but so they're kind of like did we just see that let's just carry on now I think that's like kind of like female people have argued this as well not just me that's kind of like a female empowerment kind of thing of like showing off your body and all the men are weak yeah and they're just like
Starting point is 00:14:50 yeah yeah because they do very kind of lear at her yeah now what's weird is during the interview uh nick's he doesn't even care he's seen pussy before yeah yeah he's like you took more than that to trick old Nick you know yeah the only thing it gets up hard now is shooting
Starting point is 00:15:05 tourists which you know they had no pussies there but they're saying well speaking of that killing tourist thing she seems to know a lot about Nick the Sharon Stone character she's she even goes like I've read your file and he's like
Starting point is 00:15:18 why do she read how would she even know about me yeah yeah and then she's like they're a fucking cocaine Nick
Starting point is 00:15:23 and he's like oh yes yes I have yeah why you've got some I did more than just fuck you ever shoot
Starting point is 00:15:32 a tourist on cocaine make you feel like God Brandon yeah so she knows a lot about Nick yeah
Starting point is 00:15:42 and she's just saying like she fucked the rock star for research purposes there's no way she could done it she wouldn't be never that dumb yeah to do it you know yeah um she's very like cool and collected throughout the interview like they try to rattle her but she's very like yeah whatever
Starting point is 00:15:57 yeah you know um so then just bring her home so like ah I guess we have nothing on you so we're just going to bring you home and Michael Douglas just drives her home and then she like um decides she takes off her shoes and runs barefoot in the rain to her house
Starting point is 00:16:13 and a real kind of Tarantinoy kind of show of like her like her feet which I think symbolism wise that's supposed to like the care free aspect of it
Starting point is 00:16:21 yeah yeah so Nick is like after this is like God this broad got my head rattled yeah you know
Starting point is 00:16:28 I've seen pussy and she I don't know what you know you see a pussy you gotta go to the bar so Nick goes to the bar and he meets his friend he meets a few friends
Starting point is 00:16:38 actually okay and he decides have a few drinks why not yeah yeah but guess what as he said a few drinks the therapist walks in.
Starting point is 00:16:47 Roe Row. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, man. Yeah. Buzzkill. And he actually gets in the fight with all people. You know Daniel von Bargan? No.
Starting point is 00:16:56 He's the... Oh, wait. Was he in Starship Troopers? He was, but he's best known for the younger kids to listen to this. He was the... You know when they went off the military school
Starting point is 00:17:07 in Malcolm Middle? Yes. Ah. You know, the head of the military school. The sergeant, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's got like a hook for a hand. yeah yeah so he um um um um is another cop or detective something like that
Starting point is 00:17:21 yeah and they don't seem to get along him and michael douglas they get in a bit of a fight right and the therapist has to like bring him away like oh you two were acting like kids i'm gonna bring you home yeah and michael douglas's like i know what's gonna happen when you bring me home yeah yeah he knows yeah so then they go home and have some very rough sex i remember this scene he like the one image that's i remember is like he sort of like violently rips her tights. Oh yeah yeah. It's almost, is there a bit of a
Starting point is 00:17:47 like she's not into it at first? She says no. She says no. Okay, yeah. So I knew there was definitely, again, I was 14 and consent wasn't a thing back then, so you know. It wasn't, no, no, no, no. Consent wasn't a thing until, uh... Well, nobody asked me, I'll tell you that much. When the show Girls aired in HBO.
Starting point is 00:18:04 That's when it... Thank you, Judd Appetard. So, yeah, that's some very rough sex. He's like pushed her against the water. like pushing her face against the wall and stuff. He's very rough. Yeah, almost if he's taking down some anger on someone else. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:19 See, she should have let him beat up that guy, you know? Yeah. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not. No, I'm not. Just, you don't want an angry guy. You don't take the guy when he's angry. Yeah, he wanted to be up that guy, Daniel von Berger. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:33 Which, by the way, know his story? No. He shot himself in the head. Is that right? Yeah, it's a pretty fucked up story. So apparently he lost his leg to diabetes. Not just foot, leg And he wasn't doing too well
Starting point is 00:18:45 So he just shot himself in the head And he survived And there's a 9-1-1 call That I listened to years ago I'm not going to listen to now Of him like, it's on TMZ of all places Oh my God Yeah, of him like
Starting point is 00:18:57 I was spat in my eyes I did that, I'm sorry That's okay Yeah I got Chlamydia in the eye No, you'd be grand Just in the eye Oh no
Starting point is 00:19:07 I'm genuinely concerned now No you'd be good alright you're okay I don't know what I can kiss them
Starting point is 00:19:14 on Clemidian and be kind of okay like just be an extra careful we'll see we'll see I'm back to this guy
Starting point is 00:19:20 suicide yeah he shot himself in the head all right right but he survived so he actually
Starting point is 00:19:24 called the police and be like and you can hear the phone call yeah do you just worry about your eye I really am
Starting point is 00:19:31 sorry I could feel it moving alright so you can hear you listen to this phone call you said
Starting point is 00:19:40 I have in the past yeah did you It's on TMZ I was just a big fan of Malcolm Middle so A better way
Starting point is 00:19:48 to enjoy Yeah But he seems kind of like I assume if you shot yourself in the head You'd be all like Bluh Yeah
Starting point is 00:19:54 Like that But he's more kind of like A loo Like shot myself In the head Yes I'll hold Yeah There's
Starting point is 00:20:01 There's blood everywhere Sorry Do do do Do do Do you So He's just like there's blood everywhere
Starting point is 00:20:12 I feel sleepy you know he seems very calm about the whole thing right okay Jesus that's weird so anyway yeah
Starting point is 00:20:19 they have rough sex okay back to this film yeah we're having rough sex yeah they have rough sex
Starting point is 00:20:25 and Nick comes very quickly yeah like real quickly and just lie down and then she leaves he doesn't even like finger or anything
Starting point is 00:20:31 is that what you is that your if I come too quick yeah oh right you all do something else she didn't get off at all no
Starting point is 00:20:38 well to be honest from what I remember it being so rough she's probably just glad it's over which didn't seem like she was enjoying I don't know no yeah no uh god uh he really like just like him lying on the floor
Starting point is 00:20:52 just lying the floor she gets up and leaves like you're an asshole or something like that yeah I don't know she's like you weren't making love to me oh yeah that wasn't love that was you trying to fuck Daniel von Berger so Nick put his pants on and
Starting point is 00:21:10 let me just see here putting his pants back on I like that as well because you don't let me see that like The awkward after Yeah it looks kind of awkward as well Because on the floor He's like you're going to pull it up
Starting point is 00:21:23 Like you have to lift his torso a bit weird Yeah It's kind of like it feels like you know Nick's one normal guy You know Yeah It captures that little moment of shit Yeah after he rapes someone he is
Starting point is 00:21:33 He puts his pants on one leg at a time Oh my God I'm just trying to find out what I roll here He watches He drives to another place He starts following Nicole Kidman around Nicole Kidman Oh
Starting point is 00:21:52 Sharon Stott Yeah yeah And Nicole Kedman Played the TriStar Horse So basically okay So that sex wasn't good enough So he decides he's going to start following Sharon Stone around And watching her
Starting point is 00:22:04 Yeah Because that's not weird Watching her through windows and stuff like that Well, I mean, he's a detective, I guess, but it's still creepy, you know. She's a suspect in a murder case, but it's still kind of pervy. Yeah, so he eventually's like, oh, I need to go to talk to her again. Yeah. Sharon Stone.
Starting point is 00:22:20 So he goes to her place, and guess what? She's got, like, newspaper headlines all over the place. Newspaper, like, uh, yeah, yeah, of his past. Of his tourist shootings. Yeah, yeah, yeah. With the words, like, killer cop and tourist shooting. Yeah. You know?
Starting point is 00:22:36 Uh, and she's stabbing ice when ice. pick as she's talking to him and they use an ice pick at the start of the film to kill the rock star oh that's right you said it was a knife it was actually a nice pick
Starting point is 00:22:45 yeah I fucked up okay well good thing we caught that yeah my two mistakes were giving you chlamydia and he's like
Starting point is 00:22:56 still following her like they keep having like he's being up there and have like kind of banter and stuff like that kind of like flirty banter yeah
Starting point is 00:23:01 and he follows her somewhere else and it seems like she kind knows she's being followed she's a little chase sometimes like she's drive up and then like...
Starting point is 00:23:08 Oh, okay. She's kind of playing with them all the other. Yeah, yeah. Cat and mouse. Cat and mouse. And it turns out Sharon Stone was a friend called Hazel. She visits sometimes. Okay.
Starting point is 00:23:18 Guess what Hazel did. What did Hazel do? Kill their children and husbands. Jesus. Yeah. Now that's something they never really go into. She just likes hanging out with Hazel. Is Hazel old?
Starting point is 00:23:29 Yeah, Hazel and old lady. Oh, so she did time and she's out of time? Yeah, yeah. How many years did she get for murder in her entire family? Oh. A tree She's obviously a Democrat Typical
Starting point is 00:23:41 I don't know actually Didn't really go into that like She's as old So I assume she probably did it back in the day Yeah Yeah She right did it like during the moon landing This is so boring
Starting point is 00:23:51 Yeah Um Do they say how she did it? Knife I think Knife, eh Not ice pick I don't think I don't think it'd be that crazy That's a little bit too on the nose
Starting point is 00:24:03 Yeah a lot of this film's just Michael Douglas is going back and forth that's why I'm looking over the notes now it's like what it's like a lot of it's like he drives to the house they talk she goes this house they talk after a while we meet Sharon Stone's lesbian girlfriend Roxy who we met earlier and Roxy seems like a tough lady
Starting point is 00:24:25 Yeah you don't want to mess with Roxy she'll knock your block off and eat your wife's pussy better than you ever could yeah um they're banging they're banging yeah yeah and they seem to be like an open
Starting point is 00:24:38 kind of like anything goes kind of relationship right right do they get Jerry from like me Jerry watch while we fuck
Starting point is 00:24:44 that'd be great if Jerry was just in the background going like can I uh can I at least sleep can I at least sleep in a bed all right
Starting point is 00:24:54 so yeah um they're very open they're and they all know about his past yeah even the fact like
Starting point is 00:25:00 he might be on cocaine when he shot those people Well, it was probably a big news story, I imagine. It was, but it's very surprisingly still a cop. But they ever really... This is the 90s as well, like, you know? I assume those tourists were not from, like, a white country. Ah, of course.
Starting point is 00:25:14 Yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah, yeah. That's a sad fact of, like... That's America's problem. That's not us. Well, we contribute to... So, like, he's like...
Starting point is 00:25:25 Someone must have read my file, because they know about him killing the tourists. That's hard to cover up. Yeah. But I don't know about him being on coke at the time. Okay. She's like someone must have been through my private files Right, right, okay
Starting point is 00:25:34 And only access to that was the therapist Oh So he goes to the therapist, she said Oh yeah, someone was looking through your files there Daniel von Berger Oh, because he was a cop Yeah, yeah He has access to that shit
Starting point is 00:25:47 Yeah, yeah, yeah So then he gets in a bit of a fight With Daniel in the office like Which you don't want to do like No You work in office I do, yeah And no, they look down on it
Starting point is 00:25:57 When you beat people up Well, depending on the person And nobody minds when they do it to me, but when I try and turn the tables, hey, get out of here, you, your little raps, tell you and that, you think you're getting away with that over here. I fucking hate that guy. Then you often kill some tourists. Okay, so they send them home.
Starting point is 00:26:17 You're like, Nick, you're going crazy here. You're clearly on the drink again. You smell like a fucking brory. Go home. So Nick goes home, and he watches the Jeffersons. Of course he does. Yeah. Why not?
Starting point is 00:26:29 That's just in the background. like like um what's funny is so the therapist comes over and she's like you know oh you know you you're really you need to sort your life up okay yeah when the background they're playing moving on up moving on up moving on up which definitely's intentional like yeah okay so she leaves and then he starts watching hellraiser okay yeah yeah the moot yeah pinhead or whatever yeah yeah yeah yeah so that's something there there's some kind of symbolism there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:27:02 What's the symbolism? I don't know. The director is Dutch, but there's something there like Jefferson's to Hellraiser.
Starting point is 00:27:09 Yeah. Think about it. Oh, I don't want to think about it. I don't like for that could lead, to be honest.
Starting point is 00:27:16 Okay. So he's trying to watch that. Wait, can I actually think? Or is that just... Oh, no. Well, I actually
Starting point is 00:27:23 do think it's like, obviously, like, Jefferson represents like, kind of happy kind of fun thing, okay? And moving on up is clearly, like,
Starting point is 00:27:30 done for dramatic irony of like, she's talking about your life's on the shit and they have like that. Moving on off, yeah. And then Hellraiser signifies like, uh... It's all going to hell, like you're all going to get bad. Yeah, it's like the dramatic irony. Yeah. And also, because as he's watching Hellraiser gets a phone call, fucking Daniel von Braun,
Starting point is 00:27:45 and I swear to God it's true, has been shot on the head. While driving. They show his head to stare like on the steering wheel while holding it. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Now, did he shoot him, the shooting himself, did that happened before? after or basic instinct you think he's trying to get in the character oh I don't know what well happened like 2006 oh happened back when when TMZ was really
Starting point is 00:28:11 big oh okay and so bad because like in the video it actually have like that I suppose trying to do when I spit in your face like yeah TMZ yes it's in the game oh so you think what for honan or whatever it's called is foreshadowing I think so you know what's interesting as well so for this I can't and a half like was like should I listen to it again and I looked on YouTube for like for a front of Braun 9-11 call and it's been taken down off YouTube still on YouTube but the first video comes up is a guy it's like a one-minute video of some random guy going like a hey I just heard about Dan Yvonne it's like a YouTuber guy
Starting point is 00:28:51 okay hey I heard this crazy thing about that guy from Malcolm Middle shot himself and you can hear like the footage listen to it pretty crazy so anyway what do you guys think, like, comment, subscribe. So that's in six, when you really didn't have to try very hard. He's on my computer. That's how I get my news.
Starting point is 00:29:14 All right, so back to the movie. Yeah, so he's dead. Yeah. And Nick, Michael Douglas just had to fight with him in the office, so everybody's going to be like, did you do it, Nick? Yeah, so guess what? His defense is, you think I'd kill a man
Starting point is 00:29:28 right after to fight with him in the office? which is like the Sharon Stone's defense, okay? And then he lights a cigarette, and they're like, Nick, you can't smoke it here. And he's like, what are you going to do, arrest me? Oh. Yeah, so you kind of see, like, she's starting to, like... Yeah, get in his head and...
Starting point is 00:29:42 Yeah. But the therapist stands up for him. She's like, Nick didn't do it. I was with him the whole time. He raped me. Yeah. He's like, oh, da, da, da, da, da, listen to the first part. This is almost that second part.
Starting point is 00:29:54 She's only half crazy. That'd be great, that'd be great. She's like, and he was with me the whole time. He stands up, yes. Believe everything. she says he also raping
Starting point is 00:30:06 you don't bitch disqualify everything so he gets he gets interrogated it's a parallel to Sharon Stone he's put on leave for like you can't be detective anymore
Starting point is 00:30:28 shooting tourists is one thing this guy was and Malcolm in the middle have some respect who was the brother the older brother that he liked Francis?
Starting point is 00:30:38 Francis, yeah him and Francis is a special but an almost fatter son bond that you wouldn't understand you know Francis is a brother
Starting point is 00:30:47 of Chris Masterson who played Hyde and that's how in the show oh yeah yeah and he got accused of yeah of rape it always comes back
Starting point is 00:30:57 he was in a show called the ranch but the show goes on even though his character is in there like his character like he's on vacation and he's not coming back it's like mash so I know he's on
Starting point is 00:31:15 he's on leave's like what am I going to do I know I'm going to go to a bitching nightclub and hang out with Sharon Stone oh why not so this is a great little scene it's kind of like to start a blade where it's like this crazy nightclub it's like boom boom boom boom boom boom
Starting point is 00:31:29 boom everybody let's talk about sex baby let's talk about you and me like it's a real bopping nightclub okay it's heaven um and he looks like such a narc walking around like like he walks around like a terminator like uh like scanning everything like yeah yeah and he sees charin stone she's in a toilet doing coke like a boy and a girl like a lad and a woman like he's just kissing all of them just like having a great time yeah yeah so anyway he meets charon stone she just starts grinding on him straight away and roxy's looking and then roxy starts going as some guy and it's almost like they're like making eye contact, the two girls make eye contact
Starting point is 00:32:03 going like, yeah, you jealous are you? And yeah, you're more jealous, okay? But I think Jerry's in the corner getting nothing. Oh, crumbs. Turn their music down. It's so loud. Yeah, they do a lot of weird
Starting point is 00:32:19 faces in this, like if they're portraying jealousy, a lot of like, hmm, right, like a lot of like, their faces actually make, like, if this is this, the audio represents of their face like hmm like it's like if you get me like
Starting point is 00:32:33 yeah yeah but you know what Nick turns her makes her like go on the straight side for that night what do you mean
Starting point is 00:32:43 they go back to her house oh he bangs her Michael Douglas fucks Sharon Stone in a room with like a mirror in the ceiling on the ceiling I remember that part of it
Starting point is 00:32:52 yeah would you like that no just to see loneliness reflected back at me every night no Like, when you're having sex, that's great. When you're on your own, just wanking.
Starting point is 00:33:04 Why do I look like this? What an awful image. Horrible, horrible. Just fucking, like, slowly pulling it. And you're like, fuck you as you look up. And eventually, the only thing that'll get you hard is your own reflection. Oh, Jesus. So, yeah, mirror on the ceiling while they're banging.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Yeah, it's great. It's very hot and heavy. It's hot, like. It's very hot. She ties them up. Yes, I remember that part. And you do a bit of playing with you. like she's reached under the bed for something
Starting point is 00:33:31 you're like oh my god you're going to stab him oh no it's going to end early oh no Michael Douglas and then she whips out a big dildo and he's like get the ice pick go on sorry no she falls down top of him like
Starting point is 00:33:45 yeah yeah as if she doesn't actually grab anything she comes so hard she decides not to stab on Mike that's what you got to do if you don't want them to murder you yeah make them come so afterwards you know she falls asleep Michael Douglas is walking around
Starting point is 00:33:59 naked very confidently around it's not his house and he meets Roxy okay and Roxy's in the gap yeah and Roxy's giving him some shit like she doesn't really love you and he's like can't give her a fuck you know yeah yeah okay
Starting point is 00:34:14 and he just walks away all naked no I remember this because there's this one line that he said to her it's like I think she's the fuck of the century that's it yeah he says that to Roxy doesn't he yeah yeah yeah as the like fuck you a banged your misses kind of thing
Starting point is 00:34:28 which is a great thing to say yeah pretty you hope to be in that situation someday she was the fuck of the century she was 12 Brian you're going to jail yeah damn you got me on a technicality you got me on a that it wasn't for those messy kids kids I don't know I've confessed I can't
Starting point is 00:35:07 I don't know I'm laughing I don't want to hear us just laugh Oh no sorry So he talks to Sharon Stone afterwards Outside by a fire And they're getting kind of romantic about it Yeah Yeah yeah they're kind of lying about the fire
Starting point is 00:35:24 Yeah and he's still like You know I still think you did it Oh my God you were the fuck of century you know yeah yeah yeah so like okay so then Nick goes off to meet his friend Gus in what really looks like a gay club like a gay cowboy
Starting point is 00:35:38 kind of club like it's those clubs were like everyone's dressed up as cowboys Is Gus a cop? Yeah he's a friend of his yeah Gus is a kind of fat cop Gus is the Jerry of Basic Instinct Okay Just the likeable guy that it's not going to end up well for him
Starting point is 00:35:54 Okay right right Yeah Um And it's in a gay nightclub? No, it's not, it's just a cowboy club. Oh, but because of tradition, um, I'm just so used now to, like, thinking cowboy means gay. Okay. That's what are they, like, line dancing and shit?
Starting point is 00:36:08 It's like a good old boy's kind of war. Yeah, they're all wearing cowboy hats in me, yeah, yeah. And Gus is a bit drunk, and they're talking with the case, and he's like, I can't believe you fuck the suspect's like, yeah, you know what? She was the fuck in a sense. He's like, you keep saying that. Yeah. Why do you shoot those tourists? You know what?
Starting point is 00:36:31 Okay. So he walks home after that and then a car tries to run him over. He's like, Michael Douglas now. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. He's like, what the fuck? Oh, no, the car actually hits him.
Starting point is 00:36:43 Does it, yeah? It hits him, but he does that thing the Hollywood thing where he rolls off the car. He's totally fine. And he gets back up and just dust himself all. Gee whiz. So he jumps in the car and starts chasing this car.
Starting point is 00:36:55 And it's like a real car. chase, like, d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-chart chase, you know? Okay, yeah. That's the actual music they play. So he's, like, chasing the car down the street. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:06 Car goes wild, goes off the Slaver Road. Oh, shit. Smashes into, like, the bomb of this, it's a great big fall, okay? Hit the bomb. Michael Douglas runs down. A nice little run, I have to say. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:18 You should watch it. Like, he kind of runs down this very steep place. Oh. I don't think it's a double. I think Michael Douglas went for it. And he just went for it. Yeah, yeah. And you kind of going, like, geez, you might fall over there.
Starting point is 00:37:26 Yeah, yeah, it's particularly steep Yeah That's the thing that impressed you most about the film Really, yeah That was more impressed than the vagina, I think So that vagina ran down a hill We could talk Now, if Sharon Stone would run down a hill
Starting point is 00:37:40 And then open her legs Yeah Okay, so who's in the car Roxy Oh The lesbian lover Yeah, or she might not be lesbian But like the lover of Sharon Stone
Starting point is 00:37:51 Who's jealous, the jelly levy The jelly lezzy Jelly leasy Yeah, okay yeah okay yeah um she's dead okay and my dog is like my god okay so next scene okay does he buy her in she was the fuck of his injury no the next scene he's called the police but he's just acting like uh yeah i just found his car here i don't know i don't you know oh he doesn't say that he tried to hit him right now no he doesn't mention that but he does say he knows her
Starting point is 00:38:17 which is like you know kind of like at this day just say like she tried to kill you yeah yeah exactly yeah and we see this is kind of funny scene we see them lifting her out in a black bag but it's very wobbly okay yeah like I assume like for the shot
Starting point is 00:38:33 the woods had a straight thing yeah but it looks like Fair Holbin just smacked it before they start filming so it's wobbing all the place but it looks like Rocky's gonna fall out of it
Starting point is 00:38:41 um so I don't know he just drives back there's a lot of driving back and four in this movie yeah I'm starting to get bored here he drives back to Sharon Stonehouse to have sex again
Starting point is 00:38:54 okay Because, you know... Why not? When your lesbian lover dies. Yeah, you need to. What's the first thing you do? Now he's so pussy-struck, as one detective's say. He's starting to doubt that she even did the murder.
Starting point is 00:39:12 Yeah, okay. He's like, no, who could it be, all right? And then after they have sex, okay, like the next day he meets Hazel. The old woman? The old woman. He murdered her family. Yeah. And he's like, why are you hanging out with Hazel?
Starting point is 00:39:25 She's like, I just like hanging with fucked up people who've killed. That's why I like you, Nick. And Nick's like, oh, roast battle. Jeff Ross shows up. Yeah. And now, here's the next big twist. I'm going to skip some stuff here because it's dumb. Like, the hazel stuff does no need for that.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Remember the therapist used to date? Yeah. Turns out she knew Sharon Stone back in college. Oh. And she slept with her. Oh, wow. Yeah. Sharon Stone gets around
Starting point is 00:39:56 Turns out The therapist experimented But she didn't want people To know that Because it's kind of embarrassing You can't get a medical degree Then if they know you did that Yeah
Starting point is 00:40:03 It's the 90s Yeah If you've even touched the woman's hair If you've even touched the woman's hair So they banged Sharon Stone and the therapist banged Yeah And then like it's kind of a bit
Starting point is 00:40:17 Where like he's going back and forth To a therapist Charon And Sharon Stone's going like Oh she was crazy He was a psycho in high school Like she copied me all the time The therapist is like Sharon Stone was psycho
Starting point is 00:40:29 In college, wherever Like she copied me all the time So like I'm watched it's going Like I don't know what to believe Yeah You don't know who's telling the truth Yeah I'm interested in the plot
Starting point is 00:40:40 Okay It's almost as if this is intentional So he's like Oh no What we're going to do He does a bit research to the therapist Turns out her husband got shot in the head Oh
Starting point is 00:40:52 Remember who else got shot in the head? Daniel von Berger In reality and In fiction She tells him She tells him God a lot I'm just looking through the notes
Starting point is 00:41:08 I should have read through his notes more A lot of just like Hazel shows up She leaves stuff like that Nick's sad now He's confused He's no what to do So he decides like I'm going to ask an impartial person
Starting point is 00:41:22 Okay The college roommate of the two of them okay see what she says about the whole thing okay so this is a character we've never met before yeah yeah so Sharon Stone the therapist lived together
Starting point is 00:41:32 and this girl live with both of them oh maybe did she just knew them all okay yeah but she knew both of them okay yeah yeah um so he goes with Gus remember Gus the fat guy yeah the cowboy
Starting point is 00:41:43 yeah yeah yeah so they drive over to interview the college roommate yeah and they're like we're gonna get to the bottom this okay my head's topsy tervie I don't know what's going on anymore I just want to chill out and shoot a few tourists you know and but gus is like hey look you're on leave all right
Starting point is 00:41:59 you shouldn't even be with me okay you stay in the car I'm gonna go up to the building yeah and I'm gonna interview this uh lady okay Gus goes up on his own all right and there's a real like tense show like him going up the stairs and didn't know the elevator yeah and like you're like oh no something bad doesn't happen I can tell and Michael Douglas is in the car and he sees like a woman or so a figure a figure dressed in black right he's like oh god Gus So he starts Running up the stairs
Starting point is 00:42:26 Yeah But by the time It gets there Poor old Gus Has been stabbed to death Oh no By the figure in black Oh wow
Starting point is 00:42:33 Yeah So Michael Douglas is like Jesus fuck What's going on He picks up Gus's gun Gus is dead By the way
Starting point is 00:42:38 Yeah Because he was stabbed to death Yes You said that I just want to emphasize For the listener It's like Gus is dead
Starting point is 00:42:45 Okay Fan favorite Gus That's why I Compared to Jerry From the previous episode Right Yeah This is what Jerry
Starting point is 00:42:51 Wishes That's what somebody should do So guess who's there, the therapist? Okay. And he's like, what the fuck you're doing here? Okay, and therapist's like, oh, Gus called me. He says he wants me to come over.
Starting point is 00:43:05 Oh. Yeah. And Michael Douglas is like, that sounds bullshit. Put your hands in the air. And the therapist is walking up to him where, fucking her hands in our pockets, fucking, like, you know. She's like, Nick, what's going on? What, you think I did? Such a fucking white privilege that will, like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:43:23 just like take your hands any black guy knows take your hands out your pockets okay has Nick got his gun on yeah yeah he's like take your he says like four different times take your hands out of your pockets yeah he's like no why should I you know and Gus doesn't have a good track or no Nick doesn't have good track record yeah yeah yeah like this is even more reason to shoot like those tourists didn't have that like those tourists had their hands well up in the air so he's walking towards him with her hand, her right hand in her pocket going like, what, you don't think I did it, did you? Did you?
Starting point is 00:43:59 I just getting closer and then Nick's like, fuck it and it shoots her. You shoots her? Yeah, shoot the therapist. Is it a killer? Yep. Yeah. I just shot her in the arm. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:44:08 Bad Nick, you bad pup. Guess what then? What? The hand comes out of the pocket, set of keys. Oh. Well, that's what you get, man. If a cop tells you to take your hand out of your pocket and you don't do it, they shoot that's how
Starting point is 00:44:23 I had no sympathy for her no sympathy first we find out she slept for woman and then we find no jokes jokes jokes jokes yeah but like there's no it's like such like I wish it differently
Starting point is 00:44:37 because now we're not conflicted about it all if it had been like she showed up and Nick was like and shot her like accidentally yeah yeah that would be more like whereas like he's kind of got just cause but he's on leave yeah well okay so Nick's like
Starting point is 00:44:51 oh no I did it again I did a boo-boo Okay But then he like Seas there's a bag Near Like
Starting point is 00:45:01 The therapist? Yeah Further like down the hallway Oh okay A black bag With like a black suit And a knife Okay
Starting point is 00:45:09 So then the rest of the police show up And they all assume like Oh The therapist must have done it And she Nick got her Yeah Nick's like everybody's like
Starting point is 00:45:17 Good job Yeah they're all like Nick you're a hero Just like with those tourists Yeah You've saved us again You've redeemed yourself, Nick Go on, have some blow
Starting point is 00:45:25 Just for the crack Okay, so it's kind of like Nick's the hero So you think like Oh, everything's wrapped up In a neat little package Okay, so Nick's like Okay, I'm gonna go back
Starting point is 00:45:36 To Sharon Stone now And get like, you know I've killed So I might as well fuck, you know Yeah, yeah So he goes out He goes to meet her And they have a nice,
Starting point is 00:45:49 nice little bit of sexy banter You know? Yeah and they start having sex and Nick's kind of like before going like no they have sex okay and you think she's going to reach for something and again she comes so hard
Starting point is 00:46:02 she doesn't do it okay and then they're hanging out with Nick's like you know you ever think you ever think about having kids and settling down and you know living happily ever after and she's like oh I don't know Nick maybe I do and she's reaching down for something again
Starting point is 00:46:17 and we're like oh she's going to stab Nick oh no it's the end of the movie at the very last second she goes and just kisses them oh so they did that before yeah they do like three times that kind of like build up like oh oh oh oh oh oh yeah
Starting point is 00:46:31 so the movie now nearly in the movie like oh god my heartstrings are going like I don't know what I need some Xanax like yeah they kiss on the bed camera pans down ice pick
Starting point is 00:46:46 okay the end is that it yeah oh it's you don't actually see I forgot that they stay together Which is ruined in Basic Instinct 2 Which we should watch next week Wait, but I thought Sharon Stone was the one that was doing it, no?
Starting point is 00:47:02 She must to be, yeah I think the ice pick signify she was the one kill him Oh, but I don't know, I don't remember I thought he'd like killed her or something But no, I guess not They did a sequel, didn't it? Yeah Michael Douglas is not the sequel because he had a...
Starting point is 00:47:17 A career? Yeah, and also he got cancer from eating Catherine Dieter Jones's pussy Yes Which is true Well that's what he said He was bragging about that Yeah
Starting point is 00:47:26 Okay so Oh fuck That's a kind of Anticlimactic A little bit there A little bit yeah Yeah And the end
Starting point is 00:47:35 You're missing something Because he kind of wants Some cumuppance Yeah For both Nick And Sharon Stone Yeah He just shot an innocent woman
Starting point is 00:47:42 And she's murdering Flat out Huh That's weird Weird ending Yeah So anyway Like
Starting point is 00:47:49 You've heard my description is there any part of you that goes like i want to watch this again i kind of do to be honest i downloaded it to watch it but i just didn't get around to it but i probably will watch it yeah but like you know if i watch it in here it's just gonna sound like i'm watching porn because there's a lot of sex there's a lot of very loud sex yeah i was turning the volume up and down a lot and i was watching it yeah because i live with a lot like um i live with like six other people yes you do so um those walls are papered in like i know yeah and it's kind of hard to tell him, like, they're like, are you watching porn?
Starting point is 00:48:22 Like, it's Paul Verkhoven's masterpiece. I have a podcast. Get on. I swear she's going to stand my ice pick any second. It's okay. Then you do a Gaza and kiss her, just try to calm her down. Kiss some fat lass. As I drink my whiskey-flavored milk.
Starting point is 00:48:42 You ever hear of a whiskey sour? Yeah. So, we'll wrap this up in a minute. That was the film. But the final thing I want to talk about is the screenwriter. Okay. So the screenwriter, I have his name written down here. Joe Estavaz.
Starting point is 00:48:57 Because that's Joe Esther. Joe E-S-Z-T-E-R-H-A-S. Joe Esther. Esteraz. Just call him Joe. Okay, so Joe's the writer of this screenplay. Yeah, Joey Screenplay. Joey Screenplay.
Starting point is 00:49:15 Hey, Joey Screenplay. What do you do for our living? I'm a baker. Oh, I see. Fattered, high hopes. You better go out there and you better write a screenplay. No, that?
Starting point is 00:49:28 So, Joey screenplay then. So he's the writer. Joey screenplay wrote this. He wrote a few other big films. Yeah. Showgirls, one of them. He's big into his erotic thrillers. Yeah, okay.
Starting point is 00:49:38 I get the feeling from him. He kind of writes, like, about big tits and murder. Yeah. And then Paul Vertova's one is like, I'm going to try class this up a bit, make his mark. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Yeah, yeah. Joe was known for a long time is before Basic Instinct he wrote a script a spec script about the President of America
Starting point is 00:49:59 having sex with a cow Oh my God, what? And it got sent around a lot and apparently like Kubrick and who else Steven Spielberg
Starting point is 00:50:07 a few other people were like big fans of it Are you serious? They're all like We're never going to make it Oh wow According to Joey Now Joey screenplay
Starting point is 00:50:14 Kubrick even sent him a message going like Loved it Wow That's a fuck There's no way to be able to film this. That's quite an endorsement.
Starting point is 00:50:22 Yeah, yeah. Man, I really want to read it now. Because you said, when you said, you know, president of sex with a car, I'm like, what the fuck, that's mental? But Kubrick's like, I love it. Yeah. Are you sure they weren't, like, fucking with him? Like, Kubrick and Spielberg's like, hey, it's awesome.
Starting point is 00:50:35 We love it. I just can't make it, unfortunately. Maybe Joe is a bit slow. Do you like my screenplay? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:50:48 It's not being some real life, is it? I'm the president So he was a bit of a name for himself He was making a lot of big money Especially after basic instinct came out Oh everyone wanted him like But you know who else wanted him Who?
Starting point is 00:51:05 Mel Gibson Ah So this is around 2000 This is after Mel Gibson's big Kind of public meltdown When he was in disgrace When people Mean people were saying he's anti-Semitic
Starting point is 00:51:18 Yeah mean you know cold hearted people mean greedy people control everything we're saying this
Starting point is 00:51:28 okay and they also said he called the woman sugar tits just because he called the woman sugar tits so Mel Gibson comes to him and he wants to do what he's described
Starting point is 00:51:41 as like a redemption piece okay so he wanted to do a movie about a Jewish guy okay right it was basically Jewish Braveheart
Starting point is 00:51:51 that's the way he pitched it Jewish Braveheart yeah okay so it's actually there's a Jewish folklore about this guy
Starting point is 00:51:58 who like rose up and like you know did something I think somehow it's connected to Hanukkah okay
Starting point is 00:52:03 is it like when they were enslaved or whatever something like that yeah yeah something like that yeah it's a real
Starting point is 00:52:09 like you know Jewish kind of like yeah yeah fucking wooha hooha you know
Starting point is 00:52:15 yeah so he went to Joey Estabez, Joey Weber's name Joey, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was like, we're going to work on this together. Okay. And, you know, Joe's kind of like, well, you've got history
Starting point is 00:52:26 anti-Semitism, and I'm a very proud Jew, but you're offering me a lot of money, and I actually kind of like you, you know, he seemed likable. Yeah. I'm going to give you a chance. Okay. And apparently, it was just six months of hell then, them trying to do the screenplay together.
Starting point is 00:52:41 It was insane, and he said, at the second, like, he agreed to it, metal just changed. Like, he had the nice, nice like hey go on it's work together and after that it was like every second word was like cock sucker or F-beep T oh really okay okay yeah yeah yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:52:57 F maggot yeah that's what I yeah it was all it was all cocksucker and homophobic slurs are worse than cock sucker yeah and then like he called Jewish uh he called Holocaust Survivors uh oven dodgers Jesus Christ
Starting point is 00:53:11 yeah and it's like he was constantly he said basically his mission was to make the film so good he can virtues to Christianity Wow and he was constantly talking about how God wants him to do this
Starting point is 00:53:23 Are you serious? Yeah everything he did was because God wants him do this Jesus Christ Yeah Was he like on Coke Mel?
Starting point is 00:53:31 Is that in the book? I think Mel I haven't read the full book now I'm going to read I'm going to buy it on Kindle Because yeah Did you mention that
Starting point is 00:53:38 Joey Screamblade went on and wrote a book about him Yeah yeah He wrote a book called Heaven and Mel Yeah Heaven and Mel
Starting point is 00:53:45 It's a good title Yeah about his time with a Mel Gibson, yeah. It sounds interesting, though. So, yeah, so back to Mel and so they're hanging out and he's just been really... Yeah, he's basically...
Starting point is 00:53:56 He's been insane, like, the whole thing fell down after a while. He was like, I can't work with you, did you. Yeah, yeah. Like, he was, like, he was just screaming out. He, like, he just... Almost sounds like bipolar. Where he just, like, happy, happy.
Starting point is 00:54:08 Yeah, you go, man. And then, like, you fucking cock sucker! Really? You fucking Jew cocksucker. And they're like, hey, look, it. It's all war on the bridge, man. You forgive me, don't you? You fucking cocksucker.
Starting point is 00:54:16 yeah that's interesting now i had a relationship like that once no uh oh no like the harm doing my dad though he was very angry man but then like you know like two seconds there sorry about that now and then like like literally 30 seconds you fuck a idiot and i'm like all right man one of the other relax but anyway hey we're not here to talk about me or my many issues we're here to talk about heaven and mel yeah so back to it that's really it like Oh, really? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:54:49 Old Heaven and Mel. I'll read the full book and I can get more. Because there's a few things I kind of half remember, but I don't want to slander Mel Gibson. Do you honest, we could do a whole episode on just the Mel Gibson saga, you know? Yeah. Just like the tapes and everything. Like, I know Opie and Anthony did it a bit, like, but now it's got like new chapters to it.
Starting point is 00:55:06 We can go through. Because he's kind of back, you know? That's the way. He's back. Like, he's getting, he's kind of sort of slowly coming back into the mainstream. Even after just the, the, um, mount of the shit he said was just on for Google. What's the worst thing he says?
Starting point is 00:55:20 So he said, I hope if you get raped, so he left abusive voicemails to his girlfriend to anyone that doesn't know. And he says lots of crazy shit, but one of the worst things he says, if you get raped by a pack of N-words, it'll be your own fault.
Starting point is 00:55:36 That's for bait on. And now we know Mel Gibson didn't say N-word. He didn't go like, you're going to rape by a pack of a Barbie PC about this. Afro-American And, you know, if that happens, fair play to them because Dave had a lot of injustice Oh, Jesus Christ
Starting point is 00:56:02 I'm turning over a new leaf You bitch So he said that I know he was very abusive to his wives Yeah So he was just like a very angry, abusive, crazy motherfucker But now he's coming back He's big into his anti-Jew
Starting point is 00:56:16 Jewish stuff. Yeah, he's a big Christian, crazy fucking Christian. He called that woman Sugar Tits, the police officer. The police officer who pulled him over, yeah. Now, drunk driving.
Starting point is 00:56:26 That video is there of that? Is there a video of that? I imagine it must be otherwise. Everyone knows Sugar Tits. Yeah, but I think there was just the cop said it in interview. Could be a video, I'm not sure, to be honest, I don't know. Yeah, well, look, wherever it is, like,
Starting point is 00:56:39 sugar tits stuck, like. Yeah, yeah. Now he's doing drag to, he did that film Drag to Cost, Crunk. dragged across concrete did you see that I did yeah was it good
Starting point is 00:56:49 you know what I was going to talk about more in the podcast but it's actually so much of what we already talk about it's very race heavy well we could also talk about his appearance in
Starting point is 00:56:59 Daddy's Home 2 Christmas themed family movie it's also very race heavy well it's funny like dragged across concrete there's a whole section
Starting point is 00:57:11 about basically like so the film is about him and Vince Vaughn and they get caught like doing some police police brutality and like they're kind of like
Starting point is 00:57:19 you know this fucking everyone calls you a racist this day and like Don Johnson doing does a speech was like
Starting point is 00:57:25 this day and age everyone calls you a racist don't even care if it's true or not just this damn social media and journalist
Starting point is 00:57:30 just want to call everyone racist and then Mel Gibson stares to the camera see
Starting point is 00:57:35 yeah see I'm not saying it he's saying but you agree with it and that's also in Daddy's home yes it is
Starting point is 00:57:42 where Will Farrell just like you know everybody that's a good Just because you say that Just because he call him Oven Dodgers
Starting point is 00:57:49 They all think you're any Semitic I don't care if he runs SNL That's what he is There's actually a scene in it We're like So they live in a bad neighbourhood Which is code for like Yeah, yeah sure
Starting point is 00:58:03 Yeah yeah Low income housing And Mel Gibson's wife is like You know I was never a racist So I moved here But my God I hate to Oh my God She said something like that
Starting point is 00:58:13 Yeah Jesus Christ you kind of wonder like did Mel help out with the script a bit because I love the guy who did it like it's an interesting film I won't say it's great and you kind of wonder
Starting point is 00:58:25 about the political undertone especially the fact that you have Mel Gibson in it I mean that's like you're kind of making a statement of you're having him in a movie about this stuff yeah there is something being said here
Starting point is 00:58:38 I didn't get that from the guy it's Craig S. Ziegler I think his name is He did Brawl And Cell Block 99 And Bone Tomah
Starting point is 00:58:47 Which are both Great films Yeah Which aren't that political Or they're not Like maybe like Undertones
Starting point is 00:58:54 Wasn't it's going On neonati in that I don't know I haven't No no No no He had a cross But like
Starting point is 00:58:59 You know Right Right right The only Kind of bit I was like Hmm There's an evil
Starting point is 00:59:03 Abortionist in it And then a woman shoots the abortionist And I was thinking Like I suppose there might be something there But like
Starting point is 00:59:09 I wanted The abortionist shot too He was an evil one Right He was going to, like, do the, going to abort the baby without her permission, like. Oh, Jesus. Yeah. And, you know, I, there's definitely some people who watch that going to, like, see.
Starting point is 00:59:23 They say what the H.S.C. are going to do. Oh, wow. Jeez, that's interesting. So that's, like, two kind of very old, not alt-right, but even just, like, right-leaning, conservative people would feel to be racism there, but also anti-abortion stuff there. And even, like, Bowen Tomahawk. I didn't get this tall, but, like, the villains are kind of, like, all, like, Native American evil like yeah but they do the thing of like having the one native american good guy going like they're
Starting point is 00:59:46 savages oh and this is me saying that jesus all right i'm really starting to see a pattern with this guy i need one more film to find out just to prove it like i don't like them all right i just don't like them it's just a phone on ted talk okay well look we're going to end it there because we're just over an hour that was good that was good i had fun that was fun if you want to do another film yeah we definitely should what would you do should we do something a bit more tell you what um someone's talking recently about it chapter two yeah that's a film everyone likes okay well everyone's seen i haven't seen it well we can watch it well we can watch it we and talk about in the show
Starting point is 01:00:25 all right yeah well wouldn't we have to do part one though we're just doing part two i think it's funnier if we just think part two you should do that do it just do sequels yeah we do speed two godfather two equally good in their own right i do uh sister act too basically instinct, back in the habit. Back in the habit. It chapter two, back in the habit. And instead of like a clown as Whoopi Goldberg, bites a kid's arm off. Ted Danson makes a reappearance
Starting point is 01:00:58 in Blackface. And then two kids like, Mr. Danson, why did you do Blackface? Oh, come on, didn't you like Becker? Come on. All right, we'll end it there. Okay. Thanks for a listener. everyone uh please uh tell your friends about this but all your cool friends like and share and all that jazz yeah how do i turn this off hit stop which one's stop the square okay we let this isn't
Starting point is 01:01:24 for comedic effect yeah it's really happening let's it's good to we leave this in like yeah

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