Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 5 : Dinner with the Zodiac Killer

Episode Date: October 11, 2018

Dinner with the Zodiac killer...

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Drink, drink, swala la la, la. Drink, swala la la. Do you know this song? I do not. It's Jason Drullo. Is it? That's probably why I don't know it. See, I knew you wouldn't know it.
Starting point is 00:00:12 I got you. Yeah, you're... Oh, no. You've exposed me for not like a Jason fucking Darulow. Holy shit. Oh, my plan works. His greatest hits are just fucking sampled from like every... Like, he's a...
Starting point is 00:00:25 I knew this to get you going. That's what we need. You're the Bayer, I'm the Russian. controlling you. Well, no, I don't know Jason Darulam. I don't know much. Some of the girls in college went to see him. Oh, right. Okay. And I pretend, because they're like, I'm in college now again.
Starting point is 00:00:39 I'm 203. They're all like 18 and 19. Yeah, yeah. So now I'm like pretending like I know the stuff. God, yeah. That's how I felt. And I went back when I was 25, so imagine. Jesus, yeah. You feel awful old, don't you? You feel so old. I don't want to sound like bad, but you do feel a real peddle. Mm.
Starting point is 00:00:58 Sure. I mean, they're all. 1819 but like some of them uh no they're in college it's the minimum age yeah yeah yeah believe me I've checked yes I've done my studies I've done my research I need loopholes
Starting point is 00:01:13 May I dread bring your attention to section 1A paragraph B permission from the father so what's the big deal so you're back of college I am yeah how's it going it's going pretty well
Starting point is 00:01:28 what are you doing again doing event management. Event management. Which makes more sense. Sexy. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All these sex events. I'll manage them.
Starting point is 00:01:38 I'll be having sex and I'll be like, watch them. Yeah. Just handing out like cards for them to like fill in recommendations. Yeah, making sure the noise levels aren't too high. You know, all that sexy stuff. Yeah, so I'm doing event management. It's going pretty well, like. Class seems cool.
Starting point is 00:01:51 There's no cons or anything like that. That's good. The lecture seemed good. I did actually, I kind of like, I kind of embarrassed with a little bit this week. Yeah. We were in class at the computer. all right and one of the girls was asking me for a bit help like do something on the computer so i helped her and she was like oh you could be a lecture and then i went yeah it could be
Starting point is 00:02:08 fuck lorraine and did lorraine's lecture and she was in the room at the time oh my god she literally like a character who sitting there like that and kind of looked up like that and did you say uh did different lorraine no no i just went real quiet then like because she's actually one that i went really red as well they're all saying when red oh which is like she's one of and she's a really nice lecturer and she's a very nice person that's why when Ray's like oh no I don't want to like
Starting point is 00:02:34 Yeah you get me You're even getting a little red now Yeah yeah If she was a cunt I wouldn't mind calling her a cunt Which she's not I hope Lorraine hears this She's a lovely woman
Starting point is 00:02:43 You're great Lorraine She doesn't not approve of my Very classy She doesn't approve of like One the cunt's also the pedo talk A minute before Is that where we lost you Lorraine
Starting point is 00:02:54 Yeah anyway I'll get that Excel work done Tomorrow The only thing about that is That offends me is the way you pronounce it. It's pedo, not peddle. I'm offended by that.
Starting point is 00:03:04 I like the word pedo, but just to confuse people. If I was listening, it's like, well, he's not pedo. You don't know the American slang. So you're back at college. You feel like a nonce. You got all these young people running around. Yeah. It's going well.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Yeah. I'm going to spread this out during the podcast, but that's the first one now. So the first few weeks of all that, you know, like the icebreaker shit. Oh, yeah, yeah. like fucking, yeah, you throw a ball and then tell them your deepest fear or some shit. Yeah, you throw and you like... Yeah, yeah. Like, the
Starting point is 00:03:36 trust circle, they all catch each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And like, the racist people feel good about themselves for catching the minorities. I didn't let her drop. Yeah. So, is that what happened? I didn't think that, oh. I wonder how people relate to that.
Starting point is 00:03:53 I don't. It's like the observation of comedy. Yeah, I'm like, uh, Seinfeld meets Farrakhan. Anyway, so the questions. Anyway, I love Farrakhan talking with you for one night. Well, first question I was going to ask is, okay, and we were asked this.
Starting point is 00:04:16 So we're asked series of questions so we're getting each other better. Okay. First question is, if you could have dinner with anyone in the world, date or alive, who would it be? Oh, God. I'll be honest, I didn't proper think this out I just said Cardi B'd give him a laugh Okay
Starting point is 00:04:31 Didn't get much of a laugh No But who would you I'm going to think about it's now I'll let you answer And I'll think about myself Oh god I also tell you the most common ones
Starting point is 00:04:40 Very surprised by Okay You see I feel obligated Like I should say someone like Who's the Dalai Lama Yeah I just love I love the guy's work He's amazing
Starting point is 00:04:50 Or like some like Greek philosopher Like Aristotle or so Plato or some Oh you know all these are great possible but really if I were to think about it who had I really liked to have dinner with? Just because of what like a huge deal he was
Starting point is 00:05:04 to me in my childhood? I'd probably go with Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey? It's not weird yeah, I know. It's like the worst It's just like going... No, that's an honest. That's an honest answer. But that's an honest answer because he fucking was my idol as a child. I'd kind of like to just have dinners like Jim. Just what the fuck he had like.
Starting point is 00:05:20 I'd like it. His backcings don't cause autism. Well... I don't care what your wife said. ex-wife. I would like to do if he was can, but I feel like he'd be like, you know, throwing food around and doing the other chaplain thing we're supposed to for. Yeah, no, I don't think,
Starting point is 00:05:36 and you know what, that would be, I'd actually like to say that, but, no, I think he's just like so, he's become so philosophical, or at least that's the image he's projecting now, like, you know, everything is nothing, it's all consciousness, etc. Yeah, which is fine.
Starting point is 00:05:52 He's a tiring, though. Maybe just, yeah, could you do another funny film, please? It was surprising, I still haven't taught like a proper good answer proper good one Like if I like really off top of my head Alright how about we go
Starting point is 00:06:02 Guilty Pleasure and then you know I like to talk like murder or something like that Fred West or something I want to get like the bottom of like the story And what's going Fred I kind of know I know Zodiac Killer That's it's a Zodiac Killer
Starting point is 00:06:14 Because I know who he is Then you'd know who he is Yeah That's interesting I don't think I tell people I keep it my own little secret Yeah Just for me
Starting point is 00:06:21 Like yeah my God That was crazy The Zodiac Killer That's interesting You got me in my mind working now which serial killer I'd like to have dinner with. That's a much better question, isn't it? John Wayne Gacy, just like, what was it, the clown thing?
Starting point is 00:06:35 There's a, brought a real sexy Hollywood angle to the, you know, never has child rape and murder been so. Rasmataz. Yeah, Hollywood dudes is like, He was the killer clown. Happy birthday do you? John's home. Ah ha ha ha!
Starting point is 00:06:52 So, yeah, you can sell it like, you see it. John Wayne Gaisley, the musical Yeah Bar-da-Barr-da-da-da-da-da Yeah What the fuck am I talking about? Hammer, hammer, hammer! So the Zodiac Killer, that's a good one though
Starting point is 00:07:08 Yeah, yeah, because you'll know his identity. Again, you can say that for Jack the Ripper, but who cares? Jack the Ripper, I feel a bit boring. Yeah, yeah, true. You wouldn't have to, like, the same. There's a bit in From Hell, which is a graphic novel about Jack the Ripper.
Starting point is 00:07:22 Yeah. I read it when I was, I think it was in primary school. I read it and it was the same weekend my granny died so I had a very big effect on me oh right reading about just one reading about prost who's getting stabbed today and then I got home to her my granny died I was like oh what does this mean oh it did you feel oh this book of sin has smited my grandma I did a little bit it's like this is bad book you know yeah yeah also I was like why is my willie hires because your granny's dead stab stab stab but yeah but there's a bit in it near the end where Jack the Ripper who is
Starting point is 00:07:53 he's Edward Gull, I think he's like a queen's physician in the book. Okay. Okay, they kind of explain, they take a theory of who he might be in the wrong with it, right? So the bit where Edward Gull is gutting this prostitute when he has like this kind of weird vision where he starts seeing like other killers
Starting point is 00:08:07 so he sees Fred West. He sees like, oh wow. Yeah, it's weird vision in the future. He starts seeing all these other killers. Oh, so what? Like serial killers were all connected to some higher consciousness? Yeah, that's why he's going to point in that.
Starting point is 00:08:18 Yeah, yeah. That's interesting. Then like it's a bit where he's like in an office building but no one else can see him, but he's like he's swinging around his knife but no one else like and then like uh then he he stuck him in asylum again wow yeah geez it sounds yeah a pretty fuck-up graphic novel to read in primary school yeah i could talk about this with the zodiac killer just your love of jack the ripper that's all you talk about i'd say he probably would
Starting point is 00:08:43 appreciate i wonder if he did i wonder if he's alive i don't know the timeline but what was he i know i think the fincher movie oh the fincher movie well i was 10 years ago it's possible I think he would have been like 90 or something maybe maybe I'm wrong again I don't know I'd like to think he saw it had a wee chuckle to himself yeah god that's crazy isn't it that's not how it happened do you know who most people said who say speaking of serial killers they said Obama I was just thinking oh yeah yeah well when you said serial killer I was like it's Obama yeah yeah take that welcome to Obama and I was just to Obama and I I, you know, like, they like him.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I don't be the guy going, like, what about drone strikes? Have that while you're eating your cock-o-bang. More red wine, red like the blood on your hands, Obama. Yeah, but, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, Obama, that'll be a good one. Hello, Brian. Would you like some lobster?
Starting point is 00:09:47 That's not very good, Obama. I have to watch how I say this now, but there is clips on YouTube of Obama reading his all biography. Yeah. Have you heard about this? No, no, no. Where he talked about
Starting point is 00:09:59 Gat, people, street guys talking to him. He does use to wear bitch in the N-word. Oh, really? Yeah, now he's quoting someone else. Yeah. But it's very weird to think, that's the former president and he's going, like, you're a bitch-ass.
Starting point is 00:10:11 He's dropping N-bombs, whereas now the current American president drops them all the time and nobody minds. He just doesn't get recorded, you know? Yeah, yeah. Supporting brick. Cabinna? Should we talk? Should we? Or, should we watch where we
Starting point is 00:10:24 say, I made a great Brett cabinet joke at a house party this weekend. No one got it. It was very nice. What's your Breckavenna, Joe? Oh, it's in the, is it a heat in the moment? Oh, okay, okay. I couldn't, I have to say names and stuff. It is, yeah, like. Certain people in the
Starting point is 00:10:38 certain people. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. It is the kind of bit of news information that possibly could go under somebody's radar over here if they're just more concerned about local stuff You know
Starting point is 00:10:52 Not really With the budget Yeah Yeah exactly With the price of fags What about Sure, you man raped I don't care
Starting point is 00:10:58 Yeah Yeah What is he What's about the cans Yeah What's his position Now that he's been That like
Starting point is 00:11:04 He's high court Yeah Like a justice Supreme Court And also Those guys can't be fired Yeah They're pretty much like
Starting point is 00:11:12 They're almost Above the law Yeah Yeah Above the president I'm like Yeah Wow
Starting point is 00:11:15 So if you're in You're in That's why There's a whole big thing About nothing Yeah Skull and Bull bones, baby. Yeah, it's very, very depressing. And it's almost like, yeah, very easy to turn yourself and go, like, that's, stay away from that shit. Yeah, yeah. But you kind of feel like you have to. That's the thing. It is very depressing. And it is. It's a depressing thing that somebody who, you know, there's all this heat on about, you know, possible sexual assault. It's just not investigated at all. And he's still free to, like, didn't talk to a lot of people. No, like a week-long investigation. They just brushed over it. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:49 Like, you know, back in the day, you could literally drown a woman, you'd be grand, you know. Yeah. Ted Kennedy, you know. Chippa Waddock, is that what is? Chippa Waddock. It's such a funny name. Yeah. Chippewa for a horrific.
Starting point is 00:12:01 Welcome to get Chippa Wattuck. Yeah, that's fun, does that. Yeah, Ted Kennedy's water park. Chippewa Wattuck. If we get the armbands, underwater, rolls, rice, yay. It probably wasn't a Rolls, I mean, I don't know what car. It was some nice car. A Cadillac.
Starting point is 00:12:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah. K to reenact. Way! Where did then Ted runs away for a while? You didn't even have to put much effort into it. Like, he didn't, like, she's walking and come back and, like, oh, she's dead. Yeah, but they do say that's the reason he didn't get to be the US president. Because that scandal.
Starting point is 00:12:37 These are fuck-ups. They were very, uh, lads, lads, weren't they? Just, like, drinking, very promiscuous and probably very misogynist as well. Pulling trains and Marilyn and stuff. Yeah, yeah. one of their sisters was like lobotomized Is that right?
Starting point is 00:12:52 Yeah I didn't know that man Kept her in the Dungeons It's gonna say dungeon They don't have a dungeon They might have a dungeon Otherwise
Starting point is 00:12:58 This current climate I tell you Yeah Yeah That's yeah Breckham is that Not a fun news story Yeah no
Starting point is 00:13:06 It's not You can't really play off it Like Ha ha ha yeah No Oh you can Go on If you're evil
Starting point is 00:13:11 Oh yeah I'm sure there's lot Behind the scenes Like Yeah probably Probably Probably He's probably
Starting point is 00:13:17 happen to chuckle themselves. Oh, I'm having a great time right now. Oh, what was the next question? I was going to ask you another question, all right? Yeah, go on. Oh, wait, can I just jump topic completely? Go for it. Because I was going to ask another question, but I just talked to something else.
Starting point is 00:13:29 So, I'm in the new college. I'm trying to be better than the last time I was in college. Last time, you know, that's a lot of drugs and fucking, you know. Yeah. How is this different? This time, it's different because I am slowing down the drugs, and also I'm trying to read a book every week. Is that right?
Starting point is 00:13:43 Yeah, I'm trying to read a book. So, yeah, we can... A book a week? Well, that's a long shot. That's a long shot. A book. I'm trying to read a book. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:50 If I get a book done every now and again, I'm happy, okay? So what are you currently reading? I just finished a book called The Curious Instinct of the Dog in the Night Time, all right? Curious Instant of the Dog and the Night Time. Yeah, yeah. Catchy title. Yeah, yeah. Really.
Starting point is 00:14:04 Won the Booker Prize, I think. Oh. It was a big deal back in the day. It became a London show. What do you call it, West End show? West End, okay. So it became a big deal, all right? And it's about, and this is why I'm bringing up, because the listeners might not know this,
Starting point is 00:14:17 but it's about an autistic kid I'm going to spoil the whole book all right okay and you've got diagnosed like mild autism well yeah I got diagnosed with
Starting point is 00:14:26 ADHD but also showed signs of being on the autism spectrum on the end of the spectrum yeah yeah like you know not because I have a brother two brothers actually one is like he had ADHD really
Starting point is 00:14:42 bad when he was a kid and then my older brother he's like really he's got like serious autism and maybe some other stuff so there's and it it was being it was easily traced back to relatives like uncles and lying on my dad's side so history family history of it there so yeah like i definitely have um you know just like things are difficult for me eye contact is difficult like social situations i always need something to like stimulate me like okay have a smoke have a you know right i'll have a drink just always need something to sit there
Starting point is 00:15:14 just sit there like just sit with my own thoughts is just impossible and that's why i indulge in like all sorts of things it's funny how meditation is so difficult where it's literally doing nothing yeah it's it's so difficult yeah yeah it's so difficult yeah it's not being on your phone not watching hardcore pornography it's very difficult but yeah so i'm a little bit autistic like the boy in the book no the boy in the book is fully oh he's a full so it'd be kind of like my brother at the end of his. Yeah. So he goes to like special school and all that. So I'm going to start the book as I said. Yeah. So basically starts off dead dog. Okay. It gets your attention straight away. Sure. Sure does. Dog stab with a
Starting point is 00:15:54 fucking fort like a big thing. Oh. Dog gets murdered. Yeah. With like a big four with a sprang or something like that. Yeah. Pitchfork. Yeah. The kids, he's all autistic. So he's like, oh, uh, oh dog tries to hug it all that stuff. Okay. Oh, but it's dead. Yeah, it's dead. So the police arrest them. Okay. And they think he did it. Oh, fuck. Right. Then, like, he hits the policeman because he's, don't touch me. Don't touch me. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Hits the policeman. Has a big instant brought down the station. His dad explains it all. Yeah, yeah. He's like, okay, okay, you go home. So that's how it starts. Okay. What's going on here?
Starting point is 00:16:25 Yeah, yeah. Then the kid's like, I want to write a book about what goes on. I'm going to solve the mystery of dead dogs. I'm like Sherylac Holmes. I like Sheryl Combs. I like Sherylum's. Okay. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 00:16:35 Yeah, it's good hitch, too. Yeah, yeah. The book is his writing. Okay. Because it's his writing. so like he's not going to explain like what the adults the adults like are their emotions are okay so every now again he might be like she was yelling i'm not sure why yeah yeah and also he's really big into mats mats calm him down yeah see just to interrupt i uh i heard that that autistics are good with
Starting point is 00:16:57 numbers and i failed ordinary level mats in my leaving search so you didn't get any of the good no no i didn't get any of the good stuff like i'm not i'm no mercury rising uh what That's, I'm sorry, that's a reference to a Bruce Willis film He protects a little autistic child He's like a genius Is he like Baldwin though?
Starting point is 00:17:15 Maybe, yeah, I don't know Alex Lee's, there's a child in like Yeah, yeah I think Alec Baldwin isn't Yeah, he could be He is on my watch that I was drunk after a fight And I watched that
Starting point is 00:17:24 Okay Yeah, no, I wasn't in the fight A fight happened Oh, right I was drunk, I was just standing there awkward Like, I was very like, hey, what's going on Guys, there's a fight lift you going on
Starting point is 00:17:32 I was like, hey, hey, hey Where was this in a gap? No, it's in this student apartment Oh, right, I walked back there was a big fight going on the car park and I walked back so and some of my friends were in a fight I was too drunk I was just like I was probably in a low pose as well I was just like hey guys what's going on it's all get along and like literally fist like into it away from my face like just swings by
Starting point is 00:17:50 and I'm like hey what can't we be friends yeah yeah that's all get along and I probably went to home watch the last like 10 minutes oh yeah so yeah I don't um you don't get the numbers no I don't get the numbers I just get all the really social awkwardness like social awkwardness is really a big one for me i don't know how to it's it's kind of like i don't think i'm fully aware of how i come across if you know what i mean like i'll say something and i think you know because of the way i say it or maybe it's the wrong choice words it gets interpreted really wrong and people take it on as hostile i get what you mean i i i'm like i find people maybe being a little like hostile or uncomfortable around me because they think i'm like that but really i'm trying to be nice but
Starting point is 00:18:36 it's just so hard again you get the strangles I want to do that thing it makes me feel like God yeah I get that sometimes as well like I'm very bad like getting how people interpret something
Starting point is 00:18:51 yeah yeah so if I send text doesn't get answered or like it's a weird kind of response yeah that's she hates me yeah no I'm the exact same I think though that's her that's become quite universal now whereas you know even like you know people
Starting point is 00:19:06 with no learning disabilities or mental health issues probably feel that to an extent. Well, this is something that's literally soft off my head. I'm not philosophy major, I need that. Okay. I taught a lot of autistic people
Starting point is 00:19:19 work in Silicon Valley and design the internet. Is that right? I imagine so. Oh, okay. Well, people like, maybe, sorry, I'm using autistic as a by word
Starting point is 00:19:28 for just like awkward, which I know people hate, like, no Ron Functions is a thing about that are people who use autism instead of using the R word. Like, just a lot of socially awkward people have invented the structures that we work in now. Yeah, that's
Starting point is 00:19:39 true. So maybe that again I don't know what I'm talking about. Oh, so you think that could maybe contribute? I'm saying the phones are giving us autism. It's about time. Somebody said it, get David Ike on the floor. It's the blacks and the Jews. I've written a manifest
Starting point is 00:19:57 and I have guns. So anyway, it's this book, right? He wants to solve the mystery And his dad's like, Leave it alone And the dog's dead, Leave it alone.
Starting point is 00:20:12 As he's researching, he finds these weird letters In his basement or whatever From his mother And he's like, What, my mother died two years ago? What's going on? Turns out she didn't die.
Starting point is 00:20:20 She fucking abandoned the little con. Oh my God. Yeah, because he's being too, not spazzy, he's been too, He was being too, you know what I mean? Difficult. Yeah, he's just difficult.
Starting point is 00:20:32 Yes. He's been too difficult. Like, you know, he hit his head off. things and like memorising the bus time table yeah he was like so she left him that's horrible yeah it's awful that is awful and he kind of forget it's a kid's book it's meant to be a kid's book but you forget it so then he starts um going all difficult on the dad on the dad sure yeah and the dad's like oh no what the fuck tries to calm down and the dad's like okay let me tell you the true all right yeah your mother left me not just because of you also as a man involved as well okay
Starting point is 00:21:02 yeah next-door neighbor okay oh my god but then i start back the other next door neighbor. Oh my God. He'll say all this is a kill. I start banging her again. Yeah, no condom. Raw dog in that bitch, you? But then the other
Starting point is 00:21:14 bitch I was writing the fucking, the moment I was riding broke up me so I stabbed her dog and that's, so I killed a dog. So then the sun really starts going difficult. That is a very disturbing children's book. Oh my God. So the sun really
Starting point is 00:21:31 starts going difficult then and starts like, you know, flailing about a bit. runs off he's got a pet rat as well let's throw that in okay him and his pet rat run off and um I think they steal the dad's bank cards on my dad's and we tried him and the rat are in cahoots
Starting point is 00:21:45 yeah is the rat sentient in it there's an anthropomorphize come on boy come on let's go kill your mother strangles so they steal the bank card then they start living large
Starting point is 00:21:57 no no they run off to London okay and after a while I kind of get a bit Midnight Cowboy Everybody's talking about He gets the biggest weird cough I'm walking here So it gets a bit
Starting point is 00:22:11 So he goes London bus too much for him Sure yeah yeah Sensory overload Yeah do a cool thing in the text where Instead of just regular text Start to show loads of logos Okay The text keeps getting split up by like
Starting point is 00:22:22 Just weird like dots And McDonald's logo Right right So he can't think properly Because there's too much going on Yeah yeah So he starts doing those a number He starts counting out pie
Starting point is 00:22:31 loads of times That's why he likes doing calms them down. Yeah, yeah, and doing like weird equations. I tell you, I can identify with the sensory overload thing. I have a weird thing about, like, volume. Like, well, see, I have, like, I had this, I've had, like, surgery on my ear and shit. It gets, like, chronic conditions since childhood.
Starting point is 00:22:49 But then, like, when shit's too loud, it actually, like, I get a little dizzy and disorientated. I'm kind of like, what the fuck? I need to, like, snap out of it kind of thing. So, I, you know, I definitely exhibit some of the sensory overload things. Plus, like, flashing lights, I can't fucking take at all. Like, you know, really fuck me up. Yeah, he doesn't like flash nights. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:09 That's one thing, London's so, like, big and flashing. I would never, like, you know, have a fit or anything like that. I would just, I would be like, fuck this, I'm out and leave the place. Which is funny, because I do, would have fits around again. Not like, it isn't very rare, like, right now and again. And mostly it's on my own. Okay. Like, let's say, I'm working something in the computer crashes.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Yeah. I was working a big assignment. I think I lost everything. Okay. I would be proper, like, making weird noises and whacking my head off things. Yeah. Oh, well, like, I do that. I definitely...
Starting point is 00:23:38 Well, in public, no. Not in public, no. I'd have too much shame. When I'm on my own, I tell you, when I'm in the car, oh, my God, I'm just, like, screaming at, you're a stupid cat, you're going to fucking... I'm, like, screaming at someone from my childhood. Like, something's just, like, memory will just see, come into the rust to the forefront. And I out loud, I'd be like, oh, yeah, well, fuck you.
Starting point is 00:23:57 You're an alcoholic, fuzz, granny, you know, something like that. And it's weird, like... There's a lot of cars, is it? Oh, I do. I'm serious road rage as well. I'll scream. I'll be like, you stupid,
Starting point is 00:24:08 fuck I'm God! For like the total most benign thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely. I got a lot of anger stuff. I definitely have a lot of... I think it's suppressed it so much. I don't even know about it.
Starting point is 00:24:17 Yeah, yeah. But like, even, like, I would have said, no, I don't, but coming here today, driving your gaffe, a lot of bikes and a lot of traffic stuff with that, I don't even know where I'm going 100%. Yeah. So I was proper, like,
Starting point is 00:24:29 I want to shoot, like, if the bike, and they hit me once a day was like, I want to fucking kill his kid that I was like that kind of like I most I'll do is the screen the word fuck like yeah that's it like I'll I'll actually direct them I'll say yeah I'll say something stupid I'd be too scared actually say something oh god no I never like I mean the windows are up I'm shouting in my car but they can't hear if you know if somebody beeps the horn at me I'll give them the finger but that's a rare thing braver man than me yeah yeah I don't know it's a self-sabotage thing maybe I want them to pull me over and kick the shit out of me
Starting point is 00:25:00 would be sexy yeah it would be show me a good time i used to always laugh of people in the radio like on the radio especially news talk it's constant like talking with boys the cyclists yeah they're so terrible i used to like but like driving around dublin is kind of like i do get where you're coming from it is it is it's like there have been videos of like taxi drivers intentionally running over cyclists yeah i've been circulating recently i missed that you have to send me that yeah yeah there's a friend of me a friend of mine that showed it to me but like yeah this guy there's no way it could be misconstrued, he saw him, he put the foot down, and he mowed him down, like.
Starting point is 00:25:33 That's a bit much. It's fucking insane, like, you know. I know George Hook said at one stage that he hoped to get shot or something like that. Now, that's him being facetious. And then he says him about rape as well, you know, he said a few things. But, um, he's still on the radio actually. Yeah? Yeah, on someday
Starting point is 00:25:51 something like that. Jesus. I'm a big radio listener or something. Yeah, because I'm cool. Anyway, this book. We'll get, we'll finish this though. We're never you're at the end of it. Okay. All right. Keep talking about the book. Okay. So, he gets to London, all right, and he's walking around the place. He, like, once he says
Starting point is 00:26:05 he falls off and, like, you know, he's hit by a train, like, his rat runs around, and, like, an idiot he tries to, like, save the rat, and then the policeman saves him, and he runs a person of a policeman. It's just big, like, they're more like a kid's book, you know? Okay. After the horrific dysfunctional environment
Starting point is 00:26:21 of home. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, like, he gets to his mother's place dead, and she's all, like, I forget his kid's name now. William or something like oh she's like oh that's a good autistic oh it's my son oh my god he's like mommy then the dad the guy she's way's kind of like can't stay here yeah i shut up oh mommy yeah then the police come around like it's okay do you mind being with him oh he's my son like you mind being with her she's my mother yeah and it's like then the dad shows up he's all like you fucking left for two years what are you doing he's like ah yeah you killed a dog yeah he told me the whole thing and
Starting point is 00:26:56 he's like ah so it's like he's the villain now oh oh right care that much but imagine Fathers for Justice people would be going a bit mental that way you remember like they dressed up with bat they're kind of quieted down there
Starting point is 00:27:06 you still all if you dressed up Yeah I remember yeah yeah Jesus Christ I'm like getting up on like Bucking Palace I think one of them broke into the Queen's bedroom Are you serious? I think he tried to Of all the like movements
Starting point is 00:27:18 to like penetrate Bucking and Palace it's sad dads They were like Oh I want to see him more Or whatever the fuck Batman They're very fat like Batman the stomachs
Starting point is 00:27:29 and the fully covers belly and then the judge like well he can have the kids
Starting point is 00:27:33 then clearly yeah yeah oh I thought he doesn't kill the queen so yeah
Starting point is 00:27:39 the lizard queen and then well I don't like I was enjoying the book up to it and then it
Starting point is 00:27:44 kind of gets to give a happy ending bit or like well he is like so he wants to do his A levels he wants to do his A levels
Starting point is 00:27:50 and like they're like oh he can't do he able you missed it because it's like you ran off the London
Starting point is 00:27:54 like a like a dunderhead all right so then like he's like no then he starts like throwing a bit of a fit and then they're like okay we'll get your A levels so then he does his A levels then what age you see I I wasn't funny what do you have to be to do your A levels isn't I like he's super smart though he's doing like two years oh okay okay right right yeah so then he does
Starting point is 00:28:14 he gets what he wants all right and then at the end he's like well mommy staying over a few days at dad's house but she's leaving soon like yeah yeah and it's like well I'm gonna go university and I'm going to do what I want Like I ends like that And I was like It's such a week Because I was like I want no
Starting point is 00:28:30 I actually refer to be darker Yeah That is just not the reality Of the situation Because that it's weird Like it goes from like Dogs dead Family strife
Starting point is 00:28:39 To like Fucking lost in New York He meets Trump once dude Oh my good Like that So like And then I got what I wanted Yeah
Starting point is 00:28:47 And it all worked There was no real lesson Like Yeah He kind of had his fits And like I know This sounds bad I know you're supposed to be like
Starting point is 00:28:54 oh yeah he keeps it's this young he's understanding but kind of like i would like something like have some kind of sort of come up and maybe the wrath dies or something yeah they learns there's consequences to yeah something like that for kids but if a kid reading that it's like oh i can just like scream a lot and i'll get what i want yeah my mother will give me ice cream they'll do my eight levels the big one he's doing his eight levels time was stabbing people i was like oh are you serious yeah i just want to stab everybody jesus i've never uh but it does give you good insight into the mind of an autistic person.
Starting point is 00:29:25 Okay. Because I've known a few like heavily autistic people and it can be a tiny bit like you don't
Starting point is 00:29:32 you don't understand them like any no no yeah that's the thing yeah it's you have great respect for people
Starting point is 00:29:37 to work with them stuff like that because you have to have such temperament I wouldn't have that at all I'd be locked yeah I don't have the patience
Starting point is 00:29:45 yeah I'd be all power to speak we fucking say about me is there any other questions I'm gonna ask you we're actually we're doing well for time
Starting point is 00:29:53 so I'm gonna ask you one final question I was going to ask you where you see yourself in 10 years. That's a very depressing question for someone. And by that you've been me, clearly. I hope in 10 years actually that this podcast becomes like a big deal. We're doing like a podcast festival. Oh, that'd be nice.
Starting point is 00:30:12 We're like being like just like cameras and stuff like that. We're being streamed live and people pay to see like the uncensored video. And we have like strippers. We go like Howard Stern in the 90s. Like, I'm still in Simeon. Like, those old shows, it was so, like, just, like, she got her tits out of me. Yeah, it's like, it's on the radio. Yeah, yeah, back down is so different.
Starting point is 00:30:36 It's very easy, like, yeah, that's true. Yeah, you got big nipples, don't you? I do, Howard. Oh, yeah. So, yeah, that's my dream is something like that. Probably not with all the, like, we get some lady scientists on, yeah. Let them sit on the simians. feminism yeah so i'll ask you one final question then um what kind of dreams do you have
Starting point is 00:31:02 i don't know these dreams dreams jesus yeah dreams that's a that's a big one okay i tell you dreams i've been having lately you know what's interesting they say that people who smoke weed regularly don't dream i smoke weed regularly i dream a lot like you stop smoking and then have the dreams afterwards they're much more vision yeah i have heard that no i he still smoke weed regularly don't drink need a lot to you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. I've tried to stop. I did a little bit, Kett this week. I'm unemployed, so, you did Ket this week? Only a little bit, like, just
Starting point is 00:31:31 Do you like it? I guess, it was too little, like, it was like, a real, like, I even said to them, it's not enough here to actually get anything off it. Yeah, do it, do it, and I was like, maybe, impressed this, a woman will like me, so I did it. That's really, really, I'll do a lot of drugs just, just like, just so women or anything. I do a lot of
Starting point is 00:31:47 drugs, just I'm comfortable enough to talk at a party and talk to girls, but I take too much and I can't talk, like, scare my way. Yeah, yeah, I kind of, I feel that. I'm definitely in a similar vein. Well, if I walk to a house party, I'm like, I need a yoke to enjoy you. It's been like, but then I'm like, well, yeah, just chew at the face. Yeah, yeah, and they're like, they're running away.
Starting point is 00:32:05 Remember that time her house party, and I won't say who, but there's a girl I thought, like, oh, just might turn in something. Then I fell in the pond. Oh, yes. Yeah, I remember that. They all call me squelch. Squelch, yeah, that's right. Just walk around and squelching around the face. Still going, like, so anyway, where are she gone?
Starting point is 00:32:20 Where is she gone? She's with the football. player isn't. I'm old squelts. Who's that? Tell me your name. I'm what I'll tell you. Say it clearly. I don't. I know her face. Tell me all fair. I know her face. I can show you if you show me pictures of our class from like two
Starting point is 00:32:36 years ago. Okay. I'll point her face like, that's the one. This is, how did we get into this? You asked me about my dreams. Dreams. You're talking about weeds. Okay, yeah, yeah, that's right. So, but okay, so they say you, I smoke weed and I dream. My streams are like sometimes are really intense but like not in a scary way it's like I'm
Starting point is 00:32:59 really enjoying how it unfolds like narratively and like it there's a lot of um there's a lot of moving parts like a sort of interweaves and then stuff is connected and it's like a it's like just watching like a I don't know very flashy Tarantino film or something sometimes not always like that obviously but that's what it's been like lately it's been it's interesting but what's really frustrating because like I'm a screenwriter so you know it would be great if I could synthesize some of these things but like when I try to think about them
Starting point is 00:33:29 afterwards it's like I can't remember them properly they're intangible but in the in the time of the dream it made perfect sense it's like explaining that great realisation you had an acid yeah exactly yeah there's no like what yeah what are you talking about
Starting point is 00:33:43 yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the water is big what you're talking about you exactly yeah like if you're on trumes that could be the most profound thing so profound that you would start crying and what people would be like, what the fuck you are? I remember my big thing I was I think it was shrooms or two CP or something like that
Starting point is 00:33:58 was that radiators like have like you know the things are top of them like rings yeah I was like that's like trees okay so you can tell all the radiator is by how many rings did oh okay yeah now I know it's silly now yeah I've gone to therapy
Starting point is 00:34:12 but at the time I had to try and tell everyone about it and no one got it because there's nothing to get like no it's a pretty hard one now to yeah it's pretty like deconstruct
Starting point is 00:34:24 what about you what are your dreams like then it's weird I will have I had a dream journal for a while and looking back
Starting point is 00:34:31 in that it was a lot of like friends run away from you not having friends yeah yeah it's like so clearly that was your
Starting point is 00:34:39 big fear it's very obvious oh my worries were back down like that's you know that's very every child
Starting point is 00:34:44 wants to be liked and have friends some weird sex dreams but like I was always like
Starting point is 00:34:50 walking in on something like I was never like doing the sex myself oh right right I have a very vivid sex dream of a girl in my old school like there's a noise in my closet yeah I was trying like deconstruct this Freud okay so there's a girl I hear noise in my closet
Starting point is 00:35:05 so open up and there's a girl I really like okay I almost say her name was a girl I really liked at the time and she's getting like fucked okay well just fucked by a gay guy I knew oh what does that mean
Starting point is 00:35:17 wow what does that mean that you have oppressed homosexual tendencies well we know that but yeah that's not a big revelation I don't know maybe that's how you see yourself as the gay guy fucking the woman boy was watching it
Starting point is 00:35:32 it's in the closet it literally was in the closet as well yeah that's another aspect of it like in some of my dreams like that's too obvious yeah like if you try to tell it to a therapist like I think you're lying yeah yeah yeah yeah nobody's that fuck tell me yeah what are dreams of it had
Starting point is 00:35:48 um one about a weird machine that you could go back and erase your mistakes and stuff like that but it was like in Victorian times and it was two gentlemen that was hanging out with
Starting point is 00:36:00 yeah um Jay going lightfoot that was what I remember that name like sure I don't remember much I remember weird little details yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:36:08 well as in Edinburgh all right I was drinking a lot and it sounded a little weird like Cronenbergie dreams like one very big one was a guy like getting his leg smashed because normally I have kind of like just pretty chill like now at the moment I'm pretty chill dreams
Starting point is 00:36:23 I'm kind of wake up and for a few minutes I kind of forget 100% like I dreamt McGregor won the match Oh really? And then I woke up and I was confused Because I thought he won I thought he had one and then gone back and like I thought this changes somehow I couldn't figure it like it takes a while
Starting point is 00:36:39 if I'd figure out the fact like it's not a dream anymore Yeah yeah So I get that normally like nice pleasant And like oh what Yeah oh Do you ever have to have have a memory where you can't remember if it's real or a dream that
Starting point is 00:36:51 it really because it's like something mundane but something that you remember vividly for some reason imagine we just start crying but it's just like yeah I do have that I have memories I have things in my head and I like am I remembering that or did I just dream that I don't know I definitely
Starting point is 00:37:07 I think with all my memories I've in my head the memories are more cinematic yeah I remember cuts like I remember my goldfish dying and in my memory my goldfish died and the next second we were outside
Starting point is 00:37:22 all dressed in black which isn't true we're all dressed in black and they're literally playing like like bum bum but like they're really obvious like funeral music
Starting point is 00:37:31 it's like a really quick cut it's like he's dead quick cut to like funeral that didn't happen so that's like weird like little games like that memory that's interesting yes
Starting point is 00:37:38 you can't end on like what my god how do we end it there my goldfish died well yeah but then we're like I don't know yeah dreams man
Starting point is 00:37:47 they're uh you talk for hours but let's not yeah you should we do dream cat i'm going to keep this a little day i'll keep a dream journal all right and then next week come back and read it and then we'll do some more analysis okay sounds good i'll have a lot of stuff about stabbing your mother brine you're like oh i don't know what's stabbing her with a pitchfork made of cox yeah yeah and i run the hotel and she's my what's that mother uh there's mother now yeah it's psycho, we're making reference to psycho if you don't get what is. Yeah, if you don't get that, then fuck you.
Starting point is 00:38:22 Happy Halloween! Spooktacular. That's the end. That's the end. That's the end. We're going to record a few more for Halloween. Yeah, sure. That's the end of the show.
Starting point is 00:38:33 We're going to try to get on a more weekly schedule. Yes, we are. When we get more settled in stuff like that, yeah. Yeah, when I settle into unemployment, I'll get right to the podcast. Okay. All right. Thanks for listening. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:38:46 Good night. Good night. Well, no, we should say the name, shouldn't we? Oh, yeah, this is... Well, I don't forget. I've practiced it. It's been so long to record that podcast. It'll be like,
Starting point is 00:38:54 this has been Brian and James fuck each other.

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