Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 5 : Dinner with the Zodiac Killer
Episode Date: October 11, 2018Dinner with the Zodiac killer...
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Drink, drink, swala la la, la.
Drink, swala la la.
Do you know this song?
I do not.
It's Jason Drullo.
Is it?
That's probably why I don't know it.
See, I knew you wouldn't know it.
I got you.
Yeah, you're...
Oh, no.
You've exposed me for not like a Jason fucking Darulow.
Holy shit.
Oh, my plan works.
His greatest hits are just fucking sampled from like every...
Like, he's a...
I knew this to get you going.
That's what we need.
You're the Bayer, I'm the Russian.
controlling you.
Well, no, I don't know Jason Darulam.
I don't know much. Some of the girls in college went to see him.
Oh, right. Okay.
And I pretend, because they're like, I'm in college now again.
I'm 203. They're all like 18 and 19.
Yeah, yeah. So now I'm like pretending like I know the stuff.
God, yeah. That's how I felt. And I went back when I was 25, so imagine.
Jesus, yeah.
You feel awful old, don't you?
You feel so old.
I don't want to sound like bad, but you do feel a real peddle.
Mm.
Sure. I mean, they're all.
1819 but like some of them
uh no
they're in college it's the minimum
age yeah yeah yeah believe me
I've checked yes
I've done my studies I've done my research
I need loopholes
May I dread
bring your attention to section
1A paragraph B
permission from the father
so what's the big deal
so you're back of college
I am yeah how's it going
it's going pretty well
what are you doing again
doing event management.
Event management.
Which makes more sense.
Sexy.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
All these sex events.
I'll manage them.
I'll be having sex and I'll be like, watch them.
Yeah.
Just handing out like cards for them to like fill in recommendations.
Yeah, making sure the noise levels aren't too high.
You know, all that sexy stuff.
Yeah, so I'm doing event management.
It's going pretty well, like.
Class seems cool.
There's no cons or anything like that.
That's good.
The lecture seemed good.
I did actually, I kind of like, I kind of embarrassed with a little bit this week.
Yeah.
We were in class at the computer.
all right and one of the girls was asking me for a bit help like do something on the computer
so i helped her and she was like oh you could be a lecture and then i went yeah it could be
fuck lorraine and did lorraine's lecture and she was in the room at the time oh my god she literally
like a character who sitting there like that and kind of looked up like that and did you say
uh did different lorraine no no i just went real quiet then like because she's actually one
that i went really red as well they're all saying when red oh which is like she's one of
and she's a really nice lecturer
and she's a very nice person
that's why when Ray's like
oh no I don't want to like
Yeah you get me
You're even getting a little red now
Yeah yeah
If she was a cunt
I wouldn't mind calling her a cunt
Which she's not
I hope Lorraine hears this
She's a lovely woman
You're great Lorraine
She doesn't not approve of my
Very classy
She doesn't approve of like
One the cunt's also the pedo talk
A minute before
Is that where we lost you
Lorraine
Yeah anyway
I'll get that Excel work done
Tomorrow
The only thing about that is
That offends me
is the way you pronounce it.
It's pedo, not peddle.
I'm offended by that.
I like the word pedo, but just to confuse people.
If I was listening, it's like, well, he's not pedo.
You don't know the American slang.
So you're back at college.
You feel like a nonce.
You got all these young people running around.
Yeah.
It's going well.
Yeah.
I'm going to spread this out during the podcast, but that's the first one now.
So the first few weeks of all that, you know, like the icebreaker shit.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
like fucking, yeah, you throw a ball
and then tell them your deepest
fear or some shit. Yeah, you throw and you like...
Yeah, yeah. Like, the
trust circle, they all
catch each other. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And like, the racist
people feel good about themselves for
catching the minorities. I didn't let her drop.
Yeah. So, is that what
happened? I didn't think that, oh.
I wonder how people relate to that.
I don't.
It's like the observation of comedy.
Yeah, I'm like, uh, Seinfeld
meets Farrakhan.
Anyway, so the questions.
Anyway, I love Farrakhan talking with you for one night.
Well, first question I was going to ask is, okay,
and we were asked this.
So we're asked series of questions so we're getting each other better.
Okay.
First question is, if you could have dinner with anyone in the world,
date or alive, who would it be?
Oh, God.
I'll be honest, I didn't proper think this out
I just said Cardi B'd give him a laugh
Okay
Didn't get much of a laugh
No
But who would you
I'm going to think about it's now
I'll let you answer
And I'll think about myself
Oh god
I also tell you the most common ones
Very surprised by
Okay
You see I feel obligated
Like I should say someone like
Who's the Dalai Lama
Yeah I just love
I love the guy's work
He's amazing
Or like some like Greek philosopher
Like Aristotle or so
Plato or some
Oh you know all these are great possible
but really if I were to think about it
who had I really liked to have dinner
with? Just because of what
like a huge deal he was
to me in my childhood? I'd probably go with
Jim Carrey. Jim Carrey? It's not weird
yeah, I know. It's like the worst
It's just like going... No, that's an honest. That's an honest answer.
But that's an honest answer because he fucking
was my idol as a child.
I'd kind of like to just have dinners like Jim.
Just what the fuck he had like.
I'd like it. His backcings don't cause autism.
Well... I don't care what your wife said.
ex-wife.
I would like to do if he was can,
but I feel like he'd be like, you know,
throwing food around and doing the other chaplain thing
we're supposed to for.
Yeah, no, I don't think,
and you know what, that would be,
I'd actually like to say that,
but, no, I think he's just like so,
he's become so philosophical,
or at least that's the image he's projecting now,
like, you know, everything is nothing,
it's all consciousness, etc.
Yeah, which is fine.
He's a tiring, though.
Maybe just, yeah, could you do another funny film, please?
It was surprising,
I still haven't taught
like a proper good answer
proper good one
Like if I like really off top of my head
Alright how about we go
Guilty Pleasure and then you know
I like to talk like murder or something like that
Fred West or something
I want to get like the bottom of like the story
And what's going
Fred I kind of know
I know Zodiac Killer
That's it's a Zodiac Killer
Because I know who he is
Then you'd know who he is
Yeah
That's interesting
I don't think I tell people
I keep it my own little secret
Yeah
Just for me
Like yeah my God
That was crazy
The Zodiac Killer
That's interesting
You got me in my mind working now
which serial killer I'd like to have dinner with.
That's a much better question, isn't it?
John Wayne Gacy, just like, what was it, the clown thing?
There's a, brought a real sexy Hollywood angle to the, you know,
never has child rape and murder been so.
Rasmataz.
Yeah, Hollywood dudes is like,
He was the killer clown.
Happy birthday do you?
John's home.
Ah ha ha ha!
So, yeah, you can sell it like, you see it.
John Wayne Gaisley, the musical
Yeah
Bar-da-Barr-da-da-da-da-da
Yeah
What the fuck am I talking about?
Hammer, hammer, hammer!
So the Zodiac Killer, that's a good one though
Yeah, yeah, because you'll know his identity.
Again, you can say that for Jack the Ripper,
but who cares?
Jack the Ripper, I feel a bit boring.
Yeah, yeah, true.
You wouldn't have to, like, the same.
There's a bit in From Hell,
which is a graphic novel about Jack the Ripper.
Yeah.
I read it when I was, I think it was in primary school.
I read it and it was the same weekend my granny died so I had a very big effect on me
oh right reading about just one reading about prost who's getting stabbed today and then
I got home to her my granny died I was like oh what does this mean oh it did you feel oh
this book of sin has smited my grandma I did a little bit it's like this is bad book you know
yeah yeah also I was like why is my willie hires because your granny's dead
stab stab stab but yeah but there's a bit in it near the end where Jack the Ripper who is
he's Edward Gull, I think
he's like a queen's physician in the book.
Okay.
Okay, they kind of explain,
they take a theory of who he might be in the wrong with it, right?
So the bit where Edward Gull is gutting this prostitute
when he has like this kind of weird vision
where he starts seeing like other killers
so he sees Fred West.
He sees like,
oh wow.
Yeah, it's weird vision in the future.
He starts seeing all these other killers.
Oh, so what?
Like serial killers were all connected to some higher consciousness?
Yeah, that's why he's going to point in that.
Yeah, yeah.
That's interesting.
Then like it's a bit where he's like in an office building
but no one else can see him,
but he's like he's swinging around his knife but no one else like and then like uh then he
he stuck him in asylum again wow yeah geez it sounds yeah a pretty fuck-up graphic novel
to read in primary school yeah i could talk about this with the zodiac killer
just your love of jack the ripper that's all you talk about i'd say he probably would
appreciate i wonder if he did i wonder if he's alive i don't know the timeline but what was he
i know i think the fincher movie oh the fincher movie well i was 10 years ago it's
possible I think he would have been like 90 or something maybe maybe I'm wrong again I don't know
I'd like to think he saw it had a wee chuckle to himself yeah god that's crazy isn't it that's not
how it happened do you know who most people said who say speaking of serial killers
they said Obama I was just thinking oh yeah yeah well when you said serial killer I was like
it's Obama yeah yeah take that welcome to Obama and I was just to Obama and I
I, you know, like, they like him.
I don't be the guy going, like,
what about drone strikes?
Have that while you're eating your cock-o-bang.
More red wine, red like the blood on your hands, Obama.
Yeah, but, yeah, yeah.
But, yeah, Obama, that'll be a good one.
Hello, Brian.
Would you like some lobster?
That's not very good, Obama.
I have to watch how I say this now,
but there is clips on YouTube
of Obama reading his all biography.
Yeah.
Have you heard about this?
No, no, no.
Where he talked about
Gat, people, street guys talking to him.
He does use to wear bitch in the N-word.
Oh, really?
Yeah, now he's quoting someone else.
Yeah.
But it's very weird to think,
that's the former president
and he's going, like, you're a bitch-ass.
He's dropping N-bombs,
whereas now the current American president
drops them all the time and nobody minds.
He just doesn't get recorded, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
Supporting brick.
Cabinna? Should we talk?
Should we? Or, should we watch where we
say, I made a great Brett
cabinet joke at a house party this weekend. No one got it.
It was very nice. What's your
Breckavenna, Joe?
Oh, it's in the, is it a heat in the moment?
Oh, okay, okay. I couldn't, I have
to say names and stuff.
It is, yeah, like. Certain people in the
certain people.
Yeah, yeah. Yeah.
It is the kind of bit of
news information that possibly could go under
somebody's radar over here
if they're just more
concerned about local stuff
You know
Not really
With the budget
Yeah
Yeah exactly
With the price of fags
What about
Sure, you man raped
I don't care
Yeah
Yeah
What is he
What's about the cans
Yeah
What's his position
Now that he's been
That like
He's high court
Yeah
Like a justice
Supreme Court
And also
Those guys can't be fired
Yeah
They're pretty much like
They're almost
Above the law
Yeah
Yeah
Above the president
I'm like
Yeah
Wow
So if you're in
You're in
That's why
There's a whole big thing
About nothing
Yeah
Skull and Bull
bones, baby. Yeah, it's very, very depressing. And it's almost like, yeah, very easy to turn yourself and go, like, that's, stay away from that shit. Yeah, yeah. But you kind of feel like you have to. That's the thing. It is very depressing. And it is. It's a depressing thing that somebody who, you know, there's all this heat on about, you know, possible sexual assault. It's just not investigated at all. And he's still free to, like, didn't talk to a lot of people. No, like a week-long investigation. They just brushed over it. Like, yeah.
Like, you know, back in the day, you could literally drown a woman, you'd be grand, you know.
Yeah.
Ted Kennedy, you know.
Chippa Waddock, is that what is?
Chippa Waddock.
It's such a funny name.
Yeah.
Chippewa for a horrific.
Welcome to get Chippa Wattuck.
Yeah, that's fun, does that.
Yeah, Ted Kennedy's water park.
Chippewa Wattuck.
If we get the armbands, underwater, rolls, rice, yay.
It probably wasn't a Rolls, I mean, I don't know what car.
It was some nice car.
A Cadillac.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
K to reenact.
Way!
Where did then Ted runs away for a while?
You didn't even have to put much effort into it.
Like, he didn't, like, she's walking and come back and, like, oh, she's dead.
Yeah, but they do say that's the reason he didn't get to be the US president.
Because that scandal.
These are fuck-ups.
They were very, uh, lads, lads, weren't they?
Just, like, drinking, very promiscuous and probably very misogynist as well.
Pulling trains and Marilyn and stuff.
Yeah, yeah.
one of their sisters was like
lobotomized
Is that right?
Yeah
I didn't know that man
Kept her in the
Dungeons
It's gonna say dungeon
They don't have a dungeon
They might have a dungeon
Otherwise
This current climate
I tell you
Yeah
Yeah
That's yeah
Breckham is that
Not a fun news story
Yeah no
It's not
You can't really play off it
Like
Ha ha ha yeah
No
Oh you can
Go on
If you're evil
Oh yeah
I'm sure there's lot
Behind the scenes
Like
Yeah probably
Probably
Probably
He's probably
happen to chuckle themselves.
Oh, I'm having a great time right now.
Oh, what was the next question?
I was going to ask you another question, all right?
Yeah, go on.
Oh, wait, can I just jump topic completely?
Go for it.
Because I was going to ask another question, but I just talked to something else.
So, I'm in the new college.
I'm trying to be better than the last time I was in college.
Last time, you know, that's a lot of drugs and fucking, you know.
Yeah.
How is this different?
This time, it's different because I am slowing down the drugs, and also I'm trying to
read a book every week.
Is that right?
Yeah, I'm trying to read a book.
So, yeah, we can...
A book a week?
Well, that's a long shot.
That's a long shot.
A book.
I'm trying to read a book.
Okay.
If I get a book done every now and again, I'm happy, okay?
So what are you currently reading?
I just finished a book called The Curious Instinct of the Dog in the Night Time, all right?
Curious Instant of the Dog and the Night Time.
Yeah, yeah.
Catchy title.
Yeah, yeah.
Really.
Won the Booker Prize, I think.
Oh.
It was a big deal back in the day.
It became a London show.
What do you call it, West End show?
West End, okay.
So it became a big deal, all right?
And it's about, and this is why I'm bringing up, because the listeners might not know this,
but it's about an autistic kid
I'm going to spoil the whole book
all right
okay
and you've got diagnosed
like mild autism
well yeah
I got diagnosed with
ADHD but also
showed signs of being
on the autism spectrum
on the end of the spectrum
yeah yeah like you know not
because I have a brother
two brothers actually
one is like he had ADHD really
bad when he was a kid
and then my older brother he's like
really he's got
like serious autism and maybe some other stuff so there's and it it was being it was easily
traced back to relatives like uncles and lying on my dad's side so history family history
of it there so yeah like i definitely have um you know just like things are difficult for me
eye contact is difficult like social situations i always need something to like stimulate me like
okay have a smoke have a you know right i'll have a drink just always need something to sit there
just sit there like just sit with my own thoughts is just impossible and that's why i indulge in like
all sorts of things it's funny how meditation is so difficult where it's literally doing nothing
yeah it's it's so difficult yeah yeah it's so difficult yeah it's not being on your phone
not watching hardcore pornography it's very difficult but yeah so i'm a little bit autistic like
the boy in the book no the boy in the book is fully oh he's a full so it'd be kind of like my
brother at the end of his. Yeah. So he goes to like special school and all that. So I'm going
to start the book as I said. Yeah. So basically starts off
dead dog. Okay. It gets your attention straight away. Sure. Sure does. Dog stab with a
fucking fort like a big thing. Oh. Dog gets murdered. Yeah. With like a big four with
a sprang or something like that. Yeah. Pitchfork. Yeah. The kids,
he's all autistic. So he's like, oh, uh, oh dog tries to
hug it all that stuff. Okay. Oh, but it's dead. Yeah, it's dead. So the police arrest
them. Okay. And they think he did it. Oh, fuck. Right.
Then, like, he hits the policeman because he's, don't touch me.
Don't touch me.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Hits the policeman.
Has a big instant brought down the station.
His dad explains it all.
Yeah, yeah.
He's like, okay, okay, you go home.
So that's how it starts.
Okay.
What's going on here?
Yeah, yeah.
Then the kid's like, I want to write a book about what goes on.
I'm going to solve the mystery of dead dogs.
I'm like Sherylac Holmes.
I like Sheryl Combs.
I like Sherylum's.
Okay.
That's pretty good.
Yeah, it's good hitch, too.
Yeah, yeah.
The book is his writing.
Okay.
Because it's his writing.
so like he's not going to explain like what the adults the adults like are their emotions are okay so every
now again he might be like she was yelling i'm not sure why yeah yeah and also he's really big into
mats mats calm him down yeah see just to interrupt i uh i heard that that autistics are good with
numbers and i failed ordinary level mats in my leaving search so you didn't get any of the good
no no i didn't get any of the good stuff like i'm not i'm no mercury rising uh what
That's, I'm sorry, that's a reference
to a Bruce Willis film
He protects a little
autistic child
He's like a genius
Is he like Baldwin though?
Maybe, yeah, I don't know
Alex Lee's, there's a child in like
Yeah, yeah
I think Alec Baldwin isn't
Yeah, he could be
He is on my watch that
I was drunk after a fight
And I watched that
Okay
Yeah, no, I wasn't in the fight
A fight happened
Oh, right
I was drunk, I was just standing there
awkward
Like, I was very like, hey, what's going on
Guys, there's a fight lift you going on
I was like, hey, hey, hey
Where was this in a gap?
No, it's in this student
apartment
Oh, right, I walked back
there was a big fight going on the car park and I walked back so and some of my friends were in a fight
I was too drunk I was just like I was probably in a low pose as well I was just like hey guys
what's going on it's all get along and like literally fist like into it away from my face like just swings by
and I'm like hey what can't we be friends yeah yeah that's all get along and I probably went
to home watch the last like 10 minutes oh yeah so yeah I don't um you don't get the numbers no I don't
get the numbers I just get all the really social awkwardness like social awkwardness is really
a big one for me i don't know how to it's it's kind of like i don't think i'm fully aware of how i
come across if you know what i mean like i'll say something and i think you know because of the
way i say it or maybe it's the wrong choice words it gets interpreted really wrong and people take
it on as hostile i get what you mean i i i'm like i find people maybe being a little like hostile
or uncomfortable around me because they think i'm like that but really i'm trying to be nice but
it's just so hard
again you get the strangles
I want to do that thing
it makes me feel like God
yeah
I get that sometimes as well
like I'm very bad
like getting how people interpret something
yeah yeah so if I send
text doesn't get answered
or like it's a weird kind of response
yeah that's she hates me
yeah no I'm the exact same I think though
that's her that's become quite universal now
whereas you know even like
you know people
with no learning disabilities
or mental health issues
probably feel that to an extent.
Well, this is something
that's literally soft off my head.
I'm not philosophy major, I need that.
Okay.
I taught a lot of autistic people
work in Silicon Valley
and design the internet.
Is that right?
I imagine so.
Oh, okay.
Well, people like,
maybe, sorry,
I'm using autistic as a by word
for just like awkward,
which I know people hate,
like, no Ron Functions is a thing about that
are people who use autism
instead of using the R word.
Like, just a lot of socially awkward
people have invented the structures
that we work in now. Yeah, that's
true. So maybe that again
I don't know what I'm talking about. Oh, so you think
that could maybe contribute? I'm
saying the phones are giving us autism.
It's about time.
Somebody said it, get David Ike on the
floor. It's the blacks and the Jews.
I've written a manifest
and I have
guns.
So anyway, it's this book, right?
He wants to solve the mystery
And his dad's like,
Leave it alone
And the dog's dead,
Leave it alone.
As he's researching,
he finds these weird letters
In his basement or whatever
From his mother
And he's like,
What, my mother died two years ago?
What's going on?
Turns out she didn't die.
She fucking abandoned the little con.
Oh my God.
Yeah, because he's being too,
not spazzy,
he's been too,
He was being too, you know what I mean?
Difficult.
Yeah, he's just difficult.
Yes.
He's been too difficult.
Like, you know, he hit his head off.
things and like memorising the bus time table yeah he was like so she left him that's horrible
yeah it's awful that is awful and he kind of forget it's a kid's book it's meant to be a kid's book but
you forget it so then he starts um going all difficult on the dad on the dad sure yeah and the dad's like
oh no what the fuck tries to calm down and the dad's like okay let me tell you the true all right
yeah your mother left me not just because of you also as a man involved as well okay
yeah next-door neighbor okay oh my god but then i start back
the other next door neighbor.
Oh my God.
He'll say all this is a kill.
I start banging her again.
Yeah, no condom.
Raw dog in that bitch, you?
But then the other
bitch I was writing
the fucking, the moment
I was riding broke up me so I stabbed her dog
and that's, so I killed a dog.
So then the sun really starts
going difficult. That is a very
disturbing children's book.
Oh my God. So the sun really
starts going difficult then and starts like,
you know, flailing about a bit.
runs off he's got a pet rat as well
let's throw that in okay
him and his pet rat run off
and um I think they steal the dad's bank cards
on my dad's and we tried
him and the rat are in cahoots
yeah is the rat sentient in it
there's an anthropomorphize
come on boy
come on
let's go kill your mother
strangles
so they steal the bank card
then they start living large
no no they run off to London okay
and after a while
I kind of get a bit
Midnight Cowboy
Everybody's talking about
He gets the biggest weird cough
I'm walking here
So it gets a bit
So he goes London bus too much for him
Sure yeah yeah
Sensory overload
Yeah do a cool thing in the text where
Instead of just regular text
Start to show loads of logos
Okay
The text keeps getting split up by like
Just weird like dots
And McDonald's logo
Right right
So he can't think properly
Because there's too much going on
Yeah yeah
So he starts doing those a number
He starts counting out pie
loads of times
That's why he likes doing
calms them down.
Yeah, yeah, and doing like weird equations.
I tell you, I can identify with the sensory overload thing.
I have a weird thing about, like, volume.
Like, well, see, I have, like, I had this, I've had, like, surgery on my ear and shit.
It gets, like, chronic conditions since childhood.
But then, like, when shit's too loud, it actually, like, I get a little dizzy and disorientated.
I'm kind of like, what the fuck?
I need to, like, snap out of it kind of thing.
So, I, you know, I definitely exhibit some of the sensory overload things.
Plus, like, flashing lights, I can't fucking take at all.
Like, you know, really fuck me up.
Yeah, he doesn't like flash nights.
Yeah, yeah.
That's one thing, London's so, like, big and flashing.
I would never, like, you know, have a fit or anything like that.
I would just, I would be like, fuck this, I'm out and leave the place.
Which is funny, because I do, would have fits around again.
Not like, it isn't very rare, like, right now and again.
And mostly it's on my own.
Okay.
Like, let's say, I'm working something in the computer crashes.
Yeah.
I was working a big assignment.
I think I lost everything.
Okay.
I would be proper, like, making weird noises and whacking my head off things.
Yeah.
Oh, well, like, I do that.
I definitely...
Well, in public, no.
Not in public, no.
I'd have too much shame.
When I'm on my own, I tell you, when I'm in the car, oh, my God, I'm just, like, screaming
at, you're a stupid cat, you're going to fucking...
I'm, like, screaming at someone from my childhood.
Like, something's just, like, memory will just see, come into the rust to the forefront.
And I out loud, I'd be like, oh, yeah, well, fuck you.
You're an alcoholic, fuzz, granny, you know, something like that.
And it's weird, like...
There's a lot of cars, is it?
Oh, I do.
I'm serious road rage as well.
I'll scream.
I'll be like,
you stupid,
fuck I'm God!
For like the total most
benign thing.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
I got a lot of anger stuff.
I definitely have a lot of...
I think it's suppressed it so much.
I don't even know about it.
Yeah, yeah.
But like, even, like, I would have said, no,
I don't, but coming here today,
driving your gaffe,
a lot of bikes and a lot of traffic
stuff with that, I don't even know where I'm going 100%.
Yeah.
So I was proper, like,
I want to shoot, like, if the bike,
and they hit me once a day was like,
I want to fucking kill his kid that I was like that kind of like I most I'll do is the
screen the word fuck like yeah that's it like I'll I'll actually direct them I'll say yeah I'll say
something stupid I'd be too scared actually say something oh god no I never like I mean the windows
are up I'm shouting in my car but they can't hear if you know if somebody beeps the horn at me
I'll give them the finger but that's a rare thing braver man than me yeah yeah I don't know
it's a self-sabotage thing maybe I want them to pull me over and kick the shit out of me
would be sexy yeah it would be show me a good time i used to always laugh of people in the radio like on
the radio especially news talk it's constant like talking with boys the cyclists yeah they're so
terrible i used to like but like driving around dublin is kind of like i do get where you're coming
from it is it is it's like there have been videos of like taxi drivers intentionally running over
cyclists yeah i've been circulating recently i missed that you have to send me that yeah yeah
there's a friend of me a friend of mine that showed it to me but like yeah this guy there's no way it could be
misconstrued, he saw him, he put the foot
down, and he mowed him down, like.
That's a bit much. It's fucking insane, like,
you know. I know George Hook said
at one stage that he hoped to get shot
or something like that. Now, that's him being
facetious. And then he says him about rape
as well, you know, he said a few things.
But, um, he's still on the radio
actually. Yeah? Yeah, on someday
something like that. Jesus. I'm a big radio listener
or something. Yeah, because I'm cool. Anyway, this
book. We'll get, we'll finish this
though. We're never you're at the end of it. Okay.
All right. Keep talking about
the book. Okay. So, he gets
to London, all right, and he's
walking around the place. He, like, once he says
he falls off and, like, you know, he's hit by a
train, like, his rat runs around, and, like, an idiot
he tries to, like, save the rat,
and then the policeman saves him, and he runs
a person of a policeman. It's just big, like,
they're more like a kid's book, you know?
Okay. After the horrific
dysfunctional environment
of home. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, like,
he gets to his mother's place dead, and she's all, like,
I forget his kid's name now. William or
something like oh she's like oh that's a good autistic oh it's my son oh my god he's like mommy then the dad
the guy she's way's kind of like can't stay here yeah i shut up oh mommy yeah then the police
come around like it's okay do you mind being with him oh he's my son like you mind being with her
she's my mother yeah and it's like then the dad shows up he's all like you fucking left for two
years what are you doing he's like ah yeah you killed a dog yeah he told me the whole thing and
he's like ah so it's like he's the villain now oh oh right
care that much
but imagine Fathers for Justice
people would be going a bit mental
that way
you remember like
they dressed up with bat
they're kind of quieted down there
you still all if you dressed up
Yeah I remember
yeah yeah Jesus Christ
I'm like getting up on like Bucking Palace
I think one of them broke into the Queen's bedroom
Are you serious?
I think he tried to
Of all the like movements
to like penetrate Bucking and Palace
it's sad dads
They were like
Oh I want to see him more
Or whatever the fuck
Batman
They're very fat like Batman
the stomachs
and the
fully covers
belly
and then
the judge
like
well he can have
the kids
then
clearly
yeah
yeah
oh I thought
he doesn't
kill the queen
so yeah
the lizard
queen
and then
well I don't
like I was enjoying
the book
up to it
and then it
kind of gets to
give a happy ending
bit
or like
well he is like
so he wants to do
his A levels
he wants to do his A levels
and like
they're like
oh he can't do
he able
you missed it
because it's like
you ran off
the London
like a
like a dunderhead
all right
so then like he's like
no
then he starts like throwing a bit of a fit and then they're like okay we'll get your A levels
so then he does his A levels then what age you see I I wasn't funny what do you have to be to do your A
levels isn't I like he's super smart though he's doing like two years oh okay okay right right yeah so then he does
he gets what he wants all right and then at the end he's like well mommy staying over a few days
at dad's house but she's leaving soon like yeah yeah and it's like well I'm gonna go university
and I'm going to do what I want
Like I ends like that
And I was like
It's such a week
Because I was like
I want no
I actually refer to be darker
Yeah
That is just not the reality
Of the situation
Because that it's weird
Like it goes from like
Dogs dead
Family strife
To like
Fucking lost in New York
He meets Trump once dude
Oh my good
Like that
So like
And then I got what I wanted
Yeah
And it all worked
There was no real lesson
Like
Yeah
He kind of had his fits
And like I know
This sounds bad
I know you're supposed to be like
oh yeah he keeps it's this young he's understanding but kind of like i would like something like
have some kind of sort of come up and maybe the wrath dies or something yeah they learns there's
consequences to yeah something like that for kids but if a kid reading that it's like oh i can just
like scream a lot and i'll get what i want yeah my mother will give me ice cream they'll do my
eight levels the big one he's doing his eight levels time was stabbing people i was like oh
are you serious yeah i just want to stab everybody jesus
i've never uh but it does give you good insight into the mind of
an autistic person.
Okay.
Because I've known
a few
like heavily
autistic people
and it can be
a tiny bit
like you don't
you don't understand
them like any
no no yeah
that's the thing
yeah
it's
you have great
respect for people
to work with them
stuff like that
because you have to have such
temperament
I wouldn't have that
at all
I'd be locked
yeah I don't have the patience
yeah
I'd be all power
to speak
we fucking say about me
is there any other questions
I'm gonna ask you
we're actually
we're doing well for time
so I'm gonna ask you
one final question
I was going to ask you where you see yourself in 10 years.
That's a very depressing question for someone.
And by that you've been me, clearly.
I hope in 10 years actually that this podcast becomes like a big deal.
We're doing like a podcast festival.
Oh, that'd be nice.
We're like being like just like cameras and stuff like that.
We're being streamed live and people pay to see like the uncensored video.
And we have like strippers.
We go like Howard Stern in the 90s.
Like, I'm still in Simeon.
Like, those old shows, it was so, like, just, like, she got her tits out of me.
Yeah, it's like, it's on the radio.
Yeah, yeah, back down is so different.
It's very easy, like, yeah, that's true.
Yeah, you got big nipples, don't you?
I do, Howard.
Oh, yeah.
So, yeah, that's my dream is something like that.
Probably not with all the, like, we get some lady scientists on, yeah.
Let them sit on the simians.
feminism yeah so i'll ask you one final question then um what kind of dreams do you have
i don't know these dreams dreams jesus yeah dreams that's a that's a big one okay i tell you
dreams i've been having lately you know what's interesting they say that people who smoke weed
regularly don't dream i smoke weed regularly i dream a lot like you stop smoking and then have the dreams
afterwards they're much more vision yeah i have heard that no i he still smoke weed regularly don't drink
need a lot to you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course.
I've tried to stop. I did a little bit,
Kett this week. I'm unemployed, so, you did
Ket this week? Only a little bit, like, just
Do you like it? I guess, it was
too little, like, it was like, a real, like,
I even said to them, it's not enough here to actually
get anything off it. Yeah, do it, do it, and I was
like, maybe, impressed this, a woman will
like me, so I did it.
That's really, really, I'll do a lot of drugs just,
just like, just so women or anything. I do a lot of
drugs, just I'm comfortable enough to talk at a party
and talk to girls, but I take too much
and I can't talk, like, scare my way.
Yeah, yeah, I kind of, I feel that.
I'm definitely in a similar vein.
Well, if I walk to a house party, I'm like, I need a yoke to enjoy you.
It's been like, but then I'm like, well, yeah, just chew at the face.
Yeah, yeah, and they're like, they're running away.
Remember that time her house party, and I won't say who, but there's a girl I thought, like, oh, just might turn in something.
Then I fell in the pond.
Oh, yes.
Yeah, I remember that.
They all call me squelch.
Squelch, yeah, that's right.
Just walk around and squelching around the face.
Still going, like, so anyway, where are she gone?
Where is she gone?
She's with the football.
player isn't. I'm old
squelts. Who's that? Tell me
your name. I'm what I'll tell you. Say it clearly.
I don't. I know her face.
Tell me all fair. I know her face. I can show you if you
show me pictures of our class from like two
years ago. Okay. I'll point her face
like, that's the one.
This is, how did we get into this? You asked me about my
dreams. Dreams. You're talking about weeds. Okay,
yeah, yeah, that's right. So, but okay,
so they say you, I
smoke weed and I dream. My
streams are like sometimes are really intense but like not in a scary way it's like I'm
really enjoying how it unfolds like narratively and like it there's a lot of um there's a lot
of moving parts like a sort of interweaves and then stuff is connected and it's like a it's like
just watching like a I don't know very flashy Tarantino film or something sometimes not always
like that obviously but that's what it's been like lately it's been it's interesting but what's
really frustrating because like I'm a
screenwriter so you know it would be
great if I could synthesize some of these things
but like when I try to think about them
afterwards
it's like I can't remember them properly
they're intangible but in the
in the time of the dream
it made perfect sense
it's like explaining that great realisation
you had an acid yeah exactly yeah
there's no like what yeah what are you talking about
yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the water is big
what you're talking about you exactly yeah like
if you're on trumes that could be the most profound thing
so profound that you would start crying
and what people would be like, what the fuck you are?
I remember my big thing
I was I think it was shrooms
or two CP or something like that
was that radiators
like have like you know the things
are top of them like rings
yeah I was like that's like trees
okay so you can tell all the radiator is
by how many rings did oh okay
yeah now I know it's silly now
yeah I've gone to therapy
but at the time I had to try and tell everyone about it
and no one got it because there's nothing to get
like no it's a pretty hard
one now to
yeah
it's pretty
like
deconstruct
what about you
what are your
dreams like then
it's weird
I will have
I had a dream
journal for a while
and looking back
in that
it was a lot of like
friends
run away from you
not having friends
yeah yeah
it's like
so clearly that was your
big fear
it's very obvious
oh my worries
were back down
like that's
you know
that's very
every child
wants to be
liked
and have friends
some weird
sex dreams
but like
I was always
like
walking in on something like
I was never like doing the sex
myself oh right right I have a very vivid
sex dream of a girl in my old school
like there's a noise in my closet
yeah I was trying like deconstruct this
Freud okay
so there's a girl I hear noise in my closet
so open up and there's a girl
I really like okay I almost say her name
was a girl I really liked at the time
and she's getting like
fucked
okay well just fucked by a gay
guy I knew
oh what does that mean
wow what does that mean
that you have oppressed homosexual tendencies
well we know that
but yeah that's not a big revelation
I don't know
maybe that's how you see yourself as the gay guy
fucking the woman
boy was watching it
it's in the closet it literally was in the closet as well
yeah that's another aspect of it
like in some of my dreams like that's too obvious
yeah like if you try to tell it to a therapist
like I think you're lying yeah yeah yeah
yeah nobody's that fuck tell me
yeah
what are dreams of it had
um
one about a weird
machine that
you could go back and erase your mistakes
and stuff like that
but it was like in Victorian times
and it was two gentlemen
that was hanging out with
yeah
um
Jay going lightfoot
that was what I remember that name
like sure
I don't remember much
I remember weird little details
yeah yeah
well as in Edinburgh all right
I was drinking a lot
and it sounded a little weird
like Cronenbergie dreams
like one very big one
was a guy like getting his leg smashed
because normally I have kind of like just pretty chill
like now at the moment I'm pretty chill dreams
I'm kind of wake up and for a few minutes I kind of forget
100% like I dreamt McGregor won the match
Oh really?
And then I woke up and I was confused
Because I thought he won
I thought he had one and then gone back and like
I thought this changes somehow
I couldn't figure it like it takes a while
if I'd figure out the fact like it's not a dream anymore
Yeah yeah
So I get that normally like nice pleasant
And like oh what
Yeah oh
Do you ever have to have
have a memory where you can't remember if it's
real or a dream that
it really because it's like something mundane
but something that you remember
vividly for some reason
imagine we just start crying but it's just like
yeah I do have that
I have memories I have things in my head and I
like am I remembering that or did I just dream
that I don't know I definitely
I think with all my memories
I've in my head
the memories are more cinematic
yeah I remember cuts like I remember my goldfish
dying and in my memory
my goldfish died
and the next second
we were outside
all dressed in black
which isn't true
we're all dressed in black
and they're literally playing
like like
bum bum but like
they're really obvious
like funeral music
it's like a really quick cut
it's like he's dead
quick cut to like funeral
that didn't happen
so that's like weird
like little games like that memory
that's interesting
yes
you can't end on like
what my god
how do we end it there
my goldfish died
well yeah
but then we're like
I don't know
yeah dreams man
they're uh you talk for hours but let's not yeah
you should we do dream cat i'm going to keep this a little day i'll keep a dream journal
all right and then next week come back and read it and then we'll do some more analysis
okay sounds good i'll have a lot of stuff about stabbing your mother brine you're like oh i don't
know what's stabbing her with a pitchfork made of cox yeah yeah and i run the hotel
and she's my what's that mother uh there's mother now yeah it's
psycho, we're making reference to psycho if you don't get what is.
Yeah, if you don't get that, then fuck you.
Happy Halloween!
Spooktacular.
That's the end.
That's the end.
That's the end.
We're going to record a few more for Halloween.
Yeah, sure.
That's the end of the show.
We're going to try to get on a more weekly schedule.
Yes, we are.
When we get more settled in stuff like that, yeah.
Yeah, when I settle into unemployment, I'll get right to the podcast.
Okay.
All right.
Thanks for listening.
Thank you.
Good night.
Good night.
Well, no, we should say the name, shouldn't we?
Oh, yeah, this is...
Well, I don't forget.
I've practiced it.
It's been so long to record that podcast.
It'll be like,
this has been Brian and James fuck each other.