Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 63 : Twelve Years a Slave
Episode Date: March 13, 2020Twelve Years a Slave staring Brad Pitt and the nice white guy....
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Sometimes they tie up the dick.
You ever see that in Pornhub?
No.
What, they tie up the dick?
Yeah, yeah.
Like, strap it to a chair and what, they play, Steelers' wheels stuck in the middle with you.
Well, I don't know why.
That's how, like, rabbis perform the brace, you know, like, through a circumcision.
I don't know why I came in a night.
Your dick's just screaming.
No, I've never seen that.
That'd be fun.
If you were, like, if you were going to circumcise your kid,
might not have a bit of fun with it.
Why not?
Yeah, yeah.
Any movie fans in the synagogue?
Well, I just the rabbi's like, you know, I'm a bit of a ped-de-f, I mean, cinephile.
You know a load of rabbi's got like, got STDs from like, oh no, sorry, they were giving babies STDs.
How?
Because the other way, is it a moyle?
A moyle.
Yeah, that's the person who performs the brisk.
And some of them, well, all the time, and some of them still do it in, like, some of the more orthodox, extreme parts of New York and stuff like,
that is they'll bite off the foreskin with their teeth.
What?
Yeah.
Jesus Christ.
Do you don't know this?
No, I did not.
Loser.
Yeah, they do with the old tradition like.
Because back in the day, like if you're on the run from Nazis, whatever, or Romans.
You don't have time to...
Yeah, yeah.
Jews have been on the run for a long time.
So they don't have time for scalples like that.
It's like, we got all circumcised as kid.
You know, improvise, you know?
Yeah.
Take a bite out of crime.
Yeah, well, we're...
Anyway, this is the podcast.
Yes.
That's a good little opening.
I like that.
So we're going to talk about
another oppressed group
in this episode.
My family.
We've handled Jews.
Yeah.
That's sorted.
Okay.
We brought that up.
Now, it's on to black people.
Okay.
So...
They're oppressed, you say.
Well, I mean,
I'm not sure of it.
You could change my mind.
Because I've been listening to a little guy
because an academic called Anthony Coomia.
And he disagrees.
Okay.
Well, the reason that we're going to be talking about
oppressed black people.
people is because you just watch
12 years of the slave. I watch 12 years of slave
I want to talk about because I think it's a very important movie
and I think
every year
it becomes a little bit more important
to show people these kind of films
I feel like
to show what we did wrong and how we can get it right
the next time right
no I feel like because I guarantee it
the major political change this country next 10 years
we're going to see like pure
alt-right hate groups
are going to spread up
in the stage
because of this podcast.
No, no, we might influence it slightly.
We might tip
at the balance slightly.
But it's not like you're going to walk around
with like pictures of us.
No, I imagine.
Yeah, yeah.
No, but like more hate groups
will rise in this country
and we're going to see like
racial violence,
terrorism.
Okay.
A lot of burning buildings.
Apocalyptics.
style scenarios
primary schools
would just get
eviscerated
in the upcoming
race war
casualties baby
yeah yeah
and and fair play to him
yeah yeah
no so like I thought
it's important to talk
about 12 years slave
it's directed by
Steve McQueen
oh yes
not evil Knievel
but I keep getting confused
with Steve
wait
Evil Knievel's real name
was Steve McQueen
no Steve McQueen
was an actor
oh yeah
from the like 70s
I assume
I always associate him
with evil
evil of some reason, I think, because they're both
like guys in the past, like, tough guys in the 70s.
That is a very weird comparison.
Well, that's why I just, I just think they're all...
Well, I guess I tell you, I'll give you this.
Steve McQueen and the Great Escape, he's zipping around on a motorbike.
Yeah, yeah.
Look, Ineval motorbike.
There you go.
I haven't finished Great Escape.
Have you?
No.
Well, I should watch that, finish it and talk about it on the podcast.
Yeah, maybe.
Then we can talk about another oppressed group.
The poor old Nazis.
See, people kept escaping from their prisons.
Oh, wow.
we did it again.
Well, the true victim, see ya.
Yeah, so it's directed by
Steve McQueen. Have you watched much of Steve McQueen's
films? He did hunger about
Bobby Sands. Hunger's great. I want to watch that
again. I might watch that for the podcast
as well. That'd be a laugh a minute.
Yeah, it'd be me describing hunger like
they have a 20 minute monologue.
Yeah. Another monologue.
And then he's hungry
and he's even more hungry.
He needs a sandwich.
Yeah, but oh man, it gets so grim and he starts getting like
kind of like lesions on his back and stuff
it's very hard to watch
did it go into like him
I forget now
I'm watching it how do they show him like proper
you know like Christian Bail in the machinist
like yeah he is very skinny
and gaunt in it yeah I don't think he's as bad
as Christian Bail and machinist but he's pretty bad
Christian Bail should have said he was doing that for Northern Ireland
Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
there's a United Ireland
I would have a sandwich
yeah yeah
I'm surprised hunger
like
every Irish person
should watch that
yeah
yeah
and then be up a tan
so he did
hunger he did
what else he do
shame
shame I love shame
shit it's but sex addiction
yeah I love shame
there's a bit in shame
where like he's so
gone with a sex addiction
he's getting sucked off
by like two guys
and he looks sad
I've been there honey
we got
letter Wednesday
It is funny
It's a film about sex addiction
It's like
His sex addiction gets so bad
That in the final few scenes
He's sex with a guy
It's unimaginable horror
As if like that
The producer just takes
Steve we've got some notes here
Now it seems that
Yeah
What's your problem?
I'm black
yeah
in his Stephen Queen's mind
it's like
the whole audience
start crying
when he walks
in that gay club
the people are like
no
we can never let this happen again
and he did a film
called widows
yeah I've seen widows
widows is great
widows is really good
you all about widows
I love about widows
I loved
when that girl's mother
is like
there's a website
you can meet cool gentlemen
they'll pay you
for you know
spending time with them
yeah yeah
what do have to
Zuma, just, you know, spend time with them
and you know, don't, you know, show them a good time.
Show them a good time. Be affable.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Why don't you try sucking them off for money?
I don't want to work. I'm your mother.
Yeah, it's her mother that makes her do it.
Yeah, that's every mother's dream, I think, is that.
I want to pip out their daughter.
Yeah, is that their mother starts sucking off.
It's like, you know what? It's kind of like, it's like the way, no way my dad's
a farmer. Yeah. And he wants me to be a farmer.
Yeah, yeah. That's what it's like for women.
all mothers are whores
yeah yeah yeah
and they want their daughters
to be whores also
oh I pass it on
yeah yeah
well can anybody prove otherwise
I don't think so
the mother is watching her daughter
like suck off some
Japanese businessman
she's like
there's my little girl
look at her go
the cats in the cradle
and the sail of a spoon
little boy blue
and the man on the moon
yeah
little girl blue
little girl blue
then she's
Japanese guy will be together then
Okay, all right
So let's just jump in 12 years of sleep
No, I've never actually seen it
Okay
Well, it makes to be automatically racist I think
I forgot one best picture
I did it, yeah, yeah
What is that 2012, 13? 13, okay
Unlucky
Oh, yeah
Lucky for everyone this film is like that
Especially poor old Solomon
Solomon's named the main character, okay?
Okay, who plays Solomon?
Who plays Solomon?
Oh, okay, I just wanted to hear you pronounce his name.
I think, Edge of the Fort is right.
I might not have got the first name correct.
No.
He's an English actor.
Apparently, like, he went to, like, English acting school,
and, like, two weeks later, Spielberg saw him
and something's, like, leave this fucking school.
You're coming with me.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
It's almost like he bought him.
That's what he did to the little girl in Poultergeist.
Yeah, yeah.
He just saw in a restaurant.
It's like, you're coming with me, sweetie.
Anybody who, any history buffs out there will know that it didn't end well for that girl.
She got raped so hard
Her anus fell out
Yeah, pretty much and died
Yeah
On the set of Jeopardy
I believe
That's why Alex Trebek got cancer
Karma baby
Yeah
But like I think that's
It's funny
That little girl
She got raped to death
And like she's the lucky one
I said Drew Barrymore
Had to go
And be in fucking
Charlie's Angel
Full throttle
So who's the real victim here?
The ghost that little girl was like,
whew!
I dodged the bullet there.
Okay, so let's just jump in this film.
Let's stop being silly and unwalk.
Okay.
Yeah, this is the film that's going to bring it all back.
Yeah.
You know, like, it's time.
Tell you the reason why I picked this film is because I was watching a review of it online.
There's a guy who like, he does film reviews,
and he was reviewing this.
And in the comments, it was insane.
It was all like, oh, I'm sick of fucking these films making white people look bad.
What about all the films that
Why don't make a film that's not about slavery?
Does one of those even exist?
Thanks a lot.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, it was like, it's like, oh, I'm sick.
I'm sick of watching a film about slavery
where to make the white people look bad.
Every time I turn on Cornetian Street,
it's just about slavery, we get it already.
It's like, I've talked to people who are legit,
like, you know, it's impossible to see a white person in Dublin now.
Well, I did say,
that but you know i was uh i was drunk under the influence at the time i was drunk in a britain's first
meeting the irish section of b in the irish chapter yeah very low attendance numbers i'm
not going to lie just you just me just you and a union jack no the union jack dress that
jerry hallowell wore in the spice girls just yelling that picture of lennie henry
It's just a still picture like, look, he's looking at me.
He's always following everywhere I go.
You broke Dawn's heart.
Oh, Jesus. Right, let's go.
Okay, so Solomon is...
Now, I don't understand the history this.
So he's a free man.
Okay.
He's black.
But he's in New York, which is a liberal side of America.
Right, right.
Don't ask me when this take place.
It's pre-Lincoln messing shit up.
Yeah, yeah.
It's back when slavery, apparently like slavery was around,
but some black people were free and some weren't
what determined that was it
I think it's like maybe
if someone bought you of slavery than your kids
weren't slaves either
oh okay right
and in New York it was way more common
just have black people that
you know
in the past had been bought
by nice white people who released them
or like maybe if they worked on a plantation
for many years or maybe they just escape
from plantation to south and they moved to New York
right there's many different ways okay
but it's funny because salt not
funny like ha ha
because Solomon's a free slave
and he'd be walking around the shops and stuff
in New York and like every now and again like
you see a black man
going around and he's like yes master
and he's still a slave for a white guy
like he's carrying the white guy he's like
you know groceries
groceries and like gold in
burning cross
a burning crossman of gold
you know like that
so he's he's doing great in America
in New York he's a fiddle player
or violin one of those gay instruments
both day instruments yeah yeah
oh I play an instrument
oh shut up
Lincoln was wrong
no no I'm joking
so yeah he's a musician
he's got a lovely wife
he's got two kids
lives in a nice little house in New York
so he's got a maid
yeah he literally walks around the park
and you know white guys were like
ah Solomon
top of the morning to you sir
he's like uh top the morning to you
whitey.
So he's loving it.
And then these two white guys show up.
And they're like, ah, Mr.
Solomon, a lovely day indeed.
We hear you play the violin quite
marvellously. Do you mind
coming to dinner with us? We'd like to
hire you to go on tour with us.
And Solomon's like, yeah.
These white guys seem okay.
And then the eyes like, danger, danger.
Like that, Solomon.
Yeah, yeah.
They don't care for the violin at all.
Yeah.
So these white guys bring him to dinner
And they're like
Yeah, you know, come with us on tour
And he's like, oh, you know
Don't be away from the family too
Yeah, on tour
Like what do they do?
I think they're
Are they musicians as well?
I think they're fancy actor people
Like, yeah, right
I think they like want to do a variety show kind of thing
Kind of like vaudeville
Yeah, yeah, yeah
And they can't afford the
They're not Jewish though
Okay
Don't ever say that
All right
Show some fucking respect
Yeah, yeah
A lot of minstrel shows in vaudeville
Yeah
They're trying to save a buck.
It's like, we don't need to buy any, like, shoe polish.
We'll bring old Solomon with us.
He'll even bust attitude on the fiddle.
It's a win-win.
It's funny if they went to Solomon, like, my God, your shoe-polished skills are so.
It's so realistic.
Yeah.
So anyway, like, they're like, come out to dinner and, like, it's obviously because
you know the way the film's going to go.
You're like, this is a bad idea, Solomon.
Stay away from those honkies, okay?
Yeah, yeah, those crackers are up to know good.
So it becomes.
like real get out situation where like
they're like oh yeah
have the have the dinner yes and drink
this wine
what don't we put something in it but don't
drink this wine and there's
just because there's mist coming
from the glass it's all fizzy
it's white people drink
this is wheatgrass
yeah you've probably never seen it before
but this is what it looks like don't worry
so like he drinks and he gets dizzy
and they're like ah our friends
friends seem to have drank too much.
Come here, we'll bring you to your
wink wink, wink, hotel room.
So what happens is these two
white guys, because they're a piece of shit,
white fucking scum.
Yeah, I was getting angry.
Yeah, rightfully so.
Yeah, I...
Sick of whiny always.
They sell them.
Okay.
They sell them to black slave traders.
It's like Pinocchio.
Kind of, yeah, yeah.
I've got no strings,
I'll be up, blah, blah, blah.
But they're just chains.
of strings into chains.
What a dark version of Pinocchio
where Pinocchio gets sold.
But every time he lies, his dick gets bigger.
No, anyway, go on.
Wait, I'm just turn on the power real quick.
Vam for a second.
Okay. Oh, you didn't turn on the power?
Yeah.
I was too excited about 12 years of slave.
Oh, well, that's understandable.
So, like, they sell them immediately to...
So it's back then, like,
you could literally sell a free man.
They'd be like, okay, we're taking this out.
Yeah.
And, like, obviously, the black...
guy's like,
I'm free and
like,
shut up.
So there was no
kind of way
to prove that
he was free.
Well,
yeah,
if you had your
papers or a white
guy could
identify you.
Like a lost dog.
Do you have
photo ID or
a white guy?
We will accept both.
But like they just
throw the papers
out there and
obviously like
if you just fucking
tie him up
he's not going to
find a white guy to identify him.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So they immediately
like put him on a boat
and they start
shipped them off
to
the south.
But it's a bad boat.
It's not like a cruise ship or something like.
Yeah, yeah.
You don't have Jimmy Buffett playing.
It's not a party boat.
It's not the impractical
Joker's cruise.
It's not like boat trip
with Cuba Gooding Jr.
Well,
it kind of is.
No, yeah.
That's the sequel.
Yeah.
They go back in time.
Yeah.
So this is interesting now.
So they're on a boat
and we immediately meet
Michael K. Williams.
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah.
And I think this is intentional.
I think Steve McQueen
disintentional, okay, so we see, because he probably knows
what we think when we see Michael K. Williams. Yeah. So you're thinking like,
oh shit, Omar's gonna fuck shit up. Omar's gonna fuck up these white guys. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
You know what happens? Omar gets stabbed. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Michael K. Williams
gets stabbed and thrown off the boat immediately. Oh, wow. Yeah. Okay. Yeah,
he, he tries to stand up. I think, I forget exactly, I think they're like trying to
rape a black woman or something like that. Right.
And Michael C. Williams is like, stop it,
and then they just stab him and throw him off the boat.
Yeah.
That's one way to deal with your problems, you know, I guess.
Yeah.
And it's so funny that he's fucking...
I don't even know if they're autistic or just racist.
They're like, these guys on YouTube, like,
that's not logical because slaves be worth something,
so they wouldn't have stabbed them and thrown them off the boat.
Like, these people are like,
actually, they wouldn't mistreat slaves
because it wouldn't be economically profitable.
Yeah.
The free market would have fixed them.
So I think that was like an intentional thing by Steve McQueen
You'd be like I'll give you a bit of false hope at the start
Where you think oh this is going to be like Django and Chained wrong
Okay yeah yeah
This is not going to be a fun revenge flick
Yeah
Where like Michael K. Williams gets two guns
Start fucking a little twink
You know
No
Okay
So also it's kind of interesting is
There's another slave on the boat
That's real like oh
You know I can't whittle him
these chains I'm gonna fuck I'm gonna fuck whitey up you know okay yeah we gotta rise up so then
they get to the port and there's a big fat white guy going like excuse me where's my slave
where's and the white the black guy who's all like I'm gonna fuck him up's like oh master oh
you came and gives him a hug are you serious yeah yeah yeah basically like hums his leg he's like
oh thank you master you save me and the fat guy I wish you gone into this more the fact guys
were like oh don't worry and like it's like rubbing his head oh really oh don't worry I was
look after you my good little slave and then they go off we never see him again okay you think
they were back in hope so okay and i wonder like was that a bit of comedy or was that like a comment
by stephen queen of like some people like they talk to talk but but then when it comes down to
it they actually yeah yeah some people actually kind of like it's way easier to submit
yeah and just pretend to be like oh i love my master than actually like because in a system
that's obviously like there's no way that guy's going to like rebel so
so hard he
end slavery
yeah yeah yeah
there's no way
he was gonna punch
a white guy so hard
to be like
you know what
we're changing a lot
you've made us see
the error of our ways
and this comes back
over and over again
the film
it's like
the system
makes everyone bad
okay okay
I'm not excusing
white people
want to say this
but it's like
there's a lot of people
um
in the film
that like
they use that an excuse
almost
for the white guys
are like
oh yeah
I'd love to set you free
but oh this fucking
uh
got bills to pay
yeah
oh this
system where we're both victims here
I tell you. Johnny Law on me
back I'd love to let you go and have a laugh
but I can't he do it pal
I'm getting the fucking ants
oh boy it's no
so let me just fill
so the slave owner
shows up
he's like a seller
he sells slave so he's buying his stock
I got two two slaves a two slaves a
back of three back of three
and sold
so he's almost like a used car
salesman. He gets the cheap slaves that
they've... Oh, you'll get
plenty of mileage out of her, buddy.
She's seen me through some hard time.
That's literally how to do it. You know
who's the slave guy in this? Paul
Giamatti. Really? Yeah, because when
you think a guy selling black people, you think
Paul Giamatti.
Tell you, a slave comes with a brand new air
conditioning, yeah, it'll blow right in your face.
No, he literally has the slave
standing around naked, and he's like checking the tea
and he's going like this 12 year old, he's like, yeah,
he'll grow up into a fine piece here. I'm selling,
of the real deal
hey I'm losing money on this
yeah
50 bucks you're robin be blind
yeah yeah yeah yeah you know what
you get this yeah you get
an old cripple one for free
how about that
he can still pull a bit
pick a bit of cotton you know
you only missing one arm come on
crazy eddies
hey if you need a paperweight
with a personality
we got the old cripple over here
yeah it's actually like
it's so interesting to watch
how like they're so dehumanised
that like they're just standing there
almost like statues
because probably these guys
they know like
they're probably gonna get hit
if they in any way put up like
they just have yeah
so just let this white guy
open their mouths
and like you know
like check to slap their buttocks
and like oh look at this
fine buttocks here you know
oh okay
yeah that's the sign of a good worker
and look these broad shoulders
yeah he could work
that massive cut
come on
he's your bargain
I'll throw the cock in for free
oh god
Yeah, so let's see, they have the slaves stand nude for the auction
And then Cumberbatch comes along
Bendick Cumberbatch again, like if you want to cast someone who owns slaves
Yeah, yeah
That sounds like he owns slaves, you know
I think his family did actually
Really?
I think yeah, if you trace it back his family had some kind of slave connection
Well, maybe if you trace it back they probably all did
Yeah, yeah, yeah
Fallon still is a few knocking around
They're called
they think roots are there of their own
they think they're there
voluntarily hell though
what's your name
it's Questlove
it's Questlove
Yeah I actually
Picture an idea of now
You know the way Questlove has the big hair
Love to leave him hiding a gun in it
And then he just pulls out and shoots
Fucking foul in the head
Falling would still laugh
Yeah
You put a bullet in my fat chest
he's slapping the desk and dies
So Cumberbatch buys him
And brings him to his plantation
The Cumberbatch plantation
And Cumberbatch is actually pretty nice
Is he?
Yeah, I mean like he still works him to the bone
And doesn't give him freedom
Yeah
What's part from that
But for a slave owner, he's pretty nice
You know, he even gives Solomon a violin
Oh, okay
Because Solomon's pretty like, you know
Pretty good worker
And like a few times like
We're like Cumberbatch's like
I want to do this
And Solomon's kind of like
You know if you did that
it would be easier and I would save you time
and Cumberbatch is like
jeez you're a mighty fine Negro
I tell you that you know
Oh okay
Yeah yeah yeah
You know I'm still gonna whip you
But here's a violin
You know
He's pretty nice to him you know
Right okay
And Cumberbatch is more kind of like
You know I got these slaves
But it's no reason why
You have to be too mean to him
I'll give him a nice little shed to live in
And you know
Yeah you know
They could have some water
That I'm pissed in
On Christmas
But Paul Dano
lives on the plantation
as well, yeah, yeah. Now, I forget
Paul Dano, he's definitely in the family.
I don't know if he's like a cousin of come back or a son.
I forget exactly, but Paul Dano is a piece of shit in this.
Really? Paul Dano sings
what I suppose you could say is a song
where it's literally just the N-word.
Okay. Yeah. Yeah. To a tune.
He put it to a tune and he just sings that
at the slaves.
Right. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I'm not going to sing it.
No? Yeah, yeah.
It doesn't matter how catchy it is.
You've got a beautiful voice, Brian.
I really think you could make it work.
It'd be funny if like Evichi before he died
was like, I'm going to remix it.
I think this could cut like, you know,
there's some parts of America especially
would really like that song.
True, yeah.
A Trump rally.
Yeah, yeah.
But Cumberbatch, like, he's actually so nice.
He actually gives them,
he lets them go to church
stuff.
Oh,
yeah,
like he,
he tells them
Bible stories and that.
Right.
Yeah,
yeah.
That's so nice.
Yeah.
Even though he's,
again,
he's still owning them.
He owns them
like their property
and not humans.
Yeah.
But apart from that,
pretty nice good.
And if you don't work,
he will just put you down
like a dog.
Okay, of course.
Well,
come on.
Look, he's a business man.
Yeah.
I'm starting to think,
Brian,
to be honest now,
you're like,
haven't listened to this.
I'm starting to really,
like slavery sounds pretty bad.
Yeah.
We haven't even got to the bad stuff.
turned around here bro I'm starting to notice a trend so far we're just on Cumberbatch
and it's like yeah you know what like I was like it's a bit like when I worked in the
that resort in America you know you live on site
you get whipped every once in a while they give you a violin yeah I was like I didn't
get violin this is bullshit wish I was a slave I'm singing the song
wish I was a slave okay there's one woman though she got separated from her kids when
the boss.
Oh, okay.
So they were like,
I'm not buying the kids as well.
Yeah, sure.
It's a package deal.
It's kind of like when you buy something
it's like batteries, not included, you know?
So, uh,
I don't know.
That's, yeah, I kind of didn't even know how to react to that.
I was like, yeah, anyway, um, let's keep,
stick to the script, James.
Let's do it.
This is, this is all written.
It's no improv.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
Uh, so she keeps crying.
She's missing her kids.
It's real heartbreak.
She's a very good actress.
She keeps missing her kids.
She's crying.
She gets to this.
stage where even the fucking slaves
are like, you know, we get it.
You know? Yeah, give it over.
Yeah, yeah. We all got problems.
So, she gets taken away.
Okay. And then Liam
Neeson comes to save her. No, no,
Liam Neeson wouldn't save her.
Are you the one?
She was my friend, you
bitch. Yeah. So she gets taken
away and I think Solomon at the stage is like,
oh shit.
Like, this is not just the thing of like, I think
Solomon still kind of like
look I'll work here
but I'm going to get out with this
like you know
I'm not it's not supposed to be here
I wasn't even supposed to be here today
oh it's like clerks
yeah yeah it's exactly like clerks
yeah yeah yeah
I imagine the Kevin Smith's version
of 12 years later
just Jason Mews
so yeah but then when she gets killed
she gets taken away in shock
because she's crying
oh yeah yeah
he's like fuck
wait who shot her
took her away
I think Dano
oh okay yeah
so I
I think that's when he's like,
this is like the final nail
I'm not getting out here.
Right.
This is going to be my life now.
So he,
okay.
Yeah,
and he kind of like gives up hope a little bit.
Oh,
really?
Yeah,
so he's just like,
this is,
this is my rotten life.
So Paul Donald keeps fucking with him.
Just constantly fucking.
Like,
he's like,
uh,
like putting up,
uh,
timber and Paul Down was like,
that's not straight enough.
Okay.
And he's like,
okay.
And so he puts up again and he's like,
it's not straight enough.
And the Solomon's trying to keep it together.
He's like,
because he can't talk back.
yeah to the master
like sir i'm trying my best maybe
it appears not straight to you from your angle
but from my angle i believe and he's like
you're talking back to you boy
you sassin me boy yeah yeah yeah so eventually
um solomon losing it's like
sir i think you're incorrect
I'm just god
yeah yeah yeah that's uh those are fighting words
so paul down will lose it then tries to whip him
and Solomon is like I can't handle this
So he, you know what he does, grabs the whip, whips Paul Dano.
Paul down, like little bitches like, ooh-hoo-hoo-hoo.
It hurts, please.
He's a bit like Dudley-Durzley.
You go from Harry Potter?
Oh, okay.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's like, ooh, it's not fair.
Yeah, yeah.
So, obviously, this is like a death sentence.
If a slave whips the master, like.
Yeah, I mean, you don't get away with that.
Yeah, yeah.
so like Paul Down was like
finally now I have an excuse to lynch you
okay like that so he puts
him and a few of his guys
put a rope around his neck
and kind of pull him up
and he's off the ground
but then one the other guys
is like wait wait wait wait we got to check with the mask
we got to check with Cumberbatch first
yeah we can't this is like this is property
okay it's funny like even the good guy
he's like he's not like this is a human life
he's like way this is like
breaking someone with lawn more
yeah
because then we're all out of pocket
if he comes off
yeah yeah yeah
so what they do is
and this is like
such a
they draw it out for so long
it's so uncomfortable
to watch
they leave him there
where he's got like
one foot on the ground
oh so he's just
barely yeah yeah
so he's like he's like
with his toes
tippy toes
yeah he's okay
he's okay
for being strangled
yeah yeah but just
yeah so
and he's still
kind of swaying
and they
I'm not exaggerating, it's like four minutes of that
because they slowly walk to the house
to check with Cumberbatch
and what's so powerful is
so he's there on his tippy toes
other slaves still working
they don't
yeah what are they going to do like
a lot of them are older
like they've been there longer
they're probably used to this
and they're probably used to just keep your head down
if you try and do anything
you're going to get a whipping as well
one girl
slave is like
and she's taking a big risk there
to give them a little bit of water
Yeah, she runs over
Gets him with the water
and runs away again
in case anyone catches her
Yeah, yeah
So then
they finally
Cut him down
And Cumberbatch is like
Look
You know, I'm a good guy
You know
I'm your buddy
I'm actually one the best white guys around
You know
But I can't
I can't have you here
Have you seen Patrick Melrose
Very good
Very good
You'd like it
I think
Um
You're Sherlock
Well I can deduce
You're about to get lynched
elementary my dear Watson he's fucked
yeah but he's basically like look I like you
but you know I can't even protect you here
like Paul Dano
yeah like I can say don't do it
they're going to do it and if they don't do it
straight out you're going to have an accident
they're going to accidentally you know fired
or gun into your face
nine times
with reloading you know like that
or you're going to drown the river or something like that
you're not safe here so I'm going to sell you to
Michael Fastbender
Yeah, yeah
Okay
And he even says like
By the way
Michael Fastbender
He ain't nice
Yeah
Okay
So let me just
Check where I am now
So Paul Dano
So I imagine Paul Dano's pretty upset
Yeah
Paul Dano's like jumping in the air
Going
Rootin, toin
Ah
Oh I want to get my hands on him
And we never see him again
Which is a shame
The way this is set up
Like it's like him going
different plantations so like you don't never go back to Cumberbatch and that which is like I know
it's more historically accurate but you would love to see like a sequel where like you know
Solomon meets a cool guy called Django and you know they go for a little uh little bit of revenge
you know okay I get you yeah but sadly not that doesn't happen yeah so it's more historically
accurate but it's not satisfying to watch but that is well depends on your worldview I suppose
I suppose if you have a maga hat on
and an air horn
like, yeah, do, do, do, do.
That's fun for the whole family.
Look at that boy.
Yeah, you want with your little son.
They're like, yeah.
Someday, you know.
You'll be Paul Daniel.
Yeah, yeah.
Someday.
Remember the song?
I taught you the song.
Sing it.
Okay.
Now, Fastbender is not a good slave owner.
He's a real jerk.
Yeah.
he
he not only doesn't make them work hard
he also makes them dance
oh yeah
so during the day
he'll make him pick cotton
and at the end of the day
he'll do like uh
break dance competition
no no he'll do a count of the cotton
okay and whoever picked
so if you're under a certain number
you have sleep outside
and if you're over a certain number
like you can sleep inside
you know and if you're under certain number
it's like what's wrong with you today
or if you're even lower than yes
it's almost like working in the office
uh no it's not
but it's kind of like
you know you're you had these numbers yesterday
and you're down
yeah what's wrong with you
okay even if it's a very high number
if it's less than yesterday
it's like yeah you're sleeping aside
oh okay
so you always every day it has to be better
yeah yeah yeah
it's kind of like capitalism
away it's like it's like it can't sustain
like you just get bigger and bigger
like it's gonna collapse like yeah
so and that's during the day
and at night he's like
yeah bring him to the house
and make him dance while just drink
fucking I don't know what to be drinking back down
like moonshine or something
She was drinking moonshine and watching
Like, hey, look at them dance
Yeah, I'm having a great time
Yeah
I got a big dick and a load of moonshine
And I make my slaves dance
Because I'm deep down, I'm sad
Yeah, I've seen that exact Tinder profile
His wife is Sarah Paulson in this
And Sarah Paulson is the typical white woman
Oh yeah, basic white bitch
Yeah, yeah
She is actually worse than him in it
She's like a lady Macbeth
where she's like,
you're going to let your slaves talk like
to you?
Oh, yeah.
There's a few times in it
where like, let's say
one of the slaves is like,
I don't want to dance.
I'm real tired.
Sarah Paulson's like,
you're going to let him not down?
That's disrespect.
Are you even a man?
Yeah.
That's what she said.
Dicks tiny, isn't it?
She literally says stuff like that to him.
Like, yeah, yeah.
That's what we've been doing,
Brian.
All of them.
They're all the same.
There's actually,
does, one, the girls in this,
she's played by Lepita Nyongo.
She's, she's,
writing this
yeah yeah
yeah she
I said it right
yeah
god I feel great
yeah
I can walk around
Africa now
saying that
the entire
continent
like just bragging
like
and you want to hear
me say names
to which the edge of the
edge of the floor
yeah
and they're like
what what are you saying
I'm just like
I just walk into like
I'm in Africa
and I walk into like
some store
and they're like
can I help you
and like
to which
to which the edge of
Lepita Niongo
Isle 3
There's one girl in
She's a slave
Patsy I think her name is
Yeah Patsy, okay
And Fastbender's a bit of a thing for her
Okay, right, right, right
He's like, geez, Patsy, my best slave
Oh, she picks the most con
She was a girl and she outpicks all the men
Oh, my Patsy
And he's saying this he's like rubbing her, you know,
Face and stuff like that's like
Like a bit of a George Washington vibe here, is it?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely.
Oh, yeah, exactly, yeah.
all you're missing is the wig is the white wig like and then you know what's so no it's so
fucked up like Sarah Paulson gets so jealous by the way he talks to Patsy there's literally a bit
in it where like they're dancing and like Fastbender sitting down drinking moons trying
have a great time yeah and Paulson loses shit gets up and smash the bottle on Patsy's head
yeah and when um when fastburn fastburn's like hey what you doing like hey that's my favorite bottle
yeah yeah he's like oh oh
women.
I've got to clean that up now.
Oh wait, no, I know.
I've got slaves.
There's actually the other bit in it
where like Paulson
is talking about her cooking
and is serving like,
this is the food,
even though the slaves made it
and are serving it.
But she's like, yeah,
well, I'm technically I made it
because I got the slave to do it.
I set the menu.
Yeah.
Paulson is such a fucking awful white woman
in this film.
Yeah.
Oh, God.
Hate that.
And you know what?
She'd be the type of woman as well,
I guarantee you that like,
if this is modern day
and slavery is still around,
she'd be like, you know what?
A woman should be a woman should be
was to whip her sleeve
just as much as a man
you know
I'm all about quality here
yeah
posting a fucking gift
from drag race
it's slay
yeah
but literally
I was about to say
she loves Lizzo
like no she wouldn't love Lizzo
she liked the music of Lizzo
and she'd find
to see a picture and go
oh no
she'd see a music video
where's my bottle
it's Patsy
okay
yeah
Patsy's revenge
yeah so um yeah and then like we find out that he actually is he's having sex with yeah he's banging
yeah yeah he's banging patty yeah and um uh patty at one stage literally asks solomon the killer
oh really yeah because he's like i can't escape from this um i don't want to have his child
uh please kill me and and you know solomon's like hey i kill you i get killed as well yeah yeah
this system like we're both fucked
go kill yourself
typical women
always relying on men
oh I should mention as well
Solomon can
I'm joking by the way
just so everybody knows
why are you winking
why are your fingers crossed
holding up a sign saying not joking
hashtag hate them all
hashtag free Weinstein
oh 23 years
he'll be out in six
the number 23
Jim Carrey
predicted the whole thing
So I should mention as well
Solomon can read and write
Okay
Which none the other slaves can
But he's keeping that a secret
Because that might help him escape
Oh okay
Yeah
So for instance like
He like starts a blog or something
Somebody will come and rescue it
Like gossip girl
Yeah
So there's a bit in it
Where like she gives him
He's been with
for a while with Fastbinder and they trust him so much
to send him the store
to get groceries
and he's like
store this is my chance to escape
so he gets to
the list of groceries and he's like
just runs the other way
and as he's running like he just sees
a bunch of guys distance he slows down
and literally some white guys like lynching a few
black people yeah yeah
and they're kind of like
you go anywhere son he's like
I'm going to the store
and they're like
well good luck to you
and then that scene
kind of represents the fact
that like Solomon's like
I can't escape from here
Like if that
Where's he gonna go?
Yeah
I'll get caught by someone
I'm in the fucking south
It's not like
Oh the border's like
Right there
I can just jump over them okay
It's like if I go
I left the plantation for two minutes
I saw people getting lynched
Yeah
I'm not gonna go out of it
Yeah
Yeah
The only didn't get lynched there
is because he's holding the fucking
shopping list
Like I'm just doing
shopping for the up there
For Mr. Fastbender
He was in shame
He played Magneto
and X-Men
first class and they're like he was a good
addition to the ex family
free bride singer
but he's not in jail
I know he should be
he's Thailand I believe
oh of course yeah
so anyway like
it's not going well for Solomon
and that's an understatement
so you there yeah
but
he's down in the dumps
so guess what happens okay
let's see what we're doing
we're 40 minutes already
all right wow yeah we're
We're, you know, we'll run through this.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
So guess what happens?
They hire a white worker.
What?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
He's some drunk alcoholic guy.
Okay.
And he's like, yeah, I'm such an alcoholic.
I've ended up working with the slaves.
Jesus.
And they actually put him living with the slaves as well.
Is he American?
Yeah, he's American, like, yeah, but he's a real alky.
Right.
Yeah, he's like, yeah, just, I just, he's like a bum.
He just travels around and he works in, like,
a different place for a while and then move on.
Kind of like Charlie Chaplin, you know, the tramp.
sort of walking around.
Yeah, yeah, he fell over a suitcase and he did a lot of pratfalls.
Who plays the drunk?
Not somebody famous.
It's someone, it might be Scootie McNara.
Oh, yeah, Scootie, yeah, Scootie is in the film.
I think he's the white bum.
Okay.
He might be someone else.
I could see that.
Yeah, I think it is Scootie, but, you know, if I'm wrong, you know, don't.
Yeah, that's the only thing in this episode, people get annoyed about it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
That wasn't scurred McLeary at all, you idiot.
I didn't mind when you sang the song.
It's my ringtone now.
So, yeah, so Solomon sees this as his chance.
So he's like, the white guy, the white alcoholic.
He's like, listen, I can actually write.
And the white guy's like, what, blah, blah, what?
You know?
And he's like, look, I've written a letter.
I want you to send it.
Okay.
And the letter is kind of like, he sent it to New York going like, listen.
Come get me.
Yeah, because, yeah, yeah, save me.
Save me.
He's right until Lauren Michaels.
Yeah, please let me audition.
Put me on SNL.
Yeah.
It's the only safe place in America.
If Keenan could get work, surely I'll be fine.
Oh, now people would get upset over that.
I love Keenan's house.
Yeah, yeah.
I'm a big fan of Keith.
Come on now.
Whip your ass.
He would, he would, and he's hilarious, and he's great.
He can do a sketch and, like, he'll have one lines.
Like, you're way funnier than, like, everyone else.
He literally, as soon as he's in a sketch, it's automatically better.
He really carries that show
That's the failsafe
For all the directors know
Like if his sketch is dying
Just cut to
And in his ear
They're like just make a face
Like what?
Yeah
You know like that
But anyway
Like enough keen Tom
Just get back to slavery
Yeah
So he's like
Not the first time you've said that
Yeah
So he's like
Solomon's like
Listen
White alcoholic guy
Please send this letter
Don't sign anyone
Okay please
Yeah
Okay
And well the important thing is
though
He doesn't give him the letter
straight away. He's like, I want you to send this letter.
Because he's like testing the waters first. Right. Okay. And the Wicke is like, yeah, sure,
I'll send a letter. Oh, wink, wink. You know like that. So the next day, Fastbender shows up.
And he's like, so, uh, someone tells me you can read and write and send letters now. Is this true?
But Solomon thinks quick. He's like, what, you're going to believe that dumb, uh, drunk?
Yeah, he's just making lies because he wants you to put him in charge of us.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, and it's a real tense scene
because you can tell Fasperner's like,
who do I trust an alcoholic or a black man?
It's Sophie's choice all over again.
Who do I trust?
An alcoholic, white guy who's fucked up his entire life?
Or an educated black man who can play the violin?
Yeah.
Oh, God, this is a noodle scratcher.
So he actually, he goes for Solomon.
He believes Solomon.
Then the next scene,
is Solomon burning the letter he wrote
Yeah and then again it's like
Oh God Solomon can't
Solomon can't catch a break
Oh no oh you ve
Okay
Does he go up to the drunk
Be like what the fuck man
No they fire the drunk
Oh okay
Yeah yeah
You can fire a slave
Well he's a white guy
Oh okay I guess
He wasn't like I think he was actually getting paid
Oh alright
He wasn't a slave
He was just like
Work in there
Yeah what probably happened
He was like
Not just
stay here
I'll work from my keep
for a few days
and we're like
yeah we'll fucking put you at
somewhere
but we're just gonna let you
with sleep at the slaves
like
we'll throw you a few
fucking coins
like because you know
you're human
unlike these non-humans
I can play the violin
with the reading
and writing
that makes me sick
that's why I hate New York
so next scene
more for mad TV
myself
next scene
they hire another white guy
but this is a more
educated white guy
they need
because they're building
something
and it's like
an architect
something like that
like he's like
helping out
with the design
of the building
can't Mosby
from how I met
your mother
no it's actually
Brad Pitt
oh okay
yeah
Brad Pitt is a
real conundrum
this film
okay
because you cannot
I maybe it's
because I knew
he produced a film
his company made it
yeah
but it's so obvious
like he shows up
and immediately
like you know
I think slavery's bad
and someday
they'll come a time
where they'll make
slavery illegal
and maybe
then they'll
elect a black president
and maybe then he'll serve two terms
and he won't shut down Guantanamo Bay
and I'll marry Angelina Jolie
and she'll be let's say difficult
let's be
diplomatic here
she will not be fun to be around Witton near the end
she'll make me star in a movie she directed
and it'll get panned
she'll make me adopt lots of kids
that are similar to the ones that you own
but none of them can read or write
So it's a real pain in the air.
So basically, like, they hire Brad Pitt,
and Brad Pitt is, like, you know,
spouting all this nonsense.
This absolute dribble, this nonsensical garbage.
Yeah, yeah.
No, but he's very woke.
In Fastbender's mind.
Okay.
And fast being like, what is up with you?
And he's like, I'm Canadian.
Oh.
Which is even more question.
At the start, you're kind of like,
Brad Pitt's not really doing a loop.
They're all, like, doing southern accents.
And Brad Pitt isn't.
He's just Brad Pitt.
Okay.
And then they say he's Canadian.
you're like, it's not doing a Canadian accent
either, it's just Brad Pitt.
Yeah.
So anyway, like Brad Pitt gets to be the hero to film.
He's like, so
what happens is Solomon hears him
going all this fucking woke bullshit.
Yeah, okay.
And Solomon was like, oh, maybe I can trust this guy.
What are you trying out for a tight five
in the car store?
What's going on?
UCB.
So he's like to Brad Pick,
you send the letter and Brad Pitt's like,
of course I will, because I'm one of the good white guys.
Okay.
I'm Brad Pitt
God damn it
and I'm a good white guy
so then
Brad Pitt sends a letter
and I actually
looked this up
it turns out
Brad Pitt was meant
to play the
Fastbender role
but he didn't want his kids
to see him
in a real bad role
like that
like a racist guy
yeah
yeah
which you know what would have been
better I think
if they cast Paul
Dano in that role
it would have made
more sense of the young guy
to be more liberal
yeah
yeah
and maybe like
he's from New York
and he's down
he's a real successful architect
from New York
like to travel around America
and he's like he heard
these fancy ideas
but because it's Brad Pitt
you're like
I don't think
like he's such a
you know
he's such a huge commodity
that like regardless of not wanting
his children to see him as racist
I imagine studio executives
didn't want Brad Pitt
to be like screaming the N words
you know what I mean
because he's like too much
of a everybody loves them type
you know pretty boy
handsome. Don't give me wrong, very talented actor
like I like Brad Pitt, but he's too much
it's kind of like casting Tom Hanks
as like a racist, you know?
Yeah, oh my God, if they'd cast
Tom Hanks and a Paul Danna roll
Oh my God
Oh, someone could do some funny redubs
It's slavery! There's no crying and slavery
Oh, someone could do some very funny edits
with Toy Story 4
no i'm not saying i think uh actually i should also say as well
that i want to go back to the same was talking about the way systems can corrupt everything
yeah uh michael fastbner so vindictive he actually gets solomon to whip patsy
oh yeah and that almost like a cooking situation that that he likes watching another slave
whip a slave like his woman yeah yeah yeah on the side yeah yeah yeah yeah
Actually, and also I skipped this as well.
Geez, I'm skipping a lot.
He gets Patsy pregnant and she is a kid.
Oh, right.
And he actually likes the kid.
Is that right?
Yeah, he's all like, yeah, it's like, oh, look at my little kid.
Oh, yeah.
Get back to work.
Patsy, clean up this placenta.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
The idea of like she's literally just giving birth.
It's like, anyway, start dancing.
Everybody dance.
Yeah, yeah.
so Brad Pitt sends the letter
to New York
and then a man comes by
from New York who he met earlier in the film
just some random white guy
white guy was like top of the morning to you
Solomon yeah
yeah yeah yeah yeah and he's like
oh I do believe that's Solomon
Solomon my dear boy
I haven't seen you in 12 years
now one thing I have to say is they don't really
specify the time in this
if you told me it was six years
I believe you if you told me it was a year
I believe you.
You never really get the sense
of the passing of time in the film.
Which, I know, maybe
it would be a bit cheap, but maybe to show
like a few Christmases, like a montage.
Which is like a close-up of a calendar
with the page is falling.
When the days become, the weeks
become the...
And didn't say the end word.
Yeah, yeah.
But like, when they say 12 years,
like, oh yeah, 12 years to sleep.
Yeah.
God, I'm a fucking idiot.
Oh, and I was silly Billy.
Anyway, back to slavery.
So he's like, my word.
And the sheriff is there as well.
And he's like, are you sure this is a free man?
He's like, yes, it is.
My dear boy, it's Solomon.
Oh, Solomon.
Oh, what have they done to you?
Okay.
And the sheriff's like, okay, because this white guy identify you, you're now human.
That's how it works.
Yeah, yeah.
It's Hollywood, baby.
And then Fastburn is like,
it's my property get away.
And the sheriff's like, sorry, but, you know.
look if it were up to me
hey you know don't worry
but this
we got this guy over here
this New York
fucking liberal Jew
over here
oh this fucking
he's all they got shit
kill us fire
oh this piece of shit
New York Jew over here
to think they're better than us
trying to take away our slaves
so yeah
so then
the New York guy
they hop on a little
I think it's a horse and car
or something like that
or yeah they hop in that and they go away and all the other slaves are like watching them
and it's kind of like solomon's like well better you you know better me than you yeah it's
like what am i supposed to do here yeah top break yeah i'm out i mean what what's solomon like
and it's kind of like like what solomon's supposed to do here but also like you do feel
shit and solomon probably feels a bit shit as well it's like these people like he's become
friends where he's known for like how many years like and patsy's there and like patsy's still
trapped and there's nothing he can do yeah well
well look
Sunday you do
you gotta just
yeah
gotta take his chance
to be free
I mean
he's put 12 years
into it
yeah
yeah what's supposed
to go to that
New York guy
no I'm gonna stay here
until I
you know
fight the power
yeah
I'm gonna try and run
for president
yeah
I'm not allowed
buy fucking milk
but I'm gonna try
become president
so Solomon
goes back to New York
and this is the
heartbreaking thing
he goes to meet
his family
his family
being informed
he's coming back
and he walks in and he's like oh I'm so sorry
it's been so long and then like
his wife is there and there's another guy
he's like who's this and uh
the wife's like this is my new husband
he's like oh what and then she's like
and this is your grandson and it's like
what the fuck yeah yeah he's got like multiple
grandkids now and it's like there's a whole family
because it's been 12 years like
and they just seemed he died
right okay yeah they assumed like
oh he just disappeared
It's kind of
Maybe that's what happened
to Madeline McCann
It's like
She got sold
into slavery
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Well a certain type of slavery
Yeah
Yeah
Oh
Sexy Canada
Oh
It's awful
Yeah
It's like
What are they supposed to
Like she's not supposed to
Like just
Look at a fucking
picture of him
For 12 years
Yeah
She gotta get some dick
You know
Yeah
Yeah
So Solomon
Solomon
Like
Doesn't even care
At this stage
Yeah
I just
I'm just happy
About my kids
And my grandmother
father now. And then
it cuts the text
and it says that Solomon later
went to write a book about his adventures
called 12 years of slave.
Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah. And we
still don't know how he died. Oh,
because the record's so poor back then.
You don't know how he died? Yeah, the only records
they have of them really are from that book and from
like, you know, like, you know, maybe a little bit,
maybe news article like from the south going like
slave gets freed, nation angry.
It's an outrage, says Mr. Fastbender.
And then the quote from Cumberbatch
It's like, I gave him the violin, didn't like him
And the quote from Dano was just
The song again
The quote from Dan was just
An star sign
Exclamation point
Hashtaguer Yeah
And that's the end of
12 years stay
Yeah
Not really a happy ending
Not really a feel good film
No definitely not
Again depending on your worldview
Depending on your political leanings
For some people
They were like
I loved it right until the last 10 minutes
For some people
It's like yeah
That New York guy's a villain
There's a guy I know
His favorite film
His American History X
But he definitely likes it
For all the wrong reasons
Oh I actually
All the wrong reasons
I know guys like that as well
Yeah
We're literally like
At the point where Edward Norton
gets reformed
They turn it off into school
Yeah yeah
It's the greatest movie ever
Up until the last 20 minutes
They're like what a pussy
didn't stick to his ideals
Yeah
What a quitter
Do you know what stuff
Films in black and white?
Well the flashbacks are
The good bits are
Yeah
Yeah yeah
In colour
All the worst parts
Are in colour
Typical
Yeah I actually do know guys like that as well
We're like
I watch and I get so pumped up
You're like really
Just when you see the brother
From my name is Earl
Screaming the N word
You know why I brought up
I remember like saying like
Go after Fight Club
You know like
you watch Fight Club
and afterwards
you just want to get in a fight
and they're like,
yeah, I'm the same way
after American history
X, just want to fucking
that's where my
fucking...
You just wait by the curve
hoping that opportunity
will present itself.
Yeah, yeah.
You ever shoot in firemen?
Who are you?
Yeah, okay.
Toil you're a slave.
A very powerful...
You know what kind of
reminded me of?
Because the plot
isn't really that important.
Okay.
Like I wouldn't
like the guy who wrote
is a guy called
John Ridley or Ripley
and I wouldn't be like
after like I want to see who else he wrote
because that's not really the point of it
it's just he just adapted a book
like it's funny like
he's actually working on a Tron
TV show at the moment
was just as much racial
social commentary
yeah it would be funny
he was like yeah I'm taking
Tron to a whole new direction
you know the way you put it on
in the plot of Tron
it's like a normal world
and then you put on
you go into the video game
and you can like ride
like light cycles
stuff like that
in his verse
like you put on
you go into a video game
and you get like
a this blue whip
blue whip
but you're whipping
the same person
you whip him
to turn the pixels
but yeah
it's kind of
reminded me of
if you go to like
let's say
a black history museum
or something
that
and they have these
things that
show you how bad racism is
and they have to like sometimes
really put in your face
like in this film as well
they show you the scars
they really they really linger on the scars
and like even that bit where he's being
like lynched and he's like
they really make you uncomfortable
by showing you
the harsh realities of this and they're
constantly showing shots of his back
constantly and just how like
it becomes like an Eli Roth film
like it's just gruesome
yeah just gruesome but it's never like
yeah it's fucking sick
yeah it's like it's just like it's just there
It's just
It's just
constantly there
And it's like
Awful
And I was picturing
Like
You have to make it like that
For like the dumb fat kid
The Magahat
Like put down his game by
And be like
Oh
Oh it makes me tink
Oh
Maybe I've been wrong
Yeah
Yeah
And then he's like
No
Haven't
No
And he puts on a second
Magah hat
On top of his Maga hat
I'm doubling down
me
That guy who saves him
represents Hillary
Brad Pitt is Hillary
I always do it
Well yeah I would recommend the film
I'm not surprised at one best picture
It's a very powerful film
I'm looking forward to Steve McQueen's
Next
Yeah his next thing is
It's a TV mini-series
With I think John Baiega
Oh yeah
From Star Wars
And it is
It's interesting now
It's about immigrant communities
In Britain
I think it's like six episodes
In each episode
It's like a different decade
Oh okay
Yeah
So like from them
First coming
Like first generation
Yeah
Like maybe 50 60
Stuff like that
Yeah
And then
Then
Present day
Yeah
Yeah
And then how things change
And probably like
You know
It probably make Tatcher
Look like a bad person
Oh
Oh
You're fucking
Propaganda
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
So that would be interesting
To watch
I'm looking forward to
I'm surprised
Widows didn't really
Do that well
Widows
Yeah
It kind of
Can't
And wanted
Nobody really
Talked
It was very good
No one
Talked about
I didn't get any kind of nomination or award.
I don't know.
Maybe the academy or the industry just isn't ready for empowered women.
Because it is a very, like, empowered women movie.
But you know.
It's not like, you know, shoving it down your soul.
It's just like a really cool movie.
Well, I saw the trailer and I was expecting it to be way more like, you know what?
Bitch is doing it our way.
Yeah.
Can I like Hustlers?
That movie Hustlers?
I'm seeing Hustlers.
I was thinking more like, like, um, like that Birds of Prey.
Not even Birds of Prey, actually.
like, I was expecting more of like a dumb
kind of like Charlie's Angels
Yeah, really dumb kind of ham-fisted over the top
Not very subtle
But it's not like that at all, it's really good
And Colin Farrell's great as well
It's like, I'm realistic kind of guy who's like
Yeah, look, I don't even want to be a mayor
But fucking mayor, I suppose
That scene actually where like he just comes from like
Something, like some woman kind of
Like verbally assaulted him on camera
then he gets in the car
and drives the whole way
and you just
it's like a
you don't actually
cut to inside the car
it's just exterior shots
the whole time
that was great
I really enjoyed it
yeah that seems so good
because he gets in the car
on like the projects
yeah
and he drives to like
the nice part
and the whole time
he's ranting
but the scene only takes
like three minutes
and they go from like
the worst of the worst
where people like
some people like
dying on the streets
to like really fancy
gay community houses
and stuff like that
it's a real powerful thing
Yeah, I was very surprised
that he didn't get nominated.
It was great.
What year did that come out?
That's like 2018, isn't it?
2018.
What won that year?
Shape of water?
Was it?
Ugh.
Jesus.
Well, the Academy or so I would talk.
Imagine they're like, yeah, what's more relevant?
You know?
Women of colour or fish creatures.
Yeah, yeah.
Let's ponder this for a bit.
Well, a movie about, not just about women of color.
It's about, you know, it's a female empowerment,
but it's also about, like, inequality.
It's about,
up political systems
it's like
you know
wealth disparity
stuff like that
and they're like
yeah
this has nothing
do America
you know what
it's like America
these days
a woman fucking a fish
yeah
soul
yeah
yeah
so that's just
an hour
there we go
we hit an hour
12 years of slave
and obviously
anybody who is offended
you are a right
to be offended
yeah
well done
yeah look we
you're a good person
we use satire
as a way
to like process
ideas
ourselves. We had to process the idea
in this still. Maybe slavery's
bad. I had a whole, I had
a board set up.
He's like a pro and conglades.
Yeah, yeah. But you know what's so interesting? I've made this point
before. I try to do it a bit
but people don't really want to hear about slavery
when they're having a few points in the inter.
Again, depends where you're drinking.
Yeah, yeah. Go on.
But like, if slavery was still around today,
there would legitimately be a large percentage of people
that would be like
oh yeah yeah yeah yeah sure
I'd love to make slavery wrong
but you're living in cloud cuckoo land
if you believe that we can just get rid of slavery
oh you and your fancy ideas
but look if you got rid of slavery people lose jobs
okay and it would really affect the economy
so I care about the economy
more than your wacky ideas about
you know like people not being whipped to debt
and you know maybe we shouldn't
That's what happened in Flint, Michigan.
They got rid of slavery and the economy just tanked overnight.
And you know what's even worse?
It's like, did have people, prominent politicians going, like, there's no way we can get rid of slavery, and then they'd be on S&L.
And they'd be like, yeah, I might not agree with your opinions, but I'm still going to do the neney with you on TikTok.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, so slavery's wrong.
Slavery is bad, guys.
12 years slave is a great film.
Tell your friend.
We're not white supremacists
We're actually the opposite
We hate ourselves
That's true
That's the end of the podcast guys
12 years of slave
I'd recommend it
You should all watch it
Steve McQueen
Big fans
Love to have you on the show
Yes
Either Steve McQueen's
Either the Steve McQueen's
The dead one or the live one
Yeah we're not funny
Yeah
Bye
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