Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 70 : Da 5 Joe Duffyz

Episode Date: July 6, 2020

"I said Mookie."

We are live We're on Here we go High energy and ready to rock Yes Rock out with our cocks out But only with permission Yes

Only with consent Shall we rock out With those cocks out Yeah yeah Well I have written permission From it Who was it Dalia was going like

Jeez you can't take her dick Out at all these days I think his last special That was a bit he had It was like You can't take your dick out at all The no pain special Yeah

14 years old Nah 15 years old Hell not 16 Hello Okay Yeah

So Yeah We're high energy now We're high energy now Yeah yeah We weren't feeling it there But no we're feeling it Yeah a little peek behind the curtain

A little peek behind the curtain So we tried to record an episode And it just kind of died Yeah we got about 15 minutes And we're like oh this isn't working Yeah some reason you just don't feel it No just scrap it It's like a relationship

Yeah yeah we just The resentment is set in I feel like if we kept So that We tried doing an episode episode and it wasn't working. And we stopped it straight away, which is what you should do. Yeah.

Instead of like keeping it until like we're 40 minutes in and we can't get out of it, like like a marriage. It's like we're 40 years in. We're 40 years in. We can't give up now. We got to keep doing until the kids are games. We had a recording together. We realized it wasn't working.

We aborted that recording. And we took it to podcast parenthood. Got it deleted. Yeah. Yeah. Got deleted. There was sure those people protesting outside. It is kind of.

Actually, yeah, that last podcast was like an abortion because it was worthless. We both knew it was never going to bring us to joy. Yeah, and they're like, no, it's a podcast. Every podcast matters. Nope. Not all. Not all of them.

And then we play it and they're like, oh. I guess you had a point. I guess you should abort babies if this metaphor is followed true. Okay. Yeah, that's what it is. If you don't like your podcast, go kill a baby. I think it's what we're saying there. I think that's a good way to follow our last episode.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. well the last episode if you haven't listened to it go listen to it I'd say go listen to it it is our best episode we've done so far probably I'd say

well it's definitely the one that we've gotten most of a reaction from like a lot of people like a lot of well I guess well it's the one that people listen to

yeah unlike every other one every single one yeah we have like minus listens on Spotify they just take some away yeah because normally in Spotify you can see the rankings

and it's like you know like a number I think it's like number of plays and a number of listens because one of them is like you started and one of them is like

you listen to it all right and one of them it's like you listen to like five minutes or more Oh okay right right right Yeah so we had a lot of boat for Davy episode Yeah yeah we did an episode

about Davy Riley and then just the problems in the Irish comedy scene in general And you know what Since we've recorded that episode Yes Even more stuff has happened With the Irish comedy scene

Yeah yeah There's a lot of stuff Still coming out Well I don't want this to become like an Irish comedy rape show. Yeah, no, I don't want, like, like we're the whistleblowers trying to lift the lid on all of it.

It was just something that was just very big and we felt like we had to address it, but we're not gonna, we're not like gonna go start taking them down like we're fucking Tom Arnold hunting for the Trump tapes, do you know what I mean? Was he hunting for... Yeah, apparently Tom Arnold had this show on Vice

when it was literally like, Tom Arnold hunts for the Trump tapes. I guess the tapes of him saying more crazy, sexist and racist stuff. Oh, I thought you meant to, Russian ones. No, I'm pretty sure it was like him saying the N word and making rape jokes or something like that.

But they never came out. This was like two years ago like not long after Trump got elected and Tom Arnold of the stupids. Have you ever seen the stupids, Brian? Wasn't he also in Rosanne? He was. He was actually in Rosanne. Yeah. Barang! Yeah. He married

Rosanne. What was the stupids? I'm going to guess now, the stupids was an offensive comedy where the joke was they're retarded. Was that it? kind of but not really it was a kid's movie like a family movie about a family that were idiots but they weren't retarded they were like ridiculously stupid and like they all wore like luminous like bright blue or orange clothes and like they were just very stupid and it was like it was like a dumb kids movie it's got like zero percent on rotten tomatoes did they fart a lot they probably did i don't remember yeah yeah yeah it was kind of like that yeah yeah yeah but anyway uh So, Tom Arnold's, like, I've done film. I've conquered the world of comedy. Like Orson Wells, I've done, that was my citizen cane.

So we're next. Where to next? This was like his F is for fake. Yeah, pretty much hunt for the Trump tips. Nothing ever came of it, obviously. Of course not. Yeah, who's like, Tom Arnold's not the one that's going to take it all down? Man, Vice, Vice is so funny, look back at now.

What it used to be to what it is, no. But also, even at its height, it was like, let's get a rapper. and have them talk to people from ISIS. Yeah, about smoking weed or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It was like an algorithm, but for freaks. Yeah. They were like, okay, let's just put three things together.

Don't make sense. Okay, Action Bronson, cooking, and beheading videos. Bon Appetit. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, this is Action Bronson. We're going to fucking chop this guy's head off and souffle the motherfucker. Yeah.

And it was a completely unsustainable voice because if you know if vice kept their place that we're wanting but they were like no we're going to beat CNN yeah yeah they really like lost the run of themselves and then like they took on this like aggressively like super woke just like but then it's just so funny because

Gavin McGinnis one of the founders turns out to be a fucking alt-right and starts the proud boys and shit like that yeah and then Shane Smith he goes the complete opposite direction where he's like super left like aggressively leftist you know what I mean actually yeah, it's funny. I haven't even taught the name

Shane Smith in such a long time. Yeah, you forget that he was like, but he's, you know, he's at the top of the pyramid, yeah, just kind of. But Vice, like, haven't they, like, they're really, I'm talking stockwise, not quality. Yeah, they've definitely gone down, well, quality wise too, I'd say. Yeah, quality wise. Like, they were

like, kind of, what would you say is their peak, like, 2015, maybe, and it's kind when they're up and then, like, all that I'm using quotation marks here, like, cool bros. Yeah, the bros all loved vice. Would be like, oh my God, man have you watched a new voice show yeah yeah exactly yeah now haven't said that they did make some good documentary oh they did they did some good stuff there but that's the thing they did and they got

too big for their britches yeah that's what it is they they took a load of money off rupert murdock of all people is that right yeah yeah they rupert murdock was like i want to invest like 30 million into this right he probably he was like young people like this fucking black people smoking weed shit as he would say as he would say yeah this fat guy would have a beard, doesn't even wear a suit and tie. What the fuck's wrong with the world? Got tattoos on his shin. Who tattoos their shin for God's sick? But he was like young people seem like this. So for him it's like throwing a bit money to a truck or a box. He's like I'll give Shane Smith 20 million. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And we'll see what happens. Well, they actually

did launch like a TV channel, but I don't think it lasted it. Or is it still going. I think it is but it's like number. Yeah, it's literally like two, five, nine on sky. Cooking shows, shows about weed and then like their political stuff which is just like yeah it's just like some douche bag going around and like a fucking like a baseball cap and tattoos just been like it's crazy here in the Middle East

let's check it out and he does like a fucking kick flip down some steps yeah and people are like you know what it is it's like if adult swim yeah try to be the New York Times right yeah yeah exactly if adult swim was like we're going to start getting to newspapers

you're like man you're new media Don't go into this old media shit. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, it's a dying, you know, archetype, really. Like, you know, those, like, big institutions are failing. But they kind of do have that too big to fail mentality where, because things like, places like NBC or ABC, whatever. They've been there for so long, and there's so many people depended on it.

Like, it would be interesting if one of those major TV networks goes down. I'm trying to think, why is there a future planned? I don't. So, let's see. You're Logan Roy. who's looking oh right from succession you own let's say you own CNN what's your grand plan for this

like eventually the old people are going to die off yeah well you got to basically move make the jump from TV to the internet or basically merge the two where like you know you have smart TVs you can access YouTube Netflix all that stuff so like have I mean I don't think setting up your own digital platform

to do it in Netflix for news yeah that would not work that's a bad idea but basically try and I mean there's YouTube right everybody goes on YouTube so yeah I guess yeah just making the jump from you know old school to the digital age or whatever I have done that where Sky is just on YouTube yeah it's live on YouTube yeah and people watch it like you know yeah I think free but I think the old days of you know like a journalist for one of those networks yeah owning a fucking speedboat and he you know like you know the old days the the golden days of journalism journalism where it's like you're in the bar you're drinking all day yeah yeah and then you go in you do the six o'clock news do a little sniff just to blow away the cobwebs actually i'm stealing a story i'm stealing a story here okay david cross of all people was on a podcast recently from uh david cross from mr show mr show and arrest development yes and he was saying when he lived in l.a there was a guy uh who would drink in the same pub that he would drink in right right yeah yeah yeah yeah oh wow yeah

like the Simpsons would say like yeah this guy was on he was old when David Cross knew him but he was like a for that local networked he was a bit of a legend yeah LA local yeah right right he would be their local Walter Cronkite okay yeah sure so he said you'd always see this you go

into the bar and he'd be there and he'd just be drinking away for like two hours okay just on his own okay and then he'd get up leave and then you see him on TV half an hour later you know you're just like watching him and he'll put in the newspapers You know, like getting his cards ready

And like, good evening, this is the 6 o'clock news How now, brown cow Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. President Diana has been assassinated. Saddam's up to his old tricks. Yes. Twin towers have been bombed once. It will never happen again.

I'll put money on it. Yeah, and then he just go back to the bar. That's pretty cool. And that was a good old day's journalism. And now it's like, you got to be tweeting all the time. Yeah, yeah, God, must be so exhausting. imagine being in your 50s and having to fucking tweet all the time

about bullshit it's just it's draining you know what I mean like fuck that imagine being a respected journalist okay and you went to the Gulf War you did Afghanistan

you were there when the Berlin Wall came down you did all the big stories okay then the guy your boss is like and your boss who was like a 22 year old who got the job

because of his dad yeah it's like listen you have to get on TikTok yeah yeah he's like I did this great story about

how the the Chinese are sterilizing the Uighur population They're like We don't care Everybody cares with that shit

I start dancing Yeah Dude pretend to be Drake You're such a fucking hoe I love it Yeah Yeah You like that

Yeah So that's what they got to do I'm not on TikTok I think If you're over 30 and you're on TikTok It's just a bit weird Pedophile

Pedify, yeah. You automatically get added to the sex offenders register. Here's the thing with TikTok. Yeah. You can't be ironic on TikTok. What do you mean? I see some people on TikTok and they're kind of like,

oh yeah, I'm on TikTok, but like I'm doing it like. I know that it's stupid or whatever. You have to be, you have to fully embrace it. Yeah. And have any kind of like, if you're just on it and you're being dumb, it's like, oh, look, he's, I don't know, he's just being dumb. He's just having fun or whatever. Well, that's those are the ones that get like the millions of views or subscribers.

Yeah, yeah. People are just smiling and dancing, you know, yeah. But, I mean, if you're on it, just commit to it. It's like someone on a bouncy castle. It's like, yeah, I'm on a bouncy castle, but I'm doing it ironically. So I'm frowning the whole time, making you tink. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've got a gun to my head while I bounce up and down.

Kids don't like it. I'm dressed as a clown, but I'm sad. Yeah. Here's the news. How do we get on to this? Vice. Vice, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're doing some good stuff in Vice.

Yeah. I can't think of it. any. Yeah, just good. I remember he saw this one documentary called, I'm pretty sure it was a vice documentary and I was set in like East London like kind of in you know like a rough area or whatever

and there's this kind of local legend called Spitman. I believe that's what his name was and he used to, he was like in his 30s or 40s and he was like very mentally ill right and he used to like pay the local kids the local like hoodies or whatever to piss on him, spit on him, beat the shit

out of him. All this stuff. He should be called piss man yeah he should have been called piss man i think spitman just has a more i don't know spitman's easier to sell yeah yeah yeah exactly yeah spitman but yeah like like and then you know there's interviews like all their faces are blurred and stuff and so like uh yeah man i i used to piece on him do you get me like you know it's okay this is a white guy he just sounded like this yeah like plan b you know plan b oh do i spitman bro you used to get me the piece on him in ting it was mental cause do you get you know and all that stuff but then he's like roughly reflecting on it because he's a bit older now and he's like yeah looking back i was like a teenager

and this old fellow is getting me to piss on him it's pretty weird pretty weird but you know he was paying me and he worked for r t but uh yeah so they did they do so like weird little interesting ones like that's that's voice at their level yeah where it started off as like hey let's just go out on the street yeah we're kind of wacky and edgy and alternative but then they went to the congo and they were like hey do you like getting pissed on I mean, they went a bit They got Yeah, they just got very

Like up themselves Up their own asses Yeah, well the parody The obvious parodies What a lot of people did It's like is a guy in a scarf Asking a warlord If they're like weed

Right Yeah And what's the best bong hit They've ever ripped Yeah right, okay Yeah And do you subscribe to Thrasher magazine Oh, what's trashy?

That's a skateboarding magazine Oh, I'm not cool enough I'm showing my age there It's like back in the 90s Yeah They did a lot of A lot of it was like, I was good of skateboarding, then the crack kicked in. Yeah, they actually have that, there's like a documentary series, and all of them are just about skaters, like, bam, Margeras on it.

Yeah. And he's like, yeah, it's like, my life was show us show me and now it's row and bleh. He was just like a fat alcoholic now, just like really sad. Oh, yeah. And he just has like PTSD and concussions from all the shit that happened on jackass. But like literally all of them is like either like. went to jail heroin addicts you know ended up sucking cock for money

like you know to feed their crack addiction they just like I thought you meant the jackass guys no well kind of them too to be honest imagine we man sucking you off perfect height yeah yeah yeah you know they had to cancel well they had to postpone jackass four

because the coronavirus because one of them has hemorrhoids because they're all old as fuck now it's gonna be very sad it's gonna be very sad yeah yeah I don't want to see what kind of stunts can BAM do now I wonder if it's like It's all just an elaborate way To like pull an intervention on Bam Margera

Is the BAM Dude You gotta quit drinking BAM Dude Imagine now Bambstone to be like You hear Matt I'm going to inject myself with insulin Because I'm diabetic

Whoa I'm gonna For this next prank I'm going to avoid awkward questions About Uncle Vito It turned out to be announced NARly BOO do do do

K-K-Y play like a guitar solo. But at the end, they have a special guest appearance. Here's your uncle. Bam, I didn't touch her, I swear to God. Bam, please help me. I'm not going to last in prison. I think he's dead now, actually, isn't he? I actually don't know much about the case.

Uncle Vito. He was just, like, basically this big, fat, I'm pretty sure he was, like, retarded or something. He just was not right. And Bam, and all of his crew used to fuck with him. He's like, hey, Uncle Vito, you fat fuck. And bam, leave me alone. You're very sick.

I need help. And, yeah. But that's what I'm did. He just, like, tortured his parents and stuff. Yeah. But now he's just, like, this sad alcoholic who's, like, crying all the time. It's going to be pretty sad when, like... You see him on Dr. Phil?

Yeah, I have, yeah. It's going to be sad when, let's say, both his parents are dead. Yeah. Okay, and then he goes to the graveyard and turns their graves into, like, a skate park. I've got to shred it, dude. Yeah, yeah. And I'm just picturing it's in the snow, and he's there drinking, like, a bottle of whiskey on a skateboard was broken

and he's like yeah rock on he's got to be in his 40s now I would say yeah like they're all like pushing 50 everyone else though was like okay

yeah stevo cleaned up Knoxville well he kind of went you know he got had a bit of a Hollywood career for a while yeah well Knoxville I imagine now is still like just going to meetings he's in a suit

yeah he's probably got a production company where he's like yeah we're gonna move that in the fourth quarter and uh let's sell that yeah let's sell those stocks to Netflix and every now and again looks out like

I know like a little ramp or something it's like back in the day back in the day yeah but anyway so that was

well how do we get we talk about vice I don't know why what else we got let's move it along here have you watched anything cool I've been watching anything cool I've been watching

a lot of love hate yeah so have I because we're going to do some love eight episodes yeah yeah which are going to be very fun we're going to do season by season but apart from that i've also been watching um two movies which movies i watch recount okay about the gore bush election yeah and then i watched uh the the five bloods spike lethal yeah yeah yeah i'm just gonna take out my jacket we'll end it this out no people in the uh people will hear it's like foley

they'll hear like the shirt anyway no like the foley sound effects they'll hear like the noise So you watch the five blood, Spike Lee's film. What do you think? I didn't like it. You didn't like it. Yeah, I liked it at first. Kind of like Black Clansman. I like it at first and after a while, it's like, this is very long.

Yeah, yeah, I know what you mean. And then it's like, there is good bits in it. The whole, it's like 20 minutes of boring, a good bit, 20 minutes of boring. And then some footage of Martin Luther King, then the end. Okay, right. So it's like set, it's what these guys who were in Nam together and then they go back to find treasure or something. Yeah, yeah. So these guys

are in Vietnam, four black guys. Yeah. And then they go back because they buried some treasure. Right, right. And I, see, I, I'm tall, it's going to be like a more, what's the name of that classic film, Sergio. Sergio Leone. Sergio Leone.

It's like they find, it's what they based that Simpsons episode on with the Radioactive Man comic. Okay. It's like a classic story where these guys find gold. Right. And then like the, you know, it's the start. They're all in it together, but then they're agreed. overpowers them. But then it's kind of like

you know I was the one who found the map so I think I should have a bit more what you did motherfucker what you did? And then like it's slowly slowly well actually I

my penis doesn't work so I should get more gold yeah okay something like that but it doesn't that doesn't really happen okay no spoilers

but it doesn't have that like slow like the tension builds and bills and it all unravels yeah I'm taking the gold okay yeah which I kind of

because the friendship at the start is so good I was hoping that we'd have a bit more like you know why do you think

you should have some more you know I got medical bills I need to pay or like something like that but yeah

it I didn't like it too much okay well see it's mostly I feel like a film about Spike Lee

hates Vietnamese people and I just wanted to show some black guys shooting them I think that was really

I think that was like wish fulfillment he's like I think what happened Spike Lee went over to Vietnam on holiday and they tried to sell them something and they wouldn't leave him alone

and he was like I'll show you Netflix We're with you Spike Let's do it. Let's stick it to the Vietnamese Black Lives Matter And also With a little asterisk Well I haven't seen the film

But I tell you it kind of vaguely reminds me Have you ever heard of a film called Dead Presidents? No No Dead Presidents is a movie by the huge brothers who did like menace society and so they've done like you know

movies about like growing up in the hood but dead presidents is about these four guys who come back from Vietnam okay and they're like back living in the ghetto okay but their lives are really shitty because like you know life in the ghetto is rough and life for a ex

military veteran is bad. We fought for a right we ain't got no rights back home exactly yeah yeah Chris Tucker is in it he plays a heroin an addict because he got PTSD and stuff. I love it. And it's really good. It's very underrated, not very known, but then eventually they decide

they're going to like start robbing banks or whatever because their lives are shit and blah, blah, blah. Well, that sounds way better. Yeah, it's a good movie. It's kind of like a you know, what would you say, hidden gem. Not a lot of people know about it. But when I heard about the plot of the Five Bloods movie, I immediately thought of dead presidents. Yeah, but it's a lot

of them just in fields. Or it's a jungle, I mean. They're just wandering around. And a lot of like some of the bits in it like there's one bit this isn't spoiler now it's one bit where they have an argument when the guys walks away

and he's like you know what fuck you guys I'm leaving and he puts on his hat and it's like real like I'm leaving and as he walks off he starts crying

and it's proper like ooh hoo hoo hoo hoo ooh hoo yeah he's like oh no who hoo hoo

and then he starts singing as I walk through the valley of dead and take a look my life and realize there's nothing like yeah he starts singing and it's like a full-on like it's like over a minute of him walking away and them all look at you to it's like a step rudder scene wow that's really weird and it's supposed to be played off like it's bits like that where it's like oh that's supposed to be sad i think right yeah there's other bits where it's like full-on spielberg

okay like if you told me spilberg directed this movie i'd kind of believe it right because there's so much like oh man i never leaving you again and the hug each other and it plays like real like very like melodramatic almost the friendship forever we're all in this together yeah they start dancing yeah

yeah that's weird did it do the kind of that like very classic Spike Lee trope or somebody's like standing in place given like an impassioned monologue while the camera tracks in you know that kind of like it do the right thing

have you seen do the right you see yeah yeah there's actually a scene in this where they're going through the jungle and they find like an Italian restaurant and they walk in It's John Titoro and Danny Ayello Yeah Hey you know these motherfuckies

Come in here You know they disrespect the place Pop I can't do with it no more I love the idea of like Two plucky Italians are like We're gonna start an Italian A pizzeria

In the middle of Vietnam In the middle of a minefield Okay And then they're like It's the best fucking slice In Vietnam Alright come down Have a slice in a

coke and fucking relax and then the black guys walk in like there's no black guys in the wall this is bullshit it's just come up who's your favorite actor

yeah was it mooky mooky yeah Mookie comes in Spike Lee oh oh that was a slip there

yeah Mookie played by Spike Lee see if you blur blur those two words together you're getting a lot of trouble now yeah

that was an accident that's he probably meant that's a Freudian slip there. Oh god no. I'm sorry Spike Lee aka Mookie. But the thing is there is good stuff in it so I can't be like I see 19. It's like either have a shit film or a good film

but they have these little bits. Yeah there are bits in it that are very good but overall the film is kind of a drag so like the Vietnamese people are very nine in it for the most part there's a lot of them going like there's one bit okay. Did they mao? No there's what because it's in the present day so there's not they're not going like D.D. Mao. Okay. It's one bit we're just like The black guys are just hanging out.

I think they're on a boat or something like that just sailing. And a little boat comes by and the guy's holding a chicken. Right. The Vietnamese man, he's like, buy my chicken. Okay. Buy my chicken. And they're like, no, man. I don't want it this chicken.

Buy my chicken. Like, no, man, I don't want it. Buy my chicken. And the guy's like, yo, I got PTSD. Leave me a little one. And he's like, buy my chicken. And he's like, fuck you. And he swings at him.

And then they have to hold him back. He's like, fuck you. And the Vietnamese guy is like, you kill my father. Oh shit. Yeah, yeah. And then it's like, yo, fuck you, I'll kill you, I'll kill you. And it's like, they're proper, like, and he's like, I'll kill you. And it's like, it's like over a minute of them just, a Vietnamese guy and a black man.

And they're both screaming those two words I don't want to say. Okay, I get you. Yeah, yeah. N word. And the G word. Yeah, yeah. It's a lot of G word in this. And we ain't talking about gangster either.

We're talking about, uh, kind of similar to my little slip up earlier. There's a similar, uh, onomatopoeia there. Well, if Spike Lee played a beat the Vizman. all right but yeah and it's also a lot of jokes about European people

because they meet they meet this European people that like they're like a couple that are just like backpack there's three of them and they work for

it's a real organization I think it's called lamb or something like that and they go around defusing minefields oh okay yeah which is important because later on

there's a scene where someone drops on it and it's really like oh what do I'm step he steps on a mine yeah right which you know what to do to get out of it

it's a little bit of it's for anyone listening who wants some advice. If you find yourself listening to this podcast while tracking through a mine field. So perfectly okay, I want someone in Vietnam listening to this. They're like, I love the Davey

episode. Let's see what else they have got to say. They're walking along and they're click. Oh shit. And they're stepping on the minefield. What you do is you get your friends, okay. If you have no friends, you're fucked. Just step off it. You loser.

You dork. If you have your friends, okay, tie a rope around your friend to I don't like where this is going Around the stomach The stomach, okay, all right Okay Hope you don't have any tar or feathers Beside you

And then you step like Kind of far away So you want a long rope Okay And you tell them like At the count of tree We're all gonna pull the rope And you're gonna jump

Right okay Yeah yeah So they do it And they cause of the force Of them pulling the rope And because of him jumping Yeah He doesn't get his legs blown off

Okay Yeah yeah Okay He just like gets lifted into the air That would that would be scary. See, that's a very good scene. Yeah, that sounds good.

I like that. This is after that. Buy my chicken. What else is in it? It's hard to spoil it because it really isn't much to spoil. Yeah, yeah, I get you. Apart from the very end, just because who lives and who dies. Yeah.

Guess who the villain in it is a French guy with a Make America Greyha. Oh, really? Yeah. What does that mean? Why, yeah, why a French man? Yeah. Also, oh yeah, I was going to say, so the Europeans they meet, they're all, like, oh, what about the Geneva Convention?

They're just like really nying the whole time and they're like, oh, we should give the goal to charity. Oh my God, right. But at the end, this is why it's perfect timing. At the end, they donate some of the money to Black Lives Matter. Ah, very good. Yeah, well, that's the thing.

It came out at a kind of perfect time, didn't it? Perfect time. Like, and it is getting like overwhelming critical praise. You know, not to say that it doesn't deserve it because again, I haven't seen the film, but just, I've heard a few people that have watched it

that kind of give a similar report to you is like it's good but it's not amazing and now it's kind of being hailed as like but of course because of the Black Lives Matter movement what's happening in America you know you couldn't be seen to be kind of critical of

a film that's obviously so pro Black Lives Matter right? Would that be a fair assessment? Yeah and also so anti-Vietnamese especially to stay in age it's like you got to support that. Being anti-Vietnamese yeah okay well like do. I did before you told me anyway.

And I'm glad Spike Lee told me the truth. Finally. Yeah, like it's, I feel like it's one of those films, like the artists. Remember that one best picture? Right, okay. Where people, like, 10 years from now, be like, remember we all like that film? Yeah. I feel like it will be a little bit like when they kind of can't, when we end racism.

Finally. Yeah. Yeah. And when we say we, we do mean myself and Brian with this podcast. We fix things. Yeah. Right, Jim will fix it. In every conceivable way.

We fixed it. We fixed the Irish comedy scene. Yeah, yeah. And we've also been given the keys to Broadmoor insane asylum. Yeah, yeah. I've got a few jobs to do. Yeah, we're having a cups of tea

with Peter Sutcliffe. Yeah. Was Peter Sutcliff? He's a Yorkshire Ripper. Yeah, yeah. Or there's something strangler. Now, I think he's the Yorkshire Ripper. Let me look up, just want to double check that

because I hate to get anything wrong on the show. Well, I was just apparently Savilled. Yeah, he like, Broadmoor for anyone that doesn't know is an institution for the criminally insane so basically criminals that have committed horrific murders but they pleaded the

insanity plea and they got it they get sent to Broadmoor and for whatever reason he was like on the you know administration board but he would hang out there sometimes and like yeah apparently him and Peter Sutcliffe were pretty good friends and like Jimmy Savile really enjoyed his company

man that's a play yeah isn't it that's it then just hanging out now a two-act play it's a two-hander and it's them hanging out oh my god who do you higg would play Saville who'd be good as Saville. Oh this is a good one now I feel like I can cast Saville better than Sutcliffe

Actually you know what I'm going to say Stephen Merchant But you know he's just been cast in a film About the Grindr Killer Are you familiar with the Grindr Killer? No is this actually Grindr's in Yeah Grindr the app yeah the like The dating app so there was this guy

The Grindr Killer he was called even though I'm not sure if he used Grindr because most of his victims were male escorts Grindr is more a hookup thing but anyway I think just for like the sake of media and sensationalism it was like in 2014 he was nicknamed the Grindriller

He definitely had mediating Like he basically would force feed them GHB and like overdose them and then like have sex with their corpses and stuff like that You know something yeah yeah But apparently Stephen Merchant is going to play him in a movie Do you know much about it has been filmed?

No, it's just my mate was telling me He like saw an article And I was like, oh, that's interesting I would, I think that would work Because it'd be, it'd be interesting Because I heard, now again, I haven't seen Georgia Rabbit But I hear he's very good in it

And he plays like a creepy weird old guy It's a very small role I think it actually is like two scenes And that's it Okay I think all together But memorable would you say Yes

Yeah Because he plays, again It's that kind of like Is he okay Is he won the good Nazis Or one the bad Nazis? I hate it. Don't you hate that? When you're hanging out with the Nazis, you can't tell you,

are you one of the good ones or the bad ones? Are you problematic? He is head of the S-S-S-S-S. Yeah, S-E-S-E, not S-A-S. That's like... Super Army soldiers. Bravo 2-0. That was like, that's a whole college industry,

that whole, like, British soldiers write books about. It's like Chris Ryan and Andy McNabb. Right. He wrote Bravo 2.0. Right, okay. Yeah, so all this kind of, these kind of, I used to read him as a kid. Of course you did.

Yeah, all these kind of like, and then I shot the fucking Arab. That's say, you're quoting the book. You're not just talking about your days and Carlo as a schoolboy. Sorry, yeah. The book is all kind of like, yeah, me and my mate topped in a van.

We were in a rack. Yeah, there was a bunch of bloody, yeah, towel, garment wearing gentlemen. We saw something moving. Dog, child, we didn't care. Didn't matter. fucking bang bang you're dead pal do you what mean

and we went back to base had a can of carling and we're all right a bit of fucking stellar at war after shooting a bloody moosey eh yeah a lot of those British soldiers are quite racist

I wouldn't recommend those films I was in ITV there a couple of weeks ago that was my pitch verbatim it's funny because they were like so we want some relatable sitcom Well, Peter Sutcliffe and Jimmy Saville

Yeah, let's get back that for a second Let's get back to second So who would you cast a Saville then? I feel like I like Merchant But I don't think he can do Saville He could maybe be Peter Sutcliffe

I think Sutcliffe more Do you know Sutcliffe actually had special pants That he made Really? Yeah, so he would cut out a hole in his underwear Oh Because he won't you're Let's be honest here

you know when you're hanging around the 820 looking for prostitutes to murder you know when you're murdering someone yeah yeah of course let's say when they're dead it's the bansillads being lads yeah it's I'm hanging out with Billy Bush imagine if Trump was hanging out with Billy Bush he's like you know you're murdering a bitch

you know when that bitch just gotta go you gotta ice that motherfucker so you don't want to waste time pulling your pants down yeah exactly your underwear down so he had a little access yeah just so it's ready to go Yeah, just his little pleasure portal. And he also built in little knee pads

into his jeans. Okay, he liked to do it doggy style? No, because he'd be kneeling down cutting the woman's head off. Oh, I see. Right, right. So he doesn't want to fucking hurt his knees. Yeah, and you know what?

Grass stains are impossible to get out, so I know where he's coming from there, you know? Are you sick of grass stains? Bye, Peter Sutcliffe's knee pads. Great for if you have sciatica, lower back pain, hear voices in your head. It's great for. for everything

Yeah So yeah This is a good question now I feel like Sutcliffe you can get anyone Yeah

Who would be good for Saville Socliff is big here anyway So you just put on a fake Andy Circus Oh

Oh You cannot You cannot do better That's good No isn't that My precious Yeah Yeah

Oh wow What then My precious Yeah he's Yeah he's Crawling around But they don't watch me

On the top of the pops I need to host The top of the pops And the cymills so fixing. No, you fool. They're all against you.

You're going to touch every one of them, don't you? Yeah. Yeah. There you go. Oh my God. The advancements in CGI. They do...

It's a sample. You just crawl around the ceiling. That would be amazing. Yeah, no, the Amby Circus. There you go. That's a good. I literally couldn't top down. No, that's as good as you get right there.

Oh, why isn't that thing? Well, that will be a... We should start that. Circus for Saville. That'll be the hashtag. Because they've done all the other are kind of British serial killers. Yeah. Serial killers.

Who is Dominic West played Fred. Fred West. Yeah. Dominic. Dominic. I think it is Dominic West. McNulty. From the Wire.

Let's just say McNulty. Jimmy McNulty from the wire. McNulty was great in that film. Yeah. It was like a two-parter kind of made for TV thing. Yeah, yeah. He was great. He did a great accent.

And he, what I love about is he didn't do like a, he didn't, anyway, try to make him human. Right. Or make him like Oh, I'm troubled But there was no scene of him like Yeah, I raped my daughter But it made me feel sad But I'm not a bad guy

Yeah No like him looking off in a distance And they're playing like I can fix you You know what you want But not what you need When you try your best But you don't succeed

As he's burying her under the patio and when you slit your daughter's throat and she starts to bleed yeah there's none of that it was a nice little simple like he's a monster

he's a monster yeah do the Jimmy Saville it has to be ITV yeah yeah BBC can't do it Channel 4 could do it I could see Channel 4 maybe doing something kind of edgy

it would be weird if BBC did it because they could literally film in the fucking rooms that's true actually yeah yeah television centre wow you've heard that old joke because you know by television center it's like circular

yeah the BBC yeah it's built in a round shape right okay so if you're like let's say if you're chasing after a kid oh you can just stop and the kid will come to you oh jeez I never heard that joke oh yeah yeah it's like it's no that's why I'm not going to say I did it it's like an old enough yeah yeah yeah and I've heard other joke similar

of like you know if you get lost in a BBC just walk in a circle circle and someone will find you yeah Alan Patridge and his oh ha I keep cries give me a second series you shit in his autobiography

that was written by Armando Enochie and Steve Coogan there's a whole section of him getting lost in the BBC Oh really? Yeah yeah That's great

That's a great book If I had to make one recommendation The two books that they wrote Yeah Eye Partridge We need to talk about Alan And Nomad Which is a travel book

Right Right About him travelling They're both amazing Yeah And just the amount of Like it's basically A joke per sentence

yeah it's just constant like just like uh joke joke joke it's the closest i can think of like the simpsons in terms of like it's just non-stop jokes right you can't even follow it yeah yeah yeah but it actually has a coherent like it's a plot like yeah things are happening that's cool yeah i recommend when did that one come out that first one i partridge 2011 right okay and the other one's like 2015 okay uh go on youtube you can have the whole thing is written by the audio book the audio book written by uh sorry uh narrated by Steve Coogan. Oh, wow. Amazing.

Amazing. Even the choice of word, it's always perfect. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. I'd recommend that. What are we on now? We're at 39 minutes. Okay, perfect.

I'm just thinking about, so back to the five blood. So we've, we've finished, you can't get better with Jimmy Saville. Okay, we got that. That's in the bag. So back to the five bloods. There isn't really that much to say, I would say a lot of people give Spike Lee shit because he puts in a lot of political stuff for Jewish films, which is honestly the only parts I like. Right, right. I like Spike Lee. I like his work. Like, he's done, like, do the right

thing is fucking great. Yeah. And, you know, I enjoyed Black Clans Man. Then, like, even when he steps away from those kinds of, like, um, race-related political films, like, he did Inside Man, which is, like, just a straight kind of, like, bank-hized movie. I have not seen it. It's decent. Like, it's not amazing, but, like, he's a good filmmaker. And, but, and he's very outspoken. Like, he's called out Tarantino a lot for his use of the N-word, things like that. Which, you know, know, you probably, yeah, I'd say, you know, kind of without fail, every single Tarantino film has an abundance of N-words and that will, that probably would piss you off. He's gotten better at, though.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. There was no N-words in Once Upon Time in Hollywood. Yeah, that's why I hated it. I boycotted it. You know, the way they were all like, oh, she isn't talk enough. Yeah, yeah. Margot Robbie doesn't talk enough. I'm like, yeah, you know what should have been saying?

But anyway, yeah, yeah. But I do like Spike Lee, but yeah, he kind of, he gets a lot of shit, but he brings it on himself, you know? You know, what's funny? There's a lot of people, I would argue, there's actually almost as many people who know Spike Lee not for his films. Just for his kind of, well, like, the fact that he tweeted a false address of, he thought it was George Zimmerman after he shot Trayvon Martin, but it was just some random guy. Yeah, well, that's funny. Yeah. Not Spike Lee again.

Why does this keep happening? There's a Fox News subsection of people who only know him as like that crazy black guy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that troublemaker. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's always being mean, okay, to, you know, the clan. Okay, but then there's other people who only know him for basketball. Well, he did that movie, he got game.

Well, no, but he also kind of like Jack Nicholson with the Lakers. He always attends the Lakers games. No, Knicks. Oh, the Knicks, is it? He's always at the Knicks. Okay, right, right. where if he doesn't show up, people are like, is he dead? Oh, wow, okay.

And he, but not, he doesn't just show up. He's court side, and he's constantly given abuse to other players. Really? There's a whole documentary about it where I think was Reggie Miller, like, proper, like, they nearly got into a proper altercation. Wow. Where Reggie Miller was like, I'm going to choke you. Jesus.

Yeah, yeah, because he just sees a little guy. Yeah, Spike Lee's very small. He's a little guy just screaming. What kind of nerdy guy with glasses? Yeah, yeah. Just imagine trying to play basketball on his little guy there who directed, who directed fucking, uh, an anti-italian film. I just scream at

you when you're trying to like concentrate Yeah, it can get a nine He's also a load of commercials Is that right? Yeah, but he doesn't talk Oh, he just stands there? No, so there's a series of commercials You find them online

I think it's like Samuel Jackson They're insurance commercials Okay It's Samuel Jackson, Spike Lee And I think Someone Maybe Larry Bird Not Larry Bird

Maybe Charles Barkley Okay It's someone like that Okay And three of them getting up to adventures when most of the commercial Spike doesn't talk He doesn't talk

He's just there He's just there A part of the gang Right He's kind of like Kind of like in tree stooges He's like Which one was the mute

I don't think of the mute one Oh wait no I'm thinking of the Marx brothers Well they're all dead Yeah they're all dead Yeah good White people are dead Good More of that

Yeah Boo the white people So that's all I can say About five bloods Without spoiling it I wish You could just give someone a series of notes

being like here's a good scenes yeah just skip to this watch them and you're grand yeah yeah I got you how long is it like two and a half hours two and a half hours yeah that is a bit long and one their views was like

oh two and a half hours not a second wasted was that like New York Times I think variety or something yeah yeah yeah not a second waste yeah and it's like really

because some of it literally is them silent just walking around yeah you had meanders but not even like direct in the way we're like oh I'm so investing these characters yeah I know what you mean

yeah yeah yeah yeah I get you it's actually most expensive film ever is that right they shot it in Vietnam I assume that or like somewhere else Cambodia yeah yeah yeah and they do flashback scenes

okay to the war don't deage them oh really which I actually like okay interesting so it's just them as old fellas yeah yeah which actually is kind of funny what are you gonna do when you get home

I'm gonna write my steady gal we're gonna go to the prom finally I wish you leaned into it more and kind of like played up the fact that look at you young book and it's like who are the actors in it one of the guys from Wire

okay the older black guy from Wire oh who played Lester yeah yeah yeah okay and they're all guys that you would know you'd recognize a lot of them are like guys who like they've just been in like

CBS dramas right okay and like oh he was on law and order for three seasons they're not like big stars yeah I get you Lester would be the biggest name and

Lester's the best part of it, I think. Right, okay, he's good actor, yeah. He's really good. There's another guy with PTSD who gets to do all the kind of show-off acting. Right, the kind of crazy stuff. Yeah, all like that. Oh, I got PTSD. Yeah, yeah.

That's how he says it. I got PTSD. Yeah, no. But I think Lester was great in it. Okay. There is, yeah, I wish you could watch some scenes just to laugh at them. I probably will check it out, I think, yeah, just because. Chadwick Bostman is in it?

Yeah, he's good. Yeah. He plays the guy who didn't make it out would be in a... Oh, okay, he's the one that got left behind. Yeah, yeah. That's part of the reason as well

they want to find him. His body? Yeah, yeah. Take him back home to his dead mama. And then they just find him like in this big like temple like fucking Marlon Brando.

The horror. The horror. Yeah. Yeah. So five bloods. What was the other one you watched? Recount. Recount.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Recount. So you kind of went from this very like racially charged political movie to like the whitest of white political movies you could get. I watched a film about black people and was like, I don't like this.

I need something to remedy this. I need white people counting. A spoonful of sugar helping the medicine go down. White people looking at white paper in a room with white walls. I think they're literally is one black person in the entire film.

Maybe two. It's Spike Lee and he doesn't talk either at this one. He's just watching the next game Like That was motherfuckus So recount if you don't know It's a HBO film

It came out in 2008 And it's about the 2000 election The 2000 election Al Gore George Bush Yeah yeah And basically I didn't realize How dumb this was So I heard it was like a bit of discrepancy

Yeah in Florida was it Yeah yeah yeah So the joke is all Republicans stole the election Right yes I heard that Yeah turns out James They did Oh according to this HBO film

Dropping knowledge Here we go Again what I'm going to say What I'm going to say But this film is Made by HBO I'm not an expert I'm sure it probably is

Maybe a bit of a bias somehow The bloody liberal Leftards Spreading their poison news Into your knocking And you're falling for it Aren't you make I have fallen for a hook line and sinker

You've drank the Kool-Aid As it were The proverbial Kool-Aid Hey Yeah you're bloody daft bow Anyway have a go yeah look i haven't a time to check everything and see if everything's right

i'm just going to see from this film from what this film told me okay is that so they had the election okay and uh yeah yeah yeah they had the election and the news called it before they finished counting

they were like yeah well first of all they were like we don't know if it's too close to call it might be gore and then like an hour later they were like oh it's bush it's gonna win so gore the silly sausage just calls up Bush and goes like Well congratulations And just concedes the election What

Yeah yeah Wait concedes So does that mean like he drops out Like or basically he was like hey look You won the networks are calling it Okay Yeah yeah And then he's like

Okay and then Bush is like cool And then Al Gore's on the way to the The like the announcement That Bush is gonna win Right And he's gonna do you know they do like the shaking hands Yeah yeah good game

okay so they're on the way there and then like Kevin Spacey he's in the film Kevin Spacey plays one of the people counting yeah he loves counting

oh yeah always a recount remember when they said he got away a 14 year old boy he was like I want to recount he was 18 he wants to like chop off his leg

and count the rings to see how old he is so basically it's Kevin Spacey and Dennis Leary of all people oh okay they play gore's kind of like counting guys. Sure, okay. Yeah. So,

you know, Kevin Spacey's watching, go like, oh, it was a close election, and then Leary's like, you know, we haven't finished counting yet. Yeah, yeah. And Gore might win. Right. They're like, oh shit. So we got they got to get a fat guy to run after. It is

like a comedy scene, like this fat guy has to chase after Gore and be like, Mr. Gore, Mr. Gore. Who's the fat guy? Just some random Josh Gad looking freak. Yeah. Yeah. So he has to chase. And he follows over and everything. really? Oh, fatty fall down.

So then they catch gore. It's a classic. Yeah, yeah. It's one of the oldest. Yeah, you know, it'll never not be funny. Yeah, yeah. So then they have to catch gore and then bring them back. And basically what happens is they want to count the rest of the votes.

Okay. Republicans are like, no. Right. And they're like, okay, we're going to go to the court. Then they're like, okay, and count the votes. And then Republicans are like, actually, no, we found a bylaw that says he can. Okay. And it's back and forth the entire film.

And basically, Republicans, um, wait out the clock. Okay. So it's like after a certain time, it's like, look. You can't, like, it's over. Right, right, right. So we don't know yet if, uh, go or one or no. Right.

Even till this day. Yeah, they haven't really, because it's such an effort to like, and it's all like this. You have to get people's votes. Okay. It's not just like going to a room and count them up like. Yeah, yeah. It's like, you know, for the whole country. Yeah, it's like a privacy thing as well.

Right, right. Okay, okay. So it's an interesting enough film for what it is. Yeah. boring. There's just people counting pieces of paper. It's not even that.

It's people like, we want to count and they're like, you can't count. What, are you crazy? This ain't communist China, buddy. Yeah. There's a few interesting things in it.

One was, there's a bit in it where they shoot themselves on the foot, the Gore team. Okay. Because they decide not to throw out a load of votes from the troops

because they're done badly. Right. Because the troops, they vote, but they forgot to put down their names. They didn't put down names or dates or anything. They just tick the box and stuck it in. Right, right.

Because they're too busy fucking protecting their freedom. Yeah, yeah. They're too busy shooting Afghani children. Yeah, yeah. No, they wouldn't have been 2000. They weren't in Afghanistan. Where were they Iraq? I'm sure there was still from the Gulf War.

There were still people in Iraq. They were in Roscommon. Well, the more people they shoot there, the better. You heard it here? Yeah, yeah. That's where they found Saddam. He was hiding in a fucking sewer pit and Ross Kahn. Amon.

Just in the centre of it. Please get to me out there for you. I don't know why Saddam is French. But anyway, come on. So, um, what was going to say? Um, help you jogging memory here. Oh, the troops. The troops.

Right, right, yeah, yeah. So then, so they decide, like, we're not going to include these votes. Okay. Because there's no names. They're like spoiled. Yeah, just spoiled. Yeah. Then Republicans find this and they have a field day with this.

Oh, there's like, oh, you're not letting the troops vote? Basically, yeah, yeah. Oh, Mr. gore. So you're saying we should have a recount, but you don't think that troop should vote? The people protecting our freedom? Yeah. You don't think they should vote? You want criminals and black people to vote,

but not the troops? Our prisoners are allowed to vote, aren't they? Or are they not? I'm not sure. Although there is a scene in this film, this is true, okay, I looked up. Okay. Where basically they had a list of people who can't vote, and it's like convicted rapists and criminals, stuff like that. Sure, yeah. And then there were like, the Republicans were like,

hey, listen, why don't we just put a few more names down? What do you mean, like onto the bad, onto the naughty list? Yeah, okay, so basically let's say, let's say there's a rapist called Shibuki Jefferson. Okay, interesting name. Yeah, Shibuki J. Jefferson. Right. He's a black guy. Oh, is it?

Okay, thank you for clarifying. Yeah, this is the point. So, okay, that's a different name. Tigham, Jefferson Steele. Jefferson Steele. Jefferson Steele, okay. Jefferson Steele, Jackson. okay

they're like okay this guy's a rapist okay so it's just throw on anyone called you know

Martin Steele uh Jefferson Michaels right anyone's kind of similar to that name they just just threw on the list

as well so obviously that's illegal right there's 20,000 how do they get away with that like

I was just in the heat in the moment we won't do it next time oh just the once yeah okay but like yeah

it was like 20,000 people were turned away literally there was a black pastor who went in the vote and they were like

yeah you're not getting oh look at this there it's mr jefferson jackson steel he's like my name's shibuki so they turned them away and because the troops thing as well I think that distracts them so they were like they're not letting black people vote they're not letting troops vote

right so it was like a top Trump yeah yeah yeah there's a bin as well where they're like they didn't put in the names right then the Republicans like you know when a troop is getting shot at by an enemy enemy bullet that bullet doesn't have a name on it either oh that's a bit of an absurd logic there so then they they count the votes as well right okay and uh then at the end they have a scene where they they count some more yeah yeah doesn't

sound like a very riveting fellow it shouldn't be but it was riveting enough you're invested i was invest i was on my phone let's be honest okay yeah you were kind of yeah looking up the real story as you were watching it where i started off then then you start watching hardcore pornography oh while watching recount yeah yeah it really got you going Kevin Spacey and Dennis Leary counting pieces of paper who I was watching

Dennis Leary count something it's like I wonder what I want to watch a stepmother bang Dennis Leary look alike bang stepmother mom you fucking bitch you're a hoo-a

Dennis Neary's actually all right in it it's a good actor yeah there's a series of good films and people in it I mean good actors. Tom Wilkerson's in it. Yeah. He plays like the Republican guy. There's a good

bit at the end where they're like, sir, you were a Democrat until you were 40 years old. Why did you become Republican? He's like, well, my wife died of cancer. An old friend of mine said he should join his campaign. And that really helped me through the

sadness. And they're like, oh, an old friend. Who was he? You're looking at him. And he points out picture of George Bush Sr. Oh, Daddy Bush. Yeah. Herbert Walker Bastard.

Yeah. So that's like, oh, he's not so bad after all, even though he just, you know, he stopped black people from voting. Both wife died of cancer, so, you know. So, yeah. Swings in roundabouts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, we all, you know, you know, some people drink herbal tea,

do yoga, and others suppress black voters. Yeah. That's just, whatever you've got to do to get through the day. So I would recommend recount, I would not recommend all of the Five Bloods. I would recommend the bit where he stepped on the Land Marine. Parts of it. Yeah. Yeah.

And the bit where he tries to sell him a chicken. Okay. And also a bit where he cries. Because that was funny. Okay. Maybe I'm just broken inside. Yeah, maybe. Maybe it's old man that's PTSD and I'm like, this is hilarious. I'm going to stick out some porn for this too. I really got me going. You know what? That's the biggest

criticism I have with the Five Bloods. I watch the whole thing, no porn. No sexy bits. watching it didn't get horny at all okay well that's that shouldn't be vietnam we're watching four old black guys walking around vietnam suffering PTSD i mean if that won't get you hard i don't know what will maybe yeah maybe you are made of stone am i problematic you're not yeah you're made of stone when you should be made of bone or something i don't know yeah what are we what are we on now uh 56 minutes okay let's end on a good one one last thing this is a good one It has all the things we like

Okay So I'm driving here Yeah I turn on the radio This is last week Right I'm listening to the radio It's Joe Duffy

Of course I'm like this is always juicy Yeah Yeah Yeah I don't watch porn With Joe Duffy But that's because

I'm so riveted And driving Yeah Well I can watch porn While driving Yeah That's pretty trilling No I've never done that

Have you done that No Oh You know the bit in fight club Where he takes His hands off the wheel Just let go Yeah

you're bashing your cock yeah yeah it's mean I'm against capitalism just while you're wagging that'd be great in fight club if Tyler Durden gives him a phone to watch porn on but for the two guys in the back it's just Ed Norton watching porn or like fucking Brad Pitt sucks off Edward Norton

but it's just Edward Norton bent over sucking his own dick while driving Project Mayhem So anyway. Anyway, so you're driving here. Listen to Joe Duffy. Yeah. Basically, what happened is the only way they're tearing down statues.

Yes, yeah, yeah. And Tifa and all that. Right, right, right. So there's a guy called Sean Russell. Right. Now, he was an Irish revolutionary. Okay. I think he was in the Civil War and all that, you know?

Good, good top bloke. Yeah, yeah, good lad. But there's one little niggle in the whole thing is he did hang out a lot in Nazi Germany. Ah, really? Yeah. Quite a lot. Now, his defenders would say, oh, he was just hanging out.

A little Nazi niggle there, eh? Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's just... Oh, that's your imagination. No, you said it was a niggle, something that's problematic. Anyway, so he's a Nazis. He's hanging out with Nazis.

Some people say he's a Nazi. Some people say he isn't. Right. I don't know either way. I'm not smart enough. Okay. So how much, like, the people that say he was, like, did he hang out there a lot?

A lot. I think any... And, like, who was he hanging out with like was he hanging out with like I think gobbles oh really okay no it wasn't like he was just in a bakery yeah exactly

oh nazis no this is like he's proper like you know him and Eva Braun oh wow yeah uh mangola yeah he's like

mangola was like let's say Sean Russell's like there's not unsexier than twins and Mengah's like yes but for different reasons I'm also very interested okay yeah

so he's problematic why was he so he was a fan of the Nazis essentially well he hung out a lot And there's like, I mean, yeah, I mean, you don't hang out with Nazis unless you kind of like what they do. I think he made multiple trips. Right, okay.

And it was a kind of thing of like he, you know, have dinner with them and stuff. Right. And people were like, oh, he was just getting some guns off him for, you know, to kill English people. I guess, you know, there probably was, he probably was a sympathizer in that he was fighting British imperialism. And maybe he thought they were fighting Zionist imperialism or bull not, the Zionist thing didn't happen until after the Holocaust. I think was a response. Yeah, exactly. But I think wasn't that a big aspect of a Jewish propaganda in Nazi Germany was that

they have a sort of control over, because like the Rothschild family, not to get too ridiculous. No, let's go for it. But you know what I mean? Like the Rothschild family did, they were like owners of like the World Bank, like Lord Mayor Rothschild. I mean, that's like going back fucking 1890 or something, right? I mean, look, I could have that timeline completely wrong.

But it wasn't one of the components of the anti-Semitic. a Nazi journey that Jewish people control the world of finance. Yeah, that existed back then and has persisted

today that conspiracy, anti-Semitic racist conspiracy. Although I think they made the Jewish people work in the banks. Really? It might be in a joke.

Okay. Someone told me that they're like, we don't want to handle money. That's for nerds. You Jews can do it. Like, we don't like money. Like, you better start learning. You better learn to like it.

Yeah, okay. So anyway, like, so these Antifa people didn't like Sean Russell the statue Right So they were like

We're going to deface it So they put like a rainbow They got a few spray paint can Like the pride flag thing Yeah They put a pride flag on his head Yeah Now you'd look it down

And be like Ah wash it off Yeah It's not Apparently he got defaced Other times as well over the years Well But it's like small enough

Guys are fucking Nazi Like Allegedly Well Whatever Yeah Yeah I also heard he was

Um Sending dick pics To women If you want to spot in the inter. Yeah, you gotta come to be to Nazi Germany, have some dinner or they have abroad. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. So anyway, like, um, he defaced it. Now you just be like,

ah, look, wash it off. This guy called up Joe Duffy, and he was like, this a disgrace, Joe. These gays are fucking destroying statues, okay? Okay, right. I used that actual turn. Maybe not, maybe not that. Well, you could tell he was like, homophobic right, right, right. Yeah, he was angry, okay.

Okay. Yeah, and then Joe got way too angry, and he was like, how do you know? How do you know they did it? And he was like, Joe, it's a rainbow flag, Joe. He's like, you don't know that's LGBT. Yeah. And he's like... He'll be a rainbow enthusiast.

Yeah. And the guy's like, ah, come on, Joe. Could be a leprechaun. Ah, come on, Joe. It's a sign. It's a sign they use. And he's like, maybe someone used it to destroy the gay rights movement. It's called black ops.

Holy shit, really? Yeah. Yeah. I like it. Instead of like normal person being like, who cares? Joe's like, no, tell you, it's the Jews. gay Jews They're playing mind tricks with you

And Sean Russell knew all about this Yeah, yeah He saw it common Yeah Oh man Joe got so angry Because the guy was like Come on Joe You can't be destroying a statue

And Joe was like breeding heavy I think because Joe's real history nerd Yeah So I think Joe He probably knew all about Sean Russell Yeah So then Joe was like He was a Nazi

And then the guy's like I know don't say that And then Joe's like Oh Went full super saying Like What are inches Joe Duffy now it's got to be like in his 70s

60s definitely 60s he's real big into he's big history guy yeah he writes multiple books about he wrote a book called The Children of the Troubles which is all about

he just found out all the dead children and just find it's basically if you were like bored say you're taking a shit okay and you're like I wonder how many kids died in the troubles you just pick up a book

and you know go through name by name all right sounds good A stocking stuffer Yeah I personally I prefer a crossword

But you know Whatever Whatever gets the bowel movement's flowing It's up to you Yeah Yeah Your doctor suggests

More fibre in your diet And read about The dead children Of the troubles That would clear up your IBS I think he won for the troubles And one for 1916 It's like a series

Of dead kids books Sure Yeah But yeah He got so angry during that So funny It went on for like 40 minutes Like most people

Are calling up And be like Come on Joe he wasn't that seeing Joe's like he was he was breathing so heavy that I actually taught as a joke and I'd call up and be like is Joe okay are you alright Joe you're breathing heavy Joe get some water in you

yeah yeah yeah I never heard he was an assy we're over an hour now up good we wrap it up yeah so next episode is going to be the love hate episode this one is a bit of a free form yeah a deliberate free form yeah everyone having everyone having a good time

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