Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 76 : The Sopranos Pilot with Jiminy Glick

Episode Date: August 3, 2020

We talk about the first episode of the Sopranos and a special guest shows up.

Like, think about this, okay. Italians have this amazing foods. Beautiful cuisine. And we're just making rashers. Like, Irish people, the more burnt, the better. The more burnt and fried, the better. Bacon and cabbage and spuds. Yeah.

You know what I mean? Just gruel. Really? It's gruel. It's not cooking. It's not. It's just gruel. We just took a bidet, okay, and, like, barely even peeled it.

Just throw it in a pot and you hope you die before it's finished. And you're kind of disappointed There's no blight in it I wish this potato had blight Yeah it's so true Like even like seafood I mean we're an island You know what I mean

We could have We never like did anything You know really I mean you know We just like cook up a fish And that's it We don't like you know Juz it up or do anything fancy

Now in fairness There wasn't Irish Mafia as well It was Irish organised crime Okay But they were never never as good as the mafia. Nowhere near. The Italian mafia, they wrote

the book. Yeah. They had the Umerta. They knew how to do it right. Yes, yes. Absolutely. I mean, and then it bled into politics. I mean, the CIA, the idea of like honeypot and sexual blackmail, I think, some have argued originated

from like organized crime in the mafia. That's with the CIA basically is like, hey, that's a good idea. We should do that. Do you know what I mean? I mean, you could argue as well, the Jewish mafia. were, you know, pretty fucking powerful. But, uh, I mean, when it comes...

Yeah, but they didn't have the gabagoole. Yeah, they didn't have, oh, the gabagoo. Yeah. Plus, they never went, oh, they just went, ugh. Yeah. Yeah, they were not as fun. They're not as fun. Yeah, they're just not as fun.

And one thing about the Sopranos that it never really gets credit for. It is one of the funniest shows ever written. There are some fucking hilarious bits. It's just funny. Every episode is there's so many, funny one-liners and zingers. It's great. So just to set the ground rules here, we're going to talk about the pilot of the pranos.

Called pilot, sometimes called the Sopranos. Right. Okay. We are going to talk about the pilot, but we're going to spoil the entire series. Yeah, we're going to talk. Like, if you haven't seen Sopranos, don't listen to this. Jump off a window, okay? Yeah. If you haven't seen the Sopranos

and you're listening to this, what the fuck are you doing with your life? turn this shit off and go watch the greatest television show that's ever been made. You know, it's so weird. I know all these people in their early 20s who are only watching sopranos now because of COVID.

Right. So now you've got all these hot girls that are like, oh! Yeah, all these hot girls are like, oh my God. I want to work in the bad of Bing! Yeah, yeah.

I love Christopher. Yeah. Man, my, okay, my... Yeah, I'll say this. My roommate and her friends, so we were re-watching the Zabranos there not too long ago. And I was very surprised by how sexy they find

Tony Soprano, James Gandalfini. Like, they're like, oh yeah, he's so fucking hot. I was like, really? But like, it's just like that masculinity, that power, that strength. The belly. Yeah, it's just the bald spot. I don't know if they just, they love it. They love it. Especially because he's like, oh, he's going to therapy as well. Yeah, yeah. It's like, I can change him.

He's trying to change, but he won't change. Oh, he's dirty dog. Oh, he just broke a man's left. Oh, he murders people and cheats on his wife Oh, why can't I have that? Oh, boy cares about his horse. By oh my! Yeah, yeah. Yeah, so all these girls, I know,

you're right about Tony Soprano, James Gandoffini. They love him. I saw a girl recently, she took a nude, okay? Yeah. And she put a little, a little, like, cut out picture of, like, James Gannofini's head over tits. Oh, my God. I don't think anything could make me come harder than that.

Just a pair of tits with Gandalfini's face on the nils. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that would be it. I'd be ruined for life. Oh. Oh! What a great tribute. I just come right on Gandalfini's face.

You always laughing at it. Remember when Paul Walker died? Yeah. And they released a song. It's been long journey. I'll tell you all about it when I see you again. Oh, we drive the car into. the wall. It's how we go. Everybody got to fall. We tripping stone. This shit get wild. Fast and

furious. It's out right now. What? Yeah, I want to do a Gandalfini song. Yeah, do a Gandalfini song for him. It's a little late. It is a bit late. Yeah, yeah. I think it's still work. I'll be off for that. Yeah, yeah. I got some songwriting experience. Just right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Hey. We'll work on that. There'll be a special release. But you know what? You just said there, like, people in their 20s are watching The Supranes. now how are in this sort of you know cancel culture everybody's really woke you can't say this can't say that i mean sopranos is probably one of the most offensive shows wall to wall the thing is like it's within the context i get that within the italian-american culture and it's a product of its time

but like how are people reacting to it if they haven't seen it for the first time you got to think about this james yeah people aren't on the internet that much okay where a lot of the people i know who are watching this, literally wouldn't know what cancel culture means. Oh, I see. You forget that, like, not everyone is on the internet. You're hanging out with a bunch of mongoose folk. No, normal people like, uh, not

normal people's in those two those two dirtbags. Yeah, those two fucking... Sluts, the pair of them. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, Connell with his chain and his big cock swinging around. Oh, you can write poetry and play GAA. Well, fuck you! Well, one the cock wasn't that

big. I saw it. No, no, it was big. You just didn't see it from the right angle. Believe me. I freeze frame. I zoomed in. I took it into post-production. I did a re-edit. Enhance. Enhance. Rotate 60 degrees. Color correction. You know, I brought it into After Effects. I made a talk.

It's like, I'm so big. I'm so big. Anyway, sorry. He got nominated for an Emmy actually recently. He's pretty good. They're both good, isn't it? She didn't get nominated for an Emmy. It's fine. It's a perfectly fine show. It's not amazing by any stretch.

Hey, Paul Meskell, come back to me and play a gay guy, you know what I'm saying? If you keep playing straight guys, you're going to take a bottle and smash over your head. Anyway, enough of that shit. Let's get back to Sopranos. So, yeah. So what I was saying is, like,

a lot of people I know, the young people, they're not, they don't care about fucking that shit. You're just like, I love Tony's big belly. Yeah. And I want to suck him off. Perfect. Yeah. While still watches.

Yeah. Yeah. That's not very, yeah. I was doing a silly face there But it's really just It's like Bell's palsy That's all you have to do If you want to look like Silvio Dante

Just your face I'll tell you what Let's just jump in the episode The pilot, here we go Boom So we start off with the team song Yes You know woke up this small

I love that intro Probably the best intro of all time It's just great And it's so simple From the very start You're like hello Yes That was going to be a different song

Every episode Bad decision Yeah David Chase Wanted it And HBO were like No way No way well they were they were right it was it's perfect it's a perfect intro imagine that like having a different song every episode

it's like well like the next episode is gangsters pariahs by culeo there's a walk to the valley at a shadow of death yeah yeah yeah well you definitely could put other music to it boom boom boom boom boom boom boom it's raining men money money money me, give me, give me a man after midnight. Would somebody help me take the darkness away? All right, we're getting silly, don't, come on, come on. So we have the opening, okay, and for the first three seasons, we had the Twin Towers. Yeah, what happened to them? I'm not a real history, both.

We'll never know. We'll never know. Imagine someone who only watches Sopranos does know any about history. It's like, oh, they must have fucked up there. Where are those buildings? I love those buildings. That's my favorite part of the whole show. Yeah, yeah.

See those buildings, I think, yes. This is the Sopranos. Ah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So they digitally edited those buildings. Osh. Those, whatever the fuck those buildings were.

Whatever they were, yeah. Inconsequential. Yeah. So, this is weird now. So I have a memory of the pilot that didn't actually correlate to what I was watching. Okay. You know, because memory you can play tricks with you. Sure, yeah.

Yeah. So the first scene is Tony in the waiting room. Of the therapist office. He's staring at a statue, okay? Of some tit hails. Yeah, it's a female statue. Yeah, yeah. But in my memory, it was a male statue.

I'm not joking here. I'm not joking here. It was a male statue and he was looking at the tiny penis. Really? Yeah. In my memory, it was a statue of David-like. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

And it was a tiny penis. Now, did that happen in any of the episode? Do I imagine that? I mean, I can't tell you for sure if it did or it didn't. it's not common to mind, you know, and I've watched it a good few times. I can't think of any. The only one that comes to mind

is like, do you ever watch the Goonies? There's like a statue at the start and they break the dick off and they're super glued little dick back on. Yeah. They're super glued upside down. Maybe you were thinking of that. Maybe I watched.

Did you mix up Goonies and Sopranos? Maybe I watched the Goonies. He thought Sloth was Tony Soprano. Yeah. Well, wow, he really does need therapy. Watch if I watch the Goonies Like wait this is the Sopranos Then I put on Gremlins

Now we're talking Fuck up this money But anyway I don't think there is any Little Dick statues in the Sopranos So I literally at one stage Was talking some of the Sopranos And I was like

Man I'm such a different show Like literally the first episode It starts with Tony looking at a penis That's why HBO was so great This is the Roarshack test You saw what you wanted to see What does that look like to you? brian

I see a pair tits and like that's a penis that's a little penis you just like look at somebody's dick is like yeah I want a teddy fuck those

what yeah anyway okay so Tony goes in talks to the therapist and he basically tells her Dr. Melfy

by the way yes Dr Melfie Bronco Lorraine Bracco Bronco I always call her Bronco

I'm thinking a white bronco white bronco he's thinking of O'C yeah you're really getting it all mixed up here, Brian. So Dr. Melfy anyway.

Yeah, Dr. Melfy. He was great in it. Yes, she's fantastic. Originally, they wanted her, no, is it she read for Carmelah. Exactly right. But they gave her Dr. Melfy. No, she gave herself Dr. Melfy. Oh, real.

They wanted to cast her as Carmella. Yeah, and she was like, I like this other role. Okay. I don't want to be the mob wife again, because she had been in Goodfellas. Yes, yes, yes. You know who else they tried to get in Sopranos? Ray Liotta. as Tony

as won the gang maybe not Tony but he will maybe someone in the gang yeah maybe like because this was like in the early stages

so maybe they were like we can have him in it as like a different boss plus you got to kind of think you know when it comes to like casting the studio is like okay you're doing a show

about gangsters what's this other thing that's happened before that was very successful good fellas so you know that's kind of how studio was work is like

how do we know we're going to get returning our investment well put in you'll use these elements from the previous thing that worked to make this work yeah they don't like studios and networks don't want to take a risk they don't want originality they want something that they can point to previous and go that worked which means this is going to work yeah pretty much yeah we're not going to go like uh hey let's get an unknown to play tony's yeah yeah although they wanted sill at one stage uh what's

Steve Van Zandt. Steve Van Zandt. From the Bruce Springsteen band. Yeah, from East Street band. They had him read for Tony at one stage, and he was like, I think everyone involves like this isn't right. Richie Appreel as well. Really?

Yeah. Yeah. He was in the running for it. That wouldn't have worked. Yeah. Man, look, I... It can't be anyone else about Gandalfini. You know, I can't.

I like Richie. He's great. He is great. But I don't think if he was in it, there'd be no women. I've been like, he's so sexy. Yeah, it's true. You wouldn't see Richie's face in the face. and a pair of tits.

You know what I mean? I get you, yeah, yeah, yeah. Anyway. Us named the actor? I can't remember, but I just know. Yeah, I just be, he wouldn't, he's not James Gannofini, okay?

Plus he was quite small as well whereas Ganoffini's like this big, strapping man. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Basically could have been an athlete. Could have been a varsity athlete. Yeah, yeah. He never had the makings of a varsity athlete.

Yeah, I didn't realize to say that in this episode. Do they, yeah? Yeah, we'll get to that in a minute, anyway. Okay, so we're in Melfie's office. Yeah. So Tony is having existential dread. Yes. There's a number of factors this. One, he's a man

getting older. He's getting older, yeah. And men don't like getting older, and they find a hard to deal with that. That's why you have people climbing mountains. That's why you have midlife crises. Sure. At that age, men are starting to panic because they know debt is coming.

Yeah. So that's worrying him. Okay. Also, the Mafia game the mafia game isn't what used to be you know back in the day back in the day Emerta meant something yes but now everybody's flipping

everybody turns snitch because they can't do the time because now because the heroine the time has been tripled yeah now you've got fucking uh Rico

now you've got fucking people wearing wires yeah all this fucking bullshit oh oh fungou yeah yeah yeah just making Tony's job harder a lot of stress a lot of pressure

back in the day if you were a a Don, okay? If you're in charge of a group of guys, okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. No pressure at all. You just sit there, you have the guys doing your stuff. Yeah.

Someone gets arrested. Yeah, do stand in my head. Because the way it's, um, the way it's set up, the infrastructure is so that the guy at the top, the Don, the mafia boss is very well insulated. Because there's like, there's him at the top. Then there's the capos, like the, you know, his captains. Soldiers. Then there's soldiers.

Then there's little fucking errand boys. You know what I mean? It's like any organization or. criminal organization you know the guy at the top very well insulated and this is all stuff that was originated in sicily yes and then brought over so the structure of how to do it right was there and then they bring it over to america but you know times are changing technology surveillance is getting better it's just getting harder it's just a much more difficult thing also if you think about it from the run of this show from season one the end of season six yeah a great

snapshot of America changing yes exchanging to the extreme yeah absolutely yeah absolutely you think of what politics was in that pilot yeah to what it was nearly when it ended when it ended we were in the Iraq war

9-11 happened we're in the Iraq war like things are changing you got gay guys walking around okay who interracial marriage yeah that probably was legal before yeah I'm just saying like like the culture is changing, okay?

Absolutely, yeah. And these mafia guys, okay? These are old school, people. Yeah, the old school are frightened by this. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They turn on TV and they see a black man

singing about big booty hoes. Okay. Okay, they don't like that. I don't remember that. What happened to Frank Sinatra? Okay. I just mean, they didn't happen to show. I imagine if you're an old school guy, okay?

Yeah. And you turn on TV and you see exhibit. Pimping rides. Yeah, and you're like, this isn't Frank Sinatra. Like, you're scared. Where's old blue eyes?

Yeah, you're scared, I mean, yeah. Okay. So, Tony's got a lot of pressure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, uh... So we flashed back to the day of the incident. Now, the incident was Tony collapsed. He collapses, passes out, loses consciousness.

So what happens is he's back home with his family. It's a flashback. Yeah. Back home, okay? He's got his ducks. There are... He's got a swimming pool in his backyard and ducks. A little family of ducks are swimming in it.

They're kind of living in his pool, right? Yeah. Now, we're introduced to the duck family. We're also introduced to the duck family. to the Soprano family So let's go through it A wonderful little juxtaposition So first of all Let's start to the

One of the best, okay Edie Falco Carmella Cromella Soprano Fan fucking Tastic She is so good The best mob wife ever

Oh man she's incredible in this Like she really is amazing Just her Her like even just the way She scrunches her face Sometimes Yeah it just Oh my God

And just like she has this like moral superiority but she deep down she knows she's as bad as Tony because she is living this lifestyle knowing fall well where it comes from and she kind of has all this deniability except for when the shit hits the fan

and Tony's like right we got to do this she knows exactly what to do to you know hide shit from the cops or whatever stash money stash guns you know what I yeah she like she acts like she doesn't know all that but she really does an AK 47 in the house exactly there's rolls of money

just in like tins of soup. Yeah. Like, yeah, she, but like, she's great in this and, like,

also like, from the very first thing you get to sense that, like, these people have known each other, Tony and Carmela, have known each other since they were kids. Yeah.

Love each other also fucking hate each other. Yeah, absolutely. There's definitely a lot of, a contention between them, you know? You immediately get the sense that he's like, had cheated on her. Well,

yeah, he's got, but she says that straight away. But, like, she's found out, she's found him cheating like six times. Yeah, that it's like, it's old news,

You get sense that they've broken up more times than you can count and all is back together. Yeah, exactly. So we got Carmela. Next, we got Meadow. Meadow. Yeah, she's great now. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.

Bar-da-bing. Now, would you like early meadow? Is it a question the police ask you? Early meadow. Well, keep in mind, the show came out when I was nine years old. So. That's a fun. The police, they're question you, and they're like, are you a pedophile?

no way officer okay just one more question you do a Colombo on it you think Meadow Seprado Jamie Lynn Singer

Jamie Ling now is that yeah what's her name Jamie Lynn Singer singer yeah something like that The girl played meadow She's hot now in 2020 She's really fucking hot

Yeah she was hot in season six Wasn't she Of course officer Yeah season one Yeah just like work all the way down Season one. Oh, she was our host, season one. Take him away, boys.

And I just pulled down my pants. I have a picture of meta sobriado on my dick. Yeah, yeah. Does that answer your question, officer? Yeah, yeah. No, yeah, I was always attracted to her, but I was all, I'm obviously a lot, not a lot, but younger than her. I don't know what age she is. I don't want to know.

But anyway, yeah, so. So, like, she's great and, like, you risk, you think about, like, other teen actresses, okay? Yeah. dog shit she's perfect I wish she was doing more shit she's actually

a new Tim and Eric show now really yeah yeah it's a weird choice her and Robert Eiler the guy

the kid who plays AJ they have a podcast together who cares yeah exactly yeah well great

another podcast yeah that says more sharks in the tank yeah yeah yeah mess with a big

big big dog shark you know what I'm saying anyway yeah no she's great in this love of AJ

at the start it's not he's not the best like acting wise but he definitely gets better like when you know by the time like AJ gets to like the last season like the character has developed so much

and the acting has vastly improved as a kid his acting wasn't great but he gets a lot fucking better as he gets older I think AJ works better being played by someone who isn't that great of an actor yeah that's what I mean like he's a dud he is a dud I remember when I first started watching this like

The first time I watched Sopranos, I was maybe like 14. And I identified so much with the character of E.J. Yeah, say I'm like, just in a world of men and I'm the dud. Yeah. Just a complete fat dud. Yeah, pretty much. Yeah. Just worthless.

Like, we'll spoil it now. Later on, he tries to kill himself. He fucks that up, too. It would be funny when he was like, uh, actually, uh, I'm, gonna get the gab of go out of the fridge and, uh, we see how his pants are. Yeah, yeah. I'll be back in 20 minutes If you're still alive I'll leave him

Hey and now If you see the ducks Don't scare them away Okay Alright back to the pilot We meet the family Yeah yeah And you know Tony's like

Hey look at the ducks Yeah he loves the ducks Yeah and they're like Oh we don't care Yeah they're like whatever And the ducks are flapping And stuff like that Yeah

And he's like Oh I loved these ducks Yeah I loved these ducks Yeah He's what I love this now He's his fucking His fucking daughter

His friend's in the house As well Yeah He's walking around First episode Big fucking belly hanging out he's in his jocks

he doesn't care this is his house he doesn't give a fuck gets random bits of meat and just shoves them in his mouth doesn't even chew it just falls down his throat

just swallows meat yeah yeah now this is weird do you know tony uh jim kandolphini was 51 when he died yes he died in 2013

that's insane you'll realize how young he was he was like what 34 I would have believed much later yeah same he looks like shit

and he always only gets worse Yeah, well that's true Yeah, yeah But he's like the bald spot The beer belly Putts years on him like Yeah

Yeah Actually now Even in the face though He does look older But I think you know Back in the day People just looked older 20 years ago

I think you know Because there's so much more emphasis been put on youth And staying young For as long as possible Yeah That you know People like look

People in their 30s Look like they're in their 20s Now you know what I mean Yeah It's even the way people dress and stuff like he dresses quite old you know what i mean and um what's interesting is so they filmed this pilot and then there was like i think over 12 month wait i think it was a year until they actually the show went into development they so there was like a on the contract

there was like a time limit to when hb o could get back to him yeah HBO wait till the very last day wow they contact him to be like yeah we'll do it yeah okay which is interesting yeah that is in I'm not sure why. They never really went into why. I think it was like, I think they told it was a risk. Right, because the quote I heard was,

this is a show about fat guys in New Jersey. Yeah. Not a song about, not a show about, you know, four single women in New York. Right, okay. How are we going to sell this?

How are you going to sell it? Do people want to watch bad people do bad things? Yes, they do. Like maybe for Goodfellas. Yeah. Do they want to watch a series? I think there was a lot of debate about that.

Right. Okay, yeah. Okay. So anyway, Tony sees the ducks. He's happy. Yeah. Then you've got to go to work. Right.

Christopher picks him up. His nephew. Yes. Christopher now. Chris Maltesanti. One of the best. He's fantastic. Yeah.

Such a piece of shit. I mean, they're all piece of shit, but Christopher in particular is such a little piece of shit. It's amazing. Chris is funny because he's actually got ideas above his station. Yeah, he wants to like, he wants to be a screenwriter or a screenwriter. and make it in Hollywood and stuff like that. Someone pointed this out recently

is that the problem with the mafia after a while is deep down they all wanted to be Frank Sinatra. Sure. They all wanted to be fucking famous. Yeah, yeah. And they see Henry Hill. Right. And Henry Hill's selling his screenplay.

Yeah. And they're all like, fucking I've got better story than that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, more so the young guys, I think the older guys had more integrity. Oh, yeah. The older guys have more integrity. But the younger guys have grown up in the celebrity worshiping culture.

Sure, yeah. So they're like, I want to be on MTV. yeah they do capture that very well yeah i mean chris even says like he was talking to an agent and they said he can play himself yeah yeah that's true that's great so they're driving to work okay yeah uh chris just got a new car new lexas and then they see someone that uh maybe uh owes a bit money oh some money okay now this is a scene that i've always taught was a bit weird okay and this definitely this pilot definitely you can feel goodfellas energy

especially the scene here feels like a very good fellow scene we're chasing him in the car and they beat him in front of everyone yeah sure I always felt like you could tell it was the pilot because as the show goes on it gets his own voice and the energy and vibe but that felt like we're gonna do a good fellow's moment here

also just to get people's attention exactly you kind of have to with the pilot you have to capture people's attention and you can't really do a show about mobsters and not show a bit of violence or not showing them getting them heavy. I know that but I felt like

the way they did it is very audacious where it's in front of everyone and they're beating them in front of everyone. Yeah. But I don't know. They spot them. They go for it. I personally like that saying. I just love the fact that

Gandalfini starts laughing while he's driving. You know, like he genuinely enjoys it. Like it kind of shows that little sort of a mischievous aspect of his character where like he kind of enjoys the violence and stuff like that yeah definitely like this is this is like his morning coffee yeah yeah these these little moments are the only thing that bring him out of his slump you know what

mean because it's their everyday bullshit of life especially family life these are the little adrenaline bursts that keep them going almost you know what i think about like you're stressed the fuck out, okay? Yeah. You got a fucking wife at you, you got a dudson, you got a daughter who's starting to get sexy. Starting. I mean, you know...

Playing it safe there, Brian? You all this fucking stress, okay? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just how... You know, people have stress balls. Yeah. Multiply that by 100. How good would it feel just run over someone in your car?

Just beat the shit out of them. Break his fucking leg. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Also, you have to take into account that, you know, they're violent sociopaths as well, you know? Yeah, yeah. I think it's important thing to remember when you watch the proud is these guys

they're not taking three steps ahead here they're thinking like I want to fuck you fuck you I'm gonna take it off I'm gonna beat you up oh shit it's basically like giving into your instincts or your desires sort of straight away not kind of thinking or playing the long game you know what I mean well

and that is one thing that Tony struggles with is impulse control as you know you learn throughout the series yeah yeah especially with anger he like he you know he makes a lot of mistakes and wrong moves

because of anger oh yeah you know what I mean so it's definitely an impulse thing as well Jerry Hutch wouldn't do that no the muck

Jerry Hutch is very smart he'd meditate on it you know oh he would and he would um I always feel like Jerry Hutch

from I read about him would just be like just so calm just like yeah I think we need to deal with him yeah

there be no like he's fucking dead yeah yeah yeah yeah uh great guy again i keep saying this yes you do great chap you really uh you really hold him up in high regard well actually james ganglophini was so popular in soprano's actual mob bosses would like like fly him out to their wed daughters weddings and stuff so hopefully we're gonna go like go to like a hutch family reunion yeah yeah yeah and now the comedy

stylings of brian and james hey so you a bunch of knackers you big dirty bastards eh

these love guns and drugs these is a fucking dick hey they love it yeah they love it

I love it I love you did that and I'd go out here I'm like um so I'm bisexual I'm bisexual the guy is familiar

with the steam house or whatever the fuck it's called better better so where are we yeah

so they beat the shit out And then we see what their business is like Now their business is Outside a fucking meat shop Satrials, the Butchers Yeah, yeah Just sitting outside and discussing things

Yeah And it's all like, we gotta take care of this Drinking a little bit of espresso A very tiny little tiny cup With his big hands A little action man Yeah Yeah yeah

Yeah And we hear like Tony's problems Okay so one of the problems is Uncle Junior Uncle Junior A real pain in his ass It's Tony's father's brother.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Tony's father used to run the show back in the day. Yeah, yeah. And everyone says he's an angel. Who, oh, Tony's mother. Johnny Soprano. Tony's father. Yeah, yeah.

But everyone else, like, the whole time, people are very referential towards, reverential towards Tony's father. Yeah. There's a lot of like, God, he was one of the good ones. Same with like Christopher's father,

Dickie Maltesanti. Yeah, like the old school. They have high regard for the old school. Yeah. You know? Yeah. Because that's

their mythology. Yeah, that's who they grew up idolizing. They wanted to be these guys and eventually did become these guys.

But there's no way they could actually accept the fact like, oh yeah, those guys, they were actually assholes. Pieces of shit.

And they ended up dead. Yeah. Like really young because they're dumb. They're like, no, they were heroes. Yeah.

They saved Italians. Yeah, yeah. We were part of a culture, right? Oh, some guy tried to offer me a hot dog and say, give me the gabagoo.

Yeah, yeah. they worship almost worth these people okay so Uncle Junior okay he wants to you know

you know what I'm talking about he wants to skidy bop yeah he wants to kill someone yeah he wants to pop someone okay but he wants to do in Artie Bucco's restaurant

now what do you think about Artie Bucco Artie is he's a very fun character because he's so pathetic and he's such a fucking dud and it's weird

it's like he kind of deep down you can tell he wants to be in that lifestyle he just never had the balls to go through at it so instead of like joining the life and uh becoming like a mobster he opens up a restaurant that becomes a mob hangout yeah and uh well like you know his father owned a restaurant as well so arguably he did go into the family business but you can tell deep down he feels like like he made the wrong choice like he feels like a sucker because he played it's straight his whole life and he sees all these people around him getting like fancy houses and cars whereas

he's just a regular working stiff but like he doesn't have a hot wife yeah his wife's so hot Charmaine Bucco yeah yeah woo god damn look at all tedes I see it on the TV like

I'm watching it my parents I'm like oh oh oh oh Ryan stop that Like Arsenio? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So, I think Artie is just one of those people that will never be happy. Yeah. Because I feel like...

But it's like he's got this tragic, like, he's always trying to be upbeat and happy for his cussars and stuff. But he's so like, he's so downtrodden and beaten down. His wife doesn't respect him. Yeah. All the mobsters like take the piss out of him, you know, he's a joke. Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, but Artie's one of those people that, like, he would, he doesn't, I think deep down he doesn't want to. be a gangster even he just thinks that that's a way out that's a different thing yeah yeah let's be

honest he wouldn't be a good gangster well no absolutely not but that's what i mean it he doesn't have it in him yeah definitely i think has an attraction to it because obviously he stays in touch with all these guys he's a good friend of tony's like they're good friends they're friends since they're kids yeah yeah yeah exactly they grew up together but anyway yeah so uncle junior wants to have somebody clipped in ardi bucco's restaurant and tony's like you can't do that it'll fucking ruin his business blah blah blah so that's one bit of stress that's when he has

another bit of stress like this is the bend diagram of stress yeah he got Uncle Junior killing him that's like 5% yeah then he got his mother that's like 60% oh god yeah his mother holy shit now the perfect Italian mother oh my god man she is just

she's so good on this but holy fuck she's so horrible like she is like he describes that you're just like a black cloud of misery or whatever she really is she's just like so miserable and horrible yeah it's amazing

yeah I think to do a good kind of way of showing that like this is probably what Caramella will will end up like yeah maybe I mean it's just that kind of like you just stick with someone for

I always get some sense like she stuck with Tony's father and just turned her bitter and cruel and ruined her life she also a cunt yeah I think you know arguably she was always kind of like that. Like, you know, you do find out that she was always like a real, you know, very manipulative

and controlling and very clever in the way that she will just suggest something in conversation, which she knows will spark an idea in someone's head and get their wheedles turning about something. She's very manipulative and controlling and done so subtly. It's, yeah. And I think you can kind of take that she was always like that. You know what I mean? I think even Tony at the end of season one says,

you know, if you were born after those feminists, you would have been the gangster, not dad. Do you know what I mean? So it alludes to the fact that she was, you know, as much of a criminal mastermind

as Johnny Soprano ever was, but because she was a woman, she never could really make it. See, this is the problem with, like, family is that, like, you have to deal with these cunts. Yes. Okay, I have to be like,

well, you're stuck with them. She's my mother, so I guess I have to look after her. Yeah. Where, like, there's no person, you'd never have a friend

that would do down like, oh, I guess I gotta just stick with you now. To the end. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like, oh God, his mother literally is a twat, like. She's horrible, but she's perfectly cast. She won't take any help. He buys her, what, like a CD player?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, and she's like, I don't want it, yeah. Oh, you don't care about me. These blacks. That's a quote. That's not just me. me that was her she's an old racist

I'm super woke yeah now interesting interest for her is that she died yeah like midway through season two or three

two I think you're maybe three no I think it's two you're right too because I know that season three was going to have a story arc where she tries to testify

against Tony yeah was it for the playing tickets what do you mean he gave her stolen plane tickets and she gets arrested um

I think maybe the they helped they got the she flipped because of that yeah yeah yeah yeah I think that was gonna be thinking like he had to like try and convince her and to like give her stuff so she would should she shut up

but the fucking you know what Tony's Pran's mother is such a cunt even in real life she died just to piss off just to ruin the production of series like the scene where like her final

scene is a really badly CGI'd like they just basically superimposed her head from previous scenes onto some woman's body and like it's using previous dialogue from like other episodes other scenes so even in the performance it feels so jarring the way it's edited because you know the line that she's delivering in that scene is not the way it was originally written or

intended yeah if you know what i mean it's very badly done i wish they hadn't have done that because it's a it really cheap it would be so much cheaper just be like oh she died tony and just That's it. That's that. They didn't need that scene. They really didn't need it. It's not like it was the most crucial thing in a chair. It really wasn't.

Oh, if without that scene, you'd be lost. It would actually be so much better if she's just like, yeah, she's dead. Here's the thing, okay? Let's say HBO, they're like, we're making so much money off Sopranos. How are we going to milk this? Yeah. So they were released Sopranos special edition with update CGI. Okay.

Okay. So, uh... Yeah, that might be better. And they were released a special edition. special episode and they've got way better and it's like, uh, he's got Andy Circus. And his mother's like jumping from building to building. I'm Spider-Man now.

Oh, you don't care about me. I'm saving people from the fires, but you don't care. So would you be up for them fixing the episode or do you actually kind of there's almost like a charm to it now? Like that's what I was like back then. Yeah, I mean, no, I don't find it charming. I just find it, it looks cheap, it looks terrible

and it's completely unnecessary, they could have done without it. Would you say that's the only bad thing about Sopranos? No, I wouldn't say that. I'm sure, you know, I think there are at times some things that maybe don't work, but for the most... Could you give me an example?

It's damn near perfect. Can you give me an example of something doesn't work in the Sopranos? Well, because I can't think of anything, but I'm tall about it. Just like performances, you know, maybe. Like A.J., he's not the best.

Like, you would say that it's better that he can't really act. I think that's a good point. maybe. I don't know. It's hard to specify. Obviously, that is the big black mark, but I think I would like to say

that's the one and only problem with it, but I think it would be a bit dismissive or naive to say it. No, it's completely perfect from start to finish except for that one thing. I'm sure if you really started to analyze it and dissect it, there would be things that don't really work very well.

It's hard to think of one off the top of my head. Maybe if you rewatched it recently, you could tell. Yeah, or if I, you know, if you sit down to kind of like, all right, I'm gonna, I'm gonna stop being a little fan boy and actually look for, try to criticize it, if you know what I mean. I was thinking there, like, whereas I hold it in such, I have such reverence for it and love it so much. If you could, here's the thing, okay, if you could recast AJ, Anthony Jr. Is there anyone you think, like, around that time could have done a better job? Child actors from the 90s.

Well, who thinks like who's big now and think like, think like, I just happen to have a scrapbook here of my favorite child actors from my 90s in my special folder. What you've done is nobody's allowed to look at. You've cropped the heads and put them on naked women. I don't know. I don't know.

I can't think of anyone. We're getting Bob. Toby McGuire. Yeah, fine. He'd been too old, though. C.G. Yeah, why not? Why not?

Martin Short. Jiminy Click So, Tony, you have killed somebody And why did you do that, Tony? Why did you do that? Oh, you love to kill people. That's what you love to do.

You love to kill people. That's your favorite thing. Yeah, Jiminy Glick is AJ's Subrano. We fixed it. Yeah, there you go. Okay, let's get back to it. Let's get back to it. So now we see the actual, like, the fainting.

Right. Yes. This is all the lead up. He passes out. So we see, I'm a big barbecue for Jimmy Click's birthday. If Jimmy Clicks's birthday. Oh, it's my birthday, yes.

That's some cake for me, please. Anyway, sorry, go on, go on. Okay, so they're all having fun, okay? Tony is smoking a big... Jesus, how long have we done? 44 minutes. We're so far behind. We're so far behind.

You haven't even got to invading you. We're nowhere near the end. Oh, so God. This is so funny. This might be a two-part, I think. This is so funny. let's just keep going fucking we're going to the end

this is two-parter yeah yeah it's gotta be a two-parter okay so he's cooking food okay he's barbecuing okay yeah big fucking cigar he's happy as Larry okay yeah yeah

sees the ducks they fly away yes okay he feels sad suddenly he faints no initially he's like kind of looking and like oh they're flying away

he's happy then he's like but then he gets sad and then he gets sad and then he gets kind of dizzy and then passes out and faints. Okay, yeah. And he drops the, what do you call it?

It's like the, you know, lighter, lighter fluid. The squirt juice. Yeah, lighter fluid on the barbecue and it explodes. And then everybody comes running out. They're like, oh, no, daddy. Oh, no, daddy is best.

I'm sorry. I'm just going to keep going back to Jiminy Glick. My father has lost consciousness on my birthday. And why did you do that? Why did you ruin my birthday? Better. Who the fuck is gonna know who Jiminy Glick is? You know what I mean?

Nobody knows who the fuck Jiminy Glick is. This is the most obscure fucking thing. Anyway, let's get back to it. So, AJ's party's ruined. Yeah. Okay. So Tony has to get an MRI. Tony's the MRI machine.

Stop it. Like, fuck. Tony's in the MRI. Yeah. Yeah. All right. All right. So he's like freaking out.

He's like, this could be cancer. I could be dying. And Carmela's just kind of standing there like, yeah, well, we're going to find out. Yeah. And Tony's like, oh, some bedside manner you've got, you know. But she's like very, she doesn't seem very concerned or whatever. She's great acting because you get the sense that like, she's still pissed off at him. Yeah.

But also like her husband's might have a tumor. Remember that scene It's like Yeah well you're going to go to hell That's that That was Yes that's where she says it Yeah

Yeah When you die You're going to go to hell Yeah yeah You can The facial movement It's not obvious But you can tell

Like she feels a little bit bad About saying that The fact that she said it Yeah Yeah She said that Why he's getting MRI Yeah

Yeah Yeah she's like Oh Yeah It was in poor taste Yeah Yeah So anyway

He gets the results And it's all fine It's like No tumours His brain's fine It's all good So then the doctor suggests that it's psychological

and that it was a panic attack that caused him to pass out so that's why he's in Dr. Malthy's office Now what I like about the fact this is Tony actually has gone to college for a little bit like he didn't graduate Yeah he did like a semester

He knows a little bit about fucking Freud Freud yeah yeah So he's not like an idiot I love that little This little rant that he does Is just great though Yeah that little bit was like Oh dysfunction for goo

Yeah yeah it's like It's like he misses the strong silent type Gary Cooper but now you've got to be in touch your feelings and then he's like but what people didn't realize about Gary Cooper is once you got him started talking about his feelings he wouldn't shut the fuck up and his depression there said depression there

enough on go yeah it's just such a beautiful little rant and it's like because you know a part of you just go yeah fuck yeah I so agree with that but really you can't be like that because mental health is a very important thing fuck therapy yeah do you know what I mean let's go around the burn I'm just gonna flush my meds

I'm Gary Cooper you know what I mean like go around burning down all the therapist office there is a little part of you that goes fuck yeah you know what I mean it's a it's a nice little rant yeah yeah but um obviously you know it's not as black and white as all that

actually speaking of therapy for second yeah um I was looking up therapist Nunn Dock because I was like bored and I was like oh let's let's have a bit of fun okay yeah and apparently you can get real cheap therapist that are learning do you know that what yeah yeah yeah you can get real

cheap amateur therapist Are you serious? You know the way you're getting a haircut you get cheaper if you go to the you go to the junior barber like so you go to

the fair like instead of barber college it's therapy college yeah basically yeah so you can get you can get you pay him like it's like half price

and you get their students like and listen to your problems oh my god well look so then I mean that's that's they're learning

you're getting helped hopefully yeah unless they're duds like but here's the thing you wouldn't want to be severely mentally ill you'd want to be just I guess a little anxious I feel depressed sometimes

but I can deal with it for the most part I just need to come and talk to somebody once a week that's fine but if you're like border personality if you're like I've killed I'm going through it again oh Mr. Anderson oh what's this Billy

your patient committed four more murders and 17 rapes That's a C-minus, Billy, I'm afraid. Oh, no, I'm not going to be able to go to spring break. My parents see my report card. I was laughing, like, let's say, like, someone comes in as, like, I've been having bad thoughts. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And bad dreams.

And my dog is telling me to do bad things, okay? And imagine the therapist, like, oh, have you tried exercise? Go for a walk. Yeah. No, you don't understand. The devil's in. my brain. Uh,

baby go snowboarding? I don't know. I should just go, you're fucking mental. You're bloody daft in the end, pal. You need fucking out. Get out.

You know, just like, yeah. They're just like recording them the whole time. It's like, all right, do a TikTok dance with me

while you cry. Boop, boop, boop. I don't know what TikTok is. Anyway, oh,

we're going, this is, this could be a three-part or the way we're going. No, when we get going like okay yeah um so while this is all going on we see uh chris doing a bit business as well yeah he's um chris wax a guy that's right in the in satrials they're like he's selling him coke yeah yeah it's like and while the guy he's doing the line Chris pulls out

a glock and shoots him in the head no i thought it was interesting in fact that he let him do a line before he shot him in the head yeah i think that it's this kind of weird mafia honor of like yeah but i gave him a cigarette first Because I'm a gentleman. I think it's more so because his head's down. He's distracted by sniffing the coke. So that's the perfect time to shoot him. Yeah, but there also is like,

this kind of noble thing of like, hey, I mean, I gave him a cigarette. I've seen that a lot of like. Yeah, I mean, arguably it does happen from, there's only one other time that I can think of in Sopranos. I'm talking about real life. Oh, real life. Do you think?

I don't think so. No, because I think when it comes to whacking somebody, you want to make it you want the complete you want the element of surprise bang bang and gone unless of course it is like an execution style

where you and five of your guys take them out to the middle of nowhere and everybody knows what's about to go down or it's a personal thing where you want to shoot them once in the neck but you want them alive a little bit

just so they know what's going on yeah okay you can tell them like this is for Sandra yeah yeah oh Sandra none of your fucking business yeah yeah

okay um so tony's in therapy but he's still trying to like function as a human okay right um so he's cheating on his wife oh of course it with a girl with uh some kind of swedish girl with huge tits a russian yes a little sailor ha very nice very nice oh wait no right in the pilot it's not the russian one it's some blonde one you're right yeah it's a different one in the pilot i assume swedish because he's blonde yeah yeah yeah yeah swedish women are only good white women I've said that That's on wax Put that on my gravestone

Ironically I was killed by a Swedish woman So they're trying to put the mother in a home It's a retirement community Which is something they keep saying And this has played so much for laughs They're bringing into a home And there's like also a little section for like the Yeah yeah

So it's like real nice and domestic And everybody's playing games They're like, so you see Mrs. Soprano? It's a wonderful community. And then they just open a door and you see a kind of like medical wing and she's like, oh, this is a nursing home and she freaks out.

And then Tony Soprano has another panic attack and passes out. Yeah, pass it again, but he's played for comedy. Yes, absolutely. Yeah, definitely. They could have done like a whoop. A little sound effect like, yeah. I'm starting to see a woozy.

Oh no, father has passed out again. All right. No more Jim Neckley like impressions. Yeah. They also go to a strip club to me, Hesh. Yes, who was a friend of Johnny Soprano, Tony's father. He's a Jewish guy, businessman, obviously connections to the mob, but he himself is not a gangster necessarily.

He doesn't kill people. Well, you know, it's interesting. In this episode, we see Hesh, you know, with the guy with the crutches that Tony crippled earlier. Yes. Him and is it Sill or who is it? I forget, it's Hesh and someone else brings that guy to a bridge, and they kind of implied that. And pussy, I think

Big pussy, is Hussie with them? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I think you're right actually. That's why it's weird Because Hesh never gets his hands dirty normally Except for that one thing. Well, I think Hesch probably went under there with the pretense of,

obviously we're not throwing him off a bridge This is just for intimidation. Yeah, you never really saw Hesh like pull out a gun and be like, it's Hesh time, baby. Yeah. Woo! Time for some Jewish magic. You ready for the Hesh?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, so we are the chosen people. Now, Hesh is interesting because he was meant to be played by Jerry Stiller. Fuck, really? Yeah, yeah. Oh, wow. Jerry Stiller. That's great.

He was booked to fly over and everything. Serenity now! Yeah. He was booked and everything. And then the scheduling thing came up, probably had to, like, bail out his son. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, Seinfeld would have ended two years previous. Yeah, yeah.

Well, what stage of Ben Stiller's career? I think Was it like Oh my son's filming reality bites I'm fucking No yeah Reality Bites

The Ben Stiller show That sketch show he did Yeah Like it was around that time I think So he was He showed promise Yeah

Yeah yeah But um Yeah he was a rising star But yeah They wanted Jerry Stiller They wanted Jerry Stiller And then like

Something came up I think I'm glad that they didn't get Jerry Stiller And I love Jerry Stiller But I just don't think It would have worked It wouldn't work

It would have taken them away from King of Queens That's amazing Imagine if they switched it Okay He did King of Queens over Sopranos Imagine it got hesh for King of Queens

Would not have worked No No Okay So yeah Also another little fun thing is We see Artie Bucco's restaurant Okay

Yeah Guess who's a waitress in it Or a hostess Adriana LaServe Chrissy's girlfriend Yeah yeah She was in it They weren't planning

To have her in the full series Really? Yeah She's like Was just in the background and some producer is like I want her in the whole show Well what probably happened

Let's be honest With some producer was like Maybe if we bring her on the show I can harass her And she can't do anything She's a regular Yeah That's probably why all the people

are on the show That's the only reason Anyone ever gets cast That's why Gandalfini guys Gandalfini was cast So somebody could grab his dick Yeah someone's like I can slap his ass

Look at that big touch Oh mama Oh that's a tick boy He's got a great ass And you have your head Oh All a inside it. Ha!

Hooha! Yeah. Al Pacino's is hanging around the set. They're like, ooh. I want to cover him in barbecue sauce. Okay. Well, let's see what help us now. Tony brings Carmella out

to dinner. Right. In Ardi Bucco's restaurant. Yeah, okay. And he's going to tell her that he's going to therapy. He's going to therapy. Does this happen in the pilot, yeah? Yeah, yeah. Okay. She's fully convinced that he's going to tell her he's he's cheating on her.

She has the wine ready to throw in his face. It's like, pitch please, as if I tell you that shit. But he tells her he's doing therapy and she's like so happy. Oh, this is great? I'm so happy. So is your therapist? Is he a good doctor? And Tony's like, yes, he is a good doctor.

And then we were going like, oh, oh, Tony, you sneaky devil. Oh, that's kind of come back to bite him in the ass. It sure is. Yeah. Oh, like imagine the kind of sitcom possibilities of like, Yeah, where's your doctor? Oh, he's right here and he comes, Tony goes away and comes back in, dressed up as a doctor.

With a fake mustache, like, oh, good and talk. Gooden tag. I am the doctor for Tony Soprano. And Carmel's like, nice to meet you, but where's my husband? Oh, I have a feeling he's around you. Yeah. Okay. So, yeah, she's happy that he's in therapy.

Because, you know, obviously he's been having. problems or whatever. Okay, let's just speed this up a bit. Yeah. Yeah, okay. I think we're going to finish this. Okay, okay. Yeah, we're doing all right.

So, Tony, okay, he's telling the fucking Dr. Melfi about all his feelings, stuff like that. He has a dream about his penis falling off. Yes. And a bird takes away. And she's like, oh, what type of bird? And it's like, oh, I don't know if I'm going to water bird. Waterbird. Like a duck.

Yeah. And then he's like, oh, shit. And then it's like, those goddamn ducks. And he starts crying again. He starts thinking about the ducks. And she's like, what is it about the ducks? that makes you so emotional. And the ducks represent his family.

Yes. And when the ducks fly away, he's afraid he's going to lose his family. That's the, his subconscious telling him, you know, you fear losing your family because of this life you're leaving. I think subconsciously, that's the reason it's penis falls off because for a man. It feels emasculated. Yeah, and the only thing that you care about more than your family is your penis. Okay.

And it's like, how am I going to fuck my daughter if she flies away and my penis falls off? It doesn't make sense, Doc. I can't do it. it no more. I'm like, well if my daughter turns to a duck. So you're telling

me, Dr. Malfi, if I dress my daughter like a duck and fuck her in the age, it's going to clear all the bad thoughts out of my head. No, I'm not going to be

a sad check anymore. I got to be a sad clown walking around, huh? I'm going to fuck my daughter. Actually, I'm not saying that at all. Ah. Oh, I got to fuck you too now, huh?

Oh, oh, I'll fuck anybody. Anyway, yeah. Yeah, okay. So, let's speed this up now. Yeah. He comes to like a realization, oh shit, this works.

Therapy's okay. Therapy helps. Therapy is swell. Yeah. Okay, like that. Then he has one final dinner. A.J., the redo AJ's party because the last one got ruined. Yeah. Okay. Now, Junior and Tony's mother

are drives of the house. Yeah. Junior's bitching about Tony. Yeah. Kind of implies that something should be done. Yeah. The mother says nothing. None. Yeah. He does not disagree. Yeah. Silence is not consent.

Yeah. yes is that how it goes silence is not consent yeah yeah okay sure let's go with that but this is the opposite here

where the mother's silent because she wants it yeah the murder the murder she doesn't want to get road you know what I mean I get you yeah yeah yeah

so silence is if you're what's the espraise that people throw around silence is complicit or something like that if you're silent you're complicit

yeah something like you don't share the right meme yeah If you don't put up a black square You kneeled on his neck Or something to that effect And then we have one final scene Of the pool

No ducks No ducks Cut the You know credits Yeah Direct Created by David Chase Yeah

So that's the pilot there Yes Should I tell you a few little facts Before we go Please do Yeah yeah What are we at here We're only

We're only at an hour We're good Yeah just a little bit more Yeah Yeah yeah So Anything you want to say about the pilot before we go into facts?

Some interesting things about the pilot, I guess. The main one to be his voice is different. He kind of, Gandalfini sort of uses his own natural speaking voice on the pilot. But then from episode two onwards, he kind of develops the real Tony Soprano voice. So he kind of changes his accent a little bit to make it more like gangster or whatever.

Yeah. That's an interesting little note. I think this is a great pilot. Oh, yeah, it is. Chase's plan was, if they didn't pick up the pilot, he was going to get money somehow and film an extra 40 minutes and make it into a movie.

Yeah. Which, let's say if they did that, where would the plot go? I assume the plot would be they just try and kill him straight away. Yeah, probably that he gets murder or something. And at the end, let's see how it would end. It would end with like Junior dressed up like Tony,

okay, and AJ picks up a gun and he has to decide which one's the real Tony. Oh, no, I don't know which one is the father. And who are you? Who are you? You're the young. Why would you do that? How would it go? I don't know.

It has to be something done like that. I'd say, good thing about Sopranos is they never went for the easy route. No. The high drama. Because you could have done this thing of like, I know, Meadow gets kidnapped by the Russians. Yeah, exactly. It's never, it's so like the, what's the right word? Domesticity of everyday life.

It's like, it's, you know, the mundane stuff. but it's done so well like some people watch Sopranos and like God it's so slow I can't get into it and I was like I personally don't feel that every bit of it to me is just fucking great the writing and the performances I don't know how anyone could watch

that show and not fucking love it it's a hangout show yeah like it literally same with like days and confused and once upon time in Hollywood you watch it to hang out with these guys yeah exactly it's not really about the plot that much yeah well there is plot in it but it's spread out so you can

enjoy the scenes. It is mostly the performances, though. I mean the fucking, like, Gandalfini and Edie Falco just are both phenomenal. And the amount of people there, like, they're not even actors. They just got them. They're people, like, uh, Pauli, for instance,

okay? Tony Cicero? Yeah, yeah. It's like, you got these people. They can play themselves and just be fucking perfect because they are these people. Yeah. Ah, God. And again, like, I know I said this earlier, but it is one of the funniest fucking show. because so much comedy in it it's so like obviously very dark comedy that makes it so funny

yeah but like some incredible one-liners in it like i mean like uh one the right and okay like yeah it's fucking amazing but also italians are funny yeah they're ridiculous they're ridiculous group of people they're just funny italian americans are funny they are ready to the stage like proper italians are like what is what are these retards up there yeah they're hilarious they really are. They're so funny and they're writing works with it. Let's get the facts, okay? Okay. Fact number one.

The guy who plays Polly before he got the role had been arrested 27 times. Yeah, yeah. He was a criminal. That's true. He's in Goodfellas as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it

feels like Mafia shows are only shows you can do that. We just get like real mafia people involved. Yeah, yeah. If you were doing a show about a bunch of rapists, you couldn't be like yeah we had this rapist hanging around on set except for

what about Chris DeLeia actually yeah he is a rapist who played a rapist or a paedophile or a paedophile yeah yeah see that's the thing

like it's he was like I'm going to be like Paulie okay yeah a real Mafia Don saw the pilot

when it aired in TV and he's somehow gone to contact with James Gandalfini okay and he said love the pilot except

Don's don't wear shorts Oh really Yeah yeah And after that they changed it No it's actually a line Carmine says that to him They got that from the guy That's amazing

Yeah yeah That's class Which is funny you think That Mafia Don sees that And he's like Perfect That's exactly what it's like But not the shorts

Don's don't wear shorts The cheating The violence The murder Yeah Love it Even the ducks Yeah

Imagine if he was like The ducks I don't get it What's it's supposed to mean then he explained to him he's like the fucking ducks don't get down

ducks that's amazing boohoo don't wear shorts I love it I was surprised by this no

improvisation at all perfectly you read it off the script if you if only the cast members taught something

like to add to it it was a fucking process really it wasn't just like hey can we try to take with this it was like

we got to go to the director and fucking David Chase himself and we got disgust this for long periods of time I think he did that just to dissuade people from doing it from okay right right right but I imagine though

in his defense though I imagine a lot of these guys would think they're fucking great and they think like I know I can write way better than this so he probably just had that seen how I talk I know how I talk let me talk how I talk yeah yeah yeah and they probably wanted to change some

like I bet like all those guys are like I should be the style no he does strike me as a very sort of anal pedantic person but as you said it was probably just to like dissuade people from you know improvising and stuff okay two more facts now we've finished okay so during the intervention scene with Christopher oh yeah what is that like season four yeah yeah okay during that Christopher says that Tony will die at 50 yeah one year off okay okay okay yeah

that's just a bit of a coincidence it's not really is it okay I'm just saying maybe we should interview oh

fucking Michael Empirione yeah Imperionion yeah actually he had a cameo in a watchman

oh yeah yeah so you know yeah just a cameo I thought these were going to be interesting facts

Heyo boom here's my last fact okay okay so after he got the pilot yeah not get a suits made by any of the people who worked on the show.

Instead, he went to the former tailor of Juan, John Gotti. Gotti. Yeah. And got the suits made by him. Love it. Because his suits are very fucking, like, flashy and in your face. Which is so cool the fact that, like, he's like, I'm not wearing this shit. You see how he dresses in real life, though?

Looks like a fucking hippie. Yeah. Like bandana and, like, leather waistcoat. and all. Yeah, it's like it's born in the 4th of July. He looks like,

yeah, he's just, he looks like he's in a community theater production of Easy Rider. Yeah, exactly, yeah, yeah.

And the older he gets the funnier it is like. It's just like, dear God, put out a pair of slacks, would you? And he's still just like hanging around

with the East Street band. Yeah, he would actually look less ridiculous if he just wore the suits from Sopranos. Oh, yeah, yeah.

Well, that's, that's all I have. That was the pilot of Sopranos. We kind of, we were a bit all over well we got we got all right though yeah i i think now what be fun is we we're not going to do episode by episode that's ridiculous no yeah but i thought maybe we do

like some episode well first came in mind was a pine barrens but that might be too hard maybe we just picked the the last episode yeah i was thinking maybe the last episode yeah yeah i thought might be fun if we do that for a couple shows so like game of trones first episode first episode last episode yeah okay uh what else keeping up a appearances. Really? No. No, actually.

But, like, other shows like that would be fun to do, like, last and first. Just compare them. Well, I guess Mad Men. I've never seen Mad Men. I've never watched it. I would be very interested to get you to watch the first and last.

But just the first and last? Yeah, just get your opinion. Things like it won't ruin it. Because... But there'd be so little, like, I don't know, watching the last episode of a show when you haven't seen 99% of it.

That's why I'd be interested. Okay. Well, not to spoil it too much, but the last episode is a Don episode. Okay. So everyone else's story gets wrapped up earlier. Right. And then it's about Don on his own. Right.

Okay. But it still would be a huge... It would ruin the entire show for you, but it would be fun. Okay. See, it's one of those shows I do want to watch, though. Well, I'll tell you what. David Chase for years was like, I don't watch TV. Yeah.

It's fucking shit. Yeah. It's fucking shit. He's not wrong. But he did say he liked Mad Men because, obviously because it's written by Matthew Wiener or Winer

Winer Winer I call him Wiener Winer Hey Wiener Wiener Wiener Imagine like Matthew

Matthew Like what's the name Winer Winer Yeah it's Winer Yeah Imagine like he's getting like some kind of award

Okay Like an Emmy for like Lifetime Achievement Yeah yeah And like to present awards Brian and James Oh

Wiener Winer Winer Winer you do your Jiminy Click and everyone's like what are they doing? Oh, you're with the Sopranos

but they're they ripped madmen Man, nobody knows who Jiminy Click is but it's a damn good depression It is great Even Martin Short At the war at the war's Like,

why are they doing this? I don't get this Yeah Let's end it That was fun Yeah, that was very Laft a lot there All right

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