Brian and James Fuck Each Other - Episode 77 : Teenage Girls Are Worse Than ISIS
Episode Date: August 6, 2020A Mean Girls Podcast for sad losers who have orange hair and want to see the Dark Knight Rises...
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all right let's talk about mean girls mean girls the movie now mean girls is a phenomena okay your
pronunciation of that word is quite a phenomenon well how are you pronounce no no no you nailed it you
look look i just i could tell you struggled and uh i'm feeling self-conscious at the moment so i want
i want to like i'm projecting onto you so mean girls mean girls okay yeah my voice almost broken said
it because i get so emotional this is like a perfect film in my in my head it's like perfect film
I think, yeah, it is.
Wow. No, when I say perfect film, I don't mean it's the godfather part two.
Okay.
It's not hostile part two.
I don't mean, I just mean for what it aims to be.
Yeah, it hits all the, like ticks all the boxes or whatever.
It sets goals and it achieves all those goals and exceeds all them.
Okay.
And for a lot of people, this is like their favorite film.
I mean, it's very well regarded.
It's, yeah, a lot of people do love it.
They turned into a musical.
Really?
Yeah.
Okay.
A very successful musical on Broadway.
Interesting.
and that's huge and there's a lot of people who are like
I love the musical let me check out the film
okay like it's introduced a whole new generation
of people and like godfather too
where's that musical
well I'm telling you
I'll be afraid of tonight
there's been production issues
but once you know
once I get Pacino to sign off
I'm pretty confident that will
you definitely do remember the scene in T
like donkey
yeah
have like two guys playing the donkey
and do a little dance
I like that
yeah so
what's your experience with mean girls
when I say mean girls to you
and I point at you what do you think
okay I've never
watched like I've never sat down
and like I'm gonna watch mean girls
I have been like flicking through channels
when it was on watched bits and pieces
I know enough about it
but I've never given it a proper go
to be honest I you know it is kind of one of those movies
people's like oh you ever seen mean girls
I kind of go no you know because in my head
you're too manly for that
Yeah, no, it's not even that.
It's just like, it's my girls in high school.
I really don't think I could, like, connect with it or whatever.
And that was just my own ignorance.
I'll put my hands up and admit that.
But I've heard from enough people that know that's, you know, a very simplistic, you know,
it is a very good film.
You should give it the time of day.
And I think, you know, I kind of miss the boat.
I'm a bit too old now, you know what I mean?
I'm 30 years old.
This is about 16-year-old high school girls.
I think you can still watch it because there's, no, there's lots of adult jokes in it.
Okay.
Like, I think you'll probably have forgotten, because I've forgotten a lot of the adult jokes in it.
And definitely, like, what Tina Faye said about the film is, that when they were showing it to people, like, test audiences.
Sure.
Okay.
The adults would laugh and find it hilarious because there's all these jokes that they're getting, you know.
Right, right, right.
They're like, oh, it's so funny.
The kids would not laugh because it was too real.
Too real.
They were, like, they were actually relating to the character, and they were cringing the whole time, in a good way, like.
PTSD, almost.
Yeah, like, V-S and V-N-Vee.
so like yeah yeah
like Vietnamese soldiers
they were coughing
because of aged orange
stuff like that
yeah right right right
I got you
yeah that's kind of like
and they show this in the film as well
like high school is kind of like
a war and it is
dramatic dramatic to some people
well I went to an old boy
secondary school
so I mean it was
there wasn't so much the bitchiness
there was a lot of like
insults being thrown back and forth
and a lot of violence like I got
you know I got punched in the face
a lot and then you know by proxy
punched people in the face.
So, you know, toxic masculinity
is kind of a perfect way
to describe my secondary school experience.
And you know what? That's actually, you were so lucky.
Really? Yeah, and I hope when you were getting
punched in the face, you should think. Thank God
there's no girls here laughing at my small dick.
Yeah, because what they're showing this film a lot is
like this film highlights that women, like men will just like
punch each other and call each other like homophobic slurs.
Sure, sure. And you know, like
throw a brick through your windows
with the slur written on it
or like maybe they couldn't fit all of it on one brick
so they're like just OT is like written on the second brick
oh yeah it's like scrabble you get like
you get like six bricks in your window like F
you gotta put them all together
what to spell F, A
oh no
I think I get this is cool I don't have enough windows
to facilitate all these bricks
so they just like knock on the door and hitching in the face
with it ding dong
Yeah, so that's one thing, okay, but women now, they will destroy someone psychologically
over the course of months.
They play the long game.
Yeah, and we see this in the film.
Women grow up quicker and they mature brain-wise, okay, quicker than lads.
So while lads are like, duh, I'll hit them.
Yeah, we're all just knuckle-draggers, basically.
Women are like, how can I plan the perfect crime?
Very McAvellian, really, isn't it?
Like, they just, like, strategically is like, okay, on Tuesday, I'm going to slightly
compliment her but on Wednesday
I'm gonna pull the rug out from under Thursday
another little compliment Friday
yeah they're basically even
negging yeah without
trying to actually like fuck them
okay yeah they're actually like I'm nagging
just to make you commit suicide
that's how they bust a nut
if a friend of theirs commits suicide
because of them that's what gets the wall
let's be honest every teenage girl deep down
once not even their enemies
wants their best friend to commit suicide
because of a slow
light they can't remember why they're like you did something bad once i don't know what i was but
i want you dead yeah yeah we should preface by saying uh obviously we're gonna make a lot of jokes
here about women or whatever we're not it's about time it's long over and we're like m lk
we're saying to things we're gonna give a speech i have a dream where these bitches finally
get what's common to him because i ain't taking this shit no more uh yeah yeah well look obviously like
Yeah, we're just fucking around here.
We're talking about, let's stress this.
We're talking about teenage white girls.
American teenage white girls.
Yes, yes, yes.
Scum.
The worst, the antithesis of humanity.
Can you think of a worst group of people?
I implore you.
Go on.
We'll, let's just go silent for 12 seconds.
As a cis man, I'm saying.
Can you think of a worst group of people?
As a cis white man.
Yeah.
Yeah, to all the Cairns out there.
What?
Well, that's kind of what Cairns.
Like, the girls.
in Mean Girls all grew up to be Cairns.
They would grow up become like
Cairns who think wine is hilarious.
Yeah, wine and percassette.
Ha ha ha ha ha ha.
Yeah, they think, oh, wine o'clock.
Yeah.
That's me.
And the kids are like, you forgot to pick me up from school.
Yeah.
That's me.
Anyway, okay, look, so let's get into the production of this.
Okay, so Tina Fey wrote it.
Now, what happened is there was a book that was made,
that was written called Queens Bees.
Queen Bees and Wanna Bees by...
I like that.
Yeah, yeah.
Queen Bees and wannabes.
That's a good title.
Yeah, no.
Now, that was not intended to be a funny book, really.
It was more like an actual kind of like analysis of the teenage mindset in high school.
When did that book come out?
Let me click on the link.
2002.
Okay.
Okay, so quite like the film was 2004, I believe.
It was a big hit.
It was 2004.
Right, right, right.
So 2002, this book comes out.
It's like half a self-health book and half the analysis of teenage minds.
intended for like a teenage girl to be like help navigate her way through
high school high school experience and puberty in general okay okay so it's a big hit
and Tina Faye sees this and she's like kerching she kerching indeed but she thinks like
I'm going to take the basic premise of this but then put in all my own experiences
into this so it's nearly all her but the basic framework is queen bees and one of
bees okay so she goes like I want to make this Lauren Michaels is like we're going to do this
This is a Lorne Michael's production
It comes up the very first thing you see
Before Mean Girls, for Tina Faye
It says Lord Michaels
Mean Girls predates 30 Rock
Yes
Yeah, okay
So was this kind of Tina Faye's first
Dipping her toes outside of the S&L
thing?
This is her first experience
You know what, SNL is like
This is her airheads
This is her, no way, cone heads
Oh yeah
Because airheads was like a different film
Yeah, it was a different film
Yeah, it was a different movie.
Ah, I blew that, one or two.
I blew it.
Well, look, there's plenty more chances.
Cone heads is what I meant.
Yeah, so, like, S&L was like, you know, she rose through the ranks of S&L, and she became head writer.
Yeah.
But people are like, you ain't shit, Tina Faye.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, what, you're head writer of S&L?
I don't give a fuck.
Yeah, I don't care.
Have you done a successful film?
No?
Then get out of my shop.
Yeah.
You'll get out of my stop.
Oh, who said that?
Anyway.
Some guy just came in.
Some guy just.
popped his head in my room
I'm sick of that
it always happens
stop being offensive
yeah
get out
okay
so
she's like
gonna make this film
yeah
they make it
huge hit
and it becomes
like one of those films
that like
seems to get bigger
every year
like in the pop
culture of it
yeah
even recently
Leo Varadker mentioned it
of course
yeah
well he was kind of
on his whole run
of putting movie quotes
into his speeches
yeah and then people
were like
duh
That's cool.
Watch, brilliant!
Yeah, yeah.
Like, he will be like, yes.
It was kind of like...
It wasn't it like he was like reading off like the dead, like how many people died.
The following people are dead.
Boo, you whore.
Yeah.
Yeah, pretty much.
Oh, that's not Fletch.
Or Fetch or whatever to call it.
Fetch. I think Fetch is what they're in.
No, Felch is like a felching.
Isn't that?
That's like a Kevin Smith thing, isn't it?
I don't know.
I just heard of it.
It's like we, it's like when you spit on a woman, isn't it?
No, I heard felching.
was um when you like it's like you get shit on the dog no you get somebody to stand like to jump
on a corpse while you wrap your mouth around the orifice and you receive whatever fluids
come out i didn't know those corpses involved yeah i think that's it i could be totally wrong i probably
am well anyway we'll talk we'll do another episode about that yeah yeah yeah okay so look she makes
the film i'm just going to like the plot of the film now okay right so it starts off lindsay lohan
right now it's sad watching her and
this because you're like
because you know where it's going
you're like oh she had life and energy
she had a lot of potential
and she could like move her face
and things
and Lindsay Lohan definitely is
there's a hint
of sadness
throughout the film now
when you're watching it
because you're like
she's really good
yeah yeah
and not true fault of her own
but like
it's like you're seeing
you're seeing a chicken
right before it gets its head cut off
okay
I like that analogy
sure
because like oh this is great
It's full life.
And then, like, Hollywood gets their hands on her.
Yeah.
And, uh...
Well, Child Star, the parent trap.
She was very young in that.
Oh, yeah, I think she was on her own, living in, like, L.A. by, like, 16.
Yeah, yeah, that's not good.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Or...
Or maybe.
Yeah.
Did her, did her right.
I mean, like, yeah, it ruined her life.
She's very sad now, but she got to be in mean girls.
She got to be in mean girls.
Yeah.
Definitely a career highlight, I would say, for her.
For her, this is...
This is...
It's probably her.
best work. What other film would you say?
Well, see, everyone loved her in the parent trap, but she had
that, she was so young, it was very much the child
actor thing. Also, parent trap, like,
I don't know, like, I feel like
this is more like, this is her film.
She's the star of the film, she's narrating
the fucking thing, like... Okay, yeah, I get you, I get you.
This is all her. This is definitely the high point.
Parent trap wasn't Dennis Quaid involved?
Dennis Quaid and somebody else, but Lindsay Lohan is,
it's about twins. She's playing both
twins, like, so it's like a double
role. Yeah. So everyone was really
blown away by... She was like a kid and
that so it's like
you know
Macaulay Culkin
who cares
exactly
but this is like
old
now she can be
a star
what age is she
in the film
she's 16
but she's got
massive tits
man that's one thing
I'll say
like the one thing
that I remember
about this movie
is like
the scene at the
I know you're
going to get to it
but just the scene
at the talent
contest when there's
the four of them
dressed as like
sexy Santa's
dancing
provocatively
it's really hot
and they're all
meant to be like
16 now
I saw this movie
when I was
16 or I saw this scene when I was 16 you know what I mean yeah so I'm not you can't get me
you're not gonna get me I ain't no Brian Kellan baby listen to that FBI my god this guy's ear
tight I don't know how we're gonna get them well that's what I mean like they do they're not
afraid they're very sexualized they're not afraid of addressing the fact that kids that age are
having sex yeah I've seen it I've seen I've been there yeah they're experimenting with their bodies
okay they're all like given hand there's multiple references to like hand
job.
Yeah, like one stage, one of the characters
like, oh, it's half a virgin when I met him.
Ah, okay.
Like, there's like, lots of sexual stuff like that.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel like this is like the last time
you can make this film.
Yeah, it's still kind of half sexual
but not like insane.
Yeah, you couldn't get away with it now.
Where now we'd be like 12 year olds
and they're all doing poppers.
And, like, they're all like,
oh, did your sex tape get leaked?
It got more views than mine.
Fuck you.
Anyway, sorry.
So I kind of took you on a tangent there.
But yeah, so.
So Lindsay Lohan, okay.
Yeah.
It's their first day of school, but she's 16.
Right.
Because she's been in Africa the whole time.
Right.
Yeah.
Her dad and mother, her parents are like bought into like, they're both academics, okay?
Okay.
And they're being Africa doing stuff.
She's been homeschooled the whole time in Africa.
Right.
And now they're back in America.
Okay.
So it's her first day of school, but she doesn't know like how white people.
Okay, so she's been, wait, was she, she wasn't, where was, when did they go to Africa?
Has she been there for years?
years like
she's never like being like
like a school
American high school
okay I see right
and even like the parents are like
oh she's 16
is she old enough
to go to
because they're a real protective
right
they're almost like
maybe we should
homeschooler until she's dead
yeah okay
and the parents are
Neil Boyle
is how you say
Flynn
the janitor from Scrubs
oh okay
yeah and some girl
from SNL
right
which I have to say now
fair play
to Tina Faye for not loading
this film full of S&L people. She didn't do a
sandler on it. Yeah. It's not like
Billy Madison. Yeah, there's like...
There's Amy Poehler for like two scenes.
Of course, yeah. And then you've
got like Tim Meadows as
the one of the teachers. And that's
basically it. And the mother is
like an S&L cast member as well, but she's
like one of those that like... The obscure ones.
Yeah, never really went on to like bigger things.
Let me find it here.
Yeah, I don't... I actually
looked her up and I didn't recognize her. Yeah, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter
at all, yeah. She's probably dead, who cares? Well, Will. Yeah. If my plan has worked.
All right. Yeah. So she goes into school, okay, first day of school. Yeah. And immediately
goes wrong. Okay. Like, she's like, oh, I'm scared of everything, okay? All right. And then, like,
she bumps, knocks, her teacher walks in Tina Faye, okay? Bumps coffee all over. Okay. And then
Tina Faye takes off her shirt. Oh. Yeah. And you can see her bra.
And that's when
Tim, what's his name?
Tim Meadows walks in
because he's another teacher
and have a bit of an awkward like, oh.
Oh, so I guess she didn't just do it there
in the class or in front of everyone is like...
No, she did, yeah.
What?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
Because what happens is it's on like her shirt
and she thinks she has an undershirt like,
but she accidentally pulls up boat shirts
and you see her bra and the teacher walks in
and it's like, hello.
Oh, right.
Yeah, and then there's like a funny scene where you get...
Hey, biology's down the hall.
no i'm serious this is uh this is a very egregious you're you're gonna get in a lot of trouble i think
all jokes aside you know you spilled coffee on my shirt and he just whips his dick out yeah yeah
is this right yeah it spills coffee in his jeans he accidentally pulls down his jocks as well
yeah takes his socks off for some reason
he just puts a tangerine in his mouth and a carrot up his ass yeah okay so so it's or she's like
overwhelmed by the whole thing she's like
what is going on here but then eventually
she meets like two people
she meets um let me look up their names
like a fat gay guy and Janice
Janice played by Lizzie Kaplan
I love Lizzie Kaplan
yeah she's great and Damien is the gay guy in it
yeah I know him from uh he was in a
Larry Clark movie called bully
and he was very good in that
yeah he's great in it and I have to you know
like we've all seen the gay
stereotype stereotype
type friend.
Sure.
Now, a lot of these films
like we'll have one gay guy
in it.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Now, he's a,
he's a caricature.
He does no other gay guy.
He doesn't kiss any men.
Right.
No way.
We got to sell this film
to a mainstream audience, okay?
So we can't have him
touch another men.
Sure.
None, but we'll just have him
being like a kind of gay clown.
Hanging out with the girls
and just being kind of,
you know,
sassy and mean.
Yeah, basically talking like a black woman.
Yeah.
Uh-uh-uh, uh-huh.
Uh-huh, girlfriend.
Yeah.
Come of you and barbecue sauce.
I ain't seen you in a minute
No, no, no
Yeah, he doesn't say that
Okay
But he's basically a caricature, okay?
But he does the best version of that caricature
Where he's actually funny
There's some very funny scenes for him
Where you go like, oh, that's funny
Not because he's gay
But just because it's funny
Yeah, yeah
Well, Tina Fey, it's well written
And I know that guy is a good actor
So, you know, I think
When you get that combination
And I'm sure she was smart
enough to realize, you know, we need to
give this character more of a, you know,
more dimension as opposed to just the caricature.
Yeah, I know, but if this was made now,
like, definitely, like, if this was, it's,
it was progressive for the time, but if this was made now,
definitely would have given him, like, I don't know,
a gay friend. Yeah.
Or, like, maybe, like, have a little relationship with him.
Okay.
Or maybe, like, um, like, you ever watch Euphoria?
No.
The HBO show?
No.
It's, uh, it's kind of like, no.
Extreme skins.
Okay.
So it's like teenagers having sex, but like, you know, they're all wearing strap-ons.
Okay.
They're all camming and they're all getting raped by their dads.
Awesome.
Yeah.
Everyone there is either...
Sign me up.
Everyone on the show is like molested or on like Zoloff.
Really?
Yeah, yeah.
Wow.
Jesus.
Yeah.
Finally somewhere to belong.
I think like half the cast are trans.
Yeah.
I think black or trans.
What milligrams of Zoloft?
I mean, if they're not hitting triple digits, I don't want to fuck with them.
I don't fuck with that pussy shit.
It's like, oh, 20 milligrams is a
amateur hour.
I hit the bricks.
I don't give a fuck.
They don't mix it with whiskey.
They don't crush it up and do lines of it.
Yeah, I've heard euphoria is good,
but I heard it's very,
I think like the first episode,
a trans person gets raped.
Okay.
And then like, I think like everyone's committing suicide.
Cold open, was it?
No, I just think like everyone,
everyone in the show commits suicide like multiple times.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
I survived my suicide attempt.
Again.
Oh, Wednesday.
God, millennials, just can't get anything right.
So anyway, we, Lindsay Lohan meets Janice and Damien.
Okay.
And they kind of bring her around the school.
They show her what's what.
Give her the lowdown.
They show her all the clicks.
The 4-1-1.
All my slang comes from 1983.
What it is?
Soul brother?
I don't know.
Anyway, go on.
I just imagine you mother him.
just like in a tie-dye shirt
and an afro
what it is my brother
oh here look the fuck
and check that cut there
yeah
it's so funny
like
they just like
tie me to the back
of a Massey Ferguson
and drag me through the streets
it's like
it's 90s Monaghan
you're like
walking around
and like
stop the Vietnam
War t-shirt
I gotta go
to a million man mark
brother
oh god
okay
so she they introduce
Lindsay Lohan
to like how
high school really works.
Right, right, yeah.
So there's like, there's the jocks,
the nerds, the stoners,
the cool Asians.
Cool Asians?
Not cool Asians.
Okay.
Well, I'm sorry, how do they,
what makes an Asian cool or not cool?
Well, in the film, they show like Asians,
like, who look like they study.
And then Asians who, like, are all wearing cool jackets.
And, like, Tokyo Drift kind of thing.
They all have, like, big zooped up cars.
No, they just got their feet up on the table and stuff like that.
Okay, right.
They got, like, a toothpick.
in their in their mouths like yeah
flipping a nickel
you know
just up and down
like they're cool in the 50s
yeah yeah yeah yeah they're like
like a doop street guy
like
whee
wooee
wow black in me
and
and then you know
the Jewish kids
and stuff like that
you know all the Jewish kids
all the different clicks
wow okay
and then finally
the plastics
the plastics
yeah yeah okay
so these are the mean girls
yeah
these are the ones that everyone's
afraid of but also kind of like
it's kind of like they're popular
everybody wants their
approval but we all hate
them kind of like a dictator right
you want to be on the right side of them
and praise them in public
but behind closed doors you're like fuck those bitches
now these mean girls can make
or break you okay
now if they say nice shirt
yeah you're happy for a week
right okay if they say
nice shoes
But in that tone
Yeah
Fucking rope
Okay
It's so loft to clock
Instead of whining the clock
It's so loft to clock
I'm very unhappy
Like if they say you're not popular
You're not popular
And that's it
If they just picked out some random nerd
And we're like
You're actually like cool
Yeah
He would fuck the entire school
Like he would
He would rise through the ranks
Yeah he would become
If they can pick
Who's Prom King
They're kind of like the Illuminati
of this
Okay I like that
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
They have complete control.
They take, you know, to Bohemian Grove and you have to, like, slice open a four-year-old's chest.
If they want to, they could kill a president.
Okay.
If they can make a, if they can whack a president, they can make a prom king.
They have complete control.
And this really...
And this really highlights how scary those popular girls can be.
Okay, yeah.
Like, I watched two films back to back.
I watch London has fallen.
Right.
The Gerard Butler film.
Oh, okay.
Where Muslims destroy London.
Okay.
And then I watch mean girls.
Yeah.
And popular girls are way more scary.
Than fun.
Extreme fundamentalists.
And like, just go on a tangent for a minute.
London has fallen is very funny at the start.
Yeah.
And it gets very boring quickly.
But the first 20 minutes is great because like, um, so basically Gerard Butler is like the president's bodyguard.
Okay.
Right.
And he's the president?
Arn Eckhart.
Oh, okay.
Yeah.
And he's about to quit, and then it's like, oh, no, the British Prime Minister died.
Okay.
So they got to go to the funeral.
Right, right, right, right.
Okay.
So they're going to the funeral.
Everyone's driving to the funeral.
Yeah.
You got the, no Irish Taoiseach actually.
Good.
But you got like the Italian tea shock, the French Taoiseach.
Yeah.
Japanese tea shock.
Okay.
They're all driving to it.
And then you see, like, there's, and while there's no good Muslims, this film.
Okay.
They're all Muslims who walk around.
go like sinister
Duh do la lila lila
And he's looking around
Every time they come on screen
I'm it's like
Yeah it's all shifty
Yeah
And then they blow up London
Right
Where they're like
They blow up the Italian
Prime Minister
The French Prime Minister
gets like a missile
hits his head
Like he just explodes
Like a mushroom cloud
The
They blow up London Bridge
And like the Japanese
Prime Minister just falls off the bridge
Okay
Yeah it's very fun to watch
And it gets boring
real quickly
Right right right
But for that bit
Yeah it was
fun to watch a film that I was made relatively
recently, but is so
Islamophobic. Yeah, but I was like, at least they're not teenage girls.
At least they're not talking about, you know,
how shit your burqa is.
Yeah, like literally, I went to go for a run in the park
recently. Yeah. So I moved back up Dundalk and I was like, I'm going to
go for a run. Okay. No, fresh start. Sure. I went for a run.
I saw teenage girls and I stopped. Because I didn't want them making fun of me.
That's, yeah. I'm 25 years old.
But I'm still like, they're going to be mean to me.
Well, it's true.
Because there's something you can do.
You can't hit a teenage girl in public.
Believe me.
Yeah.
Learn that one the hard way.
Yeah.
Well, hold rigum a roll.
Anyway, let's get back to mean girls.
Yeah, okay.
So she introduces them Lindsay Lohen to the plastic.
So you got Regina George, Rachel McAdams.
Okay.
Who has had a great career, and she's great in this film.
Okay.
You've got Amanda Seafreed.
Yes.
And you've got some other.
Bitch.
Lacey Shabair.
Is that her name?
Yeah, the original voice of Meg Griffin.
Oh.
Yeah.
Before Milakunas took over.
That's interesting.
Because you know if you go on to her Wikipedia page now,
her big thing is that she's done like 16 Hallmark movies.
Yeah, she's like a big Christian or whatever.
Yeah.
She just does Hallmark movies now.
She doesn't really have much of a career.
Do you know why she left Family Guy?
I think she just thought it wasn't going to be successful or maybe because she's a Christian.
It wasn't in keeping with her values.
but she left and then they got Milakunas
I don't think she was fired for Milakunas
I think they made the better option
Yeah 100%
Yeah yeah
So like these girls are
Like
They just suddenly like Lindsay Lohan
They like her
Yeah I think it's because she is kind of attractive
And they kind of sense
What do you mean kind of attractive
Oh in their heads I mean
I mean she's very she got massive tits
So the mean girls see him and they're like
we want her
kind of like
like a
look here the
melanch on that
yeah
like an NFL team
okay
they see a young
player
they're like
he's going to be
something
right
right okay
we're going to
get him now
and mold
him
right
and so they see
that
so the mean
girls see
and they think
like
oh
Lindsay Lohan
is hot
and naive
okay
we can use
our power
and influence
okay
to
ghastly her
oh okay
and make
her own
all right
so like a
hazing process
like
they may
give
these rules she has to do.
Okay.
They're like,
oh,
you can only wear
like one piece
of clothing per week.
No, no,
I mean like,
oh, hey,
I mean like,
sign me up.
If you wear one piece
of clothing,
you can't wear it again
that week.
Right,
okay.
It has to be a totally
new outfit every day.
Yeah,
yeah, yeah,
right, right.
And Lindsay Lohan's like,
well,
I don't really want to be part of this.
Yeah.
But Janice is like,
no,
it'll be funny.
You got to be friends
with them so then we can find
out all their secrets.
Okay,
so it's like a mole.
Like a plant
Like a Russian spy
Ah, okay
So she's got to go undercover
So Lizzie Kaplan's character
What's her, Janice?
Yeah, yeah
She's like, okay, you got to find out
And why to like
To get back at them or something?
Yeah, because we find out
Later on the film
We find out that Janice and Regina George
used to be friends
Ah, okay
And then
Janice, if I remember correctly
He's kind of like a weirdo
goth chick, right?
Also a lesbian.
Oh, okay, right, right, right.
So what happened is they used to be very good friends that were kids, okay, Janice and
Regina George.
Right, right, right.
And then Regina George called her a lesbian and then said, I don't want any lesbians coming
to my birthday party.
Shit.
Yeah.
And then it became a whole thing, and then Janice dropped out of school for a year.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, so now she's back in school and she's got, like, a real hatred.
She's got a vendetta.
Yeah, yeah.
So she's like, oh, yeah, you get Lizzie Lohan, you get all the secrets.
so then we can like plot her revenge.
Right, right, right, right.
Okay.
So Lindsay Lohan goes undercover, okay?
Right.
And it's going well.
Okay.
She meets a guy called Aaron.
Right.
In her class.
And she's like, Aaron's dreaming.
But guess what Aaron used to date Regina George?
Ooh.
Now Regina broke up with Aaron.
Okay.
And she's like, you know, oh yeah.
Lindsay Lohan, you like Aaron?
Yeah, I don't care.
Okay.
You know, but she's like that kind of like.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Oh, I don't care.
I don't have a problem with that.
and then, you know, gives that face
Yeah, of course, yeah
Who's put is Aaron?
Iron isn't nobody
You don't recognize the actor or anything?
I looked him up, he's done nothing
Okay
The only thing he's done is
Is all Mean Girls related
Okay
Yeah
It just goes to Comic Con
Yeah, or it's like
Remember Mean Girls?
Yeah, or it's like
Oh, they did a music video
That is meant to be a parody
Of Mean Girls
Right
And guess who they managed to
get they couldn't get Lindsay Lohan
she was fucking
in rehab
dead in a ditch somewhere
but they got this
they got Aaron
right okay
okay
Regina is rootless
she does whatever she wants
we meet her mother
okay
her mother is played by
Amy Poehler
oh okay
and Amy Poehler's got
big fake tits in it
meant to be very hard
it's actually a very funny scene
where she's got the hard
tits so she can't feel it
and she's holding a dog
yeah and the dog's biting the
Yeah, biting, like, really going hard.
See how I knew it was going there?
Yeah.
I could have written this movie.
I could have written this movie.
I could be Tina Fey is what I'm saying, Brian.
You submit your script.
It's just, uh, dog bites tit.
But it's just like, it's just the exact script for me, girls, but it's just crossed out.
Dog bites tits by James Catton.
You know what that saying, that journalists say, where they're like, um, uh, dog bites man, not a story.
Dog bites tits.
now you got story
yeah yeah
so um
she and Regina George is rich
okay
yeah and like
one of the scenes we see
where we see like how bad
she can be okay
so she's walking along
and she sees like
one of her exes
another one of her exes
because she gets around
okay
another one of her exes
with a girl
and she's like
oh I hate that girl
so what she does is
she calls up the girl's mother
and I was like
hey I'm from plan
parenthood
I just want to say
the abortion went fine
No it's just like
Yeah
When your daughter gets back
Please get her to call me
Yeah
Of course then we hear the mother screaming
Right right right
That's how I mean like they're smart
Okay
Where a lad would like
Let's say if a lad
Was walking on
He saw another lad talking to his ex
Yeah
He'd just like you know
Batter him
Batter him yeah sure
You know put his head down in the fountain
And like you know
Wait till he stops moving
Wait till the bubbles stop
Yeah yeah
Yeah yeah
But Regina George
And then just plant a gun beside him
it was a suicide
that classic suicide
where you have a gun
and drown yourself
yeah yeah
that's the one I mean
that's the one I mean
yeah
uh Regina is a bitch
I'm just reading my notes here okay
it took you that long into the movie
to figure that out
hey there's I tell you this
Regina she's a real
she's a rotten apple
okay
yeah real stinker
she actually gets back with Aaron
okay just to
Just to fuck over Lindsay Lohan.
Even though she's dating another guy.
Right.
She's currently dating someone, but she gets kisses Aaron in front of Lindsay Lohan.
Just to mark her territory.
Yeah, really, it's like pissing on, you know.
It's like, yeah, this is mine.
That is basically because she's pissed on him.
Like, he's mine.
Yeah.
You can't.
Fuck him.
You can't.
Can't even get fingered by him because he's mine.
I run this town.
If you're going to get fingered by anyone, it's me.
Yeah, yeah.
So, um,
So, look, she sees, because before she's kind of like, oh, I'll just get information.
Lindsay Lohan, I mean, she's just getting information.
But then she sees what.
How bad Regina George is.
So then she's like, oh, you know what, actually.
And then she's like, we're getting revenge, capped, hard or revenge.
Hard or.
Yeah, not soft a.
Not soft.
Yeah, hard or revenge, okay.
So then we see all these different schemes he does to get revenge.
Now, the most successful scheme is she has these, like, nutrient bars.
I remember this, yeah, like she's telling Richard McAdams, these will make you skinny, but they're actually, like, they make her fat.
They're actually designed for you to gain weight.
Right, right, right.
Like football players take it.
Bodybuilders and stuff.
Because she has them, because when she was in Africa, had to give them, like, malnourished children.
Right, okay.
To gain weight.
Right.
But then she gives him Regina George, and Regina George keeps getting bigger and bigger, okay?
Right, right.
And she's like, I'm getting bigger.
Yeah.
And then Lindsay Lohan's like, no, that's what they do.
Oh, yeah, it's like, yeah, you kind of blew up.
but then you drop all the way
at overnight kind of thing.
You gain weight
and that's your water weight
and then you lose that
and then you're a model.
Super skinny.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Why did Regina George
because she was skinny initially
so did Lindsay Lohan kind of
because she's obsessed with her weight
though like she's constantly checking things
and counting carbs, stuff like that.
Right, right, right.
And Lindsay Lohan sees that
and like a woman, she sees
insecurity and she uses that to her advantage.
Her kryptonite.
Yeah, yeah.
And then eventually Regina George wearing sweatpants.
Because she gains so much weight.
Yeah, yeah.
And that, for her, like, that's crushing.
Right.
And I should say as well that she's also, another bit of revenge, okay,
is that she has been sowing the seeds of discontent.
Yeah.
Amongst Regina George's friends.
Who Lindsay Lohan has?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So she's saying stuff like...
She's turning them all against her.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Right, right, right.
Like little small things.
okay like
stuff like
oh I hear
Regina George say something about
you know
this little thing here
I'm sure she didn't mean it
and the friends like
oh yeah I'm sure she didn't
yeah
like getting panicky
okay right right
and does Lindsay Lohan
does she just go after
Richard McAdams
or does she go after
the other two
no because the other two
are just like
pawns
yeah just pawns
they don't know
any better
okay right
like Amanda Seafreed
really doesn't know
yeah I remember she was the real
ditsy one right
There's a joke where she says her tits can predict the rain.
I think I remember that.
Yeah.
She feels it when it's raining in her tits.
And I'm like, yeah.
So she's just like grabbing her own titties the whole time.
Just like, it's about to rain.
No, but it's just like, it just shows like how like she is kind of pretty clueless.
Okay.
She's great in it.
She actually auditioned for Regina George.
And they were like, you're too funny.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Too likable, maybe.
That as well, but they were like.
Or not mean enough, maybe.
Well, then also it's like you have.
this quirky
sense of comedy
why don't we just
give you the funny lines
the bitchy lines
right okay
yeah and she's great
in it like
yeah
I like Amanda Seafreed
yeah
I like Rachel McAdams
as well
she's great
like yeah
but guess what
okay so eventually
because
Regina George is wearing
sweatpants
yeah
they're like
you're out of plastics
okay
because you can't wear
sweatpants
yeah and also
because everyone
hates her now
right okay
so she's been
dethroned
she's been dethroned
like Gaddafi
Oh my God, yeah.
Obama was just feeding them protein bars.
Yeah, she was eating by her own people.
They just dragged her through the high school.
I'd like beat the shit out of her.
She was hiding in the pipe and then they found her.
So this is a tale is all the time itself, okay?
Right.
So the spy comes in to take down the operation.
Sure.
but as she's doing it
she actually starts to like it
she rises through the ranks herself
when she gets the power
so she becomes the new queen
of the plastics
she's like
oh I actually like this
and then you know Janice is like
oh what are we going to do next
and she's like
I'm actually going to hang out with
the girls
yeah yeah
and coincidentally
I don't want any lesbians at my birthday
so yeah take a hike Janice
she starts blanking Janice and Damien
because she's having too much
fun and she starts
to become stupider
Oh really?
Yeah, yeah
because as well
in her maths
Aaron is in her maths class
Okay
So she's be pretending
to be dumb at maths
Oh
Oh like suppressing
her own intellect
To not make him
feel insecure
No but also
So he will help her
Oh I see
Right
Right okay
So he can get
She
She can get him
To come over
To her house
And give her
Tutorial
Well that's code
For Cunolingus
Yeah
Yeah
Yeah
And if Tina Fais
a teacher and she's like, you're doing bad here.
Yeah. Why?
Because all the work is right, but the answer is wrong.
Right. And she's like, oh, I don't know. I'm just a girl.
Yeah. Yeah. And but she's pretending to be dumb for so long. She actually starts to get dumb.
Oh, I see. Yeah. And there's something in, uh, you know, science I would support that hypothesis.
Well, it's me like, you're being lazy. Okay. And you're like, you're like, I don't need that math.
Yeah. She's not studying. Fair enough. Okay. Now, there's a subplot where,
this cool Indian kid
who loves hip-hop music
okay
wants to get her
in the matlitz
right right okay
and she's like
that is like
not plastic
that is like not cool
okay
and Tina Faye wants her
to be in the
the matlite as well
okay
so Tina Faye
brings her
holds her back
after class one day
and she's like
shows her her tits
I don't know
shows her one
tits
like
you want more
there's more
with that
Yeah, you can do maths, right?
One plus one equals these big tinnies, bitch!
Yeah, all right.
Okay, so Tina Faye is trying to motivate her to stop this whole plastic lifestyle.
Okay.
And become good at maths again.
She's like, listen, I'm a pusher.
Okay.
I push people.
That's why my husband left me.
I'm a pusher.
Okay.
And that's why my child is no longer alive.
I'm a pusher.
balcony bad place for me to be
yeah so again like
Lindsay Lohan is like oh yeah
whatever and then she leaves when she talked
to her friend she's like oh she kept kind of a pusher
yeah she's probably a drug dealer pushing drugs
right okay so oh
they have a book I forgot to mention this
they have a book back in
their houses okay
and it's a book where they write down
mean things about people in school
oh is in like
like a scrap book
it's a scrap book yeah where they put
a picture of a class member
and they write down mean things about them
and it's all, you know, like, oh, she's a skank
she got a nose job
she got pregnant, you know, stuff like that
okay, lesbian,
gay, black.
None of this stuff
is actually mean. Oh, okay, right.
This is like the manifesto.
It's like the female equivalent
of a manifesto.
Not a Nazi.
Like this write down mean stuff, okay?
Yeah, okay.
So in the book,
they write down mean stuff
about Tina Faye.
Right, right, okay.
This comes back later on,
so remember that, okay?
Oh, I will.
This book is a smoking gun.
Oh, okay.
And it's coming back right now.
Yes.
So,
you didn't want to leave it too long
against I forgot.
It's like he won't be able to remember.
A fucking nitwit.
I write down my book.
You have a book,
but it's just,
you have volumes and volumes of shit
written about me.
It's like,
That fat fucking dork.
So, okay, as I mentioned before,
Regina George has been banished to wastelands.
Right.
She doesn't have the power anymore.
She, is she just by herself then?
She's by herself.
And there's nothing more dangerous
than a woman when nothing to lose.
Okay.
All right, okay, let me guess.
She releases the book.
She leaks the book.
This is WikiLeaks.
Yeah, she leaks the Hillary Clinton emails.
That's what I mean.
Like, she's so fucking smart.
just in the book they're talking
about pizza and hot dog
what is that code for
but here listen to this okay
she adds an extra page
in the book about herself
she's so fucking smart
she writes a page in the book
about how Regina George is a fogly skank
right right right and she leaks that as well
so like to take the heat off her
so okay listen to this
when Tim Meadows
so she puts it all over school
different pages
Tim Meadows reads what they wrote about him
and it's just one word
and he doesn't like it
what the fuck
yeah
no she writes in the book
like should have had
a better movie career
was overshadowed by Will Farrell
he had one starring
vehicle it didn't work
do you ever see that film
no what was that
Tim Meadows had a chance
to be a movie star
okay
it was kind of like a black
Austin Powers
oh really
yeah I think it was called
like the love
it was called like
the Love Brother
right okay
it was like a black exploitation
kind of parody
okay I did not do
well that's a shame i like tim meadow yeah he's great he should be way bigger yeah uh everything
he's been in he's been great and but yeah he's kind of one of those like uh like cammyel reliable
cameo and tim me eddo shows up it's a safe pair of hands he gets the job done kind of thing
he's very safe pair of hands he's great last thing he was in schooled schooled starring him
and brian callan the famous brian callan the wonderful no i haven't i've been keeping up with the
news.
We'll talk
with Brian
Cal and Crystal Lee
in a minute
okay
okay
because there's a
pretty funny
reference
not reference
it's a pretty
funny like
comparison you can make
okay
okay
so are we
go
no okay
so the book
gets leaked
okay
and what I was saying
was Tim Meadows
finds it
and he's like
well here's a page
about Regina George
yeah yeah
yeah
so there's no way
Regina George
could have written this
right right
women aren't that smart
but
there's nothing in the book
about Lindsay Lohan
Amanda Safe Reed
or the other bitch
Ah, okay
So they get brought in
Right, right, right
And so he's in
Sorry, when you say it leaked
How exactly is it leaked?
I mean she literally walked around the school
Ripping pages out of the book
And putting in people's lockers
Okay
Yeah, as in what, like
Let's say there's a page about Bethany's
So she puts Bethany's page in Bethany's locker
Or even worse, she puts Bettany's page
In Stephanie's locker
And then Stephanie's just sound alike
We're not the same person
And Stephanie's page in
Betany's lockers and they both find it and they're like, wait, what's going on?
Okay, right, right, right.
Yeah, did you write this?
Okay.
Yeah, she's just, again, she's just causing.
Mind games.
Black ops everywhere.
False flag operations everywhere.
There was nanothermite found in the pages of the book.
Yeah, yeah.
Okay.
So he brings them in to interview them, okay?
Right.
And so as he's interviewing them, okay,
school is over people are wandering outside open up their lockers what the hell
anarchy oh yeah full anarchy okay they start punching each other their women are clawing
each other's hairs out right it's like it goes wild yeah yeah uh it start wild and out yeah it turns
to a jungle right okay okay like uh they're like it's anarchy okay okay it gets so bad this is a really
funny scene uh tim mills gets a baseball bat that's good i like
And he goes outside
And he finds a page that says
The coach has been sleeping
With underage girls
Whoa
And there's actually a scene
Of two of the underage girls
Are fighting each other
Because they're jealous
Oh my God
Of the coach
And the coach is like
Hot, girls, girls
And then he has the baseball
Tim Mills is a baseball bat
And he's like
Coach Stevenson
Step away from those underage girls
Right
And it would be funny if Delea played him
Well Brian Callan was at a show
Called coached
Right
Wasn't not schooled
Or schooled you're right
Sorry
But he plays
a coach. He plays a coach. He plays a coach
with a Botox face. It was a spin-off
from the Goldbergs. Yeah, yeah. Terrible
show. Yeah. Yeah. So
it's chaos everywhere.
Right, right, right. So
Tim Males has to, like, bring
them all into the, what would you call
it? Auditorium? Auditorium. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, I think I remember this scene.
Yeah, he's got to try and calm him down. Yeah.
And Tina Faye
finds one pages as well.
Right. About her being a pusher.
Okay. So she knows Lindsay Lohan.
Oh, Han, because she's the only one she said that to.
Yeah, yeah.
Right, right, right.
So then she's, this is not really that funniest scene.
No, this is kind of the poignant moment, isn't it?
It's like, everyone close your eyes.
If you feel victimized or insecure, put your hand up.
Everyone puts the hands up.
And then she's like, open your eyes.
It's like, well, any fucking mongoose bitch could figure that out.
Like, this isn't a big revelation.
Oh, you feel insecure in high school.
fucking hell.
If you've ever
seen any John Hughes movie ever
you probably could figure out
yeah high school kids are insecure.
Yeah they definitely give up the joke section of it
for like the teenage girl
poignant section of it
and the only person who doesn't tell the truth in it
Lindsay Lohan.
Of course not.
So then she feels bad okay.
Right right right.
And you know it's like
it's kind of a thing of like
Tina Faye knows she said it
yeah but Lindsay Lohan won't reveal it
and Tina Faye is like
giving her the opportunity to come clean.
Yeah, yeah, and she's like, no, I didn't say anything, okay.
So then...
I'm in the parent trap.
Yeah.
So in the next day...
30 rocks overrated.
I worked with Dennis Quaid.
And met Randy Quaid.
Very unsettling individual.
I don't want to talk of that.
Okay, so in the next day, okay,
she sees Regina George, and they get into a fight.
Lizzie Lohan?
No, Regina George.
Yeah, Lindsay Lohan sees Regina George.
Right, right, right.
into a verbal fight, okay?
Right.
And during the fight,
Regina George
was hit by a bus.
Oh, yeah,
I think I remember that.
She gets smashed by a bus,
okay?
And everyone thinks
Lindsay Lohan pushed her.
Pushed her, yeah, yeah.
So now the whole of school...
What did happen, though?
It was kind of like they were scuffling.
No, it wasn't even scuffling,
just standing there.
Oh, really?
And she just wasn't watching.
Okay.
It's her own fault.
I'm victim playing.
The bus driver was like,
I read what that bitch wrote about me.
I'm not a folktie skank.
This isn't even
my real job. I play keyboards.
He was like, this is for the coach.
A guy was my hero.
We used to trade pictures on lime wire.
I opened for him at the comedy store.
We'll never be on Joe Rogan again.
Anyway.
Oh, God.
All right, so she gets hit by a bus.
Yeah, and now everyone, they hate her.
Not only do the hate her, the thing she's actually like.
like I tried to kill her
yeah and now everyone
Regina George is like Jesus now
like she died for her sin
isn't it like she's in a full body cast
everyone everyone feels sorry for her
yeah and they hate Lindsay low man
like they're burning crosses outside her house
so he burns when outside Tim Meadows
I was like god damn it
that was lazy that was lazy Brian
I take that back it was lazy
no I said it was funny because it's a teenage white girl
yeah yeah but you just i just went completely for the racial thing it was lazy it was hacky uh you know
i can i i you know i can only blame myself well if you ever see him i'll apologize yeah and he
i'll just walk up to tim man it's like tim hey i know you heard the podcast but uh but like i'm saying
this to him while i broke into his house and tied up his family's like look i apologize
be funny at like the 50 s nl reunion okay yeah like the 50 anniversary of s andl you break in you
It's like, Tim, sorry with the burning cross.
And then walk away.
Yeah.
Anyway, yeah, okay.
Back to being crass.
So eventually Lindsay Lohan comes clean.
Yeah.
And she joins the Matlitz.
Okay.
Yeah.
Wait, so she comes clean to who?
To Tina Faye.
Yeah, yeah.
And she joins the Matlitz, okay?
Yeah.
And then this is a weird coincidence.
So the Matlitz tournament is the same night as the prom.
Huh.
Yeah.
Is that kind of like saying mathletes wouldn't get asked?
to the prompt.
Probably, yeah, yeah.
So they have the competition
and Lindsay Lohan takes a while
for her to turn her brain back on
because she's been dumb.
Sure.
Like, you know.
She does a few sniffs in the jacks
just to blow away the cobweights.
Like an example, okay.
So they have a girl,
it's her versus another girl
and the whole time she's thinking
about the girls, what the girls
is wearing.
Oh, right.
She's like, oh, I would not wear shoes
with that dress.
Right.
No, Lindsay, focus on the mats.
Think about the maths.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So she wins, obviously,
she wins the matty competition yeah yeah eventually and uh then they go back to prom and uh they go into
the prom and guess what yeah they they had the vote for the prom queen before all this shit happened
okay and she won she wins yeah okay so she gets a little crowned oh wait i do remember this bit
this bit gave me it yeah this bit was like ugh again no comedy in this this is the feelings
That's what I mean
like this is a perfect film
for what they intended
because me and you
would have written a funny scene
Yeah
Okay
It's like ha ha
I win
I don't take back
Edison
You're all a bunch of fuggly skanks
Yeah
I'm out
They actually realize
Like no this is for kids basically
Yeah
Yeah
So let's have a nice scene
At the end
Yeah sure
So she gets the crown
And she breaks it off
In the pieces
breaks it up into pieces
And she gives it
To the ugliest people there
Here you go
Yeah
This is for you not killing yourself.
Because if I were you, I would have killed myself.
So have a piece of a shitty piece of plastic.
This is for you sticking out for another year.
Let's be honest, probably won't last another year.
So, you know, enjoy that little piece of crown.
You don't deserve the full crown because, again, you are hideous.
Try not to eat it, you fucking pig.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
But enjoy that little piece of crown.
And for some reason, everyone likes her then.
Yeah, yeah.
for like, I think that's condescending
to give someone like a broken piece of crown
Yeah, for being ugly and weird.
Look, we all know I actually did win this
because I'm pretty and got big tits.
Yeah.
But I'm going to give you a broken piece of crown.
Yeah, it is very like, ugh.
It was just like tacked on.
And you're right, condescending is a very good way to describe it.
So then everyone loves each other and they'll start dancing.
Now here's an interesting thing, okay?
And then what?
Dylan Klebold and Eric Harris come in
and shut up, everyone.
Skinny Bapa, bra, but, but, but.
No.
That's how, if I had written the movie,
that's how it would have ended.
Yeah, and that's what I mean.
Like, wouldn't have been successful.
Now, just saying,
Hey, you don't know that.
You would have gone for more of, like,
an election-style movie.
I love election.
Yeah, yeah.
That's great movie.
That's where me and you would have gone
for dark comedy and a dark ending.
Yeah.
Where Tina Faye went for the happy ending.
Yeah.
And that's why she is 30 Rock.
And, uh, we're recording a podcast in my bedroom.
Yeah, yeah.
So, you know.
Take back all those debt threats
Never
Never
Well you know what comes after 30 Rock
Great news
Heard of it
No you haven't
Because it's shite
What about Kimmy Schmidt
Did she do that?
Yep
No
Never seen it
Well
Was she in it
I think she has a small part in it
Okay
Look Tina Faye is great
Obviously
She's very good
Yeah
And like yeah
And like yeah
Look obviously
Obviously after this
Her movie career
Didn't like succeed
No
She has a lot of failures
Baby Mama
She had baby mama, whiskey tango, fox straw.
Oh, that was awful.
And wine country.
I'd never even heard of that one.
That's the Tina Faye trilogy.
Okay.
Of her star, her and Amy Poehler.
Just being the wacky girls who love white wine.
I'm kind of sad because I was actually excited for a whiskey tango fox straw.
You know, it's interesting.
I went to the Dublin International Film Festival one year.
And there was like, the whole thing was like,
there's going to be a screening of a, like, you know, movie that's going to
coming out but it hasn't come out for general release yet but it was like a secret screen and we
didn't know what it was right and then who comes on the screen tina fay and margar robbie and i was like
oh god no please because i had i had seen the trailer as like no i think i was hoping slash expecting
something else and i can't remember what it was like your imagination would go wild yeah yeah yeah
or maybe tarantino shot a new film yeah or even like paul thomas andersson has shot a secret
film.
Exactly, yeah.
You know, I was kind of like,
oh, you know,
could be this,
could be that.
And then,
and that was not good.
That was not a good movie.
You in the cinema with,
uh,
orange hair.
Just like,
just like black camouflage head to do.
And you're just waiting.
It's like,
if this,
if this is a woman.
If I see one more bloody woman on that screen.
If Robert Carlock is involved in this film in any way.
If this movie passes the back.
gel test. I'm going to shoot
some motherfuckers. People going
to die tonight. Everybody's
getting clipped. Imagine you go
on the guilty feminist.
And guilty feminist is all kind of like
the point of it is like
you're feminist but like oh
sometimes you like a manly man or something like that.
Yeah sure, yeah. Or Brian
Callan's theory. Did you hear what he said?
Oh, women like to be raped.
Yeah, women have a biological desire
to be raped. That would be funny if like
he goes on a guilty feminist
and he's like
this is what my take
and just crickets
Any fans of the Goldbergs here?
I can get you
Jeff Garland's autograph
he's not returned to my calls
at the minute
The guilty feminist
It's all kind of like
tongue and cheek
tongue in cheek
little like
oh you know
when I hear
that Keanu Reeves
has an age appropriate
girlfriend
I get wet
It's like that kind of stuff
but you're like
yeah I know
you mean, when I saw
Tina Faye, I killed
hundreds of people.
Now, look, when
Tina Faye and Margot Robbie came on the screen,
I knew what the movie was because I'd seen the trailer
and I knew it was going to be bad.
I really liked Tina Faye, and I really like
Robert Robbie. They're both great actors.
Especially when I was young, I wanted to be her.
Yeah, well, you succeeded.
I was like, I hope I get knifed.
She got knifed? Yeah, yeah.
When she was younger, she got knifed.
You got stabbed. Yeah, let me look that up.
Man, get stabbed up. Tina Faye, you
getting caught blood.
I think she got mugged
or something like that.
She got stabbed.
Yeah.
Let me look up
that real quick.
Awesome.
While I'm looking that up,
you just tell me what did,
I never saw Whiskey Tango Foxtrot.
It's like she's basically a reporter
who's over in Iraq or Afghanistan.
It's like around 2003 or whatever.
And she breaks up with her boyfriend.
So then it's just like her and Margot Robbie
like drinking and partying with like soldiers
and she's getting off with them and all.
Like, you know,
obviously there's so.
some kind of like contrived, tacked-on commentary on the Iraq war and blah, blah, blah.
It just didn't work.
It was a bad fella.
I didn't like it.
I assume it wasn't pro-Iraq war.
No, no.
I assume it wasn't like her going like, let's go to Abu Ghraib.
When I go to Abu Ghraib and see all the age-appropriate women, I get wet.
Presko and Abu Grave.
Okay, here's the thing now.
So, Tina Faye.
Yeah.
While she was in kindergarten
Okay
Was slashed in the face by a stranger
In an alley behind the house
What the fuck?
Yeah
So that's how she has that scar
Yeah yeah yeah
Oh my shit
That's fucked up
Kindergarten
So what age is that
That's like four, five
Yeah so imagine like
That's messed up
Imagine seeing a five year old
Going like
Time to get the knife
I know today was gonna be a good day
Or it's you from the future
Tell Alec Baldwin
I said hello
Wheeh! Wheeh! Whizky
Tango Foxtrot
Knife in the face
You get it, it stands for WTF.
Yeah, I get it, yeah, yeah, just in case it's
It's very good.
Imagine that was the thing that clicked
and you're like, I love it.
Genius!
I're at an hour here now.
Okay, let's just finish off the film, okay?
So we have like a
what they did after, okay?
All right.
So Regina George,
yeah.
Get in the sport.
Okay.
Lacrosse.
Because she's got the anger.
Get her aggression out.
Yeah, in a healthy way.
Right.
And because she's with people
that won't take her shit,
okay,
she's like,
oh, you're a skank,
just hit on the shoulder.
I'm like, I shut up.
And she's like,
ah.
That's what she needs.
Yeah, yeah.
So that's the message of the movie.
You know,
annoying women need physical violence,
is what we're saying here.
No.
If a woman gives you shit,
you got to smack that bitch.
up. That's what Tina Faye is saying.
She was like, that knife to the face
was the best thing that ever happened to me.
That's how I got S&L. Well, that's what
you took from the film. Again, an artist
can't control what the public take.
No, like, in a friendly way.
Yeah, I get you. They just don't take her shit. Of course, of course.
Amanda Seafried.
Becomes a weather girl.
Weather girl, yeah. And she's like holding
her tits. Grabbing her titty. Yeah.
The other girl.
Lacey Shabair.
Becomes friends with the Asians.
The cool Asians?
Yeah, yeah, the cool Asian. And then she learns how
speak Asian.
That's what they tell her it's called.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, yeah. We're going to teach you how to speak
Asian. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just general Asian.
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Not like
Korean or Chinese or Japanese. Yeah, Mandarin.
Yeah, French.
Anyway, just general Asian. And then Lindsay Lohan's
what? Lindsay Lohan's just happy we're friends.
Right, okay. Yeah. And there's a little bit in it where like
she sees the new plastics. Oh. So just new girls.
like younger girls who are like the new plastic okay
and she sees them she's like hmm
I don't even care about them
yeah and then she imagines them getting hit by a bus
nice and she goes like but then we see
the scene again with them not being hit by the bus
and she's like just kidding and then the film ends
right okay and so overall
what would you you you're you like to film
I give a 10 out of 10 really
because it didn't go the way we wanted to go
because it's for kids
it didn't end like
because we would have put in like a dark ending
even though with the like the cheesy
prom bit with the crowd
did you not like that
okay it's like a Pixar film
I'm not gonna be like wait where's the
but you know what like here's the thing about that movie
like it was a product of its time
and I'm sure was applicable to the time
but the landscape of high school
and being a teenager now in the post social media
area is so more convoluted and fucked up and horrific that I fill them out like mean
it you know it is as it's as quaint as something like the breakfast club you know what I mean
I'd say even more I'd say uh because they're using landlines in it yeah exactly yeah I think
even just like the idea of like the clicks the jocks the nerds like there's this you know
it's uh there's it people don't like being defy and
and those very you don't like you know put labels on people like that and nowadays in american
school it's just like the proud boys yeah yeah or even like you know there's the whole like
the jock who's also a mathlet and writes poetry and yeah it's and also like all the jocks are
into like Naruto now yeah yeah yeah do you know what I mean there's this like such a like I don't
know what's the word integration I guess you know it's like genre is meaningless you know
you can't really define anything anymore.
I'd say you show a 12-year-old girl this film and you'd be like, was this made in the 50?
Yeah, exactly.
Hey, what's the big idea?
See?
Yeah, you know, plastic bitch.
Hey, what?
Yeah, yeah.
So, um, just to finish the film, finished what my thoughts on it.
Yeah.
I think I like it a lot.
Like, let's, I'll say this, okay.
I love the film election.
Yes.
And I love the ending of election.
Yes.
The ending of election is one of my favorite endings ever.
Yeah.
And I think about a lot.
Yeah.
You can't do that.
with mean girls and have it turn to a fucking
musical. That's true. You know what I mean? You have
to have the cheese. I understand that and obviously
there will be studio
pressure. This was Tina Fey's first film
so I'm sure she didn't get as
much creative or artistic control
as she would have liked. I totally understand
that and I do get that this is
for the most part a very good film.
I think 10 out of 10 is a bit much.
I'd give 11. Okay, fair
enough. Look, I agree to disagree.
I think there's definitely some very good elements
in it, very good jokes, great performance.
performances, but just the cheesiness. I get it. It's necessary, but I just, that turns me off.
I have one problem with the film. Go for it. One problem. Yeah. So at the end of the film during the prom
sequence, right. Janice, the lesbian, okay? Has no one to dance with. Oh, and she dances with
Damien. She's dancing with the gay guy. They kiss each other. They're like, ugh. But then they go,
no, no, no, no, no. But after that, the gay guy goes off. Right. The Indian dude shows up and starts
dancing with Janice. Right.
The hip-hop guy. Yeah, yeah.
Now, it wouldn't have been better if she just
meets a random girl and smiles at her.
Now, you probably couldn't have done a full-on
fingering scene. Okay.
Or even a kiss because...
Director's cut. Because of studio pressure. But just a little
scene of like she meets a girl and she's like, hi.
And is it like she's definitely a lesbian
or was it just that Regina George
called her a lesbian? Well, you know what?
In my heart, she's a lesbian and if she isn't,
I'm joining you
with the orange hair.
we're going to go to Tina Faye's house.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Because we're going to give her a matching scar on the other side of her face.
The thing is like, I'm, I want to kill her because the mean girls wasn't gay enough.
Yeah.
So anyway, that's what I'll have to say about mean girls.
So that was mean girls.
I think it's perfect tone.
Okay.
I like to love.
I'm not like shitting on it.
I think it is pretty, pretty good, decent, a lot of good elements in it.
I don't think it's the masterpiece
Some people try and tell me it is
But again, that's my opinion, whatever
And again, I think
The winner of this film
Overall is Tina Fey
Yeah, sure
After this, she got 30 Rock
She got huge
Compared to Lindsay Lohan
We all went downhill
Where is Lindsay now actually?
She's in like a beach house somewhere
She had like a film
She's like a maid for a bunch of TikTok kids
They're all like dancing in the background
And she's sweeping up their shit
Yeah, I think she had like she runs like
failed nightclubs
and she probably,
I'm not being funny here,
she probably does
you know
sleep with people for money.
Okay.
But she,
like you wouldn't say to
but like it's probably a case of like
there'd be like some rich guy
some Saudi Arabian guys
like hey come over here.
I've heard that's a very common thing.
Like one of the girls
from the pussycat dolls
came out and said yeah basically
we were treated like prostitutes
like Saudi princes
would have us flown over
on private jets
and we'd be pressure.
by, like, wreck her companies to, like, sleep with them and stuff.
Well, I think Lindsay Lohan this stage, she doesn't get to Saudi princes anymore.
She gets, like, uh...
Me and you, or like a syndicate.
A bunch of lads go in on it and they all just take turns on her.
Uh, it could be you.
Yeah.
You got to be in it too, when it.
It is sad...
It is sad, like, even recently, Lindsay Lohan was like,
I think we should make a second one.
And everyone else is like, no.
Yeah, where she plays the janitor.
you know what you could you could do a fun little thing where like it's the next generation
yeah and she plays like a teacher no she'd have to play like a homeless woman
covered in shit yeah but she plays the same character and it's like don't end up like me
don't break the crown right don't be nice to people oh yeah okay all right don't help lesbians
So yeah, that's it. Any final thoughts?
No, no final thought. Well, again, I never have watched it.
So it is kind of unfair of me to give, like, a critique of the film when I never have actually sat down to watch it fully.
But I have seen most of it.
And as I said, some very good stuff.
But the cheesy stuff just, ugh.
I'm sorry.
I just can't.
And that's me.
I'm the problem in that scenario.
I'm the part of the equation that doesn't work is me.
No, no, no.
Never apologize.
No, I'm not even apologizing.
It's just like, I get that I'm a cynical, bitter, twisted old cunt.
He's going to die alone.
I get all that.
Believe me, I'm aware.
And mean girls isn't going to change that for me, Brian.
So I'm sorry, but I can't jump on the 10 out of 10 bandwagon with you.
But hey, some good stuff.
Love Tina Fey.
Great performances.
You know, they're all doing a lot better than I am.
Some of them.
Some of them.
Some of them are like...
It's going to be me and Lacey Chabair in a Hallmark movie.
Some of them were like in the alley somewhere being like,
I wish I was James Cadden.
boy does that guy know
I believe
yeah yeah
all right
yeah I think that's about as much
what are we out here
yeah we're well
over an hour
okay I might cut to start
okay this is great
this is fun
I enjoyed this time
thanks for listening everybody
yeah
hope you enjoyed a film
it might have got a little bit
obviously if you never
watch mean girls
you're pretty out of the loop
yeah
but you know what
I'm just kind of thinking
like the type of people
who love mean
are not gonna like this episode
you know what I mean
oh yeah
like fans of the moon
movie are going to hear this, you know,
I'd be surprised if they make it all the way through.
You know what? This is a bad idea.
Let's just delete this whole thing.
I'm actually kind of
I'm excited now to see who's going to listen
to this on the reaction. I do hope
we get some people who are like, oh, I might give
this podcast this, and I love mean girls.
Oh, no.
Then suddenly we're in the L.A. times.
Oh, can't wait. All right. Thanks for
listening, guys.