Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - Bonus: The Mother Daze with Sarah Wright Olsen & Teresa Palmer: Introducing Broad Daze! With Olivia Allen (and Rachel Bilson in spirit)

Episode Date: April 9, 2026

Enjoy this episode of Olivia on The Mother Daze with Sarah Wright Olsen & Teresa PalmerThis week we’re joined by our darling friend Olivia Allen; actress, producer, writer, and one half of the bestie duo behind The Broad Ideas pod with Rachel Bilson. This is a come-back-to-yourself kind of episode.We’re talking full body yeses vs obligation energy, and learning how to trust what actually feels aligned.We dive into returning to your spiritual practices in seasons of chaos, plus human design, the teachings of Esther Hicks, signs from the universe, and intuition vs fear.We also touch on motherhood; having our hearts outside our bodies, how to reconcile that, and how to navigate it when intrusive thoughts start to creep in.There are also some strange (and slightly morbid) signs from the universe we attempt to unpack… plus a very cheeky journal throwback involving a certain list that has us questioning some teenage choices.Plus… we tease something we’re so excited about!! a new long-term partnership with Rachel and Olivia. Welcome to the first of many Broad Daze episodes.This episode is proudly sponsored by Tumble, Goldfish Swim School and OSEA!⁠http://tumbleliving.com/MOTHERDAZE⁠⁠https://goldfishswimschool.com/⁠ and use promo code FREE to enroll!⁠https://oseamalibu.com/⁠ and use code MOTHERDAZEPODSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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And this is our brand new broad day. Woo-hoo. So we are... We're combining with broad ideas and the Mother Days. Rachel Bielsen, Olivia Allen, Teresa, Sarah, all of us together, plus our babies and all of our baggage. And we're coming together to... talk about things in life that we just really love that's happening. It's the year of the

course. Yes, we're all into spirituality. Yes, we are. We're all moms and Rachel, Rachel is knee deep in some cat litter somewhere so she can't join us today. She can't be here today. That's okay. She'll be here next time. We're going to talk about, you know, we're going to use this time to talk about all the things that are happening in life. Plus, we'll talk about books that we love, things that we love watching, things that we're listening to, all the things. And this is our first one. So we're going to kick it off today. And Olivia, we're so happy you're here. We love you so much. We love you. Love you. It's really amazing how you guys do all that you do and have babies and keep having babies. It's really incredible. It just has to all fit. But you know what? I think the crazy thing is

I don't think people realize this many, like, you know, we do drop balls. Like that happens, right? So, you know, there's sometimes when I wake up and I'm like, oh, my God, I was supposed to do this thing like two weeks ago and I didn't do it, you know? And I feel like I have my lists and I, you know, all the things where I'm like, I feel like I'm organized and then balls are dropped. And I think the pivot that I've had with that is that I just try to give myself a little bit of grace because, you know, when you're running around with babies, even when you're not, when you're a

parent, when you have a lot going on, like, whatever it is, it's kind of, it's a lot to try to like, life is life in. This is the year of the horse. It will do. Yes. You're the horse, baby. How's your horse here going, Olivia? Tell us everything. Tell us about your horse here. You know, it's interesting because I was explaining it this morning is I've kind of felt lately like I'm a kite and I'm trying to get myself back in my body and like everything's moving so fast and around me and I'm just kind of up in the ethers and like my focus since this year has started has been to ground and to really come back to like my spiritual practices and and my internal life and doing all of that in a way and upping it in a way I haven't done in a really long time.

Wow. Right. And so I had felt a little bit like there's been a lot of external chaos that hasn't felt great. And, you know, just today I felt a massive shift as far as like, and you can't really explain it. You're like, was that an external shift or was it all the internal work? now reflecting in the external.

I hear that. I think that goes like week to week. You kind of notice some things. You're just like, well, here's another week where everything feels chaotic and crazy. And then all of a sudden something shifts and you look back and you reflect and you're like, why is it different now? You know? But it's interesting because I was just thinking this yesterday is that I went to my first yoga class in a very long time

where I didn't have a baby in my body or on my body. Wow. And I got home and I was like doing something in the kitchen. And I, for the first time in a long time, I noticed my feet. They felt really grounded into the floor. And I felt held in a different way. They didn't hurt. They didn't feel like I was standing on the edges of my feet.

Sometimes when I get anxious, I stand on the outside of my feet. And I felt them very strongly. I thought, oh, wow, that's so interesting. It's been a long time since I, like, took that, you know, 50-minute class to, like, really ground myself into the, to the earth. And now I'm feeling my feet. And what does that mean? Like, am I, did I just put myself back in my body? Did I pull myself out of fight or flight? Super interesting. Yeah. That's exactly it. That's exactly it. It's exactly what you were saying about feeling your feet. And I feel like this year, and I keep hearing the year of the I would love to know, like, what that means to you guys. What does that mean to you?

It means so much. I feel like as you were talking and you were saying, you know, it's the year for me to like go back to my spirituality. This has been the main thing for Sarah and I. It has been talking about, returning back to that place of spiritual curiosity, leaning into all the science from the universe, everything that's showing up every day. Every day I find myself thanking the universe for something like, oh, I saw that sign. Thank you so much. I noticed it. And the more I'm saying these things out loud, the more the signs are coming to me.

And this morning I had a really powerful conversation with the kids about you get to choose your inner world. They were sitting at the tape my boys. And I was like, you choose your inner world. What does your healthy inner world look like? And I was like, do you wake up and do you think, oh, wow, today I'm going to skateboard camp and I'm going to try that pop shove it. And I'm going to do it. And so we went through in, like today they've got skateboard camp. So we went through about instead of holding on to the future tripping or getting

nervous about something because one of my kids at nighttime, he says that he starts to be like, oh, well, I missed dad, because Mark's away, I miss dad, or what if it takes me too long to get to sleep? And I was talking to him about reframing and our inner world is up to us, right? Yes. Because that's what carries us day in, day out, in our interactions with people. Is it, wow, that was like really hard and what are the lessons I learned from that? Or this was so hard, I'm totally taken out. What if this happens again?

I'm panicked. I'm freaking out. We get to make those choices day and day out. So that's why I had this conversation with the kids this morning. And I'm in that headspace. I am doing a lot of looking at my life, observing my relationships, my dynamics, taking stock of all the manifestations that have come true. And calling in all the abundance and expansion this year.

And a lot of it is surrounding spirituality, getting our witchiness on Sarah and I get so excited talking about this stuff. It is our favorite thing to talk about. Yeah. And we're going to fold it into the podcast more this year. There's just going to be more exploration of that part of our lives. Yeah. And that's part of it too. Like Rachel and I have done like a real deep dive of a lot of different things that are on our plate. And one of the things for me this year is expansion and only into things that feel right. period hard. Yes.

And you two ladies were on that for us. You are just, we're just such like a full body yes to working with you guys and creating with you guys and really expanding both what we're doing with broad ideas and what you guys are doing with Mother Days and like, explain what does that look like to grow that community together. Yeah. And I also have another question.

you guys. This is now becoming my interview to you. The interesting thing I find in the two of you is that you guys are both strong yeses. Whenever we bring something forward, whenever we talk about something, I've never met a no with you guys. And I know that can't be the way you conduct your life, period, because in order to have so many yeses, you have to have some nose. And I'm just curious, like, where are your nose? Because I'd never seen them. We are yes and.

We are yes and. But we're only yes and for things. And we've talked about this, you know, a few years ago in the pod. And, but like, we're only yes and for what does feel aligned. And that's what's so exciting is that when we get on the pod with you, guys, when we did our live event, when I aligned myself or Teresa aligns herself with a brand, it has to be a full body, yes. Taz and I were just talking about this because I had a work thing that I was doing.

And there were so many elements of it that was like a really feeling sticky for me. And it got uncomfortable and I don't like to be in this uncomfortable place. So, you know, the old me would have been like punting it a lot, putting it off. the old me, this is like many years ago, would have been like, oh, but I feel guilty or feel bad or I have to do this. Don't want to disappoint. Don't want to disappoint. You know, there's like an old version that was that.

But then after working on oneself and noticing things and other people that you really admire, like Teresa, I noticed her really being like so good at, this is my boundary. This is blah, blah, blah. And I was always like, gosh, I love that. I need to like adopt more of that. And so for me, it was like, yeah, no, this isn't aligned with my authentic self or my truth or, you know, and if it's not this way where it fully aligns with me, then I'm not doing it. The end. Like that's it. And it felt so good. And I was like, why has that not been so easy for me? I think because I was a people pleaser.

I am too. I am too. Curse of the people pleaser. My no comes in time spent. So projects that are that full body yes spark joy in the words of Marie Kondo, I get really excited about. I also am having a year where I have manifested the job of my dreams, the job I have been waiting for my entire career. Yeah. But it also, it lends itself to, I get to say more yeses.

Because I'm not striving to get the big acting gig. Yeah. I've got that. And I have time. Because it's an ensemble, I have time. So I know that, all right, that box has been ticked. Amazing. I now have time to explore other opportunities.

So Sarah and I are shifting the identity of like one of the brands that we started together. And yesterday I was like, I have space. I have time to put some energy into this. We're expanding with you girls. I have the time to think about what that might look like. However, I know old self or some old habits would be fill in every minute of every day with stuff. I've got five kids.

I've got, I'm doing so much in my life. I want to be spending that precious. time, the precious leftover time that I have, feeling lit up by those conversations, those relationships, those partnerships, that's what I'm seeking out in life because the reality is it could all end tomorrow. So why waste our time in areas that aren't serving us and aren't for the greater collective good? So that's kind of where I'm at right now. Beautiful. I love that. I mean, what about you in terms of that? Like, you know, what about you in terms of why do you say yes to certain things or no to certain things? I mean, I drove all the way from

Santa Barbara to L.A. to go to a dinner for the great. But the reason I did that is because I love, first of all, I love that they brought us all together in this way that we found each other. And now we're creating so much together and like we're only going to do more that they did that right and so we had this such an awesome time but also um i love them as a brand i love the great i love emily amirate i think they're also right and i knew that going there meant that i was going to see you and nicky and rachel and rumor and all these women emily merritt that i loved and so to me that was a full body yes it's hard it made it hard it wasn't like it was an easy choice. It was like, okay, now I know I'm going to drive two hours and I'm going to

go to this dinner and I'm going to drive two hours home. But I was like, it's worth it because this is, this is when I spend time doing something. Yeah, and I'm so glad you did because it was so much fun. And I'm the same with, with them, that anything having to do with them is a yes. Yeah. But it's not, it's not just them. It's also who they pull in, who they have surround. them who's going to be there. It's so intentional and it's it's very filling. I think I've talked to you guys about we had an author on of a book called How to Break Up with Your Friends and she said to do this like kind of tossed where if you see someone calling what does it make your body feel? Yeah. And really that that is giving you a signal.

of how you really feel like it could be work related friendship related any of that but like when they called do you feel light do you feel like oh my god i want to say hi or do you feel like dreamed do you feel heavy like how do you feel and really looking at everything like that for me i think i've said a lot more yeses than i've needed to for a long time and i think lately i've been really getting more comfortable in having a voice of, you know. Yeah. And I don't know if you guys have at all gotten into the human design. Have you guys done any deep d-dives in that?

Wait, you mean like did the app? Like, did you download the app or what are you telling me? One of my friends does charts and then she'll do your reading. And she's amazing. Is this a friend that we should have on the podcast? Did we talk about her coming on? Casey Flynn, you should totally. You should totally have her on.

She lives in Hawaii. She's, we should do that. I really want to have someone talking about human design. I want to understand. And also I love the Myers-Briggs as well. It's another one that I go by. What's your Myers-Briggs? I don't remember.

I need to look at that again. Yeah. I don't remember. But the human design was interesting, especially in partnership. Yeah. Because Rachel and my husband are both the same. They're both verbose. and they're both manifesting generators.

And I'm a projector. And so when she was explaining how to communicate and how to find your yes and how to find your no, I found it really fascinating. Because for Rachel, and this is the way we naturally communicate and we didn't know we were going off our human designs. But with Rachel, I will explain something and then she'll either be a yes or a no.

That's it. It's either, she's either, she's like gut. She's either yes or no. But for me as a projector, I'm supposed to, she will say, like, tell me how you feel about that. Like, what are your thoughts? How do you feel? And that's how we find my yes and no is through expression.

But hers is just yes, no. I think I'm expression. Because I, in our four way dynamic, Rachel and I are so, we have so many similarities. and you two have so many similarities. But I actually think I'm a bit more like that where I have to talk it out. I need to talk it out, to figure it out. It could be a yes, it could be a no.

It's all right, now it's a no. You know? Yeah. Do you know what you're... I think I am a... I know I'm a manifest of something from what I remember. Oh, well, your manifest your generator, like Rachel, maybe. Is that the only manifesting one?

I think it's manifester, manifesting generator, projector, reflector, and maybe there's one more. I am no expert. So I could have been a manifester generator or just the manifester. But I remember being like, oh, yeah, that tracks when I did it. I was like big in my manifesting stage at the time. I was like, oh, yeah, that makes sense. Obviously, a manifest.

I mean, obviously, it all makes sense. It's exactly me. Sarah, do you know what you are? I'm a worker bee, I think, but I'm trying to remember what it was. It's because my, I wonder if the app I bought got bought out. Can I just tell you one very quick funny story that just happened this morning? Please tell us. So I'm talking about manifesting and like the universe.

And I was saying, a bo-dy, the universe is always working with you, for you, through you. So we were talking about that this morning. And then as I was talking to him, he turns and looks on the grass and this particular bird is on the grass. And he was like, it's his sign is this particular bird. And he was like, oh my gosh, Mom, the universe just robbed this to me right in the middle of this conversation. Like, that's my sign. And then he was just staring at it. And I could see him like really taking that in.

He was like, oh, this stuff feels so good. I was like, I know. Anyway, so then I'm like, all right, guys, we're jumping out the door. got to get the girls to camp, open the door, and the same type of bird is dead. No. Right by our feet. And then I see Bodie look at it and go, oh now. And I'm like, oh, well, and he was like, oh, well, the other one I saw was alive.

I was like, exactly, yes, the other one you saw was alive. This one's probably sick or something. and maybe it's just old patterns and negative thoughts, just are dying off now, right? And then he was like, do you think it ran into the window and died, like flew into the window? And I was like, yeah, it probably did. Like, oh, it's so sad.

And then the girls were crying. And it was pissing down with rain. So it's extra sad. It's like this dead little bird body, like pit all wet, like saturated. And then the girls were like, we name you, Rosie, Rosie chirped. chirp and I was like oh rosy chirp chirp and then we get in the car and the girls like we feel really sad about the bird I was like I know but you know what why don't we show it love in its life like when we come back let's do a little burial and they're like we could do a funeral for rosy chirp chirp chirp and I was

like that sounds amazing I love it okay girls that's what we'll do I'll pick you up we'll come back and we'll have the funeral for rosy chirp chirp church so as I drop them off and I drive back I pull into my carport and I look up and there's this crow staring at me with Rosie Chirp Chirp's body in its mouth, a full massacal like stabbing at it, feathers going everywhere, guts like on the side of the fence. And I was like, Rosie Chirp Chirp, no. And it stares at me. And this bird was big. Rosie Churp Churp was a big bird.

It wasn't a small bird. The crow like skewers it with its beak. So the body's sitting on its beak and then it flies off with the body on set, like on its beak, flies away. And I was like, oh my God. Oh, my God. That was the most brutal thing I've ever seen in nature. Like, what the hell did I just see?

There's feathers everywhere. I walk around to see and Rosie Churp Chirp's head is severed on the ground just left below the fence. And I was like, cool, that there's, what? that universe? No, what is that? What was that? That was terrible. It was so weird.

And then I'm like, I have to tell the girls who are expecting to have a burial for Rosie Chow-Jap, that there's just a head left. There is only a head left. Oh, my God. What was that brutality? What was that? Can you break that down for me, Olivia? What did I just witness?

You know what the interesting part about that story is? So on the way to the gym, so every morning I listen. the Esther Hicks. You know, Esther Hicks? Love. How I start my day every day. It's just like I try and brainwash myself first thing in the morning, you know? Yeah.

And as I was driving, this man, I listened to like her podcast where they share her teachings. And this man shared about the fact that he had a sign. He asked for a sign with this certain kind of bird. So that's why it's so weird that you're saying that today. And he said, I asked for this bird. And he said, and this bird came and I went, holy crap, that can't be real. That can't be for me. Like I just asked for that.

And here it is. Could it be? Give me another sign universe. And so then the bird poops all over his car, just right on the windshield. And she goes, and so she goes, and so you recognized it was for you, right? And he goes, yeah. He goes, if it wasn't that the bird would have crooked. Basically saying that it is providing you this information so strong that that that bird would have croaked for you to get it.

Wow. Yeah. And so then I'm listening to this going, oh wow the bird croaked for you yeah why what in it did you guys need to see oh my god that bird was like i'll do it i'll take my life for you to get this oh what is it that is so funny because the immediate response was oh god oh no like even me i was like shit why's the bird dead now why yeah yeah Or is it dead now? But maybe it's the death of the old self.

The death of the old self, we're like expansion. We're leaving old habits and patterns behind. Then the brutality of the crow, it looked right into my eyes as it skewed this like dead body of this bird. It looked right at me. And I was like, this is the naliest shit I've ever seen in nature, like right in front of me. Yeah.

I'll take you up the significance of a crow. No. haven't because it just happened before I go on the podcast like right now okay I would be curious right now right now as we're having this conversation about signs Rachel just texted us a red string that she saw in her carpet oh my god I saw one this morning in mine that's crazy crazy is that guys I saw one this morning in mine and I clocked it and I was like red string I haven't seen that in a while maybe it's because we were all coming together it is and I told the story of our red string connection. I started this, it's not an acting class per se, but it's this thing,

it's an acting workshop called ritual. And he has you kind of noting all the signs and serendipities. And we got in this little thing and we were talking about like what were things that are unexplained. And I brought up the red string connection. And there's Rachel texting it. I love our connection. Me too. Even though I can't be on the podcast right now, I'm with you guys. Oh my God. She is.

She is feeling. That's crazy. I feel like I need to run downstairs and take a photo of mine, which I saw. I thought you're going to say the dead bird. I'm also going to do that. I was like, I want to take a picture of the dead bird. I'm going to show you the head. Yeah.

It's pretty full. Can I look it up really quick? Yeah, look up the significance. That's a really great idea. Pro significant. I'm going to. I'm going to ask my assistant, Jess. She's going to be like, what the fuck?

Why? I'm like, do you mind actually going outside and taking a picture of Rosie Chirp Chub's head and the massacre? Oh, abundance, guys, abundance. It's 1111. Abundance, 1111. So Crow symbolizes the frequently centers on transformation, intelligence and mystery, often acting as a bridge. between life and death.

Oh, my God. The physical and spiritual realms. While sometimes viewed as omens of death, they accurately represent change, rebirth, and wisdom. Crow's symbolizes messengers, tricksters, and keepers of secrets. Oh, that makes so much sense. Interesting. To what I've been dealing with, yeah.

That's what I'll say. Yeah. But does that apply to Bodie? Or does that apply to the boys? Well, they didn't see that particular. They didn't see the crow. So I'm wondering if the crow was for me. So that's for you.

I think the crow is for me. And I know what that's about. So then the crow is for you. But it's so interesting. That's so interesting, though, that like it was like the crow is making eye contact with you. I mean, sometimes that stuff is so intense. So, yeah, so intense that you're just like, but also that sounds very, you're the horse. Like, let me make this sign very clear to you. Like, it's brutal. But immediately my brain goes to like,

I'm scared. What is that mean? Is my child okay? But I think that's my like, my mother, my like, this is what Christina was telling me is I have this mother wound where everything always goes back to me worrying about the safety of my kids, you know, like, I don't know. Is that always what happens with moms or is that me specifically? It's probably because your mom lost a child. Right. So like I'm always stemmed from. Yes. But and I think I'm just used to it now, but it's interesting. Like I, you know, my son's like going to bike to school and immediately I'm like, I have to say I love you one more time before he goes. Like, you know, or like, and then I'm like, do you have your watch on you and like, okay, then I think about all the things that could

happen on the way and then I always look for his bike. once I get to school, like, did his bike make it? Okay, his bike is there? Like, is that the chaos of a mother's brain in the words of Jesse Buckley? Is that the chaos of a mother's brain in general, or is that the chaos of my brain? I'm 100% with you. Okay. Okay. 100% with you. So even taking the kids to school every single day when I say, I love you, if they're not looking me in the eyes, I will make, look me in the eyeballs, I love you. Like there's

there is something wildly unsafe it feels about having your heart outside of your body. Yeah, it's true. You know, and even my son did something the other day

and I was nervous for him and I wasn't in the room but I was like, I felt my whole body stop and try to get my ears into the other room so that I could, like, there's, it's, it's like literally your heart outside of your body. And so how do you, I don't understand casual moms. I don't know how to do that. Like, I feel like I try my best not to live in fear on a daily basis, but it's hard. It's hard, yeah. I mean, I think there's like more of, do they call it like type B mom or type A mom? I don't know. Like there's different types of parenting. But I do think there are people that don't stress about it as much as other people do.

It's my greatest fear like everyone else. My greatest fear. But I would say I don't have daily intrusive thoughts about it. Yeah. Like I don't. I don't. I mean, I'll have like a. hint of it like yesterday my assistant jess i had the i had one day where i just had one child it was insane i was like yeah what do i sarah that's why i wrote you this whole long thing about like and i was like oh my god i can get work done this is insane like i don't know what this life is like just to have the baby like what yeah um and so then i got all this work done and anyway but i did have the thought of like, they are driving over that bridge. How long has that bridge been standing? Yeah. Is it this the construction quite safe? I'm assuming it is. I mean, thousands of cars go over that bridge every day. But still, imagine if like my assistant Jess is

driving my other four kids like over the bridge to get to their little rock school and it all crumbles down. But so I will have like every now and then, I'll have little thoughts of that. But I would say not on a daily basis. It's not, it's certainly not intrusive thoughts. I don't feel like it's intrusive. I feel like it's just like a heightened awareness. Yeah, right. Of like, I need you to know how loved you are. Like, you know, like. Okay, so mine are intrusive because then I'll let like an entire, I'll let like a crazy scene play out.

Not on purpose, but it plays out in my brain. really quickly and I'll see the impact happen or the thing happen or whatever. And it's a full body like clench and shudder and into like, okay, no, you're safe. They're safe. Like, why are, why did we do that? Why did I do that? You know, like for me, it's more like that. And that's hard to do. It's really intense. It's hard to differentiate. With Sarah and I were talking about this on another podcast. Like, it's hard to differentiate between an intrusive thought or is this a magic bit of wisdom, like a premonition. Like that time, remember that you and Eric will leave. leaving the kids to go fly somewhere and you were like, I'm having this thought, I'm having

this feeling, I'm feeling nervous about this, da-da-da. And then you were like, is it, is it that I'm just having an intrusive thought or am I having a premonition? And it's hard to differentiate between the two things. Eric's also, this is kind of amazing and this is something to so, I would love to get Christina's, like I'd love for Eric to talk to Christina. Christina is this amazing spirit guide medium. She's like so awesome. And we've had her on the podcast and then she was a part of our women's circle as well.

But I would love for her to talk to Eric about what his thing is because he does the craziest thing where he'll be like, I'll be like, oh, we should look into, you know, booking the tickets for the such and such person's like thing that we have to go to that's at this time. And he'll sit there and he'll be like, yeah, I just don't feel like that's going to happen. And he's like, but yeah, you're right. We should look into it. I just don't, I don't know. I don't feel like it's happening. And I would, I'm like, what? Like, of course it's happening.

It's a huge thing. We get emails all the time about it like it's happening. We should really look into it. A couple weeks go by. And then he's like, did you see the email? Like they canceled the thing. And I'm like, that's crazy. Like, it's just he does something like that.

And for someone who says that he's like not that invested in this side of the woo-woo stuff, he is. I know I know. He like organically is. He organically. Yeah. Yeah. That's just, it's natural, it comes natural to him.

But he might label it something different. I know. It's like I used to label it prayers when I was younger. Like I'm saying, I'm praying to Jesus or I'm praying to God. But now that I look back, I'm like, I'm still doing. the same thing. I just have a different label for it now. Yeah. It's like I'm talking to the universe. I'm like putting my manifestations out there. And I was still doing that when I was a kid. I just like had I'd put it in a different box, which was quite interesting. I was going to ask you, Olivia, like for all the people

that are listening, like, because you're such a deeply, like, tuned in, you know, person, how, What do you do? What are your practices for like going deeper? Like if this is a year where we're going deeper into spirituality, like I love to learn what other people's practices are because then I'm like, oh, I want to try that out. Like how does that feel for me? And does that help me to go deeper into my spiritual practice? Yeah, that's a great question. I mean, one of the things like, and it piggybacks on what we're talking about of like the difference between premonition or intuition. right for me what my commitment to is to get as tuned into my intuition as possible and like I've had those things where they have been intrusive like where Jeff and I went on a trip together and

I was so obsessed with like who's going to take care of my kids if this plane goes down like to the point of like I could not relax and to me I'm like okay that's not a premonition that's obsession, which means I'm in my mind. And I think the clear differentiating factor is, I don't think a premonition is going to be obsessive. Yes. Right? I don't think it's going to be fear-based. I think if you're getting a premonition, that's going to be clarity.

That's going to be unknowing. That is going to be a clear hit. And one of the things I've said a million times is, intuition will never speak through fears of voice. Love this. I also understand that as a person who has like anxiety and worries about things like that. That actually makes sense to me because there have been times when it's a hard like, oh, yeah, no, we're not going to do that because, you know. And it felt clear.

It wasn't like a fear spiral. Like you at the sky park, Sarah. Like the skate park. She knew that a board was going to hit her. Yeah, she just got up and left. That's a knowing. The board's about to fly. Yeah.

I just, I actually just saw it happen where I was just like, oh, the board's going to fly up. It's going to hit me and the baby. I'm going to get up and move behind the bench. And then like a minute or two later, this guy crashed. This board flew up and hit exactly where I had been sitting with the baby. And so was that fear base or did it just feel clear? No. I fully just was like, and there was even a moment where it was like I hadn't moved yet.

And I was just kind of like, oh, I have. had this feeling, this knowing, and then it was almost like it came right back and played again in my brain. It wasn't scary. It was just like, that's going to hit you in a minute. Like, you have to get up. And so I just thought up. See, and that's exactly it. Yeah. Right. And so for me, I'm like, so my job is to, I've heard of this really cool tool that I've been using lately, which is you go, you write a list of anything that you're afraid of. And then you go back a week later and you cross it off because none of it happens. Yeah.

Never. And so it's a really cool way to train your subconscious to stop believing the lies and to stop believing the fears because there's no merit, there's no evidence. And then you're giving your subconscious concrete evidence that nothing you're thinking about comes true, right? And so that's so different than man. manifesting and thinking about are two totally different things, right? Yes.

I think that thing, your thoughts become things, can be scary for people. Yeah. Terrifying. Especially if you're thinking the worst things and you're like, ah, my thoughts are you guys? Crap, crap, crap. Right. So my therapist put it really well.

She's like, you're never going to manifest from the negative because it's not in alignment. You can only manifest that which is in. in alignment, right? And so when you're manifesting, you're manifesting from your truth, from your authentic self and through alignment. And so you can't do that through negative thinking. But you can block yourself. You definitely. And you can- Calling things in. Yes. That's right. And you can create this morning. You can create shitty. You can create shitty situations. That's manifesting. That's creating, making poor choices based on fear.

Yes. And so there's two differentiating factors on that. So like when you ask like what my practices are lately, like I have doubled down on I'm meditating at least 10 minutes a day. Oh, well done. Well done. Mandatory. That's great.

And then immediately moving into journaling and doing some ideal scenes of I ams, of I am in alignment. I am working in a job. I love the people around me. I am like doing all of that and then doing a gratitude list and trying to not do that when I'm feeling poorly and want something to feel better, but doing it as a discipline every day. I love that idea. Rather than being like intentional about today is a manifest day, doing them in little increments where it becomes a daily habit folding that in, that's very powerful. It's helping me to be like, also I'm doing this like visualization every day of like poker chips and just taking the whole stack and pushing it over to spirit.

It take all of it. It's all yours. And like trying to get out of the way and being like, okay, I give it all to you. Like all of it. Wow. I love that. And then trying to get quiet to listen to the intuitive hits of where to go next, who to call next, what to do next. That's the bowl.

I don't do it perfect, but I am showing up for it because I know that when I get in my head, it's not fun. I love that so much. Yeah. Same. I mean, I feel like now I have so many little nudges. That's really good. And just like doing the thing where you're writing the stuff down in the morning too or writing the things, you know, Taz, that's kind of like our thing where you write things

down before bed. Journal dump. Yeah. To like get it out of your body or out of your mind. I realized that I was naturally doing that as a child. I had these books that I would ride in for the full year. I still have them from where. when I was like 11 and I would write before bed all the time,

just constantly riding around around. And that was just like a habit that I created. I really enjoyed. And now it's really fun to go back and read and remember all the things I did when I was younger. But I would love to. I think we've lost some of that because we're so digital now. The actual like handwriting feelings and thoughts and about your day.

and like it's so easy to forget all these wonderful things that happen in our lives. I mean, I have the worst memory. And I'd love to fold that into my kids' lives as like an everyday, all right, sit down, guys and now like do some journaling and write about like what's going on in your life. I found that such a beautiful tool when I was younger. It's never even occurred to me. That's so interesting. It's like it's so weird that I do it.

And it's never occurred to me to, like, offer it to Elliott to do. Yeah. I think it's such a cool. Especially as they're getting a bit older. I feel like Esme and Forest age up. Like, you know, nine-class- I was going to say Oswald has started writing in a journal. I haven't looked at it, but I noticed that Winter saw Esme writing in a journal.

And now Winter grabs her little book and she draws. pictures at night. Oh, that's so cute. Which is really cute. And so, but I think that's a nice, healthy way of, like, getting out of your, you know, getting things out of your head or, like, putting your body into a calming place before bed, which, which, you know. And then also just, like, maybe not so much for boys, but definitely for girls, like,

at the 9, 10, 11, 12 years, like, I wish I would have thought about writing in a journal. I think I wrote Dear Diary and I have such a big crush on Jason and it was like, that's it. Like, why wasn't I thinking further than that? Guys, I couldn't. I couldn't. Let me tell you. I went back and read mine. It was so, so much of my stuff was about all that.

And Bode is like, Mom, can I read your journals? And I was like, um, probably not that one. No. I have a chart with symbols with like guys that I, like a symbol for patch, a symbol for finger, a singer, a symbol for like, a symbol for like, what's this past mean? I saw, I saw his weight. Pash is like a tongue kiss.

Then there's like a symbol for like a peck. Then yeah, I have a, this is my 15 year old journal. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh my God. Oh, yeah. I was a part of the fast crowd. Where is Rachel when you need her?

I know. Yeah, exactly. I know. But all my little symbols for different things, I've gone back and laughed so hard. And of course, that was the journal that Bodie's like, can I read this? It's like, not that one. No. That one's probably no. I know. I was a blossomer at a young age and then I shut that shit down. I was like not, I got so well-behaved, like rule following. I hit, like 15 to 18 was my rebellious stage. And then I hit 18. And then I was like, I'm a good girl.

I'm a good girl now. I had a girl who, whose house I would like go over and hang out, you know, for a little bit when we were young. And she was a couple years older than me. So I would say she was probably more like 14, 15. And I was probably like, I don't know, 11, 12 or something. And so I would go over to her place. Like our parents all knew each other. And then one time she was like, oh, do you want to see my diary?

and I was like, sure. And she showed me her diary and she's like, I was like, what are all those like little dots? And she goes, oh, well, all those dots are the times in which I've had unprotected sex with my boyfriend. And I was like, oh, oh, gosh, okay. Cut to like a month later, my mom's like, oh my God, so and so is pregnant. Oh, my God, of course. Well, I was like, oh, I could have told you that was going to happen. That is so good.

Oh, my God. That probably was more like 13. No, I was, yeah, it was probably like 12, 13. And then she was like 15. She was probably like 15. Oh, oh, oh. Oh, I thought you was saying like. No, me being, I think I was like my son's age, like 12 or 13.

I was going over to like, you know, play in the snow at their house. And then she's like, do you want to see my diary? And it's like, oh, God. I was so innocent. Like, I didn't know what anything was until the moment. I fell into this crowd of friends, which is, by the way, my biggest fear for our children is the crowd of friends. It's so important. I fell into this crowd of friends and it was this one girl and she had zero boundaries at home.

She had this like mom that let her do anything. She was just wild like, you know, just crazy. And she took a liking to me and, like, took me under her wing. And then suddenly I was, like, doing the things that this girl was doing and trying to, like, be cool. And I was really, like, a good little Catholic girl. And then suddenly I was like, I can do this. I can push these boundaries. I can, you know.

And I didn't have the, I just didn't have any of, like, the structure at that age that I really needed. But I'm so lucky. I kind of grew out of wanting to, like, be a rule breaker and be rebellious. It just left my system. And then a lot of the people that I went to school with ended up having years more of like experimentation and so much partying. And I just like, maybe because I started working quite young as well, like that also will

keep you on straight and narrow. But yeah. How old were you, Teresa, when you started working? 18. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, that's like right when I'm, I think so. Yeah.

I didn't part, like I am of most of the people I know, apart from Sarah. I am one of the only ones who I've never done a hard drug. Like, never done. I've never tried them. I've never. That's amazing. I've maybe seen it in person a couple of times. But like, that's so not been my world at all.

And then I hear these stories. of people share, oh, when I was this, when I was at this thing, I was like, oh my God, I totally skipped out on all. I didn't do any of that. And Sarah didn't either. Yeah. That's amazing, guys. Yeah. I'm lucky to be alive. Yeah. Well, that's the majority of people's experience. Literally lucky to be alive. And you know what? We're darn happy that you are because we freaking love you. And I'm so sad. Yeah. Same way. All right. Well, I'm sorry. Well, I'm So glad we did this. Welcome to Broad Days with Olivia Allen.

And we'll have Rachel Beelson on here next time. It's going to be so fun. We love these girls so much. Love these girls. Love this check in. Love you guys. All right. That was a headgum podcast.