Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - Broads’ Witching Hour

Episode Date: October 30, 2023

In this special Halloween episode, Rachel, Olivia and Rob get a visit from psychic-medium/good witch Patti Negri to open the veil and welcome spirits into Rachel’s house.Later, the Broad Ideas hosts discuss fear of poisoned candy, conspiracy theories, and whether your partner not allowing Halloween for your kids is a dealbreaker.Broad Ideas is supported by Blissy. Get better sleep now with Blissy and use code RACHEL to get an additional 30% off at blissy.com/RACHELSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Welcome to broad ideas. Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween. Sounds like you're about to sing like a Halloween song. Maybe I was. Trick or treat. Trick a treat. Trick a treat.

This is a sign for ghosts. You say happy Halloween. Aw. I love that. We have a special episode. A spooky episode. special spooky episode of broad ideas today. Patty Negri, who is a witch herself.

Yeah. Medium. She joins us today. Yeah, a medium. And we're about to have her on if you're ready. Woo. Let's get our spook on. Sometimes when the one's sick inside of Rachel's little brain,

all these thoughts are swirling, round and round inside to join us on this journey as we take a little ride we'll talk about dogs and kids and things we'll talk about chicks and tampon strings we'll talk about boys because people die okay and we're recording okay patty thank you so much for being here oh thank you so much for having me I'm thrilled to be here and perfect season perfect season perfect season Not only that, but today's your birthday. Yes, it is. And it's Friday the 13.

Yes, it is. And how amazing is that? It's perfect. Every seven years or so when it happens, I'm like, yay, best day of the year. Yeah, so I was raised my mom. I was always raised that 13, like what a beautiful number and, you know, all the things we were talking briefly about this before. But what people say about it and how it's all a bunch of bullshit.

It is. It really, it's just, it's powerful. You take the energy. I honestly look at superstition and beliefs almost every one of them breaking a mirror, the number 13, black cats crossing your path, walking under a ladder. They're actually powerful, energetic things that you could make bad if you want to, but you could also make them really good. So it's just powerful. But like we said, people are afraid of power, so they make it bad. Yeah.

Right. If I ever had a tall building, there would definitely be a 13th floor. Oh. I hate that 12, 14. It's like, really? Yeah, they don't go. That's true. I know.

Yeah, they don't have a 13th floor. And that's... I mean, they do. They just don't number it. Yeah, but I know. But they don't number it. Oh, but it's there, but... There has to be a 13th floor to get there.

Which is the 13th floor. It's just like, it's funny. Oh, wow. Rarely do you ever see a 13th floor. So would you deliberately walk under this ladder right now? No. Yes, if I crawl. Yeah, I could do it.

You could do it. But there's all those things. You know, like everyone and the paranormal games and all, are you a believer in those? I have been doing that professionally since I was a kid. There's like three different shows that I'm always hunting ghosts with Zach Begans and the guys or my Ghost Finder's team. Yes. Amazing. I love it.

And spirits have a lot to say. They really do. You know, on TV stuff, you always have to go to the insane asylum and the serial killers house and the Cecil Hotel. But I like as equally well or better, the happy ghost that, you know, the people hanging in for the chandelier at the Hollywood Roosevelt, Maryland walking around the pool. I would love a happy ghost personally. I'm a happy ghost person, you know. But have you been to all those places like serial killer houses, like all of that stuff? I, yes, a lot.

I've had, literally, I've had, I've had someone burst into flames during a seance. No, what? We're not going to burst into flames. No, I promise. I don't want to. No, I promise. I don't really want to. were going for a dark thing. I was at Marilyn Manson's house right in my neighborhood. But I've had,

at the Cecil Hotel, I think is the darkest place I've been. I've heard that. I've heard that that has the most energy. It really makes you just walking up to it, anybody, you don't have to think you're as sensitive or intuitive, just walking up to it besides the fact that you're my skid row. It's just like, I want to die. I want to kill myself. I'm hopeless. It affects everybody, even strong-minded people. What do you think that is? There's something like kind of an egregore, something got created there. It was built to be this big, beautiful place, but the depression hit, and it's been a place

of sadness and disaster and failure since the day it was born, almost 100 years ago. So something got into it. Lots and lots of drugs and alcohol, which will bring in the dark stuff. So therefore, it brought in the serial killers like Richard Ramirez and more deaths in that place. I literally walked into a room. I had 700 to choose from. Zach's like, they're all open. You pick the elevator. And I went to that elevator. I'm like, oh, that's that Alyssa lamb elevator. I do have a chill. I know. And I'm like, and I just pushed a button and I went up and I walked in this horrible little room. And I'm like, I got to get out of here. And I'm walking towards the window and Zach starts yelling at me. I'm in my, I'm in a trance state. I left. And I'm like, why is he yelling at me? He doesn't yell at me. And I'm opening the window literally saying, I got to. to get out of here. I got to get out of here.

Of the 700 rooms, I led them to a room, somebody jumped out that exact window. And so he thought I was going to jump. I don't think I would have, but they had one of those SLS cameras and showed the spirit on top of my head. So that place is just like hopeless. That's heavy. That's a lot. Do you think that I wonder a lot with drugs and alcohol? Because I know a lot of people in my life have suffered from that. And there's been times where I'm like,

Is that an entity? Like, because something takes over and it is not of this world. And you're like, you can have all the education. You can have all the things. And sometimes I feel like it is that dark. Do you think it's? A hundred percent, I think it's that. I mean, because this actually is our realm of existence.

I believe that we have power over it unless you have a severe mental imbalance or an addiction problem. And there's nothing wrong with drinking or this. no judgments there, but something dark gets in. We leave this control. Yeah. And so, and then it becomes, is schizophrenia? Is it this? Is it that?

It brings it all in. Yeah. Let's bring it in. Let's do it. The first reaction to somebody, the spirits are everywhere. And the veil is getting thinner and thinner all the time now. As we move into that age of Aquarius, they sang about in the 60s. It's not our parents' parents.

you guys, grandparents, world of black and white, right and wrong. No, there is no solid ground. It's this. And the veil's thinning. So more and more stuff is going to happen. But if something comes in and it probably does all the time, especially with creative people, because we have that right brain developed. If it feels good, don't be afraid to talk to it.

Or even neutral, if there's no fear. If it feels bad, just command it to leave. That's it. In the name of whatever you believe in, in the name of God, and the name of your cat, and the name of your designer handbag, doesn't matter. And if you say it with Gucci, in the name of Gucci, you must leave. And then guess what? 99.9% of the time it does.

But you have to say it with authority and no anger and no fear because a negative entity wants you to get angry or fearful. But just be like, be that brave. Be mom or be teacher. Like, nope. And works. Right. Completely works. What about like so, you know, and my mom, again, like being brought up, she's like nothing negative.

Like when you're saying opening up a portal to hell or all these cursed things, like my mom has always taught me not to believe in that. Like not to lean into the scary negative stuff. Yeah. Right. And you don't have to because I, again, talking to spirits since I could talk, four or five, I knew the imaginary friends weren't imaginary. I did my first seance at seven or eight in my little suburban Long Beach home. I used to stuff towels under the doors and then I realized I didn't know dead people. And I called in every movie star I knew at the time and it filled with orbs and lights.

We create the world we live in, which is why I do only positive magic. And if I do go to negative spirit stuff, because that's what the show is doing, I have so protected. That's why I've studied this my whole life. I'm not going to step into that. But you live in the world you create. So why would you live in darkness and negative? Why would you send out people curses? Because that comes back at you.

It's not good or bad. So we can't curse anybody here today. No, we're not going to curse anybody. You can, but I won't. But again, honestly, you could get everything you want with positive magic and positive manifestation. Right. We're all about it. We're all about it.

Oh, my goodness. And happy spirits have as much to say. Dark spirits have this stuff to say, too. You just have to keep control. Right. But, you know, and it's true, though, big in life, big in death. If you're Bob the Quiet Banker, you're going to be Bob the Quiet Ghost. If you're some old big movie star or mass murderer,

that's who you're going to be in the spirit world. Wow. See, I find it comforting. Like, even the dark is comforting to me because I think, okay, well, if that exists and that's scary and all those things, then so does the light. Yeah. And so I find it very comforting, even if people have had dark experiences, I go, okay, well, at least we know there's something.

Yeah. And that is why I think that the rays in paranormal just keeps getting bigger and bigger. There's whole channels to it. I have a channel called Paraflix. It's all paranormal. It's like Netflix. and why, well, travel channels becoming discovery, but because times are scary now. We know that. Times have always been scary, but now they're scary with 24-7 bombardment of media news.

So traditionally, when times are scary, people would go back to their faith, go back to church, go back to temple. And people are. That's not keeping up for everybody, belief systems. So that's why the expansion of alternative religions, new age, paganism, witchcraft is the fastest growing religion. Because people are scared. You need something. But there's a whole group of people out there who like, I don't want religion. I don't even want spirituality. I just want to know there's something more than I see on TV if we get blown up by whoever. They're becoming paranormal investigator. So let's go on a ghost hunt. Just what you said, we want to know some things there. And so then they'll go out and then they'll say, oh my gosh, it's real. And then a lot of times they will backdoor into a belief

system just to help them navigate it. Because I do all those like paracons and conventions and where They used to be, the ghost hunters, a ghost hunters. Now there's crystal stores and all these spirituality and teams are bringing mediums and psychics and witches and priests and everything with them now. I love it. It's cool. I love it. So what do you have here today?

What are we up to? Well, what I brought, since the veil is so thin in October, because Halloween, well, we know as Halloween, is really Sowan, which is the pagan holiday of Sowan, when the veil of all the year, the veil is thinnest of the year, which is why the Halloween tradition. came on of dressing up and putting lanterns in front of your house to scare away the bad spirits and scare things and giving presents. But really in the pagan belief system, it's to celebrate the ancestors because it is thin. So it's the time to put out pictures of grandma and grandpa and light a candle and tell stories and stuff. So that's what it's about. But the veil is

thin. So I thought if you guys, we could do a light little lifting of the veil and see if you want to talk to anybody. We love lifting a veil. We're not going to call anything dark or negative. I'm going to call in elementally so I don't, the way I work, air, fire, water, earth, as pagans do, or Native Americans or any shamanic people. So it won't conflict with anybody's belief system. You call in whatever deities, angels, Christlight, whatever you work with. So we're only going to invite in good and light, and you guys can see who you want to talk to, and we'll see who comes.

This is my funny box. It's like a ghost, like an obulus, and it might. Sometimes names names and is the most accurate. It'll say, Rachel will answer the phone and the phone will ring. Sometimes it'll say Elvis is here and he's not. It's kind of hit or miss pick up radio waves. My great thing that I use, again, not that we need it, is dowsing rods because they've been around forever. Water Witches, contractors use them to find water lines.

You could find them in the desert to find water. But for divination, they literally, they cross on you. Yes and not on no. They will point to spirit. You have a spirit right there. I just saw you do that. Okay. So again, I'll show you how this works before we even open.

Oh, I just turn in a little bit of color. Oops, hit the microphone. Okay. Stop it. I can't control them at all. I cross. Don't cross. I can't.

I could hand them to any of you and work the same. I know there's a lot of energy in here. Okay. We are in Paris, France. We are in the greater Los Angeles. Pasadena area. Yes, we are. There is four living humans in this room. Yes, there is. There is a live giraffe in this room. No, there's not. There's there another spirit here? Yes, there is. Where are you, Spirit? Ah! Yeah, right over there. Okay. So, hello, Spirit. You're kind of going back and forth

between here and there. So again, and lifting the veil, what we do is that, well, you guys, again, because you're creatives, you're going to have a really good intuition naturally, and it's developed anyways. But again, we're only going to call it. So we can, even though we won't see shadows and orbs, you'll get the ghost bombs, you'll get the heaviness and the lightness and feel a touch if you're comfortable with that, right within their realm. So let's do it. Let's do it. Okay. I'm going to sit this down for a second. Okay. So here we go. Light and darker turning, luck be in the burning. Light and darker turning, luck be in the burning.

Black spirits and white, red spirits and gray. Mingle, mingle, mingle, who may. Thada taut out, around and about. A world within and a world without. The good come in and the ill stay out. Everybody take a deep breath in. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Hold it. Exhale. Hold it out. Feel the empty. Good. Another deep breath in.

Hold it. And exhale. Hold it out. Keep slow, easy breathing on your own. As we get started, I want to call in the east winds, the beautiful winds of the east to bring in clarity and focus and to blow out anything negative or any blocks in us communicating with the spirit world. blow out any negative spirits or entities that want to communicate. Spirits with the East, be with us now. You might feel that wide around this whole crown of illumination around your head. Let's call in the South, fire, passion, creativity, love, sex, God, everything that wakes us up in the morning, calling in that beautiful fire element to burn away, any blocks and anything negative,

and to mold and shape it into that of a heart, where we communicate with our loved ones on the other side. spirits of the South, be with us now. You might feel that in your heart or in the base of your spine, that Coonelini energy coming up. Calling the West, sweet waters are the West, water, emotion. 60% of our body is water. 70% of our planet made those waters flow gentle like a tear down the cheek to the ocean, which is life itself.

And also with the West, with the waters, may the mists of the ancestors rise within each of us. and we connect within our blood. Spirits of the West, be with us now. And lastly, I want to call the North, Mother Earth herself, this beautiful planet of which we live, gives us gravity, holds us down, yet gives us the strength to reach for the heavens and the stars. Keep us safe like a womb, safe like a home.

Spirits of the North, be with us now. And feel like it's a net ready to rise around us, like this soft curtain as we're getting ready to slowly raise the veil. There is a place where we all go, We're near the frost or cold winds blow, and our friends remembered reunite, and those who hate forget their spite. We gather around these gentle beings. We call you now to bless our meeting.

And for the living, these spirits do thrive. And now, for the living, may the dead come alive. With the ringing of this bell, we lift the veil twixt heaven and hell. to call the spirits to us now as we make this sacred vow. We are between the world. Okay, now what I usually like to do is introduce ourselves, just like you would on a ghost hunt, and invite the spirits in. And if there's somebody you'd like to specifically say this,

like, hi, my name is Patty, and welcome spirits, all good and light, we want to communicate. And say your name, and if you want to invite somebody specific that you knew on the other side. My name is Rachel, and I am open to who. ever wants to come in, and I'm fortunate enough to not have many family members on the other side, but open to all. Okay. Thank you. I'm Rob.

I'm open to all as well. Okay. Thanks. I'm Olivia, and I'm open to all. I would love my dad, though. Okay. Let's start there. What is your dad's name?

Michael. Michael. In love and light, we do call in the spirit, Olivia's father, Michael. Did he have something with some head thing, pressure? Don't remember headaches? Because I was getting that before we called him. So that, okay, that's a woman and somebody you knew, I think. So we'll go on to Michael.

I just wanted to. A woman I knew? Yeah. With headache? But we'll go on to Michael and then we'll come back to her. I don't know how well you knew her, but she's kind of hanging out right by you. And I think it was a teacher. Really?

Yeah. Hmm. It's from a long time ago. Wow. You probably don't even remember her or, no, she was dead. I'm talking back to school days. Yeah. But you stood out in her mind.

Wow. Yeah. Weird. She has brown hair, short brown hair. Huh. God, I hope that woman I'm thinking of isn't dead. That would be terrible. Okay.

Well, she really liked you. Well, we'll go back to that because I just, when I feel something. It's my memory, though, is also the problem here. I'm talking, I'm literally talking like grade school. Yeah. Short brown hair. Short brown hair. I definitely had a teacher.

Yeah, I mean. Like that. Yeah. So let's go back to your dad, Michael. So anyway, I'm going to start thinking about it. once. So he is showing me, do you get a tight feeling like right here sometimes? Not no pain, but like an awareness where you speak like your vocal cords.

I lose my voice when I eat gluten. I don't think it's that. Pay attention to that because he just showed me that. And if you feel something like that, kind of an awareness, like where your vocal cords are, your teeth, your tongue, everywhere you talk from, that is your dad just urging you to say what you really want to say. If that makes sense to you, that is your dad kind of urging you to say what he really wants to say.

Spirits do that. They become our kind of guardian angels along the way and nudge and nudge. He also, he's a little bit tactile. will play with your ear sometime if it feels like it's your hair or something like that. So it feels like, what's that? Have you felt anything like that? I have itchy ears all the time. Okay, that's your dad.

I have itchy ears all the time. Don't I? Yeah. Constant itchy ears. That is your dad. So I guess he loves what you're doing. And again, you obviously speak and speak your truth. But that's him tickling away. He just did it to me.

So you can tell him, I'm here, Dad, so you can take away the tickle or the it. So that's funny. But that's because this area through here, our five senses are here, obviously. And our sixth sense, if you go to your third eye here and then back here is doing it now, huh? Yeah. Yeah. And then the biggest portal on our body is right here where our head and neck come together. That's why when you pray, you bow that open to open up to God.

So this area they can touch more. Yeah, that's why we, most people don't know why we do that. I thought it was just like a rod for spirit. Yeah. So when you're like on, say, a paranormal investigation and you're going to the spooky places, you open this and close this. That's why people would go, I've got a monkey in my back. I got an entity, something attached on right there.

Oh, wow. Yeah. So I will always like shut that down with my fingers, with magical oil, with anything, and do it. Your dad hangs out with you a lot. He will take form, but he also, he's a floater, if that makes sense. If you ever notice your eyes wandering up or kids or animals around that are looking up at nothing, that's at your dad. Does that make sense? Like, you're just like, I'm sitting here because he likes kind of the bird's eye view of things.

Does that make sense? Let's ask him if he wants to talk through the funny box. Want to try that? Yeah, yeah. Okay. I mean, I don't like to call it a funny box. Like a couple years ago, it was, it's just got a glitch. It's got a bug.

Okay, this is for Michael to talk to. Either gender can come out. Is that John? Does he know John? Do you know John? My godfather was John. Okay. So is that what you wanted to say?

Are you with John? Okay. I was going to, I was. Going to ask for him? I was going to ask for John or my dad. Okay. So is John here too with us? Michael?

Chest. Chest? Does that mean something to you? Yeah. Okay. Oh, my God. Oh, my gosh. So he likes the box.

Better than you. Yeah. You're really going to notice that talking thing, I think. Patricia. That's my mom. Okay. There you go. I have, I can't.

Yeah. So, yeah, he likes the box. So anything else that you want to tell us, Michael? I didn't even get that. I didn't. I mean, sometimes it's hard. It's hard for them. So, all right.

Well, thank you. Wait. Oh. Love, love. Love. Love. Oh. That's.

Love. It's cute. And if you come up with anything. Anything specific. Yeah. So think about whatever. So we got John and Patty and love and chest and I don't know what else. Yeah.

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I know. You know who one time we spoke with a medium and my grade. grandfather came through. It's kind of like the only, I mean, my grandparents and my other grandma passed away last year. I just have three grandparents that have passed away. Okay. And I don't know if any of them want to come in, but I guess. We could ask.

I don't force anybody to come in. Did you, what's hanging besides you besides the teachery kind of person is a mid-sized dog? Mm-hmm. Did you have a mids? Yeah. My first, Thurman was mid-sized, wouldn't you say? Mm-hmm. Or Jasmine, maybe.

I have, yeah, we could be one of them. Okay. But a dog's here? Yeah. Okay. It's this big. It's more Thurman, right? What's her name?

Thurman, he was my first dog. Thurman? Again, they don't speak English. They're the same. They show pictures. But is Thurman here? Yeah. Where is Thurman?

Oops, sorry, at the microphone. Oh. He's right there. Oh, guys. Animals are come, they just love us so much. Yeah. You notice them when you least expect it, like you're at your computer. you're watching TV or you're eating and something brushes by your leg,

or you just notice something from your peripheral vision and things. So he is here. Aw. He actually, he likes to sit in the light where it comes in through a window. I don't know if he did that in life, but he does that now. Yeah. He does that now. So, okay, what is your grandparents' name?

So there's Al, Edith, or Mona. Okay. Those are such solid grandparents. There's her son-grandparents names. Al-Edith or Mona. So in love and light, we do want to request in the spirits of Al-edith or Mona. I think it's Mona keeps doing this brush thing. Like hair, I don't know what this is. Do you remember her doing something like that? Or did she have something with her eye or forehead? Not that I can remember. Is that you, Mona? Yeah. I don't know what it is. Well, well, there's a big height difference in them. The grandparents? Yeah.

Yeah. I'm not seeing who's with who, but I see that there's a really big height difference. Yeah. Al's kind of funny. Yes. Because you're going like this. Yeah. You should make him a little like, I'm here.

Yeah. That would be, yeah. Okay. Al. He always comes through a crack's joke. What? Yeah. He put us up in there.

No, it's great, though. It's accurate. It is. He's a jokester. He's a jokester. He's really cute. He's a jokster. Still, I don't know what mom is.

Hmm. Interesting. Did she used to tell you to get your hair out of your face or something like that? I feel like my other grandma did. Your other grandma did? Maybe I can hear my mom. Maybe I've got the wrong one. I don't know.

Yeah. But your hair's not in your face. Well, it's fine. Yeah, I feel like I can hear my grandmother. Yeah. Like my posture, just like things like that. Yeah. So maybe it's her.

Maybe. Maybe it's her. Because it was just like, like move the hair. That's what it really felt like. My mom says that too. Really? Yeah. It's a generational thing, I guess.

I don't know. Al, do you have something of his in a box, a small box? I have a couple of his letters to my grandmother when he was in the world. when he was in the war. They're in my little wooden drawer. Okay. Is that what you're talking about? Yeah.

He loves that you have that. The memory. He says, because he showed me like a box, but a wooden drawer, same as a box of his. And he's also showing me, not that it's his,

but something in a closet. It's in the bottom of a closet. Do you remember a memory attached to like playing in the closet? or something in the bottom of the closet, because this is a funny thing. He's showing me. It's a funny thing? It's a funny thing.

I mean, I'm sure there's some, not that I can, like, pull out of my memory, but I feel like there might have been something. Did you go play in the closet? So you're showing me the floor of a closet. Yes, you are. Do you move things around in the closet sometimes? He would always organize my mom's closets and floors at her house, for sure. Okay.

Always. So maybe he's, maybe he's telling you you need more organized closet. I really do. That's true. That's true. I really do. I bet he wishes he could come here and organize this house.

You want to organize races? Yes. I want to go right there. He would love that. Because it's the floor of the closet. That is his wheelhouse. That is amazing. That is good because it's like the closet, the closet is the closet.

What is it? It's not his stuff. No, it's the closet. It's your stuff. Yep. That makes sense. Oh, my God, he's the cutest. Oh, Popop.

He's the cutest. He's really. family that you met. It's their grandfather. So we were just talking about how he's the best, funniest. He is good. And something about shoes? Oh, I got a lot of shoes. Oh, does she have too many shoes? Okay. All right. All right. So long as they're organized. It's okay, I guess. Oh, that's funny. Anything you want to specifically ask him or tell him or do you want to try him on the box? Let's try him on the box. Okay. Well, a little crystal ball. Why not?

Just for Grandpa L. Does September mean anything? And the grandmas can talk here too. But the gender of the voice doesn't matter. September? Is there a significant date, birthday? I have to ask if... You want you to hear September.

Did one of them pass away in September? I'd have to ask me. It's possible. Okay. Birthdays, I'm going through their birthdays. No. Mm-mm. Something.

I don't know. So what else? No. Just no. Okay, pop-up. So you've got it wrong about September, I guess. I don't know what that is. So, all right, what's a no?

What's no? Or maybe no K&W, like, no what's in September? I don't know. We can't. Yeah. Who knows? You have to decipher the spirit world sometimes. Yeah.

September. I have to ask. No? May. May? May? May? May?

That's weird. This box doesn't usually do a bunch of months like that. Really? May. Because it, yeah, the programming picks up. I don't know how it picks things up. May and September. May September? Did somebody have a May September? No. What? Oh. F? I found like us.

Us? Us. So is everybody there, all the grandparents? Al. Yeah, who's talking? Who's the... So, uh, Edith? Edith, what?

Hmm. Yeah. What? Yeah. Can you hear me? Yeah, we can hear you. What's your? Do you hear me?

Yeah. Can you hear me? Yes. Definitely. Okay. Oh. Steve? Steve?

It's never said Steve before. It's never said Steve before. Do you know a Steve? No. Do you know Steve? No. You? No.

I have lie lie you must know Steve you do know one Steve could certainly be a living Steve

Al are you enjoying this and the grandmas are you guys here too Edith and mom? Baby Baby Am I going to have a baby named Steve Baby with Steve?

He's pretty cute Popop's the cutest He is really cute. I have to ask one last question is Steve. Who's Steve? Because if nobody knows Steve, because that was very strong. Okay. One last question, because no one's talking to me.

That's fine. Who's Steve? What? I'm lonely. Steve is lonely? Steve, are you just kind of hanging out here? Are you the spirit that's in the corner? Oh, where are you?

Oh. But I'm lonely. I'm lonely. So Steve is the spirit. Steve is the spirit. And you're here, right? And you're lonely. Are you friendly?

Are you friendly? Yeah, he's friendly. We would feel a whole different. Trust that first intuition like this. Yeah. He likes to kind of hang by that tree right there. Do you have you, have you visited this house before? Do you like the podcast?

Yes. Tells everybody about it. No, I don't. Did you live in the house? area or something like that, Steve? Huh. Did you live in this house? Yeah, did you live in this house?

Hmm. No. But you live nearby. Huh. Did you been to this house before? Were you a neighbor? A neighbor? Okay.

A neighbor Steve. So any neighbors who've been here a long time, you could ask them if they knew Steve. Yeah. Because he's here. Because he's here. Yeah. He hangs out. You want to hang out? Yeah. And you're lonely. And this house is full of, this house is full of activity and beautiful happiness and chaos and people. So he likes to be around. He likes to be around. There's always people here. It's true. There's people here. He's a busy house. He's pretty cute. So, um, is he hot? Is he hot? Are you hot? He actually is. He's, he's, how he's showing himself is kind of 50s and really good looking,

kind of like Hollywood good looking. I'm not sure because sometimes if somebody enjoyed getting old, they will show themselves as grandma or grandpa. If they really kind of hated getting old, they're going to do their 1950s in my heyday at, you know, 27 or whatever. He's showing himself in his 50s, good looking. kind of salt and peppery hair. You lived here in the area, yeah.

Really close, I think. So, yeah, if you can I even find out. Yeah, I'm going to find out. So, again, your house, your control. You could say Steve go home or Steve hang out, but there's nothing icky about him. Yeah, he's just. There's nothing icky about him.

Okay. We're happy about that. Yeah. All right. Anybody. Say Steve. See, Steve. I see.

I have a question. after Rob, though. Okay. Yeah. After Rob. Yeah. Grandpa is the talker. How?

It means you've got to talk to someone on the other side. Yeah, come on, Rob. Who do you have, Rob? I've got my grandpa. Your grandpa? Yep. And what's his name? Harold.

Harold? Okay. In love and light. We're going to call Robb's grandfather, Harold. He's pointing out your hat. Was he a fan? Not really. Yeah.

I didn't get that. I didn't either. Sounds. It could be sounds. Are you, that's a baseball hat, right? Yeah. Do you like his hat? June.

June? June. June? June's my birthday. June's my birthday. So you want to give him a new hat for his birthday? Was he, like, the, what's the other Chicago? The Cubs?

Yeah. No, he was Tennessee guy. Oh. That's funny. Okay, so something special for Rob's birthday? Linda. We don't know where all these funny names are coming from. Is Linda hanging out with Steve?

Well, he's lonely, so he might be. So is there a Linda here? No. Grandpa's saying Linda. My name of my street. My sister's name is Melinda. Melinda. Oh, that's probably it.

Scared. Scared. Scared. Is Melinda living? Yeah. Or on the other side? Is Melinda scared? Is she going through something right now?

She's about having a baby. Oh, there you go. That's it. That's scary. Linda, Malinda, again, they get spelling wrong. So are you talking about Melinda ready to have a baby? Yes. Yeah.

It's a surrogate baby, too. That's okay. James. James? James. Is she naming the baby James? I don't know. Oh, my God.

Let's see. That would be cool. That would be cool. She's naming a baby. What? Because she's having a big for somebody. Oh, wow. She's carrying someone.

She's the surrogate. That's so cool. That is so cool. That is really sweet of her. I wonder if she's carrying it for James. Probably. Yeah. Yeah.

That would be. Beside. Beside. Beside. What? We don't know what that is. Okay. One more choice until we need complete answers.

That is weird. But Melinda, tell her she's going to be okay. Yeah. And maybe nothing else. Okay. Daddy. Patty. It sounded like Patty.

It could have been Patty. I'm Patty. Yeah. Or it sounded like daddy to me. Oh. Maybe James is the daddy. Oh, of the. You got to ask questions.

Yeah. You need to know. I'll find out. Yeah. Find out. Find out. Let us all know. 11.

What if the due date's the 18th or the 11? Well, it's a C-section. So you know what the date is? Okay. Well, I didn't know if you knew if it was the 18th. Is it? No. Because how spirits work?

Some are very visual. Some are very, it's emotional. Some are very, it's like you're looking at a scrapbook. And some, it's like you feel it and different. and he's more showing me things. Like your hat. Didn't like your hat. You didn't like hats.

Is that what it was? Okay. Oh, God. So that's it. You just don't like hats. Men don't wear hats indoors. Old school men don't wear hats inside. Yeah.

Oh, wow. See? See, see. See? He's skeptical. All right. Is there some of the things? you guys want to ask any of your loved ones anything about or wisdom or are they still here yeah everybody's

still here oh yeah i would see direction for both rachel yeah i know like am i headed down the right path so to speak okay all right so all right so all who are connected and here for the positive of rachel grandparents spirit guides second grade teacher whoever you are second grade that's so weird because that's what came into my head, but she had white hair at the time. So I don't know. But she might have liked herself younger. Remember, I even know what to say that? Yeah. That's so weird because she's the teacher I remember the mother. Yes. So that's what I just heard. Yeah. That's what I just heard. So maybe she at one time had brown hair. Maybe. And then. Yeah. So anybody who cares about Rachel.

Do you, is she on the right path? Ross on yes. Yes. Is somebody, I think it's what your grandma is saying is you have to trust yourself more. Oh, yeah, that's true. Yeah. I think it's your grandma just, I mean, that's a pretty obvious, broad thing, but it's the grandma saying just trust yourself more. Okay. I appreciate that.

And don't hold your breath. Not like literally don't hold your breath waiting for something, but do you catch yourself holding your breath sometimes? I do. Yeah. A lot as a kid, too. Yeah. That, what that is, is because you've had a tiny little shield right here, she's saying.

And that holding your breath is, like, basically, do you remember something when you were young, probably even younger than second grade that kind of set you back a little bit, upset you a little bit? I mean, not tragic. You weren't abducted by aliens or anything. Did you move or have change of family dynamics or something? That was later. Later? I mean, I had like traumatic, like, you know, dog bite, like things like that. I don't know.

Okay. Okay. How old are you in like a dog bite? Three. Three? Okay. So is it three-year-old Rachel that we're seeing that holds your breath? Three-year-old Rachel that hold your breath.

So what I would suggest to you, this is my advice, not hers, because she said, don't hold your breath. And you've probably been doing it since you were three. That's a little shield. You put like a little, almost like a fear, but it's a. dial down because I always picture dial zero to 10 dial down. So get in a bathtub, throw in a little salt for cleansing, a little sugar for sweetness, a little milk for nurturing. It's an old-fashioned southern white folk magic white bath. Light a candle, show you're doing something

sacred, get naked, that's how you get in the bath. It's inner child work. And get in the bath, just for a minute, do just kind of what you did. Well, dog white, whatever, little kid. But just for a minute because that memory really doesn't matter. That memory is going to be colored by all your your life experiences since then, your education, your maturity. Then put beautiful three-year-old Rachel in the bathroom with you and then don't remember anything. Just listen to her. Let her tell you her thoughts on things. It's just caution she pulls on. It's like this little illogical, self-imposed limitation, if that makes sense. And then correct her. Let her know what a beautiful woman she grew up. A successful beautiful woman. Family.

She doesn't know any of that. And then you won't cut yourself holding your breath so more. And when you hold yourself your breath, that's when you get a little chatty brain. Because that's how it's connected. That's accurate. Yeah. Yeah. So that's from grab on.

A little chatty brain. Chatty brain. Chatty brain. Over here. Again, because that's all connected to breath. That's all connected to breath. And that's why when you catch yourself, it's a little, it's just a little pullback. And she's got some, you're going to hear her say something.

you're going to go, I didn't know I thought that, but that doesn't even make sense, sort of. But that explains why maybe in second grade, blah, blah, blah, blah. Last week when so-and-so happened, blah, blah, blah, it's that little three-year-old going, see, step back. Just a little step back. So you've got that. Okay. And breathe. So that's your big advice.

Yeah. That's accurate for me. And you want advice from anybody, grandpa? Dad, grandpa. Or if there's any other family members that are not Steve or any other family members that are present. Yeah, I would love guidance or direction, anything that wants to come forward. You are, and you feel it already, you're at a crossroads of really stepping into your power. You know that, right?

And energetic, spiritual life, all of the above. It's like raising vibration of that. So, again, don't be afraid of making wrong decisions because, number one, you're not going to. And number two, and more importantly, there aren't any because this new path is wider. You don't have to, you don't have to be on the interstate going, d-de-de-de-de-you-you-get. You get to go windy here and there. You get to take the scenic route. Like if there's three doors ahead of you, you're standing in the hall, hitting your butt more than that.

in the desert, go in the beach. That's what I keep seeing for you. The time we're living is expansive, and you are so stepping into your power. People are probably already noticing already, whether they know what it is or not, and you are too. Does that make sense? So that's your guides, even more than just family members, just saying, again, that just do it kind of thing, because you know it. And do you get in nature a lot or enough? You should. I would say recently more, but not enough. Because you have a lot of elemental energy. You are going to get fed by sitting under a tree with your spine along the trunk.

I like that. Find a big tree that attracts you. You don't have to own it or anything. Walk around it three times, clockwise, and then just look up and sit there for a second. You'll get a message because you have very elemental guides. Cool. Yeah. I like that. Yeah.

Yeah. It's healthy. It's in every which way healthy. So that's your big thing. Because you're stepping, and you know that you're stepping into this next level thing, that will help feed you. That will help feed you. So then that's your best wisdom. That's your best wisdom. And you're just not supposed to wear a hat indoors again.

We're going to go dance with the trees and happy now. It's so happy now. Oh, my God. Are you paying respect to Instagram? That's so sweet. Do you feel him? Don't you feel a little tingly right now? Thank you.

This is been. We have to close this, though. Okay. Oh, gosh. We do. You don't want to leave this open. I mean, I don't know. I can hang out and pop up all the time.

Or Steve. Well, they could still stay, but we just want to close it a little. I mean, I don't know. Steve, no offense. I don't know. I feel like Breyer, I don't know how to handle. Steve can go. Steve can go. I feel so feel bad now. I don't feel it's okay. But your grandparent, nobody will like go. It's just we're closing the veil. So there's not an open door. So again, let your eyes place over close. So think about your loved ones. Maybe they just, if you're comfortable, come right up to you. Maybe they have a want to whisper something just to you that no one else hears. If you're comfortable with it, maybe they want to touch you. Somebody's touching somebody's shoulder. Somebody's tickling someone's here. They can do that. What we get out of it, we get some answer, we get some entertainment.

I've gotten everything from iPhone codes to where the will's hidden. But what they get out of it is they're fine on the other side. Every dead person I talk to, but they don't have time and space. This is like, ooh, being alive. It's a titillation of, I have a real conversation back and forth with my grandkids and my family. So it's a win-win situation, and you could talk to them anytime you want. especially going into this season. So thank them and then see them stepping backwards into the darkness,

into the shadow. Going back, back. As we slowly close the veil between the world. There we go. Now everybody go like this. Wake it up. Wake it up, wake it up, wake it up. And now you guys get mundane, talk about regular things, silly things, stupid things.

Never. Amazing. Thank you. Thank you so much. That was so cool. Even just this little, you guys are all intuitive anyway, but even this little raising, you're going to be extra sensitive for a few days, all five, all six of your senses and probably have extra good, great, great dream life along the way.

Oh, amazing. Thank you guys. Thank you so much for being here. That was really cool. Thank you for bringing your book. You're welcome. And just coming here on your birthday. Yes.

Oh, best place to be. So thank you. Oh, thank you so much. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Yeah, well, I'm in the middle. I'm trying to multitask.

How long does that cheese stay good outside? It said it didn't need to be refrigerated. How long does that cheese stay good? So can you please tell everyone what the hell you're talking about? Robba. Robba. Rob got me an amazing birthday gift because he pays attention and listens. Yeah.

And he got me nacho cheese, the melty-com. mine. A weird giant thing. A gargantuous thing of jalapinos. That's exciting. And the chips and the little cartons to eat them in. That's so cute. Just like junior high school. Rob is the most thoughtful gift giver. We have to just give credit where credits do. I will say, yes, you listen. I have no memory because when Rob showed me what he was getting you, I was like, huh? Really? Which was like four days after. I still don't know. We talked about it. I don't remember. That's how Deanna and I made up when we, like, got in a fight, weren't talking. She sent that to my house.

Yes. I was there. You were here. You were here. It was recorded. It's really bad. The brain. But Rob is such a thoughtful gift giver.

Very. What did you get me? Oh. Sidecar and Courage bagels. Yeah. That was very thoughtful. He listens to our wants and our desires. He listens to our complaining that it doesn't bring us courage bagels anymore.

I think you can complain about that after I. I'd brought in you it for your birthday, too. Well, just because it was my birthday. You used to just bring them. That doesn't count. You know how badly I crave that? Yeah, let's do it. Allent butter and jam bagel situation.

It's almond butter, right? Well, I really want you to come there. Let's go. Because Ariel wants to meet you. I just was very excited. That is so eager. I want that bagel. Ariel wants to meet you.

I want to meet her. I keep feeling bad bringing them and ridding her of the opportunity to meet Rachel. We can go next week. All right, let's go. Do we want to talk about what we experienced? Are we ready to talk about what we experienced? I mean, I will say what will you say? The next day after, all of a sudden a picture on my phone popped up and it was of Pop Pop and I.

Yeah, that was weird. Olivia, I was at her house and I looked up, I said, Olivia, that picture's crooked. She was like circling a tree at that point. She did then make me go outside and circle a tree and film it. I did do that. And we sent it to you. Yeah. Yep.

And it made you very happy. Did you laugh? I did. Well, I was dealing with a helicopter circling. Oh, yeah, that's right. It was right after Rob sent us a helicopter circling saying, drop your weapons. You have you surrounded. We were like, what's happening.

Oh, my gosh. Did you find out what happened? I took the dog for a walk, which I never took the dog for a walk. You know what? if you want a dog on your side in the face of danger, it's Huxley. So I walked over there and there were eight or nine cop cars, cops with like big guns. Whoa.

There was like someone in the backyard that apparently wasn't trying to harm anyone, but had a weapon. That's scary. That's scary. It's not comforting. Yeah, there's been a lot of unhoused people lately around our neighborhood. Okay. So I think that's what it was.

Someone had gotten into someone's backyard. It's scary. It is scary. You go back there? Nope. And it was like a block and a half from our house. Yeah, we said the video. Like the helicopter was like, that's so scary.

Yeah. I woke up in the middle of the night after Patty was with us. And I got three at three and after who? Patty. Patty was here with us. Oh, they said, Patty. No, that's my sister. I know.

Okay. And I woke up and I thought, is Steve here? Because like, I got a little scared. Well, you got scared of Steve? Well, I know Steve's friendly, but you know when you wake up in the middle of the night, like, you're not that rational. Like, just things are heightened and everything's scarier and the worst thoughts come in, well, at least for me. And I remember saying, like, if we do a seance or anything in my house, I know what's going to scare me because then I'm going to know what's here. even though Steve is a very friendly, lonely ghost, spirit, I still just got a little spooked. Well, tell, did you tell Rob about the window breaking too? You were saying that Steve broke my window?

No, Breyer broke your window, but then what you heard over the... Oh! Yeah. Okay. Okay. She's like, Steve did it? I'm like, I'm like, a partial Breyer cartwheeled into the window. She's totally fine.

not even anything on her, not a scratch, just to put that out there. But she did cartwheel into the window and it's broken right now. Shattered. But, and my friend was here too, who wasn't a part of the seance or anything. And we were standing there looking at the broken window and all of a sudden we heard like it sounded like dogs, dogs paws and their like nails walking across the wood floor. And we both looked at each other. I'm like, did you hear that?

She's like, did you hear that? And it sounded like a dog, but my dog wasn't here. Nothing was here. And I was like, oh, my God. Thurman. Steve. No, Thurman. Remember, Thurman was here in the room with us?

Yeah, I remember she said that. We heard. Steve's here. Steve likes this tree. I just got the chills. Steve's here. He is. Yeah.

He's tickling your ears. Wait. Steve, I'm not scared of you and I know you like to hang out because there's people here. I get it. And even when we said, like, leave, I felt bad after. because he's lonely, you know. You might have made him mad. In the afterl.

Rob, I'm itching all over the place. Rob, I get scared really easily. I'm not leaving. Now you're... Well, you can command him to leave. You can command him, but there can't be any fear. I'm going to feel bad. Will you stop it?

We're never doing a sance at my house ever again. We're only in Rob's basement. I command you to leave, Steve. Steve, it's okay. Did you feel that? Steve, hang out. I did feel that. Yeah, that was just strong.

He's going to come here. house. There's always things going on at Rob, Steve. Steve can stay. Will you stop it? Just watch over Rachel while she's sleeping. Rob? Protect her. I command you to leave, Steve. Damn, he felt that.

How did they make them leave in the movie Ghost? Wasn't there like a trick? Didn't they fuck him? Sorry. Sorry. What? Didn't she make love to a ghost? That's like the whole thing. Demi Moore. Patrick Swayze. What? She did? It's been a long time since they have the whole making of the clay and the pottery

And wasn't it actually like didn't she like hook up with whoopi or something? Yeah it's been a while for me too I have to rewatch But isn't there a way to get ghosts to leave? Yeah you command them to leave Yeah so Patty said you can't have any fear or anger though when you say it It's just straight up like you do a boundary No fear no anger with a kid

Oh But I think it really only works if Rachel does it Okay, go ahead, Rachel. Because it's her house. Try. You can't be afraid. That's not true. She can do it for me because she practically lives here. I think you should try.

But I do feel bad. Yeah, I know. But this is good for you. This is the thing. This is the people pleasing and boundaries. Set some boundaries with your ghost. I feel bad about lonely Steve. No, this is actually really good.

I feel bad about this. Who's comfort are you putting first? Steve's. You can't do that. But if you don't say it the right way, it's going to just anger. him and he's going to be... Rob, you need to stop it.

He's laughing your head with the garbage. You just step into your authority. Steve, I command you to leave. That was it. It rhymed. I know. I felt that too when I said it. Stop rhyming.

I mean it. Okay. I don't want you to feel bad because the truth of the matter is... I don't. It's not, you know, it... The truth of the matter is there's no Steve and Steve's not in the house. Rob, I do believe in all that stuff. So I definitely think Steve was hanging.

out. But it's fine. I'm fine. Everything's fine. I think it was weird because I was contemplating, either calling forward John, my godfather, or my dad. And I was like, John or my dad, John or my dad. And I thought, I'll go with John since we already did my dad with Jonathan. John's a very uncommon name. It's not about it being uncommon.

Such a skeptic. There's a million names it could have been, but it was John. Yeah, but there's like... And then chest. And then chest. I think I heard chest. Rob, you didn't think it was weird that Grandpa Harold was really mad about your hat when he did not like people wearing hats indoors. Yeah, is that true? He said hat, though.

There was just like random words. They're like, yeah, there was ways to connect anything. They could have said, he's because of candy. And I've been like, oh, yeah, my Grammy used to make this caramel candy thing. Did she? Yeah. See, but that would have connected to something real for you. I wouldn't know about the caramel candy.

It's like, you with a spoon. It's really good. She was just like brown sugar and butter. I tried to make it. She sent me the recipe before she died. And one of the things was boiling butter and brown sugar. One of the steps is just beat the hell out of it for like hours. With an electric beater?

No. Oh. No. Okay. Okay. You need like a candy thermometer or two. That's a lot. That's a lot of work.

We do candy yams in my family, and it's kind of similar because it's like brown sugar and butter, and you have to like bast it all the time until it caramelizes for hours and hours. It's probably similar to that. Although they used to use caro syrup, which is frowned upon now. It tastes a lot like the milk bar pie. But like a little different consistency with that. We did send you that for your birthday, by the way. We did.

Rob loves it. I do have a question. Yes. Do you believe? Do you believe? Leave in life after love. Oh, I was going to go a different way. Okay.

Do you believe that the veil is thinner between this side and the other side? On Halloween. Like around Halloween. I do. It came from something, okay. I don't. So you do believe. I do.

I mean, I don't think about it. So. Do you believe there's anything on the other side of this reality that we experience? I hope. I don't. No, one way or the other. So do you bite into that belief at all at the veil's thinner? If someone says it, sure, I can believe it, but I'm not actively ever thinking about it.

You're not doing ritual. Right. Do you have any Halloween rituals that you guys do with your family? Trick-a-treat? Trick-a-tru. I mean, we do, we go to Daxis for their hayride around the neighborhood. Calvin loves that. So boogie.

casual so booby you know my mom's all into like all hallowsie and like the whole story you know she gets into it but you know what I will say

that I learned through having a kid that doesn't speak during Halloween that if you're passing out candy don't make them say trick or treat don't make them say trick or treat

how many times every fucking time really every time say trick or treat and he won't say it and it's like it gets to be a little bit uncomfortable. Do you say something? Yeah, do you step in everything?

I am trying really hard to not continue to say things because I think I over-explain Shepard a lot. And even at the grocery store, I'll be like, he has hearing loss. And like, I don't let people just experience him the way he's meant to be experienced. So I'm trying not to do that. But I will say there's a thing at Halloween where they want you to say it and they don't want to give you the candy until you say it. And I think that that is something people are not aware could be affecting different children.

So that's a, that's, yeah, I couldn't imagine telling a kid to say trick or treat. They do. They say trick or treat. Hmm. Do you go in your neighborhood? We went before when we, because we haven't lived here, but when we did before we lived in Candy cane lane. Right. Yeah. So it's in incredible for Halloween. It's awesome. Right. But. So do you not go trick-or-treating? You're just on a hayride? No, we'd trick-or-treating around that neighborhood. That would be so depressing to not go trick-or-cheting. Yeah, I know, I agree. Growing up, Bob Hope would hand out candy at his house in Toluca Lake. He would, like, but proper, like, caramel apples. Young folks might not even know who Bob Hope is, but caramel apples, like, full, you know, the whole deal.

Do you guys get scared? Of what? Scared? No. Costumes? Dude. I hope you do. No.

Of the candy. Oh, no. That's not a thing. That's happened like once. That's not a thing. Like a razor blade and a candy bar? Dude, they just, they just confiscated pounds and pounds and pounds of of skittles, sweet tarts, all of these things laced with fentanyl.

What? Yes. It is a thing. From where? Los Angeles. What do you mean? Like packaged in packages? Yes. These people hide their drugs, shipping and carrying drugs.

Why do you tell me these things? Because we need to know. I don't like knowing this stuff. But that's not like in the stores and accidentally, you're talking about people smuggling drugs through that. Correct. Those drug dealers aren't going to accidentally give it to someone to pass out on Hollywood. Well, that's what I'm afraid of. That's, you shouldn't be afraid of that.

That's what I'm afraid of. You should not be afraid of that. Is that they accidentally pass it out. The drug dealer accidentally passes out $400 of fentanyl to a kid. He cares too much about those drugs to accidentally give them to Elliot. I've considered, because Elliot has allergies. So I already have to like. But also, it's not a skittal like dipped in fentanyl.

He's going to open that and be like, oh, there's fentanyl or cocaine. Skittles. They look like skittles. Guys, that was an article like years ago. I remember that article. This happened this week. I know. I remember seeing that article like a year or two ago.

It's like a scare tactic. No, you guys, this was on the news. But what I'm saying is this. I've considered buying the candy myself and replacing his candy. I'm letting you. I don't think you need to be worried about that. Okay. I'm purposely not paying attention because it's just going to put fear in me

and I don't need that in my brain. All right, let's cleanse it. Please. Let's sage it. Steve? Well, well, I have a question. What? So do you think we should know these things that we,

that people are afraid of and then choose to not be afraid of it? Or would you rather just not know it all? I would rather not know. would rather not know. Yeah, I don't think that, I think you should be more afraid of like driving your kid to school because it's a higher risk of something happening. That's a fair point. During that, then there is getting fentanyl-laced candy on Halloween. I agree. I think, I think, so you don't check your kids candy. How are you going to check it? How are you going to know if it's fentanyl and the candy? Well, making sure everything's sealed and that there's nothing open.

Well, if there's any open candy, because what we do is we always store it our candy, you know, when you get home and you sort it. So you do check the candy. The drug dealers are resealing the candy, too. I'm not doing it to check the candy. We're organizing because I like my brain, my Virgo brain likes to organize candy. But if anything's open, obviously we throw it out. Mm-hmm. But other than that, I'm not like opening, how would you even know?

She's licking every piece of candy. I'm like, let's see if I, yeah. I'm snorting it. Like, sweet tarts. Yeah, I don't think it's helpful to be afraid of that. Like, it's out of your control. And I'm not like walking around in fear about this guys. You seem pretty.

No, but I'm aware of it. And so it does bring pause to them just freely eating the candy. Yeah, but you just said you were going to not let them get candy and bring them their own. I said I've considered it. I think that's being too afraid about it. But he also has allergies. so I'm like I could get him his own special candy and make him feel good about it.

But how many kids on Halloween have died from fentanyl and candy? I don't know. Let's look it up. I was going to say she's going to want to look it up and then know the statistics. And it's going to be like three out of... I just think everything is fear-based as it is. And if you keep adding all this fear,

it's just too much overload. But what do you do when you watch this? Like if you watch the news or if you see something... But I have to know what's going on. I hate that like on Instagram, any news is like negative, you know, like the most... obscure deaths that happened, like a kid, an accident, whatever.

It's all constantly feeding your brain, all of this, you know? And I don't do it on Instagram. Are you watching, like, Fox? What are you watching? I'm watching CNN. Yeah, I would just not watch the news. If you're, if you're going to get sucked in and be afraid of everything. You guys, I'm functioning.

I'm fine. I just might be a little bit more cautious. I'm not like walking around and fear. Can I just help? Rob, let me tell you something. Okay. Olivia is very fear-based and What?

How so? Let me tell my story. Okay. Like she definitely leans into the fear at times. She also doesn't. I know she's pitched us a couple conspiracy theories. Yes. Okay.

Right. We were at a dude ranch. Okay. And like just like, just like, just Olivia gets on her horse with her helmet, safe, of course. Nobody else is wearing a helmet. I mean, you should wear a helmet on a horse. I did. For sure.

Emily did. Emily did. Yeah. But it'll be. You just see her fear. Like, oh, what's the horse doing? Well, he was sketchy, dude. He was going out of the line.

Like, everyone else's was like, and mine was like, you could feel your fear. He could feel her fear. You guys. Absolutely. What was yours? Tron, Troy? Trauma. Zorro.

I want to argue that because I'm not fear-based. Okay, sorry. I didn't say that right. That's not right. Which is very fearful. Uh, where? She's overly cautious. I'm cautious.

No, but you're not comfortably cautious. You're overly cautious. You're like neurotically fearful. You're wrong. You're wrong. Here's the thing, guys. I like information. And I like to know.

know what's going on in the world. I like to know different things. I like to know what will happen if you do certain things. But you know the way like certain information is presented is not, it's not valuable to take it in like that. I'm not, you guys, I'm not like crying on the street. I mean like, don't give your kids candy. I'm just saying I might check it or I might replace some of it. Right. But you're also not going to. How do you know what to replace? That's my point though. It's like, great. How do you know what to replace? Well, if anything's opened, I do check their candy. I check their candy.

That it's not open. Yeah. Right. Yeah. But you're not like opening the bag and you have some special tool to see if it's... She's got stripped tests that she's... No. I'm just trying to figure out how you're going about it, I guess is my... I just make sure that nothing's been opened. Yeah. Do you check for, like, needle marks?

I used to check for, like, feel... Needle marks? Yeah, I used to feel... That's the other like... That's what I was taught as a kid. I know, but it's not happening. I understand, but I was taught that as a kid to check for needles in your candy. This is stressing me out.

And razor blades. See, here's the difference. Yeah. This is the difference. She'd rather not know anything and just go blindly, whereas I like to know too much. Right. That's fair. I don't think that's serving you.

And I don't think that's serving you. Serving her. Somewhere in the middle. Somewhere in the middle. Somewhere in the middle. Yeah, I think just some of the stuff you see and read maybe needs to be reframed a little bit. Because, like, if you're watching the news, they're trying to get people to watch.

I understand. They're intentionally trying to scare you, get you to. I get it. And I have to reject so much of it because I live with people and have people in my family and all of that who go so deep into it that I'm like, No, it's fine. Like, I don't need to spend my days focused on that. Like, I can take my kids to school, all of that.

But I definitely tend to take it in as far as, like, do I feel all the way comfortable taking my kids to school? No. Like, there's places where I go where I don't feel necessarily comfortable in big crowds and stuff like that. Well, Ann, do you think 9-11 was an inside job? Stop it. I'm not a conspiracy. theory person. I'm Illuminati,

you know. Okay. Thanks for listening. See you guys next time. I think we need to clear that energy of that. Okay. Yeah. I've got some Halloween relationship advice questions. Okay, great.

Halloween specific? This should be good. Me, 30-year-old female and my boyfriend, 37 male, want a baby, but he won't compromise on Halloween. What does that mean? This is a question to parents with young kids. We've been together for three years and are at the point where we are starting to think about having a baby.

However, there's one issue that keeps coming into my mind and I'd love to get some advice on. He is completely against Halloween and has said he won't want children to celebrate it. It's not a religious thing. It's more of a cultural thing. His parents are Jamaican and his mother didn't let him celebrate it when he was younger. He says we shouldn't be celebrating death and devils. he says it's the only thing he isn't willing to compromise on.

The problem is I'm a huge fan of Halloween and always have been. If we do have children as a parent, do you think not allowing your child to celebrate Halloween would have a detrimental impact on the child? It's really difficult because I feel like it's a minor thing now, but something is telling me that it's important to really think about it. Well, everything's important to think about before you venture on down the road. With a partner.

I mean, I'm of two minds. One, it's, like, you know, if there's one compromise and everything else is great, and maybe she can meet them in the middle. But I also understand, like, loving Halloween. And for me, it's like if you have a kid, you can separate from, like, any maybe religious outlet or whatever it is and just be like, your kid gets to dress up. You go trick-or-treating for candy, and it's not.

Yeah, don't dress up as a skeleton or devil. And dress up as a Pokemon. And I wonder if people, once they have kids, might be more understanding, like, oh, well, it's not this thing. I see that the friends are doing it and they really want to participate. I don't know. What do you think? I think the tricky thing is that it's a cultural thing for the husband. Yeah, he's not going to budge probably.

Where I will say when you have kids, though, like having kids, even with, like, Christmas, I was kind of in the mindset of, like, lying to them about this seems weird. And about Santa, you mean? Yeah, and maybe not playing along to that. But then when you see how much happiness it brings a kid to believe in that stuff, it's hard to just squash it. Right. Yeah, but it's also, to me, it comes down to the belief system. And if this person's belief system is that it's wrong, even if a kid would extract joy from it. Like, for instance, I have a hard line on gun games.

Like, I'm not down with the video games. that are shooting, period. Like a lot of people would probably argue that it's good fun and the kids love it and, you know, the majority of kids that my sons are going to go to school with are going to be allowed to play it. I have a hard line because it goes against my values. So if his values are such that it's a celebration of the devil,

then you really have to be, the question is, are our values aligned? Do you want to honor that for him if it's that important to him? Are there other ways that you can have your child dress up and get candy that are not on that day where you can make it up to them and do something extra special and different to kind of compromise? That's what I think. Waiting until the veil's a little thicker. Yeah. But like I kind of respect the fact that he's like that doesn't fit culturally for me.

I think you're allowed to have that. Like, yeah, I mean, you have to respect if they're just like, this is my one non-negotiable. You have to. Yeah, and I think it depends on like, is this a super religious man in relationship? Or is it just that he thinks Halloween's wrong? And then... Right. I've questioned that it's quite bizarre.

Especially when you go out there and you see all these, like, dark costumes and, like, I'm walking down the street and there's like Jason. And it's my favorite holiday, though? Yeah. Yeah, it's fun. It's fun. It's my favorite. I mean, I love Halloween because Breyer's a Halloween baby.

Her birthday is two days before Halloween. Or, yeah, 29th. So I love the time. It's two days before. It's two days. Yeah, you got it. I know, but it just seems like less because it's like her birthday and then one day and then Halloween, but it's two days.

You just get rid what I'm thinking? Yeah, it's like probably 36 hours away. Anyways. I love Halloween. But yeah, I think about like going to like Halloween horror nights. They're not scary. and where you're walking through like the scariest mazes and these horrific monsters are jumping.

But I love it. I don't. And I like scary things. I like just scares like that. I think it's fun. It's funny. Like when they chase you, it's so scary. It's so scary.

I also don't think you're going to like bring your six year old to that. No. Mine would like it. But when they're older. Or when you bring your four-year-old on like the scariest rides. We did it again. We did it again And we're probably going to do it again on Friday

What was the one that you did recently again? I forget It was at Universal Studios It was something Yeah, it was something Was it Jurassic World or I don't know Guardians of the Galaxy? No, we did Guardians of the Galaxy

That was the first one But yeah, you did something scary And he was like, what the fuck? Yeah, he said stop Stop doing this to me Stop, stop, stop Was it Harry Potter? He, I

He did Harry Potter. I think he was fine. I think it was like a roller coaster. It was like Jurassic, like where you're like going and dropping and... Jurassic Park you drop. I think it was Jurassic Park. Then he has no say in the matter. He's just like, come on.

You got to stop the shit, Mom. Poor Shepherd. Oh my God, that's really funny. Oh, gosh. Guys. Do you want another question? What's your favorite? Yeah, one other question.

I was just going to say, what's your favorite? favorite Halloween costume you've ever. Do you remember? Olivia and I were such assholes. I believe it. Like when we were like 20. Yeah. We wouldn't let anybody else dress up what we were dressing up as. Like everyone was going to be baseball players, but like, you know the phase when you were

like, oh, and be like a sexy baseball player. We were. Yeah, I loved that phase. Oh, my God. We were young and whatever. And her and I were like, no, only Olivia and I get to be Yankees. And everyone else had to pick something else and everybody wanted to be a Yankees. Yeah, and we were like, no.

No one. We're the Yankees. Yeah. Yeah. I've probably had that picture somewhere. We do. I think we've posted it. Oh.

I think we've posted it. It's surprised you remember that. I do because there's a picture of it. Photographic memory. Well, that's all you're remembering is the photo. Yeah. No, she remembers the time too. We were at a party.

Sorry, I can. Anyways, we can. Me, 26 male, X, 25 female, locked me out of my bedrooms. So I broke up with her. Now everyone says I'm overreacting. Help. Wait, lot? Well, I'm going to read.

Okay. That's just the headline. Oh, got it. So me and my ex dated about a year and a half now. Things were pretty easy going up until now. I really needed a little bit of help to see if I'm being unreasonable. My ex-girlfriend and I got into a mild argument basically surrounding our Halloween plans. She wanted to go out and I did not.

I told her that she is more than welcome to go out, but going out into that many people would only stress me out. I have agoraphobia. Oh. So I'll be watching horror movies on the couch that night. She got pissed at me for not letting her have input and what to do for Halloween, which I would understand if we were spending it together, but we don't have to anyway, so what's the issue? After that, she kept trying to get me to agree to go out, but I refuse.

Finally, she screams at me that I'm on the couch tonight and slams my bedroom door behind her. Wouldn't let me in my own bedroom all night. My girlfriend does not live here. She spends the night, but she has her own space. I would consider doing what she did just not out of the question, but deeply disrespectful and toxic. So in the morning, I sat her down and explained that while the Halloween issue was blown out of hand, I was going to be ending the relationship because it did not feel respected anymore.

No. She was nearly hysterical asking if I was serious that it wasn't a big deal in all kinds of other stuff. I wasn't expecting that my other friends were agreeing with her. saying that the girl dumping down the couch is just part of having a girlfriend. So I'm just overreacting. My family is on my side. My dad even laughed when I told him the story. But basically, other than my dad, my brothers and my stepmom, everyone thinks it was too much.

So I guess I'm asking for help recognizing if I did overreact. I do know I tend to get a little harsh when it comes to things I view as disrespectful. So I'm hoping to hearing other opinions. Go ahead. I mean. No, you go. first. I think that she wanted to go out and wear something sexy. That's what she wanted to do. And she wanted her man with her. And I remember that feeling of like you want your guy to like dress up

with you and like be part of it because there's so much anticipation about that night. Got it. You're disappointed. Bummer. Her locking him out of the bedroom, I think could have been forgivable if when he talked to her about it, that she owned the fact that that was inappropriate of her to do instead of diminishing it and making it seem like it's nothing, because then that's basically saying, like, I'm going to keep doing toxic behavior. Right. That's my thought. And he also, though, went, he went from zero to ten pretty immediately by breaking up with her

rather than... It was a little extreme. Yeah, I think there had to be something else behind it. you do if you if you flip that quick you want to look at that yeah or if you have other resentments that you're carrying and you let that be the thing that drives the wedge yeah nail in the coffin yeah pun intended but um your thoughts yeah same i knew she was going to say it very eloquently same same same's what she said all right well that was fun that was fun no i mean it was extreme but i think there was something else going on yeah you know have you

ever made a partner sleep on the couch or slept in a different space? I'm sure. But like when I was young, like a high school relationship, I feel like, probably. I also have no memory, so. What about you? Yeah, for sure. Recently? Made?

No. But like, has Jeff gotten mad or I got mad and gone and slept in a different room? Yeah, right. You guys also sleep in different rooms off. Do you do that? No. You guys haven't gotten mad and slept in a different room where she hasn't put you on the couch? No.

Do you fight? Yeah, do you fight? Yeah. But like fight, fight or just kind of like bicker? We don't like yell at each other. Right. But it would get annoyed at one another. Do you go by the philosophy of you shouldn't go to sleep mad?

Like never go to sleep mad? I don't really care. Do you? Because that's a thing a lot of people stick to is like just don't go to sleep mad. I'm definitely gone to sleep mad. Same. Yeah. I think that that's an unrealistic.

I do too. Like it's a good one and I believe it should be that way, but many times I've gone to sleep man. Here's what I've learned about it is that I used to go by that and be like, we can't go to sleep mad. But then I've realized you were really mad. Through therapy, no, I'm never the mad one. Usually I'm not.

Right. You know, so what I've learned is I want to push my agenda before he's ready. And I want to go in the cave and poke the bear. And it's like he may need that time to just be left alone. And I used to make it worse by being like, we can't go to sleep bad. We have to deal with this, this moment. Yeah, but he needs a half hour to cool down. Yeah.

Sometimes he needs to just go to sleep. Yeah. So fuck that. Yeah, I'm with you. Yeah. But I also can like be Matt. whatever, but I also can get to a place no matter what the fight, where I'm like, I'm just going to go to sleep.

Like, it'll not be bothered. Does that make sense? I can fully detach. She's like, I'm disassociative. I'm just like, can detach. Yeah, I can detach. I'm sure it depends on what it is, but I can detach pretty easily. To a fault.

It's healthy. It seems unlikely. I don't know. It's healthy, guys. It's healthy, I promise. It doesn't seem like you. You can detach. Like I detached from this conversation 10 minutes ago.

See, I can't. I'm like, I got to fix this. I think if I'm in a fight, I can detach and go to sleep because I can get myself to like not want to deal with it and just like tune it out because I don't want to deal. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. So you don't have deep rooted abandonment issues that if you don't fix it, your life is going to blow.

I don't either. I just, yeah. I have those. I can just fully detach. I abandon myself. I just turn up my emotions. Do you ever feel that? Do you ever get scared?

Like, if I push it too far, like Natalie would leave me or do you have full trust in your relationship? I have pretty full trust. Hmm. Interesting. Interesting. Do you think she does in you? Yeah, I think so. You guys are just solid.

That's cozy. Soly. That sounds so safe. That's cozy. So crazy. Yeah, I don't know. I don't think I have that. I think Jeff's someone that, like, you could push him.

Yeah. You know. Yeah. I also think that's why I try and make sure you don't. Yeah. I'm always on Jeff's side. Yeah. She's always like, oh, well, just go get him a sandwich.

Yeah. I'm like, I just told you what he said. She's like, go. Just go, go, go get him a pair of cozy. sucks. Oh, God. Well, guys. You can do the honors now.

Yeah. Take us out. Thank you. Thanks for everything. Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween. Hope everyone has a happy, safe Halloween. Yeah.

Make sure you check all of your candy. I can check your candy. Hey. Guys, you're making me feel down. Aw. We're only telling you. We're not. Shaming you.

Yeah, we're not turned to shame. That's a little shaming. No. No. We want. You're doing it now. She said no, bitch. I just don't want you to waste fear on it.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah. That's a much more nurturing approach than. No. No. No, I'm not fucking shaming you. No.

No. Yeah. No, that's fucking stupid. Oh, my God. Happy Halloween. Happy Halloween. Check your candy. That was a headgum podcast.