Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - Chace Crawford

Episode Date: August 29, 2022

This week, Rachel and Olivia giddily welcome Chace Crawford [Gossip Girl, The Covenant, The Boys] to the podcast! Chace shares his thoughts about his superhero/villain character “The Deep�� and what it was like having TV sex with an octopus, the fandom differences between The Boys and Gossip Girl, growing up religious and more. Rachel clears the air from a 15 year-old (almost) scandal with Chace and the three debate how to say common words. Enjoy!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Hello. Once again, I am Rachel Wilson. I'm Olivia Allen. Rob. And I'm Rob. Silent Rob instead of silent Bob. Okay. That's good.

So Chase Crawford is with us today. Obviously known Gossip Girl. We share that. Josh Schwartz and Stephanie Savage did the OC and Gossip Girl. And he is now on The Boys, which is super popular and amazing show. And I was so happy that he agreed to sit down and chat with us. And boy, was I happy. Anyway, let's get to the interview with the lovely Chase Crawford.

Sometimes when the one's sick inside of Rachel's little brain, all these thoughts are swirling round and round inside. To join us on this journey as we take a little ride. We'll talk about dogs and kids and things. We'll talk about chicks and tampon strings. We'll talk about boys that are... Because people die. You guys all got Maroo coffee.

Or like machetees or something. We did. Well, Rob last time didn't get me one and he got Rachel one. And it's like a big fight. Like, literally she was in the other room and she walks out and I had one. And she was like, what the fuck, Rob? Yeah. It wasn't right.

And then so he walks in today with these and I was like, you didn't get Chase one? Like, what the what is Rob? And he's like, I just got Chase's number. He wanted, by the way, he wanted your number and to be in contact. But I was like, no, Rob. I'm talking to Chase. That's very nice. Yeah, no, I said, yeah, you're more than welcome to hit me.

But I'm so over-caffeinated today anyway. It's all good. So are we. Who knows what's going to happen? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Chase, so happy you're here. Obviously, I've known you a very long time. Olivia just met you today.

Feels like a long time. It feels like a long time. I went in for the hug. I was like, hey, we're family. That's right. But the one thing I will say about you, which I think is everybody's same, everyone would agree that knows you, is you are probably the nicest human on the planet. That's very, that's very nice. Josh Schwartz's like, you know, I was like, Chase is coming on.

He's like, oh, man, that's the sweetest guy in the world. I'm just an asshole at home in the mirror and to myself. So dark at home. Here comes a sweet, just dick face. Two face, yeah. But it is true. And anytime I see you, you are always so wonderful and nice. And even over text when I'm harassing you to come here.

You handled it with grace. You did not harass me. It's so good to see you again. Yeah. It's been ages. So, yeah. It's been so long. And I was talking to Olivia the other day because I remember this was probably, dude, I don't even know.

maybe 12 years ago, 13 years ago, there was a time in my life where I was like on a break from my boyfriend at the time. And my friend, Nicole, I don't know if you remember her, was on a break. I do actually. Yeah, that's right.

That's right. And we were all in New York together and like we were all hanging out and stuff. And Nicole and I like silently to ourselves were like battling for like Chase's attention. Okay. For your attention. We were like silently like not saying anything.

But we were like totally vibing each other. And I'm like trying to like cock block her and she's trying to like cock-block me. That's hilarious. I did not pick up on any of that. She's probably going to kill me from saying this. Maybe she'd be like, I didn't do that. And like it was just in my head, but it wasn't.

We were at like the, they call like the boom-boom room, right? Like the top floor that would have the great cheeseburgers. I don't even know if it's around anymore. But do you remember that? For sure. That's the top of the standard. I was going to say we were at the standard. Yeah, yeah.

We were literally, and she nicknamed you Chase Bank. And she was like calling you that the whole time. And we were totally for sure in competition. for you. And I remember, and this is something I've always wanted to tell you. So I remember at the time, like, you know, the press kind of wanted to like,

I guess someone like saw us talking or something. And like the press went with, oh, did Rachel and Chase hook up or whatever? You know, my publicist came to me with it. And at the time, because I was like on a break from my serious relationship, I was like, dude, you have to kill this rumor. Like, oh my God.

Because there can't be out there. And I freaked out. And so even to this day, he did that. And I remember like, oh, that's fucked up. Because in the press, it's like, her publicist denies all the everything. Like, it's absolutely not true. And I was like, that's so mean.

So they printed it, but then they denied, like, they try to deny it. They, like, printed it, but it had like a quote from like my publicist. Like, this is completely fabricated and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, wait, that's so mean. I would never want to do that to chase. Like, thank you. So you're so nice. No, I didn't even realize all this went down.

But, but no, I would have been. But I remember the time. I'm like, oh, that sucks. Like, no, but there was a reason. And so I'm happy. get to clear the air here. I would be thrilled. I thought we were dating. Okay. Yes. Yes. Yeah, but I get to clear the air here. Like, maybe 15 years later, I don't even know. It's crazy. Oh, yeah, it was 15 years ago. That was but New York was so much fun back. I don't even know if the boom boom room was still around,

but that was a great night. Yeah, we all had a blast. I remember Nicole. Yeah, that was a good time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She might kill me. Sorry, Nicole. Sorry, Kevin. Fine. I mean, married forever. And this is like, I remember being worried about, like, camera phones and the, like, the first iPhone was kind of out. But, Now there's like Instagram and like, you worry about so much other stuff. Yeah. It can be up instantly. People can know where you are. Like, it's totally different things.

But was Instagram around when gossip girl started? No, not when it started. It kind of came like late, I think. And I was really, I'm too cool for that kind of stuff. I'm not going to be doing that shit. Like I'm like, you know, but then I'm like, wow, people are, you know, making money on this. Yeah. And, you know, you know, join it as an actor to promote stuff.

So, yeah, it's like a weird, weird thing there. Sure. I remember I was late to the game too because I was like, no, this feels weird, you know, like, and I never joined Twitter or whatever. But then it is a big part of it, and it's kind of part of your job in a sense. Right. Which is bizarre. But it wasn't as big a thing, and it definitely wasn't a thing when the OC started. So we didn't have to deal with that.

Right. Nowadays, like you're saying, like, that Dumois website, like, I don't even know what. I don't know how it works, but I, you know. Do you know this? Dumois. I've, like, seen a couple things, but I don't follow it. Bob's a big fan of Dumas. I have no idea with that. But don't you feel like because of Instagram and all of that,

that the kind of lore of knowing people's business has kind of died down a bit because everyone's just like, here's my business. Like, it's not like when you were young and we would go places and there'd be like massive amounts of paparazzi that we would have to like hide from literally. You guys shot in L.A. too, obviously. Yeah. Yeah. Interesting experience.

like in the thick of it here. Literally. It was like, as well though. I feel like, you know, paparazzi's everywhere there too. I guess so.

I just, yeah, we could, I felt like we could hide out a little bit more. But yeah, it does, it does make you paranoid in a way,

right? I mean, it kind of makes you like, guarded, right? Your guards kind of always up. But yeah, there's that balance of being an actor

and feeling like that pressure to like, I guess I got a post now. You do a project and they, you know, they email you with all the assets and stuff. It feels kind of,

you know, inauthentic. But, yeah. It's like Rob pressuring us to post for broad ideas all the time. Like, it's super awkward. Rob, yeah, he's just serious. I can tell. He's a real.

This cuts intimidating. I know, right? But that's kind of all, whenever I look at Instagram, I'm like, what am I looking at? I'm looking at people market their lives, even if it's not an actor, even if it's a mom. Right. I'm like, all they're doing is selling me something. Yeah. Right?

So now we're all in on it. We're like, everyone's. selling something on Instagram. Right. Right? I mean, whether it's yourself or like a version of yourself or like your voice or however you want,

I don't know how people find. They're like their content. Content voice. Yeah. What's your content voice? I don't know. It's probably very inauthentic. My page is full of like bicycles and coffee machines.

You know what I mean? You have a beautiful voice. You do. It's a speaking voice. It's very deep. Yeah, Rich is a good word for it. Thank you. Yeah, I knew it, but I haven't heard it in a long time.

I'm trying to do my voiceover, get my voiceover in the world. I don't think you'll have a problem. But, you know, for me, the whole Instagram thing, like, I find, because everyone's putting their whatever, their best version forward. And you're like, oh, my God, they look so happy and they have it all together. And I'm like, this is making me feel really shitty. Yeah. It does.

Yeah. Sometimes. You know, it's programmed to, like, be super addicting. And it's like a slot machine. you just kind of like get addicted to this thing. And it's, it's like programmed to do that. Right.

Yeah. But yeah. But yeah. But, you know. I have to take breaks. Yeah. And I do. I do.

I do. I have to really be intentional about not clicking that fucking button. You know, it's, it's. Yeah. Did you say yours is mainly like cycling, like bicycles? Yeah. I was like bicycles and like coffee machines and like espresso.

Wait, what kind of coffee machine? Oh boy. Here we go. No, I will go there. I really will. I have a problem.

But. I mean, I really do you with coffee? No, I know. Yeah, what's your coffee routine? I got, like, heavily, like, I'm sure a lot of people did in the pandemic. Mine was probably maybe pre-pandemic, but I got, like, really into, like, I mean, now I have, it looks like a transformer on my counter ready to, like, transform into, like, a robot. So it's like a full espresso.

I'm, like, knee-deep into the geek forest on it now. Yeah, like, very far into the geek forest on this now. But, uh... I appreciate it. Yeah, it's a full. I got a massive grinder that shouldn't be. allowed to be on the counter. It is a burr grinder, actually.

Listen, Icahash actually was on with that. I just thought of this. I listened, I was very intimidated coming here because I think I was following up, or close to following up, IACASH. So I listened to her whole interview, and it was amazing. She was so cool.

Who's cool than IACCHAS? I mean, so cool. And obviously, you worked with her on the boys. And she was awesome. I didn't know that much about her, so meeting her and talking to her. And we really got into bougie coffee. I remember that.

now that's right she was cracking me up about that she's got a burr grinder too yeah she's really hip and does the pour over yeah yeah yeah i know i got her she's like intimidatingly hip right right right where you're like i'm not as cool as you i always want to i'm literally i want to aspire to be as cool as i like and speaking of content you know she'll have like this instagram post of her like in this cool hip outfit under an ATM that just says cash above it i'm like that's the content i want to do right i'm not that cool i need to change my name to cash i can't do that exactly Chase Bank. Chase Bank.

I can just take them in front of a Chase Bank. You'd see if that's going to be cool. But your name's Christopher, right? That was your born name. So why'd you, what happened? They always called me Chase. They wanted me, actually,

it was going to be chance, and then they dropped the end for some reason, which is, why. No, right just before, actually. This is why it's spelled weird. And then my dad's name is Chris. So he wanted me to have this first name, but it was always,

I always went by Chase. But people do think I like was that guy who were like, changed your name and spelling because who's, yeah, who's the Miss Chase with the C. Because you're cruel. I'm like, no. It's a good name. Thank you.

Yes. Thank you, you guys. Okay. So that, there's no, they just called you. There's nothing there. Yeah. All right. Okay.

And cycling. Cycling is the other thing. So, like, do you do marathons? No, not, not really. I did, like, I try, like a short triathlon for charity and that got me heavily into cycling. Really? Yeah.

Yeah. How'd you do? I did okay. I mean, we were sort of like with, like, you know, they put us with like the celebrity group was kind of like the slow group like not the you know who is in the celebrity group with you oh my buddy like jeff stoltz i don't know if you know jeffs i think zach effron was there one year just kind of a random mix of people yeah okay and we just yeah but you beat them all of course i mean uh no i can't even remember what i finished but i was just i was just trying to finish and i did good for you without

injuring myself we're pulling a hammie so no pulling to the hamby you know yeah i didn't pull a hammie or have to you know tap out but it was uh it was uh it was Good. Okay. So it's just like a hobby for you. You enjoy it and you exercise with it. This is like, this is what I want to know. I think like, oh, yeah, like, I think when you turn over, when guys turn past 35, heading to 40, it's like either like coffee, cycling and like World War II history. And then that's like the tri-sacatory. Is that another thing you're super into? I'm on the cusp of that cliche. Yeah. Okay. Well, when you get there, I'd like to know more about that. So when you hit 40 and you're studying all World War II history. Yeah. Reading Winston Churchill books. Yeah. That'll be fun.

You let me know. Okay, so I want to go back a little. So, you know, Gossip Girl in New York, were you in New York already? For Gossip Girl, did you move there for it? No, we moved there for it. Yeah. And it was so expensive. Me and Ed Westwick had played Chuck on the show.

We're like, do you want to, like, should we get a place together? Like, things are really... You guys were roomy? For two years. That's so cute. Yeah. It was kind of cute. It was a lot.

It was a lot. Yeah. I mean, we were, you know, like, 21 and just a lot of house parties and just, you know, exciting to be in you know it's a lot that's a lot because it's also a small shoebox i mean it's basically the size of this this room you know it was interesting yeah were you guys single too at the time we were at the time yeah yeah oh man so if you're used single now also we also edit everything oh right if there's anything you say that you want to take out no no no it's all good you know like if i

ask anything it's live it's actually live yeah i always like to say that because i like to ask some she's a real inquisitive person i'm a very inquisitive person and i don't want anyone to feel uncomfortable and be like you ask me that now it's fucking weird like she's gonna ask like what your dick sizes is the world's already asking that okay the world's already asking that after that picture of you came a whole weird thing with that which cracks me up well what what because like honestly chase i hadn't seen you and then all of a sudden like it was blasted everywhere and i was like what am i looking at like chase first of all was in like a scale of unitard with like the biggest dick I've ever seen in my life.

And I was like, huh. Holler at your girl. Do I still have to snubber yet? But no, it was just like, what is happening? What was funny about it? The show hadn't come out yet. And it's such a wild show. No one really knew what to expect.

And so that came out. I was laugh because I'm having to like, mom, dad, it's like, it's a crazy show. Like, my grandpa, like, it's just, just trust me. You'll get it when you see the show. But no, I mean, in Eric, The creator was like, never tell the truth. Just roll with it.

Just act like it's all real. But no, it was like Seth Rogen and Evan Goldberg produce it behind the scenes and they were really heavily involved in getting it going and whatnot. And they just thought it would be really funny if the deep, you know, he's the satirical, you know, making fun of this. If it goes deep. If he had a raging erection, like every third time

that we see him on screen. So that's amazing. So I walked into like the costume, you know, it's way before the, the suits even done. And there was just a carton of like, they had it like taped little deeps. And it was just all these different foam, directional.

Did you pick the winner? We did pick a winner. Well, you sure did pick a winner. Yeah. And yeah, and I guess they had no notes the whole time. Like Amazon left us alone. And then I showed up on set for the first day. And it was me introducing like Aaron Moriarty's character Starlight on stage

with like 2,000 extras out there. And they're like, action. And I get out there. And everyone just starts dying last. Like the entire, and we were all laughing. It was so funny. I mean, it was just out. So, way too obvious.

And then Amazon called right away. And we're like, let's, we got to remove. We got to remove that. Aw, man. I was about to say, I didn't notice that. They CGIed it out. Okay. And then, but one, we did some early photo shoot.

Is there a director's cut? There's a director's cut. They made this photo shoot made it in and then made the thing. And then, yeah. And it went everywhere. And it went everywhere. It was really, really got a big kick out of that. Yeah.

They got way worse. let all that other stuff happen? Season 3. Yeah, exactly. Rob's the big fan. But it's not that different, you know, whatever. It's not like that different. Like, whatever.

They modeled it after something. Yeah, right. It wasn't like that crazy. But that definitely sounds like the mind of like Seth Rogen, like, yeah, let's just give them a really big erection. See if people notice it. We're like, people are, yeah, people notice. They noticed.

They noticed. Yeah, yeah. Amazon noticed right away. It was great. They should have removed. Well, whatever. It's still out there for the world to live through. Not through.

What? It's still in the universe. There's a calendar somewhere. There's a calendar somewhere. Yeah. Open the closet. And we have. It's right here actually.

Wow. It's really weird. That's from 2018. That's right. I wanted you to come today. Anyways, it's getting really hot in here. But it's so cool. So you have this success of this show that

people are fucking crazy about. Like, is this a whole new kind of fandom for you? Is it different from Gossip Girl? Like, what's the experience like? It is different from Gossip Girl. And to be honest, I'm really enjoying it. Like, I'm really enjoying some of the different, like, demographic reactions. Like, there's just be like, you know, guys at, like, the gym or some are kind of embarrassed.

Like, hey, man, like, can I take a picture? I don't want to. I'm like, this is really funny. And, you know, and then it'll be like a guy at TSA is kind of like eyeing me down, you know? And I'm like, I'm like, what do I have anything on me? You know? The day, baby, you know, he gives me a big hug. It's just a different sort of thing.

It's a lot of fun. So I am going to binge the boys. Like, it's on my list. And I have a kid. So obviously my TV time is like, you're waiting to watch with her? Well, yeah. Well, she wants to see it. But is it true?

Do you have sex with, like, sea creatures? Is that true? Save it for fucking Mary Kill. This, this past season was interesting. Yeah, I was actually a little bit. I have a line. There's a line somewhere. And the day before shooting, this one, you know, particular scene, I was, like, calling up Kripke. Like, what are the camera angles, man?

What are they going to be? I just got to know. We can't do this. We can't do it from the sign. Like, I need, like, I can't. It's bestiality, man. How are they allowing this to happen? It was, it was. Wait, do you show your ass? Like, are you showing parts of you? I did. I think I did. I think he's wrong. I'm just referring to Rob. Yeah. You have seen it. I sent you a photo. You sent me a photo of Chase's ass? Yes. Well, that was. With the octopus wrapping around. Oh, like, yeah.

I mean, look, we all have asses. You know what I mean? Yours might look better than some of ours, but it's not like... I mean, I imagine that's pretty good suction if it's an octopus. Like, I get where they're going with it, right? I kind of did, too. When I saw it, I was like, that's not the worst. It was like a massive thing, too.

I'm like, wow, that's a, yeah, that's a large... You're like, Mom, Dad. You said your grandparents, too, so you're close to your whole family. Are you just, like, mortified, or it's just they know what's up. I was, but they kind of... I mean, at this point, they at least get the show. And the very first episode, the very first scene, it already shown my ass in that scene.

So I wasn't actually worried about that again, but I was worried about the octopus stuff, obviously. But they just were like, okay, yeah, it's great job. Was it all CGI or was it an actual, like, did you have? I thought it was going to be all CGI. It was an octopus necklace, kind of. It was like this wrapped around, and it was like 50 fucking pounds. And it was a lot.

It was a lot to deal with. I mean, it was like, it kind of had this, like, Like kind of bent around me and I'm like just feeling so like violated. And, uh, but no, it was, it was fine. It was, it was, it was good. How do you feel when you go into the ocean now? I don't. I'm PTSD.

Yeah. It's a weird. Yeah. It's kind of like a weird thing now. It's crazy. But, uh, yeah. Do you, do you have sex with more than an octopus? Like, is it a thing?

Is it a theme? There's like lots of sea creatures that you have intimate relationships with? No, that's, no. That's your only girlfriend. Multiple octopi. Multiple octopi? There were, yeah. I had to eat Timothy, rest of the piece.

You had to excuse me? It was like... I think I need to watch this show. Have you never eaten an octopus? Oh, right. That's a thing. Excuse me? Yes, that's right.

It was a different, yeah. It was kind of the lead-up to that. It was like a loyalty test from a character, Homelander, but, you know, but Cripke was really funny. You called me, I was like, man, this is the time to play it really straight. you're really in love with this octopus. That's your mystery. I'm in a real relationship with a human.

He's like, this is your secret mistress. This is a real thing. You're in love with this, with the Ambrosius. So, yeah. He can talk to them. That's his superpower. Do you hear them talk? They say your name?

Yeah, she doesn't know that. They say your name and you're fucking them. What was that? Yeah, yeah. But no one else can hear it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. That's what happens. That's what happens.

Yeah. This is so, I mean, you know. This is good. Having never seen it, you know, from me just like exploring all this, I'm like, okay. On paper, it's super weird, but interesting. It's very weird, yeah. It's not even the weirdest part. That's not even the weirdest part.

It gets weirder. You think so? That's actually kind of what saved me. I thought this was going to be like the weirdest thing, and it's really not. I mean, yeah, the tiny. Yeah, the opening scene of the season one. Yeah, that's right. That's right.

Yeah. Are you going to share what you're talking about? No. No, you got to watch the show. That one, you've got to watch the first episode of the season. I watched a screener of that before they had the, like, CGI. Right. And it was the weirdest thing to watch.

But they built like an inner tunnel, right? Yeah, yeah. But the graphics were great. It was really weird to watch. It's really good, Rachel. Oh, man. No, I know. No, I know. It's definitely on my mix.

It's a lot. There's been a few shows I've watched over the past few days, and that was one of them. and I watched it with Aya. Oh, you watched it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I was like, okay, you know, I watch a lot of shows. And this one, I was like, I keep watching it. And I keep watching.

I don't need to. Like, I get it now. And now I'm in. In it, so now my husband's watching it. And he's like, I guess I got to start the boys. And I was like, make sure we stay on the same episode. Do you do that? Like, I feel like, yeah, in relationships, like, you can't watch anything without the, like,

Do you get in trouble? Did you answer the question? I'm single right now. I had a girlfriend for a while. And would she like beat your ass if you like watch something without her? And then I think we said each other. I don't know if I sent her. She said we found this like advertisement for these rings that you can wear.

What? The thing is that somehow linked up to your we didn't do this. It was a joke. Okay. No, I'm not that crazy. But they, but they link up to your Netflix account and it only unlocks the account if you're like in the same proximity. Are you kidding? You did do that.

I did not do that. I'm not, no, I'm not an annoying crazy question. We have certain shows that we have to watch together. Like what? Right. Yeah, which ones? We watch Peeky Blinders together. Love it.

One of my favorites. Stranger Things. Ozark. Ozark, we watched together too. I got to stop with the kid movies. I think, and the kid TV shows. She doesn't watch the boys, though. She doesn't watch the boys.

That's your thing? Yeah. Yeah, Jeff and I have separate shows that we watch separately, and then the ones that we watch together, someone, I saw a meme the other day that was like, I love you in all these ways, and you're an amazing human, and I would do anything for you,

but don't watch Netflix on my fucking account. Because then it's so feeding you all the stuff that's like, Jeff's like you totally watched Virgin River on my account. You know what? I have a bone to pick with Virgin River. What is it? well, not to go into this too much, but I did a show. Oh, it's like the Heart of Dixie.

It literally copied that show. There was a writer from Heart of Dixie that went and did Virgin River and it's the same show. I've never seen it. What's Heart of Dixie? I haven't seen either. You wouldn't know. No one knows. Sometimes I like like a nice, cozy show where you put it on and you're like, everything's safe.

Like, we're all going to be okay. Not the boys. It's not that show. There's a lot of blood, a lot of stuff going on. Yeah, it's a lot. Am I going to be scared? Because I was going to upload it for like a plane ride, but like, is that not a good idea? Are people going to be looking over my shoulder and like your ass is fucking an octopus?

And they're going to be like, this chick is fucking weird. That's season three. You'll be fine. I won't get there on the plane. Season one is a little more tame. It is? I don't know about tame, is it? Well, I haven't gotten to season three.

So I don't know. Tonight, I'm going to take her through it with me. We're going to want this. What we're doing tonight, Olivia. I will not hold it against you. You know, you give it one episode, two episodes, then you'll, you'll, you'll, understand, and that's all you need to see. Yeah, but we're definitely getting

to season three. We've got to make it to the octopus. Clearly, we're making it to the octopus. Oh, God. And it is octopi, and I had this argument, but apparently you can say octopuses as well. That is acceptable. That's just kind of awkward. It's awkward, obviously, for many reasons. But U.S.

usually goes to an eye when it's plural. Okay, I'm just trying to make it sound like I know some things. But that's just a little fact I wanted to share with you. Another fact I want to share with you, the caffeine, Rob, never again. Yeah, we bring me a bunch of us. We honestly had too much caffeine today. I record.

So, you're, were you born in? I was, yeah. So I've been to Lubbock, Texas. You've been to Lubbock, Texas? A few times. I'm so sorry. Let me tell you, Chase. My high school boyfriend went to Texas Tech.

Okay? You went to Tech? No way. He went to Tech for baseball. I applied to Tech because my boyfriend went there. Of course. Went to a football game. I went out to visit, like many times.

He cheated on me ruthlessly. He's going to kill me for, like, talking about him on the podcast. He's going to love it, too. And the worst food poisoning I've ever got in my life was in Lubbock, Texas. From Shoguns, which is their version of Benny Hanna. Wow. So you can imagine. Habachi grill there.

Yeah. If you go for habocci in the middle of Texas, where all you see is, like, dirt and cows. I mean, it's West Texas. There's nuts flas of pancake. Seems like your fault. a little bit. I'm going to blame him. Not myself. I was taken there. But yes, I spent, I visited quite a few times. Good old Lubbock. Seafood and Habachi and in Lubbock's not really what they're known for. Yeah. That's my memory. That's great that you've been to Lubbock, Texas. I'm a Red Raiders, Texas Tech

fan. Yeah. No way. Yeah, partially. But you didn't, how long did you live in Lubbock? For like one full year. So it was like Lubbock, Oklahoma City a little bit, and then Dallas, Dallas mainly. Yeah, because that's where you grew up. Yeah, it's right. Dallas. Yeah. Okay.

Yeah, I love it. And our best friend Leah came with me to Lubbock, Texas, and we stood on the balcony. Maybe I shouldn't say this. I don't know. You can help me. And we stood on the balcony at the motel. Love this story. And we were like counting how many pickup trucks we could count in a minute.

And we got like over 100 in one minute. Because it's all there is. That's all there is. I shouldn't you. I don't know. Is it like? Do pickup trucks to have pencil. I'm so scared of the car.

You're going to get canceled for that. I'm going to get canceled for calling. Wait, Texas does a lot of pickup. Oh, M. It's always nervous. No. Was the Habachi girl called show then I have to? Yes, it's called show gun.

Because there's definitely only one in Lubbock, but now I got to, I got to look it up. It shouldn't be. Because like it's killing people. Okay. That's great. Can you take over now? I need a minute. I feel like I might need to.

This is the whole show. We could pitch a whole show on this, I feel like. Oh my God. terrible. I think you need to keep guiding this. Yeah, Rob's like, don't take over. Keep going. Like, the largest matcha every single time.

Okay, all right. I can't. We're not used to men. It's like for Rob. You're the second guy. You're only the second guy. Okay, great. Second guy. You're very good looking. We know this.

Listen, guys. It's the truth. So we're like a little bit more giddy with all the caffeine and the good looks and, you know, we're used to Rob. I have my espresso machine. I lie, say it's about ritual. But really, I'm just, yeah, I'm like slamming six shots of espresso a day. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. This is going to be a no for me. Okay? From now on.

I'm literally sweating. Like, I'm not a sweater and I am sweating. Rob's going to be like, we're only going to have guys on this podcast because Rachel actually talks. Yeah. Yeah. The girls here, like, half his sleep. I'm like, I got this. I get to ask all the interesting questions.

I know. She's like, okay. And when you, like, spiritually came to, like, decided. Well, all I can think about is octopus. Yeah. Now it's like crazy. Okay, spiritually came.

I know. And that's all you. Everyone will go to from now on. Okay. So you're about to go and you're going to start season four. Yeah. And stop. You guys are fine.

I'm not going to talk. You guys talk. There was. Yeah. weed in this coffee. Yeah. Clearly we have had edible. Oh my God.

Did you spike us? You didn't hold? Okay. Good. Just a little, just five milligrams, man. So you came out to L.A. from Dallas? Is that for acting? I did.

I came out for college, actually. I went to Pepperdine. You went to Pepperdine? I went to Pepperdine. Yeah. Yeah. Did you like it? I did.

It was a little more strict than I thought. I mean, did like a whole... It was a little bit strict, more strict. Which, like, just academically? No, I mean, like, it was a small school. It was more religious than I thought. It's like, it's no alcohol. You got to sneak some beer in.

Wait, what? In curfews. Like, if you were in a girl's room or vice versa, past, like, 1130 and, like, I forgot what they call on campus cup, could come in with, like, a mad guy. And, like, right, you a demerit from outside the window if they caught you with, like, in another, you know. Which just makes it more fun.

Yeah, you're like, well. Now I got to sneak beer and, like, sneak in the room. Right. makes you want to do it more. I didn't realize it was that religious. I didn't either. Is it Catholic, Christian? It's like, it's like Church of Christ, which is like a very Christian thing. Did you grow up religious? I did. Yeah, kind of grew up in a Christian private, small school and the whole thing. Like going to church every Sunday? Yeah, the whole shebang. Do you still, to this day? Not, no, no. It's just something like. Do you still accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior?

I see that Instagram me. He was like, yeah, like, do you accept Jesus Christ? You're Lord's Savior. Yes. I mean, listen, I mean, you know, yeah. Okay. You think that's cool. My parents are listening, yes. Sorry. Respect to the parents. They probably shouldn't listen to this podcast. Yeah, you know what? The truth of the matter is, they will need to pray.

Speaking of Jesus Christ, I took my kid. A friend of mine called me and she was like, oh, there's healers in town. Right. And my kid has some things. She's like, you need to take him to this healer. I told you there. You're a shepherd? Yeah.

Her youngest son has special needs. He has some things could be very broad. He can't really hear. So she was like, this healer's coming to town. You need to go. So I was like, done. We're going.

I bring my kids. We go. It's a Christian. It's not Joel Olstein. Oh, like a Pentecostal type healer or something? Like someone that's like... Speaks in tongues or something. Yes, but I've never...

It rolls around the ground. Yes. I'd never seen anything like that in my life. life. They were like shaking and screaming and whatever and I That's some deep south shit right there. It was scared. I honestly got scared.

I was like, I don't feel safe. And I turned to my husband and like, are we screen up our kids right now? Like, are they going to have nightmares? Is this traumatizing? You went through with it? Hell yeah. We stayed there and I was like, I'm going to get the blessing.

You know what I mean? I'm fascinated. Now I'm fascinating. I'm like, but Then this woman started like screaming and throwing up. Oh. They were like releasing demons. And I was like, so my husband and I looked at each other and were like, okay, we got to go. And my youngest son about, you know, a month later, he had a stomach ache.

And he's like, why do I still have stomach issues? And I said, well, you know, you still have things going on in your tummy. And he's like, but I thought you healed it at that. that Jesus parade. Oh, no. And I was like, oh, no.

Like, it would never happen again. Yeah, and he's like, why doesn't shepherd here? He was like, I thought you healed it at the God. He was calling it the Jesus and the God parade.

Oh, no. How do you explain that? It didn't work? It didn't. It didn't work? Listen. You mean it didn't work?

Here's the thing. I'm open to, I love all different religions and spirituality, and I think there's beautiful aspects in all. of them, but I didn't grow up like you did in an organized religion. Right, right. So I was kind of...

I mean, I went to Catholic high school and like, but I didn't grow up. My mom was like... Yeah, yeah. Going to India every year and like, now we're going to learn about Hinduism and like my dad's Jewish. Yeah, yeah, I was exposed to a lot of things, which was super cool. Right, right. And my grandmother, though, was very Catholic, very. Oh, you know, church every Sunday, lighting the candles, the whole nine yards.

So, yeah, we're basically have... a lot of exposure, both of us. Yeah, but I still find it interesting. And sometimes I crave that for my kids. She does. She was considering, like, should I be going to church? Yeah. So I'd love to hear what that was like for you growing up with that.

I mean, you know, there's definitely like pros and cons to it. There's definitely, like, you know, good values that you learn through certain, you know, aspects of connecting to it in a real way at that age, but it can also be a bit of a bubble. I mean, I think, you know, Texas suburbia is a bit of a bubble anyway. and I just really wanted to like get out of good experience, at least in California was a big deal for, you know, for me at that age, like to be like, come to California. It was like amazing and I loved it.

But I feel you got to let kids, you know, you can, you know, introduce them to different things and let them sort of come to their own conclusions as opposed to, you know, forcing stuff upon them. But do your parents think that you still go to church every Sunday? Yes, the Pentecostal church. Right. I did it every day at Pepperdine.

No, you know what we did do at Pepperdine, though? We didn't do the Pentecostal stuff, but we sat down. Because I think it was 2003. I mean, no, yeah, 2003. But anyway, but Wednesday nights, the O.C. Oh, boy. And we watched it. Every Wednesday, I was a fan.

Really? Yeah, of course. That's so cute. Yeah. Did you tell Schwartz that when you met him? No. You're telling him now? I'm telling him now.

Love you, Josh. That's so cool. Yeah. The O.C. At Pepperdine. That's a trip. We used to shoot like over there all the time. Did you?

Yeah. Yeah. In Malibu and where Pepperine is. Yeah. That's so funny. Yeah. Who is your favorite character change? Obviously, Summer Cohen.

Yeah. Oh, my married name. Summerco. Summer Roberts. See, I'm a true fan. Oh, and he just corrected it. Okay. You're telling the truth.

Told you. That is so sweet. Yeah. The O. I mean, that's a true. trip. So you knew California was like your goal in Texas. I just don't want to get out to be on. I just want to get out.

So anywhere. I experienced new, like new people and new cultures and, yeah, so anywhere. Pepperdine has a really good hill. It does have a good hill. I've always wanted to roll down it. That's what I was going to say. Jill and I in high school were chaperoning her brother and friends

who were probably on mushrooms. And we, Jill and I went all the way up the hill and rolled down it in the middle of the night. You just wanted to do that. I sure did. I rolled down the pepper-dine hill. So tempting. I mean, every time I drive by it, that's what I think of.

But there were no mushrooms involved. Just sheer excitement. We were the chaperones. Oh, you're the chaperones. Yes. And we rolled down the hill. Yeah. But did you go there for acting or did you go there just to get into acting?

No. Really? How did you get into acting? Yeah. I didn't know what I wanted to do, which is probably, yeah. Were you a surf? Did you surf? Like, was a beach?

None of it. None of it. Nothing to do with California acting. High school was, it was like a prep school and it was all, everything was to get into a good school. I just wanted to get out of Texas for like four years or at least try to experience something different. And when I got there, I just didn't know. I'm like, what do I, what do I do now? I feel like everyone knew exactly what they wanted to do with their life.

Like, they were all these overachievers. And I had like, I just freaked out and like, was like, I need to take a year off and figure it out, right? So I was doing like communications classes and like I switched to business. I had no idea. And then, well, then how did it happen? What? Just, just, oh, acting. He's like, what thing?

No, I... The octopus? I know. And the next thing I know, I got an octopus wrapped around me. I'm in Toronto. I don't even know what I'm doing. I just woke up. So I took a year off or half a year off.

I just took this acting class randomly called Playhouse West. And it was like kind of miser technique. I had no idea what I was doing. But I loved it. It was something different. It was kind of like I was trying to get, you know, out of my shell and just kind of experience new things. And I loved it. Yeah.

And I met some people through that, met like a small agent and started going a few auditions. And they were going well. And I just was kind of going back to school part time. And, you know, naively. So you were working, like, right away. I think I did like a pilot season and got like close to a few things. And again, naively, I was like, maybe I could like try, you know, just try this out. And so, yeah, it was very like I really fell into it.

Just sort of, you know, awesmosis. And then how soon was gossip girl? That was, I think. I did a movie in 2000, a really bad movie in 2005. What was it called? The Covenant with, with, uh, it was like, like a scary movie. Backstreet Boys meets the crafter. It was like these like war-harts.

Were you a backstreet, like a backstreet, like a character? No, it was like four. It looked like a boy band. Were you doing like dancer teens? No, but it probably made it a better movie. We did. I really like was hoping that was part of it. You just pitched a sequel. That's great.

Because that would have been incredible. You're in the sequel. We're doing it. But it was like, it was Taylor Ketch, Sebastian, Stan and a guy named Toby Hemingway, we're all still really close. But we had this great experience. We shot in Canada.

We got paid like nothing, but we thought it was like the most money in the world. Like 18. And then that was the first real experience I had where I was like, oh my God, that was so much fun. You know,

we're all doing, you know, it was like summer camp, obviously. It was like we were having a blast. And then I think I screen tested for Friday night lights. Really?

What character? For Jason Street, the quarterback. Go on. Yeah. Corner. Yeah. Oh,

you work this guy. I love Scott. Yeah, he's the best. Yeah, yeah. And yeah, yeah, he looked. He had that Tom Brady look. Yeah, he was good. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah. That was such a good show. So you tested for that. I was devastated. I didn't get that because I'm from Texas, obviously, thought, you know. Oh, yeah. That would have been like a perfect fit. Yeah, the world was ending.

I didn't get that. And then gossip girls was the next year. Okay. So everything happens for a reason. Yeah, yeah. Right? Yeah. Do you believe in that?

I do. I do. Yeah. I mean, that's probably proof. No. I. And I'm always, I'm just always still so, like, thankful for that whole experience. Like, it was amazing.

Like, New York was amazing being there at that time was such a special experience. It was just, you know, it just really was a gift. So, yeah. Yeah. I was talking to a girl today who's in her 20s, who's in New York. And early 20s, maybe not even 20. And she was saying that she feels a bit lost. And she doesn't know what she wants.

And she doesn't know what she wants to do. and you were speaking about that, like, when you were in college, like, I don't, everyone knows what they want to do and I don't. And she just said that to me today. I still don't know. Right. I know. That's what I said. I was like, Rachel and I still, like, we're mothers. We've, you know, we've created different things in our lives and we're still like, wait, what am I doing? You know, like, we're kind of all doing that. But at that age, that's something that do you feel as normal to not know what you want? Totally. I mean, now I do. Now I do. you can see it, but like I felt at that time that you had to like pick a career path quick, right, for the rest of your life. And you're like 17, I was 17 years old. I mean, it's ridiculous. Yeah. And so. So I'm like a big proponent of like experimenting, like trying out a bunch of different things, maybe taking a year off, traveling if you can and just meeting, you know, different people

and trying to, I don't know, absorb something different. We can kind of get out of your box and out of your, out of your shell a little bit, you know? Right. That's exactly, you know. I think traveling is like, number one, what you should do while you're young and, like, no kids and the whole thing, just as much as possible. Right. But yeah, how can you be expected to know what you want to do the rest of your life? Exactly. When you're, like, dripping with afterbirth.

Like, it's like, look at you pulled that out. She's been holding that one back. Clearly, like, I've been rehearsing that because I've, like, flubbed it when I tried to say it. Guys, today is not in day. Yeah, but I feel like that's, like, society is, like, you know, you go. go to school, then you go to college, you figure out what you want to do. And then there's other people that have known since they were born that they want to act. And then they take the path and it leads them somewhere completely different.

It's like you don't know what you want to do. You think there's people that know that they want to act since they were born? I knew I wanted to act at like three years old. Well, that's a little older. Three? Yeah. Fresh out the afterbirth. Like six months.

She just wanted to be able to say dripping. with after birth again. I just wanted to say it correctly because it was really good. I think there's people that know what they want to do really young and there's people that don't and there's people that need to try things.

For sure. As an actor too, I work with actors and they're like I feel like I should be doing this, that and the other to make a career. She's a like coach. Sorry, I just want to know that. Nice.

Yeah, I work with people in their psychology. Amazing. And a lot of the times, actors feel like I have to do X, Y, and Z. Right. And they feel guilt if they're, want to, you know, instead go surf or go do the, I'm like, go surf. Yeah.

For sure, go surf. But so I want to hear from people that have actually made it happen. Like, what is that? What? Like, what do you feel people should be doing, like, should they be doing the hustling thing and the tactical things? Or should they be surfing, hiking, breathing? Like, what do you think it was about your experience that got you where you are? Rob.

Just the question not make sense? No, I think you're 100% right. I think at the crux of it, you have to somehow hold on to, you know, it sounds ridiculous. You have to hold on like childlike play, like where you get excited to do it and just still have fun with it, like try to have fun with it, even though it can be such a shitty business. You know, as we know, I mean, the rejection is sort of the number one thing. It's tough to deal with that. while also trying to maintain some sense of like balance and having fun.

But you have to, yeah, you got to like get outside and go and go roll down hills and take mushrooms. You have to cycle and make espresso. Yeah, I'm training. Now I'm trying to be a barista and for the tour to France. That's where I'm at my life. It's crazy. Yeah. It's so true though.

Rejection is probably one of the hardest things in the business of acting or whatever. It comes up all the time and it's like, well, you can't take it personally, but sometimes it's really hard not to. You can't help it. Right. You get close to Friday lights and you get crushed. whatever, you know, you just can't help but get, you know, into the idea. I really could see you in Friday night. No, no, no, no disrespect to Scott because obviously love Porter. But yeah, I mean, you could have taken Taylor out. I know, I know. And then I knew

I was just become friends with Taylor and he's like, oh, I'm going in for Riggins. I'm like, this could be great. Like we could do it together. We could do it together. Yeah. No, it's great. It all worked out. But yeah. And Scott's fantastic. I met all those people. It was, yeah, they're great. Yeah. And Minka. Right. Minka. Yeah. Minka. Yeah. Minka. Yeah. Mika. Yeah, Zach, yeah, some of those guys were great. There was like a lot of people in that cast. Right. How do you keep yourself grounded through that rejection?

Because I'm sure even though you have a smashing hit success, it still comes forward, right? You know, no, absolutely. Because, I mean, there's always that treadmill of, oh, someone else is doing. You know, you're all constantly reminded in L.A. and being around it of someone, there's always that person that's like you kind of wish you were at that level or this thing or doing this other thing. You just got to, I don't know, I just try to extract myself as much as possible, or I insulate myself from that as much, which is, I mean, you know, not being on social media as much or not, you know, what have you, not being on, you know, whatever. IMDB, I don't know what it is for that, but it's just not like really. It's hard. I mean, it's hard in L.A. to kind of extract yourself from it.

But, yeah, you got to distract yourself from that stuff and find other, you know, hobbies. Hobbies. Yeah. Coffee making. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do the surfing.

But, you know, for you, like, to have, now you have, like, two very, like, huge, successful hit shows. You know, that doesn't always happen, like, Gossip Girl and now the Boys, which is a huge success. Right. You know, and that's, I feel, like, a rarity. Like, it doesn't always happen. So rare. I know. I know.

And obviously, you know, you're very, very lucky. But it's, like, it's a cool thing. But you're someone super deserving. So, like, I look at you as an example. Like, of course you have two successful shows because you're, you're just a good thing. because you're such a good person, you know? And I feel like I hope somewhere that people do get rewarded when they're that good. It's, I mean, we all know how hard is for a show to kind of have lightning in a bottle.

And it's the most fun I've ever had. On this show? Yeah, on this show with comedy. And you're getting to, like, kind of, you know, talk to sea mammals and... Talk to semen? Yeah. Talk to semen. Talk to octopuses and octopi. Rob's like, I'm not giving her that one.

But no, it is verified air. It's great. And it's already, I'm already, you know, getting sad at the day, getting ready for the day where it all ends. No, you can't do that. That's the hardest thing, right? Like staying present and not future tripping like, oh, no, and this comes to an end or whatever it is. It's been such a good experience. We keep going and pitch a spin off.

Yeah. But it's in Toronto. So you are relocated there while you're filming. Right. We shoot in Toronto. Yeah. And this is your first year doing winter there? Yeah, first winter.

Have you done some winters up there? You have. You have? Many. Really? Oh, yeah. What do I need to do? It's very fucking cold.

Bundle up. I pray for you. You don't have exterior, like, scenes. Yeah, I mean, like a leotard, a sleeveless leotard, basically, or wetsuit. Oh, good. You're going to have fun. Yeah. It's very cool.

The winter's a lot like Chicago. It's that wind, though, off. It's that wind coming off the deal. But I just, I think I text you, yeah, I just packed. I just shoved on my winter gear in this bag. It was like, what is this ski jacket from, like, 2007. You know, that was ski gear. You're going to fit right in.

It's going to be great. No, it's a cool city and it's just very cold. But it's an awesome city. As you know, you've had a lot of time there. But it's just going to be fucking freezing. But they got Fibachi Grills there. So they got a bunch of them. You know what?

You won't get food poisoning. They do have Benihana, which is... They do have Benihana. My last meal would be Benihana. So I'm just saying, I do not say that lightly. Actually, during the pandemic, it was actually not on the pandemic. It was last year, like 21. It was all locked down.

Up there. They locked down restaurants. and stuff. They did have a habachi girl where Jesse plays a train. I was like, yo, I got this hookup. You guys want to go out to eat? And we're like, yeah. And then it became like four people and then it was like 15, like the whole cast, Aya, like everyone.

We're all like, then they were like, you guys got to come in, come in twos. Like so we're like, it was like, we're sitting by like the car and like it's a drug deal. Like in two by two we walk into the side door and like all the lights off and we're like sneak into this habachi grill. It was like way overpriced for what it was. for what it was. They just did like, just like some chicken and like fried rice

and it was awesome. It was like the best thing that was the best thing in the world. Yeah, yeah. It's like underground illegal habachi grill. It was great.

I mean, I need to go there. The fried rice is the best. Yeah, yeah. Obviously. That's amazing. See, that would be like

the biggest raging night of my life. I was about to say, you know we could go to Benny Hana tonight. No, you cannot get in. What do you mean?

The hardest restaurant in L.A. To get into. Is it really? Is it really? Is it really? You cannot just be like, I'm going to go to Benny Hanna today. I am dead serious.

If you showed up and showed your face, I bet they'd be like, yes. No. She's nobody knows who I am. Are you kidding me? Come on. Listen, Benny Hanna does not give a fuck. Okay, I threw the OC viewing parties. Okay, I know.

I know. I know you can get into Benny Hontas. I was the host. I mean, now I do want to go there. I mean, we could. I'm just saying. It's something we could do. Rob's horrified.

He's like a big foodie, and every time I share my real food desires, like... There's so much better food in Toronto than Benihana's. There's great food in Toronto. There is great food.

There is great food. There is great food in Toronto. But if you're going to go to Habachi Grill, I mean, you got to go to Benihana. There's not really another. Do not go to Shoguns. I'll tell you that much. Ever in your life.

I've seen them other places. I feel like it's a chain of like the South Midwest like Shoguns is like there, Benihana. And I've never seen. I don't think I've ever seen it. Yeah, well, it's probably, like I said, definitely gone now. If not, it should be.

Benny Hana, anyone? Anyone up for Benny Hana? No. Cracker barrel? How do you do a cracker barrel? I love cracker barrel. A little tea game, yeah, that's great. Waterburger?

You've been to Waterburger? What's that? You've never been a water burger? No. Oh my God. What is it? That's a true Texas burger place. Is it only in Texas?

Have you heard of it? It's only in Texas. I've been there. There's a Mexican one, too. There's a Mexican water burger. There's a micosina. Miko's. Miko.

Miko Sina. It's like a Chipotle, but okay. A little bit faster. Chipotle. Okay. A little bit faster than Chipotle. A little bit more neurovirus than Chipotle. Are you super healthy?

Do you have to like eat healthy workout constantly to keep up your Superman? It's not Superman. Sorry. Super hero. Superman. Super hero strength. Yeah. I kind of boxed myself in the corner for a season.

I was like, I'm going to do this thing. And I was like, okay, now I guess I got to keep it up. Keep it up every time it comes around. Yeah, well, I want to know the thing. Just working out all the time. Like traditional? It's not that. I just, I do like basic stuff, like 45 minutes a day and just try and get in and out.

And just, I'm consistent with that at the gym, yeah. Or in my backyard. The pandemic got, I got like a few things in my, in my backyard. And you're disciplined enough to actually go and big, okay, 45 minutes. Yeah, yeah. I like this is doing the morning. It's kind of natural zan. I actually get out of the way.

way, you know, feel good. That's great. Do you eat healthy too? Oh, you cook? What do you cook? I like to cook, yeah. What do you like to cook? I started, I mean, it's pretty base level, but I can do, you know, a few pastas.

I do a lot of, like, I do a lot of, like, meat and wine, basically. Like, Cocoa Vin sounds fancy, but it's vegetables and chicken and wine and. For sure. Like in a Dutch oven, like, do you have a Dutch oven? Have a Dutch oven. Okay. Now you're talking porn to me. Got a big green egg.

Yeah. We call her spatchcock. Spatchcock is my new, yep. It's my new nickname. Yep, Spatchcocked my first chicken and we were talking to a top chef and it is stuck. It is stuck. Spatchcock built. You know what?

That could have a few meanings and I'm okay with it. No, it's so cool. Cooking is like an amazing thing. For me, that's very therapeutic. I love it. It is. But when you're like doing like beef stew and you're like, I'm making beef bourguineal. You're like, you're like, you sound like, you sound like, you sound like,

You sound like such an asshole. Yeah. Yeah. When you're making Coca-van, like, sorry, you know, Coke a van. What is that? You're like, well, I'm throwing a chicken in the oven. I'm doing it. Wait, what did someone?

Oh, Brandy. Sorbet. No. Sorbet. No. No. No, that's not what it was. That is not what it was.

It wasn't? No. It was Sherbert. It was Sherbet. It was Sherbet. How do you say, how do you say, Sherbet? How do you say, Sherbert? Sherbert. Thank you.

With an R. Right? Yeah. Oh, she said, Sherbet. No, it's actually spelled. Wait, I never knew this. Okay. S-H-E-B-E-T.

There is no R. Where did the R come from? Stripping with afterbirth. She's stripping with afterbirth over there. Oh, my God. But for real. He's looking, Rob's looking at up. Right.

I can believe you. I know. I've all been saying Sherbert our whole life. Brandy was like, she's like, Sherbet. And I'm like, what did you say? She's like, Sherbet. It's right. My friend Brandy.

And I know, and it's right. She's like, I will show you. It's spelled this way. I was like, but don't say that. She's right. I'm like, but you can't say sherbet. Pronounced Sherbet. I thought it was like Herbert, Sherbert.

Right. Wow. You guys, now, let me ask you, are you going to say Sherbet from now on? Never. Ever. I'm not a loser. I'm a total loser. Yeah, she was like, but if I say that, do I sound like a total,

like idiot? And so then we talked about like, you know, like are you the person that will say the word correctly? Right. Even if it makes you look like an a-hole. Like if you're ordering, I'm going to spell it and you tell me how you say it. Okay. If you order a G-Y-R-O, how do you pronounce it? Gyro. No. Euro. Euro. A Gero? What is it? You're wrong? Both counts. It's a gyro. That's what it's all it is. No. Euro. Euro. Hero. So is that like a deal breaker for like if you're on a date? So I'm going to say, I'll take a giro.

You know what? My husband does it all the time. I'm like, babe, no. Say a hero. That's going to be my opener from now on. I'm like, I'm going to smell a word for you. Listen, this is going to be real quick. Okay.

Tell me how you say. What's another one? Hawaii. No, you need to spell them and see how they say it. You think I know how to spell? Hawaii. How do you say it? I know that's what you're supposed.

Hawaii. Hawaii. Thank you. No, you're good. You got another one? But other people say it. The correct way to say it is, I'm not doing it. Rob did it.

Let's hear it. Let's hear it. He did it. Everyone listening heard him the first time. Do you have another one? Do you want to whisper it to me so I can spell it? Do you say literally or literally? You're not spelling them.

I try not to say literally anymore, but I literally say it all the time. So do I. It's a problem. But you don't say literally. How do you say C-A-R-A-M-L? Carmel. Me too. Carmel.

Well, no, I bet Rob said caramel. Rob says caramel. Where were you born again? L.A. L.A. Yeah, you're local. And you say,

Carmel, that's so rare. Yeah. Why? Is that like a Texas thing? It's a Texas thing? It's a Southern thing. It is. I say, okay.

This failed miserably. Oh, I thought you were like, these people are my soulmate. She's from here too. People always say caramel. It's caramel. No, it's caramel. It's caramel.

It's caramel. Like, come on, people. I've got a list here. All right. This is my favorite game. Hard to pronounce words. Yes. Okay.

Or mispronounced. Typically mispronounced word. Okay. All right. Go forward. P-I-L-O-W. Pillow. Pillow.

Pillow. Well, some people say pillow and I think it's really weird. Who are you hanging out with? My husband says instead of color, he says, killer. He's like, what killer is it? I'm like, killer? What? Don't say that to my children.

That's a deal breaker. Yeah. We need talk about this. Spell one, Rob. C-U-P-B-O-A-R-D. Covered? Cubbered. Olivia's like, what we're...

Apparently, I'll have a... I'm just like... Say it again? Cubbud. Can you get me that from the cupboard? Cubbed! I really like this game. It's my favorite game.

You gotta throw out some other ones too. Yeah. Come on, Rob. I don't know if this site... Right. But wait, you guys didn't... Just spell it and see how we say it. It doesn't have to be what.

S-T-O-M-A-C-H. Stomac. Yes. Stomach. Do you guys need me to say it first? Do you know what word he's spelling? Stomach. Stomach.

Stumach. What? Are you in a British website? Like, what's happening? I don't like the site. No, Rob, you got to do better. Come on, Rob. Shaking it my whole world.

All right. 31 words, you're definitely pronouncing wrong. Oh. Okay. Give us a curable. A-C-I. Oh, well, that is like, you know, I feel weird saying like asaii. Why?

I know it's how you're supposed to say it. I just feel weird saying it. I feel word saying to the point where I don't order it. Ever? Ever? I really want this. I can't say it. I can't say it.

No. Yeah, that's one of those words that I'm uncomfortable with. Yeah. I can do that one. ESP-R-E-S-S-O. Okay. Espresso. Oh, right.

Expresso. Expresso. This is your word, Chase. I'm sorry, I keep saying the words first, just because I want to be like, I know what he's spelling. That one, that one I judge people for it. She also watches the wheel of course. If you say expresso, I'll correct that.

This is for Rachel. What's the second month? What? The second month of the year. February? February. There is an R there. I'm aware there's an R.

I don't say it. How do you say Boulevard? Boulevard. Hers are the best because she just blurt's out the word. How do you say huge? Huge. Well, my mom...

Huge. That's how my husband does it too. Huge. He's like, oh, it's huge. Yeah. He's from Pittsburgh. Yeah. That is in northeast.

Yeah. Yeah. My mom's from Philly, so she has some of those words too. Yeah. Right. That's not... I mean, that's kind of...

Milk or milk. Milk. Milk. But people do say milk. Like, pillow. The people who say pillow. Oh, Pello. That's right, right, right, right.

That's where I was coming from. Right. Right. Right. O-O-F-T-E-N. I'm not going to say it first, even though I know the word. Do you know the word, Olivia? Often. Often? Apparently, you're not supposed to pronounce the T. Often. Oh, you're not supposed to? Often. Okay, wow.

Really? How do you say it? Just often. Oh, that's how you say it? Right. Often, yeah. That's how you say it naturally? I say often. Often. Often. I say often. Do you say comfortable? How do you say comfortable? Comfortable. No. No, I do not. I know people that are like, it's really uncomfortable to me. And I'm like, what?

Uncomfortable. Those people that are just like pronounce every little letter and syllable. That's irritating, too. There it is again. Sherbert. Sherbet. And here we are. Blown, right?

My mind was blown. She pulled it out. And I was like, oh my God. My world. I've been living a lie. S-T-U-S. Okay. I won't say it first.

Yeah. Oh, I say status. Status. Status is correct. Status is correct. That sounds very wrong. I don't know anyone that says status. I would... But I will say, okay...

Okay. Chase, you're in Canada a lot. Some of their words, they do differently. Oh, yeah. Like... Like data or... Data. Data.

Or they say progress. Have you noticed this? Progress. They do kind of say that. Instead of progress. They say progress, which is more British, but it is a British colonized... Right. Place, Britain colonized.

That part of Canada. Oh boy. And it's got like some French Canadian there too, kind of more Montreal. Progress. Progress. I say progress. Progress. Putting it out there.

I say progress. Yeah. They call pizza grease wheel, too, which I like. Do you? I like grease wheel. That's good. Hey, you want some grease wheel? Are you a fan of Tim Horton?

Oh, you're a coffee. Of course not. You're like a espresso man. I like, I like, Rob's like, I like their donut holes. They're called Tim Hors. They're called Timbitts. Timbitts. That's right.

That's right. Bieber had his own. You're a pro. Yeah. I know. You're local. To a fault at times. But no, I am.

Why did you spend so much time in Toronto? What do you mean? Why did I spend so much time in Toronto? Yeah, what was up there? Robert? I'm serious. Hayden is from, grew up in Toronto. Okay.

So, like, yes, a lot of time in Canada. I love Canada. I love Canadians. I've also worked in Vancouver. Great experience. Love it all. Love Tim Hortons. Love my 10 bits.

Hockey, I could do without the hockey. I like football. You're a football fan? A little bit, yeah. They really love hockey. They do. They really love. The Leafs, they haven't been so good.

They're kind of cursed. I know. I know. It's tough. Everyone likes to talk about it. I know. I know nothing about it. You know, hockey, at least is fast-paced, so it's fun.

I like to go. I like to go to the games. I'm more of a, I like basketball probably best. Really? Yeah. Interesting. Nice. Lakers.

You got to be Lakers. No. I grew up Clippers. Clippers. I love that. I can't stand the Lakers. It's my dad's fault. Okay. Hockey is my number one. Is hockey here? I thought you really liked hockey. Really? Well, I'm gripping Chicago.

Oh, the Blackhawks are like the best franchise. Yeah. Yeah, even though he's sitting here wearing his white socks hat. He loves hockey. It's because it's baseball season, right? Okay, that's fair. That's fair, Rob. I'll give you that. And I grew up, like, Jordan-era Bulls, too. Well, that's a good time to grow up in Chicago. Dude. That's pretty cool.

Olivia's like, I can't, I don't, I don't like sports. I'm meditating. She's like, I do not do the sports. None. What kind of meditating do you do? Do you do any specific type of room? Oh, no, I mean, yeah. You're like TM, is that your thing?

I did the TM thing. Did you really like this? Yeah. What's your mantra? You're not allowed to tell anyone. Because then it ruins the magic. I've never done TM. I float in and out, but when I do it, it's great.

So are you into yoga? Not that that has to go hand in hand, but. I love yoga. I just have, I kind of phased out of that. I'm going to get back into yoga. I like hot yoga. It's the best. It's like the best.

Hot yoga is your go to. Yeah. Yeah. I'm trying to get her to do it. I told you hot yoga was the only kind that I might do. I said that to you. There's that one. I forget the name of it.

It's like it's in, I think it's closer to me, but they got like, it's like dark, kind of like dark and they have like the infrared heat things. And they play like hip hop, kind of hip hop. Is it core power? Yeah, play hip hop. I could do that. Is it core power? Is it Y7 or something like that? I can't remember.

doing it right before the pandemic. And I stopped. Yeah. Kind of play like hip hop. It's kind of cool. It's nice. Yeah. Yeah.

To me, that helps more than anything, yoga. Totally. Yeah. It's like, okay. Yep. All right. She's been on me for a long time. Have you ever meditated, Rob?

Yeah. You have? You have. Rob. It's just so you know, you're full of surprises, Rob. Does Natalie meditate? Not even more, but she did.

She did? Yeah. That's great. You know what? My therapist told me this week that I found very interesting because I was telling her that I get really tired at a certain point every day. And I'm like, I want to figure out what it is. Right? And my husband is doing my labs and checking all the stuff, right? And she was like, well... Her husband's a doctor. Okay. Well, yeah. Okay. Otherwise, that's a little bit here. He snuck in. He's doing the labs. Yeah. Yeah. He's just a creep. Scooping pee out of the pool. But we're trying to figure out why I get so tired at certain times of the day, right? And she was like, well, just like we have sleep rhythms that we go into, there's natural rhythms in the day where you dip in energy and then you pick back up in energy. And the most valuable thing you can do with those times is choose them for meditation.

And you can kind of track during the day. It's like, okay, strongest burst of energy from 9 to, let's say, 12, 30, then it's like you dip. And then during that 30 minutes, if you were to do a 20-minute meditation, you actually recharge and get another boost of energy. She's like, so what you're feeling is actually accurate to the rhythms of the day. Amazing. And I was like, oh my God, that actually helps because that means I can, oh, I do give my self permission anyways to like nap. But it does give me permission to be like, okay, I can meditate for 20 minutes.

Can I take a siesta and like chill out? Yes. And that our natural, our bodies actually crave that, need that and want that. No, that's fascinating. I think I read something along those lines too that argued that but to not make decisions like like the kind of you can structure your like calls and meetings and you know and and decision making around around you're like dip in like you know yeah so stop smoking meth for me i want to try this i'm going to try this now yeah that's what she said not to make decisions during

that time and to really like kind of schedule your not to make decisions during that time yeah you know not make any do anything like important meetings or making any big decisions at that like at that low point which is like what like three to four p.m. Yeah, I was going to say, probably. Yeah. Don't slam me out, like four shots of espresso. Expresso. And don't bring me a macha.

Right. Instead of going for that afternoon coffee, which I tend to do, me too. Take the chill. Right. You know? But do you feel like you have that opportunity? I mean, you have kids and like what?

I schedule my life. So I absolutely have the opportunity. I will schedule in a nap if I need it. I'll schedule in a meditation. I'll schedule in yoga. Amazing. I put those things first. I have a problem putting myself first.

I don't. Okay Because you both have kids Obviously you have two boys You said? She has two boys I have a girl Yeah

Yeah yeah Yeah Well because I'm not a well person You're you know If I don't do those things I'm a little unhinged Right Like I'm not as patient

I'm not as present Right No it totally makes sense And I know that's a big thing Especially you know They say with parenting Yeah So make sure you take time for yourself

Yeah Okay Just do that You don't have kids But do it anyway Do you want kids? I do want kids. Yeah, I do. Well, you're an uncle of three. I'm an uncle of three, three nephews, three boys. My sister's got three boys. What's the age range from? The four-year-old just turned five. Seven just turned eight and a ten. So yes, so it's a five. I'm like, yeah, five to ten. Your sister's busy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's so fun. Yeah, it's good. Yeah, kids are great. I think five boys, though, a lot. I think. I think. Kids are pretty great.

No, that's really cool. And it's, you know, certain, when the time comes, there's nothing better. I definitely do. I just like, I'm so, you know, I don't wake up and I'm like, I'm 37 now. It just turned 37. Right. It's like I'll find the right person as well, right? Like, you want to, I don't want to have kids just to have kids, obviously.

Right. You want to do it right. Yeah, yeah. And then you don't want to show them the boys. They will never see it. They will never see your work. When can I see the boys? I'm like, never, buddy.

you're never watching it. And people are like, when can your daughter see her? I'm like, when she's 45. Yeah. And my youngest is watching Die Hard. And her three-year-old was watching Die Hard. That's like my favorite story ever. That's hilarious.

You know, hey, different strokes for different folks. So when we finish up these conversations, we play a game, not how you pronounce words, but we might start doing that. Fuck Mary Kill. Okay. All right, I've got the three. Oh, I've got the octopus from my octopus teacher. That's actually there was the impetus for the whole thing, by the way.

Was it? Kripke was like, so did you see octopus teacher? I was like, I did. And I was actually really moved by it. I'm like, where is this going? He's like, didn't it seem like he just wanted to fuck that day? I'm like, well, actually, now that you say it, yeah, you just twisted the whole thing.

Everyone's going to be upset, including me. Anyway. Oh my God. That was it. That's amazing. Yeah. Nemo and the shark from jaws. I love it.

Rob. Look at Rob. Coming in hot. Yeah. I like it. Sharp from jaws. That might be a little hard. That might be a little.

That's the one you got to kill. We can swap an offer. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For a dolphin. Swamp for flipper. People really have relationships with dolphins.

Oh, yeah. Like, sleep with. Like, have intimate, actual sexual relations. They actually do it, though? The dolphins try and do it to, like, scuba it. Dolphins definitely are, like, gnarly. Like, they will go for it. Like, I have a boner.

I'm going to come find anything, and they will go for it. I've seen, I've seen, documentary. They're one of the only other species that have sex for pleasure. Oh, interesting. Okay. That's why Rob's here. All right.

You can give the real list. Okay. We, for some reason, we went on. and a Ashley Bender. It's all Ashley's. I love it. Yeah, it's a good name, right? Ashley.

So it was Ashley Benson, Ashley Olson, and Ashley Simpson. Okay. Have you had any relations with these women? No, no, no, no. I was just trying to visualize. It gets super awkward. Because they're all Ashley's Simpson, Benson, and Olson. Olson.

Yeah. Okay. I think I met a few of them. Yeah. Huh. Probably It's much Weirder as the guy

It's like, can I do you get It's weird Because I don't know I don't know any of these people Okay I guess Which is better I guess

Which is better Right Right right right right Right Right I guess I would Who's the phone Who's Olson, Benson and Simpson

Okay I guess you'd marry Or maybe marry Ashley Simpson Okay Fuck Ashley Benson There's no logic

to this. You're killing the Olson twin? I get. I don't know. Is that, is that me? I would tell you, they are so nice. Ashley in particular, like super, super nice. She saved me in New York one. Really? So you might want to marry her. I don't know. I'm changing it my whole thing. Yeah. Big Ashley Olson. Okay. The twins were at TRL. Okay. Dating myself. Dating myself. We were at TRL, Adam and I, and I guess was I just there. He was with me. I don't know. But it was around the time where O.C. was pretty successful. Right. And we come out and the Olson twins, of course, have their things, like, dialed in, like, their bodyguard, their car pulls up, like, they're getting in. And Adam and I, like, you know, there were like a lot of people outside

of TRL, and I guess they knew the OC, and they were super excited and start, like, swarming. And the twins, the Olson twins, like, grab me and they're like, come in our car. Amazing. And I'm with Adam, and I just left him. And we, like, go a couple blocks to. Damn me. He's got swallowed by the masses. He's like, go up a little and they're like, do you want to get, like, do you think we should get asked to? No, he's fine. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, we should probably do that. But I was so, like, you know, awkward. I didn't want to be like, I'm sorry, can you wait a second? Olson twins, I have to go grab my boyfriend who's being swallowed by a swarm of people. I will never forgive you for this. Oh, my God. I hadn't thought about that in a very long time. Oh, that's good.

It's shocking. You guys didn't make it. I'm like, no, he's. It's fine. It's fine. Let's get out of here. Pick up. Oh, my God.

TRL alone. That's amazing. Oh, my God. Was that even a thing when gossip world was going on? I don't think so. I don't think so. Yeah. I mean, I grew up on it, though.

I watched it. Yeah, it was big for, you know, us. You were a trooper and you hung in there for all the shenanigans today. Boy, were we all over the place. But I'm super happy that you came and did it. and really appreciate it. Thanks for having me. Seriously. Yes.

And come hang out anytime. You can keep your shoes on next time. So good to see you again. Yeah. It was so good to see you too. Following Rob's lead on the shoes. You know what I mean? Your house is beautiful.

It's gorgeous. Thank you. Thank you. So, guys, I had a lot of fun with this interview. We noticed. I'm a really big fan of playing games, any games in general. So the pronunciation game, like I could have gone on with that for five hours. Same.

We'll see if people like that. people are going to like it people are going to be in their car we're going to see a big drop in our episode retention at that point because they're going to be like what are they doing people like it I mean I know we really like it

I do wonder are people like us Rob did you enjoy that segment yeah but I was part of it I don't know that's like watching your friend play video game how much fun is that yeah but they're going to be in their car like pillow yeah they're going to be in the hello yeah they're going to be in the car playing along

I'm like, how do I say that? So it's a little different than a video game. Sure. Do I say I would like an enchilada or an enchilada? I hope you just do that one time when we're at a restaurant because that would really make me laugh. Do you remember when, did I already tell this story of when they brought you a plate of plain cheese and you cried? No. Nope.

We went to Mexico and Rachel was a vegetarian at the time. So I believe the way she said it, she's like, I want an enchilada con queso, right? Yeah. And so they came and they brought her an enchilada and it had meat in it. No. Yeah, she got very upset. And she was like, no, no, no, queso, con queso, enchilada, queso. And so we were all eating.

She was hungry. She couldn't eat our meat. They bring it back and they just brought a plate of melted cheese. And she started crying. I was hungry. How old were you? When was this? 40.

No. She was probably like, I mean, I was probably like 21. Yeah, I was like 19. I went through. Yeah, I stopped eating meat for like eight months. And Mexico, it was not, it was not the best timing. That was a fun trip. That was a fun.

We were in Acapulco. Yeah, with 20 of our friends, we had a whole hacienda to ourselves. It was like a little hotel. Someone's dad owned it. it, right? Yeah, whose dad owned it? Was it Chris Cardona? Who? Oh, no. Only is David. He's leaving again. We had a lot of fun when we were young. We did many things. Melted cheese was not one of the fun times. That was very disappointing. I mean, that sounds good to me. A plate of melted cheese? No, it was like a square, you know, cheese like, you know, craft,

not it wasn't craft, but like, and it was just on a plate melted. And then the next day, we all went out that night, of course, and had a great time. And the next day they had a fishing trip scheduled for us at 5 in the morning for everyone to go. And everyone's out there and Rachel and I, everyone's getting in the cab. And Rachel and I just look at each other and ran. We didn't go. We left everybody. We were like, fuck this.

He got up that early and then still did it. I think we might have gotten in the cab, looked at each other, opened the door, and ran. Didn't say a word, and just ran. Yeah, we did that thing. You know how you can do that thing with, like, your best friend where you don't have to say words? Yeah. We probably left Leah. We did.

We left everyone. Oh, God. Deep sea fishing after a night of, like, partying is not probably the best move. Yeah. Do you deep sea fish, Rob? All the time. No, I've never been Sea fishing.

No? I feel like I grew up in the Midwest. We don't have deep seas. Do you think that Chase is a deep sea fisherman? For sure. Absolutely. His character probably is, considering he is one with the sea life. That's true.

Jeff was asking me about his character. He was like, did you ask him this? And did you ask him that? And I thought about it. I was like, no, we didn't ask him any relative question. Well, we just asked him about, fucking the sea creatures. Yeah.

I mean, because that's what first comes to mind. Like, so... How was it? Yeah. I mean, it's a little outside the box, you know, when you go back and characters you play and what you do. Probably didn't think, like, when he was becoming an actor, that he was going to fuck an octopus.

What's the most... No, he probably didn't. What's the most obscure thing you did as a character? Well, that would include, you know, me having a memory. The O.C. I know about it. I just like a specific moment. Oh, if I would, if I play Marissa, then maybe Rob would remember.

Or Anna. Oh, yeah, or Anna. I don't know. Heart of Dixie, I had to do a lot of things. A lot of shenanigans on that show. Nothing traumatic, though, clearly. No. Trauma for me is only been personally, not professionally.

That's good. All right, let's talk about that then. Rob. Silent Rob. I would like him back now. We have a new nickname for Rob and we call him Snobby Robby. He's shaking his head. Well, you only like the finer things as you sip your handmade macha from an hour line to pick it up this morning.

Handmade matcha. I don't know. How do you? As yours machine made when you go to Starbucks? They like hand ground the powder. They made the powder with a modern pestle. It's from a hill in Chile What is it like from friends

And she's like Oh you know And I was backpacking on the Oh yeah That's the story When she gets pregnant Yeah Oh god

Rob probably doesn't know friends Did you ever watch friends I've seen it But I don't know what you're talking about Do you like it? Yes It's so good It's so

It's the show That I would always go to sleep to Every night Yeah It's so comforting Elliot likes it now. He really likes Chandler. That's amazing. Yeah, I mean, there's definitely like inappropriate stuff, but eventually I'll have Breyer join me because she's, you know.

She's way more sensitive to that. Oh, she's way more sensitive to everything. But I'm really enjoying her moving into like game show watching and all of that. So it's not just like her cartoons. So we're watching like a baking championship. Who is it the Great British Bake Off? We do love the great. Junior one.

There's a junior one? Yeah, they just put out a junior one. Oh, well, we'll definitely be watching that this evening. Currently, we're in Canada, so we're watching the great Canadian baking championship. There's a new season coming out soon, too. Of the British one? Yeah. Do you watch it?

Oh, yeah. Rob watches it! That's so cute. I've seen all of it. When do you guys get to watch TV? Never, but Briar and I have a tradition of, like, watching one show before bed. I mean, she'll watch TV, you know, more, obviously. But you have it easier because you don't have a partner.

You've got to, like, time your shows with. Oh, you guys watch the same shows? Yeah, we have certain shows that I'm not allowed to watch by myself. Yeah, right. Of course. When you're in a relationship, that's how it is. And you're like, you fucking watch that movie without me or the episode or whatever. It happens often, though.

I have to get in writing that I'm allowed to watch something because she'll change her mind. And get mad then. I watched it. You told me I could see this. What's an example of a show? Of a show that we have to watch together or that that's happened. Both. I want to know which ones you watch separate and which ones she watch.

I want to know the whole. Yeah. I really do. Yeah, it's fascinating. Right now we're watching House of Dragon. Oh, that just aired, right? Yeah. We just watched the rehearsal.

Oh, you told that. HBO. Yeah. I forgot I was watching that. I didn't know it was called the rehearsal. And then when you were like the rehearsal, I'm like, oh, I got to look into that. And then I went and I was like, oh, we watched it. Yeah, it's rough.

Yeah? It's good. It's really good. It's really interesting and weird. We stumbled upon it. And we were watching it and we're like, what are we watching? It's Nathan Fielder. Yeah.

He's, that's, yeah. Okay. And then, like, we watched like Survivor, too. Oh, wow. Still? Still watch Survivor. My brother and Courtney and my sister-in-law, they still watch Big Brother.

Like, that's their show. Interesting. Yeah. I never got into that. But I see how I could. Breyer showed me a show last night, and I don't know, I don't know if it's available in the States.

It's a awake game show. Have you heard of this? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, so it's on Netflix. It's on Netflix. It's on Netflix. I just didn't know, because I had never noticed.

it before where people have to stay awake for 24 hours and count quarters. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And count money. It was very suspenseful. It was really, but I was like, what am I watching? And whoever's like the closest at the end. That sounds like a recipe for sleep.

Yeah. I think that's the point. Okay, so Survivor. What else? Great British Bake-off. These are all together. Yeah, we watch all these together. I mean, we just started bad sisters last night.

I don't know what that is. It's an Apple TV show with a bunch of people. A bunch of people in it. What are yours together, Lou? Right now, we're still trying to catch up on Ozark. He is all the way taken over the boys. That's now his. He's already on season three.

Yeah, the boys is mine. She won't watch that. Yeah. It's pretty intense. It's a really good show, but like he wanted to watch it so much that he just went ahead with that. Honestly, I haven't had any time to watch TV lately. Yeah. Which makes me sad because it's my favorite thing to do, like end of the night, get in bed, ice cream show.

I know. You have your routine. I haven't had it since moving. Yeah. What are you watching? Right now? Nothing. I uploaded The Bachelorette for my plane ride. Did you watch the movie I made you download?

No, Rob. What movie was? Why are you yelling at me? I thought he meant the clip you sent me yesterday. No, I'm... Oh, no, I haven't watched that yet. The worst person in the world. Yeah, no, I still have that and my rental's almost up, so I do need to watch that.

Who's in that? Is it Polish? It's like a Danish. Oh, it's Danish. Well, let me get to the right for me. I like to get in bed and watch like... docu series. The last one I did the I like all those weird murder things. I just don't think that's really good to watch right before you go to sleep.

No, it's a really stupid thing to do. Yeah. Talk about anxiety. I like to watch like the baking, the bake-offs before bed. That would be smart, but I... You don't care about those shows. I don't care about those shows. You don't want to care about it if you're going to sleep. Well, that's not true.

I only have a certain amount of time to watch something, so I want to care about what I watch. Well, yeah, you've got like the pre-going-to-sleep stuff that you watch that you actually watch, and then the stuff you put on full sleep, too. Oh, I started dope sick. That's good. I've seen that. Yeah, that's good. I started that.

I haven't started, like, a reputable show. I'm watching the baking shows and Wheel of Fortune with my child. What episode of Wheel of Fortune are you on? Well, they took it off Netflix. Do you know what my absolute all-time favorite show is? Jeopardy. Yes, but another one? The O-C.

Supermarket sweep. Do you know this show? I remember the title. Is it like prices right? Still on. So Netflix was airing the old ones from when I was a kid. They just took it off. It really upsets me when they do this.

So now I don't have to find it. But Breyer was enjoying it too. And I think they actually rebooted it. But it didn't last. And you're in a market and you have to like find the products and you have to answer the question. I'm a huge fan of grocery shopping. So it probably has to do with it. Is this the like guy theories?

No. No. But it's something similar to that, right? Maybe he did something similar. Yeah. I've seen, I forget what it's called. But anyway, supermarket sweep. I was just reminiscing since thinking about Mexico in that time and got me thinking about a guy that Rachel dated.

and I remember meeting him. I can tell my... I'm going to fucking kill you. He played a song that he wrote for her. Do you have it, Rachel? Do you know it? You're talking about the one like after we stopped seeing each other, right? I don't know.

All I remember is when I first met him, I noticed that he might not have had back teeth because it took him like three hours to chew a chicken nugget. And I was like, what's a? up with that. Like, we were all done eating and he was only on Nugget One. And I remember being like, why is it taking himself? We're going to refer to him as Nugget One.

You had multiple boyfriends that didn't have bad teeth. Oh my God. No, they're just all nuggets. He really didn't. And I mean, listen, nothing wrong with not having teeth. That's cool. All come, all welcome. I just was fascinated.

on how long it took him to eat that one chicken nugget. And no one else seemed affected but me. Do you have any context of what's going on? Oh, my God. I mean, I think when people tend to do a lot of heroin, it can affect your teeth. And I think that's what happened. Oh, my God.

For the record, I have never, ever in my life tried heroin. Just putting that out there. I don't know anything about it. And he wasn't on it at the time. No! No! But this is just such a weird story that you're pulling out. I know.

It just came to me. I think of it sometimes. He wrote a song after we broke up and it was like along the lines of... Let's hear it. I don't remember the song like verbatim or anything, but it started out. Get your guitar. It started. Let me just...

Hold on. Let me get my guitar. Let me sing Little black curly hair. Sorry. We're talking about friends. Wait, someone's out the door. I think he's here. He brought him to come play the song.

To come play for a live set. He started like, you, like, I love you. You're so amazing. And then like the chorus kicks in and he's like, I fucking hate you. It was like, oh, I don't remember.

I should try to find the song because it's pretty. Leah would remember it. Leah? Yeah, she would. Has epic songs that she has. Yeah. She has great songs. We need to have her do a little diddle.

Yeah, a little didly. Oh, my God. You know, dating, we dated a lot in our early years. Yeah. We went through a lot. And then I didn't date a lot for a very long time because I went from like long term relationship to long term relationship. And dating is hard. Yeah. I mean, it can be fun, I guess. But like you got a really. You've got some weird dates. I did. You know, I think for a long term. time you didn't date and it would always be like you'd end up seeing someone, but it wasn't like traditional dating. It was like you met and then they were your boyfriend. Well, I just didn't, I just don't like being social, like having to like go out to dinner and talk. Right. So I was like, let's just not talk and stay at home. And I never have to do this again

and watch movies. Yeah, but you didn't really like many of your boyfriends. What? She didn't. It's almost like she got conned into them. Oh, God. Oh, I remember. Do you agree or do you disagree? Yeah, no, I mean, I think that I don't, I'm not good at like, not my boyfriend boyfriend,

but just like guys, I dated you're talking about. You liked your boyfriends from, you liked your first boyfriend. And then from Brody on, you liked your boyfriends. Right. But like that chunk in between was like. Yeah. Yeah. Not as much. Hmm.

Well, am I wrong? I just don't remember. I'm trying to think of who they were, and I can't quite remember off the top of my head. Why did you take guys that you didn't like? I liked some of them. You know, it was interesting. Just psychoanalyze yourself here, though. God, what is this? It's fun. Yeah, it's fun to watch and squirm.

Oh, God. I don't, I think I always just, maybe. I don't know if it has... I don't know what it is. I have no idea. I think I just am like, whatever. Is it a... Was it a dad thing?

Oh, shut up, Rob. No, it wasn't a dad thing. Well, isn't that a lot of time... I have a hard time saying no. I think. So you just got pressured into these relationships? I feel like a lot of the relationships were guys that came in hot on her. The guys came in hot and probably would have a little...

list of things of why you would want to date them. So you'd try, but it was you trying for the most part, versus you being sprung off your head on someone and wanting to be with them. Right. Okay. That's fair. Right? Yeah. Yeah, there was a big gap between my high school boyfriend and then like Brody, right? Like a huge gap of like filtering through or what are cycling through. What's the word I'm looking for? Revolving door. Jeez, Louise, I wasn't like, you know. It wasn't crazy. You were great. You know what, I will say. I had a lot of fun. I had a lot of fun. We all had fun. We were having fun. Yeah. It sounds like you, sounds like you weren't having that much fun.

I feel like I was, like, you were always like dating someone. you were kind of complacent on until you found love later on. And I was always dating someone that I was like tortured about or head over heels. Yeah, you were like. Yeah, like it wasn't as fun for me. Right. Yeah, okay. That's fair. But we still had fun. We had fun. Oh, we had a blast. We had a lot of fun. Rob, did you cycle through a few or you were just like. I feel like we should answer questions from girls in their 20s on dating because we might. went through all of it. We used to like ghost right for each other and like everyone ended up coaching each other at different times through different experiences. We've gained a lot of wisdom.

We're very wisdom filled. It's age. Like where I can sit there and be like, hey, look at this, look at that. Rachel will just simply be like, you're over him. Olivia got so mad at me. She was with like her high school. boyfriend, forever. How many years? Six, seven, eight, something like that? Whatever, a long time. And when she was like, I knew she was done, but she didn't want to admit it and she was still going through the, I was like, you're over it. It's done. You're over it. She would get so mad at me, but I knew. It really hurt me because I wasn't ready. Yeah, well. You can be cut for, so we call her cutthroat bilsen because she can be.

Just cuts that cord, right? She can be super cutthroat. It's the truth. I don't like this conversation anymore. Well, you're calling me Snobby, Ravi. You're cutthroat. Bilsen. Cutthroat Bilsen.

I would take cutthroat over snobby. Yeah, because you're cutthroat. She's like, that feels good. And I'll take that one. That's funny. All right. Well, we had a lovely time with Chase. not so much fun talking with you

too after. Well, next week we'll get in a little deeper. Oh, Lord. I wish I had a button when I wanted Rob to be silent Rob. It's called mute. Yeah, you do have that button.

You're on the Zoom right now. It does exist. Oh, gosh. They do exist. They do exist. Thank you for listening and we will not see you but you will hear us next week okay over and out that was a hate gum podcast