Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - D’Arcy Carden on Being Kinder To Yourself

Episode Date: March 9, 2026

Rachel and Olivia sit down with D’Arcy Carden to chat about the power of positive self-talk, staying honest in relationships and parenting, and all the exciting projects she has coming up n...ext! Like the show? Rate Broad Ideas 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts and SpotifyAdvertise on Broad Ideas via Gumball.fm See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Starting point is 00:00:23 and how these beloved characters close out their final season. Watch Hax streaming exclusively on HBO Max and listen to The Hax podcast, on HBO Max or wherever you get your podcasts. Make you cry. We'll talk about death because people die. Great. Great. Wonderful. Thank you for having us, Darcy. Oh, my God. Thank you for being here. Thank you so much. I should have cleaned up. This is my living room. Oh, we finally have you here. I know. That's how I feel. Finally. We've tried for a while.
Starting point is 00:01:32 We really have. I don't know if you know that. I do. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And I always want to. I'm always trying to make it work. But you know how these things are. Of course. But I mean, I also, for some reason with things like this, I don't like it to just fit into the day. I want like time before. I don't want to just like be rushing from one thing here. Yeah. I get that.
Starting point is 00:01:54 This is like, yeah. This is a real. I don't want this to be like a, okay, did that. And you know what I mean? Nice. That you approach it that way. Yeah. It's really, it's special.
Starting point is 00:02:04 Yeah. God, your cheek. You're special. Oh, what the fuck? Thank you. What are you doing? I don't even know. They're just normal.
Starting point is 00:02:11 I think I didn't even know. Brand new information. They're crazy. Oh, they're so high. Are they? Yes. You know what? They are.
Starting point is 00:02:19 They are. I look at her face every day. Right, right, right. But like, I think it's that the fat is disappearing from my face because I'm aging at rapid speed. You know, like, you can make this negative however you want to. Yes. Okay. But it's really good.
Starting point is 00:02:33 It's really good. It's like gorgeous shape. I like you. I like you. I like you. I like. My hair. It's like so.
Starting point is 00:02:40 And then I, I made it negative right away. I was like, oh, day one, hair. It's so big and fluffy. Why do we do that? I don't know, but we do. I just called my sister out on it because my, we have a text chain, one of a million text chains. This one's called sisters, nieces cousins.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Wait, is that what it's called? Sisters, nieces cousins. So it's like all the girls in the family. And my aunts will often, like, send an old picture. Like, look at us in the 90s or whatever. And my older sister always, always without fail, says something bad about herself. and then something good about the person. She's like, well, I look like shit,
Starting point is 00:03:13 but you look so cute or like those glasses I need to burn or whatever. She always is like, and then I had to say, hey, girl, you need to be nice to yourself. That's right. You need to be nice to yourself. She says that all the time. Yeah, I do.
Starting point is 00:03:25 Because how many positives to get rid of a negative? Oh, tell me. Ten. Okay. Ten for one. It's a lot. That is so true. It's a lot.
Starting point is 00:03:33 Meaning you think 10 positive. Okay, this makes sense in so many ways. Also, like, you could hear 10 positive things about yourself and the one negative thing is the only one you penetrates through yeah yeah so this is about thinking positively about yourself it's positive period positive period so 10 positive thoughts to counteract one negative okay so if you're like oh today's gonna be a shit day yeah then you have to repeat today's going to be a great day 10 times where to get it off that path where do you guys like stand on that abortion yeah sorry no tell me
Starting point is 00:04:09 Oh, my question. Where do you stand on? Sorry. That was really funny. Oh, thank you. But where do you stand on, like, you know, when sort of like mantra or like, like, just if I say something nice to myself? Sometimes I struggle with, like, do I really mean it, though? I can look in the mirror and be like, you're great.
Starting point is 00:04:30 But am I, is it worth it to just say it or do I have to, like, really feel it? Like, if you're lying. Right. Like the sort of like, I love the idea of like morning mantras or whatever where you kind of look at You know, like little kids do. I'm great. Yeah, I'm beautiful. But I'm like, do, how do I do that if I, how do you, is it just about saying it?
Starting point is 00:04:47 Yeah. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. It is. Yeah. You don't need to believe it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:04:50 Right. I think that's true. It's hard to believe that. It's a pattern interrupt. Yes. So it's a pattern interrupt and think of it this way if it was reversed. So say you come into the world and you're this precious, beautiful, loving kid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And you hear all the time, you suck. Right. And inside you're like, I don't though. I'm like really good. keep hearing it. But you keep hearing it. All of a sudden you start to adopt that belief. God, damn. That makes so much sense. It's like even when you're in like a horrible relationship where they're just telling you horrible things about yourself to like beat you down or whatever. Right. Right. Right. That's right. This is a little bit the same, a little bit different. There was a while like in junior high where I was like if I smile every morning when I wake up, I'll have a good day.
Starting point is 00:05:35 So in bed I would like smile. I'd like smile. No, that is actually a thing. Yeah, I must have heard it somewhere. Yeah. But it really did work. My mother. Yeah. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Totally. But I would just like lie in bed and smile. Like I would be like the act of smiling is going to like force me to have a good day. And then I feel like it worked. I do feel like it. It is a thing. Like you can automatically shift things. I should do that again.
Starting point is 00:05:56 I should do that. I do that every morning. I say today is going to be a great day about a hundred times in my head. You do? Every single morning. Cool. Like in bed getting up. I'm getting up and it's like that feeling of like, right?
Starting point is 00:06:08 Right. And then I'm like, today's going to be a great day. I got to start doing this. It's like a nudge in the direction you want your thoughts to hang on to. And then I do that thing with Elliot every single morning. You do. Without fail, me and my son, we look at each other and say, today's going to be a great day.
Starting point is 00:06:24 I can and I will. Oh, cool. And so even if I forget, he'll be like, Mom. Yeah. Are you serious? You've kept that up? Every day. That's great.
Starting point is 00:06:32 Because I have a fucked up head. Right, right, right. It's not because I'm like good. It's because I need it that. Otherwise, it's going to be the negative stuff. Yeah. I love that he loves it too. That's really cool.
Starting point is 00:06:42 That is cool. I'm regretting not starting that. No, don't regret. Why? Tomorrow's a new day. Yeah. And today is a great day. And today is the day.
Starting point is 00:06:50 Today is a really good day. Wait, we're just like this the whole interview. Today is a really good day. And where do you guys stand on abortion? That's what we're here for. Yeah. I mean, I find in my fucked up mind, the second someone says something to me,
Starting point is 00:07:07 I was just telling Olivia this across the street. Like my mom, I was like so overwhelmed and stressed out this morning. I'm dealing with a puppy and like it's just another thing in your day. Obviously, I love dogs. Happy great. Yeah. Happy great. The cutest thing ever.
Starting point is 00:07:20 But also I have to figure it out. Yeah. And I was just also the time of my cycle when I get like insane. Yeah. And my mom was trying to calm me down. And like anytime my mom tries to calm me down, I instantly go the opposite. Oh, interesting. And I'm like, you know, like, reverting.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Yeah. And then she like said something to me like, you know, well, if you, if your body feels feels distress or whatever, bad things are going to cut. She said something where I was like, well, now I'm in anxiety for the rest of the day because like what the fuck's going to happen? Right. You just like cursed me. So negative.
Starting point is 00:07:48 Yeah. Now I'm cursed. And now I'm like, but it's like that anxiety spiral. Yeah. And then she corrected it very quickly. She was like, I didn't mean it like that. And I shouldn't have said bad. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:58 Whatever. Spiral comes for me in the middle of the night. Does it? Yeah. You wake up. Wake up. Like it's like such. not even arbitrary, it's like silly stuff.
Starting point is 00:08:11 You know what I mean? It's like things that I'm almost like, I know this isn't important. But now I'm like, but it really, it really spirals me. And then it affects my body, like my heart rate. And it's kind of almost not funny, but I'm like, this is not important. I know this isn't important. But right now it is so important. I think if I just, I'm really good at not looking at my phone in the middle of the night,
Starting point is 00:08:33 not to brag, but I mean ever. That's a big. If you look, you're fine. You can. You're screwed. So even if like, I would, even look at the time? No. Wow.
Starting point is 00:08:41 I don't either. I don't either. I just said that. I don't. And I don't either. I don't. In fact, I thought like, should I get a clock to just. Oh, I like that.
Starting point is 00:08:50 So you don't look at your phone. It's about the phone. Yeah. Also, sometimes if you, do you have a pop socket on the back of your phone? No. I used to. Sometimes if you like angle your phone like this all night, a screen comes on that's a clock. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:03 Do you know what I'm talking about? Yes. Really? But not always. Not always. It's also red. Right? Which is really creepy.
Starting point is 00:09:09 Yeah. Yeah. It's like the devil's clock. But yeah. But so then I think like, oh, maybe I should write this stuff down because then part of the spiral is like this is important or this is like this is a little detail. You forgot to put this person on the list or whatever. You're not going to remember this in the morning.
Starting point is 00:09:28 And then that becomes part of the spiral. So I can fix it right now. I should have a notepad by my bed with a pen. It's done. And a book light. And then it's done in a booklight. What are we doing? What are we doing?
Starting point is 00:09:39 It's because at night, like, it's just like the next day it just sort of goes away. And you don't almost like remember it again until. You don't remember it again. And it's not as crucial. Yeah, exactly. You're like, oh, that was silly. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:50 But in the middle, you're, it's so heightened that it's like the thing. Yeah. Forever. But I find all of that. Like, it's just, I think you get older and you're just like, oh, everything's really fucked up and a little bit scary. Yeah. She's like, why?
Starting point is 00:10:07 in my hair. No, it is though. It is. No, I am. No, I am. Yeah. No, it is. It is. It's like sometimes, sometimes I'm like, will anything ever be good again? Yeah. Or even if something is good, there's also something bad forever now. Constance. Again, the negative because you can't hope it. Yeah. Yeah. I struggle so much. I, I, I know. I love this. Come on. Come on. We're struggling girls. I love you. The cheek bones. The cheek bones. All you have to is compliment her. She's like, I'm yours. Do you seek out negative things?
Starting point is 00:10:46 No. I'm like, I'm like, I'm, wait, do I? I don't know. Like, are you looking for, like, the murderer or like, you know what I mean? Like, I need to know. The murderer? Who the kidnapper is? No, I am like out of sight, out of mind. If I don't see it, it doesn't exist. To a fault, you know. I don't know how people. rest at night not knowing knowing who the murderer is yes right like where nancy is where who
Starting point is 00:11:10 who killed why did that guy david killed that girl and put her in his trunk like did he the musician see this is like i know just like like like it's like a little breeze that goes through my brain where i'm like i know you're talking about yeah i know you're talking about but i don't follow the the trail i don't either she obsessively does and my husband does too oh he does and and we're sort of i mean i think that's good for what's this ying yang type thing that's pretty good. Yeah, that was that. Did you have that on deck?
Starting point is 00:11:37 I think it's pretty good for it. Whoa. What are my hands doing? But I, you know, he's like, you have to know everything in order to know that it's it exists and it's real. And I'm like, I don't want to. But I don't want to. Right.
Starting point is 00:11:53 I'm sort of like if, and I think our brains are different and everybody's brains are different. But I'm like, if I know about it, it's the only thing I can think of. I'm like, it affects. Sometimes I feel like I. I feel like things, maybe this is like so self-centered, but I almost feel like things affect me more than the average person. That's not a soft sense. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:14 I'm like, I can't. You're probably an empath. Maybe, maybe. But we're, yeah, yeah. Are you? I think I used to be. And I've trained out of it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:26 That's probably healthy and smart. My daughter is. Yeah. I don't know that I am. And how do you record? Fuck everybody. Yeah. Well, that's great.
Starting point is 00:12:34 How do you recognize? recognize that in her. She's super sensitive and like just feels things stronger. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, yeah. And it also, maybe like overactive imagination, something, which I've, I feel like I've always had too.
Starting point is 00:12:49 So, so yeah, I'm like a scared cat with certain things. And so then if I'm reading, if I go down the, the, no, it's really smart. Do you answer the door of someone that you don't know is coming? No. No. Never. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:02 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No. Yeah. No. Yeah, no. Is there anyone that actually does?
Starting point is 00:13:07 Maybe. Men? Like my... Yeah, I was going to say boys. Yeah. Yeah. Maybe men. Like my daughter's selling Girl Scout cookies and she's knocking and I'm like, I would never I would never answer my door.
Starting point is 00:13:16 Well, I guess it, oh God. I mean, obviously a parent is with her. An adult is with her, right? Yes. Obviously, you're like, what? That's like, you know what I just did? Obviously, a parent is with her. Like, if the answer was no, I would put you in such a situation.
Starting point is 00:13:30 I'd be like, absolutely. That's what would you'd think of tonight while you're sleeping? This is, again, not the same thing, but we're renovating our house right now. And I got a text from my mom today that was like, I just watched something about like kitchen sinks. She was like, you're not getting a double, right? You're getting a big one. Like she was sort of like, of course you're not getting a double. Oh, no.
Starting point is 00:13:48 And I was like, fuck, we're getting a double now for the rest of time. I will know that I made the wrong. Yeah, exactly. You're going to look at the fucking double sink. Yeah. And you're going to be like, why? Yeah. I think we're getting a double.
Starting point is 00:14:00 Maybe we're not. This is what are the pros and cons, though? That's what I actually want to know. Okay, what do you guys have? And let's talk about it for the rest of the podcast. I don't have a double. I don't have a sink. Well, I don't right now.
Starting point is 00:14:11 I have a double right now. I find it useful. I do too. Because I like to put the things that are like rinsed off on that side and then the things that are. It's almost like organizing. Yeah. I don't love my single. You don't love.
Starting point is 00:14:24 I don't love a single. That house we're in right now has a single. We're like, you know, renting while we're renovating. Renting is so funny. Whatever. Whatever. Yes, it has a big, a big old big boy. And I love it.
Starting point is 00:14:41 You do. But then our house before had a double and I love that. So I guess I'm just easy to. I feel like people say about it. I need to know. Where's my phone? I think she was just, I don't know. Should I?
Starting point is 00:14:55 Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I am curious. Yes. Because I remember when we were redoing ours, our interior designer was like helping measure because I was like, I don't. I don't know how to pick a sink. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Like that's weird. And she was like this. And it was a single. Okay. Just a single, big old. The house that we are renovating that we love, but is from another time. It's so old. It's so old.
Starting point is 00:15:21 And nothing was ever redone. It was like an old metal sink. And one was low and one was high. Huh. I don't like that. But that's how my old one is. It's annoying. Right.
Starting point is 00:15:33 But it is. Like, I guess I am easy to please because I'm like, it's good for some things. Like, I like putting my, I don't know what. Would I put my coffee cup in? Your mugs. Yeah. Yeah. But why?
Starting point is 00:15:42 Because they're up there. Because they're up there. There's no further reason. Explanation. Then they're up there. Exactly. And the other things go down there. Okay.
Starting point is 00:15:49 She said, what kind of kitchen sink will you have? I just read an article that said, do not in all caps get a double sink. That's such good advice. A single sink, the bigger the better. That's the ticket. Mama. Mom. Now what?
Starting point is 00:16:02 The bigger is a better. the better. Also, just do not get it. It's also so funny because I'm like, we already ordered it. Yeah, you're like, it's already done. But that's what moms do. I'm telling you, they know how to just get you. Right. You're like, mom, why the fuck did you just say that? Because now I'm going to be obsessing. Right. If you just didn't say that thing.
Starting point is 00:16:18 We love our moms. We love so much. We love so much. That's why we can get so mad. That's so true. Because she's my world. She's my everything. I know. I know. Also, what the fuck, mom? But also, I like that she doubled down on it. Like, that is such great advice. Exactly. Like, right. It's like, it's like, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:16:35 I read this article. What do you think? She's like, that's, that's the ticket. Yeah. Where does your mom live? My parents live in the Bay Area. Oh, okay. Is that what you grew up?
Starting point is 00:17:00 I grew up there, yeah. Nice. In the East Bay, like near, you know, I don't know. I'm going to like start going into Bay Area, like geography. Why? I don't know. I grew up in a town called Danville, which is like maybe 20 minutes from Berkeley. Okay.
Starting point is 00:17:15 Across the bridge, San Francisco. and most of my family is in the Bay Area still. Oh, that's nice. Do you miss it? I do miss it. I do miss it. I mean, I'm like not enough to move back, but I don't even really mean it like that. I love the Bay Area.
Starting point is 00:17:31 And do often think like I could live here again, but I'm just such a little company girl. I love working. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You could live there. People do.
Starting point is 00:17:46 People do. People do. You could live there. One could. I guess I mean, an actor could. But I feel like the actors that do live there are like the richest actors you've ever heard. They're really successful. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:56 They just go. Yeah. But I do love it there. We were just there a couple weeks ago. Actually, I've never lived in San Francisco. That's like almost like a ride of passage for a Bay Area girl. And I just didn't do that. I just moved right to New York, you know.
Starting point is 00:18:10 You did. Yeah. I said, you know. Like, you know. We did. I mean, we read your way. No, you know. Okay.
Starting point is 00:18:14 I mean, come on. We did know. We did know that. Yeah, you did. So you know. We know. Yeah. But all of my friends growing up, everybody lived in San Francisco for a time.
Starting point is 00:18:24 Like, I actually know New York so much better than I know San Francisco. Is that right? That's interesting. Yeah. How long were you in New York? I was in New York for 11 years. Oh, wow. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:32 A long time. And I feel like I know every single street in New York. Like, I feel like I have a memory or a something on every fucking street in New York. And in San Francisco, I'm always like, which way is, I don't know which way anything is. You know? That's very interesting. Would you mean? Would you move back there?
Starting point is 00:18:48 Back to New York. No, I wouldn't. I would. I love New York. I love going there to work. I love going there for a spell. Sure. For like a, even a long time.
Starting point is 00:19:02 Like I did a play there, so I got to be there for four months a couple years ago. That's fun. I was like, this is it. This is the move. It's like spend a good chunk. I think I love New York so much. Wait, have either of you guys live there? No.
Starting point is 00:19:14 I always wanted to. Yeah. It's like. Me too. It's like the best place to live, but I like living here better. Best place to live without children? Right? Yeah, without children.
Starting point is 00:19:25 I don't know. I mean, I babysat in New York, so I like was with children a lot and it was hard. Yeah. I always kind of had that thought where I was like, damn, this is so much harder than, you know, not. How long did you do that? I was a nanny. You were? Yes.
Starting point is 00:19:38 I was a nanny for a long. I like, hold on now. How long? I want to say 10 years. Well, the whole time I was there, really. And here for a couple years. Like up until right before I got the, like right before I started like working for real. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:53 Yeah. I think it's a great. I do too. I do too. Can you nanny for Bill and Maggie? I did. Yeah. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 00:20:01 Mm-hmm. I did. I read your Wikipedia. My wiki. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that, that, um, it is a great gig especially for like, just for that sort of day joby, like, like I was wait I was temping and all those jobs just were like actually waitressing is so fun but as far I think it's so hard it's hard it's so and nannying is like hard but it's like so rewarding and lovely and it didn't hang out with
Starting point is 00:20:28 the kids it's so it's to me it wasn't soul sucking either like waitressing felt soul sucking yes like I feel like that I was treated as if I was like not a human whereas nannying at least in my experience the families you become part of the family it's like it's like it's like it's like it's You get a slice of like home. Yeah. It's not toxic. Yeah. Unless you work for toxic people.
Starting point is 00:20:52 Well, that's the other thing is like I would I would like really spread it out. I would like nanny for so many families. And the second I didn't like one of the parents, I'd be like, I'm busy. You know, I just would be like, I'm busy. So I only worked for people that I liked and I only worked for babies that I liked. Yeah. Because not all babies are created equal. No, but kind of where you're just like, I don't connect with you, baby.
Starting point is 00:21:13 Oh, yeah. And that was the thing. about the haters is I was like I like fell in love with their daughter. Yeah. And then I was just like this is my place. That's amazing. It really is like just about connection. Totally. Connecting with people. And that's in the workplace too. Yeah. Like on TV, film whatever. Yeah. It's the same thing. You mean like working with people that you like and not working with toxic people? Totally. And there's always going to be toxic people. Right. Because that's just a given. Yeah. But it really is. But God. Damn. It sucks when there's hell. It's hell. When there's like a real. I mean, you know, like there's
Starting point is 00:21:44 always like a dud or whatever but like toxic people are scary so scary stay away well it's also contagious yeah that's true it's contagious yeah even belief systems are contagious yeah we know yeah yeah we are here we go here's our like I mean I'm just saying like scientifically like you are the some of the five people you spend the most time right so if you have someone that's like mm-hmm Nothing ever goes my way. Right. That kind of belief system. Then it starts to like wear off on you and like all of a sudden your thoughts start to go to that frequency.
Starting point is 00:22:22 I totally agree and even had to like sort of cut a friend out that I realized like was that. She was lovely, nice, funny, but I was like every time I'm with you, it's so negative and like so shit talky. And gossiping is fun, but it was like dark. It was just like there's love. Yeah, yeah. And I really had to be like, and that's also a hard thing to communicate with somebody, you know. I don't want to be like, you're toxic. Right.
Starting point is 00:22:51 Right. Yeah, it's just not a fit. I know. I know. Like you're fucked up. I know. No, please. What will I see the pad?
Starting point is 00:22:58 No. Oh, no. This is like me trying to end up. Yeah. You should a blur out on the feet. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:05 That's going to our tree on. That's really smart. The foot edit. Yeah. Yeah. So how did you? get out of that? I'm maybe like it's on this podcast. This is maybe not like a great no no no not maybe. This is not a great attribute. I can ghost. It's just easier. Sometimes it is and it's like very much
Starting point is 00:23:29 easier for me. You know, it's like it's really selfish. But I have ghosted a few in my life where like I don't know if I'm such a ghoster these days, but I feel like in in my in my earlier days. What a thing is like in my earlier days? I could just do that. I could just kind of be like, and I'm done. Yeah. I can do that too. What time are you? Cap. Does that mean anything? I don't know much about Cap. Yeah. I love that she asks it, but then she doesn't know. I know. I know. It could mean something. I don't know much about Cap either. I feel like everything I hear about it, I'm like, that's not me. And then occasionally there's like a few things. Yeah, where I'm like, whoa. Right. You got my ass.
Starting point is 00:24:09 But I don't know. I don't really. I don't really. What is my, I just found out that my, my niece is a triple. Yes. So it's my sister.
Starting point is 00:24:22 We're going to pray for your niece. She's amazing. We will light a candle. What will it be? She's just powerful. And she is. Cool. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:32 Powerful. Powerful. My daughter's a scorpio. I don't know if she's triple double. I feel triple is rare, right? Triples, ridiculous. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, really? Oh, yeah. I don't really know what any of this means, but it's like rising. Yeah, right. Rising and I don't know. It's like moon. Okay. Are wearing an or a ring? God damn. Do you love it? Well, you know what's funny is I just clocked my ass wearing this aura ring on a different podcast. And I was like, take it off. No, I'm happy you have it on because do I need it? Do you need it? Okay, here's what I love it for. It has really helped me walk more. Like, I am so competitive with my own. steps. Yeah, yeah. So it really has, like, when I just had the iPhone and I feel like it was like an
Starting point is 00:25:16 approximation. Yeah. Or I would just not. Oh, I've never even looked. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's not. I never once looked. I didn't even know you could. It's kind of fun to look. Yeah. But also it's like if you don't, if your phone's in your purse or I don't know, it just feels like always on you. You're like, those 10 steps, we're not fucking committed. I realized I was like getting so obsessed with it when I, I did Handmaid's Tale, a few episodes of Handmaid's Tale. And we, we did a lot of like, running scenes. And I would put my phone. Okay, imagine on a man mate's tail,
Starting point is 00:25:45 like boots with like socks. I would put it in like, because we shot it in Canada in the winter and outdoors, like layers and layers. And I would put my phone like up against my foot so that I would count the steps. And then I was like, I guess I should just start wearing
Starting point is 00:26:01 an aura ring, although I guess I couldn't have worn it on camera. But I was realizing like, yeah. But I would be like really into. There was like a running night especially and we got like how many. You're like, oh my God, running. There was a lot going on in that show. There sure was. A lot.
Starting point is 00:26:18 A lot. It's intense. It scared a lot of people. Wait, can you tell us about this Will Forte show? Yeah, I will. Please, because I'm so curious. Okay. What if she said no.
Starting point is 00:26:28 Yeah, I don't want to talk about it. No. I don't want to talk about it. That would be really funny to be doing press. Like, you know, your show's coming out next week and you go on a podcast and you don't. I'm sorry. That's the one thing. I don't want to talk about.
Starting point is 00:26:43 Do either of you guys know Will? No. Okay. Well, he's the best. You should have him on. I've heard so many stories. Yeah. And like I feel like he's the best.
Starting point is 00:26:51 He's like he's obviously so funny and crazy and nuts. But in real life he's like the sweetest little sweetie. He's like the most caring, generous, thoughtful. Like being funny is like a side part of him. Wow. He, like, really leads with kindness. That's crazy. Really.
Starting point is 00:27:12 You don't hear that often. Especially in comedians. Yeah. Right. Right. It's almost like when he's funny, it's like, whoa, oh, I forgot. You're so funny. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:27:22 Yeah. That's so interesting. And he's so funny. And he's so uniquely funny. I mean, he's the weirdest. Right. I love God. Seth Myers, remember he told about, like, his speech at his wedding?
Starting point is 00:27:32 It's the funniest thing I've ever. I mean, it is. I don't. He did his, didn't he do like his character? Yes. And I remember, like, at a wedding, imagine, in front of, like, all of your family. Your wife's family. Right. He's playing this character, this, like, really kind of disgusting, like, dirty guy. And he's like, and he says, I shouldn't like. He's basically like Alexi is Seth's wife. He's like, Alexi, the most perfect tits. Which is him. Like, when he goes into a character, he is gone. Yeah. It's really amazing.
Starting point is 00:28:08 So good. But anyway, he's so funny. We shot the show in Australia. And we didn't know each other going into it. You didn't know each other? We like have, it's so weird. We have so many friends in common, so many comedy friends in common. We grew up in the same town.
Starting point is 00:28:31 What? Just like he's older than me. So we didn't grow up at the same. But that's still crazy. It is crazy. Yeah. We actually like. looked at a map and a map on our phones.
Starting point is 00:28:41 I was like, we looked at our fucking phones. We opened a map. Yeah, Andrew. But we realized that like where his mom lives now is like a five minute bike ride. I'm saying bike ride because I was like a kid from where I lived. Wow. And where my, where my family ended up moving to was like down the street from where he grew up. Wow.
Starting point is 00:29:01 Like we, we, we, it's really funny how much we circle. There's like an old Taco Bell. one of the oldest Taco Bells is like closing down in our hometown. Oh, that's tragic. But just like he knows. When I said, did you hear about the Taco Bell? He's like, yeah. Like, he knows we really should have known each other when we were like kids.
Starting point is 00:29:21 Yeah. So I, so when this came my way, it was working with a director who I had worked with the good place and made a movie with who I adore and would have gone with him, you know, to Australia anyway. But then when he said Will Forte, I was like really excited. excited. But of course you were. I just like what an opportunity. Yeah. Yeah. And we met one, we had sushi one night like the week before we went out there and I was like, oh, fuck, I hope this is, we're about to spend four months together. Like I hope I like him. Yeah. And he's just the best. He's just
Starting point is 00:29:52 the best. I love him. Our like our, our, our husband-wife. How do you say that? Our spouses love each other. We like, I don't say that. Our husband wives love each other. that when I was our husbands and wives when I was in when we got to Australia my husband didn't join for like a month or two and so they just like adopted me
Starting point is 00:30:14 I just would like go to the zoo with them and go over for brunch and hang out with the kids and it was really sweet that's very sweet was that hard to be away from him for a month or two yes but always like knowing we will see each other again knowing that he's coming
Starting point is 00:30:29 you know like yeah they're like a light I'm kind of good with... But you guys have been together a long time. We've been together for so long. How long? Well, damn near 20 years. Holy smokes. I know.
Starting point is 00:30:40 That's a long. It's so long. It's fine. We just like, we have like, you know, the sort of, I feel like a lot of actors have like the three week rule, the two week rule or whatever. Yeah. But then COVID really messed that up. And I think we were apart for like three months while I was shooting something in the Dominican Republic. So now a month is like handled or maybe whatever it was in Australia.
Starting point is 00:31:00 I knew he was coming and I was so excited to like show him. Also, I was working every day. So yeah, if I was just like enjoying my time, I would be so bummed. But I was like busy. Yeah. Yeah. It's different to now with like FaceTime. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:14 It's not like, oh God, I'm bad at it. Even when you are away? Yes, I am. Which sometimes he has to be like, hey, focus up. You know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Remember let's like we, you know, I'm very not. this will sound worse than I mean it not out of sight out of mind we're texting all day
Starting point is 00:31:34 I feel like there's got to be a better word yeah I like it's like what I like what you say be in front of me you know what I mean totally I'm very out of sight out of mind you're like you know really enjoying the australia not that just like focusing on the thing in front of me and when the thing in front of me is work will farting can he imagine that's also I just have to say thank fucking God it's like the most non-sexual love totally that's all that's all It's the most like brother-sister vibe. Like some, I think, um, Trent who directed everything at one point was like talking to the crew about he was like, have you ever like seen such chemistry between or like non-sexual? Basically he was like such chemistry between two stars, but nothing sexual.
Starting point is 00:32:20 It was great. They're like, no, that's never been seen before. Usually it gets weird. It always gets weird. Always weird. Something weird. So tell us about this. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:31 So we, she told us. She didn't want to talk about it. And you're forcing me. And I don't like it. Okay. So Will and I play brother and sister. I'm like crazy wild card. Like, I'm like the tornado sister.
Starting point is 00:32:47 And he's like the straight lace like planner. We, um, we go to Australia because we've started this spray tan company. And for me, it's all about like like business and, you know, like like money and power. And for him. he's following his ex-wife back to Australia who just left him. And by the way, I'm so bad at this. You're doing great, great. We, I'm also like, how much do I tell?
Starting point is 00:33:13 I'm going to tell you, we, we, this is what I'm going to think about in bed tonight. I like it. He gets like blackmailed. He ends up like sleeping with someone in like a little, like a little drunken episode and ends up getting blackmailed for money that we don't have because we kind of act like we're like doing really well with the spray tanning company but we're not and so he's like a target he gets blackmailed he's a target he's a target for for smart business like like bad bad people bad guys and um so we get mixed up in the wrong crowd right he's getting blackmailed we don't have the money do things get
Starting point is 00:33:55 violent they do they do we end up maybe killing someone we shouldn't have we maybe do oh you do And then the whole show is just us trying to like outrun them, but also the spraytaining company is starting to do really well. So we can't leave Australia. On the plus side. Yeah. It's really fun. So it's like funny and crazy. And yeah, I did a bad job explaining it.
Starting point is 00:34:14 But it's really like a very dark comedy where there's like, you know, a lot of a lot of violence. Oh my God. Which is so fun to do. I love that. Wait, this is the best because like I was looking at all the things you have going on. Yeah. I think I blended to. And I thought you and Will were going staying in these houses.
Starting point is 00:34:38 Oh, I love this so much. And as I'm explaining it, are you like, what? And I'm like, where do the, where do the Airbnb is coming? That's so funny. And I'm like, wait, what spray tan did you're playing? Okay, great, great, great. So you're talking. No, but that show, I was like, this is amazing.
Starting point is 00:34:56 You and Will 14 is going. We should do that. You and I should do that in Australia. That's genius. That's genius. Oh my God. I was like so excited. I love, I love this so much.
Starting point is 00:35:12 This goddamn headgun box. The season two of either of these shows could be me and Will doing that. Oh my God, I'm dying. I just, it's just going to. I'm trying. Okay, so what you're mixing it up with is this show called Wild Vacation Rintels. with me and Sherry Cola, where we do exactly what you're saying. Okay.
Starting point is 00:35:37 We go to different will. With no will forte at all. What the hell? That is so funny. It's also funny because like depending on how much you mix them up, like, is that a scripted show? Is that an unscripted show? I would want it unscripted. Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:50 We should. Yeah. That's really funny. I'm excited for all of them anyway. Both. Everything. This is really funny. Everything with you in it, I'm excited for.
Starting point is 00:35:57 Now I'm like, oh, what's the scripted show about two people that are staying in a bunch of different Airbnbs? and maybe like haunted something. There's something. There's a life for that. Yes. So the other show that came out last week is it's called Wild Vacation Rendals. It's on HGTV.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I'm obsessed with those shows. Okay, good. And the fact that you are the one doing it and staying in these places, I'm so excited. It does sound so. Like, we're reading it. I was like, I love that. It's so fun. I love that.
Starting point is 00:36:23 So much for you and Will Forte. I know. Sherry Cola, who's the co-host right now, it's like, hey guys. Can you stop? It's me. Will we're just erasing her so I'm doing two shows with Will Forte one spritin I mean okay you should have Jerry Cole on to she's so great oh my god would love yeah yeah she um so we we go from from state to state staying in different rental properties
Starting point is 00:36:48 and they're not just like average that's such a weird way to say they're not your average property it's like we stay in a cave we stay in a tree house we stay in like a missile silo Wow. So really wild vacation rental. And yeah, it took a long time to come up with that name. And like unique properties. Wait, that sounds so fun though. It's so fun. And it was so fun. And it was, I've never really done like, have you done something like this? Like a very unscripted show? Well, we're doing it right now.
Starting point is 00:37:19 But, you know, where, yeah, it was such a like new experience. There's like certain things that they want you to hit. But not for some reason. Yeah, yeah, I guess there is. There is. I was going to say not on this show. but yes totally we have to like by the end of it we have like a way we judge the house you know got it which always as a me and your me and your daughter i almost said sister me and your daughter it's hard for me to judge a house yeah that's hard i don't want to say anything bad about a house no it's i really don't and so a couple of these houses friends have been like i love blah blah blah i totally want to take my family there and i'm like don't right right i didn't say this on air but don't
Starting point is 00:37:55 yeah don't do it no most of them are great most of them are great most of them are great most of them are great Most of them are great. I could never be a judge of anything. I know me neither. I judged the finale of the HGTV Bachelor Mansion. You did. This season. Yeah. Yes. How fun. It'll be on like we'll be back to back. Oh my God. Yeah. Really? I think they're always back to back. Wait, that's so cute. That's so cute. Yes, I did. So that was the first time and you have to judge. And you have to be a little, like, they definitely wanted me especially to be a little harsher. Sherry is better at that. Yeah. Okay. Did you have a like, were you like, were you like, this place sucks. Well, there were definitely, like I had definite strong opinions, but. But like I didn't really want to be honest. Right. I know. Can't come off like a complete, you know, whatever. A hole. B whole.
Starting point is 00:38:35 Yeah. But I had a song. I was like, what the fuck is there? Yeah. Oh, fun. But it was fun. Yeah. It was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:38:41 They have like their, you know, standing judges. Yeah. And they have a lot of fun. I have a hard time with like when the person that did the thing is standing there. Yeah. They're like right there. They're right there. Like is it cake.
Starting point is 00:38:53 Is it? Yeah. Is it? You haven't judged it yet. You should. You should. You should. You should.
Starting point is 00:38:57 You should. on that. I'm always like, why are you cheering when you get it right? I feel so bad for the people. Right. Yes. I'm like, don't fucking do it.
Starting point is 00:39:05 This is a little similar. There was one called, hold on. I feel like I saw you on one. Yeah. Because my daughter and I watched it all. It was a gingerbread one. Was it sugar? No.
Starting point is 00:39:15 No. It was called like. What's the other one with, is it with the sprinkles lady? No. Maybe that's sugar crush. This one is called Gingerbread Lane or something like that. It was like a holiday special.
Starting point is 00:39:26 With Oliver Hudson. What? Interesting. Wait, really? Yeah. This is getting, this is getting crazy. This is the Wilford's Averson. Yes.
Starting point is 00:39:35 You're like, oh no, sorry. I only judged one episode like you, but it was like where all these gingerbread makers are standing in front of you and they're like, tears are like overflowing in their eyes and you're like, not you. Wait, you and Oliver Hudson judged it together. She was the host. And I was just a random ass judge in one, yeah. But Oliver Hudson hosting it gingerbread? He was great. Competition.
Starting point is 00:39:59 Yeah. Things are just, I know, he was really great. I know. Is he for me? Uh-huh. I don't, I mean,
Starting point is 00:40:04 I don't know. No, he was. He's totally funny. Oh, that's awesome. Yeah. Yeah. Our friend fumbled him. So I think we've paid attention.
Starting point is 00:40:11 Oh, gotcha. Funny. Fumbled like, like he wanted it and she said, no, no, no. Okay. She fumbled it.
Starting point is 00:40:17 It just sounds. Yeah. Yeah. I thought he was always like hot guy. He's hot guy. So he's funny. Okay. Charming.
Starting point is 00:40:22 Yeah. Funny. Funny. Funny. Funny. I don't know them. I don't know them either. But they all seem like they have a great sense of humor.
Starting point is 00:40:32 Humor seems like at the dashing good looks. Dashing good looks. All of them. Dashing good looks. Am I losing hair rapidly? Dashing good looks and humor is at the forefront. That's the most important thing. I agree.
Starting point is 00:40:45 I had an argument with someone the other day because my daughter, I was like, all our friends think she's funny. Yeah. And they were like, that's not the most important thing. Excuse me? What? What else is there? Who's this dumb person? Sorry.
Starting point is 00:40:56 Like a very dumb person. That's not the most important thing. What is like, I mean, I guess what I'd be curious what they think the most important thing is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Like kindness.
Starting point is 00:41:09 Kindness. Yeah. Kindness is great. Yeah. Kindness is great. Kindness is very important. It goes under her humor though. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Humor is number one. No matter what. But, yeah. I guess there's also different kinds of humor. Of course. There's different kinds of humor. And like, no, humor's humor. But like mean, I guess I'm like, people that are like punching down.
Starting point is 00:41:26 Yeah. It's not great. Yeah. People think sometimes, like, my husband will say that wasn't funny, that was mean. And that happens to Rachel all the time too. With your sense of humor. Yeah. And somebody will say it.
Starting point is 00:41:39 They'll be like, that was mean. Only men. There's someone. Oh, interesting. Only men. Only men were never like, that wasn't funny. Interesting. That was mean.
Starting point is 00:42:01 A very long time ago, I remember dating someone in my youth. And they were like, you're mean. Interesting. And I'm like, oh my God, you're not funny. Right. You don't get it. That was funny. Like, yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:11 I think that men are really sensitive to that stuff. Yes. I think their egos are easily bruised in a way that's like kind of astounding in a way that we have like swallowed our whole entire lives. And I think if you look into your like teachers, dads, whoever teachers, men, I'm like thinking of adult men. Like adult men when you're a kid, we are like trained. to not, women get, we make fun. I mean, I'm like, I actually don't even really mean my mom and dad, because I feel like my dad has a great sense of humor about stuff like this.
Starting point is 00:42:50 But the way we make fun of moms, for example, and you know what I mean? Like the way like a husband can make fun of his wife, that it's just like a cute thing that we do. It's just like, it's just like very accepted. And if you watch, like if a wife was to make fun of her husband, the way it would like the chill in the room. Yeah, you know what I mean? I just think it's really accepted for us to make fun of women and it's not accepted for us to make fun of women. So do you think that or do you think we're meaner to men in our jokes
Starting point is 00:43:22 than we are to women? Like would I say something to a man that I think they can take? Interesting. That's an interesting way. That's an interesting point. But I wonder, well, is it like because you think you could take it or is it because you like hate them? Are you guys okay?
Starting point is 00:43:38 No, no, I don't even mean like, no. I just mean like, I'm not even talking about any. of our syniffs. I mean, like, general, in general. I think if I'm joking with anyone,
Starting point is 00:43:48 it's never because I hate them. Yeah, right. Because if I hate them, I'm just not even in communication. In fact, I feel like I have, like this is, you know, high school, young, young, young,
Starting point is 00:44:00 like have joked with someone I hate or don't like. Yeah. And it goes so dark so quickly that I'm like, I don't like the way that feels. Right. Like I remember like not liking a girl
Starting point is 00:44:09 and kind of like, like making a this sounded very bullish and I don't think I was a bully at all. It was like one instance where I was like I didn't like her. She was mean and I had an opportunity to sort of like clown on her ass and I made a joke
Starting point is 00:44:27 and everybody laughed and I was like oh I won but then I was like I don't like that was like too mean. Yeah. Does that make sense? Totally like below the belt. Yeah it was just like or even like too yeah yeah. It was too easy.
Starting point is 00:44:41 It was too easy. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get that. You know, when you have those like almost like life altering moments as small as they may be where you're like, I don't want to ever do that again. Yeah. That didn't feel good.
Starting point is 00:44:51 It doesn't take. Let's hear more of those. I know. What else do you have? Oh, God. What are those moments? I know. Like just air it all.
Starting point is 00:44:59 Let's see. Like, I remember like, let's see, let's see. I'm also like, it's also funny. I know you guys know this, but the difference of what I would tell you off mic. Yeah, of course. Immediately, I'm like, some have come to my mind too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Filter, filter, filter.
Starting point is 00:45:18 Yeah. Love you, audience. I'd go to jail if I told you my name right now. Yeah. But let's see. Like right now. She's like, I killed someone and I was like, I'm not going to do that again. I didn't like the way that felt.
Starting point is 00:45:29 No, I did not like that. Yeah, I'm thinking of like, I'm going to keep it super, super general. Yeah. But maybe like, and this is early on, but like being caught in a lie. Mm-hmm. And the person being like, you don't have to do that. And me being like, whoa. You know?
Starting point is 00:45:45 You don't have to lie. It's so much easier to not. And it feels like the feeling I have right now is like I never want to feel this again. Yeah. So yeah. So that's one. That's a good one. That is a good one.
Starting point is 00:45:57 Yeah. I think that's experiential. You get to, you don't learn that until you go through it. Yeah. Right? Like as kids, kids will stretch the truth. Yeah. And then one day there's a consequence for that.
Starting point is 00:46:08 And then that's when it changes hopefully. Totally. Right. Right. consequences. So one little thing about lying that I find interesting is
Starting point is 00:46:19 any white lie. Yeah. Even if you're like, I'm sorry there was no coffee so I was late. I had to go somewhere else, right? She's like calling me out. Yeah. I mean that's exactly what's happening right now. So even if
Starting point is 00:46:36 and this fucks with me because once I know something I can't unknow it. Yeah. Because then I'm like, oh, I'm going to do that to myself. So you do a white lie, little white lies, and you think they're harmless. But what you're doing is you're signaling your subconscious mind that you're not trustworthy. To yourself? Yes. Yes. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:57 So then you have low self-esteem because you're never going to like have high esteem for someone that lies to you. And so you're signaling your own. Damn. I know. Isn't that fucked up? That's really good. It is. You know, like good to remember.
Starting point is 00:47:11 It's a real good. thing to come back to of like that same question is like how do I want to feel I don't want to feel like that yeah I don't want to feel uncomfortable and I will little by little by little I'm not going to have faith in myself right right and it's hard I think I need to hear this right now because I do think I am guilty of white life I'm like I do a lot of little ones to make someone feel better almost unnecessary too yeah and it and I think I'm like I caught myself the other day and This is a good, this is a good, like, putting it, putting a face to a name. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:47:47 What? Like, being able to sort of name it. Yeah. And having, you're smart. They text me. That's why we're doing this. Who's they? The person you lied to.
Starting point is 00:47:55 Oh. It's an intervention. It's an intervention. We've had a camera on you. Once you said yes to this. That's what the show is. It's candid camera. We've been tracking your phone.
Starting point is 00:48:07 But that is a hard game to play with yourself. Yeah. It's like, can I find the truth? in this? Yeah. Right. Do I look fat? Oh. Like, what do you do? Right. To yourself. No, to other people. Okay, okay. Oh, God. What do you do though? What do you do? Okay, hold on. What do you do? What do? I mean, I never, like, that one's tricky. That one's so tricky. God, damn, I'm that person for saying it. Right. What do you do? Who? You could be like, that's not my favorite outfit. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:43 Maybe it's not the most flattering outfit. Flattering is always a way to do it. A safe way to go. Yeah. But I feel like we're honest. Like you guys are honest with each other. I feel like my husband and I are really honest with each other about that stuff and not in a hurtful way. Never hurtful.
Starting point is 00:48:56 Yeah. So like what would you say? But to me, I feel like being honest is like the most comforting thing you could do for someone. Yeah. Other than being like, no, what you're seeing is they're like, I'm seeing this. Do you see it? And you're like, no. I don't.
Starting point is 00:49:11 And they're like. But I see. Yeah, totally. And don't you feel like it makes you trust each other more? Yes. 100%. And then it's like, you know, because I feel like my husband and I are honest with each other about stuff like, about everything, but about stuff like this.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Yeah. It's like when he says you look great, I believe it. Right. Because he's honest. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I meant. Like what the things he says to you to make you believe, like whatever he says.
Starting point is 00:49:33 Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you got to appreciate that. Yeah. I do.
Starting point is 00:49:40 Okay. Let's play more of this. What? What else? Well, I was thinking like, what about to your kids? That's hard. That's hard. Like, can I, mom, can I sing? Oh, right. Honey. What do you do? Yeah, yeah. Right. I mean, I guess like so much of it is about like, you'll be like, this is not for you. She's not a liar. You're like, straightforward, mama.
Starting point is 00:50:02 If my kid was like, can I sing and they couldn't? Yeah. I would say, of course you can sing. Does that feel good to sing? I'm not going to say you're great at it. But you guys, this makes me want to cry. You can. It's so good. We're here. My husband sent this to me the other day. I'm going to botch it, but I'm going to give you a gist.
Starting point is 00:50:22 He's hot, by the way. He's so hot. Isn't he so hot? Thank you. And he's a doctor. He sent me this thing the other day that said this woman had to tell her son that he's being kicked. Did I tell you this? That he's being kicked out of school.
Starting point is 00:50:38 Okay. Because he's a genius. and the school doesn't have the capacity to teach him, right? They don't have the facilities. They don't have the teachers. He's too smart for the school, so he's going to have to leave. And so they took him to a different school. Grows up, the mom's dying.
Starting point is 00:50:59 He goes through her stuff and he finds the letter from the school. I can't. And it says, your son is no longer allowed at the school. he has an inability to learn. He has no capacity for learning. His behavior is such that we cannot help him anymore. You have to find a new school for him. Thomas Edison.
Starting point is 00:51:23 Is this true? Yes. Oh, my God. Yes. I've heard this story and that was like for the first time again. Oh, that's amazing. So it's basically saying like if he had. He believed in himself and believed that about him.
Starting point is 00:51:38 Wow. And you can lie. The Thomas Edison drop was amazing. So that, but she knew her son was a genius. Right, right, right, right. So it's not like saying you're a shit singer. Right. But it is, you have the capacity to take your voice as far as you want to.
Starting point is 00:51:57 Right, I love that. Right. Like, you don't want to gaslight them and be like, you're amazing. Yeah. Right. I don't know. Isn't that a good one? Really good.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Really good. I mean, we just dropped that. I love that it was like, guess who the kid was? Thomas, fucking. Mother fucking Edison. I love moments like that. Like the drop, the drop.
Starting point is 00:52:19 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's great. That's great. That's great. But it also is like, okay, so people do rise to the expectation. Yeah. Right. Right. And just instead of like closing the door on something, which is that would have been that.
Starting point is 00:52:33 It would have been like, I'm an idiot. Yeah, I can't do it. Yeah. I love that. You too. And then there's all, I mean, I'm trying to think of like ways my parents, you know, would have lied or whatever. Yeah, I think it was hard. Santa.
Starting point is 00:52:48 Yeah, that's a big one. That's a huge lie that we do. That my little sister is really reckoning. Reckoning with? Is that the right word? Well, here's the thing. This isn't a lie because I don't say Santa's real. Okay.
Starting point is 00:52:59 That's where she's at too. I say, do you believe? Right. And if they say, I don't know, I say, okay, well, let's see if he brings you presents. Right, right. So I'm not like, Santa is real. You must believe. Right.
Starting point is 00:53:10 But I'm like, I choose to believe in Christmas magic. Right. So I'll say things like that because I kind of do. Yeah. Right? I know it is tricky. I mean, it's tricky. And I know and I like don't even.
Starting point is 00:53:20 Their lies. They're false. They're false. Because it's like, you could definitely. They're necessary lies. Yeah. Yeah. You could.
Starting point is 00:53:28 The parents that are like overly honest. Yeah. You know, they're like fucking Santa never existed. Yeah. You know, like that vibe. I just feel like why. Yeah. Why crush these little?
Starting point is 00:53:39 I asked my dad so young. You did. And he told me the truth. He did? Yeah. But I think I was like four. Oh, that's really young. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Are you all right? No, I was fine. I was fine and he wasn't like, I think he did a great job because he wasn't like, he's like, yeah, we were lying or whatever. He was like, it was that like, what do you think? And like, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that would be a little hard for him to get to all the houses.
Starting point is 00:54:02 And, you know, it was like that type of thing. And then I was, I was like, here's. what we'll do will set out what will like set out a card and it will say like Merry Christmas from and if he signs it he's real oh that's great but then my dad was like I don't think that's like he was like that puts him in a position where he has to then sign it so he I just remember being like I figured it out and he was like let's not do that oh wow did you grow up with a dad with integrity I guess I did that's outstanding yeah he was he was I mean is he's a winner and integrity down in a good way.
Starting point is 00:54:39 He's amazing. Yeah. Totally. You're close to your dad. Yeah. That's really, really cool. Denny and Lori. Good parents.
Starting point is 00:54:45 Aw. Good sweet parents. I love them. Yeah. Yeah. That's really sweet. And they're still together. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:50 Still together. Wow. Since, ready for it? Yeah. High school. What? Which I don't stand for. I don't believe that.
Starting point is 00:54:58 But it worked for them. But here you are like 20 years deep. I know, but you know what's funny is because like it wasn't I. Because we, Jason and I had both like had. you know, had the dated people before. Yeah. We were in our 20s. It felt very adult.
Starting point is 00:55:11 Yeah. It also felt too soon. We also knew it was too soon. We were sort of like, let's not. Right. And then our bodies had a different idea. I'm just kidding. But, you know, we were like, I think we sort of recognize, like, if we do this, it's, it's on.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Yeah. So we did push against it for a while and then you can only push so long. Yeah. But since high school, they've got to see. Do you believe in soulmates? Do you believe in abortion? Do you believe abortion? in his real.
Starting point is 00:55:38 Let's see. Yes, but I also feel like this is, I think, very like unromantic. I think you could have like multiple soulmates, I think. Yeah. But maybe that's soulmates is different
Starting point is 00:55:50 than like true love. Yeah. Soulmates is like, I don't know. Like friends are soulmates. Yeah. I mean, I do think I, I mean, I guess I still would say I think you can have multiple.
Starting point is 00:56:03 But maybe that, what is it soul might? Is this soul might like specific? specifically like your one soul's mate. Do you live in soulmate? Like a lot of pressure. I know. Yeah, I don't, do you? I believe in soul clusters.
Starting point is 00:56:17 Yeah, I like that. I think like we come in and like wake stuff up. Yeah, yeah. Inside of each other. I love that. Yeah, I do too. It's like that. It may be like, you know, friendship can be like tiered, best friend, close friend or whatever.
Starting point is 00:56:29 Maybe soulmates are like even on top of best friends, you know? Yeah. Yeah. On top of best friends. I don't know. I like my soul made on top of my best. No, I don't like that, actually. No, thank you.
Starting point is 00:56:44 No, thank you. And your third show. Okay. So much going on. We have to hit them all. My third show is me and Will Forte. In Antarctica. Again.
Starting point is 00:56:55 We, I, I, uh, it's a show called five-star weekend, which is based on a book by Ellen Hildebrand that if you haven't read, your sister has or your cousin has. It's like everyone knows. Okay, yeah. Like when I told, we should do that for our book club. Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah. When I, um, told my older sister, we were FaceTiming and I was like, I booked that job. And she was like, um, and she was like, which one or whatever? And I told her the name of it. And she like, like, reaches down and picks up the book. She's like, oh, how cool. It's like, you know, very, um, a fun book and a great writer. Um, okay, so it is listen to this god. God.
Starting point is 00:57:35 damn cast. Jennifer Garner, Regina Hall. Holy. Chloe 70. Gemma Chan. Wow. Judy Greer.
Starting point is 00:57:43 Wow. Timothy Oliphant. Gee. I know. That's banana splits. It's so fun. It's banana splits. That's amazing.
Starting point is 00:57:50 Yeah. And it's like a... Who's the most toxic? This was like the sort of like the, especially since we've wrapped, all we talk about is like, I can't believe it went that well. Yeah. Like there was no, no duds. Dix, no toxic. It was really...
Starting point is 00:58:07 That's massive. It was a kind of... I mean, I think I've been lucky on a lot of really non-toxic sets, but this one was just like... It was a bunch of like professionals, you know? Like, they're not fucking wrong. Yeah. Yeah. That's amazing. No room for any of that. Yeah. So it takes place over a weekend. Jen's character... This isn't spoilers. This is all in the... This is my fear.
Starting point is 00:58:33 Spoilers. I know. I know. She loses her. her husband and to death. He dies. And realizes that she's sort of like lost touch with all of her best friends. So the five star weekend is what it's called. And she invites a friend from each like phase of her life to come to Nantucket, to her home in Nantucket and give them like a five star weekend. Like like, you know, food and drink and shopping and spa and all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:59:03 And do you think some stuff goes? wrong. Yeah, it does. Right. Yeah. But you know, it's like childhood friend, college friend, mom friend, all that stuff. That's really fun. Really fun. And what friend are you? I'm mom friend. Your mom friend. Yeah. Got it. Which is really fun. That's fun. Yeah. I'm sort of like, happy to be here. Can't believe I'm included. Like that type of friend. You know what I mean? She's got like the best, you know, childhood and college. Right. And then I'm just sort of like, look at me. Hi here. Which was so fun. So fun. And we got to shoot in Antucket. Oh, you actually in L.A. and Nantucket. Wow. Which was just fun. Just like, that's so fun. It was like three months or so here. Great, fun, amazing, but like hard work. Six day weeks. We like really went for it. And then Nantucket, not that we didn't also work hard, but it was like a vacation. Yeah. We like, you know, was it in the summer. Was it in the summer? It was in September, which is even better. Yeah. So it's not as crowded. Yeah. Yeah. A lot of. I want to do that. I know. I'm like, me, I want to go. I know. I know. That was, you know, like, I feel like. I feel like. I feel like. I feel like. I feel like. I feel like. I feel like. I feel like. I. I. I feel like. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I. I
Starting point is 01:00:05 with every job, with every acting job, whatever, I'm just so grateful for it no matter what. And you do, you know, some are just, the perks are better than others. Some you're like, okay, great, I'm going to like the middle of nowhere to like stay in a shitty hotel, but I, you know, like whatever it is, you're just like for like a low budget, no money, but you do it. And then you get these other ones where you're like, I get to go on vacation. Yeah. Yeah. Where it's very fun. Yeah. All your thing, I cannot wait to watch all of them. I think you might like them all. I, 100%. I'm going to like them all. Great. Yeah. It's a knowing. Yeah. Yeah. K-N-O-W? Yeah. Or it's a no. No, it's a no. It's a no. It's a no. For me. That's a no. Anything with you in it, Darcy. That's nice. Well, you're just awesome. Do you know that we've been co-stars before? You have? What? Oh, to do list? Yes. Yeah. Oh. No, but I mean, I'm, the joke is that I have like one line in it. Oh. That counts. I have to say, like, Maggie, that movie is so funny. It's kind of like, it's kind of like. It's kind of like, you. It's kind of like, Love it.
Starting point is 01:01:05 I mean, could we call it like a modern classic? Yeah, I think we can. I mean, it is like the just, it's not that long ago. It wasn't that long ago. But looking at that cast is insane. It's so, it's crazy. And it is so funny. It's kind of funny.
Starting point is 01:01:26 Aubrey is, she just. She's amazing. Amazing. Yeah. The whole thing. A little like ahead of its time. Yeah. Yeah, it just was such, it's such a funny, it's such a funny movie.
Starting point is 01:01:34 It's such a funny movie. It's such a funny. I wish more people. Me too. It feels like one, I guess when I say modern classic, I'm like, I'm like, I don't know what modern classic means, but I feel like it's one that will like stay on the test of time. Like if it had like a big Netflix moment or something right now, it'd be on. I feel like so many people. I feel like they should really do you should, right?
Starting point is 01:01:51 What was your line? Something along the lines of like. What scene was it? It was like, do you remember what the original title of that movie was? Hand job. Yes. Yes. It was the Tishol's handjob scene.
Starting point is 01:02:04 It was the hand job. Oh, in the theater? In the theater. It was called the hand job, which is a great name. It's like, let's bring it back for the reboot. I know. It should be called the to-do list, colon, the hand job. Yeah, 100%.
Starting point is 01:02:18 For the reboot or whatever, for the Netflix job. But I, but the hand job is happening behind me. And I'm in the scene with my husband, Jason, who was one of the producers. Like, you know, he was worked with Maggie. And this was back in, like, this is my husband. now so long ago. This is back in the days where he was like an actor-producer. Is that how he met him? We met doing a play together. Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. But then, and then he was acting and, you know, he moved to New York and with me and we, he was acting. He was like, yeah. And then his day job was
Starting point is 01:02:51 in a production house. And then he just like became obsessed with that side. Right. And very quickly was like, oh, this is what, he was like, acting is for dorks. He's like, I don't really. I don't really. want to be like standing around his set all day being told what to do. I was like, oh yeah, that makes sense. Yeah. But anyway, so yeah, so he, he and I are in the movie theater and I'm like, you have to say something, something like that. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We're going to pull up that clip right now. I'm just thinking about it. He had like a beard and they had him shave his beard. And so it was like a 90s, right? 80s, 90s. A 90s mustache. And this was like, I think this was the first movie I was ever in. And truly, I mean one one line.
Starting point is 01:03:37 Yeah. Yeah. But so happy to be there, was their nanny. And it was just like, Maggie screw me an absolute bone. I mean. I know. I know. So many people can do that.
Starting point is 01:03:47 She's like, that's amazing. She was so great. Yeah. And the movie is so smart and so funny. Yeah. It really is. It really is. Revisited America.
Starting point is 01:03:56 Yeah, everyone. The to do-do list. Yeah. It's nasty. It's like, don't watch it with your kids. Yeah. It's very. It's called the hand job.
Starting point is 01:04:02 It was called the hand job. It's all you need to know. And if you don't know what that means, you definitely should. You should not watch it. Oh, or you should. To learn. Oh, actually. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:10 But just not with your parents. Helpful. Yeah. Not with your parents or children. Yeah. Oh, hand jobs. Oh, hand jobs. And that'll be part two of the podcast.
Starting point is 01:04:18 So, oh, my God. Thank you so much. Look, you guys. Thanks for having me. You're the best. I'm nothing. No, you are. Oh, I'm great.
Starting point is 01:04:28 Oh, yeah. Do the negative thing. I'm great. My hair is very brushed well. I am wearing some comfortable pants No, look it Okay
Starting point is 01:04:41 Let's do it I am I put in my cute earrings I'm really nice I'm a good driver Yeah I said no one ever Like in history
Starting point is 01:04:54 Compliment Here's the number Okay go on You've got four more I am a good sister Oh I am I am, let's see, wearing my aura ring with pride.
Starting point is 01:05:13 Let's go a little bit more. I am a good partner to my husband and he is good to me. We have a good thing. How many is that? You have one more. Okay. I am really great. Yay.
Starting point is 01:05:31 Sweating, sweating, sweating, sweating. That was a hit gum podcast.

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