Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - Elisha Cuthbert

Episode Date: August 22, 2022

Elisha Cuthbert [24, The Girl Next Door, The Cellar, The Ranch] joins Rachel and Olivia this week for a fun conversation! Their long-overdue friendship sparks as the three reminisce about early acting jobs and old Hollywood, the pressure they felt from the film industry and bad first dates. Elisha shares about the time she saw a ghost in her apartment, her experience with the Medium, Tyler Henry and so much more. Enjoy!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Hi. Welcome to Broad Ideas. I'm Rachel. She is. That's her. I'm Olivia. And I'm Rob. So I feel like I've known this person forever.

Like, I don't know. She's just always kind of been around. Me? I feel like I know you. No, I was really, really, Looking forward to actually meeting and speaking with Alicia Cuthbert. I've been a fan of hers for a really long time. And we kind of were like working in the same sort of things at the same time in the early aughts.

What, Rob? She's giving away the whole episode. I know. You were working on the same. Oh, I get it. Rob, stay tuned. Spoiler alert. Anyways.

Let's talk to her. Yeah, please. Let's just stop this and start that. Alicia Cuthbert, everybody. Sometimes when the way inside of all these thoughts are swirling, round and round inside. To join us on this journey as we take a little ride. We'll talk about dogs and kids and things. We'll talk about chicks and tampon strings.

Talk about boys that a need Because people die Can you check that your numbers are counting up? Yes, they are. Yeah, yeah, cool. All right, Rachel, you see numbers too? I see many numbers. Oh, God.

Are they moving? I'm like, what's the movie with an appellate and Matt Damon? No. The rehearsal. Guess what I did last night before bed. What? Something really cozy before bed. I watched The Cellar.

Oh, that's not cozy. And they're like, are the numbers rolling? Can you count? I'm like, don't count. And then counting down the stairs. Yeah. Oh, my gosh. Oh, my gosh. She woke up this morning and was like, you know what I did last night? And then she told me and I was like, oh, shit, okay. It was so funny because my best friend, I ended up getting a copy of it, a link or whatever before it came out. And I hate, I don't know how you guys. I don't like watching myself. Like, I just have a really hard time watching anything I've been in. I mean, I'll force myself too just because I know I need to. and it's good and whatever, but it's like fingers on chalkboard. I always try to explain to people that, you know, when they hear themselves on recordings, and they're like, oh, my voices, is that how I sound? Well, imagine watching two hours of that. But anyway, so I always send all my stuff first to my best friend, Jenny. And, yeah, and I'm just give it to me straight.

Was I shit or was it okay? So I sent her the seller. And like you, it was at night. And she was like, okay, is this going to be scary? Like, am I not going to be able to sleep? And I'm like, it's not, no, it's more like numbers and mathematical. It's not. Anyway, she called me back and she was like, oh, you're so dead.

Like, this was so bad. This was so scary. I can't sleep. I'm so mad at you. That's fake news, what you gave her. That was fake news. Because it's actually really scary because it's not like crazy horror, you know, someone chasing.

It's like that kind of creepy horror where you're still like, could that have? happen. Right. You know? It's a little like, it's, it's not like goblins and weird. Yeah. Yeah. It's just real enough to actually be scared. I don't do well with those. It's kind of a little like stranger things. I mean, I'm not, stranger things is genius. But it has that sort of upside down sort of thing happening. Right. That's exactly it. I actually had to cleanse my brain after watching it before going to sleep. What did you put on? The ranch. Oh. Oh, God. Because I was like, Let me wash my brain with something like more calm and cozy. You just went through the full catalog.

And then I was like, hi, y'all doing. Oh, my God. Right. So you had an accent. And obviously, you're Canadian and from Canada. Yes. And my accent right now is so strong because I'm literally in Canada because I spend the summers here. You have two kids.

How old are your kids now? Yes. So my oldest is four and a half. She's going to be five in December. Her name is Zaffire. Cute. And my son is six. months and he just got teeth today.

Oh, that's so sweet. And he's a chunk and he's so cute. And his name is Fable, but he was born in January. Wow. Fable. Fable. Yeah, Zafar and Fable. I love the names.

Names are hard, right? Or were you like, I know what the name is? So names are super hard. So when I was pregnant, my daughter's name is Breyer. And we really were stuck on Millie. And then the more we thought about it, because Hayden and I, you know, we met in a movie called Jumper, and my character's name was Millie. And then we couldn't decide if that's, like, super lame or super cute.

Yeah. But then I think his mom was like, oh, but the full name would be Millicent. And I was like, no, that's too close to Maleficent. Like, I can't go there. So in that Disney theme, which it wasn't intentional, because his grandma's name is Rose, her middle name's Rose and her first name's Briar. So it's after Sleeping Beauty, not super intentionally, but that's how we landed on it. Yeah.

And Millison is a character in a book in Canada. Oh, well, that makes sense. I don't know if they mentioned that to you. It's possible. David Munch, yeah, there's, oh, no, Robert Munch. Sorry, David Munch. What am I thinking? Robert Munch is the author.

You know what, we read so much, we read so many books at night. I get them all confused. I was like Sandra Boyton, and there's like all these, like, but that's sort of become a thing for me and my daughter. You know, I was dyslexic as a kid, so reading was actually kind of traumatic for me. And then so it's so funny when you have children, you're always. always trying to like the things that you're afraid of or you know they sort of like you try not to like have that bleed in so I was like I was really adamant about like she's going to be a great

reader so yeah we do we do that quite a bit so that name was in one of the famous Canadian children's books and you have a bracelet on did your daughter make it for you yes I we're twins because I have two on that mine made for me and I'm like yes it's that it's that it will how old okay so wait so yeah I feel like we just started getting into the the beads. Four and a half. Yeah, so my daughter's seven, and we definitely started earlier, and I probably have had one of these on for two years, which is disgusting. It's like a little grimy. They get a little, no, but they get a little, like, sea glassy. Like, they kind of like fade and, like, get a little, like, frosty, or maybe they're just filthy. I don't know. Probably both.

But, yeah, so you started, you started out really early. You were a child actress. Yes. How old were you when you started? I think the first thing I ever did, I was about 11. So. Wow. That's young. Yeah, it just sort of kind of happened to fall in my lap in a lot of ways, a lot of luck, right place, right time situation. And then obviously realizing that I was really interested in it as I started to get a little older. And it was more just a hobby at first. Because in Canada, there really isn't a whole lot. Especially back in like, you know, 96 or 97, you know, there wasn't a whole lot going on as opposed to now. And really, my only competition was another girl who was brunette. So it was either the brunette. Or the blonde. Or the blonde. Yeah. So flip a coin, I guess. But so I was, I did.

I worked 50% of the time. Yeah. So we started there and then I just, as soon as I was in high school, I was like, I just remember seeing like, you know, Kristen Dunst and Reese Wetherspoon. And I'm like, I got to get to L.A. Like, this is like, I'm sort of just getting a little stunted at this point, just doing a lot of kids stuff. I was doing a lot of, like, kids shows.

I did a show called Popular Mechanics for Kids with Jay Barichel that went for like four years where a lot of kids in Canada, especially around my age, grew up sort of watching at breakfast time before school. So fun. It was kind of like Bill Nye, the science guy. Right, right. But with me and Jay, and it was kind of interesting. And then did it like, are you free of the dark? That shot in Canada. So I did that for a little while. And then finally came out to L.A., which was very exciting, but also very 18. 18. You were 18. Okay. You know what's so funny, I always say to my parents, I'm like, what were you thinking? Like, what? Now that I have kids, I'm like, what drugs were you on?

That you were like, sure, sure, sure. Yeah, yeah, sure, sure, cool, cool. I know they were on to something. And my mom does say that. She's like, you know, we wouldn't have let you go if we thought that you couldn't handle it, you know? Yeah. Could I handle it?

I always wonder, though, if it was like the kid, because I did that as a kid. I did like modeling and acting and stuff like that as a young kid. And people would be like, that's so messed up. And I'm like, I used to beg to do it. Oh, yeah. That's a dream come true to be on a show like you were on for kids. Yeah, and it clicked in actually on the first job ever, and I was a background. I was a background artist.

As was not. And I was so fascinated. And it dawned on me that what I was watching in this sort of box at home was this magical sort of world behind the camera. I had no idea that, like, because at 11 years old, you just watch the TV. You don't understand how it's all happening until you, see it. So it was like, that really, like, blew my mind. I wanted to know what every single person did. I wanted to know how the camera worked. I wanted to know the lighting. I wanted to, I wanted to know everything about it. It wasn't just a sort of superficial like, oh, I'm on TV and I'm 11.

It was like there was a real, you know, I mean, a real joy and a real curiosity and a real excitement. And now I'm just like, uh, when's lunch? No, I'm kidding. Yeah. No, so my daughter who's seven is already like, I want to be an actor or actress or whatever you say, mom. And I'm like, okay, honey. I'm like, in my mind, I'm like, oh, fuck, no. Like, until you're like 18 or whatever and can make that decision, I feel super protective. Yeah.

But, you know, but then you're a perfect example of, like, knowing really young that you just were so interested in it. And your parents were right. Yeah, it's interesting. So my husband's retired now, but he played professional hockey. He was the captain of the Leafs. Hello. Yes. Yes.

And so now with our son, there's. always this pressure for him, you know, and a lot of ways, oh, you're going to get him into hockey or whatever, but we always laugh because I'm like, I'm an actress, he's an athlete, he's going to be a wrestler. It'll be perfect. Right. So that brings up, okay, a couple things. I know a lot about the Leafs because I was in a relationship with a huge Leafs fan named Hayden Christensen, who I've learned that we have a little something in common that people may not know. Right, right, Yeah, that Hayden, yeah, Hayden and I dated when we were teenagers because of, I guess, our Canadian sort of connection and...

Loyalty. No. And I ironically shared the same agent. So that's sort of how we... That's how you ended up. That's how we ended up meeting because we didn't grow up in the same place or anything like that. But our agent sort of happened to be at the same sort of function.

But, you know, crazy because I'll be 40 in November. And yeah, yeah, this was when I was. 17. So it was a very, very long time ago. And I mean, yeah, in high school. And it is a weird, weird connection for us. Yeah. We're super close, obviously, right? Yeah.

What do they call that again, Rob? What do they call that? Something sisters. Eskimo sisters. Eskimos sisters. Oh, wow. Yeah. Interesting.

Listen, to be related to you in any way, I will take it. I don't care what it is or what it's called. But, you know, it's so funny because I've always known that. He was like my first girlfriend, you know, was Alicia. And I'm like, I have to know her. You know, like, it's so funny. I needed to know you. And I'm so happy we can finally say it and talk about it.

And it's kind of, it's actually kind of sad because, you know, thinking on it now, it seems silly that we never sort of, I mean, I guess when you break up with someone, you kind of go your different ways. But it's funny how we never ended up. I haven't even, I don't think I've seen him in, since, you know, it's just crazy. Really? Like never run into him at events or anything? No.

No. It's crazy. It's so weird. Yeah. Well, now I'm the connection. So if you have our one of our... Yes. Now you're our connection. We would probably have a lot of really, really funny laughs about that time.

Because, you know, if you think about it, you know, that's sort of like just out of high school sort of... If you could equated to it, we didn't go to college. But, I mean, I would say, like, you know, your first relationship in college or whatever. But it didn't last super long. But, yeah, it was interesting. Yeah. And it's funny that we have that connection. It's so funny.

Yeah. But he always spoke. so highly of you. Oh, that's nice. I should stop. I should stop trash talking him when I'm out. No, I'm trying to. Yeah. I'll never do that because then it's not fun, right? No one wants to do the good stuff. I think, didn't we go to her? I feel like we went to your house once. Oh my God. That's right. So she was telling me this. So I think we went to your house and this is before you dated Hayden. So you probably wouldn't have even made the connection. I just remember we were super young. We were super young in our 20s. And I believe Panthers.

And Tara Sarah brought us over because you were getting rid of puppies. Is that something you ever did? Is that triggering a memory of yours? Maybe it was like your boyfriend at the time's puppy or house. There was some sort of puppies. Oh, God. This sounds horrific. This isn't, this isn't familiar.

Who was she leaving now? Who was with her? Trace. Trace. Okay, yeah. Yeah, okay. This is possible. This was behind in the Chateau Marmont, that house?

Yes. Yes. Yes, it is. We went to your house. Were they Dotsons? Are they Weiner Talks? Why does that trigger something? Were they beagles?

Maybe they were beagles. Wait, I'm not a beagle. Beagle attacked my face when I was three, so I doubt it was a beagle. Or did you have a beagle and beagle puppies? Because then maybe. It was puppies. We went there to meet puppies. I do have like a vague memory.

But maybe that was, listen, maybe it was a party with like a side little hustle going on that I didn't know about. I mean, it was just you two. Listen, I don't remember anything. So if that's not triggering something. something. I do remember that though and like meeting you briefly and you were so lovely and sweet. I was like, get these dogs out of my house. You were like I have fucking puppies all over the house. Get these beagles out of my house. Get these beagles out of here. Yeah. Oh wow. That's so crazy. That is crazy. But it was a long time ago. Very long time

you know you. But I have that house still. I rent it to a friend of mine. No way. I love that house so much. It's like one of those things where I probably should have sold it. But I just no. No. I just love it. And I'm just like, eh, I'll keep it. Yeah. It's a good location, though, right? That location is so good. I remember feeling like I was supposed to take a puppy because you were so nice. Oh, that's so sweet.

I felt bad. I was like, like, should we take the puppy? Right. None of us had any business taking care of puppies, which you probably didn't either. No. That must have been in the early 2000s, right? Yeah, right. Oh, wow.

Yeah. Okay. That's crazy. But that's another thing that, you know, we kind of shared. Like that time. early 2000s kind of coming into the success and TV. You were on 24? Yes, I think you were doing the OC and I was doing 24 at the same time.

And I just remember being so, and similarly with the 70s show, because they were on Fox, but any show that had like young people in it, and I was like going to 24 as like the only sort of young person. So you got to have that like sort of camaraderie, whether it was like probably, like there was probably drama and all that stuff. But, like, I would have loved to have, like, you know, I was like, I literally like went to my, went to my trailer. I came out. I did my stuff. I went back to my trailer.

Like, none of the adults wanted to party with me or drink. Like, I was like so. Like, they were all just like, ew, ew, go home. Go home, little one. You know. Oh, yeah. I was like the resident, like, kid. And even just working with Coucher recently, it was like the stories of like all them like on the 70 show.

And like, every Friday was like a party. And I was like, what? Like, I didn't get any of that. I was out in frigging Woodland Hills, sweating my ass off by myself for months, months on end, doing night shoots alone. Oh, God. Oh, without social media. No social media. What am I supposed to do? What was I, I think, what was I doing? Was I doing crosswords? What was I? I know, like, what did we do before? We had that just to flip through on our phone when you're saying. Was I paging people? Yeah. Like, I don't. You probably were.

Pager codes. Do you remember, like, the upside-down numbers spelled out things? Oh, one, four, three. Oh, eight, two, three, thinking, like, all of it. Yes, pagers were, pagers were very cool. I bet you and Hayden had pagers. And we were, Rachel, we were the sidekick. You had the sidekick.

Oh, we were, that was the era of the sidekick. Oh, yeah. Yes. Well, first there was a Motorola weird, like, walkie-talkie thing. Yes. The razor and the, then there was the flip that was so cool. And I remember mine was like all bejeweled and bedazzled. Of course.

I mean, that was, Rob, did you have a bedazzled sidekick? I'm just, are you too young? He's too young. He's too young. Oh, he's not. Oh, you did? You did? You did?

You did? Yeah, I mean, it was like T-Mobile sidekick. It was like, if you didn't have one, you were nobody. Yeah, I know. It was a very big deal. And were you doing like, were you going to like Joseph's? Yes. No.

We'd say no sips to Joseph's. And like instead of la-do, la-dome. L-Du. Yeah. How did we not know each other? How did we not know each other? I know it's so weird because like same time circle things. Yes.

That's such a world that people don't know. We were supposed to know each other as moms, I think, and just, you know. And I feel like to give like someone an inside of like, I think, celebs or like even just like that time period of like young Hollywood. I don't know about you, but I just felt like it was like it was really sort of sweet and fun. And it wasn't any, like, hard drugs that I ever saw. It was more just, like, you'd go there, you'd need a booth to have, like, a bottle. And people were, like, breakdancing in the middle of the floor. Like, that's all I remember.

I remember, like, Justin Timberle, like, dancing with his dancers. Like, do you know what I mean? Yeah. I feel like if you were at a club, like, Justin was there, like, dancing. And Britney. And Britney. And it was, like, dance-offs. I just remember dance-offs.

I'm like, was I looking foot loose back then? Like, I don't understand. How fun is that? It was so fun because it was. It wasn't like, no one was like, oh, here's Molly. You know, like, it was like. No. But also no social media.

So you weren't worried that like your picture. We should have been doing it. There was no social media. Right. You kind of had a little anonymity. Annanimit. Thank you. Hello.

And anonymity. And anonymity. What is it that she used to yell at the door? Remember? It'd be like, if you're not a model and you're not famous, you're not getting in. Who's Sarah? It wasn't Sarah. It was Jen.

She would be like, yeah. So these were the club promoting. who like kind of ran stuff and would like, oh yeah. The clubs and stuff. I mean, and you had to know, I mean, yeah, Allison and then there was like Brent Bold House and all these people. Yeah, it was a different time.

I happened to be talking to another friend of mine who was sort of in that time frame era and yeah, just we were recently talking about it. So it's fresh in my mind, but I was like, oh my gosh. And you would have been, you guys would have been there too. So you can like kind of sort of powwow with a sort of limited group of people that sort of were running at that time. And it was just very sweet. And it was a lot of fun.

And I don't remember it being, you know, bad in any way. I just remember it being a great time. Yeah, we had a lot of fun. We had so much fun. We have so many memories. And I think that we really let it dictate a lot of our life, though, for a long time. You know, like it was like we paid more attention to where we should be. Right.

What night than what we should be doing with our lives. Well, we were really young. We were young. This was like 19 to 21. Yeah. there were some people that sort of didn't quite, at some point we were all sort of like, hey, this is dead. Yes. We need to start like working. And then there's people that are 40s still there. That didn't get the memo. It's over. That didn't get the memo. But that's like anything,

right? That's like high school too. It's like people who peek at high school and they don't realize that there's more there in the world. And, you know, so, but yeah, that is, that's sad. But I think the ones that got out, it was like kind of funny to think back on. Yeah, but you guys both did really well. And I know because I was attached to Rachel's hip the whole time. Like, staying grounded, not getting caught up in like, you know. Yeah, there's never been anything

out there about you. No. You know, that's negative. You know, like, you did it with such grace and like your success and everything else. I think just like you, I mean, I think when you're working, you don't have a lot of time to get into trouble. Oh, for sure. I think. I mean, there's that. And also, like I said, I feel like that time frame,

I just, I freak out for like the kids now because I feel like there's like, it's just so much crazier and wilder and social media. And I mean, there's so many things that, like, even if there was a night where it was like, ooh, out too late smoking cigarettes, no one saw. Like, it was just sort of like, like, whatever, right? Or, like, we weren't, like, the ones falling out of limos without underwear on, you know. Like, that's true. I was very domesticated.

Like, I was with Adam Brody, who was on the show with me and we were an old couple, you know? And so it wasn't, like, doing that. And you, and I feel like you've always. been in relationships. Is that kind of accurate? Yeah, I mean, I'll tell you this. I've always been in long relationships. Right. Except for maybe one that was like a year. And that one ended up being the worst one ever. So, but yeah, I always tend to, I always have this thing where I'm like, this either makes total sense for me and it ends up being like a long thing. I don't know. It seems weird. I always pick sort of these relationships that I feel. But maybe it's like modeled after

my parents too. I think we do a lot of, we fall into things that we're sort of used to seeing so maybe that's sort of why. But yeah, I tend to be in long relationships. But then once I'm out of them, I'm not in a rush. I'm not like sort of serial. There's been gaps, you know? Oh, there has. No one ever cares about the gaps.

No one ever sees, like, oh, she's, like, who you dated? She's alone, you know. I actually care about those gaps. I want to hear about those gaps. Yeah, she's like, I want to get into it. Yeah, I think it's important for people to hear because they don't put any attention on that. And it's funny. I had a funny, before I met my husband.

So I met my husband on a blind date. I was going to ask how you met him. Because I was in a gap, which to me wasn't a gap. It was just sort of just like. I thought you meant the store for a second. I was like, you were shopping at the gap. I was shopping for jeans. No, so I was just on my own.

And I was enjoying it because I'm the type of person that I'll go to a restaurant by myself. I'll go watch a movie by myself. I love it. I love being by myself. I love living. Which is so weird because I'm also very much like a married kind of person. So it's very strange. But anyway.

But yeah, so I was on my own at that point and being really happy in that state because I was like, I need this. And then my girlfriend was like, oh, I got this guy that I want to set you up with. And this is, again, before social media and all this because we've been together for over 15 years now and married for nine. Oh, my gosh. Wow. Yeah. So it's like, she calls me and she's like, I want to set you up with this guy and he's coming to town. And I was like, oh, God, no, no, no, no.

Like, I know. I am good. I'm in a good place. my life is great. And then she was like, oh, he's really sweet, though. And, like, I really feel like you guys would hit it off. And I was like, oh, that's really sweet. But I still, I'm, you know, I was like, what's he like?

She's like, well, he's like, six three. And I'm like, does he know that I'm like five two? Like, I honestly, I'm like, have you told him this? I love tall. I'm five, two as well. And like, I love a guy six are over. I don't mind it either. But I was like, is he aware?

I don't know if you get this a lot. But a lot of times, like, people will come up and be like, oh, I thought you were taller. Oh, yeah. From the TV. Oh, yeah. You look little to me, though. Like Rachel does.

We've talked about this before. There's people that have faces that fit their physique, and then there's people that look a little different. Right. Like, to me, I would think you would be this, like, tiny little thing. Right. Which is true. I think it's like, but for some people that don't, maybe, I don't know, maybe they've

seen some movie certain things of mine and they assume I'm taller. I don't know, but I do get that a lot. They're like, wow, you're so small. And I'm like, well, that's how I was born. I was like, what could I do? But I was more concerned about, you know, in a blind dude, I'm like, does he know how, like, is he expecting some, like, 510? That was your first thing, was height? Well, no, I was, no, she just, she said 6.3 and I was like, okay, but does he know that I'm like 5?2? I guess I was just trying to like shut it down. And I was sort of going,

you know, this isn't going to work. Anyway, she goes, what did you? you do yesterday? And I'm like, what are you talking about yesterday? I didn't do anything yesterday. Why? She goes, it was Valentine's Day, you nerd. And I was like, oh, oh, I was like, was it? She was like, yeah. She goes, why don't you just go have a nice meal? Aw. And I was like, all right. So anyway, I ended up marrying that guy. Yes. You've had a lot of nice meals since, right? That was a really good meal, to say the least. Yeah. Like, we want to know what you ate. That's where my first thought is. Well, I will say I had gone on a blind date with an actor prior, and it was a disaster.

It didn't go well, to say the least. So what makes it a disaster for you? Yeah, I was going to say, what makes it a disaster? Oh, like, he made me, like, share the food because, like, he didn't want to waste. And then, like, I had to, like, get on this website and, like, equal out my carbon emissions. And I ended up paying more for, like, it was just like this weird. He was like, what kind of car do you drive? Oh, you should be counteracting your carbon emissions by this much and fill this form out.

And I was like, what is happening? Was it Leonardo DiCaprio? There's Rob. I wish. I wish. No, it was not. That's so sexy. I would have been like, oh, Leo, sure.

Let me sign the dotted line. Yeah. No, I was like, this is so bad. And then at one point he was like, oh, so he drops me off. And luckily it was like, I think we went to Pache and it was like, I lived right down the road. Anyways, I was like. That was my worst state. Carry on.

Potchi was your worst date? Maybe there's some bad vibes in there. I don't know. Anyway, but I do love Pache, but I don't know. I love it. So he drops me off and he's like, should I come in? And I was like, absolutely not. This is not jamming whatsoever.

And he was like really upset. And I was like really awkward. And I was like, I'm going to go now. And like, should we do this again? I'm like, no, we shouldn't. Like, in no way, shape or form are we doing this again. Anyway, so then cut to, again, probably apprehensions of wanting to go out with Dion because did you hear my.

out there? That sounds very good. Yeah, oh, lady. Bring it. Oops. Sorry. Sorry about it. So, yeah, I was like nervous because I think I just didn't want to like waste another, like, I just, I didn't want to pay for any more carbon emissions. And I just was like, yeah, I felt really nervous about the whole thing. But then, so cut to your question about the food, we sit down and I'm like, we were at Mastros. And I'm like, all I want to do is order the seafood town. But I'm like, but that's me like with me and my girlfriend and I'm just like, we're getting the seafood tower. Right.

This is like a first date. I'm like, I'm not going to start. I'm like, but if I'm going to pay for this thing, maybe I should just order it. Like this was sort of like the dialogue that was going on in my head. Yeah. And I'm like, ah, screw it. I'll take the salad because, you know, and I'll do like the tomato salad because lettuce is really uncomfortable to eat on the first date.

Right. Like I'm just sort of like, the dressing is going to be on my face. I'm like, I'm going through all this stuff. Mm-hmm. Anyway, the waitress comes and I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm just. have the salad and he's like, do you like seafood? I was like, yes. And he's like, Tower? I'm like, yes, I will marry you. And I do. Yes. I was like, yes, reading my mind. So I was just like, okay, this guy, this guy is good, you know, and he was taking initiative. He was doing it. So I was like,

now am I going to get the bill? This is a question. Right. This is always the thing, right? And you know what? I was actually having a great time. So I was like, whatever, whatever it's going to be, it's all good. And I'm like, this is 2007. And then, but then he, he took care of it. And he was just a gentleman and a sweetheart. But we really had a lot in common. So it was, it felt very comfy, very comfortable. So it was good. But thank God, because the prior blind date was a complete shit show. I just love how relatable your whole story was about the first date, because I have the same exact inner dialogue. Like, what can I? What can I order? Like, okay, when the check comes, like, how are you handling that? Like, the whole thing. And then I always like when a guy kind of takes

charge. I'm a little old fashioned sometimes, you know? Yeah. Same. And I'm like, okay. Yes. What do you guys think about that, though? Like, because there's so much of like sensitivity around everything nowadays, like sometimes I feel a little bashful about the fact that I'm old fashion, you know, and I had a situation once with a guy, we were dating, went on a few dates. And like, the truth of the matter is, I didn't find it sexy to split the bill. I just didn't. I didn't like it. And so I ended up telling him. And I was like, I'd rather you take me, like, if it's about not being able to afford it or whatever, I'd rather you take me to a taco truck. Like, let's pack a picnic, whatever. But the whole, like, splitting the bill feels, it doesn't feel right to me. And then I've judged myself for that,

like, is that old fashion? Is that sexist? Is that this, that? But what about just straight up preference? Like, it's not about the money. Like, I would be rather at a hole in the wall. Yeah. I think, too, is like, my husband and I still do this where it's like we also like take cues of like, you know, I mean, obviously the majority of the time he's taking care of things. But it's like, for me, it's like if I kind of come up with the idea of like, hey, let's go to Pache, you know, I'm like, I'll get, you know what I mean? Like, I'm just sort of like, it was my idea of, you know, right. I feel like too, it's like he asked me on that initial date. So it's like, you're taking me out. So I'm under the assumption, not in an old fashion way, but that.

you want to take me out. So you're taking care of it. And then if I want to continue to date and I want to take you out or whatever, like I kind of like then stepping into sort of a whoever sort of initiates the thing, you know? I love that. I don't want to ever take advantage of somebody. I just, I just want to, I wanted to feel, I wanted to feel organic and real and fair in a lot of ways. Like, even now with our families, it's like, you know, I had my family in town recently and we went to a big dinner and I was like, you know, Like, this is my family. Like, this is me.

Like, I've got it. You know what I mean? Like, it's sort of... And luckily, we're able to do that. I mean, other people are in different situations. And everyone has their own sort of set up on that. It gets a little tricky. But for us, it's sort of, you know, what just feels, you know, right in your gut.

Yeah. So splitting it didn't feel right in your gut. That's right. You know? And I always do, even if I... Yeah, me too. Even if I say, like, I am old-fashioned. And, like, it's nice when that's offered.

I still always offered a pain. Like, it's like, it's like, in. me like I can't expect this you know what I mean and then the the the funny thing with that really bad that first that one that date that I had again this is like coming back to me now the bill came and it just sat there oh oh god that's so uncomfortable do you know have you had the bill just sit yeah yeah I was just like is he going to take it is it rude if I take it right how long should I wait before I take it like I was literally like so who wound up paying Oh, I took it.

I took it. And then I just got mad and I was like, okay. Right. Pass it over. And there was no argument. See, I'd rather treat, too. Like, I'd rather pick it up than split. Yes. True. Yes. No, I always, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I don't know. It's all this etiquette, you know, like dating is super awkward and uncomfortable and it's, I don't find it fun. I know. How happy are you that you don't have to do that again? I should be. You know, I do, I do.

I feel like, I mean, how do you really do a blind date nowadays? You really can't. There's no such thing as blind. You can look someone up, Google and name and like everything's there, right? Yeah. I think we were sort of maybe the last blind date that ever was. Shreder movie about that. But it's a success story.

So. So far, so good. So, yeah. So good. Yeah. But you were a hockey fan to begin with, though, right? Like you, is that, isn't accurate? Well, I mean, I think that kind of became a narrative.

Okay, okay. You're Canadians, so automatically assume, like, oh, you love hockey. I thought you had a blog on hockey. You know what? I ended up doing that because someone had, it was sort of the start of blogs, and someone had approached me about that for like a work thing, and I ended up doing a few of them. But I was sort of like, this isn't really, you know, I understand sort of like the parallel. And it was like, but no, I mean, I certainly wasn't versed enough to be writing about hockey at all.

But I will say, you know, maybe now I would be. Right. It's been like 15 years with you. Yeah, yeah. And through a lot of his career, he played over a thousand games. But I don't know how many I went to, but I'm sure it's up there in the hundreds. But when you know someone that's in it, like right now, now that he's retired, I mean, I have no idea what's happening in hockey. Like I think it was sort of my love for him.

And does he still watch? Like, is he into it or is it like, oh, yeah. No, he's very much. Okay. It's funny. It's almost like, it's weird. Like, we'd be in an airport and a guy will walk by and he'll be like, hey, how's it going? And I'm like, who's that?

He goes, oh, he plays for the Red Wings. I'm like, what? Like, he recognizes. Yeah. I mean, obviously it's what he does or in what he did for so many years. So he's really versed. It's like us sort of recognizing, you know, actors at a restaurant. Like, he does not.

I'm like, you know, Jennifer Annison's behind you. What? Where? What? You didn't notice her right away? Like, he doesn't, you know, like, so it's like funny how... I thought you're going to say he doesn't know who that is. No, he does. Actually, he was like super excited for me to talk to you because he was a huge... He is like OC... No way! Actually, it's so funny, when I met him and I first went to his house in Calgary, he had the full OC box sets.

Are you kidding me? I swear to God. I swear to God. He was like, he said to me today, because he goes, oh, who's the podcast with? I'm like, oh, and I was like, waiting for it. I'm like, actually it's, Rachel Bielsen, he's like, I'm sorry, what? I go, it was like, oh, my God. Oh, yeah, he is like straight. Oh, are you kidding? This is making my life. Oh, he was like, I go, you know, I think she even has a podcast about the OC, you know,

in some capacity. And I'm like, you should actually go on it because, hey, we'll love to have him. How many guys really, you know, can rap about the OC? He goes, I know every episode, every single hitting me. He knows everything. This is fucking hilarious. And here I am, like, Hayden has his games on for years. You know what I mean?

And I know him. And I'm like, oh, my God, he's like the captain. He's like your boyfriend at the time, you know, before you were married. And like geeking out over that. That's so fun. Tell him he has an open invite anytime he wants to come. Oh, he'll love that. His eyeballs popped out of his head.

He was so excited. So cute. I love that. That's really sweet. Yeah, we're definitely hanging out at some point. Like, you and I, yes. I'm like in love with you. Like, I just, we have to be friends.

I'm just putting in there. Yes, we will definitely. And, yeah, we will have the kids together or something. That'd be hilarious. For sure. We have to. How does your husband feel it's, you know, you happen to have one of the longest lists of being voted. Oh, God.

Oh, God. Oh, yes. I was like, that must feel good for her husband to just be like, oh, oh, my wife. What do you mean? Oh, you mean my wife? Oh, you mean my wife? Meanwhile, it's like my hair in a bun, boo belt breastfeeding. I'm like, hey, babe.

Does he tease you about that? Or does it come up? Do you tell him? If he's like, will you do the dishes? You're like, you're talking to the sexiest woman in the world. Could you chill? I probably should use that. It didn't dawn on me until you just suggested that.

Yeah. But I mean, Rachel, you were during that time period. I think I'm sure people who have listened to my, you know, maybe interviews before, I've been pretty vocal about my sort of, I don't want to say, like, disappointment about being in that whole circus, but... Yeah. There was really no option back then, though. It was like you were out promoting something. It's what you did.

That's what the studio wanted you to do. I mean, there was no... And by the way, those magazines were, you know, viewed by... Right, they were huge. 30 million people. Right. I mean, there was no arguing that it was a, you know, a way to be seen and to promote anything that you were doing. at the time.

And then the list would kind of come out on a sidebar and you'd get like a message from your publicist like, oh, you're number three. And you're like, whoa. What? It was a thing then. And I was like, what? It was a list.

Like, what was that list? Right. That was ridiculous. That would never be allowed, right? But at the time, it was a thing. And my first photo shoot ever was for Stuff magazine, okay? Oh, which was like one of the heart, like the one of the, like the, oh. They were all bad.

Those pictures are what circulate more. than any other, like, if someone comes out and I'm like horrified, okay? Yeah. Like, you know, imitating, like, touching yourself. Like, bathing suits, like, butt out, like, the whole thing. And you're just like, yeah. This is the mark I've left. Like, this is what you see when you Google me.

This is what I have to explain to my kids, this weird, freaking bizarre outfit and hair extensions. And the whole thing. And you know what's so crazy is, like, I don't even know how much of those pictures are even accurate as far as, like, Airbrush. I don't know. Oh, the photoshopping? Yeah. Yeah. Like, I do believe, like, listen, I was in my early 20s. I mean, I didn't look bad. But did I look like that? I don't, I mean, I don't even know if the fantasy is real. Do you know what I mean? So I have a thing like on Instagram, I refuse to use filters. Like, oh, that's good. I just like don't. I'm like, okay, whatever you have, a wrinkle there, a pimple here, whatever it is. Yeah. I don't ever filter the face. I just want to like send a message or whatever. It is that people are looking. Only my ass or my vagina. Like, those are fair game. But, like, yeah, I just feel like, you know, sending that message out there, I really prefer to be real. Yeah, and I think we just, we kind of ended up in a space at that time where that was really sort of happening. And yes. I mean, Hallie Berry was doing it for God's sake. It was very of the moment.

It was. Jennifer Anderson was doing it. I mean, there were a lot of people, I mean, maybe she was doing GQ. I mean, who knows? But it was like, they all of them. I mean, all of them were crazy in a way that I was like, we were probably too young. Yeah. To be being subjected to that and feeling pressured to do that. And like you said, those pictures circulate now.

Oh, my God. And even like when someone reads my bio, those things come up where they actually don't mean anything in regards to me as a person or my career. And I don't even know, like those lists are not even. It's not like it's like I won an Olympic medal. Like it's, it was some list, some random magazine decided to create, you know. Right. But it's weird because growing up, I actually was jealous that I wasn't in those magazines.

I'm sure. That's the truth. Like, I remember when Rachel doing it, I'm like, I want to do that. I want to be a maxim model. And like that was like goals. Yes. And like even looking back now, I'm like, yes, there was that pressure. to be like the hot, sexy, young engenue.

And here's my thing. I don't judge it in any way. I think that, listen, you guys both happen to have massive success and beautiful bodies and faces. And it's not normal. And that's why people want to take pictures of it. You know, it is a thing of beauty. And I kind of am like, how fun to be able to look back on those like gorgeous young pictures. My question is, why does it have?

to stop. Why is it just the young 20-something-year-olds that they're doing that too? Like, why is a sexy woman kind of confined to that age? That's what kind of bothers me. Well, I think, I think the nice thing about it is that there's options now and like, you know, Rachel's done it too where it's like, you know, the better version of that is Shape Magazine or women's health, you know? I feel like that's the better avenue to go. Listen, I'm, especially at this point in my life, it's like, I'm working hard to, you know, stay in shape and be as healthy as I possibly can, you know, because especially with kids and life and age and, you know, all that stuff is, yeah, I mean, I feel like there's better ways to filter that, you know, than sort of that time of the FHMs and the, it's like, wow. That was so, that was so crazy. I know, it was crazy. I do find, like, at 40 years old, it is like you have to be mindful more of, like, how you take care of yourself and, it's like, wow. working at, you know, and in 20 you don't. One thing I saw recently was Selena Gomez, who I think,

you know, always sets a pretty good example. She like had some, I don't know if it was TikTok or Instagram, but talking about how she's not sucking in her stomach. Did you see this? Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes, the bathing suit. Yes. And she's like, we're bringing the normal stomach back. And I was like, yes. Yes. You know, like that is the message that should be out there. And yeah, living up to these ridiculous standards of, you know, it's just not reality. It's amazing. It's amazing. for her to have the foresight to see that, you know, at that age. And she's so young, yeah. Like, if I could take what I know now about, you know, having two children and going back to, I would be so much kinder to myself.

And not that I had any sort of, you know, luckily I didn't have any eating issues or anything like that. But I definitely, like, you know, got caught up in that wanting to, like you said, wanting to live up to what everyone was expecting of us, which was to be the hottest woman in the world. It's like, what? It's intense, too. I'm like, I'm an actress. I thought, Giselle. I was like, what in the world? I'm five, too.

I know, with our little legs and height. I don't know, maybe you have long legs, but, you know. I mean, it's just, it was kind of ridiculous, you know? And then I would imagine, too, like, aging in this business and, like, obviously we're not old by any stretch of the imagination. but even watching your movie last night, The Cellar, it's like you're playing a mother of a teenager and you're playing a mature woman who's like grown in marriage

and what you've come from and what you are today are not the same things because that's life. Actually, I was really proud of myself for that movie in particular because it was the first movie I got a chance to really go, this is what I look like at this age and I really didn't have a moment. a ton of makeup for that, you know, because obviously she's going through hell and back. So there was

really no point in being sort of this glamorous, you know, mother of two. I mean, it was just didn't, it didn't make sense for the role anyway. So it was nice to go, you know, it's time to take my career into another direction of maturity and have it reflect the age that I'm at, you know, and not to try to play this role in sort of this sort of sugar-coated version of it. You know, I wanted it to feel as sort of raw and as real as possible. And it's very hard to do and to keep it in something that you still want to look at, you know? So it's like, that's where I'm sort of finding the art of it because it's sort of you want to be appealing and you want to be something nice to look at. But at the same time, you want it to be authentic and real, you know. Yeah, and it came across that way. It really did. It

reminds me of, you know, my favorite actress is Kate Winslet. And I feel like she's someone who's Mary Beastown, right? Yeah, and everything. I feel like she's someone who continues to arrive where she's at. And we as audience get to watch that. And last night, watching The Seller, I was thinking that. I was like, there's an ownership of who you are and where you are in your life. And look it.

Strip down with no makeup, you're fortunate that you're still beautiful. But it's still a choice. And it reads well in the movie. Because if they would have thrown a ton of makeup in your face, while you're scared. That's a different movie. Yeah. You know? And like, it did read really grounded. And like you'd entered a different phase of life. Yeah, that's why I wanted to do the film too. Because when I read the script, I was like, oh, great. This is a character that actually will lend itself to kind of showcase

sort of where I'm at now and, you know, play a woman of my age now, you know? Right. No, I think and there's so much, you know, for me personally, like, I haven't like been on television or on a screen in like a few years. And I'm like, oh, my God, I'm going to go back on. And everyone's going to be like, oh, she has a wrinkle there, or like, whatever it is, right? And the pressure of that in our business, of, like, people are going to be either judging or just focusing on that. And I'm like, dude, I just wish there was a little bit more of... Kindness. Yes. Yeah. And, like, acceptance and, like, naturalness, and not that there's anything wrong with the choice to do Botox or whatever it is. I just feel like I just wish,

there was more support and acceptance and, like, the choice, you know? Yeah, and I think, too, it was like, I realized at one point where I was like, I have to really smarten up and start taking ownership of the way I feel about it before anyone else makes me decide, you know? Right, right. Because, of course, I mean, you know, you post something and you've got it a lot of like, oh, Linda, Linda, Linda, or like, you know, oh, you look amazing or like whatever. And then there's like those three comments that you dwell on that are.

Right, the negative ones, right? oh, you've aged or, oh, you don't, you don't look the same like you used to. And I went, you know what? It's like, yeah, that's fair, you know, because I don't. And I'm, you know, and I don't know what they're referring to in comparison or what that might be. So I realized it was like, you know, gosh, I really have to get my, wrap my brain around feeling good about this, you know, getting older and, you know, things not looking the same and with or without it. Like even, even when you do try and do things to make yourself, you know, look better, it's, you know, I'm, you know, I'm. we're never going to stop the aging process.

So I was like, I really have to wrap my head around this. Otherwise, I'm going to. Right. It's kind of hard. Right. Yeah. It's like, it's a really hard job. Like, you have to work at it.

Right. And in L.A. too, nonetheless. I mean, you can't go anywhere without noticing all the things that people are doing. And it's just like, I don't know. I just feel a lot of pressure. Like, I'm about to work on something for the first time in a while. And I'm like, I didn't do anything. I'm a little scared.

Like, I feel that. But I'm like, you know, it's my choice and I have to feel good about it. Oh, well, that's exciting. That's super exciting, because that's going to be like super liberating. And it's amazing because you're going to be so beautiful still. You're so sweet. Thanks. And so to enjoy that sort of new phase. And I feel like the audience that follows you through that phase is the ones you want to keep anyway. That's right, right. That's who you want on your side to go follow you through your career and that they have that maturity level. And you know what? It's so funny, we always dissect things deeper

than I think a lot of people do, especially with our eyes, artists, you know, we're sort of like always like, especially on the big screen, it's like, I see like that one pore that looks like really big and no one never even notices it, you know? Yeah, hardest critics on ourselves.

And all just being said, the first comment, I'll be like, and I'm going Botox tomorrow. Yeah, like, whatever. And there's nothing wrong with it. I don't know what will happen, but it's just those thoughts that, you know, you go through.

But I think it's important to talk about that for women to hear because it's not in a bubble. It's not just in this industry. It's not just people in the public eye. It's women in general. It's even the way societies made us look at men and women. Like, I look at my husband. He's got smile lines and wrinkles and gray hair. And I find him so sexy. And like the older he gets, the sexier he gets. And, you know, if I see gray hair sprouting out of my head, I'm like, ew, that's gross. You know, I need to go get. And, you know, I need to go get them died immediately. You know what's so funny, too?

I don't know if you guys have noticed this. Maybe it's just me. When I was younger, I used to wear a lot of makeup. I probably didn't need to. Right. And then as I got older, I was like,

the more makeup I wear, the worse I look. I'm like, I literally can't wear makeup. Like, I just, I look like, I don't even know.

I look like a clown. Yeah, I'm like a clown. I'm just like, and then I'll, like, I'll get myself decked out and I'm just like, washing it off.

Oh my God. I can't wait, right, to take it off. It's so interesting. Who is this person? I was like, I look crazy. This is insane. This is supposed to be helping me. This is like making me look 10 years older than I am.

I forgot how to blend. Yeah. I don't know. I don't, yeah. I think that's being a mom too. It's like other things start to like priorities, you know. Right. For sure.

For sure. I mean, the difference between like being, young and what happens then and then like older and a mother. I mean, two different people, two different worlds, right? Yes. There was like two other things that we wanted to talk to you about. One, very important that we read that you think you saw, or you did, you saw a ghost at the foot of your bed. Is this a true story? This is more important than anything. This is more important than anything. Like, we want to talk about ghosts. Okay. And we read that and so we want to hear. Did you? Is that real? Yes. Okay. So that is.

Okay, but listen, it is real for me. Oh, that's all I know. Yeah, that's all you know. That's all you know. Can we tell the story? We'll put some, like, creepy music underneath it, and you can tell it. Please. One very dark night.

Yeah. So there I was. No. It was actually, do you guys remember the Okwood Apartments? I think they're called something else now. They're like Avil, yeah, whatever. Whatever they're called now. They were the Oakwood Apartments.

Oh, gee. So I stayed there when I first moved to California, as a lot of people do. Which a lot of people do. And right up from Warner Brothers. And I was in, you can actually see my unit from Barham Boulevard. Like, it was ridiculous. Anyway, it was the U building. And I lived there for six months while I was looking for an apartment.

While I was there, I had this like rented furnished place. I had nothing. I was 18. I had no furniture, no nothing. So I was renting this place there. Every night I would hear. these sort of tapping noises? Like they were like sort of tapping on like a pipe.

And I thought, oh, the pipes are old or whatever, right? That's noise, as Larry David would say. This is also cut to, like, the first time I'm really living on my own. So I don't know if this is like overtiredness. I keep trying to make excuses for it, but whatever. The story goes, I literally went to bed one night and I get awoken at about, again, from these tapping noises at about 2 a.m. and so I open my eyes and I look up

and before I can even sit up fully at the end of my bed there is a man in a flannel shirt from what I can tell who's sort of salt and pepper hair but yet he's sort of translucent He was hot. He was a hot ghost

He was a lumberjack He was a lumberjack He was a hipster from Culver City I'm like really like into this ghost He was a sculptor. No, he was an older man. He was, he was not, no, I wasn't, I wasn't attracted to him. But he had solemn pepper hair and he was just sitting there,

but he was facing in the way that, like, if you're looking at the end of your bed, he was looking in the other direction. He was looking sort of sitting on the edge of the bed looking out. No, no, no. And I'm like, I literally, I've, I've, for, Rose. Like I, I, I remember just being like unable to move my arms and unable to move my body. Because I was just so stunned, I think. And then I remember thinking, God, I'm not the right person for this. I'm not open to this. I'm not, no, this is, you got the wrong person. I know I'm an artsy fartsy gal, but no, this is not for me.

I'm going to close my eyes and when I open them this gentleman is going to be gone because I'm overtired and I closed my eyes in my frozen state I shut my eyes and I went please God please God and I opened them

and he was still there sorry he screamed like I'm in it he was still there and I shut them again and I went God I'm telling you right now this is not for me

I can't do this for you I don't know what this is about. And I opened them and he was gone. And I didn't sleep the whole rest of the night. I was a wreck. I was like what I was like kind of curled up. I went into the living room area and it was a small apartment. But I literally went into the, I was like, I turned the TV on and I watched TV the rest of the night.

And you know what's so weird is that the next day I was like, I'm going to call the front clubhouse and I'm going to change apartments. And I called them and they said, no problem. We don't know what we have yet, but we'll look into it. and I never heard the tapping again, never again. So I ended up kind of staying. I felt comfortable for some reason, like, okay, he's gone and he's not going to bother me again. Wow. And then I didn't end up moving apartments, so I stayed in that apartment, but never saw him again, never heard the tapping again.

God listened. Yeah. But I did have a great conversation with Tyler Henry. Have you talked to him? Oh, my God, I want him so bad. I know. I've been asking her to do it. So he's like the Hollywood media, but he also has his own show now on Netflix.

That's incredible. I had such an amazing experience with him. I really do. There's something. There's something there. This is like too good. Oh my gosh. So that's my ghost.

That's my creepy ghost story, guys. So wait, I want to hear about Tyler Henry. I've watched every episode of everything. I wanted to, like, debunk him. I wanted to like, when I saw him in person, because I was like, I had seen his stuff. And actually a producer friend of mine had gone to see him prior to his show coming on the air. There was lots of talk about him sort of circling around. Anyway, so I, when I got this.

email to say, hey, do you want to come on this thing? And I was like, yeah, I want to see for my own. Right. Right. I got to see this kid. Right. He's so lovely. And I thought, you know, because he sweats a lot. He does a little sweating. So I was like, when I hugged him, I even went to like, kind of, I kind of frisked him in the back to see if he had like a heat pad. Do you know what I mean? Like, I was like, I know these, I know Hollywood. I know all this bullshit. I was like, you can't, you can't fool me. Yeah. So I was like, I was patting him down like it was a search. nothing. He was like this tiny little, he's so sweet. Anyway, already in my head, I wanted to connect with my grandmother on my mother's side. And only I knew that in my head. Like, there's no research on the internet that you could, you know, whatever. I was like, anyway. So, and there was a lot of people

that I had that could have came through. So I sat down and I was all like, hmm, he's, this is going to be a joke. He's like, okay, so your grandmother on your mother's side is connecting. She knows that you want to speak to her. And I was like, and I'm out. Like, I'm like, this is, I. oh, I was like, I was like, like an absolute fool. But then I kind of was like, get your shit together, keep it together, because I really wanted to like continually sort of hear what he had to say

and like how far removed it was from just sort of general information. Yeah. It was unbelievable things even. I had my best friend, Jenny, like I said, writing things in the back because I was like, a lot's going to come at me. It was an hour with him. And so she had written down some notes.

And some things weren't quite jelling. I think at one point he had. said something about my grandfather, who was my dad's dad, and he was like, listen, your grandfather's coming through and he wants your father to know that he's sorry about the roof. And I'm like, what, the roof? I was like, okay, that's whatever. Cut to once the whole session's over, of course, I ran home, called my parents and I'm like giving them all like the amazing stuff that I had heard. And I was like, oh yeah, dad, by the way, and we're on FaceTime. I'm like, he mentioned something about, you know, Papa saying something like, sorry about the roof. And he was like, his face, like literally

was like he had seen a ghost. And I was like, what? What's the roof? And he was like, you don't understand like the house that we lived in, which I ended up, you know, taking care of. I had to replace the roof twice because the original roof that he had gone with was really a bad choice. And I had to redo that roof twice. Wow. And I was like, so things that are not even in connection to you. To you per se, there's people coming through as someone for you to talk to you to. shit. Oh, it was so crazy. I want to do this. And my grandmother referencing my cousin

just to say like, you know, tell her I said hello. I was like, whoa, this is so trippy. Yeah. So trippy. And you can feel it when it's true. Yeah. Oh, there was definitely something happening there. It was like just so very cool, very cool. So I watched his new stuff on Netflix and it was like incredible. That was amazing. And if you're the person that's like into that kind of stuff,

there's another thing on Netflix called Surviving Death or something. I think it's called it. It's like a six-part series about... Oh, yeah, I watched it. Right? You and I were like... Yeah. Yes. Yeah. We would have the same queue. Like, you and I have the same cue on the Netflix. Same cue on Netflix. Yeah, totally. No, I want to... It freaks me out, man, but I totally am into it. And I've, my grew up in a house with my mom's very like, no, ghosts, they come in and the spirits and, you know, they won't hurt you. They'll never hurt you. So I've grown up with like, yeah, they're just hanging out, like, hey, Jim, you know what I mean? Like, just in the room. But I haven't

seen them myself. Right. But, you know, always been raised that way. I've always said I was open, but then I think I would do exactly what you said. If one was, I'd be like, okay, no, God, I'm good. I got to go away. My husband and I had a crazy experience with a medium. We went to this, like, medium thing. We had only been dating three months. We weren't sitting together. And the medium, like, goes around the room and just picks people. And he goes, to me, he's like, there's a, um, a soul waiting to come through that your father is loading and you're going to have a baby. And my father has passed away. And I was like, okay. And then he goes to Jeff, my husband, who we're dating three months at the time, he goes, are you ready? And Jeff looks at him and he's like,

no. And he's like, well, you better get ready because the soul has already chose you to his parents. Oh, what? I have two kids with that man now. I got a chill from that. That's so crazy. Something similar happened to me, too. And now that you reminded me, like, we were trying to have a baby, and this woman who's kind of a clairvoyant was, like, doing some work on my head. And she was our hairdresser, like, in the movies. Like, she worked with us.

And she was, like, doing some work. And she was like, oh, I see her. There's a little girl, and she's ready to come down. What? Yeah. She's like, but you have to learn how to stick up for yourself, you know, in general. that you can speak up for yourself in life so you'll be able to speak up for her.

Like the lesson I needed to learn in order for her to come in. And so I just started like fighting with everybody I ran into and was like, listen. I have a voice that I'm going to be loud with it. I have a voice, okay? Yes, listen up, world. As soon as that happened, I got pregnant with Breyer.

Oh, so good. Gosh. Yeah. So crazy. I believe in all that shit, though. Like, I'm totally into it. I'm totally open to it. And you know what?

I think once like I realized, like when I get back to L.A., I'm really getting pulled towards sound bath situations. I love a sound bath. I have never done one before, and I'm like, this is something I need. I feel like it's coming up a lot. Like, I'm seeing it often. And like it's sort of, I think it's calling me right now. So I feel like that's going to be the next thing.

I'll be like back in L.A. doing sound baths. We'll do one with you. We're coming. I'm just inviting myself into your life, by the way. Like, tell me where to go. I need to know. I need to know. We've got all the places.

We've got all the things. This is what I need. I'm so down. I'm like so interested to see how I feel after because I have a really great masseuse, this friend of mine actually, and she was like, she goes, I go. And an hour later I walk out of there. I'm like humming and vibrating in such a good, beautiful way. And I feel like as like your mom, it's like I'm doing everything for everyone.

Yeah. Which is great. Like all hands on deck. But for me, especially while breastfeeding too, it's sort of like I'm giving out so much. So much. Right. I'm putting out so much. It's like I need to like regain that sort of energy back because I do feel like I'm putting out more than I'm getting in. So I was like, oh, I think I need a sound bath, guys. I love that. It's got to be even. And we have to remember to take care of ourselves too. It's hard. I know. But it's true. So you have a, your project, your latest project is Bandit, right? Yes, with Josh Demel. Oh, nice. Yeah. So Josh and I went off and did this film in Georgia. I finally did a movie in Georgia. I know. know everyone's worked there. I had never worked there before. I actually found it I was pregnant while filming this film. Oh, no way. I thought I had the COVID. I just had the baby, really. That's all I had. Oh, my God. Yeah, so I'm totally really pregnant in the film, but I also play

a pregnant woman, but on the later part of the pregnancies in the span of this character's life. But it's based on a true story, a Canadian true story. So I was really super excited about it because I had never done anything that was sort of Canadian-based. So anyway, it's about this American guy who fled prison and came up to Canada and assumed a new identity and became one of the most notorious Canadian bank robbers of all time. Amazing. And he met a woman while he was there, my character, and she doesn't realize that he's someone completely, like a different person, and that he's doing all of this. And Mel Gibson sort of plays this, like, really a seedy bad guy that's sort of helping him rob banks. But yeah, I play the woman that he meets along the way

and who he ends up having a family with. Unfortunately, I never really got to speak to the real woman. She sort of doesn't want anything to do with him. Yeah. Which I understand. So all my basis on this character and the way I approached it was because I wasn't going to get it straight from her, I had to commit to his recollection of her.

So, you know, even though sometimes things sort of came at me, that didn't feel true to what a woman would probably experience. I just kept going, well, I can't fact-check this with her, so I have to commit to his side of the story. So anyway, I ran with it in that way. And it's just an interesting story, and it's a fun sort of catch-me-if-you-can vibe. Love it.

Those are always fun to watch, you know. So I'm excited for people to see it. So that's coming out in September, so I'm really excited. It's coming out soon. Yay. And obviously Josh Chamele plays with my husband, the bank robber in the film.

It's so funny when we actually got to meet the real guy, his name's Gilbert. It's funny. When I first read the script, before I had done any sort of research on it, I had this sort of like serious guy that was like doing these bank robbers in my head and then kind of doing some research. I realized, oh, this guy's very charismatic. Obviously, you have to be to assume sort of these different identities and fool all these people in your life. And Josh came into it and had that sort of spark about him and that it's funny, you shouldn't be laughing or like sort of, you know, wanting to cheer this guy on. But for some reason, Josh, comes in and takes the character into that way of like, wow, this is, this guy's kind of funny

and charismatic and interesting. But I felt so bad because we had so many scenes and I was so early on in my pregnancy with Fable that I wasn't really telling anyone at that point. And I was so sick, you know, I had such bad morning sickness. And I was at one point, I think Josh was like, is it me? I just was like, no, it's very hot in Georgia. It's like, I'm just like the heat is getting. to me and I felt so bad. And it wasn't until like I hit the three month mark and later on when

we saw each other after the fact, way after the film. I also didn't want anyone sort of worrying about me either. I was sort of, I knew my limits and wasn't going to put myself in any sort of bad situations. But, you know, afterwards, he was like, oh my God, it makes so much sense. You were like, you were so sick. And at one point we had, you know, those dreaded like scenes at the table where we're eating. Oh, no. They brought the food and it was like chef boy or D or like some weird spaghettios. And I was like, oh, my God. I was so close. I was so close.

And I was like, am I really about to throw up on set right now? Am I really going to do that? And I was like, please. But no, I got through it, but it was crazy. And probably the whole time I'm like, I can't wait until I can actually tell Josh that, like, I wasn't repulsed by him. Unless he was wearing cologne. No, I know. Oh, the smell.

Lord. Well, you know what rhymes with Cologne alone. Oh. Good. I love that. I love that. I love that. Well, we're super, yeah, we're super excited for the movie and I just think you're so amazing and I've been a fan of yours since the early odds. So it's so cool to actually connect with you. Yes. Likewise. Likewise. You guys are lovely. At the end of our interviews, we always play our game of Mary Barry One Night Stand. We got three for you. I hope they're good. I hope you gave me some good ones here. Usher. Uh-huh. Yeah. Okay. Wayne Gretzky and Tom Brady

Look at her face She doesn't like your picks I didn't do I didn't pick these I'm just gonna say Okay Mary Barry One Night Stand Was it you or Rob?

I picked Usher And Tom Brady Rob picked a hockey player And that's the only one I know He is the great one He is the great I mean You're gonna go with the hockey player

Might as well go Well aside from your husband So. Okay. Well, I think I would, I would marry Gretzky because he'd be a lot of fun. I feel like Tom Brady would be too intense. Sure. So I think I'm going to give him the one-night stand.

You're going to give it to him. Oh, yeah, you are. I'll give him the one-night stand. I'll give, I'll let him, I'll let Brady have the one-night stand. There. But I'm going to marry, I'm going to marry Wayne Gretzky. and also he's Kinay. We have the same kind of value.

Yeah, for me. I get it. Yep. But we're going to bury Usher. Unfortunately, he's the only one left. I don't know what to say. He's the only one. He's the only one.

But we're going to bury it. You know what? We're going to bury you. But we're going to enjoy that song while we do it. Yeah, exactly. We're a good one. We still love you, Usher. We still love you, always.

I respect your choices. I respect that you were willing to play the game. Always. Yes, and also just spending the time today to talk to us. Thank you so much. Spen an absolute pleasure. Thank you guys. Same. Big time. Mm-hmm. Okay, so let me ask you something. Olivia, well, Rob, sure. You're in a relationship. This is a good question. I'm going to close my ears.

No, you're in a relationship, right? And like, you know, you guys spend a lot of time together. You wind up, like, leaving certain things at the other person's house. And then you break up. Do you then, let's say it's a breakup where you don't communicate anymore, like a very clear cut, like we're not talking. Do you reach out to get the item back? Depends on what the item is. I think, yeah, you can eventually reach out once you're both adults about it. I remember once I had to do that because someone I was dating at the time would wear a sweater of mine. What?

Yeah, because it was my dad's sweater. You know what sweater it is? It's like this really cozy sweater anyway. Every guy I ever dated would wear it. Yeah, so someone wore the sweater? Someone wore the sweater. We broke up. The sweater was super important to me.

So I had to make sure to get it back, even though I didn't want to go through the hassle of getting it back. Yeah. I needed to. I still have it. Yeah, well, that makes sense. Yeah. So I think it depends on the item.

I had to ask an ex-girlfriend for my grandma's. recipe. What? Oh. Do explain that. Do tell. I made her a recipe book for her birthday or something one year. That's so cute. And you didn't have another copy other than that. No, and then my grandma died. Well, I mean, I... Yeah, you needed it back. Nesale at the house. What was it? Caramel icing thing. It's like a fudge, but it's caramel fudged thing. Put it in a pie. Oh, what's the pie? No, it's just in like a pie thing. I don't know how to explain it. It's in like a pie dish.

It's in like a pie dish. Pie tin. He clearly didn't know what it was. Nope. He had to ask for it back. Well, and the recipe was just like, I can probably find it actually in my email. It's not a great recipe. But you needed it.

Yes. Because you were going to make it? I wanted to make it. I wanted to learn to make it because it was one of your favorites. It was a real difficult one to make, too. I thought making someone. No, I couldn't figure it out. I've asked chefs to try to figure it out too, and they have not been able to.

Really? Like, one of the steps is just, like, and beat the hell out of it. I like your grandma. Jeff's mom gave me all of her recipes. I have them all. She wrote each and every single one of them out for me on little index cards. You should. So I made her for Christmas.

I made her a book. like a real book. I was going to say you should make a book. Yeah, I called it Maddie's sweets and each page I put one of the pictures of her and the grandkids or the grandkids or the families. That's what I thought. And I called her and I was like, did you get your Christmas present? And she went, it's interesting. I was like, that's actually the most thoughtful thing I've probably ever done for someone. Yeah, I was thinking like, I can't think of another gift that is that thoughtful that you've given. I know. And she's the sweetest human on earth. Yeah. But she's just, they don't sugarcoat things in that family. She was just like,

it's interesting. And Jeff and I died. We're like, that is amazing. I was missed on Maddie. That's so good, though. You can print recipes on like, like a platter. You can put a recipe on like a grandma's right. It's a good gift to give. Kristen's mom for Christmas. Do you know about Kristen's mom? Yes, a little bit. I think you've told us this, but. Go ahead. She made me like a scrapbook. Yeah, you did tell us this.

Photos that she printed off of the armchair Instagram. Like every single post she went and got printed like a high quality. That's really sweet. And made us scrapbooks. Oh my God. That's so sweet. That's really cute. For me, like asking things back.

Yeah. So I had to learn a really hard lesson, right? After I was robbed five times and have been robbed. multiple times. It was to lock the door and get an alarm. It got robbed. Actually, like, yeah,

like, you know, I think I've talked about, the bling ring or whatever. Went into my house many times. You're pooped in your toilet. Yeah, they fucking pooped in my toilet. So I had to learn, you know, and my mom really taught me this,

you have to let go material possessions, right? So I learned that many times. Because like every designer thing, every sentimental thing, like everything has been taken. Not only that time with the bling ring, but like another time at like a rental house, whatever. So I have nothing, so don't rob me.

Nothing left. So I had to learn that way. So there was something like in one of like my breakups that I loved. And it was a coat that I loved. And I can't get it again. Also a Lake Crusade Dutch oven, which hurts because those are very important. You could probably get that again. Listen, I have, I still haven't.

I have one. But I'm just saying. I know. My point is that coat I will never have back. And I mean, I had to make the choice. Like, it's more important for me to not reach out than to have that coat back. But I wonder now. But here's the thing is when you reach out, does that open a door?

Like, if you broke up with someone and they reached out to you and they're like, oh, I really need, you know, you have my uncle socks. Like, you'd feel like it was a door trying to be open. But like, I would feel like it is. Yeah. I would feel like it is. You think he would see that as you trying to get back together with him? Why don't you tell us what you think? Do you think he would?

I don't think so. How much time do you think needs to go by where it's, like, okay to reach out and ask for something? Like about 15 months? Well, I was going to say, what about, like, 10 years? Ten years. No, I mean. I think if it's not like a week later, any time beyond that.

Really? Mm-hmm. I disagree, but okay. What would you do if you saw someone else like that they were dating photographed in your coat? What would you do? What do you think he even has it still? I have no idea. But I do wonder what happened to it.

It's like that Beyonce song where she's like, the chinchilla. I'm sorry? What did she say? Are you within a seizure right? Yeah. What did she say? She's like, if I let you go, can I let you go. No idea what you're saying.

Come on. The Beyonce song where she's like basically like, I can't let you go because bitch is going to be rocking all my shit. Oh. Yeah, so I do wonder though like what happens to the life of this coat, right? Like what journey has it gone on? That's what I'm saying. Is it in the trash? Is it?

Can we call this person on the show? Online and ask about the coat? Maybe. I mean, 10 years is fine, right? Well, we'll have a livia call. You don't have to be part of it. You can be listening. What is the fear of reaching out about the coat?

I don't want to reach out. Why? I don't want to make contact with this person. But you want the coat, right? It's been a very long time. I had to come, like, I had to get to a place of peace with the coat. But a picture pops up and I'm not going to lie. I fucking miss that coat.

Why can't your assistant reach out? I don't have an assistant. I am Olivia. Rachel's assistant. I'm looking for a coat. Or your producer. I'm happy to reach out. I'm sure you are.

Rob is just obsessed with anyone I've dated. If they're famous. Oh, so it's a famous person with the coat. So someone could be photographed in it. To be fair, I liked most of these people before I knew you. All the people I've dated? He's like, to be fair, I'm only here because of who you've dated.

I don't like them because they dated you. Oh, we know, Rob. He likes you because you dated them. Right. I get it.

That's why he just wants me to talk about any relationship I've ever been in because he would much prefer to hear about them. I understand. As would I, Rob. Okay, so basically,

yeah, it's okay to reach out for a coat and you don't think it looks like trying to reach for an opening. Definitely not if a lot of time has gone by. What would you do if you had something for years and years? I'd probably get rid of it.

Right, but how? Would you, like, donate it to Goodwill? Would you give it to a friend? Would you give it to a girlfriend? What's the... I'd donate it. I wouldn't give it to a girlfriend. You'd donate it to, like, Goodwill or something.

But what if it was worth money? Would you sell it? No. Really? Probably gift it to a friend, right? Like, if it was a boyfriend? Maybe I'll be like, does someone want this? Yeah.

Okay. I'm going to assume that's what's happened. May it rest in peace. it is on another journey on another person. I don't know. I feel like... And you know what's even more, like, he loved that coat.

Oh, yeah. He loved you in that coat? Yeah, like he loved, like... He like... He like... He, like, jacked off in the coat. He loved wearing the coat. He would only make love to you if you were in the coat.

I had to have the coat on. I feel like I used to leave things places all the time. No. Oh. I'd always be so paranoid about that. I would just like, you know, you take your bracelets off when you go to sleep or your earrings or your neckliss. And it looks like it. So I'd always be scared to like ask for my things back.

So would you just leave them there and leave it be? That's a fleabag thing. Is it? Is it? That she would leave things? No. She always knew her boyfriend was going to come back because he always left something. You've watched Fleabag right?

I started, but it was a long time ago. I fucking love her. She's brilliant. I remember I used to get really happy when a guy would leave a two. toothbrush at my house. Because it meant like, oh, it meant like, oh, like you're coming back and I remember at one point, I had, listen, I had three tooth brushes. And they were all like meaningful people to me at the time. And I remember being like, fucking yes. I loved that feeling of their toothbrush in my bathroom. Let me ask you this. Yeah. How do you feel about them asking if they can share and use

your toothbrush? If they sleep over or something. That's gross. I think it's gross. I think it's fucking disgusting. Or like in a relationship. Or if you're in a serious relationship. And someone, like, shares your toothbread. I think it's absolutely disgusting.

I feel the same way if someone wants a bite of your cereal. Yeah, cereal you don't share. And toothbrushes, never. Absolutely not. You don't share cereal. Hell no. I share it with my kids. Yeah, well, that's different.

I only eat dry cereal. You don't eat milk in your cereal? It's too soggy. I don't eat cereal often or almost ever. Okay, now we're really getting somewhere. So sharing a spoon I'm fine with. You only eat dry cereal. I don't eat cereal.

But if I'm going to eat cereal. If you are, which cereal are you eating? Checks. Like plain rice checks? Yeah. Do you like checks mix? Yeah. What, do you like bold and zesty?

I don't have it. I don't even have a go-to. Okay, fine. All right. I love cereal. I love cereal. What's your favorite cereal? Oh.

You know, I like life cereal. Life's great. I like honeynut Cheerios, Checks Mix. Sure. Do you mean checks? Yeah. Checks. I like rice Krispies.

I don't like the super sugary cereals. No. I love Krispix. I love Krispix. Probably my number one. I like I mean I like All these cereals are fine

I like Raisin brand I can't eat it anymore But I like it The first job I ever had Was for a Raisin Brand Crunch commercial I remember And it didn't show my face It only showed my ass dancing

And I danced for like You were so sore I was so sore I remember that 18 19 Something like that That was my first job Do you remember when I crashed

A commercial audition with you And I got caught and got kicked out. What? It was so brutal. You were auditioning for like Pizza Hut or something. Did you ever do a Pizza Hut commercial? I did.

Okay. Yeah. So I crashed it with you because we used to do that because we'd have auditions. And I remember you being like just crash it. Just like sign your name and go in. And I was like, okay. And I did. And in the room during the audition, they kicked me out.

Yeah. Oh. Did you get it? She got it. Did you get it? No, I got nothing. What the hell? You got it, though.

Rachel, I think it was one you might have got. I did do a pizza hat because I remember they would spray something on the pizza to make it look like shiny and like hot and greasy and it was disgusting. It was like a hair product or something. It was something weird. People always got away with crashing commercials auditions. They did. Except for me. They're like.

I did not call you in, lady. Did I crash any? I don't remember. I'm too scared. I am such a rule abider to a fault. I don't think I could never see me doing that. I would be way too scared. But you told me to do it?

Well, it's not me doing it. I am a huge rule abider. Yeah, I didn't feel right doing it. I was really scared. And they were like, we don't have you on our list. And I was like, oh, this hurts and feels weird. Like, I won't jaywalk. I don't jaywalk either.

That's more of like a regional thing though What do you mean? People in New York do it all the time People in Chicago do it Sure, okay You do it out here and cars do not know what to do Rachel's like I don't hit and run I don't do it

Much So I think it depends on where you're from Because I remember the first time I went to Seattle I went to Jaywalk And a car like did not know what to do And slammed on their brakes Oh, that's scary Interesting

Did you ever steal? You probably walk into the street when a car's coming, Rob. No, it wasn't in front of it. It was like they were, I don't know what was happening. Whatever. Did you ever steal? Oh, the one time

I ever stole, I was in Vancouver in eighth grade and I took a little ring from like a Clare's or something. I felt so guilty. I just did it to see, you know, like you're young and you're like, I'm in a shoplift, I got to try this. And I returned it.

You did. Yeah. Oh my God. I just... Wow. You used to jack things. Well... Way to put it.

Way to put it. I mean, I went shoplifting once with my sister and her friends because they were older. Mm-hmm. And then we stored everything in this kind of bin in my room and my mom found it. And she made us go back to every single store. Right. and, you know, give it back and do all that. I think I took a DVD from the library once.

Like, didn't return it? No, I took it. And I think I ended up returning it, too. But out of guilt or someone's got caught. He was like, no, I checked it out. I didn't check it out. I just put it in my backpack. What was the DVD?

I think it was the movie Out Cold. What? Interesting. Yeah. It might have been rated R. Maybe that was why I took it. Oh, okay. Yeah. I feel like that's something that teenagers do to just kind of push the envelope. Do you think that's a common thing? Yeah. Just to like try it out or whatever. Yeah, for sure. That's what, I mean, that's what I did. And I was more like you. Like a rule abider scared. Are you still that way? Yes.

Yeah. Jeff got in trouble once. This is so sad. Like, this like kills me. He was a, at a friend's house and he took their dollhouse. I'm going to say he took their dog. No, me too. I thought you were going to say he took their dog. He stole a doll

house and put it in the back of his parents' car and like he got caught. I don't know. But it's something that still comes up in our relationship. Oh, when he's little. Yeah.

Yeah. How old was he? How old was he? Or 40. How old was he when this happened? He was like five. You know, it'd be like having Calvin over and he snuck one of Breyer's dollhouses into the car.

A big dollhouse, though. Yeah, it was a big dollhouse. How did a five-year-old sneak a dollhouse into a car without anyone noticing? I don't know. We must have him on the show to discuss. But he felt really bad about it. So did he return it?

He had to return the dollhouse. And then I think he got caught stealing candy from the store, too, and he had to return it. I remember. He had to return the candy that he ate. He had to return the candy. His mom made him. Yeah.

Yeah, I was like, I remember I would stand in the grocery store with my hands behind my back and like steel bubblelicious. Mm-hmm. And then we'd all go home. Watermelon. Mm-hmm. You? I never stole it. I was trying to trick you.

Yep. So you never stole after that. That was the one and only thing. One and only. Wow. Yep. It was a mood ring. I loved mood.

Love. Yeah. Were you alone or were you with friends? I was with my best friend at the time, Valerie. She was my best friend in eighth grade. Okay. Yeah. Where's Valerie now?

Not sitting here next to you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Those were the days. Her older sister showed me secret of my success. Michael J. Fox movie. Yeah, I know the movie.

Yeah. I thought you should. Secret of my. showed you a secret that got you... Success? Success. Yeah, that's right. What?

I'm just thinking about the coat. So I'm just wondering, like... Long gone, that coat. But do we have to... Do we have to accept that? No, I think you can text. I think you can text. You do?

Yeah. You just want me to text her exes. No, no, no. As a guy, I think that's totally fine. And maybe that's true. Maybe guys think of things a lot more literal. And they're like, oh, yeah, she'll have. to coach. She wants a coat. That ghost story though, like I really was very enthralled and like in it and

I was very scared. I honestly feel like we could have talked to her for hours about that kind of stuff. Like she could get down. One thousand percent. Like she could give us multiple chills. I had to peeve so bad in that moment. Otherwise, I would have kept going. But I was like literally going to pee my pants. I love all that stuff. I love it. It freaks me the fuck out. Like nothing scares me more. The fact of her, like, waking up and there's, like, an old man in a flannel. A plet shirt, a lumberjack. Like, sitting there?

What would scare you more of that? Or, like, a little girl ghost. Little girl, ghost's clearly the scariest. Why little girl, not little boy? I don't know, because that's what Joey says on friends. Oh. Did you ever go to, like, haunted places? Yes.

When you were younger? It's my favorite. Yeah. So there's, like, a vacation town that my family goes to, and it has, like, one of the most haunted, you know, they have ghost tours and all this stuff. And even my aunt's house there is on the grounds where a hotel burnt down in like the 1800s. Yes.

And there's a little girl that haunts her house. Not only her house, but the bedroom that I stay in when I'm there. I have yet to see her. I'm coming next time. Yeah. My first apartment in Chicago was an old hospital that was converted. converted into. I mean, there's a Starbucks now that was below our apartment.

That doesn't make a difference. I know, but is, and, like, all the bedrooms in the apartment were sick rooms. Nope. From people, like, there'd be just, like, a door from the closet that went out to the hallway. Doors everywhere, and, like, the bathroom still had the little slot for razor blades to, like, drop them into the walls. Nope. Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. It's a creepy apartment.

I'm the kind of person that would go on those ghost tours. I want to, I want you, Rob, to send Olivia and I. Please. On a paranormal. Experience. I don't get to come with? Yeah, you're there. I just mean, like, make this happen.

I'm not kidding. Please. Let's do it. I mean, for Halloween, we'll do. It doesn't even need to be Halloween. Oh my God, I'm scared just thinking of it now. Yeah. To release around Hollywood.

I'm scared thinking about. Can we hire to like an exorcist to come here? Don't go there, okay? I just went to one the other day. Yeah, let's have a medium. A medium. Let's have multiple. Not an exorcist.

Performing exorcisms. Have you seen that Nathan for you where he hires the exorcist? For the realtor. Do you know anything for you? No. Oh, God, he's funny. Have you been watching the rehearsal? No, it's new, right?

It's his new thing. Is it funny? It's like the same thing, but on HBO. Oh, man. He's, we'll maybe we'll watch an episode tonight. It's funny. Can we get a medium? Can he come on our show?

If we can get him. Natalie's seen him walking around our neighborhood. Really? What about Tyler Henry? Sure. Do you have his number? I don't. He knows we're talking about him right now.

Yeah, we'll just keep talking about him and eventually. No, seriously, we're going to go. Rob, you can make that happen. Wait, no, are we going to go on a, we're going to do a tour? Oh my God, Rob, we're doing it, right? I want to do a tour. I'm fucking scared. Do you know, Pats?

Pasadena is like one of the biggest areas where they do ghostbusting. What? Yeah, I told you. Remember I was looking into a ghostbusting school? Broadbusters. That's fucking dope. Broadbusters. Just saying.

See? Should have been in advertising. But that's not our listeners. Fine. But it just came to me. Broadbusters. I love that. I'm really looking forward to it, but also really fucking terrified.

And I'm going to kick myself for saying. I think we should have some really uncomfortable people on the show. I bet Alicia would come with us if she's in town. She would. She's down. I can feel it. I want her to. We should get as many of our guests as possible.

Just to come on the ghost tour? Like, I, uh, if she's in town, I'm sure be down. She would be down. Yeah. Yeah. Let's do it. We're doing it. This is like dreams come true for me, literally.

Yeah. I would like to go, you know how, um, what's his face? Matt Damon? Is he a Ghostbuster? Was it you I was just telling that story too? Yeah. About Matt Dane? No.

No, it was Zach. Oh, about Matt Damon hitting on me when I was on a date at El Compadry? No, it was Matt Dillon. Oh, shit. You did it again. It's the D. The M and the D. It's the initials.

Yeah. It's that D. It's that. Oh, my God. God, Matt Dillon, babe. Yeah, no, Matt Damon never hit on me. Sorry. But were you going to say you want Matt Dillon to come on the ghost tour?

I can maybe make that happen. No, I literally am. I think I might be peeing myself a little bit. No. Did you say Matt Damon? Yeah. Why did you say that? I just wanted to pick a random person.

I thought he was like really into ghost. And I thought it was serendipitous. I was like, oh, boy, he hit on me. He didn't. He never did. Oh, my God. When I was young, I liked a guy that played hockey. And when we were in seventh grade, they said he was going to go.

I can't tell the story. You know who else likes a guy that played hockey? Who? Alicia. Alicia. That's right. And he also knew the OC. And you know what, Rob?

Can we have him on this podcast? Marissa probably wasn't his number one. Maybe she was actually. It was Anna. It was Anna. No, it was Kirsten. Oh. Okay.

On that note. Oh, see you later. Wrong podcast, Rachel. That was a hate gum podcast.