Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - Emily Hampshire on Schitt’s Creek, Murder Houses, and Hypnotherapists

Episode Date: April 10, 2023

Emily Hampshire [Schitt’s Creek, 12 Monkeys, Snow Cake] talks with Olivia and Rachel about Canadian treats, Are You Afraid of the Dark, and freezing her eggs. They also discuss murder houses, hypnotherapists, and the taboo of female orgasm. Broad Ideas is supported by Magic Spoon. Go to magicspoon.com/IDEAS and use the code IDEAS for $5 off. Broad Ideas is supported by Hiya Health. Receive 50% off your first order by going to hiyahealth.com/IDEAS. Broad Ideas is supported by Lume. New customers get $5 off Lume’s Starter Pack with code IDEAS at LumeDeodorant.com. Broad Ideas is supported by Sundays for Dogs. Go to SundaysForDogs.com/IDEAS or use code IDEAS at checkout for 35% off your first order.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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She's staying off mic for the central I am super excited At Emily Hampshire Shitz Creek Love I love that show so much She was so awesome on it I had a really good binge session with Schitts Creek during the pandemic.

I think a lot of people discovered the show then. I watched a good amount of it. That was my like before bed show. Yeah, it's cozy. It's a cozy show. I love a cozy show. It's so funny. And she plays Stevie.

She plays Stevie. I also love that name for a girl. I think it's rad. And she's a new comic book out. April 11th, Amelia Airwood, Basic Witch. That's pretty exciting. I think that's so awesome. But yeah, let's talk to Emily. Sometimes when the woken side of Rachel's little brain, all these thoughts are swirling, round and round inside to join us on this journey as we take a little ride. We'll talk about dogs and kids and things. We'll talk about children.

Dixon, tampon strings, we'll talk about boys. Because people die. Are we rolling? Yeah, someone's awake. You guys, I just, I'm just a briefing. I had to do this rewatch podcast for a show I was on, and it was the last one today, like the finale. So they, like, were toasting with champagne and, like, all these things.

So that's why I'm a little out of it. I did not, like, I mean, I drank a bottle, but other, I bet I'm fine. But you mean, like, for a show you were on, like, the O.C. Yeah, I know. the way she said that. Well, I don't know. You know, it's one of those things. Like, you either just say it, which I normally, I guess do.

Yeah. Yeah. I'm just a little, I'm going to get centered. I'm going to be fine. Did you drink the champagne? I mean, I had a couple of sips. I didn't really drink it. I was starving, but they did give nothing bun cakes.

Have you had those? No. What is that? They're like mini cakes and that was like to celebrate and that was my lunch on the way over, so I'm hopped up on sugar. You got it. You get your own cake? Yeah, they're like your own personal little bun cake.

They're really good. They come in multiple sizes and flavors. We're not sponsored by them. Okay. And we're done here. And we're done. And that is our PSA. But we're so happy you're here. Obviously, Schitt's Creek was so fucking massive and loved it. I discovered it during the pandemic, during lockdown. I think most people discovered it when we were finished and when they were forced to watch it in lockdown. We had been six years doing the show, and nobody was watching until we literally had no jobs. So, yeah. That's crazy. I have a funny story for you.

So I spend a lot of time in Uxbridge, Ontario. Weird. Yes. What do you do in Uxbridge? One of my favorite places is Aninas. Oh, my God. Okay. Okay.

Yes, Anina's Bakery. We would frequent Anina's, and they would be like, oh, they're filming the show, Shits Creek. And I'm like, what's Shits Creek? And this was in the beginning. Oh, wow. And there would be times where we'd just. drive by the store across from Meninas, and it would be, which I didn't know at the time, dressed for the show.

And we would be like, oh, my God, that store looks so cute. Like, I want to go in, but it was always closed. And we couldn't figure out why the store was never open. And turns out it was because it was for Shits Creek. It's so funny, the first season we were there, we were shooting outside, and this truck went by and yelled, eat a dick, Eugene. And by the last seat, because I don't think they liked us shooting there, but by the last season, the townspeople were like around the monitor,

telling us what a good take was or like you should do it again. So that town really came around to being part of the show. I would have loved if you would have been like the same pickup truck drove by the last season and was like, oh, love your dick, Eugene! That would have been amazing. Oh my God, so cool, but such a small world, first of all, like, just that that was there. And then Nina's catered your show. Yes.

We're just giving a shout out. It's like the cutest restaurant catering. Bakery. And they have these butter tarts that people in America don't know what butter tarts are. It's a Canadian thing. What is it? You're the Canadian. I mean, it's a tart with, I'm assuming a lot of butter, but it doesn't, it tastes like a, oh, what? of them. A sugar. Like a shortbreadty, sugary. Short-ready, sugary. Yeah, and they can make them in all

different flavor. Like, well, no, that would be a blueberry tart, not a butter tart. But like, anyways, they're really good. And Eugene loved them. And then he also loved the egg salad sandwiches, so made them our caterers for every time we shot in the exterior. In Goodwood. Yeah. Goodwood. Yes. Goodwood is the actual town. It's so cute. It's really cute. They make my favorite cookie, The Empire cookie. Oh, the Empire cookie. Oh, my God. You really do know it. No, no, I know it, like, really well. You guys are making me hungry. Yeah. I know. I'm also starving. Anything with, like, butter and shortbread, I'm in. And we started with a bun cake and, right? Bunt cake. And speaking of butter and shortbread, okay, I haven't eaten

lunch. Can I mean it? I was at Universal Studios this week. And I guess butter beer, which is Harry Potter. Oh, yeah. Okay. I thought it was beer. Like, I thought it was real beer. And apparently it is, what I heard, the woman describe it as, Butterscotch and shortbread. She never said shortbread. I believe it is butterscotch. Are you a Harry Potter fan? Do you know this?

No, I feel like I'm the only person who hasn't seen Harry Potter, but I don't like... Oh, really? No. Okay, because I don't like... I know this is probably not part of Harry Potter, but I don't like Middle Earth. And I know that's not necessary, but I associate it like... Game of Thrones, Middle Earth, anything... Witches.

Rings. Yeah. It's all the same to me. And so I haven't had butter beer and I haven't seen any of those things. It's also, I feel like those are huge commitments that I... Right. I agree. Yeah.

I have not seen Lord of the Rings or Harry Potter. Oh, Harry Potter is really good. It's really charming. It's like really... It makes you want to be a kid. Oh, I like the idea of the school part of it and the like... Right. I like things like Annie and orphans in school and stuff.

That's the vibe. Yeah. But then the magic, I'm not... I'm not I have to believe in magic Well I guess they do I guess they do I guess if I saw it

I would believe Yeah How do you feel about people That play like dungeons and dragons And stuff? Do you think like Oh that's a vibe? I mean that

I mean it's a vibe I don't think It's a vibe It's a hundred percent a vibe And I'm not not there for it I mean no I'll take that back I'm definitely not going to be

There literally for it Right But I am there for that person I'm fascinated by them and I want to know everything about like, how did you grow up and what because it's, it says it's something. It's something. Yeah. It's something.

It is. It gives me so much information. I'm like, every, yes. Oh, I know. It's hard because you're always like, I don't want to judge someone like a book by its cover, but I do feel like it is definitely a type of person. Yeah. I think it is.

I think it's like your left brain or right brain, your dungeons and dragons or you're not. Yeah. I don't think there's a great area. No, I don't think you can, you dabble. No. No. No. Okay, so how, so you started acting when you were really young, right?

Yeah, like a 11. That's young. It's very young. Well, I, gosh, I, I, I, my mom took me to see Le Miz. And I remember, it was like a graduation president. In Montreal, we graduate in grade six. and then we go to high school. And it was like our graduation party

and I think like Cori Nato was having a pool party and I really wanted to go to that but my mom got me to take a swimiz and I didn't want to go. Anyways, it was the greatest thing that ever happened to me because she took me and I felt like I left the earth watching that and I wanted to be eponine. And then I just wanted to be in musicals.

But I'm not a singer or dancer. And so I started this with this acting group there. And then a casting director saw me in a show. And I got my first audition for Are You Afraid of the Dark? Oh, my gosh. And I went to that audition and I did my lines directly to camera. And they told me you're not supposed to do that. And I got the part of Girlfriend.

Yes. Yes. I actually played Girlfriend twice on Are You Afraid of the Dark, different girlfriends. You were just the go-to girlfriend. And then that first one, I was just girlfriend. Yeah. Full stop. That's girlfriend.

Original, are you for the dark? Is there a new one? I think they've revamped it. What episodes were? Tale of Cutter's Treasure. It was a two-parter. And I had to, it was my first job, and I had to kiss the boy. And I wanted you a really professional.

And I went to the director, and I was like, so do you? you want a tongue kiss or a more mouth? Like I don't know what the varieties were I was offering, but he was horrified. But yeah, that was the first thing. And then then I did another episode as a different, totally different girlfriend. Totally different. Oh, my God, that's so funny. I remember, what was that show on?

It was Nickelodeon. Apparently was Rob's favorite show. I know. He is like, I love Nickelodeon shows. That is actually a thing I always get asked about in interviews is Are You Afraid the Dark? Because to us in Canada, that was like where every actor starts. Yeah. Or DeGrassey.

Right. And but I didn't know that it was in the States. Like, it was huge here. Right. Yeah. Yeah, it was. I totally remember it. But it's so crazy because there's so many like Canadian shows and you go up there and it's like CTV and like all the things.

You know? I love that you know CTV. I do. I know. I'm kind of like an honorary Canadian. and some are like Tim Horton's like Oh my god. Like that are important.

Yes, that is important. For sure. For sure. I know I can speak Canadian. I know. Olivia's just looking at me like I'm out. You're basically should be talking about Dungeons and Dragons. I'm like, oh, you link Dungeons.

My best friend in the whole world, Nila, works for CTV and she is your biggest fan. She's really, she really wanted to come. Oh my gosh. She should have. And when I did, I just did this movie with Peter Gallagher. And she was like, can you take my OC original and have him sign it? You should have brought her. Yeah, you should have brought her.

Well, now we're not going to be friends anymore. Yes, she's here. She's here. And she's a Libra. And she's a Libra. Oh, that's the friend that's a Libra? All my two best friends are Libra's. No way.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And you worked with Peter. Oh, that must be. Oh, my God. He is the loveliest man. He's great.

And so good. Yeah. He was so great. Not that I should be surprised by that, but it was a different part than I've seen him do. And he was just the loveliest. And yeah. That's so cool. I love to hear it.

Yeah, Peter. I spoke to him not long ago, but I saw him. But yeah, so it's just so interesting, you know, the crossover between Canada and the States. And obviously Shits Creek was Canadian because they're, right? It was a CBC. Right, CBC. And Eugene, and they're all from. You guys are all, well, you're from Montreal?

Yeah. Okay. And they're from. And well, everyone was Canadian except for Chris Elliott. And, you know, it wasn't originally going to be just Canadian. They tried to sell it everywhere in the States and nobody wanted it. It was so crazy. Yeah.

And so then they went and did it with the CBC. in Canada. And a lot of the time, if you do stuff in Canada, you have to have Canadian content. So that's why, I mean, they had done a presentation pilot with different actors. Wow. Yeah. And then they had to recast Canadians. So, yeah, everyone was Canadian except for Elliot. Chris Elliott. That show was the biggest source of comfort during a time for so many people. Yeah. Like, it was like a thing. we all bonded over, it was like, I'm stressing out, I'm scared, I'm this, have you watched Schitt's Creek? You know what I mean? It was literally the medicine, at least for my family. And I know a lot of friends had the same exact experience. That's the thing we hear all the time. Yeah. It just was like the ointment,

like we needed that and it was at that time kind of became, it became what my husband and I did. Like that was it. Yeah. It was like we just. you know, watch Shits Creek, I started to think and talk like, Alexis. And I would be in the kitchen and he would be like, babe. And I'd be like, what? Yeah. I'd be like, you're becoming her. I'm like, I don't know how to stop. But you guys were all, each and every one of you was absolutely brilliant. And that show was, I mean, I'm devastated that it's not going to go on forever. It's so funny when people tell us how, like, when they heard that we weren't going again, how upset they were.

And I was like, it's harder on me. I don't have a job anymore. This is like, we really love each other. Like, that is our family. And, yeah, but it was the right thing to do. But it's weird. Like, so many people have said how during that time it was their comfort and their chosen family in a way.

And that it also, like, was something that the whole, It sounds weird, but the whole family could watch together that people wanted to, like, come together and do that. But I do think it was at a time also where it was a perfect storm, like politically things had gotten weird. And then COVID happened. And I think why people didn't want it originally in America was that at the time they wanted, like, edgy comedies. Like that one with the math guy. Breaking Bad? Yeah, Breaking Bad.

Oh, is that a comedy? Not really, I guess, but like those lines of edgier shit. Like, the wire was huge. That's not comedy either. They wanted not comedy. Right. But I think Schitts was the first of its kind to bring kind comedy. Like, I remember at that time wanting my funny to be edgier.

I didn't think I wanted, like, nice. But what it did really well was it didn't sacrifice its humor for its heart. Like it was always true. Yeah. So yeah, I think it was like really special and just the right moment. You don't see that a lot. Like you don't. The last show I saw that I'm like, oh, they did a really good job of combining the heart with the humor in a way where it feels kind of safe as Ted Lassow.

I felt like, oh, okay, you know, people are doing it. But for the most part, I feel like a lot of times it's like you get a like, like, you get a, like, laugh maybe, but you're not like moved. That show moved things inside of everyone. Loomy. Brought ideas is supported by Loomie. Want to smell better? Naked. Let's face it. Our underarms aren't the only place we have odor. That's why I am excited to tell you about Loomie, whole body deodorant for pits, privates, and beyond. Well, I am a big fan of keeping the, you know, clean down there. But I love that this is an all over deodorant.

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Get 35% off your first order of Sundays. Go to Sundays for Dogs.com. slash ideas or use code ideas at checkout. That's go to Sundays for Dogs.com slash ideas. Upgrade your pup to Sundays and feel good about the food you feed your dog. I think Dan did a really great job with writing these characters to have arcs over the season that were, and that's why he wanted to end it because he knew how it ended. And he knew that for Stevie to get that earned moment, I guess when we did cabaret, for her to become a businessman, a businesswoman,

that it had to be earned over a certain amount of years. And so I think he did that with everyone. And also he started to write for us a lot, like Patrick, you know, Noah's a singer. And so gave him that song. And yeah, a little bit of Lexus. He wrote that. Oh, wow.

Yeah, he gave us all like our dreams. That's so cool. I know. They're going to give me my dream. Me too. But kind of the better dream than we had for ourselves in a way. Like my dream was always to play Sally Bowls and Cabaret. And I had no idea that like I come for season five or whatever.

And I knew we were doing a musical. I thought I was going to be the person in black like Stevie moving furniture. And to find out that I got to be to sing that song maybe this time as Stevie is kind of the better song because as Sally it's like about getting a man and as Stevie though it's about her own kind of self-empowerment and that she can become the thing everybody believes that she can be that she doesn't in herself so it yeah he really kind of that's beautiful yeah it's beautiful do you feel that that applies to you personally too like how much is there a parallel between you and the character oh yeah I definitely think that there was a parallel

journey for us in that when I signed on to the show, I thought I was just going to be bringing towels to the family and saying a sarcastic thing. I wanted to work with Catherine and Eugene, but my agent at the time, because it was at the time just a Canadian show, there was no Netflix, things that you did in Canada weren't necessarily going to travel anywhere else. And so she put it in my contract that if I got an American show, I could do it if it didn't conflict, which is normally not allowed. You usually can't do two shows, but I got this other show, 12 monkeys, and I got to do it when, like, I'd shoot shits and then I'd shoot 12 monkeys, and then in the last season, they

overlapped. And so I would shoot shits during the day and then 12 monkeys at night. And it was, I mean, this just amazing experience to have this thing. But to answer your question, it was just. that it started out as something I thought I was going to be a bit part on that. I didn't think Stevie was going to be as great as she was. I underestimated Stevie. You did.

And 100%. Yes. Yes. And I underestimated myself that I didn't think that I was getting as great a part as I ended up getting. So, yeah. But that's very similar to you, Rachel. The way your part started out on the O.C was it started out as a guest Yeah, it was a guest star for the first eight episodes, I think. And then, yeah, it just evolved and

and went on from there. But it's, it is, it is kind of crazy, but cool to be able to kind of go on that journey and personally and professionally, you know, because it really, I mean, and that show did sort of the same, like, skyrocket, like thing, even though it wasn't like in real time. Yeah. Which is so interesting. Because I don't know when that ever really happens. Yeah, it was so weird because it was also not in real time because everyone was in quarantine. And I remember talking to Annie, who was, she was in New York and I was shooting something in Scotland. And everybody was wearing masks at the time. And then suddenly when the masks started coming off, I remember the first time I went outside without my mask and got like, oh my God.

And that was me pointing and screaming. Basically what I did to Wobby Wob. When I found out he was Wobby Wob. Yeah, and I was scared. I didn't even know. It was just so weird because it was out of nowhere. We were all like, even just to see people was weird. But then people to recognize you in a different way was new for both of us.

Yeah, I'm sure it was also, I mean, was it creepy at all that you went from doing this? And everyone's locked down and then you're all of a sudden in everybody's home, everybody's heart because of that weird trauma bonding that happened during the pandemic. That's funny. It was trauma bonding. Yeah, we all kind of went through this. And then we had our little safety nets. And you guys were one of those for so many people.

And then you go out. And now you're at a whole different level of your career once you open that door and take off the mask, right? Yeah. How was that for you psychologically? Well, I think the lucky thing is that the show. puts out such goodness that people love you. And my part in it is thankfully not something that people, I think most people like Stevie and want to be friendly with Stevie.

Like I think of that guy on Euphoria who's really good, but he plays such an asshole that like I can't imagine being known for something like that and people being as vocal, because as vocalist people are with me about how much they love Stevie. Right. Like if you're getting the other side. of that. But no, it was very, it reminds me of like, we also went on tour with the show. We did like little live show things. And the audience for that show felt different to me than any

audience of any show I've, like, I've never experienced something that big. But just in terms of like, everybody was so nice to each other. And like, just even lining up to ask a question, everybody was so good to each other. And it felt like the show put that out there. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah. It's a gift. The gift that keeps on giving. Shits Creek. I know. And so it's always like with kids and stuff. I'm like, I'm watching Schitt's Creek. And I'm like, wait, can I say that? It's like, yeah. It's a bad word. So shooting Schitt's Creek and 12 Monkeys, where does that leave your personal life when you were doing that? Like, how do you do that and have any sort of relationships

outside of that? I mean, don't. My relationships have usually, for the most part, always been with people I'm working with in some capacity or else we're just not going to have a relationship.

And I mean just, I don't even mean romantic, just even friendship wise, I was listening to like Whitney Cummings podcast that you guys did. and we're very similar in our workaholism. So, yeah, that was, that was, I think, a thing that set the bar for me to want to be that busy all the time. And so when both shows ended, it was very much like, bad.

Like, I have nothing. Yeah, yeah, it was not great. So I think I just kept seeking to just be busy. Right. What do you do to, like, for yourself to fill that? Well, I started writing my own stuff and started doing that. But also, I fortunately and unfortunately have aged, like my Canadian agent has been my agent since I was a kid. And I joke that, like, I can't go to the DMV and have like a break there or anything because she'll fill it with a job.

Like she's always getting me a job and great jobs. But like I've just been always having these kind of great opportunities to work and I just don't I don't say no unless it's not great than I do I guess say no which is kind of what should afforded the the opportunity to say no to things right right you gave you that no yeah right yeah big time yeah I mean saying yes to everything is also a job though yes yes totally because it's just I mean and I I I go back and forth with that like myself like what But you don't have kids? No, no. Is that something that you want in your life or are you?

No. I mean, I have two genetically perfect frozen baby girls. Oh, wow. Yes. Really? Seven. But so there was a time when I was going to maybe do that. But it was definitely I was going to do that.

I was in a relationship and the other person I think wanted to be a mom. And, but no, I've never really never had that thing. I think I'd be a bad mother. I think I am very, I'm work-obsessed. I love my work. That feels like my baby. Yeah. Right. Wow. So that you just have two. I'd like somebody to have them, though, that I know so I can be the cool aunt and see them. But would that be weird for you? because it's your eggs, right? Yeah. So it's like with that, how does that work in your brain?

It works very like, I feel bad to say how it really works. It works like, I want to see what they look like. Yeah. I would be like, yeah. Because my ex was very talented too.

I'm like, are they going to be like super talented? Oh, so they're actually embryos. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, got it. But no, I just know. It's even like with getting a dog, I'd love like a little puppy and all that.

But I know I don't want to walk it. I don't want to do any of that stuff. What if someone else wants to though? What if you end up in a relationship with someone that wants that, would you be down? Or you just like a no? At this point, no. At that point, I think I was with somebody I thought wanted that. And I was down for that, that I wouldn't be the mom.

Right, right, right, right. Yeah, but I wouldn't. You'd be the dad mom. Yeah. Exactly. I'd be the dad mom. Yeah. I wanted to be the dad mom 100%.

But now, no, just because I just don't believe that's possible. I don't believe that there wouldn't be, I just feel guilty all the time. Right. Yeah. Yeah. But they were fertilized with a different partner and then you were with another partner. And is that, am I, am I understanding this correctly? No, there's no other partner.

No. No, I'm not with anybody. Right, right, right. But I mean, like, they were fertilized by a partner at the time? Yes, yes, yes. Not by a donor. Yeah. Okay.

Got it. Yeah. I was just trying to. No, wait. I had it the same way. You did too? So it was a male partner that you did the eggs with? No, so it was a trans woman.

So it was. Oh, got it. Okay. Okay. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

So it does make sense. Yes. Yes. I was like, I have it. Because you were like, well, they wanted to be the mom. Yeah, sorry. Yes. No, no. That makes total sense.

Yeah. That's so, like, interesting to me. So I'm always like, I want to understand more, you know, like about all of that. And so you were with them. They were always trans. Oh, yeah. Like, it wasn't like you were with them and then they went through a transition. No, no.

Matter as a woman to me. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's so cool. I mean, I just, and to go through all that and, and the end. Egg freezing and retreat. Yeah, that whole thing is a thing. Right.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. A whole show on it. Yeah. A thing on the thing. But everybody I know who is going through that is like, I should do a podcast on it. I'm like there is one.

Like, because it is people don't talk about it. No, but yeah. The experience is like, and it's really, it's not nothing. It's, um, yeah. Well, there's also so many different versions of it. Yeah. Like on that show. there was so many different types of families that did it.

What do you mean? Like, there's not different ways. Right, but there's not different ways of doing it. No. The actual procedure is the same. I was like, Rob, I'm pretty sure. But you have to do the whole thing. Go through the shots.

The shots and the hormones. I think, yeah. And it's just like, it's really expensive. It is. I remember going to get my prescription, those injections. And when they told me how much they were, I was like, oh, no, I have insurance. and really good insurance. And they're like, yeah, no, it's not covered.

And it could be wasted. Like, you could get two eggs out of it. Well, that's the thing. Oh, my God. That's the craziest thing is that you do, like, they take out, like, let's say, 10 eggs. And then every day, babies die. Every day. And then you end up with, and then you get them genetically tested to make it.

It's like a whole. Huge process. Big process, big experience. And, yeah. How do they know the gender? Because when they test it. Well, that's when the embryos made. That's what I know.

Not from the egg. No, she knows she has two girls from them. So I'm just wondering the process to... Because you went further than just pulling the eggs. You made the embryo. Yeah, but when you do the genetic testing, they tell you what the gender is. Just like when we do genetic testing when we're pregnant,

they tell us the gender. Same thing. Science. Because the DNA. Yeah. Science. Science. I don't do science.

My brain doesn't. No, I'm just kidding. When you were pregnant, do they test for DNA things? They do. They do genetic testing. And then they tell you, we know the sex if you want to know it or not. But I think that's only, for me, they did it because I was high risk. They probably didn't do it for you, Rachel.

Yeah, because I think it's a risk to do a DNA test. So they did it and they didn't catch mine. But the thing is, is that they do it. Oh, my gosh, they did the test when you were pregnant with Shepard? Yeah. I have a kid with a chromosonal abnormality. and they didn't touch it. But they have to do it if you're a certain age. If you're 35 and over. Then you're automatically high risk or whatever. You're automatically a geriatric pregnancy.

Yeah. And they touched it. So. Oh my God. To be 35. Yeah. In general. Are you kidding me? Yeah. Oh my God. So they do test it. But it also, I know a lot of people right now going through that process. And then they have to make the decision, do you test the egg or not test the egg? Because if you test the egg, you could be compromising the integrity of the egg and you could... Oh. Oh, what? Oh, yeah. It's a huge choice. But then so, God, that is a huge choice because then you test it and what you find out, is that going to change your decision? And, but do you also find out if that testing compromised it? And that was the thing that... Right. Yeah. See, this is what... why I don't have babies.

That's why I keep them frozen. They are so good. Talented. Yeah. They're talented. Would you let your partner have the baby? The babies? My ex-partner?

Yeah. Yeah. 100%. Yeah. I would like somebody I know to have them. That's cool. Yeah. That is cool.

Yeah. I mean, you can speak to that stuff like personally. Just how? Wow. How? No, I mean, like you were saying... Wait, did you do it? Did you do it? No. No. I'm sorry. My brain was still on the testing of the embryos and the eggs and stuff. That's what I was... Wait, how can I speak to that? Because you did it. What? Did I do? I did it. That's so funny. No, but then it was tested because I didn't go through. I didn't experience that. Oh, well, we have talked about this. So before when I was pregnant, right? They're like, okay, so we want to do genetic testing. And you make that... choice. This is the weird part is that they don't really prepare you for that. They're just like, you test it and you go, okay, you test it. But for me now with a kid with a chromosonal abnormality,

knowing what I know now, I wouldn't test it because I wouldn't have my son if it would have showed up. Oh, do you get what I'm seeing? Yeah, yeah. Which is like bananas. Yeah. But wait, would that have been a decision to make? Yeah, because you get it early enough. You get it early enough, and if a kid has a bunch of chromosomal abnormalities or down syndrome or anything, they say, here's your choice. You either have an abortion or you go through with it. And back then, I would have thought, oh, you have an abortion. That would have just been my, that's what I would have thought.

But now having a kid that has those differences, I see it different. And you found Jesus. Don't believe in abortions, right? No, I still haven't found Jesus. No, but it is that, and even when you said Down syndrome, there's an actress, Katerina Scorsone, who has a child with differences, and the way she talks about it has totally blown my mind in a way that this is like, this is not something, this is special. Like, this is, actually, there's so much greatness about this that I don't think we've ever been told.

The narrative has always been like, that's a problem. Right. That's right. That's what they're testing for when they test your eggs. Oh. They didn't tell you that, though? We were told. They tell you, but they make it like it's like a medical thing.

Like, we're going to do genetic testing, right? And this is that. But the thing is that the bottom line is like that narrative is kind of trying to get rid of abnormality. Yes, yeah. You know, as opposed to. Letting it next. one come all. You know what I mean? Yeah. Yeah. But also to have to make that decision. I just wouldn't want to. It's really hard for people. Yeah. Really hard. Yeah. It's completely knowing Shepard, her son is my

godson and knowing what I know. You know, it's just like. You found Jesus, right? That's why it's your godson. Rob. Rob is really in the Jesus. Right. Do you have children? I do. I have two. Yeah. We're not saying don't have abortions. We're saying, we're just saying. I know. It's just changed perspective because we know this soul that is like the most special thing. I mean, it's hard because he has a brother who is also very special. But like Shepard is just like this dynamic. You can't even explain it, this soul energy. It's like so crazy. So it's kind of just changed that whole. But it is a narrative and it's like one of those things that that's put out in society that this narrative is out there that I've completely done in 180 on personally.

Well, I think that's good. I think differences. And it is, it's all narrative, right? Because even when you say my partner, it was there, we made their embryo, we automatically go to, okay, so your partner was a man. Right. Right. Which is just, again, the narrative that we've been taught and things are changing and it's starting to become more normal. But yeah, it's just. Yeah.

It's just exposure. Yeah. But yeah, it's the same thing, us trying to, like, compute, like, you know, figure it out when it is, but it is changing. The narrative all around is changing. Clearly, I mean, there's so much. Can't believe you're loving. By the way, you have made his life today. Like, he's still, look at him. He's just greening from ear to ear over there. It's so cute. I'm not really usually like a fan girl about people.

Because I don't watch anything either. I don't listen. We were talking before you got here because you were late. But we were trying not to talk. But yeah, I only listen to murder podcasts. I don't. But Dax Sheppard, that armchair expert is the thing I listen to. I don't watch any television except for, again, murder.

But that one, that's wrong while you all. What kind of murder are you into right now? This is something that we've really dissected on the truth of... How would you kill your partner if you had to? I mean, if I had to do it and get away with it? Yeah. I mean, it's acid is the only way that you're going to really get acid. Like dropping a body in a vat of acid?

Yeah, yeah, kind of because that'll disinterprey. Make sure it's not in a bathtub. Yes. It disintegrates the body, but do the teeth remain intact? No, acid leaves away. It eats everything. You just also, though, don't buy the acid with a credit. card. Like, don't...

Yeah. Yeah. But there's also, like, cameras in the stores. That's the thing. And that's one get acid. Like, what? I think there's a lot of, like, why there's not as many serial killers. You think they start tracking these things, then? Well, yeah. You're also always on camera. But I do find those things so funny about criminals who, like,

post on social media and, like, that guy, a pizza guy. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who got caught. Yeah. I do love just watching the, I don't I have a different thing than the ring, but like watching people when they don't know they're on camera, I could do that all day. Right? Just. Is it real reality television?

I'm kidding. I know. It's better than reality television. I know because they really don't know. It's actually real. And there's some just great dialogue and these amazing things that people just say. I do it with animals. When I was living up north, I would wake up every day and check it because I'd be like, what was in?

my yard and I'd see like fox and raccoons and like fox I'd see foxes but like I would always want to know like what's creeping through the yard oh well there's the CP something in silver lake there's a he's gone he died the mountain lion p 22 yeah p 22's died no it was really i had a really hard time at the great theater forum yeah when did this happen a couple months ago a few months go now? Someone like hit him with a car and then they found him and had to put him down.

He was not in good shape. Yeah. And he was getting more and more erratic. Like he took a kid from a house. Oh my God. A toddler. What? He like took a toddler from someone's yard.

I'm sure it was a kid. I think it was a chihuahua, Rob. I can't imagine that it took a toddler people were still like A mountain lion took a kid somewhere. No, that was a coyote that took the three-year-old in Wooden Hill. That was the dingo, the eight.

the baby in the Merrill Street. You're wrong. It was getting erratic, though. It was, yes. So they knew something was wrong. It was a chihuahua. I'm pretty positive on that, Rob. Or a small baby.

The day he died, I was at this restaurant in Silver Lake, and it was, like, used to be an old movie theater, and it had, like, a tribute to him because they're like, he used to frequent this restaurant. Oh, my God. I know. I felt so sad.

People were mad. Yeah, I was a little mad. But I guess he must, I mean, they wouldn't have put him down unless he was really not okay. Or if he took a baby. I mean, or if he took a baby. But he did not take a top. I mean, I feel like I have to Google

and check Rob's facts that are not. I think you're thinking of the coyote. I think that might be right. Yeah, that Olivia was talking about. No. P-22 do not take a trial. These are the things you see on the ring. Yes.

And these are the things we talk about here. Yeah. Only. See, I told you, we were going to learn something. He did go into someone's house, though. That was a thing It was like a sliding or a Wasn't that an actor that went into the house

And you like laid down There was some actor who did that Was it? Vince and Gallo? No I am going right now to Google Who was that? They did that.

Did what? Wait, tell me again It went into someone's house And laid down. Yeah, there was some actor who was doing that Yeah To a few places

Mountain Lion known as P-22 Captured after killing Chihuahua In Los Angeles. I believe that. I heard that one. By the way, nothing came up when I googled what actor there was an actor. There was an actor. It would go and just lie down to people's houses.

Yes. I mean, that's going to drive me insane. It's like Gary Busey, but not Gary Bucy. Okay, actor arrested for breaking into a home and taking a nude nap in a sleeping woman's bed. Who was it? Who was it? Was it Randy Quaid?

I mean, you're reading the article, but you're not saying who. Whom? It's not saying? That's... Randy Quaid and his wife were arrested for... Who's Jonathan? ...found apparently squatting in a California home. Huh.

That's not him. This guy's not famous. He's just... Well, everyone's an actor. The nude napper. The nude... Famous for being the nude nap. I feel like there's another show on the...

Horizon. Yeah, Jonathan fan. Oh. Did Johnny Lewis do that or something? I feel like it was an... actor that like I'd heard of but yeah I'm with you as for Miller oh is that it oh that's the recent

like flash guy that's like been in the news but I didn't know why or what he was doing okay he was doing some pleaded guilty Friday to a charge stemming from a break in and theft of alcohol at a neighbor's home in Vermont that doesn't sound like that doesn't sound like that doesn't that's not a napper

this person would like slept on their couch or something yeah just go in or go to sleep yeah yeah I don't know how to find my way back No. We're all laughing. We're lost in the sauce. We're lost in the sauce. Wait, what murder shows are you watching right now, though?

I mean, this is not murder. I haven't seen a new murder documentary because I've seen them all. But that one, Paul T. Goldman, which is not a murder show. But it's just in the same category as true, not necessarily crime, but that. kind of thing. Have you seen Paul T. Goldman? No. Oh my God, it's so funny. He made it himself and it's like reenactments, but he's reenacting, he's playing himself and hiring

people and it's this really bizarre, it's really weird. Is that the thing you sent us? I think it might be. Yeah, yeah. I feel like you, and he like... And like, the people making it, I think, are in on it and he's not. Yes, yes, yes, yeah, he's not because he had this wife who he thought she was a prostitute and had this whole sex trafficking ring. But would only see him like once a week. Yeah, yeah.

It's much better than we're describing it as. But that doesn't really count as murder. That doesn't count as murder. No, I just, but I also... You're like, we're murder-specific here? Yeah. What's the last murder? Do you guys watch me?

She does all. That's all she watches. The last one. The last murder one I watched was the sins of our mother. Oh. You know, it was the mom and she became part of, I want to say it was like a, it wasn't Mormon. It was Church of Latter-day Saints. Oh, that is Mormon, babe. Okay.

But it was like, but it wasn't that. Like, that's not what made her. Like it wasn't Mormon. It was Church of Latter-Dade. No, but that's, I don't know. She ended up with like a cult type guy and she ended up. taking the lives of her children? Oh, I didn't see that one. I didn't see that one.

I got so fucked up reading Helter Skelter back in the day. It was, at the time, I lived in Los Phyllis reading this book in one of the places. You lived in one of the places? No, it was in Los Felis. Oh, yeah. I didn't finish my sentence. You stopped and looked in it. Well, because I was trying to remember which, if it's the murder house, that's like for sale right now in Los Felis.

Oh. No, that's like the dentist. That's the black dahlia. No. This is the dentist father. Maybe he's a dentist. I might be... The father who went and murdered his family in the middle of the night.

I want to say he was around Christmas time. That's the Eagle Rock House. No. There's one of those, though, where you could go and see the Christmas presents in the house. They're still there? They recently renovated. Yeah, they recently renovated it. But this guy snapped, killed his whole family and himself on Christmas Day.

And the, like, tree was still up. Presence were still there until like a year or two ago. Oh my God. For how many years? Like 20? What? I feel like you're getting this confused with... No, that's the thing.

It might not be... These might be separate things. 2475 Glendower Place. Okay. This is the infamous Los Felis Murder House or Murder Mansion during episode six of the apes. The agency of the property...

Sorry, they did a show apparently on it. Would you move into a house where people were murdered? No. When I was looking for a house, there was one that I liked and someone had died in it. Naturally? Yeah, they were saying it was naturally, this was this house. It was good. But they were really pushing the good energy of it a lot that I felt like. Something's dicey. Yeah. I don't, I mean, I'm sure every house someone has died in every old house. Someone's died in this house.

You know, I can feel it. I mean, this is built in the 20. to disclose. No, I mean. Or after seven years. That doesn't mean they die in it. Wait, what? After seven years, they don't have to disclose?

Yeah. But once it goes through different owners, like, if you don't know and then the person doesn't tell you, it gets lost pretty quickly. But there is a rule. Who's up behind you? There's a rule that they have to disclose. They have to disclose it. Yeah.

I'm maybe. I don't know, like, did you ask if she would move into house or someone was murdered specifically? Murder. Or just die. 100% no. No. No. No, no, no, no.

No. No. Would you? Do you believe in spirits? But what if it was your dream house? I don't... And it was like half the price. No.

What it would cost? That would actually make me even more skeptical. Because when something's like, oh... Too good to be true. On sale? Like, what's wrong with it? Would you? Because you're not a very spirity type guy.

He's not. He doesn't believe in like that. Yeah, I mean, I would... I'd probably want to renovate it. Not siege it, but renovate it. We're talking. You'd want to renovate anything, though. When we moved in here, though, Calvin, like, said he had a friend Peter that he would see.

Okay. Just like out of it. And we didn't know anyone named Peter. He was, like, three at the time. He was talking to Peter. Did you then go down a rabbit hole and look up all the people that had lived here on this house? Yeah, the first thing I would have done. I would do that, too.

Right? Yeah. But wait a minute. So, do you believe in ghosts, spirits, all of that kind of stuff? I didn't until I listened. to, I think it was this American Life episode. It was some episode called I Am Monty Cliff, and it was about this actor.

Montgomery Cliff. Yeah, haunted. Well, no, but this other actor who was haunted by the ghost of Montgomery Cliff. And you have to listen to this because his friend is Parker Posey. She comes on and talks about, like, it's so believable what happened to this guy, the way it's told that you just,

there's stuff that actually medically happens to him that it couldn't there's no other explanation for it and it really made me believe that it's yeah possible

scripted podcast no rock he's such a non-beliemer when I went for hypnosis my hypnotherapist I was just geeked on him because I was like this is the weirdest

person I've come in contact with. And there was this poster up on the wall. And so when I left, I, like, researched him and that poster and, like, what it was. But you didn't research him before you bought that. No, someone gave it to me as a gift. They're like, I paid the guy, because it was to quit smoking. They're like, I paid the guy. You show up. Did you do Carrie Gaynor? No, but I heard about him. That's who it is. Oh, okay. So then I start researching him. And I was like, oh, my God, he worked for the FBI, solving murders. And one of them, they made a movie about. And, you know, that he was part of the investigative team of a woman that was being raped by a ghost.

What? Yeah. Wow. Wait, what? Yeah. What was, is there video footage of it? There's a whole movie. I mean, there's a whole movie.

I don't know. They made a movie on it. I think the movie's scripted, but he was part of that team investigating it. So, wait a say, I have so many questions. Did the quitting smoking thing work? Yeah. I haven't smoked a cigarette and, 12 years. Oh my God. Mine worked for like

four months. And then it kind of, because I didn't go to that guy. You ought to go to Carrie Gaynor. But wait, he, so he does hypnosis, but does he obviously does everything on the other side? I'm wondering, I don't know. It was just

in the past it said he did that. I don't know if he still does that. I just know that he made me quit smoking and he used to do that. Was that the guy from Nathan for you? Remember he hires the ghost hunter to exercise a house. What's that?

Nathan for you. You've seen it. It's really funny. He's Canadian, isn't it? He's Canadian, yeah. Who's that? I don't know. You do.

I don't know. I guess someone with him, and then she says she was raped by a ghost, and then he's just like standing there watching these two. Can you elaborate on this by a ghost thing? Because like, I mean, but like, what's, was there evidence? I don't want to. No, I know, but I don't. I feel like, it's our Virgo.

Yeah, it's a Virgo brain. And you're like, is there a consent? Version of. Like, repeatedly. in one instance or take us through it? Yeah, like, is it over a course of months and he kept revisiting? Like, yeah, that's the question. Like, was this like...

Carry on. I'm going to look. I don't know how to carry on because if this was so believable that people had like the police and stuff investigating. I don't... My Google search is just the next level. It's like, who's the actor who's... Sleeps naked in people's house. What's the movie I'm being raped by a ghost? Patrick Swayze ghost.

I mean... How would you feel Patrick Swayze came at that period of his time? Oh, I was so in love with him. Oh, my God. I had his picture up on my bunk bed, like the ceiling, so I would say goodnight to him. I had every poster of his. I saw every movie of his. And I wrote him a fan list.

was the first thing I ever wrote to anyone and I gave it to my mom to mail. And I never heard back from him, but my mom came back in the room and she started talking to me about loose women. And there told me a story about this girl at her school called, they called her Horsey Jane because she was, because I think in the letter I put like, I want a dirty dance with you. So my mom started to talk to me about some kind of lesson that it's real bad to be. But anyways, I don't think she mailed it is what I'm saying. Oh, because she wrote. Yeah, yeah. But I was so in love with him.

So in love. He was my first love. Yeah. I don't think I've ever had a crush like that on an actor or anybody. I went through him and I also had my Johnny Depp, like crybaby face. I don't know if I have a cry baby sweater. What? Yeah, I do.

I stopped wearing it for a lot. little bit when it was the little lip but then when it turned it was so happy because I love that sweater. You know what I would do for a fucking crybaby sweater? It's pretty amazing. I think it might be called the entity. I don't know. I don't think that's... I don't want to know about the... I just want to

know the details of the actual... I just want to know one thing that would have made people be like, oh, she's telling the truth. Rapeed by a ghost. Right. Right. It's called the entity. Is it? Because I feel... I mean something had to if they're calling in other people to come invest.

investigate it, there's got to be something going on. Yeah, my brain goes like, is she just like kind of, you know, not all there? And is she doing it herself? And, like, you know, put, I don't, I don't, was there video. Video is what I'm after. Yeah, that's where I, because, like, this movie was in the 80s.

Oh, it's a movie. It's like a, it's like a, it's a movie. It's based on it. Oh, based on it. But if they made the movie in the 80s, no one, there's not video. No, there's not. Yeah. Or there's 70s. And you didn't have the means to, like, CGI things then.

But, like, Look, you're sitting there and you're like, my brain is like, well, was she doing it? I'm sure their brain was asking the same questions, right? And something went further than that. Yeah, I just don't know what it was. I know. That's our point. I became obsessed, like you, with Carrie Gaynor.

Because I was like, well, now all I want to do is Google Carrie Gainer. This is the Doris Bither case. Doris Bithor, tell us about Doris. Also known as the entity haunting. What is it, Rob? So, alleged paranormal phenomena in Culver City. Inspired the movie. Colver City, huh?

Yeah. So, Taff is Taff the ghost? Taft is a high school? Taff and Gaynor visited the Culver City House for the first time in August 22nd, 1974, few visits. Ghosts from the 70s are, like, different than ghosts now. Yeah. They did not, the investigators did not look into the spectral rate.

allegation as the alleged violence preceded their involvement in the case and Taff himself does not believe such incidences occurred. This is anti-climate? Yeah. That didn't happen. Which it probably was for her. Well, someone

thinks it happened. Yeah. They didn't even investigate it. Well, he investigated. Carrie did it? He said Taff didn't. So did you ever talk to Carrie about it? I never talked to him. Objects falling from shelves by themselves, strange lights, bad odors, cold zones. in the house.

But this was just her saying it and there was no other, there had to be like corroboring yeah. I know the word. Lost confidence on it. Yeah. I guess you're like, you're like committed anyway.

No, it says Taff and Gainer were the only ones who offered a description of these unusual occurrences. So I think they experienced it too. They know. So do you remember anything of like what was your hypnot? Did you lie down?

Did you... What was his thing? Yeah, it's really weird. You go into like a little garage outside of his house in Santa Monica. And it's like you feel like, hmm. It's like strange vibes. Okay. And he feels a little bit like a wizard.

Okay. And you sit down and it's like the simplest thing. And he's like, he does this thing with his arms where he's like... Like dances like Phoebe? He's like, not an option, not an option. And then he puts things in your head. Like he's just talking to you and doing this kind of arm movement. She looks like one of those advertisement blow up balloons.

Oh, yes. Yeah. Not an option. Not an option. And he does these kind of movements while he's talking to you. And then you sit down and kind of lay down. And then for me, what he did is he implanted things like, if you see someone smoking, I want you to instantly put your hands over your heart and be like, oh, my God, thank God.

I don't smoke. And he's like, you see them smoke. It's basically like you seeing a toddler with a loaded gun. And I want your visceral reaction on that each time. And he does that and that and that. So then, like, literally, after a while, I'd see someone smoke and I'd be like, like, it jolted me. Like, it was offensive.

So when you left there, did you right away leaving that you didn't want to? No, you smoke. You keep smoking. You go back three times. Three times. Okay. So you keep smoking and then you go back and then you smoke one more time and then you're done. And he didn't do any asking you question because my person had like a bit of an intake thing of like asking when I like to smoke one I.

None of that. So no. Wow. He just goes straight at you. With the arms. Yeah, with the arms and the body movement. But then he would put things in there too that I'd hear come up years later like I would see people smoke and it would be like I love my body. love my soul. Oh my God. And I'd be like, I didn't put that in that. Oh my God. I want to know.

Does he do other? creepy. That's where I go. He does it all of it. He's going to do creepy shit that I don't want. No, she was thinking if he can do hypnosis on other things. Yeah. I know. Sugar, like, yeah. Like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh, sugar. Yeah. He does it for all of that. You never smoked again after that. I have not had a huff of nicotine in 12 years. Whoa. Wow. Wow. That's amazing. Because I did that and then it came back. and then I did it again because it worked for a little well. But then I smoked again. And the thing that really got me to quit smoking was I had gotten a divorce and, see, I was

the first time in my life I was ever dating. I'd always been in a relationship and I was a leper in L.A. Like at that time, smoking was disgusting to everybody else. And so I was shamed kind of into quitting, which was great. And then I did also read that Allen Car book. I read it a couple of times, but like that was the time I needed. And I went to vaping. And then that, I remember I was on vacation with a friend of mine who still smoked.

And we left the room and halfway down the street, he was like, oh, I forgot my cigarettes. I have to go get my, and it was, I was so annoyed by that desperation of like needing the thing that I was just like, oh, I'm done. That Allen Car book is genius. I did that at the same time. Oh, yeah. It really is. It's genius. I want to do it for every bad habit.

What's it called? The easy way to quit smoking. Oh. By Alan Carr. He basically is like, smoking is basically this in a nutshell. It's wearing shoes that are too tight so that you can take them off and feel the relief. Oh, I forgot. That is.

And I was like, that is it right there. Like, you think you're getting relief, but you're the one putting your shoes on too fucking tight. Yeah. Like, stop putting your shoes on too tight. You won't need that relief. Oh, yeah. That book is amazing. Do you want a good book for not eating sugar?

Yeah. Well, it's not just sugar. It's like I think I'd like to have food not as a thing of like, oh, I've just wrapped a movie and I have this much time where I can eat bad things. And I want it to just be like a normal person. The Bible. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

You're wrong. What is your Jesus kick today? You know who found Jesus. I know. I guess I'm going to tell you guys. How to Feed the Hungry Heart. Have you heard of that book? No.

It changed my whole. I used to have binging name disorder. You go through phases. I do. Not in a disorderly fashion now, though. Right. Like it used to be disorder. I just binge.

Well, no, I wanted to talk about it. Don't want you to be a liar. No, I still. I still comfort eat or overeat or whatever, but there's no like disorder that's attached to it. Wait, so just that reading that book was the thing that did that. You know what it taught me was self-trust, and the relationship with food was based on self-trust. And without that, you can't have a healthy balance. So I used to not be able to eat a cookie without eating the whole box, right?

Same. So I learned to do the whole, like, I trust myself. Just read the book. Okay. Wow. It's a game changer. Wow. Self-trust does make sense.

though in terms of I will put anything into a rule thing of, like eating or any kind of thing I do, I will make rules about it. And so I think that if I break one of those rules, if I fuck it up, then like everything's ruined. Yeah, that's it. That's exactly what it teaches you to move out of. Or we could all find Jesus. Yeah. I feel like that works.

Does Jesus, like, show up when you have sugar cravings? Yeah, and he like slaps it out of my hand. Oh, you're the one that sees his shape in like your coffee foam. You don't drink coffee, but if you did. In my macho. In your macho foam? Ice. On your toast?

People have seen Jesus on toast. I used to in Chicago, there was this bridge by my apartment that they saw the Virgin Mary, like, water stain. You did? No, I mean, people would come and leave, like, flowers there. For years. You never saw it? You could see it, yeah. I saw it.

But what the heck? I don't know what he's getting up today. Is this the first time he's asked about the baby Jesus? This is the first time ever that Rob has consistently brought up Jesus. This isn't like his thing. I don't know if you brought the Holy Spirit with you. I mean, I do actually always say to my manager when, because I feel like things will just, if something bad happens, it's like something really good is going to come.

come my way. I'm like, because I was like the baby Jesus. Because I was good. I was raised like Catholic. I went to an all-girls private Catholic school. I did my first communion. I did all those like. Did you your confirmation? Confirmation. Me too. Really? Oh yeah. Oh. And I believe that if I don't like when I would go to an audition or something that if I haven't worked hard enough, I will be punished by. Yeah. I have that Christian guilt. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Did you do the, did you eat the host? Oh, yeah. Did you? I ate my host. So you guys were baptized. We're baptized.

Yeah. And it was, it's a big. My grandmother baptized me. That's not. I know, it's not like official, but she did. That's called giving you a bath. It's a big deal in my family that my kids aren't baptized. Oh, really?

My parents have been like, can we take them, like, they're over over? And I'm like, if you want, you can. That's fine. I don't care. Like they would do it? But I'm like, do you think if Calvin died, he would go to hell because he's not baptized? What do they say to that? They said no.

Okay. What do you guys think about that, though, from growing up? Because I'm considering taking my kid out of a Catholic school because I'm not Catholic. And he's supposed to go into second grade. That's when you do your sacraments and do the Holy Communion and all that, right? Whoa, they make them do that at that school? They don't make them. You can be different religions there. Oh, okay.

But it is, I'm just kind of feeling like, I, don't think we need to take him through that process because we're not cash-line. Why is he in that school? Is it just a good school? It's just a good school. Good community, good people. All around grade. Because mine was definitely, I'm so cool. I didn't want to go to that school when my mom forced me to go. And at the time, I was like, all lesbians. Because it was all girls. I mean, it was, but in a great way. But it just, it was a great education. Like, had I gone to the other school, I wouldn't. not have had that attention and my life would be completely different. But are all the other kids eating the body of Jesus? Yeah, if you get stuck in it, it's, if you can get out of it, there's

value. If you can have perspective on it, that it's like a tool, I guess, for, um, were you raised religiously at all? Her mom's a witch. Oh, really? Her religion is witch. Oh, wait, I heard the Whitney Your mom is a sex therapist. She's not like technically a sex therapist, but she's, what would you say, a sex counselor? She's very, she doesn't have like a degree as a sex therapist, but she counsels and very openly and elaborately and is well-versed and well-knowledged in the area of sex. So how did, if she didn't get like a degree, how did she start in it? She just, well, she got very, she was very spiritual. How'd she get into sex work?

Yeah. She was raised strict Catholic, though, the whole life. That's how you get into it. That's how you get it. Yeah, yeah. And then she, you know, just found kind of spirituality and went to like mystery school and like all these other things and just opened herself that way. Tantra. No pun intended. Super into Tantra, you know.

So I grew up in a very open household talking about sex, not open like she was, you know, whatever. But no, but just like very open lines of communication around the area of sex. You know, very sex positive. Oh, wow. Yeah, like uncomfortably so for like a young teenager at 14. My mom's like trying to be like, you know, and the man. Pleasure the woman and like, you know, just like. Oh my God.

But like things that. I couldn't say the word. I can't still to this day say the word like bra in front of my daughter. Right. I don't anything. Totally. never talked about anything. Yeah, like in one my mom, oh, the door just opened.

Did you see that? Peter's here. Peter. Peter. Peter has joined us. You got to say hi to him and let him know you acknowledge him and then he'll leave you alone. You love you, Peter. Love you, Peter.

But what's so funny is like, so since it was so open to me, I didn't think it was a big deal. Like, because sex, especially in, you know, the United States, like, everything. And it's not talked about in a way where it can be comfortable and, open and my mom would always talk to me about things. And I went on the Wendy Williams show. Remember the Wendy Williams show? And to me, it was just like, you know, what you talk about. And I don't know why. I can't remember how it came up. But I'm like, yeah, it's like, you know, if the guy's like performing cunnallengus and I say that on the Wendy Williams show. Oh, my God, I cannot wait to go.

Wendy Williams's face. I was like, why does she look like what happened? Like, what just happened here? What is happening? But they cut it out. Oh. I was so excited to Google. They either like bleep the word or they edited it. I can't remember what they did. And I remember thinking like they cut that out.

Like, huh? Because to me, that wasn't like a quote unquote bad word. What were you compared? What was the company? I'm like, why did I even bring that up on the Wendy Williams show? She's like, how you've been? Lots of condolinos going on. I don't remember.

But yeah, but that's just like, what you talk about, you know? It's so interesting, though, because I see it in me now when other people talk about anything, I'm even getting weird now. Everything's shrinking to, like, anything womanly, I get weird about. Right.

Yeah. So. I mean, I still get uncomfortable, but I say things. And like I said something recently on the podcast that went kind of like wildfire. And literally, it was Whitney's episode. It was Whitney's episode, and Whitney said she couldn't have an orgasm from sex until she got off birth control at 40. And I was like, oh my God, I couldn't have an orgasm from sex, like literal penetration.

Yeah. So you're 38. I heard the podcast. You heard the podcast. Yeah. I was estimating. It was like my later 30s. It took a while for me to know my body.

And I really, it was my later 30s. But it was more, it was just about me. And my body had nothing to do with any partner I had had or have or whatever. it was about me knowing my body and learning it and being able to do it. And I think anatomy can play a role in certain aspects. But I believe I can get there because I know my body so well now that I now have the ability to do it. Yeah. And the comfort level of just feeling.

And it's not even, I totally get you that it's not about the other person. It's your kind of comfortability with yourself being that vulnerable in a way. Right. Yeah, it is vulnerable. And it's knowing your body. like literally can be specific as specific as like what position or angle or whatever. But that's all it was about. But anyway,

it explains my upbringing was very open. But I still get uncomfortable. Like even now, after we'd finish recording, I'll probably be like, I don't know if we should keep that. Why? No,

I'm just saying it is, it is already out there. But it's like a vulnerable topic. And I do get funny. It's not that easy to talk about pleasuring yourself or orgasms or, Whatever it is, it's still kind of this taboo topic that I believe should be talked about openly, but I still also feel a little uncomfortable sometimes. Yeah, but also things now that can be talked about openly,

there's so many things that chop it up and turn it into little bite-sized things that were never in the context of what you meant it to be. So that kind of stuff I find really skit, like clickbait. There's probably a lot of articles about how you never came until you were 38. Which is not true. And when they're quoting it, the headline is Rachel Bilsen didn't come until she was 38. And then they say that Whitney says she didn't come until she was 40. And then Rachel says she was 38.

And the headline is still you. Yeah, but they're also dragging... Yeah, and then they bring in another... They're like, let's go through the people. It's like, don't drag people. It had nothing to do with any of that. This was just about me, you know? And it was like so frustrating.

I was really frustrated about it. because it has nothing to do with any of any partners anywhere. Yeah. And it's also just, it's now become that as the topic of the whole show, which it wasn't. No. At all. It was like, three hours of two seconds. Oh, I know.

It was texting Whitney last night at hour one. I'm like, I'm listening to your podcast. It's really great. Hour two. I'm like still listening. I can't believe I'm still engaged. But I love her. Love her.

And I loved how open she was about everything and just talk. about it. And I do like some of the, some of the feedback people are coming out like, this is great, sex positive, not talked about, like that stuff's good because I think it is important. But Whitney's the one that like, you know, Whitney's the one that started it. Yeah, Whitney's. I was going to say that we have, I mean, I looked up. 85.1% of women can't orgasm from just penetration penile stimulation. Correct. PNV. as the kids say. But it is positive to say, like, hearing that, because I know even when I first started having sex,

like, when I first started having the sex, like, it would fake everything and do it the way you thought you were supposed to do it. Right. And that you see in porn. And it, when I, this is a great narrative. Like, when I first started having sex, I was watching. Yeah. No, that's okay. But the point is that there's this expectation that you're supposed to.

So to put that out there that, you know, neither of you came from saying, I'm sure there's a lot of people who just aren't, are like ashamed about that they haven't and they're pretending. Right. Well, that's why we think it's important to talk about. Like what I'm doing right now. It's also important to not put it on the other people and shame them as well. Like, oh, you don't, it's not. someone else's responsibility. Your orgasm is your responsibility.

Thank you. Thank you. No, and we should do a little PSA with the more you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know? Yeah. No, yeah. The thing that made me the most bad was anybody else being mentioned with I had nothing

to do with anybody else but me. Well, it's also a very shameful way of looking at things instead of just being like, okay. Like, good, she found her orgasm. But it's not like I hadn't orgasm. That's the other narrative. Right, right. I was not 38 for the first time.

Right. Right. But you found it through penetration is what I mean. Which some people can't ever do. Correct. And don't have to. No. I don't.

That's not my favorite way. It's the C to V distance is what you found out. What? The C to V ratio. Oh, God, here we go. Rob and his facts. We researched it. What's the C to V?

It's like clit to both of distance. We've not tested this. I don't know. This is just information. We tested it. But I mean, like, paired like, oh, we can do that. Let's measure.

Four centimeters and three. Rob. Oh, my God. You can. Olivia. See, I'm alone again. I can't. What?

Have an orgasm from actual penetration? During penetration. Whatever. How would you say that? Yeah. From purely... Penetration. Correct.

However... But it's up to you in your body and how you're moving it in the position. I know how to do it because I found my orgasm. Right. It's not like someone presented me that. It has nothing. What's what the dude in his penis?

Right. And from what your mom explained to us, that it's actually not some G-spot a woman has inside of her, but it's the clitoris. Right. And that it's a myth that when, this is when she said. No, no, I really want to know what your mom said. See, I told you this, we're going to learn here today. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

That it's a myth. That's what she said, that the women don't have a G-spot that men do in their prostate, but women don't, and the only way a woman orgasms is through her clitoris. Right, so it's how you are positioned while having sexual intercourse. That's where the distance comes in, because all vaginas are different, and it's in different spots. Okay. Right. So, wait, there's no G spot?

That's what she said. I do believe her. Only in men's. She said men can orgasm, but not ejaculate to. Yes. That's the tantric thing, right? Where they can have the G spot. stimulated. I don't think a fist. I'm doing a thumb. I'm doing the thumb.

Welcome to brought in more you know. More you know. See what easy. Oh yeah. Game? I forgot. Yeah, we love games. Oh, good. You're not going to love this one. Which I find fascinating because it's like I feel comfortable talking about the sex. But I feel like what you've been through in your life, you're more comfortable having it. Oh, me? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're more open to different versions of it, right? Than talking about it?

100%. Right. Yeah, yeah. Isn't that interesting? It is interesting. Is that interesting? No, it is. Right?

Well, I feel like, yeah, because in that area, I'm more close off and more traditional, right? But you're more open and... Well, I think I'm more open in... Doing all the things. But in talking about it, I think it just, it's, A, the way I was raised, but also being a public-ish person, I'm, I used to, like the first podcast I did, I didn't think about what I was saying. I didn't, and you learn hard lessons that way. And I don't like to have to be self-conscious about every word that comes out of my mouth, but things will be set out of context and then it can just be such a nightmare. So I don't like talking necessarily

about any subject that could be skewed into something that I'm going to be so embarrassed about if my dad reads. Right. Yeah. I get that. Right. So now welcome to this. Okay. So turn it off, Mr. Hamshel. Yeah, he shouldn't be, this is not for dad. Not for dad. But you just say pass. Okay. Okay. Oh, we're giving our pass. option? You only get one pass. Are these like rapid by the, or is this or that? Okay. Or it could start us on a

conversation. We, you know, we're just open to it. Would you rather be in a cult or be a cult leader? Oh. This is hard for me because I love cults. I love, I have had periods in my life where

a cult seemed like the greatest thing. I'd I'd rather have a Whitney be my cult leader, and I'd rather be in that cult. I think I'm joining you. Yeah, yeah. I'm in. Yeah.

Okay. What's a green flag for you? A green flag. Oh. Oh. Someone who is just, it's that honesty of, like, how do I explain it? That when somebody's just so self-aware, honest, like they do something that, and then they call themselves on it.

I, that to me is, um, yeah, green flag. Integrity. Yeah, yeah. But even in a joking fashion, I just, because I can't stand any kind of fake or and I, or feeling complicit in the lie that's going around. And so I love when someone will do something that seems like a phony thing or whatever and then be like, oh, I was being just really fake there. Yeah.

Just anything that that goes to the root of the honesty, that is like, like, I like that person. Yeah. I love that. If you had to be stuck in Canada or the United States, what would you choose? That's probably the hardest question. Pick aside. Where are we politically?

Yeah, in that scenario. God, stuck in Canada are the United States? I mean, I guess I would say Canada. And it shouldn't be that hard, but I do. There's so much I love about L.A. But no, Canada. There's, I mean, Timbitts and Tim Horton's. That's right.

I think I'd rather be stuck in Canada than I'm stuming with you. Yeah, yeah. I think most people, yeah. I just thought weather for a second that crossed my mind that the weather. But like, there's some beautiful, there's summer. There's a short summer. Yeah, it's really sweaty and not great.

But yeah. But there's, I love summer there. Yeah. Oh, do you ever go to cottage country? like summer and going to swimming in the lake. It's pretty special. But there's also other parts of Canada, like, you know, B.C. Yeah.

I feel like B.C. doesn't count. Every time people from L.A. are like, oh, I've been to Canada and they weren't to Vancouver. That's not Canada. You're like that. That's where I've been. It's beautiful. It's beautiful and foresty and, well, not that that isn't. Okay.

Strangest reason you've lost attraction to someone. Oh. Strangest reason? I don't know. Or any reason. I mean. Most normal reason. Most strangest reason I've lost attraction.

I mean, it would probably be when they became attracted to me. That's like, that's a long time ago, but that was definitely something that, like, I was chasing the thing that, the rejecting partner. And then I'd get that. And when they liked me, I was like, oh, well, I don't like you anymore. Right. So, yeah, that's probably that. Yeah, and classy.

But yeah. Yep, I feel that one. What would be your death row last meal? Oh. Oh, gosh. I mean, the first thing in my head was Nutella, obviously, but Montreal St. Theater bagel and clean cheese. Montreal style bagel specifically?

Well, St. Theater Bagel is the originator of the Montreal style. Like, they are... Montreal Bagels? Yeah. It's totally different. It's totally different. Have you had Courage bagels? No, it's not, though.

It's similar. No, courage claims that it's like... It's not the same, but they claim it's the same. They're amazing bagels. Amazing. Yeah. But Montreal style, but it's a different thing. It's a whole different.

Because bagels everywhere else is like bread in a circle. Sometimes they get it a little right. But Montreal, they... boil them and then they put them in the fire oven and it's just a whole... And it's a different consistency. Yeah. They're the best. Yeah.

Have you tried courage bagels? No. They're incredible. Really? Yeah. But don't expect like a Montreal style. I'm just saying it's a little different. Yeah, yeah.

But they boil it. They do that. Because that's the thing I think people, like, New York bagels, that's not a bagel. It's not the Montreal. I'm a fan. Like I said, honorary Canadian. If you had to live in a movie, what movie would it be? Ooh.

The never-ending story. Oh, Falcour. Valcour. A Tartex. Yeah. And they're sinking. Oh, then the rock. Atre you.

Oh, my God. How do you feel about not wearing underwear? She's checking. Okay. I feel fine about it until, like, I went to get acupuncture. a couple of weeks ago and she was like, okay, just keep your underwear on and I didn't have underwear on. So I guess I feel like, yeah, I don't sometimes forget if I'm in this situation. Yeah, comfy clothes, you don't need them. Yeah. Are you guys uncomfortable? I have them on now.

Are we uncomfortable with the fact that you're not wearing underwear? No, I don't like no underwear with jeans. Oh, yeah, no. Jeans are in no sly zone. You need. It's jogging pants to It's like I'm currently wearing jogging pants Oh yeah In sweats I do not want underwear Yeah I agree But jeans is 100%

I don't want to that I love jeans I can't sleep in underwear Like if I'm in pajama Like I can't have underwear Under the thing Yeah Right

I switch to full butt We've discussed this I can't do it I cannot Just to sleep Okay Any conspiracies that you believe in? Conspiracy

Oh, there was something weird recently where you couldn't get eggs in L.A. And I was like, what is this? And a friend of mine who has chickens, her chickens weren't producing eggs. And we were trying to find out why. And she said it was some people were saying it was like something with the government. But then it was like also about what they were being fed or something. Anyways, I don't fully believe in that conspiracy. but I do want to know what the fuck was up with that.

Why couldn't, why weren't chickens producing eggs? Right. People were like stopping at people's farms and trying to like steal their eggs? Yeah, get their eggs. Do you refrigerate your eggs in Canada? I do and we do in Canada, but I worked in the UK and they don't. We don't always, when we're up there. We're supposed to hear.

What's the difference? You don't have to refrigerate your eggs. But on the carton it says too. Which is so weird though, the UK they don't at all. We just did a whole, before this recording, we did a whole hour and a half on eggs. Oh, really? We cannot wait to hear that one. It's flightless bird.

It's because they wash them here and it like removes a membrane or... But it's not real. Fresh eggs are definitely easier to keep unrefrigerated. Yeah, but it also doesn't met. Like, David tried calling the FDA and like the eggs associated. and oh yeah yeah we came to the conclusion

that it's just that Americans love to sue and it might as well it's just like a preventative that makes sense yeah I believe that okay

what would your funeral song be oh oh that's a good one that's a good one it's weird I wish she came up with that one I didn't I wish I did

my funeral song um uh well This isn't answering it, but when I got married, I walked out to Grounds for Divorce, which is a wolf parade song. And we were together for eight years, though. Wow. And I walked up the aisle to an arcade fire song, I'll believe in anything.

And so I feel like my funeral song will be, oh. Wolf Parade's a good vibe. You know Wolf Parade? Yeah. Oh, my God. I love Wolf Parade. I felt like nobody would know Wolf Parade. No, no, I love Lopoldt.

I know who they are, but that guy is all thing indie music. I love that, you know. Well, I thought that was just very, like. Yeah, I love Lopritz. I actually know who they are. See? She's the cutest.

Okay, funeral song. Oh, I mean, I'm really like Justin Bieber. I do too. I love Justin Bieber so. Like, you've lost Bobby Wob. Love yourself. Could you die? Love yourself?

Which one is that? How does it go? So when he wrote about Selena? You wrote it about Selena? Is it about Selena? Is that a fact? I feel like it wasn't. Then you should go and love yourself.

I sound horrible doing that. It's very hard to do that with the, yeah, but you know. And if you think that I'm still holding on to something, you should go and love yourself. Oh, yeah. Okay, I got it now. Thanks, guys. I was about to look it up.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And ideally he would be there singing it. Ooh. So Beaver is your funeral song. Love Yourself? Yeah. Arcade Fire has a song called Funeral. Yep. I like that, too. That is a...

It's a pretty song. What's your funeral song? I'd probably pick an Andrew Bird song. Which one? Three White Horses. Okay. This is it. Yeah.

It's a song about death, too. That's appropriate. Oh, this is a good funeral song. You're like walking in. Yeah. Are you in a coffin or are you in an urn? I'm in a seat. That would be so great.

Like a Puerto Rican funeral. Just like weekend at Bernie's. You know what? They should do. The music video for this song should be your funeral. Like. Yeah, like a little marinet. Yeah.

Oh, I love that. Oh, my God. That was a good one. What a... Oh. How do you feel... Olivia, what would you pick? Oh, God, I was really hoping you wouldn't ask because I don't have it.

I know. I don't really have my real one either. I don't know. Who did you say recently was your favorite, Elton John? Yeah. Would it be? Was you take Princess Diana's songs? No. That's so funny, though.

Please do it. Will that be amazing? I don't know. I mean, Tiny dancer. No. It would be like running. of the altar like a track star. Yes, that's it.

Yeah, yeah. I love that it all goes back to the Super. Justin Bieber. So talented. He is so gifted. I love him so much. He is so good. I mean.

Yeah. I have a Tim, Tim Beeb's fanny pack that. The beep? Oh, I know it's on. This is like the fanny pack? Yeah. This movie I did, the director got it for me as a rap. It was impossible to get.

She got it off like eBay. eBay and incredible. Yeah. This is super random, but I think it would be Stop This Train by John Mayer. Oh. You do love that song. Have you heard that song? No, but you keep talking about it.

You've got to listen to. Just this song, I don't want him to sing it. I hope my husband's still along. That song guts me. Okay, okay. Just listen to that one song. But do you want, are you afraid of, do you want to stop that train dying? So the message is to not stop the train.

Oh, okay, that's good. Do you get what I mean? It's like this train isn't going to stop, so just appreciate every moment you're in. And I think of that for my kids. Yeah. And it's like you can't stop this train like death's a part of life. You're on it. Keep going.

Okay. I thought you were going to pick graduation by vitamin C. No. Or here comes the sun. Is that overdone? Is that overdone? Done it. I don't think there's really a funeral song.

Well, why? You know what? Somebody needs to write a funeral song that everybody plays at their funeral. Yeah, just like go-to generic funeral song. How do you feel about people naming their genitals and has a partner ever named yours? Oh, I'm not. I don't. Yes, I think a partner,

once named mine and I was way too young to like actually have an opinion about it and now that I think of it, no, I don't want it named no. Do you care to share the name? It was like, it was, I believe it was Betty. Because of this Betty Bloom French movie. Has anyone ever named yours? Mine has not been named. It's been claimed. Oh, that's good. Oh, yeah. What does that mean? Yeah, what? She's like my shit's owned.

Yeah. That pussy's mine. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. I get that. You know? Yeah.

How would you feel if someone named it? Well, it depends on the name. What the name is. Yeah, that's the thing. But is there any acceptable name? Because if Betty's not one, I don't know what it is. Yeah. Betty feels like, yeah, that's my Betty.

You like you did well. It just, but it makes it like, cutesy and I don't You don't want it to be cute Bagina. You're like I know. I don't want the sex to be cutesy. Right. You want it like Zena or your princess?

But like I've been laughing, all that's it, but like baby talk and stuff, not. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get you. Rob. Rob? No. No. Lou? No. No.

Nothing. No one's ever named my... Your Pikachu? My Pikachu. I've named... I mean, I've stolen that word from Chelsea Handler. That's funny. Right.

Yeah. I love Chelsea Handler. Oh my God. I just saw her in South by Southwest. Like she did a set? Well, she was at this comedy thingy, and she did a thing. And I'm being very articulate because the point is that she was sitting next to me and said hi to me. She's so nice.

And she was so nice. And she was so funny. And like, yeah. Love her. Love her. Love her. She's, we just had her on. And she's a lot warmer than I thought she would be.

It's just like Whitney. Yes. Yes, they're both. Warm. And I don't know. Chelsea at all. But the vibe she gave was not at all. It's kind of the same way that I was afraid of Whitney.

And, yeah. Have you ever been in a fist fight? No. Me either. No. You have. Really? Oh, yes.

She's a throw down. I have what they call a checkered past. Is that what it's called? Yeah, that's right. That's right. So it's not just... No. You do.

It's all of us. Her brother... Her brother just got up prison. Yeah. On Friday. You're safe right now. I'm good, no. Yeah, she's not going to throw down.

Not why we're here. She might follow you. No. I just started boxing with this. this coach Dave. And I love it though, the punchy that. But I couldn't punch somebody's face like the nose and if I got punched. Yeah, it's not fun.

Yeah. But when, you know, when someone is drinking and they want to kiss the guy you're kissing. Oh, well, then that's different. Like it happened. Yes. Carry on. Ooh, I love this question. And you might not want your dad to hear this.

But how many partners would you be open to at a time? You mean like literally physically, like having sex with or you mean like dating-wise? I guess that's a great question. I guess like, yeah. Because I thought you were asking about a gangbag. So that's what? We're like, what are you up to Wednesday? Yeah.

Or do, so either way, however you take it. Honestly, now it's so, I, there was a checkered past that would have done all the things. But I'm just so work obsessed now and that I think I would be in said gang bang being like, oh, I just would rather be working. So I feel like now I'd be like, one is too many. If it's not, like, it's too much of work. So, yeah. Also, does everybody know like about it?

Is it, do you have to, it's stressful. Right. To juggle. Right. All that. So it wouldn't, like, interest you. Like, if it was like, yeah, we're cool, well, you know, multiple. No, not now.

I mean, I feel like been there done that. Yeah. Right. I feel that. Yeah. That's fair. it. How important is foreplay?

I mean who wrote that, Rob? That was me. These were all me. I was alone today. You did great. You did great. You did a really good job. I thought it was Rob. I think it's super important unless the whole foreplay of it is that there's no foreplay. Like, if the game is

we're just doing it. like in a bathroom. Right. But otherwise, I think foreplay is, yeah, just don't like the word foreplay. I don't either. There's words I don't like, I don't like forplay. I hate horny. I hate smoothie.

Oh. I don't like the word smoothie. Oh, my God. It's so good. Oh, that was good. You can see her cringe too. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Emily, you're so fucking awesome. You guys are awesome. Thank you. Let me sit on your couch. It's Wobby Wob's couch. Oh, yeah. Is that bad on it? If you need to have a sleep.

You need to be the act. You need to sneak in here and take a nap. I'm over all the time. Rob's your new friend. You can encourage bagels to try. Yeah, you've got to have courage bagels. They are really good. Well, then I'm going to get, so St.

Vieter Montreal bagels ships to me in L.A. because I need them that bad. So it's always too much. me and so I'll... I did that before for Hayden back in the day for a present. I ordered from them and you have to get like... Yeah.

There's like 48... Whatever. Yeah. Yeah. There's like boxes of these bagels. During the pandemic, there was a great British bake-off where they did Montreal bagels. Really? And I ordered a bunch. Oh, and you think courage bagels are better? That's different. It was shipped. So...

We're going to have a bagel party. We should have a bagel off. We should have a Canadian. I'm sure they're different though I am so, but like see I'm on your team kind of because like I feel like I... There's no teams here. There's no teams. I've never said a bagel off. Oh yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Pretty sure. Everyone gets a trophy. Yeah. But also Canadian chocolate like coffee crisps. Oh, coffee crisps are so good. Yeah. You would like a coffee crisp.

I think I would like every single thing you've mentioned. Yeah, you know what? We started this with... Beaver tails. How do you feel about a beaver tail? Yeah. I mean, do I like... Do deep-fried

With sugar on it Yes Yeah Absolutely I need to see Carrie Gator Yeah I have to pee

though Yes Right here That's it That's how we end We're all Yep How'd you guys like

Emily Hampshire I love Well first of all It's Rob's favorite guest ever Because Emily was so star-struck by Wobby-Wab

It was so cute How that makes you feel Genuinely happy. Yeah. Rob, how did that make you feel? I mean, it felt good, but it all, like... But I think what I told you guys is that it also makes me feel uncomfortable. Not uncomfortable. Like, I wasn't uncomfortable at her saying, and I just don't know how to react to it.

Right. Well, it's really flattering. Yes. That's what I mean. Ultimately, I feel good about it because it is flattering. Yes. But in the situation, I don't know what I'm supposed to say or do. in it.

Like, that's what makes me uncomfortable. You're supposed to dance. I wish Rob had like one specific dance that he just did. Yeah. When people are like, wabiwob, she did geek out. And then even after we were done, she was still excited about it. She was precious. Honestly, I thought she was going to be more intimidating than she was.

I did think she was going to be a little, I don't know, I just feel like, she's very worldly. Like she would be a little intimidating, but she was very cozy and comfy and sweet and genuine and fun and rad. Yeah, I really loved her. I related to her a lot to her like workaholic tendencies that she was talking about. Yeah, I really, I just, I'd like to be her friend. Rob already is her friend. Did you go to coffee with her yet, Rob?

No. Better get that on the books, sir. Soon, soon, soon. Has everyone's weak been going? Not good. I have an infected wisdom tooth, and I need to get all four of them removed. And it's brutal.

Surprised you have still had them. Are yours all gone, Rachel? I have all of mine. Still? Yep. But let me tell you a little story. My dentist wanted me, said you should go get these removed. There wasn't anything wrong with them, just that they would be hard to clean.

And I said, I choose not to go through that surgery. Please fill them. So they're all filled. Because they all had a little cavity. Yeah. That's my story. That's what they told me a long time ago, because they didn't like crowd my mouth or anything. But they kept saying you should get these out because they're hard to clean.

And I was like, no. And then now I have a swollen face and an infected tooth and have to get them out. Oh, you know what? You're supposed to do. Drink a lot of pineapple juice right now. What? What? Are you joking?

Pineapple juice is good for it. I think it helps with like the bleeding or something too. I did it before I got mine and it ended up helping. You did it for the chlamydia? Yeah, for the chlamydia. For when I got my wisdom teeth out. You drank a lot of pineapple juice? Let me see what the actual...

You better look this up. Yeah, yeah. Pineapple juice, wisdom teeth. This is like the first search. It's like a thing. Oh. Is it bullshit? Drinking pineapple juice before wisdom teeth will alleviate swelling in pain.

Oh. You better... Right now, better order some pineapple juice. I was wondering if this is true. Two girls were drinking 800 milliliters of pineapple juice the evening before the wisdom teeth removal. And Bull said the swelling was gone two days after surgery. That's what I want.

I know there's some kind of enzyme in pineapple, but I doubt it's enough. is their truth to it. Sounds marginally effective at best. Your oral surgeon should be able to describe far more effective anti-flumatories. But I can say I drink a lot of pineapple juice

before. I would just do it just for the mental piece of it. So you got yours out. Were you put to sleep? Yeah, I went under for it. Well, I'm so scared. So when I woke up, I don't remember it happening. But I apparently asked for the teeth.

So, like, when I got home, I had them on, like, my pocket. Of course, Rob was, like, not one apart with his teeth. He's like, oh, excuse me, can I have those? You didn't want to part with your teeth. I think I said when they woke me up was, can I have that? Oh, my God, that's hilarious. That is hilarious. I'm scared because I was with Elliot when he got put under to get his teeth removed.

And when he came out of it, he was so weird. Yeah, but he's a kid. Like, kids are fucking crazy. But he was like, mommy, mommy, mommy, mommy. Like talking like a two-year-old and like, I'm like, what am I going to do to Jeff? Like, I'm scared. I thought you said David was taking you. My brother was going to take me, but Jeff got work off to do it.

Oh, good. Yeah. I wouldn't be that worried. She is worried, and what did your brother say to you? I said to my brother, are you going to come with me? And he's like, are these baby blues the last thing you want to look at before you die? Or no, before you go? And I was like, wait, I'm dying?

And he was like, you could. Yeah. And I was like, great. And then Jeff's like, I'm taking off work. And I'm like, oh, great. It's that serious? You're taking off work? No, he just clearly doesn't want to send you with your brother who told you you could die.

So he's being a good husband. No, Jeff also is saying you could die. Well, Jeff told me, I said, my face is really swollen. Why isn't it going down from the antibiotics? And he's like, well, the antibiotics are just so you don't die. And I'm like, what? Guys, I don't want to die. I've got a lot to live for.

You do. I think you're going to be fine. Okay. She's going to be totally fine. You're going to be fine. I think you'll actually be quite happy about being put under. You get to like get high. Not be aware.

Yeah. A little freebie. Yeah. It's like, man. when they gave me that epidural when I was in labor. That felt good. Not the actual shot because I've heard that hurts really bad, but I was having a contraction as they were like putting it in my spine so I didn't feel that because of the contraction.

But the aftermath of the epidural is God's gift to the universe. It made me believe in God. 1,000 percent. I'm not religious, but I was like, a fucking men. Epidural. I was like, oh, there is a god. Yeah, it's everything. I was like, it's in the epidural.

Yeah. I was like, yep, I can push a baby out every single day. You know what sucks is that, you know, and I think this is a common thing with sober people. Like if you have to take pain medicine, like if you're going through a surgery or you're an excruciating pain, you're kind of like, oh, good. It's a freebie. Like nothing I can do about it. I have to take it, you know.

And I've been on Norco for the pain. but the pain's so bad that the norcose not even getting me hi yeah what's so i feel like i got jipped are you having to do anything with like do you have jeff administer your pills or he's aware and nose and all of that but i personally don't actually like pain pills so that wasn't her vice not your thing that was not my vice they always made me like itchy and uncomfortable oh my god my nose would itch so bad if i ever took Vicodin.

Yeah. Doesn't that mean you're allergic? So Rob and I agree with each other on the fact that when we do these talks and she decides she wants to do something else while doing these talks. Yes. We prefer her not to. We like to look at her face. Oh, if that's the only thing.

I understand that. I'm just kidding. No, I, you guys, I've told you this. I don't know if I've said it on record. I went to a Chinese. child psychologist of sorts when I was younger. And she said I'm a kinetic learner. And she said, if I could have a kush ball, now that's dating me,

because kush balls were a thing when we were kids. If I had it under my desk and I just threw it back and forth, you know, I would be way, like it would be way easier for me to pay attention in the classroom. We had an expert on armchair expert recently that said that multitasking is bullshit. It's bunk. Yeah. They've debunked it. And I just want a person's opinion.

No, but I know because you guys, if I'm literally if I'm doing something mindless, like think, I don't know, an example. Like, if I'm filing my nails while we're talking, I can focus on the conversation way better than doing nothing and just looking at you and talking. I don't think that's true. It's guys, I am in my brain. Like, I know. I'm like, oh, I'm actually really listening. If I'm slightly distracted by my nails. No, if I'm just like focusing on something mindless that doesn't, like you don't have to really think, you know, while you're doing it.

I'm telling you, you guys, I am in my brain. I have tested it many times. So having to be being forced to think about other things makes you think better on the present? No, I just, I can focus and listen if I'm doing something mindless. And the reason we bring this up is because she's currently doing her toes. No, I'm not. Painting them. And her face is just off screen.

Off. She's just like, her heads down pointing at us. Yeah, but no one can see. We can see. You're right. We can't. Yes. But you guys see me all the fucking time. You have to look at my face too much.

All right. Rob, it was your mom's birthday. What did you send her? And send her anything. I forgot about it. What? I forgot it was her birthday. Well, no, she's traveling right now.

They're on vacation for spring break. That's very out of character. There's too many people in my family. I try to add them to my calendar to, like, send to my nieces and nephews gifts when it's their birthday. But there's so many of them. How many? But this is your mom that you love. Yeah, it's your mom.

Yeah. My siblings and I have been talking about. So I'm not, like, totally unaware. We were talking about getting a, like, group gift for her. She wants a new flute, like a fancy one. I'm sorry? She wants a new flute. I'm sorry, a new flute.

She's a flautist? Yeah. How did we not know? Did we know this? Probably. She was a music major. She's a flautist. I love that.

She plays flute for the, like, church, like, two or three times a weekend. And then also in, like, an orchestra during the summer. Wow. Wow. So did you get her the flute? No. Do you know how much new flute costs? No.

No? No, how much? It's like $8,000 for a flute. What? Apparently the nice one that she wants. I did not know a flute could cost $8,000. Either did I. And I looked it up and it said like high end ones like $3,000.

So. That's muddy. Well, now, you know what? This makes so much sense, Rob, that you came from this woman who wants the $8,000 flute. Although she's not like that. No, I know she's not you. She's not bougie like you.

She just appreciates a fine flute. flute. I respect it. That's about it. That's the only thing I've ever seen her be like snobby about though. And she should be. That's her, her passion. Yeah. I support it. You should get, I'm, I'm, can we talk about her for a minute listening to the podcast? If we must. Is she still listening? Yeah. Is she listening? Is Jana okay? Does she listen to every episode? Oh, she's gone through all of them. No way. Okay. We need to talk about this because I won't let my mom. I told it. I mean, there's been some since I knew she

started listening that I was like, you can maybe skip the post for this one. Wow. I mean, I mean, my mom can definitely listen, but we all know my mom. We know your mom can listen, but I don't want my mom to listen. My brother was listening the other day for the first time. Which one?

Which brother? Which brother? No. Which episode? He was listening in the Chelsea Handler episode. I mean, I see him sitting there listening, and And he goes, he looks to me, he goes, you just said your four-year-old has a long penis. I was like, he does. I mean, these are facts.

Oh, my God. Dying. Oh, my God. That's really funny. I was like, I told you not to listen. It's not for everyone. Wait, can you explain to me? Someone wrote me, DM me on Instagram.

And they're like, I got Olivia when she said, I'm baby Nick. Wait, what is it? What was it that? you said in the Nick Viol episode. Oh, because I started giving advice and it was good. And I said, I'm baby Nick because Nick gives good advice. Yeah, yeah. Okay. I just out of context. I forgot what it was said. Thanks for clearing that up. You do give good advice. She keeps my head on straight. And that's when I said, I'm baby Nick. Did you see that thing where the mom said that her kids were scared of ghosts when they were little? so she would tell them you can get rid of ghosts if you vacuum them up.

So she had the kids always vacuuming the house and tricked them into vacuuming the house because she told them that's how you get rid of ghosts. I feel like that's going to traumatize kids. Do you guys get scared by that stuff? I know we've talked about it a bit. And I know Olivia loves a ghost. Do we get scared by ghosts? Yeah.

I don't. I get terrified. Have you seen any? Well, if I see movies that have ghosts, I'm convinced that I'm going to, I don't know. They scare me very much. So you believe they're real. Ghost are for sure real. But I'm of the mind that they won't actually hurt you.

But I feel like people try to debunk my theory. are you guys believers like let's say you go somewhere like there's a party or whatever and someone just gets into it with you and it's like there are spirits in this house like there's a ghost like I've seen children I've seen the ghosts and they are present with us what kind of parties are you guys going the best kind clearly bangers and okay I just want your opinion on that in general because I feel like that happens and especially maybe more in L.A. But, like, it happens. Like, people will...

I am a believer, so if anyone, like... Can we break this down? Is someone just coming up to you at a party and talking about ghosts? Rob, that's not the point. The point is someone feels the need to, like, express this to you and let you know. And let you know. They're running up to everyone at the party trying to get attention. See, I'm the one at the party that's like, oh, my God, where are they?

You would believe them. 1,000%. Really? Yeah, but I, you know, I guess. get very scared and spooked by that stuff. So I think there's a part of me that liked it. But I feel like, okay, if that was the case, right, you're at a party and someone's like, there's a lot of spirits here, there's a ghost. I saw, you know, children or whatever. No, it wouldn't be as scary if it was at a party there's like a lot of people. Like that's, but like, let's say you went over to someone's house,

like, and you hadn't been to this house before and they're like, give me you a tour of their new house. And like, they're like, listen. And it's just you guys there. And they're like, listen. there are spirits here. I've seen a child ghost. That would freak me the fuck out. So here would be my question then. I'd have a hard time believing it only because if I was in a house and you know I love ghosts, but if I was in a house and I saw like a little girl ghost or something. Those are the scariest kind. Go on. I would move. I would leave. I wouldn't stay in the house and be like, hey guys, come over Friday. Like, the shining. Madison's coming out. You know what I mean?

Like, I think I would try and get out of there. So that's the only thing. Not to say, I have walked in places where you can feel weird feelings. And you're like, ooh, something doesn't feel right here. Or it feels spooky or haunted or weird energy. But I think that's different than like, oh, yeah, I see ghosts and, you know, carry on. Right. My friend David lives in an old apartment, and he claims that he gets woken up at 3 a.m. every single night by a ghost.

Is it 3.33? He says 3 a.m. That's a good ghost if it is. Hold on. That's supposedly the time. I just had this conversation at dinner last night. That it's like witching hour, and there's something at 3.33 in the morning. Like, it's like the magic number with ghosts or paranormal.

shit. Anyway, okay, so your friend wakes up. I'm presuming it's 333. Go on. I mean, that's it. He claims that he gets woken up by this ghost at three. And he's had like a witch come over and like an exorcist and tried to get him to leave and they told him that they wouldn't. When I lived on Addison, that house I lived in, there was definitely something in that house. But it was just a feeling like I didn't see anything. but I would just, when I was sleeping, it's like I felt a presence of something watching me. I know. And it was really uncomfortable. And then someone came over and did my feng shui and like mapped it out whatever.

We saged the place. And she was like, oh, we have to move your bed. And I was like, why? And she's like, because you have your bed on the wall of dead spirits. Like the way you have your bed positioned. is like to call in dead spirits. And I was like, what? And then I called your mom, Rachel.

And my mom was like, it's bullshit. No. She was like, you're going to have to put a bowl of salt. And she was having me do all kinds of stuff. My mom? I couldn't sleep. My mom would never be like, get a bowl of salt and put, she would not. Call her right now.

I'm calling her. She told me to put Eps and salt in the corner of the room. She told you to put what? Epson salt. Okay, we have to, hold on. I have to. I hope she answers. Hi. Hi. Okay. You're being recorded, just so you know. Question. We're talking about ghosts and stuff. Don't worry. Olivia is saying back in the day, she called you because she felt spirits in her room and someone came over and was like the feng shui, like your bed is on the wall of dead spirits or something. And you told... I said this? No, you didn't say it. Oh. Someone came over and told Olivia this. I see.

You told Olivia to put bowls of Epsom salts around her room. I did. Well, I said, I don't think my mom would like, would my, I'm like, I don't think my mom would ever say to do that, but she says you did. Weird. I don't remember that. I mean, I know when you're blessing a house, you put fault in the four corners. But you put them in the corners. I never heard of the Epsons salt thing.

You mean you put actual like salt? Yeah. In the four corners of the room. If you're doing a blessing to a house, you always bring salt and a bell and incense and, you know, things like that. I've done that. I don't think you put salt in the corners when my house was new. Well, you probably didn't have spirits. I mean, it's just, it's a ritual, you know.

Okay. So there's a possibility you told Olivia to put salt in the corners of her room. That's possibility. Okay. I had to clear because I've never. I know you bring stage over and you do the bells and the things, but. Yeah. It's, it's, it's, I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, um, what's folklore, you know, it's, um, a ritual work.

but that's part of the ritual. You always put salt in the fore for this corners of the house. Oh, not in each room. Okay. Thank you. Okay. I appreciate you cleared that up even though I've never, I mean, I was. You never heard about the salt.

I'm not, I mean, it's now that you're saying it, maybe it's a little familiar, but when Olivia said that you told her put a bowl of salt in her room, I was like, what are you talking about? My girl. All right. I love you. Thank you. Goodbye.

I told you. I mean, I couldn't have made that up. No, but I'm like, you know. All right. Salt. But that being said, I think there's people that see ghosts for sure. And I also think there's people that make up that they see ghosts that don't. I think it's coming from like, I don't know, is it like a need to feel special or seen?

I think it depends on the person. And let me tell you something. Depending on who's saying it, I could be like, this person is like annoying and they're just like doing it for attention. And other people are, I'd be like, oh, fuck. You can feel when it's real. 100%. I'm a really good reader of people, though. Like, no matter what they're talking about, who they are, I'm pretty good at what. Nothing.

What? I feel it in my bones, Olivia. Yeah. Yes. Anyway. Why are you laughing, Rob? He thinks I'm not. He's like thinking about my like dating history or something.

You can't use that as a big example. No, I just like you like bragging about how good you are reading people. I am though. I don't care. I'm proud of it. It's like one of my only skills. She's a funny one. You guys, and Girl Scouts, and when we first joined, they're like, you know, asking all the moms, like, what skill can you contribute to, like, you know, teach the girls or whatever?

And I'm like, no, I'm like, I can buy snacks. You guys, and it made me really, like, you're filling out these forms and I'm like, I have no skills. This is so sad. Only, you could have said I can read people. I can read people. I can. That's why I'm okay. saying it because I don't have many skills, but that's one.

You have lots of skills. No, you have so many skills. I mean, I am hilarious. You could, you're a great multitasker. Right. You can really great at painting your toenails while podcasting. I'm really good at snacks. You are excellent at snacks.

Yeah, that's a skill. That's a gift. It is. Well, what kind of skills were they looking for? Like crochet or. I mean, yeah. Like, you know. Teaching the kids.

I'm not good at crafting. I can't sew. Not good of fishing. You know what? I'm good with a fire. Okay. In like, for what purpose? Like putting out a fire?

Like lighting a starter log? Yeah. As I said, I'm really good with the dura flame. No, but if we were camping, I would feel pretty comfortable being responsible for the fire. Wow. Yeah. I have more like, and this is, I don't know if this is sexist,

but I have more like dude-like skills. Okay. You know what I mean? Same. Same. But you know, like the fire. I get it. I would never man the fire.

Right. I could man the fire. I mean, I could grill the hot dogs and toast the smores. Yeah, and I could... And tell ghost stories, for sure. But no manning the fire. I could man the fire. All right. Love you guys. Love to Emily.

Thanks for listening, everybody. If you need a fire, I'm your girl. Yeah, text Rachel. Yeah. And freeze because you ain't getting no fire. Yeah. And you'll be cold. That was a headgum podcast. Thank you.