Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - Lauren Lapkus on Finding Meaning in Lyrics

Episode Date: March 24, 2025

Rachel and Olivia talk to actress and podcaster Lauren Lapkus! They discuss watching Disney movies with your kids, weird dreams, their childhood crushes on boy bands and some self care!Check out Lauren’s hilarious podcasts Threedom and Newcomers. Watch the video of this episode here!Like the show? Rate Broad Ideas 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts and SpotifyAdvertise on Broad Ideas via Gumball.fm See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Yeah. Me too. I, that was a really good time. Good time. She's the best. How long have you known her? I think 10 years now. I worked at a podcast network called Earwolf as a comedy network.

And she had some shows there. And I got to go on like a 20, Five City tour for the show Comedy Bang Bang. And she was on the whole tour. And so we just got to hang out and stuff and chat. And she's extremely nice and super, super funny. And so when we were talking about funny people on the show, I was like, we got to reach out to Lauren. Awesome.

Yeah, it was a blast. So happy that you did. And we did. Let's just talk to Warren. Let's just do it. I just started recording everything. Cool. We love it when you do that. When you, when you, oh, I thought you meant when you record.

Yeah, I did. Yeah, we just, oh, I love record. We love it. I love it. It's so hot. Speaking of hot. Yeah. Muck pinging. Okay, so I don't, so is it like just on camera you're eating a ton of food at once? Is that like what it is? I wish I had like a wealth of knowledge on the subject. That's what it is. Okay. It sounds really pornographic like the name. Yeah. It's 100%. Yeah. Like, there's like 10 dudes gang banging a chicken wings is what it sounds like. I mean, that's what it is. Yeah. Yeah. But then there's like, there's like, there's like low key versions. Yeah. And we were talking about this the other night at dinner. What's Alex Cooper, right? Yeah. She'll do videos where she's like, okay, I'm going to try these things. And then she'll like try a sandwich and dip it in a sauce and like eat it. And she'll be like, oh.

fucking yes. Yes. And as I'm watching it, I'm like, fucking yes. Wow. Not only do I want to taste it, but I want to feel like that. Yeah. So I'm super into videos of people eating things because they'll like take a cinnamon roll. I want you to do an experiment, okay? And Lauren, feel free to do this experiment too. But I want you guys to record, or whoever wants to, record yourself eating things and posting it. And I want, she, the other day, she posted a crunch rap supreme she made at home, okay? Okay. Because of Alex Super made it and ate it on camera and I was like, I have to have that. Okay. Did you, did you eat it or no, you just posted it?

But I mean, did you eat it on camera? No, that's what I'm saying. People want the satisfaction of the crunch, I guess, because it's like a crunch rap. Yeah, the crunch. Wait, what is the name of that thing where people hate when you eat? Oh, yeah, that's a thing. Yeah, yeah. You know, something. Misophonia?

Yes. They, that's the common I always get when I eat on Mike and people are like, I have misophonia and stop doing that. And I'm just like, I have to have a snack. I don't know what to tell you. Like it's a banana. There's a world that wants, they want the content. I guess maybe if they see it with the sound, it's less disturbing than just hearing it out of context.

I also think it depends on who it is and how they're enjoying it. Yeah. You know, like you take someone like her and she's an attractive gal eating a hot, gooey cinnamon roll. I'm turned on. I mean, I need to turn it. You're kind of like, mm-hmm. Yeah. Say more.

Yeah, yeah. But will you do that, though? Will you do a video of you eating and talking about? talking about it. Hold on a Patreon and startup business. The only fan. She's so passionate about what she eats when it's something she likes or something good. I feel like I really, thank you.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you please just do an experiment? One. I'm not doing it alone. Post one. Okay, or you did together to like promote the show or something. And then post it and see what happens. Let's do it.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But you have to like, you can't fuck around. You can't just be like, this is good. You have to really give it. Really feel it. You have to be your authentic self. I really do feel it. Then I think it should be natural.

So I like it when other people tell me what's going on with them too. Like if I were to make you a crunch rap supreme, I don't want to just watch. I want you to make eye contact with me. This is really good. Yeah. Yeah. Like how good. Is it because you, do you love cooking?

No. I love eating. Okay, great. Well, so you just want me to like it as much as you. Or if I said like, this is. isn't good? Like, what would that do for you? It's my husband. And it's deeply devastating every meal.

I'm like, what do you think? And he's like, it's fine. I'm like, it's not fine. You don't like get life. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Like, I want your passion really lies. I know. Yeah. I want you to experience the joy I'm experiencing. Mm-hmm. And I want to watch it happen. That seems really like a very genuine desire. Like, it feels like you really care about others. And it seems nice.

It does seem nice. I feel like I might be the same. though and being like this is good like and then you'd be like oh you can't go to lunch together like if it's like a dessert or something like I feel like it's like I like chocolate like yeah like a nice like okay for me you want me to describe it like yes like actually what would make me really happy is like a cold stone creamery like chocolate I just with the peanut butter cups like smushed in and then I'm like oh it's so cold stone it's so interesting that you like it's like I know I know and I never have that. But it's like, she's like, I've never been having to know what it is. But no, I used to always love getting that. And then it's one of those things that's like a special treat. Like if I see a

cold stone, I'm like, we have to get that. Like, but you don't see those that often. They're not really around anymore. Yeah. They're in my hometown still. So when I go home, I'm like, where's hometown? Evanston, Illinois. It's right out to Chicago. Yeah. But yeah. So they have a cold stone there. And actually last time I was home, my friend and I were like, we have to go get coldstone after we like went to dinner. And then we looked it up. I'm like, it's open for like 20 more minutes. We drove over so fast. And then they were already closed. And it was not time yet. Oh my god. And I was like, I know you're like a college student who like wants to go to bed or something like go to a party. But like I was expecting this store to be up until nine. Yeah. I will pay you. Yeah. And it was close. And that was it. Yeah. Over. Then we went to Killwinds, which is like a fudge shop that also has ice cream. Not the same though. No. And they were closed. Oh, and they were closed. Even though the time said they were open online too. So everyone was just doing whatever they want. There's something going on. Yeah. The online hours. Yeah. A little update. It was really disappointing. There is one in Sherman Oaks, Coldstone. Is it. Is it something? Is it.

Still there? I think so. It's under laser tag. Yeah. It's under laser tag. That sounds like from the 90s though. Yeah. That's my cold zone is still there.

Yeah. I have laser tags still? That's like really fun. It's so fun. I just went. You did? Don't ask you. Like alone.

You just wet. Yeah. She was like, I feel like I just went. Myself. It's just like life is boring. Yeah. No, it was for a birthday party. That's cute.

It was her birthday party. Yeah. I didn't invite you. Yeah. I didn't know about it. I haven't done laser tag in about. Actually, I would say, oh, it's still probably 20 years. Yeah. I don't think I've ever done laser tag. Oh, really? It's so much fun. Maybe once. It's really fun. It's really fun. I'm down. Because you get to like be comfortable. You know what I'm not talking? Have you guys ever? Oh, I don't know. No, that's painful. That sounds like just a no. Yeah. I think people get like bruises. Bruises. Yeah. I'm not down on the bruise. No, we're not going to do that. I just remember though the last time I did laser tag. So I was college and all my friends, we all did illicit drugs and then we were going to go to

laser tag. But we all got too messed up and it was like actually really scary. Oh my God. Yeah, it's like dark. It was like really scary. It was only us there. And then we were in there and were like it was just. Panic is terrifying. Yeah. No, I'm having one. It was a bad time. Thinking about that. Circumstance. Awful. Yeah. And the night ended with watching Lion King and just being like, yay. I don't think I just My son watches it every day right now Really?

Every day? Okay so you're in that one It's actually kind of dark and sad Oh no, I have to skip No my daughter watches it too You have to skip like Oh no Dude if you don't pay attention

Dad die Well yeah And if you don't pay attention And it starts happening And you can don't start skipping It fast enough Yeah It's happened where then I'll look at her

And she's like Oh no Oh no It's dangerous A lot of those movies though Oh father Nemo is like so sad at the beginning and it's just, you have to like skip everything and just like cut to like the middle and. But then there's the parents that are like, you're going to fucking watch this shit. And you're going to like.

Okay. So you're like, there's no skipping. There's. Yeah. But my kids are like neutral about it. My son will come up and be like his dad died. And I'm like I know that's sad. Hold on. He's like, yeah, real sad. How old is he? When he was two, die hard was his favorite movie. So I mean, in context. I like your like no filter. No filter. No filter. My daughter's like no. never seen most of the Disney movies just because she, and she's named after a Disney princess. Yeah. It's fine. She's so sensitive, but she would say, like, I don't like bad guys. I don't want to see it.

Yeah, okay. And she would get upset and I'm like, okay, cool. You know, like, I don't need to subject you to. My daughter likes bad guys. She likes night before Christmas. That's like when we watched a million times. And Frankenweeney, which I feel like is kind of under the radar, but also a sad one because the dog dies.

What? Someone always dies. Frankenweeney dies, but that's how he becomes Frankenweene. He's like a corpse put together. Sure. But he has to die. But he has to die. And it's really a sad part. Animals are harder than animals.

But here's my question. Is it for me? Isn't death part of life? Like, to me, I'm just like, yeah, they died. Yeah. But that's like, whoa. But to them, it's not. Yeah.

It's like at first it is. They don't realize it forever, I think. Well, oh. I know, but in my experience, it's kind of, kind of like they're dead, but they don't really understand. Well, with the movies, you can watch it over and over, so it's sort of like not permanent in that way. Well, it is confusing because Jeff's mom, my husband's mom died.

And my little one will say his mom, oh, no, we'll be like, she died. And he'll be like, no, she didn't. I saw her on daddy's phone walking and I was like, oh, wait, I have to cry a lot now. Yeah. That's really sad. That's like so heart. heartbreaking. It's like the most heartbreaking and I couldn't be laughing harder. Oh no. I know. No, because that's really real. Yeah, that's so hard. It's so it's so hard to understand. Like, no. I know. I think

someone like really close to them passes, you know, and then they can really understand because it's someone if you're used to seeing all the time or whatever. It's a different thing then. Yeah, but even with, I mean, no, but even with Mufasa, it's like, it's too intense. I, I, we're skipping for as long as possible. But yeah, she's caught a lot of the bad parts. I mean, it just happens because you start doing something else and then, you forget. Yeah. But yeah. You forget. There's some dark shit. Yeah. Every single one. But that's the thing. It's like we watched Beauty and the Beast. That's like actually kind of creepy when he becomes first of the Beast is pretty mean. And then like, he's really mean. He's kind of hot. He's kind of hot. Yeah. He's like like a weird guy and you're like

he was better as the Beast. Yeah. You're like I found myself attracted to this beast. Now you're Like, I did not have worked like. Now you're average. Now you're mid. You were like very unique. Yeah. You were like very unique. Yeah.

Kind of seen this. But at the end, like, yeah, we were watching that and he turns back into the person. I'm like, I sometimes narrate to like make it like I try to like give the impression like what she should be. I'm like, that's so wonderful. And now they can be together or something. I try to like make it make sense. I don't know because it's creepy. He like, he's flying in the air.

And like the way his body is positioned as he's flying in the air is also very. Yeah, and then his paw becomes a foot. It's just like, it's a little like, how do you, I know. And then what's the message? Because he doesn't really treat her that well. The message, yeah, the message is like, yeah, what is the message? Oh, like, he's mean to me.

I love him. But don't judge a book by its cover. That's why I'm so fucked up. I watched that so much. She was the first brunette. Like, hello. She was the first brunette. Yeah, she was.

She was my princess. Yeah. But all of those movies give you that feeling as a kid, like that that's a good relationship where I have a theory. I have a theory, you guys, that I have spoken about. Have you ever seen Seven Brides for Seven Brothers? No. Okay, it's an old musical.

Basically, the premise is these women get kidnapped by these mountain men, taken up there to become their wives and bear children. But they're kidnapped, taken away from their homes, even their boyfriends, their families. And, of course, they wind up falling in love with the mountain men. Yeah. So I'm like, oh, my God. I just need to get kidnapped. Don't say that, Rachel.

Oh, no, don't kidnap me. Oh, God. Oh, no. That wouldn't be good. No, that would not fly now. I mean, I don't know, a mountain man farm, maybe. Okay, if it's going to be that exact scenario. That exact scenario with those men and they sing and they are dancing on the wooden logs and they're doing it so well.

I mean, I'm not mad at that. Do they, when they abduct the women, are they, is it seven sisters and seven brothers? It's seven brothers and seven brides. Oh, so this women from different families. They're all different families from the little town and they all, one's the main woman, you know, and they all follow Millie. Okay. I love the name Millie. I almost named my daughter, Millie.

Isn't it? It is a cute name. But yeah, it just explains why we're so fucked up. No, beauty and the beast. All of those movies are like that. Like, it's, yeah, the guys are terrible. I mean, I don't know. Even Gaston is like kind of hot.

Yeah, but look who we had to choose. Because she can't talk the whole time. And he's like, she's beautiful. I. Yeah. Oh, my God, you're right. She can't talk. I love her.

I just spit. I got excited. Yeah. And then the evil one gets him. And then I was kind of like, she's hotter than Ariel. And that's confusing. for my brain because I'm like, I guess I should be the evil one.

I wish I looked like her, you know? Oh my God. When Ursula becomes like the hot bride. Yeah. This is my favorite to dissect the Disney prince and how it just impacted all of us. No, there's a lot there. There's so much there. That's also messed up that she lives in the house with, she's like asleep.

Seven dudes. Yeah. She's asleep. Yeah. Isn't she like in a bed? Yeah. She's like in a coma. She has to get kissed awake, but so does sleeping beauty.

Yeah. Right. There's a lot of like, we're going to put you to. sleep. Yes. But a man is going to save you. You know what's really cute though? Tangled. Did you ever watch Love Tangles? That's so cute and it's like I love the like messed up mother daughter dynamic. I feel like that's written very well and it's like a fun play on all of those. That kind of fixed things for me with a lot of that's when it happened. Yeah.

Yeah. Tangle is more recently. So I'm like oh. Well it's a more modern right? Because if you compare these older ones to the newer ones, it's very cute. They got their shit together. Is there no love love story in Moana? Moana. Yeah, she doesn't end up with Maui. Spoiler alert I know, I was like hoping the whole time Oh my god So is he He was like

It's gonna happen I'm a shape shifter Don't worry about this Oh my god I know that one way too well I love the heart of Teffiti This is like this is a too Yeah

I mean I don't know what I'm talking about No pain no we are in it. Okay. There's like a heart of taffidi from this company super small that's like makes these cute little girl things that are like

just toys or whatever. But they made the heart of tefeiti and it's like a very like legit version it's like 50 bucks and you're like it's an investment and it has like the heart of tefeity inside and it glows and it's like a magnet and it was like the most prized possession

and we lost the heart of tefeiti which I think happens probably instantly for everyone we had it for like a year. Wow. And then it went missing and we have been talking about it for so long that my husband just bought another one. Yeah.

But the quality went down. I don't know why I started to do it. Is it your company? Yeah, it's not my company. But I will say, if you could just bring back the $50 version, they made it $30, but the quality is less substantial. So I just have to say. Garbage. Yeah.

There's a distinct difference. But now we have it back. So we're all happy again. But I'm waiting for it to turn up in my house. It's been like a huge thing. The real one. The $50 one. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I need that. Before we go off this topic, I just have one more princess. same before we leave. We're done here.

Yeah. Happened quick. I need to bring up Mulan. Yeah. Because I feel like she is a good message for little girls.

I think so too. That one seems more about like just being a strong person. Strong woman. And yes, there's a hot, you know, soldier guy and there's like, and she thinks she's a, she goes to war.

Yeah. She pretends to be a man so she can fight. Oh my God. I feel like I haven't paid enough attention. I didn't. I didn't. I've never seen it. I've never seen it. I don't think so. I saw it once like a long long time ago and then I've heard it playing in my home. But that's Yeah, I know. That's the time we're like, this is my time. I'm not actually watching. There's going to be. I know. But anyways, if you ever pay attention, pay attention to the one.

Yeah, yeah. Okay. If you ever do. I really, you know, I pay a lot of attention. I just, every once in a while you got to tap out. I have a question. I have a question that I've decided I want to ask people now. Oh, all the time. So we were talking the other day. And, you know, I had a therapist say, like, you always, you know, you survive, you can survive anything. And the fact that you just keep going back in the ring to do it over again is amazing, right? Yeah. So I keep asking everyone. She's very, you know what she's doing?

She's paying attention. I am. Yeah. When you hear this, when you hear back in the ring, where do you picture yourself? Whoa, like a boxing ring. Thank you. 100% answer boxing ring.

For me, I can't wait to hear what you thought. I visualize myself in a gladiator arena. Oh. No, it's everyone, I asked my mom this morning, she goes a boxing ring. Every single person says a boxing ring and I'm like, oh my God, I'm so fucked up. No, I think you're like an old soul. Okay. I like connecting with like that better.

I'm not like fighting to the death. I like that much better. But oh, because you're seeing it like it's so serious. So intense. someone's going to die. Oh, that's how you're interpreting it. That's important.

Well, I didn't interpret it until Mel Robbins interpreted it. Oh, okay. I just got into her from our queen Mel. Okay. Are you, Super Ann? I only have listened to this Oprah episode where it was all about let them. Yeah, that's her theory. Okay, yeah, yeah.

But we just talked to her and she pointed that out and was like, oh my God, not everybody's picturing a fucking gladie. Did you picture a boxing ring, Kevin? Yes, I did. But Kevin's normal. Well, because I think that's the analogy. Do you know what I mean? Like they think that's, they're saying like,

you're going to go fight again. You're going to go fight again. No, totally. I get it. I understand. Yeah. Do you feel like when Mel said that to you, do you feel like you were like, oh, all my battles are so intense? Like, did it connect for you?

Like, the way that you perceive. I fight to the death every single day in my life. Fuck yeah. She's about it. She's like, fucking yes. Yeah. You're like an aeroon being like, get the fuck out of my life. Yeah.

I need that you kind of have to do. Why are they $20? I don't have you tried it? No, I'm curious, but I want someone else to buy it. Right? I'm not going to pay me. So curious. You're like, what the fuck is that?

I also haven't had the fucking smoothie. You've never had any of them? No, and I went the Haley Bieber one and I ordered it during the fires when I was escaping and I was like. You're like, I'm out of here? I thought, now I can have this treat because I'm safe and I, then the guy drank it. He didn't come. It was on my bill and I think the postmate took it, which I felt like you should.

just have it. It's fine. But I was sad because I thought it was going to be the moment that I finally tried it. That was the moment you chose like shit's going down. I was like now I need to relax and have this thing that I've thought about. Yeah. And it didn't happen. It's really good. Yeah. It is really good. It is very, very good. The problem with like getting addicted to that kind of thing is like that I'm buying like a $20 smoothie regularly, which feels wrong. Right. Right. It's for sure. Well, it's also you don't, you don't, you really don't want to get addicted to the amount of sugar in it either. Oh, thank you. I never think about that with smoothies. All right.

I keep it. Oh, no. You close your eyes and drink it. It might feel a little bit like heaven for a second. It is very good. It gives you that feeling. I refuse for a long time to tell my daughter what it was called. Yeah.

And I'd be like, we're getting the strawberry smoothie. I didn't. I don't know. It's just like, it feels very, you know, L.A. I like to be very anti. Even though I'm from here, I get like, whatever. Yeah. Like, you don't need to know that it's like a Haley Bieber smoothie.

Right. You know? Oh, because you're not trying to promote. She knows who just. I mean, she does. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's like that makes it different. It's like a Bieber smoothie. Right. Yeah. Yeah. And then it's like I want the Bieber smoothie. Right. Yeah. I don't know. I agree with you. Thank you. Yeah. I think there's something weird about like I'm not from here. So like raising my kids here is a thing that I have to kind of adjust to sometimes and things like that. I'm like I don't know what I don't think that's good. Right. For a child. Right. Like I don't know. But I'm like it's also fine. Whatever. But like I also think I say this every time I talk about kid. things on a podcast. I'm like, everything everyone does is fine. Yeah, I know. And this is my opinion. And so everything you do is great. And this is what I think. But with like, yeah, the LA like culture that like, you know, is perceived like the sort of Hollywood culture. I find that

sort of like, I just don't think that I want my kids to be aware of that at all for as long as possible. And then at a certain point, they just naturally will be. They naturally will be. Sure. Yeah. That's kind of. You can't protect them from the Haley Bieber smoothie. It's making it's way. It's undeniable. And I love Haley Bieber. No, it's like, it's just a It's just an example of like how that is infiltrated everything. Yeah. But here's my question on that. I do want to argue on it just for a second.

Sure. She loves to argue. I'm glad. I do. Well, that's why we're here. We're here. It's perfect. Yeah.

Yeah. But isn't Haley Bieber also someone who promotes kind of this like health and wellness and it's part of what she's. Yeah. Like what is wrong with that? Is that her space though? she's definitely in that space as far as like i'm asking genuinely like i don't she's she's she's definitely makeup yeah and she's got like i think she had her podcast where she interviews people and she like

oh yeah but that's the so they a kid needs to be aware of that like i feel like my i think that's all great and like that's totally fine but even with like actors i mean i'm an actor so she's gonna understand and learn about that and she's seen me and things and i think that's confusing too but like right so i'm just trying to even figure out how I'm going to navigate that. But, like, as a kid, I don't think I was aware that, like, the people in commercials were, like, actors until I was, like, a teenager. I don't think I thought about it at all.

And, like, in all the movies that we watch, every voice is, like, a famous person. But, like, she doesn't need to know that, like, that's Katie Perry doing the voice or something. Like, I feel like that, like, takes you out of the thing. And then, to me, that extends to, like, that where it's, like, well, I'm in a grocery store. I don't need to be influenced by a person. I just want to pick the flavor that I like or something. So it feels like, I don't know.

Yeah. Well, I think it's probably, is there something to it with the merit? Like if it was Wheaties and, you know. Yeah, yeah. Well, no. You're right. That's been, when we were kids, that was a little. You want to be like Mike.

And you're right. Yeah. I feel like that just goes right into your brain and you don't even process it, totally. Right. Yeah. He's on the cover of Wheaties. No, I'm like, he's the great. Yeah, he's awesome.

I want the weed box. But he also was like the greatest. That's what I'm saying. So it's merit. He was the good. Yeah. It's based on. Mary. Yeah. You're like, well. No, no, no, but you have a point. If it was an Oprah smoothie,

how would you feel? I want it now. Oh, yeah. You know what I mean? Like immediately. You'd be like, why I don't want the Haley B. It's $50. Oh my God. I went to see Oprah on tour. Wow. Right before the pandemic. It was literally like February 29th. That's maybe not a date. That is a date. Maybe it was leapier. Every year. I don't know if it was sleepier. Oh, no, not a year. Yeah. Okay. I get confused about that. But I went to see her and I was so excited. I was like the nose bleeds at like the whatever, not staples, whatever that arena is. Oh, it's like another one now. I don't know where I was. It was far. And it was so exciting. It was the one where she fell. Do you know about this? No. What? It was so crazy. She like, she like fell and she handled it so amazingly.

And then she kept doing the whole show. It was like Oprah, peak Oprah like. Just Oprah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. She like did was not phased. We were all like, oh my God. Like the whole audience would save her. You know, it was like thousands of people that would like run down and help her. But she just like got up. And then her ankle was definitely busted. And then she was. kept doing the show. And it was so fun. The show was so great. The whole theme was the joy of missing out instead of FOMO. It was like Joma. Joma. Actually, my water bottle. I covered it with sticker, but it said Jomo on it. Yeah, yeah. We didn't have weaves that in. I know. I want to plug my water bottle. But then literally it was all about like the joy of not going to things like saying no, like just protecting your

peace. And then the pandemic happened like four days later. We all couldn't do anything forever. It became immediately so ironic that we were all like in a close. space with like thousands of people celebrating not going anywhere. That's weird. Wow. It was so weird. But I love Oprah so much. I would literally like me too.

I mean anything for open. She's like the queen of all queen. She's amazing. Yeah. So yeah. All like it. So if Oprah said it then I would buy it and yeah. That's what I'm saying.

Yeah. So it's just an interesting topic. Right. I guess it's because it is more of that culture of like the younger Hollywood, like whatever it is and for some reason for me to have my daughter. Well, You don't even know. You are in that, though.

I mean, I feel like your perspective is important. Like, that's your experience being, like, a younger actor. Maybe. Maybe it has something to do with that. Or, like, you said, like, she knows what I do, you know, and has seen it or whatever. So maybe there's more of a protection around it just because. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't know. It's just interesting. Yeah. It's, I mean, navigating that as a parent in the industry is, I'm sure it's like there's a lot to. I think it's not different with a girl. That makes sense. Yeah. With my boys, I would be like it's a parent.

Billy Bieber smoothie. Who cares? Right. But I'm not protecting them from anything. Yeah. Right. You know, I'm not like, oh, no. If they start idolizing this person, they're going to want the makeup and they're going to want this and they're going to grow up too fast. So it's almost like you trying to preserve her youth. Yeah. Innocence. Yes. For sure. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. When they see like, yeah, that lip or whatever. And they're like, oh, well, I need that. And it's like, no, you're 10. I know. I'm not saying she does. But no, but I've heard that like a lot of young. and girls are like on Tim Talk and obsessed with skin care. And like anti-aging products. So then now there's like some new law. I don't know what it was.

But they can't buy like anti-aging things or something. Yeah. Yeah. Which thank goodness. Like you should don't need that at all. It's a whole phenomenon. These kids are watching the thing about about wrinkles and all this. skincare. And they watch these YouTube videos, these people and it's all about that. My daughter's nowhere near that. Doesn't even know about it. But it's there. Even kids in her grade now are like, I need skin care. Yeah. But I mean a little bit I'm like jealous because I feel like as a kid you're like dang you're ahead of it. You don't have no wrinkles ever

to but like as a kid like I feel like my generation was like screwed from like you had to have like a like really bad hair really bad skin like all the things you go through you know and now they're all skipping that part and they all look cute the whole time and I'm like what the fuck

what you get to be cute for like all of middle school like this is crazy that was for the elite few like most of us didn't get that opportunity but now they all have TikTok and they can see how to do their hair Sea Breeze toner? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. A hundred percent. I wonder what that was. Oh my God. Do we were that mint julep mask that would get like really hard on your face? Oh, I remember those. Yeah. I like that.

We did put some fucked up shit on our skin. And the Noxema. I feel like those pads. Oh, the Noxema pads. That's like what Seabreys was. And it was just like alcohol. Just like stripping your face. At least like now there's like organic stuff that the girls are putting on.

Yeah. But they shouldn't have to be looking at that. I know. And like anti. aging, like such a toxic message. Toxic. Also, it's so creepy to see people online, whether it's TikTok, Instagram, and you see them and you're like, are they making them different?

Like, their bodies look different. They all look like a bunch of models. And then you're like, no, they're tweaking their pictures, this, another, and you see them. And they just look like regular kids. Oh. And I'm like that. Wait, like kids using filters? Like teenage girls.

Oh, that's so dark. So you see them on these things, right? And you're just like, why do they look AI? No, that would give me such a complex. Like, I think like when I remember like in middle school, I feel like I spent most of my time like in the mirror being like, what's different? What's what?

And then you start like, you're just like learning your face. Like if I was able to look at everyone I know all the time on my phone and then everyone that I don't know and then compare myself, it's just like that's or like, I mean, I feel so scared for social media with kids where like you post like a picture and people are mean or something. I mean, we got, we got bullied on. AOL. Like, I mean, people were doing shit on there. Yeah. What about the deep fakes? I mean, that's just scary. All of it is just. No, I know somebody who had like a deep fake made of them. That was like,

it was like a video of her talking. And like, yeah, it's so weird. It's just so fucked up. No, it's really not right. That should be illegal. That's why we need mountain men to kidnap us and bring them to the farm. Everything would be better. Right? Yeah, I think you have a point. No, it would be safe, you know. Yeah. Yeah. There's our deep fakes. Those are deep fakes. Those are deep things. Those are Be fake. I'm scared. Okay. Well, I'm worried about our safety.

Do you know what I mean? No, they're fine. Just do it. They'll fall in love with them. Like, it's going to happen. Just do it. I know, it's fine. I think it already happened to me.

I've already kidnapped. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're kidnapped. Yeah. Does that mean married? Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. You guys, I had the one. worst dream last night. It was so bad. You know when you have those dreams and you wake up mad at them? Yeah. He said he went out with eight different women in one week. And I said, did you sleep with them? He said all of them. Oh my gosh. I woke up like, fuck you. Yeah. Yeah. And some of them I looked at and I was like, they look young. And he's like, they're 18. Oh, no. Oh, no. Yeah. A lot of details. I know. So specific. I know. You guys are getting a glimmy.

into the nut job. But do you ever have those dreams and you wake up mad at your partner? Can I say something you're going to get so mad at me for saying? No. Like, do you just don't say it? You know like the pet peeve though when people like, it's not this now. But when they're like, I had this dream last night and you go into like a really long detailed dream and you're like this didn't even fucking happen.

Yeah. It's like the perfect storm movie where like you watch the whole movie and they all die so you don't even know if it actually happened. That same feeling of like I just sat through this. Yeah. And it's not fucking real. Yeah. No, I was going to go on.

That's the dream. Yeah. Yeah. That was it. He just cheated on me. No, that's awful. No, I definitely had that. Or like where like something happens in the dream that feels so real that you wake up like, or if you like have sex with someone in a dream and they don't have a crush on them now or something.

John Goodman. Whoa. I was not expecting that. She's just like. Wow. That was good. Thank you. It's real.

It's real. No, I know. That's why it's so great. I had a dream of the night that I, this is so weird. This is so weird. But I was for some, I don't know what the positioning was. It wasn't sexual, but there was some situation where my foot was going into Nick Lechay's abs.

It was very slow. And I, but it wasn't sexual. I want to reiterate. And it was, there was other stuff happening. It was just the positioning of something. And that's why it was happening. And I was like, whoa, he has amazing abs. That's the best sense.

I didn't see that thing either. I don't know why. happen and his abs are amazing and I just have to assume that's what they're really like. Oh my God. It's because you're watching. My heel. I watched a clip about it on Instagram. I haven't watched the season, but I've seen every other season, but you need to watch the season. Yeah. It was so odd. I don't know. I always tend to say his real name. Yeah. No, you had to. Yeah. The story is yeah. It's nothing without it. Yeah. I can't just say a member of 98 degrees. That is like we need to get specific. Yeah.

No, that's even better. Yeah, if you pick whichever one you want it to be. Dealers choice. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's up to you. Oh, my God. Oh, that was good. I'm impressed with you having that in your memory bank 98 degrees.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Specifics are so key. I know that story. Comedic, anything. Their music. Yeah. I know their music.

I know their music. It was formative. I couldn't name one song. Okay, wait, hold on. Did they sing, God must have spent a little more time on you, on you, on you. Is that them or is that going to be in sync or something? No, it's not in place. Kevin, are you Googling?

What's it called? God must have spent a little more time on you. It's the exact lyrics I just said. Yeah, you're like, it's literally. Excuse me. Oh, my God. And I said, no, it's not. Okay, hold on.

Let's find 90 degrees. Hold on, I know it. Go in the use is real. I can't. The pressure is so real. Give me a hint. I do cherish you. I do cherish you for the rest of my day.

I don't know. No, but we had the beginning. We did. Yeah. I think we're there. Yeah, that's it. True fan. All you need to know.

Kevin, you're good. The hardest thing? No. My everything. Stop. Cut this out. Make it stop. Make it stop.

Like no. Cut this part. Oh my God. Have you seen on Instagram people posting like, I saw this girl and she had a picture. It was like a Sears photo op and she's like full on dress, hair, everything. And she's like, when I looked like this, I thought I could land Joey from NKOTB. No. Oh, oh, no.

We went back back. Joey lost his last name. Yeah. See the specimens? No, no. Yeah. What's his name? You still had NKOTB.

Joey. McIntyre. Thank you. And it was incredible. Wow. Because it was a real look. When you're like a little kid and you're like, oh yeah. No.

And I'm like, I need to find. If they see me in the cad, it's over. Yeah. When I look like this, you're like 11 and you're like, this is the song I was listening to. Like, let me lick you up and down. Oh my God. I know. You know.

School dances. Oh. So so horny and disgusting. And you're like. Not that anyone was dancing with me, but I was aware of the songs playing. Yeah. I could hear. And I knew what was happening.

Wait. You nailed it. if they saw me in a crowd. That was the fantasy. Who was your person? I had so many, you know, I feel like any concert I went to, I was like, now it's on. Like, I don't know. Like, you know what I mean?

They're going to see me. Yeah, yeah. I remember it about Ben Queller when I was in college and I was like, and I talked to this, there's probably some weird ass guy in the audience, but he was like, I'm his uncle. And I was like, I love your nephew or whatever. But he's probably some guy looking back. Like what? It's just some old.

Oh, yeah. But in the moment, you're like, yeah. And I was like, oh, my God. You know what I mean? Like it was really his uncle? Like, I don't know. I mean, maybe it was. And he was also your first kidnapper.

But no, yeah, John Mayer, I was, I thought I'd marry John Mayer when I was in high school. Oh, yeah. That's plausible. Right. Did you think they'd see you in the crowd and be like, not only do I love her, but she's the star of my next music video? Oh, I mean, well, that doesn't necessarily line up, does it? I mean, it's like if you want to marry them. Oh, I guess Chrissy Teigen did it.

Yeah. Yeah. What? Yeah. She was in a John Legend video. That's what they met? I think so, wasn't it? Maybe.

I don't know. But then like the Guns and Rose's video. Well, maybe he put his wife in the video. Okay, then maybe that was after. That's not how they met. The guns and was she in somebody else's video? Or was it? Stephanie Seam.

Yeah. Right? Or Robin Sick who married his wife from music video. One of these happened. I don't know. There was a lot of crossover. I don't know how they met. Tell me.

Chrissy and John met on the set of John's music video stereo. Oh my God. See? I do know something. So I can't keep. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Oh, that would be amazing. Right? Yeah. John Mayer's music came out when I was like in a freshman high school or something. We were all like, or like maybe I was a senior. We were all like this is everything. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. He does sing one of my favorite songs to this day. Which one? Which one? The train one. Stop this train. Oh, I don't know if I even know that one.

I don't know because I automatically go to like the reggae one. Can you please listen to it? Now that you're a mom, you have to listen to it. Makes me cry. Is it about time passing? Yes. Every single time I listen that song, I cry. No.

I think it's one of the best songs ever. I'm sure it is. Anything like that, like the Mama Mia song. What's about? Slipping through my fingers on the time. It's like all about growing up. Growing up is sad. In high school, the banger was butterfly kisses.

Anyone remember that one? I do remember that. I think that's like a father-daughter dance at weddings. It was a father-daughter song. It's like, butterfly kisses. Yes. Oh, stop. Ribbons all up in her.

I have chills, but I... It's not because of the song. It's the flu. You know, that's something that was like, that's my... It's a country song. It was like, I'm going to get it wrong, but it was like, something by the water,

that's my daughter, that's my daughter. It was like, but it's some like wedding song like that. And it's like, it'll get me. Even though it's like not my genre at all, I'm like, whoa, yeah. Everyone feels this. Yeah. There's a really good one else. It's not that old.

Buy dirt. By dirt? By dirt. That's the song for like the wedding? No. The band is called dirt? It's about kidnapping. Okay, we'll relate to it.

Yeah. No, it's called by dirt. And he's like, watch the grass grow and the pencil marks on the things all grow up. I can't. It's so good. I don't understand that by dirt. It's like it's not about all the things out there. He's like, buy dirt, put something you can put a fence around.

Like purchase. Oh, buy dirt. Buy dirt. By dirt. By dirt. By dirt. No, buy dirt. Put a fence around the thing you love.

I got it now. I needed to see the word. Understand what the fuck you're talking about. It's so emotional. I can't handle that. The pencil lines growing. Stop. The pencil lines in the grass all grow up.

Stop it. Dead. Gonna be done. We're moms. Yeah, you guys. No, we're going to be dead. I can't. She said, I'm going to cry a lot and I'm going to be dead now.

Yeah, yeah. I honestly can't take it. It's too much. The growing up is too much. It's too much. I had a change in perspective recently and I shared this with her. Because I keep being like, my daughter's not little anymore. And it's like the pain you feel to not, you know, as they're not little or babies.

And then this family, the family, the bucketless family, you know, they like packed up and like travel the world. There's like the most beautiful children. I don't know. It's just like a. Instagram YouTube thing? Yeah, I think so. I think they like packed up and decided to whatever. The bucket of his family. Yeah. And they posted, they were like, our daughter's 10. She's growing up. Oh my God. We're so sad. And these people wrote in. And they said, at least you can watch your child grow up because they had lost theirs. And I was like, oh my God. I have to go. I'm going to go buy myself in dirt.

That's really. You have to go buy dirt. That's really. No, no. I don't know. I don't. I don't know. I No, I know. I feel very, very aware of that. I wasn't, though. Like, I never had that thought. Like, you know, you have the morbid thoughts. But, like, to put that in that perspective, you're like, I get to watch you grow up. So it helped me. Because I had a really hard time of letting go of, like, the little person. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, oh. No, it's beautiful. Yeah. Yeah. I think, like, I'm in these, like, Facebook mom groups and stuff. So I only use Facebook to go in these groups. Mm-hmm. And, but Facebook has this new algorithm. Because I'm, I don't know. I don't use it. I don't have, like, really friends on there.

So, like, I don't know what. They're just showing me, like, and I don't mean friends. So they're just showing me like, confession. They're just showing me, like, random things. And sometimes it'll be stuff that's, like, really upsetting like that. Right. And then I'm just, like, that's the most devastating thing I've ever seen. I've ever seen in my life.

And then now I just have to, like, process that. And, I mean, it's just so, so hard. I mean, so you think about my heart goes out to anybody's. That's the worst thing in the world. I can't even. I know. On Instagram, I learned recently, though, like, because I'll get. so much just all it is is like people that have like lost their children the most heart wrenching

horrible whatever but you can click something and say not interested so it stops feeding you these things yeah it's very hard because i think the way that we're the way this we're so like addicted to our phones yeah i speak for myself but that like instagram and like you're just seeing things that are like every type of feeling yeah right your brain can't handle that like just like that you're like good thing, terrible thing, like weird, upsetting. Like, yeah, it's just like cringy. Like, just like you're, but every two seconds, it's something like taking you to a totally different headspace.

And then that type of thing where you're looking at your phone to like unwind and then suddenly you're like thinking about the hardest thing in the world. And you're deep diving on like a person you've never met and family and like what happened. And like that, you know, and then you get. And it's just. It's really hard to let your brain do that. And of course, that's the least of it. But right.

Yeah. No, but it's so true. Did you know that? You could select not interesting? I just do it with my selection. So, like, I know. So, like, I'm on TikTok, right? And I know if I watch a whole video from start to finish,

that algorithm goes, oh, she likes this. We're going to send more of this type of material. So if I see something that instantly, I'm like, uh-uh, I swipe out of it quick. So I only will watch. TikTok I think is really, like, I don't have a TikTok account. Me either. And I feel like that one.

really good at like figuring out what you like really fast, which is... It gives me... Instagram's like, let me fucking stab you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't care what you like. The TikTok doesn't give me anything dark. Because I only watch the things that are comedy. So they're just funny things or experts.

Oh. So it's all like, I'm either learning something or laughing. Well, that's great. And if anything else comes in, I don't give it any attention. Yeah. So then it's kind of like your own mind. It's an extension. of your own brain.

Whatever thought you pay attention to you, you're going to have more of. Ooh. Ooh. Right? I know it's true. Sad and true. It's sad and true. Yeah.

So then I'm like, I know lately I've been trying to blast out some bad thoughts with like good music. Like I feel like I'll be like thinking something really negative about myself or something and I'm like, now I have to play a song that's all about loving yourself. And I'm like, when I'm like, like, Kenra Marr. Oh, okay. I was like, too.

And so I'm like, now I love myself. I'm like, I was going to like say that over and over again just to kind of like wash out the bad thing. 10 positive for one negative. Hmm. I haven't heard that. It's true. Scientific.

It's a lot. That's why I know I can get rid of the negative thoughts. Negative ones are easier. They're so much easier. So much easier. They're actually scientifically easier. Well, do you, okay, I feel like I was just hearing some about, like, do we like to have a negative, you, is there something about having a negative thought that you actually

enjoy on some level? Like, not, like, it's like some sort of hormone released or, like, something. thing has happened like I'm not dopamine I don't know what it would be but like is there something to that like that there's something like comfortable and like like feels good in some backwards way about like that old repeated thing I don't know so there is that right so it's a neuro pathway it's a neuro pathway that's been exercise over and over so it's really easy and it's a comfort zone your ego is designed by nature to keep you in your comfort zone because it's designed to keep you away from threat. So anytime you move outside of your comfort zone, it identifies that as threat.

So it goes, no, no, no, we're going to keep you here safe in that little box, right? Not only that, it's designed to problem solve. And so then the problem becomes you. Whoa. Do you see? Okay, Mel Robbins. Yeah. There's something here. Me and Mel. But so all we have to do is witness that. And go, okay, I see what it's doing. It's doing its job. Let me give it a new job. Do I need to like listen to me? She has a podcast. Like yeah, like a like self-help. Like it's I wonder if like listening to some repeated thing that's positive or like how do you create besides just going like now think about something else. Right. Because that's kind of hard. Right. You can't because you think of it like a freight train moving at you. That freight train has been going to a certain speed.

and a certain power your whole life. So you can't just be like, stop. What you have to do is step out of the way of the freight train. So the thought without judging it and just being like, oh, I witness that, I see that. And then it's pivoting to a new thought and just saying, I'm going to choose to look at this a different way. What's a different way I can look at this? Picking one.

And then that's why mantras and affirmations are so effective is simply because it's a pattern interrupt. And it takes you off the tracks that have been gathering momentum your whole life. So it's about finding new tracks. And the way you do that is pausing, choosing a different one and then exercising it so much that it starts to become a new track, which then starts to become second nature. So when you get triggered and it used to be, oh, I'm fat or whatever someone would say to themselves. You practice, I love my body so much that when that trigger happens instead of going I'm fat, it'll instantly start to go to, I love my body. But you have to exercise it. Sounds really nice to have it do that. It sounds really comforting in your brain to be like saying a good, like,

but you have to make that track. I know. That's the work part. Yeah. Yeah. No, no, I'm interested. That is, that is very interesting. I'm actually interested in this. No, no, I think it's like, and I, I'm, I am going to do that. That's it. Yeah, I like it. Yeah. That's why it's work. I'm leaving now.

Do you journal? I used to journal a lot. Me too. I used to always journal. I don't do it anymore since having kids. I don't do it anymore because I have kids. It's really hard. It's so hard.

But it's so crazy because I'm like, just do it right before you go to bed. I'm like, no. No. Yeah. I want to just watch TV. Yeah. Whatever. It's really hard.

Yeah. Yeah. I know. But it would be so nice. I want to get back into that. Me too. Maybe you should. Maybe today is the day.

be like, you know what? I'm going to do. Well, it was so funny because at the, at New Year's, like, I made like a whole like plan for my New Year's resolution. And it was like, I'm going to do these five things every day. And they were just like self care, like, including that, like, whatever. Just like basic things that I just, you know, I'm like, oh, I'm like, oh, I'm going to do. You know, like, just things where you're like, oh, whatever. So I'm like, I'm going to do all that stuff. And then literally the fires happened and like, I left my journal and I was like, I was gone for a month. I'm like, I don't know. Yeah. I'm like, yeah. I haven't done any of it at all, you know. But, but I was thinking,

the day, I was like, you know what, it's not, New Year's is not only January 1st. I can just, like, decide to, like, have a new habit today. It doesn't have a, right. Yeah. So I'm going to try again. I'm going to make my chart again and try to do it. Yeah. I'm really happy. Yeah. I don't, I want to journal more. I do do one thing every day that I start the morning with, which is just a thought pattern that I learned from Dr. Aman, which is. Who's that? He's everything. Okay. He's a, he's a, he's a, he's a, he was in 98 degrees. He was in 98 degrees. Okay. I know. Yeah. Yeah. No, he's a functional psychiatrist. Okay. And so he studies the brain. He does. He does like brain scans and can tell you all the insides of your brain and how orts and all that. Oh, I love that. You'll love him. Oh, that's cool. He's the best. Especially for parenting. He's really good too. Yeah. But he said he's been practicing this every day for X amount of years is the first thought you think. Like if it's like, I don't want to get up, right? Or your alarm goes off. You don't want to get up. So before I would be like, you know, and he has you do, today is going to be a great day.

And you just keep saying it over and over. Today is going to be a great day. Today is going to be a great day. And you kind of start that new pathway. Yeah, yeah. So every morning, that's what I do. It's really nice. On repeat.

And then I was like, a friend of mine was facing something scary. And I remember my brain was like, I don't want to wake up. I don't want to sleep more. I don't want to wake up. And then I was like, oh my God, I want to wake up. Yeah. And switching that little thought from I don't want to wake up to I want to wake up. Today's going to be great day on repeat.

That's helped me. You do that every day? Every single day. Well, it's nice because I definitely have repeating thoughts that are like annoying or whatever. I also always have a song in my head, which I think might be an ADD thing that's undiagnosed. But I was like on Reddit being like, are these normal things? And people are like, is it one specific? song? No, it's just kind of the last thing I heard will then like forever be like on a dull

hum and I'm like, what would happen if that went away? Like, I don't know. But it's interesting that like it's always, because I kind of assumed everyone, you know what I mean? Like once I started like Googling this, I'm like, just, is this like weird? I got off track. But I have a repeating thought. So I feel like I if I can go like, okay, let me like put in a good one. That's right. It does feel really nice because it's so easy to just get trapped on some loop. that's just negative or even I'll like I'll bring up like something I'll pull up like the oldest file and be like that was really bad oh yeah now I'm gonna think about that a lot and like feel bad about myself because I said something like so dumb 12 years ago or like yeah yeah I think

that's OCD ADD like at its finest yeah okay and then I think well I'm just like I think that's I'm like I'm diagnosing you today would be comforting. I feel like if I could get like a medication that would stop. Well, because I know people in these threads that I'm reading are like, well, and then I started taking whatever medication in it. And then that song went away. And I'm like, and they were like, it's so peaceful. And I was like, whoa. Like if I could turn off the song and then be like, it's hanging out. I almost feel like this song is good for you. Yeah. Like that's what I'm saying. Like if there's like not any of that. But I know it is always like the constant chatter. Like you want to quiet it. But what? No, keep going.

No, no what? I was just going to ask you if you get some stuck in your head, but keep on your thought. She's convinced that I do have ADD, 100%. Yeah. And as I'm thinking this morning, I woke up thinking about what I said to my daughter yesterday, and I'm looping on it. And I'm like, oh, fuck. Like she stood under, at school, it was raining. She stood under the roof where it was like a waterfall.

And she came out and her hair was soaking wet. And in my head, I'm like, that is disgusting water. The fires, da-da-da-da-da. You know? And I said to her, I'm like, honey, that is gross. You know, like I said something. And this morning, I was like, oh, my God. She's a free-spirited child having fun.

And I fucked up. And I said this and I shouldn't have said that. But it's just like a constant. It's just like an example of a loop. No, and it's so easy to do that about like kids stuff. Oh my God. Like I'm fucking them up. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And now, oh, my God, she's never going to be free again. You know. That's not going to happen. No, I know. But I know. But I'm corrected it this morning. And I just said, honey, I love what a free spirit you are and that you stood under that water, you know. And that's important because I think like, I think having the realization that you said something you didn't. It wasn't like the path you want to go on as a mom or something.

And then to correct it. She'll remember that you said that. I hope so. She's also really sensitive. So she thinks, oh my God, am I going to get sick because I stood under the wall? You know? Anyway. But then to say, I think just to say it.

To correct it. Yeah. That's important. A lot of people don't ever do stuff like that. And they just, even if they thought that was bad, they don't go back to say like. Right. You know. Like I fucked up.

Yeah. I'm always like, Mommy made a mistake. That's great. No, that's so good. Oh, that's. But it was. Yeah. A real loop.

No, yeah. Then you're like, oh my God, why did I do that? Oh my God, why did she's never going to do that again? Yeah. Do you get songs stuck in your head, though? I think so. Do you? I don't know.

I have to think about it. I know. Yeah. Not as much as you do. Yeah, I always have a song stuck in my head. Do you like lyrics? Live for lyrics. I love lyrics.

So I feel like that's also part of it. Like, I like to learn the lyrics of songs. Same. And so then it's like if I can, if I know the lyrics, it's so much better when the song is in my head. Because otherwise, it's like, 10 seconds. We were like, that's the party now. That's the party. Now that's part. And then it's like, if I can keep going, that's way better. Can we dissect that I am notorious for always getting

lyrics wrong? No, no, it's a real thing. Let's give examples. Sometimes I'm kind of fascinated when people really don't know lyrics or don't like hear them at all when you're listening. Like, what are you listening to? That's me. So what's going on for you? I have to actually focus. Okay, so it's just like washing over you. Yeah. Like, and I know the song and I know all the word. You're like, it's fun. My daughter will be like, no, like as a child, you're listening literally to like, I'm going to fuck that pussy. You know, like, whatever. And you're just like, ha, ha, like, you're so funny. But like my daughter now, who is listening to songs and actually listening to lyrics, she's like, mom, I hate this song.

They're talking about, like, they want to kill someone or like they have a gun or like bad blood. And I'm like, oh, you're hearing that? Like, I just hear the music. I don't hear the words. No, yeah. I'm concerned about lyrics because my husband likes rap music. And I'm like, I think it's going to really. a dangerous territory if she starts repeating any of this song.

It'll happen. Yeah. Like that's not going to be good. I guess I just never. It's so interesting. I just don't really hear them. Elliot said a line from a song the other day. He was singing along and then I was like, oh.

I'd never heard like I listen to every lyric. That's why I like music. I get straight up anxiety with classical music. Can't listen to it. I'm just waiting for the lyric. You know? So I'm all about this. That would be great.

But he said a lyric from, we were listening to like a post-Malone song and he said something like I fucked out all our brains. No. And he said that. That's not good. I was like, skip, yep. That's not good. And so how did he interpret it? I didn't ask.

I just said, hey, not child appropriate. We're going to change the song. Yeah, it's not appropriate. I want you to listen to Buy Dirt only because of the lyrics. I still pictured B. Y. No, me too. No. You're going to get into the lyrics.

It's a story. No, it sounds good. Buy dirt. Yeah. Buy dirt. Find the one you can't live without. Oh, my God. Allison.

I'll get the lyrics wrong. So what about you guys? What? My son went, came home the other day. Oh. And he goes. So they've been, okay, hold on. Wait, how old is he again?

Nine. Okay. He said they've, I can't. He said they've been talking a lot at school. My friends have been talking a lot at school about zodiac science. And he's like, so I told them mine and they said, that means you're a girl. Oh. And I said, why'd they say that?

And he said, because I told them I'm, well, that's free. I'm a lesbian. April 3rd. And he reenacted all their faces to me, and he goes in there all like, that means you're a girl. And he's like, so why does that make me a girl? I'm like, because Elliot, a lesbian is a gay woman. No wonder.

And he told his crush at school. Oh, yes. You didn't tell me I'm part of the story. He goes, oh, no. I told her on the line. She's going to think I'm not interested. Oh, no. She might be interested.

Yeah. She's going to be like, oh. She's like, I had this wrong the whole time. She said, he said she looked at him like, huh. And what is his sign? Libra. Okay. It's an L.

Yeah, yeah, L.B. I mean, I did that when I was a kid because I'm a Virgo and I told people I was a virgin. And they were like, yes, you are. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, my God. What's your birthday? August 25th.

Oh, I'm September 6. Oh, my God. We're virgins. Yeah. What's yours? She's a Libraibusian too. I'm a lesbian. October 14th.

Yeah. Do you hate Libros? No, I have it. I don't hate it. I don't hate anyone. No, I immediately thought of a random person who was birthday of October 14th. I have a thing with remembering birthdays where I like remember them about people like I haven't talked to in a really, really long time. Like I'm like kid from third grade, March 6th.

You know, I like, yeah, yeah, yeah, I just remember birthdays. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Again, OCD. October 14th. That's right.

Yeah. September 6. Yes. Very good. Guys, this was very informative and wonderful. We grew a lot. Just like the grass in the pencil mark. Go buy dirt.

Yeah. We're all going to go and buy dirt. Right, Kevin? Yeah. This was so much fun. So much fun. So much fun. Thank you for having me.

Thank you for us. I'm sorry we didn't have a banana for you. It's fine. I need a later. You guys? Yes, dear. Number one, I'm hungry. Starving.

Number two, how do you feel when they get your coffee order wrong? Not good. It was very, very upsetting this morning. Are you sure it was hope milk? Positive. It's such a difference. So here's the thing. Last time they got my coffee order wrong, somewhere else, I was so sick all day because they put whole milk instead of oat milk and I drank it not knowing.

And my stomach was ruined. Weren't you like, this is delicious? No, because, well, I got it from Starbucks and sometimes it was a macho latte and sometimes it's actually too sweet. So I was kind of like. I like their macho latte. I do you. I think it's so sweet, though. I think that's why I like it.

It's a full treat. Do you have a sweet tooth? Oh, yeah. Really? Mm-hmm. What's your favorite sweet? I had Oreos last night. Ooh. Do you dip them?

I don't. And peanut butter. I'm sorry? Yeah, that's a thing. I do like a tag-along version, basically. Oh, you dip your Oreos in peanut butter? Yeah. Mm-hmm.

I'll take a knife, put some peanut butter, lather it on the top. That sounds delicious. It's the best. I love peanut butter. Me too. I do too. Did you know that peanuts are not nuts? No. They're ground nuts. They're legumes. Oh, I think I have heard that. That's something you would know. I know. That sounds like when you're facts. I do have facts. Because like in Africa, they're called G nuts because they call them ground nuts. Yeah. G nuts. But we call them peanuts. But they're not nuts at all, guys. Wow. They're legumes. Yeah. I have heard that. Yeah, I'm a snapple factor. What's your go-to peanut stuff?

No, like, is it a bagel, a sandwich, what do you like to carrot, celery? Like with your peanut butter? Yeah, what do you like to have? Oh, with your peanut butter. Yeah. I find a way to eat peanut butter every day. Me too. Do you really?

Yeah. Yeah. I'm like a dog. I eat it on bananas. You eat it with apples. I eat it with pretzels. I eat it on toast. I eat it just a spoonful.

Yep. I love the toast, like a wheat toast or a sourdough with peanut butter and like slices of bananas on top of it. Have you done it with a rice cake? I know that sounds really healthy, but it's actually delicious. I don't think I have. But with peanut butter, honey and banana. Yeah, I drizzle on it. I do it for buyer. She loves it. It's really good. I also lately I get an English muffin with peanut butter traditional, but I also put a little jam on it too. But here's a really important question. We have talked about this. What?

What is your number one jam slash jelly flavor? I guess grape. Is it? Okay. That's safe? Yeah. Definitely safe. You're kind of basic.

Growing up though. Right, but growing up, if you were the grape, everyone was the strawberry and you were weird for the grape, but I was always grape growing up. Yeah. Don't you feel that? I like orange marmalade. You do like orange. I like blackberry.

I like blackberry, too. That's fun. Right? You can tell a lot about a person by what jam flavor they go with. Yeah. I'm definitely, my default is whatever safest. Whatever the default is is kind of where I lean.

To keep it safe. Yeah, I guess. To keep it safe zone. I'm always fascinated that Rachel, that you can just sit like this. What do you mean? I always have to like have my arm up.

Like I can sit with my arms in my lap? Like you can sit. just like that and you don't need hoisting. Hoisting? Like, you need nothing. Do you meditate? No.

You were going to say that's why? No, I just picture people that meditate having like good posture. And I don't. Or like, no, you do that you're able to stay in a single place. Stay in a single place. Hmm. I wonder.

Do you see what I mean? Now I was sitting over there before and I had to have my arm. Oh, you did? My hand was like a. Yeah. Okay. Maybe it's the couch.

It's like cozy, so I feel like I can just be, like, crunched into myself. Speaking of crunch. Oh, crunchy peanut butter. I like crunchy peanut butter, but my kids don't. I do, too. My daughter does. I never did it as a kid, and I feel that it's weird that she does, but she loves peanuts. Peanuts are bomb.

I'm so happy that she doesn't have a peanut allergy. There's so much peanut allergy now. I know. For me, crunchy peanut butter and, like, Strawberry Jam are similar in that. I like them both, but they're not a go-to. They're like a... Yeah, it's like every couple months will go like, oh, yeah, this hits.

But it's never going to be number one. Uh-huh. That's fair. But it's a fun number two. Have you ever fucked with the grape or the jelly and peanut butter that come together in the jar? No. Is it called a gruber or something? I hate that.

It gives me a little. I don't do it. But remember? Of course, I wanted it as a kid. no one would get it for me. The same people that were having that for me growing up were also doing like green ketchup and like... What is green ketchup?

Oh, because green tomatoes? No, there's like different types of ketchup where it was very popular for me as a kid where you could have different color, like non-traditional red ketchup and yellow mustard. You could get like a green ketchup and a blue mustard and stuff. It was like they were dying. Never heard of this. The condiments. Yeah.

This was this a Chicago thing? Probably. I don't know. No, I think it was like in the lunchebles era, there was like Heinz was getting crazy. Yeah, me too. But I feel like the people that got the jelly and the peanut butter in the mix together also had white wonder bread. Mm-hmm. Which we weren't allowed either.

You weren't? Never. Never. Why not? Because it wasn't healthy. Yeah. So they'd get us like, our sandwiches were so depressive. pressing, but they're the kind you would want now.

Sure. Yeah. You know? Right. She'd be like lettuce, tomato, avocado, fresh turkey, wheat bread. And I'd be like, I want wonder bread. Yeah. With a piece of American cheese.

Yeah. Never. Wow. Never. I can't remember. I mean, that's good though. I can't remember my sandwich. Yeah, but it made me kind of a binger.

Sure. And it made me become friends with people based on the food they had at their house. That's true. She would want the good cereal. That's relatable. Yeah. I'm like, dude, that. That bitch got hot pockets in the house.

I don't like this person, but their snacks are bombed, so I have to suck it up. That's how I feel now in dating. That's good to know. Yeah. What are you got in that fridge? What did you got in that fridge? I don't fuck with the oatmeal. Oh, that's going to be hard for you.

Everyone drinks oat milk. Don't you think? I don't know. My friend is in this conundrum where they just hired a nanny for his baby and the nanny, he was like, by the way, we have like great seltzer waters and stuff. And she's like, oh, that's awesome. And he was like, I feel so conflicted because she drinks a lot of the best seltzers that we have. And so like when she leaves, I'm like, ah, four of my favorite ones are gone.

And so he's like, feels, he's like, whatever, who cares? He's like, oh, man, she keeps drinking all of my favorite drinks in the fridge. I think that goes for anyone in your house when you have, like, the nice things or your favorite things. And there's, like, someone who comes, even if they're helping it, and if they take that stuff, I feel like everyone has that reaction, no? Mm-hmm. You don't? You're trying to tell me something. Yeah, it's you.

I always drink your drinks. You do always drink my drinks. No, but you know what I mean? Like, I feel like you've felt that way if you've had, like, a nanny or someone in the past, and then it's, like, you're a shit. and you're like, God damn it, you have to go get more. I'm trying to think about that. I feel like... I feel like I don't know.

Are you guys good with... I feel like... I used to force Caitlin to eat. Yeah, no. But I don't take my food. Do you what? Kevin? When you hang with friends, do you always bring something? Like a snack or a drink or something.

Like you're going to meet them at the mall? No, like at... their place or something. You don't do that. Leah, my wife's been teaching me that that is like what I should do. Yes, basically. And I do do it sometimes

where it's like a case of beer or a bottle of wine or something. But I would do it like every couple times and she's been good about like, no, they're hosting us. We should go. Oh, if it's like a hosted, like yeah, I would always bring something for sure. And not necessarily like a dinner. It depends on how close you are to them. Yes, that too.

If you're close, then you don't. Well, if you're close, you're like, what do you need? And they're like, honestly, nothing. And then you don't. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. But, like, random people. If formality, like, you don't know them that well, you always are like, here's a box of

Seas candy. It's always so weird for me, though, because I don't drink that I'm like, what do you bring? You're like, here's your spin drift. Yeah. Like, sounds awesome. I'd be excited by a case of spin drift, especially the half tea, half lemon, which you cannot find most places. They have it here.

grab a couple before you leave They have iced tea Oh wait Not the tea lemon They have a lemon Yeah just the lemon I'm telling you Kevin

There you go Tea lemon Not easy to come by I'm really hungry Me too I can think about no Oh yeah I have to start doing the

The timer down Instead of up My One of my favorite coffee shops In L.A It's called highlight coffee They do this drink Called the

Nathan Palmer It's their version of an Arnold Palmer, but it is, and it sounds crazy. It is half-cold brew coffee, half lemonade. That's right. Oh, yeah. It's something, I know what you're talking about. A third cold brew, or two-thirds cold brew, one-third lemonade.

It sounds nasty. It sounds pretty nasty. But I think it's so good. You've had hundreds. Yes. They also have an orange coffee there. That's my favorite. Oh, that one's really good.

What's an orange coffee? I forget what it's called there. I know you're talking. Cold are hot. It's hot. Well, you could get it probably. You get a cold. But it's a latte and it's like a sweet orange.

It's so good. That sounds good. It's really good. That is like I feel like the craziest thing I've done is had cold brew lemonade. That does sound weird. That's my strawberry jam or blackberry where I'm like. It's very good. I don't know.

Oh, I believe it. If they make it and you drink it, it's got to be good. Yeah. How do you feel about white chocolate? I like white chocolate. You do, but like will you pick it out? Well, like you know the Hershey's cookies and cookies. Cream candy bar.

Yeah. Love it. You buy it. You buy it. I would buy it, yeah. You know? Well, I went into Seas the other day. Yeah.

And they gave me white chocolate samples. What was in it? I didn't eat them. Oh. I gave him to Shepard. Well, I bribed him with them. Sure. And I was like, I don't know.

I like it with certain things, but it looked very dense. How do you feel about white chocolate? Or can you not eat it? If anything is vegan, I will probably eat it. Okay. So if there's a vegan white chocolate available. You'd eat it. Yes.

But I did like it pre-vegan too. I thought it was fun. Not like a go-to, but when it was like at a party or something, I'd be like, okay, I fuck with this. What about like seize candy? Do they have vegan things? I don't know. What? Like, is dark chocolate considered vegan?

I think so, yeah. weighs a little bit of milk in it. No, most I think dark chocolate is vegan, to my knowledge. I always try to check the ingredients and stuff, but a lot of dark chocolate is vegan. You're really missing out if you don't eat cease candy. Especially as a sweet tooth. This is what keeps me up at night. We, seriously.

Us two girls right here love. Die hard cease candy. I have eaten so many of the box you gave me. Have you? Yeah. I want it right now. It had the one you like in it, right? The Bordeaux.

I do. I like all. I like so many. That sounds like a great thing to bring to Hanks. I should just buy like a box of these candy. Several boxes and then just any time we're going out. Yeah. Just bring that.

No, that's a good. That's a safe go-to. Yeah. You know what my new go-to is when I go places is a box of donuts. So we'll do like Randy's donuts. Yeah. They have like fun donuts. But because I'm not going to bring wine or beer or whatever, people get down.

And you can do donut friend just in case people are. I know why that's not mine. Vegan. Oh, they don't deliver to you? Okay. Have you had donut friend? Oh, yeah. Yeah.

I tricked my dad with it. Because anything that's vegan, he's like, I'm not eating it. Yeah. I didn't mention it. And he went, that was good. And I was like, it was vegan. And he went, son of a bitch. That's a good one to do it.

They're so good. Anyway, just a little something for your back pocket. Yep. Marshallows, vegan, right? I don't think so. Oh, just kidding. Are they not? I'm pretty sure there's gelatin in it.

Oh, and that's an animal. My product. Oh, shit. Right. Because I have to look for everything dairy-free, but I forget that that's not the same as vegan. Right. You automatically pair it together. I do.

Well, because every time something's vegan, I know it's fine because it doesn't have dairy. Right. Yeah. I'm with you. I'm picking up what you're putting down. We're just so hungry we can't think about anything else. Let's go get lunch. Let's go get lunch.

Yeah. Bye. Bye. That was a HeadGum podcast.