Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - Manon Matthews on Letting Go of Parenting Fears

Episode Date: December 15, 2025

Rachel and Olivia catch up with comedian Manon Matthews about life after having a baby, how her vision for the future has evolved, and the way they each navigate their attachment styles.And just a heads up, the show is taking two weeks off for the holidays! We’ll be back with new episodes on January 5th. Happy holidays everyone!Watch the video of this episode here!Like the show? Rate Broad Ideas 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts and SpotifyAdvertise on Broad Ideas via Gumball.fm See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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For being hilarious. And being Man and Matthews. And being pretty. And being here. And being smart. And love her. And being wise. Let's let her talk.

Also, in other news, we're taking two weeks off for the holidays. You should too. We'll be back at the beginning of January. No, they shouldn't. They should recycle old episodes. No breaks for you, people. Welcome back to, no. No, yeah, no, that's it.

That's it. Come on. On this broad idea. The episode of these two broads. Three broads. Three broads, because there's three of us here. Go ahead. I don't.

I don't. You're like, I don't ask the question. We're a little out of sorts today, it seems. There's a few things in life that bring me joy. Oh, here we go. Tacos. Coffee. Obviously coffee and tacos.

And Manon, Matthew. And Menon. Manon, you do. You bring me the much. Like, just seeing you today, I feel better. I know. I feel better too. Don't you?

Yeah, I feel a lot better. You awkwardly walking through the house coming out the back. I got like nervous to knock on the door. I don't like rejection. And my fear was that like I was at the wrong house. Oh, that's the worst. That they were going to like slam the door in my face. Like you interrupted us.

Like I'm like, like, embarrassing. Yeah. Just showing up on an ounce. Yeah. And I like bungee jumping and like stand up. So like it doesn't make any sense that that would be the thing I'm scared of.

Wait, you like like bungee jumping? Yeah. Do you do it often? No, I've just done it a few times. But I liked the experience. Where have you done it? I don't know. There's like some place off of, do you know,

there's a place off of you exit the freeway and there's like a place that you hike five miles local I think it's called like the land of nowhere I don't know what it's called it's been so long it's like chatsworth or something no it's closer to here actually it's actually close to here I feel like are you going after this I'm gonna go after this hike what's cool is like you hike five miles up to it and what I like about it is that you bridge to nowhere see that felt right yeah and you you're cool and you you're like about it and you Your fear, your desire has to overcome your fear in order to actually be the one to jump because they don't push you. You have to be the one to be like, okay, I want to do this more than I'm afraid to do this. That's life, right?

Right? So it's really symbolic in that way. And then you have to trust that you're going to be caught and be fine. That's a huge lesson. And then I think the flood of emotions, you experience every emotion when you do it. And then afterward you just feel high. And I like that. I did it 30 days sober, actually.

You're like, and I like to feel high. And I like that high feeling of like, like, yeah, like I just faced a fear. Like every, the greatest things in life I think we're the most afraid of, right? And then when we cross over to that, we're like, oh, I did it. It's not that scary. Okay. I can do anything. That's how I fell after I bungee jumped the first.

I was like, oh, I can do anything now. Except knock on the door of a random stranger's house that I will not do. I will not. That's where I draw the line. Yeah. You guys, one time I knocked on the door of a random stranger's. house. On purpose?

We were being chased by these guys and we were like teenagers and we're like, this is sketchy. And they were like, get in the car. And we were like, ah. So we knocked on this person's house. I kid you not. This lady opened the door with an eye patch on her eye. She had a shotgun in her hands. Stop in a night down and she went, get in the house.

And we got in the house. You got in the house? No, that's when you leave. See cats. What? It was just cats. Stop. Was this the movie weapon?

No, I know. Like, this is a Tarantino movie? What is it happening? It was right off of Magnolia and Laurel Canyon. Stop it. Do you know the house? I think we need to go. A hundred percent.

Should we go after this? It's etched into my memory. She's still there? She's dead. Was she old? Oh, she's dead. Are the cats still there? Like 50 cats with newspaper everywhere and cat poop and pee and whatever. And then she walked us back home.

Are you sure you weren't high? I have friends that will back me up on it that were there. Okay. She walked us home with her shotgun in her hand. just like no one's going to mess. How do you not know this story, Rachel? I'm confused. I thought you knew everything about her. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's making it up on the spine. It never happened. That would be amazing if I made that up. How old were you? Probably 14. 13. 14. All right. She escorted you home with her shotgun and a nightgown.

Why did she need you in the house? Yeah, it was across the street from my mom's. Why did she say get it the one I live near? No. I'm trying to get you to move back to. To my old house? Yeah. Why did she need you inside? Yeah, why did she get you inside? How did she know? Because we knocked and we said, can you please let us in?

Someone's trying to kidnap us. Oh, so you lied. No. Is that where the lying started? That's where it stopped. No, these guys were trying to get us into our car. That was a big thing in the valley growing up is that people would try and abduct you. That never happened to you?

You never tried to get abducted? That was a big thing that happened in the Sally growing up. Like, what the fuck are you talking about? That didn't happen any? That never happened to me. No. Nobody ever, and what about jacking off? What?

Okay, hold on. Always. Just stop right now. Especially by your high school. We used to call him the Roscoe man. Oh, there was. Do you know where Roscoe Boulevard is? And you'd walk up and he'd be beaten him. There was a dude that would park out of our high school.

Thank you. Out of the side? Out of the side. And by Walter Reed. I think, you know what? I've seen him across from M Street Coffee as of late. Unless it's a different jack offer. Have you seen a jack offer recently?

There's only one in the valley. Only one. And he goes around. It's the Roscoe Man. The Roscoe Man. He's jacking off with his right hand. Welcome to broad ideas. Today on the show, we have Man and Matthew.

I want to know, though, for people who grew up, like, all over the country, whatever, if they two had. Jack offers? Yeah. I mean, I guess it's a thing, you know. Kevin, did you ever hear about that in high school? No. I did. He's like, but I didn't do it.

I did it on Wednesdays. No, the, showing up to places at the wrong time, I went in college to a Togo party on the wrong day. And I didn't know the person and they were like, can I help you?

And my friend and I were fully dressed up. We're like, we're here for the party. They're like, that's tomorrow. And then we walked home in the snow. Oh, my God. That's commitment. That is not jacking off, but it is commitment.

It was like a mental jacking off. You should really try dragging off. Yeah. Here it's a thing. Wait, I'm still kinkered over how you're like, it was a thing in the valley that every kid was going to be kidnapped. They tried to kidnap me all the time. I don't know if I was cute. How do you know it's kidnapping? Like, how do you know it's kidnapped?

Because when they come and say, get in the car. Oh, okay. And then they go to get out of the car and you have to run on foot away from them. She acts like this is a normal occurrence. I have never had that. Maybe I'm not as cute. That's what I wasn't. I wasn't as...

Kidnappable. Knappable. Or maybe you had parents. Maybe that's a show. You know what I mean? And you weren't like walking the streets alone as a child. No, I wasn't. Like a latchkey kid.

I wasn't. That was you. I didn't do that. Yeah, that was her for sure. I did not. You didn't walk alone. That's why. I did one time and I think my friend made up that a guy was chasing after us.

Oh, made up. Was it me? For heightened. Yeah, just for like, run faster. Yeah, yeah. It's nice. And we like went under. her a gutter thing to like go into the shopping mall by the house and she said he grabbed her legs.

I think she was lying. Lying. I don't really believe it. And he looked like Martin short. It was. And it was in fact. And that's why he looked like him. In fact. Last time I was here was what, like two years ago? I know. That's crazy. It's really actually offensive. It is. A lot's happened since that I had a child. You had a child. I got pregnant and had the baby. And he's already almost two. So it's actually It's probably been like three years. That is. When did you start?

It was like the first week you started. I was here. Is that true? Congratulations. Thank you. What about congratulations to you? Thank you. Yeah.

Thanks. I mean, how is that going? A baby. I mean, I could go with the good things. I can go to the hard things. What do you want to know? Let's get in. Let's get in.

Well, life changing on every level. As you two know, like you, I don't think that you get prepared for the like, the loss of freedom that you like I wasn't prepared for that I was only focusing on like what I was going to gain which was a weight and a child and yeah so there was a grieving process for sure of like the life that I once had of I really appreciate freedom and that's like a huge desire that I have to be able to like go anywhere wherever whenever right and it's not to say you can't but it's just like you know lugging all the things around and the baby's nap time and so all this thing that's like the challenging part and he's not a great sleeper either

That part's really hard. He's not a great kid. He's just not a great kid. He's really mean and stupid. No, he's actually incredibly bright. Chit-chatty, so funny, Aquarius, goofy, so loving, way more affectionate than I think I ever was. So it's amazing. I'm obsessed.

And I want more. You do want more? Yeah, I want more. But I don't know how I'm going to do it because I also don't sleep yet through the night. So I'm like, I don't know how my – Yeah. Yeah, I'm like, what are we doing? I don't know. Isn't it maybe, maybe just get it out of the way while you're not sleeping before you like get really good sleep and then have to disrupt it again?

Sure. I'm just, I guess I get nervous at like, what if I can't carry if I'm this stressed out? You know, like, that's what thought. It's the fear I have. Of course. What exactly is stressing you out the lack of sleep? Yeah. And I have like all these autoimmune things and I'm just afraid that I won't like be able to carry the second one. Because I'm surprised I even, they told me like with Hashimoto's, we're surprised we even. We're surprised we even. even got pregnant the first time. Yeah. And I got pregnant out of the first try. Yeah. I have a friend who has it and she had two kids like no problem. Maybe they just scare you. They like to scare you. They like to say that about everything. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Wow. Well, it's not going to get easier. Basically go home right now after this. Well, I looked at houses in Idaho because I was like, I need to get away. I need to get out of the rat race. Like, I need to slow down. I need to calm my nervous system. I think we're just used to L.A.'s energy. And so, like,

When I went to Idaho just to like see about it, I was so relaxed the whole time. And I was like, is this how people live? And I just felt like a chump. And I was like, they're living in mansions for like half of what we pay here. What am I doing? What am I doing? I do have a question on that, though. That's really important because I have friends that went and did that.

And it's a beautiful, their surroundings are beautiful, this, that, and the other, right? But they're bored? A little bit. Yeah. You know. Is that right? Yeah. You don't have the same community.

You have to build community, which is great. You can build a community. But here's my question. Is part of the relaxation that none of your life is there? Right? Oh. She's hitting. We ask the hard hitting questions.

Yeah, for sure. Yeah. So you bring all that. And then it's like the schedule that you bring all that. And then what? But it's an energy thing. Yeah, you're right. Yeah.

It's an energy thing too, though. I think I feel the collective, like when I'm in L.A. I have to go to yoga. I have to do breath work. I have to do meetings. I have to do all these things just to feel baseline. Whereas like when I was there, I just was baseline. And I was like, why am I working so hard just to feel normal? And I'm like, am I picking up on the collective? Because there's so many condensed people in L.A. And am I, am I that sensitive that I'm picking up on the energy? And when I'm somewhere that's actually spread out, like recently looking in Calabasas, which is so interesting because that's where I grew up. But I think I took it for granted that it was just such a beautiful. beautiful, clean, relaxing place. I just don't want to work against myself energetically, but I do like energy. Well, that's what I was going to say, because then when you get there, are you going to have all that in place and then be like, but there's no energy? That's what I experienced when I moved away. Yeah, tell me.

Oh, yeah, she did it. Even coming back, like there was something about, there was something that felt stagnant in the sense of growing up here. We're used to a certain energetic of people creating with. they want or whatever it is and whatever that means to people. And then you go other places and you're like, what's up? And they're like this. And you're like, but what else? And they're like this. And you're like, but what, what? You know? And then I'd come back to LA and I'd get in an Uber and the Uber driver would be like, listen to my mixtape. And I'd be like, fucking fuck yeah, Rod. Like, I want this

for you. Like there's like a certain thing that it's like I used to judge it and want away from it and be like, oh, everybody here wants something. And then when I was away from it, I'm like, wait a minute, that's also kind of cool that like this place collects people from all over the world that want to create. There is something about that is magical that when you leave it and come back to it, you kind of appreciate it. Yeah, I think that's probably what it is, is I'm not appreciating it because I have been here my whole life. So yeah. Right. Yeah, that's probably it. I mean, Yeah, we're in the same boat. I did spend a lot of time away from L.A. Like filming or something?

And like my ex-partner was from Canada, so we would spend a ton of time there. Okay. And I still have like that ideal, like, oh, escape, live on a farm, whatever. But then like you're there and it's nice. For like a month maybe? Yeah, but then you're like, okay, you know. Which I think, I mean, but I still think like, oh, I'll move to the Hudson Valley, like in my head. Right? Like, I can do that. But then I'm like, oh, fuck, I hate six months of winter. Like, not

that it's that there, but it's a really long winter and the snow and everything. I don't know. I was having this discussion with my daughter because she was like, oh, I wish it would snow here, blah, blah, blah. I'm like, but you can play soccer all year. She's like, oh, yeah, but what about indoor soccer? And then I wanted to check on that. Indoor soccer? Do they have indoor soccer, like on the East Coast? It's hockey. Anybody? Anyone? It's called hockey. But we can also go to this, you know. Yeah, you're two hours. Not even.

Even right from right here, it's so close. 45 minutes? Yeah. What? Yeah. To Lake Arrowhead or to Big Bear? From here? Yeah, super close.

Huh, Kev? Maybe I should move to Pasadena. That's a good idea. A good idea. That's a good idea? Yeah. I like, you know, adjacent. Not like actual L.A.

Yeah. Didn't. Hour and a half. She moved to Lake Arrowhead. Is she happy either? Yeah, she loves it. You don't love that? No, I just don't believe

an hour and a half. You don't believe she actually moved? I don't believe that she's there. I deny that. I don't believe some of her choices. I don't believe them. I just don't believe her. What if she didn't move there?

She just needs a break. She's just been making it up. Yeah, she's like a... She disappears. She disappears. I don't spend time with you guys anymore. I moved. I want to do that.

Yeah. What? Pretend to move, but I'm just at my house. No. Anybody? I really like that. I really like that. So does Kevin. Yeah, he's like, that's a great idea.

I called Man in this morning. But they still can text you, which is the whole thing. You know, to me, I'm off social media. No service. You're off social media. Yeah, like I don't, no, I mean, I'm still on it. Oh. My face is still on it, but I'm not on it.

I see. I'm not scrolling anymore. You're not. And I feel like all my dreams are changing. What? Like your real dreams, not your big dreams. Well, not your life. Both.

Both. All of it. Yeah, all of them are changing. I'm having more dreams at night, which is just weird. But also, like, I thought I'm like, like this year, I was like, okay, getting back into stand-up. I'm, you know, going to audition again for films. And now that I'm off social media, I'm like, me. I don't need to do any of that.

Isn't that weird? I'm like almost thinking, was I thinking I was speaking I was speaking I was supposed to because I was seeing people that were my friends, like, succeed on S&L and live shows and sitcoms. And I'm like, and I thought maybe I was supposed to pursue that. And now I'm like, I think I just want to like answer questions and like be a therapist again. Like, no, don't do that. You're too funny. Okay. What about like a TEDx speaker that's funny too? Why like that? Yeah, I like it. That I approve of. Okay. Thank you.

That's the thing you're a mix. Wait, you were a therapist? Well, I was a coach for like in the pandemic. But that I would, if you were like coach, that would be the best thing ever to have you. Because like if you add humor. Yeah. You should use your funny more when you're coaching. You've never coached with me.

I'm fucking hilarious. I'm sure. Because actually if you, if a person gives you a problem and you laugh at that, it dissolves their ability to take it serious. And so they go, oh, maybe I'm ridiculous in my belief system. So using humor is a really good modality for healing. But here's what I got like kind of burnt out. I was like, ooh, one on one is a lot. Okay, I need to do like group or something.

But even that, I'm like, okay, I don't even know if that's the thing. What is? God, we're so similar. I know, we are. It's interesting. Libras. You're, hold on. Virgo.

Oh, you're Virgo. What are your other two again? I don't remember. Oh. Come on, Rachel. She's going to jump you in that. alley. I'm not violent. You're the one that's going to kidnap me in the valley. Yeah, but I'll need to give kithith too and huggies. I'm not violent. Violence scares me.

Me too. Although I had a dream last night that I had to become like a jujitsu, like what's it called? Krav Maga. This is me pote eye gouging because I felt like I needed to do it because I was in danger. These are the dreams you're having without social media. Yeah, but I'm supposed to like learn to be comfortable in violence in case I need to defend something. I've never been a violent person. I haven't even been competitive in sports. Really? Yeah, it scares me to, like, overpower somebody physically. Hmm.

I don't know what that's about. Do you feel that? He probably knows what it's about. Do you feel violent? No. Do I feel violent? Do you feel violent? I feel so violent. But, like, what if you needed to?

Like, what if someone is attacking your little girl? What would you do? Oh, I would get violent. Yeah. Yeah. But, like, do you think you would win? I mean, look at me. You need to be.

I don't know. I would, like, my brother and I would, I would get into it growing up. So I have that fighting me. Oh, yeah, where we would just like attack. Same. Oh, see, I'm the only child. I never fought anybody physically. One time my cousin like pinned me down and it was the most traumatic thing I had ever experienced and she was a girl. And it was like came out of nowhere because I didn't grow up with her. But she has a brother. So I think she was just like, oh. But I'm not used to. I hate like when Johnny puts pressure on me, I hate it. I get angry. I get so angry and I start crying. He's like this is. Yeah. So I don't want that. I want to move through that. Right. So maybe you should take martial arts or something.

That's why you had the dream? That's why I had the dream. I'm saying new interests. I got to fight back. I have a, the brother thing. The brother thing. I was like in high school and this girl wanted to fight me and she was,

let me tell you, she came from a boxer family. Yeah, I believe it. She was like, you know, a lot bigger than me, a lot taller. Why did she want to fight you? Yeah, what did you do? Do you remember why she wanted to fight me? No, but I bet her boyfriend liked you. Oh.

Her best friend's boyfriend. Okay. See, I knew it was something. It's always the best friend that wants to fight for on behalf of their friend. Yeah, totally. And I was like, come at me, bro. Like, I really, and I'm like five, too. She's probably six feet.

And I still, like, and our friend Bridget came between us and was like, no, whoa. I would have been, like, beaten to death, I think, like 100%. But it's that fighting you. But you were ready. I was ready. Wow. Don't bite those ankles. Oh, my God.

I love that. In the middle. You need to teach me. I want that in me. No, I can't actually fight. No, but do you see how that probably showed up in your career of like, I'll just go for it? Because I don't. I always hold back.

I know, I know. It's weird. I know. You don't see that. But that's... We don't get her Instagram right on. Tell me if she fucking holds back. You're the opposite of that.

You are. I look at yours and I think that every day. Because Rachel and I, nobody knows that behind the scenes were really funny. Because we don't show it. It's about time. We save it. I thought she's going to say, like, we're really violent. We're really funny, privately, right?

I know that. We're like, if we could really show this, which is what you do, and I look at you and I go, I wish I had the courage to do what she does. What are you talking about? All of your creating. Like be goofy in the store? No. Or like, what do you mean? Were you not there?

Yeah. Were you not there? Everything you do. Everything. Do we need to pull up your... Let's pull up some videos. Seriously. Like, even just your dancing or the characters or the fact that you do it, period, that you have an idea and then it gets as far as the camera being on you and doing it.

Yeah, I guess for that, for some reason, the camera gives me permission. It's like a sign. Like, okay. Like, I don't know how to memorize lines. You give me an audition and I want to pee my pants. I hate it. hate it. Because it's awful. And people are like, why don't you have a show? Why aren't you this? I'm like, because the times that they're like, here, audition for this big thing, I'm like,

I don't know what to do. I don't feel free in this at all. You want me to say these lines? Can't I say these other lines that I make up on the spot? I think you should. I think you should. Yeah, 100%. I think you should just be like, fuck everybody and do your own version of whatever you think it is and send that in. Send that in to who? Just send it in. It's in. Just send it in. Sent. You know how it goes? You have to have a pitch thing and they have to approve it.

And then I'm like, oh, by this time I'm over it. I like spurts. I like the moment. You're improv. You're really strong an improv. Yeah. So I like that. So you need an improv show.

An improv show? Yeah. Why not? Okay. I would love to do that. So why don't you? Because there's other pieces that need to happen. What?

know. Like someone filming it and having a through line and it being a certain amount of time for a network and all those things. Have you ever tried to create that? No. Do you like that this is, you came here today for, to get coached. Yeah. No, I would love to do that. I don't really know. I guess I'm like, how do you start that? I think you start with the premise. That's what I'm saying. Okay, there we are you lost me. premise. What show would you want to model it off? I mean, I liked the key and peel style, right? Like Vincent and I had a key and peel and it was us too. And we were in talks with doing this with some people, but they needed so much structure.

And I was like, every video Vincent and I've ever done has been all improvised. We just set up the camera and we go. Every single one. Like every single one. And I'm like, I don't know what else to tell you all. I can tell you the kind of sketches we would do. We would do this, this, this, and then, I don't know. I'm getting stressed out. So uncomfortable. We can talk about it later. We don't need to do this on the podcast.

No, that's the only reason you're here. We're going to conceptualize your improv show. Okay. What else? How's the holidays for you guys? I just sit here until you answer the question. We're not moving, Manon, until you come up with your fucking show. The freedom aspect, right?

Like, you see freedom. I see like, oh, that's just no. normal for me. I don't see that's not complicated to like be. I think you're seeing like energy to its, it's like biggest and that occurs to you as freedom, right? Like, oh, she's being a lot big and like with her energy in public. Right? No. No. No. What do you see? Or you think it's courageous that I film it and like put it out there to the world without fear of judgment? I'm not saying you don't have fear of judgment, but you're doing it. I'm, I'm, you know where where I fear the judgment is the industry. Fuck the industry. Like these people.

I don't know, they're imaginary. They're who you're fighting in your dreams with Jiu-Jitsu. But you're gifted. Okay. Thank you. So are you. Thank you. So are you.

Gifted. But I guess it shows up in different ways. Like, what if this is all there is? What if it's like, okay, I guess I just make videos online forever. And that's the thing. Because I work in spurts and I get hits. But I don't feel like that every day. I barely make videos anymore. I've made 20 videos in two years. You're just seeing, you're just seeing recycled. What? Because you have a child. Yeah. Do you enjoy it? Making videos, yes. Oh, I love it. Yeah. That's why I do it. I would never. I would never do it if I didn't like it. That's what I'm saying. I don't like auditioning. So I don't, why is it so, do you like it? Do you like it? Nobody likes it. I feel like if you meet someone that's like, I love to audition. And you're like, you're not going to make it in this world.

You like auditioning. No, I don't think I've ever heard of a single person. I do. I have. I have one friend. Are you friends with them, though? Yes. And I adore her, but she's definitely like Asperger's.

Oh, she likes it. She says she likes it. And she says, I've just never experienced depression. I don't get it. So she's a unique human. So I go, when she says she likes auditioning, I'm like, okay, you may be the one person that's convinced yourself that you like auditioning. and I don't know if you're lying

or you're just not in access to her feeling. She's not very kinesthetic, right? Like we're all very feelings-based. Yeah. We have other, you know, like, I think you have to. She just doesn't have that access point. That's a real awkward thing. She's very awkward.

No, not her. She's very awkward. And I love her. And we've never had one fight in our 10-year friendship because I'm very feelings and she's not. So I take her as very literal. She's like a robot. I like it.

Like a sweet robot. I love her, but she's different. I wish you were a robot. Why? I don't know. It just sounds like, just tell you straight up. You just want, what? She like once looked at my mom and, or my, she actually looked at Vincent like 10 years

ago and she goes, do you ever get facials? Because like she'll just say things to your things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, she doesn't have. And I was like, and I like that because then I feel like she'll never lie to me. Because you know how I'm with lying with that X. I'm like, I don't know. When people lie, I start to feel really.

unsafe because I feel the need to overspeak the truth so that you know I'm not lying so that you can feel safe. It is a big deal. Yeah. The trauma you went through is like next level. I would feel that was supposed to be a movie too. It was. See?

Remember? Yeah, that was going to be a movie. Didn't do it. Listen, Mannon. Because I have to write it down. This is why you're here today. Back to the things I love. Can you tell me how to be a good mom?

Oh. Oh. Yeah. No. What? Like, what do I do? Because you have older children than my children. Like, how do you control your kid?

I can't. You can't control your kid. Yeah. You have a girl, don't you? Yeah, you have a difference. It's a different. She just like, I slept through the night and I'm just perfect and cute all the time. Well.

Yeah. Yeah. She's good, but she's, girls are a lot different than boys. And you have like an almost two. year old boy. So it's like, there's no version of... She doesn't climb trees and hold knives and be like, look, and then swing. No. I can't say it. Can't say that she does. Come to my house. You need to go to her house. 100%. Why are they just running around that? Just spend like a couple hours in her household and you'll be like,

oh. Yeah. It's, you want to get over your fear of violence. Come to my house. It's very violent. Why are they beating each other up? Constantly. Oh, yeah. It just co-cocks to the face. Her younger one knocked the older one's teeth out before. Kicked his tooth out and he swallowed it. Yeah.

They line up each night to be body slammed. Do you know they still call it body slamming John every time? They do? Every time. That's my brother. And there's a video of us as children, like from the 80s. And my brother on the bed being like, body slam and John. And he'd go like this and he'd, Body slam me, body slam on the bed, and so we all.

Yeah, the kids line up and go body slam. You just get in, like you just get bruised or something. Like, how are you okay? You survive it. Yeah. Oh, it's surviving. Did it cause any sort of trauma in either of you being beat up by your brother? Hmm.

We did like. What? We definitely liked guys that pick on us. Oh, yeah. Oh, for sure. I like that too. Yeah. You do.

Yeah. It's fun. It's fun. being made fun of. Oh, yeah. It's the best. I'm like, don't compliment me. Yeah, no, no, no, pull my big tails.

Ooh. I like that. We're getting a lot of insects today and death goes on in Olivia's home. That's like avoidant, right? Like, that's almost a little avoidant. I think I'm a little avoidant more than anxious attachment. Do you know about attachments? Yeah.

What's yours? I am well, anxious. Oh, you are? Yeah. What? I'm more the one trying to stay attached. Not anymore. No.

No. Not anymore. She's like, get the fuck off me. No. I used to be. Yeah. What changed? Just.

Marriage. You know, like really being comfortable and feeling secure and not feeling like I need to like do something to maintain someone's affection. I think changed it. It's feeling secure in the relationship. Yeah. Yeah. What's your attachment style? What's mine? I don't know. Yours, you don't know? Hers is a mix. She goes back and forth between the two.

See, that's why I didn't know. 100% dependent on partner and dependent on circumstance. She starts anxious and moves quickly into avoidant. Hmm. I sound complicated. You are. There we have it. By the end, she is avoidant. I'm like that too.

Little Houdini. I think if I had like a super, super, super. Yeah, I think I've always drawn in guys that like almost need me more than I need them, if that makes sense. And so I end up being really avoidant. Like, ugh. Right. Yeah.

But how is it now? I like Johnny because he, I think the reason why we're still together after six years, which is by far my longest relationship is because he's so secure. He's not anxious or avoidant. He's just secure. That's interesting. He slept on his mom for two years. So I think that I'm assuming that he just feels really comfortable.

She was just always there. So he doesn't, yeah, he like doesn't need me. I really like that. But he doesn't not need me. So I'm just kind of like, it's just been neutral the whole time. I'm like, hello? Are you staying? Are you going?

He's like, either one, I'm here. I don't care. I actually sometimes ask him like, like try to get him to tell me that he's out the door. So I can be like, because I like that for that. Yeah. Because I've always tended to felt really smothered in my relationships. Because I guess I don't call that in.

I don't know. See, I can't do that. I don't like, we've talked about this. I don't like it. And I'm curious, your style. I don't like it if someone likes me. That's avoidant. Well, I really like it when they don't.

You like it when they don't like you. As much. Yeah, it's fun. It's like, ooh, will we, won't we? What do I need to do? How do I need to be to, you know, I've got to change something. You too. It's nice when you feel like you have to up level for somebody.

If you feel like you can just like lay around and be whatever, it's like you clearly don't feel like you have a prize. Right. Right. I think. No, I think that's totally accurate. But do you like it when guys like you? Do you enjoy that kind of like some people like that sort of effect, I mean, attention. and some people don't. Do you like it?

Yeah, to an extent I do like it when they like me. Yeah, I do need to feel really special. Like, I'm pretty much the greatest person they've ever met. If I don't feel like that, then I kind of question. Even if you don't like them. That's just everybody. I mean, what do you mean? Even if I don't like them?

Yeah. Like some girls just really like to be liked and they get a lot from that. And it's not like they're entertaining the person, but they just enjoy being liked. Yeah, I enjoy being liked. I'd prefer if I liked them. That's more exciting if I like them and they really, really like me too. Like our exchange feels good to me because I feel like we all really like each other. And that's like, yay. But if I felt like you didn't like me, but I really liked you, I would wonder why I was here. More important. Do you like it? If they don't like me? No, if they like you. Like not if you're dating.

I feel like this is an obvious question. No, I hate it. You don't want to be liked? No, I don't like it. It makes me feel pressure and like they want something from me. I don't want to give them. Is that just with men? Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. I see what we're doing here. Okay. Makes you feel violated. Like you need to give them something. That makes sense. I don't like it.

Do you? I mean, it depends. You know? No, not generally. You don't? I don't think so. I mean sometimes. But I don't ever feel the need to give them something.

I mean, other than maybe a smile. I think sometimes I hug people that I don't want to. I'm not a big fan of always having to hug. I felt that when I came here. No, I'm just kidding. She doesn't make it. Yeah. You're not physically.

I like hugging you. Thank you. Oh, my God. Definitely 100% committed to that. But you don't feel the neat. Do you still hug them any? way? Or do you feel... If they go in for it, I have to. I know. I have a question. What? Hugging etiquette. This is really important, guys. We've covered this before. No. But say this is a new

question to that. Okay. Say you start off hugging someone. You stop mid-hug. No, no, no, no. Oh, no. Like, you see them, you hug them. Right. There's someone you see. There's someone you hug. You're like, oh, hey, how are you? But then you start seeing them a lot. A lot. And then you're like, do we still have to go into the hug? Do we still hug each time we see each other? Or like, we're done with that? I hope you're done with that. What are you talking about?

She gets it. I get it. Okay. Let's say we started where I saw Kevin and the first time I met him, I hugged him. I'm like, oh, hey, how are you? And then it's like... I actually feel like you don't need to hug someone when you first meet them. I didn't hug Kevin.

I'm never going to hug Kevin. No. No, I just didn't hug it. I didn't hug anyone I met this morning. I hug the people I knew. You feel the need to hug people you don't know? It's so weird. What do you think about that, Kevin?

I normally don't hug people when I meet them. Yeah, that's why you shake hands. Not me, but you see them, right? Like, say for instance, when my niece and nephew come over, I hug them. But now my nephew is my nanny, manny. So I don't hug him every time he comes because I see him every day. Well, isn't he a kid? He's 18.

Okay. I understand. If you see him every day, you don't need to hug him every day. I get that. But like if I saw you guys once a month, I'd hug you every time I saw you. I would. That's once a month. What if I met you somewhere every day?

Would you hug me every day? Yes. Okay. You would? I think so. I see Laura a lot and I see Vincent a lot. And you hug them every time. I'm pretty sure.

But I want, I'm like weird. I want to hug people longer than they want to be hugged. Because I want to get the oxytocin release, and that takes about six seconds. Do you count? Sometimes I'll just hold on people a little longer. And they don't, you know, I won't. But I like when people stay in it. There's a couple people that I've met that I don't even know that well.

And they just stay. And I'm like, this is really nice. And then it gets a little awkward. But it's really nice when they stay. There's some that are real good hugger. Yeah. And it's really healing. Are you ever in a hug or like a handhold?

And all you're thinking is like, okay, when do I let go? Or are they going to let go? Yeah. Like, is it constantly in your head the whole time? Not constantly, but it, if it lingers, yeah, I'll think, like, should I be the one to let go? I want them to know, especially if they're going through something. I'm like, I want them to know that I'm not trying to leave them. Right.

But I have had that thought. Like, when is, are they going to let go or should I do this? Do you think about that in your head? I don't. I'm sure I have. Yeah. Not every time. No, definitely not every time to you every time.

Every time. I think you have some like physical things. She's not very physical. Yeah, I could tell. But I am with like partners or my child. That's nice. Very physical. Very physical.

You're physical with your partners enough to have a child. That's true. But you know I'm very affectionate in a relationship and with my kid. Yeah, that's all you need. What about your mom? Not so much. Like, she'll have to ask me for a hug sometimes. She asks?

Sometimes. So doesn't she just open her arms? No, well, that's her asking. Oh, okay. But I see her a lot. I see her a lot. You don't hug her every time you see your mother? I probably do, but sometimes it has to be like, you know, her initiating.

Insinuating. She's like insinuating. She's like over here like this. I don't know. Arms are open. Are you insinuating? You know a hug? Just a real hug insinuated.

Yeah, I don't know. I don't know why I'm so weird like that because I'm super affectionate. It takes practice. In other areas. When I first met Johnny, he said I wasn't very affectionate. And I was like, whoa, that's crazy. And I actually went to therapy and, like, talked about it and learned a lot about myself. And, like, because my parents weren't that physically affectionate with me.

So, like, when I'm held for too long, I start to be like, ha. So I've had to, like, acclimate and grow over time and, like, be more, like, willing. to do that and now I feel a lot more comfortable and like I am more affectionate now. So it can change if you want it to. Not that you have a desire, but it's interesting. I'm like, fuck everybody. Do you hug your brother? Yeah. Every time you see him. It depends. If I'm seeing him a lot, then probably not. Is your brother older? Yes. I love my brother. He's like my favorite person. Does he look like you? No. No. Okay. Trying to get a visual.

He doesn't. Is he hot? I don't know. I hug my sister. Yeah, I don't know. Whatever. You have a sister too? I have two sisters that are a lot younger.

And then I have my sister-in-law. Wow. I hug them. This is great. You guys, this is. Hey, these are interesting tidbits into the soul of manning. I want to know about motherhood, though, like what I should be doing because I'm trying to just, like, be in acceptance with, like, how he is and where he's at. But I also feel like am I enabling him to just be, like, a wild child if I'm not setting too firm of, like, where's the line with discipline versus just allowing him to be who he is?

Because I don't feel like I'm disciplining or that. Give us an example of, like, something. I guess he woke up two nights ago screaming and crying and I just sat there with him with Johnny while he cried for 30 minutes. But I was trying to hold him and he just was like trying to get out of my arms. Then Johnny was trying to hold him,

trying to get out of arms. We just sat him on the floor and we just sat there with him and he was just like hysterical and I was like, I don't know what to do right now. Here's the thing. This is my only parenting advice. I think it's all you're going to fuck up your kid no matter what you do.

So there is no right way because you'll start doing it the right way and then experts will come out and be like, that is very wrong. And then you're like, oh, let me do it the right way and that'll feel wrong to you. So it's like a constant intuition-based thing. So I think no matter what, as long as you're following your own intuition and listening to yourself and knowing nobody knows better for your child what to do than you. And each one of us is going to do something different. Each one of our kids is going to come out with dings because they're human.

There's no getting out of it alive, right? So it's just about making sure the dings you do on your child are not self-inflicted, right? So it's not like you're psychologically screwing him up if you sit there with him while he cries. Like that could be a core memory that he's laying with his girlfriend one day and says, I always felt safe because I would cry. My mom would just sit there with me. We don't know. Right.

Yeah, but sometimes I try to like hold him and he's, and I feel like I'm strangling him. So then maybe let him go. Yeah, no, I did. I was like, okay, this isn't working. Well, I hear that and I'm like, that sounds like the right thing. Yeah. You know, just support, right? because he doesn't want to be held, that's fine, but you were still there.

And he knew you guys were there. So in my opinion, I feel it's a good thing. Yeah, like he would feel safe. Safe in his. The most fucked up is what they say is like, oh, I felt a band. Like they weren't there. I didn't have a father who was there. Like, they were never there.

I think that's probably the hardest thing to. Yeah. It is. And a lot of that is the filter too. Because you can see kids that do that. And they come out and saying, like, my dad wasn't there. and the other, and then you go back and you see, oh, no, dad was there, but he wasn't in the picture. They took the picture, and he was the one taking it. Like, it's all perception. So interesting.

I know, and I think I'm so scared of that. I think I see how hard I've been on my parents over my lifetime feeling like they really messed me up. And I've had to work so hard just to, like, be where I'm at today. And then I have a child and I go, oh, my God, they killed it. I didn't even realize they had it like it's so hard to be a parents now I have so much appreciation but I feel like I wasted so much time like I can't imagine River my son ever getting so angry at me like I was with my parents like I feel like I could have been nicer to them growing up knowing what I know now and I'm like oh is he gonna is there going to be a day where he just hates me possibly and I don't want to deal I'm so scared of that I feel like my heart can't take it it can and that's why you're his mom

I think the acceptance is the number one key is accepting, like, there's going to be things they resent us for. And if looking back, those things that we were doing, like the things my son resents me for now are the things I didn't get as a child. Like what? Yeah. Like help with homework. No one ever sat me down and was like, what are you struggling with? Here, let me sit down and make sure every day that your homework is done. Zero of that.

So every day, I am very dedicated to making sure he knows what he's doing in school, that he's doing his homework. So he's resentful at that. But it's like, I was resentful because I didn't get it. You know what I mean? Yeah. It's like. You always want what you can't have, you know, with everything. So you can't control that.

So all you can do is the best job that you can do and let go of like the outcome. It's fucking hard. This morning I was like, we were late for school. And this is a constant struggle where I lose my patience, you know. And then my daughter will be like, I'm sorry, mom, why are you so upset? And then it puts me in check. And I'm like, fuck, why am I so, why does it matter if you're a couple minutes late for school? Like, who fucking cares?

And so in the car ride over, I'm like, hey, I'm really sorry. I lost my patience. It's something I'm working on. And it's really not a big deal if you're a couple minutes late. Because I think about that. But then we overthink, right? Like, is this going to fuck up my child or like whatever? What's this creating and blah, blah, blah, blah.

And if you're constantly like, oh, like, was stressing out about time and being late. And then you look back and you're like, who fucking cares? Like that thing you sent me. The opening, the presents and the mess. I don't remember. You have to remind me. It was basically like a parent was saying like, oh, it's going to make me emotional. But a parent was saying like at the end of their life.

If you could go back and do one thing and it was like, I wouldn't clean up all the presents at the holidays. Like I would let you open them. I would sit in the mess with you. I would hold you. I would, instead of rushing to do all the things that take me away from just being present with you. And you know what? I love that. I keep thinking about like, they don't warn you when you have kids how painful it is to like lose their, you know, when they're young children.

right? And grieving that. And I know people say, like, in circumstances, like, you're lucky to watch them grow up, which is completely true. But they don't prepare you for the grief you kind of go through as they become humans. But then again, as you're saying this, I think why it's so, like, in our face and why it's hitting us so hard, it's fucking social media all the time is showing us. And like, you didn't know this was the last time you were going to hold your child. And then they got too big that you can't carry them around the house. And I'm like, oh, fuck. And I'm like so sad. And I've been thinking about that. But I think why it's so on our mind is because we see all that shit all the time. Right. And people are constantly reminding

us. Right. That they're growing up and you're not going to have this moment and you're not, you know what I mean? That just came to me right now. And it's so painful. Yeah. That like, so that, like, so that you do appreciate more. Of course. In the moment because it's like a warning. like, hey, it does go by fast, and there will be a day that this doesn't happen. So can you be in the moment now to really, really appreciate it? Because that's what I keep in those moments where he's, like, fighting and fighting and fighting. I remember something that I saw that's like, hey, cut two when you're 80. And pretend that you're 80, wishing that you had this moment. And then it brings me right back in the moment with a new perspective. So it is interesting. Yeah, I thought about that more of like,

oh, yeah, I need to clean up the house because everyone on Instagram's house looks so pristine. So I should probably clean for these imaginary people that are looking at the house. Like, what am I talking about? Like, why clean up the presence fast for who? Right. So that I feel like I'm in a clean home. Sure, I like being in a clean home. But sometimes I'm like, who's this all for?

Who am I doing this for? Like, all of it. If not for myself, what, like, I don't know what I'm living for. I think that's why I said when I got off social media, some of my dreams seemed to shift. And I was like, oh, are my dreams only because I'm seeing other people do these things, right? Totally. Totally. Or is it like a gift because it's like, no, it's showing you what you want to be doing and like, thank God, because then you start a podcast and I wasn't,

I wouldn't have had that thought to do. So it's like, is it a good thing or is it like, now I have all my hats in these different, you know, I'm trying on all these different hats because I think I should because I'm seeing they're doing and they look happy and that looks like something I want to do. Like, what do I really want to be doing? If I quiet my mind and get all social media, what actually lights me up? Right. Have you caught in it? any deeper insight on that? Yeah. I think I'll always love being in conversation and talking about truth and, you know, being kind of funny here and there and, like, enjoying that. I think connection is always what I deeply crave. It's like connection in that time, dancing in my living room with River

and Johnny. Like, I like those moments or like time with friends. Like, I really love that. I don't know if I need to be, I like creating content too. I will always like, if I have a funny character, I'll be like, oh, film this real quick. And I think that's for. fun. Yeah. I still want to make, I do want to make a movie. I do do want to do that where it's like a video but longer and telling a story. Like I wrote a film in 2016. It's like almost 10 years ago. Like I would like to make that. And even if it's not going to be perfect or whatever, I'd still like to go through that process and like see how fun that is. Having more control and not just being hired for one particular thing, but having eyes on like, oh, I want to make this decision. I want

to cast it. I want to do that. Like, you know, like, see what I wrote come to life seems like a fun thing, a fun project. So that lights me up. And then Krav Magna, I guess. Because I want to move past this, like, fear of being violent. Because I feel like it's tied to my power. Like, if I'm not willing to, like, hurt somebody in defense, where is that showing up with my, like, everywhere else? Interesting. Do you fancy yourself with people, please? I think I used to. Yeah. I used to. Like, if you're good, then I'm good. Right. But if you are not good, then I have to do everything in my power to make sure you're okay so that I can feel okay with you. It's weird. I felt like I think it was hypervigilant, like only child. My parents, like I felt like it was my responsibility to like make sure they're okay. And they kind of put that on me too. And they still do.

My dad, I lived in Santa Monica. My dad lives in Santa Monica. When I moved to Sherman Oaks, just a little bit further away, he lost his mind. And he's been guilt-tripping me ever since. To move to Sherman Oaks. I'm like, what if I moved to Idaho? Like, there's this weight on me that like I can't go far because my dad will be so upset. And at this point, I'm like, I have a family. I'm like, what am I, I can't live for you. Right. That's really hard. But yet, I feel for him because I'm like, well, if he loves me as much as I love River, which he does, my dad's, I'm not, I'm his only kid. Like, he's obsessed. Like, that's why I drew in guys that smothered me because he did. Like, with every emotion, it was just like, it's your job to make sure I'm okay. And I'm sure he doesn't intentionally think he's doing that. But that's the metaccommunication that I gathered was like, it's my job to make sure he's okay. Like, even when I went off to college, he was like, I feel like I'm losing my daughter. I'm like, that's hard. Why do I feel bad about this? It's hard. But, yeah, their own stuff on. Mm-hmm. I think about that because my daughter's an only child, you know.

But I think I'm conscious of that stuff. But it is interesting to hear, like, you grew up an only child and what that was like, because I always had a sibling. And that's really weighed on me that I didn't give her a sibling. And I have a lot of guilt around that. Oh, interesting. Yeah. Why?

I had one growing up and just thinking like she's like alone out there. You know what I mean? She's not. But like when she's older having, you know, I don't know. It's just all I knew. I'm an only child. I've never felt like I'm alone. Yeah. It's because it's what you know. Right. So it's like what you're comfortable, you get comfortable in that. Right. Right. You know, I don't even think I've thought twice about like, well, what if I had someone. I mean, I thought about it as an adult like, oh, that would have been helpful. actually to be like, hey, mom's being crazy, right? Dad's being crazy. This isn't all my fault, right? But the fact that you already tell her you're sorry is that's a game changer. I never got that.

So I internalized any time my parents were mad, I was like, it is my fault. Right. I am bad. So, hence overdoing things to like feel okay. If you're already, hey, I lost my cool and I'm so sorry and I'm working on it, that's amazing because then she's not taking it in. Yeah, you're killing it. it. You have the ability to repair. It's amazing. Like, I would have loved that. Oh, my gosh. All I

ever wanted was my dad to be like, that was wrong. I'm sorry. It's all I ever needed to hear. But I didn't even know I needed to hear it. I was just like, oh, I am bad. Okay. I guess I'm bad. Well, it's hard as a child not to feel like that. I feel like I do that to Elliot, my oldest, and he'll be like, I'm a bad kid. But you are being annoying. You know what I mean? Like, you are. You're pushing my nerves. Yeah. Like them is like a kid. I'm like, you're an incredible human being.

But your behavior is annoying right now. You're pushing my buttons and you're pushing the boundaries. And that is not cool, right? But another thing to your sibling thing for Breyer is that like sometimes you also don't know what you're going to get. You know? And a lot of times siblings could be more stress on a person. And more to take care of and more to manage and more. Yeah.

Because then maybe they feel like they have to take care of their sibling. Exactly. Who knows what their life journey is going to be. Literally. Yeah. Like that's a lot. Yeah. Right.

I don't have that. I mean, I feel the need to take care of my parents. I don't, I don't have somebody else that I'm like, oh, I need to manage them. Right. Oh, that's true. Or we didn't fight. You know, I never felt in competition. It's interesting.

I think the violence is like I've never felt in competition with anybody. Oh, that is really interesting. So I go full force and like, because I'm like, well, for why wouldn't I, I don't, I just don't compete. Right. So even in sports, I didn't compete. But I think that that was a problem because then I didn't want to overpower. I was like, wait, I'm not in competition with anybody. So I actually feel like I actually think, Johnny thinks I am pretty competitive.

And but he wants me to execute it. Like he wants me to like notice it and like embrace it. Because I feel like there's this whole untapped energy. Oh, I'm the same. You know? I'd flat. like my own team. We're out.

We're out. I'd rather be like, go ahead. You get it. Go. Yeah. Right? Yeah. But another thing, too, is that you create your own family.

Like, we're as much sisters as sisters, you know, minus. Because I can even say something about my mom, and it's not like, she's like, oh, interesting. At least she knows what I'm talking about in the same way. I'm saying it as a sibling would, even though you didn't grow up under the same roof. But, like, you do create that and you create these little families that. Yeah. No, Breyer has that with, like, Winnie and Stella. Yeah.

For sure. That's really nice. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I have that with Johnny. I wouldn't say that my friends really get it like that, like to that extent where it feels like they're your sister. But I moved around a lot.

That's because you left us for two years. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What the hell? And you're going to leave again. No. You're the one abandoning your sisters.

You didn't know. Shut up. She's like, you didn't invite me to Thanksgiving. You're the one moving to Idaho. Yeah. No, I'm not going. I'll go wherever you guys go. Well, we're, you know, this way.

We're this way. This way. I feel like we should end on like a news anchor. Oh, my. God, you are my psychic twin sister. I know. Because the way we started, I was going to bring it back to, one of my favorite things that brings me joy.

What? Is watching news bloopers? Oh, yeah. I haven't watched a ton. I don't think I've ever seen a news blooper. Act one out. Today, okay, where's my camera? Okay.

Let's see. Good morning. And welcome to Channel 7 News. Today, kitten titifa. See? No, but you have to keep it together. We're alive. Oh, yeah, we're live.

Today. You try it. Yeah, go. You try it. Today here on Channel 5 news, we are now, I don't know how to mess up. Like, I mean, that was it, but like, I don't know. You already had something in your back pocket. No, I didn't.

You didn't. Titty thought. She's heard that before. Channel 5. Back to you, Stan. And then they'll do things like this. They'll go. They'll go like this.

It's my armpit fat showing we're like... Today, there was torrential rains, you know? And they're like... My favorite is when they're like zooming with like Australia. And there's like a 20 second like delay. Just what I mean? So there's like this. For 20 seconds.

Right. Kitty. Right. Tiddy fuck. I don't think she hears us. You know. Yeah, I don't know on news bloopers, but that was good. I think that you should all do yourself a solid and just look up news bloopers on TikTok,

and then it'll start feeding them to you, and you will get some good glass. It's going to be fed to us now because we're talking about it. I feel like I've seen stuff where it's like something gets in their way, and they're like, get them. And they like curse, and they're like, sorry. You know, back to use, whatever. There was a raccoon that got loose, and the lady's like, look how fat. He's fucking. He's broken.

And then the great ones, too, oh, they're even better than the news bloopers, like the anchors, is the people they interview. And they'll be like, and Daphne, do tell us, how was it seeing someone enter your home? And then she'll be like, well, it was just a cable guy, and he's seen me nude many times. And you're like, what? Or the girl that goes, I got brown cutters. Ain't nobody got time for that. That one I saw. That was good, right?

Good Lord, there's a fire. What is it? Do you remember? No. I don't. I'm not on TikTok. Hide your kids. Hide your wife.

Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. It's a different one. I do know that one. But there's so many. There's so many. Send me them. Okay.

Text them, though, because I'm not online. I know. She can't send any TikToks to me. Do you still play F. Mary Kill? No. Remember? That? You used to. We could do it.

Let's do it right now. Let's do it. Okay. Fuck Mary Kill. Okay. Fuck Mary Kill. Oh, I just thought of a bunch of dead people. Hold on.

That was quick. I'll fuck them all. I mean, bury them all. Okay, I got a good one. Martin Short, Steve Martin. My abductor. And I like Baldwin. Martin Short, Steve Martin and Alec Baldwin?

Yeah. Okay, go. I like them all. You're like, but really that one? With that one? But that one? No, you have to answer. I have to answer.

No, you have to answer. I don't remember so long ago. I guess I'd marry Steve Martin. Obviously. Okay. Cool. I guess. Who's it?

Fuck? I guess I'd fuck Alec Baldwin. I would too. Yeah. Just for fun. Just for fun. But you're going to kill Martin? Sure.

I don't want to kill anybody, but you said you have to. You would fuck Martin Short? I can't kill him. You heard it here first. Rachel's going to fuck Martin Short. Well, let's talk about this. What is it, Rachel? No, then it's going to get too deep because, I mean, Alec has a lot of kids.

Well, don't worry about that. You're just fucking one time. No, but she could marry him or kill him. Yeah, you can't kill him. He's got kids. He has so many. Does Martin Short have kids? Yeah, kill him.

I mean, not in the nicest way. She said, yeah, kill him. Wait, he does have kids? I don't know. See, how do we not know this? He has to have kids. Does he have kids, Kevin? I think he has kids.

He's also dating our great queen. Who? Merrill Street. Who is? Martin Short. What? Yes. Three kids.

Stop. Three kids. He's got three kids. Oh, I don't want to kill him then. Does Steve Martin? Do you know? Steve Martin have any kids? Does he have kids?

I love that we all just know that. How many kids? How many girls are. How many girls and kids? One child. One. Oh, death. Should we kill Steve?

He dies. We kill Steve? You can't kill Steve? We need to hear yours. No. It's in a row. No. It goes one, two, three.

This is not us to answer. Please. Well, then you can give us one. She's actually. You're actually. I'll die. This is Martin Shorts' payback. Oh, my God.

He killed him. Who would you kill? Tell me. I'm crying. I need to know the answer. She's so heart wrenching. No, I can't do it. Would you marry?

Steve? Okay. Guys, this is a good horror movie. Oh, here we go. What? Do they not make it already? Did they? I bet it.

It's like the, wasn't there truth or dare movie? Okay, so that's next. Let's make it. Okay. We have to get on it because I'm going to lose power. Give her her people. What people? You tell her who you want.

Who does you want her to fuck Mary Kelly? Oh, what I want Rachel to? I think I want her to marry Martin. No, I don't think that. Oh, in the movie. No. No. You're not following, man.

I'm not at all. She wants you to give me three people. Random people right now? Yeah. Oh. All right. Okay. I don't like

I know That's why it's fun Chris Pine Chris Pratt and Chris Hemsworth That's good The three Chris is Chris Pines

That's what I thought Was I was I'm just Listen I'm gonna go back To I've already fucked him

I'm to go back To when I worked with Chris Pratt And he was my favorite Oh yeah And he's so funny Like He had me

Did he play Did he play your boyfriend? He was my best friend at Brown Okay. He played the didgeridoo. But did he hook up with anybody? Like on the show, was he anyone's love interest ever?

No. He was just your friend. I think he was just my friend. Did he help you through with like Seth's stuff? I think so. Okay. Yeah. I would marry him.

Okay. Great. Yeah, of course. Chris Pratt's the best. The best. Like, how can you? And he's aging like fine wine, you know. He's just, he's just the best.

I love him. And he's like kind. Adore him. He's a good person. He's a kind person. Yes. And he's hilarious. Yeah.

Who were the other two? Chris Pine and Chris Hemsworth. Oh, we already know this. No, I mean, I don't think I would. You would fuck Chris Pryne before Hemsworth? Yeah. Wow. All right.

All right. Yeah. Okay. I'm going to do that. Oh, geez. Falling apart. That made you feel really uncomfortable. Okay.

So I guess you would do. No, you have to give her three others. Different ones? Yeah. Oh, my God. Improv Manon. Improv. You want that.

Kristen Bell, Kristen Genoworth, and Kristen Stewart. Oh, sick. Okay. I would. Oh, that's hard. You know, I'd marry Kristen Bell. Yeah. For sure, obviously.

And I think I'd have to fuck Kristen Stewart. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Who is the third? Because she's kind of even, isn't she buy or something? She's not by. She's married to a woman. Okay, so she's got that energy too. Yeah.

And then. Kind of fuck Kristen Chenow with. That'd be interesting. It'd be interesting. It'd be popular. You'd have to be the... Popular. You'd have to be, I think, that I feel sad about that.

Yeah, that's really sad. But that's the only choices I'm given. Yeah. For sure. Okay. I never want to kill anyone. No, I can't. Let's just make that clear.

Also, Hemsworth has kids, you guys. I don't know. Yeah, so just have sex with them. Just do it. Chris Pine doesn't. Does he do it? Does he get Chris Pine have kids? Do you know, Kevin?

I like that we're fuck marrying killed based on the children. Chris Pine. Like, Polly doesn't have kids because he just doesn't. He just doesn't. Okay. So then I have to switch it because I cannot kill a father. No, I think he needs to do. Chris Pine.

Sorry, Pine. I feel bad. He's very good looking. Sure. His very pretty eyes. No, he is. He's at peace in the Pines. He seems kind of funny.

He's funny in Wonder Woman. The Chris's are slaying, you know. What are the Ryans? Ryan's. Ryan Gossing, Ryan Reynolds, and Ryan. And Ryan. Ryan. Ryan.

Murphy? Ryan. Ryan. Who's another Ryan? The only one I know is Ryan Murphy. Is that the creator of that show? Yeah. Ryan.

Ryan. There's probably to be more Ryan's. There's got to be more. Ryan's. Ryan. Ryan. Do we have any? Well, there's Ryan.

What does he have there? There's Ryan Ryan. Have you seen? Ryan Felipe. Oh, Ryan Felipe. Okay. Ryan Felipe, Ryan Reynolds, and Ryan Gautheling. Great.

That's you, babe. Me? Yeah. Yeah, that's all you, Rachel. That's all you, Rachel. That's all to you, Ryan. Oh, yeah, because she came up with it. And I went last, so it's you.

But she already did. I know. We can just keep going with this game. You know what would be a fun game is I write down her answers. Oh, yeah. And then I guess. And we see if they match. Oh.

Go for it, Rachel. You say my answers and I'll let you know if they match. Okay. Ryan Felipe, Ryan Reynolds and Ryan Gosling. Ryan Gosling. I think she would marry Ryan Gosling, fuck Ryan Felipe and kill Ryan Reynolds. That is accurate.

Thank you. I may have had a different answer, like, a few years ago. Yeah. But I think, I think in the past, if you had asked me five years ago, I'd say marry Ryan Reynolds. Yeah. Over Ryan Gosling? Mm-hmm. Are you okay?

Marriage material, we're talking. He seems like a good partner. Reynolds. Gossling? Gossling. Gossing seems like an okay. I would, I guess, no. I think I would have killed him.

I would never kill him. And I would have had sex with. Felipe? Felipe. You would kill Ryan Gossi? No, I would never. I'm telling you, if it's just between having sex with either one, I feel more physically drawn to the Felipe five years ago. Now it's different.

Now what is it? We're going to like cut the air, right? Cut the dead air. Mary Gosling. I would kill Ryan Reynolds and I would fuck Felipe. Yeah. Is that what you say? Yeah.

Okay. Yeah. And you're the same? Something shifted. I wonder what it is. I don't know. I can't quite put my finger on. Or is something happened in the world.

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And in other news, the work. Rosco Man is now dressing like a telotuby, so watch out. Isn't that called something? More on how vitamin C keeps you awake. Thanks, everyone. Having a dog sucks. For anyone thinking of getting a dog, you know what sucks? Is going from a house where the dog could go in and out of the dog door to having to go home and let your dog out?

Like what most people do? Brutal, don't do it. But she has a dog door, to be clear. She still has a dog door. But I don't have a pool fence up and I don't want my dog to die because she can't swim. Because she has a French bulldog and French bulldogs are bowling balls and will just sink. Yeah. And she knows not to go by the water, but if you put a noise on the other side of that pool, she's going right in.

Right through it. Well, it seems like you need a pool fence. So if anyone is considering getting a dog. It's really hard because that's all Breyer wants. And I got her a dog. five years ago. And now your mom has a dog. Every time I get a dog, my mom gets a new dog.

That's her third dog you've given her. Correct. That is correct. They're always home. They are. I know, but she doesn't want another dog. Well, you never know. She's going to get one.

I do know. I do. I don't think she wants another dog. I like having a dog. I love dogs. I even want a big dog. Love it. It's hard.

It's really a lot of work. It's a lot of work. And then you have to go home to it. You know what I mean? Otherwise, you're a dick. I'm looking at the least, like, high-maintenance pets. Which are? Research.

Well, none. What are the least, though? Like a bearded dragon? No. Like a fish. They die. Yeah. That's why they're the least commitment.

Oh, poor fish. More than one person has told me since I've become a dad, like, I get it. I have a dog. It's crazy. You're like, it's not the same. Not the same. I understand that it's more responsibility than nothing, but. It's not the same.

I almost feel gaslit by one or people are like, I get it, man. My dog is like, I have to take them to the outside twice a day. Yeah. So it's a little different. Yeah, it's a little different. But I will say having a puppy feels a little bit. bit like having a baby because it keeps you up all night. Unpredictable.

And you have to get up and take it to pee. You don't want it again? I wouldn't get a puppy. Just get a cat. I would rescue an older dog that's already potty trained. Yeah. Only way. That's the way you do.

Why don't you get a cat? I am not talking about this right now. I want to say something that is still one of the funniest things this year to me is we've been very vocally against cats. Sorry listeners. We love you. who are cat owners. We then, I don't know how

simultaneously had to do several ads for cat food. I love cats. It made me laugh so hard. No, I really do. Okay. And I do too. Love them so much.

I love cats. I like feeding them. I love cat food. She loved the woman's house that had 50 cats. That's true. Love it. It was just the timing of having to do so many ads for cat stuff really made me laugh. Cats are less of a commitment than not less of a commitment. Sorry, I don't mean that.

But they are. They're a little easier than dogs because you don't have to like let them out. They're way easier. They're independent. They're very independent. And they're also sometimes scary. A little skittish. But boy, do I love feeding them.

You know? Feeding them. Yes, yeah, yeah. I love cats. Especially cat litter, all of it. I love cats. Everyone, happy holidays. Yeah, exactly.

Have a great holiday season. See you next year. See you next year. Happy. Wait, greetings, tidings. Yeah. Tidings. Greetings, tidings.

What does it say? You're giving lumberjack right now and I like it. I'm going to the Great White North. Bye. Bye. We got to go. Bye, everyone. I didn't know you dressed for it.

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