Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - Margaret Cho on her Burner Pussy, Menopause, and Bringing her Dog to a Sex Club

Episode Date: January 23, 2023

Stand up icon Margaret Cho talks with Olivia and Rachel about what her pussy and The Hague has in common, menopause, and trauma. Margaret also shares her takes on virtual reality, weird kinks, and bringing her dog to a sex club. Broad Ideas is supported by Factor. Head to FactorMeals.com/ideas60 and use code ideas60 to get 60% off your first box. Broad Ideas is supported by TalkSpace. Get $100 off your first month at Talkspace.com/OC.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Welcome to broad ideas. Welcome to broad ideas. Rob is talking today. Hi, Rob. Hey, Rachel. Lulu. Um, you guys, I love comedians. I love female comedians.

Laughing. Margaret Cho is on with us today. She has a tour coming up, live and livid. And her tickets are on sale now. That'll be fun. She's very funny. We're going, right? Yeah, I would love to.

I really do. Like, that's one thing. I don't love going to, like, concerts, but, like, comedy I really enjoy. Oh, good. Hi. Hi. Nice to meet you. We should be friends.

We should be friends. Yeah, so let's welcome Margaret Cho. Sometimes when inside of Rachel, little brain All these thoughts are swirling Round and round inside To join us on this journey As we take a little ride

We'll talk about dogs and kids and things We'll talk about chicks and tampon strings We'll talk about boys Because people die Hi I'm Olivia, nice to meet you Nice to meet you. And I'm Rachel.

Hi. Hi. So nice to meet you. So good to meet you. Just been a fan for such a long time. So it's like, that's awesome. Seconds. Well, you're awesome.

Thank you. Oh gosh. You're awesome. Thank you. We're so excited to speak with you and for you to take the time to talk to us a little bit. Yeah. One of the things I respect about you, you've shared so many different life experiences as far as growing up

and what you went through. And one of the things you were. quote it's saying about how like when you reveal those parts of yourself, it's healing and it's healing for others. Definitely. It's so true. It's like scar tissue really forms when it hits the light and oxygen and, you know, you can feel like you really heal when these things are kind of brought to the light. Sunlight is a great antiseptic and it's just, it heals, it cleans you up, it feels much better. That's a beautiful way to put it. Yeah. And your genius and how you can just bring it and express it and just how you're so fucking funny, obviously.

Oh, thank you. That's wonderful. So long, just laughing our asses off because you're brilliant. And I just think it's a beautiful example. Thank you. Yeah. Thank you. Yeah.

But here's my question. Yes. When I read about you, I'm like, okay, so there is fucking truth to that. Like, there is truth to like some of our biggest comedic. geniuses, there is such a dark side, right? And I know that's something that people are like, well, it doesn't have to be. But then when I'm reading about your upbringing, I'm like, here we go again. It's another case of someone who has been through massive life. Do you think it's connected? Do you think? Well, I think that like having a sense of humor is really connected

to having a need to cope with tragic. with sadness with trauma. So that's why I think there's a great comedy tradition in there's Jewish comedians, trying to find a way to make sense of the Holocaust, trying to find a way to make sense of the generational trauma being passed down, this trauma that has to turn into something good

for us to be able to survive. It has to turn into these lessons and it turns into these stories of resilience and hope. And so, you know, immigrant stories are really all about that. Immigrant stories are about finding that hope, finding that will to survive. And humor is an unexpected breath in a moment that forces you to live on another second. So it's like this intake of breath that you didn't know you were going to take, but it ensures life for that next thing.

So it's a very, I think it's healing, but people who have a very developed sense of humor often, but people who have very consciously dealt with trauma. I think that trauma is really universal, though. I don't think that it is necessarily a generational trauma or like because of these horrible things that have happened historically. I think that trauma is really life lived,

Everybody experiences it. And sort of the way that you go about it is really what defines your outlook on life. So for me, humor is a way to face it and to make sense of it in a way. Is that something that you grasped later in life? Like, do you remember when you first took that breath when you were like, oh, this is a fucking relief or whatever that feeling was? Do you remember that? I don't know exactly if I remember the first instance of it. I remember the last instance of it, which was probably like yesterday.

I was like, oh, my pussy is the hague because every bad person will come there at some point. So like it's... Wait, my pussy is the what? The hague? It's one of the hake. They try war criminals. Yeah. So it's like...

But I was thinking that. Oh, that's probably funny. Either that or my asshole, I've been having a lot of anal sex. So my asshole is my burner pussy. And the thing that I am thinking about usually kind of comes up as like, oh, it has to do with my vagina or my asshole. So, but those are the places that I've had a lot of trauma, which is like really trauma. And, you know, the sense I've dealt with abuse. I've dealt with lots of domestic violence.

I've dealt with a lot of that over years. But also lately, now it's sort of self-trauma of menopause and aging. And my body's changing in a way that I'm like unfamiliar with, but also celebrating, but also some comfortable. So it's like that. That's like the trauma of the dayliness. So it's like always sort of goes there. There's always some trauma present, right?

It's like you get through it and then you're like, oh, groovy. Worked through that. Now I'm in menopause. Yeah. But menopause is also a celebration of like, to me, it's really like the societal spin on menopause is all wrong because society is so patriarchal and focuses so much on women's reproductive ability. Whereas now for me, I'm like, oh, I actually have a chance to find out who I am without all of the hormonal stuff going on.

So it feels very good. But it's also, there's physical changes that I'm really unfamiliar with that are happening. Right. I know. I'm always interested, you know, when that process happens and starts to take place. And I also think there's a beautiful side to it. First, you're like, well, I can't get pregnant. So you can come in me, which is always comforting. Yeah. But like, you know, just as a woman going through that, I think it's probably a cool process. And yeah, once you get through, I know, like, the hormones, it can be kind of intense. And from what I've heard. And I think that it's different. Yeah. Yeah. It's different. It's like different for everyone. And like, the less we sort of talk about it, the more mystery there is and then the more need to frame it as something negative.

Right. Like, oh, I'm going to have hot flashes. I'm going to be angry and irritated. But none of that has happened. Awesome. It's been very different. It's more just like, you know, like my body's changing, but things that I just didn't expect. So there's a lot of stuff that I like, oh, menopause is different for everyone.

Yeah. But the way we frame it can be negative. but I think of it as very interesting. It's a change that I'm really excited about. I think because for me and my family, everybody got a hysterectomy. Oh. So they all had gone through this very fast menopause in their 30s.

Wow. Nobody's held onto a uterus and nobody can hang on to them. I'm a border. I have all my organs all over the inside of me. It's just everywhere, all organs and organs. So, yeah, I kept everything. Good for you. you. Yeah, good for you. Healing generational curses. Yeah. Yes. What are the unexpected things for you?

I think the unexpected joys and like celebration, sort of freedom of like choices and the freedom to figure out who I am in this space of not having to sort of negotiate sort of a biological urge to want to nest and partner and be with anybody. So this is the first time. I've really spent significant time alone outside of a romantic relationship. And every time I've been in a relationship, I've been really unhappy. And now being on my own, well, I have a cat here. I have a cat there. I have three cats. I have a dog. I have hundreds of plants.

I have many, many, many birds who visit over the seasons, different birds all the time. So I have a really, a beautiful. I feel like filled with rich and rewarding relationships, but I don't have to share the bed. Well, I do share the bed. But it was with lots of little things that are less than 10 pounds, which is nice. Do you think those hormones did make you want to attach to people? Yes. And people that I didn't want to be with.

And like, you know, these people like that I just didn't know how to get away from. Because I just was like, you know, taught for so long, you have to have a. man, I don't even like Dick. Oh. But you have to have a man. So I would have a man. And then I'm like, I don't even want to be in this relationship, but I can't get out. I'll just break up with him by dying.

Oh, fine. I'll just put a bunch of drugs and try to like, oh, and get away. But it's like that doesn't work like that. It doesn't work. Right. So I just want to live and, you know, maybe at some point a relationship will make sense. But right now it feels really good to not have. have to negotiate my meals with anyone or my television or my music or the volume of anything

or the temperature temperature temperature blankets although I have like a cool side and a warm side of my bed so like one one side is just sheets and one side is blankets and then the cat and dog side is very hot and warm and then the other side is very cool so it's like a mcdLT you remember haven't been fieldy. It was like all lettuce and tomato on one side. And then the burger and the cheese on the other side, the hot side and the cool side. I sleep on the cool side. So you haven't gotten the hot flashes. I feel like I would like them because I'm always so cold. When people are like you get hot flashes, I'm like amazing. I want them. Well, I do have sweats, but not full on hot flashes. I'm just a sweaty person in general, but I've always been. So that's not new. I'm also very cold. So I run cold and run hot. hot, but that's never changed. So it's not really hot flashes, no. I just love not putting a stigma against any of these things, you know, as women and aging and everything. And especially in the public eye, you know, all of that can be tough. But I think talking about it is the best thing you can do. Yeah. But I also think, like, well, it's an honor to age and it's good to age.

And it's weird when people should put such a value on youth. I was never happy when I was never happy when I was younger. Who was? Right. So, yeah, I don't think it's easy to be a young person. And it's sad, too, because I look back and I never took photos. And, I mean, there's photos of me, but there are not things that I have, like, of cherish memories because I didn't take them.

Right. Because I didn't cherish my youth. I'm also not part of that selfie generation, so I don't really know what that would be like. But I think that's got to be hard, too, especially with all of the editing, photo editing and everything. Right. But, yeah, I never do anything like that. I think it's interesting to age and like, oh, it's so wild what gravity can do.

Oh, yes. We're familiar after breastfeeding children. Yeah, it's interesting. It's interesting. Yeah, for sure. But I love that. And I'm a big believer in not filtering, you know, when you put things on the internet because on Instagram and whatnot because it's just you're giving this fake representation.

And also younger people that are looking at it, I just have a big issue with it because you're just painting this false. picture. Right. Right. I think it's a weird kind of thing because I think like ultimately I'm probably vain because I do want to see myself in a certain light, but I also don't like to edit photos, mostly because I just don't know how, so that that's pretty much it. But it's also that like I think, well, I don't feel like it's an honest portrayal of who I am to live every day. Right. We have some questions that we'd like to ask you if you're willing, which we would be. start with. Is your butthole, your burner pussy?

It is. It's really like the pussy that you, you know, it's like, it's like a pussy you didn't know you have. It's like your extra pussy. Yeah. It's your backup. It's your backup. Literally your backup plan. Really quick last yesterday we were talking about, I made some sort of joke about getting Botox in the vagina. Is that a thing? No. Oh. It was just like I was joking. And then my husband started talking about like, I wonder if people do that. Like I wonder if people do like Botox or would it make it loose. That I don't know. Sorry.

Well, it would make it probably make it loose because if it atrophies the muscle. Yeah, that's what he was saying. It would make it slack maybe. But I've had a vagacial. Oh, which is a pussy facial. Yeah. Which is great. Is it like the steam thing that, like a yoni?

I've done that too. Yeah. That's a Korean thing. Really? Yeah, that's a V-Steem. That's Korean. Yeah, my family's always, but they all had hysterectomy. So I'm like, what the fuck do you know about pussy?

But you know, you don't know anything. But they're like, don't sit on a cold floor. Make sure it's near a warm space. Like you have to keep your, I don't know, keep it hot. Keep it like wearing like shearling underwear? I don't know, but keep it. Keep it warm. No marble surfaces for it.

Nothing hard. Interesting. And what do they do? Like steam it and... The budget strel is they'll do extractions. Okay. If you have a little bit of, um, a packney. I guess.

Pussy acne. Or, um, butney or, um, butney or whatever. Um, they'll do like a mask. Mm-hmm. And like a, um, warm towel. They'll do a shave and like warm towel situation. So there's different things that they do that you serve or like a serum.

There's total, all sorts of stuff. Anything that you would get done anywhere else you get done there. It's great. That's a happy ending. Yeah. That sounds. No happy ending. I mean, it's probably there.

But I just think there's something so not sexual about bath anything. Or like, to me, I think I hate having sex in the bath because it's just, it's so like. Same. Yeah. That's what it is. So, you know what I mean? It's so squeaky and like, and then, or if you're like in the pool, it's horrible. It's all chlorine and weird.

Oh, yeah. So I don't like it. I always find that like it's wet in there, but I always find that I'm not. And it's like I couldn't be drier and it's very awkward. Yeah. Because it washes away all of your natural moisture for anything. So it's very abrasive. So, yeah, to me, like anything like that is not very sexual.

Yeah. I'm so glad you said that. Because I've never, you know, they see like, oh, a bath and the roses and this. Never have I found it sexual at all. No. When they do like a path of rose petals to the bathroom or the windows, it was candles. You let candles lit. and there's water's cold.

Yeah. Who's going to vacuum these pedals? It's too big for the vacuum. What are you going to pick and pluck them up? I mean, that's a nightmare. No, I hate that stuff. Yeah. If you could have sex with anyone in the history of the world,

which three people would you pick? Three people. Um, I would say, well, I think Catherine the Great would be really fun. Oh. Casanova Gizkas. Nice. And maybe, oh, I forgot her name, but she wrote the pillow book. She was a cortisone in Japan, and it's considered the very first novel.

But the pillow book is like a Japanese book. Oh, I don't know. S-E-I is her first name. Say? Say? Se? That has? Shonagon?

Yes. Yes. Say Gondagon, Donagon, something. Shonagong or something. Oh, say Seanaghan. So she wrote the pillow book, which is kind of like, it's a novel, but it's also like a guide to life for the courtly lady in the Edo period in Japan. Wow. So she would say that the second time a lover comes is the best time.

So she was like, it's the first time you sort of like you figure it out, second time. that's the shit. And every time after that is awful. And so she's right. She's like so right about that. But yes, say Shona God, the lady Shona Gung, she, that I would like to have sex with her. She would be really great. That's awesome. Yeah. Those are awesome answers. Broad Ideas is supported by Talkspace. Putting yourself first in the New Year doesn't have to be a challenge thanks to Talkspace. Using Talkspace feels a little like having a mental health professional in your pocket. Talkspace offers therapy and psychiatry and being able to reach out to my provider anytime, anywhere, makes taking care of my mental health super easy, whether I'm working or managing everyday tasks. Taking care of my own mental health has never been easier. I am a huge fan of therapy.

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But not anything. I don't know that. That's weird. Just bypass the second vagina. Yeah. You like to eat the pussy from behind, but not the asshole. And I just felt so. He just was obsessed with it.

And I'm like, I felt bad because he was cute and nice. Such a sweet guy. And we were at the house of pies and I ate an entire hot fight Sunday. And I got to the bottom and I said, I can't see you anymore. What? It sounds like bad feng shui. It was definitely bad feng shui. It was weird like his feet was by the pussy.

Don't sleep with your feet pointing at the pussy. No, it was weird. It was definitely bad feng shui. I just didn't approve of that. But everything about him otherwise was top notch. And I realized, I think what it was was a kind of like, it was secondary gay. because I was really in love with his girlfriend

that he had before me, who I didn't know. You didn't know? Is that you said? I didn't know her, but I knew of them as a couple. And I was really into her, but I wasn't really able to make any moves on her, of course,

because she was very, like, heterosexual. And, you know, very, but I was, I love the head cheerleader. I love that cheerleader and a football player, like that kind of, like, you know, prom king and queen, sort of, like, iconic archetypes. Yeah. Right. And so I think I only liked him because, you know, he was with her for so long. So sort of like, sort of like in a way that, in the way that all sorts of like, you know, when famous people sort of get together, they always get together with other famous people after. They're sort of like that thing. But this is like another. You can smell it. You taster on him.

Yeah. I like that. I like that. Okay, tell us your worst one-night stand. Or best. Or best. Worst. The worst one-night stand was actually a three-way, which is like super weird. So I don't really like three-ways anyway. But I was on my period.

Fun. And it was like really, it was like 20 years old or something, 21. And it was my friend. and a detective, oddly. He was a detective. And the next day there was blood all over his room. Hand prints of blood on the wall, my blood. I was like, this is the worst.

This is the worst, the worst. Oh, literal crime scene. That's so good. Such a crime scene. The other one was I had been talking in the sky and then we hooked up and then I didn't realize he had a problem with erectile dysfunction or premature deactylation, but we were excited to get together

and then he leaned over to turn off the light like before we had sex and he came when he hit the light switch and I'm like wow because like he really loves to save electricity what is it? I mean I was it to make one of the

They're pretty much a jacket. But it was such a weird place to come. Yeah. You could have come. It was a very non-sexual place to come because it was like when you're just turning a light off. That's so wild. Why do you come when you turn off the light? But, you know, it was weird.

You're like, I have to get him the clapper. I know, really. Or not. Or not. Or not. Or not. Oh, my God. Take them camping.

What's the weirdest kink or fetish you've experienced? So there was this guy, he was a lawyer. That is weird. And he was in his 70s. And he had a junk, which is the Chinese schooner, a ship he lived on. Got it. It was like in the Marina del Rey, huge Chinese schooner. like look like from the 1800s like

giant he had a veterinary surgical machine that would normally be used to extract fluids during surgery from large animals

so he had attached a suction this is all like heavy duty surgical, veterinary surgical equipment. So he had attached a suction cup,

a large suction cup to the machine. So it would enlarge his penis to this, and he would have it attached for over 36 hours at a time.

And he'd take it off to use the bathroom. Yeah. But he wouldn't sleep. What? Or anything the whole time. He'd be super

turned down the whole time. And it would get the size of his penis would be enlarged to roughly the size of a basketball, sometimes a beach ball. Round? Round. What in the actual? Because he had sort of a rounded, in a large penis, but now it was so enlarged because it had been held with this constant pressure and suction, so it looked so strange. It looked like he was holding like a medicine ball. But it was his penis. And they just talked. I have conversations.

He had a girlfriend. She would just sort of like be there in the room. And this is in North Hollywood. This is so weird. It was at a sex club that I should go to at the turn of the century. And then I sort of started having a relationship with him a little bit. Not sexual, but not not sexual. Right.

Because I was like, this is super weird. and he was very enthusiastic about it, but he was also like, you know, I can't really explain it and I can't really share this with anybody, I guess. So, you know, it's just, I don't know what the kink was. It was like either the body enlargement, the penis enlargement,

the oddness of the shape, it's a body modification. Yeah. It's a little bit of exhibitionism. It's neither straight nor gay, although he was probably straight because he was only around women. And when he was talking to me, there was a sexual undercurrent to it, but he was also not physical. Hmm. Did it turn you on? Not exactly.

I was super curious, though. Right. So I really wanted to ask him a million questions about it. I just really didn't understand it. Like I wanted to understand. Those kinds of fetishes to me are so, like, how does you figure this out? Right. Right. I've never seen anything like that before or since. Very unusual person. I don't know if he's alive now. He would be in his 90s. He's still sitting there.

He's still swell enough. But he would say it would take about 48 hours for it to completely, like, regain its shape. Whoa. That is amazing. And he would say he felt high. And I'm like, that's so great. And he was very wealthy from his lifetime. I'm in, you know, being an attorney.

So it's so amazing. Like, this is like, and like, where did you get that in front of the veterinary surgery surgery machine and everything? Do you come up with this? I don't know. Yeah, where, yeah. Kind of animal husbandry shit that you're doing. I don't know.

See, but my mind goes to what is the sex club? Like, what is a sex club? It was, it's called the Lairdussod and it was a. It's still there probably. It was a BDSM club that had rotating nights. So you would have like gay nights, you know, and it was those sort of like the eagle where you'd have sort of leather daddy's come in and then you have like rubber night.

Wow. And all the people like we were rubber. Yeah. And then you'd have Femdom Night where, you know, you would get your car parked by naked man, which is always weird. I'm like, I don't know. Like sitting on my leather with your balls? I know, I'm really sure.

Okay. It would take your car and it would be in the parking lot and they'd be naked parking. I'm like, I don't, okay, where you're going to put my keys? I don't want to know. I don't know. Leave the keys in the car. Just leave it. Leave it.

What was your night? I'll park myself. Yeah, what was your night? I would go on fetish night, rubber night. Conquest night, which was mailed on. I mean, I could go every night. The gay nights all the time. Lesbian nights all the time.

So it was sort of like anything. And they were so nice. It burned down sometime in the 90s. And they sent them $500. And they called me and they cried because they're so happy. It was really nice. And then they would have fairs, During the day where they would sell, people would bring spice mix.

They would make their own spices. It was like a lot of handicrafts, like people making candles. Like a Renaissance fair with Saturday. Lots of Renaissance fair crossover. A lot of LARPing crossover. Wow. So, yeah. Oh, my gosh.

So now in this day and age, do you have to show like papers or anything for sex clubs? I would say. And does everyone have sex with you? each other? Well, no. I mean, it's sort of usually, it's like a B.YO sex, bring your own. Right. In general. But what about STD, like, proof papers? Oh, no. They, you only need that if you're like, because those clubs, they usually, you're only able to have sex with people of your fluid, bonded. Got it. In general. I mean, people... That's what you meant by B.YOS. Like, bring your own sex. Your own partner in general. You bring your own sex. I get it. Yeah. You bring your own sex partner, but also it, you know, it sort of depends. But I think, yeah, you only need to show that if you're engaging in sex work or like, you know, like for porn stuff, I knew a lot of porn stars who would get tested every two weeks or something. Right. And they would bring their paperwork. But for that place, I think you have to show your Vax card. So.

I do have lots of boosters on my backscar, so I could go, but I don't know. I haven't been to his X-Clint for quite a few years. When the last thing I went was actually I went and I have brought my dog because it was like, it was weird. I was at a Halloween party and we were when a joint costume and I had to sort of, I was like, oh, I'm going to go to this place. This was before the pandemic. So I went in and my dog is really well-behaved. She's now a service dog. She's very, very well-trained.

But at that point, this was some years ago. She was not as well. And we went in and we were walking around and then my dog looks in there. There's this woman fillating a man with a very large penis. And then my dog started going, like he says barking. I don't know why. Because I guess she was freaked up by the energy because she's not seen that before. And they looked up.

they looked up and there was a woman sitting on the couch watching the sex happen and the woman turns to me and she goes you know this whole place used to be the camera shop and then she kept turned around and started watching the sex again and I was like okay so it was a place that used to be the camera shop on sunset bullet right is where they had that sex club but um there's a I do think that sex clubs are really interesting because to me I'm not an exhibitionist, so it's not sexy. I'm not exactly a voyeur, so that's not sexy. But I am maybe a voyeur because I'm very curious.

I'm a curious cat. So I just really, I like looking. It doesn't turn me on exactly, but I just want to know what is going on. So that to me is I'm a real spectator when it comes to that. So that stuff is really interesting. Right. I find it fascinating. I do too.

And I know we don't want to take advantage of your time too much. So we end our conversations with fuck Mary Kill. Okay. So we have Khi Kwan, Mark Hamel. Oh, Mary. Oh, Mary. And Cuba Gooding Jr. Mary, fuck, kill.

Got it. Oh, in order. I would fuck Mark Hamel, Mary Kew Kuan, and... You're killing Cuba. Kill in Cuba. Well, I don't know. Kill is a strong. It's a strong.

Barry. You can also say Mary Barry one night stand, which is a little gentler. Yes. Yes. You're going to bury. That's what it is. Okay. Yes.

Thank you so much for taking time to speak with us, Margaret. Of course, thank you. Such a fan, and you're so inspiring, and it was so nice to talk to you. So nice. Oh, here's my dog. Oh, let's see. She saw the blow job, and she said, but, but she has never seen. I know we have to let her go.

but she's never seen a blowjob. Only that one time. Only that one time. You're not into that anymore. Have you moved on? Well, no, I haven't. But usually she's not in the room when I've had sex. Yeah.

Because she just is like, wants to get all up in it. Yeah, she doesn't understand because it doesn't happen that often. So she's usually not in the room when I'm entertaining. She's very cute. I'm glad we clarified that before we got off. Yes. So cute. Thank you for sharing with us everything.

Thank you. Thank you. I'll see you. See you. Boop-bo-do-do-bo-bo-bo-boop. I... How do you feel about sex clubs? So good.

Robert? I don't really have thoughts. No, you don't... I've never been to a strip club, so I can't imagine you have thoughts or feelings on sex clubs. How do you feel? I don't know. I've actually never... thought about it. Okay, so let's take a moment. Let's all think of it and see how it makes you feel.

Yeah. Are you wet? Close your eyes. Where in your body do you feel it? Where do you feel it in your body when you think of it? You know what's something that happens to me? It's changing the subject. I get no, no, no. I get feelings when I feel anything really strongly like empathy or sympathy or I want to cry, I get this weird pain feeling in the palm of my hand. Do you think maybe possible you were Jesus in the past life? I think that's exactly what it did. No, but yeah? Oh my God. Well, I never thought of that one either. I mean, come on. No, it's not weird. I get this really weird pain in the palm of, like aches. Like where the nail went through. But it's weird and that's where I feel things. If I want to cry or I feel something for someone or someone hurts themselves and you really feel it, you know?

I feel like that's the only logical explanation. That I was Jesus. Yeah. But also the Virgin Mary when you didn't get your period. I'm definitely the Virgin Mary. Weren't we all kind of just wondering that anyways, though? If I was Jesus? Is she Jesus?

I don't know. Yeah, I've thought that. Same. Rachel Bilsson. Would you ever go to a sex club with Jeff if it was like something you guys were in on? No. But have sex with each. You don't have sex with other people, but it's like a fetish night and you guys get to go.

What other people watch us have sex? I don't really know how it works. I've never been to one. Yeah, I don't know if I trust a place. They have apparently really good charcutorries. This is true. I've heard good reviews. I mean, that would get me anywhere. Yeah.

Throw a good sharcudery out there, and I'm all in. I have thought, though, and I'm not going to lie. Never mind. What? Never mind. Say it. You're not allowed to see, never mind after that. Jeff and I would be fun to watch.

Why wouldn't you want to say that? I don't know. You guys have fun, like you feel proud of your sex. She's just cracking jokes the whole time. No, there's certain people, and you know you have all felt this, where you see them and you're like, I don't want to visualize them having sex. It just makes you feel really weird. I don't think I've ever felt the opposite, though. Like, I see two people, and I'm like, I want to watch them have sex.

Oh, okay. Yeah, I don't think I've had that either. I don't think it's, like, come to my mind. I'm sure there's people I can think of, and I'd be like, all right. That's what I mean. That. You feel like you and Jeff are the candidates. Yeah, like it wouldn't be an awful watch.

No, you both are very beautiful. Do you know what I mean? I just mean like it's not physically, like physically, you'd be like, okay, that, that, I could watch that. Could you watch me? Yeah. What's that? Your face. That was great.

Could you watch me? I could. I'm not, yeah. Not in the room. No. No. No. Okay. Go on. Explain. No. I mean, you're obviously stunning, you know, so you would be good, like, fun to look at. You know what I mean?

But like, I can't think of like you and Jeff and, like, be like, oh, I can watch you guys having sex. Like, that just doesn't work for me. Yeah, I got that. Yeah. Because, like, you guys are my family. Right. It's weird. Yeah. I get it. It's watching your sister and brother have sex. Yeah. Exactly. Could you have any friends, Rob, that you and Natalie be like, you know, we can watch them. Have you ever thought while having sex with Natalie Someone should be watching this Have you guys ever taped yourselves?

No? Nope. Have you ever wanted to? No. Have you ever taped yourself, Lou? No. You haven't. Someone else did?

I may have once been accidentally taped. How does that accidentally happen? You mean someone like... Didn't I already tell you guys this? story. Say it and I'll tell you if I know it. I went to a birthday party and my ex-boyfriend's house. His little brother was having a party. I went to go pee in the bathroom and I saw a red light. Okay. And I was like, dude, he's taping people go pee or like someone is. And so. So you decided to have sex in me? So I said, yo, great camera opportunity in the bathroom.

No, so I went and told my boyfriend and he sat him down and all of his friends because they were younger and he was like, it's not okay to tape people when they don't know. And I had remembered once, I saw a little red light in the room and I got up and I had stopped it. Thought I destroyed the tape. But when he said to his brother, it's really wrong to tape people when they don't know. his brother's head went down and he was like, yeah, it really is, dude. And he, like, looked at me. And I was like, no.

And all the friends, every single one of the friends' heads went down. Because your boyfriend had taped you? I was like, you guys all saw it? And they went, yep. So he had taped me without me knowing. And I flipped and I got like really mad. I thought I'd destroyed the tape. but apparently his brother found it

and showed it to his friends. He did it without you knowing. And then he, no, no, no. When you thought you destroyed it. Yeah, I thought I destroyed it. You caught him in the middle of it. Yeah. Got it.

I had acrylics. Long nails. I remember that. And then he was trying to reverend his brother. Yeah, for it. For filming people pee. While knowing that his. brother knew that he had done that to you. He did not know that his brother had found the tape.

He thought that was his own little secret sex lab. You know what I mean? But it wasn't. Wow. Wow. I've wondered through the years where is that tape. Have you tried Googling? Yes. Oh my God. Apparently there's a porn star that looks just like me. Really? Who told you? Everybody. Every time I go to Starbucks. They're like, you know. Hey. Nancy does it. I don't know her name. Can you guys say something? She's so uncomfortable. You've never told that story.

I feel like it has. You may have, but I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. That's crazy. I've never, I've never been taped. Not going to know of. That I know of. Fuck. Would you not allow it? It depends on who it's with. Don't how much you trust them. Yeah. Don't you depend on who it's with with your sex. partners too.

No, that's not as to anyone, but not anyone could date me. That's not super important. Yeah, I don't know. I would have to really trust the person. I'm sure, like, in my long terms, I would have, but we just never did.

Would you ever purposely release a sex tape? Your career's over. No, Rob. I have been, I have had pictures that were. But they didn't make it out, did they? No, because the person kept them for their personal collection.

What happened? We've talked about this. You know, you can't always be together. There's some long-term, long-distance situations. So I like to keep things interesting. What does that mean? I was not shy. I was really not shy.

And I would send photos to accompany my partner. my partner on his journey. Oh, he went to a company. Yeah, so, you know, I was not, I was very free with it, and I would always send pictures. One day. How old were you when this was happening? Not in my 20s. One day, I forget who called me.

I forget where it came from. Maybe my lawyers. They're like, humble brag. My lawyers. My lawyers. My lawyers. They're like, so we got a call from the FAA I'm like, go on.

Listening. And there seems to be a man in Florida who may have a bunch of indecent photos of yourself. Is it okay? So the FBI need to come and see you. How panicked are you at this? Oh, well, they start to believe. what they're saying is true. Well, I was like, well, tell me more.

And they're like, okay, well, here's, the good news in this is the man has not sold these photos. The bad news is, yes, he has kept them for himself. It's a little creepy. And this is the guy that you sent them to? No, they're like, your email has been hacked. There's a hacked email. There are these pictures. The FBI needs to come and see you and show them to you.

you can verify that they... You can identify the body. Yeah, so you can identify them that it is you. I'm like, fine. My mom is with me. I'm like, you know, God, these FBI... These two very, like, middle-aged, like, FBI agents come walking down my driveway, and we sit at the kitchen table.

Are you attracted to either of these? Both of them. Tremendously. They have, like, a CD, right? In the days where you could put a CD into your computer, and they, they plop it on in, and we're sitting there. My mom's there with me, and we're sitting down. They're like, okay, we need to show you these photos that we've gotten from this man.

We've hacked your email. We need you to identify that it is, in fact, you. Okay. First one pops up. Yep, those are my boobs. Yep. Yes, sir. Yes, sir.

FBI agent, sir. Those are mine. My mom's next to me the whole time. She made them. You didn't think to not have your mom sit next to you? My mom's very open sexually. I was not worried about it. I needed support.

Next picture You know Maybe my butt Whatever Yes Yes FBI agent That is indeed My backside

They keep going Through pictures right And I'm like yes Do you feel like They were slightly disappointed in you Yeah I was totally being shamed

And judged Was this all for one Yeah it was just one person Yes One partner Yes I'm a committed person I didn't know

If they had to amount. This was a collection of like... I mean, it was quite a collection, but it was quite a collection for the one partner. We're going, we're going, we're going. Finally we get to... Oh, Jesus. Listening.

Full... Full frontal... Spread. Spread. Spread. Inside. Inside. Click open.

in that picture, I say, no, sir, that is not me. And they start, we just said, I'm laughing. No, but I, like, I committed to it. I was like, nope, not me. Moving on. Because I was fortified. These two, like, older men sitting there and I had to identify. They should have sent to woman.

They really, you know what? I do have to choose with this. That is not okay, actually. I feel like it's probably not okay. They should not have done that. They shouldn't have been able to look. Maybe they weren't, you know what? Maybe they were women.

Maybe they were just clicking it, but they weren't looking. You know, because I feel like that would. Either way, they should have sent like a forensic nurse or like. Yeah, you're right. A woman. You're right. These were two like not chill. Middle-aged men in my kitchen, clicking through pictures of very personal,

personal photos of myself. What face were you making in the last one? Was your face in it? My face wasn't in any of them. That's why I had to identify them. That's why I was like, nope, not me. Because you can't see my face. Which, by the way, I never, ever put my face in photos.

But also, like, how do you know? In any photos. But if they're showing you a bunch of different pictures, right? Well, you're just like, I recognize the rim that was taken in. I know. Because, like, do you know your vagina looks like? I know the pictures I take. Oh, you know the pictures you take.

Got it, got it. You studied it and examined. Also, how do you take, how do you like actually? No, we're not going there. Did you have a, like, a tripod? Did you have a shoe horn? Because you're like, it's the inside. Like, the, you have hands.

Oh, you have hands. I don't need to paint too graphic of a fucking picture here. Could you draw it and we could post it with this episode? Dude, it was so retinful. Anyone listening right now, go to the Broaddities, Instagram. Yeah. We'll be posting. No, it's so mortifying.

In my defense, everyone has done. some like super i've never done that you've never sent really raunchy pictures to your partner not the inside not not the inside of my vagina but you know what i mean this is very embarrassing you know what i'm talking about yeah but this is real and this is going on on a daily basis and people are doing it non-stop but you just have never done it i've been in what let's you've never sent a picture when like your husband's away or something like the inside of my vagina know what I'm talking about. I don't like you guys.

You're making me feel very, are there ashamed in here? Hey, I don't think that's so weird. I don't think that's so weird. No, but you? I wish Leo was here right now. Whoa. She would be like, of course.

Let me back into my fingers and sat. Oh, can you call her? Should we phone a friend? Please phone a friend. This is not. Hold on, hold on. Let's skip. Hey, it's Leah.

Leave a message. Let's leave a message. Let's leave a message. I can. Leah, I really need you right now. I have two assholes inside this room. She has two assholes. What are we going to do?

My burner hole. I'm trying to tell the FBI story about the naked pictures of myself. And they cannot relate to like sending very graphic photos to your partner. And I'm very alone right now. I'm feeling very vulnerable and I need you to hold me. Please call us back. I text her too. You guys.

Oh, I feel so alone. Well, you're obviously not alone. Oh, here she. Thank God. Thank God. Thank God. Hi, Leah. Oh, no, it's okay.

You're live on broad ideas. Not live. Leah, I need you desperately right now. Okay, okay. I'm sitting here with these two fuckers. Okay. I'm fucker one. And we're talking about, I told my FBI story with sex, you know, with pictures.

Hold on. Hold on. What happened? I just told the FBI story how I had to identify myself. you know, in sending indecent photos. And these two are like,

I feel there's shame in the room right now. Not even remotely. No, because none of them they have not done it or done these photos. And I'm like, you know, the one where I'm like spread eagle and I had to like identify my insides essentially.

And I'm like mortified and vulnerable. And they're like, they've never done anything that graphic. So I was like, we need to call Leah right now. Why is she mad at us though that we have it? All I said was how were you sure it was your vagina. And she said, because I know what pictures I take,

don't you take the similar pictures? And I said, no. So, Leah? Do I take those pictures? Yes. Right. Of course I have. You know I have.

Yeah, I know. I needed you because they made me feel like, oh, how indecent of me. No. No, we didn't. No, we didn't, though. She's just being weird. She's been a breath.

Yeah, Pratt. Yes, I have the most disgusting in my favorite photos on my first. of my vagina. And they're still on your phone? Yeah. Do you ever recycle? No. You know why I don't worry?

Of course I recycle. Yeah. Do you know why I don't worry? Why? Because you can hide them. Oh, yes. In an account. And in order to open that account and needs your faith.

No, that's a new feature and I'm very grateful for it. So once that came, I was like, Oh, she thinks Jeff. as hidden pictures? I'm like, what if, like, no, I don't, but like, it just, like, scared me for some reason. Yeah, no, there's hidden. No, it's good for your children. You can't have them seeing stuff. Yeah, like, because Jacob and then they steal my phone all the time. So it's a great feature. So there's a new feature before you used to be able to just go and select it and open it without anything, but now it needs your face to open your hidden photos. I'm very grateful, very grateful for this feature. Even before it needing

your face, I just had it in the hidden folder. Of course. Yes, yes, yes, of course. Does it have vagina recognition. Huh. I doubt it, but I sure recognize it. Yeah, you'd be able to like tell. And yeah, they're very incriminating, horrible, very personal photos. That's very personal.

It's very personal. But like, in like a very loving, committed relationship where you can share everything. Okay, here's my question. Leah's like, no. I do have a question. When you're sending pictures. of the inside of your woman.

Vajajol. Are these solicited, unsolicited? Do people ask for this? Or do you just like, hey, what's up? The inside? They're asked for. I would not unsolicitedly send an inside picture in my bowl. That's my opener.

No. No. Yeah. No, it's like, you know, they're requested. Yeah, like if you're like sexting and your partner and you're sending. photos. I love how you keep saying your partner. It's so cute. Well, Leah's like, I send it.

Leah, you don't understand the room I'm in right now. She's on a group text. I'm like it. A lot of people do. Wait, why are you? I think what's happening here is you're shaming us for not. No, absolutely not. You guys are, I shared something very personal. Always saying, if you're in your relationship, you don't have to be in a relationship. Always said as we did. I know. I've sent pictures without being in a relationship, of course. I keep saying everyone has, but apparently that's not true. But I feel like you're mad at me. I'm a little mad. And to be honest, the lesser the relationship, the ronty or the picture in my experience.

Yeah, I can feel that. Yeah. I mean, what's that about? What's that about? It's like, you know, because when you're with somebody for a while, it's like they don't really care to see a picture of the inside of the vagina because they see it. it all the time and they're really used to it. And so it's like, why would they ask for it? Whether it's like somebody like new or like something more new and fun, they're like, yeah. But doesn't that make you feel weird? Like the someone new is like, let me see the inside of your

vagina. Like that, I don't know, it feels a little vulnerable. I don't think it's literally like, let me see the inside of your vagina. But if you're like, it's definitely not like that. Can you walk us through what it's like? You're sexting, then you send a tit. And then they're like, oh my god that's so hot show me more and then you're like okay and then you go full and then they're like oh my god I want to see your puffy and then you're like okay you know just a just a regular Tuesday yeah but that's I think heavily relatable yes yeah of course and that's why I'm so happy we have you you are like no now I got to go back to work okay well we love you thank you Leah I really needed you in this moment. I love you.

We love you and appreciate you. Now I feel like I should call someone that I need. My priest. I love you. Bye. Do you think there's anything to what she said, the lesser the relationship, the more often that happens?

And if I'm being honest, because I've had pictures leaked or whatever, hacked, I think I'm in a little bit of a different Right. Position. Yeah, you out of the equation. Which position is it? Doggy style.

Now, I'm wondering more if you think people are more willing to get in a relationship with people that aren't doing that because of... I think that's too much thinking. I think... No. No. And not enough. Let me show. Let me tell you.

No, I think it's too much thinking because, like, you put so much on it. Like, I have a friend who's like, don't sleep with him for... a month and dead to, I'm like, but can't you just, like, go with the flow and see what happens naturally?

I'm not saying that you're consciously thinking that when you send it. I'm just saying if it, if the trend is you're doing this to people that you have, you care less about. Mm-hmm. Do you think subconsciously that's happening? And I'm like,

oh, if this person's willing to send me this, they're not relationship material. No, I don't, I don't have those thoughts because I know myself works. Yeah, but like when we had Bobby Leon and he was showing us

the picture. He said the same thing. Yeah. And we were just kind of like... She was willing to send me that. So, he was turned off by it. That was literally he met someone on a dating app and within the first way. Well, that's sort of what we're saying. No, I don't do that.

I would never do that. No one's saying you do that. Oh, what are you asking me? He's saying, do you think there's wheat to that? Like, that it's usually in the beginning. Yeah, you don't want to reveal too much... No, no. I'm just saying you think people are judging one. Right. Like, I can... This can't be a serious thing because she's sending me...

Explicit photos. I think it's probably a generational thing. It's generational. It's also like circumstance to circumstance. Circumcision? Yeah. I think it could be like you're really connecting with someone. You've been on a couple dates and you send like a sexy photo.

I don't think that means like, oh, she's not relationship material. The inside of your vagina. Oh, yeah, no, I don't do that. I'm not saying you. But when you're like a couple dates... I'm just relating it to myself. You've just connected in Raya. That's usually your opener.

I open with my open vagina. I'm saying you go on a couple dates with someone and you send them a sexy photo is not the same as like... Yeah, no. It would take... Yeah. I see what you're saying.

Let's scenario. You meet a guy. Yeah. You guys talking a little bit. Yeah. And then just randomly a dick pick. That's a turnoff. I've had a problem with that before.

Yeah, that's a turnoff. So that's what I'm asking. If that's a warning sign, not if you guys are, like, been talking for a while. Right, right, right. I don't think, like, if it leads to, like, sexting because you guys are having fun, that's one thing. And I'm like, okay. But if you straight up get, like, you know, get sent a pick like that. Dick bombed?

Yeah, dick bombed. That happened to me once. What? Did I say this? And Leah has gotten dick bombed quite a bit. Well, I got it, and he sent it to me. And I realized, like, he had a tattoo somewhere. in the picture. There was no tattoo.

Oh, it was a recycle? And I was like, what makes you think I would want to see that? And he was like, oh, I thought you'd want to see that. And I was like, but it clearly You actually called him out. Yeah, I did. Because I was like, it was clearly for someone else because you don't have your tattoo in the picture. Yeah. So this is old. Like, you took this picture. Does Jeff have a trance down? Were you sure it was his penis? You went to that was... It was hit a picture of him. Oh, his face was...

Yeah, his whole shabang. and I said, what makes you think I want to see that? You don't even have that haircut anymore. Like, that's you at 20, you know? Weird. Right? Like, he just has that on standby.

Is it like a boudoir shoot? He has that on standby. No, I have used, like, repeats before if I have, because if I have some in my phone. Question, have you ever... If it's someone that I don't really... Have you ever sent the same picture to multiple people? That's what she said.

That's what I'm saying. A recycle. Well, recycle. Recycle could have been that you... No, recycle. Like, if I have... I have had a photo, but then I tell them. Oh, you do?

I did. I haven't done it much, but I remember the time I did. I was like, can you walk us through telling them? Yeah. Just so you know, that wasn't for you? Well, I just, you know what? Because the person that it was with was like also my friend for a really long time, so it wasn't like weird. It was funny.

So it's like, oh, this is. I'm sure he thought so. He was laughing. Yeah. I forget how it came up. But I was like, yeah, no, it's a recent. cycle. What were you doing sending those pictures to someone

you were friends with them? I would have hoped that's something romantic was happening. No, I just do that to my friends. I send to you all the time. You do send those good ones. I do send, yeah, I do. I have to send like, I need my, you know, my, my, they get them first

sometimes, not all the time. Oh, you see it first. You send them to her before you send them to a guy? I send Olivia and Leah picture sometimes. Yeah. And ask what? Not always first either. I'll just be like, I said this. Are you looking for feedback? Are you having them pick? That was good. Thank you. Yeah, if you're like proud of one, you're like, hey, guys.

What's fun? Because, you know, when you dress up and like whatever, we have fun getting them because it's like fun, you know. Yeah. Do you ever put laundry on for Jeff? Yeah. You do? Yeah. And I've thought that I should say. it to you guys and I never have. Oh yeah. You should. It's fun. Yeah. It's a fun thing we girls do and guys, whoever.

It's fun. I have fun with it. You should have fun with it. Yeah, it is fun. Not fun when you have to identify yourself. That is not fun. Well, thanks for sharing that. That was a beautiful story. Oh, but you never answered how you feel about clubs.

I do think it's a little interesting that they have different nights for different things, right? Like, people have these fetishes. Like... Clearly, I keep it interesting. Yeah. Like, what... Like, she was saying, like, rubber night.

There was... Lesser night. Lesbian night. Lesbian night. Hmm. Huh. I mean, it definitely piques my interest just because I'm like, well, what even is it?

But I don't... How do you feel about voyeurism? What is that? Watching. Oh, that's the term for it? Well, it's watching some of that does a word. know. Oh.

Watching someone that doesn't know, that feels very creepy. Or having someone watch you. Like, does the thought of that do anything for you? You're staying in New York, you got a hotel. They got a building next to you. He's got a bunch of windows. Rob loves to do the story. He does, but he never answers any of them.

He just likes to. He's such a producer, though. He's like, okay, you walk in the room. Yeah. What? And you see someone having sex in the hotel room across the way? Or do you close your blinds and run away? I mean, I think it's a little like, oh, shit.

Like, you know? And you're like, but I would get uncomfortable. And I wouldn't feel right watching. Would you? I mean, I've done it a few times. I feel like it would depend on. See, this is what I'm saying. I feel like it would depend on who it is.

Like, there's certain people I would be inclined to want to look. Yeah. I think there's like a hotel in New York that people specifically go to to do that. What is that wrong? What's the hotel? I don't remember. I don't know what it is. When you go to New York, yeah, stay there.

See if it does anything for you. But I think it's very like public facing and people purposely go there and do that and they get off on it. It's a huge thing, voyeurism. Like it's a huge part of life. Like a fetish. And not just sexually, just like on all levels. Like people can... Like a rear window?

Yeah. Yeah. Hmm. I mean, yeah, I get that. Like, you have a neighbor and whatever. Forbidden. I guess. Forbidden.

Okay. Let's talk about that for a second. Let's go. Yeah, like, do you find it more attractive when something's forbidden in any area? Does it never one? I mean, I guess so. You think that's kind of a common thread? Mm-hmm.

Yeah. it's just it's different i think that's probably more where that comes from is that it's unexpected do you yeah i think what you can't have it's like you know i mean listen it's written in the bible isn't it is it the original sin yeah oh sure like i am doing this i think it's like that's like what every isn't that the premise of every single porn out there. Noddy, naughty. I don't think every single porn is that, but... But you know what I'm saying. Like, that's like, oh, it's so wrong. Yeah, it's so wrong is definitely attractive. Are you feeling that in your hands right now? My hands are away. My palms are

hurting. They're aching. Huh. Yeah. I mean, it's definitely... Oh, yeah, the forbidden fruit. That's the Bible. Adam and Eve, right? It's like a whole thing. It's like a whole thing. whole ring. And now shall not covet the... Thy neighbors. Yeah. Window while they're making love. Yeah.

Thy neighbors. I mean, there's ethical dilemma there, obviously. What? Watching voyeurism. If someone's got their window open and you can see it if you watch or do not watch. But who do you think that falls on? The person watching or the person doing it in front of an open window? I mean, it's the person watching, but there's some responsibility to the person that

I think that isn't it like illegal if someone like I remember like if you're performing you know oral sex or something like on your partner in your home and someone can see it it's illegal it's illegal. What am I making that up? What the heck are you talking about? It's illegal to do the oral sex if someone can see it. If it's in your home I'm sure you can't like in a car or at the park. Rachel's like they're always like. They're always. He's telling me to stop. But like, I mean, they're saying like, oh, that's kind of on you. Like if you have an open window and you're like, hey, we're going to have like a little

orgy right here, then that might not be cool. I could see where that's a problem. If big open windows and the front of your house that all your neighbors can see in. Have you ever been somewhere where that kind of stuff is. gone down. What do you mean? Like, you see someone? Like, oh, this is an orgy party or like, oh, like you walked into an orgy party? I remember there was like a peeping Tom weird perv, like outside of our high school. Oh, yeah. Park the van and like, you know, pleasure himself with all the girls in their uniforms, like walking by. That wasn't the question. I know, but I just remember.

I remember the 7-11 down the street from my house. All right. Where's the weirdest place that you guys spend sex. With each other? Yes, with each other. I don't think I have anything really weird. It's always at home? No. Like a car's not weird. No, it's not weird.

I've been a movie theater before. What? In the movie theater? Well, I was working at the movie theater, though. How does that make it different? So there was not other people in the theater. Oh, that doesn't really. I think maybe the hospital. Excuse me?

After you had a baby? Before you had the baby. Before, like, in the call room? Excuse me? Well, Jeff used to have to go to the hospital and be on call. The call room, got it.

The call room. You guys did? You had sex in the hospital? Yeah, what's wrong? Are you shaming us? Yeah. No. Are you shaming us?

I'm just only you, Rob. We have not had sex in a room or a car only? I know. Am I so plain? I just don't remember things. I'm sure there's been other places. I just cannot recall. Outside?

For sure, outside. Backyards, pools, whatever. Front lawns. What about like Disneyland? All right, so hot tubs, pools, we talked about, you guys talked about Margaret. You know, like that? It's a little dry. Never been a fan.

I mean, I wouldn't. I like the idea of it. Yeah, it's a great idea. But it never works out that well. Yeah. Do you like it? I like the idea of it, but Natalie hates hot tops. She hates hot tops?

Oh my God, I love hot tops. She thinks they're gross. Oh, why? I don't know. But that's... Is it only if it's someone else, like, because other people are in it and being hot? I think so. But what if it's your own personal hot tub?

I mean, I really want a hot tub. Say, I have one, but... Wait, what? Does it not work? I need to get a fix. Yeah. Yeah, I'd like a hot tub. I don't have to be cold.

What about in a bathtub? Boring. But have you? Yeah. Yeah. Of course. But it's, yeah, a shower and a bathtub. Yeah.

It's too wet. It's too wet. It's too wet. I mean, I don't care. But I don't, yeah. How do you guys feel about Roadhead? Not great. I've done it since high school.

Yeah. I mean. I've seen someone doing it. while driving on the highway before. What? Oh, wow. And the guy, like, looked over and smiled. No way.

Oh, my gosh. Do you guys pleasure themselves while drive? I mean, I know they do. But, like, they do? Yeah. Oh, well, like weirdos? Or you mean regular? No, I think regular dudes.

I've never done that. I've never heard of anyone that's regular dudes doing that. I see people in my neighborhood all the time driving behind me pleasuring themselves. Does it gross you out to know that people do that to you? That's a good question It is a good question I know What?

Like does that gross you up? That's not a thing I've ever thought about That's really great You've never thought of that That like people like do that Someone got your fucking face tattooed on their body Yeah people have masturbated to you That you don't know

This is making me uncomfortable Mass amounts of people I always regretted that first photo shooting ever did. I don't like that that's out there. It's not that bad. It's not, but it just brings that up because... Okay. I did have a guy once tell me that I was dating that he remembers, like, having that spread in particular and using it. The FBI spread or that? No. The magazine. So is that something... But it was a guy was dating, so I was like, oh, that's cool. It didn't accrued that other people.

No. But do you just push that out of your head? Yeah, I don't think about a lot of things. I don't know if you know me. I do not think about it not. Okay. I don't know what that says about me, but I mean, I think

it's good that you don't think about that. It's probably helpful. It's probably really helpful and I'm really sorry that I brought it up. Yeah, now I'm traumatized. I'm sorry. How do you handle things, Rob? I spin out. No comment.

I spiral. Someone else brought that up to me the other day. They're like, listen to your theme song. That is you. Is it you? No, it was Leah. Oh. She wrote it.

Oh, gosh, you guys. All right, so you'd never go to a sex club. Do you have a fetish, Rob? You're not willing to share? You do, don't you? Not willing. No, I don't think I do. Do you have a fetish?

No, I don't think so. What constitutes? a fetish. Yeah, what does constitute a fetish? A like. Tell us about your fetish so we know what constitutes it. I don't have a fetish.

A monogamous sex is my fetish. I love being in the relationship. I love a butt plug. Wait, you do though. You just can't share. You don't want to share. You don't have any kind of

do you like role play? No? Not in particular. No. Do you love you? There's too much acting. Yeah. Yeah. That's a lot of effort.

Yeah. Do you? I haven't done it in a very long time. Can't say that I wouldn't be open to it, but I haven't done it in a very long time. Being open to something and like really liking it or two different things. Yeah, I think that's the difference between a fetish and not a fetish. I'm pretty open, clearly. Open is one thing, but fetishy is like when you obsess about it and it needs to be that way.

And like people with like buries and fuzzies and you know what I mean? like, yeah, foot fetishes. Like, that is real, dude. Our friend had a

boyfriend that had a foot fetish. Yeah. Huh. And she got French tips on her toes and we're like, why?

Yeah, because he really, because he liked the, like, toe pedicure, manicure, French manicure on the toes. So,

ladies, if your boyfriend ever likes French manicures on your toes, run. He's telling you something. Don't kink shame people now.

Oh, yeah, no, we're not kinkshame. No, I just mention. Because we didn't know the degree of what he was doing. You know what I'm saying? Listen to the infanility episode.

That's why she said it. Fair. Fair enough. Okay. Super fair. Yeah, Rob. I love messing with Rob. Love it.

Love it. That's your fetish. Messing with Rob. You don't have anything? Like fetishy? Yeah. Not that I'm aware of. Does Jeff?

Fettishy? Yeah. He's not like fetishy. Fetishy is like a different vibe. Yeah. I guess. Yeah. Well, yeah.

You look like, oh, he doesn't. No, no, no, no. No, that was your last comment. Yeah, I just don't, I'm not familiar with it. Sounds like we need to find someone that works at a sex club. I am sure. You know what? I would love to interview someone that works out of sex club if they can talk about it openly.

I'm curious. Aren't you? Absolutely. So if anyone listening. Or that's like in a... Or know someone is probably also. Yeah. I wonder if it desensitizes you.

Like when I go in to seize candy, I'm like, how do you not eat the candy all day long? And they're always like, oh, I don't even touch it. You know? Because it's always in front of you. Because it's like right in their face. Well, and if it has to just constantly escalate. What?

If you're desensitized, then it needs to escalate for it to satiate your appetite. So I wonder if they're just like, ugh, not into this anymore. I could imagine it would be a little like Burning Man. Like I remember when we went to Burning Man, we went through this naked body car wash. It was called a carcass wash where everybody's butt naked. Okay. You were butt naked? Yeah.

And Jeff. And all our friends. That's amazing. It's like, yeah, yeah. Like when you were there, it was like hot and like you were so dirty and they're like, you can go through this thing and they're going to wash you. And everybody's like dancing. It's full of bubbles and like whatever.

Dead ass sober, butt naked. We all went in and we did it. And I realized, like, I remember having this fear of him going to Burning Man. Like, oh, it's sexualized. And then going through that carcass wash, I was like, this is not sexy. Because everyone's naked. Yeah, it's like so not a thing. It's like not that sexy.

Because it's just like whatever. Just a thing. Yeah, it like took the sex out of it, really. And that's good. Yeah. You can now let Jeff go to Burning Man. Not without me. Would you ever go to Burning Man?

I don't think so. That's not my vibe. No, really, Rob. We imagine us three in the naked car wash together. Oh, my Lord. Oh, God. I would go. Yeah.

I mean, it's such a thing now and we like, you know, it's like, feel the burn, whatever. But I would go just to experience it for sure. I'd go for like a night. Yeah. If there was like a nice camper that we had. Yeah. Rob would have like the most luxurious camper.

Would you get naked in the like things like that, like a car wash, body watch? My first reaction is like, of course. But then if I think about it more, I'm like, well, wait a minute. Because you think about the pictures. Are there pictures? No. But I mean, people have phones out there.

I just mean, like, for me, I don't have to worry about, like, people taking pictures of me. My first instinct is like, yeah. But then you said that. I was like, oh, shit, wait, I have to think about those things. It sucks being famous. Yeah, you do. Oh, this was funny. So I was in a random ass middle of nowhere, Panera bread.

And these two girls, like, they were like looking, you know, and I was like, well, okay. I smiled and they came up and they were like, you really? Do people tell you you really look like Zoe Hart from Heart of Dixie? I was like, yeah. I was like, okay, maybe we'll just leave it there. And they're like, but you smile just like the sweetest smile just like her. And I was like, thanks. And they're like, wait, are you her? I was like, yeah. They're like, oh my God, because we Googled you and it said you were 41 and we're like, oh my God, she's so. old, but you've aged so well. Oh my God. How old were these girls? They were probably in their 20s. And I was like, thank you. I was like, thanks. That's so nice. I'm so happy you like the show. I was like, that's a new one. That's the first time it's been like, oh, I googled your age and you're 41. I didn't realize you were that old, but you've aged so well. You look just like you did

on the show. I was like, who tells, who says that? I don't know, but I wondered. if they, like, left and if they thought about it again or if they didn't. And that was just how they expressed themselves. Because I was kind of like, okay, cool things. I should have you like the show. I'm going to eat my bread bowl now. I want to be like, to all young ladies, it's coming for you. You know what I mean? It is. Like, all of a sudden, you wake up in your 40 and you still feel the same, right? Without, I mean, obviously, you get a little wisdom. Right. Turning forward, like, I feel better than I ever have. Same. Yeah. So why is it this like, oh, I know.

I know. It's really fucked up. It is. I don't like it. Yeah, it wasn't a great moment. But it was fine. I actually was fine with it. I was like, okay, whatever.

And you're like, I can't wait to tell Olivia and Rob about this on the podcast. My first thought was, I'm going to share this with Arbor audience. So I did. So that was my little fan running, you guys. So shout out. Do you remember their names? They didn't tell me their names. Rachel always does that too

Whenever we're somewhere And they're like, you look like She just lets them think She looks like her She'll be like, I know And I'm like, I want to be like It's her Because I want to give them that like excitement

If they ask, I tell them I know but a lot of times They're just like There's a really funny story of Kailin and I Years ago We were like in Forever 21 or something And I guess someone like recognized me

And she went up to Kaylin because I was with her and was like, is that, you know, Rachel, whatever? And Caitlin was like, no, thank you. Because she thought she said, do you need any help? Like she didn't hear what she actually said. So she was just like, no, thank you. And we died laughing. We still laugh about it to this day.

That's what I'm going to start saying now. No, thank you. When they say that, I'll be like, no, thank you. Yeah. When we went to that Chappelle concert. What? When we went and saw Chappelle at the Hollywood Bowl. Yeah.

The Hollywood Bowl. Oh, you and I went. Yeah. And we kept saying your name very loudly so that people would. Nobody knows my name, Rob. Especially not at Chappelle. That's silly.

You're just being coy. Not no one, but like definitely not a majority of people at Chappelle's show. I don't know. You know what? When I think of Chappelle fans, I think of O.C. fans, because those go hand in hand. Same kind of wit.

18,000 people there, the majority of them know. I don't like, can we get off this topic? I don't like it. Okay. Well, guys, anyone out there working in a sex club, please hit Rob up. His phone number is. At Olivia Allen, 3, 3. No.

Really, though, find Rob, Wobbywob on Instagram and hit him up. Or go to the broad ideas page. Okay, fine. Write to broad ideas. Right to broad ideas. And let us know. Thanks, everybody. That was a hate gum podcast.