Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - Mary Beth Barone on Overcompensating

Episode Date: May 26, 2025

Rachel and Olivia chat with comedian and actor Mary Beth Barone about friendship breakups, the current stand-up comedy scene and finding inspiration for Overcompensating. Check out Mary Beth on Overcompensating on Amazon Prime! Watch this episode on YouTube here!Like the show? Rate Broad Ideas 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts and SpotifyAdvertise on Broad Ideas via Gumball.fm See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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She really is. Great. I want to hang out with her. the time. Okay. Why don't you hear our conversation now? Does your daughter want to be in the biz? Oh, God. Have you talked about this before? I mean, no, I don't think we've actually really talked. We've talked about her joy for performance. She loves to perform. Like, for sure she has the the gene, the bug. I mean, her dad's an after too, so we're kind of doomed. But I will say, I would never let her pursue it. Like, my parents wouldn't let me pursue it until after high school.

So, you know, it'd be the same kind of thing. Do you think it's epigenetic? Did it did your neck from no? Are your parents funny? Well, my parents are funny. My dad wanted to be a comedian, but he was from a strict Italian family. So my grandma said you could be a doctor or a lawyer. Sure. So he chose doctor and his brother chose lawyer. And I think I think if he was allowed to pursue it, he would have. But I probably would have never been born. So I guess I'm thankful in that sense that. I don't think my parents would have had six kids. if my dad was a comedian and I'm the sixth. You're the youngest of six? Yeah. Holy shit. Yeah. So I'm thankful for all the choices they made. But they never know.

We're never in the biz. And so, yeah, I really had to claw my way in here to the headgum studio. Yeah, you've made it. I got here on my own. But your dad must be so proud. He is really proud. They definitely, like my family is very supportive, which I think is maybe surprising to some people because some of my comedy is kind of crass.

And like in the new show on Amazon, like I have to, I'm, there's some like sex scenes and stuff, but I think they're good at separating the art from the artists. So they're like, that's just the work. Yeah. So I think there's still a market for your dad. Because let me tell you, my husband's a doctor and he watches dad joke videos like you wouldn't believe. Really? And I was like, that's such like a niche audience. Like imagine your dad at his age, a doctor doing dad jokes.

Dad, Dr. Jokes. It's a big community. It's a big community. There could be an audience there. He did retire, so I think, you know, a career pivot. Anything's possible. A YouTube channel. I think so. He could become an influencer. He really could. What if he did? I would be so proud of him, honestly. I think it's cool when I see older people embracing social media and technology. And I really feel for them because I think it's probably so confusing.

like one of my aunts creates a new Instagram every time she logs in because she doesn't understand that you can just log in with the same credentials. And I'm like, of course. That is really funny. The concept of explaining that. And also I think getting like text messages from politicians. But like we know that's like it's a mass text. Yeah.

But for someone to get a text, hi, it's John Ossoff. And you don't know that like you're like, wait, he's reaching out. Right. So I found me. He found me. He has my phone number. I wish John Alsuff had my phone number. But I do give people a lot of credit who are modernizing because I think it must be really hard. It's really hard. Every time I face time my mom, it's never on her. It's literally looking at the tree and the sky. Yeah, of course. They can't figure it out. It must be really trippy, though, to go from, like, phone numbers that are like three digits to now being able to do a video call with your offspring and grandchildren. I know. It's pretty bizarre.

So before we were recording, we were talking about, like, being jealous of your kids. I have no kids, but I know I'd be jealous. She's already jealous of her onboard children. Exactly. They're so young. It's not fair. But yeah, but there's nothing like that. So it's an example, like your dad's not jealous.

He's super supportive. Right. Totally. Or is he? Or is he? Maybe he's waiting until I get back to have that conversation. He's like, you took my dream from me. No, I think I would be proud of my kids if they,

But then, yeah, I don't know. They would be young. But what about your sibling? Like, am I jealous of them? Sure. I think we all have chosen what we want to do in life, and I don't, I'm not jealous of any of them, which is healthy. Does everybody do different things? Everybody does different things, and my sisters are, like, two, they're two, like, spaces in the family above me.

So it's boy, girl, girl, boy, boy, girl. So I don't, we never had, we were never competitive with each other because they were just so much older. Yeah. They were more like parental figures as opposed to because I feel like some sister dynamics are like very unhealthy. Yeah. And and bad. And so I feel lucky I didn't have that. They were just like supportive.

Yeah. How many years difference? I don't remember because it's so hard with all the ages, but I know my oldest sibling is 11 years older than me. Got it. So it's like they all cascade down. Right. That's so many kids. So many kids.

Well, I feel like you kind of have to end up. funny, right? Because you have to be scrappy in a sense. And where, like, how do your parents even get to you at that point? It was, it was always a battle. But when you look at home videos, like, it all makes sense. Like, I started performing from a young age and wanting that, like, attention. But I never really pursued it. I thought, like, I don't know, I wanted to be a Disney kid, but I had no way of doing that. So I was just like, I guess that's just not going to happen for me. And it didn't. But it wasn't like I was in any school plays. Like, I didn't even put that effort in. Yeah, I just was like, it'll happen. I'll get scouted at the mall or something.

But I didn't. So I had to wait until my 20s to then start doing comedy and stuff. So how that all happened? Well, I was, I lived in New York and I was working for like a startup and I just wanted a hobby. So I signed up for improv. And then improv was so fun. The classes like really were the highlight of my week. So I decided to start writing jokes down and get prepared to do an open mic. And that was when, yeah, that was when things really took a turn. So wild. I just wanted, I was like, wait, this is what I want to do. And then to have the level of delusion to like actually make that your job is, I look back and I'm like, I'm proud of myself for believing that I could do it. Yeah. But it's kind of scary to think that I like did that. It's crazy. It's crazy. There's

nothing scary to me and I have said this before, but like stand up is. It's psychotic. I know. I know. It's unhealthy. It's bad. It's bad. It's really bad for you. It's really bad for you. But you're killing it. Thank you. So how is it bad? I mean, like you're an example of it working out. Which is then setting a bad example for others because then you're like, maybe I could do it.

But I think it's like the schedule is so unhealthy. The people you meet are not necessarily. I have a lot of peers in comedy that I love. Yeah. All the gay guys and the women and the non-binary people. But then there's the straight guy contingent that's such a big part of it. And so you're in confined spaces with them. You're having to have conversations with them.

That can be really scary. And then just like, it's at night. So you can't have dinners with people. You're missing crucial sleep hours. Your whole schedule gets sort of turned upside down. And just sacrificing personal relationships because that's what you have to do to be successful, I think. Oh, I thought you were going to say because of the jokes. And the jokes, too.

Well, I made some mistakes early on. And now I talk to my friends before I do jokes about them because it's not worth it. Right. Have you lost friends because of jokes? I didn't. I'm trying to think. I had written jokes about my ex-best friend who was already my ex-best friend. But she got mad that I wrote the jokes after the fact. So, I mean, that was already. But like, kind of who cares? She, ex-best friend. Yeah. What happened? Let's hear about it. I mean, okay, so I won't get too much in the weeds. We did try to reconcile in 2020, which was a huge mistake. But we were best friends.

since we were babies. And then I think when we were in our early 20s, we just went, we just completely diverged. She also moved to Florida in middle school, which I think was very formative. And so then when we were growing into adulthood, we just like did not have the same, like, I don't, I don't know how to describe it, like fundamentals of like what we wanted our lives to be. And so we had a huge falling out. And then, yeah, we didn't speak for years. And then in 2020, I was like, let's, I don't want to have this bad energy out there. And it turns out sometimes the bad energy just has to stay out there. Oh, wow.

Yeah. So, but I think of her and I hope she's well. And I have a few ex-best friends. Like none that were as long as that, like, experience. We were friends for so long. But do you guys have ex-best friends? I feel like most women do. Yeah.

Women and gay guys. Yeah. But do you have current best friends? I have lost friends. She's like, has no more friends. Done with every bridge. They're only ex-best friends. I have a big group of friends from high school.

And then I have my comedy friends. I have friends from my first job. Like, I have a lot of friends and I feel very lucky. So I don't feel like there's like a void in my life of friends. Right. And I actually think in your 30s, in your late 20s is when you should start cutting people out of your life. Because when you get to your 30s, there are so many, like, life-altering events that happen. And if you're holding space for too many people, it's just like you can't take care of yourself.

Right. So wait until you get to your 40s. Yeah. Woo. Oh, my God. Talk about weeding people out. Tell me. Tell me. It's more cut. Let us look into our crystal ball of the future and tell you that you have no time for anybody.

Yeah. Yeah. That's good to know, actually. But in a positive way, too, you don't put up with the same things you would in the past because you have more of a assurance and your life is bigger. So you're like, I only have a limited amount of time. Where am I going to put that? Right. And so everything kind of gets weeded out. It's nice. It's great. And people fall. if naturally you think or do you have to have conversations? Naturally. That's good. I think naturally.

I just ghost everything. Yes, you ghost. And that's easy. Sometimes there's combos. Sometimes there's convos. Who are you thinking of that you fell out with? I named them. You mean currently?

I, well, I mean, you don't know who I'm talking about? No. This is also what happens? Like you have no brain left once you get to your point. I had someone I was super close with for a very long time. Okay. And then... It's Rachel.

I have something to say. It's us, yeah. No, this is good to know because I've already been practicing sort of, yeah, just not fizzling people out, but like you just have less time. Yeah. You have less time. And so if you hang out with people one-on-one, you want those interactions to be really meaningful and saving time for those people that you like have a strong connection with. And I'm as a comedian, I have a lot of friends with mental illness. So it's a lot of people.

So it's going to be. No, it's, I mean, they would say it. too and I know we we all we all have it yeah they'll have at least a taste of it I only laugh because you said being friends with comedians a lot of mental illness they're all so ill I know but that's why but that's why we do what we do it's it's a coping it's a way to feel validation and love and when you don't yeah when your personal life feels like it's out of control you can get on stage and people clap for you feels good huh amazing because the whole reason it's the best yeah But it is definitely a strain on on your personal life and and traveling.

I mean, and working on remote jobs and touring and all. I mean, I'm sure you guys know. It's like, it's hard to like. It's hard to tour. Tor and it's hard to have a family. Like, it's hard to. Yeah, no, it's really juggling that is down. What about dating?

Dating. I, no comment. Oh. So we're going to go in on that. Dating is very difficult. For many, I mean, it's difficult for everyone. Sure. And then you add in the fact that you're not really in one place for very long.

And then it becomes even harder. And then if you have two creatives in a relationship, then it's like, that's exponentially more difficult. And I think even with writing jokes, like I've been in relationships in the past where I wrote a joke that like upset the person I was dating. Yeah. But for me, comedy, I'm sort of like, I am married to my job right now. So I think you have to just be really comfortable with the fact that sometimes there will be jokes. about you and if you don't want jokes to be written about you then just be a better partner it's really just on them so yeah just try that and then i'll have to draw from other parts of my life

yeah but it is it is hard it's it's i dated a lot of comedians for a while just to like do maximum self-harm but i'm really out of the woods on that one just get a lot of material and get a lot of material yes but they're not good partners lovers um you know mixed Depends on the person. It depends on the sides of their dick. Yeah, exactly. And what they do with it. And that's universal, I would say. That's universal. Yeah. Yeah. It's so interesting because every female comedian we've had, I feel like, has touched upon the toxicity of the men in comedy, which I find strange only because I think they're so funny, right? Like, I get that all funny people have a dark side. All people have a dark side, period. Right. But what do you think that culture lends itself to with the toxicity for the men? So imagine someone that never had sex growing up. Like they weren't popular. They were losers. They didn't have friends. They had nothing positive in their lives. You put them on stage. People are clapping for them. They're laughing. I like it. So right on. And then all of a sudden they go, wait, am I God? And then they say, well, if I'm God, I guess they can do anything.

thing and then they do that and it's like it is all of us feed into the culture of it and myself included because it's like girls DM them you're so funny you're so hot like being funny makes you hotter so for men at least for women very much the opposite um and so you're you're constantly feeding their ego and then they can have sex with whoever they want and then it's just this yeah I mean I understand why they get this god complex because everyone's telling them how amazing they are all the time yeah yeah I think you're so right though because I think number one if like a dude can make you laugh it's number one a lot of the time yeah yeah many many people yeah and i completely understand it's like there is like you you feel like intoxicated when you're

around a funny person and you just want them to like shine their light on you but they just they have so many people that want that from them so i think it's probably hard too for them to like deal with that mentally but go to therapy because i'm in therapy everyone We're trying to figure it out. Trying to figure it out. Got to do the work. But you said, but then if women are funny. If women are funny, it's just totally different.

I think if you're dating men and you're a funny woman, they can feel like threatened or like they want to be the funny one. Also, I have found with men, like, they don't want to acknowledge that you're funny sometimes. And I will say I've dated a lot of men who are very secure in themselves and they can let me be the funny one. But I've been texting with guys before where I'll say something so obviously funny. And they can't even just give me the ha-ha-ha. What? They just want to, like, add their own little joke or like an ego. They just answer it seriously.

Like, I'm like, just hold it down. Just add the ha ha ha. Just reaction. You got it. They can't do it. Can't do it. That's interesting. Yeah.

Oh. Oh. It's really, it's a fascinating, yeah, dynamic that we've created. Well, it's also a sign of intelligence. So it sparks that part of them where they're like, wait a minute, she's smarter than I am. Well, because it takes. smarts to be that quick, right? Being funny, you have to be smart.

We were just talking about this. Yeah. The comedian brain fires off faster in the average folk. The specific, like, detailed callbacks, you know? Like, it's just like a different skill. Yeah, and I think when you

practice it, you get better at it and quicker, but then sometimes, like, if Benny and I are hanging out and we're just going so fast back and forth. Is that your best friend? Yeah, it's my best friend. He created this. show compensating. I think sometimes people like I look at them and they're confusion of just like they can't. Yeah, of course. And that obvious, if you're not around that a lot, I, it can probably be like

exhausting to have that energy, but it's so fun. Like I just, we just have so much fun. Yeah. And there's like that sort of other language that we have now just because we hang out so much. Right. Yeah. And so that's fun. But I could see if a straight guy being around us, yeah, I don't know what that experience because it's it's our world and they're just living in it right yeah right and then you bring like a boyfriend into that like you're saying like and that's a whole thing i mean also just having to be responsible for bringing a straight man into a social interaction like there is a level of anxiety because you're like what are they going to say right or what's the reference they're not going to get or like what thing are they going to keep poking that i'm like just shut up you know so that's

really hard too. I don't know if you, yeah, do you guys experience that? Like, I mean, I think I experienced that with anyone bringing anyone anywhere. Seriously, like what, how is this person going to be? You know? Yeah, totally. I don't think it's just singled out to like a dude you bring right or whatever. No, it's true. I think we experience, we definitely have our own language. We've gotten to the point where we can pretty much... Notchos. Halpinia is on the side. Like, we can communicate through our eyes, through our callbacks, through all the memories, everything, and then you bring a guy into it.

However, I will say, we despise a guy that doesn't get it. That's untenable. It's okay if they're not funny, but, like, you have to get the funny. It's actually not that okay if they're not funny. No, I'm just saying, but... It's actually not. It's actually not okay. As long as they get the fucking joke.

Like the ha-ha. I know. Fucking click the ha-ha. And even if you don't fully get it and you see all of us laughing, you just laugh. Just laugh. No, but I think there's something off in a relationship. If you say something that's really funny, you know it, she knows it, I know it, and he doesn't. You know, I have dated a couple guys in the past that are so sensitive that they don't laugh.

Not only do they not laugh, they're like, you're mean. Yeah. There's nothing more. Okay, the two biggest things that I get from guys that I never get from women or gay men is that I'm bossy and that I'm mean. Right. So I dated a British guy for a while and British people are so polite. You know, they just don't, they don't like jab. I mean, maybe they do. I don't know if this was, but basically my family and I, like, we tease each other. That's how we show affection, show love. We're like, and sometimes it's like ruthless, but we're just laughing about it at the end of the day. And I found that he was so mystified by that fact. He was like, you guys fight and you're mean to each other. And I'm like, yeah, we like love each other. We know, it's because we know each other so well.

Right. Like we know how to push each other's buttons. And I would say things to him where it would be like so obviously a joke. And we got in a fight one time because he was steaming broccoli. And it was just a really small amount of broccoli. And I was like, oh, like. that might be too much. Like, I just made a stupid joke that was like, it's funny.

It's just like about the broccoli. Like, I don't know. Like, there might be too much broccoli. Yeah, like, it was just something so stupid and like offhanded about like, oh, you know. Right. That's the whatever. I don't even remember exactly how I said it, but it was something to do with the quantity of the broccoli. And oh my God, it was one of our biggest fights we ever had.

What? Because he was just like, why would you comment on that? Like he felt you were criticizing. Yeah. Oh, come on. No, it was just a joke. And he was like, I just don't think that's funny. Like, why are you criticism?

Because I'm cooking broccoli for you. And so why would you like make a comment about it? I'm like, it's because it's two stocks. I'm like, that's funny to me. That's really funny. It's a comical amount of broccoli. It's like. And you're steaming it.

And you're steaming it in a pot. No one's ever done that. This is the first ever in history. You're the first of your kind. Two stocks. And so, but yeah, things like that would come up a lot. See, that's someone who's too sensitive and takes some. themselves too seriously. Yeah. And I think I actually think over time we got to a place where he was

more comfortable with jokes like that, but it would always surprise me what would really like what he would internalize. Right. Because that's not. And then it's, but the comment back to that is like, oh, well, there's truth in every joke. And I'm like, the truth is it's a small amount of broccoli. Right. That's the truth. That's the truth. It's not any, I'm not speaking to you as like a man or anything. I also don't think there's truth in every joke. Just like I don't think people get drunk and say what they really mean. I'm like, no, you're drunk. That's so funny. There's not truth in every joke. I don't like that rule. This is, what I mean? No, when you're drunk, it just takes away the inhibition to say what you feel in the moment. It's not like you've been

storing some past thing you want to say and then you get drunk and it takes it away. It's like if in the moment I think you're being a bitch, it's not like I've thought you were a bitch this whole time and I got drunk and said it. It's that your inhibition goes, same with jokes. Sometimes it's just a low-hanging fruit or low-hanging broccoli. You know what I'm saying? In that case. Yeah. Well, I'm curious what you guys think about this.

I've been grappling with this for a bit in relationships. So I have control issues, and I'll say that up front. But I do think that sometimes a genuine concern for someone's safety gets spun into being me trying to be controlling. So if I say, like, I think vaping is disgusting and I don't want you to vape in front of me, someone can twist that to be you're being controlling. Or if I'm like, I think you should wear a helmet when you ride a city bike. It's like, well, you're being controlling.

And I'm like, but that doesn't count as being controlling. See, I feel like you're just being considerate. Right? That's not controlling. But that's such a tough. Someone's manipulating you to think that you're being controlling. Right. I say to my husband, you have two things.

Two things. That's it. Nothing that does harm to yourself. Or sex with other words. women. Outside of that, do whatever you want. So that means no vaping. That means wear a helmet. That means no penis in a vagina. Right. That's simple. That's not controlling. Right? I don't think it is. No guys. You see you can fuck you. He really wants. Yeah. No big cheese. I just think there is that like, and also weaponizing therapy speak. I hate. But I'm like, no, I just, I don't want you to,

I just think it's a bad habit. I think it's disgusting. Right. not attracted to that. But then it's, oh, you're being controlling. No. No, it's gross. And you die from it. Sorry. It's like, am I being crazy here? No, you're not. But then it's, oh, you're being bossy or whatever. So I have really struggled with that. If this is someone you're dating right now, no, this is like many, a collection of many past experiences that have led me to draw these conclusions that I just think, like, straight men, I'm just a lot to handle for straight guys. But does it make you get in your head to like the next relationship? these past experiences, does it put you in your head? Like, oh, was that controlling or, oh,

am I criticizing and it's not funny? You know? Absolutely. Yeah. It creates these fucking neuroses. And yeah, and then you're like, oh, God. Like, I'm, I'm then like replaying conversations and being like, oh, was that like, was that, was it mean or am I? Because then it's that thing of like, you ask them to like do the laundry and it's like that can be like I'm being bossy. I'm like, that's not the same. I didn't know we were. We were allowed to ask that. There's not truth to every joke, and you can ask your partner to do laundry. Well, maybe you can.

I don't know. I don't know what the straight male response would be, but yeah, I feel like, I just feel like women who are, I mean, how are you guys like the alpha in your relationships? No. Really? Mm-mm. The one I can refer to as my long term, definitely not. What? No.

No. You're not the boss? I'm the boss, and I am. But not. Wait, this is spinning me out. But I'm not attracted to a guy I can take over. Okay. That doesn't do it for me.

Yeah, I'm the same way. Interesting. Yeah, I guess there's like a healthy balance, but ultimately I would like to be in charge. Oh, you would. See, that turns me off in a major way. I don't like it. You're not attracted to me anymore. No. I'm really not.

No, I'm attracted to you now because you're alpha. Few. I just think straight men, I don't know. I guess I don't want to generalize all of them. There's many different shades of straight men. I just think, yeah, I would want to be, I want to, like, run the house. I don't want the guy to run the house. I mean, I think women run the house.

Like, not women, I don't want to generalize, but, like, I would run the house. Like, I make sure shit's done, you know, laundry, food, all of it. But kid, all of that gets handled. But I think at its core is like the man of the quote unquote house, when it was a shared house, was definitely like the alpha meal. Yeah. But I do, yeah, but I do run the house. Like he doesn't even know what goes on with the money. Like that's all under my control.

Right? But to me, that's you being, like, that feels like you're in charge. If you control the money. I think what it is is we actually are always in charge but you just manipulate them to make them believe that they're the ones in charge

and they listen on the podcast and they listen they're in charge exactly they're the alpha daddy gets his slippers when he walks in the door and you smoke

you have a cigar waiting for him I do every night think about heterosexual marriages he smokes a cigar he watches sports in the man cave while he gets his bed And I know exactly what you mean by that You heard it

I do think too like for households Where it's like you know two women or two men Like it's not like oh one is the guy and one is the girl But of course like those roles Maybe they're spread throughout so it's not so definitive But I am curious too I would love to see more studies of like Just modern marriages

We hear all about the divorces I want to know what's going on in the ones that interesting that are are lasting you guys i heard a staggering statistic okay this is from this is a statistic at the world health organization this is real this isn't off a tick talk okay okay okay this is verified from the people that are doing it only about 25% of women in their late 40s to 50s are sexually active what bucking Period. What was the percentage? 25% of the whole world?

Only? This is the world health. I mean, I don't want to be misquoted, so we might need to take that out. But this is at a global conference. Yeah. It's at a global conference. Yeah. So it's real. You know those global conferences. It's a Starbucks conference. Wait, that is, aren't sexually active? Yeah.

But like, why? 25% are sexually active. Aren't. Okay. No, no, no, no. I'm sorry. Are. Okay. Right. Only 25% are sexually active. Well, what happens? Because you lose your...

Her hormones crash. But you don't have sex? Scary, right? I don't like it. Isn't that wild? That is crazy. And men, it's 100% are sexually active. Yeah, that's a statistic I would like to compare. Yeah. Wow. Yeah, I didn't get that one fed to me.

Interesting. They just think it's assumed that they're all shagging as my British ex would say. I see, yeah. Wow, 25% that, I don't even, I mean, I don't even know what's going to happen. No one's, no one's dating anymore. No one's getting married. People are not having babies. It's just like everything's on the decline. And I was thinking about, you know, there's so many factors that go into why that is. I think like there's more anxiety, depression. There's less like places to meet people. But also just like people can't afford to date. It is so expensive to go out to like, if you're in L.A., you're Ubering to and from and then you're paying for drinks or a dinner. And it's like, I could do that or I could. watch TV. I hear you. And TV, that's, you know, how much is a Mac subscription? I don't even know, but my parents pay for it. I'm watching right now. I'm doing a rewatch of Sex and the City, which fun. Because it's happening right now, I have talked about it in almost every interview I've done. I'm a lot of promo for Sex in the City, but I'm... Like OG Sex in the City. OG, yeah. Yeah. I think of in just like that as like a totally different show. I haven't even seen it.

I've never seen it. I don't know that I can. I don't know that you should. I appreciate that. I enjoy it for the clothes, and it's in New York, and I love the characters. But I do think of it as, like, if you don't think of them as related in any way, you can enjoy in just like that. Okay, okay. But I'm in the Alexander Petrovsky phase. Oh, you're towards the end. Which is towards the end. But I will say that the stretch of Jack Berger into the trapeze episode, I was-

Wait, remind me of the trapeze episode. She does a trapeze for, like, her column or something. Is it when it's like circus music? No, that's like the first season. I don't even know. No, that was the freak show. But it's definitely, it's been that, when you get through that slog into Alexander Petrovsky, it just makes a lot of sense why she wanted to be with him.

And he has a great, like, you know, it's very romantic. Burger was, Berger was boring. Flop. He was a flop. He was a wet hand shake. Huge mistake. Huge. But I really actually appreciated how they wrote his character as so insecure.

And speaking of, thinking things are mean, the whole scrunchy incident. Oh my God. Where she reads his book. About the girl who lives in New York. Yeah. And she's like a woman in New York would never wear a scrunchy. Yeah. And I mean, it basically tears them apart.

Tears them apart. Burgers a little bitch. Burger's a little bitch. And I feel bad because he is just so by far the worst person that, well, no. I mean, Alexander Petrovsky does hit her at one point. He does hit her. Yes. See, I don't remember that.

He hit her. He hits her. He hits her. He does. Keep backmins for. Yeah. We didn't like that part. Oh, shit.

That's not. I haven't gone to that episode yet in the rewatch, but I... Shit. Yeah. I read. I read. I saw today that Sarah Jessica Parker reads two books a day. Like when she's not shooting?

I know. And there's all these naysayers and like people came after the naysayers and she was like, you guys, you just find time and you do it. And people like vouched for her that she reads... Why are people coming after her? It's so stupid. She's a woman who said something. Gooder.

I mean, they're coming after her for reading. I know. Well, they think she's lying about reading two books a day. I'm like, if she says it, I believe it. Like people in this industry have. If you're not on a job, even if you are on a job, you probably have even more downtime. Right. No one's talking to you because you're on set.

So you have even more time to read two books a day. Yeah. I fully believe that. And she does feel, she seems very well-readed and well-read to me. She also doesn't come off like a liar. No. I would believe anything. I think she was like, you guys.

I mean, she's not even getting Botox. You don't think she's getting Botox. Is she not? No. No? I have to look at her face. I haven't watched their new shows. I don't know. She looks amazing.

She looks amazing. She looks amazing. She looks amazing. She seems to me like someone that's just like, this is what it is. Like, this is who I am, and I read two books a day. And she's so. People are jealous. Oh, they're fully jealous.

And I think she's very inspiring to me as a lifelong New Yorker. Like, she's really stayed the course. Yeah. So she's so associated with New York now. And I just think that's, like, so cool. That is something I'm incredibly jealous of. She's amazing. She's amazing.

And New York, I just, I never lived in New York. I know. So stupid. So stupid. Now we're kind of like past it. Yeah. It would be hard maybe to relocate the family. Yeah.

A little bit. And it will sink. Well, no. No, L.A. will sink. We will, I guess, sink too. Are we sinking? I think you guys are going to fall into the ocean and the ocean's just going to rise above New York. It's basically the same thing. So it's the same. It's the same. It's the seesaw. Do you know when? I'm not sure. I think experts say sooner than we think. I know. But what does that mean? Well, that's the problem. Do we know what sooner is? No. And I'm like, God, it's all bridge based in New York. So if tragedy struck day after tomorrow and I'm trying to. get to my parents' house in Connecticut. Oh, no. I got to go over a bridge. You're going to have to, you need a boat. And then I'm going to have to swim. Did you see that Mexican naval ship that

hit the Brooklyn Bridge? I did. I did see that. I don't. What? I don't understand. How do you not know, like, I don't, I don't understand. It was going straight. It's not like, it's not the top of the boat hit the bridge. They didn't notice. They really, they drove it straight into the bridge. But like, the math, what are they called? The mask. I'm not a boat person. I'm not a boat person either. You are casualties, which is horrible. I know too casualty. He's horrible. I know a little bit about boat. I think it's the mast it thinks it is.

I know. Kevin's nodding. Starboard. And the other one. And Shorebird. No, is it not? See, I told you. This bitch loves a boat.

It's okay if you can come out as someone that knows stuff about boats. And it's not even that I know stuff about boats. I just know a lot of random shit. She holds on to it. Right. She's like, oh, the mask. Right. Yeah.

The mask. Where I'd be like, huh? The what? I'm just trying to remember the other side of the boat name. Starboard and... It's Starboard and... Guys. Fuck me.

That's the name of it. Yeah, it's bad that none of us know this. No, but I know it. I mean, like, I'm not a boat or... Kevin's going to say it. The hole, the stern. But Starboard side and then there's another side. It's not even on the internet.

They've got the internet of this information. Nobody's allowed to know that we can talk about it. We're just talking about casualties and... Wait, let's talk about it. about your show for a second. Okay. And then I want to talk about your show because I've waited this long to bring up that I'm a huge OC. Oh my God. I don't know. I didn't want to come on and just be like, I don't know if guests come on and just like gush over the OC. They have to. Okay, good. Requirement. It is one of the biggest cultural influences of my high school years and probably life. Really? Yeah. I was, I am still, I do a rewatch every few years. I did my OC rewatch last year and then girls and then now I'm on sex in the city. I mean, my God, what an amazing show. Oh, my God. What just, like, seminal piece of media.

And, yeah, I just, from the fashion to the glamour of living out in Orange County. The fashion was a real thing. It was so, I mean, I would just, like, try to dress like you guys. Seriously. Were you more Marissa or summer? I was more of a Marissa in high school, but now I'm more of a summer. I appreciate that. I appreciate that.

She was fighting for Bimbo rights. summer and obviously so intelligent but I think in the beginning it was very like we needed more bimbo representation on TV that's like literally Josh Schwartz the creator at the beginning was like yeah it wasn't even

like a regular role you just had to come in be the best friend and she was supposed to be like blonde like stereotype whatever and then I made him laugh so he cast me no that's thank God for that because there's so much lore about the show and obviously one of the things is like well that we have

learned over time is that summer was not supposed to be right like a serious regular no but you just won them over you won them over you won them over fast I think so quickly you did I think that also like Adam and my dynamic like because there were also love triangles and whatever and so um I was like basically just in his trailer like okay oh I'm just kidding I was like wait oh I was not I was not oh I see okay that's how I got she's like I got she's like I'm just like I'm I worked hard for that. No clothes and sign sealed delivered. I can't imagine what it was like to be in that show and it was so at the height of its popularity.

It's kind of crazy. Just the time and everything. It was such a different time too. And there wasn't social media or anything like that. And but it was, it was cool. I don't know. I was 21, you know? So yeah.

Misha was 16, 17. So crazy. Insane. I know. So crazy. And so fun. I mean, it's just like, it's just so weird that it was so long ago. Then you start to feel really old when like people are coming up like, oh my God,

where are you watching, like discovering it now. And then they come and see me. They're like, my grandma loved your show. Yeah. Oh my gosh. We're watching you with her grandma. Well, I was peak age like of what the target demo was when it came out. So I mean, it was the only, we weren't allowed to watch TV during the week in my house,

but there was special distensation for the OC. Wow. And I was probably a little too young. But when it was on, like, I thought it was so, like, what's the word? Salation. Like, there was so much, like, sex and whatever. But there's really not. It's not.

When you go back and rewatch it, there's, like, one sex scene. I mean, there's alcohol and drugs and, like, whatever. True. But sex scenes were not. And, like, I remember mine was, like, funny. Yeah. Wasn't. Did you have a crush on anyone?

I, so it's this weird thing because one of my brothers looks so much like Adam Brody. So it was like I did have a crush, but then it was also like that looks like my brother. Yeah. That's kind of weird. Yeah. But I think also like as far as well, okay, the bisexual storyline was huge. Oh yeah. Because I never even really heard of what I never knew what bisexual was. And then to show like women kissing on TV. Right. Put a lot of ideas in my head. Yeah. So I would say that was definitely a queer awakening moment for me. And we just don't have a lot of shows like that. There aren't any, are there. The top of the audience is intelligence and also, like, making you love flawed characters.

And laugh at the same time. Yeah. Because you do. You get the soapy version or the drama version or a comedy, right? But the OC did such a great job of taking all of those and making them one show. Yeah. Which I don't think anything exists like that. Which brings me to overcompensating.

Exactly. Yeah, please. So overcompensating, I would say, like, the OC was a huge reference for us, gossip girl. Like, all those, like, American Pie. all the sort of like big teen shows and movies but i would say one thing that i was surprised by because i was also in the writer's room um i knew that we were writing some like emotional scenes in there too because it's about like a closeted um like football star who goes to college and he wants to like maybe reinvent himself and there's a lot of moments of like like tear-jerking earnestness

and and so it's trying to balance the funny because like in one moment you'll be crying but then like it's almost like when you're in college and there is such like a flux of emotions it's such a roller coaster. So we wanted it to really feel like that where like one one moment you're crying, but then something funny happens. So yeah. What? I did that because that's important. It's important. Yeah. Yeah. And we couldn't have made it without these classic shows paving away. Because I think before that, I mean, I don't know, I was a little bit younger. My siblings didn't really watch like 902 and O. But that sort of style of show was still relatively new when the O.C came out. like geared towards young people hour long funny but also really sad i wish they let you guys have a few

more episodes where things were just good i know it got rough it got really rough it's like one like for five seconds for one scene you guys were having a blast and then someone's pregnant you know yeah it was just i wanted you guys to have a few more wins but i remember i think it was towards the end of season three i could be wrong but we're like in a pool and i remember shooting that day and the four of us, like Adam Ben, Misha and I were like swimming and having fun. And I think that was around one of the last times maybe we see Misha, spoiler alert. Um, uh, and I, but I remember them wanting that seemed to be so light and like, and we did. We were just playing in the pool. And then they just like killed her. And then she died. I know. That was rough. That was not okay with me. Especially the song.

I, it's not okay. Like still whenever. I know. I watched it. I did a rewatch podcast and I watched that scene with Misha who had never seen it. Oh my God. What? Yeah. Like, and we both were crying. She never saw it. She never saw. What? I know. Is she okay? She's still crying. Yeah. Should we call her? Do we have eyes on Misha? Yeah, do we have eyes on Misha? It was hard to watch. I need that sweatshirt. I want her Chanel prom dress. That's what I want. That I still remember to this day. It's not of it.

You cannot find it anywhere. You're like, I've looked. I found one person that owns it and I almost DMT her being like, can I borrow this? Are you serious? I don't know if it's the exact same. Like, it is the dress, but I don't know if it's the one from the show. Right. But I have been tempted to just be like, could I just wear this to an event?

Like, I promise they'll take it. Warner Brothers, it's probably in their vault. You think? Yeah, maybe. I think we need to do a campaign for it. I just think like. It was so good. I mean, the fashion, also the music.

So the music is a big part of overcompensating because I think nowadays, like, music is so expensive that it's really easy to just, like, put in, like, royalty-free or stuff that's not as well-known because it's cheaper. And they made a big decision on overcompensating to get, like, huge tracks. So the show opens with Lucky by Britney Spears. Oh, my God. The best. We have Nicki Minaj songs. We have Michael Romance. Like, there's so much good music in it. And I do think the OC also, a lot of people I think that maybe didn't want to admit that they love the show could at least admit that the music was amazing. Right. So that gave, you know, the straight guys something to latch on too. Yeah. I've actually never met anyone who hasn't admitted

it. That they like the show. Yeah. Really? I think back then it was like, never. People wanted to, I don't know. It was just almost because it was about teenagers and I think people like, like, I'm older. Like I'm older. Like, I'm older. You're, you're full of shit. You're sitting, you're on the edge of your seat every week. Please. And there's people too that are like, oh, you know, overcompensating. It's just like, it's a gay show. It's for gay people. But no, they're wrong. The OC had a burger. Oliver.

I wasn't going to bring up Oliver Trask. No one wants to. Because those are some of the... Wait, who played Oliver? I don't know, but he was also in the movie Alley Cat Strike, I think. Or Phantom of the Megaplex, the decomm. He was in one of those shows... Was it a show with Jeremy Runner recently?

Anyway, the Oliver stage is our burger stage. Speaking of representation. Okay, mental illness is a huge problem in this country. especially among teens. But my God, Oliver Trashed, that storyline. That was really hard for viewers. Really hard. It's still hard.

To watch. And I still, even when I rewatch it, it's difficult. Because they really gaslit Ryan. A lot. Into thinking that he was crazy for not trusting this guy. Yeah. And then he's got a gun, you know? He was fucking right. Oliver.

Oliver, I think, is really what with a wrench that was thrown into like all of them being happy. Eventually. Like, then it doesn't happen. Everything happened because of him. We'll just say that. Because doesn't Ryan hook up with Teresa when they're on a, like, when Oliver's in the picture? I don't remember. But you probably know better than I do.

Yeah, I need to be watch again. I literally like, we'll watch and be like, what? Yeah. No, I was surprised at the stuff that I felt like some of it I was watching for the first time because it's been a while. But it is transportative. And also just so many great one-liners in the show. There's some classics in there. And you got to dress as Wonder Woman.

I did get to dress as Wonder Woman. Was that so fun? Was it fun? She doesn't remember. I think it was like a real costume from Wonder Woman. I want to say it was. They took it out of the Warner Brothers vault. Yeah, I'm like, if you can do it for that, you can do it for the Chanel. There you go.

I have your head. Come on now. Don't quote me on it. But yeah, I just remember it was like very, you know, I have very short legs. We talked before we were recording that I do not have long legs and you have very long legs. You're very lucky. Thank you. So does my daughter?

You made a great Wonder Woman now. I mean, I could have used a little more leg. That's insane. That's insane. Did Wonder Woman have a lot of leg? I don't know, but it's like a body suit. I think you did it. Thanks.

Yeah. I think it was fabulous. I know many times it took me to like get that lasso. I can't imagine. I was like known for, there's like a golfing episode where I have to like hit a golf ball. Could not do it. Like maybe 50 takes and they were like, you know what? We're good.

She doesn't get it. Nope. She doesn't get it. Yeah. Hitting a golf ball is shockingly difficult. It's incredibly hard. I've only tried it a few times and I'll never try it again. Could you hit the ball?

No, I could not hit the ball. Oh, interesting. It never went anywhere. The swing is very unnatural to me. My arms don't bend that way. No, it's weird because I can do sports. Like, I, you know, weirdly I can. Except golf.

Interesting. I know. Anyways. I hope you haven't had to do it since. No. Question about how did you end up getting? in the writer's room, how'd you end up getting the show? How'd it come to be? So I've been friends with Benito, Bennito, aka Benny Drama 7 for many years. We met at a stand-up show. And we've done a lot of

creative projects together. We have a podcast together. And we've done like sketches. And we just had, we just shot an ad for Sarah V. I say it wrong in the ad. I don't remember if it's Saravi or Saravi. Sorry, I don't remember. But that's like the joke of the sketches that I pronounce it wrong. So we do a lot of stuff together. And then he'd been working on this pilot and I'd read a bunch of different versions of of it and it was in development at Amazon and then when it got greenlit, he was like, I want you to be in the writer's room. So met with them and I was so happy to be there, honestly, just to like observe, but then to be able to contribute was so fun. And then he had a character that was his sister named Grace. And he had always said, like, I want you to play the character, but things changed. Projects go through

many different life cycles, whatever, whatever. I was always like cautiously optimistic. But then I got cast last June and then the next week we moved to Toronto and shot the show. That's so cool. It was so fun. It felt like. Thank God it was June. It was surreal. Sorry.

My God. No, Toronto is like hardcore. The weather is so hardcore. In the summer, it felt like New York. So I was like, cool. I love it here. But then the winter and, yeah, it's, it, I was there a little bit this winter and it snowed every single day.

So the point where it wasn't even like people there talked about it, it just was always snowing. That's life. I couldn't. That's not the lifestyle for me. No. It was really fun and I'm proud of the show. I think it's very funny and nostalgic and yeah, it's just been so fun to do a project that I really like and I'm proud to talk about it.

And I think it's good. That's very cool. Yeah. And are you still in the writer's room on it? So we're waiting to see about season two. Okay. Pick up, knock on wood. Mm-hmm.

But I think it would be so fun. to be able to continue and see where these characters go. And overcompensating. I'm really excited. Check it out on Amazon. All episodes are on Prime Video. We hit number one in America, Canada, Brazil, and the Philippines. Yeah.

That is out. Congratulations. I feel like I want to meet Benny now. I know. I know. He should come on. He wanted to do this with me, but he's in New York doing Kelly Clarkson show. Oh, I thought he went to Hawaii.

He went to Hawaii and then he flew to New York. Got it. He's all over. I'm keeping tabs on him. Jeff Setter. Yeah. We have a tracker on his plane like Taylor's lift.

But his is a delta plane and it changes. Thank you guys for having me. Thank you for being part of the Great American Teen. I don't even know how to phrase it. Like the lineage of great American teen shows.

I appreciate that. I appreciate that. I appreciate that. What is a mogul? Someone that gets all the money. An important or powerful person. Especially in the motion picture. or media industry.

That's interesting. I don't really think of it as a specific. I don't think of it specific to that. Yeah. Huh. That's very specific. That is. Kylie Jenner.

Mogul. Mogul. Yeah. That's a mogul. Yeah. Yeah, I think of it like business specific for some reason. Me too. I thought so.

Like Wall Street. Yeah. Well, I think it is. isn't it? No? It just said, well, whatever. A movie mogul. That's very common. Right.

Right. Tom Cruise is a movie mogul. I'm tired. I mean, too. We lost it. Yeah, I had a matcha today. Don't you guys like? Olivia, do you like macha?

Love. Yeah. Was that like your first time or something? I haven't had a matcha in several years. How did it go? It's good. This is a straw. like iced macha.

And I know I was cautious mixing the flavors. And I did a thing I normally don't do, which is I was, can get a little sample? Can I try it? And it was like kind of a... They let you? Yeah. They gave me, they had a little like paper shot glass, basically. And they're, this place is very pro samples, I think. And so, because they have like the stack of the little glasses and I do see people, try their seasonal drinks.

So I think this is their like summer, summery drink. And I had a sip and I was like, let's do it. And they were like, okay. I clearly was the first person who said yes. They were like, oh, okay. This is a vibe. Yeah. This is a vibe.

And I normally don't fuck with different things like in life. And I don't know, there's a good start to the day. I feel so good about this. I know. I really am happy. Where is this place? Lock alone. Oh.

Just the coffee shop down the street. Yeah. The seize candy of coffee. Yeah. Wait, this is a really important question. What? How do you feel about a place? By the way, that chocolate place gives you samples.

What is it called again? I don't know. Del Arachach or something. No, it's not. That's not that. Oh. Annie Hewellhouser, LaRache or something. No, it's not.

It's something really hard to say. It's something delicious. How do you feel there's this ice cream place we had to go to, we didn't have to go to, but it was convenient to where we were. once a week. Yeah. So we'd always go into this ice cream place. And they don't give samples. Nope.

That is interesting. And I feel... Ice cream places always give samples. It's a thing that goes along with ice cream places. So it's kind of... What place is it? Right? I don't know what it's called.

It's in Burbank on Magnolia. No, samples. Is it fancy ice cream? No, it's like regular ice cream. I said, I think you guys are really... Did you say something to that? I didn't get an ice cream because I was like, well, I don't know what I want. Yeah.

Wow. I wish you would have called them out. I did it. What did you say? I said, you guys, I think this really sucks that you don't have samples. This is not mogul material. You're never going to go anywhere. What'd they say?

The girl was like, I know, I just work here, you know, and I was like, well. You're just talking to her about the business plan. I was like, where's your boss? I need to know what ice cream places is. I'll find out. I kind of want to riot a little bit. I don't even like ice cream, but just the fact that they don't offer samples. I was so upset.

I didn't get an ice cream. That's crazy. What if I don't ice cream like the one I choose? Yeah, what you're getting? I get that. I feel like I've heard a lot of discourse about samples. And I agree with the take of if it's not like the classic vanilla chocolate cookie dough. Like if they're like, here's our crazy red velvet cinnamon swirl with a hint of this, they have to provide a sample.

That's fair. They had crafty ice crapes. Yeah. Then I think you have to give people a little taste. Well, then yeah. I would never be like, can I sample the vanilla? I might. Because I just want a little taste.

Yeah, no, I hear you. If you don't know what you're going to get. Just a sliver too. Listen, commitment to anything is hard. It is. Breach. Can I ask you a question? Uh-oh.

How many samples feel appropriate? Okay, so I do this because, Briar will want to keep trying things. Uh-huh. I feel like two is okay. Three, you're pushing it. Like, yes.

Three is a little like you are definitely pushing it. Have you seen the Kirby enthusiasm episode about this? Does he do it? The person in front of him does like six samples and he loses his mind. And then it gets like brought back at the end where that was actually the principal of a school. He was trying to help a kid. But the clip of her going like, oh, man, let me try.

And he's just like, oh, my fucking. Larry David is my inner. Yes. Yes, everybody's inner voice. I did four chocolate yesterday. What? There was no one else in there. And they kept giving you samples?

Here's the thing. The girl and I really got along over our love for chocolate. You're at the right place. You know, I was like in the store, she wasn't someone that took her job lightly. I was like, what's good? What's good? You know? And she was like, this.

And I tried it. I was like, that's amazing. I'm like, what about the white chocolate with strawberry, though? And she's like, oh, it's really good because it's got dried strawberry. Chris, you want to try it? Yes, I want to try it. And then I'm like, but I've never had white chocolate with caramel and nuts in it. She's like, you got to try it, you know?

And then four later, I'm like, all right, I'm going to stop. Yeah. I could have kept going. Well, it sounds like she was a very willing participant too. Yeah. She wasn't like, Jesus Christ, lady. Sure, let me get another one. She wasn't at all.

I said, do you eat it every day? She goes, every day I have to. She's like, because I also need to know how to guide you. Yeah. And I was like, you are guiding me so well right now. That is a chocolate mogul. Yeah. She knows what she's doing.

She knows what she's doing. They know what they're doing. I ended up getting a $40 thing of chocolate. I was going to say, I feel like if you got in a like a larger amount to, I think then that's totally. Like if you did four samples and then got like a $3. Or didn't. Yeah, exactly. Like, well, goodbye.

They probably kick you out. Isn't it funny that with, like, specific places the samples are, like, totally appropriate to do. But if you went to a bar and was like, can I try the IPA? They'd be like, what the fuck? They might let it slide, but. I'm surprised the coffee place has samples. Yeah.

I've never seen that. No. It's, I think it's more for their, like, draft seasonal things. I don't think people are doing, like, samples of their almond milk latte. But when they have like a seasonally drink, they do, I don't know, I guess they let people do little samples of it. But probably because it's really easy just to like pour a sample versus like they're not making it. Exactly. Yeah.

Okay. Here's something I don't know a lot of people know. I was a waitress for a long time. People don't know that. No, no. People don't care about that. That's not what I'm saying. And you know how when you order a bottle of wine and the server comes and opens it and pours a little bit for you.

to try. Yeah. They're doing that to make sure that the bottle isn't spoiled. They're not doing it to see if you like the taste of it. Oh, interesting. Right? Wow, I had no idea. Most people don't.

Say that again. Sorry, I got distracted by something. So when you order a bottle of wine, the server opens it and pours a little bit for you to taste. They're not like, hey, do you like this? They're doing that so you can tell if the bottle of wine is spoiled or not. So if it's a good bottle, you just say, yeah, that's good. But it's not like, I'm not really liking the taste of it.

They're only doing it to see if it's a good bottle, like if it didn't spoil? Correct. I had to take like a Somalié course. Oh, my God. Never knew that. Most people don't because they'll be like, I don't really like it. And it's like we just opened a whole bottle of wine. Yeah.

It's not about if you like it or not. Is it good? Right. Or is it spoiled? Fascinating. That's really bizarre. And kind of funny because I think it gives people that fake confidence of like, um,

fantastic. But it's like I'm literally just doing this to use you as like a test dummy to make sure it's not disgusting. Yeah, I'm just not going to drop off a bottle that's spoiled. Yeah. Because bottles can go bad. Right. This is a little dark, but I was, I worked at a assisted living home for a year.

and I was for like a month a waiter. And then I got moved to like a different position. But for the first month I was a waiter. And one of the things that would happen is because a lot of people had dementia or like Alzheimer's and stuff, you'd put in the full order, bring them their drink, their food and everything. And they'd go, I didn't order any of this. Oh. And so you would have to say like, okay, my apologies. What would you like?

And then I would order something else sometimes. It didn't happen all the time. But the one that I always think about was this guy was like, you know what? Today I'm going to go crazy. I'm going to a cup of apple juice. And I was like, you got it. And I grabbed apple juice, brought it to him. And I was like, here's your apple juice.

And you want, fucking apple. What do you think? I'm six years old? I don't want apple juice. It just roasted me. And I'd be like, oh, my apologies. That's really funny. That is.

There's a, I don't know if it's in Japan. There's somewhere where there's a restaurant where they hire only like elderly people with dementia and they're your servers. And it like gives them, I have to look more into this. Sure. Yeah. But do they remember your order? I don't know, but I think it's like just like a nice thing. I don't know.

That's really sweet. Yeah. Every day. When Jeff's mom had dementia, we went to stay there and his dad had been cooking for her. Yeah. And when I got it. there, I was like, babe, I'm going to take over the cooking because we were there for a week. And we gave her food and she goes to me, I don't know who this new dietitian is, but I want to talk to her.

I was like, it's me. She's like, yeah, she thought I was the new dietitian. Wow. I know, but she liked it. Yeah. Well, because, Michael never listens to this. But when we got there, I can't. It gives me the chills.

He made her spaghetti. And he's like, I'm going to make her spaghetti. And I was like, I'll make a meat sauce or whatever. And I didn't get to it yet. And I go in and I see what he was giving her. And he made her spaghetti. And he put a jar of canned fruit on top of it. What the hell?

And I said, Michael, what are you doing? He said, she really likes fruit. She like, like, and I said, no, no. No. That's different. No. Wait. He thought that would get her to eat it.

Fruit on spaghetti. Can fruit. Can fruit on spaghetti. That's bad. Did she eat it? There's a new dietician in town. No, I said no wonder if she's not eating, Jeff. Yeah. Well, the bar was pretty low.

That's rough. Dang. I can't. I can't. No. No. It's imprinted in my mind forever No

Crazy Well guys Sorry for bringing the room down Well bring it up Rachel Say something Just talk Say something that's going to get you In trouble

I do that all the time I'm trying to think of the things like people eat That are like so disgusting We should do a challenge you guys We should make each other eat something Repulsive Oh Why would we do that?

I don't know I do that every day. I had three corn dogs yesterday. Did you? That sounds delicious. It was. Yep. From where?

The brand is Morning Star. Oh, yeah. From the grocery store. Come in a box of four. Is that your dinner? Yep. I had three corn dogs for dinner. And I was like, look at me not having the fourth.

Good guy. But what did Leah eat? I think she, what did she eat? She made something for herself. Wait, you guys don't. Like do a communal dinner? No, we do. I think she just like ate before I did.

And I was like, don't worry, I got the corn dogs. Oh, our neighbor is a caterer and did an event for 400 people and only 150 people came. And so she was like, I have so much chicken and salad. Can I bring some over to you guys? And so Leah had chicken with some stuff. I'm like, I was like, don't worry, I got the corn dogs. Got it. Yeah.

The perks of your neighbor being a caterer. Yeah. Sometimes you get random, huge things of food. That's great. Really important question before we wrap. Do you dip it in mustard or ketchup? I'm a ketchup girl. Okay.

What about you? Corn dog mustard. Only? I'll do ketchup too. I might do both. But if I had to choose. I would do ketchup. But you know what?

You guys, let me tell you something. Please. You're vegan, so it doesn't catch up. Count. Hot dog on a stick. I don't get the hot dog on the stick. You get the cheese. I get the pepper jack cheese on a stick and I dip it in ketchup. I'd like that in mustard. It's so good. Just cheese on a stick with ketchup. So good. Essentially, yeah, but it's in batter and fried. Okay, that sounds better. It's delicious. It's growing on me. It's delicious. It's like a corn dog cassidia. Yeah. And you dip in an ketchup though. It's really important that you have the ketchup with the pepper jack. on the stick. I feel like mustard would be good too, though. Okay, I'm not mad at that.

Sometimes I like to mix the mustard and the ketchup. I used to in high school with the French fries in the cafeteria do ketchup and mustard. There was something about those particular fries that needed both. Yep, I get it. Nachos. Halapinos on the side. That was a headgum podcast.