Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - Molly Sims on Entrepreneurship, Skin Care, and Lying to your Children

Episode Date: May 27, 2024

Actress, model and entrepreneur Molly Sims talks to Rachel and Olivia about her journey as an entrepreneur, skin care, and lack of transparency on social media. They also discuss when it’s OK to lie to your children, and the importance of teaching the value of tenacity and accountability.Broad Ideas is supported by NPR Wild Card. Wild Card comes out every Thursday from NPR—listen to it wherever you get your podcasts.Broad Ideas is supported by IQBAR. Get 20% off all IQBAR products. Text IDEAS to 64000. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details.Broad Ideas is supported by Maybelline. If you, or someone you know is experiencing anxiety or depression, Maybelline New York is funding free, confidential support: Text TOGETHER to 741741 Broad Ideas is supported by Tropical Smoothie Café. Visit one of Tropical Smoothie Cafe’s 1400+ locations or order online or through their app.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Broad jaws. Dunna, done itna. Today we have Molly Sims, you guys. Yes, we do. I've known Molly a really long time. I love Molly. I'm so happy she came here to be with us. She was a model and she's an actor.

Las Vegas. Yeah, Las Vegas for sure. Do you remember? Oh, yes, man. She has a podcast lipstick on the rim. She has a smoothie from heroin that she brought us. That was delicious. And her wise beauty.

Skin care. Love. Love those pads, exfoliating pads. My favorite ex-to-be-exact. Let's have Molly, so I stop talking. Sometimes when we're inside of Rachel's little brain, all these thoughts are swirling. Round and round inside to join us on this journey as we take a little ride.

We'll talk about dogs and kids and things. We'll talk about chicks and tampon strings. We'll talk about boys that and... Because people die. I'm drinking an amazing smoothie right now. The beauty elixir. You guys, it's so good. It is so good.

I know. I have to say, I've never... I was telling the girl. girls, that it took like a year and a half to negotiate because it's kind of, who knew it was so hard to get an Air One smoothie. But it's been really fun. I have to say, like, working with them and Nathan, like, it's a huge process. And, like, they take it very serious. It was fun. It was really, I have to say. Anyway, I delivered two smoothies. Oh, my God. And they're delicious. I've been watching on Instagram, your smoothie, and I'm like, I literally, yeah, I was going to go to everyone this one.

Oh, that, yes, she was. Because I wanted to try it and I'm like, I have to get it before Molly God. I need to try the smoothie. And you brought it for us. I'm so excited. Tell us again what's in it. So it's, and on my phone in here, it's a really good protein powder that they sell. And it's like a weird word, but I'll figure it out. It has dates, a little bit of banana, cinnamon, sea moss jelly, which is. really good for the skin. Maka, which is really good for like anti-aging, sexual, like really good for fertility. Maka. I know. I don't need another one. But it's got chia seeds. Is it chia? I think it's chia. God, there's so many things in it. I can't even tell you all and better. Everyone needs it. But there's one thing we were just talking about with Kenna that makes it low glycemic.

Yeah. What was it? She'll have to tell us. But it's really good. When you drink it, you feel like you're being nourished and it doesn't feel like you're just drinking. Calories. Calories and sugar.

I know. Which is amazing. I know. I want something that like I love a smoothie, like either middle of the day or like towards like four o'clock when I start dipping as opposed to coffee or I do like a match every now and then. I don't know. It just like feels me up.

And I didn't want it to be like too sweet with like. like strawberry and a lot of fruit. No. And so, you know, sometimes I, like, bananas can be a little tricky, but they're so good in and they fill you. They really do. Right? I'm a big fan.

It's good for potassium and. I don't even know you. No, we are very, very honored that we got to try it this morning. But you have so much going on. I do. And I'm just amazed with it all and in love with it all. I mean, I am obsessed with your exfoliating pads. Your favorite expats.

I know. I brought them, I brought you guys more. We're finally back in stock. You know, I, well, it's twofolds about starting the company. I think I was kind of in a place in my life where I didn't want to just be on the end of like holding up a product and ding. Yeah. You know, I, it's almost like I got the teenager before, but I never got.

you know, carrying the baby, birthing the baby. So I think that shift kind of happened during COVID. Like I wanted to be, a little bit before COVID, like I wanted to be a part of something from the beginning as opposed to just like coming in at the end and hawking something.

Not that hawking is a bad thing. Like I love all different products, but like being part of that process. And then I think with trying to figure out like what I really wanted to do and I'm with a manager named Nicole Salach And before she would take me, I was kind of in the midst of not having a midlife crisis, but like, what do I want to do?

Like, do I want to go on more? I just did, I knew that I didn't want to be sitting in a trailer in Albuquerque for nine months. Like, I really knew that. I knew my husband, just with his job, like, it wasn't going to work. Like, we can't both be gone. Right. And he was really traveling at that time pre-COVID. And I kind of, the question that I was posed was, what is your five-year plan?

Mm-hmm. And she was like, come back to me in a few months when you've thought that out. Wow. I was like, what? I was like, what the fuck? Yeah, I know. I'm like, I thought you like me. I have one for you.

But what it did, it really made me focus. It really made me. And so I met, who I'm still part of. my company, Kim Kruisberg, I met her on a soccer field at AYSO and I'm like, oh, are you still at Goop? And she was like, no, I left. I'm consulting. I'm working with Christy. Teagan I'm working with. And she's like, I'm just giving advice on. I'm like, yes, I'm hiring you. I go, can you come for a couple of weeks and work with me? Yeah. So she came and worked with another writer, Danielle Pergamont, who's amazing, who was at Allure. They went through everything. They went

through molly simms.com they went through the book that i the third book that i was writing they went through my social my tic-tok they went through everything they asked me i know you know i know you like furniture and interior design like i know you like baking like they like could you see yourself doing and i'm like i don't think really things and then they're like is there anything else And I said, you know, there's one thing. And it was organic and natural as that. I went upstairs to my bathroom. I got about 15, 20 products.

And I go, I've made a system for myself. I said I've had really bad hyperpigmentation, like really bad. Like the mask, the mustache, the dark, uneven skin, splotchy. And I've had it been going on since I've been 40 since I had Brooks. I don't know if my hormones with the baby, like, kickstarted it, turning 40 and probably being in the sun too much when I was younger. Like, something kicked it in. And I said I was really doing drastic things. I would do a V-peel, which is nothing wrong with a V-Pel, but I would do these things like constant. I tried to laser. I tried, and I used a product called hydroquinone way

too much. And so, yes, of course, like, it got really clear and it was dry and red, but it wasn't dark and uneven. It wasn't like I was patching it all the time with like a concealer. And the moment I would go out, the moment I would stop using it, it would come back with vengeance. Oh, yeah. So in 2019, Scott, my husband, who's super sweet, but he was like, you have a little dirt on your face. It was so, because I had tried to pat, I have this matte concealer that I still use and I still left, but I was trying to patch it so I wouldn't have to use like a full-on foundation and then just put a little tinted moisturizer over it. And I was like, oh my God, I have to figure something out. And that, and from 2019, I stopped everything.

And I started with one product, then another product, and then another product, and then another product. And I put like this system together. And about three or four months in, Emisha was like, your skin looks way better. And I was like, oh, I'm not really doing anything, and I wasn't doing anything drastic. Like, even my derm was like, I would go into it, get Botox, and she was like, what are you doing? And I was like, not doing hydroquinone and not, you know.

And this question, I said, why does everything that's really strong and really potent, ugly in derm, like, and not kind of thought of, and no one's really speaking to my age group, and then everything that's really cool and fun, and like has no efficacy. I said, but this is my routine and this is kind of what I've done for the past two years.

Yeah. And she's like, let me think about that. And I was like, but I've really, I go, and I showed her this picture from 2014, 15 of my skin. She could not believe it. Wow. I'm 50. So at that time I was 46. At that time I was 42.

Like I can get confused on how old I was when. But it was really bad. But that's how Wise became wise. It's a system for hyperpigmentation for brightening. Amazing. It's so good. You have makeup right here. You have dirt right here.

You have, and I'm like, no. Well, malasma, like after pregnancy, like, I will get a full-on melasma mustache. After I have briar, if I'm in the sun. So, like, the only place if I have sunscreen, it's like a white mustache. I know. So you don't get it. And so that's where the pads, the problem solver. It's for trans-examic acid.

We just got written up in a lure today for having the best problem. It's called the problem solver. And it's for those spots, and it's an all-over. So you can spot treat it or do it every night. Like I would say like a dime every night all over. And that is my ode to hydroquinone, but clean. Your skin is absolutely gorgeous. Listen, I...

Beautiful. You work at it. I do work at it, but I do work at it. I have to say, I work less. I work smarter, not harder. We think that, oh, my God, getting like this huge laser, that actually does the opposite. It hurts you more. It makes your thin skinner. It makes it more susceptible to, like, anything outside that, like, will make the melanin increase. Laser is heat. So you have to, it's a very fine line. More doesn't mean better. Right. And that's, I think, what I learned. I just have that balanced consistency with really good ingredients.

That is the magic. Like, if you can be consistent. And I know it sounds simple, and we want that magic treatment. But that treatment, like I did a $10,000 laser that was called the cold laser in 2015. I was just with Jenna Dewan. We were talking about it. Last night, it did. nothing for me. Not only did it do nothing for me, I've never spent anything toward, like, I've never,

I died, but I think it was the height of the Kardashians going to him. And so they were like, oh, send out. I was like, what? I thought. I died in that moment. I'm like, can we do a payment plan? I'd already gotten it. But, uh, work for you. Yeah. But it was out of a problem that I had that the company got started. And that is really truthful. And, you know, I learned a lot during those two weeks about, like, kind of what I wanted, what I, you know, I like storytelling. I found the home edit a couple of years ago and, like, putting things together. And I used to read for Stuber on, like, do this, don't do that. So in that way, like, the production part is fun, you know, because I, but it's, yeah, I think just,

being a part of something from the beginning has given me a lot of fulfillment. It's weird. Like I never, I don't know. Someone asked me like, why are you doing this now? Like, you don't need to. And I go, it actually really fulfills me. Yeah. So great.

Yeah. And it, like, I always ask in my podcast and like, what's your superpower? Like, my superpower is like looking at something from above and, like, backing into it. I love that. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. Like, I'm really good at pivoting.

and I'm really good at problem solving. You know what else I love about what you're saying? TikTok, I watch it, okay? And I see all the skincare routines. And they're all done by these girls in their 20s. And I'm like, I don't care. Yeah, you're like, you're saying. I don't care what you do to your skin because that doesn't affect my life.

What you do to your skin affects my life. I know. Because then I can say, oh, look it. She's. Well, we need brands that are. to women in their 30s and their 40s and their 50s that, you know, that make a difference. Like, I don't want to be, I mean, for me, aging is, you know, I don't want to be spoken to, like, I'm dying, or I'm someone's grandmother, or I'm constantly in menopause. Like, I just don't want to approach, you know, life or beauty from that angle.

And I think, you know, I'm looking at my thing, like, living wisely, like, I want to, like, own it. Like, I do think women can have. have different chapters in their life. One thousand percent. Really good fucking chapters. And I think, you know, this is my chapter. And I have to say, I feel better than I did at 30. Oh, 100%.

I mean, you can walk all over me. I dated anything that was like, you know, dead on the side of the road that I thought I could resurrect with my light. You know, so I think, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I was good at that. I think we all have that. I'm telling us.

You know? But it's true. And I always say like, you know, I'm 42 now and I'm like, I feel better about myself. Ever since 40s. It's just like this different thing, you know? And I love that it's talked about. And even in your skin care or whatever it is, but just paying attention to like that. Because like aging, especially in, if you're in the public eye and aging is like.

It's hard. Everyone's like pointing at every, you know, or saying something negative or. And I tend to like, not. read things on purpose because if you see the comments and stuff, but it's, it is hard. It's hard. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's a challenge. Like even last night I went to this big thing and I was like a little. Did you go to a fashion trust thing? Yeah. I was like a little self-conscious because I was so busy and I really didn't kind of pull it together until the end. I did my makeup at 8 o'clock in the morning. By the time, you know, you walk a carpet at 7, I'm like, I looked kind of washed it. I like, but I was so like overwhelmed, but I really wanted to be there for Tanya and I love what they do in the fashion trust.

And I'm like, oh my God, I should have worn more. I was just totally like self-deprecated. Like I was totally like putting myself down. Like, you know, it's hard, you know? You're like, oh my God, this person looks amazing. I'm like, if they're in a full on gown, I'm like at a pantsuit. But, you know, you have those moments. But yeah.

But we need to hear that from you. Yeah. We need to be able to look at you and be like, oh, she feels self-conscious too. That makes us all breathe a little bit easier. Yeah. And I think that's what's successful about WISE, and I think that's what's successful about lipstick on the rim, my podcast. I think, you know, I will tell you what I do, but a lot of people won't.

Like they'll be like, you know, oh, yeah, I drink a lot of water and I sleep a lot. And you're like, really? Yeah. Like, can't you just help me out a little bit? It looks like Botox. Yeah, right, right, right. So I think that transparency of like, oh, no, I do this. I try this.

Right. Like, I want to do this. I've starved myself. I've gone to, you know, I've walked 16 miles. Like, I've, you know, I think the honesty, but more importantly, the transparency and even more like, there's no gatekeeping, right? Like, again, you don't have to say or, you know, tell your whole life. Right. But there is a matter of like, no, I didn't just have eight hours of sleep.

I have Botox. I, you know. Right. Yeah. It's, if I get eight hours of sleep, I look like I cried all night. Like, it's not a good look, you know, always. Isn't that weird? Like, sometimes the more I sleep.

I was so dead tired. I was on set the other day. And I was in my trailer. And I think, you know, back to the days of being on a show, you've got to, you know, you got to pull your shit together. Like, I literally, I was so exhausted, but I'm like, I looked, I felt, I felt good. Yeah. I, like, had worked out for two months.

Like, I ate healthy. I didn't drink as much. Like I was really, I was like a mummy laying in that trailer, but I was like so tired. And I was like, how in the world on no sleep? I looked better. Oh, yeah. I've always said that. Like, for anything.

I'm like, if I get like a few hours of sleep and I'm so tired, my face looks better than if I sleep. That's so interesting. I don't know what it is. Well, it's not as much heavy weight on the face all night. I guess. It's probably just the weight of the sleeping. But the fashion trust was really nice. It was.

Yeah. Tanya and Christel Lim and. Maha, and they really do an incredible job of supporting these young designers. It's amazing. It's amazing to see the energy and how, you know, these contestants, you know, winning, even just to be there. I know. I was going to go, but, you know, something, it's hard. It's hard.

It's a week, school night. You know, you have three kids. Three. I know. Fun. That's a lot of kid. Every time, like, you're posting stuff about your mom, like, being a mom and, like, the kid, I die. It's so relatable and it's so funny.

No. It just, it's, but you have three of them. Can you bring me a fork this morning? No. Oh, good. I cannot. Can you shut the door so the dogs don't get in? No. No. Gray announced that he didn't love his new life. What? What's his new life? Yes.

Having tours. Oh, his new life. Because how old is he now? He's in first grade. He's in first grade. He's first grade, yeah. He did not, he just announced it to every. He did not, he does not like picking up his clothes. He does not like, I, he does not like having to try to make his bed. He does not like sleeping in his bed, which he lasted, I'm really proud of him last night. He lasted six hours. No. But he comes to you. Yeah. Like 2 a.m. I'm like, you did. Oh. I know. I know. My kids still sleep in my bed. I know. It's awful. How do you get them to do? I mean, I mean, I'm. I mean,

I'm, how do you get them to do chores? You know, I bribe. I said today. I said today. Yep. I said, Gray won. And they were like, what? And I said, yes, Gray gets $5 of Roblox.

Okay. And he was like, I do? Scarlett's like, I picked up everything this weekend in a hotel. And I was like, well, interesting. Yeah. So I bribe. Oh, yeah. I like it.

Yes. I need to start bribing. Do you bribe? I mean, if I had to, I would. It's just Breyer and I here, you know, so it's, but I do make her like, you got to do this and that she just kind of does it. She's a girl. She's a girl. Like Scarlett is, you know, she's more self-sufficient.

She's third grade, too, right? She's third, yeah. Yeah. So she's, you know, she's getting sassy. She's getting like, you know, she's doing her Taylor Swift play. She's like, I don't really want to dress like Taylor. I'm like, well, it's an era's tour. So you kind of got to commit to an era.

To an era. To your song, right, our time. You're really funny. I don't really want to wear the dress. I want to wear cutoffs. Really want to wear the cowboy hat or the boots. I'm like, okay, well, you're going to have to talk to your teachers and get permission. She's doing Adderley, which is a great little program at the Women's Center.

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I yell all the time. All the time. It's really hard not to yell. I know it's different for you because she has one daughter that's really mellow mannered. She's not a pusher, you know? She's pretty mellow. I've got two boys I find it and I don't like yelling.

I don't like the way it feels in my body. You don't like it, right? But that's the only way sometimes. Yeah. Right. Get in this fucking car right now. Yeah, this is what I'm saying. Or I'm going to beat you.

Yes. Yes, we threaten, we bribe. And so it's fun. I appreciate you. See, it's so refreshing because it's just like, you know, you can be like, no. Yeah, I told him the other day, I said to Brooks, I go, Jaron, his reading teacher, I'm like, we're going to take a break. You never want to do it.

And I was, they get weirded out when I'm really calm. Yeah. So you got to mind, you got to mess with them a little bit. I go, listen, she's decided that you really don't want to work with her and she really needs to go to families who need her and appreciate her and her work. He was like, what? And he is really kind and sweet. But I'm tired of the pushback.

And I go so, and he goes, he was so flustered. I go, he goes, I'm going to have a talk with her. I'm like, okay. I'm like, well, we'll see if she stays. I don't know. We'll see. It's so good. It's really good.

An hour and a half later, we talked about it. She feels like she can stay. I'm like, great. I'm like, you know, it's just like a lot of money. and it's just like if you don't want to read, guess what? You won't read in life. And that's fine. And that is fine. How are you going to be a roadbox player? And that is on my life's exactly what I said. It's amazing. It's totally fine. You'll go through life not reading. It's fine. Oh my gosh. I like it. I do. I love it. And they're like, they can't quite see.

Right. They're like, what is happening here? Yeah. My mother was like that. Oh, really? My brother got caught. Like, she said something about, like, something. And he was like, Todd, I know you have a case of beer underneath your bed. Like, I'm not stupid. And she, like, kind of laughed. He was like, you're so weird. And then he was like, you're grounded for a month. Like, she just would, like, that's how. She handled it. You know, it's a flex. And then, you know, she would, you know, they were supposed to be X and they were down at the ditch. I'm from Kentucky.

We call it Ditches. But I got the Ditch drinking and whatever in high school. Of course, she pulled up that loud diesel station wagon and like, she's like, you're looking at us in here. You know? She would just be standing there and calling him. He was like, you know.

But she was good like that. Oh, my God. Are you close to your brother? Very. Yeah. And is she still in Kentucky? He's in Miami. He's in Miami.

No, everybody sadly, after she passed away, they all went to Miami. me. So Todd's been there for 20 plus years and then I moved my dad down there a couple of years ago because it just wasn't, you know, I needed someone to watch him and, you know. Is that recent? They went down. He left about a couple of years ago. She's been gone four years. Four years. Oh, my. That's so hard. Very hard. I know. It's, I know. It's like.

We cling on to each other because we're like, we know one day. I know. And it's, you know, I can see how much she meant to you. Yeah. She was amazing. Does I cry? I know. It's our goal here.

I know. It's our goal. Yeah. But, you know, I mean, I think, listen, I think with parenting, like, there's no one way. I think one year, one way works and I think another year. Like, I think, you know, I think they know they're deeply loved. I think they know, I give them a lot of structure, probably too much in the way of like, they thrive more on it. Like, you know, I do hold accountability.

Like, I will say, like, we don't use the iPad during the week. We don't. You know, I want to. You know, every day. Every day. Yeah. It's more just a punishment to us. It's more punishment to us.

But, you know, I think, you know, also there are different temperaments. What works with one doesn't work with the other. You know, Scarlett's more of a daddy's girl. You know, Brooks and Gray could call back, you know, crawl back up in my vagina. You know what I mean? Like, it just depends on, you know, but they're fun and they're sweet. And they give me so much joy and pain all at the same time. time. Oh, don't you know it? Yeah. It's such a, it's such a double-edged sword. Because it's like the

greatest love you'll ever experience. Ever. The most, it's, sometimes when I listen to my kid crunch, the sound of him crunching. I know. You get it, right? I was like on a Zoom with Brooks, he was getting ice, just ice for his water. Yeah. It's like it took him 12 minutes to get the ice. I was, I'm like, I was like, what? He's like, I'm like, trying to get the ice the little cooker. I know. I do love them. By the way, though, they, they, they, you create, you know, you become very patient.

Oh, my God, the most. You know. Yeah. I'm getting, I'm not going to lie, I'm getting less patient. I am. I'm getting less patient. I'm like fed up at this point. Well, how old are they?

Eight and five. Well, yeah, that's why. Two boys. I mean, they're starting to be... Two boys. I'm like, no, it's time to pick up your clothes and put them in the hamper. Yeah. Like, I'm getting like...

Not the hamper sitting there next to it, but actually in it. It's like I'll find like three random toothbrushes throughout the house. Every day. Every day. They leave them in different places in the house. Toothbrushes? Toothbrushes. In the kitchen.

In my bedroom. In a, in a, in a, in a laundry room. I found, yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Bri brushes her teeth in the scene. I mean, well, she just doesn't leave me.

So she's always right there. It's like, but in my bathroom, usually not hers. Yeah. Yeah. You know. It's different. I will say, like, having an organized home, like, I know I talk a lot about, like, going, like, a really good calendar or, like, really good systems.

Like, that has helped me with having multiple children and working. like really trying to make things easier, again, work smarter, not harder. Like, really, like, how do they live? Like, what do we do? And, you know, it took me a second. I do. I love them playing sports. But at one point, like, you know, when you have your first, everything revolves around him.

You know, Brooks is like, you know, when he was like, he was like, I know you love Scarlet more. I'm like, I do, right, at this moment. But are you kidding me? I'm like my whole world revolves around Brooke Stuber and his, you know, because he's the first, right? Right. Yeah. But we can't play so many things.

We also have to be like a family. We can't be on the road of like, you know. The sports road. I was joking, like, I was joking driving here. But like, I actually don't mind driving sometimes because I get to roll calls or I get to be my myself or I'll listen to a podcast. Like it was kind of nice this morning and a week with. I just didn't want to be late. And I think you hadn't have to figure out how you want your family to live and be.

Like, we can't do everything. They want to do everything. They want to do everything. I think that's where, and, like, my husband and I can get in pretty massive arguments about, like, but he can't. Like, he's not going to get to secondary school if he doesn't. Like, you know, and again, they love to play basketball and baseball. All of them. All of that.

You know, lacrosse. So how do you pay? pick and choose because for me, like, I've, she gets disappointed and I don't want to disappoint her, but she wants to do everything. They're going to start. When she gets to, like, third grade, fourth grade, they start to, you start to see what they like. And you hope that you don't, like, Jennifer Gardner said this yesterday in a meeting at this, at our school, she was like, just front-loading them and saying, like, you're amazing at this or what do you think about that, like, helping them make that decision, you know, like, maybe we don't do this, or we were talking about getting into

schools or, like, you know, whatever school you want, try to front load with your child because you don't want to apply to somewhere, you're not ever going. Right. Right, so try to get ahead of it. I think that's the best advice, like, try to get ahead of it. Say, you know, like, I know how much you love soccer. I know let's try to do this, but like, I don't know that we're going to be able to do it, but, like, you know, let's try it for another six months. Like, you kind of start to, to front load them, where they're like, you know what, I don't, I don't want to do Adderley anymore. I don't want to do, like, they start to also get tired. Yeah.

You'll see, like. Mine are ready. Mine didn't want to do anything. Mine are the opposite. My son was like, I don't want to do anything. So then we're like, okay, well, you're going to try, you know, you're going to try baseball. I don't want to do it. Does baseball, doesn't want to do it.

Second year, we're going to try again. I mean, yesterday. And then he loves it now. Gray, I've never seen Gray really physical. Like, he kicked a stool. He screamed. I had the home at my house, so I was totally, he screamed, I was, probably screamed a good, like, 22 minutes. Like, I looked at the clock, I'm like, I'm sweating in front of these people.

And I'm like, you're good. I was, like, determined not to yell in front of them. But, yeah, I'm like, I am not playing on the cross. I'm like, oh, yes, more. Oh, yeah. I have not go. Like, you do have to. to sometimes nudge them and get them.

Listen, at the end of the day, if they don't want to do something, you ultimately cannot make them. Right. But I do think, especially with the younger ones when they don't want to do anything, I think you have to be careful of like catering to that. I do because sometimes you just, if not, they're not going to do anything. Right. I think it's, yeah.

I'm like, to me, I didn't have to do anything as a kid. Anything I didn't want to do, I didn't have to do. And that did not go well. Like then when it was time to go to school, I'd be like, I don't want to. You know, and that was horrible. And so for me, I'm like, we try. And I, at the end of the day, I am your parent. I make the decision.

You can give feedback and you can help guide me in what interests you. But I'm going, you're going to try it at least two times before we make a decision. I think that's a really, I think that's, if you can do that, I also. I think it helps the child. I think the child doesn't know. Right. No. Yeah.

You know? Yeah. Like I remember, like, how am I going to get her to eat? Like, or how am I going to get him to eat or whatever? And they're like, always do the suggestion that you want. So if it's pasta and steak, always say steak last because that's the first thing they'll remember the last thing you said. That's a little trick. Really?

Especially a little, you're right, though. They're younger. When they're younger. Yeah, no, that's true. Pasta or do you want pasta or do you want? you want pizza. Yeah. And it's weird how, like, that little tricks like that will help too.

Like, even with food, like, having them try things, like, that's, you know, sometimes, like, Brooks hates eggs. I just got great to eat them, like, trying to get protein down them, like, all, like, having, like, a healthy, it's so, I mean, honestly. I know. I know. Just eat the fucking eggs. Like, and just, if you don't like how they smell, hold your nose.

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It is the most unbelievable thing in the world. She, it's... Is she gag? Yeah. Oh, yeah. My Amish's daughter does that. Oh, my God. No. But getting her to do it, it's like your torture, literal torture. She fights it for half an hour. I have to coax her.

it reminded me a fear factor fear factor I love fear factor oh my god was it Joe Rogan fear factor oh god he was right yes

he did a sit on Vegas and he like Joe Rogan like they came they brought fear factor because it was NBC he was so awesome it was fun

really yeah it was like creepy because we had to like do something with like insects but it was fun oh that is

scary so what are you in production on right now because you've a production company we are producing an Amy Schumer movie called Kind of Pregnant and loving me.

With, she's amazing. With Happy Madison, Adam Sandler's company. Aw, I love him too. I know. My school teacher, my first grade teacher gave me a script to, I got given to me to act in. And I, you know, everybody gives you a script. You know, whatever. But she was like, I've got this project and there's this role named Megan.

And I was like, and I read it. I ended up reading it. And I said, I really think you've got something here. You know? And then she kind of told me, like, how it was set up. I was like, you know, if it comes back around, I said, I can't really be involved because I'm not going to make anything or doing it. I'm like. Because I'm not gonna.

Yeah, I'm not really gonna. I'm not really producing. Sure enough, she came back to me like six months later. It was like, would you just try? And I was like, let me think about it. And yeah, it is in production in New York. Wow. Wow.

And I'm super excited. And she actually wrote it for Amy Schumer, which was crazy. I just got chills. I know. And she's your first grade teacher. I actually had the other set of. first grade teachers. But she was one of the first. I was in kindergarten at the time. This was four years ago. It took four years to do it. But yeah, but that is such a big. What a story. That's

so cool. And message of like a woman taking her shot in Kentucky? She's here in California. No, she's here. Her kids teacher. My kids teacher. I thought you went your first teacher. No, I'm sorry. I'm going to say four years ago. I don't think it was in. hers. I was like, oh, I'm thinking this is like old lady in Kentucky. Yeah, Julie Piva's like cute and sweet and fun and young. Totally. All right. We're happy for her, but not as happy as I was for the woman in Kentucky that took a shot. But, no, I mean, listen, it's, you know, it's about a woman who thinks that, you know, she wants a family, she's ready, she's a teacher, all her friends are

teachers and they're getting married and pregnant. And it's R-rated comedy, clearly, with Happy Madison. But it's, so she's been dating Dave and she thinks Dave is going to propose to her. And instead, he asked for a threesome. Oh. It's very fun. And then she accidentally tries on a baby bump. And so she pretends she's pregnant.

It's very funny. Oh, my God. It's really good. And she's just amazing. It's a really good. And Happy Madison, like, they've been just incredible. It's been a really good learning process for me, too, like, to see it from, again, start to, like, just a spec script that someone gives me. And then to see it come alive.

I know. I'm really grateful in that way. That's so cool. And what was weird is one of my very first films was bench warmers with the same group of people. Oh, my God. So I've known that. Bench-Wormers, they didn't do Fired Up, they did a wrong Missy. Oh.

So it was just like, I'm like, Barry? Bernardi? It's just, it's sweet. It's good. It's really cool. It's like full circle. And then we've got a bunch of, I love thrillers, so we have a bunch. We have three projects, three thriller projects at Netflix in development,

a one TV show We have a cooking show That you're doing? No, no, no, no. With a woman named Chef Charity that's going to be on Max, they're going to debut it, I think, in August. Oh, wow.

And to see how that goes, she's really talented. It's about like having an alternative to It's basically having a vegan option. So when you go out and these amazing restaurants having like one option so she goes into Nashville and into a barbecue. It's really it's good. That's fun.

Let's see. I know it's fun. It's a lot. It is a lot. But I feel like you give someone that's capable, something to do and more comes from that. And even when you were talking about your beauty line, I'm like, that's it right there. It's like what are the things you'd be doing if you don't have to do anything, right? And these are the things that you were interested in.

on your own separate. It wasn't like, here, here's a thing that's going to make you feel successful or, you know, it was like... And also I think I, you know, to have more women involved in storytelling, have more women involved in being a CEO or, you know, a founder, you know, just having, like, even the podcast, like having ownership over something. Like, I, I sometimes think women, when they reach a certain age, they're like, well, that's it. You know, kids are gone off to college or, like, And it's just not. Right. You know, like I think, you know, Breyer seeing you as a working mom is not a bad thing.

Right. Right. Like, my kids see me. Like, when I'm, quote, you know, trying to get them to read, I'm like, well, I'm reading. I'm doing my homework. I'm actually really reading. Yeah. Yeah.

Right? So I think they're, them seeing me, like, you know, they'll be like, oh, you're on your Zoom. You know. Yeah. They'll make fun of it too. But or you're taking an Instagram, selfie, you know what I mean? But they, I do think it's a good thing that it teaches. Like that was the one thing like with my mom.

Like I always saw her like get up an exercise and run to companies from scratch. Like we got down to like $5.85. Like, you know, to see her pull that shit together with two little kids and my dad, like that was real. Yeah. So I think, you know, and then making our asses work. until, you know, starting at 15, like she, they were definitely, he just learned what money was. I got to start that.

My son said to me the other day, he's like, how many subscribers do you guys have on YouTube? Yeah. And I was like, I don't know. And I was like, I don't know. And he was like, well, so-and-so has 8.9 million and walks out of the room. And I was like, and it's like some kid opening toys. Yeah, you know what I mean? It's like, unboxing a Lego.

Yeah. He was like, Mom, that's really not a lot. I know. It was so funny. I had them come on for my 50 at them like, don't forget to subscribe. And I'm like, they're like, no more. Because they love YouTube. Sticking.

They love, oh, they love YouTube. They love YouTube kids. I even got sex in the other day. I was watching. They're like, do you think you're. going to be as popular as Mr. Beast. I go, this is who it was, Mr. Beast. No, I'm not. He's amazing, Mr. Beast. And they love, like, they love what he does. He'll do, like, these elaborate challenges. He'll get the brands. Is he like the food person? No. No, that's somebody else. Just kidding. He's, no, not. Just kidding. He does have chocolate bars. I mean. Oh, no, I've seen his bar. He's amazing. He's amazing.

Yeah, he does. His bars at Target. Don't compare to me, Mr. B's. But he does a lot of giving back, too. It's amazing. I love him. Yes. Yeah, I don't know.

It's really cool. My kids are obsessed with that too. It's at least I'm like, at least he's doing something and giving back to people and like, it's good. It's really good. Yeah. But yes, no, I don't have a hundred million. Yeah, that's what it was. Like, a hundred million.

I'm like, thanks for making me feel about. Yeah, I was like, mm. A hundred million. Oh my God. He had hundreds of millions of like, he just did this other giveaway. this challenge, it was like whoever won got $100,000 and they had to go through all, like, it sounds so dumb, like crazy stupid challenges, but it was amazing. Yeah, it's a whole world.

My daughter hasn't gotten, like Roblox, of course. Oh, my kids love that. Yeah, but like that's kind of the extent of it. You're lucky. I know, she's just, I don't know. You're really lucky. Yeah, I know that like once you open that door, I feel like it's, She's...

What? I also do think boys are more interested in the YouTube. Oh, yeah. Is Scarlett? She loves a little YouTube, too. Oh, does she? She loves slime videos. Oh, well, yeah.

She loves all anything DIY, you know, like... That's fun. Hot, like anything. She loves all that. But it's like a time suck. So I put Bark. Have you heard of this app called Mark? I was going to send it to you last night.

What is it? Will you explain it? So, again, I'm not paid. I'm not affiliated. I just... I'm a mom who has... has this app called park. Eventually, I'll get Life 360, but they don't drive.

But a woman was telling me about it a couple of years ago, and it's an app that basically you can shut off their screen time. You can say, okay, I want an hour every day. I want an hour every week. I want two hours every three days. You can say, okay, you can use this channel, but not this channel. To purchase, they have to ask your permission. Yeah.

They've asked your permission. Because they have no idea if they know your Apple ID code, how much they buy. Oh, yeah, I get notification. It's constantly. They also will alert you if they get on an, like, an inappropriate channel. So, right. So if they try to type in corn, P. I mean, my kids aren't there yet.

But if they try to type in something accidentally, knowing or not knowing, it will block it. It'll block it. And it's called bark. And it seems to be working. I mean, they have to ask me for permission if you want. I like it. So you can do one hour, 20 minutes, 15 minutes, or you're done for the week. Yeah.

Ooh, I like it. I like it. You're done for the week. Yeah. Well, I have those notifications on Breyer's iPad. Like, she can't buy anything or anything unless I approve it. Don't you have that? No.

You have to have that. Oh, yeah. You set it up in their iPad. So it's parental approval. Like, they can't get anything. It goes through you. I mean, Elliot's you pretty good about it. He'll come in to ask.

Yeah. You know, if we have to. You just have to watch the eight-year-old showing the five-year-olds. Exactly. So that's how, you know, Brooks showing gray something or scarlet showing, like, that's where, you know, as they get older, you've, that's where it can get tricky, right? Yeah. Yeah. Gray is my son's middle name.

It's the best. Isn't it the best? Yeah, it's a beautiful name. I love that name. So you had Brooks at 40? No. I had, oh, Brooks, yeah. I had Brooks at 39.

39. 39, 40. and then I had Scarlet like 43 and then I had or 42 and then I had gray at 44 45. Wow. I'm 50, no, I had him at 43. Yeah, around 42, 43. Yeah. That's great.

Yeah. Aren't you tired? I'm so tired. I know. Sometimes like I was more self-conscious when I was having him that I'm like, oh, you know, because my husband, you know, his friend, they're going to college and he has like a newborn. Like it was a little, I was like, you know.

But. It made you feel a little. Just like an old mom. I was an old mom to have such young kids. I still am. I mean, I'm 50, right? Yeah. I mean, I just, but it's way more.

Yeah. It's so normal now, you know, because everyone's like, oh, no, you can still, because that's how it should be. Like, who's ready to have a kid at 25 years old? I mean, some people sure. I just think the. I just think you have more. or I really, when I had them, I really wanted them.

Yeah, exactly. Right? It wasn't something that, like, I felt like, oh, my God, I'm going to miss out on or I'm going to miss a savannity fair. I'm going to miss going on a, like, I guess, of course, I miss certain opportunities. I would love to be, like, on a show. Like, I'm sad things I have to give up. But it's not like if I were, like, young and be like, oh, my God, this is going to, like,

make my career and, like, I'm having to give up. Like, I don't feel like, I don't feel like I've given up anything. I feel like I've, the complete option. I've gained so much. Right. I know. Yeah, because you're ready. It's like I've done it all, like enough.

Yeah. Yeah. And when you're younger, I moved to a little town outside, like in Northern California. And I had a baby and all the people were my age, their kids were going to college. I know. And I was like, this is, it made me feel weird. Like when I'd go to like the baby groups and stuff, I was like, oh my God, like some of these people could legitimately be my daughter. that have the babies.

Oh, I know. You know. Right. And I was like, this is weird. But in L.A., it's different. Like, there's so many women that are having babies. I think they're having babies later because they really wanted to try to focus on themselves in a career. Yeah, which is great. Which I think, listen, either way you do it.

Either way you do it. Exactly. For me, that was my mom. My mom had kids later in life. And, you know, I think at one point she was like, when is it happening? Yeah. But, yeah, I think. To each his own, but for me it was definitely the best decision.

I was not capable of taking care of another soul. Right. Let alone three. My mom had me at 39, and I never felt like I had an old mom at all. Yeah. Like not even remotely, you know? Yeah. I think my mom was 30.

Back. Like that generation didn't wait as long. No. No way. Your mom was 30? She was 30, and I always thought like, oh, my mom was old when she had me. You know? That is so funny. Look at a 30-year-old now, though, and you're like, oh.

No, there's no way. I was 33 when she was born. I mean, it's still. It's young. Yeah, but I think of that as young. Yeah. It's just like the flip. It is young. I know.

I was so young. But it sounds like when you're young, it's just different. But you know what's different now? Because I had her at 33, and now I'm like, oh, if I had a baby again, and sometimes you go through that. And you're like, oh, I could do. And then I'm like, no, like, I wouldn't sleep. If you think about it and you're like, I, I. had a puppy. Okay, we got a, I know you know. I know. You have two, right?

I'm trying to. And I'm a bearded dragon named Taco. Oh, yeah. Oh, good for you. How are they as pets? Oh, I need to get the red light. I got to do that. Oh, for. There's like a heat lamp, like a heat red thing. Whatever. It's like, honestly. She keeps like trying for guinea pigs and I'm like, I can, no. They, they, it's not, I'm like, I'm not cleaning that. I'm not doing it. I know. I don't want to do it. I'm not doing it. I know. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. It's the same thing. I don't want to not sleep again. You know, like you think about these things. But then I'm like, oh, I want a baby. But then I'm like, oh, I don't. No. I know. I know. I know. You get to a certain point. I mean, I do. I went over to see a friend of mine's baby yesterday or the day before. I'm like, oh, it's so sweet. But I thought about like, snuggling with the baby and having the time off. And then I'm like, oh, my God. Then I got to raise this baby. And I got to worry about this baby. Then I got to get this baby through school. Then I got to get this baby through life. I'm like, no. No. No. I'm just like I need to sleep. I need to sleep. Yeah. It's a thing.

It's a thing. And I also enjoy working. Like I love having a life outside of my children in those early stages. It's such like a hard balance, you know? I don't really like having other things. I feel like. This is true. I know.

We're a little different in that way. We are different. Like we're taping Family Feud on Friday. Stop it. I love Family View. Oh my God. I know. We love it.

But I'm missing. and I didn't realize parent picnic at Ryers school lunch, and I'm devastated. I know. That's because you have one. I know. You're right. Right. Right.

Okay. You'll miss. It's fine. Okay. Yeah. It happens. I missed her performance the other day. I was so sad.

She'd worked the whole. And I was like, we were shooting, bulk shooting the podcast. Yeah. And I was like, but it was owed to the code. I was like, I looked at it on Zoom. You look at her on a Zoom. She did it really well. How'd she take it when you can't, like, she was fine.

She's got Scott there. One of us is always there. Yeah. Yeah. Her dad'll be there. Her dad will be there. Yeah. Okay.

He'll be happy for her. The mom guilt, you know. Oh, mom guilt is real. You know, it's really, I. It's really real. It's really, really real. But then sometimes I'm like, oh, I can't do that. Like, lately in the past year, I'm like, I think because I've been,

working a little bit in a different way. I've kind of given myself a little bit of grace. I'm like, okay, I can't do that, right? Or I can't, you know, sometimes we have to sign up for like sign up genius. And I'm like, you know, used to never be. So I'd always miss the sign up. But finally I went to the teacher and she's like, what are you doing? I go, the same parents get to do the same things because they're in front of a computer

in there. And I'm like, and I miss it. So today, here's a cake. And we're going to, like, she was like, I said, I don't want. I want to bring the water. And I want to bring just a fucking water. Yeah. I love that.

I don't want to bring the water. I always miss the sign up for pizza. Like, you have to bring something for pizza day. And the worst one is fruit because you bring 200 pieces of the same kind of fruit. I know for the whole school. And I always get the fruit because I'm always late. Yeah. And other people bring the brownies and the paper plates and the treats.

And the trees. Or like you get to volunteer to be in the room. Yeah. And if you miss it. But I did, you know what? I did, I am room parent this year because I hadn't done it. Ooh. That's a big. It's a lot, but then you're there for all the parties. I know. And I've been able to this year. So like, it's okay. You know what I think matters to is how we frame it. So it's like if we have to miss something, we're like, I feel so bad. Like I really want to be there, but I can't. It's like, then they're like, oh, I should feel bad about this. Right. You know what I mean? Right. They're going to play into that guilt and be like, oh, I feel bad as opposed to I. will be at this, though.

And it's just like, I work. Well, I've told you, like, Drew Barrymore had said that once. She's like, I tell my kids, like, I get to go to work. It's not like, I have to go to work. I know. Or I need to go. Like, I get to. And I'm like, that's such an interesting, like, if I could.

But I can't remember that all the time. I'm like, oh, I'm so sorry. I feel so I wish I could. Right. But then she's going to be like, oh, I should. You're signaling her. Well, it's framing is how we frame it. Right.

Right. Right. But it's so hard. I have getting to myself a little bit more grace. just because, I mean, I'm around a lot. Yeah. I am, my momming. All the games.

I'm moming. I mean, I am, you know, a mom and. Yeah. Yeah. That's why the point of, you can't do everything. That's why I said to Brooks. I'm like, we can't play five sports. I would never see your siblings.

Like, right. Right. Like, we physically can't. Yeah. You know. But I do think, listen, whatever they do, I think having them be on some sort of a team, having to, you know, deal with conflict or, you know, deal with not being good at something, learning, like, it's not so much, like, about the sport is what I love.

I like soccer. I like lacrosse. I like all of them. But it's more about, you know, figuring out how to get better at something or be involved with something or making a play with someone or not being selfish and being the asshole who always shoots. It's like, you know, helping your partner. Like, there are a lot of things that are, I learned a lot playing sports. That has really helped me, even with leading a company and leading a team, right?

Like how to be a team player. Right. It's so important. Some people are not team players. No. No, they're not. Nope. And that's okay.

It shows up. It shows up. They should paddle board. They should. But also, you know, I grew up my whole life. My mom would always say, don't give up five minutes. before the miracle. That was like her main thing she would always say. I love that. Don't you love that? I don't think you've ever said that before. I love that. I tell myself all the time that,

not five minutes before the miracle, right? And Elliot tried sports. He hated it. And then we said, let's try again. And he cracked his first home run this week. And he's like, I love it. It's the best thing that ever happened. Yeah. And I was like, that's, I was like, babe, that's the perfect example of not giving up five minutes before the miracle. If we, it's such like a metaphor for life of like, yes, we might not like it. Yeah, it might be hard. But if we keep showing up, we might hit a whole. And also, it's like also not about the outcome.

I think we are so outcome based. I'm, you know, I want to like do well or get the A or, you know, win that. But I think trying not to focus on the outcome has been really helpful for me to, like, guide them, you know? Yeah. Because they do feel the pressure, you know? Of course. Yeah. It's just a really, it's just a difficult balance.

Oh, yeah. You know, push them, but let them, you know. For sure. But let them, you know, I think for me the hardest thing is like letting them make mistakes. Mm-hmm. Yeah. You know. I said, you know, Scott was like, if you leave your work one more time, like we're not going back.

What do you mean? Yeah. Like if he doesn't pack his work in his backpack in the morning and we have to go back and get it. Oh. Oh, got it. That's on you. Yes. It's on you.

It's on you. If you don't have your uniform. That's on you. That's on you. That's right. And it doesn't take a lot. Like I set Brooks up the other day. I know.

So we are two hours away. It's bucking cold. It's raining. Super comes to see it. I'm with Scarlett. They're both playing an lacrosse game. He takes off his jersey, and the jerseys are $70. It's like a $125 package.

There's only one. Right. That's it. Right. That's it. Mm-hmm. Scott said, you need to take that jersey out of your pocket and put it in your gear. And he goes, okay, he asked him again.

You need to take that out. I didn't know all this. That night, go back to the hotel, like, everything, okay? Got it all got all your stuff. Yeah. And he goes, where's your jersey? And he goes, oh, yeah. I go, did you lose that fucking jersey?

And he goes, no, no, no, no. I was like, where is the jersey? And he was like, no, it's got to be in here. Like, no, I know I put it in here. I'm like, okay. And go, well, there's going to be a consequence if you've lost the jersey. And I go, he goes, what's the consequence? I go, one month, no iPad.

And he goes, it's got to be there now. He's got someone that got to find it. Next morning, 7.30, we go to Lost and Found. No Jersey. And he's like, I go to his coach. I said, we don't have a jersey. I'm so sorry. Well, he has to go to the coach. And I back up. I'm like, I'm sorry. I don't know. They give him a new, they give him one to borrow. And he's like, devastated. I'm like, okay, it's one month now. So the girl, Cassie and Farrell calls me and she goes, I think I'm, I think I'm, I'm devastated. I'm like, okay, it's one month now. And I'm like, okay, it's one month now. So I'm like, so the girl, I think I think I'm have Brooks's jersey.

Oh. And I told him that I never found it. It was evil. But I really needed him. Wanted him to learn the lesson. Yeah. And so I said a couple weeks later, I'm like, oh, they ordered you a new one. Here it is.

It was his same one. And it was a complete and utter lie. Did you do no month? One month. Wow. That must have been hard for you, though. Wow. He figured it out.

It was. Guess what? He's never going to lose his jersey again. He's not going to lose his journey. No, they need to learn these things. Don't you feel, here's the thing. She's like, never lie. I'm like, there is a time. She just looked at like, bitch. There is a time for lying. Okay. I lied and I completely owned it. Yeah. I completely owned it. We had told him 75,000 times. If you lose your jerseys, this is on you. Right. They're expensive. And I cannot. replace them. Right. Yeah. Because the number and like it's a whole thing. You can only normal like one time,

like why are you going to order? And also it's a fucking waste of money. Yeah. Yeah. No, I, I totally get that. And so, you know, I justify my lie. And I know it's probably wrong. And I felt really guilty for a while. But then I was like, I'm not telling him. See, but that's different. That's, that's not a lie. that's a lie by omission in a way. But it's not like, it's not. Like a straight up. No. Is it?

That's pretty, yeah, I pretty much said. He was like, you never found it. I go, no, never found it. Oh, yeah. Well, you didn't find it. You didn't find it. Like, I didn't go get Brooks's jersey over here because it had fallen out. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

On that side of the feet. I mean, this is like a massive four-mile, you know. Yeah. But again, like, money doesn't go on trees, grow on trees. and I thought, okay, this is my moment where I can make a real difference. Yeah, I know it sounds. No. But yes, I lie all the time.

I talked about this last night with my friend, because for spring break, we took the kids on a trip, and it was a road trip, and it's like two and a half hour drive, and we've been driving a while, and it was still like another hour and a half and a half hour. And I'm like, well, half hour. They have no concept. Oh, yeah. We'll leave. We'll have four hours in the car. I'm like, yeah, we'll be there in five minutes. Oh, yeah, I lie all the time.

I take off the Waze. So if Waze has 22 minutes, oh, I'll flip that shit on my phone so they can't see it. Oh, yeah, girl. Oh, yeah. Yeah, lie all the time. Oh, yeah. You tell a child there's three hours and seven minutes left in the journey. Oh, yeah, and good luck.

Good luck to that. You know how many times they're going to ask? No, you don't have to pee. We're not stopping. No. You don't have to pee. Yeah, and we're not stopping. We'll be there in 20 minutes.

Be there in two hours. Hold it. Hold it. Oh, my God, I love it. I'll be like soon, don't worry. Or if you ask one more time, X-I-N-Z. Oh, yeah, me too. You know what I mean? Like, yeah, yeah, yeah. We're getting there. It's close. We're getting there. Not far. Not much longer. Not much longer. Just five hours. Yeah. Just a little bit. I'm car sick.

But I think too. This is the best. I'm car sick. Yeah. We have only been in the car for one minute. I'm car sick. I'm like, you're not, how could you car sick. We haven't been in the car but four minutes. My God. I feel it. I feel it. I feel it. I feel it's happening. It's not feel it. Oh my God. There'll be a fly on the wall. All right. I'll start lying, guys. I know. It's really, it's worth it. It'll help the cause. It'll help the cause. I mean, come on. She has three kids. See, I feel like my cause is to teach them disappointment. Where I'm like, yeah, they still get disappointed. You're disappointed. You're disappointed. You're disappointed. I'm going to feel with it. Like, it is what it is.

No. You know? I don't. I do the op. I'm terrible. I'm terrible at that too. I'm like, it's going to be awesome.

It's going to fucking suck. Yeah. Right? It's going to be great this shot. Yeah. I can never get to feel it. Like, you're going to feel everything. Yeah,

I'm like, it's going to hurt really bad. Oh. But you get a popsicle. I know. I know. But you get a popsicle. I know. Briar just signed up for softball.

She's never played it before. Oh, it's so cute. Has Scarlet done it? No. Oh. But she played baseball for a little bit. She played baseball. Yeah.

I played baseball. I didn't do softball. But they were like giving them positions. And Briar thought she got like the worst position and they were moving everybody. And it was like, that's the best position you can play. Like, and the fact they didn't move you, they rely on you. Like you can do that. And she was like lit up.

And I'm like, listen, I don't need to feed disappointment. I'm going to make you turn. You're in the outfield where no one's going to get to you. Don't worry. Oh, see. I do that opposite. I'll be like, you got that position because you're new. You're going to work your way up to the other one?

You know what? I do a balance of it. It doesn't mean that you're the worst player if you're in the outfield. No, for our teams, they constantly. You're the worst player. I'm not that on it. You're like I'm that on it. Yeah, no, they moved them.

Yeah, you're new. You got that position. It was like the first practice. They're just putting kids places. She was bummed. She didn't get a base. And I was like, honey, this is your first time throwing a ball? You got to hold up.

Hold up. Yeah. You guys are amazing. You're amazing. Love you guys. Enjoy this movies. Love you. How is everybody's week?

So good. So good. So good. You? Good. Have I seen you every day this week? We didn't see each other yesterday. That's why your week's so good.

That's why your week's so good. That's so rude. Where were you yesterday? I don't know. Oh, you went to a volleyball game. No, that was Tuesday. Oh. What was yesterday?

Yesterday was Wednesday. Oh, I met Sarah. Yeah, but where was I? I don't know. I literally cannot remember yesterday. I mean, I'm the same way. I see someone on like Monday. Was that yesterday?

Yeah. I see someone on Monday and they ask me how my weekend was and I have to reference my calendar to figure out. Do you actually go like hold on? Yeah, check. Sometimes if I actually, if it's going to be a conversation, that's not like with the barista. for 15 seconds. What's your favorite part of today? Coming to see you guys.

I believe that. I do too. Yeah, I mean, I saw a plumber today, contractor, and then you guys, and you guys were the highlight. I think we drive him nuts. Have you ever been to highlight coffee? No. Accurate. But then when you're with us, you love us.

Love us. Rob got here today and I opened the door and he was instantly not talking to me upon arrival. He tried to jump kick me in the head. Legitimately in the hallway. He tried to jump kick me in the head. Not, I didn't try to. I faked. He's like I did.

I faked kicked you in the face. But it wasn't just like a little, it was like a whyia. Like at the top of my head. I didn't make that noise, though, for the record. Yeah. What if you were like Miss Piggy and you were like? Karate. Karate noises?

Yeah. Okay. He's got some leg flexibility. Can you kick your leg all the way up to your head? Yeah. Like, can you hold it? He can. He kicked it up to the top of my head.

What should have expression was? Flexibility. No. What expression. It was high as something? Highest giraffe's pussy. Where did that come from? Where did that come from?

Where'd you hear that? My brother. I knew you were going to say your brother. He was like, that's who it is highest giraffe's pussy. And I was like, her brother has the best expression. He does. They're quite phenomenal. Does he come up with them or he hears them somewhere?

You can't both, huh? Absolutely both. But they stick with him. Like, you know how? you're like, oh, I have to stick that and use it again. And then you forget, he remembers it and uses it again. Yeah, because I like the expressions that people get wrong. Like what?

I don't know. I don't have an example. It's like my wrong lyrics, but yeah, yeah, yeah. Of like, this is a saying, right? And then they say it and it's not at all, but it's still fun. Like as high as an elephant's pussy. Elephant? No, giraffe.

He's getting it wrong on purpose. Yeah. Right? That's what you were doing? there? So he said that to me and he's like, you've never heard that? And I'm like, I've never heard that in my life. Ever. Ever. And then

he's like a week later, he comes in the room. He's like, just hands me the phone and it's Mike Tyson. He's like, yeah. I was like, how is your ass? Pussy. He's like, wait, wait, wait. Mike Tyson was calling you? Yeah. I'm friends with Mike. I want to be like Mike. Oh my God. That just came into my head. Was that a jingle? Of course.

I want to be like Mike. It was a song. Like Michael Jordan. I want to be. I want to be. What was it? Yeah. I'm trying to think I remember.

It was, yeah. And there was a movie with, I think, Little Bow Wow. This means she's about to get serious. Yeah, yeah. She's about thinking serious, but it's something very mundane. Do you guys know my hidden talent? Getting lyrics wrong. That jingles.

Yes. What do you think were new? Yes. I feel like Rob didn't know that. Yes, he did. Sing him some. No, like I really, you know my memory. I have none.

Yeah, great memory. But I remember a jingle like a mother. Mother. Please do you share. Mother. What are your top five favorite jingle singing? She's like, well, I don't really know it. It doesn't matter.

It's liquid chlorox too. Makes colors pretty and white's bright too. Liquid chlorox too. Guys. It's the only one? No, but that one I just had ready. Do you have more? Of course I have more.

I taught one to Briar. Did we talk about this? And then she started singing it. Now I can't remember which one it was. Sherwin Williams. A Sherwin Williams. Yeah, why don't you quiz and see? Yeah, that's think of the jingle.

Yeah. Or a pet boys. Pep boys? Pep boys. Do you know it? No. It has to be ones who know it exists. Well, it exists.

I don't recall it. When you were a kid, do you remember the Go see Cal, go see cow, go see cow. And did you think it was? Yes. You did, right? Absolutely. And she's back to them. Did everyone think it was that?

It was giraffe's pussy. Yeah, everyone thought it was, mm-mm-cow, m-cow. Oh, you won't get a lemon. I wouldn't have got a lemon from Toyota of Orange. No, you won't get a lemon. This is regional. So do you know, okay, Bob Rorman? What?

We don't know him. No. It had a good one. I don't remember it. Oh, Bob. You want me to get that Bob Rorman jingle? I don't know who Bob Rorman is. Bob Rorman is.

What was the one that I was singing and how Breyer sings it? I don't know. I'm drawing a blank. Well, there was like, my buddy, my buddy, wherever I go, you're going to go, my buddy, my buddy, my buddy and me, kid's sister. You want Bob Rorman? We know. So bad. When it comes to automobile, there's only one.

Bob Ryman. Is that Chicago? Yeah. Did you have a... Did you guys have Eagle Man? Do you know about Eagle Man? Nope. Eagle Man's pretty classic.

Do you have insurance in this car? No. It must be Eagle Man. This is so sick. I've got something for you. Look at those long... All right. Eagle guarantees the rules for a week.

Can we reenact that? Then Rob be the eagle? I'm all for an Eagleman reenact me all. Wait, Rob, look up top 10 jingles of all times and see if we get them. It's like you're going to guess them. Oh, yeah. It's going to be the orange. No, it's not going to be the orange, but ask us some lines. I wouldn't have got a lemon.

You wouldn't have got a lemon. Okay, you want me to read them. and then you're going to try it too. This is our favorite ever. We're happy. All right, McDonald's. What? Filo fish.

Fileto fish had its own jingle? Give me that fileto fish. Toys R Us? Yeah. I don't want to grow up. I'm a Toys R Us kid. There's a million things of Toys R Us that I can play with. From Bikes to J.

Let's cap this out like the first two three lines. I can't guarantee that I'll get the lyrics right, however. Folders coffee. The best part of waking up is folders in your cup. Alka-Seltzer? I was about to go, ah, Alka-Seltzer, like, Helter-Skelter. I was about to go like heartburn, turn, diarrhea.

Tindiguria. Okay, no. That was plop, plop, plop, fizz, fizz. That's an old one. don't know it. Kit Kat. Oh, break me. Break me off a piece of that Kit Kat bar.

Give me a break. Give me a break. McDonald's, I'm loving it. Oh, well, that's like 2000. That's just like, I'm loving it. How do you do it? It was Justin Timberlake. No.

Oh, yeah, that is actually. He existed. No. But it was him singing it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He did the jingle of I'm loving it. No, but that has existed way before. for him.

Yes. Okay. I believe you. I don't know. It's like, I just remember him singing it. Oscar Meyer. Um,

oh, I wish I were in Oscar Meyer ween. Oh no. That's not it. My baloney has a first name. My baloney has a first name. It's O-S-C-A-R. My baloney has a second name.

It's M-E-Y-E-R. We got it. We got it. What did I think? Yours is also one. Also, yeah. Yeah, I've heard yours. Thanks.

What is it? I can't do it again. Yeah, I forgot already. Meow Mix. Oh, um, Meow Mix, Meow Mix, please deliver. What is it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.

That is it. This is my talent. Chili's? Yeah. Chili. What do you say? I want, baby, back, baby, back, baby, back, baby, back, baby, back, baby, back, baby, back, Justin Timberlake is also in this song.

Agreed. Yeah, agreed. I do agree with that. Um, Coca-Cola. I'd like to teach the world to sing. I'd like to teach the world to sing in perfect harmony I don't think I know this one I just know that song Chia pet

Chia Chia I'm going this is just honorable mentions at this point Oh we're getting honorable mentions Huggies Huggies I'm a big kid now I'm a big kid now 877 cars for kids

877 cars for kids Yeah Cars for kids Nailed it Klon dog bar What would you do for a Klandak Bar? Nationwide Nationwide is on your side

Peptobismal Is that heartburn Indigestion Dioia I did a peptobismal commercial You guys Oh yeah that's right I sure did.

Dude, I crashed it with you and I got kicked out. The audition. Yes. Not the kind of American commercial. Ricola. Recola. State Farm. State Farm?

Do they have a song? They do this every White Sox game. Sing the song? So you sing it for us. Like a good neighbor, state farm. Oh, yeah. Duh. Like a good neighbor.

State Farm is there. All right. Last one, subway. $5 foot long. $5 foot long. $5 foot long. You also did a subway commercial. I did a subway commercial too.

That, if anyone hasn't seen, can we play it? What? Your subway commercial? No. If you've seen it, Rod. No. What? Rob's going to have way too much of.

We. Mass and spicy. It's the best subway commercial there's ever been. Take that. Jared. Oh, dear. I don't think it's findable. Eat fresh.

It's, yeah, it's findable. Oh, my God, you guys. You are working? I work. I'm a sandwich artist. It's the best. The Chipotle Southwest steak and cheese, is it a while spicy, spicy,

somebody help me. Or is it, ooh, we, that is nice and spicy? Or is it, hey, hey, you call it. You call it. that spicy. Sort of ooh-wee, that is nice and spicy. I'll take it. Nailed it. Nailed it.

That is the best role I've ever played. I remember this commercial. Do you? I do remember this commercial. Oh, we. Nice and spicy. Yeah, that was right, that was like right before I filmed the pilot for the O.C. Right before your big break.

Do you attribute that subway commercial? That's the reason I played summer. I mean, I can see it. It was a good commercial. I remember what I bought with my first, like, real paycheck when I started working. What'd you buy? A couch. What was the first thing you guys bought with your first job, like your first paycheck?

Food. You're like drugs. I bought my own braces. I did. I did. I did. I bought my own braces. I bought music.

Like a CD? From the record shop. next to where I worked. What was it? No idea. You can't even guess like what it might be. Nope. You're no fun. I remember when I was like a teenager and had a job. It felt like a flex to be able to go into like bath and body works and like buy the lotion. What was your scent? What was your scent? What was your scent? I don't remember. Do you remember how big cucumber melon was? I do. I use Everyone used cucumber melon. And then I did like a vanilla.

I was going to say my signature scent was back in the day, lip smackers had sprays and they had a vanilla. Yeah. And that was my smell. And then my friends all got it. Yeah. That always happened.

And I didn't love that. I know. How do you feel about personal smells though? I used to be like really. Yeah. Like that's my smell. But now I'm not like that because I'm an adult. Is it just youth?

Yeah. It's youth. Okay. If people are still doing that in their older age, that's silly. It's very silly. And just wondering if people still would care about that. I don't know, but I used to care a lot. I didn't like it when someone would pick my favorite color.

I'm not even big. I would be like, no. Yeah, I know. We all used to be like that. Like, we all loved purple. My whole life I've loved purple. But in high school, like lavender was really big. I would imagine people still go mad, but they're younger.

I don't think people your age. are still getting mad about it. But how would you feel if people, that actually brings up a great point. If someone copies you. If someone copies you in any way. Because that happens a lot, especially on like Instagram now because you're giving a lot of people give access to their life. So it could be like their interior design, their clothing choice.

Like you can see what everybody's doing. Like do you find it a compliment if someone copies you? or does it still irk you a bit? Wait, what context? Yeah, I don't think I have an example of people copying you a lot, Olivia. On your Instagram post, you're seeing, like, just let my brother move in with me. She's like, that was my thing. I have the big brother.

No, but. You feel like your interior design has been ripped off? Or if someone picks, like, the same thing as you. Like if you're like Like the sandwich at the airport? I'm going to paint my kitchen Dark green And you're like

That's really different and cute And then you're like Would that bother you? Sally painted her kitchen I mean I think Dark green now I think this is all dependent on who does it Like someone you don't like does it

You're going to be pissed But if Rachel does it You're not going to care I mean this I don't care Or if Rachel does it you're going to get pissed You guys do Rachel does it I'm going to get pissed If you did something, I would be so best.

I'm just kidding. How do you feel now about people copying you? I don't care. I don't care. People have been copying her since like 2001. Yeah, but that doesn't mean she likes it. In Subway? She used to get so.

Well, like, if there was like a unique thing that I had and like someone, we're talking like 18 years old, you know, in high school. Yeah, I'd be like, dude. Olivia's talking about now, though. Yeah, now I don't care. I'm talking about those jeans. What jeans? I'm joking. Oh.

No, I do not care at all now. But yeah, of course, in high school, I mean, you're young, whatever. And if it was something that you were really, really excited about and then someone got it, it would bring up feelings inside me. You too. I used to get like that. Yeah. I feel like you still get that way a little bit. Me?

Yeah, it seems like it. I don't get like that at all. Seems like it. No, you're just. No, but your Instagram, you post some... Who copied you on Instagram that you're harboring this resentment over? No, I'm not playing your reindeer games. The kitchen?

No, it's not the kitchen. You did post a couple photos of the work you did at your house in Granite Bay. He's trying to... He's trying. He's trying to provoke me. He's really trying. Here's the difference, okay? This is the only time it's annoying.

It would never be annoying with us because we'd be like, I like that. Can I borrow it or wear it? You'd be like, get it, get it, yes, great. But the people that pretend not to notice and then come the next day wearing it. Wait, has that happened? I felt like that when I walked in, then you guys were in those Mabelene sweaters. He was jealous. Hey, Mabelene.

We need another white sweater. This is a public service announcement. I wore a white sweater last week here. And you guys copied me and ordered those sweaters. Hey, listen. It pissed me all. This sounds very juvenile. Like what you're doing with your hair.

How's it look? Nationwide is on your side. I wouldn't have got a lemon. Eagle man. I got something for you. Wait, I'm trying to. I wish I could think of the one that I taught prior because it's really important. Yeah, because now we sing it now.

Hmm. Oh. Um, I know what it is. I know what. Um, almond joy's got nuts. Mounds don't be calls. Sometimes you feel like a nut. Sometimes you don't.

So Breyer will be like, Mounds don't. Okay, that's our thing. I'm so happy I remember. Do you feel better know? That was on the other old mention list that I skipped over. You skipped. And I would have been like, that's the one. Do you like it?

Fistee on it. Oh. Do I like what, that jingle? Almond joys are mounds, is your question. Neither. You don't like coconut? Nope. Not particularly.

Interesting. Has to be almond joy. Almond joy. I don't really do candy either. You don't do candy at all? Not. Just those mint things from Chicago? I mean, I don't really do those either.

I like them, but I don't, I'm not ordering those. What do you order? Just donuts? What time? How time do you eat dinner? Depends. I need a ballpark here. Yeah, we need a ballpark here.

A 5.5.30 if everyone is eating, but sometimes I'll forget to eat lunch and have like a three o'clock lunch. And then that means I'm going to have dinner at like eight by myself. Do you eat by yourself in your basement office? Well, if I'm working still. It's so sad. Okay, yeah, a couple nights a week. I could see that for you. You've probably seen that.

Yeah, I think I have, actually. Hmm. Huh. My mom's staying with her uncle, and he's 92 in Miami, and she said that she's having a hard time because they eat dinner at 10 p.m. I was like, 10 p.m. She's still there? She only been there for three days. 10 p.m.?

Wow. Huh. I think that's crazy. That is crazy. I love because we're all like, no, five, five 30. Five, five 30. We eat dinner, even if I'm not with my kids. I mean, like, different countries do that. No, I prefer eating early. If you go to, like, I think it's like Spain. They eat at like 10 o'clock. That's like normal. But they nap. They nap. They do. Yeah, sure. If I was napping and like, then you get back up and eat, like, okay, I'll move to Spain. She loves a nap. Uh-huh.

Anything else? Any closing thoughts? Remarks? Arguments? Rob's got plenty of those. One time I was going to, we were writing a paper in English class and my friend was writing it too. And they said, you know, pick a stance and have your argument on whatever you choose, right? They gave us like different things to choose from. And so then they're like, and swap at the end with your partner and read each other's papers. And she argued herself. I was reading it and I was like,

argued herself? You know, they're like, say your argument. So she thought that meant have an argument with yourself in the paper. This was your partner? This is a friend I am still friends with. Is it right? She argued herself. She'd be like, well, I think this, well, I don't see it that way.

I'm just like, wait, no, no, no. I think you're supposed to pick a stance and argue it. Did you tell her you think she did it wrong? Or were you codependent? Or were like, this is great? I think I said, I don't think you're supposed to argue yourself in it like you did. Like, I think you're supposed to pick aside and argue it. But don't do the rebuttal.

Were you always confrontational? Like, did you? No, you're not afraid of confrontation. Is that a, that's an accurate statement about you? call it communicative. Sure, but you're not afraid. You're not going to hold something back and not say it because you're afraid it's going to hurt someone's feelings or were you always that way?

I don't know. She doesn't, she can hold back and not say things. Yeah, but I find usually a way to communicate something. Yes, it might not be directly what she really wants to communicate, but she'll find a way to communicate enough of what. she's trying to or what she wants to. Yeah, I didn't mean that was a bad thing. Sometimes you feel like a nut.

Sometimes you don't. Wheat calls. All man, Joy's got nut. Mounds don't. You go mounds don't. Mounds don't. Okay, thanks, everybody. That was a hate gum podcast.