Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - Nadine Crocker on True Crime, Friendship, and Mental Health

Episode Date: September 2, 2024

Director, actor, writer, producer Nadine Crocker talks with Rachel and Olivia about her new film Continue and what led her to make this inspiring film. They also discuss true crime and Hannah Montana. Continue hits theaters, Friday, September 6th. Broad Ideas is sponsored by Posh Peanut. Go to postpeanut.com/broad and use promo code BROAD for 20% off your first order. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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People die. Speaking of families, my brother last night, he called me because we were like working something up. He's like, I'm going to Buffalo Wild Wings. It's on Saturday morning. On Saturday morning. At like 9 a.m. for a fantasy football draft with my plumber. I was like, I love you.

Have you met her brother? No. Oh, my God. I've heard so much about him, but I've never met him. He's a vibe. He's a mood. He's a way of life. 100% he's like, I'm going to Buffalo.

I was like, what? Anyways. Can I just be fair, though, that I... He's the best. I feel like we, like, we as women, and maybe there are women who are into sports. Maybe... Are you guys into sports? I like sports.

So, so into it. She is not at all. Oh, me either. I don't know anything. And whenever guys are like, oh, I'm going to my fantasy football league, I'm like, why don't we have something like that? Yeah, we're all silent right now. What can we have that's like that?

I'm like, that we gamble on it, because they'll all be like, I want a $500 pot for the fantasy football league. I'm like, great. So you pretend people are on your team, even though they're not. And you're like, and you get to, like, what do we get to do that's like that? We should do it with like murders. What? I'm all contacts.

Need more contacts. Like we predict, like, was it the husband? Was it the thing? And then, like, what? Like, clue? Like, you put the money on. I'm really into clue. So I'm kind of been on this.

You guys. But you're really, really into crime. She like, I know, I know. That's really all you watch. You'd be like, who do you think murdered? And I'd be like, oh, my God, who was murder? Like, you know what I mean? You are, you are.

She just wants to solve cases over here. She does. She does have a pool. Yeah. I told Jeff last night, we were going to sleep. I said, Jeff, don't murder me, please. What? And he's like, what?

And I said, listen, the statistics of me being murdered, being married, being married. are so much higher than those of being single. What? Yeah. Who? It's always like, when you marry someone, you're going to get murdered, okay? That's who done it.

Or you're going to murder someone. They're going to drive you insane. This is so true. She's been locked up in her house for 10 days, and all she's been watching is like murder thrillers and like Netflix. You need to stop. And I was like, you need to stop murdering me. I can't live like this.

And I said, I just need you to know no matter what the circumstances, I don't deserve to die. I said, if you get a separate family, just divorce me. You don't need to murder me. Yeah. You can just be with them. It's fine. Just don't kill me. And welcome to Olivia's brain, everybody.

But like my parents do have this conversation all the time because my mom's obsessed with, like, the ID chain. and like all of those like shows, like kind of like the shows you tell me about. And my dad was like, if something happens to me, you know, I'm buried in the back. And she was, I can't remember. She was like, no, I would use a wood chipper

and a this, this and this. And then I would dissolve your body with. And he was like, I now realize she's actually been thinking about this. Because she's watched these shows for so long. She's like, no, I know how I would get away with it. I was like, seen. I mean, my mom might actually be driven. My dad's a pain in the ass. He might get murdered.

And you know how it's going to go down. Yeah. But have you seen that like someone, I don't know remember the backstory, but basically like a mouse disintegrated in Mountain Dew. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah. And so someone's like, well, can't you just decompose, like get rid of a body if you put it in a bunch of Mountain Dew? I don't know. Okay, anyways, whatever. There. And wait, wait, wait, I want to say this is going to happen. This is going to happen. and they're all going to blame it on patrol. They're going to bring you back to like, we heard it on broad items.

Because someone tried to sue saying they found a mouse in their can or something, and then they were like, that's not possible because the time it takes from X to, you know, getting into a store and then be whatever, the mouse would have disintegrated by that. That's like there was something. People are going to know what I'm talking about. And they're going to be, yes, I read that too. I get all my news and my sources.

Do you know the number one thing that kills pregnant women? God damn it. We'll move on. What? Being victimized. The number one way pregnant women die is from being murdered. Are you kidding me? Number one.

That's an actual statistic. That's a freaking statistic. Isn't that sick? What the fuck have you been watching? Lacey Peterson. Oh. So that happened like close to. to my home town. Oh, yeah. They were Redwood City's court. Yeah, and my sister has like, I kind of don't even

want to say, because like, but she's tied to someone who was a part of that and like, hmm? Like she. What? Yeah. I'm like, do I say this up? But yeah, she knew the person who was dating him. Oh, she knew Ashley Frye. Is that her name? I thought it was Amber. Amber Frye? Yeah. Something like that. Yeah. You guys. Wow. We're doing our fantasy football. right now. See, this is like what I'm saying. Oh, my God. Oh, my God.

If you guys start a podcast like about like murder and all of these things, can I just be a part of it? You know. I just want to be murder? No. No. I don't want to be on the podcast as one of the victims. I would like to like, I'll even just, I'll hold the cameras. I'm sorry to be part.

I did cleanse my brain, though, and I started the Dallas Cowboys documentary. Oh, I have. I have that downloaded. Like, I do this psycho and then I cleanse it with something like, you know, golden girls, like clean the brain. Yeah, of course, you have to. Yeah. I did that with Briar. I finally showed her. You'd have to watch 32 things to cleanse it.

You told me it takes 10 positive to take out a negative. So I need you to watch 10 Golden Girls episodes to cleanse that brain. Fucking done. Easy. That's easy, pizy. So I showed Briar Honey, I shrunk the kids for the first time. And I remember when I was little, like, auntie, like, really affected me. Remember the aunt who defends them and dies?

Oh, yeah. Anyway. Briar cried, too. And I was like, I didn't know if I should warn her before she walked because she's a sensitive kid, you know? But I didn't. And I just let her experience it. And she cried and I said, I used to do the same thing when I was little. So after the movie, we had to put something like light on because she was very sad about auntie.

Yeah. So what did you put on light? I know. Lighter than honey I should have to kids. Yeah. Yeah. I had to run on something like. Yep.

Welcome to my life. No, I love that. Okay. What did you put on? I don't remember. I don't know, some sitcom, but like a kid sitcom or something. Whatever. I like, kid sitcoms.

She does. You're like, are you watching Hannah Montana? I am in. I mean, it was my first acting role. This is right? What? Hannah Montana? Yep.

Wait, when? What? Because Briar was watching it. My very first episode, it was. Oh, God, I used to know the episode name because I got residuals that always had it. I had one line. I didn't even have a name. It was pretty girl.

It was like my first role. And I've told you this. Miley was the nicest human ding to me. And I think we both had tattoos and like the thing. Yeah. And she really like took care of me. And when I came in, she was like, oh, my God, you're so cute. Like, don't know.

And she said, she goes, no. None of you guys, every time someone cute comes in here, they put them in pink and they put them in this and like they wash away their cool style. They were like, she was like, don't put her in pink or purple. And like, yeah, she was so sweet to me. And we hung out all day on set and like gabbed. But the other thing was that was like a weird coincidence is my father. And this kind of like leads us into a little bit of that continues that my father was a country singer in Nashville. That's why I was born in Nashville.

And he had the same manager as Billy Ray Cyrus and Garth Brooks. No way. And so he was like supposed to be the next big pop after Billy Ray Cyrus and achy-breaking heart. And what ended up happening is my grandfather took his life. And so my dad gave up and gave up on his dreams. But, you know, I always felt like, you know, he always loved Billy Ray Cyrus and Garth Brooks and loved that connection.

And I always knew about it. So I told Billy Ray when we were on set. And A, he was the nicest soul I've ever met. But B, he invited me and my dad and our whole family to his show that was that weekend in Las Vegas. What? And my family, we had like a wedding or they had a wedding or something. And so they couldn't go, but we really tried to go. And he kept in contact trying to invite me to another show so his dad could come out.

And like, so they were really kind to me. So I've always had this like sweet spot for like Hannah Montana and their whole family. Aw. Yeah, but. I never knew that. story. My one line was back off helmet hair. Oh, that sounds like a real good Hannah Montana line. Yep. Helmet hair. I was the one with the long hair on the show, the like young boy that was like her best friend or whatever the situation was on the show was trying to hit on me in a mall. Yeah. That's

really funny. And so I told him to kick rocks. Now everywhere you go, I've witnessed it a million times. Everybody's like, do you know who you remind me of? Myelope Cyrus. Yeah. I get it all the time now. No way. I think it's my mollet. Like now it's more shaggy, but because I had the mullet and the shag and I'm covered in tattoos and but they were like, even your mannerisms, it's so funny. I really do get it everywhere now. It used to be Megan Fox every day of my life and now it's Miley Cyrus. And I'm like, I will take both. They're so hot. Like, okay, that's cool. You'll offer up the other one too. They're like, you remind me of Megan Fox. I'm like, you're like, in Miley Cyrus. And I'm like.

Yeah. Well, one, I dyed my hair pink. You know, when I did that, like, washing thing. Oh, yeah. And everyone at the mall was coming up and they're like, are you Megan Vox? And I'm like, if you have to ask me, I'm probably not. And I'm like, no, I'm not. But I'm not going to lie that it felt kind of nice for a day. Like someone compared to someone's so hot. I'm like, I'll take it. Thank you. Well, yeah. Every time I watch continue and we'll get into that. I just think you are so Angelina Jolie.

Like, continue. You continue. With your dark hair and it's long and it's just, anyways, we're just going to talk for an hour about how striking you are. You know, Rachel always gets asked if she is. Happy ones, like, because some of the reviews have said that. And I was like, I'm done. I don't need a single other thing.

Like, she's my muse growing up. Like, that's, I want to pee, Angela Jolie. I feel like everyone did. But so I'm like, holy shit. Yeah. Thanks. Yeah, 100%. Who does Rachel get?

Every time we go somewhere. What? Every time we go somewhere. You have people who feel like you remind me of Rachel Wilson. I was just about to say she gets you look like Rachel Belson. And she'll be like, yeah, I get that. And I get, I like want to give them something. I'm like, it's her.

I'm like, oh, it's your fun. I'll take the picture. Try and make their day. And Rachel's like, hello. Whose team are you on? Anyways. Oh, is you making me uncomfortable? You know what?

You go back in your little COVID game. Hey. I'm just kidding. I missed you. Okay. So, obviously you were here before and we had so much to talk about then, but even more to talk about now, which is so exciting because continue is coming out. September 6th. September 6th.

And I think we should just talk about it again and remind everybody, like, how it all came to be in your story. and everything because it's so inspiring. Oh. Did you give me a demure little smile? Oh. You got to be demure. What is that from? Sorry, side note.

It's everywhere that everyone's like, it's demure. Oh, my God, it's so good. What is it? It's like this TikToker. It's a TikTok thing. I forget the name. You know, Olivia, on her TikTok. I know.

She'll send me things and she'll be like, you've seen this. And I'm like, no, I don't have TikTok. Like, I created a TikTok just because. For continue. Yeah, a friend with a. A great TikTok following was like I would like to post about it. Will you make a TikTok so I can tag you? So I did.

But I don't use it. But I also, it's because I don't know how. It's like Instagram I figured out. Like I'm not cool with tech. Like I don't. Well, if you are going to do it, you've got to be demure. Okay. Okay.

Just show me who this is and it will be my new way of life. Yeah. Mindful and demure. Ooh. Okay. Yeah. Okay, go. Yeah. So the way that continue came about is because I have struggled with depression and suicidal ideation a lot of my life. But especially in my 20s, it was very, very prominent. And I attempted to end my life. And then found my way to recovery, sobriety.

and got myself healthy and, you know, the real way that continued to be was I was putting these scenes up in class kind of to like deal with, not to deal with, to work through some of the things from my past, some of that trauma. And the more that I would put these scenes up in class, people were really resonating and would come up afterwards and start telling me their stories and their struggles. And then they started to ask me to write scenes for them or let them act in the scenes with me to kind of like talk through some of these things.

And that's when I realized, A, how many of us out there feel that way or have had these struggles and be that the arts, that filmmaking, you know, was a way to vocalize these things to like put it out there and to let people feel seen and in my opinion, hopefully start a conversation because with mental health and, you know, suicide, it is a very taboo subject and most people shy away from it. And a lot of people told me that no one would want to talk about it in regards to a film. So it definitely wasn't easy to create this film in the first place. But we did not take no for an answer and we worked. I mean, it's been over a decade since I was doing those scenes in class.

And it's been years since the film was completed. And, you know, again, it's all about that divine timing because I was trying to find a home for it and walked away from a different distribution deal. And through my second film coming out in this beautiful relationship that I blossomed with Grindstone and Lionsgate. Barry Brooker in particular and the support of Amelia Rogers the head of their PR and marketing who was like, no, there's a way for us to market

a really poignant film like this about mental health and yet, you know, like, because a lot of people are like, it's not commercial or it's this or it's that, you know, it's... So it was a lot of people who really wanted to support the film and the message and to start this conversation. And so their partnership and collaboration is how we got this film out. And so now September 6th that finally comes out.

And Lionsgate and Grindstone Entertainment is releasing it. And September, it's, yeah, September is suicide prevention month. That's why we waited for September to put it out in World Suicide Prevention Month. So, and you guys have been one of the biggest, like, most instrumental things, too, to getting this film out there, but also your support. And they have been at every red card. They have been on every meeting. We have brave blizzard. They have literally posted everything.

They've had me on the podcast. It's just like, you know, I, the people in my life have really showed up and God has put people in my life, you know, and it's, it really has been divine. There's no other way of saying it, you know, when things felt the most hopeless, all a sudden, you know, it would work out in a way that was better than what I could have imagined. So that's why I've known all along this path that, you know, there's someone up there helping me, you know. Support for broad ideas comes from posh peanut. Your kids grow fast, but that doesn't mean they have to outgrow their favorite items after only a few months.

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what does continuing look like for you today? What are the things that you have in place to make sure that you never go back to that place of wanting to end your life? Olivia Allen. Like literally. Olivia, because I'm an OG, I've been working with you and no, she doesn't take new clients, I'm really sorry that she doesn't because she's fucking incredible. She's a mine ninja. But I have a lot of pieces in place for my mental health.

It's not, it'll never be cured. That's the one thing I kind of always try and explain to people because people will approach me and, you know, ask what I did to fix it. And, you know, and the truth is, is like, it's an ongoing. process. You know, I don't want to call it a battle because it's, I think every human being has needs a process for strong mental health, like whether you've had suicidal ideation or attempted to end your life or, you know, you just have kids and get overwhelmed or like, whatever the hell, life is hard, right? But for me, in particular, like, sobriety changed my life. You know,

I'm nine years sober and, um, and that is, I think, the most instrumental thing to my, health because every single attempt I made on my life was well intoxicated. And, you know, what's really funny is like if you talk to any of the people who were in my life at that time, they're like, you're not an alcoholic. You're the most fun. Like, you know, you were the life of the party. And I'm like, until I wasn't, until I was home alone with all those feelings that now alcohol unleashed, you know, essentially. And it is a depressant, you know, a person who is severely suffering from depression should not use a depressant. You know, that I will say if you are looking for an answer right now and you're struggling, the number one answer is to be sober or not use substances,

you know, like not prescription drugs. I mean like that, like if that is something you're prescribed and you need like, you know, anxiety medication or antidepressants or whatever, that's not what I'm talking about. It's like, you know, alcohol or other substances. For me, it's a life coach. It's a therapist to work through. Sometimes it's a psychiatrist for medications or just check-ins. You know, I was having a really hard time, you know, not too long ago. And that's how Continue On became about because I was looking into a psychiatrist just to kind of like check in. I was kind of struggling. I was in, and I was like, maybe I need some extra help during this time or maybe medication or just to check in to see what, you know, my doctor or a doctor says. And it was so expensive. You know,

it is astronomical in Los Angeles to go to someone really good. And most, most people don't take insurance. And so that's how continue on came about. We, we wanted to help people in their time of struggle, but especially around youth, it made me realize, like, if I can't afford this as, you know, a woman of a certain age, how on earth would I have afforded it when I was in my worst years in my 20s or even younger? Because if I'm honest, cutting and depression and all of that started really young for me. You know, junior high and continued through high school. And then by 23, it crumbled. You know, so for me, it looks like a lot of different work. Exercise. Exercise is huge for me. I have to run and I have to get endorphins going to keep me healthy. I feel like there's so

many other things. Like I have a whole, oh, meditation. I mean, that changed my actual entire life was meditating and being, like, getting quiet because I have one of those minds that never shuts off. You know, I'm a lucky lottery winner of anxiety. Like panic. So, like, you know, all future trips, but we're all still think about something that happened 10 years ago that, like, that person doesn't even know I exist and yet I'm still thinking about it or, you know, so for me, it's like getting present and, you know, quieting my mind. And then another thing you've really taught me to is like affirmations. And that sometimes really is just to silence my brain. I'm like, if I don't think this over and over or say this over and over, that spinning thought is going to be too loud.

how do I quiet it down? So I'll repeat affirmations and like, quite frankly, whatever your belief is, whether you are atheist or not, I pray. Like that's really because it's like it feels so out of my control in some of the heaviest times or like times like now. I mean, Olivia and I just like, I'm going to be honest, we just had a session because I, you work for so many years for something. and like continue has been my second child.

And it has taken so much hard work to get it to finally come to the world. But that doesn't mean that instantly like now it's like, it's almost like now I'm more afraid than I was when I didn't know when it was going to come out or how. Right. Like I all of a sudden it's like it's real out there. It's coming out to the world. This thing that you've believed in that you've loved like is going to be put out to other people to say their opinions, like, even more than that, like, planning a premiere and doing

this and doing that, and it's just like, the past of this. And all of a sudden, my fears are 10 times worse than they were, like, even when I made the film, you know? So it's like, sometimes you don't know what it is that's going to trigger that, like, were those fears, you know? Like, funny enough, Miley Cyrus said something when she was just winning an award that I, like, kind of, I started to cry, like, when I was hearing her say it. And she was like, legends still get scared. Like, we're still terrified. Being a legend is still doing it even though you're terrified.

And I was like, you know, because you're like, that's the truth. That's the only difference, like, between succeeding your dreams and not is that, like, we're all terrified. Like, my first day is set, like directing, you know, Mel Gibson and Garrett Headlin and all of these human beings. or Emily Deschanel and Leo and Shiloh and everyone on my film on Continue, like, you tell everyone I can do it. And you believe with blind faith. And then the first day comes and you're like, fuck, can I do it?

Like, here we go. And you do it anyways. And then you figure it out. And, you know, so, like, that's the truth. I almost feel like when you're given the opportunity, it's like it doesn't mean that those fears don't come up. It's just that you walk through them. And so I had to be like, Olivia, I don't know, I walk through.

piece right now because I'm scared, you know? What was your advice? Well, I mean, yeah, but no, she asked, how do I do it? And I think that the simplest answer to that is to get well first, right, to make sure that you are in alignment so that you can properly deal with all of the fears that are coming up and get right-sized with them. Because the fears aren't true. They're not real. They don't matter. What matters is it's how you relate to the issue is the issue. Right. And so if you're, let's use a premiere as an example. So if you're going to go do the premiere and all these people are like,

you need X amount of celebrities and you need this and you need that. And that's real for them. They think that that's real, right? You can sit there and be worried about it. And be like, what do I do? How do I do that? Right? Like, blah-di-ba. Or you could pivot to the truth, which is, I've already made the film. I already did the hardest thing that anyone can do when it comes to filmmaking. I already made it. Made it. Finished it. Sold it. It will affect people, regardless of. if there's a single person in those seats, right? And so it's about then visioning, how do I want to feel during this experience? I want to feel what? Grounded, safe, inspired, seen, focusing on all those feelings and visualizing, oh, the people in the seats are going to take from this. It's going to move

them inside of their heart. They're going to share it with people, right? So it's pivoting from a negative future fantasy to a positive future fantasy because no matter what, if you're outside of this moment, you're in fantasy. So then that's what we focused on is which fantasy do we want to feed. And you can't feed a positive fantasy when you're out of alignment. Well, also the next right indicated action was the other thing you told me too, which is like, yeah, well, which is like, all I can do is take the next step and take the next step and take the next action, the result is completely out of my hands. And the problem that I have is that I think that all the results are my responsibility. And if I don't do them or fix them, it's my

fault or my failing or this, that, and the other. And I had told her, you know, and like, that's why I'm so glad we're talking about this, too, is like, Anthony, my husband was like, how does it feel like the day that the, I don't know why this made me so emotional, but the day that the press release came out and the trailer and the poster, something I had been working on for months with Lionsgate dreaming of for years to have come to the world, like knowing it was already with Lionsgate and Grimesome, but not being able to say it until the accent, you know, and so he said, how does it feel? And I was like, I don't feel anything. All I feel is stress. All I feel is anxiety. All. And I thought the.

relief like the, you did it. And it's like, no, I still have so much to do. I still have so much. And that's where that's something I would like to change about myself. So that is a huge thing to bring up because it's the exact thing that most of us humans suffer from is we think the relief is going to come from an external source and it never fucking does. It doesn't happen. It doesn't work. It doesn't happen. I always try. I know. I just was like, you want people to, like, they're going to be proud of me.

So then I'm actually going to be proud of me. I'll feel proud of me because they are or this. And then their pride comes and you're like, but it's not enough. Like, but now what do I have to do? And it's like, and I realize so many, so many people. And I don't know, like, we're like, there must be something that you're still holding on to from continue. Like you have to let it go and it will find its path to the world and all of these things.

And it was only when it's. finally started to come out to the world that I realized, oh, I, and I started to have all these emotions and, like, started to feel like I wasn't doing well. Like, I was like, not feeling well. And I, this doesn't feel like what I thought it would feel like. And that's when I realized you've also had this thing for, for, you know, if I'm being honest, nearly six years that was mine and that I always had to focus on in times of slow or times of this and I had this mountain I had to climb and this adversity and like and then I don't think I realize that like when you let that go to the world like what do you have now next right's next what are you gonna have

focus on what are you and I've always been like I can't wait till it's finally because I've always said making a film especially with an independent film is like being dropped in the middle of the ocean and given the hard drive and said, don't let it touch the water. It's fucking ruined. And you're just like treading water like, I can do this. I can do this, right?

And so I just kept being like, when it finally goes to the world, it's going to be like releasing balloons. It's going to feel like light and it's going to feel like. And I'm like waiting for that magical fantasy of like fairy dust blowing out of my asshole that I was expecting when continue it was coming out. And really I'm like, you know.

Yeah, but I think it speaks to, you know, depression and all of these things because it's in anything. Like, once the, the thing passes that either you're excited about or you're looking forward to you or like whatever, once that's in the past or gone or done, you're like, oh, fuck, like, what do I have to look for next? Right. Because it's like that forward thing. And, you know, and it happens with, like, the littlest things, too. You know, and this is obviously huge. This has been your life. So I think all of those feelings are so understandable because we're all, not we're all, because

some people are really mentally healthy. Yeah, good for that, man. I'm jealous. But like, no, but I just mean that, you know, it's always like the next thing. Like the deflation, I think of all of that consuming your life. Yeah. And you feel it when you're on set, right? Like, they always say it's the blues after a production ends or like whatever. Like you get it in any hit.

Like, it can be going to the festivals we do and like doing those things and then you go home and like that energy is over. It's like you get little dips all the time when your creative thing like ends. I think for me it's been like one of the most. important things I've done in my life is making this film. It's one of the things that I'm the most proud of, you know, like, because they say, if your life can, someone said to me with, like, the meaning of life, like just your life period, not take away creative anything. If you were one life made someone else's experience on this planet better just by your existence, then your life has already had purpose. And so, like, I look at this, you know, the way that it's, you

It's brought people into my life, the way that I've seen it help people, the way that I've been able to speak with people and share with people. It's like, I am the most proud of anything in my life, you know, outside of my family, my son, and is this film. And it's terrifying to care about something so deeply, you know, like to be so proud. It's like, it's a scary thing because now you put it out. It was, it almost felt safer because it was like, well, it's like my little secret that like these people get to see but it's never been out and when it goes out like there's a chance people won't like it and they or they will or you know and it's like this deep part of yourself that you're scared will get rejected but the truth is is like that's fucking art like you can't make it for that

and I keep trying I keep trying to Rick Rubin myself I've been listening to his book every fucking day being like stop it you know well that's what I was going to ask you is I think that one of the most dangerous things about any sort of creation, whether it's art, whether it's, you know, a book, whatever it is, is how much of your identity do you then have tied to it? And what do you make it mean to you on how it's received? And how do you deal with that? Because that's the part that I think takes so many people down, not just in this business, but in any, endeavor where they're putting their heart and soul out there is, can it ever just be for that?

Or is their identity wrapped up in it? And what do you make it mean if it's well received, but isn't an Academy Award women winning film or, you know, like how do you walk that line of this does not define me? Yes, I made this film. However, it's only your, it's only your first film. It's my first film. My second one is already out, but like it was my first film.

And can I say something that also like, this will probably be the only place I admit this and say this out loud. But I had this realization because of my husband. He's a really smart fucking guy. He said, because I said, you know, there's things I'd change about continue. I think now because I'm a better writer. I'm a, you know, on different things. And he said, Neene, you're 10 years older than the little girl or than the young woman who started the journey of writing this film.

In October 28th, you will be six years older than the young woman who started principal photography on continue. Of course, there's things you change. You are a completely different woman in person, you know? And but the best part is, is that it's not you who made it. It's her. and it's exactly what it was always meant to be. And whatever happens from here, no one can take from you what you did. And that was like what I needed to hear. And of course I'm ugly face crying. Is he saying all of this? Because like, you know, we need that support system around us. But what you just said, how do you not tie your identity to it? That's why I had to talk to you. I was like, all of a sudden, all I ever cared about was continue helping people. I just wanted if it, I always said, if it saved one life, then all of this was worth it. You know, and I, and I, and I, do believe it will do that and I do know it will help people. But all of a sudden is it coming out to the

world and you have press teams and you have marketing and you have this and you have that and reviews and things and they're starting to talk about and I'm on calls, two calls a week with my teams and with all of this stuff leading up to the release. And then all of a sudden, all that other stuff is really important too. And all of the sudden I start to look at that and forget about the initial whole reason. Like, it's not that I forget about it, but now I'm worried about that too. And, you know, and I had to get right size

and talk to you about it and also be like, how am I, how do I not let this affect me? Because that's not what I even set out to do. And, like, regardless, you know. And it's really hard as artists because, like, not just, like, listen, this isn't just filmmaking or acting or writing or, you know, podcast or whatever. It's like, you know, as a hairstylist, you start putting your pictures out and something's like your highlights look like dog shit or, you know, like, whatever your profession is

or your whatever, it's like when you start to put yourself out there, it is a really scary thing. I think the thing that gives me solace is knowing we all feel it. It's kind of like how I feel, how, what I say about like mental health or, you know, suicidal ideation if you're in that place, it's like there's so many people out there that feel that same exact way. And so that's what I keep trying to remind myself of too. It's like I'm not the first filmmaker who feels like they're about to die. And I'm like, I'm not the first person to feel this. And I guess that's why, like, while we were talking here with the two people who make me feel

the most seen and safe in the world, I wanted to talk about the real truth behind it is that continue is something so special and something that I hope helps some. many people. And yes, I am this incredibly strong and strong-willed and driven person, but that does not mean that I'm not afraid. And it doesn't mean that I still don't have days of fear. And also, you know, like, I have PTSD. So one of my triggers is suicide ideation. And then I'll have to be like, oh, this isn't you. This is your PTSD or this is your that. And so it's also knowing that you can get yourself healthy. And just because you have a lull. or a moment of a low doesn't mean you're there again,

or something's wrong with you. Or like, it's just, it's always a, it's like anything else, like with our physical health. Like, sometimes you get sick, you know, or sometimes something sets you back or you get tired or whatever else it is or you have a lot of stress on your plate. You know, when I was going over with Olivia, all the things, I'm like, I'm a mom to a child with autism.

He's starting a brand new school. We just moved for two weeks out from a move. I have a premiere coming up. I have a release of the movie coming up. I'm doing press. I'm putting myself. It's a lot for anyone. You know, and I think that the thing we need to remember is to be kind to ourselves, you know, it's normal. Everything always happens at once, so, you know. It's just how it works. Shitstorms. Like, yeah. Even if they're positive, they're all, you know, and it's just thinking life is just always how it goes. But it's not, look, it's, it's, it's,

On one hand, it's like, okay, you have a movie and it's coming out. And some people are like, oh my God, like, you're so lucky. Like, where's the gratitude? But like, it's all there, you know? But it's like humans are human. Yeah. And I think it's just that baseline, like understanding that no matter what you have in life or what's going on in life, like everybody's human. And there's so much that goes along with it.

Yeah. One of the things that I think of is when I first got sober, this man said, I've told you this before, this man said to this guy, I want you to hit your knees and pray every day out loud to God. And the guy goes, well, if there really is a God, why do I have to pray out loud? Can't he hear me and my thoughts? And the guy goes, no, you fucking idiot. You're not praying to God for God to hear you.

You're praying to God out loud so you can hear every day that you're not God. And I was like, whoa. Like that is everything. It's that reminder that there is, and that's just my belief system, that there is something greater than us having to do it all alone. And sometimes I think even in the positive, it can feel overwhelming. And you're feeling like you have to do all of this stuff on your own. And it's like that's when you.

need to hear every day that you're not God and that there is something bigger at play and there's only so much one person can do. Yeah. Yeah. And we can't really affect outside of our control. You know what I mean? You can do about, yeah, you said to me yesterday is like the results is completely out of like that's not up to you. And that's not your job. It's relinquishing control, which is so hard. Especially like, for you that's been in control of everything with the movie and, you know, all that. And life. And life. But it's also realizing, you know, that was something I said to Olivia, too, is like, we also create a story when it's been our identity for long enough. Like, yes, I was alone

for a really long time. And yes, I had to do a lot of things for myself and to care for myself and pick myself back up and then to create this film and da-da-da-da. So when I get overwhelmed, I often go back to like, I'm alone. And it's like, it's also interesting to learn and see now as a healthier woman. Like, you're like, oh, here comes the story. Oh, here's the, you have no one to lean on. You have no. And it's like, it's just so not accurate, which is why I immediately take contrary action of, like, text Rachel, text Olivia, talk to my husband, like, speak it out loud or pray or meditate or, you know, I've been like kind of meditating.

ridiculously over the last week, too, is like, and yeah, and what you said, too, it's like, it's never that I'm not in gratitude. Like, I ugly face cry with gratitude. It's just also that the two things can be true. You can be 100% grateful for something that happened and also 100% terrified of it. Like, you know, it's like it's no different than when you go into your next production. Like you, you know, for me as a filmmaker, it's like you, you can't wait for this opportunity to work with these people and you can't wait for this opportunity to make this film that you're so passionate about and all of these different things, it doesn't mean that production doesn't suck sometimes. It's such grueling hours and you're tired and everything

that can go wrong will go wrong. And, you know, like there's so many things about it. It doesn't change how much I fucking love it, you know? It's like, so, yeah, it's like two things can be true at the same time. But yeah, I always think of that story, you know, and like I, and it made me start praying out loud, which I still get kind of like embarrassed about sometimes. You're like, but it's true. I have to remind myself that it's not up to me. It's not my job, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I think most people need to remind themselves, right, that we don't have to do everything on our own. And also one of the things that you pointed out that I think is really important in you may have called it shit storms. That's just how I look at things.

So I think that that is a sign of healing is that you can become the witness of your shit storms, right? And you don't have to go into high alert and be like, there's a fucking tornado. You can watch it as an observer. And that, to me, is the biggest sign of growth is you can see the storm. You can identify the storm, but you don't have to tether to it anymore. You can let it pass. You can go, ooh, I see, that's a big one. I told Rachel this morning because I had COVID for 10 days,

and I have something I believe is called cytokine sickness. Here she goes. What's the term that Jeff says that you think you know? No, no, no, no, no, no. Ultra Cresbyterian. Cytokine sickness is a real thing when you have a heavy, like, viral load that it'll cause inflammation and that can cause depression. because you have inflammation in your brain, something like that, right?

So I was like, my brain feels off from being sick. And Rachel's like, oh, no, you okay? And I was like, I am because I know what it is. I don't have to now be like, I'm morbidly depressed. But I can see and feel it, witness it, and be like, okay, I see that. That makes sense. The circumstances make sense to. feel off, right? As opposed to in the past, it used to be then I now identify I am depressed

versus I'm feeling a bit of depression. Those are two different things. Well, that's what I said to you on the call. I was like, I feel depressed. And like, but I know that it's not that. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I know that that's like my normal reaction to this feeling that I don't know what to do with. And like, so being able to do that, old me would have been like, here we go. Like, we're depressed, you know? Yeah. And it's like that evolution of seeing that growth of like that we don't have to tether to it. And how we handle it is different also than I would have before because the way I would

have previously, like, you can attest to this. I text you every time I'm not doing well. Or like, I'm like, need to work through something and have like someone. I need her perspective from an outside to know whether I'm like, you know. And the old me would have absolutely text no one to prove the story I am alone. Right. There is nowhere I can go. No one cares.

No one's knocking at my door seeing what's wrong with me. Yeah. Why didn't no one text me and ask me if I'm okay? Like I'm not okay. Like they should know I'm not okay. Right. If we're deeply connected, you know, or whatever. That's like huge growth.

Yeah. You know what else I find really funny? Is there anything funny in this? Yeah. A lot of things. Wait for it. The thing I find funny is that, okay, you feel a feeling of depression. Like I said to you, oh, my brain feels off, right?

And in the past, I'd be like, I'm depressed. I am going there, like you said. Like, that's it. We're going down. But imagine if we did that. with joy. Imagine for a second if we're like, oh, it just felt really good for a minute. I am fucking happy.

You guys, I am happy. This is it. I'm going all the way with it. Like, that would never happen. No. Isn't that weird? Why is that? You know?

Like, oh, I felt a minute of joy. You know what that means? I'm fucking happy. I'm going on the roller coaster of joy. It's crazy. You know. I see. It's such an interesting thing.

And like, so my family, we always say this thing, like, because we were visiting with, like, Hayden's grandmother is 98 years old, okay? And she, her saying that we all go by, because we all heard it once with, she goes, if you want to be happy, be happy. And it's like, that's the mentality. Like, be happy. Yes, Grandma Rose, you are right. You know, like.

She's actually right. She's actually right. Yeah. That's it. Yeah. If you want to be happy, be happy. Like she's just like so simple. But then again, like even right now, like my insides, like I'm like crying inside. Like I just have this feeling like I woke up yesterday from like a vivid dream and I automatically woke up just feeling like I could cry. Like I'm going to start crying right now. You know like there's just these things that kind of feel out of your control. And like I have Briar and like we get up and I do the things. But like my insides, it's just heavy. Like right now it's so heavy inside. Like I feel like I could just cry. And not. being in control of those emotions and feelings is the most disorienting.

And like, okay, yeah, just be happy. Like, I would, and I can, I can put on any kind of facade. And I can. But that's putting on a facade. It doesn't mean we have the control of our happiness to be happy. Right. Right. And, you know, and we're like teaching these young people that we're raising, you know,

how to regulate their emotions. And we have so many more tools now and in helpful ways to, to guide. them. And I did as a kid because my mom was like, you know, ahead of the curve, so to speak, or people were doing it. But whatever. It's just as an adult kind of coming into these emotions and not knowing how to really handle them or control them because you can't. So it's like, what do you do? Right. And that's why I always go back to what Candace told me, which is we feel our feelings so we don't become them. Right. We feel the sadness so we don't become depressed. right? We feel upset so that we don't become angry. But the one thing, too, I think that

that's a misperception for a lot of people is if they have that crying inside or that weight or that heaviness or that emotion, that means they're not happy. Where you can be a happy, well-adjusted human being and have big emotions, just like we teach our children. When our children are affected by something and they feel a big, deep emotion. We're not like, oh, no, there's a press. Right. You're like, no, you're having big feelings. You're feeling your feelings. And then in 20 minutes, you're going to go play with your friend and you're going to be happy. Right. Right. And we're going to order lunch and it might make you happy. That'll make me happy. Right. But it's a misconception that to be a happy, well-adjusted

person, you have to feel happiness all the time because that is an unachievable. goal. Right. Well, I think that that's why these kinds of conversations are really important, too, is because I think that a lot of people out there probably feel like something's wrong with them because they have a moment where they go to their car and they fucking cry. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's like, or we're told that there's something wrong with that or like, you know, from a young age, I was told I'm the emotional. I'm too emotional. They were labeling you. So then my whole life, I have felt that way and felt like when I had my big feelings, like that's half of what comes down to, you know, depression and suicide. Like for me in that time was feeling like I'm a burden because I

had these big emotions or these things. And it's like, then you're in a conversation like this and you realize having a day where you want to cry in your car is totally normal. Like I think I text you. I was like sobbing. I'm like, I was just sobbing in my car. Yeah. We, we text each other and I'm like, oh my God, I just had that moment after the grocery store. You know? It's like it doesn't mean that something's wrong with us either. It's like we all are going through things. We all have emotions. I mean, Olivia must have told me three times yesterday. You are safe. Let it go. Because I was just like trying everything not to cry, not to crumble. And just- I didn't say it scary like that. She didn't. I didn't. She slammed her hand.

I know how she is. Scare tactic. Yeah. No, she's with the most love. You're safe. You can let it in my head. It's just with me. It's super-tactic. You know, you're so harsh. She'd be like, fucking. Let it out to you. That's me. You're projecting. Yeah, you're projecting on me.

I can be hard. Is that how you are? Yeah. Oh, she can be harsh. Really? Yeah. Well, I mean, I can be. Not on tender things.

Like if I call her, like if I call her a wreck about Shepard or. Oh, you'd imagine? Like, get it together. No, I cry if she tells her. I was just about to say that's why when you guys were saying this, I was like, I haven't witnessed that because you are so tender with me. I can be hard with me. If I know I'm right, I can be harsh. Does that make sense?

Like if things are like not with emotional or sensitive things, but like let's say I was being hard on myself about something. She might not be like, oh, babe, that's normal. She'll be like, no, don't fucking do that. You know what I mean? She'll be like, I'm not letting you do it if it's something ridiculous. Yeah. Well, yeah. But not on the real tender things.

No. Although when she was breaking up with her, like, long-term boyfriend and I knew she was, like, done. She was completely done, but she was, like, having a hard time letting go. And I was like, you're over it. Like, it's over. You need to move on. Like, cut it out. Like, you're over it.

And she would get so mad at me. And she'd be like a wreck. And she'd just look at me, like, straight up. And she'd be like, you're over it. You're like, but I'm not. I'm like, I'm not. And she'd be like, you are. We were like 19 years old.

But still. I was going to say, though, also, I think the people closest to us, we can be that way. Like, I can, I am the, I'm an empath. I'm the most compassionate. I am there. I will talk through something for hours with someone that I love who's going through something. My husband's having a hard time. I'm like, get it the fuck together.

This is what you do. You're going to do this. You're going to send this email. You're going to da-da-da-da. I'm like, that's my world's best advice. I just told you exactly how to get out of this. Now get over it. Yeah.

You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I could be maybe a little nicer to him, like, you know, but it's like, we can be that way because we want our person to be strong and we want them to, like, get past it or, you know, like, we can just be that way with our closest humans to us, too. And when we know we're right. You wouldn't say that to someone that wasn't your closest human. No.

You'll tell her, like, get the fuck over it. I've also seen her tell you, get the fuck over. Oh, yeah. And I've been like. me the hardest time in certain areas with certain people. That was way too loud of a laugh, but yes. Yeah, wink, wink, wink, nudge, nudge. I give you a firm time.

She puts me in firm time. Go over there in firm time. No, but like we have a friend who's with someone I will never approve of and I will not budge. And I am so harsh about it and will not budge on it. Refuse, nothing's going to happen to change my mind. That's me. So she gets a little bit like that where I'll be like, well, I just, you know. She tries me more like accepting and finding like ways to, you know.

Yeah. But there's certain things that are hard nose. That's true. For you. Well, they are for you too. Well, I went, me. I see and here I am as like the mediator. I'm like, wait, wait, wait, wait.

I've also seen you have a hard motherfucking know to her different things too. Oh, for sure. We have hard nose. I have hard nose. She has hard nose. Well, and, but like, again, I think you're not let me pick up the fucking phone. I will tell you that much of right now. As to where I'm like, well, if you're inside safe.

I know, you're like, follow your heart. And she's like, fuck no. That's a no for me. Like, da-da-da, but I just feel like, okay, well, maybe you should. I can boot camp sway too easily. I can boot camp well when it comes to that stuff. She's a boundary motherfucker. Yeah.

I mean, she's taught me, like, she really has taught me boundaries. But the only reason I do that is because when I have severely strong intuitive hits, and I can... When you know, you're right. When I know I'm right, and I know... Same thing. You're just saying it more eloquently. Trust me on this one. Yeah.

Because I think sometimes we're always really close to situations that we can't necessarily see because we're in it. Why won't you let me pick up my... I was kidding. Never. You know why? I don't want you to win in life. And I know some tactics to get you to win. But that's the other thing that's also really hard, right?

And this just goes back to reality is it's really hard for people in general. I'm not going to make this about gender. People in general to see themselves. But it's also really hard for women to see themselves truthfully. And as friends, like we. see you so clearly. Right. So anything that I don't think deserves your energy or attention outside of that, I'm like, fuck that. Why? You're the best. And I'm like, let me tell you why, you know? And it's like, again, that's why I think... We also need friends like that. I was like...

Yeah. We all need human beings who will keep us. Because we all have shit and I'll be like... We don't need just a yes friend. No. No. A real friend isn't just a yes friend. Yeah. I don't. I I'll go to, like, I have, there's also different friendships. I'll go to you and I feel like I just need to, like, talk it out even though, like, I don't want to be told I'm wrong yet and I don't want to be told on this. But I just want to talk about how I'm feeling. Yeah, and we'll sit in it. We'll talk about all of our feeling and we'll go back and forth. And then I go to her when I'm ready to face my shit and know the truth of what I need to get my shit together.

And both friendships. No, but both friendships are fucking vital. There are. Absolutely. I know. There's certain things. I'm like, oh, if I tell her, I'm going to have to fuck. fucking face some shit and deal with it. And it's annoying. Yeah, but you do it. I do it. I do it.

Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah. And that's the truth. I know. I mean, I'm annoying. Going towards the fear or going in the fucking ring or going through the fire or whatever it is. Like, you have to do it to come out on the other side to, I believe, live your most, you know, fulfilled, authentic, whatever you want to call it, life. You know? That's true. Because if you just go to the people that are going to yes you, there's no growth in that. They're like, yeah, yeah, You're definitely more my yes. I'm like your biggest fan. That's why I just love you both so deep.

But ask her, I'm like, I'm your yes, but I'm also a fucking shirk for you. Like I'll, you know that. Oh, 100%. I mean, that way for both of you, I will actually fucking probably murder someone and we'll end up on one of those documentaries of like, how did Nadine even get involved in it? She just heard about it. She came along. She brought the fucking wood chipper, actually.

Yeah. But yeah, it's like especially, you know, we need those, we need those yes friends and we also need those no friends. And I might not be the yes friend to you, but I'm the let's listen, talk about it. And then I'll give no in a yes way. In the most kind no way, you know? Right. You do both.

Yeah. Yeah. Which I understand. And there is a need for that. I was just thinking about it. I wish to you. Oh, my God. This is actually vital.

We should talk about this. This is why we need those friends. My husband was throwing me surprised. I almost want to let you guys tell the story. Did we tell it last time? We did tell it. On what? The person of me were here.

But didn't this just happen? No. It was your birthday last October. Oh, my God. And we're almost at October. Yeah. We told it on the podcast. We did?

Yeah. The Washington Road came out after that? Did it? I don't know. When did it come out? October 6. We told it then. We told this story.

We told the story? I know. Regardless. Can we tell the fucking story again? Okay. We'll go through it quickly. My husband was throwing me a surprise party. They came up with this elaborate thing to get me to the place.

I 100% believed it. Not a single fucking part of me doubted it because they were fighting in front seat. And I was just like, what the fuck? I was just like, guys, and it's also my birthday. And I'm just like, guys, we don't have to, we don't have to fight. I don't can. I was like, you can tell your friend will come by his work. It's okay.

Rachel doesn't want to let him down. Olivia wants it to be like, we can't. I kept being like, what Jimmy wants us to Jimmy. Yeah. I actually think she was the one like, no, we need to Jimmy. And you were like, fuck Jimmy. And I'm like, I don't, and I'm in the back, like, I don't mind if we see Jimmy. Like, I don't mind because I'm like, they're getting into it.

And I'm like, oh my God, my friend Jill's meeting us here, though. Well, we have enough time to get back to Jill. You were freaking out. You were like, dude, whatever. Like, just. I'm like, guys, let's just go see Jimmy. Let's just see it. I don't care.

Rachel, we say. I'm going to pee. I'm going to pee. The way we tricks you into going is we said. our friend Jimmy. Worked at a bar. Worked at a restaurant nearby. He's going to give us free mott.

Also, free mottels. You're like, he's giving us juice. He's giving us essentially juice. So they... Oh, my God. We can't. Oh, Jimmy's waiting for us, and he's going to give us free mott. He told us he'd hook us up, like, da-da-da.

And mind you, then we get to the place. okay guys we get to the place and it's a location I filmed and continue so I go what the fuck I go I've been here Jimmy works here what are the odds

I filmed here up in the upstairs it's called the Sherman I'm like you guys don't want to go here this place isn't you guys I'm like no no no no no you're like yeah you're like no no this is not no

this is a hard no I am dressed up I'm in like I'm in like a tiny little thing like no but jimmy's there with you and you know what i said i was like it's like the saddle ranch of sherman oaks like it's like it's like a wood bar like i'm in like a tiny little dress so i'm just trying to keep the piece and fucking go see jimmy so they don't duke it out on my birthday and mind you the guy's like uh i don't know if the guy the bartender at the bar I don't know, Jimmy, but is he at the private party out there?

And then so I'm like, I'm not going into someone's private party to find fucking Jimmy? And so I see there's people on the patio. And me and fucking Rachel are like standing in the hallway. Olivia walks in and goes, Jimmy? And walks into this patio. And I'm like, I am not walking into someone's party yelling for Jimmy. I'm just not doing it. And then I look inside and I go, I know that person.

I was like, oh, fuck. I was like, well, now I'm looking at someone I know so I can't not go in there because I should probably say hi, but I still feel weird to intrude on Jimmy's or this person's private party that Jimmy's working. It's not Jimmy's private party. He's working someone's private party. So I'm like looking in. I'm like, no.

And Rachel just goes, oh, and he shoves me in. And I'm like, no. And I look through the door. And I'm like, I see my family, Garrett, Headlin, who's one of my dear friends, like all these people I know, my husband, my kid. And I'm like, oh, my fucking God, is this party for me? And I'm now crying laughing because I refuse to go out there and Rachel physically shoved me through the door. And so I go back to, we need a friend who will physically shove you into your own party. Thanks.

You really do. And one that'll give you free mocked out. Yeah, and you always need a Jimmy who will give you a pineapple juice. But every time we say, Jimmy, are you picturing Jimmy? That's why it's so good. Do you guys have an actual friend, Jimmy? Yes. Well, that's what I figure.

So I'm like, he felt real. I could imagine him. Look, you don't. I think you need to meet him. I need to meet him. Yeah. Can we set that up? Yes.

We absolutely can set that up. We're going to have a meet and great. But he does work at the Sherman, right? No. I'm like sweating laughing at now. I needed that. Oh, my God. I needed that so badly.

See, now are you going to, for the rest of the day, be like, I'm so happy. Yes. I hope we do. Let's take that all the spark of joy and take it. Just freaking run with it. How are you? I'm so happy now. Yeah.

I'm happy. Want to be happy? Be happy. Be happy. Yeah. I mean. I mean. Jimmy.

It will make you happy. It will. Milk on the cookie cookie. The milk on the cookie cookie cookie. Is that something Jimmy says? Oh, I love that. The iced oatmeal cookie. It looks like there's milk on the cookie.

So he would call it the milk on the cookie cookie. That's actually really cute. He probably doesn't even know he said that. He doesn't even know he said that. No, it lives on 20 years later. And Jimmy's going to be like, there was an entire broad ideas episode dedicated to me. Go check out Hillbilly Harold. He's an amazing musician and go, Jimmy.

When you, she sent me actually the other day a picture of her and Jimmy. Yeah, I didn't send it to you. I posted. I think it comes to me, clearly. You're just saying everything. No, because I responded to it. And I was like, Jimmy. And then I was like, wait.

Is it a Jimmy? Because it's that hill pair I felt like Harold. That's his music. I don't know. Okay. Way too much time on Jimmy. I was a little pissed that Jimmy didn't get sent to me.

I would like to know who Jimmy is. Oh my God. Oh, geez. Okay. Sorry. So good. That was. I'm glad we did this though because you don't want

Continues episode to be only. Heavy. It's not a beautiful thing. And so is our friendship. Yes. We're just going through all. The emotions. Which we needed today.

We do. It sounds like we needed it. So thank you, Jimmy, for being there for us in our time of need. Oh, my God. Oh, okay. I'm crying. That was good. That was really good.

It was really good. Where do we go from here? I guess like the one thing I want to say, too, is like, what? I was going to say, why don't we have a little more fun and throw some cards at her. Oh. Okay, but do you want to say something first? Yeah. Well, I was going to take it back.

more a little serious. So maybe we don't. Well, no, all I was going to say is, what is it, like, you guys really supported me and, and, and this mission, you took this mission on with full motherfucking force. We sure did. We got stuck in the fucking snow. You got stuck in the blizzard, like, Olivia now hosts mental health workshops with me, and, like, we had three mental health panels, and, like, you know, we have, you guys took this on, like, your mission. So, you know, I guess, like, one thing I wanted to hear, I think, like, I'd love for everyone to know is, like, what it was and what it is that you hope that A, people take for and continue, or B, why it is, you know, that you took this mission on and what do you hope for, you know?

Good question. Yeah. I mean, look, aside from, like, the support and, like, supporting you and everything in life and, like, all the beauty that you create and the, you create and the, real life, I don't even know the right word, but all of the real life that you bring to a bigger audience and the awareness and wanting to help and wanting to save and wanting to speak about it and the bravery behind that and the courage. Like, I know I lack that, so I get to learn from you and take that. And watching this film definitely does that. And I remember the first time I watched it on my computer screen, I was like, not only is it like, fuck yes, I want to make art.

Like that reminds me of why I actually love doing what I do. But aside from that, there's this incredible message behind it and this experience and this journey with it. And so all of it combined is why we brave blizzards. That's right. How yeah. Yeah. When I first watched it, I remember it's like something woke up inside of me that reminded me why I love acting and filmmaking and storytelling. And it had been a long time since I felt like that. And just watching it, if it's like everything in me and was like, oh, my God, yes, this, this is why. And then quite shortly after I lost a dear friend to suicide. And so then the mission, became even larger and the timing of that was just too much to almost comprehend that it was obviously, yes, obviously the world needs to see this, anything that I can do to help get the message out and to help facilitate you and getting the message out and, you know, partnering obviously with Rachel and the gift of us having a platform and being able to share it with the world and get more

eyeballs on it became a mission. Yeah. And it's also like, just everything about it. I just like, I get emotional every time I hear you guys talk about, you know, the way that you felt when you watched my art and all of those things. Because it's like that reminder to myself, like, you don't need more than that. Like the two people you respect more than anything in the world, the two people you love more than anything in the world, it affected them. It made it, it made them excited. it made them passionate. It's like, you know, that's enough for me. Like, I have that, you know, and it's such a, I just feel so incredibly lucky, A, to have you guys as friends, B, that you guys, again, took this on as your mission and supported me. Because also, I just think of how many people

who love you and look up to you and all of those things and being able to know, like, someone who's, you know, maybe suffering and who loves your podcast, you know, it's like, they need a, need to hear that from you guys, you know? And it's like, it just makes me so excited the way that, you know, continue has come to be and what I hope it does and helps people and all the things. So thank you. Beautiful. Now. Oh, God. Switch things up.

I don't even know what's in here. Just free ball them. Just free ball it. What are these? Have you heard about that raw dogging on play? planes where you don't do anything on a plane. You have no electronics, no music, no phone, like no anything, and you just sit there. I've done that so many time. Well, I know, but it's a thing now called raw dogging on an airplane. Anyway, it's another raw dogging.

I've got a lot of my life, not on an airplane. Best advice for a single father getting back out there to date again. Look at her. That one? No? Oh. Who would you cast opposite of you in the odd couple? I mean, is it weird that the first person that came into my mind was like Glenn Powell?

Like, I feel like he's charming and like a light, like a breath of fresh air and I'm not. That would be an amazing. No, that's awesome. It's like our romantic comedy would be like, huh. Or like, you know what I mean? Yeah, I like that. Okay. Cool.

If you could listen to only one album for the rest of your life, What would it be? Oh, God, I don't know. I can't think of... I make playlists. Yeah. So, like, I could tell you there's a playlist that I listened to that I would... Name, like, three songs off it.

Oh, something in the orange by Zach Bryan. I'm obsessed with that song. I listen to it on repeat. I'm really bad with names. That's my other problem here. It's like, I want to get my phone out, which I don't even have, to look up this one song that I wrote an entire... God, Home Again.

It's this woman. I listen to it for writing an entire film. But go to my Spotify, please. Look up my playlist. I love me to oblivion playlist. And my dear son, I listen to both of those nonstop. I've shared those with you. And those songs I'm talking about are on them.

And I've written an entire movie. Who's jealous by? That's one of my favorite songs of all time. Jealous by Labyrinth. Yes. I listen to that song on repeat. I mean, you know, it's even on my own name or run. a band I'm obsessed with. They have a song. Nope, not going to say it because it's going to be wrong.

I want to say Crave or something. I've sent it to you, too. It's all my lookbook. When I write a film, I have music written into the scripts. I have, oh, I love Mitzki. My Love, Mine All Mine. That's another one of my favorites. So it's not an album. It's just like I have a playlist I listen to. That works. What is your weirdest role play fantasy? Have them. I don't know. role play fantasy. I feel like you play them out in what you write.

I do. You're right. I write them into films and I make other people do them and they're like a fantasy because I love and I love writing like really erotic scenes and different stuff like that. I once had it. Olivia has good ones.

Okay, go. I had a dream that I lost my virginity to John Goodman. and I was so devastated because he hooked up with someone else afterwards. And then I had the most outrageous feelings for him. So anytime I'd see him, I'd be John Goodman. Oh, yeah, I know this story. The love and fantasy I had for him was so weird. I thought we were talking about, like, sexual with our spouse.

Because I'm like, I have a weird one with that, but my husband even knows about it. Like, you know, my idea has come to me in my dreams. Yes. And I'll write entire films leading up to you. And one of my scripts I wrote in four days after a dream. And it was like a fever love dream. And then the next one I wrote in five days, which was red string theory, which. And so like I have this like imaginary love with Paul Mascow.

Doesn't know I exist. But like because my dreams were so fucking real. Yeah. We were so in love and this entire story blossomed. Like, we're in love. Like, even my husband is like, yeah, if you and Paul ever, yeah, like, you'll, I'll understand. Yeah. It's all imaginary, but I, it is hard sometimes with your dreams or whatever.

To shake this fantasy. Right. Dude. I still look at John different. You know? I mean, it's understandable. I love John Goodman. Who does it?

Who doesn't? Tell us about your worst one-night stand. Oh. I'm all, oh, my 20s. Have you ever had a proper one-night stand? Yes. Yeah. Like, yeah.

You know, I've had a few. I just don't think, you said the worst one. Yeah, I just don't think so there's anything. Not worse. You could do the best. Or whatever most memorable, a story, whatever. So you don't remember any of them?

They all look exactly the same. I was hammered. I was charming. He was charming. I woke up and was like, what the fuck? And I left quickly. Yeah, and like we never

wrote each other and texted each other again. Wait, one? You didn't have to go to Kinkos with one in the morning in your walk of shame outfit. Did you go to Kinkos? I did. I'm like, wait, that happened. Is it a movie?

He made me go to Kinkos with him. King Goes, when Kinkos existed, by the way. You had to, like, go print shit. And I had a one-night fan. And I had to go with them in my heels. To Kinkos? Why did you go with them and not just go home? This was not the time of Uber.

This was, you got to get a ride home if you didn't drive. I have one that's pretty bad, but that just came to mind now that you talked about it. But it kind of makes me physically ill to think about. But it wasn't that the event was that traumatic. It's that the event was someone I, actually couldn't stand. Like, I thought this person was a douchebag, and he was so rude to me, which means obviously I liked him.

And don't even really understand how we ended up, like, hooking up or whatever. And then it publicly came out, not that. And I didn't even give my number. We literally never spoke again. I was like, what was that? But obviously alcohol involved. Then it came out, like, later that he was a bad. dude and like did some bad stuff.

Oh, really? I, it was like... Like murder? Did he murder? No, but like, are we in theme? I don't think anyone will be able to connect the dots, but it came out that he like got in trouble for like child pornography. Oh.

Oh, shit. And it was real gross. And it was real. And like he got like caught and like real red-handed. And I was like. like you fucking hated him and for some reason and he treated you like dog shit and then for some reason that sparked like a passionate whatever the hell happened and later so I know I just took a dark leave it to Nadine but it was like that was one where I was like okay that's the worst one

that's the worst one I win yeah you I win the worst thing going to Kinkos you're like I'll go to kinkos any day over child pornography oh my god yeah I know that's crazy I know I know. It was definitely one of my... We're going to have to end now so she can tell us, no. Exactly. Yeah, we have to end on that. Which is so... You would have to end on that. No, we can't end on that.

No, sorry, I take that back. No, no. No, I just didn't... I'm speechless. Yeah, I know. I thought of it, too. And you could see my face slowly washing as she talks about kinkos. I'm like, I know the answer to this. Are you brave enough to say it? Has your husband ever tasted your breast milk? Oh, I don't think so. Oh, really? I don't think.

I do find that surprising. Yeah. Maybe by accent or something, but like, or maybe he did try it to like understand when I was breastfeeding and all of that stuff. One thing I'll never be able to forget. Can I say something about you? Oh, sure. Well, and I was like, we don't really, like,

because Anthony's really squirmy if I talk about periods. Remember we said this? and we're like, whatever, and you were like, can I say that? You can say whatever you want. You were like, Jeff might as well cut my blood at this point. We talk about my flow and like all of that. Cut my blood. Oh, I thought you said cut.

No, it's like, I don't understand. Oh, yeah. I said Jeff basically cups it for me. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're like, there's nothing we don't talk about when it comes to like. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that and all that. What can you say at the dinner table that you can also say in bed? Eat it.

There you go. There you go. You answered it. Yes. You're not putting too much thought into it. No one answers the same. I feel like that would be such an easy one that everyone would answer the same and they don't. Isn't that interesting? What are some other good answers you've gotten from that?

More, please. Oh, yeah. Mashed potatoes and gravy. Give me your gravy. Or are you done? Oh, my God. Pour some gravy on me. Yeah.

More porridge, please. What porridge? You said? Can I have some? Oh, my God. Most embarrassing thing that's happened to you during sex? Anything come to mind? I don't know that I can actually give that answer.

I'm like physically blushing. I don't like, you guys are such open books about stuff like that too. I know. I mean like, okay, fine, I'll just say. You know, you. come really hard or you that was really embarrassing. Oh.

I don't feel like that's embarrassing. But I feel like there are certain women that can do it. I haven't. I think there's certain women that can and certain women that can't. I think. Really? Maybe I'm wrong. There's like,

how open are you to that? Anyone can do it? Maybe anyone can do it. Is it? I think it's a physical. I feel like we need to look it up and get facts. It's like a release. Yeah.

It's pee. Is it? Yeah. It didn't look like pee. That's what they say, but then what... It looks like, um, you know? So there's like this whole thing. Who was it?

I was just watching a comedian and they were like, what else could it be? There's no other body of water. Well, do you know the other thing they tell you is when you're, when someone's like, so when I've experienced it is like, someone's going down on you and you've already come once and I'm about to come again and you feel that sensation like you have to pee? They said that's the sensation you get also.

right before you come. So most women, because I think they're going to piss themselves, but it's actually the feeling that leads to, and this could be totally wrong. Someone's like a guy of psychologist writes in. They're like, you are full of shit. That's actually not true. But like, someone told me that once.

So I stopped being afraid, especially with my husband. Like, if I feel that sensation, I'm just like, all right, I don't see what happens. All right. Put your goggles on. And it did lead to that eventually. Oh, wow. Yeah.

There's a very weird sensation, though. I've never had it. They kind of scared. I was like, what's happening? Yeah. Yeah. There she blows. There she blows.

Okay. Continue is out. September 6th. Okay. It's important to be able to laugh. It is. Like, okay. And here's the truth about.

Please. Continue about filmmaking all of the things. The thing that I think is important also is laughter. and feeling the safety to laugh. Also, when we're talking about really heavy things, that's, I think, why our friendship is also beautiful because we have the wide spectrum of conversations and we can start so heavy

and somehow end up at squirting. And that is the truth. So go see it continues September 6th, bring a friend that afterwards you can talk about it and then switch the subject and ask yourselves these questions we just asked. And I guarantee you will be laughing by the end of it. It is a very important film.

and we really hope that everyone connects with it and that if you are struggling, that you know that your life matters. And we made this film for you. And I hope you all enjoy it. Yes. Yes. September 6th. And also, please share if you connect with the film, if you go and see it, if you, it'll be in limited theaters and on demand on the same day. So you can rent it on Apple, iTunes, anywhere where you can rent films.

Amazon. And if you connect with the film, just please share it. That's how little indies have a life, you know, and that's how we'll get this message out there. Okay, we're going to try something. Rob isn't here to say no. We get asked questions all the time, by friends, anyone really. Acquaintances, we're going to, we got to ask something today. We're going to try to call the person so they can ask us on the mic and we can answer it here instead of the Reddit questions. Yeah, let's see. We're going to give it a try. We're going to see how it goes. It might fail. It might be great. No one knows. We are going to call our friend Jennifer Vega.

Hello. Hey, Jennifer. You're on live with broad ideas. Do you feel like you just want to won a sweepstake? I feel like I won life. Okay. What is your question? Okay. So right now in my life, I'm really wanting to meet somebody and share my life with them. And I'm finding it really challenging for online dating, especially in L.A. And I put a lot of effort and time into it. And I actually don't know where to go or what to do to meet like a really solid man, spiritually focused, you know, career-driven, funny, available, just an amazing person to share life with. And I'm not sure what I need to do to get there. Yeah. Great question.

Rachel, take it. Great question. So where, like where to go and like how to? Yeah, she's feeling a bit stuck because she's not, and she doesn't like the way it feels to online date. So how else should she be putting herself out there to meet someone fantastic? It's a good question. I think it's a challenging question because they find like,

naturally like if there's like friends that know friends and they say, set you up is like one way, but it's very limited because it doesn't seem to happen that often where it works out, right? I think you have to go a lot of places. Like where? Like the farmer's market? Like what actual places? Like never not be going places. Like you go to the market. You go to the girl. I don't know. That's really hard. I think, no, you're actually. I did not want you to say that. You didn't. Why?

Because she doesn't like going places. I like going to my friend's office. That's the problem. You have to go to place. This is, okay, this is the information. It is the time to say yes to everything. You get invited to something. You don't want to go.

You have to say yes. This is actually going to be a challenge for you. You have to say yes to everything. I literally just listened to your, the podcast you did with Jen Mayer, and we were talking about the year of yes and like saying yes to everything. And I was like, she said yes to everything and met her boyfriend. Yeah, Jen Meyer. She did.

Yeah. Yeah. That's what I was going to say too. That's the perfect thing. It is about yes. That's all it is. It's putting yourself out there. You have to get out of your comfort zone.

I've shared this with you. I've shared this on the podcast. I remember on the Skeet. episode, like my challenge was to smile at men. Oh. To just have a more welcoming energy. And knowing you so deeply and intimately, I know sometimes, too, you're very, you can be very friend zone. Mm.

Yeah. I think you should introduce me to ski. Oh. Oh, hey. Hey. But also it is about here. I'm going to give you a good example. okay? It is about telling the people that you know and trust, like, hey, I want to meet someone

if there's anyone that you're interested in. This is a perfect example. When Jennifer was looking for a job, she called all of her friends, she called all of us and said, hey, I'm looking for a job. Here's what I want to experience. Here's how I want it to feel. Here's what I want. A week later, I got an email. No freaking clue how I ended up on this email list of a job online. opportunity that was exactly what she described. And I sent it to her and I was like, your job came to me for some reason, but here it is. It's her job. How many years later? Six years later. And it's the best thing that ever happened to me. See? You put it out there. That's the bigger message. You put it out there and it came to you.

It manifested however you want to look at it. So that's your challenge. Jen, you have to, it's yes to everything. I will say too. I know you want to go out, work out with this new trainer that has his own personal gym at his house. And I've been trying to get her to go to my brother. I'm like, you're an idiot. You should be coming to my brother. And she's like, I don't want to drive 15 minutes to the gym. I want to go to so-and-so's garage.

You ain't going to meet anyone in his garage. Yep. But if you go to the gym. 15 minutes, it's not, I don't want your listener to think I don't want to drive 15 minutes. I actually don't want to drive 15 minutes. But, you know, it is in the morning a little, a little. far from me, but I want to work out with your brother. Oh, okay, I understand.

The point is you need to be in a gym, not someone's garage. Correct. So you can meet people. You have to like open yourself up to meeting different people and going places. And also, let me tell you a secret. There's no reason in God's good green earth that I can get up that early, get back to the house, get the kids ready, pack their lunches, get them to school, and then work all day and do the same thing. There's no reason you couldn't leave your house five minutes early to pick me up on the way

and go together. 100%. Yes, same. No excuse, woman. I love you so much and I'm not going to the gym at 5 in the morning. That is, I know myself so well, and that is setting myself up for failure. I will go to the gym at seven. Also, let's go to John and Vinnie's and look cute and be my wing person. I will because they just open in Studio City. I'm a really good wing person. You won't leave the fucking house. I'm telling her all these things and I don't leave that. Yeah. Yeah, but she knows what she, you know, she knows the recipe. I know the recipe. That's the recipe. So I'm going to be yes to everything. Yep. Yeah. Let's watch. We're going to call.

we're going to check back in. How long should we give? A month. 30 days. Yeah. In a month. Okay, today is, I'm setting a reminder on my phone. Yeah, it's like what Shonda Rhymes did.

September 30th. I'm setting a reminder. Okay. Look it. Hey, guys, peep her Instagram. What's your Instagram? Vagatronic. That's right.

Vagatronic. The funniest, most alive, brilliant woman that would be the most outstanding partner. So, yeah, give her a gander. I'm calling this, Uncle Jennifer. Give me a gander. Listen, I'll see you out on the streets, people. Oh, yeah. You got to go to the gym, to the farmer's market, the grocery store, any sort of gathering

that people are just yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. All yes. Invite me to all the things. Yes. Done. And I'll be a yes. I keep inviting you everywhere. Yeah, what haven't you gone?

Yeah. Where have you invited me to your house, which I have. I love going to. Yeah, but also the gym. That's where the men are. There's lots of guys there. We're checking in a month. At 5 o'clock in the morning?

Yeah, I went today at 10. You can come on Fridays with me at 9 a.m. or 10? I could do 9 a.m. on a Friday, for sure. Sit. Done. The place was packed with men. I love it. Okay.

We're on the road here. I can't wait to check back in. I'm excited for you. I'm excited for you, Vega. You guys, thank you. I was literally thinking about this. I went for a walk after the gym today and I was like, I'm so ready. I know I'm going to make somebody an amazing partner and what am I going to do?

Where am I going to go? And like, look at this. The universe shows up at your point of readiness. Like, I love it. All signs point to yes. That's amazing. Yeah, Spirit meets you at your point of action. When you're ready and you take any sort of action, even though it's a garage gym.

You went to the gym. You took action. I sure did. To get your body ready for your man. Listen, I'm up in the gym, working on my fitness. That means love. We love you. We love you so much.

I mean, I love you. You and your future partner love us. Yes, me and my future partner love you so much. And he's really a great guy. I can't wait for you to meet him. So exciting. Fantastic. Can't wait.

Okay. Love you. Bye. Bye. Yeah. There you go. I'm excited to see what happens for her. I think we gave her good orderly direction.

I do too. I feel good about it. Do you? I do. She could also like slide into some DMs if she just like wants to be balzy. Ooh. True. Right?

The thing about Jennifer, and this isn't a secret, I tell her this all the time, is she's so. particular. And I'm like, you know, God doesn't give with two hands. You're going to have to make some trades. I will tell you, for me, like, top of my list is not maybe what I don't even want to say you would expect, but funny. Like, if you make me laugh, everyone would have expected money. I said funny. I'm joking. Because I'm funny. You are funny. That's why you're my best friend. But that's the thing about Jennifer, is she so funny? Like if she could be with a funny,

but she'll be like, oh, he's got weird, he's got a weird right left tooth, you know? And you're just like, no. No. No. No. Mm-mm. Yeah.

You've got to be open. You have to be open in general. To experiencing something outside of your comfort. 100%. I think we just told her what to do. And I feel good about it. Do you? Yeah, I do.

Do you know what I don't feel good about? I had two feelings today and my face really hurt. And I had a crown yesterday. I know, we are so in sync. So in sync. What were you going to say? We should do an in sync dance. How do you feel about guys and girls being friends?

What do you mean? I think it's great. Great. How would you feel? No, this is a question for you because I'm not married. Like, so if Jeff has female friends. He does. But that he like hangs out with.

Like, I'm going to Taekwondo with so-and-so. Yeah. So he, I guess one of his training partners in Taekwondo is a female. Okay. And you assume this because their name is Cindy? I don't know. But you know it's a girl. Yeah.

It's a girl. And it's a training partner. I don't care. Jeff has female friends. Yeah. And when we first got together, I remember I would get bothered. here's what bothered me. I would get bothered that he would have sleepovers with them

because they wouldn't live in the same town. What? What? They would come in from out of town for school or for our workshop, whatever. And they would stay with him. And so he would have... In his bed?

I don't think so. You don't know. I think they would sleep on the couch or he would sleep on the couch and give them his bed. That didn't even bother me. I was like, that's fine. I didn't like it that they drank together.

Mm-hmm. Because you don't, yeah. I don't trust alcohol. Right. So once he stopped drinking, like, I don't care. I know he has females in his life that he talks to, that he turns to, that are good friends. Even Jennifer, who we called earlier, she was like, yeah, Jeff called me the other day and wanted to, like, get some support on something. I'm like, that's so cute.

He called Jennifer to get support for something? That's really sweet. So I don't mind it. Great. Well, he knows you have male friends. I have a good, like, little chunk of guys friends. Even like male friends that you were once romantic with. Oh, yeah, that's true.

Yeah. He doesn't, it doesn't bother him. Confidence is attractive. It is very attractive. Yeah. because he knows, it's like it didn't work out with that person, you know? I don't know. I mean, I don't know how I would be in that situation.

I tried that with him and his ex. Yeah. But then she crossed some lines and then I was like, no. Not down. Yeah. So what about you? What do you think of that? I mean, like, I guess the last person I dated had female friends and I was totally fine.

Has it ever been an issue? where you're like this, bitch? Like, I feel like, yes when people, like, cross a line or a boundary, which feels weird. But, you know, my brain, I can't remember. But here's the thing. Do you think that people are always like,

if there's a male and a female friendship, one always is attracted to the other, and one always likes one? Do you think that's true? I think there's circumstances where that's not true. I agree. But I really do. I really do.

Yeah. I can tell if someone's into me. Right. Right? And I know... All your guy friends are into you. I know. I only hang out with guys that are into me.

No, they're not. You know, like, they're just not, and I'm not. And I don't know. If you were born off for like a perfect example. Example. It's literally brother and sister. Yeah. I have that, don't I?

With who? Hmm. Josh. 100%. 100%. There you go. See? Same exact thing.

Yeah. It's like literal little family. You're like... Family. Yep. Good job. I know. I found one.

You found one. We can leave it that. Because most of the other ones, I'm like, no, he wants to fuck you. Oh. Am I right? Okay, so segue. way, but we do want to talk about continue. It's out September 6th.

We're very proud of our friend. And, you know, it's almost like, you know, I don't know if you give like a trigger warning because it could maybe affect people, but that's also what we want, like, to impact and get the message out. And that's a part of the whole thing, right? It's a very heavy film and a really important message.

And she also started a nonprofit to go with it for suicide prevention, which is continue on organization. Continueon.org. Thank you. That's what I was looking for in your eyes. And you found it. I found it in your eyes. Check it out.

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