Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - Nell Tiger Free on Game of Thrones, Ghost Encounters, and Gravestone QR-codes

Episode Date: April 22, 2024

Nell Tiger Free [Game of Thrones, Servant] talks to Rachel and Olivia about getting cast for Game of Thrones at 14, the most dorky thing about her, and her new film The First Omen. They also discuss the zombie apocalypse, real life ghost stories, and what they would put on their gravestone QR-codes.Broad Ideas is supported by Blissy. Try now risk-free for 60 nights, at blissy.com/rachel, and use code RACHEL to get an additional 30% off.Broad Ideas is supported by IQBAR. Get 20% off all IQBAR products. Text IDEAS to 64000. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details.Broad Ideas is supported by Talkspace. Get $80 off of your first month with Talkspace when you go to Talkspace.com/IDEAS and enter promo code SPACE80.Broad Ideas is supported by Maybelline. If you, or someone you know is experiencing anxiety or depression, Maybelline New York is funding free, confidential support: Text TOGETHER to 741741 or visit Maybelline.com/bravetogether to learn more.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Woo! I feel like just the more we bring it in the intro. That was better the interviews get? Yep. Today, Nell Tiger Free. Seriously, the coolest name, I think, ever, because it's her actual name.

It's not a stage name? Nope. It's not a stage name. It is her name, and she's, She will actually tell us that herself. She will live up to it. Stick around and listen. She was on Game of Thrones.

She was in Servant, which was great. You love that. Love that show. That's why Rob was like, We have to get an alt-ty. Yeah. The first omen is her movie that is out. It's scary.

Scary movie. Let's get to know. Round and round inside To join us on this journey As we take a little ride We'll talk about dogs and kids and things We'll talk about chicks and tampon strings We'll talk about boys that and me

Because people die We're so happy to have you here with that I'm really, really happy to be here. This is fun. Thank you for having me. Oh my gosh, your energy, everything is just like Awesome Oh, thank you. Yeah. But yeah, so you don't live here. You're just in town. First in town.

First in town. Press stuff. For all of the stuff. All of the stuff. All of the stuff. All the stuff has been, the stuffing. Yeah. No, I'm here for another like 15 days, 16 days. Oh, wow. Okay. So it's like the full. Full thing. Yeah. And then do you live in England? Yeah, I live in London. You live in London. Mm-hmm. I'm so jealous of that. I know. I try to. I'm jealous of living here. I want to live here. Do you? Do you? Yeah. But I want to live wherever I am at the time.

Right. Right. Like every time I'm visiting a place, I go online and look to see what's for like sale or rents are available. Because I'm like, oh, I'm going to live here now. Exact same thing. But I've never left LA. Do you like the sun? Well, this is a complicated question.

I know. Because in theory I do. But I actually cower like in the shade like a vampire. Like I really, really do. Like I like, like, like. Like. I like the idea that I'm going to go and like tan by the pool. And then I'll just go sit under like an umbrella and just will not let any sun touch my body.

So I like the warmth. Yeah. But not. Yeah. I don't know what it is. I think I'm just committed to being translucent. I think, no, because I was a nanny back in the day for a family from England. Right.

And the little girl was five years old and she would cry every day. And she'd be like, it's just so dreadful. here. The sun is always shining. And she'd be like, you need to come to London where it rains. And then I went and moved back with them and it rained every day and she'd be like, isn't this lovely? And she's like, wait, this is opposite. I think sometimes English people have sort of like a rain, Stockholm syndrome. That's right. That's right. We become attached to it a little bit. When it's removed as a factor, it's like, hang on a minute. What do you mean I'm dry today? Yeah. So you've been there your whole life. You're born, raised, everything.

Wow. So how did you get into this world of acting and such? It was an accident. I swear on my life, it really, really was. I was like 11. And I just had way too much energy. Like, I just exhausted my mother. I just was like run around and I was a tiring child. And so she was like, okay, what do I do with this kid? So she like dropped me off their Saturday school where we'd like, like sing and dance and act and run around and had juice and it was just like like a little kiddie daycare kind of situation. And then it was like back at the time where directors used to come around to like schools and like kids clubs and just stare at children. That's weird. It's a weird time.

Like they would just come around and just stare at the kids and be like, oh, I'll take this one. So it's like kid shopping. And they asked me to audition for something because they thought I looked right or, you know, was the right age or whatever. And I ended up getting really far along in the audition process, which I don't think anyone expected. And so I got like a kids agent after that. Yeah. I'd go up for like kids movies and things. And then I joined my agency that I'm with now when I was 14.

And my first audition with them was Game of Thrones. No. You're so insane, the first audition. Yeah. Yeah. It was weird. And it just, now I have no qualifications. It keeps getting weirder, right?

It just keeps getting weirder. It really, really does. Oh my gosh. I've woken up and I'm 24 and I'm like, oh, now this sort of has to be the thing that I do. This is what I'm doing. To come out the gate on Game of Thrones. Yeah. Like, did you, I know, I've read that you didn't even really know other than you're like,

oh, princess dresses and like that's great. But did you have any clue in your mind what you were getting into? Not really. I knew that my mom and my sister loved the show. I hadn't seen it. And I knew that they, I could tell how excited they were. And my agents, you know, like, this is a big deal. And so I kind of, I grasped the gravitas of it a little bit.

But I just didn't. It was a weird, I mean, I'd done other jobs before as a kid. But it was, it felt like the first job I'd done as a, like a young woman almost. I mean, I was 14, so hey, but, you know. And, yeah, it was just. just like the sets were massive. There were so many, so many cast members. And it just felt like it was like acting on like its biggest scale. It is. TV on its biggest scale. And I just thought while we were doing it, I was like, oh, this just must be what it's all like. Yes. This must all

be like this. Like, um, and it isn't. No, you're like everything is. It isn't. It isn't. It isn't. Wow. I mean, it's just to be thrown in. And how old were you? 14. You were 14. Right. That is insane. It was not. It was the weirdest part of it, I think, was the like kind of almost like double life element of it all. I kind of felt like someone was like a like a poor man, Tanna Montana. Like, yeah, because I would be, like, be shooting. Because we shot like sporadically with Game of Thrones. Like it wasn't like all in one sitting.

So it took like a year for me to shoot my bits, but just at different points during the year. So I would go and I would shoot Thrones and then I would go back to school. And I would be back in detention and genuine like back. It just at school and I was like, wait, I'm a start. I was like, people do my makeup. How did kids treat you any differently? Like, no way or go. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It was actually more the teachers that. No. Oh, shit. Yeah.

Really? Yeah. That makes sense, though. It was more the teachers. I've got such great parents. Like, they're the opposite of the biz and they're just very like, they were just adamant that I wasn't going to turn into a little shit. Sorry, can I swear?

I know. So fucking literally. Fantastic. They were just adamant. They didn't want me to be like a nasty little kid actor or whatever. So they just drilled into me to just like not not talk about it but just never, you know, never fucking like give it the begin. Sorry, that's an English expression. Give it the bigon.

We love English expression. So I wouldn't talk about it. I just wouldn't talk about the show. I just didn't do it. I just didn't at all. But the teachers at school, they were the ones that they were quite, some of them. Some of them were quite nasty about it. What?

Yeah. Oh, like, judgey that you were doing? Yeah, like really, really judgy and unpleasant. And I, it was some of them, like the teachers I'd already loved and had a good relationship with were really great and supportive and lovely about it and excited about it. And then there was a handful of them that, like, would make really nasty comments or, like, I remember once I took a bottle of water into the library and you're not allowed to drink or eat in the library, but it was seal. And I just got in it from the cafeteria and I just was walking in to get like a book from my friend or something. And I just had this bottle of water. And the librarian who is like, you can't bring that in here.

I was like, oh, it's sealed. I'll just put it in my bag. I won't bring it in here. And he was like, Nell, you might be a queen on TV. But in school, you're just like everybody else. Oh. You can't drink in my library. And I was like, actually, I'm a princess, but no.

Actually, no big treats. No big deal. I was like, oh, that's new. Okay. And things like that would happen quite a lot. Like I would get, like I was crying once a teacher was having a go at me and she was like, helps to be an actress to turn the waterworks on, doesn't it, no. Like, things like that.

And it was just, yeah, the teachers, there was a little band of them that were quite nasty. That makes me sad. I know, it's not right. It's like, you know, you're so young and you're just formative years and everything. And then you have adults, like, you're setting that example or treating you that way. It was, it was weird. Yeah. It was really, really weird.

It was like, I wasn't expecting it from. From the kids, yeah, obviously. Sure. But it's projection. Yeah. It's projection on their values and what they think you must be experiencing. But when I hear that, what angers me, because I'm a parent, we know this because we have to do this all the time, is we focus on the good things, right? And we try to let go of the things that are negative.

So if a kid is acting a certain way, like, as a teacher, they should be, like, focusing on, like, I'm really glad. you're remaining humble and staying part of your fellows. And wow, now, thank you for listening to me and taking the direct. Like, they should be the ones guiding and directing new still. Yeah. 100%. Adults. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. And that anchors me. Yeah. It was, it was weird. It was really, really weird. It was like the first time I'd experience kind of like, I don't know. I wasn't necessarily like a well-behaved student.

I wasn't like rude or anything. I was just, I'm a bit of scatterbrain, so I was just late or I'd forget a book, right? My skirt was too short, you know, things. You all know how that is. Things like that. Like, I was just kind of like, like, I've always had that energy and I've tried to work really hard on quelling it a little bit as I've gotten older because it can be quite a lot. Like, just this like, I don't know if you saw me when I walked in the gate, but I was like bags dropping and hoodie all over the places because I'm just. That's comfortable.

I like it. I like it. No, no, we like it. Yeah. We're our birthdays are a day apart. Are they really? Yeah, you're October 13th and the 14th. Oh, really?

Yeah, because I was like, Libra. Libra. We keep getting all these Libras. We do. We get a lot of Libras. Yeah, I wonder what that is. Have you seen a video of General Tager, I think? And she's like, I'm a Libra.

Every time I hear Libra, that's just what I think of. Big Libra? He should go, big Libra. She looks really confused. I don't get that. You should watch it. It's hilarious. We will.

She's always, I mean, sending the most random videos. I'm surprised you have. I'm sorry, that was a segue. Sorry, carry on. No, I was just thinking like that energy is like you're always balancing. So you were balancing being a student and a typical student and then also on the biggest show. On the biggest show ever. In the world.

Yeah. What was it like for you entering that fandom? I feel like I'm just, this is all quite sad. But like, yeah, I'm like, Jesus, I used to like cheer up a bit. but initially it was actually really unpleasant because I replaced a girl on the show. They recast the original actress Amy Richardson. She played Marcella when she was very, very young.

And then Marcella grew up and they recast her and they recast it with me. And the people, like the fans of Game of Thrones were really, really unhappy about it initially. Like I would get death threats. I was getting, like, my mum turned off my Twitter and she was like, no. Like this is a good mom

No, no, no, no. Because I was just getting like a lot of really, really negative comments like, you know, cast Amy back and it wasn't her fault. Like, we were just two young girls who had just been pitted against each other. And, you know, at the age I was at, I was like,

the sky is falling. I was like, oh my God, they're going to get lynched for this. But then it calmed down and once the show came out, everyone was really lovely and it was a nice thing. But Game in Thrones is kind of a blur for me to be honest. Yeah.

Like, I kind of just chalked up to, like, the personal relationships I made with, with people on the show. But as far as filming the show goes, it was 10 years ago. I actually had, like, a really, really hazy memory of it. Wow. But it formed you. So it went in, right? Because you were that young.

And I'm just curious how psychologically, I think it's hard for anyone at any age to deal with negative criticism. Yeah. But then you enter it with the whole world doing that. How did you separate yourself as now from what they were coming at you for? I've kind of always had the same defense mechanism towards anything, and it's just like sort of like rye, self-deprecating humor. Okay.

And that's kind of how I handle it now. Honestly, where it's just like, if you, I try not to take myself too seriously. I try and remember at the end of the day that it's just TV, it's just a movie. Nobody knows me personally. These people are saying this stuff. They don't actually know me, unless some of them do. But now they will. Now they will. Now they will. But I just try and laugh at it. I really, really do. Yeah. Sometimes one will slip under the surface and it will get you a little bit. But I do, I do just try and laugh it and see the humor in it, you know. Yeah. Because it can be wildly funny. Like some of them, it really can. Some of the nastier comments I've gotten, a really, really funny. Yeah, if you can laugh, I know. And you just have to sort of laugh at it. I think it's such a good thing.

And it seems like, you know, like you said, your parents, like that you had a very strong, supportive upbringing and support system. And that has a lot to do with it too. And the fact that you can laugh at things also speaks to that. Yeah. You know? Yeah. It's something like, and I love that you say that.

Because some of the things are so ridiculous, right? And people feel that they have the right to say whatever they want or feel. In a way, they do. They do. In a way, because, you know, I'm under no illusions that this is, like, I'm in a job where I'm very, you know, confidently putting myself out for public scrutiny. Do you know what I mean? Like, it's just something that comes along with it.

Right. And it's like you can't fight off every bad comment. You can't delete every bad comment. I mean, much to my mother's dismay. I know that she's on, I am there under multiple pseudonyms just trying to reporting every negative comment. she sees and it's like working over time. Yeah. For sure. But to be honest, they don't actually bother me that much. It's great. That's great. They don't. No, yeah. Awesome. But I too think humor is medicine. Like I help people in coaching and stuff and they'll be working out a problem. And a lot of

times they want a solution that's really deep or really like spiritual or meaningful. And I'll just be like, have you tried humor? And they're like, what do you mean? I'm like, have you tried humor? Have you tried laughing? Yeah, or like making light of it on your own and just kind of diffusing the pain and the sting. Like, it's actually a medicine. It really, really is.

Yeah. I completely agree. It really, really is. And it's such, it's quite, it's like, it's quite a powerful thing to be able to do to, like, turn the nasty into laughter. Like, it's a nice little. Nice little weapon in the arsenal. No, exactly. For sure.

Yeah. So you've, okay, so you, the first omen, we're going to talk about your movie for a minute. Yeah, we are. That's happening. First of all, I am like so terrified of like genre or horror, like scary movies, yet they're the only ones that will keep me up at night. So I make the mistake of watching them right before bed. But I think it must be so fun to make them. It is.

So, yeah, just tell us. us a little bit about the movie and your experience and all of it. Yeah, I mean, to be honest, we had a blast. We really did. I know it looks like I'm having a terrible time, but I'm not. I'm actually really, really enjoyed it. The cast and the crew on this film, like, genuinely from the bottom of my heart, which is the most amazing group of people. Like, and that makes or breaks anything that you do. Like anything. You could be making

something of such lighthearted content and if there's one bad apple like it can bring the whole thing down it really really can. And in this situation even though we were you know dealing with some pretty

heavy content and subject matter and we knew it was things that we were going to get pushed back on and physically it was a very taxing role for me emotionally it was pretty exhausting and to get to those places sometimes but I just it felt like I had family

away from family. It was like a home away from home. Like it was, it just was the most supportive environment. And, you know, having our Kasha at the helm of it made a world of difference because it was like we were doing the whole thing together. You know, it felt like a real partnership. And we get, Kasha and I literally can't have a conversation without one of us crying on the other because we're so grateful to each other. I'm so, I'm so grateful to her because like this was, It could have been, under somebody else's guidance, it could have been a traumatising experience. Sure. You know, it could have been.

But, yeah, and we laughed a lot. We laughed a lot. You're doing things that are so absurd. You've got Bill Nyey in a full Cardinals outfit on a pulley having to keep a straight face being like pulled away slow-mo like it. So it looks like I'm moving away from him, but really he's moving away from me. And he's got to like keep eye contact with me and be completely deadpan. And it's like one of the most intense moments of the movie. And he's just disappearing.

And the dolly was squeaking. It was like, he was just disappearing into the dark. So I just looked at him and I was like, and I just lost it. And it's like moments like that where you kind of recognize the absurdity of what you're doing. For sure. Yeah.

Do you work on any, do you work with a coach or anything on that acting? You do it all. It's all you. It's all you, baby. It's all me, baby. Well, because I could imagine if that would be a hard role to put yourself in, right? Yeah, yeah. Well, I say it's all me, but it's all me and better.

And everyone. And every one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, of course. And better, more qualified actors that I've watched and stolen from. Yeah. The thing is, is that I always, I never think I can do it until it's happening. That is just the best way I can say it.

Is that, like, I'll read something on the page and I'll be like, how in the first, fuck am I going to do that? How the fuck am I going to do that? I have no idea how to do that. And then it gets to the moment and you get this adrenaline and this pressure, this crazy pressure, and you just do, you just do it. I really think that more people could try their hand at this than than they think because it's amazing what happens when you have to do it. When you have to perform. It's amazing what your body clicks into. And it's just like, okay, I need to deliver so I'm going to. Yeah. I've actually never heard it described that way. Yeah. Because it is that kind of fight or flight. It's exactly that. Yeah. And then you're just like, oh, I have to do this. Fuck it. Got to do it. I have to pretend that. It's not funny. It's just, it's just committing, right? And sometimes it is the adrenaline and fear that pushes you to commit. Totally. Totally. Yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Yeah. So we just, I got to just scare you. Honestly, I know it sounds trivial, honestly, but it's like people think they can't do it.

Yeah. I do. And then you just do. You just don't have a choice. Yeah. You just do it. Just do it. Get it done.

Kind of like with everything. Yeah. You know what I was going to say, that's like a mentality for life. Yeah. My high school boyfriend's dad put this in my head when I was like 15 years old. He's like, just get it done. Just do it. Just get it done.

And that was me like lugging a heavy suitcase like upstairs at the airport. And it's like, just get it done. Yeah, it applies everyone. It's just like show up. Exactly it. Right? Yeah. I just went skiing for the first time in a long time.

I was like doing the same thing. Like, I'm not going to be able to do this. This is a waste of my time. Why am I doing this? And then I had that thing click in that was just like, just show up and stay out of your way. Just do the fucking thing. Yeah. And then by the end I was like, I ski.

I'm like, I am scared. You know? But it is that premise of like be afraid, show up. Do it. Three, two, one go. Three, two, one go. Yeah. I like that.

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Yeah. Yeah, it's so hard, you know, and I think acting in general and like whatever, but especially doing like, you know, a scary movie. Yeah. But I love hearing the other side of it, right? Because, like, they're so, it looks so fucking scary. But, like, to hear, you know, the absurdity, but, like, in the best way of some of the things,

just makes me feel better about what I'm watching. Yeah, honestly, it should do, because it's, it's, because once you see behind the curtain and then you see, you know, like, this isn't real. Yeah, yeah, like, this isn't, yeah. Right. Because, like, I even, like, when I first watched the trailer, I was like, I don't think I can watch this. Yeah. Like, there's children, and it's scary.

Like, little girls. Oh, I like it. There's nothing scarier. So much. There's nothing scarier. Children. Then specifically a little girl. Just children.

Like little girl ghosts are the scariest. Little girl ghosts. Yeah. Yeah. I stand by it. That's quite a popular fear. I know. The little girl ghosts.

But I feel like physically you could take a little girl ghost. Do you believe in ghosts? It's the nightgowns? I do. Okay. Yeah. Yeah, we want to get into it. We do very, very much.

Oh, have you had experiences? Multiple. Please tell us. Oh, my God. This is our favorite. Yeah. We're like, what's their names? It's like the Saturday night pie of course.

It's like the sweater weather ladies, you know? No, I don't know. You don't know? No. They're like, oh my God, it's sweater weather. Okay, come on. Gross. Honestly, we should have my mom here because she would really blow your mind.

She would blow your mind. Oh, I can start. I'll start from my earliest one. I can remember. Oh, my God. I have the chills. Getting ready. my jaw-draught.

So me and my mum, my sister, my dad, we all lived in our house growing up. And my bedroom was, I didn't like being away from my sister. My sister had the top attic room. And then there was this little annex off to the side of it. It was like a broom cupboard. But I insisted that I sleep in there. I was like, no, I need to be next to my sister through a wall. I'm sleeping here.

So that was my bedroom in the house. Even though there was another one, but that was the one. You're like, I'm in the closet. That was it. And I started running down the stairs, like, every night. And I'd be like, mum, and I was like, round three at this point. And I was like, Mommy, the lady with the hairbrushes back. She's telling me to leave.

The lady with the hairbrushes back. And my mom was like, okay. Immediately, she was like, no, no, no, no. No, no, no, no, no. Let's deal with this. So, like, two days later, this old woman knocks on our front door. And she was like, hello. So my sister used to live in this house.

Is it okay if I come in and see what you've done with it? And my mum was like, yeah, of course. And so she came in to the house and she was like, can I see her bedroom? I really want to see her bedroom. Oh, God. And my mom was like, sure. So she goes up the stairs and my mom's obviously expecting her to go into the master bedroom when my mom sleeps.

Right. And it's like the main bedroom in the house. But then she goes all the way up to the top. And my mom's thinking, if she goes in to the last. But annex. If she goes into that tiny bedroom, I swear to God, we're moving. So she walks into the annex into the tiny room, which is my room. And my mom was like, why did she sleep in here? And she was like, oh, she just always found it comforting. She just liked this room. I can't. This was her bedroom. My mom was like, okay. And she was like, by any chance,

did your sister have a silver hairbrush and would wear a string of pearls? And she was like, yes. Yes, she did. And my mom was like, right, I think she's been hitting my kid. And she was like, what? And she was like, I think she's been visiting my kid and asking her to leave her bedroom. And my mom was like, did she die in this room? And she was like, she slipped into a coma in this room in her bed. This was the last time she was conscious was here. And then she died in the hospital.

My mom was like, copy that, copy that. Great news. So my mom was friends with this white witch, Davina, and she called her over. No big deal. No big deal. Yeah. And she called her over and she was like, Davina, you need to look at the house. And Davina goes, my mom doesn't tell her anything.

She goes straight up to my annex room, go straight up and there. She goes, there's something in here. We blessed the house. I had to walk around, little three-year-old me with the sage and blessed the house and go, please leave my room alone. Like, just like walking around like, bye-bye, lady. And then apparently I came downstairs that night to my mum, and I was like, Mommy, the lady went out the window tonight.

She was away goodbye. My mom was like, okay. And that, yeah. I have, she was like, that's the longest one. Ting everywhere. I know. It's weird that it like comforts me. No, it's like I almost sort of crying.

Yeah. It was wild. It just felt like. No, it's. I grew up with a mom very into all that. But you're going to say, I grew up with the ghost. I grew up with the ghost too. No, my mom's always been like, they're not going to hurt you.

Like, it's fine. Yeah. Like, she's always been like ghosts. Yeah, but don't worry. They're not going to hurt you. Yeah. Like if you see one, you know. Yeah.

There's spirits, whatever. And I'm like, okay, cool. Yeah. I've never felt any sort of fear. Wow. Well, that was one. once. It's actually only, this is really quick. It's actually only now. It was like a long time. This is our, this is our fit. This is what we care about. It's a, it was actually, well, that will ruin the ending. So I, again, so I moved to a different room. And because after the annex situation, I got older and I was just like, I'm going to go to a different room. So I was around five at this point. And I started talking to my mom. My mom is, and Davina, her white witch friend was convinced that I'm like some sort of portal. Like I'm like, I'm like,

Like I'm a receptacle because I, it's so much has happened. I can't even tell you. I'd need a year to tell you all about it. But with this particular one, it's the only one that's never really sat quite right with me. Because I used to come, we had this old wardrobe that was like 200 years old. Like it was really passed down through family, family, family. And it was in my room at the time. And I always felt kind of strange about it.

I don't know why. I just never just felt kind of strange about it. I remember as a kid. And I came into my mom's room again, and I was like, Mommy, there's a lady and her face is a hair dryer. And she's in my wardrobe. And my mom was like, not this shit again. Oh, no. She was like, not again.

And then I saw her two or three more times, and I don't remember seeing her again, but I remember being terrified of the lady with the hair dry face. Terrified. Hairdry face. And what a hair. Well, it was only really recently that I was sitting with my boyfriend. I just went, he was like, what? And I was like, oh my God, hair dryer lady. He was like, hair dryer lady. And I was like, it wasn't a hair dryer. It was a gas mask. Oh, no. She was wearing a gas mask. And I've only realized, yeah. And I only realized as an adult, like, really recently that as a kid,

I was thinking it was a hair dryer, but it was like I could see, I can still see her now. And I realized, oh, my God, no, she had a gas mask on her face. That does make me want to vomit a little bit. It really actually makes... I'm frozen. Like, I peed a little. Yeah. Yeah. Because that's the kind of stuff that's like, you know. Wait, did you ever get an answer of like who that could have been or anything?

Nothing. No. But something about the wardrobe, the wardrobe is very, very old. Very old. It might have just been something lingering from, you know, old-time and... Old school gas masks that had the attachment or something. Like scary gas masks. Yeah.

Game of Thrones like... Have you ever done anything to, like... Are you into that? Like, are you open to connecting to the other? Like, what if you're a medium? I don't know. I do have dreams and they happen all the time. Really?

All the time. Yeah. I dream in, like, flashes of images and I'll, like, sometimes write them down and be like, this, this, this, this. And then, honestly, the next day or the day after, all of those images, it will come to fruition. So I don't know. Do you remember, like, the craziest one or anything, any examples?

Yeah, but it was, it was so, I mean, we'll, we'll, we'll, of honesty, I was going to sleep and I had these three images in my head and they were really, really visceral and I couldn't get rid of them. And one was myself crying, leaning against an airplane window. And I was like, weird. The other one was a needle going into skin, just like repeatedly a needle going into skin. And then the other one was, well, this is quite deep to be honest. No, no, no, no.

Yeah, the other one was me, like, frozen with my backup against a wall. And I just couldn't stop seeing, like, the back up against the wall, the needle going into the skin and crying on an airplane. And I told my boyfriend at the time, well, he's still my boyfriend. I told my boyfriend. At the time it happened. At the time it happened. And I was like, I'm seeing these three images.

And it's driving me insane. I can't sleep. I'm seeing them over and over again. He was like, I'm sure it's fine. The next day, we had quite an unfortunate incident. And we went on a break at the time. And I left and I'd forgotten about all the things that I saw. And I left and that morning I went and I got on a plane.

I came here, came to L.A. and I was crying on a plane. And then when I landed, I got a tattoo to make myself feel better. And then after the tattoo, I was sat in my aunt's kitchen and I was like pinned up against the wall because I couldn't stop crying. And then I realized like a day later, I was like, oh, I saw all these three things happening. And it was a while. time it didn't even occur to you. At the time while it was going on, it didn't even occur to me because I was so, like, you know, in the moment. We're fine now, don't worry. We love me now. We love me now. It happens. It happens for human beings, with you and me.

But it was wild. It was wild. Do you keep a journal? Do you keep, like, notes? I have a diary. Yeah. And honestly, to be honest, I'm not that cool. I don't like have a mole skin that I carry around most of the time. I just jot down on my notes on my phone, like plain tattoo. Like, do you know what I mean? Yeah. I do that too because I've had dreams that certain people have died and then they died. Oh, yeah. What? Oh, yeah.

I had a note in my phone. Who? Because it was like this one random person that we knew from high school. I had a dream they died. So I put it in my phone because I was like, note that. Right? And then I had it again where someone else died. Like I didn't see the death, but I saw like all the cops coming and I saw all this stuff.

And then I wrote it down. The guy didn't die, but he ended up getting arrested and going to jail for a really long time. So I was like, oh, that's that. Right. Like, certain things. Certain things in dreams will come, and then I have to, like, note it when it happens. Yeah. I'm like, oh.

Yeah, I'm the same. Like a note for Brian. He's not going to be good. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And now that you're saying it, like, I get flashes of things, like, randomly. Yeah.

I'll be driving and something totally random just, like, pop into my head. and then it's gone, like out of nowhere, not related to anything, and I should probably pay attention to those things. You should note it. Because it's, I don't know whether it's like a psychic, like I don't know about all that stuff, but I do think that we're so incredibly intuitive, like even more than we realize that we are. And maybe it's not a prediction, but it's like, because you've had those images in your head, it affects what happens.

Do you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, it might not necessarily be like seeing the few. future, but it could be heavily influencing it without you really knowing. Right. Well, yes. Do you know what I mean? Absolutely, 100%.

And it can also be, I was just seeing, I was reading this thing on like the difference between being clairvoyant or audio voiant. So like certain people get, they can hear it, right? They'll hear something like a name called or they'll hear certain things. Certain people get images. Certain people, so we get messages in different ways. And it's like really cool to like ask like, how do I get my messages? Is it through dreams?

Is it through hearing? Is it through seeing visuals? And it's like those things are, I believe, informing us of something. I completely agree. Do you get a certain song stuck in your head? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Do you?

Yeah. Yeah. So they say that there's something to that. Like it's not just a random thing that like, oh, that song stuck in my head. Like there's something in that for you. I'm always looking for it. Yeah. Like when things happen, I'm always like, okay, what does it mean?

I get signs like no other. You do. You get a lot of signs. I get a lot. So the point where I'm like, why? Like enough. Yeah. Enough is enough. Yeah.

But it happens all the time. And I think it has to be with the people that are more open and like have the thing. Totally. If you're more receptive to it, it's just like the more you see, the more receptive you become. It's like a snowball effect until all of a sudden you're like. walking through a graveyard, communicating with the dead. Oh, my God. But some people are super close to it.

Some people are close. I think it's happening to all of us. We just don't all. If you're open. Oh, you said graveyard. And I saw the coolest thing. And this is a good question for people. I'm obsessed with graveyards.

Okay. Like absolutely fucking love them. Yeah. And I saw now they're putting QR codes on them. Oh, I saw this. You saw this? Yeah. What?

So you can go and scan it and like see. they had like this old people's first dance, their last dance, they're this, they're the... I saw one where it's like recipes. Oh, that's totally different. On like a two-stop. The difference between you and I. I'm like, no, and it was like the grandmong passed away, like her recipe for... Oh, that's amazing.

I know. That's so sweet. What if we just go to graveyards and we just got all of them? All the QR codes. I thought it was so brilliant. Because then I'm like, what would be on your QR code? It makes you think so different. You're like, it wouldn't be this, it wouldn't be that.

What would I put for the people to see? To remember you by. What would you put? What would you put? What would you put? Yeah. Because that sort of just like eradicates all the things that you think are important that are going on at the time. And instead it's like, well, no, what's actually important?

Right. I don't know. I would want to do other people's things, which is not good. Like, I want, like, my parents sweating. and me being little there and like, I suppose, I mean, hopefully if I get a wedding, I'd want that. But that hasn't happened yet. Do you want a wedding? Do you want marriage and stuff? Yeah. Yeah. This is a public service announcement. Stop what you're doing. I think so. I go in and out with it. I fluctuate with it. I think there's

something so wonderful about the idea of just being with one person. I really, really do. Yeah. I'm a big monogamist. Yeah. How long have you guys been together? We've been together to. two years and seven months. Yeah. I'm not counting or anything. Not at all. Not like two, seven months.

Not like eight days and 12 hours. One minute. 53. Yeah. Noreans got like two, two, two, just over two and a half years. Yeah. That's awesome. Yeah.

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Oh, that's so much easier, I think. That's so easy. But I do think like you said it, it just eliminates all the bullshit. Yeah. Because you're like these things I think are important. I wouldn't put them on my QR code. Right. At all?

No, definitely not. Like my show reel. My show reel on my Qargo. Yeah, exactly. Like, I wonder if Game of Thrones would even make it on your... It certainly wouldn't. That's what I'm saying. No, definitely not.

No, I'd put nothing about what... Well, obviously, you want to celebrate your achievements, I guess. But you probably wouldn't know. I'd just put, like, home videos. Yeah, like family, mom and my sister, my dad and Isaac and, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, you know what I would do.

I'm totally lying. I would make... I'm completely lying. I would make a video and it would be like funny. Oh, oh. Like I would make a funny video. Like I'd be like, if you're watching this, I'm not really dead. I've skipped town.

Or it'd make it like an audio of like me banging against the casket and be like, let me out. I would do something like that. I genuinely, that's why I would do. I like it. That's why I would do. I like it. That's awesome. I had to make my friends laugh on my last.

Oh, that's so cute. What a memory. You know? I think I'd do something like that. Yeah. I think that's great. Or you just like appear with like that old school gas mask on. Oh my gosh.

I just do a video of me like, woo. She's a little. Yeah, like it's a ghost. I would totally do that. I don't, you know what you would do? I mean, I, like the first instinct is just my kids. Yeah, I know. Like that's all that comes to mind.

Me too. I'm like. Like holding my kid. I don't know. Like that's. Maybe I'd throw a recipe in there. I know. You would 1,000% go a recipe.

A recipe. Yeah. Probably my daughter's favorite recipe. Oh, that's really amazing. Like, things of us on like our... Oh, I'm like friends. Oh, me. I would do my other friends.

Yeah. Like, you know, like closest friends, family. Yeah. Sunshine beach. Sunshine. Sunshine beach? Yeah, just like the, you know those memories that stick out when you crave? She has a montage in her head.

You already have you already saw it, haven't you? Yeah. It's like a big plate of Mexican food. Oh, yeah. You know, yeah. Yeah. Like all the hits. Food's important.

Sounds good. All the hits. Wait, what song would you put it to? Ooh. We're going to have music. Because that lasts forever. Yeah. I would do either bye bye bye bye baby.

Oh. Bye, my God, that song. Yeah. It's in love actually, which is a bit annoying. Because I would be like, well, everyone's going to think I've done this because of low actually. No, it's such a good song. Or I would do, if not for you, by George Harrison.

Oh, if not for you. Oh, you have a voice. Not right now. Yeah, you sing. Do it. Do it. Doing. Yeah.

But it would probably be that one. I love that. My sisters would, my mom for my sisters would be always be my baby of Mariah Carey. Aw. That's their song. That's their song. Your sister's older. Yeah.

Yeah. She's 28. She's also the best person on the. planet. That's so, I love it. Genuinely, the coolest person in the world. Oh my God, I love that. She's like teaching kids in Japan right now.

She's got this like fire red hair. She's like, yeah, I'm just teaching kids in Japan. I'm like, so much cooler than me. Teach me. You're like, I'm scaring people. She's like spreading joy and like education and I'm just traumatizing people. Yeah, this is great. Wow.

You're both. you know, bringing out feelings in people, so that's good. Yeah. There you go. Yeah. I'm so envious. And, like, I talk about this all time because my daughter is an only child. Yeah.

And I see all these relationships. And I'm hearing about your relationship. And one of her best friend is an older sister? And I'm like, oh, is she missing out on that sibling bond, you know? Yeah. I struggle with it. I mean, do you, does she have cousins and, like? Yes.

She has cousins. There's one that's her age, but they live in Canada. And then she has a baby cousin that's, like, nine months old. So, you know, it's a little. You also never know which way it's going to go. Yeah. There's plenty of siblings that don't get along. Oh, totally.

You know, it's a crapshoot. So it's like, I really say God doesn't give it with two hands. It's like, you're always treating something. Sure. So she's getting more of you. She wouldn't have any other way. Yeah. She's definitely anti-siblings.

She's anti-Zibling. Very much so. Yeah. Yeah. She's like, no, this is my world. This is my world. Yeah. just living in it.

Yes. But I love hearing that. How does she feel about what you do? My system? Yeah. Did she ever want to do it at all or she was just her own path? She's got a beautiful voice. So she's an amazing songwriter, like really, really talented.

But she had staged right and she just didn't enjoy it. She went to Brit school, which is like this like, like not performing arts, but like an artsy school in London. And so where they would perform their own songs and stuff. And she just didn't love it. She just didn't enjoy it. And she's been trying to, she's amazing, though. She taught herself her A-levels so that she could go to college at our kitchen table.

Like, she just sat and taught herself the whole syllabus, did the whole thing. So that she could go to college to university. She did it all by herself. And it was incredible to watch. Like, it was wild. I didn't even finish high school technically. Like, yeah, I did. But in like the American sense, I didn't go to it.

what we call college, which is the last two years of high school. So I've just always been kind of an awe of her in that respect. And then she fell in love with teaching. And like she's, I got to, we took the kids, her kids that she teaches to go see Frozen in the West End. Like it's like a field trip. And I got to watch her and to rack with the kids and they just love her. But to answer your question about how she feels about what I do, she's like my number one fan.

She's like the most supportive, like, and my mom is so, she talks about what each of us do completely equally, you know, like she's just as excited about what Betsy does because it's just as exciting. But, you know, my mom says this a lot. She says that people are like, oh, what's Nell doing or this and this and this and that? Because obviously I'm in the public eye a little bit and people get excited about those things. But at the end of the day, like, my mom is just so proud of my sister and I am too. because she did a lot of this on her own and off of her own back and fruition. And she's just so supportive and, like, it's just the best that you could hope for. Like, with sisters, we're very similar in age, you know, but there's nothing competitive about our relationship at all. It's just a lot of support and love and, yeah.

That's awesome. What's your sister's name? Betsy. Betsy. Betsy. What about her, Bill? So you have a very unique name. Yeah.

Yeah. It was either criminal stripper or actor. That was kind of it. But it's your birth, like you were, it's your birth given name. It's my real name, yeah, given name, yeah. Yeah. It's so cool. Where to come from?

I was going to be called Tiger when I was a kid. I love it. When I was in utero, I was going to be called Tiger because I was apparently very lively in my mother's stomach. She was like, okay. And then when I was born, I was born in my grandpa's birthday, and his name was Neil. So like to kind of honor that My name became Nell

The Girl version of Neil Tiger got moved to the middle And then Free is just my dad's last name I love it so much It's so cool Because like when I've Yeah I was like there's no way That's like your real name

It's so rad It is my real name That's super cool Yeah my parents All the credit for that one obviously Yeah Do you think I thought this this morning

When I was at Starbucks Because you know how they Obviously they call people's names Yeah Yeah And I was like wondering, and I'm like, do we, because the person looked exactly like their name. It was like, it was like, Ashley. And I was like, there couldn't have been, you're Ashley. You're an Ashley.

Like, they fucking nailed it. Did your parents nail it or did you become Ashley because that was your name? I didn't keep a comment. Right? Seriously. Yeah. I think I was wondering. And then I was thinking about other people's names and I'm like, this is so fascinating. Like, do you become, Did you become Rachel? I've never been happy about my name. Really? You say that. You've never been happy about Rachel.

I just think like who... Friends. Well, I mean, that's the best part of it. But in my mind, I'm like, how did my parents go, Rachel? Like, you know what I mean? Like, who thinks that name and is like, Rachel? Rachel. Like, it's a Rachel.

Like, who are you? That's pretty. It's like a chuck. Well, I think it's love. You know what I mean, though? But I was thinking about that, Rachel, today. And I was like, and she is a Rachel, like, from friends. There's so many great Rachel's in the world.

I'm sure they love the name. And it's not that I don't appreciate it. I just think, like, who thinks in their mind? But I can hear Jennifer Aniston as Rachel saying that. Yeah, I know what you mean. Like, that's a Rachel. Now that you've said it, you have a Rachel vibe from friends. As a fake Rachel.

You have that vibe as a fake Rachel. No real ones, just the fake one. Just the fake one. I mean, I'll take it. There are other ones that I definitely would take that from. So you think you lived into that name? I think so. I don't know.

I mean, I guess I had the edge a little bit because I was so wild in my mom's stomach that I was always going to have so much energy. The like tiger kind of fit at the time. Yeah. But like my sister, my sister's name is Betsy, and if you met her, you'll be like, oh, you're 100% of Betsy. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Yes.

And I don't know what that is. My dad's name is Max. He is 100% Max to his court. Like, he's like a rocker, like. He's a Max. He's a Max. He's a Max. Yeah.

But is there anyone you can think of that you're like, you're not a. That's not your name. Yeah. Like if you look at someone, you're like, mm-mm. What's weird, because I think that of my son, his middle name is. Wiley, Shepard Wiley, and he's the wiliest guy I've ever. Ever experience. Elliot is like mellow, my other son's like mellow-natured Elliot.

But that feels like it. It feels like him. Right. I don't know. It's too hard. Oh, no. You thought of someone. I did.

Because you know sometimes when you say a celebrity's name. Yeah, let's do it. It only sounds right if you say the full thing. Yes. Yes. Like Leonardo DiCaprio has to be Leonardo. But if you just said Leonardo. No.

No. Bit weird. Bit weird. Bit weird. Do you know what I mean? Yes. Absolutely. Absolutely.

Like Benicio del Torre. Benicio del Toro. That works. Yeah, I know, but you're not going to be like Benicio. No, he still works as the Benicio. You know who doesn't feel 100% is Sandra Bullock. It works as Sandra Bullock. Sandra.

But Sandra. Yeah. Yeah. That's a really, really good example. That's a really good example. That would name her Rachel. You would name her Rachel. She would be Rachel Bullock.

She would be Rachel Bullock. Oh, my God. We like to play. We're going to do a few fun cards with you. Okay. We want to you go first. If aliens landed on Earth, who would you recommend they talk to? Not me.

Morgan Freeman. Brilliant. Oh, my God. That's the best answer ever. That is this fucking answer. I just feel like there's no other choice. Oh, my God. I think what happened is your fear kicked in and then you just...

And then I did it. You did it. That's right. Right. Just get it done. It suddenly became very clear to me. That's how you show it to flow. Who exactly I would send them to? Yep. That's it. Would you rather sit through a Star Wars marathon or a Lord of the Rings marathon?

Lord of the Rings. All day, every day. Yep. Okay. Okay. Okay. Zombie apocalypse is coming. Fantastic. It's here, right? Okay. Which three famous people do you want on your team? Oh. We would put everybody, but then nobody would know who you're talking about. So. Like if you're like my family. you're like, oh no, no, I wouldn't, I would definitely wouldn't bring them. Yeah, they'd slow me down 100%. We're going to go hunt and bring stuff back to them.

I'll bring them back. Yeah. Okay, right. Fuck, this is really hard. I suddenly forgotten every celebrity in the world. Okay, okay, okay. I'd like some humor. Please.

Yes, along the way. I'd like to be entertained. So I think I might bring Ricky Jervais. Great, great. Just because I think you'd be funny. I also think he would die first, and I think we'd could just use him as a shield as kind of bait just in the beginning. Oh no, I was going to say Stevie Wonder for music, but now I don't think I'm thinking survival

wise. You want to survive. I don't know how much he would aid the cause. It would be a really nice soundtrack though to the... But he could sing me to sleep when I imminently die. The Rock, Dwayne the Rock Johnson. Oh my God, I was going to say the Rock. Yeah, I would bring the Rock.

That's so wild. Because he would... I think he would help in that situation. And I would also bring Jennifer Aniston, genuinely. Great. Yeah. I love her why. I just really want to hang out with her.

It's comforting. Yes. Yeah, if you're going to go down, I'd want to go down with Aniston too. Me too. Jennifer Aniston, Reiki Javis and the Rock. I think that's a perfect team. Well done. Yeah, really well done.

Thank you. Dang. While we're on Celebrity, if you had to adopt one celebrity, Who would it be? To adopt? Like a child? It could be any. They're my person now.

Doesn't have to be a child celebrity because I don't even know if I'm... No. Any celebrity. I adopt Michael B. Jordan. Oh. So random. I love it. And we're done.

Moving on. Is that? I'm not even going to ask why. Elaborate. No, we don't need to. No elaboration needed. Thank God. I'm going to get a job of that one.

What are your deal breakers in a relationship? Then they're not Michael B. Jordan. Being rude to waiters. Oh, 100%. Or family members, like their mother or something. Being rude to your mom? No, no, no, no. Yep.

Those are really, really big ones for me. That is my biggest one. Yeah, that's great. That is great. That and I guess lying? Yeah, I guess. I guess. I guess.

gaslighting. I don't love those. No, they're not, not, they're not... Also, dirty fingernails. Gross, gross, gross, gross, gross. Oh, yeah. Wash your hands, clean your fingernails. Ew.

Those would be my gaslighting and dirty fingernails. Just, you know. Just, yeah, low hanging fruit. Low hanging fruit. Yeah, also low hanging fruit would be one. What movie would depict your life? I caught that. Wait, what?

I missed it. She said also low hanging fruit. Thank you very much. That's good. What movie would depict your life? Crash. You're very quick. Very quick.

Very. I think would be that. I love it. What can you say during sex that you can also say in a drive-through window or at the drive-thru window? Come around the back. You? You're staying.

We're adopting you. We're keeping you. Yes. It was the first thing that came to my mind. You just got adopted. You're 100%. You just won everything. Yeah.

This is good. Oh, my God. Who do you think is the funniest person alive or dead? Oh, that's really hard. Oh, oh, oh, Robin Wilson. Wait. Robbie Williams. No, Robin Williams.

Robin Wilson. Robin Wilson. But Robin Wilson is a Robin Wilson. But Robin Wilson is great. I'm a. Robin Wilson Stan. Yeah, Robin Williams. Robin Williams.

I'm crumbling. Oh, no. Did you see this? I'm crumbling. Robin Wilson. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'm in love with you.

Robbie Williams. I can't. I think you have all the good cards in that. Robin Williams. This is so fun. It's so good. What do you think is taboo in our culture that really shouldn't be? Hmm.

Well, Well, this is quite sad though. I don't know. That's okay. I think, like, being honest about... About coming around the back. I think, like, this is quite... Maybe this is taboo.

I think that earlier you teach boys and girls about consent, the better. Like, you can do it in, you know, layman's terms. But, like, the earlier that that's drilled into boys and drilled into the... girls and to understanding what it is, I think we could avoid a lot of darkness if we just, you know, taught our kids early the right way to. 100% bit. And like, communicate about sex. Yeah.

And like sex education in schools is really taboo. And it's always like, especially in London, it's like very, very minimized. And they don't talk about gay sex or anything like that. It's all just like heterosexual stuff. And I think that that should be spoken about more. Yeah. Great. Not to get serious and political.

No. No. Absolutely. It's a serious question. Yeah. What is the first thing you thought about this morning? My vape. Honestly.

I couldn't find it. Sorry, my baby. You woke up like. I was like, where is it? Where is it? It's normally under my pillow and I couldn't find it. Plot twist. It was inside the pillow lining just in case anyone was worried.

I did find it. I was worried. Okay, good. I understand. I totally understand. What is your biggest penny dropper? Okay, again, weird, as I'm sure we've learned by now. Weird.

The nape of a man's neck when they have like a chain, like a very small like silver chain and the nape of a neck that gets me going. Wait, but only silver? It can be gold, but I prefer silver. You prefer silver? Let's keep it toned down, you know? Like a giant gold chain might be a bit much. If it's like a little thin gold chain, then it'd be acceptable.

Just some sort of necklace on the back of a man's net. Yeah, so specific. I've thought about it a lot. I was going to say, you thought like when it happens, you're like, game over. And also if they're funny, but mostly the neck thing. The neck thing was a chain. But mostly they could do no wrong. It's funny because it doesn't have much to do with their face.

It's just like the illusion of a handsome man. Do you know what I mean? Yes. From the back. Like the neck. I know exactly what you mean. Think about it. You'll start to notice it.

But is it like clean shit? You know what I mean? Yeah, like a skin. And I totally can visualize. A little like muscle in the shoulder blades. Yeah. Yeah. We're going to grab the back of his man.

Oh my God. That is genuinely. That's great. Would you rather watch a horror movie every night before bed or hunt ducks? I'm vegetarian. And I'm not scared of horror film. So horror movie every night. Clearly not scared of it for a film.

Yeah, I actually really enjoy them. That was genuinely. Do you? I would just do that anyway. What is the dorkiest thing about you? We already learned that. We can move on everything. What is it?

I do impressions. What? I feel good. What? Really, really, really bad impressions. And it's so dorky. Oh my God. Okay, you're going to have to.

And I used to do them on dates and wonder why they wouldn't call me. No. Stop it. I would do like Smeagle and like Cartman from South Park. Come on. You're going to have to give us one. Yeah, you have to give us some little tease. Even as I said this, I was like, I know that you're going to ask me to do it.

I'm already living in serious regret. I can do Carmen for you. This used to be my hit on dates. I would do this and I would be like, if he sticks around, he is a keeper. Seriously, you guys. Fuck you, Kenny, fucking asshole. she guys am going home it's really embarrassing because I learned how to do that

when I was younger to impress people you're impressing as deeply in the core like I can't even I can't even know any of it that's probably the dokeyest thing about me that is the most amazing thing I'm like that's the most amazing thing about you yeah that is that is it that's your thing

that's our panty dropper yeah that's our panty dropper we're done with you did it We are done here. I don't even know where to go from that. That was fucking incredible. Big finish. Oh my God.

No, you are like so beyond, beyond beyond. You've been so fucking amazing. Thank you. This has been so, so fun. Truly. So fun. That's such a good time. Anytime.

Just come over and hang out with us. I will. Will you come back? Absolutely. Absolutely. Yes. Unreal. Whenever you want me.

We want you always. We want you every time you come back to town. Yeah. I would love to. For real. The first Omen is out. Very exciting. I forgot about that.

Congratulations on your film and all of your success. Thank you. And just you're the most beautiful person ever inside and out. Thank you. Thank you for hanging with us. Thank you for helping me. This was literally the best. Lay down Sally.

Rest you in my arms. I've been waiting all night long just to talk to you. All right. I've been waiting all night long just to talk to you. What's up, guys? What's the last time you felt like that? Never. Um, what's going on, Rob?

I don't know. Not too much. I wonder when we can talk about... We can talk about it. We can talk about it. We can't talk about it until later. We went on Family Feud. Yeah, we did.

Broad ideas, represent. We did great. Honestly, I had a great time. It was fun. We can't talk about anything other than that we went on it. And made new friends. And friends. Walker Hayes and friends. He was so lovely.

And so was Shane on his team and his wife was lovely and his managers. They were good people. We had good people. Yeah. And that's really what life is about. Walker, so sweet. He has daughters around Breyer's age. We're going to get them together next time they're in L.A.

And he's going to be on the podcast. He is coming on the podcast. Yeah. Seven kids. Yes. Do you want to know what I did after Family Feud? I sure do. You know what I did.

You went home? That's it. End of story. I went home to bed. I went and got that cheesecake that you turned to me on to. Oh, yeah. Okay. The best, I'm sorry, it's the best cheesecake.

It's the best cheesecake. It's the best cheesecake. It's from Cheesecake Factory? Yes. They have a whole favorite. Your favorite. They have a whole factory. No, it's this little restaurant in a .

Oh, if I say it, everyone's going to come take the cheesecake and we're not going to have cheesecake. I don't think I should say where it is. Rob. Oh, my God. It's not even the name. Can you beep it out, Chris? It's that not the name?

We're just going to beep it out every time he says this. Yeah, that's what we're going to do. He's such a little shit sometimes. Speaking of little shit, I get to the restaurant. Yeah. Which one? And Jeff calls me while I'm at the counter and he goes, you remember last time you brought me that shit?

He's like, it wasn't enough. I think you need to get us both two pieces. And so I went, okay. So I got us four pieces of cheesecake. Yeah. We go home. I eat my cheesecake. Go to sleep the next morning.

I said, Jeff, did you eat your cheesecake? And he's like, yeah, I did. I said, both, you ate both of your pieces? He said, no, I ate one of mine. one of yours. It's the same. What he had to say he had to say he ate yours. Which man, he would still get another one.

Yeah. Is it just plain cheesecake? It is. What makes it good? I don't know. Is it plain? This neighborhood, woman in the neighborhood, makes them homemade and delivers them to this restaurant.

If you'd like to know what's so good about it, it's that the crust is, like, perfect. Really perfect, like crumbly graham cracker, like, fresh baked crust and then it's like the cheesecake and you know when cheesecake has that light layer on top of like something of like sludge yeah you know

we don't call it sludge yeah it's not an appetizing adjective we call it that little light layer of heaven so it's like light it's so good so my mom has a recipe that's similar to it and I've made it it's close but nothing compared to that

it's really special Yeah. There was something like that in Chicago. There was a little like cafe coffee shop by us in Lincoln Square. What was it called? I don't remember the name of it. But it was a pumpkin caramel cheesecake that they would make around the holidays. And it was like some lady that would make it for the cafe.

And it was delicious. And then. It sounds a little intense. And then she got like sick and they stopped making it. Rob, this is a horrible story. I know. And then I couldn't get it anymore. I see.

But that was all. The woman. I want to know what happened to her. This took a dark turn. This took a dark turn. Anyways, last time we went, I gave Breyer half of a piece of the cheesecake. Yep. Because we were sharing with Winnie and Stella.

And Breyer got really mad. She was like, Mom. It's not enough. It's not enough. It's not enough. Not enough. Guess what I gave Jeff after he ate his two pieces of cheesecake? The third piece of cheesecake.

No. What the fuck you think this is? That's what I would. I'm like, here, take all my cheesecake. No, Rachel's the one who turned it, it's on to it, and, like, she got me a piece of cheesecake, and I'd never had it. And she was like, I got to go back in and get Jeff a piece of cheesecake, because if he doesn't try it, he's going to be upset. And, like, this is for Jeff. I'm a really good sister wife. Oh, that's nice.

Yeah. I thought it was a nice compromise. He already ate two pieces. Yeah. And I went to put it in my notes to talk about to you. So I was like, I need to tell her. until that he ate one of mine and one of his. And he goes, what are you doing?

You're putting that in notes? I said, yeah. I said, well, I'd sometimes do that for the podcast. He's like, there's no other notes on that page. I guess Jeff and Natalie did talk about that at Family Feud. What did they talk about? How that they should have been honorary fourth and fifth members because all we do is talk about them on the post.

And now Jeff's had to stop listening. Do you ever get told you look like a new one? Sometimes. Who? Are you at Elijah Wood? Oh, I can see that. The eyes. And...

Who are we? I don't know. I think that's the main one. That's the main one. I see that. You've never told us that before. Especially my hair is longer. Do you ever have...

Have you ever had long hair? Longish. Like to wear? I mean, it's just shaggy. Mostly shaggy. Not like to hear. Like a bob. A lob.

Rob hasn't had a lob. Rob's got a lob. I get too annoyed with it by the time it gets to that length. I could see you like skater like flipping your hair. You know what I mean, though? Yeah, like Elliot. Who do you get told you look like? I know.

Who? Kate Middleton. All the time. All the time. Who do you get? Who do I get? I get, um, Kaya, Gripper. Oh, God.

I mean. I mean. You do. Yeah. Who do you get? That wasn't going to be your answer. No, it wasn't going to be my answer. E.D. Sedgwick, I would get when you were young.

Like 20s. Yeah. Like early 20s. Mm-hmm. I would get that. Mm-hmm. Well, early 20s, I got fucking. Oh, my God.

Wait. Like, J-Lo? What are you about to say? Kind of. Kind of. Ray Leota. Ray Leona. I thought you were going to say.

I only got that one. Well, it wasn't it? But I thought you were making like a funny story joke. No, no. Because it's so ludicrous. Dude, one time... You got ludicrous? One time I got ludicrous.

I used to get Ray Leota all the time and I got used to it because people would be like, this is going to sound so weird. And I'd be like Ray Leota, I know. I can see it. Okay, so I was in line to go to the bathroom at a club. As one does in their 20s. And Bijou-Philip's looks at me, and she's like, oh, my God. Oh, my God.

Do you know who you look like? Do you know her at this time? This is just like some stranger at the club. Random, it's a random person coming up to her. Do not know her? She's like, you look like that guy that has a movie out right now. And I was like, Raleo. And she's like, no.

Like, weirdo? And she's like, he's in that movie, Anchorman. And I'm like... Will Ferrell? I'm like, Will Ferrell? And she was like, yes, drags me in front of the line to the mirror and is like, look at yourself. Yeah, she's like, tell me you don't see it. And she starts pointing at everyone.

She's like, tell me you don't see it. And I was like, I don't see it. And the irony is I always referenced. Thought I looked like that. Yeah. I could always see Will Ferrell. I can see that a little bit, too. Shut up, Rob.

Really? Like, really owed I get. Yeah. What are you going to say? I have Will Ferrell's bottom teeth. In a jar. Under my pillow. I get it.

That's like when we just switch gears. You used to always have, you also had, I used to get, when I was young, I used to get Carmen Electra. That was when I was young. Gert. You had a twin. Remember the girl that looked like you? Oh, yeah. Yeah, I know.

What is her name? Nora. Uh-huh. Oh, yeah, Nora. Zetner. What was, she was in Brick? Mm-hmm. You guys should play sisters.

Yeah, we could totally play sisters. Yeah. Yeah. She's very sweet. I like Nora. Oh, good. Nora, oh, I've told this story before. So Nora, you know, people think we look a lot of like.

You do. And like we were both up for a part before I got the OC and everyone. And I didn't get it. And I'm like, okay, I'm not going to take it personally. It's not like, you know. And then they cast her who like looked exactly like me at the time. And I was like, wait, what? Which is a slightly better actress?

But then I got the OC because we didn't get that. So everything worked out okay. Will Ferrell. What's like the weirdest one I've ever gotten? I can't remember. What? Heat orange. What? Oh, you told me today that I looked like heat orange. I could see that actually a little bit.

Can you? Yeah. It's the eyes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Really? Yeah. You guys want to do a question? Sure. Sure. All right, my husband wants to bring some of his family to live with us. I really don't want to. How do I not ruin my marriage?

I do relate to this headline. I relate to it. You do. So my husband is a very sweet person. His dad abandoned his family when he was seven years old, so he stayed with his mom and a little sister. He grew up believing he had to be in charge of them because he's the man of the house. Sorry.

Bless you. Nowadays, we live in California, and his family lives in Latin America. money to her mom. She doesn't work, and his sister's a single mom with two kids. He also helps his sister, economically speaking. Recently, he mentioned to me he would like to do all the paperwork and bring them to live with us. His mom, sister, two nephews, and I don't want to. I told him to go ahead if he has the money to provide housing and all the necessities for them while they adjust, but that I was not going to work extra for our plans and goals to support a whole other family I didn't choose to have. One of the reasons I don't support this is because I don't believe he

has to be responsible for them anymore. Sister is a grown woman who decided to have two kids, and I'm not willing to give the peaceful life we have, we have no kids, and even go through financial difficulties because my husband feels he's still responsible for his family. Am I being too selfish? How do I tell him this is not a good idea? I already said I'm not okay with it. I told him I was afraid that it could put our relationship in danger. I think you're the only one that Yeah, you're the one with the most experience. You're the one that's the most people in your house. Here's my answer to that in a nutshell.

This is me in a nutshell. When Jeff's dad wanted to come live with us, my answer was, we have the life we have today because you had a good father. You guys. I see. Oh, no. Just touched your eyes. You should keep doing it.

Oh, shit. Spicy salsa fingers in the eyes. Did you know that that can happen other places? Yes. What other places are you referring to? Genitals, right? Well, I heard a great word for it on S&L this week, and it was called, she said, her south mouth. He was like, and they got me in my south mouth.

I was like, oh, that's good. So good. All right. So when Jeff said his dad wanted to come live with us, my answer was simple. We would not have the life we have today if it wasn't for his father. He had a good father. They gave him a good life. He got a good education.

He got a good job. If the dad's going to be alone and we need to take him, to me, that's a no-brainer. Do we want to open our house to a ton of people? Of course not. It's sacrifice. But also, if you have any belief in the blue zones, the people with three-generation families live longer, happier, healthier lives. Hmm.

Yeah. Because community, village. I love it. So that's great. Well, yeah, it's 100% circumstantial. It's circumstantial. Do they need to take in his sister and the kids? That's a bridge further than I would want to go.

Like, we have my brother right now, but it's very, it's very much circumstantial. And it's to help him get on his feet so that he can. live a great life. It's not to just be like, hey, take care of me and I'm going to have kids and take care of them too. Yeah, I would imagine in this circumstance it's bringing them, bring them to America so that they can have more of an opportunity to get on their feet, not just bring them here so they can free load. So for that, I personally would do it, but that's just me. But I would also say it's also fair to have a boundary around your living situation, if that's the case. Like, if you're in a home, that you can do that, right?

And if you can't, is there another version for the same price where you can make enough room for that so that you have a room to yourself? Because it is hard to share space with more people. Well, yeah, if you didn't sign up for that, then that's... Oh, and also, I think there's got to be an even exchange in some sense. Like, for instance, my brother's living with us. he's now working a job. If anyone needs a personal trainer, he's a beast and is a fantastic trainer

at Stronghouse Fitness in West Hollywood. We're very proud of him. He's training Elliot and Jeff now, right? He's training Elliot and Jeff, and he comes home every day from work and cleans and makes us dinner. And it's like, okay, that is an exchange for being in the home.

Like, at least we're having an equal exchange If you're not and they're just living with you, you're going to be resentful and it's going to be ugly. Why do you have that? I forgot to give it to Breyer. In your Easter basket. Oh, I was like because you thought Breyer needed that. All the Easter stuff was in here. And I forgot about this thing.

You mean the Easter bunny forgot? Yeah. Do you guys do Easter bunny? What? Do you guys do the Easter bunny? You both do the Easter bunny? You don't? No.

What do you mean? You never did? But Jesus loves Robert I know Wait No we were in Joshua Tran Easter Oh yeah I mean Calvin wanted chocolate

And asked about it But he doesn't think The Easter bunny brings in A basket of chocolate Okay so do you guys do Christmas We do Christmas So why are you acting like we're crazy Doing the Easter bunny

Did you not have any joy as a kid Easter's has got such a religious connotation to me. Not if you make it about candy. The bunny, the giant bunny that's going to sneak in your. That's what it's about for us. It's the giant bunny and they wake up to a basket and then they search for eggs. It's more of, it's fun.

Yeah. Yeah, we didn't do, we don't do that. Copy you. I mean, I like a good time. We don't have time for that kind of stuff. Do you do Valentine's Day? Wait, you didn't give him anything for Easter? No.

They don't get Easter, they don't get candy? Like a basket? of things? Nope. Vince is too young. I'm not talking. I'm talking about Cal. No, my kids got them at that age.

They got like a bunny and a book and like a, you know, little socks, whatever. They're all just peaking. I mean, my mom will send stuff. Okay. So they got like a book from her about the Easter Bunny. Hmm. They might resent you later. For no candy.

Maybe. Yeah, it's all about the candy. Well, we're also in this, like, phase with Calvin where we're trying, he's only allowed desserts on the weekends. Someone wrote us some hateful comments. About candy? About the fact that we feed our kids sugar. Oh, well, anyways. I need to do a better job.

All right, bye, thanks. Bye. Bye. That was a hate gum podcast.