Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - Never Growing Up with Owen Thiele

Episode Date: June 23, 2025

Rachel and Olivia sit down with Owen Thiele (In Your Dreams, Adults) to chat about everything from his heartwarming adoption story to celebrity crushes and connections. Owen shares fun stories about his close bond with his parents, how he met his forever partner and what it’s really like working in TV and podcasting. Watch the video episode here!Like the show? Rate Broad Ideas 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts and SpotifyThis is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Hollywood Handbook via Gumball.fm See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Hi. Do I sound like I'm locked in a tower? You sound British. You sound like Rapunzel. I am Rapunzel. I'm going to let down my hair. You guys, Owen Theaal, one of my all-time favorite conversations in people.

So fun. So fun and hilarious. And hilarious. And his do show adult is like everywhere. And he's amazing. It's huge. It's huge. Yeah.

Love him so much. Mm-hmm. Obsessed. So why don't we hear him speak because it's a gift? That's my third coffee. What? In that, yeah. Are you okay?

No. What kind of question is that? Third coffee? Yeah. Well, I've been up since. 5.30. So. Oh, you went to the gym today? Yeah. She's back. She's back. Oh, shit. Wait,

what? You're not usually, you're not usually gym, then you took a break? Well, I do it with a partner and a couple partners, so when they're gone, I don't, I'm like, oh, it's just like chill. Totally. And then when they come back, I'm like, okay. But I actually feel good today. Interesting. It's because you haven't done it. Yeah. But they're like a 6 a.m.

or 5. What is it? 5.30. They go to the gym at 5.30 in the morning. What gym? Every day. It's called Stronghouse Fitness. No, no, no. This is crazy. I know. It's unhinged. The name, by the way, is making me have shivers and chills. Yeah. It's too hard. Oh, no, it's serious. It's no fuckery going on there. It sounds like worse than Barry's boot camp.

It's better. It's probably better. But I just mean it's just as hard, probably. But you get to pick your own thing. Like, it's a gym. You don't have to like. Well, no, we go with a trainer. who's my brother. What, you're lying. No. There's a lot to the story. Your trainer is your brother.

Yeah. Extra mean on you, to you or no? Very tender. This is gorgeous. But he does push me. Like, he makes me do heavier weights than the rest of them. Really? He's like, because you can.

And I'm like, fuck, I can't I? Wow. You do heavy weight? It encourages you. Then Nicole? Yeah. Are we going on record here? I do heavier weight. Does she know that? How much, how much are you lifting? You know, I can barely lift three pounds, barely. I'm not kidding. Palates. I'm in three pounds. I look at the teacher. I say, not today. I have to put them down. Way too heavy. Way. Three pounds? We're recording, yeah.

Three pounds is insane for me. Oh, stop. Wait. The three pound? They're too hard. Soul cycle, three pounds? No, no, no, no. Soul cycle one pound. I'm a one pounder, tiny little weight. I've never done a solstic. I want to do Pilates with you. Oh, my God. I am the whole time on my phone. I'm on my phone the entire time. I'm scrolling TikTok. It's the teacher's like, why are you here? I can't do any workouts. But why do you do that with your phone? Put your phone away. It's too. Then I would be, no. Then I would be present. Then I would be present. That's your weight. Your phone is your weight. Exactly. No, but then I would realize that I'm really out of shape. And I like to go to Pilates and walk out and be like, that was amazing.

Yeah, because you're like distracted while you're doing it. And you're like, I was amazing. Exactly. And the teacher is very upset with me because I always sit first row. This is great. Which means that everyone's looking at me, but I'm not doing anything. So the teacher's like, now I have to demonstrate because you're not doing it. It's amazing. We have a great rapport.

I like it. We have a great rapport. I feel like she or he probably appreciates it. Just you being there because you're a good vibe. You are a good vibe. That's so nice that you guys say that. I don't think she appreciates it. I actually, to be totally honest,

I follow her on Instagram. She does not follow me back. It's one of those. Okay, let's talk about that. How does that feel? It feels horrendous. It feels horrible. It's the worst feeling in the world.

That happens with three people in my life, okay? Three people that I know very well don't follow me back on Instagram. My grandma doesn't follow me back. She doesn't want to see my stuff. She thinks I'm too, like, explicit or something crazy. My trainer, because my Pilates teacher because she hates me and I talk too much. And ultimately, my boyfriend's cousin. Why?

Why the cousin? What? Why? Let it out. My boyfriend's sister had a wedding and I sat next to the cousin and I like to talk. What you say? And I like to get into details. My boyfriend was wanting to have sex a few nights before and I was really not down. And so I was just telling.

I was trying to tell a comedic story. This is a normal time. I was saying like, yeah, sorry, I'm not, I don't like to have sex anymore. We've been together 10 years since I was 18 years old. You've been together for 10 years? I'm done with sex. Sorry. What's wrong with this?

Wait, hold on. I'm saying to this to the cousin. The cousin is up in arms. Where are you from or where are they from? I'm from L.A. They're from New York. They're from New Jersey. Okay, so they can talk, I mean, they can talk about sex.

They're not from the Midwest. That's what I'm saying. I thought New Jersey people loved sex. I think they do. I'm totally confused. Right? Yeah. Yeah.

Totally. Globally. Wait. Okay. So you told the story. So I told the story about how I don't like to have sex and then I guess I went into detail. I don't know. I had a few drinks.

But I like to talk about I'm very, I'm an open book. Yeah. Isn't that fun to sit next to an open book? That's why we appreciate you. Best ever. I come on here literally within two minutes. I'm spilling my deepest. No, that's what you're here for.

I think we have to do it. I want you sitting next to me at every wedding. Thank you. You're welcome. My boyfriend's cousin then. What's their name? What's their name? We're bleeping your name.

But bleep, you need to follow. Thank you. Back. Thank you. You're welcome. You're welcome. That's going to happen now. Do you know what, though?

I'm going to make a confession. Yeah. There's a few people, our sweet little Rachel doesn't follow back. What? Yeah. That's not because it's a choice. Just like one of our best friends. Like, I looked the other day because I was like, does she follow her?

See, but this is the point. Like, I don't pay attention. You know what I mean? Wait, are you not, like, present on Instagram? Me, like, are you not? present on Instagram? No, I'm totally like doom scrolling at night and bed, of course. But like I'm not paying attention to like.

Like Jennifer Vega. I'm like you don't follow Jennifer? No. For real? For real. See, I don't even know. Yeah. So, like I think you should.

Is there beef with Jennifer Vega? Zero. We love Jennifer. I'm going to follow Jennifer. Fucking everyone should. She is a vibe and a whale. Owen. Yeah.

Why is Owen Thiel following me? That don't make her to. Everyone needs to follow you, Owen. Wait, are you going to follow me right now? I will follow you right now in Jennifer Vega. I'm crying. I don't make a phone. Hold on, hold on.

And meanwhile, your best friend, Jennifer Vega, literally does not have you anywhere near her. No. Oh my God, that's so sad. Jennifer, I'm sorry. I don't know these things. See, I don't pay attention. Okay, Owen, you're next.

I can't believe you're not like, see, I'm very present about that. See, but I'm going to look you up right now and you're not going to follow me. No. You're not. I've gotten petty about it. Wait, follow me. I'll follow you back. I don't, to be honest, I follow a thousand people, which sounds like a lot.

You follow 1,314 people. Whoa. The 300, okay, I'm getting clocked. The 300 has actually been, it's been going up. Do you follow bleep? Yeah. Okay. But I might have unfollowed.

Okay. Let me look. I just followed you. Oh, I unfollowed. I unfollowed because, because. I don't even think I follow you, Kevin. I just followed you too. I don't follow.

Wait. This is huge. I don't like it when people get precious with their followers, though. Hold on. I know. I'm so excited. Wait. This is an amazing thing for me.

You know what? This was an event. This is an event. We're starting off the podcast strong. This is super strong. I feel great. We're also going to Pilates. Okay, you grew up here.

We did two. That's why I think this is happening. Where did you guys go to school? The valley. Where? In the valley. I went to Notre Dame high school. Of course.

A classic. Where'd you go? Grant. What's that? Ghetto. Wait, in the ghetto? Wait, where is that, love? Is it in North Hollywood Van Nuys?

Something like that. Tell us where you grew up. Yeah, I went to Crossroads. Oh, yeah, Crossroads. Okay. Cut that. No wonder he didn't know, Grant. Someone's privilege.

So, this show that I'm in just came out. Overcompetiting. But also adults just came out. Oh. And it's so funny because... Right. No. But I, because I just saw that that came out. It's a little overcompensating came out.

It's crazy. Anyways. Continue. I'm in both shows very... I don't know why they did that, but they very kindly asked me to be in both. Anyways, adults just came out and it's more eyes on me than ever before, aka two eyes. And suddenly, these two people are now posting on Twitter being like Owen Thiel's A Nepo Baby. What?

Why? Because I went to Crossroads and my dad, like, produced the theme song. for the office, which sounds like... What? I know. I know. Hold on. I was like, wait, maybe I am a napo baby.

Hold on. It's like, do, duh. Wait, how does it go? Wait, do it. Do it. Fuck, how does it go? Wait, hold on. The office theme song.

How does it go? Oh my God. It's such a famous theme song. It is. I know. But my dad, everyone's like, he wrote it. It's like, no, no, no, he didn't write it. He produced it.

Right. Which is great, but it's not like... That doesn't... You grew up in L.A., It doesn't really... You're so open doors for you. Right. So I, but crossroads. Wait, but what if that is like you go around like my dad? Well, I'm a tempo baby. I know. I was like, I'm going to claim that. My dad called me. He's like,

I must be way more successful than I think I am. This is great for me. I love it. But crossroads people, I think people are also hearing that I went to Crossroads. And that's like a connected school. It is. Very connected. We know this. We grew up here. We know. We know Crossroads. Do you like Crossroads kids? We know Crossroads. I am not. I think Crossroads is a very good school, but it's just known that a lot of famous people's kids go there. That's as much as I can say.

I'm one of them. Sorry. My dad produced the theme song to the office. But it actually is cool. But what explains your beautiful teeth? Oh my gosh. I need to go get on. I have to wear my invisolines.

They're all shifting right now. They're absolutely horrible. Wait, do you have you done Invisaline? I did Envisaline and then I stopped wearing them and now I have to re-wear them. I need to do Invisaline because I have Will Ferrell bottom teeth. Wait, what are Will Ferrell bottom teeth? My teeth are Wilfarl. She borrowed them from Will Ferrell.

Wait, I'm absolutely dead. Wait, I've never seen Will Ferrell's teeth. Is that crazy? Have a look. And then you'll see my teeth. There. Right there. They're crooked.

Wait. Yeah, look up Will Ferrell's teeth. Will Ferrell teeth? Is that going to come up? I need to bleach my teeth. What? You don't need to bleach your teeth. No, but I'm looking at your teeth. My teeth.

It's because I'm black. It's because I'm black. It's like the only thing that's white about me is my teeth. I'm not kidding. Oh, Will Ferrell does. have teeth. Yeah, I'm telling you. It's crazy to know that celebrities have teeth. You know what I mean? They're real teeth. They grew out of their little guns. I can't believe that. Yeah. I suddenly become like Will Ferrell stalker. I'm like, I need one of this teeth. I can give them to you. How do you think she got those?

Of course. Wait, so your boyfriend, 10 years, but he grew up in Jersey. He grew up in Jersey. So how'd you meet? I went to NYU for two weeks. It's alive. It's not a funny story. It's really sad, actually. I went for two weeks, and I needed to come home because I miss my parents so much.

Wait, seriously? Oh, my mom is mentally ill in a really fun way. And she, like, made me obsessed with her. I was like, no, she like, seriously is like, did that, what's that? Yeah. Jedi Mind Tray?

Munchausen? Yeah, that. She did that to me. She did that, except the nice version of that. She was like, you love me, you love me. And I was like, I love me. you. And then now I'm like obsessed with her. It's amazing. But we're best friends. I came home two weeks later. I was like, I can't do this. I can't live in New York without my mother. Actually,

that's a lie. I, I came back to, I dropped out, took a leave of absence, came back. Then I went back to school because my mom was like, you can do this. I'll come with you. I've never told this part. Yeah, I have a podcast that I talk about this and I've never told this part. So, but it's totally fine. I'm giving it to you guys. I'm giving it. No one cares. I'm giving this piece of information that no one cares about to you both. My mom came back with me and she lived with me in my dorm. Oh, hold on. Where did you put her?

She lived with me. Like you had your own dorm room? Yeah, I had a single. Okay. Did you get for the bed? The doctor wrote a note for me saying I bite people when I sleep so I could get my own single. It's really smart. You should do this for your kids.

Do you bite people? No. It was a made-up. thing that the doctor said. I'm friends with my pediatrician. It's a whole thing. Clearly, you're you still go to your pediatrician. Of course. Is this a crossroads thing? I'm only 28. Yeah. It's a crossroads thing.

So your mom lived in your dorm room with you. Yeah, for three weeks. On an air mattress. Yeah. I lived on the air mattress. Good. Good. Good. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Exactly. It was raised right. My mom had to come live with me in my dorm room. It was raised right. I could not escape my mother. I'm raised correct. No, so she lived with me and then I met my boyfriend. and he was straight at the time. Oh, you turned him.

He went to Parsons. Okay, so what I say. He went to Parsons. He was a girlfriend who looked like Gigi Hiddeed. She was the hottest person I've ever seen in my life. And I was like so annoyed by her face because it was pretty. And then he was like, I think I'm by. And I'm like, stepping stone, gay, feel it.

And then we hooked up and then the rest 10 years later. 10 years is a long time. A close relationship, which is crazy and gay. In gay. Crazy in gay. Which is crazy and gay. It's very uncommon. Yeah.

Super uncong. Everyone's like, everyone I know who's gay and has a long-term relationship. By the way, it's never 10 years. It's always like three years max. And that's long term. And three years usually is like, they're like, and we've been open for a year and a half and we're just experimenting now. And it's great because I come home to my partner, but then I get to have sex with

other people. And I'm like, that would be great, but I'm in a monogamous relationship. And I don't have sex. And I don't have sex. And my boyfriend is dying for sex. And I'm like, hey, we've closed it. Hey, my monogamous, remember that. So, yeah, that's my life.

Oh, my God. I love you so much. Yeah. Like, literally the best time my face already hurt. Okay. No. Okay. You meet your boyfriend.

I meet my boyfriend. He leaves his girlfriend. Thank God. Okay. And it was G. No, she's really nice. She works at Mark Jacobs. I was.

I was. I said she actually was G. G.G. Hiddie. Right. Yeah, exactly. He went to cross-stress. And then she ended up dating Zane, No, I'm doing.

It's insane. No. She really does look like Gigi-D, though. She's gorgeous. Yeah. She's gorgeous. You're gorgeous. You're all still friends.

I have so much makeup on. I did glam before this podcast. Isn't that embarrassing? Did you? Beautiful. Of course. I can't come to this podcast and not do glam. Can you talk about what you're wearing?

My pants are short and I'm wearing cleats. It's just a disaster. Are they Tom Brown? No. Okay. So my boyfriend's a stylist. Oh, okay. That's convenient.

Okay. Okay, I'm humble bragging on the pod. It's really convenient. Yeah. He's a stylist to the stars. Okay. To which stars? Yeah, to what stars?

Yeah, that was weird of me to say. A stylist to the stars. I know, I'm like his publicist. Yeah. He's a stylist to Sabrina Carpenter. Oh, geez. Never heard of her. Yeah, who is that?

And to Emma Chamberlain and Rachel Senate, Molly Gordon. Wow,zers. The list goes on. But Sabrina, I mean, that's. No, it's insane. It's insane. And they're, they found this. I mean, Sabrina has, is a genius.

She's, like, it's scary being with her because she's like, she's a, she's a mastermind. And she's the most talented person. And she just, like, has curated this image that is for, it's forever. It's like, it's Madonna. It's like, it, it, it, the, she's the next thing. You know what I mean? That we're going to remember. Yeah.

Because my daughter's 10 and they all are obsessed with Sabrina Carbiter. And so are we. And so are we. And so are we. And so are we. And so are we. And so are we. And so are we.

just spans the test of it's amazing. Anyways, my boyfriend, very, I'm very glad that he works for her and she has decided to work with him. And it's been like a year now. And he, I asked him to style me for my press tour for adults and for overcompensating. And he was like, yes, of course, I'll do this for you. It was kind of like a, you know, a charity thing for him. But he was like, yes, I'll do it. And I was like, great. And he's been putting me in short pants. that I feel like are ultimately forced Rita Carpenter. He's good. Because they're so short on me?

No, it's right. He's doing the right thing. Is he? You walked in, you have your short, cropped pants and your cleats. Yeah, but that's weird. I couldn't agree more with him. Like you walked in and you're so right on. It's a promise.

Hey, Jared, you're doing something right. Yeah. I mean, obviously. I thought like a charity pro bono case, but now I feel like he's maybe actually like really doing what? Did you give him any sex for these short pants? No. Oh, geez. No wonder his cousin doesn't follow you.

Of course. No, no. I would never do that. I'm a lady. I don't give sex for clothes. Oh, you don't barter. You don't barter. No, I don't do that.

I do. You do? For naps and stuff. Oh, totally. She does. She gives sex for nap. But do you guys get to nap? You guys are like, we have it.

No, she does. I cannot nap. But also, you have so much to do. You guys have such busy lives. How do you even find time to nap? My favorite is she, we had to go to something the other night. And she had like a tiny window. I was going to go to the house.

I get a text. I'm going to nap. She passes out. How long? I slept for an hour. Like hard for. It was so good. It was so good.

And then I was ready for the night and I had a great time. You were great. And where'd you guys go that night? We went to a dinner. Went to a fancy dinner. Do you love a fancy dinner? No, I hate leaving the house. We had fun.

We did have fun, no. We got sat next to the right person. I'm sober. And I just don't drink. And this is beautiful. I just, yeah. Yeah. I hate asking a question like that that just completely dies.

You know what I mean? We're like, why did I kill the vibe with that question? And like a dark alcoholic, but, you know. And I hear you. And I absolutely hear you. My dad's sober for 30 years and I. Is he? He is.

That's awesome. Are your parents together? Yeah. People usually aren't casually stumbling upon that. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. And he's, is my mom what?

No, I said, are they still together? They are. I thought you were saying, is my mom an alcoholic. And I was like, yes, she actually is. I'm very scared. She drinks a lot. But it's normal, I think. But it is getting to the point where I'm like, she's like, I'm having my second martini.

I'm like, it's 4 p.m. It's four. Yeah. What's going on here? They're still together, happily married. Are you the only child? Mm-hmm. Wow.

But it's a whole thing. That's why. We want it. No, I know. Tell us. No, it's a whole entire thing you don't want. Yeah, why. Really bad.

Why don't we want it? I was adopted at birth from Houston, Texas, shipped out to L.A. You poor little baby. Shipped in a box. No, I was brought to L.A. But it's very interesting. My parents are very musical in this business. And then I in Houston was going to be raised, if I wasn't adopted, into a very religious, conservative family.

And it's like something very kismet about me growing up here and being the way I am and my parents being like so accepting of me. It's just a crazy story to think of like where I could have been like on a tractor. You know what I mean? Like, the apps I'm looking at. You know what I mean? And instead, my mom's like, are you on Grindr? You know, like, that's the life I have. You know?

It's like, it's really amazing. Wow. That's amazing. You were already, like, set up with a family in Texas? So, how old? How did that happen? So my birth mom had me when she was very young. This is a crazy story.

Do you like that we just get into? Well, I'm like, I'm like, literally, hi, by the way. I'm such fans. I'm both of you and now I'm sitting on this podcast talking about my birth story. My birth father was a preacher. Wow.

And my birth mom I think the story basically is that she had an affair with the preacher. And then they had to give me up because I was this baby that shouldn't... Out of wedlock or whatever.

Totally. I'm the son of her person. preacher man ultimately. So they said, okay, ship them off to Los Angeles. And my mom and dad, my birth mom, I think, didn't really know who she wanted to adopt the baby. I think she at first maybe wanted somebody even in Texas to have a relationship with. But then such a sweet story. My mom, my birth mom called my parents and on my parents voice machine was my mom laughing because my dad was like tickling her. And my mom was like, leave a message. And my birth mom was like, this is what I want for my care.

I want her to be around laughter and love. Stop. I want you guys to be the parents. Isn't that crazy story? Do you have a relationship with your birth model? I don't. Have you met her? No, I haven't.

But I'm not opposed to it. Like, was it an open adoption where she could have a relationship with you? It was closed, but it wasn't, it was closed because that's what it was legally. Got it. But it was always, my parents are like, yeah, whatever. My mom's like, reach out. Call her. Like, what's her number? She's like, I'll give it to you. Like, that's my mom as a person. And so, and I think my birth mom was receptive of that. And, and I think, like, if I did reach out, I think she'd, she would be fine with that. But I just haven't. I'm like, it's a lot. That's so beautiful. Being black, gay and Jewish. I'm like, I need to, like, settle into myself first. Do you know what I mean? I'm like, I'm like, I'm a lot of things right now. I'm like, I check off a lot of boxes. Which way am I going to rub up against you?

Exactly. Exactly. So I'm like, I need to really be solid. with myself to then go back and meet her. Because what if she doesn't like a certain part of me, you know? Well, I mean, it's, yeah, it's just, it's just really fascinating. Totally. You know, the whole thing. But to be put in the family that you were. Isn't that crazy?

I mean, your dad produced the office theme song. Well, exactly. And that's why I'm so lucky that he's my father. Yeah. I'm calling Ted Sarandos every day. You know what I mean? No, it's really, it's really amazing. And it feels, it feels, it's like you believe, you believe in things.

You start to believe in things when you hear this kind of thing. You know what I mean? Like I grew up, my mom's a singer, beautiful singer, my dad's musician. I grew up singing. I was like, what is it? Like, is that nature? Is this nurture? Is it like, it's just weird.

Well, it's destiny. Totally. It's sometimes people are just the vehicles in which you come into the earth. but you found your people. Yeah. Or they found you how it. I mean, the fact that it happened through a laugh gives me the chills. No, I know.

I can't deal with that. And now I'm doing comedy. It's like, there's like weird shit. Life is fucking. Life is weird. It's fucked up. It's fucked up. It's so fucked up and weird.

I know. I know. But like I feel in my heart, your biological mom was a good human because she went with her intuition. Totally. You're like, that's my kind of person. Totally. I agree. My birth mom, my biological mother, okay, so my mom walked into a diner. Crazy story. She walks into a diner. My mom's going to be like, why did you tell this? I'm like, what the hell are, what are you on? Anyways, my mom walks into a diner and meets my birth mom for the first time. Okay. And she walks in and she hears my birth mom say, can I just have some more French fries? And my mom's like, oh my God, I hope that's my, I hope that's her. You know what I mean? Like, this already a vibe. Like, I love this. And my first. And my first. words, the first words I said, were more fries. Isn't that crazy?

Like, there's weird shit. No, okay. I do have chills. I'm telling you, it's weird. Things are weird. Things are really weird. And how does that talk about the origin story being from a preacher to then being Jewish and where do your beliefs lie and all that?

I just believe someone's up there. That's a beautiful question. I believe someone's up with her. I'm like, I dropped out of Hebrew school. I got kicked out actually. Of course, classic. Got kicked out for gossiping, of course, talking too much. I wish I went to high school with you.

So bad. No, you don't. Badly. I don't wish I went to crossroads, but I wish I went to high school with you. And you don't, because let me tell you something. I was cheating off people's tests, but doing it in a really obvious way where the teacher would be like, Owen, I see you, but I'm going to let it slide. I'd be like, thank you so much. I was just like, I've always been this person.

Yeah. I love it. At two years old, I was like this, which is crazy. Anyways, I dropped out of Hebrew school, it was kicked out. So I never really like dove into religion. But for me, it's more about like culturally being with family and, you know, Shabbat, when we do it, if we do it, rarely. It's just about like hanging out with my huge extended family that is so massive and whose names I sometimes forget. You know?

That's how big it is. My mom has like 10 brothers and sisters. They each have three kids. It's like a disaster. And are they all here? Yeah. Whoa. Wow.

They all live here. Except one of my cousins just moved to New York and we did like literally a seance. We like all sat around and like sobbed. We like goodbye Hannah. I was like, I'm like, where am I? What family is this? Yeah. I've wondered that about my biological family.

Totally. Totally. How did I get dropped off here? Right? What are you guys practicing, studying, loving? Are you diving into anything? You can take it first. I mean, I don't practice a religion, but I love religion.

Totally. Like, I've dabbled in a bunch, like little dabbleds of studying all different ones. Dabbled. And what I do now is, like you said, there's something. Totally. And so to me, it's about, like, surrendering to that something every day. Completely. It's spiritual.

Yeah. Completely. Is that how you feel? Yeah. Oh, for sure. I mean, I was, my mom grew up Catholic. My dad's Jewish. But my mom totally straight away and was very, is very spiritual. And so we kind of were guided in that way. And my dad, like, he's not really, like, yeah, we have to go to a Hanukkah party. You're like, he loves Christmas. You know, it's just for the celebration. So we're not. My parents will celebrate Christmas because my mom's obsessed with getting gifts. So she's like, Christmas is our holiday too. I'm like, no, you're just a narcissist.

Hey, mom, wake up. She just wants presents. She just wants presents under the tree. Oh, I'm obsessed. You would love her. Yeah. She's your next guest on the pod. How did she hook you?

Because we're moms. I want to hook. I said this yesterday to my husband. I said, please explain to me what is wrong with a stay-at-home child. A stay-at-home child? I love this. Yeah. I love this.

And he's like, because you want to teach him independence. you want this and I said, why? If, why? So why can't I keep them as long as humanly possible? I completely agree. I have a show that I'm developing that probably probably will never see the light of day, but let's not, let's knock on wood and hope it does. It's happening.

Yeah. I sold it to Amazon. It's about, it's called off color. It's about me joining this or being in this white family off color. I'm off color, but also I say off color things, aka my boyfriend's cousin who hates me. Anyways, it's about how I will, I essentially refuse to grow up and how I, like, would live with my parents for the rest of my life. Do you? No.

I live with my boyfriend. Okay. But there's a guest room that my mom sleeps in. How awesome? When my, when my boyfriend's away, I get, I get a little scared. So she comes and stays with you? It's very nice. But is she close to your boyfriend?

Are they close? They're really close. They're like, it's like disgusting. It's like stop texting. But I don't see why what's up, like, why do we have to separate? I actually completely agree. I'm also like, I've learned so many valuable things from my mother. I'm like, don't I want that?

What if she learns new stuff? I want that. Right. Can't we ride this out until we're ready to move on? Exactly. Exactly. Completely. As long as someone has responsibility and something that they're, you know, contributing

in some sort of way. I'm like, let's live together. How old are your kids? Mine's 10. 10's a great age. Great. Love it. We're very happy right now. Great age. Yeah. I have six and nine. Six tough. Six is tough. Yeah, but he's a different kind of six. Wait, what? Yeah. Well, he's just different. He's on, you know, a different track in life. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I like it. It's like having a three-year-old. He's like the swaggerest, coolest. Wait, this is amazing. person to enter any room ever. That's amazing. We feel like we should have Shepard on.

That would be amazing. That would be amazing. That's amazing. I don't, I remember being six. I remember being 10. I don't, like, remember it. But I have, like, pictures from the time. Like, I remember it in time. Yeah.

Nine, there are some ages where I'm like, where was that? You didn't take one picture of me. I'm like, did I exist? Like, nine was one of those years. I was like, I don't know what, like, grade is that? It's third. It's an invisible year, isn't it? It's just kind of like third.

I don't even remember that. It's not 10. 10 is like your double digits. You have arrived. 10 was a big year for me. Yeah. I was wearing a lot of bandanas. Oh, not the bandana.

A lot of bandanas. Kind of stacked, actually. Who were your first? Multifold bandanas? Oh, yeah. We're going to need a picture. Oh, I was really stylish. Wait, who were your first crushes?

And like, well, I wasn't gay. I was always gay, obviously. No, I chose this. No. Sorry. Sorry. Sorry. Um, sorry.

Um, after choosing being gay, I'm, no. No. I, um, I, I, I had a crush on this girl named Emma Daly. Okay. For like, shout out to Emma. No, shout out, Emma. I love you. Um, we were very young and very in love.

She definitely knew I was gay, but she was, like, trying to be nice. But she, I don't think she knew what gay was. Right. just was like, you're a girl like me. Yeah. And I was like, I don't know what that means. But then eventually I realized it was just that we both had the same interests. Yeah.

Men. Men and devil wears Prada. And those are two things that we love. No, we, we really, really, really loved having a crush. I remember like being young and having a crush. It was so much fun. Like where there's like a movie you would watch and like be obsessed with. Yeah, like who was the first person that got you?

Oh my God, by your face, I feel like you're going to say Zach Ephron. What? How'd you know that? I was kidding. Was it? Wait, how'd you know that? Wait, are you being serious? I swear on my life.

Oh my God, I swear to God. What? We're connected. Wait, how did you know that? We're connected. You're a fucking connected. You swear to God. I swear to God.

I swear to my life, you can look up. Oh my God, I just channeled it and picked it up. Oh, I just looked up. I went to, and my thing is literally Will Ferrell's teeth. It's like every, is everything okay? Wait, Owen. Thiel Zach Effron. Okay, I'm looking out myself.

Sorry, I do this. Sorry. Look. Oh, and I just... Ready? Ready? Ready for this video? Are you ready?

Sorry. Okay, wait. Hold on. Stop it. I said he bounced a ball and he sang. So true. It's the hottest thing I've ever seen. It was my gay awakening.

Oh, my God. That was my full awakening. Do you feel like we're soulmate? No, no. I don't know what's going on with... But there's like something going on here. I think you're my sister from Texas. You might be black.

Wake up. Wake up, Rachel. I want you to wake up and really see it. Look in the mirror, babe. I'm not kidding. Your makeup's too light. You're black. Whoa.

We're connected. Wait, that's crazy. How did you feel that, though? How did I feel that? Is that like a lot of people's gay awakening? No. I've never heard it. I've never, I'm sure it exists.

Me trying to be unique. I've never heard that. I'm sure, I'm sure, but I've never, like. It's a different age for us. I just, it was something. No, Zach Efron was huge for me. Right. Huge.

That's crazy. So you watched high school musical and you were like, yes. Yeah. That's when I really knew I was gay. I was like ups. I became ups. I remember watching the second one, second high school musical and sobbing. And my parents were like, why?

Are you sobbing? And I was like, I'm so proud of them. Like they're graduating or whatever. But really it was because I was in love with Zach Efron. Oh, and it hurt. Wow. It hurt. First love hurts. It hurts.

Have you met Zach Efron? No, never. She's all happy fucks. Have you fucked Zach Ephron? I would love to do that. I would literally die for that. Oh my God. Is he gay at all?

Queer? I don't know. Bye? Not that I know. Everyone will do anything. Can I just be honest? Like, wake up. Anyone will do anything nowadays.

We all do it all. No, he's probably definitely straight and actually don't clip that because he's going to be very upset with me for saying that and block me. He'll be one of the people that don't follow me back. I love him. I'm obsessed with him. He's amazing. Still, to this day. Like, that has been a through line.

Yeah. Who else? I mean, we like celebrity crushes. Yeah, it's our favorite game. We like a game. Who are yours? Zach Efron. No, I'm just kidding.

No, not at all. You don't like him. It's hard because ours were like back in the day. He was younger. We're old now. So like it's not relatable. Yeah, like our first crushes were like Patrick Swayzy. Do you even know who that is?

Of course. Dirty dancing. Yeah. Come on. Of course, with Jennifer Gray. Gray. Yeah. Look at you trying to point.

He was so hot. Just that movie. So hot. So hot. I've seen clips. You've not seen the movie. You've never watched it. No.

Okay. Here's the deal, though. You have homework. No, no, no. I know. I don't watch. I'm really, really bad about sitting down and watching something. Which I shouldn't say, actually.

Because I make things. I think you should watch that one. No, totally. And that's something I'm. Kid, what were your movies? Like, you would watch that. I watched like That So Raven. Yeah.

That was a great show. I loved to That So Raven. She did so much for the black, queer, psychic community. Love a girl out there for the psychic community. She touched all of our souls with the psychic ability that she had. I loved that show. Me too. I don't remember what movies.

You know what I loved when I was a kid? Is the old Pink Panther, like Peter Sellers. Oh, like, wow. Actually. Oh, you have parents that watched that kind of stuff. You have like real adults that raised you. Yeah.

Yeah. No, I raised myself. Oh, wow. Two years old. No, yeah, they loved it so they would show it to me and then I just fell in love with that. Yeah. Which actually, I'm like connecting the dots.

I'm like maybe that's why I like comedy is because of that. That'll get in there. Yeah, if you started watching that at a young age. This is great. We're just giving a whole. Are your parents? I know. I'm like, whoa.

I'm going to walk out of here and call my birth mom. I'm like, we should take the cameras and just go. You know what I mean? I will say. Let's fucking do it.

My mom gave a baby up for adoption. She did? Yeah, and I found him and he's part of her life now and they're really close. And he's still really close with his mom who raised him. I'm scared about my mom.

Yeah. If I ever did that. I know. He was too. We are so close that it's like, I don't know. It's going to happen. It's,

For them, it's not the same. Yeah. Like, she doesn't take the place of his mom. Totally. But they're like, best friends know. That's so sweet. I know. But it doesn't always happen that way.

Totally. Totally. You know. We'll freaking see. Let's call her now. Wait, I want to know more about, yeah, exactly. Let's just get her on speed down. Let's just get her on speed down.

What, what, I want to know more about celebrity crushes. Yo, it's fine. Do you have any gossip for me? I want, like, gossip about celebrity. See, that's why you got kicked out of Hebrew school. See? Yeah, I know. We love it.

We love it. We love gossip for you. I don't have gossip. You're in the, like, you're in the youth of it all. You're 28. Yeah. You, listen. Your skin is glowing.

It's makeup. It's makeup and road, ultimately. No. It is. It's makeup and glazing milk. There you go. There it is. And that's the truth.

I don't have gossip. She just sold her company for a billion dollars. Can you believe? Yeah, I'm so. I've never been more proud of someone, which is insane. It's like, why am I proud of someone who sold? A billion dollar company. It's like, you can't be proud of, it's like being proud of Taylor Swift.

I'm kind of proud of Taylor Swift. I am so proud of Taylor Swift, but it's like very weird to be proud of someone who's selling out nine shows. But how weird is it? She has to buy all of her own music back for $360,000. Why'd she have to do that? Because Scooter Braun. Scooter Braun bought it.

What happened? I don't know. Scooter Braun bought it. Okay. But how can he buy it? It's weird. It's whatever. I don't understand any of that.

It makes no sense. He bought it. But she then did this really brilliant thing where she was like... Taylor's version. Taylor's version. You know Taylor's version. Yes. So then she made her own...

She was like, fuck, if you... I'll just re-record it all. And then she was going to do reputation. And I read her letter, of course. I'm such a... You did? Okay, good. Please tell me.

I read her letter. I need to know. My daughter... And she was basically like, it's... It was a really tough time for me, reputation. It's a really specific time for me. And I had the money to buy it back. And I didn't really want to, like, go into my psyche and, like, have to re-record this album that might be, like, strange.

I want that to just be what it is. And so I just bought it back. So that her not going back was worth $360 million of her money. It's amazing. Damn, too. So I have a question. I'm not doing that. If I ever bought it.

That's like how I feel when I door dash. Wait, what do you mean? I'm just like, I could go get it. Right. Yes, yes. $17. I have it. I am dead.

Of course. You're like, the added fees are worth it. Exactly. You're like, I'll do priority this time. This time. Just for now. She, I have a question. How much money must she have if she spent $360 million?

I think she has. She has, I think she's probably a couple billion. Do you think that she can make that money back really easily? Yes. This is crazy, isn't this? Well, it's all fluid at that point, right? And she's, like, the biggest, right? Of course.

And she's, do you, are you guys Swifty? I'm a huge Swifty. I think she's the most talented person on the face of the earth. She is also, like, incredibly nice. She's the best person. She's like a good person. She's wonderful. I'm proud of her.

My God, I'm proud of her. I am proud of her. I took her to the Ares tour. Was it more for me? I mean, I've met her before, and she's super nice. Very nice. And tall. I'm not, I, I, she's so tall.

Isn't that odd? So you're friends with her. Just be honest. No, I would love, like, I wish I was friends with her. We, you know, like, we, we met and, like, totally, she was, well, she's a fan of yours. And you're a fan of her? This is gorgeous.

I'm just being honest. No, no, no. I like, she. You both are fans of each other. This is great. No, oh my God. This is great. You feel good about it.

I feel great about this. As it should be, I wish. She doesn't follow me back. I'm just kidding. Oh, I'm, no. Do you follow her? Actually, I don't even know if I follow Taylor. See, that's another one.

I have to follow her. I don't. Let's see. I don't see. I can see if you can get that follow back. Come on, girl. No, she doesn't follow anyone. Oh, she doesn't?

I don't love that. I don't love it. Because why? Like, how's she going to pick and choose? You just follow everyone you know and you don't follow people you don't know or if you met them, you follow them. But what about like the preciousness? Like I think it's more about safety, actually. Oh, is it?

But why? That's what my friend Emma Chamberlain, who's, I don't know if you know her, she's amazing. She's one of my best friends in the world and she doesn't follow anyone. and I'm always so offended because I'm like, if you followed me, I'd get more followers. Yeah.

Just follow me. I can be your one follower. And she's like, no, it's about safety. Like, what, how? Like 20 million people follow her, let's say, right? It's too many people.

It's so many people. And people are weird. And like, if she follows me, she's going to want to follow her dad and her mom. And then if her mom posts, like, it's just,

like, it's just scary. I understand a little bit. Like, I never follow, like, my kids' schools. Totally. Like, it's just, I understand a little bit of that. But I also think social media, if she's, like, Taylor Switch, if she's not following anybody, I also feel like she's supporting, like, it's, I get what it's for.

It's for my business. But she's not crossing it over to, like, that personal place. Exactly. And I think that's smart. Exactly. Well, her Instagram is her business. Right. It's just business.

But you guys have, your Instagram is your business. Yes. Here's where I get confused. I love this. I just get confused on the psychology of it where it is your business. So there's plenty of people who do that and they follow no one. Yet you're profiting off of everybody following you. So wouldn't it be generous?

Totally. To follow some people back. Because what that could potentially do for their life could be huge. Well, Emma does this really nice thing Where she does like check-ins So like every week I like that you're defending I know Emma

We follow No she she does this thing where she every week She goes onto my Instagram From her Instagram even though she doesn't follow me And she'll like like and comment and like support Even though she doesn't It's so nice It's so nice

So it's like still like Thank God I got the comment I got the comment Yeah yeah yeah Him and George Would have a few of a thing He's like our brother. Yeah, he's our brother.

Who is he? Who is he? Who is he? Is he hot? His name is George Griffin. He's a bear. Do you know what bears are? In gay?

Yes. I know what bears are, love. I know. Okay, I don't know. A lot of people don't. No, I do. I'm gay. I didn't know if all gay people know everything.

We know it all. We know it. We know. Well, I didn't know what it was. So he's a bear. He's a bear. Yeah, George Griffin. Look him up.

It sounds like a bear. Yeah. Look him up. You guys would totally, like, you would. Wait, wait. What's, wait. What's, wait, why? What's he like?

What's he like? Tell me what he's like. He's just a really good time. He's really about having fun and positive energy and he's there for the tea. He'll always like, um, I just posted a story. Why have you not looked at it? Why have you not commented? Like in a funny way.

A hundred percent. Yeah. That's me. Yeah. Yeah. But be like, fuck with my story. Like, where are you? Did you get kidnapped?

Are you dead? Like, are you alive? What the fuck? Totally. Fuck with my story. I'm going to start saying that. Fuck with my story. That's what he'll say.

I love George. Okay, is George seeing anyone? I'm in a relationship. He's married. Totally, totally, totally. Yeah. So this would be a friendship. It's fun.

I just want to be set up. Even though I've avoided friends. No. I want people to think of me sexually. Yeah. I want my grandkids to think of me sexually. That's a line from this show, this adult show. And it's been stuck in my head for so long.

And now I'm so good. You got to use it. I just got to use it. Call back. No, but I really do. I want to be like set up. I want people to not know him in a relationship and set me up. And then what do you do?

You just want to see who they would put you with? I just want to see who they would put me with. I wouldn't sexually put you with George. And I hear that. Yeah, because he likes a John Goodman type. Does he like actors? No. Oh, he just like the John Goodman type.

Type. He looks like a sitcom dad type. How beautiful. Yeah. Who doesn't like that? But I don't like that sex. I don't like it. I don't like it.

I don't like it. Maybe you. Yeah, not for me sexually. but I do like that as a as a dad. I want to know what your boyfriend looks like. Yeah, me too. He's so sweet looking. He's, but he, okay, this is mean.

He's not my type. Okay, that's crazy to say. What's his name? Jared Elner. I need to see him. This feels more like. He's like, looks two years, like two years old. Wait, not what I would.

Wait, let me see. Yeah, but that looks like cute, but not what I was pictured. I hope to see. He looks like two years old. I know. He's 28. No, no, no. I need to show you like pics.

So cute. Let me see. Yeah, that's him. Oh, shit. That's our type. Yeah, he's hot. Oh, you have a very hot boyfriend. Oh, he's gorgeous.

He's hot. You guys are a beautiful guy, but he's Jewish. You're a beautiful. What a sweet face. He has the best face. He is so sweet. He is so cute. He does, right?

Yeah. I mean, he's very, very attractive. He's very attractive. But usually I, like, if I were going out on the scene, I would be attracted. No. Okay. What would you go for? Cast your person. Yes.

Oh, this is so fun. I know. So, like, if I were going to cast him, let's say I was making a show. Okay. Let's say I was making a television show and I was going to cast Jared. I would want, like, Logan Lerman. Do you know what I mean? Because that's the same type of.

Oh, my God. This is like the John Goodman. Yes, it is. It's a generation. By the way, this is our John Goodman. This is our generation's John. What's his name? Logan Lerman.

Logan. when you look him up. He's so hot. This is who I'm casting as Jared. As Jared. Oh. Let me see. Do you see him?

Interesting. Okay, you don't think. Do you know who that is? No. What's he from? He looks like Shia LaBuff. He does? Wait, let me see what pick you're choosing.

He kind of looks like Kevin. Wait, okay, you guys. This is Kevin? No, okay. Okay, okay. This is a weird picture. This is a weird picture. This?

This guy? That's like what I would, like, I would cast like, this as Jared. Okay? You know what I'm saying? Yeah. Do you see the vibe? All right.

You don't see it. A little bit. A little bit. I think Logan's so hot. No offense to Logan who I know is listening. No, Logan, we love you. Logan. Follow us back.

We need you in our life, baby. No, Logan's lovely. Anyways, I would cast that. But I as Jared, but if I were picking like a new type, who am I like really? attracted to. Yeah. Zach Efron.

Zach Efron's a great one. But Zach Erron is still in that vibe. No, yeah. We want something different. Cast somebody else. Like your type. If you were like, okay. Yeah.

Here it is. You're casting your ultimate love interests. Well, my like, fun. Oh, fuck. This is hard. Because you have to understand. Like, he is short. Jared's shorter.

Jared, I love you. He's short. He's short. How tall? Short. He's like, he's short. Short-ter. Do you have a number?

I'm 6-4. You're tall. You're so tall. You're so tall. I know. Is that crazy? What do you feel about that? Love it.

Great. Favorite thing. We think it's. You're welcome. Outstanding. Thank you. And thank you. And that's all I need to clip that.

And send it to me, just for my personal record. I, Jared's really short, and I usually go for taller people. Okay. So, like, I don't know who's tall that, like, Sean Mendez, but he's straight. Well, that doesn't stop you before. We don't care if they're straight. And you're right. Yeah.

But everyone thinks Sean Mendez is gay, so I feel bad saying that. Oh, do they? That doesn't mean you can't think he's attractive. I mean, I hope. Yeah. But no, I don't think he's gay. Okay. But he's very tall?

Yeah. Okay. How tall? Like 6'4. Okay. I didn't know that. But that's what I want. I need someone.

I have a full relationship. But I would want someone tall. Okay. Because I'm so tall. Are you guys in it for life? Yeah. I'm going to get married. It's a whole thing.

Oh, my God. I'm exhausted of it, though. I'm like, this is crazy. Like, I've been with this person since I was 18 years old. Yeah, that's really young. Your frontal lobe wasn't developed when you chose him. I know, is not crazy? Literally wasn't developed.

I think he's regretting it, but he can't do anything about it. It stuck with me. But he was at a little too. We do. It's really sweet. It's really sweet. And I would probably definitely choose Sean Mendez. No, I really, I love it.

Oh, my God. I really would. are just my favorite I'm obsessed does he get jealous because you're an actor he doesn't have so in adults

yeah um uh okay so in adults there's this new it's crazy being in a show that so I just walked in and Caitlin ultimately

was telling me that adults is like all over her timeline and she's like seeing and I'm like this is crazy and why it's all over everyone's timeline is because spoiler alert there's like this

love interest between me and this man in it. And the man is my roommate. It's like about five best friends who all live in a house together and two of us kind of fall in love. But the one that I fall in love with is my best friend's boyfriend in the show. So it's this spicy kind of thing. Oh, wait. I needed a show to download for my plane ride tomorrow.

So I'm downloading that. Download adults. Download adults. And wait, where was I going with this? Oh, so I had to kind of fall in love with this sweet man named Jack Inanin, who plays Paul Baker on adults, and I was like in the thick of it, and I was texting Jared being like,

Jack is so sweet, and really like in my head being like, maybe I am in love with this guy. Right, like, yeah. I was just trying. I was method acting. Sorry that I'm method acting. For a comedy, 20 minute comedy.

I'm literally like. I'm still living in it, okay? Exactly, yeah. I'm Austin, Butler and Elvis. But in a comedy, so dark. It's really dark. Austin Butler is a good one.

Hot. Hot. What? I don't know. Did you watch Elvis? No. He's really good at it. I didn't either, but hot.

Hot. Very. Anyways, Jared was texting me back. I thought Jared would be like, Owen, like, don't do this or whatever. And Jared was like, he's so dreamy. Like, have fun. I was like, this was crazy. He's not jealous at all.

He does not get jealous. And does it bother? It bothers you. It's just weird. Yeah. Do you get you all this? No, I don't care either. So then it's not weird.

I don't care either. I don't care. Because we've been together for 10. We're so committed. You grew up together. We're also so communicative. Like usually people wouldn't say like, oh, Jack's hot. You know what I mean?

But I'm going to say that. Yeah. Jack's hot. You everyone thinks of it. Well, because you can see it and people know. Totally. So why lie? Right.

And you're two men. Totally. You're going to know who. who's attractive to each other. Exactly. So there's no point in lying. Exactly. Do you guys get jealous?

Sure. Yeah. But are you like the jealous type? No. No. I would not call myself the jealous type. I hear you. No. I only get jealous and fantasies.

As I've gotten older, it's like less jealous too. Or like I want to be jealous. You know what I mean? Totally. Because like you kind of just don't care anymore. And you're like, that might be fun. It might be fun to be jealous. You know?

It also like might, like, I wish that was it. I wish I was like, stalking the person that my boyfriend's texting and like, you know, like going to her house and like, you know, like, I wish that was just for fun. But like, it's just not in me. That's what I mean. I only get jealous in a fantasy. Totally. It's so no. I'm like, I have looked at his phone and it's like Sabrina Carpenter. I'm like, what? I'm going to stalk Sabrina Carpenter. She has enough of those, love. She has enough stalkers. I don't need to stalk her. No, I just don't, it's not in. I wish it was though sometimes. Yeah, I get that.

Some of my friends are really, really jealous, like scary jealous. What do you think that's about? I don't know. Well, whenever someone's really jealous, I'm like maybe they're right, though. That's what I think. I'm like maybe there's something going on that you're feeling. It is. Especially women.

It's women's intuition. Yes. I have had intuition and always been right on. Totally. Yeah. Like, I usually trust it. I'm like, there's something going on there. Yep.

We're always right, right? Yeah. Always. But I did talk about this yesterday to one of our best friends. who was like Jennifer Vega. Jennifer Vega. I was like, well, of course.

What? Like, am I going to be like the dateline episode where I'm like, I really didn't think anything was going on, you know? Totally. There's no chance. Zero. Because I don't feel like jealous or weird. And then I'm like, am I going to be the one that's like.

I had no. He has a whole other family. Yeah. Yeah, another family. Is he like that at all? No, not even happen out. Am I being honest with myself? Totally.

You got to check in. Well, my boyfriend's a triple. Scorpio. Gemini. Oh. So everyone who meets him is like, he's lovely. He's so sweet. Oh, my God.

I want to put him in my pocket. He's so amazing. Oh, and you have to stay with him. And then they're like, what sign is he? And I'm like, Gemini, triple Gemini. And they're like, stay away from him. Except him. Yeah.

And I haven't seen, everyone's like he's double. He's two faces. Like, Gemini's are two-faced. No. I don't see that for him. I mean, he is like work and play. I've seen both versions. Yeah.

Of a Gemini? My brother's a Gemini. And then I've dated. So it's Jennifer Vega. So really? It's Jennifer Vega. Gemini? And that's why you don't follow her.

Yeah. And so there's like me. Exactly. But yeah, I've seen like versions. And, wait, you dated a Gemini. I've dated like a few Gemini's, yeah. Wait, you're obsessed with Gemini. I only date Gemini.

Wait, really? No. Not at all. But I'm just saying like my brother is nothing like any of the people that I've dated. No. Yeah. Your brother is amazing. Yeah, he's really funny.

And wow, he is? Yeah. Comedian? No. Or just like funny great? He's just funny. Oh, funny La La Laugh. He could have been a comedian.

I think he missed his calling. Like, I think he wishes. How old is he? He's, that's a great. He's 46. Straight? Seven. Yes.

Forty-seven. Married? Yes. Great life. Kid? Yes. Delish. She's turning too.

She's amazing. What area living in? The valley. Delish. It's hot there. It is. It is hot there. It is hot.

But the Air One's the best there. Isn't it perfect? It's the best. Does it give you endorphins just walking in? It's my most favorite place. Me too. It brings me. Guess who else's favorite place?

Jennifer Vega. No, George Griffin. Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm meeting all your friends. Yeah, yeah, this is great. Of all besties. I love Air One. I do.

Love. It's really, I will say, the one thing that I think is absolutely disgusting about it is that Air One strawberry. Do you know what that's? Yeah, I know about it. I've never tried it, have you? It's insanely good. No, I mean, it's great.

It's great, but it's great, but it's like, why are we, this is crazy. A $20. I went to Japan, and they have, like, amazing strawberries, and they were amazing, but I've never, never bought the one. But they weren't $20. No, because they're from Japan, and I was in Japan. You're like, no, because they're strawberries. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it's crazy.

It's silly. But it's delicious. Yeah, it's amazing. But like, do we want to try it, of course. Well, I bought, yeah, of course. You have to. But now I pretend that all fruit is that $20 strawberry. Like, you have to, like, when you're eating a strawberry, you have to think that it's $20 each.

You know what I mean? You're like, this is the best thing you've ever had in your life. It's going to take me two hours to finish the strawberry. Which is the other thing. It's like, strawberry is this big. Like, why are we savoring a strawberry? Do you know what I mean? I do.

I do. I do. I do want to be by the pool, eating tons of strawberry. Like, that's the vibe. I don't want to savor a strawberry. No. I don't really like savoring anything, to be honest. You don't?

I like devouring. Really? Same. That's like me. Yeah, I don't want to. Wait, do you want to eat alone? I'm a bad sign. You're not going to like my sign.

What? Why? You're an a series. No, no, no, no. Why scary? No, I'm a scary sign. What is it? I'm, I, okay, I'll give you hints.

Okay. I'm really loyal. My sign is supposedly really sexual, but like, I'm like, where is that? Oh, you're a Scorpio? Yeah. I fucking love a Scorpio. Okay, okay, okay. So you're safe here.

I love Scorpio. Scorpios. Okay, great. Usually I would walk into November 4th. Oh. Our best friends, the third. Not for Vega. Come on.

Just say her name at this point. I know her. I follow her. The shoutouts. I die. I can't handle you. I can't handle you. At all.

Wait, you love a Scorpio then. Well, yeah, my daughter's a Scorpio. Of course I love a Scorpio. What's your daughter's name? Breyer. Right. Such a great name. That's her name.

E or A. A. She searched. B-R-I-A-R, yeah. Great. Yeah. She's very sweet. She's the best.

She's the best. What is she interested in? Everything. There's nothing that girl will think no to. She's too young to watch adults, but I want her to, remember. She's way too young. She can not watch her. She's way too young.

What age is appropriate? 35. Yeah. Frontal low develop. No, like 18. 18? 17. 17.

Okay. Even 16. I'm excited. I'm going to watch it on my plane. I think you'll like. it. Although do I have to tilt my iPad? No, no, no. No. Maybe. No, no. Actually, no. Actually, no. It's a sitcom. Yeah.

It's on FX, though. So it is, like, ultimately a little raunchy year. Did your dad produce a theme song? Yes. No. My dad created it, but... My dad did do something for... He did the music for Sons of Anarchy on FX. Oh! We loved that. Wait, hear this. He did a song with Peter Gallagher. Shut up. For the O.C. What?

How are you just bringing that up now? Peter's a dear friend and Peter's like, was my second father growing up. You're stopping it now. Catherine Gallagher is like my sister. Catherine is, I'm obsessed with Catherine. She's amazing. She's amazing. She's amazing.

Wasn't she on this podcast? She was on the OC one. I'm so sorry. And we don't talk about that on this podcast. I am so sorry. But we can have her on the podcast. Yeah, Catherine should come on. She's amazing.

She's amazing. She's so talented. She was just in that amazing play. Yeah, the play with that. Kristen left, I think. Kristen Roseth, but Anna Sophia Rob, I think, took over, right? And there Anna Sophia goes. I love Anna Sophia Rob.

Can I just tell you something? Anna Sophia Rob, the most supportive woman on the face of the other. She's so sweet. I post something. Anna's DMing me saying, I love your post. I go, Anna, we've met once at a party. Special girl. Yeah, I loved her in Soul Server. Me too.

I did. She was amazing. She's amazing, wonderful. She's so talented actress. She's so sweet, too. Let's call her. Well, get her on the freaking phone. She's great.

She's great. You know a lot of great people, but you are great people. Really? I'm meeting you. I didn't know you guys before. Well, now you do. And I'm obsessed. Is everyone obsessed with you?

Yes. I don't believe you. I think you're full of life. Wait. I'm really going to say I want to hang out and I say that all the time. But this time I mean it. No. You don't even say that.

Do you say that to a lot of people? No, I don't. I don't like to leave my house. I say that all the time. Really? Yeah. Wait. Are you guys like, you're?

You're not a homebody. Are you? No. So she's down to go anywhere. No, I don't like party. But like... But she's a yes girl. I'm a yes girl.

Like I'll go. I'm a yes girl, but then an excuse girl. Oh, so you say yes and then cancel? Yeah. A lot of the time. No. I have to push her to get her to do anything. Really?

Yes. Who? So like what's the last plan you've canceled? Well, hold on. I never plancel. I never plan until. I never plan for you guys. Yeah, exactly.

That's like what you do. You plan so. I plan so. You actually plan so. I'm putting on my road. Ultimately, I have to put on, speaking of Haley Bieber, a billion dollars.

Okay, a billion dollars serum right here. Sorry. I never, I need to try it. It's amazing. Yeah, I never will cancel a plan if it has to do with my kid. Like, I only do like kid stuff, basically.

All plans. What, like, play dates? Play dates, trips, like anything. You know what's weird? All my friends are calling, like, hanging out play dates. They're like, should we have a play date? That's what they say now.

That's cute. It's just like, No, you hate it. It's scary to me. It's weird for adults. It's just weird. You're like, no, because we're going to do adult shit. Well, no, I'll still do kids stuff.

I love Disneyland. I'm a Disney adult, ultimately. Love Disneyland. Do you actually? Yeah, of course. I'm obsessed. My daughter's named Briar Rose after Sleeping Beauty. Don't talk to me about Disney.

I watch every morning, I wake up, 7 a.m. My boyfriend's so upset. Well, okay, it's a whole thing. I sleep two hours a night. It's a whole thing. But anyways, when I do wake up, 7 a.m., I usually sleep like 4 to 6.30. I wake up and I'm on my phone out loud, no air pods, no anything, just out loud my boyfriend's asleep.

And I'm watching this one guy go through Disneyland every morning. And he goes and he's like, there's no line at Space Mountain. I'm like, of course there's no line. That's 7 a.m. Kevin, you're crazy. And I'm DMing him. It's amazing. I love my relationship with him parisocial. What?

It's just a guy that goes to Disneyland and walks you through it. And is it calming? Like once a year. Yeah. Okay. But you like to watch Kevin. Is his name? Kevin, I'm obsessed.

Okay. Everyone should go watch Kevin. I forget his last name, but it's like Kevin Disney, something? Does he go every morning? Yeah. To Disneyland. No, he doesn't. And he reports.

I think he works there, to be honest. Oh. That would make sense. But he's never in a uniform, which makes me think he's not, doesn't work there, but Everyone who works there isn't a uniform. Right? Yeah. That's why I'm like, he's never in a uniform.

But also, it is very early. I don't know. I don't think Disneyland's open. That's what I'm saying. I'm confused. He probably works there. He probably works there. And of course, there's no lines.

It's not open. got a great, the blank is going to be open today. And he, like, talks you through, like, Thunder Mountain was closed yesterday. So sad. I honestly think I need to follow Kevin. This is interesting. And what does that do for you? Just gives you comfort. Comfort, but also it awakens me. To know that Splash Mountain is open. I'm like, this is great. It's Tiana's ride now. It's Tiana's world. Of course. I haven't been on it. What's that mean? They've changed Splash Mountain from the old Song of the South because it's very incorrect to Tiana's bayou or whatever after Princess and the Frog.

Oh. Tiana. But the bride stays the same as far as the red. But everything inside the story is different. I just went to Disneyland. And you went on it? Yes. There's my friend who is in Marvel.

Humble brag. I'm bragging on this podcast. My friend who's in Marvel, her name is Geraldine Viswanathan. She's amazing. And she's in the new Thunderbolts. She got a free trip to Disneyland, being in Disney family. Anyways, she took us and she was like, okay, I'm going to pick the rides. She picked all the best rides, thank God.

But she wanted to go on Splash Mountain first, which I thought was genius. I was like, I didn't think of it like that. What do you mean? Because you get soaking wet. So if you do it first, you have time to dry. Exactly. But I didn't think of it. I would never think of it like that.

Is she a Virgo? I know. I always do it last because you're going to get drenched. So do you might as well. But then you're soaking wet. But then you bring an extra change of clothes in the car. Not everybody brings an extra change of clothes. I know.

I thought it was really smart. Okay. So you went on it first. No, anyways, I went on it and she made me sit in the very front and I got absolutely drenched. Soaked. Soaked to the, I was wet. I'm cold. And it was amazing.

And I loved it. I haven't been on it yet. Tiana, ultimately the animatronic is strange. Okay. And it doesn't quite move correctly. Oh, no. I'm just being honest. Feedback.

I'm sure Disney's going to appreciate this. And they should take my notes. They should. They should take my notes. No, it's very weird the way she looks around. It looks like she's hiding. It looks like she's drunk and she's hiding being drunk. Like it looks like when you come up to my mom and my mom's like, yes, exactly.

Like my mom's like, no, I'm totally fine, honey. You know, but she's like had too many drinks. Yeah. That's kind of the vibe that Tiana looks like. She's always like looking. I'm going to report back to you. Report back. We follow each other on Instagram now.

I'm so excited. Did you follow me? I followed you. I followed you. This isn't going to see. Stop at Instagram. No, I'm saying I'm going to DM him when I'm on the ride. Oh, on the ride.

On the ride. Yeah. I want a face time. I have a cover. Face stuff. Yeah, you got a FaceTime. Yeah, you got a FaceTime. Sent me a waterproof cover.

Really? Yeah. A waterproof cover? Wait, what did you say? Flant cases. I'm just giving them a little shout out because they've been so kind of. That's not what I thought you said. I have to ask you one question.

Yes, please do. Do you guys do, like, get a lot of things that you have to post about? No. Do you know what I'm asking? Yeah. You get sent free shit? Yeah. Why isn't anyone sending us PR boxes?

They're not? Where's your... Not me. They are now. What's your stylist husband doing? Husband. Oh. Black, I dry he even pass out.

I'm getting old. Sean Mendez is off the freaking plate. No, I don't know what he's doing for me. It's not like all my friends are getting bags in the mail. Wait, what do you mean? I mean, I'm an unknown, so that's why. All your friends. Now, you might want to clarify, who's getting bag?

Like Sabrina Carpenter. Rachel Senate is getting a bag in the mail. I mean, she's Rachel Senate. Of course, she's a girl of the century, but it's also like, hello? You're going to get a bag in the mail. Yeah, you're getting so many bags. There's bags. They're on their way.

Oh, okay. Yeah. They're just coming from Paris. Don't fret. Okay. They're just coming on the slowboat from the records. Yeah, got it. Okay.

Your bag is on the way. I just feel weird about it. But that's why you're doing it, right? Well, I only do. Of course. I'm very open and honest about it. I don't want to act. I'm doing it for the bags.

I'm very honest about that. I need a bag every once in a while. Do you know what I mean? I need to carry my scripts in the bag. Yeah, you need a bag. Totally. Wait, my dad was on the O.C. Wait, this keeps getting thicker.

Wait, you keep just like, withholding. Wait, was he forming that up. No, he was. What was he doing? Peter sang on the O.C. He did. He sang a Solomon Burke song. Yeah, and my dad was in that band playing.

What? Do we have a clip? Pull up the clip. And roll it. Peter. He's flying Peter. He's here. Fly on me. Has it been on this podcast? No. The O.C. Podcasts. Let's bring Peter.

We keep talking about this other podcast. You're a podcaster. It's really hard to be a podcast. I think podcasting is some of the hardest work. Why? I know. It's just, it's hard. You're like, I've never done it, but. No.

I have my own podcast and it's really hard. Yeah. You don't think it's hard? Sorry, I was falling asleep. What? I just think it's tough. Like, I remember watching podcasts before I started mine and being like, okay, all you do is talk. It's the easiest thing in the world.

Can do this in my sleeve? And then I got on a mic and I was like, hello? What? It's going on. Yeah. How do you sustain this? You're doing it. Yeah, thank God.

You're doing it. This is great. You need a call. I don't have a co-host. That's why. Oh, you need a co-host. It's so hard. I could never.

And sometimes I do solo episodes. No. Imagine that. No. I'm telling stories for an hour. That's why you're saying it's hard. Yeah, it's so hard. No, you need a person.

You need a person. Bring your mom. Because we could just look at each other and then that's that. I love that. You know what I mean? We love you. I love this podcast. Please come back.

We love you and we want you in our lives forever and a day. She says that to every guess. No, I don't. I've never said that before. Okay, roll the clip. Mary Beth Barone. I'm sure you said that to her. We didn't.

She was a delight, but we didn't say that. I don't think we've ever said, I love you, and I want you to stick around for life. Have we? It's so nice. No. There's clips of every single time we've said it. It's back to back every person. That would be so embarrassing.

That's our tagline. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're amazing. No, I love this. Thank you for having me. That was good speaking. Good speaking, everyone. everyone.

Yeah. You're holding my reports. Amazing. Amazing. Amazing. A plus. The speaking. A plus.

You guys did a good job on the speaking. Owen, if you're listening, I miss you. From the moment he walked in, he was even in the hallway, his energy walked in before he did. You know? Yeah. Yeah. It was like he's here. He's delightful, lovely, positive.

total breath of fresh air. Yeah, that was fun. Yeah. I hope everyone enjoyed it as much as we did. And I hope everyone checks out adults and overcompetating. Also, we have a few people, or at least a couple of people that we've talked to. And we really loved and are in that. But yeah, adults.

And you guys are going to do his podcast, too, in your dreams. Yes. We're going to get in our dreams. Yeah. He's like, you're not really doing it. You're going to do it in your dreams. You're going to do it in our dreams for sure. I just want to sit in his made-up kid bedroom because it looks so cozy.

Yeah, in your pajamas. I know. You've even made it to the wall. How does that feel? I made it to the wall. He said there's O.C. all over it. Oh, my God, he did say that. Yes.

I'm honored, honestly. I know we have to be short today, but take that in for a second. I mean, think about it. I don't know about you guys, but when I was a kid, when someone made it to my wall, they were a big deal. Leo. Leo, I had a shrine too. But all the people that made it to my wall were special. And, like, you made it to people's walls.

It feels good. That's real good. That should feel good. Just bands. I think I was too afraid to, like, put celebrities. like a Megan Fox poster up or something. I feel like I would have gotten roasted so hard that it was always like Green Day and yellow card

and red hot chili peppers and stuff. And I was like, one day I'm going to be on the stage with you guys. So it was mostly that. That's sweet. I think, yeah. And Sammy Sosa player for the Chicago Cubs. Yeah, of course.

There you go. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So. It was on your wall, Rachel. Oh, gosh. Well, Patrick's,

Johnny Depp. You know who I loved. Edward Furlong. Oh, yeah. Yes. Edward Furlong when he came out in Terminator 2. I was like, yeah, that's my dude. Wow.

Yeah, that long hair. I'm dating myself. It's fine. I feel okay with it. Was there lightning behind you? Yeah, there was just lightning. Oh, probably. This is Terminator 2.

It's giving Terminator 2. It's giving Terminator 2. It's giving Terminator 2. It's getting, it's giving trapped in a tower. I am trapped in a tower, you guys. And I feel like this tower, it's like very old. Yeah. Looks fun.

Oh yeah, there's a thunderstorm. Yeah. I hope I just want to make up. All right, we got to go. See ya. Bye. That was a hate gum podcast.