Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - Return from Summer on Family Vacations, Family Feud BTS, and Live Performance from MLV of Delta Spirit

Episode Date: July 29, 2024

It’s a return from summer vacation!  Rachel, Rob and Olivia discuss what they have been up to over the summer break, Rob talks about a close call with a potential twister in Chicago, and Olivia tells a heartbreaking story about a fight at her son’s school.. They also discuss the Broad Ideas team appearing on Celebrity Family Feud.   Later on, Matthew Logan Vasquez gives a live performance.  Broad Ideas is supported by IQBAR. Get 20% off all IQBAR products. Text IDEAS to 64000. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details.Broad Ideas is supported by Tropical Smoothie Café. Visit one of Tropical Smoothie Cafe’s 1400+ locations or order online or through their app.Broad Ideas is supported by Seed. Go to Seed.com/BROAD and use code 25BROAD to get 25% off your first month.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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We're back. How many weeks have we had off of post? I mean, it feels like only one. This is a beautiful studio. Oh, yeah. We're in a different space. We are in a different space. Talk about it.

Tell the people. This is our new space. It will sometimes shoot and sometimes we're not. Can I tell you guys something really valuable? People did not like not seeing Rob. in our posts. It was a thing. People were writing in like

where is Rob? Because we didn't have posts at all. Because we didn't hike where's Rob. We took the summer off of post because we were all gone. Yeah. Well, the summer's not over. Sure.

We took a break. But we took our summer vacation already. We all did. Yeah. Well. And now we're back. And we're going to, and we're going to just do this episode

with us as a special guest. So people, you get more Rob. All they want is Rob. Yeah. They're like, everything's great, but where's Rob? Where have you been, Rob? I've been all over.

Do tell. I drove from L.A. to Chicago, then stay there for a couple days, and then drove back to Chicago to L.A. How long did it take? Where did you stop? So the trip out, I took Calvin and my dad. Wait, your dad was along for the whole trip? My 80-year-old dad. I didn't know that. That's me. Yeah.

That was a last minute switcher-roof-roof. Oh, okay. You wanted to come out and do it because he loves road trips as well. That's really cute. Really cute. So you ran out of a car. You didn't take your electric. We did on the way out, we left Fourth of July.

We did the Grand Canyon. We did arches. Nice. It's great. It's awesome. So that was like the first three days and it was 110 to 120 degrees. My goodness. That's every single day.

Horrendous. Yeah. It's hard to get out and do things. Did you camp or anything? No, no. We were just hotel. I'm not in a hotel. But then we went into tell you ride from there.

Oh, pretty. Which, like, after three days of desert heat, we had, like, 8 o'clock dinner. It was, like, 65 degrees out in the middle of the mountains, like outside. It was perfect. Sounds cold. No, it wasn't cold. It was great. You could wear a sweater and you were fine.

Okay. Then we popped over to Denver. Stayed there two days. I took Calvin to Red Rocks to see the Avit brothers and Dawes. You did? Are you serious? Yeah. I would have liked to have seen that. Mandy was out there with Taylor for that.

She was. Aw. Pregnant and all. Very pregnant. That's cute. Red Rock. So, wait, where is that? That's Morrison just outside of Denver.

Right. Because that looks like such a cool venue. It's great. Yeah. And we just happened to be there. one they were coming through. That's awesome. So Calvin had a blast at that. He loves his concerts. Yeah. And then we, between Denver and Chicago, there's not a lot of stops. You did hit up a cracker barrel. So what do you do? Well, so what we did, we left Denver, stopped at Mount Rushmore.

Right. We saw lots of gift shop pictures. Yeah. And then continued to Sioux Falls. Were you in just a regular car? No, we were in a bigger. We were in a bigger. We were in Like an SUV? Like an SUV? How did, I know that Cal got sick, but like normally he can't do very long distance in cars, right? Yeah, I mean, we...

He just can't watch an iPad. It very, like, uh, arches, a teller ride is like three hours. Okay, that's not bad. And it's just like no iPad. Yeah, because he gets motion sick. Yeah. He, so he threw up in the car only once on the way out. Makes me want to fall in.

Into a bag. You always had, you're always proud. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And then in a Starbucks bathroom, he threw up on the way out in Denver, going through the mountains. And then from the hotel to Miao Wolf, which is like 10-minute drive, he got out and puked all over the crowd. That was a- It was like blue slushy and. And Rob shared it with everybody.

He sent pictures. We can pop it up. But no, puky in the way back. That's great. I don't know. So no iPad. So you have a kid on a road trip. They can't watch anything.

What do you do? He was like great. He was just playing in the back. He had like these little Lego things. He had, I let him get keychains everywhere we went. So he was like fighting with the keychain. Great. He's normally not very imaginative, but found it.

He was like so bored that. Or if you give them the space to be, right? Yeah. That makes sense. You never do iPads in the car. Briar never. Not that she hasn't ever, but that was never a thing. And I always made it a point to listen to things,

even shows she was watching when she was a toddler. Like we'd play Peppa Pig just the audio. So she'd get used to just listening to things. Yeah. Well, you get music too. And he did get really into Armchair Anonymous on this trip. What? He, like, kept asking to listen to it?

Because that's our weekly, like, caller stories that are different prompts. Wait, are any, like, super inappropriate? I mean, I didn't play the inappropriate ones. You knew which ones to play. Yeah, I knew which ones. What was his favorite? He thought the pooped yourself ones were hilarious. And you liked the wild animals one.

So there's, like, a shark attack and a bear attack. Really? And he liked listening to that. Yeah. I mean, I could, like, see his face in the rear mirror. There was, like, times where he was covering his mouth. That's cute. That's really cute.

So we went through a bunch of those, and he kept, he kept, except he couldn't remember the name of it. He kept calling it broadcast studios. Okay. He was like, can we listen to more broadcast studios? I think he was trying to say broad ideas. I think he wanted broad ideas. So how long did that whole trip take? So that was like six or seven days until we got to Chicago.

Oh, wow. And then we stayed a couple. days in the suburbs. Yeah. With my parents. And then Natalie and I went into the city without the boys. So Natalie flew out with Vincent. She flew out.

She flew out and met us there. Got it. So the day we got there, she arrived with Vincent. That's so nice. I was going to say, how did Cal do without having his mom? He's fine. I mean, they were fine without us also for the three days we spent in the city. I wasn't worried about that.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. I mean, we thought both of them maybe were going to have more of an issue, but there were enough toys and enough cousins and Hannah and Poplarus. Yeah, you just left them and that was that. There were two tornadoes in Chicago near our hotel. That happened? Two nights in a row. Not really.

Yeah, I was like, I don't think of. But no one cares. Like, we were walking back from dinner and the warnings are going off. It's not raining yet. And people are just sitting on the patio waiting to, like, eat their food. And the first night, we were at our hotel and we were like on the ninth floor and it's like big windows. And it's going off and we're like both rule followers. So we're like, are we should go somewhere.

Right. So we didn't take the elevator, walked nine flights down. Wow. Got to the lobby. No one cared. Like restaurants still open. The like receptionist still just sitting there. It's very relevant with Twisters coming out.

Well, I made that joke that... You did. They were like, this is a good PR-O-O for Twisters. But it was crazy. Like, trees were getting to rip down. Oh, you actually saw it, like, passed through? No. No.

He's like I watched it on news. It was just very windy and very rainy. It's always windy in Chicago. Here, I'll show you... Okay. Have you ever been through a tornado warning? Like, have you heard it? No.

It's pretty, like, eerie and ominous. It is. I've been... That scares me because I was in Arkansas recently, and I was like, I love it here. And then everyone's like, yeah, we just had three tornadoes. I was like, I want to go home. This was like out of our window. Lightning.

Wind, yeah. But you see the trees are like going nuts. They're dancing away. And then all around the city was just like wrecked. There were like trees and stuff. Wow. We saw one on a car, like a whole branch that came down and took a car out. What about you being away from the kids when that was happening?

That would freak me. They were out in the suburbs. They were near us in the city, not out there. Got it. So. You know what I find the most fascinating about this whole entire story? That you and Natalie are both rule followers. Yeah.

I didn't know that people refer to themselves as that. Oh, yeah. I'm a rule follower. Yeah, you are. I don't know about you. I don't know that I call you a rule follower. Yeah. Yes.

Like, okay, let's put you through the scenario. Yeah. I think I would be a rule follower. I think I would be a rule follower. She would be. Jeff would be. 100%. We're watching TV and it's like a tornado warning.

Yeah. Seek shelter immediately. I'd get away from windows, go in the basement. This fear-based lady over here? She'd be the first one in the basement. I'm only afraid of those kind of things, though. Yeah, but she's really afraid of those kinds of things. I don't fuck with Mother Nature.

At a 12-story hotel, like I was like, I don't even know that a basement's safer. Jeff would be out there reading. He'd take his book outside and be like, I'm going to watch it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm a rule follower, abider. I walk to crosswalks, you know?

Oh, you do? I don't always walk to crosswalks. That's almost a regional thing, though. Like, California, it's very, like, it's a spectrum across the country, I think. Yes, and they've also, like, different places. It's more of a thing. Like, New York. Yeah, of the fuck.

I don't walk to the crosswalk in New York. That was one thing being back in Chicago. I forgot that, like, drivers are so aware of pedestrians that they get so close to them. And, like, coming to L.A., they stop. Like, you're on the sidewalk anywhere near a corner. Cars are, like, way more aware of you. In Chicago, they're just, like, rolling through stop signs. And, like, they're going through the crosswalk as soon as you pass their area.

Like, they don't care at all. So going through all of those different places. Do you feel like when you get back to L.A., are you like home? Or do you ever get the urge to be like, ooh, I would like to live here or try this? I mean, L.A. feels like home now. Chicago has changed so much since we left. And, like, even the people that we have back there,

there's fewer and fewer. So weird. Yeah. But then, yeah, so the drive back, we did. Lincoln, Nebraska. Chicago to Lincoln, Nebraska. Springsteen. Denver again, and I took Cal again to Red Rocks to Dr. Dogg was there, which is one of his favorite bands.

So he was, like, singing along, and, like, he had the best time at that. Did your dad go to? No, he set out both the concerts. Okay. But he drove back with you as well. He drove back, yes. He sat back while I drove. You drove the whole trip.

Yeah, yeah. Then Denver to Santa Fe to see some friends that live near Santa Fe that have two little girls that Cal got to play with. Santa Fe to Sedona. Nice. Which Sedona was. No, but it was beautiful. I love Sedona. Yes, going through flagstaps of Sedona, I think was one of the best parts of the drive.

Really? Yeah. It's like kind of Utah-y with the big rock. but then also like forests and mountains. Oh, wow. Yeah. That sounds fun. I love a road trip.

I want to, yeah, I want an RV trip. I want to do it in an RV, though. My dream is RV cross-the-country. We didn't go to Krakow barrel. I just took that. You just took the picture. You were a phony. So what I was going to do, I took the picture of the night.

We got into Sue Falls. Did you go into the general store? Well, so I took the picture of the night of Sioux Falls and sent it. She didn't even respond. I thought I did. See, sometimes I respond in my mind. I was going to go for breakfast. and I was like, oh, Rachel doesn't even care.

I'm not going to bother. And then we just left. Oh, they have really good pancakes. I cannot believe you did not eat at Cracker Barrow. I'm offended. We should have responded to the... I thought I did. I do that all the time.

Like, I respond. I'm like, oh, that. And I don't actually text it. You just say it to yourself. And I forget that I don't text it. You know what I mean? Yeah, I do. I can't believe you.

You didn't even go in? I mean, we passed... Did you not even go in? We passed so many. You didn't even go in. It was closed. when we got in. I'm hungry. And it was open when we left.

We got up like, we left 7, 8 a.m. every morning on them to. You were on a skit. Did you have it all printed out? Did you have it PowerPoint? He had an it in my calendar. Calendar. He had it in his calendar. I had it in my calendar. Had it in my calendar.

Had it in my calendar. And we stuck pretty much to the driving blocks I had in the calendar. I believe it. That is impressive. It's impressive. It's impressive. It really is. It was good. But that's a trip of a lifetime when you have your dad and your son three generations.

That's really special. Yeah. And I recorded with Calvin and my dad, my dad, like, telling his story. Oh. Talking about growing up and his dad passed away. That's really cool. The dad's the one that drove the car into the. That's your dog. That's your other grandchild.

His dad died when he was like. 14, 15. Oh, no. That's one of the things I think that is missing in our culture is having that three-generation home, like, you know, like blue zones, they say that's one of the things that keeps people living longer, happier, healthier lives. But also, I think in our culture, we don't look to our elders as much for wisdom and life stories.

And we're not doing as much of that anymore. and I think that we spend too much time focusing on the youth. And I think it's really good you did that. And I think we all should do more of that. I found out a whole bunch of stuff I didn't know. Really? And you haven't. My girlfriend.

My dad, yeah. My mom, listen to it. I know. That's perfect. Yeah, I didn't know. My grandma played like semi-pro baseball. I had no idea. See, this is so cool.

Your white socks cap on. I did see a white socks game while we were there. You did? That's a really nice trip. This is a great trip. I'm jealous. It was a long two and a half weeks. Yeah.

When did you get back? Last night, yesterday. Oh, wow. You got back yesterday? Yeah. And you're functioning. And then went to Matt's concert last night. Wow.

Wow. You got back yesterday. It's impressive. Yeah, we left Sedona at like 7.30 a.m. Oh, my goodness. Did you get any crystals? Did you feel the energy of the rocks? So Calvin got really into crystals this trip.

I don't, it was not in the, like, I don't know if it's a, the energy way. But it's in a... What other way is there? But we'd get into like a gift shop and he'd be like, are these crystals real? They're only $5? Like, can we get a bunch of these? And then I got him one and it like chipped and you could see that it was just like coloring and... What do you mean? We got like a cheap one.

Oh. It's like a $6 one that was like painted and had like dye on it. I mean, he got another one later. Don't worry. Because we went through the petrified forest. You did. Between Santa Fe and Sedona. Man, I gotta do it. Yeah.

I need an RV and like, do I really want to drive it? No, you get a big car. Just come with us. And you're fine. Get a big car and there's hotels. I know, but I love the RV experience. I like the RV experience. I really, like deep down, you guys, we know.

I know. Or outdoorsy. You can rent RVs. Yeah. Yeah, I know. Yeah. Oh, I know. Run an RV.

What do you? Well, because like, the one I would want is probably a bigger one. I don't really want to drive it. Drive it. Yeah. You can't. There's a certain, like, you know, size until you need a special license to drive one. So you couldn't get it like so bad.

Well, we don't need to go that. You can get like a sprinter van thing. Sprinter van, yeah. I've rented one of those to take Calvin camping. That would be nice. And we forgot to turn the, like, water on or something for the toilet. Oh, no. It smelled terrible.

Oh, yeah. Oh, no, gross. I don't see you doing like the outdoorsy type things. Well, it was like a nice one, so that was why. But we got a tent and it was just like Temecula. Oh, okay. We had rented a like piece of land. He got a sprinter van to go to Temecula. A piece of land. Well, it was like Memorial Day weekend or Labor Day weekend and we did not plan it ahead of time. So the only place was like some guy's farm. The guy was like living in his house. So weird. And we just like went up on the sale with.

just RV and put a tent up and... Just you and Cala? My other friend Matt, this is the third mat that we're talking about today. You got a lot of Matt. What's up with that? Interesting. Very. Okay.

Olivia, what have you been up to? Not that. I don't know what I've been up to. You went to two film festivals? I did. You and Nadine have been partying. We went to film festivals. That was really fun.

And then Jeff's... You fell in love with Arkansas. Absolutely. Have you been to Arkansas? Have you been to Bentonville? I think I have been to Bentonville, actually. It's so freaking cute. There was great restaurants.

It was adorable. And then we went to Redwood City. And then Jeff's family was just here. And then we still have another trip. But, yeah, it's been a lot of life. This episode is brought to you by IQ Bar. I love IQ Bar because, listen, I need a lot of help getting my brain going in the morning. And thanks to IQ Bar, it makes it a little easier.

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Yeah, she's on like day two of the vacation. So this happened while I was away. I get a call. No, it's bad. Wait, have you guys seen each of them since? No, no. She doesn't know this story. Oh, you haven't talked?

No. No, you've been out of service. Yes. Okay. Shepard got beat up at school. What? Yes. What?

Yes. What? Yes. I can't even tell you the feelings. Wait, he's in school right now? So he was at camp, sorry. So he was at camp and I get a call from Jeff and he's like, well, Shepard got in his first fight at school. And I was like, what do you mean?

He got in a fight. He's five. He's five and he's like special needs and like vulnerable and tiny. And so I talked to Elliot and he's like, Mom, it was so bad. He said, because Shepard will play fight. He'll go up to you. Like, if he saw you right now, he'd come up to you and like play fight you. It doesn't hurt.

He's not actually hitting you. So apparently this kid was like, I told him to stop and he didn't. And then just beat the shit out of it. What do you mean beat the shit? How old was the other kid? He's older than him. I don't know how old. They can't give us the information.

Oh, they can't tell him. tell you who did it is because Elliot told me. Let's publicly broaden. What's his name? I will not say his name. How old is he? He's like six or seven. To older. He's older. He's older than Shepard. And bigger. And bigger. What do you mean? So this is what Elliot said. Wait, and you're gone. I'm not there. Okay. And Elliot's like, Elliot was so affected. He was like, Mom, I came over. And he goes, I saw this kid using extreme force. He He was like he was socking him, kicking him on the floor. Shepard was on the floor.

Elliot was like he was bright red, crying hysterically, covered in dirt and being plummeted. And he was like, I went up and I started screaming like, get off my brother. And he separated him. He's like, Mom, I took him to the bathroom and I washed him. Stop it. Okay. Do you understand? And I'm not home.

And I was like, I can't. No. It's little shirk. I can't. I can't. I can't. And I was like, this is, I don't know what, like, the answer is here. Because I can't contact the parents.

I can't whatever. Why not? They're not allowed. I mean, I guess I could now that I know who the kids' parents is. The school can't divulge information, but if you know. I don't know. I think it's like a lie. People could get hurt doing that.

like if you people could retaliate or whatever, but he was scared to go to school after that. I went like, I got home and I was like taking him to camp and he's like, no, I'm going to get hurt. I'm going to get hurt. I'm going to get hurt. First of all, the fact, like imagine being that parent though. Like your kid kicked the shit, beat the shit out of a special needs kid at school.

Like, I don't know what to. Oh, Ray. Don't make me cry. I'm trying. I know. I know. I can't. It's going to make me cry. And then, like, we're not allowed an aide because they don't think he needs one. And so now I have to petition and be like, but he does. Like, I get that he's not a danger to himself or others. But he's vulnerable. And he's not safe from other people being that vulnerable and not having someone with him. He's this big. He's so tiny. I can't. Elliot cleaning him in the bathroom. Oh my God. You guys should see not only that. You should see the video of Elliot the next day. Jeff's sending me videos. Elliot's in the garage punching the punching bag and working out and doing weights. Play in the Rocky theme selling. Legitimately. I'm going to show you the video. It will break your heart because Elliot's like trying to get buff.

He's in the gym now working out every day trying to get buff to defend. What is your brother's around for this too, right? Yeah, I said, why don't we just have David walk him into school the next day? Yeah, yeah. What is your brother? I haven't talked to my brother because I was gone and then he was gone when I was when I got back. But like... Is he training Elliot?

I mean, my brother needs to. He needs to train Elliot. I felt really bad. That broke my heart more than anything. It affected Elliot so much. He kept bringing it. up for days. He was like, Mommy, he was so dirty and red and crying. And I don't, if I hadn't have gone in there and washed him, I don't know what would have happened. Like, I think there's a

serious conversation that needs to happen with the school. Yeah, there's going to be. I mean, I definitely am going to have a conversation. I feel bad because I do love all the people there and the staff. Yeah. It's, it's just, he needs an aid. Yeah, he needs protection. But also I think there's a way to talk to the kid's parents if you know the kid that did it. You know what's so sad is that when I picked Shepard up after dropping him off that day, because I was like, I had to talk with him. After it happened, I said, you know, you're going to want to stay away from him. Give him a space.

Please don't interact with him. Like, just, you know, whatever. Did he understand, like, was he like? So he knows because even if I'm like talking about it in his vicinity, he comes up and reenacts it. And he's like, I got hurt. And he was kicking me in my stomach. Like, he was kicking him in his stomach. Did anything happen to this kid?

Did he get, like, punished by the school? Yeah, they called in his parents. He got punished. But so when I dropped him off the next day, he was so scared to go. He was, like, crying. He didn't want to get dropped off. He was like, I'm going to get hurt. I was like, you're not going to get hurt.

And I talked to them, make sure he stays away from him. So when I picked him up the next day, he came running to me. And he was so happy. And I was like, oh, he's happy, I'm here. And he said the kid's name. And he was like, he said sorry. He said sorry. He did.

And he was so happy. It like broke my heart. He like, it's weird because I could tell he had empathy in a way. Like he didn't want there to be that friction. Well, he probably didn't understand that it wasn't going to happen again too. Right. It was probably a release to see. Yeah, it made him feel better that the kid came up.

to him and said, sorry. Yeah. Anyways, that was my son-law. And then I couldn't even process it because we saw this film called Daughters. It's a documentary. You told me about this. It's one of the best documentaries I've ever seen. It's about these children, these girls who get to go into prison and have a father-daughter

dance. And it's the most heartbreaking, beautiful story. I think it's going to be on Netflix soon. It's a worthwhile watch and it's heart wrenching. But I had just gotten out of that movie when I got that call. And I was already like thrashed. He sounds like you need a vacation. They are taking a vacation.

Yeah. I did feel that after this trip of like. You need a vacation. Yeah. Are you not doing any other vacation? No, we're going to. Yeah. What about you, Ms. Rachel?

Rachel. Are you allowed to talk about any of your trip? Yeah, we traveled for like over a month. First, we went to like my family's home on the East Coast, which is our favorite. Love it. We were there for coastal trip. Did your brother go to? Yeah, my brother.

And the baby? My sister-in-law and the baby. Awesome. Went for the first time. That's like a hangout on the beach type trip? It's a beach town, yeah. It's the best. and we've gone there.

And my grandparents vacationed there when they were kids. So it's like been in the family forever. Both my grandparents were buried there. Do you go to the grave? We do. Well, either. Yeah.

I didn't go. My mom went this time. My uncle also passed away a couple years ago or a few years ago. He's buried there too now. And it's so weird because you save your plot. Like my aunt's name is already on the tombstone. Oh, that's wild. I know.

I'm like, Aunt Carol, like, don't you feel weird about that? Like, whatever. It's a little weird. Yeah. So we do that and we do that for 10 days and then we went. That's a long time. 10 days. Yeah.

That's a long time. Because two are travel days and like you have to fly and then you have to drive like a couple hours. And like two of those days are wash. Do you all stay in one house? We do. We stay in the house with my cousins and the kids. Is it a house that's in your family or you rent it? No, it's my aunt and uncle's house since the 80s.

Okay. Yeah. No, they've had it forever. And we all stay there with my cousins. And like across the street, there's a family that's always been there too and their kids. And they're like, it's like a whole block party. Like the kids are playing in the street with the lightning bugs. I say lightning bugs.

What else do you? People say fireflies. Oh. It's always a debate. I grew up lightning bugs. Yeah. Lightning bugs. Yeah. And they stay out, you know, and they're on their bikes and they're playing with the ball.

And there's, you know. And there's like not really any technology. Like no iPads really. Like go watch a movie. You know. It's great. It's so ideal. So we try to spend as much time as possible.

And then we went on a vacation to the lakes in Ontario, which, Muscoca, there's like a bunch. There's like, I don't know about a bunch. There are a lot of different lakes. It's so beautiful, you guys. I read that like if you can visually see water, like, where you're. you live, your stress level is reduced. I believe it. Great 100%.

That's why you have a pool, right? My pool. That's why I turned a faucet on. That's why my bathtub's never emptied. It was so nice, you guys. Like, I am such a fan of Lake Life. And being on a... Briar is a little adventure seeker.

Like tubing and whatever. Like, she wants to go the fastest crazy. I'm so down for that stuff. But there was this one. There was this one. One, and so I don't know if you call it a two, because it's like the Superman one where you lay down and you can just hold on and you're like flying. You guys, did you fly off? No.

I did not fly off. Did you're bathings to fly off? But that's why I injured myself. Oh, jeez. No, like you're holding on so tight. I was sore for like three days after because you're whipping around corners. I was up in the air. My hands are the only thing.

I'm like flying my legs flailing like to run. to hold on for dear life and Breyer's just laughing. My leg's trying to keep her on. Like, it was so chaotic. Oh, my God. Do all the adults do it or is it mostly a kid thing? Mostly kids. Like, is it mostly like light little kids?

Adults do it. They do. Well, no, no, no. The kids are always on. But if Briar's on, you can go full force, like crazy. By herself or do you have to be with her? No, no. Not by herself.

These were all like. But does she wear a life jacket? Yes, of course. Are you kidding? All right. Absolutely. I wear a life jacket. Me tubing. Yeah, of course. But anyway, it was just so funny and it's just so cute because she really loves adventure. She tried water skiing again and she got up and like, you know, she'll love the wave runner or the jet ski and go as fast as possible, hit all the bombs. So fun. It's so fun. I love it. I just love that she's so down for that stuff.

That makes for a good summer. It's a good, yeah. It was so, that was ideal as well. Like the lake. Did you get recharged? Being gone? Did you get a break? Did you get to like relax and you know what? Did you get to turn your brain off a little bit? I got to read and like hang out.

You know, you're still full force because when you're with your kids like you're always. I know there's no break. You know, there's no like, but it was still wonderful. Good. And there were no obligations like you have to be here and you have to do this and you have to be on this meeting or that's, da-da-da. You could wake up whenever you want. And she sleeps in. Oh, place for heart.

before her. No, it was really such a nice time. And you know, you were talking about like the three generations or whatever. Briar got to spend three and a half weeks with her great grandmother who is almost, she'll be 98 in August. That's amazing. That was the best part. Like, got to actually stay in the house three and a half week, like full on time with her great grandmother. And that was really cool. Because I love that lady myself. Yeah. So that was really nice to see. And yeah, we didn't stop. Lots of things, lots of activities. Um, yeah. It's a lot. It was a lot. And we were away for a long time. You really were. I was like, I don't even know you anymore. It's weird when you're gone that long. No Wi-Fi, no service. I honestly, I mean,

I would text. Like, I would check in. It's just not the same. But I made a conscious effort. You guys, like, I would not bring my phone. It's great. Everywhere. There were so many times where Briar's like, mom, take a video, take a picture. And I'm like, I don't have it because I didn't want to be on it. You know, there were a lot of like games. Game nights and things and board games. You know, it was just really, that was really nice. A game show, she loves watching a game show. She loves supermarket sweep. How does she feel about family feud? So last week. Yeah. We made our debut. We sure did. And Rob, you really, you really, really brought down the house. You were still putting this all on me? Yeah, of course.

100%. We lost every single round, not just mine. We did not lose every single round. Well, we stole one round. We lost every round. Well, we would have won. Well, so we went on Family Feud a couple months ago. We did.

It was fun. We made some lifelong friends that I can say we will be friends with. It's super great people. Yeah, we played against amazing people. But also they practiced. We went in like. You didn't practice? They practice buzzing.

Oh, they practice. See, I really screwed the pooch in the practice round before we started when they were like, come up and butt. And I was so on it that they got so scared that like Walker smoked me in the first round. Yeah, I got smoked by his wife. Every single buzzing round. Yeah. You think you're moving so fast because you want to make sure that you go to the end of the question. She got one buzz.

But she gave the second top answer. Okay. What was it again? I forget. And I thought Rob was going to seal the deal for us. I thought he was going to bring us home. Didn't I turn to you and say, he's going to do. Wife.

Yeah. And we got this. We're about to win. But he didn't say wife. He did not say wife. But what he did say was Obama. Obama. I got tripped up.

First, the question started with God. Shane really threw you. So I went like straight to religion and was like, fuck, I come from a very religious family. And I'm going to have to answer something about religion that I don't know much about. It wasn't religious. Well, I know, but the question started with like after God. So I immediately just went like, cool, this is a, this is a religion question. I need to get this right. And then he answered Oprah. So I totally changed where my... He threw you. Train of thought was. But it wasn't even up there. So it should...

shouldn't have thrown you enough to follow. It should have been like, don't go that direction. It should have been like, oh, that's not the right direction. Listen, I've watched a family feud my whole life. I know, I know normally how to answer these questions. He got flubbed. Yeah, that was a moment in time. And that's why we lost.

I mean, kind of. We lost. What was Leah's answer to? Jesus. Yeah, that wasn't good. No, but actually, looking back, so many people are like, I would have said that too. Obama, yeah.

A lot of people I'm asking. Not one person would have said Obama. I've asked so many people. Did we say? Did we set it up what it actually was? No, I've asked so many people. It was like, everyone was like, Obama. What is it?

Nobody. Whose voice would you listen to after God? Like second to God. He said Obama's. He's not even our president. But you know what? It did make for an epic life. long memory and story that Rob said Obama. He said Obama. It's okay. We sent Rob an Obama figure.

I have it in the other room. You do. It should be out here. And you said you already have one. It was fun, though. We had fun. It was so fun. It was so fun. I didn't. I mean, I do want to say anything. We need to go back to like answer anything. No, we we lost it. Like, the only time, the only time was we would huddle and then Rachel would we'd argue about. No, and nobody would be like, yes. it's this and then I'd be like, I did. Well, to be fair, it was already like all the easy ones, all the layups were said by the time it got to us. Right.

It was not, we were not in an easy position. No, and I think maybe we should have. We were not in a winning position. No, we lost every buzzer. We should have maybe prepared a little more for it. There's no preparing. We've all watched Family Feud. Did you watch Lean Up, though?

I will say this, that everyone's sitting at home watching Family Feud, is way more cocky than they deserve to be. Because I've watched that show my whole life, like, very coffee. I'd be like, it's this, it's this. And I'd always get it right. When you're there, they also like, it's hard to be.

Terrify you before you go. Yeah, yeah, I think that's what got me. That was, like, too much. I was honestly purposely trying to tune it out because I'm like, this is going to give me an anxiety attack. Like, I know how to play. I know what you do, but when they, like, are like, and you have to, and you can't.

I felt like they were teaching me how to fly a plane. And if I got it wrong, we were going down. You know. I will say I was less nervous about being there in the audience. Like it was, it was much, it felt. When you went on stage, you're saying. Yeah. When you're on stage, I felt fine, but backstage, I thought I was going to have a panic.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But then still being up there with Steve answering. Yeah. That's when you get more. Little anxious. I don't know. I didn't feel anxious with that. I just, I loved that.

Like that made me very excited. I was really sad, though, because when he would go talk to the audience, I couldn't hear him. Oh, you can't hear him what he's saying to the audience. Which I found. He was being really funny. Yeah, he was being so Steve Harvey about it. He was a mood. He's a mood.

For sure. He's a mood. I wanted more of him. I'm like, I felt like we didn't get enough of him. Yeah. Well, they did. They do so many. Yeah.

I think they recorded like four or five that day. That day. Yeah. So, yeah. He's going through it. He's awesome. You know what I made me realize? I think I would love to host a game show.

Could you do, though, like five of them in a day like that? Yeah. Yes, because it's one day, which is a normal, like, shoot day on set, but you have so many done. Yeah. And you're like, great. It was a good vibe on that set, too. Good vibe. Everyone's not worked there.

The whole energy there was great. I loved everything about it, and I can't wait to go back. I can't wait to host. I can't wait to host. If they let us back. I know. I wonder if they'd let us back. Do they have returning guests?

Yeah. Didn't they say like John Legend and Chrissy Teigen were recording before us? And that was like their second or third time there. Okay, let's do it. All right. We're going back next season. Next season. I'm going to redeem ourselves.

Redemption. Or we just put you in a wig and we change your name and we go on as. regular, not celebrity. Do they do regular still? Of course. Well, so the thing is... No, because every time I've looked, it's like celebrity. No, they do. They shoot the regular one in Atlanta.

So the other thing is like... Oh, they do? The celebrity one's easier. Like, they want us to win. Right, well, you're playing for a charity. For a charity. Yes, I mean. So we had no excuse. I want to do it again.

I know. We were really... That was me practicing. My buzzer. Do it. One, two. I mean it was the only one that buzzed first. Yeah, but then her answer was a little boo-boo. I forget what it was, but it was the second most popular. It was very disappointing.

Jesus. No, that was for my question. That was for his question. Oh. But we will practice when we go back. Dang it. We will practice. Okay. And we will win.

If there's any other game shows that would have us, I mean. You know. Is there? Let's do it. Oh, maybe there are. But originally, I think you were supposed to be next to me, and you would have been in the middle, and maybe that was the real problem.

Hmm. Or anchor. Hmm. I mean, if we could do it all again. What if we got, like, addicted to games? You guys, let's play family if you don't hear next time. Ooh, we should have done that just the three. Are we going to play again?

I'm so stupid. Just play Scatigories. I love Scatigories. Love Scatigories. All right. We have a special guest today. Oh. Yes.

Before we go. Do we go? You can do, this is the love of your life. Yeah, the love of my life, Matt. Matthew Logan Vasquez is going to grace us with his presence. Well, very excited. Matt played in this band called Delta Spirit for a while. And he's in town with his family.

He's going to come play a couple songs for us to, uh... We're very lucky. End out our summer. Yeah. Return from summer. I mean, summer's not over, you guys. It's not over. It's over.

We're going to have more summer stories. What do you? It's not over. It's still warm. And it's pretty much over. No, it's not. It's over for you. Oh, it's over for you. Oh, it's over for you. Yeah, it's over for you. We'll still have summer things. Our kids don't go back to school yet, though. Sure. No.

They're at camp, so it's the same thing. Breyer has a camp for two weeks. Yeah. But let's welcome Matt. Let's do it. Let's welcome Matt a few times. Matthew Logan Vasquez. Support for broad ideas comes from seed. I love knowing. what I'm putting in my body, and when I get to do it so easily with seed, it makes me a happy person.

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slash broad and use code 25 broad to get 25% off your first month. That's 25% off your first month of Seeds, DSO1 Daily Symbiotic at seed.com slash broad. Code 25 broad. Hey, gals. Oh, hey. Fancy seeing you here. I wasn't ready for that. I took a sip just as he did that. How's it going? Oh, it's great. I've been traveling around with my family doing a house show. just so I can give my wife and kids the experience of touring the Western States. No way. What does that mean house shows? So this guy, Dave Bazan from Pader the Line, really popularized it in my genre of music, like indie rock music.

But you reach out to your fans, you set up your own ticket, and then you go play these tiny house shows. And the ticket's a little bit more expensive because it's really intimate. You mean house? Yeah, yeah. At someone's house. So one of your fans will offer up their home and be a big, big shot, you know, and bring all their friends over. You know what? You guys.

It was super cool. Oh, that's so cool. That's so funny. I was just thinking last night because we have this big, like, kind of concrete thing in our yard. Yeah. And I was like, we need to have a live band in our yard. You thought that last night? Last night.

And then I was like, people don't do that, do they? They do in fact do that. You should come play in my yard. She has a concrete. Sure. I have a concrete slab. Well, yeah, and some electricity and we could do a show. Yeah, little lights, little fire pit.

Oh, yeah. You just make a whole, you nest a venue out of the backyard and make it really great. I've never heard of this before. It's so much fun. And it's a great opportunity. You know, when I'm on tour, it's usually the same. major populous cities, but you end up going to places you'd never imagine doing house shows.

We just, I took my kids and my wife, and we played in Orca's Island and up in the sand once. I've been there. It's gorgeous. It is beautiful. Yeah. Imagine just playing in the woods with a bunch of people. No, it's gorgeous. So you get to take your family.

Now, are you driving around? Yes. In what? Ford Transit. So it's basically the American sprinter. Yeah. And then... That was my question.

Yeah. Yeah. We built a cozy bed in there. We don't really camp. We're not the camping type. We like hotels. A glamper or a hotel. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. And the kids like the bed. When we're on really long straight drives, they can get up there and take a nap. Or most of the time they're on like one's on Minecraft and the other one is just watching Frozen over and over and over and over. How old are they? Yeah.

Three and eight. Oh, wow. So the eight-year-old is having these seminal memories where we're stopping and getting the junior merit badges or the junior ranger badges you can get at the National Parks which are really fun. It's a free collectible.

Adults do it. But we had this great day there. Rob was also went to Arches. We just missed each other. Are you kidding? He was in Denver going to the Meow Wolf

while we were in Santa Fe at the original one. Oh, Meow Wolf. Is that how puked? After the fact. Yeah. Oh, he peaked before. Yeah.

That was the purple pucus was crazy. It was pretty epic. It was from a slushy. Yeah. The mall beforehand. Yeah. Yeah, we just missed you. Yeah.

It was a bummer to miss you. Yeah, you guys should have planned that better. We started to and. And then he messed it up a little bit. Yeah. I had a joint birthday party with some bandmates because all our birthdays are in July. Really? When's your birthday?

July 10th. Thank you. Happy birthday. Yeah. Cancer? Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah. Can you tell?

Mm-hmm. She usually can. But, yeah, we do this, we did it last year and we decided to do it again, where we have this really beautiful river access where we live in Wimberley, Texas, and all our friends drive out from Austin. And we, you know, get in the water, have a little barbecue. Do you tube? Yeah. Oh, you can totally tube. But we have.

Tubular. Yeah, exactly. I love a river tube. Me too. Oh, yeah. Come tubing. Don't say it. You don't have to say it twice because I will be there.

We have this amazing tree swing that's pretty epic. You have a tree swing and a river with tubing? Yeah. Is it weird if I come moving? Yeah, you guys can totally. You guys should come to sit. We were renting out your other house, right? Yeah.

So you can just leave Los Angeles and live like our her mat. Speaking of the other house, though, can you tell us about your house? Oh, yeah. Of course. Yeah, we bought the world segue. We bought the world's cheapest house or the region's cheapest house that we could buy. The only one that I could get a loan for. And it ended up being this small town English teacher, my friend's English teacher,

who had committed suicide in the house. And so the first words I said when I walked in the house, staring at the body-shaped bloodstain in the carpet, was who died? And the realtor got really quiet. Wait, it was actually still the... This is a real story? Yes, this is not a fake story. I thought you were...

I thought this is the house you're in now, not the one you're building. This is the house we're in now. It was still like that when you walked in. And you were like, ha, ha, who died? And he's like, actually. We were so desperate to get in the housing market that... Stop it. We just went for it.

There was blood on the carpet and you were like... We got rid of the carpet. Wait a minute. I don't know that I could see something like... Oh, my. Yeah. Was there? Yeah, yeah.

So that, well... It's tough to say because I was on mushrooms. Okay. So, and I was isolated. So like anything. Yeah, when I was at the house. I have a couple ghost stories. But yeah, this lady, she's a creative writing teacher.

So a musician moving in is kind of nice. And it was right before we moved to Oslo for a stint. My wife's Norwegian. And we were, or I was by myself recording this record. And I started writing this song. And I was like, pretty good, huh, Ladana? That was her name. And the temperature in the room dropped like 10 degrees.

It was just like, ugh. And then I just started speaking audibly because I'd been by myself for a while. And again, on like microdosing-ish mushrooms. And then I demoed the song. And then I sat down to date the song. I sat down. I made Trader Joe's Orange Chicken. And I was watching Vice News tonight.

So like take you back to the mid-teens. Yeah, and then I was sitting, eating my, like, dinner by myself. And I hear in the other room my really expensive U-47 microphone fall down from the mic stand. Like, it was held in by rubber bands. It was really secure. And the fact that that drop just scared the living shit out of me. And then I picked up the mic and I'm like, hey, hey, hey, you know, like just talking audibly. But I took, I took like a horse hairbrush.

clean the capsule. And I'd been meaning to do that. And I receded this tube from the 1930s and just got that in there and put it all back together. And the microphone has never sounded better. So that's kind of cool. But yeah. You're like, thank you. La Donna. Yeah, LaDonna. There is this other story, though, real quick, about we had a neighbor, his name's Kenny. His nickname's the Rattler. He's from Milwaukee. So he talks like a full dude from He's like, oh, hi. But dress is like a cowboy. And he passed away in February.

Oh, no. My best friend, Frank, he's 75. He was like one of the guys that would hang out at this in our neighborhood. We have a four-car garage honky-tonk. And my kids go there. I mean, yeah. They watch our kids and stuff. And, like, Frank makes a frozen margarita, like virgin frozen margaritas for the kids.

And they have a popcorn machine. Oh, course. And Timo's always, Timo's my youngest. He's three. listening to music all the time, but this guy passed away and they put a framed photo of him above a pair of congas. And my three-year-old stared into this photo like it was Ghostbusters 2, you know, like, Vigo! And all of a sudden he just started screaming and being like, I see Kenny playing the congas because he was like under these congas and he could see Kenny in the honky talk had

like manifested it. And since then, since then, this scene, there was this photo of him in a music video that we had shot in the honky talk

where Kenny's going like this. Hi! And we started, or he started emulating that and still does it where he's like, no. Does this weird,

oof, unique? No, it's really sweet. And he's kind of like, he's coming to like this really funny understanding of what death is. And it's Martha really tried to, you know, subdue the fear by saying Kenny didn't die and he's

in Kansas City. But now he's like obsessed with Kansas City. Like that's where you go when you die. Oh, you've got to Kansas City. Kansas City. Oh my God. You're like, I'm going to go to Kansas. He's like, no.

Everything's up to do. Yeah. He's really, he thinks Kenny's cool now. And like, ghosts are neat. That's cool. I don't. really believe in the ghost thing. What do you mean?

You got too many experiences. I know, right? But I just, I think that the human experience is crazy. I'm open. You're in my team. We have this fight all the time in the show. Yeah. I think that the power of suggestion is incredible

in humans. I believe in ghosts. That's cool. Yeah. I always tell my son because he gets scared and I'm always like, if you see one, please come get me because I've been looking my whole life. And I really want to see a ghost. That's cool.

So now it's like a fun thing and it's not scary for him anymore. That's cool. Except for my one son talks about the man with one leg that comes and yells his name. Oh, yeah. That doesn't feel good. No. Because I'm like, what's that? Like, that's so specific.

It happens when you tell him to look for ghosts. Totally. Well, I didn't tell Shepard to look for ghosts. Only Elliot. Yeah. Young minds are so cool. Yeah. You want to play?

No. Rob's getting you off. I'll talk about ghosts. No, I'll play some. Are you flirting with them? We've been flirting since the day we met. This is what I'm seeing. Wait, how did you mean?

We met at a different podcast. Sorry. Oh, I don't want to hear this story. But we met right before the pandemic. And then I was like, oh, I don't, or we met before that because you shot my show at the bootleg. But we did this podcast and I was like, I like this sarcastic motherfucker. and I want to be his friend. And I just started calling him my boyfriend out of nowhere.

And then things actually got really serious. Look at him. He's trying so hard not to. You were trying so hard not. Look at him. He's trying not to blush and smile. This piece of me. That's really sweet, you guys.

This is Midwestern steak. I really like this love story. Yeah. This is Midwestern steak. We over the pandemic are our. Bromance. Yeah, our bromance and our like both of our families. Our families, like, became really close, and we started playing a lot of code names over the pandemic.

So, like, remotely, we would stay up and it was like, oh, my God, these are our friends. These are our only friends that we get to see and, like, hang out with. We did Christmas in Texas with, like, two years ago. And so Martha and Natalie are close to. We're going to do an original. I mean, it's mostly us. Yeah. You guys are the.

Not Martha. Natalie. Oh, no. They like each other, though. Yeah. I hope so. But, I mean, like, the fireworks are clearly. The fireworks are clearly.

The fireworks are. We see. the sparks right now. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Clear what's happening here. Yeah. All right. Well, let's see you play.

It's hard to stop talking. All right. This is an old song. I've been redoing a lot of my old songs in that honky talk I was talking about. I love that. With Frank and my Texas band. Because just trying to rediscover the feelings of those songs and just kind of my life story and putting it all under my solo musician guy. tent too. So that's, yeah, that's why I've been playing these old ones again. Here you go.

Hold on to my hand. Never let go. Never let go. We were just two kids acting tough. Then we grew up. much all the other guys that you've seen are nothing compared to me because my love is strong and my heart is weak after all when we first met we spoke so brief You sing a sonnet, well, our home sweet relief. Do you recall the night? We took the ill out into Bushwick. Well, it was colder than hell. So maybe there you should have stopped, because I'm left here.

Feeling like a cop Because my love is strong And my heart is weak After all And to the other side Of the states returned I met a young girl Well I couldn't manage her

Because I think of you And every girl I meet There's no relief That sounds to me Just as sweet So maybe I'm the fool We're feeling you But the way

Yeah Sorry I'm loud Oh my god That was so beautiful Thanks My goodness That sounded so incredible It's amazing that

You can just do that How do you just do that? I was a very loud child. I don't think they all sing well just because they're loud, though. But it helps. Does it? Yeah. I'm just really extroverted and it's the problem.

No, it's actually really comforting. You have a fantastic voice. It's incredible and a really great personality to match it. Keep going. It's true. Like you're really good. I really feel good about you. Oh, thank you.

You're welcome. Shoot, man. You can leave here feeling really good today. You should feel good about yourself. So, I mean, that note you held, Jesus, so fucking powerful. It's just, I envy, like, what you can do. Same. Was that about Rob?

Yeah. Okay. They're all about Rob now. They're all about Rob. Yeah, I thought so. That sweet kiss we shared in Bushwick on that cold night. Do your kids show any signs of? Both of them.

take an interest in piano. Yeah. I've put Thor in almost every music video since he was little. And it's just a, it's just an excuse to finance a really artful family photo or video. You know, it's like just watching his phases come up from, you know, three to now eight. It's cool. Yeah. Does he sing?

Yeah, he sings. He's a goofball. They're both just little punkers, you know. Yeah. They're good. But they like piano. Thor's been picking out melodies and kind of, you know, doing that whole thing that they're surrounded by instruments and synthesizers and drums and guitars and all that stuff. What do they pick when they get to choose what they listen to, though?

Thor's favorite band right now is the Hives, which is a great riff rock 2000s band, you know, and I love that. Timo's favorite band is the Ramones, and that's just a no-brainer. That's a no-brainer. Yeah, he loves Blitzkriebop just so much. He listens to that song. And they both listen to my music a lot. But that's, I think, partly because they get to see themselves in the music videos, which is a good trick. Yeah, of course.

That's very exciting for children. Yeah, yeah. Oh, look how cool I look. Yeah. Well, Rob's always like, because Cal listens to what Rob listens to. His musical taste is, I was going to give a compliment. No, I thought my thought. Hold it in, Rachel.

Excellent. Calvin loves Delta Spirit too. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. He's never said that. Mostly the songs I don't write. It's on his list. He made a list the other week of like favorite music and bands.

Mm-hmm. You're in there. Nice. That's so cute. We want to see this list. Mm-hmm. Yeah. For recommendations.

Totally. My kids don't listen to the music I listen to. Cool. Is it? Yeah. I'm trying to think. My daughter asked me yesterday. She goes, Mom, can you put on one of your.

playlists. I want to hear what you're listening to. She's like, but like your main playlist. And I was like, how do you pick a main playlist? You know what I mean? You got to do your top inches, make one. Do your top hits. If you have a compilation of like top 10 all time favorites, right?

I feel like that you've for sure made that for every guy you've dated. Obviously. You have it. So they're like 20. Every year. No, but they're you know, I think that's kind of a good. And then when like inappropriate things come on, it goes over her head.

Oh, you don't change it. I mean, you change it or not? I don't actually. I don't either. Yeah. She's not, she doesn't, she knows what bad words are and she doesn't repeat them. And she doesn't, you know what I mean? Same.

Yeah. It's remarkable how well my, oh no. I'm sorry. My, my, my, my eight-year-old doesn't, he just, he hears me cuss like a pirate and then he doesn't repeat it. just knows that he can't use those words or shouldn't use those words. Yeah. Because he sounds like an idiot and just lets me sound like an idiot. Yeah.

So you know, leave that to dear old dad. Yeah. Yeah. I think they, you know, as long as, oh, you're, oh, don't get her started. My little one. Goes like this all day at school and goes there, you're all butt holes. And he'll be like. And he'll be like, what the fuck is going on in here?

Nice. And I'm like, we cannot get him to stop. She'd dress him like a mobster. Like when he talks like I could just picture that. Roll up up cards. He is a boss. Yeah. For sure.

Yeah. It's not that like it's not that big of a deal. He's five. Yeah. Yeah. I bet my team was going to do that. He's running around going like, I'm a bad guy. And also like he saw ghosts.

He's been, he, I let him watch Shark Week. And now he's like, there's blood in the water. You let him watch Shark Week? There's sharks in the ocean. Do you not? What are my talking about? They don't do anything on there. It's not like watching Jaws.

In my mind, I went Jaws. But he sees like sharks and he's like, oh, you can get eaten. Yeah. Against. Yeah. Shepard was scared at the beach yesterday. He was like, sharks. And we're like, no.

And then two dolphins come with the fins. He's like, sharks. Yeah. I'm like, no. Not quite. But whatever. I'm a little scared of sharks now after watching Shark Week. Shark Week?

Yeah. I love Shark Week. I do, too. Is it your favorite week? It happens around my birthday, July. So it just kind of marks the year for me. You're like, here we go. It was my favorite week.

I remember being a kid and staring at my like, staring at like that old school giant. Like we had like one of those old school vinyl textured like big screen TVs. And we just watch Shark Week and then go to the pool and have fun and go to the beach and try to find one. I'm not scared of sharks. I just don't, I don't feel that we belong in the ocean. But why? Because the ocean is like another world and they all live in it. That's their world.

I'm not saying I don't go in. You do. But I... What? You go in. I know. But I also like respect it in the sense of like we're not really supposed to be in. We come from the ocean.

Like all life comes from the ocean. Right? It's beautiful. Is that where it started? Yeah. I think I don't I don't see it as we're not supposed to be in it. I think we should. honor it and be respectful of it.

But I don't think it's our world. It's their world. That's my opinion. That's a nice opinion to have. Well, that's an opinion. It's an opinion. Hey. I love surfing so much.

Oh, you're a surfer. Yeah, yeah. So living in Texas, it's been hard. No, I respect it. That's super fun. I surf. Like, I've done it all. I do it all. Yeah.

I just have like this, you know. It's done it all. I've done it all of it. Yeah. I'm old. Yeah. I've accomplished a lot. I've done it all.

Yes, you have. We have all done it. All of it. Been in the ocean. But the whole submergent. Been in the ocean. I've swam with sharks. Really?

Yeah. I want to do that. You can do it. Was it scary? No. It wasn't. Was it a majestic experience? It was memorable, for sure.

But you know what you're swimming with. Yeah. Like. I hope so. No, but I mean. They're like, there's some great whites jump in. It's like, you know, just like reef sharks and nurse sharks and whatnot. Where did you do you?

do it. In Tahiti and in the Caribbean somewhere. So you did it twice? I've done it twice. Wow. I've no one was on accident. Like there were just nurse sharks like all over and then one was intentional. So you're like in a catch? Yeah. They're everywhere. They do that on purpose.

Yeah. Yeah. That's cool. Like it's intentional. I mean. You didn't love that? I didn't love the shark swimming by. Those kind of freaked me out a little bit. But I still went in the water. Yeah. Do you find that you're more risk averse now in your life?

Yeah, 100%. Totally. Yeah, because we have kids. There was a point I was going to, like, I wanted to go skydiving so bad. And now I'm totally good. Yeah. 100% same pages. Totally pass.

Yeah. Yeah. Well, I do think once you have kids, it just changes. Mm-hmm. Or you just get older and you're like, what the fuck was I thinking? I'm cool on the ground. Yeah. Yeah.

I started to like do some things this summer where I was like, I can still like use it or lose it, Matt. You know, one of them was I dropped into a bowl skateboarding, which I've done that. Oh, great. Totally fine. And then there's this beautiful municipal swimming pool that spring fed in Austin called Barton Springs. It's amazing. And I had been able to do a one and a half off that diving board when I was a kid.

I was like, I don't want to fucking do this. And I did it. No problems. It was great. And then the week before I left on this trip, that tree swing. I was talking about, I totally fell out of that tree. Oh, no. Like 15 feet.

No. Totally could have broken my back. That hurts. I fell out of a tree, through a tree, and landed in like a kitty pool worth of water. And I was like, I'm too old to be doing this shit. Yeah. I like. But you didn't get hurt?

No. Oh, no, I did. I was limping for like a week. I could have been really like really hurt for a long time. No, I have to say like. recently like I was at the lake or whatever and you were jumping off it was probably 20 feet or something into the water. I'm like yeah, of course I can do it. But I did it and after I was sort of got you guys. Oh no. I felt like such an old lady because I had gotten like water in my ears and up my nose and it was so painful.

Oh yeah. And I couldn't hear for like 24 hours. Oh no. I didn't like say my daughter because we were jumping off and whatever. I didn't want her to know like you could potentially they're going to be something negative about it. Oh, yeah, yeah. So you just kept it to yourself? Yeah. Yeah. I hurt so bad. You're like, what?

I'm fine. I was popping on, you know, trying to get it. Was it just air pressure, like, from dropping into the water? Yeah, like that hard and going down that far, you know. And I tried to do the scuba dive method, it all with shit. I also have chronic sinusitis. What's sinusitis? You guys, this is really, this is, yeah.

Do you have to get a surgery? No. Like to like, no, it's just chronic sinus stuff. Oh, yeah. Whenever she's tired, I'm like, are you sick? No, I'll just sneeze and sound sick. Yeah. If I don't sleep.

Oh, wow. We can really, you guys. This is aging. This is like, oh, well, I just got a pop now. Yeah, it's like, did you re-fi over the pandemic? Yeah. Did you? What hurts now?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway. It's a thing. But yeah, you do things that you did when you were younger and there are sometimes repercussions. There's a lot I can't do.

But like say, yeah, past 10. Y'all. So touring with kids to jump back to that and sleeping, it's like, it's really great to bring your kids on work trips just to show them the experience, but also like no sleep sucks. Oh. And in eight-year-old seminal experiences, but a three-year-old isn't just a waking nightmare. I'm just glad the Frosons and the headphones and stuff, but the traveling with kids, we're actually going to finish this tour and then we'll have a 24-hour turnaround before we go on our Norwegian vacation. We're actually going to chill.

But the travel. So you lived there. We lived in Oslo. And was it amazing? Because isn't that one of the countries that's supposed to be the happiest? Yeah, it's supposed to be the happiest. I think growing up, I grew up in both Dana Point, California, Orange County, and then Austin, Texas. So like half of those places.

Yeah. Both of those states are super diverse. All of America is so diverse. It's more exotic to be like from a homogenous culture. And I think Californians get really excited about like, oh, you're from this amazing place. And I am no exception to that. I love like homogene or whatever, like where everybody is kind of the same. And the Norwegians are great at, they pick the same potato chip.

Everybody eats the same potato chips and they're delicious potato chips. They're like kettle cooked. But are they just plain potato chips? They have like salted ones and then they have like another more seasoned option. Okay. But that's it. But that's it. I mean, there are other options, but everybody eats those.

They all celebrate Christmas the same way. And so it's just your usual, you know, most white bread Christmas ever. Okay. And it's really cozy because everybody's just kind of like, like all of the TV is just Christmas, Christmas, Christmas. And you just know that every single family is like doing it the same way, like getting really cozy. And it's like a whole week-long experience. And then they are starting to adopt that culture is starting to adopt things like Halloween. So Oslo Halloween, you're bringing your.

kids trick-or-treating, but they haven't, they never had like the fear aspect. So it's, it's a bowl of open candy unwrapped. Oh, unwrapped. So children are just like grabbing loose M&Ms. Wow. Wow. That's a lot of faith. That's a lot of trust. Yeah, that's cool. though. That's ivory. You're just so in rain like, there's, there's candy fentanyl on this, in this, you know, in this. We've had this. Yeah. Yeah. Olivia's on that train. She's scared of every piece of candy. I'm not wrapped. But I think it's only happened like twice in the U.S.

On accident, I think, as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's like if someone, it's like a dad doing it on purpose to this kid. Do you has one kid. Yeah. Is that what it was? Something like that. But neighbors aren't.

Neighbors aren't doing that. Oh, yeah. I know. The red. They can't eat Skittles anymore. No. Who can't eat skittles? There's a brand that makes it like the better version of it.

Well, there's a lot of things here. that are banned in other countries because it has food coloring. Yeah. Oh, really? Oh, yeah, Skittles. Yeah. In particular, one night there. Do you not get Briar Skittles?

I mean, she hasn't had him since I read that, I don't think. But they do have a version that's like made better. Calvin had them for the first time last week. They're delicious. I love a skittles. He loved it. It was at the Dr. Dog show. It was to bribe him to stay awake.

Oh, yeah. No, if you, look it, I think if you eat them sporadically and not a lot. You're okay. It's not like your kids are eating skittles every day. We used to just all smoke. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, trust.

And we lived into our 90s. Some of us, you know, crazy. Yeah, I know. All the things. So you probably survive skittles if you don't eat them every day. Yeah. They're like, what got her? Skittles.

Yeah. It was the skittles. Not the lead. Not the three-packed cigarette today. All these things. Like now I'm like, we're only getting glass water bottles. Oh, no, it's all a thing. Everything.

Yeah. We don't need to bore you with that. We could. I'm not being bored. Because we could, yeah, we're like, what's in your kids lunchbox? Microplastics. Do you guys have the cool? Oh, yeah, micoplastics.

Do we have the cool what? Do you guys have those cool metal lunch boxes? Of course, the planet box. Yeah, the planet boxes are so awesome. You know why I love it though? Why? Because I have a Virgo brain and I love the little compartments to organize the lunch. It brings me joy.

Yeah. I'm a real. get down like that. A real wild one. You want to do one more real quick? Yeah, let me do one more. You know, this song, it's called Friends. It's for you, Rob.

My favorite person on this show. You guys are close second. Tide for a second. We accept. Yeah, okay. Remember the first time that we got acquainted. You fell out of my window. I hadn't laughed like that in ages.

folding out of histories Finding all the common stages It's how it is Friends like this I meant together And you know the reason For every lyric that I wrote The counting cadence

And the rhythm schemes that you like I'd give it all to you If you ever had the time It's how it is Friends like this I meant together The look you gave that saved My forgotten words

And all the moments said we took it on the line You were always there for me Even when I lost my mind It's how it is Friends like this are men together. There you go. Thanks, guys. Thank you.

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