Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - Saraya on Wrestling Family, Drug Abuse, and The Rock

Episode Date: June 17, 2024

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Hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. You guys, Saraya is with us today, but she was formerly known as Page, okay, with the WWE. She is now an AEW professional wrestler. I don't want to get the letters wrong. The movie Fighting with My Family was based on her.

I know. She's honestly amazing. She's the shit. love her. She is. Yeah. Am I allowed to say that? Am I allowed to cast on the podcast? Hi, welcome to prod ideas. She's with this wrestling league.

Olivia actually went with the boys. Yep. I'll tell you all about it. Stick around until after our interview with Soraya. Thanks. All these thoughts are swirling Round and round inside To join us on this journey As we take a little ride We'll talk about dogs and kids and things

We'll talk about chicks and tampon strings We'll talk about boys Because people die We're so happy that you're here So again, thank you Yeah, thanks for having I'm excited to get to know you and talk to you Yeah

I'm so fascinated by your whole world. Like, you know, all of it. I mean, wrestling. Like, I don't know. It's like nine lives going on over here. Yeah. Everyone's always shocks by the wrestling side of things. So people who don't watch wrestling, you're like, what do you do?

Yeah. I'm a wrestler and they're like, what the fuck? Like, you wrestle because they expect women to be like giant, like, you know, beautiful, mussely women. Yeah. But, like, I'm like, I'm actually one of the biggest ones. Everyone's very tiny from where we're. Is that right? Yeah, yeah.

I'm actually quite tall for a lot of the girls because they're all a lot smaller and a lot more petite. So I do a lot of the catching and stuff like that. Well, they fly around. But yeah, people are always shocked who never watch it. They're just like, I don't believe you. Or they're like, is that some weird sexual thing? No, I know. Like, it's not.

It's wrestling. It's so funny. I watched fighting with my family last night. Yeah, yeah. Obsessed. Do you know Florence just nail it? She's so fantastic. So, so incredible.

Everyone in it was incredible. I cried so many times. So, like, I wasn't expecting that. I was like, okay, what is this? And then, like, watching, I came out to my brother because he's staying with me and he's really mussely. And I was like, David, fuck, we missed our calling. Like, we were 1,000 percent supposed to be wrestlers. And he was like, Olivia, no, you were.

Well, actually, since you watched it, because I was like, my brother never really got a chance, you know? I can't. But he made it this year. He made it. He finally made it. Yeah, yeah. He's in AEW with me. You know, I was in WW for a long time.

I never signed him. But I've been with AEW for the past, like, year and a half, two years. Yeah. And my boss was just like, I would love to have your brother as part of this company. Do you think he would want to? I was like, absolutely. He's been trying for bloody years. Yeah.

Oh, my God. So he finally got signed. He's finally, you know, his name was. up and lights and stuff and it's really like really cool to see and his family, his wife and he has three kids now moving over here in September. So he's in and out right now. He does three weeks on, two weeks off. So he flies back to the UK for two weeks and then comes back. So oh my goodness. Yeah. The schedule for him is a little crazy but once I moved over here, it'll be fine. Oh my God, it killed me. I'm so glad to hear that. It was really hard to go through that

experience with you guys and it there was a moment in the movie and tell me if this was real i don't think it's giving anything away because you just said it where you basically had to explain to him i didn't steal your dream it was my dream too yeah and like what that must have been like i i can't imagine the pain on the other side of that as well right right because with zach he He's always wanted to wrestle. When I was younger, I fought against it. And I was like, I want to be a vet. I want to do something with animals. I love animals. I have a zoo at home currently. What? Oh, yeah, I have birds, ducks, dog. I have everything. But that's what I wanted to be when I was a kid. I was like, anything with animals, that's what I want to do? And my parents all wrestle. So we're like, you need to be a wrestler. I'm like, no, it's very stubborn. We're very stubborn. We're very stubborn. As women, we're very stubborn. But Zach has just always loved wrestling. He could name, like I said of the movie, he could name a wrestler just from his wrestling boots. Like, if he just, he saw their boots, he'd be like, oh, my gosh, that's storm cold. That's, you know, Brett the Hitman Heart. He was so good.

He was a wrestling in the Zygopedia. So he did feel a little frustrated that his sister, who didn't want to do it up until she was 13. Because at 13, I was like, okay, like, my dad threw me into a match and was like, but I wrestled my brother, Zach, too. He dressed up as a pink power ranger because I was nervous. And so he protected me. He was like, oh, wrestle, you? I'll just tend to be a girl.

Put a mask on and stuff. No, I'm here. Yeah, I know. He's a place. I'm very lucky, dad. have him as a brother, but he took care of me in my first match, and I fell in love with it. I was like, okay, I have to wrestle, right? So then I started, once I got really into WWU, which is my brother's thing, he would

constantly put in VHS videos, and we'd watch a lot of wrestling, and he would teach me about all the wrestlers, and then he would get me in the ring and teach me everything I needed to know about wrestling, too. And so he was there from the very beginning, and then I was like, I want to be a WBWA. That's why I want to be. And that was the only company at the time. Now there's multiple companies, which is great. But at the time, it was just WWE where you'd be a success in wrestling.

And I was like, I want to be a diva so bad. They look so glamorous and beautiful. You get paid good. And I was like, that's what I want to do. If I want to be a success in wrestling, you have to be there. So I remember sending out resumes to, like, just independent wrestling companies. So they would get, like, 200 people in. It was just very small.

And I got turned down from a couple just because I was a female. And I was like, you regret that. You regret it? Yeah. You know? And so I just kept putting resumes out there and I started traveling the world by the time I was 14, by myself. What? So I was going to Turkey, Spain.

I was going to Belgium. I was going, even America. I came over to go to Chicago with my mom then. We was a tag team when we came over to America. But yeah, I was constantly traveling the world. My dad would be like, where are you this weekend, sweet, you know? And I'd be like, oh, I'm in like Italy or whatever it is. But it was just, I was just doing it by myself.

and I loved it. I absolutely loved it. So then I had, my dad's friend was a scout for the WWE, and he told me that he's not going to give me the opportunity in this. I earn it, and if I'm good enough, you know, so it took years for him to give me a tryout. He gave me a tryout, and WWE came over and did a tour in England, so it was like 2011, and I did the tryout. I was 18 at the time, I did the tryout, and they were just like, no. No. And like, there was a guy at the time that worked as TR that pretty much said I wasn't pretty enough to be there too, which broke my heart. You know, I was like this little girl. Are you kidding me? Yeah, it doesn't work there anymore. He hasn't worked there for years. But he said, you know, I wasn't pretty enough to be there.

And I needed to, you know, lose some baby weight and all that kind of stuff. I was a kid, you know. And I was like, oh, that's kind of hard to deal with. And I tried to dress like how I thought a divot dress, right? So I wore color. I wore, like, my hair was lighter. I took my piercings out. I had like lip rings and gauges and stuff. And I took them all out because I was like, no, I have to be a diva. Like, you know. And so I felt like he saw right through that. And I wasn't being myself.

So maybe I wasn't the most beautiful version of myself, you know, because I was trying to be something I wasn't. Right. So then I came back like six months later and I was like, fuck them. If they can't take me like, can I swear on here? Oh, all day. Oh, okay. No, no, no, no.

You are. Okay. Okay. Okay. Okay. If you said in the movie, you know my family history with cussing. But yeah. I love it.

I just wore. all black. I wore all black. I kept my piercings in. I had all black hair and I had like a little blonde piece right here and, you know, I think I have a picture somewhere of it. And my brother did these tryouts with me too. And we were all in the ring and I was the only female that was in this tryout. And it was in the middle of the ring for Smackdown before the doors opened. And so all the talent, all the main roster talent, I'm talking about like, Edge, Rand Dior and all these massive names were around the ring just watching us, you know? And I was like, oh gosh. And I was still like 18 and about to turn 19, right? And I was like, oh my gosh. But I got in there and

Gold Dust, which is an old school wrestler, you know, and this other wrestler, Jamie Noble, were running the ship, right? Yeah. So we had to tag in and out. And then there was this big massive jacked guy. And he was like in the ring with this other guy. And Dustin came up to me, Gold Dust. He was like, tag yourself in. And I was like, oh, that's like a big taboo. Like, you can't just take someone's moment, you know. But I was like, fuck it. You know, so I tagged myself in. He turned around. He looked at me. He was like, what the fuck? You know? And I was like, I was like, ah, he told me to do it. Like, I'm, you know.

So I jump in the ring, and then we get my brother in, and me and Zach were in the match for, like, three quarters of the tryout. It was like, they just kept wanting us to do all these moves. And then Goldust was like, now beat up your sister. Make us sell. Sell is when you, like, when you're hurt, you know, like, ow, out, you know. And so Zach would just throw me all over the place, and they loved it. They really loved it.

And then by the end of the tryout, you know, mostly guys wasn't able to get in, which sucked for them. Yeah. Like, I was like, I'm taking my opportunity. I'm not overkill here. I'm fucking going to showboat right now. I don't care, you know. Yeah.

And so, because the men weren't tagging me in either. Like, they weren't giving me an opportunity to showboat or do my thing. So I was like, I'm just going to taking it. Yeah. And so, like, afterwards, you know, Dustin comes up to me. He's like, you did a great job. He was like, but you could change these things. And he was like, oh, my God, this is the coolest fucking thing.

I love you. You know, you're like such a legend in wrestling. And then we get told by the end of it. He was like, I mean, only two of us got signed and I was that only girl. So they were just like, you and then nobody else, right? And I was just like, oh, fuck. And then I just see Zach's heart, right? I can't.

It's awful. It's awful. Because in the movie, you don't see that he had like about 10 different tryouts and he just couldn't make it. They just, and they would use them for, you know, we call him like squash matches where he'd go in and he'd wrestle someone like the big show and he'd get beaten up in like seconds, you know, on TV. So it was like, he was just very deflated.

and they were just like, you need to put muscle on, you need to lose weight, you need to do this. And so it was constantly, the goalposts were constantly moving for him. And he never like, he was like, what do I do? Like, but he never gave up, which is really wonderful. It gives me chills, think about it. He's like so inspiring. I can't know. It's like heart wrenching.

Yeah. I've been over here 12 years and he finally made it. I never gave up. You never gave up. Never gave up. That gives me a child on the podcast. He does. Oh my gosh.

I am crying. I'm not kidding. I cried. this guy got my heart because I like got it I was like I know that feeling and like he just kept taking it on the chin

which was tough he ended up in a wheelchair you know because of his depression he got so down and was drinking I know it's gonna make me tear up to it because my brother's such a wonderful human and he just deserves the world

you'll never see him argue with people and he constantly like takes criticism and he's like okay I can be better right but he just never gave up And I said that his story in the wrestling world is the biggest underdog story I've ever heard about. And so it's good for his kids too. I need to show you this video of him finally getting home to his kids. And they were just like, I'll send you guys the video.

So you can post it with this. Yes, yes. But he just never gave up. And it's just so inspiring. And now he's here with me. And now he's thriving. And people know how good he is. And it's kind of like an uphill battle again for him because people are like,

you already got signed because of who your sister is. And I'm just like, no, he did it. You're like, no, it took him 12 years. I didn't get him here. Like, overnight. It wasn't like a sign him right now. No. Like, it took time.

And like, and he just is so non-confrontational to him. He's like, how do I talk to people that mean to me on Twitter? I was like, don't. Yes. Because I do. And it just doesn't go right. I'm like, just ignore him. Like, only post your success.

That's it. Like, don't. Yeah. It's going to piss them off evil way. But just don't stoop to their level, right? And it's bad coming from me because I talk shit to everyone. everybody. I'm the worst person to have a lot of followers. I'm just like, fuck you, fuck you, you know. But you're shepherding him in. Yeah. Yeah. She had to do that with him. You know,

but you do. You have to like, those kind of things, especially for anyone who's dealt with any form, I'm sober, like I know alcoholism and all of that kind of stuff, anyone who's dealt with any of those kind of things to be exposed in those ways can be really damaging. So you got exposed for your alcohol? No, no, no. I'm saying I got exposed to the public by being on this. Oh, okay. And then all of a sudden you're dealing with people being mean to you or this.

And they don't know you at all. No. But when you have those kind of like addictive personalities or anything like what Zach went through, it's like you're opening, he's opening himself. up to a whole new world. Yeah. And luckily he's in like a good mental, like his mental health is at his best. Good.

But a few years ago, it probably wouldn't have worked out like that. Like he had put on so much weight, you know, and like he was just drinking because it's all like bare weight and stuff like that. But he got so depressed. It was very tough for his wife and kids to see, of course, my family to watch. But he's with his wife and kids more than he is with our parents. So there's a lot for her to deal with. Like she had to like kind of like carry the world for him while he was like just at his

lowest. And he ended up in a wheelchair because he just, it's weird that what your mind and your brain does to you, right? Where his body just couldn't function. He was just like, I can't go about my life. Like, he's just got that down and depressed. And he deals with it, like, wonderfully now, but I got him into therapy, right? So I spoke to three therapists, like, because I went for a stage of depression. Because, again, you get thrown into this world, right?

Where people, like, want to know what you're doing and, like, they'll put, like, your wrong, doings out there in like a big way, you know, and I had alcoholism, drug addiction and stuff like that. I've been sober for six years. But they're sober, yeah, yeah, yeah, sober sisters. But that's the thing that they put out there and they don't ever put anything that's positive. And, you know, I had like videos of myself when I was 19, sexual videos put out there by an ex, you know, and so they use that too. And they still use that today. They'd be like, uh, sex tape victim does something really nice to charity. But you're just like, why we're doing it? Like, just fucking, it's British media that does that mostly. But you know how the British media can be.

That fuck is. But yeah, so, like, I learned from that a lot. And so, like, that's why I'm trying to help Zach with, because I'm just like, listen, eventually they're going to dig up, you know, whatever or. And he doesn't have skeletons, which is fine, but he, like, did have an episode of drinking and, you know, like, he had, you know, all these different things. I'm like, the wonderful thing that you should do, though, is be open about it. Lead with it. Yeah. You can't like, yeah, get ahead. Yeah. I lead with it every time. I'm just like, yeah, I had that and you can help so many people with that kind of shit, you know. Yeah. And so, yeah, he's kind of getting used to it now. But he was like, I just like, I just got like, I just got like, I just got, great. He's like, I don't know what to do

with this. He's like, I'm nearly a 50K on Instagram. It's awesome, bro. Because he posted a video of him returning to his kids after like six months. Stop it. After six months. Is the saddest, well, it's the saddest that the sweetest shit you've ever seen, right? So he knocks on the door and surprises them because our boss was like, well, Surrey's not going to be here for the next two weeks because she has media, right? And he's doing stuff with me. So he was like, just go home. So he was going home two weeks early.

And so he surprised them. His wife knew. And he surprised the kids. You know, they open the door and they're like, and they just burst into tears. And it was just like, it was so bloody sweet. But it went viral. Like this video went viral. everywhere.

I'll have to show you guys. I can show you right now. It's just the sweetest friggin' nugget ever. How old are kids? So the 11, Caden's 11, Devin is 9. I should know this by now, and then Jada is three. Oh. So this is the video.

Oh, my God. Hi. You're right? Oh my God. Oh my God. I come my eyes. I'm crying. I'm from my money.

You have to post that. Like, just so people can see the shit that wrestlers have to deal with. I know. It made me cry my eyes out. Oh, my God. Family is filled with so much heart. Yes.

Like, if that movie touched on it, like, if that's accurate. That's, like, downplayed. Good. Yes. Like, the way in my... It's too much, right? I said, I said my family, like,

they have to keep it PG. you know, at least PG enough, right? Yeah. So when Stephen was going over there, he was like, I just followed your parents around with a notepad and the script kind of just wrote himself like, he just like, Dera, they're fucking mine. But he had to tone it down.

So a lot of the words that they were saying they couldn't use, they're absolutely bash you crazy and they're all very supportive of one another. It's really wonderful. What was it, fuck me dead and bury me pregnant? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's like the same version of what they say that. They're absolutely bad shit crazy.

My mom's dad love each other. They've been together for a long fucking time. They've had their ups and down. You know. Yeah. My mom even went missing for six months. What you mean? Gone missing.

How old were you? Excuse me? 13 and 14 years old, me and Zach. And so we, like, she, so a lot of my family suffer with really bad mental health, right? It happens. Yeah, it does happen. I have a brother that's in, like, within the, the, in a hospital where he stays, you know. And then I have my sister, my other brothers, you know, a lot of people, there's bipolar within

the family that is just like, you know, it's difficult. We have bad mental health. Is it the brother that was in an out of? jail? Roy, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, and he, he bless his heart. He's been sober for a long time now, which is good, staying out of trouble, which I love. I'll text him every single day, but I'm like, stay out of fucking trouble. Because he pretty much raised me too. He's wonderful, right? Yeah. I wish, like, tells you about my family with a big heart. I cut my hair when I was a kid and it was like too short and my, and I've used, my dad always wanted me to have long hair.

And I went to this hairdress at the first time by myself. And I was like, can I just get like some short layers and she misinterpreted it for cut my hair off right so he was really short and I was like and I was a kid right I'd had to be like eight or nine years old right and back then like in in the 90s or whatever like you could go around to the shop and your parents be absolutely fine you know like yeah do whatever you need to do you know yeah and so like I went to the hairdressers around the corner and then um and then I came back and my dad was like where's your hair gone and he was just like he was messing with me but I was like I don't know like I was freaking I was like I told him this you know

And he was like, I'm going to call your brother Roy, right? Roy, I love Roy so much. Oh, my God. He raised me because my parents would travel so much that boy was running. He got my ears piss when I was a baby, you know? He would take me everywhere. I was like his princess, right? And he goes, he called me and he was just like, I'm so disappointed, Siria.

And I was like, oh, and I cried my eyes out. And I ran up my room. Anyway, he didn't have a car. So he walked seven miles to come and give me a hug and be like, it's okay. I'm sorry. I didn't mean to make you feel sad. Then you turn around and walked home. No.

Oh my God. Just because he made me cry. Oh my God. So we have a great family. I love your family. No. Support for broad ideas comes from Talkspace. Therapy, honestly, changed my life.

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Because, you know, my dad did put the phone down a few times. He was like, I don't fucking believe this, right? My dad raised me like that, though. He was like, don't get your hopes up, you know, because anything can fall through like that, you know. So I try not to get my hopes up about anything, right? Right. So unless you have it in writing.

I was even when in writing, sometimes you have to be like, well, fuck, that fell free still, you know. Yeah. But, yeah, when it comes to the movie, I remember I was, I didn't make the main roster yet. I was just in their developmental system, right? Okay. And there's a big event that they have called WrestleMania, and it's like they take over the town, right? It's like 100,000 people there just for the show. Millions watching it on TV, right?

It's massive. It's like our Super Bowl, right? Yes. And so, like, they brought up people from the developmental system to be a part of it and, you know, do sign-ins, do like these little small wrestling matches at the Access, which is our, like, our Comic-Con for wrestling. We did a lot of matches there. And, yeah, I got a text on my phone as I was in Kansas. and watching the big show, you know, and it was like, hey, it's DJ. I would love to speak to at some point. Like, whenever you're ready, I'm like, who the fuck is DJ? How the fuck do you get

my number? Like, why is he texting me? And like, this old school wrestler called Dean Malenko was like, that's Dwayne Johnson. And I was just like, oh, right away. Yeah. I was like, how do you get my nose? It's crazy. I was like, oh, yeah, no problem. I'm trying to act cool. Oh, you know? I was like, you know, be a deal, DJ. I'll be right there, you know. And like someone, like his manager or assistant or whatever came and got me because Dean was like, yeah, that's Drain Jones, you fucking idiot. And I was like, oh shit, what do I do? You know, like, what does he want? You know?

And so I get taken to his locker room and I was like, this is weird. What am I doing here, you know? And he told everyone to leave. And he was like, hey, I'm DJ. And I'm like, yeah. You are. No, yeah. Yeah, I didn't realize I could give you a nickname.

But yeah, this is fun cool. So he was just like, yeah, I was in England and I was filming Fast and Furious. And I couldn't sleep one night. and I stumbled across your family's documentary called Fighting With My Family, which you can watch that on YouTube. That's just the movie based on that, right? Right. So then I was like, oh, yeah.

I was like, did you like it? You know, and he was like, I absolutely fell in love with your family. And he was like reminds me of my family. You guys are just very close and you love each other and you're passionate about wrestling, right? And I was like, yeah, yeah. He's like, so we're going to make a movie on it? And I was like, oh, fuck. I was like, what?

No way. And I was like, this can't be real. You know, I'm 21 at the time, too. Wow. Yeah, so I'm like, usually people die before they get a movie about their life. I'm like, am I dead? So I was like, oh, thank you. Like, I don't know what to say.

This is awesome. And then he was like, and I have something else to tell you too. And I was like, what the fuck else is good to be? You know, this is awesome. He was like, you're going to be debuting on the main roster, right? And you're going to win the Divas Championship. And I was like, I can't handle it. I just have my whole body.

I can chill thinking about. So I'm like, that's my dream. Like, my dream is about to come true, right? Yeah. Like I made it finally. I'm getting to be a diva. I'm going to be a divas champion. And like the space of 24 hours as well as having a movie about my life.

But then he was like, but don't tell anyone about this. And I was like, how do I walk out with her? And like with all this information. And he was just like, I just want to say good luck. And I'm so proud of you. But he was like, I felt like I had to tell you about this divas championship because I feel like, I know you from this documentary, you know? And I was like, fuck.

I was like, wow, you just changed my life completely, right? Completely. So I'm like, thank you. And I'm like, snop bubbles everywhere trying to wipe everything. You know, fucking eyelashes on my forehead. I walk out. His cousin, Tamina, she's another female wrestler within the WWE.

She's walking in and as I was walking out. So I'm like bumping into her and I'm like sobbing. And she was like, what are you doing in there? Like, she was like very suspicious. I was like, I'm just a really big fan of Dwayne. Like, I don't know what else to say. So I kind of just like walk away and I call my parents straight away. I'm like, you cannot say anything.

You know. Yeah. And I was like, I'll believe it when I fucking see you. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so it took a couple of years for things to get going, you know. You guys know how it takes a while. But then Stephen Merchant hops on and he was just like, I want to write. Sorry, I keep whacking this.

I want to write and direct it. And I was like, fuck, yeah. So he came and he met me and he called me every day after that. That's so cool. He's fucking awesome. I love that tall giant man. He's fucking awesome. He's so funny.

And then he was like, oh, we're doing the casting. And I didn't actually get to meet Florence at the time. It was after the movie was made. I got to meet her because I just had a neck surgery. my first neck surgery, so I couldn't fly anywhere, and they were filming most of it in the UK. But he went over to the UK, was in my dad's wrestling gym with him, and he was just writing everything down and getting in the ring and actually wrestling. Oh, wow.

And then Florence and Jack did the wrestling too. They actually got in and did it, and they were like, this is really difficult. I was like, yeah, it sucks. Yeah. It sucks or your body. Like, it fucking hurts, you know. Yeah. And so it's like people always think at wrestling is, like, easy until, like, you get in there

and do it. And it fucking. I wouldn't think it's easy. I think it's easy. It doesn't look easy. A lot of people you'd be surprised would be like, well, how hard can wrestling be in? I'm like, oh, it's hard because it hurts as well.

Your body turns into one big callous after a few years, you know, and then you can't really feel it as much, but it's painful. But they did it, and they killed it, and then you have Lena Heady from Game of Thrones in it. And you had Vince Bourne and Nick Frost, and I was like, oh, my God, like, this is great. And then MGM, like, jumped in, and then you had Lionsgate jump in. And I was like, what is happening?

This was supposed to be, like, a small indie movie, but, like, you know, they read the screen. and they were like, this is awesome, we want to buy it. And it hadn't even started production properly yet until, you know, so they really believed in it. And it was awesome. And then it finally came out in 2019. And it actually went for a stage where it nearly didn't come out because of me. Why?

Because I was going for a stage where it was like drugs and alcohol. And I just had neck surgery and I was in a relationship that wasn't the healthiest for me. And it was just a really bad time. And then those videos came out and I just hit rock bottom. I was really bad. I remember taking pills on FaceTime with my mom and stuff like that. I kind of traumatized her. I'm sorry, I'm not for doing that to you.

But I was just in a really, really bad place. I thought that was it. Like, I'm like, this is done. And then they were so worried for me, they thought I was going to die. Of course. You could have. I could have, 100%. Yeah, I end up in hospital a lot of times.

Going to England, I end up in hospital, and America, end up in hospital. It was a really bad time. And then some, like, one day you just switch, like flips. And then you just like, something needs to change. you know. And so like I came back to WWE and you know they got me healthy and they got me three different therapists a week which I thank God I had them you know they're amazing. I fucking loved every single one of my therapists. They're amazing. And so yeah they got me healthy and happy and then the movie continued and then it came out in 2019 and then we got to go to sundance and got to

do all these wonderful things. Yeah and I got to do media in the UK with my family. So you know there was fans everywhere, like outside, you know, like behind, you know, the barricades and stuff. And my dad and my mom have just loved it because they're all yelling their name. And, you know, my dad was like a big, like, the big star of the movie. I feel like my dad kind of like shined in that movie. And so everyone was just freaking out over there. And my dad's like, this is awesome, you know. And what's really funny about my dad too is he fought, he was like, Nick Frost.

He wasn't familiar with Nick Frost. So he was all so he was like, oh, I think you could do a good job with me. You know, way. He wanted, I can't remember who he wanted, like, some other old school kind of actor. I can't remember. I have to ask him, but I was like, no, trust me. Nick Frost is fucking awesome. I was a big fan of Shawna the Dead and Hot Fuzz and stuff.

I was like, he's going to kill it. So he did it and he killed it. Nailed my dad completely to a T. And then they met each other. And my dad's like, you know, man. You know, and he gives him a big hug and he just does my dad so much justice. And, like, it was just really cool. Leader of my mom, exactly the same.

Really? Really? They're really similar, too. So when we did media, I brought my mom and my brother to do New York media with me. And Lena was doing some with us, too. And just those two together, like the way, like just their personalities outside of the movie. She was so similar to my mom. It was weird.

They were talking about poo and shit like that. And I was like, oh, you guys are perfect for each other. Yeah. It was really cool. So they nailed the casting. They nailed it and they nailed the movie. I feel like their casting was insane. It was so, you guys each stood out.

Each one of you And like Yeah I feel like When they make movies About people's lives They lean in a lot of their times To the drama

Or the negativity Or they over exaggerate But nobody looked like an asshole Everybody got your heart Yeah They did such a good Character you're like I love them

Yeah There was no There was no villains in that I feel like Stephen Did such a good job With the writing aspect of it Because he was like You know

Of course There's gonna be a little bit A little bit more Razzle dazzle Dazzle in some spots Right Of course But like

most of it, I would say like 85, 90% of it is, is pretty accurate. Like, he's very, like, he was very attentive to the details. So he would call me and be like, well, how did you feel in this moment? And what was said in this moment, I'm trying to remember every detail. It's really fucking difficult. You're like, yeah. I don't know, like, you know, like this. But he nailed it. And he just made us look like superstars. Like, you know, and like, again, Florence killed it. You know, she was fantastic. Her first day, which is crazy. She texts me. Uh, her. Her first scene was her walking out in front of like 20,000 people at the Staples Center, what used to be the Staples Center.

She was like, that was her first day of filming and she had to walk out in front of this live audience. She was like, how do you get free of this? I was like, pretend they're not there. You have to not pretend they just focus on the ring, focus on the person that's in the ring. And so she got in there and did like a live promo. And then they had to do this wrestling match, which was the end of the movie match, right? And so like, and then there was a stunt wrestler. So, you know, Thia had to, like, switch out with Tessa, her name was Tessa Blankard, right?

And she had to go in and do, like, the move and stuff. It was, like, very, like, oh, Tessa was pretending to be me, sorry. So Florence had to switch with her. It was, like, very weird, and the fans were really weird, but luckily Dwayne was there, and he was hyping the crowd up, you know? Oh, that'll get him going to go on. Yeah. He was, like, stick around because we're going to be doing this, and he made sure that no one was taught. Because, like, rest of fans could be a little caty, you know?

They just, like, they could be, like, a little mean sometimes. They like to, it's part of the. play, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, like, he's trying to get them not to be, like, too crazy, but to, like, cheer and boo when they're supposed to, you know, for the movies's sake, guys, please behave yourselves, you know. Right. But they, she did a great job. I was like, you nailed it. For your first day of filming, you're, like, walking out in front of 20,000 people, like, having to deliver your lines like that? That's scary, I feel like. It's like doing. Yeah, and then pretend to wrestle on top of that? You're like, oh, my gosh, like, yeah,

I would be terrified. I was like, I couldn't do what you did. I can do it because that's my job. I was going to say, but what you do is, I've had years of experience doing it, though, right? But I'm just saying, like, for a movie, right? So if I did a movie and you guys will like, you guys would be fine because you'd be like, okay, I've done this a billion times, right? I can go out there and do my thing. That's like a whole different ballgame to me. I'm like, I can go out there and I can do moves and stuff like that.

And if you give, like, there's little scripts here and there, but it's not like acting like that, you know. So I would shit my pants if I was like, okay, I have to go do what you guys do and then try and deliver it the way you guys would deliver it, that's terrified to me. I couldn't do it. So it's like, yeah, you guys are like... I don't know, but I just, my whole mind, like, when I go to wrestling and I think about, like, the choreography, like, it's all, you know, you have to know exactly what you're doing, right? Is anything on the fly? Like, yeah. It is. Yeah, because sometimes times will change. So you're like live in the ring and they're just like, okay, we have 10 to 12 minutes, right,

for this match, including entrances and exit, so, like, it's a whole package, right? And then you'll begin there and they'll be like, oh, the time, because live TV shit changes all the time. So they're just like, we're cutting three minutes, so you have to improvise. Or, but like, we're adding three minutes. So you're like, well, what the fuck now we have to add? Subtracting's a lot easier than adding for sure. So, like, you're constantly, you get used to it, for sure. And then when it comes to promos, I remember this one time, Vince was like, you and AJ, which is the girlfriend the movie, right? Me and AJ, I had to do this love letter to her,

and it was like, Rosa Red, Woodchips of Bay. I still remember, actually. It was a long time ago. It was Rosa Red, Woodchips of Bage. I'm sorry, I pushed you off of this stage. It's not that I hate you. I like you a bunch, but you just have this face that I want to punch.

Something like... I want to write that love poem. I want to wrestle. I can't remember. Actually, I say I remember. I can't remember it. Something, something, this part is vital. I be skipping my way at a SummerSlam

with my Diva's time. title, right? So I just lost it and I was going against AJ to try and win it back again. But she, so he gave me this card and he was just like, yeah, I want you to take out and I want you to read it in front of everybody. So I'm like, okay. And then as I was about to walk out, he took the card away and he was just like, actually just do it from memory. And I was like, I was like, oh, fuck. And so I learned it luckily throughout the day. Like they gave it to me early enough for me to be like, I'm just going to keep reading this just in case. Because you never know with this fucking company. They'll take shit away and be like just, you know.

And luckily I did it because he took it. And then my music's playing, I'm like, oh, fuck, okay. And I walk out. And then I did it, and it's fine. But you have to improvise for that live TV all the time. And then you only get one tape. You know, you have to make sure it's fucking good. Live is scary.

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And do you, so you always know who's going to win? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hate to, like, you know, fans are always like, you have to keep K-Fab. And, like, K-Fab is, like, keep the, the, what's the word? Keep that image of, like, realness. Yeah. Yeah.

But, I mean, we're all grown up. Who decides? Who's going to win? A boss would decide. And then if he has writers, then they help decide. It depends on where the storyline is going. And, like, and sometimes it can depend on how the crowd is reacting to you, you know. And sometimes they don't tell you until very last minute, too.

Like when I did, I did just at Wembley recently. It was the first AW big massive show. It was like 82,000 people in attendance in England. And it was like my first time doing this in front of my home country, right? I got to walk out with my family again. So that's another story, but that was fucking awesome. Got to walk out with them. Yeah, they got to experience it.

But yeah, you know, we were planning this match and there was four of us in the ring. It was a four way. So we're all in the ring at the same time. And it's one of the hardest matches to put together because you have to make sure that one body's out the way for you do another thing, yeah. And so we were there for a couple of days where we were planning it, and we didn't know what the finish was, right? So we were just like, okay, if it's you, this is going to be the finish,

if it's you, you know, if you're you. And then Tony comes in last minute because Tony also owns Fulham Football Club and the Jaguars NFL team. So he was at a Fulham game and like flew in, like, you know, like last second as we were like about to leave because the show was the next day. And he was like, oh, you're going over, you're going to win. And I cried because with championships, you're like, yes, it's like predetermined, right?

But they're trusting you to be the face of that company. But I never thought I would be in this position again because I retired for five years because my neck was fucked up. Right. And they said I would never wrestle again. And here I am. Yeah, I got told I would never wrestle again. So here I am back and I'm in England and now I'm going to be the champ again. And I just cried my eyes out.

And I was like, you don't realize what you're doing for me right now. Like, this is just, I never thought I would be in this position. It doesn't matter if I'm getting the championship or not. Like, I just have, like, I just never thought I would do this ever again. And so, but with the neck, I had the first surgery, came back. And within two months, I got kicked in the back of my neck. And I was fully paralyzed for like five minutes, just for like five minutes in front of a live crowd, which you can see on YouTube. It was just kicked in the back.

And it looked not crazy, but it's weird how it was. It was. Yeah. And it was right at the perfect spot. And I tried to continue. and tried to like not like yeah i'm losing like fucking feeling in my body right but i'm like no no no keep going keep going so like you know i'm with sasha banks now what called mercedes right and i'm trying to like grab her feet and i'm like i can't feel my arms and she's just looking up at me being

like are you okay and i'm like i can't feel anything and then i lost my legs and then i just fell down on my back and i'm like oh no like i just got back this is real this is real and like oh it was just it was awful and there was like it was a tag match so i had two girls on one side and then another two girls in the other side and then us two in the ring. So like, we're all friends. So they're looking at me like, no, like what's happening? And I'm just like laying there. And I didn't cry at that moment. I thought I would. But I was just like, I'm never going to wrestle again. I had that in my head. I'm like, this is it. This is done. Like I can't feel my body. So the referee froze up the X, right? And then they come down with like

a, with like a bed, one of those beds. Gurney thing. Yeah. And so I say like, I don't want to get on that. I want to be able to walk out. Just give me a couple of minutes. I'm sure my feeling will come back. And luckily it did. Like I started getting the pins and needles in my body and then it started coming back. And I was like, oh my gosh. And then I sat up and the crowd all started clapping because it's weird for the crowd. They just saw someone get hurt and then just lay in the ring. So they're all just like, oh, fuck, like what's happening?

And so I roll it at the ring. I walked back and, you know, I was greeted by all the rest of because it was so sweet. Because I was just out for a year and a half from my first neck surgery. In that year and a half, those tapes came out. I was on drugs and alcohol. I finally came back. I was healthy again. I was finally made it.

And everyone was like, oh my gosh, she's going to hit rock bottom again. This is it. This is going to fucking ruin her, right? So hard. But, like, within, like, 24 hours, everything changed. So, like, I went into the doctor's office. And then they were like, we're going to send you to Pittsburgh so you can go get your neck checked. I saw Dr. Maroon, who did, like, the NFL guys necks and stuff like that.

So I went in there and he was just like, there was no fluid around my spine. So he was like, essentially, you had, like, a huge car crash. And you're lucky you weren't paralyzed, like, forever, right? So I was like, that's terrifying. like, will they ever wrestle again? He's just like, no. And so I called my parents and wrestling is our whole life, right? And that's on video too.

I have to send that to you guys as well. Please do. But they start crying. They start crying their eyes out. They're like, we're so sorry, Princess, you know, because they were in England and I'm sobbing. I'm like, I'm never going to wrestle again. This is awful. Like, this is my life.

This is what I've always wanted to do. This is, you know, W.W.E was it. And so after that, I went back to work, and then they made me GM, which is general manager, which gives me a role where I don't have to wrestle, which I was so thankful for because I felt like I was still useful for something. So I was playing like a person of authority on TV. Like I was like a boss, you know. And then one day they were just like,

we're not going to do this boss anymore. So you can just stay at home. And I was like, fuck, like this sucks. Like I'm not doing eighth and a tour. And then like, you know, now I have a new boyfriend who I've been with ever since the last six years. And he helped me so much to not hit rock bottom again. Because then the pandemic happened. And then we're all doing absolutely nothing

and I just felt completely useless. He got me into Twitch streaming. He did a music video. I was in his music video. He was constantly making me do stuff to keep me busy. Yeah. He's like getting over yet, babe.

Yeah, exactly. Constly push me, push me, push me, yeah. And then WWE called me after the pandemic and they were just like, listen, your contract's coming to an end that's part ways at this point. And I was just like, fuck, like, that's all I've known since I was 18 years old

is WWE, what the hell am I going to do? I'm not going to get that weekly paycheck anymore like oh i'm fucking screwed and i started panicking again and uh we were about to move into a new house too and and my boyfriend was like i'll pay for the house just keep your money keep saving your money and i was like that's so sweet because i was panicking even though it's savings i was like well no one's going to want me after this you know and so after a couple of months um i started getting a phone call from w w e again at triple h and he was like he was in charge now and he was like i would love to have you back he was like what happened did you just leave and i was like did they

not communicate with you? They didn't resign me. They didn't want to resign me, you know. And he was like, well, I'd love to have you back. But then I got another phone call from AEW and they were just like, we want you to come here. So I was like, this is awesome. What do I do? And then Tony said, you get the freedoms to do whatever you want. I'll give you X amount of dollars to do it. And then your schedule only be once a week. I have to fly them once a week. And he let me do anything. I get to keep my real name, you know, because we've got to go on the page and they own that. Oh, okay. Now it gets to be Saraya. Right. That's so cool. Yeah. And they don't own any of it. And I got to use my boyfriend's music as my ring music and like just... That's so cool. It's so cool. Yeah. And so, like, Tony just offered me

so much wonderful things. And he said, I want to bring your brother to and I was like, sign. You're done. You own me. Yeah. Yeah. And so... Oh, yeah. I can't. Yeah. I walk away from W. DeRee because I was like, I love W. DeW.D. And I love everything they've done for me. Absolutely. But I was like, someone saying they're going to offer my brother. an opportunity. I was like, this is his time, right? This is his time to shine. So I was like, done. Done. You make me cry. I know. I get chills to us like, finally someone's fucking paying attention to him. Finally. He just serves it. What's his wrestling name? Zach Zodiac. Zach Zodiac. Zach Zodiac. Yeah, but he goes by Zodiac, Zach Knight in AEW.

Everyone go follow him. Yes, please, go follow him. He's wonderful. And he's a, he's such a good person. He's so sweet. That was the tipping point, like that they were going to do that. With my brother. That was it. I was like, so I'm coming to you. And so. I'm coming to you. And so. I made my debut. I didn't know if I was going to wrestle again still. And then Halloween last year, they were like, it was the last year or the year before that. I went in to get a CT MRI x-rays all down my neck. And they were just like, your neck is perfectly healthy.

After five years, your neck is perfectly healthy. And I was like, what? Wow. Yeah, it was crazy. I was like, it wasn't supposed to heal that quick, right? I was expecting to go back maybe in my 40s, if ever. But they were just like, no, you're good. You're healthy.

Like, you've got all the fluid. How did that happen? I don't know, like my, I always say maybe it's to do with health. My boyfriend got me into the swing of like eating vegan and like being healthy, going to the gym, being sober, like not touching any alcohol or not touching any drug. So proud of you. Yeah, dude, we don't even like do ibuprofen or anything like that. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

We did DMT. DMT's fun. That's like, it's like a herb, like a part of a tree buck or whatever. And then you shoot off and just like. Yeah, I was like natural stuff. That was fun. I wonder if that had something to do with your healing. It could be. It could be honestly. Yeah. It was on my birthday in like 2020 that we got DMT. And like it was just me and him in the backyard. And by the point, it was like beautiful night.

You know, I was like, this is a perfect time to do DMT. So then it felt like I shut up. So he was like, close your eyes. I like close my eyes. And then I felt like it's scary. Yeah. I know. I'm like I was choking. I was like like that. And then I could hear Ronnie being like, relax, relax, like, everything's going to be okay. And then I hear, like, oh, like that noise. And then you shoot through, like, this, like, tunnel of, like, just all these different lights and stuff. It's the craziest thing.

And then you see, like, the Egyptian queen. Like, that's what I saw. A lot of people see, like, a lot of Egyptian stuff. Yeah. So I was like, oh, I saw, like, the queen with, like, the big head dress and stuff like that. But it was very short-lived. Like, it's not long at all. Like, nine minutes, you're out.

And then you're just like, who, I'm tired. But you feel so much better after it's nine minutes. Yeah, it's true. I'm like, I could probably do that, just knowing that you can come out of it. Come to our house. Come to our house. Yeah. But I told him, I was like, oh, thank God.

Thank you for telling me to, you know, chill out. He was like, I never said a word to you. And I was like, what? I was like, are you kidding me? I was like, you were talking to me. You told me to calm down and relax and I calmed down because I felt like I was choking, you know. Yeah. And he was like, I didn't say a word to you.

He was like, I was just here with my hand on your leg like this, you know. He was just like, I was there. Where'd you meet him? Okay. So we've known each other. for a minute, but I met him at like a festival like over 10 years ago, right? And our friend Bobby is the one that introduced us, a mutual friend, you know. And so we stayed in touch for like five years or whatever, but we just weren't in the right place for each other at all. Like we're drinking party and not

wanted to be like chill or settle down and something like that. But I always loved him. Oh, I always, I always say like the first time I saw him, I was like he's coming across like, you know, like festivals they have like everyone's busters and stuff like that. And then like you meat in the middle kind of thing. I saw him like walking across the park and not to me. And it was like, he was in slow motion. There's like a smoke machine happening. He's like, I died in your arms tonight. It's on the background. Pigeons. I was like, oh. I was like, I had a boyfriend at the time of too. So I was like, I shouldn't be thinking like this, you know. But I've never come across any dude where I felt like that before. And I was just like, he's so handsome. He's so handsome. It's something about

him that just is so special. Like I've never seen eyes the way his eyes are shaped as well. It's like weird. He has like a very beautiful bow. He's just. He's just. gorgeous. He's a beautiful... Oh, he's a beautiful. I'll get a good picture for you. Yeah. But he's fucking beautiful. I love him so much. And he's like crazy with his tattoos and stuff like that. He just got all blackout tattoo.

He was covered from head to... He's tattooed. Yeah. I love tattoos. Yeah. He was just really wonderful. And like, so we got... Once I came out of that year and a half of being crazy, you know, and out of this relationship, bad relationship or whatever, I was on social media at my friend Bobby's house again.

I'm with Bobby. And we were just starting like this, this company together called the Australia store. It's not around anymore, but we did like lipsticks and stuff like that. And so I posted on my Instagram and I saw a comment from Ronnie being like, hope you're well. And I'm like, oh, I just felt that when he said it. You're like, oh my God, he seems fucking wring into me. Rachel's nipples got hard.

Yeah. Yeah. She's like, handsome devil. So then Bobby puts in a group chat and Bobby's like, please, because he's bad shit crazy, but also like we just both have very like intense personality sometimes you know he's more than mine he's like i'm i'm more the patient one between us too but yeah he uh bobby's like please you guys will have a clash or you be the best thing ever but he's like don't let me get involved in your guys arguments right and i was like it's not going to be like that like calm you know and so he starts

this group chat and then we start texting and then i go over to california i go and see him and we're having like fun together and it feels right and then and then and then and then And then I was like, I just don't think like I should be in a relationship right now. I wanted it to wait a little bit. Yeah. And he was like, fine. And he ignores me for like an hour, right? And then I get text being like, no, I'm going to fight for you. I want to be with you. And I was like, I was like, that's so romantic. That's romantic, right? And I was like, hell, do you? Like, you, sure. So then I was like, fine, let's do it. But I was scared to be with him at the beginning because I'm, like, I've never loved anyone the way I've loved Ronnie. Like I said, the first time I saw him,

I was like, he's it. He's the one. It's not now, but it's going to be in time. He's going to be the one for me, right? And so I was scared of getting my heart broken. So that's why I just didn't want to start there. I was like, no, you'll break my heart. Like, I can't. I cannot deal with that heartbreak with you. And so when he said he was going to fight for me and that he wants to be with me and stuff, and I was like, oh, fuck. I was like, okay, let's do it. So then he was like touring. And then he came through Orlando because I was in Orlando. And then he was like, move with me to California. And I was like, okay. So I pack up all my stuff. And I was like, I take my dog lobster with me.

Logger. It was lobster. They're all right. He's her lobster. Yeah, for friends. Yeah. But yeah, my good boy lobster. And yeah, and so I move over and then that's it.

And then he was like, let's get sober together. That was his idea. So I was still having a couple of drinks here and there, but he was like, no, nothing. Nothing. That's far away the vape, you know, because I was vaping. Oh, my God, I love this man. Yeah, he changed my life. Wow.

And I hate being one of those women who's just like, oh, thank God for my man. But seriously, no. Thank God for him. Yeah. Facts or facts. Like if he, yeah. He changed my life. I think God shows up through people.

That's my opinion. Yeah. And he is. The gifts are in other human beings. It's okay for people to help you. Yeah. He did. And he did.

And we helped each other in a way where we hold each other accountable now. Yeah. So if there's anything like, I mean, we haven't drank or done drugs or anything. But if we piss each other off, we're like, you're fucking pissing me off. You know. But we rarely argue, which is weird because I'm quite argumentative person. Like, you know. So is he.

But we come to a good balance. where we're just like, it would be like maybe once a month we'll bigger about something. And then within an hour, it's completely done. We don't make it last any longer than that. It doesn't need to be lasting. That's so healthy. So that's why. What signs are you guys?

He's a Sajumma Leo. Oh, okay. So they say they're compatible. I'm not like super into that kind of stuff. But like he said it because he knows all about it. He told me when I find it. He would like read all about it. But he has a wonderful story too, which makes it.

Really? Yeah. He's like, I mean, you should get him on. He's fantastic. He went to, he got kicked out of his first band because he was in the desert and someone got killed, right? Whoa. So everyone thinks he's a murder. He's not. So he got arrested because he had brass knuckles. The guy that shot the guy was self-defense, right? And he didn't go to prison at all. Ronnie was just out on probation, had brass knuckles in Nevada and they're like, you can't do that. You're going to prison for two and a half years. He got, sucks, right? He got, this was a long time ago. This was like 12 years ago,

or something like that. Anyway, he goes to prison, gets sober in prison, and comes out, and he made a band while in prison called Fallen and Reverse, right? So he comes out and it's instantly successful, because he does all the song writing, he does all the instruments. He does everything. Everything in his band, he does, beats everything, right? He's so fucking, he's a genius. And so, like, he, uh, so he went to prison, got sober and then came out and was just like, I'm not going to go back to that person that I was again, built this band, and now he's one of the biggest rock bands there is in the rock world.

Oh, wow. Yeah, so he's so cool. Massive. His songs go triple platinum. He's selling out arenas the same as mine. Stop it. Stop it. Yeah.

It's fucking. It's bonkers. You guys are bonkers together. Yeah. Let me get a picture of him. He's handsome. What is he called falling in reverse? Fall in reverse.

Yeah. People think he's bad shit crazy. Wait, that blackout tattoo though. Does that hurt like how? Like, what is the? Oh, yeah. He's so fucking crazy. And I think it's like being a Sagittarius from what I've learned is like they're very sporadic and like they get hyper obsessed with certain things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And so he goes through stages where he'll find something that he's really interested in and then he'll

fucking beat that drum, right? Yeah. Yeah. So he was like with his tattoos, he was covered in tattoos. And then he was like, I don't like these tattoos anymore. So I'm just going to get blackout covered like before MGK did it. Oh, he did it first. Okay. MGK copy. We always say that. But it's because he follows Ronnie like everything he's. does. I'm going to be bet pay. Yeah, so Ronnie got completely blacked out in like two months. And that's brutal. Okay. So a tas-you gun was like this big and his whole body reacted really crazy to it. I was going to say, did he get sick? Really sick. Yeah. For a couple of days, he was like.

I just heard of this. I didn't know. You get like, whatever. Well, because anytime your body has like any sort of threat, the immune response is coming. So I heard that for the first time that people get. tattoo sick. Yeah. Yep. I've never heard that before. Well, why do you think I've heard of it?

Because you have so many tattoos? No, because my father-in-law decided to get like 20 tattoos in one year. That's true. I'm trying to find, like, because there's a lot of videos, it can be an absolutely fucking psycho. I wouldn't be surprised. I told him he's starting to look like post-Malone. Oh, my God. Yeah.

Sunny. He's got great eyebrows. He's got great eyebrows. It's fucking sick. Yeah, his eyebrows. Pisses me off. I love it. Oh, my God. I love how like, but you're just like so in.

You know what I mean? Just like, I love that. Is it like, do you guys talk like marriage? What's the, or not care about it? I try not to, you know how like, I try not to push on a man like that? So I'm just like, whenever you want to, I'm not, you know, we're not in any rush. But at the same time, I'm like, kind of am. So I really fuck up.

I don't know. I'll make fun of him about it. sometimes, but eventually we will. Yeah. Do you want kids and stuff? I do. I actually went through an ectopic pregnancy before with him. That's not fun.

It scared the share of him too. That is scary. Let me tell you this fucking story, right? These fucking doctors, they're scared of shit of you for no reason, right? So Ronnie's on tour, and we had cameras all around the house inside the house. Because at this point, there's fans, like his fans and my fans that kept finding us. So we were just like cameras all over the house. Oh, my God.

They were insane. And so luckily, we did have him, though. because Ronnie was on his last day of the tour and luckily it was somewhere like San Diego pretty close, right? And I just got like this awful pain in my stomach and then all of a sudden like all this blood stuck coming out and I couldn't even stand up

my stomach ballooned up. It was really bad and so I was like crawling on the floor and I was screaming and there was no one there. I was like I don't know like I don't know what the fuck is going to happen right? So Ronnie saw that I wasn't answering the phone looked at the cameras, saw me on the fucking ground, calls an ambulance, right? Books of flight comes directly home.

but the ambulance comes and then like I crawl myself out the front door and I'm like puking too like it was insane it was just every hole was like it was terrifying I crawl out the door closes behind me and it locks so I'm like oh fuck I can't get back in again so then the ambulance people come the doctors come and they try and go around the back and then they saw I have lobster lobsters a pit ball so they were too scared to go inside they were like do you think you can crawl through the doggy door and I'm like what yeah so I crawl through the doggie door bleed is a lot of blood by the way. There's a lot of blood, right? I crawl through, I unhooked the door because they needed to get my ID and everything like that. Whatever it is they needed to get for me. I mean, in that circumstance, I feel like they should have taken you to... Just straight to the hospital. It was bad, so it started off kind of wacky, right? So then I get there and, and like, they put me in like a little hallway while I'm just bleeding out. And then they rush me into this other room. I have people everywhere. This woman that's going into my freaking crotch, trying to clean everything out, trying to see it, you know? And I'm just like in pain and screaming. You knew you were pregnant? Or you didn't know? No. No. I had no idea.

Yeah, I was going to say. Because I got, with endometriosis, right, they told me that it would be really difficult to even have kids in the first place. So I had no idea. Right. So then they, this doctor, like, I've been there for a couple of hours at this point. Ronnie finally gets here. Well, just before he gets here, actually, because I call him about this. But this, the female doctor was like, yeah, something bad's happening.

It's like an ectopic pregnancy. And I was like, oh, my God. Am I going to die? And she's just like, it's okay to cry. And I'm like, oh, my God. And I'm like, that's not comforting. I was like, what does that mean? am I going to die? And I call Ronnie, I was like, I think I'm going to die. I'm having an

end up of pregnancy, and he's crying. And she's not telling me I'm not going to die. She's just like, it's okay to cry. It's okay. And I'm like, oh my God. And I'm freaking out. So she leaves, and then a couple of hours later, Ron is here, this other doctor comes in. I was like, you're a different doctor. And she was just like, how you doing? And I'm like, well, I'm going to die. She's like, no, you're not. She was like, what are you going to be? She was like, you're here. You're fine. You're in time. But you have an ectopic pregnancy. So we just have to get you into surgery, get everything fixed, but she was like, you're fine. She was like, why do you think you're going to die? I was like, that woman, she brought in the priest. She was like, she was like, she was like, that's a student

medic. She shouldn't have even said anything to you. Right. She's not allowed to give you diagnosis. She's not allowed to do any of these things, so she shouldn't be even talking to you. She's a key and B striper. I was like, yeah, she's just some random off the street. I'm like, oh my God. So then, like, I feel better. I go into surgery pretty much then and there, right? Come out. I stay there overnight. Everyone's fine. Ronnie wasn't allowed to stay. And luckily the hospital was really close to our house at the time. He wasn't too far from here. We used to live around here too.

And so he comes back in the morning and he don't want to wait for them to come and see if I was okay. So he puts me in the wheelchair and just runs me out of the hospital to our house. I was like, that's fine. Just get me out of her. I fucking hate hospitals. But he hates hospitals too. He's like, you're fine. You know, and I'm like, I don't know.

I'm like, I know that's just hanging out, you know. But yeah, it was fine after that. But yeah, he just gets a little worried that when it comes. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. So he pulls up. Yeah. I'm a little terrified. He's like, I just don't want you to die.

Yeah. No, we don't want you to die. But we're a very dramatic experience because you didn't even know. You didn't think you could get pregnant. And then it's an ectopic pregnancy, which is so scary. Yeah, it's scary. Because it can be fatal if you don't like in the whole school. How does it happen?

It's just happens. It just happens. It just shoots in the wrong area or something. It just starts developing in your two. Yeah. I think it's like, yeah. Like the cells, like, develop outside of the uterus. So then, like, when you do try to get pregnant or whatever, like, sometimes it can develop

out there because that's where the cells are. Don't quote me on that. I'm not very good with me. I'm like, I don't know. This is what it is. Yeah. She's like, I play a doctor. Yeah.

I know what I'm talking about. Yeah. So I'm assuming it's something like that because of endo, but who knows. Terrifying. It's crazy. Or maybe it might be because, like, the flow green tubes, the egg gets stuck. I don't know. I don't know.

But I'm pretty sure it's in the floating tube before the pregnancy happens. Yeah, exactly. Instead of the uterus. Yeah. Yeah. Guys, we're like, really, I'm like, oh, God. The medical stuff. Don't quote us on it.

Don't quote us. We're just talking. But it's also more common than people know. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Like, yeah. But it also goes like untreated for so long because doctors don't really like take it very serious and it's really frustrating.

I don't know. So you have to go to like an actual endo doctor and there's, they're very few and far between. But it's frustrating. How did you know you had it? So the doctors will tell you. So I suffer from cis all the time. And so once they go in and inspect everything, they're like, you have endometriosis. It's what you're going.

Why you keep suffering from those, right? So they, oh, I actually had one, a dermoid one that had bone and teeth and everything. I was like, ugh. My cousin had that. It's like had hair and a teeth and a face. Excuse me? What the hell are you talking about? Yeah, it's a syph. You didn't know that?

What are you talking about? Mary, Mary, oh, sorry, Mary, I'm putting you on blast. My cousin. Wait, yeah. Wait, what do you mean a face and bone? It can grow teeth. They can grow teeth and hair. Yes.

Yeah, I disrupt your world. She's married to a doctor and she's just learning this. This is grand new information. Awesome about that demo. So you've got like a little like where the wild thing are. Demon baby. Terrifying. So like it grows on you.

But you have it for years and years and years. That's why it develops all that kind of stuff. Real teeth. Real teeth. Yeah, it's about the teeth. Yeah. You guys. It's disposed.

We're not lying. I had a 10 cent of me by 6th and me a dermoid cyst on my ovary. It had fucking teeth. It had teeth in her. It's so gross. She's so freaked out right now. You guys, I feel a little bit like nauseous. Yeah, it's gross.

Well, it's gross to think about. Yeah. It was inside me. Wait, did you have to have it removed or did it go away on its own? Yeah, I have a big, like, it's like a C-section scoff from it because it's so big. Those are so big. Those you have to have surgically removed. Yeah, yeah.

What's the, why teeth? I don't know. It doesn't have the, like, medical information for you. I don't know. I don't know what it is. But, yeah, I didn't even know those more thing either until, like, this was like in 2013. This is a movie. Yeah.

This is a fucking a horror movie. It's a way out. Like, what is? It's my cyst. It's gross. So, like, I went to get an x-ray on my back. Because I didn't know I had scoliosis for the most of my life, right? Oh my god.

Until I was in Debbie Doreen, I was doing bent over rows. And the trainer was like, do you have scoliosis? Because your back's fucking weird, you know? And so I was like, oh. And I always thought my back was weird. When I looked at like, you know, try to look at a mirror and a backlist thing. I'm like, oh, like, what's going on back? Oh, ma'am.

Because it was like scoliosis. I just love it. You laugh at everything. That you're just like, it's such a good attitude. She's like, oh. What's that? What's that? What's that?

On my back? That was on my ovary. I know. So I went to go get. Like a whole x-ray. And they were like, you have a mask going on. I was like, oh, God. Oh, no.

And then they went in and they thought it was a regular cyst, which I get those too without the teeth. I do too. I get regular cysts. I had a huge one. Yeah, they couldn't do anything like you can't run, you can't ski. It did not have. It was doing the running for me. No, it didn't grow any of that, but it was just a massive one.

It was really big. Yeah, that one's just a sack full of like liquid. Mm-hmm. But most of the time, you can just let it. like it gave you something to make it go down or whatever. But I've had a bunch just surgically removed. So this one, like those keyhole surgeries, like through the belly button. Yeah, yeah.

But this one was too big. So then I woke up and it was like, I crossed me something. I'm like, ah, you know, and it was the most painful shit. I've had my boobs done twice and that's not. And my neck, my neck was the easiest surgeries. I had two on my neck, two on my boobs and like a couple down here. And this one was the most painful thing ever. I've had that.

She's had two six sections. It's fucking horrendous. It's horrendous. It's horrendous. Oh, you can't fucking laugh. You can't sneak. You can't go to the bathroom. No, you can't stand up straight.

Don't try and go to the bathroom. Yeah, you're toast. It fucking sucks. It takes a minute for you to, like, get healthy again with that too. But yeah, and like, then you have, like, this big scar. I'm like, I didn't have a baby. Like, I don't even have an award for this. I had a demon baby.

You did you. You had a demon baby. Did you keep it? No, no, no. I should have. You should have. You should have. But I just in that moment.

Yeah, so they bring a picture of it. They take pictures, like, while they're inside it. Yeah. So they show you the piece of paperware, like, you know, image off. And I was like, ugh, that's disgusting. Yeah. I'm good. Yeah, keep it. Keep it in a jaw. I'm like, bring it with me. And I'm like, I thought this would be a good job. You've taken it out of the rain. You can be like, me and my baby. Yeah. You changed your wrestling name to Rosemary's baby. Yeah. Oh, my God. It's too much. Yeah. I'm sorry if you go into that story.

Don't be sorry. No, we love this kind of thing. Like this is like, my world just got changed because the vision I keep thinking of like that the first time I heard it. I keep seeing like where the wild things are. Like with the hair and the teeth. Yeah, I'm a freak of nature. What women have to deal with, I'm sorry, but what we have to do with is fucking insane. Do you get like demoises on boys fucking, you know, bullsack? I know.

Nothing. We have to deal with it all. We do. We have to push humans out or taken out. I mean, either way. Yeah. It's not fun. Even just the bleeding, man.

Yeah. The bleeding. When you try and make it like I have two sons, right? And if they witness any blood anywhere and I just say, oh, it's mommy has a certain time of the month, right? Bleed. They're like, that's horrible. And I'm like, it's-

We don't die either. We just bleed out. Do you ever know that thing when it's like, anything that bleeds for seven days straight and doesn't die, that shit's just evil? Yeah. That's like a company. It's like Eddie Murphy or something like that. I mean, it is what we have to deal with that, especially like, I have a friend that's

pretty fortunate when it comes to periods where she's like, it's not really painful for her. I'm like, oh, you fucking bitch. God's favorite. And then you have like, another brand where she won't have like a period for like two months and then she'll get it really heavy. It worries me. I feel like if you just mention the word period, that's it. I'm fucking sprouting. You know, like, start. Especially when you're in a locker room full of girls and we all start with each other. We sink up. And it's the worst fucking thing ever. And this is one girl in the locker room, Deanna Paranza. Oh, yeah, it's you. She is notorious for making people start their periods because her, her, her, her, her, Her stomach aura, her period aura, is just so, like, strong that if she's on her period, that's it everybody is.

It's the weirdest thing. And I didn't believe it when she first came to AW. I was like, don't believe it. It's not real. But it is real. Instantly start my period. As soon as she came around, I was like, oh, fuck, I'm bleeding out. Oh, my God.

Yeah. But, okay, the girls. Yeah. You mentioned the walker room. Yeah. Do you guys all get along? Yeah. Actually, it's shocking.

Like, obviously, so there was a woman wrestler that once said, like, you know, you know, you know, like a period, the locker room flushes itself out of all the bad shit, you know? Awesome. So, like, even if there is, like, a negative person, usually they're gone. Yeah. Or, like, there's a change of tune or something like that. Yeah. And, but the girls that, they're so amazing. They're all so sweet.

And they're all a lot younger than I am. Like, I'm in my 30s. They're in the early 20s. So it's like, mother. Yeah. So it's actually quite depressing. But it's like, they're really, really sweet. And they all just, like, are really happy to be there, which is really nice.

Yeah. So we all get along great. Yeah, that's awesome. Yeah, it's really fun. And then I always have my friend Renee. She's kind of like, you know, my, you too. You know? Renee, we went through everything together.

We went through W.D. We did like a show on Fox. We did Total Divas the reality show and then we did AW together. So we've always just been with each other. So she's there now with you. She is. Yeah. I hope he's there too, but she didn't go there for a husband.

Oh. Nope. She sure didn't. Yeah. Yeah. We know. Wow. We know what's up.

Yeah. Wow. so crazy. The whole world to me, it's so interesting. And like you said, like the fans are so die hard. Like, I know, but I would like to go. I want to go watch. Can we come one time?

I want to see you. We're in California actually soon. Can we come? Absolutely. I would love to. I would love to. I grew up watching wrestling. Yeah. I was obsessed as a kid. Oh, please. I was really in the glow. Glow. Did you watch glow?

The gorgeous ladies of wrestling? That's like old school, too. They made it into Netflix as well. That was a really good show. Yeah, the newer show. I thought you were about the newer show. No, as a kid I watched it. Oh, got it.

Yeah, that was awesome. I got real into wrestling for a moment, like real hardcore. My friend's dad was into it, so we would watch it every Saturday morning. Yeah. That was during, like, was it like Randy Savage days? Oh, I love Randy Savage. Well, it's just, it's fun to see the big character. It's like, I always say it's like going to like a movie because we have the storylines too.

Yeah. So you have a little live action as well as. Yeah, a movie. And then you're like, you want to come in next week. You want to watch next week. You want to see what happens. You know, you're like, leave them on a cliff hanger. But it's like, people will make fun of it sometimes. But I'm like, it's a billion dollar company. So you, and hundreds of thousands of people go to shows like each, like every WrestleMania. You get at least 20,000 weekly that goes to one of the shows, you know.

So there's a lot of people that love wrestling still. So whoever makes fun of it, I'm like, you are a closet. No, it's massive. It is. It's really this fucking is awesome. And then, you know, if you do want to, if you do want to watch on TV too, I just say AW is on TVS on Wednesdays and TNT on Saturdays. Oh, there you go.

I'm excited. I want to start watching them with my kids because they wrestle every night. I want to show her like, yeah. Bringing them all to the show. Is kid friendly, you know? Yeah, she'll come along and then we'll bring her backstage and all that kind of fun stuff. Oh, my name is so exciting. Give her some tips.

Yeah, yeah. Let her wrestle. My kids wrestle every day. I'll teach her a couple things to put one of these, you know. Oh, that'd be so cool. We would love to do that. Yeah. Being serious.

Yeah. Yeah. We'll teach you a few things. Yeah. No, they'll love it. If you come early, we'll get the kids in the ring and stuff like that. Oh my God. That's so great.

Yeah. Please come. Oh. Yeah. Oh, my God. You're incredible. Like, yeah. Just everything, your spirit, your energy, all of it.

Just, you're so awesome. I sweat so aggressively, though, that I'm like, we're not even doing very much. Okay, good. Like, I'm a heavy sweater. So, like, I'm like, you look beautiful. Like, I'm dripping. Not at all. You're gorgeous.

And it probably plays well for the wrestling. Yeah. Because it's like, oh, she's working for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I'm a little hunker when I speak to, apparently. I'm a little aggressive when I speak.

I can't wait to see you. This is really fun. Thank you guys. Yeah. It was really, really fun. So thank you guys for having me here. I love it.

Thank you for coming on. It's being so open. Yeah. It's different than speaking about like, because a lot of people ask a lot of wrestling questions. Oh, really? So it's always nice to talk about other things outside of wrestling. And so you're just like, oh, this is like a breath of fresh air really.

This is just fun. This is just us having fun. Yeah, we just, yeah. I love it. Yeah. So thank you guys so much. Thank you so much. Thank you for sharing with us.

Okay. How was your first wrestling match? Absolutely fantastic. It really was. It was so much fun. We met Soraya. She took us backstage. She did.

Yeah, she was so cute. She was so, I just adore her. I think she's a lot. a bad person. Yeah. Love her. Her boyfriend was there. They were all great.

We got to watch her brother fight. Her brother. Her brother. Her brother. Yes. Yeah. So that was really fun to like watch it with her and she was like really excited. And it was a very fun moment for us as a family.

And then we watched the show. She wasn't wrestling in it though. She wasn't wrestling? No. They switched and it was like another girl. But that's okay. We had the best time. It was very aggressive in there.

There's a lot of cuss words. Oh. Yeah. Your boys fit right in, I'm sure. Yeah. They're like, oh, we're home. We decided to leave. It was them swearing, right?

Yeah. We decided to leave at one point. We're like, okay, it's time to go. Like, it was a school night. Shepard lost his mind. He didn't want to leave. Bricking hysterical. Like, I've never seen him get that mad.

He was like, no, no, no, bad guys. So we had to take him back in to finish. it out. You couldn't leave. We couldn't leave. That's hilarious. And now there was this one wrestler named swerve, and he plays this song when he comes out, and it's like, whose house?

Swerve's house. No way. All day, every day. I have to play the swerve song in the car, and Shepard is in the backseat, like, A swerve when I drive. They became obsessed with wrestling, and now watch it. Were you guys big wrestling fans growing up? I actually was.

I was too. You were? It was fun. You were? You were? I think if my brother would have been into it, then I would have been exposed to it, but no one in my family really watched wrestling. It wasn't in my family. My best friend's dad watched it, so we would watch it every weekend.

It was fun. I love it. Yeah. Me too. I get nostalgic for it sometimes still. Oh, my God. Like fighting with my family. I loved that movie.

Same. Did you see Ready to Rumble when it came out? No. That was like David Arquette. Oh, yeah. Have you seen White Claw yet? I watched it this weekend. How was it?

Depressing. What is it? The Jeremy Allen White, is it? Ephron-Russling family. Right. They have like a cursed family. The boys would love it, though. Yeah, they are, exactly.

They would. You know, what movie would you live in if you could live in a movie? He's like White Claw. Is it called White Claw? It's Iron Claw. White Claw is it? That's the alcoholic beverage. Of course, that's where her brain goes.

What movie would you live in? What movie? It's a good, it's a great question. No, but it may, I mean. Is he being facetious? No, I think he's being. I'm being serious. I'm trying to think, probably like a Wes Anderson movie because they're always so

like quirky and. That tracks for you. Or like in Bruges. Oh, you would live in that movie? I mean, that's. The setting. Okay. It's nice there.

The setting. What about you? Not like the Hitman situation. I think like something really light. I think I'm going Peewee's big adventure. Oh. No, Big Top Peewee. Sorry.

Is that the circus one? That's the one I watched. There's always a lot of antics in that. Oh, really? It's a lot of like deep darkness in there. Yeah. Maybe I won't live there. Sorry.

Okay. I really need to think about this because it got me thinking and I can't figure out which movie. I feel like I would want something really late. Like Oppenheimer? Like, I don't know. Something's got to give, something about Mary. Like Up?

No. I have never cried harder in a movie than I did in Up. Is that true? I swear to you, the first time I watched up. No, granted, my grandfather just passed away. Okay. Pop-pop. Yeah.

But I watched it. But that kind of shit hits me on a level so deeply. I was scarred. Like, I'm crying. Because I did watch you cry really heavily during. What was that movie that Jeff would make us watch over the moon? 80 for Brady. You cried so much.

You thought maybe you got swept into the river of sadness, remember? I was like, I live in the river of sadness. That one took you. Is that what it's called? I don't know, something like that. Yeah. Did you see the Airbnb made an uphouse that you could rent? I could not go there.

It had like the, it was floating. Where is it? It was in California. They had like a ton of balloons. That is so cute. How do you feel about hot air balloons? I don't think I would do it. You wouldn't do it?

Would you go in one? No, I don't think so. Why? I don't like heights. Oh. That's a balloon in the air. I would do it. I once had a guy take me on a date for a hot air balloon, but then the wind was too strong, so we didn't make it.

Well, I'm not going to tell the world. It was trash. When I took Calvin camping once, it was in Temecula, and we woke up in the morning, got out of the tent, and there was just hot air balloons all over in the sky. That's cool. That was cool. They don't see any of that. No, I don't need to be up there. No, do they scare you?

That's interesting because you're so scared of things. But I'm not scared of heights and stuff like that. Yeah, me either. Like I've done the, what is it called? Like, paragliding and all of that. Is that what is? I don't think you have, I don't think you have paragliding. What's paragliding?

When you go up in the sky? You mean parasailing? Yeah. Yeah, that's way different. Paragliding is when you're holding onto the bar and you're like flying. And that's it. And there's like no ropes. She's like, good, paragliding.

I'm a paragliding. God, got paragliding. Oh my God. What's parasailing? Parasailing is when you're towed by the boat and you're up there. Yeah. Yeah. Like what I mean is I'm not scared of heights.

I get it. I don't think you would paraglider. Like now challenge except it. I just don't trust. I would love to see it. I don't trust it. Interesting. Do you?

What? Trust what? A hot air balloon? No, I hear about like crash landings aren't great. Yeah. I just, I'm not like, I don't have a desire to do it. Me neither. But if someone was like, will you go up?

I'll be like, all right. You have Briar. Yeah, I would never like. Yeah, I would never like. Skydiving? I don't know taking my kid. That makes me more. Skydiving?

I used to want to skydive. It's changed a little since I had Briar. Like a lot of those things change once you're, you're like, why? No, it's not worth the risk. I want to know what it really is, though. I'm not scared of that. I have chronic sinusitis. And if I'm worried that that.

altitude that it'll hurt. Isn't it the same as flying in the altitude? Well, yeah, but... But in her mind, it's different. No, but I feel like if you're in a plane, it's like pressurized. Like if you're just up there and you have to go out... I don't want to.

Maybe that's just my brain. I don't know. I mean, I would do... Again, I'd be like, I would do it. Depending on what guy asked. Facts. Absolutely. I would do anything. guy asked me to do.

It makes me happy. Do you want to know a fun fact I learned? Always. So you know how they say that your metabolism slows down when you're older? And that's why people gain weight or whatever. And as you get older, your metabolism slows down. That's not true. That's fun.

Isn't that? Isn't that fun? No. What happens is you lose muscle mass, and because of that, your metabolism slows down. But if you build your muscle mass, you can keep your metabolism. She's been working out with her brother. He's not the one who's talking about it. I know.

There's a lot. That's going around now that, like, muscle building is most important. I don't want the muscle mass, like. Yeah, but you need it as you grow old. No, I don't want to be buff. You need it. Okay. For everything.

Where did you learn it? I actually learned it through Nicole when we were training together. That I believe. How do you feel about milk thistle? Do you know about it? Is this going around too? Is this related?

Is it like cholesterol? It's like, I don't know. It's just something to take. It's good for your liver. And if your liver is good, then you're good. Where does it come from? Milk. A commercial on Instagram.

Oh, I wonder why they're talking. I don't just randomly get targeted things. No, there was like two things. The doctor was talking about that. And then this other thing that I was going to look up, wait, I put it in my notes because I didn't know what it was. I've never heard anyone say to take milk. Jim Nima something? Does that sound from, well, just because of Jeff, I'm asking you.

Okay. No, I'm not looking at you like you're crazy. I'm looking at you like I've never heard of Janima. Jim Nima. Let me look it up, guys. Jim Nima. No, here it is. It's Jim Nima.

Sylvester. Okay, something to ask your husband and then. I just want to know why you're being targeted these things. I don't know, but it was, um, an actress was Maggie Q and this doctor and it was like this whole thing. So I watched it till the end because she kept talking about. I've watched that. You've watched it. That's why she can target it.

See? Because you watched it. Okay. I've watched it. And these were the things. And I'm like, well, I got to look up these things. It was a quite compelling. It was a quite, yeah, her whole thing.

No, it's like, yeah, okay, Maggie Q, I believe you. I will do that. But we do have to be careful. With what? I don't know. With what we take? I guess, yeah. Or what?

What we watch? What we believe? What do you believe? With like, don't step on any cracks, you know. Ye. Are you superstitious, Rob? Do you step on cracks? Do you walk under ladders?

Certain things I am super-suffer's about yes Like what? Will you walk under a ladder? Will you open an umbrella inside? It's more like sports. Yeah. What do you mean? Like he had to wear that he wore that hat when the White Sox won, so he has to wear it again.

It's when I play. Oh. There's a certain album I'll listen to. I'm at way to a game. Oh yeah, we've talked about it. Yeah. What album is it again? It's a Circa Survive album.

A what? Circa Survive. Circa survive. Okay. It's the same one. Same one, every time. Do you open umbrellas in the house? Yeah, I don't really care about that.

You don't? Will you walk under a ladder? Sure. If you see a black cat coming, do you switch lanes or let it cross your path? Switch lanes? Am I driving? Or just like move? I don't consciously do anything if I see a black cat.

Okay. I don't, black cats don't bother me. I mean, cats in general bother me, but not black cats superstitiously. Yeah, I don't think I'm... Superstitious? No, not like general global rules like that. I don't like. But if I...

If it's something specific that I do, I can get... You come up with your own. Yeah, I can get superstitious about that. Is it superstitious or is it ritualistic? Probably both. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

What about you, ladies? I try not to be superstitious. My mom has really been, like, enforcing that. Like, don't buy into that stuff. But I do have certain things. I do have to do something when I get on a plane. Do you think about everything that could go wrong? No, that's you.

I'm kidding. No, I do a thing. Like, I have, like, a, you know. I do too What do you do? It used to be the bubble I used to put the plane in That's for me

The bubble Yeah But then I stopped doing that And well no I'd still be like Maybe a little of that Yeah But I picture my kids' faces

And I picture like If I'm not with them Like I picture getting to them And like kissing their faces And the fricles and like everything So that I know that that's going to happen. Oh. Yeah. I used to always wear my grandmother's necklace and I was like, I don't want to be tied to this that if I don't have it, I'm going to feel anxious. So I let go of that, but I just do

the mental thing where I put it in a bubble. Yeah. I put the plane in a bubble. Sometimes I picture it, like just see, you know, flying along all happy, like with the sun. Like it's like a happy little it's a happy little plane. It's like a sesame street inside her head. Yeah. That's great. All times. Do you not do anything when you get on a plane? Do you wipe down your plane? See, the whole thing. You can wipe the whole plane.

If I have them, or it's normally if I'm traveling with Natalie and she has them. You'll wipe. Then I will take it from her. I was always that person. I'm not going out of my way to do it either. How was that person pre-COVID? I saw Natalie rock climbing. Excuse me?

I'm walling. What is it called? I do have certain music I will also listen to on the plane. Like have to? And like takeoff and like getting ready to go. You're super superstitious. But it's more like soothing. What is it?

It'll be like fleet foxes or powerbirds. Like something called like Phoebe Bridgers. Okay. You know what I used to do? I trained myself to go to sleep to kid A, their radio head. Even when idiotic would come on. It would still put me to sleep. and so every time I would get on a plane

I would just listen to that album and it would knock me out I used to take Xanax Are you see it wasted And drink Have it? Can you sleep on planes? Nope

I try to But I've even like I'm going to take a red eye Because I think I can do it And then I do it And then I don't sleep And then I wake up in Or then I get to Chicago at 6 a.m.

And I'm tired. Can you sleep on planes? Hit her. Miss. Yeah. Living and I get on a plane and we don't stop talking. I wish I could. I've tried to take early flight so that I could sleep through it and then like not sleep

the night before to be like, I'm going to force myself to. It's not comfortable. Nope. No, it's very uncomfortable. Yeah. But I do find the sound of the plane like white noise and it will put me out too. Do you not find that? No.

Oh. Can get like a light flap maybe. You can sleep. That's nice. I mean, I'll fall asleep if it's been like, if it's a long flight and it's a red eye, but it's like up and down. It's not what? It's so boring what we're talking about. Yes, this sucks.

Yeah, it's boring. We're putting our listeners to sleep as we speak. Right? Reminds me of the laundry. They might like. Maybe our biggest episode yet. Yeah. Taco Bell order.

And how you pulled your laundry is really bangers. Wait, I want to know about the rock climbing. Wait, we'll start. Wait, we go back. Where did you see Natalie rock climbing on Instagram? I didn't. It wasn't like a piece show. She was at the climbing gym.

I thought you were like, yeah. Ran into Natalie rock climbing. That's what we're talking. No. We're like at the farmer's market. On the rock wall. We did. That is so good.

I wish. That would be amazing. Do you go together? Wait, she goes to the climbing gym. Is that the story? She goes with Calvin on Saturday. But she's her own climber. As opposed to someone else's?

I mean, not just going with Calvin. She's doing it herself. Do you do it? No, I don't like heights. Casper loves it. I know. That's why I was like, oh, is this like a group thing you guys do? He does bouldering.

She, her and Calvin do the, like, rope climbing. So. Don't you have to be like, you have to have a certain thing? to do it. He has to be like certified. Yeah. She's certified? For belaying.

Yeah. How do you get certified? You take classes. Yeah, you take classes and then you have like a test. It's just basically to figure out the not. And you don't do it. I did it during our winter break. I don't like heights.

Right. That's what I was going to say. I'll force myself to confront this and maybe it'll just go away. And I did it for like two or three days or maybe like a week and a half. We went a couple times. It was fun. It was fine, but then... Do you show Cal that you're scared of heights?

Does he know? He knows. Do you show him? Yeah. What does it look like? Yeah. I mean, I went up and climbed. It was fine.

But he, I didn't tell him I... Peed yourself. No, I didn't peeve it. I didn't tell him that I wasn't not afraid of it. Like, he was, he was aware. Okay. I've only had a fear of heights one. time. When was it? When I went to the World Trade Center, I had a panic attack. And when I got to

the top, like, full-blown panic attack and had to leave. I was like, I need to get out of here. When and why were you at the top of the World Trade Center? I went to New York and I was with my family and they were taking us around New York and we went there. And it was like a year before 9-11? Yeah. I was at your house. In 9-11, we were sleeping. Yeah. And her roommate came in. and said, I don't know if you care, but America's under attack and walked out and shut the door. You had a roommate when 9-11 happened? What's wrong with that? Oh, you were like, two.

How old were you? I was in seventh grade. Oh, wow. Yeah. I was probably nine. We were probably like 19 or something like that. I was. That was 20.

No. Was it 2001? Yeah. Yeah. That was 20. Yeah. Had a roommate. Mm-hmm.

She literally. really walked in and we go, I don't know if you care, but America is under attack. We were like, what? And we got up. We're like, why wouldn't we care? I know, we got up and went into living, to watch the TV. Yeah. And we ordered sandwiches. No. No. Someone brought us bagels. Oh, that's what it was. I just remember there was like food that was a memory. Yeah, the guys came over and brought us bagels. They brought us bagels. Yeah. Yeah. With Leah was this? I don't remember. I know it was. I know it was. us. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. Back in. Or never we're out. I don't know. The jury's out. The jury's out on that one.

You guys want to pick some questions? Yeah. Oh my God. I've been getting the hiccups like the past three days in a row. What does that mean? Have you been drinking heavily? Yes. All right. Question number one. My girlfriend made me cry after having sex. Why did I cry? Question number two. Just heard a phone notification in the bathroom while showering alone. Should I ask my fiancé about it? Wait.

I don't understand. Okay. We have to pick it to find out. Question three. We are sexually incompatible, but I don't want to break up. What should we do? Ooh. That's a toughy.

So crying after sex, phone notification of the bathroom. I don't understand. I don't know if I want to answer that one, but I don't understand. Yeah. So that's what you're picking out of curiosity? I think so. So my fiancé and I have been together for four years, engaged for one. I was taking a relaxing bath this evening to enjoy the silence and let the bathroom fan drown out. All the outside noise.

My phone was on silent. I wasn't wearing earbuds. I'm deep into meditative state in the bath when I am jarred by a phone, text or email notification. clear as day coming from inside the bathroom. Got up immediately. I'm so confused by this question. Oh, I get it. We'll see. Got up immediately.

She was her phone wasn't in there? WTF. I checked my phone even though I knew it was silent and there was no notification. So I'm kind of worried at this point. I feel a sinking in my stomach. So I get dressed. Look through the crevice, box, cabinet drawer and plumbing fixture in the bathroom to find nothing. I know for a fact I did not just hear it in my brain.

It was a distinct android. Boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, boo. Which we don't have any androids. Huh. Foreign S, yes, I checked my carbon monoxide levels. They are fine. I have no mental illness. The question is, what do I do?

Do I even bring this up to my fiancé? I sound crazy and I don't want to be accusatory. But my first thought was a second phone hidden by him in the bathroom. I can't imagine you could ever cheat, but you can never be too vigilant with something random and unexpected like this happens. Should I wait and see if it happens again? I'm not going to lie. I'm a little paranoid and have been convincing myself. I manifested the noise, but I know my gut it was real.

Where else would I even look, though? My first thought was like, oh, is there like a landlord or like planted a phone to like watch people in the bathroom? There's an update. Oh, good. I was hoping so. I don't think she trusts him, though. Because that, like, is a far lead. No, but also, wouldn't he, like, make sure it was on silent? Yeah, but that's like, you gotta really not trust someone to be like, dude's got a burner phone that he hid. Like, do you think Natalie would ever think that if she heard a noise? Would she be like, oh, Rob's...

That Android must be... You never. You've got to, like, already have... She's barely paranoid, yeah, to begin with. All right. I did not talk to my fiancé about it because I found the phone before he got home. I tore the bathroom apart like a madman, but this time I checked behind the toilet tank, between the wall, about a two-inch gap and mounted to the back of the tank was one of those $1 holder things that you peel off and stick something to hold items.

The phone was placed inside of it and sticky mounted thing. Definitely not my phone. And obviously it was meticulously placed there. Well, my fiancé and I broke up. The password was the same as his computer that we share, so I unlocked it when trying to stifle, found Snapchat conversations with three different women. The notification sound I heard was lined up with the most recent snaps

on Timber Woman's Bear Pussy asking, Robert! When he can come stuff it again? In a rage, I smashed the phone and texted my fiancé to come home immediately. He came home and already looked at. pale like he knew. I asked him how fucking long has been going on and refused to answer anything. I told

him to pack his crap and leave. As he walks out with this backpack, I hear a mutter. I knew I forgot to silence it. So yeah, I wasn't crazy. I heard a notification and he was fucking cheating. Now my whole world is upside down and I don't know where to go from here. I just can't believe this. I'm just thinking

like... See, at first I was like, I would have tore up the entire bathroom if I was her and looked like the first like when you hear that you know but like what the hell kind of person is putting a phone in a toilet like a burner phone like are you strapped to the back phone like break up with her like you're gonna go to that length like is it what is what is real people people people are strange like the bat the toilet you couldn't have come up with a better place the toilet you share with your fiance that's crazy like put it in your glove box with like a safe or something.

I don't know. Keep it at work. Let's, how would you cheat if you were cleaning this saltia? Let me break this down for you. I'm like, you put it in the right. Yeah.

I know. I just like the toilet, that just seemed so like, double seven. I understand like where are you going to put it at your house that like, you know. Yeah, I don't know.

I mean, it's a little back of sister. You guys are just more offended by the stupidity of this guy than the actual. You know, we're like, why did you hide it there? Also, she already didn't trust him. Because you hear her phone notification go off

and the first thing you think is your boyfriend has a burner phone, like, that's a problem. Yep. Now I'm going to go, like, look at all your toilet? Yeah, I'm going to go. Yeah, but like what happens if you're like, have a plumbing problem? And they're like, there's a phone here.

Like, that's just so creepy. Yeah. It's stupid. Do you think it's real? I have no reason to think it's not real. Well, I mean, she went back and, like, updated it. I feel like it's real, you know? I don't know.

You're just like she doesn't believe the stupidity of this guy. I don't believe this anonymous Reddit post. I mean, that's crazy. What are your thoughts on people who write things on? Like Reddit? Reddit or the Internet in general. Do you think that, like, do people you know and associate with go online and, like, like write reviews or do that kind of stuff.

Like a Yelper? Well, I think reviews is different than I comment. Are you a Yelper? I'm not, but... Do you have Yelper friends? I think so. You do? Yeah.

Do you? What, Yelper friends? Yeah. I have people that like rely on Yelp, but I don't know if they're Yelpers themselves. Does that make sense? I don't know if they write it, but they rely on it to pick places and things. What about Reddit? I'm, you know, people that use Reddit, too.

They write on it. Sure. Okay. I mean, I think there's good and bad versions of all of those. Totally. I mean, look it. When people go put positive things, that's really sweet. But I guess when people write really mean things, I'm like, what kind of person would do that?

Lonely people. Oh. Lonely people? But what does that cure for them? To just be like blatantly mean for no reason. What hit do they get from doing that? It's not like someone's going to be like, I hear you and you're amazing. You know, because usually when you read a really negative comment, you're like, oh.

Well, usually, I would imagine most of the time most people are dealing with other insecurities and things that are causing them to act out in this way. You know, I learned a lot from going to a wrestling match. Yeah. Well, and I thought of it this way. I'm not going to lie. I thought it was a really healthy way because these people are in there and they're kind of bashing. You know, it's like medieval times in a way where they're bashing. All I'm saying is these people are going out and taking their aggression out and saying really aggressive things.

And I was like, you know what, that's a really healthy way to do it. You're doing it in a way where people signed up for that and they're welcoming it. So if you have aggression and mean things to say, go to a wrestling match. Go to the AW. Yeah. I'm serious. Let it out. Let it out.

Yeah. In a way that they're welcoming. Or one of those parks where you like smashed things. What? We were just watching a blippy episode where he went to. So much you'll learn about. Smashed a car with an excavator. Oh, wow.

I know. It was a little aggressive. That is aggressive for blippy. Vinny was into it. That's cute. All right. All right. All right.

All right. next time okay thanks guys see it later bye