Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - Sasheer Zamata on SNL, Being Witchy, and Ghostly Encounters

Episode Date: September 16, 2024

Actress Sasheer Zamata (SNL, Agatha All Along ) talks to Rachel and Olivia about her audition process with SNL, her ghostly encounters in New Orleans and her new Disney Plus series, Agatha All Along. They also discuss being witchy, and how the moon can bring forth positive energy. Broad Ideas is sponsored by Quince, Go to quince.com/ideas for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.Broad Ideas is sponsored by Posh Peanut. Go to postpeanut.com/broad and use promo code BROAD for 20% off your first order. Broad Ideas is sponsored by Article. Article is offering our listeners $50 off your first purchase of $100 or more, visit ARTICLE.COM/BROAD and the discount will be automatically applied at checkoutSee Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Olivia's eating a cookie, one of the vegan gluten-free cookies I baked. Today we have Sashir Zamata. She is on Agatha. Agatha all along. Agatha all along. And she's got a podcast. She's a podcast.

She was on SNL. Best friends with Nicole Beyer. Yep. I see a lot of Nicole Beyer. Breyer loves Nailed it. I love Nailed It too. It's fun. Do you watch Is it Cake?

Of course. We do. We just finished the new season. Okay, let's get into the interview. Sometimes when we're inside of Rachel's little brain, all these thoughts are swirling, round and round inside. To join us on this journey as we take a little ride. We'll talk about dogs and kids and things.

We'll talk about chicks and things. Tampon strings we'll talk about boys. Because people die. Hi. Hi. Thank you so much for being here with us. Yeah, thanks for having me. So excited to meet you.

Yes, nice to meet you too. And just to talk everything. You're just very impressive. I'm just going to put it out there. I appreciate that. Thank you. Yeah. Yeah, you're watching you for years.

I mean on SNL. Yeah. We watch it every single weekend. Oh, nice. Yeah. She does. It's true. Yeah.

Yeah. It's a long-standing show. You're like, you're the only one. It's still happening. Still going. How many years were you on? I was on four, three seasons, or four, four, four seasons. Yeah. Three and a half years from like 2014 at 2017.

Oh, wow. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. And yeah, it was like a great experience and true training ground for everything. I feel like everything I learned there. I left being like, oh, I can do anything and kind of how it's felt. Yeah.

But it's a real like boot camp. Yeah. Yeah, boot camp. Yeah. Thrown in and I know it's like nonstop. And, you know, stories I've heard is how like intense the commitment is. Yeah. I mean, you learn how to do everything.

I, you know, got hired as a performer, but you also have to write. Yeah. Your skits, right? Yeah. You have to write your own stuff. And I learn how like kill your darlings and edit quickly. Oh, my gosh. And if you get a sketch.

in the show, you kind of like also figuring out what props do you want, what costumes do you want? You're talking to every head of each department, figuring out what you want the look of it to be. And like, yeah, I feel like it really utilizes every creative tool that you have in your bag. Wow. That's a lot. Yeah. So much. How does it work? I always wonder how certain ones get approved because there's certain ones that are so funny. Yeah. And then there's other ones where you're like, is it me? Am I missing something? Is that funny? And I'm always like, what's the process with that?

Like, do you go to a committee and be like, here's my ideas? Yeah. How does that work? It's like the producers and the headwriters figuring out what's best for the show that week. But if I knew how it worked, I'd probably still be there. Right. So, yeah, it's all a lot of that.

And, like, what I've heard, you know, headwriter and, like, the whole crew just getting together. What I've heard, how was this for you? because I hear the auditioning process is super gnarly. Yeah, it was interesting. I mean, you have to send in a tape, like a little five-minute tape of whatever you want. I did a bunch of characters, and then you do these showcases, and I was living in New York at the time. And so I got invited to do these, like, live showcases for some of the producers and Lorne. And I did that for, like, a couple years in a row.

Like, I think it was, like, 2011 is when I started. And then end of 2013, I was like, I'm going to give it one more shot. But like, if it doesn't happen this time, I'm just going to go to L.A. Because I just felt like, I spent my time in New York. I was here for five years. I'm out of here. But I was like truly, you know, dipping my toe in L.A. And, like, had an apartment lined up and was, like, having all my goodbye shows at UCB,

my last improv show, my last stand-up show, my last sketch show. And then, like, a few weeks into November, I think, my manager called and was like, oh, the SNL needs a tape right now. And I was like, oh, sure. Then I sent one in. And then very quickly we had a showcase. And very quickly we did an in-person audition in the studio. And, you know, I blacked out.

So I honestly, it's making me nervous even hearing it. It's like putting knots in my stomach. Yeah. And aren't there other, like, cast members watching as well during audition? Sometimes. Sometimes. Sometimes. I've heard that they can be in there. And I would feel like that would maybe be intimidating. Like, I don't know. For me, it sounds like... I couldn't see anybody. So I... Oh, really? Yeah. That's better. It's in the studio where they do the monologues. And I couldn't see anyone. They're all like to the side. What a feeling, though. How did it feel when you first landed on that stage where they do the monologues? Very cool. Right? Yeah, very cool.

She's like, I just want to be there. She's trying to be. I. Seriously. Yeah. It was very cool. And there's a stage manager there who was there when I auditioned Chris Kelly, who was very kind and was like, you have to look straight at the camera when you auditioned. But I'll be right next to the camera. And if you ever need someone to connect with or like a smile to like make you feel better, you can look at me. And I did. And I kept looking at him and checking in with him. And he would just like giggle and laugh. And I was like, okay, I think I'm doing something right. And yeah, it was nice to have. like some connection in that moment and uh i did leave feeling like that was the best i could do like i put it all out there if they don't want me that's you know they don't want me but i put it all out there and yeah i was like one of a few auditions where i feel like i mean i did it i did it yeah that's such a good feeling yeah yeah what was the character or was it do you did you do impersonations for the audition i did some character I mean, it was a long time ago.

Yeah, no. I mean, I couldn't remember yesterday. It was 10 years ago. It was 10 years ago when I auditioned. Yeah. Right. Yeah. I don't know.

Yeah. I just went and I did a good job. Part of my journey and, you know, I'm glad to have had it. And now I'm doing other really cool stuff. Really cool stuff. Yeah. Let's talk about the cool stuff you're doing right now with your new show. Yeah.

Yeah. We're low-key witches. Good. Yeah. I love that. Yeah. Me too. I mean, kind of high key, actually. You're high key? Really? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I mean, if you saw my special, I'd talk about the history of witches and lore and stuff like that. That's my mom. Like my whole life. Yes. Yeah. And that it was actually kind of like kismit how it happened. I was just already interested in witches and women's history and all that. And I love tying history into my stand-up. And I also had heard. about a Wanda Vision spinoff and that they were going to do a focus on Agatha.

And I remember telling my reps, like, I have to be seen for this. I need to be seen for this. I just want to be in the Marvel universe anyway. Duh. For years. Yeah. And if I could do it in this way, it'd be amazing. And I feel like, yeah, but I felt like it kind of manifested it.

I got an audition. It was another audition where I felt like, that's, I did all I could do. That's the best I could do. And it was like a Zoom session with Jack Schaefer, the creator of Wanda Vision and Agatha. And it just felt so good already. Like, Jack is just such a great, brilliant creator and a very open, warm soul. So I felt very comfortable and at ease. And we just were able to, like, bounce back and forth.

And I felt like I had a good handle on the character. And thankfully, they agreed. And, yeah, that helps. Yeah. Yeah. And, yeah, now I'm away. in the Marvel universe. I mean, that's a dream.

You're living in both of my dreams, the S&L and the witch. Like that is the, that is the collab. Yeah, yeah. And Aubrey Plaza, too. Yeah, she's also witchy. I mean, this is just a dream cast.

Oh, the whole cast. Yeah, for sure. Yeah, for sure. Paddy Lopone, Joe Locke, Catherine Hawn. Like, it's just, yeah, it's like a dream of creators and actors. And, yeah, it was quite fun.

So fun. Yeah. And the whole witch, background. So you say hi key, whatever. Like, how did that start for you? Like, have you always been interested in it or? I think, I guess I've always been interested in it. I think more as an adult. Okay, it wasn't like as a child, you were like. I mean, I think I had friends in middle school that were like, I'm Wiccan this week. And, you know, yeah, I was like, cool. Me too. Yeah, yeah. But it wasn't until like in my adulthood when I'm, I would have friends give me crystals and

explain properties and stuff like that. And then lately I've been feeling more. And, I've been feeling more pool to the moon and trying to like do more research on like what the moon's doing and like what I could be doing in my life depending on what the moon's doing like you know there's certain times where it's in certain signs where it's like better to be like more proactive or better to be like more restful or you know whatever but yeah I like thinking about that stuff and even if it's not if people don't think it's like witchy I like just being um in tune energetically with like my environment and other people and stuff like that. Yeah, I think that which she has such a negative connotation, like, you know, people hear that and they think all these things. But when it comes

down to it, it's more like the spirituality and like, yeah, my mom's always going, like, paganism and like how it was and how holidays really exist. Like she's telling me in my almost 10 year old daughter, she'll always be like, well, you know, Easter really, or Halloween and like goes into it. But I do think it's really fascinating. It is. Yeah, it's very fascinating. And I think the show explores a lot of stereotypes of witches and also just ways that you can use the magic around you to create things and not necessarily like need like magic magic to create magic. Yeah, our bodies are magic. Like the plants are like it's all like the energy is just like heightened because we exist. And I I think it's cool to highlight that sometimes. I also think it's so wild when I used to so, so

when I first, I got sober like 13, 14 years ago. And when I first did, I would get like really triggered and irritated and want to drink at certain times. And then I started to notice it was around full moons to the point where I had to keep the app on my phone. Yeah. To monitor it. Almost like PMS symptoms. Like what is this feeling? And so then I found out that's really common. And a lot of of people have like they're worst drinking around a full moon. The ERs are busy or that all of these things that are statistics, they're facts. Like there's numbers in them. Yeah. And also I'm like, people will be like, oh, that's a way out there or woo-woo. I'm like, it pulls the fucking ocean. It pulls the ocean. You think it's not pulling your basically body filled with water?

We're water. Yeah, we're mostly water. Yeah. So to think that there's not some sort of on us to me is insane. Yeah. That's more insane than buying into where is the moon and what is it doing. Mm-hmm. Right? Yeah, absolutely. Yeah, it's science.

It's science. Yeah. I know. And her mom would always text like, it's a new moon. You're going to want to get your intention straight. Yeah. And it used to be a nice idea. But then when I realized, oh, wow, if it has that strong effect on my emotions and stuff,

like what else could it have a strong effect? on if you are intentional with it. Yeah. Did you see the blue moon the other day? Yeah. Yeah. It was so bright. I forgot it was happening, but it was like, like shining in my eyes.

Like it was like, I had an eye mask on. The curtains were drawn, but I was like, oh, my God, what's happening? Is there a light happening right outside my window? And I opened it and was like, oh, the moon's just bright as hell right now. It's beautiful. It's so cool. Aren't we having like three in a row or something? I was reading.

I don't know. There's something. I don't know if it's three, like, months. in a row, but within the rest of the year? Something. Anyway, there's going to be a couple more of those. There's always something. Yeah. Do you feel that kind of like communication with the moon? Do you do any sort of rituals? What's your relationship there? I really want to be a ritual girl. I really want to like, do we all. I really want to like be focused and be like, oh, it's this

time of the month and I should be doing this thing. Someone asked me the other day, they saw my crystals in the altar that I have in my house and they're like, do you charge your crystals? And I was like, I really want to be that girl. But I just can't. remember to do it. Right. But I do, yeah, I do feel a connection to it. Like, yeah, just, yeah, I think also like the moon, it also brings about more, I guess just more energy and the veil that feels thinner. And I had a friend passed recently. And on that night, there was all these things that just kept popping up, like, technology-wise that were, like, reminding me of that person and I was like, moon? What are you doing? What are you doing?

It's signs, right? Yeah, yeah. But I like that. I like, I like those little reminders and I feel like there are certain times of the year where it feels like more palpable. Right. Don't they say like in October? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Near Halloween or on Halloween. Yeah. That's when they say the veil is the thinnest. That's where it came from. Right. Right. All holidays. See, my mom's told me like my whole life and I'm like, what is the story? There's nothing more comforting. Yeah, exactly, right? The witch stuff.

Like I went to, where did I go in Boston? Oh, Salem? Salem. Yeah, have you ever been? Massachusetts? I don't think I have, actually. Is it cool? Oh, my God, it's so cool.

It's a little gimmicky in the sense that it's like all witch. Yeah, yeah. But there's something like the old architecture in the buildings and like where they actually had witch trials, like just going there, you're like, I feel something. Yeah. It's so cool. It's cool when you feel that history still there. There's not a lot of spots like that in America that exists still.

Right. Yeah, it's there. Yeah. I feel that when I go to New Orleans. I've been to New Orleans a bunch and it just feels so rich. So rich with history. Oh, my God. So much energy there.

So much energy. Have you been in New Orleans? I've never been. But tell us the story because I did catch your story on, you know, your little trip on mushrooms. Oh, yeah. What?

What? Yeah. Do tell. I did do mushrooms in New Orleans, which I would not recommend. Yeah. It's already haunted and you don't need to enhance it. Oh, my God. I stayed in a haunted house.

Well, we'll get there. Go ahead. I was with a friend and we were on mushrooms and we, at first, it was daylight. And we were like, oh my gosh, the music, the energy. It's so nice. and magical. And we saw a busker singing Change Gone Come. And we were like, wow, this is gorgeous.

And then hours past, it starts getting darker. Now everything's like a little scarier. And we saw that same busker hours later singing the same song, but like a little flat. And we were like, what is the change? What is changing? What's going to come? It was like, dark.

Something dark. It was not chill. And I remember we're standing on Royal Street looking at some paintings in an art gallery. And they were like blending. It was very cool. And I felt a rub on my back. And I thought it was my friend. And I turned.

And I was like, he was truly like five feet away from me. And I was like, did you just touch me? And he's like, no. And I was like, we got to get off the street. We have to get out of here. And in my hotel also felt haunted. Like in my room, it felt like there was like another. presence in the room. And I hope there wasn't an actual person there, but it felt like...

But didn't he feel that too? Yes, exactly. Yeah, we woke up in the morning and discussed it. And I was like, yeah, I felt like there was like another person in the room. And he was like, I did too. And I was like, I think there was a pervert. There was a dead pervert, skeezing on us. Not only was a ghost. Yeah, it was... Pervert. He's going from hotel room to hotel room, looking at it's like, what can they see? Oh my God. It was like, I love New Orleans so much, but I, you can just enjoy the energy sober. Sober.

Yeah, yeah. There's enough to go around. You don't need drugs to enhance anything at all. You feel it. There's so much energy, so much spirit, like all of it. And I stayed in a haunted house once. On purpose? No.

Wait. What? Yeah. So my ex was working there, so I was with him. And so I was just there. Like, he'd be off at work. And I would be off at work. I would be in this house, okay?

I think, now if I say this, I don't know, I think it was like Nick Cage's like old house that was known to be haunted. I think. I'm going to have to check the facts on this because if I say this, people are going to be like whatever. I mean, it sounds like Nick Cage would have a haunted house. He would only have a haunted house, probably just because.

Sounds right. It's on if it wasn't haunted before he got there. It's fit. But when he leaves, it's probably haunted. It's probably haunted. Exactly. Yeah. You guys, the energy in this house and I was alone.

Okay? I would lock myself in the one bedroom. The one bedroom that had been like modified and made contemporary or whatever, the rest of the house was still super old and, you know, very full of energy. Oh. I know. I would just lock my, even if I had to, if I was hungry, I'm like, I'm just not, I'm not going down in the kitchen.

Yeah. I would lock myself in the room every night because the, the energy and like what I would feel. And I would hear things, you know, but I would just be like, I'm fine. Staying in bed and I'm not leaving this room. It was so intense, though. I don't do well with that kind of stuff. Like, I just get really scared easily. Yeah.

I accept it. I'm not scared of ghosts. Like, they're going to do something to me. But it just get really, like, shittery. It actually comforts me. She wants to run into one so bad. But here's my logic. If that exists, so does all the light then.

Yeah. And I'm like, that's dope. If there's dark energies and there's spirits and there's all of that, then that means they're my. be guardian angels and there might be light and there might be all those other helpful forces. So I'm like that, the thought of that comforts me. I like that. Yeah.

I do think I had an angel encounter. Please tell us. Yeah. We love this. Yeah. I was in my mom's house. I think I was visiting from college or something. And I was sleeping in my childhood bed.

And I heard like a like a this over the headboard. in like a brush across my face. And I turned on the light and there was a spider across the room on the wall, like as big as my hand on the wall. And I just like snuck past it and like got my mom. And I was like, there's a spider. Could you get it? And she like just smashed it and put it in the toilet.

And I was like, do you think that spider crawled on my face and was also loud enough to like scratch the headboard, make a noise? and then flew across the room? And she was like, no, I think it was probably an angel's wing waking you up to alert you about the spider. And I was like, that's the only thing I'm going to believe. That's comforting to me. Yeah. I'd rather believe that than a spider flew across the room.

Are you really scared of spiders? Yeah. Okay. I mean, I had a feeling if it was. I'm getting better at it. I'm trying to like let them live. Yeah. And not destroy them as soon as I see them

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I didn't touch it. But like I took it outside. I didn't kill it. I know, whatever. I feel bad killing anything. But I'm also not scared of them. So, probably. Do you feel bad killing like roaches?

or ants? I don't feel bad killing mosquitoes or if you have like an ant stampede. I feel like, I know. It sounds like a double standard. I don't actually understand the double standard. What do you mean? Well, I feel like people are like never a spider. Yeah.

But other things, it's like, I don't kill any insects unless it's a mosquito who. Like if you had a big old roach in your room, what would you do? I mean, I don't know. I don't know. They all got to go. What would you do? They got to go. I would kill it. I mean, I'm sorry.

But my other question was that big of a spider, where is your hometown? Indianapolis. That's what I thought. Yeah. So, which I've never seen a spider that big before or after that moment. That's so interesting. I have no idea. I don't even know what kind of spider was.

It was all part of the encounter. Yeah. Or that was the angel and your mom killed it. No, I'm just kidding. Yeah. And your mom. She's the angel. Yeah.

I mean, she's also, yeah, from Arkansas where she's just like, get it. Yeah. She's like, get this. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. That's so interesting to me, though.

And I think those encounters are so cool. Mm-hmm. You know, and she literally is waiting for the day where a ghost just like stops in front of her. It probably has happened. It probably has. And I've been woken up and felt things, but I've never, like, seen anything.

Yeah. And my son was getting, like, really scared of ghosts. And it shifted because I was like, oh my God, if you see one, please come get me. I've been looking for my whole life. Yeah. And he was like, oh, really? He's like, it doesn't scare you. I'm like, no, just make sure to get me.

And so no, he's not scared to ghost. Oh, that's great. Because he knows we're like going to be Ghostbusters together. I'm like, wake me up. Right. Yeah. I think it's also like growing up and my mom being like, they're not going to hurt you, you know, but it was just a thing.

Yeah. Like, you know, and it does help. And I think that also helps with, like, the spite, like Briar's not scared, my daughter, she's not scared of spiders or anything. And I don't know, I don't, more is, what is it? Oh, no, that's the opposite of what I'm saying. More is caught than pot?

Well, I guess no. No, that's what, that's right. Yeah. That's what I'm like, wait, did I just do that backwards? Was it more is caught than taught? Oh, right? Like more is perceived and understood than the teaching? Correct.

I like that. Don't you? Me too. When I first heard that, I was like, oh, yeah. So like, as a parent or in friendships and relationships, We could sit there and be like, you need to X, Y, and Z, or here's how you do it. Yeah. Or live it and let them watch.

Mm-hmm. Right? And more will be extracted from that than anything you can ever bestow upon someone. Yeah. Yeah. I get that. Yeah. Are you in a relationship now?

I am. Yeah. Same guy. No. New guy. Shifts. Shifts. Shifts.

I like it. I like it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, but things are good. That's amazing. It's better than them not being good. That's true.

Right? That's true. Yeah. Yeah. Things are good right now. Yeah. How long has it been? Two years.

Oh, that's a good amount of time. Yeah. Yeah. It still has like a new energy, it seems, though. It does have new energy. It feels like that. Yeah. It feels very nice.

And yeah, we're good. Nothing really update on that. You're like, it's just, we're just, tell us what it is. I'm just kidding. Yeah, I like, you're like, it does shift. It's interesting, you know, and I'm not going to get into all my, on my shifting, but.

Shift happens. Shift happens. Yeah. That's really good. Yeah, I just think, you know, I just go back to like the more it's caught than tot, and I'm just, I don't know why I'm stuck on this insect thing, but. Oh, she really wants to get into it. I think so I always talk about insects.

What's it called if you're an insect expert? I know a herpetologist is like reptiles. Yeah. What is it? This guy, Dominic Monaghan, is like an insect specialist. He came on the podcast and broke it down. Yeah. He'll tell you what's dangerous.

He would tell you what spider that was in the dark that far away. Yeah. I'd rather know, like, okay, that one's not going to hurt me. It's fine. Right. Right. That is handy. Yeah.

It's useful. I did have, like, I think they were brown widow eggs. There was like a brown widows. Brown widows are very common. Yeah. These parts. Yeah. And they were like all over this fence near my house.

And I was like, they got to go. And I just destroyed all of them. You destroyed all the Ains? I did destroy it. Because there's a lot. Yeah. It was a lot. It was too much.

Yeah. I did not want to. They have to go. They have to go. They were all going to hatch. They were all going to hatch and just, I guess, go in my house. And I can't. I would freak out.

I would burn the whole place down. How do you feel about bees? I mean, I can't help it. I'm sorry. I appreciate what they do for the environment, and I'm so glad they are here to pollinate. I had a really bad bee problem. Like, when I got my house three years ago, they were in the wall. Oh, that's not okay.

And like the previous seller didn't tell me. What? Yeah, they didn't disclose that information. Like someone doing an inspection was like, oh, you have a bunch of bees here. And I was like, what? And then I had like three different beekeepers because I wanted to remove humanely. I didn't want them to just go scorch earth. And I had three different companies come and failed to get that completely out.

The first people, they just didn't. just angered the bees. I don't know what they did, but they were just pissed. First, they were like perfectly fine. We were like cohabitating for a while. And then every time I would like enter my home, they would start chasing me. They were so mad. They were so territorial. And then another one came to remove, I think she removed part of it, but then didn't like close the hole completely. So they came back. And then finally like some real deal professionals had this like like thermal like camera or something to like see where the movement was happening in the wall and everyone thought it was like just in this corner and it turned out to be like the whole wall it was it was like I'll show you

it was like two stories I know I want to see it of a hive that's crazy it was crazy and uh you know they made a full home for themselves and I did part me did feel bad because I was like you were here longer than I was and right and I'm the invader right but also I just feel like there's probably a home for you. So they took everything out. They like try to like like what do you call it? Like I guess defuse

the pheromones that they left behind and whatnot because they also like keep coming back to the same home. Did you have to like open your wall? Yes. You did. Okay the whole thing. Was there it was a whole hive? Was it like honey? We saw something. So see. So you had to do that. Had to do that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. There was a whole hive in there.

And honey? And honey. And they gave me a chunk, which... See, that's so cool. It was cool. Yeah. But also your walls, no. Yeah, and that all got fixed.

It was fine. Yeah. But, yeah, it was quite an ordeal. It was months and months of annoyance. And then maybe a month ago, I looked out my kitchen window, and there was a huge hive just sitting on the spot outside the wall. And I was like, oh, my God, they're back. And then I called the bee people again And they're like, they probably smelled where they used to be.

We'll come take a look. Thankfully, they didn't get inside the wall. They just were like, we know we used to be here. But then I went outside because I was like, I do want to be nice to these bees. So I went outside as close as I could where they can see me and I can see them but not be too close. And I was like, thank you guys for being so patient.

And kind and calm. I love that you're in one spot. This is amazing. There is someone who's going to come by tomorrow and take you to a better home. You had a conversation. That's really easy. A small conversation with them. I was like, so, you know, just like, if you just chill, like, you know, someone will take you to a hive that you can, like, expand and it'll be great.

And an hour later, they were all gone. What? They left. That just gave me chill. Wait a minute. That's a little witchy. That's cool. It's pretty cool.

Yeah. That's very cool. Very cool. And I was like, did they find a way inside and the bee people came? They truly looked in all the spaces. They're like, they're not inside. They are actually gone. And I think they either decided amongst themselves like, oh, we don't want to be taken.

We're just going to go. They just left. I love that story. Yeah. I love more than even the, I love the fact that you asked, how do you feel about bees? And she had that on. That's the story. You know what I mean.

I know. Funny you should ask. Yeah, I have a lot of feelings. You've never asked anyone else how they feel about bees. Never in my life. Yeah. Or on this podcast. So that was a little witchy too.

Yeah. Yeah, she knew. I knew. I felt it. Yeah. That's really cool. Did you look up the symbolization for bees? Like what that? I did it.

I should. I'm like, we should be up right now. I see one thing and I'm like, I got to look up with that. I know. Sometimes I do that. Because it's kind of means something. Probably. Especially because they came back and then you communicated with them and they left.

Like, I'm curious. Yeah, we're giving you home. Yeah, some sort of homecoming energy or I don't know. And yeah, I do like, and that's happened before. I don't utilize speaking my speech to animals and insects and things like that as much as I could or should. But when I do, it does, something does happen. Like, I, there's green parrots that fly around sometimes using them. Yeah.

And they like this particular tree in my yard. which I love, and I love hearing them and seeing them. And I also have really big crows that fly around too. And they like other trees. But there was a time where they started kind of bullying the parrots and taking over the tree that they liked. And I was like, this sucks. And I was like ranting about it to a friend in the yard.

And I just looked up. And I was like, guys, get it together. You have that tree. You have that tree. You have all these other trees to hang out in. Let the parents have this tree. And then they did. And then like, the parents got their tree back and the crows truly left it alone.

What if you're an animal communicator? You are. You're an animal whisperer. Maybe. You need to tap into this more. I would love to. Can you come talk to my dog? Have you thought about it? Her dog.

What does your dog mean? I have something. I don't know. She's crazy. Yeah. I did try talking to her the other day, though. And what happened? I told her I was sorry.

I feel like I failed her. Yeah. And that I'm going to do better and that I care about her and love her. And I'm sorry for. from my attitude. That's great. Yeah. That's nice.

She doesn't peeed in the house since I had that conversation. That works. She hasn't peed in the house since I had that conversation. Did you think about that until right now? No. Guys, I don't know what's happening. I feel like I'm on mushroom. Yeah.

I mean, I have spoken to an animal communicator before because, yeah, my partner has a dog and we were trying to talk. talk with the dog and talk about shifts and transitions and things like that. And the communicator was also like, you can just talk to your pet. Like you also can just talk because they understand you. And you can be like, hey, I'm going to be gone for like two hours. But like I'll come back when, you know, like, yeah. Just like to let them know what's happening because they're probably also like just along for the ride. And I know when I have more information, I feel better. So I'm sure if They have more information, they feel better too.

So even if you don't feel like energetically inclined or like an animal communicator, you can still talk to them and they'll get it. They'll least get tone or the words. Or energy. Yeah. They do. Yeah. I've been seeing that like if you say, I love you to your dog, I don't know, there was some,

there's all this statistics. You did? It was like on Instagram, right? I think so. Yeah. They'll like increase their happiness. Yeah. Their heart like increases.

They get excited. I mean, they do. I mean, animals understand everything. I take it to the next level because growing up, here we go again. My mom, if you wanted to pick that flower, you're asking that plant's permission. Oh, I like that. How do you do? What do you mean?

You're like, may I take you? You talk to the plant and you're like, hey, and I know people, you know, it's no when you talk to plants or sing or music or whatever and they thrive. But yeah, she'll literally be like, okay, is it okay? I'm going to pick your flower. Thank you so much. I'm very grateful for you. You know, whatever.

We're just talking to it and asking, she would ask permission. And so I still do like in my head. People around me, I'm not like talking and asking. But I do. I ask in my head. Yeah. I think it also might be like water molecules too. Like I saw this study that was like they took a bowl of water and like somebody yelled at it and said like a lot of negative things to it.

And then it took them and they did like a microscopic like view of all the molecules. And they were like jagged and angry. It looked like horrible. And then they had a bowl of water where they said positive kind things to it. And it was like flourishing. It looked like a celebration. It was like the difference was so wild. And it's like molecules.

But like there's so many things that are made out of water. So it's like if positive energy is given to anything, you're going to see a positive reaction. That goes for anything. Think about that for your self. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Because I think it is human nature to be hard on oneself.

Yeah. And we have to learn to be positive because if you think about it, you are that bowl of water. Yeah. Right? And if you're like, you sock or anything like that, it's like it changes your molecular. Did I say that right? Yeah, you sure did. Yeah.

Structure. Absolutely. Yeah. It's a lot. It's a lot. We went from, you know, like, we just figured it all. Where to God, I feel like I'm on mushroom. I do.

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Yeah. Yeah. I was so. In her youth. In my youth. Not yesterday, but I was so uncomfortable in the physical space that we were that I had to go outside and take in a bunch of nature. And I'd like put it on my body and like around. Like grass?

Like plants. You picked it and didn't ask permission, but then they didn't ask permission. But they knew they were needed. They knew they were needed. They were so needed. I had a stick and I had I had flowers. I had like a brand. around me and it was the, I could only breathe if I had that. And if I had to go to the bathroom

or anything, I would have to take it with me. I took it with me. I was, it was so comforting and it was so eye-opening because I remember really realizing that it was alive. Yeah. And I was like, this is alive. Yeah. Like, wow. It really is. Like if my kids accidentally step on the flowers, I'm like, that was, you need to, I'll say you need to apologize. Yeah. Because there are alive and you might have hurt them. Yeah. I fully support that. It is.

I had a moment like that on mushrooms. I guess I have a lot of mushroom stories, but not anymore. But I remember doing mushrooms for the first time. And it was way too much. It was like my friend made this tea and we drank the tea and then ate what was left. And it was like, I'm a beginner. That's way too much for me. So I was in outer space.

And we had, I was like, we got to go outside. I remember walking, this is in New York, and I was like walking through McCarran Park. And I remember seeing the trees and they were full cartoons, like fully, but I wasn't scared. I was just like, there they are. And I remember feeling like, oh, that's what you are. That's what you got going on in there. And like still kind of to this day, when I see a tree, I'm kind of like, I know what you really are. Like I know your true essence.

I see the bark, I see the branches and, like, you know, you're standing still. But, like, I've seen what you really can be. I've seen your full potential before. And it wasn't this. Wow. So do you think, because they've, you know, they've done studies on this where we use only a portion of our brains. Yeah. Right.

And then if you take any kind of hallucinage and that it opens up a little bit more of your brain. Yeah. So I'm like, is that all really happening? And we just don't have access to it. it. Yeah. Right? Like, I don't really know if we're hallucinating it.

Yeah. Or if we just have more access to what's really going on. Yeah. We might just be seeing something that we can't usually see. Right. Yeah. Guys, this is such, like, totally, we're hot conversation, like, stone mushrooms, whatever. Like, she did.

She did it. But it really feels that. Like, we're like, oh, my God. You know? Yeah. I think a lot of walls are taken down when you're uninhibited or like altered, which sucks because I don't want to have to do drugs to do that all the time. And there are ways to not do that. There are ways. Yeah. People, yeah. Deep meditation. I was going to say. Meditation can lead to that. All of it. Yeah. So I'm trying to do more of that. But it is cool to know that like there's there are ways to access them. I always get scared because it feels like for me, you know, when you have to just fully relinquish control. right? And like if you're committed to an eight-hour shift, we're using shift today. Yeah. Okay. You know, and like just that mentality. So like going into it with any anxiety or nervousness or whatever.

I mean, look, I've had really like very scary experiences on hallucinogens and really good ones. And I don't necessarily think it's about how I went into it. I think it's also sometimes the quality of it, the people you're with, the environment, like all of those things. For sure. Yeah. I think I feel very fortunate that I have people in my life who have been like experienced fun drug users. So I've never like, yeah, I haven't been a situation where I'm like, I don't know where this came from or like I don't know who's around me or I don't know where I am. So I think because I've had those environments, I have had.

had really good trips and felt like I've gotten something from them and had a nice time and then was like, okay, now I'm going to go to bed. Right. And that was nice. Right. But not everyone has those. Not everybody has this. Yeah.

Also, it's like there is something that happens to, which I find fascinating, which is the, like, telekinesis. Mm-hmm. Have you experienced that? No. No. I haven't. Okay.

But tell me about yours. I just mean like I remember being like, oh, we can communicate without words. Yeah. And really tapping into that place and being like, and then fact checking it later and being like, I was thinking this, what were you thinking? And then being like, I was saying we need to leave. And it was like full-blown conversations just across the room just looking at each other. Yeah. Where you're like, that probably could happen more if we tap.

more into that part of our brain that's normally asleep. Yeah. But it does happen like, right? All the time anyway. Yeah. I feel like with my close friends are people that were with all the time that happens so much. Like my, my best friend's Nicole Byer and we've been in many public places where we just like look at each other and we're like, time to leave. Yes. Exactly. How about periods sinking up? It's the same thing, you know? Yeah. No. No. It's not. I'm just kidding. It is. Yeah, being around each other for... Yeah. Yeah. No. Our periods are

talking to each other. Yeah. And with the moon. No, the moon cycle. For sure. For sure. Yeah, but that does happen. We can read each other's minds. I'm sure you can. Yeah. Finish each other's sandwiches all the time. Yeah. All the time. It's really nuts. I'm like how much more access. Like I would love to get more into how to open that up without having to use drugs for it. Yeah. I guess it is just meditation and breath work, right? Yeah. And I think there's probably practices that people can do to like

access parts of our brain that we're not using all the time. I don't know them, but I'm sure they are. I don't know them either. Yeah. I think for healing too. I remember this is like a small example, but I remember one time I was like on acid and I had really bad acne, like severe cystic, horrible acne. And I spent like a good hour staring at my. myself in the mirror and just being like, I want it to be gone. I want it to be gone. I want my skin to be clear. I want my face back. Like, I remember just like tripping out with myself for like a good hour. The next day I woke up and my friend was like, Olivia, go look in the mirror. And I was like, what? And I looked in the mirror, not a pimple. What? No, I get the chills.

You've never told me that before. Marissa was like, wake up, look in the mirror. Not. What? one pimple. Wow. And I remember being like, am I losing my mind? Yeah. Because it was so bad. I remember being like insecure.

It was so painful. Yeah. Gone. You're like acid cures acne. It's not that acid cures acne. It's the power of the brain that we don't use as much as we could for healing. Oh, of course. All of that, right?

That's the same as manifestation. It's all about that brain power, like mental power. of convincing your acne to go away. You know, I mean, that's crazy. Sorry, I've never heard that story. There's a story about Larry Bird, I think. Yeah. The basketball player.

Yeah. Where he injured himself while still in the league and couldn't play. And while he was in the hospital, he just, like, ran practices in his head. And then when he came back, it was as if he never left the court. Dude. It's crazy. But yeah, if you just like... The mental power.

It's the mental power. Yeah, you don't have to actually like... I mean, you do need to physically work out and stuff like that. Yeah. But also, your brain is a huge component to that. I'm going to get your arms by mentally... By mentally... You're going to be like, how'd you do it?

And I'll be like... I just thought about it real hard. I just thought about it. Yeah. What are examples of you... Because you said you manifested. it with Agatha, right? Like, what are other examples?

Have you been a conscious creator on those things? I'm sure I have. Well, my house, I was house hunting like a little before the pandemic and I had never bought a house before and was not excited about the process at all. I was like, I don't feel like I would rather rent for the rest of my life. I don't, can someone else think about this? I don't want to do this. And I, and when people would be like, what kind of house do you want?

Truly had no idea. I was like, I don't, I don't really know. I don't know what style I like. I haven't really seen a house where I'm like, that's my house. And then I had this realtor that showed me a lot of different homes. And then I saw one that was like kind of surrounded by nature. And I was like, that's nice.

I think I like that. And then I was like, can you show me more things like that? And then eventually we saw this house where I was like, damn, this feels good. It was like just very old school and like there's like little pockets and nooks all over the place and it had a lot of charm to it. And I was like, this has to be my house. And I put in an offer. I got beat by a cash offer. So I did not get the house. And I was upset. I was like mourning it for two weeks. And I, but I also remember telling like all my witchy friends, please put out good vibes for this house. And also when I was in New Orleans, I made a voodoo doll, which the high priestess who helped

me make it explained that voodoo dolls are not supposed to be evil. They're not supposed to be like a way to attack another person. They're supposed to be representations of you. So when you're creating a voodoo doll, you're creating a doll in your likeness. And so if you want anything in your life, you're supposed to give it resources that you want. So like say you want more money or something like that, you would put like a penny in its stomach. Or if you want good health, you would like feed it water or something. So like, yeah, you would kind of give it representations of your goals. And so I had this food doll and I remember whispering it to it being like, can you please help me get this house? I will take you with me. I just, I'm really like wanting this

to be our nest. And, and so anyway, the house went away. I was looking at it. I was looking at other houses. And then this one week, I was taking a workshop about the moon. And the instructor was asking the class, is there anyone here who has something big coming up that they want to see what the moon's doing to correlate with it? And I was like, I'm house hunting right now. And she was like, oh, okay, well, a tourist moon is actually the perfect time to be looking for a home. Oh, because it's like grounding. Yeah. And she's like, and there's a tourist moon this Wednesday. And I was like, okay, I guess I'll get my house on Wednesday. And then I was going to see a house on Wednesday.

And I was like, is that going to be my house? But before I even got to go see the house, I got a call from my real estate agents that said, the house you wanted, the offer fell through with that cash offer and you're next in line. So if you want it, it's yours. And I was like, the moon? The moon? The dog? The moon.

That's the thing. Yeah. But like that's what I never manifested so hard for something. And then I did get it. You got it. I got it. And that's the house with the bees. And that's the house with the bees.

We need to know this. I'm going to know. I have to look it up. I have to. I need to know the significance of the bees. Definitely. Because you were supposed to be there. Be there.

Be there. I mean. I also love tons. I also wonder. I mean, the way that the bees were removed. I do feel like I traumatized their house with having three different attempts to remove them and I hope that their last journey out was a nicer one

than how it started. But I also wonder if maybe they came back because I had to actually have a nice departure with them. Interesting. Like actually communicate with them and I work with them. Yeah. Do you want children? No, I don't.

Oh, okay. Well. Sorry to tell you. No. I'm just saying it. Is that what these mean? It just says bees. You're like you're super fertile.

Yeah. Fertility. Oh, it is? Yeah. Rooted in prosperity, wisdom, fertility, rooted in impressive natural talents, which is like the pollinating, the honeymaking. It's about having teamwork, thriving in teamwork.

And, yeah. I mean, I like all that. You better use some birth. control on. Hopefully it's like fertile and experiences. Yeah. Fertile in your passions.

Yeah. Yeah. You can interpret that anyway. But I love the prosperity and the wisdom and and the teamwork, working as a team and now you're part of a coven of witches.

Yeah. Yeah. There's a lot there. Yeah. There is a lot there. We just brought it back full circle. I like that. We went so many places.

We did. I don't like that. And we brought it back full circle. Did you make Aubrey Plaza get engaged in Salem? What? Oh, I don't know. I think she did. Oh, what's your story?

Well, you know she has her. What's her? We'll have to look it up. Her book. Her. The witches. Oh, the Christmas witch? Yeah, yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I love Aubrey. Yeah, me too. Yeah. I've been friends with her for a while and she's so cool.

Yeah. I think she got engaged in a river in Salem. There's some story like that. I mean, I wouldn't be surprised. Yeah, exactly, exactly. But Agatha, we're so excited about it. Thank you. I'm so excited to have met you and talked to you.

I think you're amazing. All your stories and your house and the beat. Like, it's just so cool. Thank you very much. And your special is on Hulu now. It's on Hulu now. It's called The First Woman. And, yeah, there's also a lot of witch elements in that one, too.

But, yeah. Super exciting. You're killing it. I appreciate that. I'm fertile with your. You are fertile opportunities. You are fertile with opportunities. You are fertile as fuck with work.

You are. Thanks. It's inspiring. I love your intention behind all of it. It's really cool. I appreciate that. Thank you. If you hear anything in the background, my plumbers are in the house.

Do you have a personal plumbers? Problem? I do have a problem. I think I have a broken pipe. Briar, we were draining the bath and it all started coming up in the shower. Worse. Feses? No, water.

Like branches and water. Roots. There's definitely, I have many root problems in my pipes. Not right now, though. Your hair looks great. Oh, yeah, yay. Just got to dye, right? In case you're wondering, I have socks in my lap.

Because Olivia threw these at me right before we started recording. Yeah. That was important to share. How do you feel about that? Well, I do particularly like these. I knew. I knew you would. She's like, I know these are her good socks.

So I'm going to return them Yeah, which I appreciate. I got some new socks. I'm not wearing them right now. But they're like similar to these where they're colored. And then you saw the ones that they're like kind of tie-dye. Yeah.

And I took them off after I first got them in my like... Foot was dyed? My feet and my toes were all dyed. It looked like I had painting my toenails. They were dyed like blue. Weird. I don't know. Maybe I was supposed to wash them once.

before wearing them. Did you tie to die them? No. You know what I don't have that I need is a good understanding on what color socks go with what for men. Well, Jeff will always be like,

if I'm wearing brown shoes but black pants in my stories who are black socks or brown socks or like it's like a whole thing that I don't have any intel on. See, I would do a different color all together. You just, you got to match it a little bit.

You're the opposite. Well, it just depends. Like, I'm wearing a blue shirt, so I got blue socks and blue shoes on. You did that intentionally? Yeah. This is what I'm saying. There's a whole guy culture with the socks. It's not like...

Is that true? Yeah. I don't know. I can only speak for myself. Like, are you... There's certain socks that they're going to wear dress socks with. There's certain ones that you're going to wear, like, athletic socks. Mine's just color coordinating.

Like, I'm not going to wear orange socks if I'm wearing... See, Rachel would throw in orange socks. socks on that. I would. Well, I guess orange and blue do kind of match together. Right. It's like,

cohesively, like, it would complement the other color, not like a rogue. But also, I got dirty laundry and don't have the right color socks,

I'll just wear whatever and realize that no one's going to see them anyways. That's the part I don't think is true. You cross your legs, your socks show.

I think guys know what kind of guy it is based on what kind of socks they're wearing with the outfits. Interesting. Absolutely. Explain if someone has a tube sock, what kind of guy is that? If he was wearing short socks with that, that would give us information.

And you know it. You know, so the right sock is actually important. And I want to help, Jeff, and I don't know where to turn. I mean, I have short socks, but that's what, like... Do you wear them? If... Like, one's a dope show? If you're wearing what?

If I'm, like, running the past. Peloton or exercise. Well, I heard that it's not cool to wear socks that don't show, and it's all about tube socks all the way up. This is what I'm saying. I think we need like a guy. You're going to scrunch them? I mean, mine are kind of squashed.

You're not going to pull. You think they're pulled up to my knees? How 90s of you? The kids pull them up. Yeah. Yeah. I also never. Like Elliot pulls him up.

Swag. Yeah. I almost never wear shorts, though. How do you feel about flip-flops on a guy or slide sandals. I don't care but I'm telling you. I'm telling you there's

Do you ever wear flip flops? Intel. Yeah. Do you wear flip flops? I have a pair of like sandals but define sandals like are they two straps like a bur?

No, they're the one strap over. I don't like the like an Adidas soccer slide. Yes, yes. What do you wear to the beach? Yeah, where do you wear those? I don't go to the beach. I guess I would wear those.

I don't go to the beach. wear them when I'm walking from my house to our laundry area in the backyard. So they're slippers. So you don't wear them out. It's just like outside. Yeah, I don't wear them out. So in the dead ass of summer, you're putting on socks and tennis shoes? And pants.

Pants? And pants? So we're having triple-digit weather? Triple. I might. I might wear shorts when it breaks a hundred. I don't, yeah, I'm not going to wear like, I think technically if you're wearing shorts, you should wear lower socks?

See, I don't know. Jeff wears a lot of shorts, and he wears a lot of slides in inappropriate moments, where I'm like, you can't just wear those barefooty slides to like back to school night. Yeah, I wouldn't hear that. Did he?

Absolutely. I felt weird while we were staying at Airbnb wearing my slides to just go to the front yard to get the postmates from the postmates from the postmates person. Like they would see you? Yeah. I don't want to wear these slides.

But do you think that's like outdoors? Because to me I'm like Jeff's kind of like an outdoorsy-ish person. Like he wants to go to the beach and he'll go to the beach and he'll go to the thing. Like it's like he puts on his slides to go outside and. I think beach culture totally changes all of it. Like you guys live close to the ocean and wearing singles. We don't. If he's like, his attire is like surfing.

for attire, then sure. I don't like seeing men's feet either. I don't either. So, and you don't really wear socks with sandals or slides, you're not supposed to. But you know, there's girls like this, too. Like what? Like, Maidine's not into sandals. She doesn't wear sandals.

Ever. What did she wear to your barbecue? Tennis shoes. Huh. She told me I feel like a studio city mom when I wear my sandals. Were you to barbecue? And I said, guess what I am? I did not have a barbecue.

A Studio City mom. You had a party? She had a rager and you weren't invited. That sounds like Rachel and Nadine were there. Nadine were there. Nadine came over. I was not there. It was not a barbecue.

I wasn't there. You were going to party, huh? I did not have a party. I guess we missed. I guess we missed the invite. There was no, I have not had a party. I'll have a party just for you. She totally had a party

and you weren't invited. That's what it was. Yeah. Yeah, no, she had a party. You weren't invited. That was not a party. It was George texting me last minute being like, what are we doing

for the party? What are we doing tomorrow? Yeah. Are we hanging at your house or my house? Yeah. I did not go. She wasn't invited. So I didn't go.

Neither was she. He gets so. He gets his little feeling hurt. You guys. actually should come over and hang out with us in the backyard and go swimming with the boys and have them play when you guys are healthy. I mean, Call and I are healthy. He's such a little bratty's brother.

I know. He is. She totally had a full long party. I know. I didn't. She had a Labor Day bash. She probably had flyers made for it. I did.

He had a talk of a truck. A bounce house. Calvin loves a bounce house. He had an ice house. He's going to be so. I tell him that he missed the bounce house and taco truck at your house. He can, you know what? He can have his birthday party at my house.

There's enough room in the backyard where he can have a bounce house and a taco truck. It did take him for sushi the other night. Where'd you go? We went to Uchi. He eats a lot of fish. He ate also so much food. I was so full by the end of it and he was still asking to get more. Same with Elliot.

It's crazy. It's insane. Just taking fish down raw. Yeah, kids are really adventurous these days. And when I like take him for oysters, too, it's the same. We'll have like two dozen oysters. He'll have raw oysters? Yeah, he loves oysters.

But he'll do like, we'll do 24 of them. He does raw oysters? Briars tried it. She doesn't like the texture. He's got to have the right ones. I like oysters. So do I. Only raw.

I don't like it when they're like it. No. Yeah, I don't like the. No, I like a mom with the mignette in the hot sauce. Oh, we got in a car accident. What? A couple weeks, like two weeks ago. All four of you?

No, Natalie and I were going. Babysitter had just come over. We were going to the Hollywood Bowl because local natives were playing. And we were not far from our house. And pulling up to light, we were stopped. And then we just hear this loud crash behind us. Oh, and then the car. Ripple effect.

Right behind us. then slammed into the back of us. So that was fun. So you didn't make it to the ball? We did. Did the airbags go off? No, airbags didn't go off. It was just the bumper.

Just the bumpers damaged. But the girl who hit the car behind us, her whole front was like, and we were on not a fast road. There was traffic. People were not going fast. And she just... And she's responsible for both cars.

Yeah. And then we had to, she was just crying. Aw, was she young? She was, yeah, she was young. It's so scary. It shakes you up so bad. Why is it they say accidents are always closest to home? Do they say that?

Yeah. Mine wasn't. No, you heard so. Oh my God. I had to like describe yours. I mean, I think it's just like probability of like, they say you get more comfortable and less aware the closer you are to home. That makes sense. drive more into autopilot, and so you're more prone to accidents.

That makes sense. I didn't make that up. Like everything else. We ended up race. We had to, we left after. We didn't sit there and deal with all of it, and then hurrying up to the Hollywood Bowl. And then we get to like the parking down by, we don't drive up. Like, it's a pain to ask to park near there.

And there was one of those rickshaw guys. Yeah, yeah. Just sitting outside the parking lot. And I was like, how quick can you get up? up to the Hollywood pole. So you took a rich shop? And he was like, I can get you three minutes.

Like, you know, the little things that you sit in and they like ride you up? Bike with the cart. Yeah. Oh, okay. And he was like going in the middle of traffic, like taking sharp turns around. No, I was fine.

Was Natalie? No. But we got up and got in just as they started playing their first song. Wow. That's good. It worked. Good thing you were so overly prepared that you leave.

extra early. That's what Natalie said. We were like an hour, left an hour early. Yeah. Because we were going to have to walk up the hill and it was going to take a while. I get it. Listen, I'm a planner. Well, I'm glad you guys are fine. We survived. Is your car in the shop? No, it's still here. It's charging in your driveway. Yeah, Elliot asked me, he's like, have you ever been in a car accident? And I'm like, yeah, quite a few. He's like, ever bad? Did you ever get hurt? And I was like, no. He's like, Is anyone you know ever been hurt in an accident? And I was like, well. And he made me...

You did not tell him about... You described the accident to him? Rachel's accident? Yeah. Did you know her when that happened? It's like nightmare inducing. He was fine. Well, maybe you didn't...

I didn't go into, like, great detail. I just said you were in a scary accident. And that you actually, like, when I... unconscious and the blood was gushing. Did you know her when the accident happened? Yeah, like I knew. You knew like of the accident. You absolutely knew of the accident.

And I knew the other people in the car. He kept asking questions and I was like, what am I supposed to say? You told him, I'm just so curious. I told him that you got in a bad car accident because a car, the car on PCH swerved into your lane or you swirved into their lane someone swirved into someone. I wasn't driving

to be clear. No, I'm just stating. I was only 14. I mean he knows car accidents of course, but that one is so extreme. I didn't go into like insane detail but I let him know that you were in a bad car accident and you survived it.

I think it was comforting for me. Right, because it was bad and I'm here. Yeah. in your perfect condition. So much. Nothing cognitively is wrong with Rachel Everson said accident. So bad.

My mom thinks the attention stuff was because of the car accident. That's what I... What if you were... Oh my God, I've told you that 10? Rachel Sarah fucking Bilsen. She was like perfect like Mensa child before that accident.

I've like sat her down. I've actually called your mother about that and been like, I'm concerned and I think it's from the action. Accident. Really? Yes, I've told you that like 300 times that I want you to do the aiming clinic and get your brain scan because I think the car accident created not. There's nothing they're going to do now. The like tissue and stuff is all. Absolutely not. So when Jeff's brain scan came in, it showed severe head trauma from years of wrestling and they have him doing hyperbaric oxygen chamber taking certain supplements. There's different. things. She doesn't want to get them. No, she doesn't care.

I don't want to what? Get help. Get better. Then I won't have an excuse for not remembering anything. Yeah, she's like, someone once told me that they like my hair better dark. On Instagram. Like, you know, there's like an ick page. And one the other day was seeing a guy walk out of Starbucks with a Frappuccino and drinking

it with a straw. Is that an ick? I don't know. It's not like I never thought of it. It's just funny when you read them and what are icks to people? Like someone's like they walked out with a frappuccino. With a straw and drank it like Casper. I bet tube socks is on there.

An ick? I like tube sock. I'm seeing on guys like some sort of sock thing that we need to know the information on are probably icks. Like, there's nothing like you watching a guy walk out of Starbucks with a frappuccino in his hand. Like, sipping on his green straw.

Like, I don't know. It made me laugh. That is funny, but it doesn't ick me. No, it doesn't ick me either. I'm like, oh, he's trying to look. How do I? Don't be nice. Don't buy a train ticket?

Oh, wait. We have something to clear up. What? He has some beef with Chris Sullivan? Yes. What? Chris Sullivan. Oh, yeah.

Wait. He said that we said that we like it when guys are mean. And then Mandy was like, no, no, no. I mean, you guys have said that. You guys like being teased and when people are mean to you. No, not mean. You have. No, no, no, no.

We like being made fun of it. There's a difference between being mean to someone, which we are not okay with. We do not like it. Sure. I don't think Chris thought. that like you guys like to get beat up. I don't think that's what. We love Chris.

We're super down for Chris. It felt a little serious. Like he really may have thought we liked it when guys were mean. Sterling came in and was like, no, it's the nagging. Yes. I like to be teased a little. He liked when they're mean to you. No.

No. Like, give an example. An example is like being made fun of in a way. way that's like playful and like cute but still flattering because it's like calling something out that's like cute yes you know yeah like when you like pinches your belly fat no what do you give an example you give an example i'm trying to think i hope your examples is just really mean and ruthless when he like calls me a stupid bitch no no Like, what's one?

It's just a little pig of the ponytail on the playground. Pig of the ponytail? I know what I said? Fuck, my brain. Wait, this, it's a pole of the ponytail on the playground? Yeah. Just a little, like, playful, like teasing. No, like a playful teasing.

I'd have to think of an example, but no, to clarify, it's never mean. We are not down for mean. We're not after mean. Someone that can be playful and, like, joke with you about things about yourself that are like maybe funny habits, but like, yeah, all in good humor. Like pulling your hair. Rob, out of anyone, you should understand because you don't ever stop nagging. And that's not true.

At least you're playful with us. That's why we love you. That's why we're comfortable with you is because it's not like, it's just, we both grew up with older brothers. Yeah, it's just like a little like, teasing, it just feels like... Yeah, when I tease it's not mean things. That's what I'm saying.

Right? Right. Right. Right. Right. She gets kind of mean, but... I do not get mean? No. Not my rape. I feel picked on. She's like, I like it.

All right. Thanks, guys. That was a hate gum podcast.