Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - Skylar Astin on Musical Theatre, LeBron, and Flatulence

Episode Date: April 15, 2024

Skylar Astin [Pitch Perfect, Wreck-it Ralph, 21 & Over] talks to Rachel and Olivia about how he got into acting, summer camp movies, and the new season of So Help Me Todd. They also discuss summer camp movies, farts, and public urination.Broad Ideas is supported by Quince. Go to Quince.com/ideas for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.Broad Ideas is supported by IQBAR. Get 20% off all IQBAR products. Text IDEAS to 64000. Message and data rates may apply. See terms for details.Broad Ideas is supported by Storyworth. Right now, save $10 on your first purchase when you go to storyworth.com/ideas.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Hax is back for its fifth and final season, and so is The Hacks podcast. Join the Hacks creators and showrunners, Lucia and Yellow, Paul W. Downs, and Jen Statsky as they unpack the Emmy-winning comedy series. On each episode, hear stories from the set, what goes on in the writer's room, and how these beloved characters close out their final season. Watch Hax streaming exclusively on HBO Max and listen to The Hacks podcast on HBO Max or, wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to Bridey's. Hi, Rob. Hi, Rob.

Hello. Listen, Skylar Aston is on with us today. Yes, he is. What a delight. Truly. Okay, people know him from Pitch Perfect, but his current show, so help me Todd. That's what we were talking to him about.

And, yeah, let's just get to him because he's a lot more entertaining than I am. Sometimes when the way inside of Rachel's little brain All these thoughts are swirling Round and round inside To join us on this journey As we take a little ride We'll talk about dogs and kids and things We'll talk about chicks and tampon strings

We'll talk about boys that are need Because people die That fun stuff in the world We'll just stop talking. Let's just do the whole thing silent. Let's do, yeah, let's do a new take on podcasts. I would love that. How do you feel about podcasts? I like them.

I like that it's relaxed and that it's not too, you know, like planned. Sometimes talk shows or whatever. You have to kind of have a bit of a script. I have, that's my biggest pet peeve is like the pre-interview. It's like, wait, this is not organic. It is organic for me in the pre-interviews. And then they're like, remember when you came to that very natural punchline of your story? Yeah.

And I'm like, fuck, I got to hit that punchline. Yeah, right. And then you're in your head and you're like, oh, now I have a script in my mind that if I don't, so I'm out of the moment. I'm just thinking about these other things. And I just really feel like they should come up with something else. Yeah, potentially. I'm going to tell them. You tell them. Do you get like that with rehearsing? Like, like you don't want to over rehearse kind of thing. Yeah, like you more like you hold it back and then give it or do you like to go all the way there and rehearsal?

I'm a theater guy. So I like to like to like. I like to either a rehearse, but be like I'm not somebody who doesn't give any things. I very famously, when I'm on a show or something like that, give all of it in the table read. Because I think that it's like, not because I'm trying to like earn my paycheck, but I really want to kind of serve the writing and see if it works. And I've done a sitcom before and that's like really part of the job. It's you're really screwing over the writers if you're not digging in. So I even bring that to like single camera stuff, which I know a lot of times with those kinds of tonal things. Some actors are like I'm saving my choices. I'm saving money.

Like, I'm willing to make a mistake. So sometimes I'll bring it. Yeah. It's only, I only know one way with that stuff. What's the secret to sitcoms? It's the hardest thing to break into. Really? I'm asking.

I love, it's my favorite gig I've ever done. Well, you know, in a way. Because for me, it's like, your job, right? Like if you put it that way? Because it's, it was the, I did this, um, the creator of Ted Lassow and scrubbed. Bill Lawrence had this show called Ground Floor.

And I did that for a few years. and it was just really fun because you are, for me, it's theater, TV, and it's live in a way, but it's also not. So I get to, like, cheat out to the audience, but also I get to face a camera. I just, to me, it was such a great gig, and it just worked for my skill set. Like, I know a lot of actors that that's terrifying for. Right. But I was like, if anything, I prefer this. I prefer to like.

It's more like a theater background. A little bit. Right. And being open to, like, changes on the spot, which happens all the time if it doesn't get a laugh. But, yeah, I don't know this. secrets of breaking in. It's just like, if you're lucky enough to get one, it's a great gig, and the hours are really good for an actor. I'm aware. It's the dream. That's why I'm always like, you know, because they're so hard, like, oh, you've never done a sitcom before, but it's like,

no, you know. You'd be a delight. Yes, she would be a delight. Thanks, let's put that out there. Yes. The Rachel Wilson Show. Yeah, the sitcom. Rachel's. Yeah, but you come from theater, obviously. So you were born in New York City. Oh, but like just outside of New York City. Oh, well, it says New York City online. I don't know. Who lied on Wikipedia. Who did it? Yeah.

But not me. Not me. But still, it's a rarity to grow up in New York City? No, like, I grew up in, so it was like, the best of both worlds because I was like 45 minutes out. Okay. But my dad did commute every morning. So like he, we are that close to the city.

Right. And I would even, once I started doing theater like around high school age, I would, I would even like commute for like voice lessons or auditions and stuff. And I was like a 17 year old borrowing my, my parents' car. to like drive into the city yeah i like i'm very i'm very good at driving in like a florence or like cities because i grew up kind of like navigating new york city and i prefer that in a weird way yeah the controlled chaos of like there's no lanes you just get around the thing you just figure it out yeah wow so that started early so high school you started doing theater in new york

yes was it like your whole life you started off like when you were young like i want to perform or what was But that was it. That was it. When I was younger, I had a total, like, ordinary upbringing. And I played sports. And the only, like, artistic outlet I had was I like to play piano. I was kind of, we had a piano in our house. So my mom was like, you're going to learn this.

I was like guitar. And she's like, you're going to learn this. And so I learned piano. And I liked it. But that was my only, like, musical or artistic outlet. And then when I was, like, 13, 14, my mom, again. kind of like convinced me slash bribed me into auditioning for the local community production of Godspell. And I was doing basketball at the time, so I don't know how I would really juggle both.

And then in order to make me audition, she kind of bribed me with the local Italian place that I really liked. She was like, we'll go there. And we were running late, like we were running late anyway because we were coming back from basketball practice. And I didn't know at the time that theater runs late or like auditions run late. So I was like, oh, this is great. I'm going to get to go to this audition, not have to actually do anything. And I'm going to get this free Italian meal. And then it turns out they were running late.

I was in my basketball clothes full, you know, Jack Ephron before high school musical vibes. And just because I was a boy, I defaulted to getting like a big part. And I could sing. And I always liked singing. And so, yeah, my life did a full. 180 at that point. And I got so bitten by the bug. All I wanted to do was theater. I was like, you know, I went from some sports stuff to doing like two or three plays at a time, you know, and juggling all that. And then, yeah, and then I started kind of going into the city every once in a while to do

like more professional auditions. And that just kind of led me to my first big break in New York, which was spring awakening. That was like my big. I mean, I know that side is wanting to tell. Which was for the people listening at home. This amazing. Play called Spring Awakening that I was attached to since the workshop phase and went all the way to off-Broadway, to the extensions to Broadway. Oh, wow. And then, you know, the Tonys and the Grammys and all the... Did you do it when Leah Michelle did it?

Yeah. Okay. We were the... OGs? No way. That's incredible. How old were you? 17?

I was, yeah. I mean, I think my first workshop, I was 16. But yeah, when we started doing it in production, it was 17, 18, and a little bit of 19. Wow. It's unbelievable. That's crazy for a 17-year-old. I mean, because, you know, the hours, like, everything, the commitment of that. It was a lot.

It was also a very, like, physically draining and emotionally draining show. I had, like, stress fractures in my feet. Oh, jeez. How long did it take to heal a stress fracture? I still deal with it. I still deal with it. Are you dealing with the stress fracture yourself? You're like, these are the, back to the hoaxies.

No, like, this is the reason why I have hoax. I don't know if it's stress fractures. That's why I asked. Stress fractures are such a weird thing, too, because they're, like, there's nothing to do. You can't, like, cast it. You can't set it. They're like, no, there's just bones. So you've got like thousands of bones in your feet.

Yeah. Couple are kind of like out of whack right now. So just rest. You're like, they keep telling her it's not a stress factor. Yeah, I've had MRI x-rays. I mean,

it's a mystery. And so what? It just like bothers you when you're walking. It's specifically a toe. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. And I literally,

it hurts so much to walk. And it's been since November. I don't like that for you. Thank you. I really don't like it either. No one has an answer for me. And I thought you had the stress fracture experience. I was going to.

I thought you could solve it. I was like in my kind of heel area like under there. Yeah. I used to jump off of a ladder every night. Oh, on to dress shoes, which was actually the toughest part of it all. Oh, God.

Because we were, the play, we were like these German teens in 1891. And when the music... That's a spring awakening? Yes. It's a very dark play, actually. It's based on an actual play from that time.

Yeah. And it was banned for 100 years, the actual play due to its kind of like provocative nature. Oh. And then... Yeah, people get naked, right? People get naked. Like, there's sex.

There's, there's, we deal with a lot of, like, really tough issues. I know. Imagine actually going on a press tour at 18 or 17, not a press tour, but, like, their media training, you being like, so anytime they mention, you know, suicide and all the, they're race. You just have to say, but it's also a show about hope. And, you know, there's one song at the end where we kind of, because it is true, because then you'd go right in and expecting. And people would be like, so, suicide. rape and teen sex. Tell us more. And we're like, well, we're also trying to sell tickets. We're like tourists. And it was obviously so much more than that. But yes, the play was very

controversial. And then they adapted it into a musical in the 2000s. And so it was a very repressive play. The adults were very repressive. That was the point. If you don't talk to your kids about the stuff, they're left to their own devices. And they will be educated in the wrong way and make some poor choices and have some bad things happen to them. And so what would happen in the musical was when things would get too intense for the kids and they felt that pressure, the entire like pastoral Bavarian German set would turn neon. And then we would rock music would play. And then we would pull these handheld mics out of our lapels and be the 21st century versions of our characters kind of commenting through rock, through like, you know,

theater rock music, uh, about like the situation and then kind of return right back to the play. And so it's like people really connected to that and they connected to the teen angst and they connected to the expression. Yeah. And it was just a perfect pairing with the original play to adapt it into this rock musical. So we were definitely like hitting it pretty hard. And I was the one in rehearsal who was very like excited by the high flying stuff. So I became known as kind of the high flyer. which eight shows a week is like very painful. So that's the thing.

Like there's this moment during this one song called The Bitch of Living where I climb on this ladder and I jump off in like a rock and roll way. Yeah. But just after, you know, now I know when I'm creating a track for myself to like be mindful of. Right. Even like, hey, you are landing a lot on your right. Like maybe let's do one where you land on your left. Because if you do that, a few thousand performances of that, like you're just all of a sudden.

I'm like, here we go and ow, oh, my God. Oh, my God. You know. By the time when you were done with it, were you ready for the next chapter? Or were you not ready? I was. I was because the original cast started trickling off kind of one by one. And then, and it was like six people over the course of a few months.

And then there was like the five of us that were left. And we all made the conscious decision to leave together. And to give like all of our replacements, the opportunity to rehearse with with each other. Because when you're going in one by one, and I've now, for the first time, replaced, and it's so hard. Because you're like, in rehearsal with yourself,

maybe there's some understudies who help you along the way. A lot of times you're not working with the actual director. You're working with a stage manager who kind of tells you where to be almost, you know, for memorization reasons. But sometimes you're like, well, why does he cross left tier? And then only, like, later in the run,

the director will finally show up and be like, you know why that actually happens, right? because in rehearsals we were always saying and you're like, I wasn't there for that. Right. And so there's a little bit of a disconnect. And so when people get literally thrown into a well-oiled machine and they just have to go on for the first night, we're always supportive. But like, it is nice to be able to have a bit of an ensemble to like go in with. And so we thought that that was like a nice thing to do.

And we were also ready to leave together. It was I thought it was like best of both worlds. Right. So when did the transition happen from theater to television or film? Well, once I was, so when Spring Awakening was kind of like having its moments, you know, you're the show that everyone's kind of coming to see. And these like auditions for these big projects would come up and we would all go after the same thing. And I auditioned for this movie called Hamlet 2 that ended up going to Sundance and I got it. Wait, I think I remember that.

Sorry. If you remember Rock Me, Sexy Jesus, that was the commercial all the time. It's the South Park people wrote it. So there's this like musical element of it. Okay, okay. Where we basically write a sequel to Hamlet because the theater department is failing at the school. And so we're like, I know what we'll save that. We're going to write a sequel to Hamlet, which, if you don't know, everybody dies at the end of the first one.

So it's about Jesus and there's a time machine and it's just ridiculous. You know, yes. As Shakespeare would have intended. Exactly. Rolling right over in his grave. I mean, it was very irreverent and it was the year after Little Miss Sunshine came out and it was the same producers. And so it did very well at Sundance. It didn't do very well in theaters, but it's kind of become a deep cut that, like, people will come up to me every once in a while.

And it just, like, lightens my, it brightens my movie. Because it's just like, I loved it. That was my first movie ever. Yeah. And then after I went to Sundance and, like, did well there, that's when I was signed out of Sundance. And then there's the pilot season of it all. And I was lured out here. And then I've just kind of been out here.

And then always go back and do theater. You do? Oh, yeah. Okay. I love it. So you're based here. I am based here for the most part. Yeah.

Though so only Todd shoots in Vancouver. I was going to ask you where you shoot. Okay, so you're in Vancouver. Yeah. Which I feel like out of all the places, it's only like a two-hour flight. Like it's at least a little easier, I think, to... Yeah, I've been in Vancouver now because my... The show that I shot right before this also shot at this on the same stage as the current one.

Oh, that's wild. It's definitely, yeah, a mind screw because I open up like stage three. And I'm like, here we... Oh, my gosh. I'm like expecting the workplace that I worked at. And it's a totally different set. It's crazy. Oh, wow, that's so crazy.

I'll send, like, selfie videos to, like, the cast and the creatives of Zoe's to being like, can you believe? So Zoe's that. Peter Gallagher was on that. That's right. Mr. Sandy Cohen. I love that guy. So much.

He's great. I love him. That show was great. Yeah. We love doing it. Did you do one or two seasons? We did two seasons and a movie. And a movie?

I remember the movie. It got unceremoniously canceled as things do. Yeah. and was just the victim of a bit of a regime change at NBC. And then, you know, and then there's like the uproar and they're trying to shop it around. And then Roku, of all people, decided to like buy the rights so they can have it on their. And they were also like, and we'll wrap your series up with a movie. And there was like a Christmas special and we got to kind of do a season's worth of material in like one.

So fun. That's so fun. Yeah. Very rarely. It was very bittersweet for sure because we're like, oh my God. We're like going to, why should we? We wish we were still doing this. We were like getting nominated for things like after it was canceled,

which is always weird. It's bananas. It's always kind of weird. Out of all of the different things, the theater, sitcom, what's your favorite? I guess like the easy answer is theater, but it's become a thing where like, I won't say like one can't exist without the other, but I do utilize like all of it and kind of I can't part with any of it. But I also can't do. You don't have to. Yeah, right.

But I always got to ask like, what do you have to? Because everyone's talking to, well, what do you pick? What do you choose? What's your favorite? And I'm always like, honestly, I, they really inform each other. And if I did theater just exclusively forever, my body would break. And if I did TV exclusively forever, like something else would break. Like, it's just a different kind of grind and in a different kind of skill set.

So I like to kind of go back and forth as much as I, as much as I can. Was it hard for you to adjust? I think going from theater to film for me specifically was actually a really natural adjustment. It was a stupid moment where I was reading in that Hamlet 2 movie, my first scene ever on camera, there was a really long lens, which I didn't even understand how cameras worked at the time. It was super far away. And I guess that they were like shooting through people, but they could see me very clearly in the frame. And I'm supposed to be reading the school paper, a review of our high school play at the time.

And I'm furious because I'm this, like, type of. drama kid. And I guess I was like holding, I was kind of burying my head a little bit in the, in the newspaper. And I realized when the DP was like, hey, Skyler, calling from across the quad, like, bring your head up. And then it was just like that relationship to camera and the presentation of it all. And just that, I think it's just the relationship because you can't be too aware of

the camera. But like when people say that they're method actors, it's like, well, you do have to hit a mark. Yeah. There's technicality. You have to be in focus. Which I find hard. I was telling Rachel that. I was like, I feel like it's so technical.

I grew up doing theater, too. So it's like you're used to playing something out in entirety. Right. Like you get to do a whole scene and a whole play from beginning to end and your character goes through everything. And then you go do TV or film. And they're like, okay, here's the last scene. Oh, yeah.

And you're just going to do this. And they're not even over there. So it's like, what door am I coming from? I don't even know what's happened. I'm about to film tomorrow. I'll be on set in another. country, starting a new episode. And I, and a lot of times it'll happen from like a Wednesday to a Thursday or, you know,

thankfully, I didn't shoot, like I shot my last day of the previous episode before coming here. And now, yeah, I got to dive right in. And I think we're starting on like scene 30. And then I go to scene two and then scene whatever 29A or whatever that's going to be. And it's just, yeah, tracking, tracking. You always have to know, like, where you're coming from and where you're, going to both physically and like mentally. But it's yeah, it's a bit of a puzzle, which is kind of interesting. Yeah. It's just like this whole their skill set. Yeah. Are you the only one in your

family that is in this world? Yeah. So your dad was in? My dad like worked, still does, like worked in the garment industry. That's what I thought. Yeah. And you have three siblings? Three siblings. Yeah. That's a lot. Yeah. There's a lot of siblings. Yes. My older brother is in fashion. My younger brother's a chef. My sister. I know. Cool. Cool fam. And then my, my, my sister. is a teacher. She teaches twice exceptional kids. And, yeah, and is also in grad school. Is that a term?

Is that a situation where a lot of her kids are on the autism spectrum and a lot of her kids like are brilliantly like super, super, super genius level in one subject and then very, very remedial in another. Wow. Is that an actual term though? That's twice exceptional, yeah. Twice exceptional. I've never heard that.

I've never heard that either. Wow. That's really fascinating. name. I think that's what we are. Yeah, right? We have a name for a lot. We're not just exceptional. It's only in one thing.

And they're all East Coast? Yes, they're all New York. They all stayed in New York. Yeah, they didn't leave like I did. But New York's still my home, though. Yeah. I will definitely reside there and go back for sure. You'll reside there.

I will reside there. I will reside there. No, I think like there's a world in which I like fully move back. Yeah. Oh. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see when.

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That's IDEAS to 64,000. Message and data rates may apply, see terms for details. So I'm a musical nerd, okay? Like, obsessed. But you didn't grow up with musicals because, like, you started later, like, your mom and the thing and the audition and... Yeah, but I was a fan.

You were a fan. Did you watch them grow in? Oh, like movie musicals and stuff? Yeah, like movie musicals. Yeah. She wants to sing with you. No, I don't. She does. She wants to sing with you.

I know you performed like a song from Bye Bye Birdie, which was like a huge. So I grew up watching all movie musicals. Got it. Like my great grandma was like, showed me everything and played on the piano. And like, so it was a huge part of my show. I don't talk about it much because sometimes people are like, oh, you like musical? Yeah, but those people suck. No one does that.

They do. I mean, they're just not joyful. It's like, oh, my God. You like Disney? Oh my God. Do you like this? Oh, no. You like joy?

Right. Yeah. Our other best friend, Leah, like we lived together and we would sit in the bedroom and at the top of our lungs sing every musical. As you do. For hours straight until one we heard neighbors slam their window shut. And I was like, oh. And they're like, enough with the footloose. Maybe it's not such a beautiful morning after all.

Yeah, exactly. I mean, I think that, I don't know, in general, I've been unapolitan. I mean, like, myself and never been afraid to be, like, nerdy or, like, what people would call effeminate or anything like that. Or, like, it's not cool or not popular to do the musical or whatever. And I just, I don't think, I don't subscribe. I think it's a lot weaker to not like, to, like, not like the thing that so obviously could be considered corny or uncool.

And I actually think that, like, musicals are considered corny because there's a lot of them that, like, take for granted that transition from speaking to singing. And yeah, a lot of times it comes across as a little corny. I love it. I love it. I love it. Right. Exactly.

But when it's executed perfectly. Yeah. And that transition is like. Yes. From a really emotional place. Like, there's no higher art form in my opinion. I agree. What's a perfect example of that?

Do you have one? All the Sondheim musicals, if you know Sondheim. Yeah, of course. Like Sunday in the park with George and Sweeney Todd and into the woods. I think Chicago does it well because there's like a reason why they're singing. There's kind of a vaudeville aspect of it. Yeah. I think like those kinds of musicals really nail it.

They do. You should do, you should do. If I could do musical theater, I would do it. That's it. Right. Oh, but I can't sing. You can sing. I don't understand why you don't do it.

Well, anyway, my daughter is, she's in third grade and she's in the school musical. So cute. So cute. Last year they did into the woods, but she was too young. But anyway, they're doing Shrek Jr. And you know what she's saying for her audition? What? The cup song.

Oh, that's adorable. Did she do it with the cup? No, but she didn't. She can't. Do you do it? I don't know it with the cup. You can't do the cup song? I very proudly don't know it.

You're like, I stand firm that I will never. It's not my song. I mean, I know the beginning. That, that, da, da, da, that, that, that, then I fall apart. Then you fall apart. Because there's like an undercup. And everyone's like, oh, it's so easy. Let me teach it.

I cheat it. The point is that I don't. You're like, I purposely will never learn it. And I will say. I do cheat it because, like, I can still get the beat in there. Yeah, of course, of course. But, you know, they are singing, like, you know, a couple bottle of whiskeys for the way, and my daughter's singing it.

And I'm like, yep, you know, it's a song. Yeah. All right, third grade music teacher. Yeah. She's just like lonely at a bar drinking a cup of glass of whiskey. I lived a hard life. She's lived a life. She's like, look, I'm going for Princess Fiona.

I've seen a lot in my day. I've seen a lot. And I'm perfect for the part. That's so cute. It's so cute. I fully encourage it. And she's loving it. And I think it's so.

It's the best outlet for kids, too. I think it's the best outlet for anyone. Yes. We should just put on her own musical. Let's do it. Well, there is something really amazing about, I even talk to actors all the time that, like, have never done any theater. And I'm not saying like, oh, you're going on Broadway, but it's like any, the feeling

and community, regional, whatever, of putting on a play. Not that it's very exciting, but, like, it teaches you a lot. It is exciting. It's so exciting. I had the best drama teacher in high school. There's a lot of kids that came out of my high school. Like, Rami, Malik, and I were, like, together with our, whoa.

I mean. Big deal. Yeah. Yeah. Amazing. Kirsten Dunst, Kat McPheat. Like, there's so many, you know, that kind of came from the school in the Valley. We grew up in L.A.

Sure. But it was. I'm putting that together now. Sorry. I mean, it wasn't clear. But, yeah. Yeah. But no big deal.

But she was amazing and just being part of that community. And it was like real theater, you know, a little black box. Oh, yeah. The commitment, you know, the hours, the time together, the exercises. And that's where I, like, first was like, oh, I like this. Yes. You know, and it was just so cool to have that experience. So I agree with you.

I think, like, anyone should at least try that because it's really just, like, the coolest thing ever. And it's super vulnerable, too. It's, like, kind of scary also. You learn so much about yourself and your process. And, like, I don't know, there's something that gives you a bit of anxiety of being kind of changed at the stage. like you can't leave. You have to do this. No, I like that though.

But yeah, it's something to get over as an actor. You break it up into little small pieces and you can call cuts and all the kind of things. Right. I don't know. It just is a different kind of work ethic that I notice in theater people. I will say, like as I've gotten older, because you know the anxiety that comes with it, right? Like, I think now I would be way more anxious and aware than it was when I was younger. Like high school or whatever, you just go out.

You're not thinking about it. Same thing for like talk shows. Like right before I go on, there's that split second of like, am I going to have panic attack? Or am I just going to go out there? That's less like my life, but yeah. You know what I mean now? But I feel like as you get older, it's like your mind fucks with you more or something. Completely. But at least you see, but the

difference is at least in the theater you have the lines. You know, like the talk show, there's the pressure of like, what am I going to say? There's something about repetition in the theater as well. Like I just talked to the lead of Zoe's extraordinary playlist, Jane Lee, which just did her

first play. I'm saying for a year and heirs. I was like, you will want to Tony. Like she's such an incredible actress. And she finally did, she did POTUS out here. And she was like, she would call me like in Tech Week and in the VITDAress. And she's given me the whole thing. And I'm kind of the old prospector being like, oh, don't you worry. Like, you're exactly where you should be. She's like, we haven't run it yet. And like, I don't even know what I'm doing, but I'm also kind of having the best time, but also like, I feel like we're not ready. I'm like, you'll never feel ready. No, you'll never. It's like having a fit. And then, yeah,

right, which I don't know about, but I can imagine. And then, and then, and then, and then, and then, And then, you know, her first show, she's like, hey, randomly, like, it kind of went really well tonight. Second night, she's like, it was a weird. Then, like, I get a text in a couple days being, like, theater's the most incredible thing. I've ever done in my life. I've learned everything. And now it's, I was like, now it's just your show, right? She's like, yeah, now it's just my show.

It's making me want to do a fun of life. Same. I love it more than anything in the whole world. Like, the chaos. Everything. And feeling like there's no way this is going to happen. And then it's, like, magic. Yep.

And then that roller coaster of like, to me, one of the hardest things was not depending on the audience and, like, having nights where you're getting so many laughs or so much. And then the next night, it's quiet. And you're like back there and you can feel it. And you're like, fuck. Yeah. But then they walked away and they're like, I was moved. Literally. They just happened to be quiet.

You said something that I want to go back to. You said that you don't subscribe to that. So when you decided you liked musical theater or theater in general and all the things that come with that, you decided I'm not subscribing to that. I would like to know how you did that because I think about my children or kids. Like I think that that is one of the biggest lessons in life is what do we subscribe to and what do we choose not to? How did you decide at a young age to just not subscribe to that boo-ha? I don't know. I feel like I could probably sit here and say something that'll make me seem super strong because it's like so much easier said than done, especially like revisionist history when you're like looking back on it. You're like, you know, you just can't care what the other kids think. It's like, no. That's, that's really hard. And I can imagine as parents, you probably tell your kids, you're like, you'll see. None of it matters. What's really cool is to not care. But it's like you just can't say that. It's just not their reality when their entire life is that thing that they're, stressing about. I don't know, maybe I was just holding fast to the belief that I loved it so much

and I was scared of it for so long and I was a fan of it that once I got over that initial fear, I started meeting people and like the kids that were in the drama department that we didn't have to go. And I was lucky enough to have like friends that were seemingly popular and like athletic and what is known to be popular in my hometown. But then I would hang out. and have even better experiences arguably with the theater kids on a Friday night, sitting around a piano with the book, with the songbook and like doing kind of like piano karaoke's. And like that became my favorite. That's all I wanted to do.

I like went away from all of the high school like Mishigas. And I just, rather than driving around looking for how to buy beer, you know, illegally. And I just like saw. I did have an amazing ability to kind of. see the future like in a night when like friends would be like we're going to do this. I'm like, that's not good. That party will be broken up by that time. You'll all be scrambling for a place to go.

You won't want to go home because you're going to have to, you know, no one wants to go back to their parents when they're trying to like, you know, be mischievous and young and whatever. And I thought that that was actually kind of like not uncool, but definitely like very limiting. And I just, I just saw no interest in that. I never had like a true college experience. And I know a lot of people do. where they've gone to the same bar every day for four years.

And then they actually miss that bar and talk about all those times at that bar. I would go visit my brothers in a big school. They went to Indiana University. And even after the weekend, I was like, we're going to that same freaking place again. You know what I mean? It's like it felt like Groundhog's Day. So to me, I was so inspired by the people that I was with

that maybe now I see it as like I didn't subscribe. I just wasn't, I wasn't paying it. I was tuning that out and tuning more into the, the experiences that I was having. Wow. That's, no, but there's so much wisdom in that. That is like, like you said, you could say something that makes you sound strong, but what you did was you said something that made you sound incredibly wise,

which is, that's it. It's like crowding in instead of crowding out. It's not about not focusing on that and unsubscribing. It's about tuning into the focus instead of the distraction. Yeah. Right. I want my kids to do with them. It's hard. It's hard.

But it also took, it takes like a love of something. Like I loved it so much that I just didn't care about what was considered cool or not. Yeah. And then so much so that like then when it was time to actually do the high school play, I was actually really excited to like have like the kids that I played with on the baseball team come. Because I was like, and there I was like, oh, you're going to make fun of it in the first act. And then the second act, you're going to be like, yeah, that was pretty cool. You, like, died and, like, that was insane.

Like, I thought you were dying up there. And I, like, appreciated, like, bringing together those kinds of two worlds. I love it. I know it's cool and the confidence, too, because, like, you said, you weren't worried about, like, what made you seem, you know, like, different and feminine. Like, whatever it was, like, being that age and getting into it, too. Because I think a lot of kids would feel the pressure of what other people think. I just thought that the people I was hanging out with were just the coolest. Like the absolute coolest.

And then I got to go to Stage Door Manor Performing Arts Camp. And like those kids I would connect with and they would tell me, yeah, it's hard at home. And like I'm dealing with, you know, I'm gay. And like, you know, no one in my family, no one in my town is. And that's hard. And this is where they would go to be accepted. And so I would, again, like, more to that point of like put all of that love and stock into those friends and those experiences. And there's those like they say like, you know, your camp friends become your real.

friends or like your theater friends become your real friends. That's kind of what happened for a while. Are you still friends with people you went to camp with? Oh yeah. Oh yeah. Very much. And they're like thriving. Like my friend Shane Atalb right now is like having her own Hamilton moment where she's, there's this musical coming in this spring called Sufts, the musical. It's about the women's suffrage movement. It's a Broadway. She wrote it. He's starring in it. Like wrote the book, wrote the lyrics, wrote the music. That's impressive. And so she's like, Lynn's. Manuel Miranda. I was going to say, look out.

Her way all the top. And she, like, I met her when she was 12. And I remember her voice then. And, you know. That's so cool. Yeah. All I can think of is I have to send my daughter to performing arts camp. Yeah.

It's definitely. Yeah. But I feel like it's an East Coast thing. Is it? No, they have it here. I know, but I just feel like that whole, like, it just feels a little more East Coast. I get what you mean. Yeah.

Yeah. And my mom's from Philly. So, like, you know, we have a taste of that. But, like, you know, we're out here. and maybe go out east for it. Maybe I should move. Maybe you should leave. Is it too much to send kids to camp?

I mean, it is a sleepaway camp to do it there. My daughter's not there yet. But like a couple of her friends, like they're doing it for the first summer this summer. It's far too for their first summer. Like I'd have to be out there. I will say that they do sessions there. So they're three, three weeks sessions. So you can just do one session, which is like an extended little trip.

Yeah. Three weeks? You can just go stay there. Oh, yeah. I'm going to be staying in the castigel. I'm going to be like, hi, guys, I am camp counselor. I'm pretty sure the actress Rachel Wilson is like a counselor at this.

Honestly, that would be my dream. At this fear of you guys. That would be my dream, though. Like, I always wanted to do that. She keeps like nudging the girl in Oklahoma and she's like trying to play the lead and we're like. She's just steamrolling all.

That actually would be a cute play. That would be a great movie. Like the girl that, or a movie. Like the girl that goes back and never got to do it. It's like never been kissed, but like with theater. A hundred percent. We're going to write it today. Yep.

Yep. Yep. I like it. Never been acting. Never. Never been acting. Yeah. Seriously, you guys.

We're never been to camp. Never been to. Yeah. Never been to. I went once. I know, but for the sake of this piece, you have never been. A horseback riding camp. Yeah.

Which I love horseback riding. Yeah. But like I didn't get to like do a place. Sing on the horse. No, no, yeah. Well, I could do Oklahoma. Yeah, you could have. Two birds.

I could have. I could have, Skyler. You come as a camp counselor. We were like, I brought my own horse. Listen, I'm ready. I have my horse. They're like, where's your daughter? My what?

Oh, shit. I forgot her. I didn't bring that little bitch. She's going to get the weed. She's home with the cup song. Let's have some fun with Skyler. Well, well, why, I mean, it hasn't been fun. Clearly.

It hasn't been fun at all. So, like, I'm going to try to help this along. Do you like fun? I love fun. Okay, good. If you could go on one reality show, which would it be? Oh, my gosh. I'm not good with fast answers, too.

You can you take your time? You're Libra? When's your birthday? September 23rd. Oh, my God. Oh, wait. You're, like, on the cusp? Yes, but, like, my chart is it's Libra.

Yeah. Because I'm a Virgo. My son's a 28. So on the other side of your little. Love it. I know. I know. I know.

Love a Virgo. Me too. Okay, so okay, if I could be on one reality show. What are someone like the popular? I'm thinking Survivor, but I never watched it. I knew you were going to say Survivor. But I'm not on it. And I would be telling.

I'm not on it this year. No, but not. Not only that, I don't even watch it. I know I would probably like it, but I just know I would be bad. You're not survival skills. I don't think so. Like you're not putting yourself on a remote island. My back would kill me.

No. And I don't like being, I don't like being. Stress fractures. I think if I needed to, like, like, like, like, Like, I could be... Build a fire? Manipulative. Oh.

Yeah. You know what I mean? The actor in me could, like, figure out how to play the part of, like, because you have to, like, you have to, like, fake the fake. You have to, like, pretend you're being innocent when you're not or vice versa. Or, like, I think I could potentially do that. I just can't, like, build things and make a fire. Oh, that's a thing.

I wouldn't be doing very good on that. Real housewives? Real housewives. I would like to be, like, a token husband. or something like that. Just like the nice one. Yeah. The unproblematic one that is like, oh, why can we be like those two?

What's some other reality shows? Ooh, I would like to be a judge on like a singing thing. That's what? The voice. I feel like I would like to like. America's got talent. Sure. Sure.

Any of them. Any of them. But the voice. Yeah. I like that you're like, you can't see the person when you hear them. I like that. I love the voice. Because American Idol, you know.

There's something pure about that. There is. It's like love is blind, but for voices. Exactly. Do you know love is blind? I do know love. I do know. Another reality show.

I loved love on the spectrum. That was amazing. That was a very, very heartwarming content. Yes. Absolutely. But yeah, yeah, let's just say, yeah, a voice, the voice. I feel like that's a good option for you. Yeah.

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It's like my rising is like... Maybe I have like a rising... I don't know. I say like rising carry, a rising... Everyone should have a rising carry as far as I'm concerned. Yeah. Oh, the Kristen Davis character's name is Charlotte. Maybe that's my son and my rising.

I can't figure out if it's Carrie or Charlotte. But it's between those two. Mm-hmm. Hmm. And then I think my moon is, I mean, my Venus is in Samantha, clearly. Obviously. Everyone's Venus is in Samantha. And then I'd say, yeah, my moon is probably somewhere between Carrie and, uh, and, uh, and,

And Samantha. Okay. Yeah. That's very well-rounded. Yeah. Right? That's my diplomatic way of- Carrying and Charlotte.

Maybe Carrey and Charlotte. Yeah, not Samantha. Oh, she's just... I think there's a lot of Carin and a lot of Charlotte in my chart. Okay. That makes sense. I feel that answer. I do.

Nothing against Miranda. I just don't feel like we have a lot of... The Venn diagram is off. For a fan of the character. It's best out the Venn diagram. Yeah. I wonder what... Did they ever say what they're signing?

were on that show. I'd be curious. I mean, they've had birthdays. They did. But I don't know if it ever specified. Yeah, and you can't look at air dates. That's not fair. No, that's fair.

It's got to be like, yeah. No, it has to be spoken. It should be deliberate. Spoken word. I think we need to know. I agree. I don't know if anyone's ever asked that question before. Well, can we call someone?

Yes. I'm a big fan of giving my characters. A sign. Do you do that every time? Not every time, but Todd is definitely a Gemini. And so I'm like telling them. So I keep telling, like, the creator. And like, if we're doing a birthday episode, like, you've got to set it in May or like, you just, it's important.

Yeah. June. Wait, tell us a little bit about your show, though. Okay. Yeah. So I play. So, okay. Yeah.

Right. Hold on. Before we get to more of this. So I, so I'll get to more of this. So I play Todd, who is a private investigator who's stripped of his licenses for some illegal activity. Oh. Totally was not his fault. Oh.

Totally was not his fault. Okay. And so where we find him in the beginning of the show is kind of down on his luck. And he kind of has to. go to work for his mother who is a high-powered attorney, played by Marcia Gay Harden. And she is very successful and very upper crust. And he's the black sheep of the family. And they have a very contentious relationship.

And it's very funny. There's a lot of bickering. If you can imagine, like, a crime-fighting mother-son duo who, like, are just bickering and, like, she's, like, telling him, you know, he has schmots on his face as they're going to interview the, you know, the suspect. I love it. And throughout the course of the first season, he kind of rises up and works to get. his license and now it's like a it's a little it's a fun procedural but we do a lot of like biting

comedy and some some physical comedy too it's very fun how fun any stress fractures no no stress fractures right now a lot of running though a lot of like running but like funny running yeah somewhere between Cruz and hanks and in the Tom scale yeah i don't know if cruise would ever be like oh i run funny right he doesn't but there's but there's like a real like strict strictness to him that Todd has But there's a little Forrest Gump that Todd gets it. It's a combo. Exactly. I respect it.

It sounds so fun. So fun. It is really fun. It was really fun because we were a show that when we were first getting started creatively, I mean, I made a choice. I was like, this guy is who I believe he is. But I know, like, finding the audience, we were, you know, before it came out, it was like, hey, is this too funny in certain areas is. Is this not dramatic enough? We were technically considered a drama.

and CBS has a lot of like dramas and comedies that, you know, are very clearly dramas and clearly comedies. And we were somewhere in between. But we are that hour length too. So it was interesting being in the drama department, but like I'm doing a scene where I'm slapstickly like solving something in a bag of Cheetos. And so, but we've now like completely blurred the line and, uh, the audiences have really responded. So we're able to fully trust in what the show is. Right. You know, and like it's, there's no question of like, is this going to work? Like, is this too many things? Yeah.

And it does. It's just like so we know what is our show now. It's just nice. That's so fun. Yeah. Amazing. Yeah. So now I'm just like at the place where I'm like, let's just keep it going.

What's happened? Yeah. I really enjoy doing it. That's so cool. Yeah. I love the character too. He's a silly, he's a silly little Gemini. He's a silly little Gemini.

I like that. Okay. If you could listen to only one album for the rest of your life, which would it be. Oh, gosh. I know. Putting the pressure on. Pressure, but no pressure. Poof.

Oh, my God. It sort of like a Paul Simon. Is there like a Beatles? Sort of like a Beyonce. Oh, we're all over the place. Yeah, we are. That's me. There could have been thriller back in the day, maybe.

Oh, okay. I keep saying Renaissance in my head, but I feel like I would maybe get bored of that. So that's why like Maybe it Maybe this is like a Beatles Greatest Hit situation There's just something very easy

Because it'll just be Always be always happening It'll always be happening It's a similar key I like that Yeah All right you're you're gonna go down for a murder This is good for your character

Uh huh You're going down for a murder you didn't commit And you have the chance to frame someone To get out of it Who do you frame? What? I know Who's like the word?

person. I know. Trump? I know. Did I just frame? I mean, it crossed my mom. But he wouldn't go to jail, right? It never happens.

I, yes, someone bad, someone really bad who should be there already. Yeah. So, so let's just. Like Dexter. Yeah. He was like a serial killer. I only killed people. Yeah.

Exactly. It's the Robin Hood of serial killing. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's the tagline. You should really, you should really be there already and who's not.

He's like it's Brenda from my high school. Yeah. Can you imagine? Yeah. What's the first thing you do when you get home from a trip? Ooh. Damn. P.

My first thing I do when I get home from a trip, I don't know. Maybe like plug in my phone. Plug in my phone. Pee. I'm really an easy guy. I don't have really low maintenance over here. I wish I could say like unpack right away. Never.

But that's not happening. There's always like the thing I got to grab. There's like, let me get the speaker because I'm going to go like swim right now. So let me like get the fish the one thing out that I need for this moment. And then the suitcase sits in like five days. Yeah, I like this. You're going to swim.

If I had a house with a pool. You would do that often. Yeah. And you'd make sure to get the speaker first. For sure. Good intel. Because you need music while you swim. What do you play?

This is like a vibe. probably a Beatles album, I guess. All these questions are for the same situation, right? Yeah. These answers aren't going to be good. I'm going to be honest. No, they're not. They're better than...

You're like, they're so weird. No, I like it. Weird. But you're like, I'm going for a swim, but I'm grabbing my speaker. Yeah. That's like the first thing I, like, have to charge my phone because it would probably be dead. I'd have to pee. But would you pee in the pool or would you do that first?

No, I'm not a pee. And even when I have my own. Nope. Shower all day. Yeah. Drain's or drains. Drain's. And I know that the pool cleans itself and I'm sure people have peed in my pool. Sure.

But I just, yeah, for some reason, don't. I pee in the ocean all the time. Yeah. All the day long. All the live long day. I will pee in an ocean from sun up to sundown and twice on Sunday. But no, I, yeah, I don't. Yeah, I don't pee in my pool.

Okay. It's the respect that I have for it. See? And those that clean. This is important information. This is very important. Do you pee in the pool? I mean, I've peed in a pool.

Yeah, I've peed in a pool. For sure. But it's been a while. It's been a while. It's been a while and not in my own. It's like when I was four. Like I. And not in my own.

And I thought about it before. I was like, oh my God, I should probably like, I mean, there's so much like chlorine or whatever. Like it's really not a big deal. Also like what I also, you know, and I'm like incredibly lucky that I've like had a pool. A salt water pool. Yes. There's like the saline and then the chlorine and the things.

It's like you talk to any pool guy. They will, like, explain their method to you. And I'm like, I can't be messing with this pH here. I can't, like, I feel like if I was peeing, I would, like, see that, like, Doug the bull guy being like, you know, that. We're going to have to shock it tomorrow just to get it back to, you know, to normal. He knew. He would know. Isn't there, like, that stuff you could put in so it turns blue or whatever?

I feel like that's an urban legend. I do too. Or a myth. Or, like, a dot that follows you? You've heard that. A dot. We've heard that. Yeah.

But, like, your whole life you hear, if you pee. A Trail of Blue is going to, like, come out. Yeah. Have you ever seen a Trail of Blue? No, not to one. Do you know what I do see, though, every morning and every afternoon? What? My children pee in the front yard.

Wow. Yes, they get out of the car from school and just pee right in the front yard. And I'm trying to change this. What? Boys, gals? They're boys. Could you know their girls all way off? No joke.

I was like, I was making any assumptions, but. 6 a.m. I'll walk outside. I'll walk in my living room and see the two of them out there peeing in the bushes at 6.30 in the morning. Look, I get it. They like a nature pee. First of all, it keeps animals way. Does it? There we go.

It can. I remember I was living in Burbank for a while and they were like, we would all just sometimes every once in a while just pee in the backyard. To keep what kind of animals way? Well, we all had dogs. So I think some sort of like coyotes potentially, like they wouldn't want to be around us, but they would want to, they smell the dog pee. but then we just like pee on the, it's just a big pee fest in my backyard. But it's also like it's a superpower.

It's kind of awesome. It's kind of freeing when you're on a hike or camping or like to pee outdoors kind of. I wish I was a dude sometimes. Yeah. Freeness of peat because I have to pee all the time. Yeah. And it's right now.

I am right now. Yeah, I'm peeing right now on your yard. But yeah, I think that that's, I get where your boys are coming from there. I do too. And in the more. morning when they're doing it, I never, I'm like, don't do that. I'm like, good for you. Like, if that's what you feel like doing, that's amazing. In front of the house, in broad day, like,

kind of bothers me. Well, you also get to an age too where, like, literally peeing outside, they say it's like you could be, you'd be registered as a sex offender because you can literally, do you not know this? No. Well, that's like, that's, I mean, maybe this is like another urban legend, like the blue pee in the pool. No, no. I know someone who got arrested for it. Right. Right. Because a lot of, like, dudes, right, it's like, Oh, my God, such a long line. Let me just like take a knee and like pee, you know. Take a knee.

You take a knee to pee? You can. I don't. But like if you really want to be, yeah, you can. Oh, you can. I'm learning so much today. If you want to like be under your car kind of a vibe. If you're like parked and you're in a parking lot and you don't want to be standing up.

I'm just very, this is my move. By the way, cut to TMZ. This is my move. I will be on a phone call. Fake be on a phone call. Yeah. Yeah. And just kind of let it hang and just angle my body away from.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. So it's like, yeah, that guy's just doing his thing. There is something happening down there, though, that's following them. Yeah. Yeah. Either take a knee or do something like that kind of inconspicuously be conspicuous. Yeah.

But, yes, if you do get caught by the cops or whatever on the side of the road or whatever, it's like they can get you for public urination, but also then that's public nudity, exposure. And, yeah, that's like a thing. You don't want that on your record. Radius. Yeah. Can you imagine? Oh my God. Just trying to relieve yourself. And now you have to introduce yourself to every neighbor for the next 50 years of your life. You get it like knocked down to like a pistominer. It's gone. A pistominer. That's my time. Thank God. It's got. Yeah. Epistaminer. That's pretty good. Thank you very much. Yeah. Really well done. I've learned so much about peeing in public. Yeah. This is what happens when you have me on your show. You talk a little bit about my TV show and mostly about urinary.

Did you prepare that before you came here? Which one? Pistaminer? Yeah. No, that came to me in this actual moment. You weren't like, I'm going to find a way to work that in. I've been working on that joke for three months. Let me tell you.

I feel like puns and whatnot are, you know, your. Oh, shit. I got the term. My domain. No, your sister. The people who have. My twice exceptional. Yeah.

That's one of my exceptions. Exceptional. Yeah. Like, I can't. Like, I, I'm a dad joke with no kids. Like, I'm a, I'm waiting. It'll all make sense. You're going to have kids one day.

Yeah, one day, but I definitely, but I feel like my humor's already there. Do you have a good dad joke for us? This is what I play every day. We play dad jokes. Are you going to let your son pee anywhere, anytime? Depends. I want to raise it, right? Sure.

Is he going to be allowed to pee in the pool? I don't know. I mean... No. I don't want. Do you tell Breyer, let it loose, baby? Sometimes I'll be like, I'll just pee. Oh, really?

Yeah. It depends. It depends on the situation. I don't have any dad jokes that I like have for her. Like I'm not good life. Like, do you know good joke? Tell me one. But I can come up with like, you know, I got like sharp wit. Yeah.

But my typical dad joke is just like, oh, you look like you really like, you know, you really hated that when someone finishes their plate. That's like to me. That's not even a dad joke. There's just like a dad phrase. Yeah. You know what I mean? It's a dad vibe.

It's a dad vibe. Yeah. It's just corny. Like, yeah. Oh, this is really good. Okay. Tell us something that you've never told anyone, nobody. I have to peeve right now.

You've never said that before? No, I know I have said that. We're going to let you go. We're going to let you go. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. No, no, no. I can hold it. Also, what's something I've never told? Yeah, I know.

I mean, that's like, oh, God. Everything that I'm thinking of that's like even slightly scandalous, I've told people. It doesn't have to be scandalous. It could be like, I used to collect my boogers under the table. Like, I swallowed a nickel when I was a child. And you never told anyone? No, my people, my mom knew. But you never told anyone.

Why did you swallow a nickel? Because I was curious about the, like, I was, I, you're like three, right? Okay. And you're, or four, or like last year. But like, three or four or 34, either way. I just liked the taste of the metal, like in my mouth. I just wanted it. I was sucking on it.

You know what I mean? like a hard candy. And my dad stopped short because we were in the car, and it just flew back there. And just having to tell them, like, I swallowed a nickel. And it's like, and like they're just looking at you like, how?

You know what I mean? And so that was like the worst part of being like, well, you know, because they're like, did it fly in and get caught? It's like, no, it was already in there voluntarily. The accident was like, the swallowing. And so my mom had to like fish through my poop for like, yeah, that's love. Why would you not just let it be? Because apparently, well, the Jewish mother worries. And the doctor was like, you'll know if you pass. They're like, what are we going to do? It's like, don't worry. At some point,

he will pass through. Like it's not digesting that nickel. You know, he's not going to turn that five pennies. And so I, she has to have to kind of like see if it went. To make sure it didn't like block Because I think it's like, hey, if it doesn't, like, come out. We got it. We're going to have to get this out. Got it. Needless to say. I'm so glad this came up.

Yeah, me too. I know. I don't feel a little better? Like, when was the last time you've talked about that? In therapy? With two people that lives just like you actually. No, it's been a while. It's been a long time.

But I haven't even thought about it. Nope. But my mom loves to tell that story, at least. Because she's like, that's love. That is love. Fishing through your poop. That's a Jewish mama. Uh-huh.

I mean, Jewish, Italian. I got both. Anything. Oh, really? I mean, both sides. Fantastic. So I get it both ways. Your first celebrity crush?

Tiffany Amber Thiessen and Kelly Kapowski. Saved by the bell. Yes. A thousand percent. When I wake up in the morning. It was her. And I'm trying to think. There was definitely like another one of that era.

Oh, you can't think of it? Was it like 902 and O vibes? I mean, there was Topanga. Oh, Topanga. Topanga. On Boy Mids World. But I think. Kelly Capowski was like the one.

She was mine too. Like not crush but crush. Yeah. She was, I mean, everything. Yeah. For sure. The hair, the outfit. What's the last thing you Googled?

Oh, yeah. Probably something so boring. Like one of the legal terms on So Help Me, Todd. Like I Google a lot of definitions of anything that I don't know what it means. If it's a medical term that I have to say in the scene or whatever. I don't, I do always use a private browser is the thing. What do you mean? Because I just, it's shady, right?

It's more like, and by the way, okay, wait, here's this. Oh, but I Googled Alfred Pasadena. Okay. There you go. All right. All right. They make a good coffee. What did you order?

I got a cold brew. All right. Just a cold brew? Well, at first I got a cold brew with lavender something. Oh, and it was disgusting. It wasn't great. No, it tastes like a spa. It was too lavendery.

Yeah, it's awful. Well, because Starbucks has one that tastes like goddamn fruit loops and it's unbelievable. And so it's like, oh, well, let me get that on this. And it's not the same. No, because it's like the real thing. Probably, right. Yeah, yeah, it's not candy lavender. Yeah, exactly.

We're always like, oh, no, but Starbucks. I don't know. What can you say at the dinner table that you can also say in bed? I'm finished. I love the deadpan. I love that nobody's ever said the same thing. No? No.

I was always like, can you pass the, no. No one's ever said the same thing, which I find fascinating. What's next? What's next? Yeah, I like him. I'm full. I'm done. I'm done.

Sorry, I had too much. If you could trade lives with any celebrity for a day, who would you pick? Hmm. I was going to go to like some method actor, but that doesn't say. seem fun at all. That sounds exhausting. Yeah, it sounds like, yeah, a burden to everyone around them. Let me think, like, maybe an athlete or something like that. Oh, like basketball. Maybe basketball. But who? Whom? Maybe like a LeBron James or like a... If you're going to do it, I mean... Go big. Yeah. Right? He seems nice. Like, he does. He does,

right? I was like, yeah. I wasn't sure when I said it, but now I know. You were not sure. I think he seems really nice. I think he seems like a family man. He seems busy. But he does a lot of outreach. So I just want to kind of get into his life and just kind of know what's going on there. Yeah, I like it. I like it.

Let's just go with LeBron for now. Okay. We'll just do one more. All right. What would be your death row last meal? It would be a scallion cream cheese, locks, bagel on an everything bagel. from like a really good place in New York. Which one?

There's this place, Barney's Greengrass. It's really good. Goldberg's, which is my like hometown place, would be nostalgic and taste like home for sure. But that's like the first course. Okay. You don't get to tell me. Yeah. Take us through.

There's this like restaurant in Vancouver called Kisitanto, which is a Japanese, Italian fusion, but it's kind of neither. It's a Michelin Star restaurant. they have this like one kind of like egg noodley pasta called Tyrin like that would probably after the bagel yeah because I mean I don't care about like being farty and I'm dying you're yeah yeah yeah and then probably like some other carbs situation and then like it's some salted you know salt sea salt chocolate chip cookie like a huge warmed one with like an ice cream thing yeah like a posseekie yeah maybe like a chip witch or something a chip witch but like a Gourmet.

But like with gourmet, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's warm. Yeah. Do you, are you free with your flatulence in front of partners? I can't. Yes, I have been. Yes. It definitely takes it.

It takes a minute. Yeah, I was more like, what's the timeline on it? You know what? It's just when it feels right. I think it's when I have to fart is when I, no, I think that it says a lot about you and your partner if you are free to do that. Because not only is it funny, but wouldn't you want that person? to feel the most comfortable with you. And I've been in relationships or it wasn't really talked about and kind of like we're not.

Yeah, and that's okay. And like I respect that. Yeah. But having done both, I prefer the ability on both sides. And there's something kind of nice when you do something for somebody else that you know that person would want, you would want to have done for you. get that when you allow someone to, when they're going, oh, my God, I'm sorry. You know, and it just slips out.

You're like, oh, my God, far, please. Like, how much better do you feel? Right. Oh, my God, that one actually might smell. It's like, and this is why. And so now I can do that, right? You know what I mean? And it's not just for that.

It's not just like, okay, I'm saying yes because then I get to do it. Right. It's more about like the shared experience of both of us don't have to like be scared. I know. I took it to a deep, really proud place. No, it's like, because there's a lot. There's so much behind it. Holding a heart is like a real thing. And when you come home, there's something nice about, I mean, you ask me what I do from the airport. Like right when I get home,

I'm sure there's a fart somewhere. Yeah. Especially I'm on a public car or whatever. Don't want to stink it up. You know what's weird is I watched a video last night. Of you fart. Of me party. No, it was a Tony Robbins video. It was on relationships and partnerships. And he said there's three different kinds of relationships. One is I want you to meet me where I'm at. Right? And then the second one is, I want you to, and I'm paraphrasing, but like, I want you to meet me halfway. And then the third is, I want to go to every length to help you get what you want. And I was like, whoa, that is an amazing shift. It's not about, partnership isn't about here, I'll go this far and you come this far and we'll support each other. I will go to any length to get you what you want. And that's what you are like with FART. That's how I am with farts. Yeah, that's how I like to be in a relationship. In an ideal relationship, that person will also have that same mindset for you.

And then you innately meet that person halfway. Because there is this wonderful thing of this give and take of I'm there for you, you're there for me. So if you are considered actually meeting someone halfway, there's like a lot of like compromise and sacrifice to that, which is fine. And maybe that works. But it almost feels like work rather than actually just loving. to take care of your partner and loving to be there and wanting to help that person just like because you just want the best for them and you want them to be happy and you want them to feel good that all of this has come from from a fart far farts yeah but it says so much because how you do

one thing is how you do everything so how you receive a fart yeah maybe how you you know how you show up for your partner if you're like and i i have to rethink a lot right now why do you have a no fart clause i don't he fart all he wants right i don't i don't i don't i don't really do that. It's just not my thing. Right. I'm never like, oh, good for him. He released that from his little tummy. Well, is he thinking it that way? You're like, I'm like, what are you doing? Why is stepping on ducks? Right, right, right, right, right. But I live with three boys, four boys. So there's a lot of farts. A lot of farting. Yeah. It's a lot. It's a lot of farting.

Well, I think it's used and weaponized and then it becomes a problem. It's in each other's faces. Yes. Yeah. It's a whole house of hearts. So you get it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there is to be some order restored.

And manners is a thing. Like more to the point of peeing in the lawn. I think it's like, like if I was a kid. If I was a parent and that was a thing, like, look, if it's a pinch and we're on a trip and it's like, hey, go pee. I'll look. Like I would like that. My dad did that kind of stuff with me because like we're New York people. So it's very like, hey, just do it here.

Who cares? You know? And like, I think that there's something. kind of that's helpful to that, but we can't get in the habit. Because now you're going to just be doing other people's yards now. And now you get your own yard and you're like, oh, well, I have to be in it. It's like, no, you have to if it's like an emergency or super necessary. Could you start a rule?

Yeah. One per one, like two per week. I haven't done any rule because I feel like, I feel like it's good. I'm like good for you. That's how I feel. You're like, grass is a mess. Just not the front yard. Yeah.

The backyard. A backyard. Go in the backyard all day long. Just not the front yard. Right. That's my rule. That's a rule. That's my rule.

Okay. Yeah. Sometimes I can't catch my little one in time and his pants are down and he's feet. True. True. But, you know. Yeah. We do what we do. Yeah.

What's the worst movie you love to watch? My worst, the worst movie? Like one of those, it's so bad. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, like, there was like, heavyweights and, like, those kinds of movies, but I still like stand by those movies.

Right. He's like, they're not bad. No, like I would be like, yeah, because you don't want to call them like bad. Yeah, those were my child. Like, Pry Baby was my movie. Yeah, but that wasn't bad. That was genius. It was like iconic.

Yeah, it was amazing. Okay, you can go with iconic. You don't have anything. The artist, however. I'll just say heavyweights because it's a movie that would never get made now. What is heavy weights? Why do we get? Talking about this.

It was about like, it's about this camp. Well, actually, it was a Disney. movie. Oh. About like, because like overweight kids that have to go to like, they get convinced to go to this like

camp. Oh. And it's, and it's Ben Stiller plays like the mean, counselor. Counselor. His character in Dodgeball

was based off of his character in heavyweights. Okay. But it's got a great message. I mean, it's fun because like the kids like rebel and they like are hiding Twinkies and the bunks and like, so that was fun to me.

Yeah. Camp, Nowhere was another movie, like, of that. There's a big camp name. Just going on. I love camps. You just love it. The kids are running the camp.

That was in heavyweights and that was also in Camp Nowhere. Like there were no counselors. They discover a camp that's like, like abandoned, I guess. And they just like, yeah. And so they make a popcorn omelet. I remember that was a thing in the trailer. So they're like making this like thing in the pan and then it just kind of blows up. And it's Christopher Lloyd from back to the future.

Oh my God. You guys made a popcorn and omelet. It was a great time. That is a great time. But yeah, let's just, I'm sure if I watch that now, I'm like, what is this acting? What's going on here? Oh, no, I'm going to look it up. I saw her a tick talk last night where this girl was like,

my family found an abandoned camp and restored it. And I was watching it getting so jealous. They got a camp and they redid it. We need a camp. Let's get an abandoned camp. What if we get an abandoned camp? I'm not kidding. Get that.

Like, we should just get that. We should do that. What if we get in abandonment? What if we get an abandoned dam? And all our dreams, like, are going to, popcorn omelets. Popcorn omelets. No. You could do your plays.

You guys, I am the play. Yeah. You could finally do Oklahoma on a horse. Oklahoma. This sounds right. Yes. Yeah. I think this was the whole reason that we came together today.

I think so. We're really on to something. Good fart whenever you want at this camp. It's all outdoors. It's all outdoors. Twinkies right out in front of everyone. Put your twinkies right out of the bedposts. I mean a twinkie.

And like the, yeah, they were pulling out like the like sausage links. Like my sausage links. Yeah. Just tweaking. But I was like that looks great. Like anything where kids were just like like like eating junk food all the time. Because like I was limited growing up. We were like in a crazy limited situation.

But it was the 90s like snack wells were a thing. Like diet food was like what I was. You know, but those are cookies. But those aren't like cookies. They're not right. Nursing home cookies. And like so when you get to see if people eat and like. like a proper Twinkie and like a real Dunkeroo situation.

Wait, Dunkerriss are back. Are they back? Oh, yeah. I used to make friends with people just to go to their house and eat their real snacks. Yeah. Yeah. Our cereal pantry was white.

What? I want to know. Other than that, it was pretty, like, restricted, but like, I don't know. My mom just like totally was just like, no, when it comes to cereals, that's you guys do whatever you want. So it started from left to right order with like Cheerios. Yeah. And then like this thing called like, pro.

product 19, which is a Kellogg's thing, which sounds like... Oh, no. It's kind of like Wheaties, but it's not, it's kind of like cornflakes, but it's not... I know exactly what you're talking about. It's got a little of a slack on the flake that's kind of, I don't know what it is. Questionable. It's savory, though. And yeah, so it goes to say, savory to be then like to the Rice Krispies and then to like, now it's going to corn pops.

And it's like, oh, that's there. And I were getting into all those kinds of like lucky charms and smacks and smacks and... Smacks. Smacks. Yeah. And it would get, and then it would just get off the rails. with like Reese's peanut butter puffs. Wow.

Never. And like, yeah, it was candy. It was straight up candy for breakfast. I mean, but that's what it is. But we always have, and I give my, you know, Lucky Charms. Lucky Charms. I had Lucky Charms. I had Lucky Charms ice cream the other night.

So did that. Was it in salt and straw? Yeah. I was like, how is it? Incredible. Yeah. Does it have the marshmallows in? Yeah, of course.

They like grind up the marshmallows. They're ground up? They're like mixed in. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We got the same one. You're eating marshmallows. You're not eaten. not eating like no.

Gummy mush. Yeah. The milk is definitely like the flavor. It was delicious. Ice cream. Yeah. It was really good. Yep.

Take my daughter. Yeah. You guys, this has been so enlightening. I'm so glad. Yeah. And wonderful. Yes.

Yes to all of it. We're getting a camp. Yeah, we're getting a camp and we're watching your show. Yes, please. We absolutely are watching your show. I mean, a pun and a title. We love. Yeah, come on.

Leave it to Steve. Everybody hates Chris. So help me. It's Todd. Yes. Everyone loves it. Yeah. Better call Derica or something like, I don't know.

Better call Saul. That's the thing, right? Yeah. I don't know what Derek is. Derek is. Yeah. It's a big career milestone to be a titular character and a pun named show. That is like a huge accomplishment.

Yeah, I have arrived. No, seriously. It's pretty exciting. It's very exciting. Yeah. I do love it. I'm excited for you. Thank you.

fun thing. Fun day. And you're a fun person. Thank you. You're fun people. Thank you. Thank you for coming. Thank you.

You're a fun person. You're a fun person. You're a fun person. And you answer the questions beautifully. Oh my God. Favorites with me is so bad. I know. It's hard.

You did amazing. But they'd be different tomorrow, which is the point, right? That's the point. You're going to like later, you're going to think about it. Oh, my God. I'm like, LeBron James. What are you talking about? Why don't you do something important?

with your life, but you know, you asked. Basketball's important. It is to sound. I agree. Skyler, thank you. Thank you so much. I hope I brought in your ideas. You did.

You brought in all my kids. It's dope. Do you think people are getting ASMR from me crunching into the microphone? Dude. People don't like it. They don't like it? No. What do people really get off on like?

I mean, I guess some people could, but all. A lot of people have misophonia, and that's where they don't like hearing mouth. A lot of people what? Misophonia. Oh, misophonia. Oh, oh, oh, misophonia. Okay. Hey, you know what they like?

They like this. They like, like, I want to crumb. When what? Those words, like, cookie. Crumble. Cookie. Um, guys. You took some notes.

I got some notes, too. Oh, good. You look like you have a secret. I'm a secret. No, but you look like you're withholding something. He always just looks like that. Yes. Okay.

Wait. Does Natalie think you're shady? Is she like, what? Because doesn't he always look like he's about to say something? Yes. You would do good in acting because they always tell you to like have a secret behind your eyes. Really? Like when you take headshots, though, like think of someone.

something that you don't want anyone to know. Who's taking your headshot? Manson. Sorry. Okay. Okay. One thing I wanted to tell you guys. You know how I always bring up, this is a continuing thing, okay, that we talk about.

This is a reoccurring with me in song lyrics. I got another one for you guys. We were at a rodeo during spring break. As one does. And the song came on. Well, if I sing it, I can't because then you'll hear the lyric wrong. But, you know what? Going to rest you in my bones.

Okay. It's just way down south, right? Yeah. Okay. Way down south. Isn't it? A whole life. I want to know.

Lay down Sally. Yeah. Wait. Lay down Sally. Is it not? Can we Google it? I don't know what you as a boss. What if it's Olivia?

I have brittle on my hand. Wait, what if it actually is? And I'm like, no, you guys, I've been singing it wrong my whole life, but it's right. I need to know now because I'm so much stuff in my teeth. I've always laid down Sally, rest you in my arms. I've been waiting all night long just to talk to you. Hold on. Wait, I'm going to way down south. Or maybe it is Laydown Sally and I thought it was way down south.

Did I get my own story wrong? Maybe there's a second verse and they say both. Way down south. Hold on. Is it? Hold on. I got to, I got to put way down. You guys, this is worth it. Trust me. Trust me. Lay down Sally.

Maybe it is Lay down Sally and I got it wrong. I always thought it was Oh my God Not so typical I'm like you guys You guys I've been saying the wrong I didn't even remember

The wrong lyrics were I remember my wrong lyrics Is the right lyrics Not in a nutshell Oh my God Wait I almost spit out I'm interested He's been laughing

He's trying to laugh He's not laughing He's trying to laugh and I have so much shit in my teeth. Oh my God, it feels so good. Oh, my God. You're like, no, it's laid down. I'm like, wait a minute.

But the way you just sang it with me, it was like, yeah. You felt so seen. Oh, my God. Okay. Dude. Rewind. I always thought it was way down south. Okay.

I can. Oh, my God. I took Calvin a job. Joshua Tree. Oh, yeah. How was that? It was fun. We went and climbed and stuff.

Oh, cute. The day we were, we were about to leave. We drove back Sunday night and the Airbnb had like a botchy ball court. So we were, he didn't know how to play bocci ball. So I was showing him how to play. And we were playing and he, you know how to play bocci ball, right? Yes, yeah. He threw like a little white ball and he can't even throw the big one far enough down.

So he's like just threw it like. two feet in front of us. So then I took the big ball and chucked it real hard at it and it went like flying down the yard. And he started laughing like so hysterically that he

then tripped and fell backwards into a cactus. Oh no. And on his butt Oh my God. It was a little cactus but just fully then like laughing but also

having to strip his clothes off because it was on his sleeve, it was on his butt, and every time he would move, he would, like, feel the pricklies in him. Oh, my God. So it's just him stripping all of his clothes off naked. Where outside? Outside in the backyard of this Airbnb.

Like, screaming hysterically, but then also laughing of, like, what is happening? And had to, like, run into the shower and, like. Oh, my God. Did you want to call his mom? No. No, he didn't. No?

No, he was fine. I had to pick pricklies out of his butt, though. Pricin' dads. I do think it's so cute, though, that you take your little solo trips with him. I know, it's very cute. It's really cute. They're fun. I've never done that.

A solo trip? No. You should do it. It was like a very last minute thing, too. He was on spring break all week, and we were working a lot, and he was at, like, a climbing camp all week. So then I had the weekend off and it's like, well, we can go for two days. Why don't you all go, though? Natalie does not like driving.

And then also like dealing with setting up a room for Vincent. She's got him on like his schedule. Yeah. Jeff always says he'll do it. He'll be like, I'm just going to take the kids skiing or whatever. And then I'm always like, okay. And then I'm like, okay, I'm going. Like I can never like just look.

let them go because you're scared. A little bit. That's why. That's why. You got to let go of that. Yeah, I'd rather be with it. I know, but you got to let go of that. Like, what if they fall in?

Jeff's a doctor, so. I don't trust him. He's got a lot longer of leash than I do. Yeah, but they're going to also need that. I know. To not, like, yeah. I have an experience in a Starboy. Starbucks bathroom the other day.

Do tell. I had to pee so bad, you guys. And I stopped in. It was after the Galleria. And I stopped at Starbucks. Oh, yeah. I had to pee so bad. I went in to pee, and you guys, I could not find the light.

Aren't they normally automatic? That's what I thought. Could not find it. I peed by flashlight. Oh, smart. Yeah. I felt I wrote that down to share. with the eyes.

That's actually really interesting. Why? Because you've done it? No, but there was a... No, I can find light switches. Did you look on the wall? Yes, I looked on the wall. Okay.

No, because I just went to a little... You know the little grocery store by my house? And there was a power outage. Yeah. But I needed to get milk. So I was like, I guess I'll just use my flashlight. And I, like, went in with my flashlight and use it. And then the guy in the aisle next to me skisking.

scared me. He was like, he's like, this is creepy, huh? He's like, I'm in the cereal aisle. I can see you. And I was like, but, like, this is actually, like, my heart rate 100% went up for a minute. And I was like, am I about to get killed? He was like, hide and see this. And I was like, I mean, out of here. And I like was like walking really fast. I'm following you home, Olivia. Yeah, I was scary. My mind goes to, you were getting milk, but there was power outage, like how long it had it been out because it's not refrigerated? Not long because I knew when the street lights went out. Did the power go out while you were at the grocery store? No, I walked in.

I saw an accident because the traffic lights went out. And then I was like, oh, that's weird. The traffic lights are out. And I walked in and it was pitch-blocked. And I was like, can I remember? Did they ring you up? You had cash? I had cash.

Wow. I know. I was shocked. We both did things by flashlight. That's what I'm saying. Don't you think that's weird? Lay down sound. I'm like, yes.

Real serendipitous. We're both smart. We both went, I have a flashlight. My friend Matt that we pleased him with occasionally, I sent him our road trip itinerary. And he's doing, this was not planned, but he's doing almost the same trip.

in the middle are both in Denver on the same day. No way. And then he's doing arches the next day and all will have just come from. Oh, my God. You guys are like this? Have you been to arches? Nope. I've been to arches.

Is it fun? It was wonderful. I had only been dating Jeff three weeks and he was like, will you go camping with me on a guy's camping trip? And I was like, yeah, I'm cool, you know? That's the last time I camped with him. The first and last? Yeah, I was like, I got him. He thinks I'm like a camper.

You are a yeser. I say yes to everything, but yes. We had her wakeboarding at like 6 a.m. in Vancouver and the freezing cold. That's true. You guys haven't told us about your spring break trips. Well, I told you a little bit about mine. Me, not really. How was the rodeo?

It was wonderful. Yeah, that's all you told us about her. Like, tell us about it. Where did you go? Alice Hall. Where is that? It's like in Solving. Los Alivos?

Solving. Yeah. Yeah. Have you been to Solving? I think so. It's like a really cute little, like Danish town. You know? North or?

North. It's like inland from Santa Barbara. Yes. You know? But we went to like a dude ranch and it was so fun. Horseback riding. Breyer and her friend did a ropes course. Like you.

You guys, I don't know that I could have done some of the things you did. It was leap of faith. You, like, climb to the top of a telephone pole and you're connected to a thing. What? And then you just jump off. Wait, I'm sorry. Yeah. I've never seen this.

You're connected to a thing. I hope so. It would be wild if you want. Yeah. It was crazy. They're so brave. It would be, like, midsummer. Where are the old people, once they reach, like, a certain age, they go up on the cliff and jump off.

Oh, I never saw that movie. Rob, you would really appreciate this. So Elliot started playing baseball. Mm-hmm. And Olivia, like, does not. Like, no baseball, you know, like terms and stuff. What did you say the other day? You were like, he did the thing.

He stopped the ball. He stopped. He did a stop. He made him out? Yes. That is what she was trying to say. But she said, he did a stop, you know. He stopped the ball.

He stopped the ball. And I was like, in my head, I'm like, what is she trying? And then she was talking about him, like, hitting the ball. or whatever, and I'm like... What did he do? Oh, yeah. Hit the ball? He got a...

He got a... He got a run. I said, when she was trying to explain, I'm like, it is an RBI? Yeah, what the hell is that? A run batted in? Yeah. That means the batter gets a hit and someone scores.

And then someone scores, so that's a run batted in. So if he hits the ball and it causes the other player, let's say it's on third base, and then he goes home to the home plate and they get it, he scores. Well, but that's not. not what he did. He might have done that. I don't know.

She's not paying him with that. But he did his own home run. Oh, he hit a home run. That's different. No. He scored a run. So he got like a hit and then more people got a hit. Yeah, he scored a run.

He scored a run. He didn't have a home run because a home run is if you do it all in one. He did get a home run day one. He got a home run. Great. Yeah. Yeah. But was it on an error or he actually actually hit a home run?

No, he hit. What do you mean was it on an air? So, like, did he hit it to an outfielder and they just, like, missed it and it rolled by them? And then there was an overthrow. Like, it was like an accidental home run and not like a... Not a proper, like, hit it over the fence. Oh, I don't know. Yeah.

All I know is he hit it and got it on the fence in these games. I was being a dick when I asked that. He's like, I don't know anything. And Rachel's like, do you get an RBI? Do you get an error in the right fielder? I was like, I don't know. He stopped the. ball, he hit the ball.

All right, let's see a question. I slept with my wife's younger sister. Have I ruined our family? So, I'm a 28-year-old male. My wife, who I've been with since I was 15, passed away from cancer two years ago. Oh. She was my best friend, an amazing person, the absolute best. She made me feel like a better person.

Without her, I felt so depressed. Last weekend, I got very drunk with my wife's younger sister, 26-year-old female, while hanging around and we ended up kissing and having sex without a condom. Fucked up, I betrayed my wife, I betrayed her family, and I feel disgusting. I am disgusted with myself and for it being with her sister. Uh-uh. I don't see it that way. My sister-in-law and I have been really close since my wife passed as friends.

We hang out weekly and talk on the phone daily. She's been the person I can go to for hugs and cry and talk about the good memories of my wife. We've already got this. Go ahead. Do you want to tell me to stop? I mean, we know the ending. We're like, no. It's not bad.

Is there more to it? I'll see. Two days ago, I'm skipping some stuff for you. Two days ago, I spoke to my wife's sister and we both apologetic about what happened. She went on to tell me that she has romantic feelings for me and has had them for about a year. She said she would only pursue them if I were comfortable with it. She started listing all the things she thinks are great about me and we kissed again. Told her I need space and time to think about that and she's been very respectful.

My wife was the only sexual partner I've ever been with So I don't know if that's playing a role in my feelings But yeah, I like her She makes you feel happy and she's truly a good friend I just see her as someone who is amazing Who's going to be an awesome mom and wife to someone We've just got this We're done

I know my wife would hate me right now I talked to my mother-in-law yesterday Who I talked to about everything And I feel like a piece of shit Not telling her what happened Now I'm a liar too on top of everything The worst part is, yes, I would like to explore my feelings. Yes, I have strong feelings for her.

I didn't realize it did, but I do. But I don't know how messed up that is. I don't know how to move forward. I don't want to lose my family. I don't want to lose her. I don't want to disrespect the memory of my wife. I'm such a piece of shit. He needs to chill out in himself.

It's so common when, I mean, you hear these stories all the time, like whether it's like the best friend or the sibling. My brother, my dad, my brother's dad died and my dad was his, my brother's dad's best friend. Yeah. And he would come over to sympathize and be there. So it's very common for that to happen. And especially that's like her sister, I'm sure, is the closest thing to her. So it's totally understandable.

And I would think like if the family's that close. They would maybe even. Yeah. And I feel like even his wife who passed on, like if it's real love, like that, you want that person to be happy, you know? I would want that. Yeah. Olivia always says that if anything happens to her, she wants me to take care of.

I think you say in almost every episode of this podcast. Every episode. I just want to make sure everybody knows. She just wants to. Are you a spiritual psychologist too? I think, yeah, and my husband. I think that 100%. It's like that grief that only those two people can really comprehend and understand

that they're going through. obviously there's trauma bonding. And then there's like the coolest part about that, which I think is something that people should know is the great news is the sister's never going to try and make that woman's memory go away. I like that point. You see what I mean? That's why I would want.

Because there's someone that comes in and it'll be like going to try to replace or erase or whatever. Or like we don't want to talk about her anymore or she's whatever. Well, some people can be like that. I mean, they're not, it's not like the, like, it's kind of heartless, obviously, but. Yeah, but. Yes. Yes. Like, I'm agreeing.

You know, let's just say, let's just do it. Let's just do it for fun. Like, if something were to happen to me, I wouldn't want some random chick that's going to try and, like, take over being the mom and not keep me alive to my children. Whereas, like, let's say if Rachel came in. Well, she's thrown away all your photos. She's taking them off the wall. She's putting up her headshots. She would share that.

She would share that with my kids, right? And like, same with the family. Like, you would share that memory and it wouldn't have to go away and you wouldn't have to detach from that part of your life. That's my opinion. It's been two years. So I feel like that's not like a super disres. I could get him having those feelings

if it was like two months after she died. Yeah, being a little like, But there has been space to grieve and time for everyone that it's not just like this is him dealing with his grief. Right. Have you ever hooked up with brothers? I'm sorry, what? Siblings, have you ever slept with two brothers and a family? Oh, is that what you mean?

Not at the same time. What did you think I mean? Did you think she meant a three-way? Because the answer is yes to both. Have I? I don't know. I'm trying to think. I don't have a memory.

Anything's possible. If you did, you wouldn't have known about it. Have I? Have I? I don't. I was what I call Leah. I think she would have. Like, has anyone?

I remember when we were in junior high, there was these three brothers that were all so cute and attractive. Mm-hmm. And I feel like there might have been like I hooked. Oh. Sarah and Marissa hooked up with the same guy. That's not the same thing. That's not what you asked. Oh, they're sisters.

They're sisters. They're sisters. So that guy. And they had the same boyfriend. Right. Got it. Okay. I don't have the answer to that.

But not like, you know. Yeah. Not in a fun, sexy way. No, like one wasn't all the way sexy and then the other one was. You know? Mm-hmm. What does that mean? Like one was like when they were younger.

and they dated they were boyfriend, girlfriend, but they weren't, like, intimate with each other. So then years later, when the other one dated, it wasn't that weird because they didn't cross that line. This is really good information. Really good information, guys. So good. You guys, last week was our hundredth. Oh, yeah. What does that make this week?

101. Yeah. Dalmatians. Good job. Good job, guys. It's a hundred people. Not really, though. Like 97.

Yeah, we did some solos and some bonus episodes and some holiday sessions. We'll call it a cool 97 guests. That's a lot of people. Are you sure? Like, think about it. I does not feel like we have talked to like 95 people. That's what I'm saying. Are you sure?

I'm pretty sure. Who told you? We haven't numbered on like, the episodes. I kind of don't believe it. That does not seem possible. That seems weird. Do you want me to just quickly name the 100 guests?

Yeah, everyone wants to hear that. Well, I asked, too, if people, I'm like, are there any people that have listened to all 100 episodes and so many people wrote in saying, I have? You asked on your Instagram? I put it on our, I put it somewhere. I don't know. I don't see that.

Yeah, and people wrote it like DM'd. Like, I've listened to every single episode. That's really cute. Sweet. Really sweet. Yeah. Very sweet. We appreciate it greatly.

All right. Let's go real quick. Kristen Bell. Can you count as I'm reading these? On your fingers. We're going to read a hundred names right now. I'm going to go fast. On your fingers.

Kristen Bell, pleasure without a guest. Mandy Moore. Aubrey Plaza, Zoe da Chanel. Wait, wait. We're just doing guests. So I didn't need to. Don't read the pleasure one. Well, I'm going to.

Maybe you count non-guess. episodes. Okay. Great. Kristen Bell. So I got to start over. Kristen Bell, pleasure. Mandy Moore.

Aubrey Plaza. Zoe Das Chanel. Lauren Mayberry. Infidelity. Gina Rodriguez. Bobby Burke. Kristen Kish. Iy Cash.

Torrey Deal. Charlotte Lawrence. Manon Matthews. Tommy Dorfman. Alicia Cuthbert. Chase Crawford. Charity Rose Thielen. Malana Vintraub.

Sierra Bravo. Bobby Lee. Dominic Monaghan. Alexis and Gabby Haynes. Eliza Schlesinger Hesa and Ali Christensen Jonathan Booth Medium Jonathan Mark

Tegan and Sarah Abigail Spencer Derek Waters Becca Tobin Mina Suvari Claudia Sluski Alana Heim and Sasha Spielberg

We do have some doubles So are you counting the doubles We might be at 100 Then a holiday episode Lucy Hal James Morrcini Teresa Palmer and Sarah Wright Olsen

Margaret Trow Heidi Montag Lori Gottlie, Alison Brie, Kristen Cavalieri, Harry Hudson, Chelsea Handler, Whitney Cummings, Emily Browning, Nick Vile, Pokey, Pocke, Maine, Emily Hampshire, Melinda Clark, Madison Beer, Taminen Roxy, Alexander Ludwig, Jordana Brewster, Krista Miller, Malin Ackerman, Rachel Lee Cook, Emily Morse, Christina Ricci, Amanda Hirsch, Rachel Pally, Ellie, Tiffany Keemper, Tiffany Haddish, Bobby Lee, Anna Sophia Robb, Tiffany Thiessen, Seth Myers, Hannah Brown, Lewis Pullman, Roy Choi, Jamie King, Katie Stevens, Tammon and Roxy again, Nadine Crocker, Michael Jai White, Gabby Bernstein, Lily Weintraub, our Halloween special, Ariel Winter, Gigi Good, Prue, Amelia Hartford, Rick Glassman, Jake and Gareth, Wilson, Bethel. in 2024

Katie Segal Jada Jankens Amanda Clutes London Thor Lisa Soberano Dylan Spouse Ashley Simpson Adrina

Patridge Sosie Bacon Vanessa Morgan Sherry Appleby Bobby Lee again Samantha B 100th episode and today

Skyler Aston Okay so we're at 93 without I have four and then we had repeat guests Mm-hmm I didn't count the repeat

We did 100. Yeah, you're right. How about that? That's a lot of fucking people. Those are amazing people. We've had some great conversations with really great people. Should we have a bunch of them back?

Yeah. Yes. Specific. Specific. Specifically. Cumble your cookies. Cookie. All right.

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