Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - Staying Alive with Jon Gabrus

Episode Date: July 21, 2025

Rachel and Olivia chat with podcaster Jon Gabrus about his new health and wellness podcast (Staying Alive), their shared love for food, and the rewarding practice of slowing down and finding gratitude.Like the show? Rate Broad Ideas 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts and SpotifyThis is a Headgum podcast. Follow Headgum on Twitter, Instagram, and Tiktok. Advertise on Hollywood Handbook via Gumball.fm See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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Good. How are you doing? Good. I can't see both of you with the, there's a camera right in between us. Oh, no. We had John Gapras on today. Yeah.

He is delightful. I love him. What a time. Yeah, he's the best. He's like the, yeah, just like the best feeling. Yeah. Why did he leave? I know.

He's got more positive. Busy boy. He is a busy boy. But he's got a new show out called Staying Alive with Adam Pally. And I work on another show with him called Action Boys, where he talks about 80s action movies. And the episodes are often longer than the movie itself. Very long episodes. But John's the best.

That sounds like another good time. Yep. I want to know what movies he's watching. He gives like Maui vibes. Yeah. Like from Moana? Yes. Not the island.

Um, he was a lifeguard for like 10 years too. How did we not tap into that? I know. There's so much gaberous lore. Oh my God. We'll have to have him back. Yeah. All right.

Well, let's listen to him now. First I have to tell you I love Adam. Like, uh, I know Pally. Yeah. Oh, I was going to say, you know. Him too. I was like, oh my God, you guys are still friends. Why are you crying, Gabriel?

That's so amazing. I watched every episode in college with my girlfriend, No. Like. Really? Really? Yeah. Seriously? Yes. That's very cute.

She got me onto the show in, like, season two or three, and we went back and watched them all. Rented them on DVD. Oh, wow. Caught up and watched the rest live in, like, the early ox. That is very, very sweet. Very tender. Yeah.

And you married her. And I married her, yeah. Because of the O.C. Yeah, because of the O.C. I was always like, I'm the surfpunk jump. She's like, no, you are Seth Cohen, unfortunately. You think you might be anyone else? You would much rather be the Seth Cohen than the Johnny.

Yes, yes. I think he's winning. Johnny was not well received. That's when the show got crazy. It was like, what the fuck? It went to fuck. There's like a legit criminal. Doesn't he, like, fall off a clip?

Wait, does he die? I think Ryan, like, accidentally girls him off a clip. Does he? Yeah, I think so. Do you remember if he died? I don't remember if he died. This is how bad my memory is. I don't think he died.

I feel like the only person that actually died was Misha. No, there's definitely other people that died. Didn't the grandpa? Didn't Caleb die? Well, Grandpa's die. Like, that's just fucking part of life. Woof. Hey, Olivia, I'm going through something.

Wow, Grandpa's died, bitch. Copy that. Grandpas die. Every one of us. That's a great book. Wait, I feel like he might have died. You should make a t-shirts for your podcast that say, Grandpa's die. I remember my nephew when he was, like, sick, something happened, and he's like, oh, well, windows break, people die.

What are you going to do? And I was like, he gets it. That's awesome. Yeah. You get it from a very unage. That's some overhearing some parents shit. What'd we do wrong? Jesus, Kevin.

We just like it when you cross frame. Yeah. I'm going to have to look up if Johnny died because now I have to know. But I was going to tell you, Adam was my fiancé in a movie. I want to say we may be made out, but I can't remember. In real life or on the movie? Yeah, both. It was really inappropriate.

Movies are real life. Sorry. Yeah. I'm meth. I'm super method. Oh, that's awesome. Which movie is this? The to-do list.

Yes, okay, because I was supposed to say, I've seen everything he's done. Yeah. Yes. He's so awesome. That's Aubrey, too, right in that movie? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. The whole crew. Maggie Carrey directed?

Yep, she sure did. She's so awesome. I'm good. You're really good. Comedy nerd and on the spectrum. Mealding my powers for good right now. Yeah, Pally and I have been buddies since 2004, and now we host a health and wellness podcast. Okay, I want to, why?

Why? Why? That's a great question. Sometimes, you know, like they say a mechanics car runs the worst. You know what I mean? And like Adam and I previously had a travel show about partying. And then we could not continue to get episodes for that. And we think low-key part of it was people were scared to like pay us to get fucked up and we might die or whatever.

So then we flipped it and we're like, well, what if we did a health and wellness podcast? And then people were interested in that. Oh my God. I love it. And we are so, I'm very curious about that space, but I'm so not really informed. And so it's really fun to do it. We call it a health and wellness podcast from people who are unhealthy and mentally unwell. Which is everyone.

That's everyone else. We just admit to it. Yeah. We just don't take testosterone replacement therapy and then talk about like, well, I'm 66 and jacked. And here's how you do what I do. It's like, no. Trust me. I live with it.

You live with a 66-year-old jack guy? That grandpa, don't die. He's unkillable. Grandmas don't die anymore. They really don't. No, grandpas don't die. They have more kids. They really, in L.A., specifically.

De Niro-O. Pachino are in their 80s and they both have kids under five. Like, they have toddlers. Yes, that's, that gives me so much anxiety as a child, this 40-year-old. That scares me on the sperm, though. Oh, wait, why? I don't think it's your most, you know, I don't think it's your best sperm. But is there a statistic?

Like, does it have an effect? Absolutely. What is it? Oh, I don't know. Wait, off, I'm not going to say it on camera, but I don't know. No, but like, is it more likely to have? Absolutely. Yeah.

Whatever. Yeah. There's issue with age, whether it's eggs or sperm. Yeah. Interesting. Because you always, like, think that guys can just go forever or have kids forever. That's the narrative. It's part of the issue with, like, youth development these days.

Really? We're supposed to eventually not be able to nut. Right. You know what I mean? You know what I mean? It's like, stop that. It's like supposed to be like, it's a biological thing of like, you're, you maybe shouldn't have kids anymore. Right.

But now we have people have money and pills so you can counteract all of that. So that's why. True. It's the money. It's the money. It's the money. Money gets them laid and money gets them to be able to fuck and to be able to have a fleet of nannies help them raise the kids. Oh my God. You think Robert De Niro's like on the ground fucking teaching his kid out of reading shit?

The sea spot run. You know, like he's not doing that shit. He won't get back up. Like, these guys are fucking old, man. That's amazing. I do want to see. I would love to be a fly on ball. Imagine De Niro and Pacino at their kids' Little League game.

Dying. I mean, they won't make it by the time the kids get to literally get. I mean, how old are they 80? I think so. Pacino's in his early 80s. I think De Niro's in his late 70s, early 80s. No, I don't even have a person in my family who lived that long. Like, you can go back on both sides of my family for like millennia,

and no one lived past like 70. And now these guys are fucking heaven. kids at 70. That's why you're doing a wellness podcast. To be fair, part of it is Adam's mom died young and my dad died young. That was also part of the reason why we became party animals was like, oh, life is short and then we're like,

wait, can we make life longer? So then we started doing the show. I think we might be able to. Yeah, I think so. I think it's real. Doctors keep telling me if I just lose eight pounds, I'll be fine. We won't say bleep the number, Kevin. Oh, yeah. But wait, question on having a kid in your 80s

Isn't that... Do you like that you're the expert on this guy? You're the expert, yeah. I do. I'm an old man who still comes. So you are the expert. I've got slightly more experience than you guys. A little bit.

Wait, don't you think that's mildly fucked up to do to a kid? It's like, here's five years with a dad. Well, yeah. That's what you're doing. It's a little crazy because you're like, there's like those dads who are like, I hope I can make it to my son's high school graduation or college graduation. You know what I mean? And then it's like, your dad's like, I hope I live to 105 so I can see you walk in your graduation.

That's terrifying. Right, or 105 to see you make it to preschool. Yeah, depending on when. Yeah, exactly. It's terrifying. It's a little, well, it's a little kind of savage. But obviously the women, the mothers are into it too. right?

Like, they're not... I hope so. I sure hope so. But it does feel like a way to be like, well, you know what? I'll have the Tribeca Film Festival money

for the end, the AGO restaurant money for the rest of my life while I raise De Niro's kids or Pacino's kids. I feel so out of pocket talking about this. It's for you.

Yeah, I have no idea what I'm talking about. I know, but no, I'm really invested. So you have to just pretend like you know what you're talking about. No, but I'm fully invested in everything you're saying. That is their actual facts.

Yeah. So, do you want kids? No. Oh. No, thank you. Please talk about that. Yeah, I have no desire. And your wife doesn't?

My wife does not either. Yeah. We, you know, we tried. We went down the route of talking about it, discussing it. We went as far as IVF and stuff like that. But in the end, we came around to just like, it wasn't really for us. Okay. And I really, I'm sure I'd, you know, my parents were parents.

so I think anyone can fucking pull it off. But that doesn't mean I want to. But I'm very happy as an uncle. And, you know, not to be all like new agey, but I live in Los Angeles. All my family lives on the East Coast. But a lot of my friends have kids who are close in my life. So, you know. Right.

To me, that's like enough of an experience of hanging out with kids is like leaving after playing in the pool with them. That sounds great. I can't even play in the pool with them. No. And I have two. You can't get in the pool with them? No, you need the funcle. Yeah, that's what I'm here for.

You need the funkle. That's what I'm here for. I'm like, Uncle Hollywood. And when I come home, they're like, Uncle Nanny, why are your toes painted? I'm like, because I like color. And my brother's like, don't talk to all you're off about. Don't give my kids ideas. They're like, you always wear the smallest bathing suits.

I'm like, I know. I like to show off. And they're like, Uncle Nani, are we going to wear budgy smugglers next summer? I was like, ah, yeah. And my brother's like, you fucking knock that shit off. Yeah, that's what you're there for. Yeah, I'm the flamboy, like, I'm a overweight, straight white guy, and I'm the most, like, diverse member of my family. So when I come home, they're like, whoa, I'm the one guy who's left Long Island.

So that, like, makes me a fucking hero, like an explorer to them. Yeah. Yeah, we were talking Long Island is where, obviously he just said he brought out. That's where I'm from. I'm from right here. Oh, my God, you have it tattooed? Yeah, that's way in case I pass out drunk somewhere, someone knows that just deliver me there. Who's where to drop you off?

Yeah. Me and my brothers, I have two younger brothers. We all got this together. Really? So you love it? I have such a complex relationship with it. I hated it when I was, I loved it, but then I hated it when I got older. And I went away to college, not far, but I went to New York, upstate New York.

And I was like, oh, man, I got to get that. Then I moved to Brooklyn and I was like, fuck, Long Island. Long Island. So I always say it's 45 minutes away, 45 years behind Manhattan. And then I lived in Brooklyn for like a few. And then eventually my love of Long Island. went from like, went to some ironic phase where I'm like, then all of a sudden I got proudful of it and started to have pride.

And now I'm like completely flipped. I'll never live there. Never. Again. No. Really? But I now have a lot of pride for it. And I really appreciate what it gave to me growing up.

And like, yeah. I appreciate where I come from. Right. Well, clearly. Clearly. Tattooed on your arm. I got it. Almost every single person in my life is like, you know, fucking long.

I saw this thing about Long Island and now I'm texting you. I'm like, yes, I'm the fucking Long Island guy. The dream come true. I'm everybody's Long Island friend. You need one, bro. So would you go into the city a lot growing up? No, we would, sort of, but that was something that's still, this is like the Long Island attitude of like, what the fuck do I need to go to the city for?

You know, we got great Chinese food here or whatever. You know, like a misunderstanding what the city was. And so even though my dad worked in the city, my mom was like afraid of trains and stuff. We would go in to go to a Broadway show, but I did have, in hindsight, I didn't realize how privileged this was. All of my field trips got to be like New York City field trips. That's fun.

So it's like, I've Statue Liberty, Empire State Building, Ellis Island, MoMA, the Met. Like I got to go to all those things as a kid. And that when I was in my early 20s and people would visit me in Brooklyn, they'd be like, do you want to do the empire? I'm like, that shit sucks. And I'm like, oh, wait, no,

I'm just spoiled by the fact that I grew up here. It is majestic to be at the top of the Empire staple. It's hard to argue against. Right. It was the same as like growing up here because we both did in L.A. And then your friends visit you're like, what's Disney? You're like, I'm not going today. No.

Or like the, you know, man's Chinese theater. Oh, geez. No. Oh, yeah. We don't do that. The Hollywood Walk of Fame. Yes. Is the like.

One of my proudest moments ever is my mom visiting. She's like, Jonathan, I want to do the Hollywood Walk of Fame. Everyone was saying the Hollywood Walk of Fame. I was like, Mom, it's fucking Times Square. It's disgusting. She's like, no, come on. I was like, fine, fine. You ready?

Like, I felt like a dad who caught his kid smoking. I'm like, come with me, mom, here we go. Here we go. Hollywood and Highland, take a lap. And she's just like, people are like, you want that picture with Batman? He's like, terrorists. Terrorists.

Terrorists. I was going to say tourists. Sprite and slip. There's terrorists everywhere. Bomb vests going on. Taurus drinking fucking like two-liter Pepsi's and Jean Shorts. My mom's like, I want to try to find Elvis. I'm like, shut the fuck up.

Look around you. We have to get out of here. There's a guys who are like, you want to rent the Lamborghini for the day? That could be fun. I'm like, get the fuck. You can't get in and out of this thing. Yeah.

Oh, my God. I cannot stand. But I imagine when people visit, that's the kind of shit that they heard about is cool. They heard about it. Yeah. And I'm like, no, I'll take you to in and out. It's like my extent of like,

I'll give you this L.A. experience. Right. In and out is as far as I go. That's all you get. What about Venice. What it used to be when we were kids? Yeah. Compared to like if someone wants to go see it now.

It's actually the same. I went recently. Do you want to buy a tank top? Yeah, it's the same. A spray-painted piece of driftwood. Yeah, it's the same dude rollerblading with his boom box. He's still there? He is.

Stop it. Yeah, the last time I went, I was like, he's here, you know? That's kind of awesome. That's the stairs. Fuck it. I'm doing this for long after rollerblades are interesting. Like, the guy, like, you know what I mean? He was probably skating up until the 90s.

then jump to the blades. To the blades. And now he's stuck with the blades. Did you roller blade? Oh, I bladed. I bladed, babe. Let's just say. What?

I have a really serious question. No, it is. This is actually, these are the things that matter to me. Do you rollerblade? I, of course, used to roller blade. I was like a kid in the 80s and 90s, so I skateboarded. I rolled bladed. I played roller hockey, which is apparently.

I moved from like an all black town to an all white town when I was like 13. And when I showed up there, that's when I learned roller hockey, skateboarding, inline skating, like all this stuff. And we used to do something that was called aggressive skating, which is where you had, like, grind plates and, like, different wheels. And you would do tricks like a skateboarder. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Go to a skate park and we'd do, like, grinds and all that kind of stuff. And it was, excuse me, coffee. See?

Yeah, accessible, relatable. I was a fat little kid, and I was just not good at any of this stuff. But all my friends did it. So we'd be like, let's go skate to McDonald's. And I'd be like, great. And I'd be like kind of holding my board under my arm and like jogging for a little because I couldn't keep up with everyone. But, yeah, rollerblading was a major part of my life.

But I do remember what, yeah. You did. I do remember when homophobia came for me and I just stopped rollerblading at some point. Yeah. What? We were just like, oh, it's gay. I can't do it. You know what I mean?

Like, that happened to like, unfortunately in the mid-90s, like so much. I stopped riding my bike when my mom told me I had to wear a helmet. Because that's gay. Yeah, because I was like when New York added, I'm like, no, mom, everyone's going to think I'm gay because I'm helmet on. It's like, everyone already thinks you're gay because you dress like a vacationing tourist. Terrorist. A vacationing terrorist.

All you have is your bomb fest and your Tommy Bahama jacket. I already was kind of the gay one in my family because I liked movies. Like too much. That was enough in like fucking. Lacho misogynistic world I grew up in. But there's three brothers, like you and your two brothers, is that it? Yeah. Okay.

And you're the oldest. I'm the oldest, yeah. Okay. They are now 40. Younger. Yeah, they are now. But it's, I don't feel old when I have a birthday, but when my young brother had his 35th birthday, like my baby brother. Yeah.

He's getting married. He bought a house. He's 35. Like, that shit, like, got me. Yeah. I was like, I'm fucking old. This is the game. I went to our mutual friend Adam Palo.

Yeah. I went to his kids, Benai Mitzva. And I was like, I've known Adam and Daniela since before the kids were born. Wow. So I'm like now at a bar mitzvah. And I'm like, I'm really proud of you, man. Okay. Good to see you again, Capris.

Well, yeah, that's the shit that makes me feel older than my own members. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. When you're like, oh, Jake, my youngest brother, you were like a legit baby. I babysat. And now I'm like going to your bachelor party. I'm like, where was the Bachelor Party? That's coming up.

Oh, it hasn't happened yet. Where is it? It's going to Toronto. What? It's a weird one, right? Yeah, it's very rare. Here, I'll back you up to explain it. Yeah, please do.

My dad died like shortly before my wedding, like the year of my wedding. And my dad had never, no one in my family had ever traveled out of the country. Yeah. Except for my dad went to Germany with his stepdad. Before his stepdad died, he took him there because that's where my grandpa was from. So me and my brothers made a pact While my dad was sick and bad We were like

All of us have to pick our bachelor parties To go out of the country So that the three of us get to do Three international trips And maybe we do Of course I've done way more Because I don't I leave Long Island And leave California

But we made a pact to be like And so I went to Munich October fest for my bachelor party Wow My middle brother We went to Amsterdam for his And now My youngest

And Toronto? But my young My youngest brother's friend group, and he just bought a house and his money is not exactly the same. So he's like, here's how we can go international, but my friends could drive if they really must.

That's cute. And he's also like a foodie, and he loves Maddie Matheson, who I guess has a few restaurants in Toronto. Great. Okay, so it makes sense. It makes sense. It doesn't have the coolest thing of Munich, Amsterdam,

but you can do the C&Tower, and you could do the Edge Walk. Yeah. Edgewalk. Yeah. Okay. Tell your brother. I guess you're having.

Tell your brother you should do it. All right, we are. We're doing it. You don't even know what it is. That's the kind of shit I'm going to bring. Like when we went to my brother's bachelor party in Amsterdam, I'm like, dude, you know there's the Van Gogh Museum here? And they have the fucking full-size copy of the potato eaters, my favorite Van Gogh and my brother's friends. And I'm the old one.

They're all like, okay. And I take them to the Van Gogh museum, they just sit in the lobby at a table and I just go and walk the old. I'm like, are you guys ready to go? They're like, yep. They get up and walk. Came ready. I was like, oh, thanks for coming. I appreciate it.

But if you're ever in Amsterdam, in addition to, you know, the cafes, I highly recommend seeing the potato eaters live. It's an enormous fucking painting. It's awesome. I don't know which one the potato eaters is. Me neither. It's like this super rich black background,

and it's a group of, it's like so not, like, weird. It's a group of, like, poor people eating. But it's just like the canvas is such a rich color of black. It's like you feel like you're looking. It feels like it has such intense depth, even though it's just like. But you said it's a copy of it?

No, no, no, sorry. It's the original. Yeah. Yeah. But it's like, it's like six feet high and like 12 feet across. It's like enormous. Wow. See that?

I would like to see that. Thank you. I want to see that. I want to see that. You know what I want to know is if you had to give us a prescription for life based on everything you've learned in your health and wellness journey, what would you, what would you have us do? Oh, man. Okay. Welcome to broad ideas.

Yeah. Look, I always say, like, I always say, I always say, when people ask me health advice, something that really happens. Someone's looking at me just sweating, sitting at a cafe, like, sir, do you have any fitness advice for me? No, but I would say things that you could do that are very easy for yourself. Sorry, that are low-lift, but obviously difficult based on different people's lives. But drink more water, get more sleep, and try to move every day.

Okay. And like, eliminate in your head that you need 90 minutes of exercise a day. If you can get it, great. But if you can only get 10 minutes, 10 will always be better than zero. Okay. And that's something that I've just learned over the years from my co-host and my other podcast, Ryan Stanger, his whole thing is like, anything is better than nothing. But you can get in your head about like, I need to have the perfect workout. Should I do Pilates burn or should I lift weights or should I go for a run or like fuck I only have 40 minutes

I can't go for my full 5k or whatever it's like then you do a 2k like whatever you need to do just because that's more important than nothing. Yeah. Yeah and it's like all my advice is sort of like easy like This is like I'm not going to be like yeah. I love easy. Yeah. I also another thing is find something like a sport or an activity you're passionate about, even if it's not the best exercise, you're so much more likely to do that. If you really like hiking or skating or swimming or rowing, rollerblading. Or playing basketball, playing volleyball, even stuff that you used to do when you were younger

that feels crazy to do. One advantage of living in Los Angeles or in any major city is like, you can play in an adult volleyball league that's as competitive as you need it to be, or an adult basketball league or adult, you know, insert anything. I take martial arts in a park from like a fucking guy. Do you?

Yeah. Is that your thing? Yeah, it's one of my things. I want to know all the things. Wait, so have you adopted any of these things and like changed your behaviors from learning this stuff? It's the minimum dose thing that I, yeah. Someone perfect is the enemy of progress. So I get in my head about like, well, if I can't go to the gym and lift weights and get the stair mill in,

then why am I even fucking working out? I might as well just order postmates get high and like, you know what I mean? I could usually flip to like, well, then I need to destroy myself. Right. But now, as I've gotten older, I'm like, if I would have, if you, if you take a week off working out, or you take a week where you only get 10 minutes of working out, at the end of the week, you've done 50 minutes or 70 if you worked out on the weekend, you know what I mean? And like 70 versus zero is so much better.

You know what I mean? Like, you can add one pound to your dumbbells. And it's not a lot, but if you do 10 reps, that's 10 pounds you've added. If you do 10 reps and five sets, 50 pounds. You know, you do that over five days. You've added 250 pounds of work to your week, you know? Right. And it doesn't feel, it's so funny how small of a little increase or a progress can really,

what it can really mean in the long run. Yeah. You're microdosing health and wellness. I'm microdosing health and wellness. Yeah. That's kind of my move. Yeah. I like it.

Yeah, I think that's a good formula. But it's, what you're saying is actually so true. I remember. One lady, like one health, I don't know what she is fitness instructor, was like this is 20 minutes out of 24 hours in a day. Yes. And if you really look at the fact that you have 24 hours, 20 minutes, 10 minutes, five minutes is like.

You have 72 20 minute periods. How do you have all these numbers like that? Spectrum. Not just the cable company. So you have 72, 20 minutes. minute sessions. Wow. You're going to dedicate, you're going to dedicate 24 of them to sleep.

That's eight hours. You know what I mean? That still leaves you with 48, 20 minutes sessions. If you can exercise, you can exercise 20 minutes in the morning, 20 minutes in between at lunch. And what does exercise even mean? Could mean walking. Could mean just standing next to your desk doing some squats, banging out some push-ups,

or-banging it out. Yeah. A little more work and a few pills and a few different, a lot of it. elements to be in play, but yes, yeah, that's good cardio. That's cardio. But I don't know what I would do with the other 17 minutes of that 20 minutes session. I guess I can do push-ups after the fact.

I'll go get a towel. I'll go get the baby wipes and then I just dropped and push-up. No, keep the baby wipes on the nightstand. Come on, people. We're grown-ups. I feel like that needs to be incorporated into a movie. What, baby wipes on the nightstand? No, that's already been in many movies.

the push-ups. Yeah, just like, you know, like this whole mentality of like, you know, you need 20 minutes, whatever, and like what the person is doing. I think I just came up with a movie that you're going to make. Oh, yeah.

Well, we can recast me in development, but I'm happy to be on board for the beginning. Yeah, because like stuff that I never thought of was like, oh, I really like to walk and go on, like, many adventures. In the pandemic, I really locked into the idea of walking can be an adventure. And, uh,

just like, out of that's desperate. I was desperate for an adventure. Yeah. And I realized walking can be. Because if you walk down a street, you drive past all the time. Even like, I lived in the same apartment for 13 years. I drove down the same streets all the time. If you walk those streets, you're like, there's this like Russian bakery in here.

Like there's so many businesses and so many things you don't realize are like, wow, this house looks like a fucking honeycomb. Like there's so many weird things going on. And then I found that in the pandemic. But whatever. Rewind all the way to say is like, I'll now go like, oh shit i have to i have to call my mom or whatever she's been dying to talk all right i'm gonna go on a walk and call my mom yeah i'm gonna go on a walk and call my friend um and like those things where i i'm

like i could just sit at home and make this phone call but i should probably get some steps in too yeah okay that's an easy thing yeah it's an easy thing walking is and we guys walking is fucking rat yeah it's it's not easy for everyone i will cop to that but we happen to live in southern california where you can walk pretty much 351 days out of the year, you know? Yeah. Sometimes it's way too hot and like once it rains, you know, or eight or nine days of complete fire. But other than that, if you're not dealing with any one of the four elements,

I guess there's earthquakes too. Holy shit, cat the planet coming for SoCal. Heart. But like we can walk every, like we have beautiful weather. We have like, you don't have to bundle up. And like. You're just saying there's no excuse. We can do it.

We can do it. And I will still have a day. where I'm like, it's like 9 p.m. and I don't think I've done anything. Just because of the way my job works where it's like, oh, thank God I got nothing to do today. All right, I'll do this. And then all of a sudden it's like, okay, you need to move.

Like, I like to set errands that require walking. Or I add walking. What are the errands that require walking? Like, I'm like, oh, I need stamps. Oh, I'll walk to the post office today and just to get my stamps. And like, or like I'll walk to the grocery store. I'm like, or if I want naughty food in the evening. Yeah.

And this is male privilege that I can walk at night. I understand that. This giant male privilege. Are you going to get canceled for saying you can walk at night? Yeah. Sorry, ladies, but I walk it at night. I'm scaring women off the streets by walking at night. I'm absolutely harmless, but I get it.

I would walk away from the guy smoking weed in a fucking hoodie too. But I will make, like, oh, I want to do something kind of, oh, I want to get a coffee from this coffee shop. Or I want to write at this coffee shop. I'd be like, well, just walk. Yeah. And then adding that, and granted, it adds like a half hour, 40 minutes, depending. But that's the mentality I'm trying to get over.

Where it's like that 40 minutes of walking is better than whatever 40 minutes I save elsewhere. Right. True. And you probably make it up. You probably get more minutes in your day because you're more present. Yes. Since you did the thing. Right.

True. You feel. And this is where it gets into muddy water where you're like, don't stress about productivity. Get your exercise done. But it will actually make. you're like, I know, I know, I just sit. Don't think about productivity. Right.

Come on. We're all just gristle for the fucking capitalism machine. We're all just blood. We're just blood being converted into Bitcoin. Let's just let it rip. Let it rich. I think that you and Adam on your wellness podcast should just be like doing squats while you're interviewing.

That's actually a really. We should start taking a break every few minutes. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, that's really fun. We only got 72 opportunities in the day. Yeah. Fuck, dude.

You got to get after it. You did say something really important that I, I want to circle back to, which is naughty food at night. Yeah. What is it? Oh, please, please share. Oh, I'm just. Food's our favorite.

I'm a, yeah. Again, I don't mean to just keep showing tattoos, but. What? I have that. Oh, my God. That is my soul. It's the traditional, like, heart that usually says mom, but his says food. Yeah.

Yes. And that really made my mom happy. The woman who hates tattoos, and she's like, what does it say? I'm like, well, food. It's sort of an homage to my mom. who's overweight and been feeding me my whole life. She likes food. We all like food.

What did she feed you growing up? She was a reservations mom. Even though she was fully Italian, she was like a, we're going to Friendlies because I want ice cream. We're going to here because this is what I want to try. And my mom wasn't really a cook. But she would make sauce or gravy. Yeah, gravy on Sundays.

And then we would eat that. So I had like pasta and sauce like three nights a week. Yeah. And then or like, and we would always have like a sandwich night. And then my dad, who worked nights every once in a while when he was around, he would like cook. And that was always just like chicken or steak on the grill and packaged vegetables and packaged noodles or rice. But I've always found comfort in food. I've always made friends with food.

Every in-law I've ever had, every adult I've ever met in my life has loved my appetite. And, you know, I feel like I maybe they all set me down a bad path. in life where I found happiness in food, not fuel. So now I seek happiness from my meals. And then I can eat healthy for like five days in a row. And I'm like, well, now it's time to actually enjoy yourself. Even though like I totally enjoyed the healthy chicken and salad I had at great white. It was delicious.

But now I'm at home and I'm like, all right, the sun is set. I'm high. What are we doing? No one can see you, Gabris. You're alone. You know, I like eat in the dark with my shirt off. I like it in private. I like it in private.

I would rather, like it in private. I would rather someone video me jerking off than video me eating alone in the dark. One would repulse you so much more than, and they're both disgusting, but one is definitely grosser. We need to know what you're eating. Yeah. I'm eating whatever. My favorite shit is I love Mexican food and I love sandwiches. We need details here though.

You got like into it. Mexican food at night. Like, I'm a fucking. Taco Bell Junkie my whole life. What's your order? It all depends. This shit goes viral. I'm a CGC to the core guy.

Cheesy Gordita Crunch. I'll do it with the nacho cheese shell. I miss the Cool Ranch Shell. Bring it back, baby. I'm a huge, beefy, five-layer fan. I always get beefy-five layer. I always get a chicken cassidia. A caeserito or a grilled cheese burrito, one of those two. I like the texture on those bad boys.

I can't get enough of those nasty little Cinnabon dessert popper things. Someone else told us about this. Yeah, I have not tried them. They are repulsive, but amazing. We had Nicole on and she was talking about those Oh, yeah, well, of course. She was talking about, yeah, yeah,

Nicole. Yeah, that makes sense. Oh, you mean Nicole Byer, one of my friends who were planning to get a matching Taco Bell tattoo? Are you? Oh, and while I'm just, I have me and Adam Pally are matching dice tattoos. I haven't on my back, my shoulder he has on his. That's my new thing, my midlife crisis. Matching tattoos. Yeah, we're addicted to him and I are Vegas heads and specifically craps and specifically the role of a hard 10 5 5 5

yeah so I have 5 10 too know my shoulder yeah um did I rattle off all the stuff no talk about yeah talk about and then like that's my go-to-order but I also love street tacos Guilla Guetta on Melrose and Vine I love cactus I love a few uh I'm a huge Alpastore guy so if I can get Alpastore that's that's what you're going for I have the best carnius I have the best place for you in it's in the Valley Okay, I'm... It's out of a gas station. Yes.

Salonra. Have you heard of it? Is it in the amic... No, what's the name of the gas station that it's in? I don't know. Because it's not called like Amico Ta-Coh. I feel like it's like Deep Valley. No, it's like Van O-in and Coldwater or something crazy like that out of a gas station.

I think I've had it once because a friend used to live in the Deep Valley. You have to try these tacos if you ever come visit me. And that made me visit it. That made it. I was like, okay, I'll come see you and your son and meet your kids. But you said we can go to tacos ever? I think we should have a food show. Like they have a health and wellness.

Our should be food where we just talk about it a lot. No, it's like next level. Tell Kevin to talk to headgum, get a food budget, and you guys can make some excuse that every time we're eating? What is it? Like muck banging. Yeah, we want a muck bang. That's the show.

Make me a muck baker. Where we line up food and we come in one at a time and eat it. Combining all our. loves here. Oh my God, yes. Wait, you said something else though, Mexican. What was the other thing? I have sandwiches.

Sandwiches. Yes. We need to go. I'm a huge sandwich guy. Okay. Go. And this is where I will, this is the only time and maybe in some pizza conversations and definitely bagel conversations where I'll get on my East Coast high horse.

I do find that it's easier to get good sandwiches in more places in New York. Like in New York, the city or any of the boroughs or any of the tri-state area, each town pretty much has like 11 delis you can choose and get a decent. There are obviously the best ones or the better ones. In L.A., you're down to like eight places that make really good sandwiches. Where do you go here? Here, I think some of the best sandwiches are at Giata, cities, potato chips, Mamie is a new one in West Hollywood.

That's really good. And Bubbs and Grandma and what are? some other good ones I've had. My brand, I'm a little fried, right? You know, like Uncle Pauley's. Yeah, dude. Yeah, it's a bummer. Yeah.

Also, they put yellow mustard on their godmother, which I don't love as like a, that's a little, but I don't hate it either. I'll allow it because that's the best Italian combo you can, I can find. Yeah, it is. But my favorite sandwich, my bodega go to is chicken colored bacon, cheese, lettuce, mayonnaise, no tomato on a hero. Like, that's it. I get that everywhere.

My favorite deli growing up on Long Island is in Merrick. It's called My Hero. I went there all the time. Cash only closed Sundays my whole life. And there are three big menu items for the chicken club, the four menu sandwich I made. I had cheese, loose tomato. They had the champ, which is the Italian. And then they had the All-American, which is like the ham, turkey, roast beef,

co-gut combo. But all three of those sandwiches, absolute fucking bangers. Yeah. It's making me hungry. I'm starving. Starving. We're all salivating. At my wedding for the recipe, all it was was sandwiches.

So each table was named, like your table that you got was named after different sandwiches. So then it was like the meatball sandwiches, the sub sandwich. And then that's what we served was a bunch of sandwiches. You should remember what table I was at. And I think you were at the meatball sandwich. That would make sense. Meatball sandwich. Slobber dro.

Slobber dro. Yeah. Slobber dro. Yeah. You didn't know what was coming for you today. I made a mean sloppy Joe. Do you? You do.

I love a slop. My daughter, love a sloppy Joe, but you got to have Ruffles potato chips. Like the ridges. Yeah. Ruffles had a ridges. I put it in.

I always need a crunch in my sandwich, no matter what. You are preaching to the quiet. Yeah, I'm not anti-crunch at all. I can go without it, but I do. No, no, I cannot. A big thing in my junior high growing up,

and I guess my high school, too, was cream cheese bagel, pour Doritos on it, and smush it down. What? And it was... Like a nacho or a ranch? People had preferences, but most people like the cheese ones.

Yeah. But that's the most long island shit ever is that our school had bagels also. Do you want lunch or do you want a bagel and cream cheese? Oh, man. I would do that like three days a week. But with Doritos. Yeah, so good. That's interesting.

You talk about liking a little crunch on the sandwich. Gotta have crunch. Got to have crunch. We grow up and eventually you're like, oh, I'll do locks, onions, and capers. But when you're a kid, you're like, no way. Give me the fucking Doritos. Yes. Hell yeah.

That's interesting. As you're a kid specifically a goy on Long Island, a non-Jewish kid. You're like, I'm not eating fish at breakfast. And now that I'm grown up, I'm like, give me the locksmear. I love that. Do you have you found good bagels here? I found passable bagels. I've not had the big ones that everyone loves.

Courage and essence. Courage and they're amazing. I've not had those. But bagel broker on Beverly over by the Grove is very solid bagels. Sam's on Sunset. Yeah, and there's one in Larchmont, too. Pretty solid a bagel. and I don't hate pops.

I have not had pops. Pops is like... I do not know of this. Here's a problem with like L.A. sandwiches and bagels. It's like you can't spend less than $18 on one, which makes no sense. Whereas like when I lived in New York, I lived in Brooklyn in my early 20s, this would be the mid-aughts. And it would be like, for $5, I could have like a bacon, egg, and cheese and a coffee every morning. And now like nothing is $5 anymore.

No. Not even Doritos. No, like truly nothing is $5. No. It's weird. It's fucked up. Crazy. What are grandma's supposed to put in birthday cards? If $5 can't get you shit anymore, poor grandma's are going to have to start putting it. And you know what?

Windows break, grandma's die. That's right. What are you going to do? RIP, grandma, mama. Windows break, people die, inflation is real. You know? Money is fake. Inflation is real. We all chase it. We're all blood for the capitalist machine.

Take the stairs instead of the elevator. We caught this. Yes, we could do this. We can live forever. We have just enough time in our lives to make more money and give more money to more corporations. Fingers crossed. That's the only fucked up part of living longer is you have to, you have to work a lot longer. Yeah, I mean, there's like fucking, you go to, look at our politicians. If an 80-year-old guy showed up to work at your fucking bagel place, you'd be like, buddy, go home and sleep. So true.

But Stan's like, hey, you want the nuclear codes? Go nuts, motherfucker. Shit. Like, you would not hire an 80-year-old personal assistant. You'd go like, look, I'm not an ageist, but I just need someone. And also, I think I want you to be able to just chill. You feel like you'll have a few years left. Why don't you just, you have seven kids under the age of five?

Okay. But like, just I want you to be able to relax and unwind. And it's like, oh, why would you, I think you could run a country, a city, a council, or whatever. Oh, my God. They can't even work a phone. Yeah. Or, yeah. No, I'm serious.

My mom cannot FaceTime without it aimed. anywhere else up than her face. You're not of up the nose FaceTime calls I've had with family where they're like if you put it on the table it's easier. It's like, no, it is not. No. Or then they think they hang up but you're just listening to them for the next

20 minutes. Yeah, and they're like revealing plans to bomb Yemen or whatever by accident. Or talking about their sandwich order. Hello? That I would be listening to. That I'm curious about. Yeah. There is a great sandwich place. I'm going to shout it out in the Dina

Perry's joint Oh, I will Low key Where is it? It's my favorite Is the Dina Pasadena? Well, it's kind of like It borders Altadena Pasadena

So I'm saying the Dina I like that It's on Lincoln Did you create that slang? No, people say the Dina Oh, okay I thought you were just like You hear it first

That's like the spinoff of the OCE When they're like in their 40s They moved to the Dina The Dina. The Dina California Out to Dina That's right

Yeah That's really funny You gotta go You gotta go now Let's fucking Let's fucking please Wrap this shit up I know you guys

This is a field trip Yeah it's just Matt Kevin grabbed the mics He's like Following us all the way That would be fun I want to do a food tour Me too

Let's fucking go Let's do it Take the podcast You could do like You could do a smash up Right Like we're gonna focus on what's going to kill you, and then you guys

are going to focus on what's going to heal us from the food. I mean no judgment by this, because it's in my brain, too. But isn't it broken that when we're like, hey, we should all get food together, the next step in our mind is like, and we can monetize it by making it about our podcast. That's everything I do.

I understand completely. But it is crazy that that's because we need money to stay alive. And like, blood for the machine. But it is kind of like, I was like, oh yeah, it can be fun. We could rent, we could rent like a bus to drive us to five spots and we can have drinks or smoke in between or whatever. It's like, oh, that sounds amazing.

It's like, but we should probably record it and make it content and make money and get an advertiser. That's everything. And then all of a sudden you're like, fuck. I've monetized like all of my hobbies and habits in a way which you're-smart. But it's smart, but then there's less and less that you're doing just for yourself. Well, take the time for yourself. Right.

You got it. You got it. You do it night shirtless when you're eating your shrieve food. That's just for me. I'm my only fan. Gabris muck bang. People are getting paid to degrade people. Why shouldn't we get paid to eat in front of people?

You know what I mean? People are getting paid really good money. Wait, but I just think of it as like a travel show where they would explore different, you know, countries and cities and eat the food there. Yeah, let's go. Totally. What's the difference? No, there is no difference. But there's...

Have, like, mascara on your face. Sorry. Okay. But it's also possible that you can get a group of friends together to go eat at Perry's place and hang out for the afternoon. right? But like, yeah. But that's not where my brain goes first. My brain goes. We're not bringing cameras inside Perry's.

That is like, you know, a very sacred. We want to gatekeep it a little. We need to gate keep it a little. We already spilled the tea. Everyone already knows about Perry. We should do it. We should do it like a, what is that show called? Oh, the magician's secrets revealed.

Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Wait, but you know what? We're not going to show you where it is. Can I be a little sentimental? because I was reading about some restaurants that survived the fire, at least in

Altadena, right? And they're having a hard time getting business because of the fires and a lot of things around them aren't there anymore. But what if we go and like shout it out and help these the peoples that are still there? Let's fucking go. Overpay, over tip and put out.

And put out. And put out. Let's fuck out. That's our favorite thing. Hey Perry, I'm here, daddy. What is this? We heard that you guys are a little under the water financially, so I'm let you fuck me. It's my first gay experience. Well, this level of gay experience. I thought a little.

You know what? We don't have to get into it all now, Perry. Perry, where are you going? Yes. So basically, we stuck the landing right there. We got to put out. That's a fucking given. Don't worry, ladies.

I got this one. Perry, you're coming with me, brother. If this bus is a rockin, don't coming up. That'll bring customers. 100%. Okay, we want to see what I do first. 30 seconds.

Yeah. It's a short ad. My athletic greens ad is longer. My athletic greens. Oh my God. How specific is my favorite. I did, well, they no longer sponsor my podcast, so no.

So, no. I don't think they sponsor any. I haven't heard them in a while. Yeah, where are they? They're probably being sued. They're probably a class action lawsuit for people who have had diarrhea for six years. Oh my God. Yeah, if I didn't get it for free, I wouldn't take it.

But while we're talking about athletic greens, one thing I did like about it was that it made you drink a glass of water in the morning. Yeah. So if that's a good habit to have. And if you're adding powdered vitamins of some sort, I guess that also helps. I don't know if it's the right. financial return on that, but drinking a large glass of water first thing in the morning is very helpful. You know, we've been just spent eight hours not drinking. See?

We did. We did. That's true. Okay. So what I want to know before we wrap this thing, shouldn't dig up. I'm not going anywhere. So you're a permanent fixture in broad ideas. I want to know like three of the most like important tips you've learned thus far on the wellness podcast. Ooh, okay. Okay, interesting.

He's like, I already gave him to you. I know, I'm like, I'm like, I'm going to give three different. Move your body, sleep, and drink water, and don't be an asshole. Those are like, those are like my three. Or maybe the most, like, surprising. I don't know. Yeah. We had an immunologist from the NIH, RIP, the NIH. but she

said that one thing we should be doing is eating more cruciferous vegetables. Yeah. And that's a word... What the hell is that? Exactly. Broccoli cauliflower.

Like leafy, those kind of... The cruciferous is like, means like tree-like. So those tree-like veggies are really good for us and very nutrient dense. And it is funny that like I'm 43 years old and I need like a doctor to go like, you should eat broccoli. And I'm like, interesting.

I never really considered that. That's my big takeaway. I've learned about, I've talked to various doctors about the therapeutic healing powers of ketamine and psilocybin and DMA. That's been really interesting to me. The guy is really good at that. Yeah, that is something that's a little easier than going for a jug. Your old Balgabas here rather eat an eighth than get on the scale. My scale is this big.

It's just stems and caps. And then, hmm, what? One thing, this, one thing I'm trying to do that I don't know, it's collected from various different guests on the pod, but one thing I'm trying to do is like take moments, I guess people would call it like gratitude or whatever. But every once in a while, every once in a while,

I just need to be like, Because I'm always going like, you've got broad ideas. After you leave broad ideas, you got to go, maybe you have time to get a coffee. But you can just take a moment and just go like,

holy shit, this is like, look at the mountains. That's fucking crazy. You're like, well, that plant's really weird looking. Like, just take a moment. Because, again, my dad died young. No one in my family lived that long.

And it's like, there's plenty of time to work. There's plenty of time to do all this shit. And it's like, just take a fucking moment and be like, can you believe we're sitting at, one time a friend said to me, We were on a gig. The waiting room was a VIP.

We were hosting some kind of like live thing. The green room was in the VIP box at the San Diego baseball stadium. Closed stadium. There's fireworks going off. We're just in the VIP box. And a friend turns to me and goes, this is what we're doing on a fucking Thursday. Right. And it was just like, oh, I have to take a moment to think of that.

And to quote my friend Neil Casey, we got to be back. backstage at some insane music festival and he turned to me and goes, this is what we get to do because we're just a little bit funnier than other people. And it's like, just remember that. You're just slightly funnier than normal people. So you get to be backstage watching Mumford and Sons perform. It's like these moments in life that you almost take it for granted. You know what I mean?

Even like, oh shit, I got to spend 10 minutes with my nephew. Like I never got this much direct contact. You know, it's like that shit's a treat. Yeah. Yeah. Sometimes you just got to hide in the shitter and look at your phone. But this is a beautiful moment. It's the only time to take some moment.

The peas. No, but it's true. And what I like about what you're offering is it wasn't just one thing as far as broccoli. Right. It's not just the broccoli. It's not the sleeping or the one. None of it is isolated. Yeah.

And if you don't have the gratitude, you can do all those things and still be a miserable fuck. Yes. I know so many assholes with six packs. Yeah. You know what I mean? They all are assholes. I know so many ripped losers. You know what I mean?

Like one doesn't be get, you don't get happy once you get fit. You know what I mean? I know. It helps. The journey helps with the happiness more than the results. Like that's another thing when you're a kid and you're in your 20s and you're fucking drinking all the time and not gaining weight and you're just living like

this party lifestyle and some 40-year-old friend of yours is like, if I don't go on three runs a week, I'm fucking brutally upset. You're like, fuck you, loser. And then when you're older, you're like, I haven't, I need to get outside more. You know, like, you feel that of like, I don't even exercise to look good anymore. I just exercise to hate myself less. Yeah. And it works.

You know, I feel like, I'm like, I'll just get out of the gym and be like, fuck, dude, look at you. No difference whatsoever. But my, my view of myself is completely changed. It's so good. You carry yourself different. Like, going into like a shitty audition when you feel bad about yourself is so different than going into a shitty audition when you have like, you have like, you carry yourself. eating healthy and got a good night's rest, all of a sudden you're like, it's your fault I didn't book this.

You're not the vibe. Yeah, you're the one who's uncomfortable on camera. Yeah, you're desperate. You need something for me. I don't want to give you. Well, I think this is, these are all very simple, but very rewarding. What's the word I'm looking for? Nuggets.

Antiquotes. Anecdotes. Yeah, that's what I need. Wimble wisdom. I am like a giant fucking St. Bernard. I need like simple reward. Like, you know, sit, get a treat. Yeah.

Like, that works for me mentally. So I've always like shrunk everything down to those kind of like nuggets, anecdotes. We don't have a word for it. We don't. We're coming up with it. There's a good book. You guys should do a whole other episode about it. There's a good book you might like.

It's called The Kaizan Way. And it's called One Small Step Can Change Your Life. And the whole premise is that. They're like, say you want to change something. You want to clean out your garage. Don't go clean out your garage. Your first step is just open the garage door. Close it.

Then the next time open it, go in. Then the next time. And so it teaches you it's building upon. Oh, I love it. You dig it. One day at a time. Yes. My Spanish teacher tells me.

There you go. See, I told you, I do a lot of weird shit. I take Spanish classes. I like it. I can't do the shit with a kid. You got to sign them up for stuff I want to do activities Yeah

I do painting on Tuesday I do Yeah That sounds like a good time I like it I like it We like you Yeah we do

Thank you so much for having me This was a real tree Thank you for coming on We're very excited about your podcast You just have a good time everywhere you go don't you Yeah I'm kind of And kind of known as a good time I like we love a good time

Yeah My therapist would tell you otherwise but he's the only one that knows all that. Kevin, Kevin also edits one of my podcasts, so he knows. I'm sure your wife knows too. Yeah.

Would you say in a two and a half hour podcast, do we say eight times, Kevin take this out? It's one of my favorite things about the show. Kevin has a Dropbox folder that he can click and nuke all of us. Like when he's on his deathbed, he's like,

R-I-B-Podcaster. Six-hour cancel rule comes out. That's what makes it good. Well, thanks so much. Please, a pleasure. I'll see you guys soon. You will. We're going on the food tour.

We're going to Paris Place. Yeah, we're going. All of it. That name is burned into my head, and I will be there. I will be going to be going. And cilantro in the deep valley. Cilentro in the deep valley. This is just a podcast about shouting out the best places to eat around Los Angeles.

Good. Yeah. Thanks for listening, everybody, and see you next week. Okay. Hell yeah. Didn't you think as a kid would do? I don't know if this was a Santa Barbara thing, but did you ever have a moment where you're like,

obviously I'm going to marry a lifeguard? Never once. Oh, okay. Marry a lifeguard? Oh, my God, I thought I would marry a lifeguard. Well, you kind of did. I did. Did you ever have that thought, Kevin?

Probably after watching the sandlot. There's like a big scene in the sandlot with the lifeguard and the guy fake drowned so he can kiss her. Oh, my God, that's right, Smalls. No. I don't think it's. It's the guy with the glasses. Yeah, it isn't, who's the guy with the glass?

I'll have to look it up. I don't know. Also, Baywatch. Oh, yeah. Wait, hold on, Sanlott. The main guy in Sanlot had the biggest crush on him. You didn't? I don't remember.

Any of the Jet Rodriguez. Hell yeah. Who is he? What? I have to look him out. Oh, my God. I had it on the MHS and burned through it many times. Love that.

I actually showed the trailer to Briar not long ago to try to get her to watch it. You had a crush on this guy? You didn't have a crush on him when you were a kid? What year is the Sandlot? It is 1993. Yeah, I mean, that's prime. You had a crush on this guy? Yeah, there's Scotty Smalls.

I love Pat. We know Pat. Wait, don't we? Didn't we know him? Pat, so we know Pat? Okay. He's really funny. Pat is, oh my gosh, we should have Pat on him.

I love that. Oh, is it this guy? I run into him at the park. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah.

That's the one. That's the vibe right there. Yep, you know it. Rachel. She could literally, any guy should be like, that one. Yes.

Because she would agree because she'd feel the same way. There's a certain vibe, and he's got it. There's a certain vibe. Like a crunch wrap Supreme is a vibe. I know. I was thinking about the food spinoff we would do.

Yeah. Bread ideas. Kevin! Kevin! Do you know who I was right there? Yes, you were home alone. Home alone. Okay, good.

Thank God. Hello. Yeah. Holy shit is happening. Okay, everybody, if you believe in us and feel like... Or bread. Believe in us or... Yeah, you don't need to believe in bread.

I thought you were renaming it again. No bread. No, no. He nailed it. Bread ideas. And then at the end of the episode, we have our bread winner. Oh. You know?

I love it. I love it. All the things we try. Bread ideas. Hold on. Kevin, I'm so serious. Great. Let's do it. We just do live shows at local like sandwich spots. We're just like coming to your town. Hold on.

We go to straw me. It doesn't mean that we're only hitting those spots. Like we also go to like subway. Yeah. This is do it. Go all the spots. Do it. No.

Do it. No. I did a subway commercial. Oh my God. Give the people what they want. Right before I did the OC. Okay. It's something very special.

Great. It is fantastic. Please do it. Absolutely not. We can find the clip. I'm not doing it. It comes to my mind. It won't mean anything to anybody, but if we find the clip, we will share it.

Okay. But it happens all the time for me. I'm like, ooh, wait. You heard it. Yeah. Olivia, from Olivia's mouth. I remember, so I had a crush on this guy and I really liked him. And he saw that commercial.

and or he he met Rachel and then was like wait a minute is she the fucking girl from the subway commercial and I was like he was like I fucking love that commercial and I was like only you would get it but like it made me like a more you know what I mean because I was like oh he gets it like he's cool yeah yeah yeah do I know who it is yeah oh yeah okay yeah I feel like I definitely like

crush as I had growing up grew strong when someone was like, I also like that comedy movie. I was like, oh my God, she's even cooler than I thought. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. They get it. And like music and stuff. Oh, I have a great betrayal story, which is I dated someone in high school.

And we bonded over like a band or something. I saw this duo, this like pop duo called Chromeo. They're very fun. Oh, yeah. 80s and pop dancey. and I started chatting with this girl and we were hitting it off and then she like burned me a mixed CD

that had a bunch of chromio stuff on it and then like a year and at we dated for like two years like a year in she mentioned something about the CD and I was like I mean it's very cool that I'm very honored that I'm like the first guy you like gave that CD to it was very nice and she was like well oh you know Oh, there's this other guy.

I, you know, it's a good CD. And I was like, oh, heartbroken. Heartbroken. Yeah. You know what? We've all done it. Yeah. Including.

Including. What about recycling nudes? Oh, that's interesting. That's happened to me. I think that's okay. It's happened to you? Yes. How did you know?

Because he had a tattoo when I was with him and there was no tattoo in the picture. And I got so mad. I was like, really? You're setting. me a nude that you clearly took for someone else. First of all, I didn't ask for it. Yeah. Like, don't cold send me nudes anyways.

Yeah, you're like, I don't need this. And your tattoo wasn't, yeah, that's creepy. Oh. I always ask for today's newspaper, like being held up next to him to make sure it's, no. Poorly. Yeah. I need a timestamp, watermark that shit. Have you?

Have I ever been sent? Have you sent or recent? Not to my knowledge, but I've definitely recital. Oh. All the time. You're like it was a good picture. No, for sure. Like, you know?

Yeah. There's times like, I'm not getting out of bed. Right. So you're like, I got it. Yeah, it's a lot of effort. It's a lot of effort. Ask Leah, she can relate. Shit.

The resend, the old recycle. The old recycle. That's right. That's right. But how would you feel if it was like in my situation where I was like that you don't have the I haven't been caught. Like, it would be fucked up if they knew. Or vice versa.

I hope they don't listen. Well, I actually have also, like, admitted it would be like, just that, you know, this is a recycle. I like that. Yeah. It's like lazy bear. It's like a power move. Yeah, it's a power move. It's a flex.

It's like, you know, this was for someone else. But here you go. But you can have fun. Go ahead, play. But I'm not getting out of my grandma pajamas in my bed. Yeah. I'm not sending you a sexy picket and my granny and I can't. I'm not sending you my JC Penny's special.

But that's me to the core. I know. I know. I like it. Okay. That's so funny. All right. Bye.

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