Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - Tammin Sursok & Roxy Manning on Ovulating, Bad One Night Stands, and Slipping on Sperm

Episode Date: May 1, 2023

Tammin and Roxy, hosts of the Women On Top podcast, join Rachel and Olivia for a conversation ranging from parenting to slipping on sperm. They also discuss ovulating, weird kinks, bad hookups, and much more. Broad Ideas is supported by MVMT. Get up to 40% off at MVMT.com and use code IDEAS. Broad Ideas is supported by Quince. Right now, go to Quince.com/ideas to get free shipping and 365-day returns on your next order.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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with Rachel Bilsson and Olivia Allen and what once was the Wizard of Broad's Rob. Yeah, I got it. Oh, guys. Today we have the

beautiful ladies from the Women on Top podcast, Hammond Sersak and Roxy Manning. We have a very fun conversation with them. And you're a about to hear it, so stay tuned. You girls are here.

Girls, ladies, women, beautiful women are here with us. Thanks for joining us today. We are so thrilled. Yeah. I can't believe we got here in one piece. I said Gerotsie, she can't drive today. I know. She was like, I'm going to drive.

And I call it the Wii ride because when I drive, it's fun. Yeah, because you pee your pants. Like seriously, I'm like, we're literally in the car and I'm like, we're not getting any further. She just goes like around all the cars. And I'm like, we're in the same spot. Oh, my gosh. It's like that new. York a minute and me. I'm like, I've got to save that extra minute, you know? Right. Right. Now, do you live here?

So I live here. I live in L.A. I used to live in New York and moved here about 15 years ago or so. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. And then you're in Nashville. Is that public knowledge or no? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I was here. I was born in South Africa. I'm really confused about who I am. Born in South Africa, raised in Australia, lived in London for a year, but here for 16 years and then went to Nashville about a year ago. We actually just sold everything and went on the road. and just like, well, what was you're in COVID? We're like, we'll see where we end up. Really?

And I was in the bathtub. And I got an email that said, you know, one-way tickets for $89 to Nashville. I was like, it's a sign from God. And so I said to my husband, I'm like, we're going to Nashville. And he's like, okay. And then we just never left. Wow. And with like two young children, you just packed up.

Yeah, one was one at the time. I know. I can't believe we stayed married. Yeah. I'm thinking of that and I'm like, how. Don't worry. I'll reassess every three months. I'm always like, well, should we stay married? I'm sure many people feel that. Right. Sometimes it's even closer, you know. Had you been to Nashville before? Never. Had he? Never. Never. We were thinking Austin. We moved to Austin. Okay. And then my husband almost died of COVID. What? Yeah. What? Yeah. It was really bad. I remember

texting you going like, I don't, it's not good. Like, oh, shit. He was, like, in and out of a coma. It was like really horrible. Wait, wait, wait. There was this early on in the pandemic. This was 2020, yeah. It was 2020.

Yeah, yeah. Holy shit. How long was he in the hospital? He wasn't. They wouldn't take anyone because, firstly, the hospitals were overcrowded. Secondly, he didn't have breathing issues. He just, and he was quarantined upstairs. We were in an Airbnb.

He was quarantined upstairs. I had my kids downstairs. And it was, like, really scary around that time. He just didn't know. Terrifying. I didn't know what was going on. Yeah. Before vaccines or any of that.

And he got. so sick that his temperature was so high that he'd go in and out of consciousness, but I couldn't go and see him because I didn't know, like, I didn't want to get it. I didn't know what was going on. And I remember him texting me going like, it's not good. And I just didn't hear from him for like 12 hours. And I didn't know what to do. It was just, it was a horrible. We got into this real dark place, a real cool. Oh, yeah, we go there fast. Oh, my God. Yeah. No, that is. Oh, my goodness. Yeah. Yeah. It was terrifying times. Did he have any like pre, you know, medical?

No. No. In these 40s, he now has issues, though. He's got after tons of like information. It's probably long COVID too, right? Yeah. I call it a bad mood, but he calls it long COVID. I feel like he's constantly being like, it's COVID.

I'm like, no, you're just being an asshole. Did you guys end up getting it from him at that point? No. Wow. And that's why when you know when people were saying, like, masks don't work. I remember him feeling sick in the car in New Orleans. And he was like, I don't feel well. And I put masks on all of us, including the one-year-old.

And I was like, I'm just so scared, you know. And we had that entire four-hour trip home in the car with him with COVID. We didn't know it was COVID. And none of us got it. Wow. Yeah, people said vaccines didn't work either. And my son ended up in the hospital with COVID. He did, what was it, like seven days in ICU?

Yeah. And my husband and I had gotten vaccinated. And we were there with him. him the whole time, him sleeping on our faces and we didn't get it. Yeah. I had sex with my husband the night before. Oh, you slut. I was like, give you a little COVID journey. Dirty girl. So, like, I had sex with him. And then he was like, I feel hot. I'm like, yeah, you feel hot. Yeah, you. It's like, no, my temperature feels hot. I'm like, I know it does. And then we, yeah, and I didn't get it. Wow. You have sex to a she, though. Yeah. As she says, she's like,

because I'm kind of more of a germophobe. Like if my husband, I know, I'm like, don't touch me. We haven't even hugged each other in four years. I'm like 10 feet away, please. But if my husband's sick, like, I will not go within like 10, 20 feet of him. Like I'm like, right. No, no, no you. She goes, honey, his dick isn't sick.

I'm like, to me it is. I don't know. Afterwards, maybe. He's not juring. I've wondered, though. I've actually wondered. I'm like, because if my husband's sick and he's someone. wants to have sex. I'm like, but what about your semen? Like, are we sure that there's no germs in

there? I don't think there's a way that's going to be a hundred percent short. This is the question. Listen, when you have a dick doctor on, ask him if there are germs. I feel like you think it's dirty, but it's probably extremely clean. Well, I don't think it's dick's dirty. It's my husband's all right. Did not think you were talking about that today. But I feel like he's semen. Hi, honey, if you're listening, I love you. I know your semen is great. Right. But have you never wondered that? If you can like get sick from their semen. Well, they say bodily fluid.

That's what I'm saying. That's considered a bodily fluid. No, that's like diseases. That's like sexually transmitted diseases. But I don't think you can get a cold. I think your vagina might be able to get sick. But maybe not you're like, yes. Your vagina definitely can get sick. I mean, there have been some time. Yeah. Little case of the sneezes.

Like allergic reactions is more accurate. But like when you said like, Listen, if it wasn't COVID, I'd still have sex with my husband as long as he didn't breathe on me. You know what? It's so funny, though, that we're talking about this because I do think, like, different partners, like your vagina can react in different ways, right? Oh, yeah. When you were introduced. When you're introduced to new penis or new semen, your vagina can react. Yes.

Let me tell you. Oh, yeah. It's been so. I mean, infection, bacterial infection, whatever it may be, can definitely react to new experience. I'm looking vicariously for you because it's been 16 years. Right. 16 years of the same thing. You can get mad vagina. It can be mad. You're right. When you use new flavors in there. No, this isn't working for me. Yes. Yes. It's like, pheromones too. Right? It's like, no, my body doesn't want you. Yes. Beth. Do you think it's interesting too? Because I remember like I broke up with a guy when I was like 21. I met my husband at 22. Wow. And I know. I need some work experiences. And I remember I hate. I hate that. I remember. I hate. I I hated him so much. And I hated him. Like, I really hated him when we broke up.

And I remember he was walking out the door, but our sex was so good. And I was like, listen, I know we're breaking up just one more time. He had sex with me on the floor of my tiny little apartment in Beverly Hills. And it was so good, but I hated him so much. And I was like, I just feel like you're so connected in, like, it's just, you don't know who you're connected to sexually. Like, you might hate them as a person, but. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

You can't control that. Sometimes it's completely disconnected from everything else. But then is it worth staying? If the sex is really good, but you, like, kind of don't like them, is it worth saying? Are you explaining your relationship right? She's like, I need to know. Is his name rhyme with mavid? Could be.

I don't think you like your husband. Every time I see you around, I'm like, wow. Do you like your husband? I do love my husband. You do. How long have you been with him? So it'll be 18 years this year. It's a long time. So it's a long time. So I will say the pandemic, like being on top of each other, like having to work, you know, both at home. It was a lot for us. Like we had to go to therapy after that. Like I was like, I need, you know, like, we need to be able to be a little free and like be able to go out and like do, you know, different things. But it really forced us to kind of look at our relationship too and be like, what's what do we need to like work on? Like, what are the things? But do you have a preen up?

No, we don't. I don't either. And that's like why we probably say to know, it's not. But I'm like, oh, my God, this is so much more difficult now. But they do say. You don't have a pre-up, right? No, we don't. But they do say you're kind of fucked if you don't.

Like, no matter what you're worth is or what have you. Like, you should always have a pre-up, they say. Yeah, but California doesn't hold them up anyways. I know. Oh, you could fight them, even if you have a pre-up in California. Really? It's 10 years and it's a, what is it like a no fault state or something? Yeah, it doesn't matter what the person is.

Does it matter? You could fight it and if the judge thinks you deserve what you're fighting for, you can get it. Without even with a pre-up, I mean. Yep. The reason I didn't get it. Is that why Reese got divorced in Nashville? Oh, yes. She's like, honey, you want to move?

That's actually really smart. I mean, I don't know. I don't know what the rules or laws are. I think it is. But I didn't get a brain up because honestly, my husband, like, he's the kind of guy. I'd be like, I love you so much. I'll just live in my car. Like, he's just that kind of.

He would never, he's never, he's never, even when he wasn't working, he's never asked for money. He doesn't spend money. He doesn't, like, it would be, it would be like a whole character. Right. Like, reshift. Like, it would be, I would be shocked. Yeah.

If he, like, tried to take my money. Yeah. Not David. I know. He's like, oh, cute. I'm going to take that. You would know. You would take him for everything, Roxy.

But it's because I'm a vengeful bitch. That's why. You're just honest. Yeah, I'm just honest. Yeah. I get, like, I do have like, like, I feel like when I get mad, I get mad. You know, like, and then it's. Uh-huh.

No, you don't get mad with me. You get passive aggressive. Oh, you get passive aggressive. I'm not. I'm not. I do not. I do not get a passive. You get so.

You're having a fight on your podcast. Please. Wait, no, I love this. Wait, so wait, first tell me, how did you guys meet? How did you come together? Because obviously you're very close. Well, we're kind of broken up after this podcast. We do have a pre-n-up. How did we meet?

Well, we, our kids went to the same school. Yes. Like preschool? Yes. Yeah, elementary. And the minute we met each other, we finished each other sentences. Santa, which is fine. Peanut butter and jails.

Peanut butter and jails. And I was just like, I wanted to do a podcast, but I knew I didn't want to do it alone because if I did, I need to like kept accountable, you know? Like, you just have to know who you are. I have like, ADHD. This thing's going on. I've got a kid. I got a husband. I love. I love. I've got to look after. And I was like, I need someone who's going to like keep me accountable. And then I met Roxy. And it was just like, that was it. We just hit it. Free love. Yeah, it's free love. And we're like, I think the first episode we talked about, well, we definitely talked about, we definitely talked about maybe slipping in sperm or something. Like that? Slipping like sperm on the floor, like a banana peel. Oh, yes. I've almost had a... You've done that. Oh, yes.

I almost had a SRI, a sex-related injury. What? I didn't even know that was this thing. It is now. It is now. We're going to call it hashtag SRI because I love it. My ass thought I was being all cute. Like, actually, it was the morning of our photo shoot.

And my husband, like, came in. A whole thing. Oh, that's a photo shoot for the... For the cover of the, yes, yes. And he comes in, I'm like getting ready and I'm, of course, like late as always. So I'm like quickly rushing. And he's like ready to go. And I'm like, okay, let's get me kind of fun.

Like get, you know, get a little something in before. So I'm like, okay, let's do it. So we like did it like quick. I'm literally putting on my skincare like routine as we're doing it. Because it's like, if you can imagine, you know. Yeah. You can picture it. So then he finishes up.

And, you know, we have to clean up a little bit. So there's a towel. Well, I guess he dropped the towel on the way to the laundry room. So it laid it on the floor. But he just, like, picked it up. But whatever was on the towel fell on the hardwood floors. And yeah, me, because I'm late running into the kitchen trying to get my time. I literally slid you guys.

So in that sperm, like homace, like slagint domates. Oh, my God. And then she arrived. It's called the demons ride on your face. No. Totally. I was like to be made up. I'm like, what is that happening? I'm like, you know, it's an SRI. It's an SRI. That's incredible. Right? SRIs, I feel like they aren't talked about enough because I feel like there's probably, no, I wouldn't say slipping in the sperm.

Like, the sperm is probably not high up on the list. But also, your husband obviously has a lot to release. Yeah, this is true. I was like creating a puddle. Yeah. David. He never listens to any about that. He never doesn't listen. No, because he's like, you talked about me again, right? I'm like every episode. He takes stuff out. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Because they will like, like, what? Like what? He still kind of is like, oh my God, I can't believe you say it. Like, for example, I want a third kid. He doesn't. He doesn't want me to tell anyone. Oops.

All your listeners. But yeah, he doesn't want a third. And it's like, how do you figure that out, you know? And then if you can you entrap, like, is it, legal to steal to one's sperm to like trick him yeah if you're married uh-huh okay i've heard this before is it legal that a wife tricked her husband i forget what she did and got pregnant and they had a third kid did she go to jail and he didn't want another kid oh and now she is serving life in prison no i'm just kidding oh i was like i was like that'll be her so you want another i think so i don't know i'm working on it in therapy like like Do I want another or am I just bored? Right.

No, it's a great question. I go through that all the time. Right. You know, like you get it as an actor. Like, I've been acting since I was 14. Right. And so there were times where it was crazy, pretty little liars, like, you know, on that show for eight years.

Like, you know, then it stops. And then you've got two years off and then you're doing a movie and that's great. And then it stops. And I don't do very well in the stop part. Right. And I try to busy myself. I told this to my therapist. I try to busy myself with so many things.

do because I'm so afraid to be quiet. And I'm so afraid to like, like, who am I really? Do what do I really suffer from? What do I not like about myself? Do I really love myself? And so if I'm consistently busy with so much, then I feel like I don't have to listen to the quiet, you know? And I think it's child actors, and we'll talk about this on our podcast with you, Rachel,

but it's like our brains aren't fully developed yet. They're not developed until they're 25. and, you know, I was thrust in the limelight in Australia on a big show. Chris Hamsworth was on the show, like, Marker Robby was on, like, a show that was similar. And so it was, like, the biggest show in Australia. But I was, like, a kid. Like, I was 15 years old, and I'm so grateful for it. I'm sure you were, too.

But it kind of fucks you up a bit, you know? And, like, I don't fully know to the extent of how, like, I didn't really have a high school experience. So I'm constantly, like, comparing myself. Like, am I good? Because you just, you get so much success and indifferent to you, because I was in Australia. a smaller country, population-wise. But, you know, there's a lot of things that I have to, like, navigate now as an adult that sometimes I feel like when I'm feeling out of control, I revert back to, like, when that trauma happened, which is 15. And it's weird because, like,

when you listen to this, you'll go, like, oh, poor trauma. But, like, anything's traumatic if you don't know how to cope with it. Right. Right. So it's like some people obviously have different types of trauma, but, like, it's also traumatic to be successful when you're young and not really know how to handle it. How do you think. that plays out into your life now, like when you say it fucks you up? Like, how? So I asked my, I asked my therapist. She's like, no, you're just entitled. There was like a different. Oh, no. Thank God. I was like so scared. I was like, oh, my God, my narcissist. And my associate associates are like, no, you're just entitled. It's like, it's pretty obvious why. Like, when you're

really young, everything's yes. And everything gets done for you. Yeah, I didn't even know properly how to like take it a flight without like having an entourage like I didn't even know how to like cook I mean there's so many little life skills that I didn't know how to do because everyone was just doing it for me and then my parents were like very loving but they were like you know coddling me because I was their 15 year old going to London with you know who's the guy who owns a virgin oh Richard Branson for the weekend and doing dinners and I was like 16 years old like I didn't I didn't really know what I was doing so when I said it fucking. me up. Like I have, am I good enough? Am I worthy enough? Like, you know, I have a high sex drive. I want sex

more than my husband. When he rejects me because he's tired, I'm like, well, then you mustn't love me. There's all those things that I think are, could be, could be just because that's who I am. Or maybe it's because of the environment that I was placed in at a young age, you know, and it's taken me a long time to like, to unravel that. Right. But I do think, I do think that's super relatable. you know, especially that feeling like with the rejection and whatever. And I think that is across the board has nothing to do with whether you're working young or whatever. I think a lot of women people can relate to that because automatically you always take it personally. And with acting especially and all the rejection and all of that that comes with it, I think there's an extra element for sure because you're constantly like, it's not personal. But then like I've been in experiences where like it's not personal, but the person got cast was literally like my doppelganger. And you're like, how do you not take that? Personally, when he literally just cast me essentially. And how can you not hate your body when, like, is different now? Mm-hmm.

We're both older. But, you know, I had a severe eating disorder when I was on camera at 18. Wow. No one said anything. I was, like, 85 pounds, like 87 or whatever. I was, like, so thin. And not one person pulled me inside and said, like, are you okay? I was, like, throwing up between takes.

Like how did no one notice like the vomit? You know what I mean? Yeah. And then there's something called childhood emotional neglect. And it's when it's not my parents' fault. Like they didn't know what to do. But it's also the studio. Like why didn't they say anything?

Right. You know, why didn't anyone go like, why is she so thin? And so then you think, well, it's because thin or whatever that was is acceptable. So as you get older and you gain weight, you go, well, then am I not good enough? Acceptable and acceptable. And they're not seen. Am I invisible? There's like a lot of that.

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And it's something that women in particular, from the age that we can start turning the focus from our caregivers to ourselves, we start to do that to ourselves as women. And I think it's important that kids are taught those skills. That's what I was going to say, with our kids especially, because I know we have daughters. Do you have a daughter as well? Two sons. Two sons. But still, with sons. I mean, same thing. You know, it's just we have to be really conscious of that because their access at such a young age to seeing these images and like comparing themselves on social media is really fucking scary. I mean, I think when I was eight years old, my daughter's eight, the most I had to worry about was like, who was going to play with me on the playground. You know what I mean? Yeah. It

wasn't like, oh my God, now I have to look at this and see, you know, the comparison of this and this. And then with kids also growing up in these cities, I mean, they move a lot faster, right? They do. They do. I feel like Jennifer Garner just spoke about social media and her kid. Like they're not on it. No. And she's like a 17-year-old.

She's a 17-year-old. What? Yeah. How did she do that? No, her older one. The older one. Yeah. I think she said something like if you can show me, you know, factual articles, the supporting

why this is healthy, you know, mentally or whatever. I forget the exact wording and forgive me for getting it wrong. But like, if you can prove to me and show me these things, then you can get on it. Right. It's confusing, though, because, like, part of me is like, okay, well, and this is going to sound really harsh, but, like, adapt or die, right? Like, this is the direction the world's going. And we have to also teach our kids how to adapt to the reality of this.

I see it so, like, like, I get triggered by, like, yesterday we were in the car. You were on the phone, actually. And, like, my daughter's pretty innocent, pretty naive. you know, but whatever, she's eight. And for some reason, you know, Kobe Bryant came up and our 11-year-old, basically my goddaughter, she was like, well, he died in a helicopter crash. And I'm like, don't tell my daughter that. I don't want her to know.

Then helicopters can crash. I thought the same thing. I was like, no, I don't want that out there, you know, because you constantly want to protect. It's like, where's the line where, like, being honest and just being forthcoming with the world and what it's like or protecting them. It's all age-appropriate. Like, even the shooting that happened. Oh, God.

Next to my daughter's school. Did your kids know? They had to. They were locked down. Right. So my daughter's school was next to the shooting in Nashville. And we had all this information come through about what to tell your kids in age-appropriate terms. And for her, it was just like bad people do bad things, but you'll be safe if you just listen to, you know, your teachers, you'll be safe.

But I'm also just vomiting information that I don't know if I fully believe. I was going to say. And I bought them bulletproof backpacks. You bought them bulletproof backpack? Oh my God, yeah. And you know what's so crazy? They're sold out. I'm going to cry.

I have chills all of them. I'm going to cry. And you know what's also crazy is they were $350, which made me really mad because I said to my husband, I was like, should we spend the money? And he's like, you'll never forgive yourself if you don't. And I was like $600 later. And I feel so lucky and privileged that I've worked and been able to like, because of our industry, being able to pay $600. But so many people can't. And the fact that there's $350.

people can't afford them. And, you know, they're also sold out. Not only that, like, there was a kid that came off the bus with a bulletproof little, it's a thin little vest on. Oh, my God. Because if you can't trust the government to protect your children, then you can only trust yourself to protect your children. But how is it possible?

I don't understand how it's possible that you can't get into a concert. You know what I mean? Like, you can't get into a fucking concert with a gun. Yeah. Like, how is it even possible? that you can get into these schools. But it would help, but it, you know, unfortunately there's more guns.

I was part of like 10 gun rallies recently. And it's, I don't think guns will be taken away. And I think the conversation to say guns will be eradicated like Australia is never going to happen. And it's worthless even having that conversation. But it's worth having the conversations about small measures that absolutely reduce gun violence.

There's so many different laws and legislation that can be passed. But the fact that we're doing nothing because, you know, people are getting paid off is is is is killing out children and the fact that we're not doing something and coming together on both sides right now it's not like a party thing it's not like I'm Republican I'm Democrat screw you screw you at some point it's like our children are dying our fucking like like you need to do something to say that nothing can be done is like it it's is just you're it's horrific yeah like it makes me want to take my kids out of school I'm thinking about

going Australia to to well yeah because us right Australia news where was you know and you see all these things that people post like this happened in ex-country and they have nothing has happened since because they put these laws into place and I'm with you it's not about Republican Democrat and it's literally the Second Amendment we get it like you can have your gun to protect your house like but the the issue is these A.R 15s there was an article that came out that said an A.R 15 bullet what it's designed to do and like if it if it enters a child's body because the children have got so many the organs are so small it ricochets. And so there's actually, there's no even hope.

It's not even like, oh, you know, we can save that child. There's no hope. So we're talking about different military type weapons compared to like having a handgun to protect your house. Like we're just not even on the same like level here. Yeah, that's a problem with the guards too because those guys are girls. Yeah, because they're only armed with like a handgun or a revolver or what have you. There's no competition.

I mean, it's one. You need, like, Marines guarding the school. But then it's like Africa. I was born in South Africa. I've been to the Middle East. Then we're turning America into the Middle East and Africa. That's what it was going to turn into because it's going to have to be. What are our choices?

I'd rather that. Have my kids safe. Yeah, I agree. Like put guards. I'm all for it. What do you mean? Arm them. Bulletproof.

Well, it just seems like every day there's something else. There is. There was something else today in other shooting at like a weather. wedding in Alabama or something. Yesterday was Alabama, too, right? There's 20 kids. What? What?

It was four died and 28 were injured. Yesterday? Yeah, massive shooting. In Alabama at a teen party. I know. Oh, my God, my mouth is just. I know. I wouldn't even, like, I just get, yeah.

It's just so sad, too, because, and I hate to say this, obviously, like, every time I read something, it just shakes me to my core. But in some ways, too, when there's a new headline, it's kind of like, we see them so often now. It's like every day there's something that it almost, it's not that I'm desensitized to it, but it's like, you have to move on. Yeah, you have to move on. And it's not not, I mean, it's not shocking. It's not shocking anymore, which is awful, you know. So it's nauseating. Someone said to me, like, do you, are you shocked that it happened in Nashville? Like, all this Australian press cold is like, oh my God. And I'm like, you never think it's going to happen in your backyard,

but you don't, you kind of expect it as well. well, right? I think didn't, and Melissa Joan Hart like spoke out. She lives in Nashville. She was like driving and saw kids just coming out of the woods. And she stopped the car to like help usher them like to safety. America's got so much going for it as an Australian who's also an American citizen. I'm a jewel citizen. It's given me so much. It's given me my career and my family and I love it so much. But then there's just such backward ideology that's just like we're better than this. Like at the end of the day, it's just about keeping. out family safe and love, right?

So, like, and letting anyone do whatever the fuck they, like, I don't give the shit what you do. As long as you're not hurting people, like, my belief system has nothing to do with Roxy. Right, right. Or you or whatever, what I believe in. Like, I'm not going to bleed that all over you. Like, whatever you do, great, as long as you're not hurting me and my kids, you know. Like, that's it.

That's all. Yeah. Like, can we just ask for that? Just the kid. I know. Just the kids. I know. Oh, you guys.

And we're done. Anyway, so slipping on the semen. Back to sex. Back to dicks. Back to dix. Bigenia. Back to d'aigs. Oh, my God.

Yeah, it's so fucking heavy. So anyway, how much I contact do you guys like during sex? Icon sex. I'm trying to think of the last time I had sex with the lights on. Right. Really? Yeah, how do you feel about that? Yeah.

Lights on. I guess if it's like a daytime situation and like it is just like, you know, we kind of do it. But I feel like I'm not like somebody that like needs to like deeply gaze into the eyes of my husband. Like we can kind of like do it doggy style or we can do it side by side or we can don't like us. I just tell me you haven't thought about it before. You and David. This is really just my first time right now. I mean, come on. It's exciting. Just right the second. Wait, very excited. Can I admit something now? So like let's say. you're with someone new, you don't know each other that well, right? And the lights are on or it's daytime and you want to come off like, I'm cool girl, I don't give a fuck. Like lights on, you can see everything. But like inside you're kind of mortified. But like you're putting on this persona like, yeah, I'm fucking confident. I don't care. Like you can fuck me like in broad daylight. But inside you're

like, oh my God, is you seeing like that one hair I missed or like. But they're not. They're probably not. But, you know, and I definitely am guilty of that of like, pretend. Like, I don't care. But we've been with the same day. For 16 years. Right. 16 to 18 years. So you guys are like at this point.

I mean, they've watched babies come out of. Oh, yeah. My two babies cut out of my stomach and my intestines were like taken off on the table. Same zies. Are we all C-section? I'm not. Yeah. But you had a better recovery, I bet. Like it was quicker.

Oh, yeah. No. Yeah. Yeah. I think I tore a little, which was not fun to heal. But it was still. You know. Yeah, to 10 pound over 10 founders.

Yeah. My vagina would be a disaster. Holy shit. I would not be married because I would have him like that. Oh my God. That's insane. Both of them. How do you feel about a guy?

Because we had a friend and I was like, this is interesting. She broke up with this guy and I was like, what was it? And she was just such a weird answer. She was like, he would always just like put his underwear on after sex. And I'm like, what's wrong with that? Like right away? Yeah. She was like, like immediately put his underwear on.

She's like, that's just fucking weird. Maybe when it shranked, it looks really, like, looks really. Or he would get dressed. And I'm like, okay. But like, she broke up with him for it. And I was like, what is that? She broke up with him for? Yeah, she's like, I didn't like that.

She's like, I like a confident man. So now every time my husband walks away naked, I'm like, you're feeling confident. He's got stuff to do. I shower afterwards every time. I mean, do you? Because honestly, I have not had a yeast infection. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. For decade.

No, like a bidet toilet is God sent for after sex. Like, peeing is one thing. And it rinsed. Peeing is one thing, but like washing it is honestly, I'm telling you, I've not had a bladder infection or yeast infection ever. Yeah, because I always wash afterwards. I just know, I remember a naturopess said to me, always wash her, always wash after you have sex. My gyno said because I would, I was prone to yeast infections. And she was like after sex, always wash.

Always wash it. You matter what, whether it's in the shower or not. And drink a glass of water. I always pee immediately. I do. But I get a lot of black. And if it is where it's inside, push it out and rinse. But how do you do that having small children?

Because I know that we're like quick, meet me in there, give them their iPads for 10 minutes. Texting and like 90 other room. Yeah. And then we can't like shower after. and, you know, we have to come out. You can shower separately. Yeah, that's true. My kids are so oblivious.

I mean, we're like, we're taking a Zoom call on the bedroom when they're like, okay. And we also don't do a lot of TV and iPad, so when they get their iPad, we went to Dubai once, it was 17 hours, and we don't give them a lot of screen time. And honestly, we were 17 hours. They were like, this is amazing.

Watch TV for 17 hours. It was so great. I was like, oh my God, they haven't even, like, made a sound. It was the best. It was 17 hours. Like whatever you want, whatever cookies, whatever TV. And they're like, wow. Yeah, my daughter, like, fully, I'm like, you get your iPad on planes.

And I'm like very strict about that because you need them fully consume. Yes. Like whatever you want. It is like the built-in babysitter. For sure. And I'm anxious. Like, you get them for sex. You, yeah.

You do. They do. That's true. Like, go get your iPads. Well, have you guys had like the pitter pattern? Because like one time my husband and I, the pitter patter of the little feet coming down, like the bedroom hallway. I was like, fuck. And we were like literally just like finishing up.

And I had like, it was one of those like during the day. Like come meet me in the bedroom like text like five minute quickie. And so I had just like I had like these little pajama shorts on it. And I had like throw them to the side. So all of a sudden like my husband was standing up and we hear like I mean she's literally half a second away. He pulls my shorts. Just to like cover up.

And so he's like like a sausage like walking around. And she's like, what's going on, guys? And I'm like, and I'm under the blanket, you know, like up to here. I'm like, Mommy's taking a nap. It was just so mortifying. But that definitely taught us lesson because we don't have locks on our doors. Oh, what? What is also not smart?

What do you mean? You got to get a lock on your door now. I don't think we do either. I think we move like the side table in front of it. Which is so much more obvious. It's like a go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-go-and they're trying to open the door. I'm like, sorry. The side table will move.

Move in furniture. Yeah, redecorating. That's hilarious. That is hilarious. Do you guys have locks on your bedroom doors? Yeah. I do, but I don't think mine works. I think if you try to open it, it just open.

Oh, no. I have, I mean, we have to lock those little guys out. Yeah. They can't. No. Yeah. They're constantly. They're constantly.

I'm like, get chips. It's hard. I mean, yeah, finding the time for any of that is a challenge for sure. I mean, not that I... I mean, I'm not married, but... I think dating would be like... It's been so long. Like, I don't know if I would do well...

In the dating scene now? No. Well, you met your husband so young. I know. There's not even any dating apps then. Not really. Right. How'd you meet him?

He was so, like... I joke about it. Hashtag me too. But he was the first director of my first American film. And what's so crazy about that is I auditioned for the movie and he circled my name.

Like, you know, when you go into an audition, there's all the faces of the people who audition, and he wrote next to it, she's the one. And he meant, like, for the part. But it's, like, telling the universe and God or whatever, like, manifestation that, like, I was the one. And I didn't think anything of it when we had two weeks of rehearsals.

And I just remember, like, after the first week, I, like, looked around and were, like, some kind of, they were trying to get the cast to, like, old make friends. And so we're at, like, some, like, cave experience or whatever. And I look back and he's like staring at me. Like, he wants to, like, fall in love with me. Like, it was the craziest level. And I remember calling my friend.

I was like, huh. Like, maybe he likes me. And then, like, the next two days later, he knocks on the door. Like, again, so not. If we weren't married, this would not be a story to tell. Right. He's, like, knocked on the door. And he's like, I think I'm, like, falling for you.

Oh, shit. And I was like the day before shooting. And I was like, well, I was like 22. He was 34. I was like, you know, come inside. And then he tried to kiss. Literally. Yeah.

No, not that day. I have decorum, Ratsi. And then he tried to, like, kiss me. And, like, for an hour, I was just like, no, you can't. You can't. Don't, don't kiss me. And then he kissed me finally. And it was, like, electric shocks.

And that was it. I actually had a boyfriend at the time that I forgot about. I was 21. He kept getting sick. And then I was like, oh, I feel so bad. So I'd break up with him. And then I was like, okay, it was just a, but he would send me all these flowers, my boyfriend.

and I'd send them to my co-star into her room, and Sean, my husband would be like, why is Alicia getting all these flowers? I'm like, I don't know. Did he know you had a boyfriend at the time? No, but I was 21, you know, those things? Oh, you know. It's like what I am.

I mean, I get it, but yeah. He did when I go back to L.A. because he was in my bedroom, we'd fall in asleep, and the ex or the boyfriend at the time walked in. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. Yeah, yeah. He didn't walk into the bedroom, but he walked into the bedroom,

but he walked into the house because he had my house keys because he had my dog. It's a long story. We don't have time for this. And yeah, it kind of didn't go down. So good. Didn't Sean have to, like, hide in the closet or something? He might have him in the closet. He hid in the closet with my dog.

And my dog really didn't like him. And it was the only time in the history of, like, us dating that the dog didn't bark. And my husband was like looking at the dog going like, the dog was looking at him going, I could really fuck you up right now. Oh, my God. It's amazing. I could really screw you up. And they both raised, he was like naked holding my dog in the closet.

And the boyfriend was like, hey, how's it going? And I was like, good. And he's like, good. And he's like, who's backpack is that? And I'm like, mine. And he's like, okay, which makes me realize that men will believe anything. And then he left and I broke up with him and it was fine. But it was like a long time he was there, right?

He was there for like a good hour. Yeah. What? Yeah. Yeah. And he was stuck in the closet. With your dog naked? Yes.

I love that story. Oh, my God. It's how we meant. Yeah. I love that. He comes out with like scratch marks all over his body. Oh my God. But then I left the boyfriend and then, you know, we were together forever.

Yeah. So it was worth it. It was worth the closet experience. Also speaks to, you know, because technically you were in a relationship and then you started another one where they're like, oh, once a cheater, always a cheater, but that's not, that's not, I don't think that's true. Are you asking me? She's asking you if you did not your husband.

I'm like, right? I do think there's something to be said for back burner. Like I am like that, like where I have to have like somebody. I definitely jump from. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Totally.

Are you pointing? Yeah. That's not true. Back burner? I've never had an affair. Like, I've never cheated on someone I was with and in a relationship with, but I've definitely jumped shit. Yeah. But wait, you cheated on the boyfriend.

Right. But I was jumping shit. You know what I mean? Like I've never been like, oh, I'm with my husband. We're in a good relationship. Oh, there's a guy up the street. Like, you know, I have, like, I'm a fair. No.

Right. But if my husband and I were like leaving each other. There was a good reason. And there was a good reason. Good reason. Because it was like, oh, that's my next relationship. Yeah. Like I...

We call it an overlap. Yeah. Like I'd say that last week where the last one is ending and the new one is beginning is a spare game. Yeah. When you're done with one. Yeah. You're done with one but still in it.

Yeah. And the other, another thing goes in it. You're like, fine. But I actually think it's pretty amazing for us. We've been 16 and 18 years and we have not cheated. I know. I mean, I don't know if you have, but I haven't. But then I'm like, if you don't count last night.

But then I think out jobs, right? Like, I kind of make out with guys all the time on set. So you get that out of your system, so to speak. Well, like, you know, we just, right? Have you ever, like, well, this is whatever. But, like, going into these things, you have to play romantic, right, you know, opposite, whatever. Do you ever like catch feelings, but like you know it's just for that? And can you talk about with your husband if so?

Ooh, good question. And he knows it. It was about two in 16 years where I was like, I need to not be that person's friend. Right. Okay. And you make that choice. Yeah. I made the choice of my relationship and my kids and all that.

But it was like it's very abnormal to be with an opposite sex, to be making out with them on camera, to them to be touching you. and you have chemistry with certain people. And you don't with others. Sometimes it's like, oh, my God, this is so gross. I can't believe I'm doing this. Other times you're like, huh. And everybody's like, this is interesting. And you're lying if you're an actor and say that that doesn't happen sometimes.

Some people go, no, it's just like a job. I'm like, it is a job. It's so technical. So many people in the room. I was like literally what I hear every time. And I agree with most of it. But there's a couple times where I know. know that all actors have been like, okay, careful, don't go there.

Sure. You know? Right. For sure. Because, and I also knew that they would have. Right. So that's also hard because then you're like, okay, well, I can't go down that road. You're like, I could blow up my life right.

Yeah. Do you ever worry, like your husband's director, so he does movies, do you ever have that concern about other actresses with him? I mean, he had to see girls' boobs doing a, like a process. prostitutes, like a, like a, like a sex, what do you call them? Like a sex work. Like a strip, strip club. Oh, my God.

It's been so long. I'm been to one and so, like, you know what thing? I'm like an old woman now. The thing where people like are on the pole. That thing. I don't know. But she had to take her clothes off and she's like lovely breasts, you know. And like, I've had two kids.

So mine are like a little lower than I'd like them to be. And I was like, but that's my own insecurity, I think. Right. Right. But look, I. I trust him. And that's, at the end of the day, you never know. But there has to be a level of trust.

Yes, right. And he wouldn't cheat on me because he would be afraid of me. Probably. And having to deal with that whole thing. Like, not that I would go crazy or whatever, but it's just too much drama. It's just too much drama. Yeah, yeah. You know, it's too much drama.

And we're in love enough and connected enough for us to know that this sounds weird. but like I know he's in love with me now. And I feel like I would start to sense if he wasn't. Right? Yeah. I feel like you would. Instinct. Yeah.

I think people can if they want to. But I think a lot of people choose not to look at it. You mean to turn a blind eye? Yeah. Yeah. Well, you know, so you met him really young. Like we have someone we know that got married, met her significant other very young. And it got to the point later on, like after years and years and, you know,

years where they were like, I think I need to experience other things. Yeah. You know? And I wonder, because at that young age, like how much of that comes into play? Like, or you're discontent because you do have this connection and you do, you know, like I just feel like that's a thing. Like, is it personal to each person? Like, it's an individual thing? Or do you think that's kind of like a general thing that you might go through? And you've been in a relationship for 18 years. So it applies to whether age, you know, you were 21 or however old, you know, how much of that comes to play in these long-term relationships. Yep.

I mean, I know for me, like, I personally could not have gotten married young. Like, I needed that time to... Slat! To hook her around. Slat, look, and have my fun. But I think, like, mentally, I wasn't even in that place yet. I mean, I knew that I always wanted to, like, have a partner and, like, kind of have that. So I knew that that was somewhere in the cards.

But I think for me, like, especially that time sort of right after college, And like, I wanted to, like, live in different places. Like, I lived in New York and lived in L.A. And, like, kind of moved around. And so I needed that time for myself. And to, like, you know, date other men. Even though I was kind of that serial monogamous, like, jumping from one relationship to another, it still gave me, like, a little bit of flavor, like, a little variety.

You know? So, good an algorithm system. Yeah. I had to, for sure, for sure. Yeah. Yeah. You know, it's just this weird. You know, sex and monogynum.

I don't think we're meant to be monogamous. Right. I think we make a choice to be. And like when you're with someone for such a long period of time, 16 and 18 years, I feel like you, it's a lot. People lie if they think that they don't go, ooh, like what would this be like and what would that be like? I think we are sexual beings. And I think we want to try new things. It's like, why would you just want chocolate ice cream?

It's great, but there's also caramel. Right. And I also think that women get more, I've always had a high sex drive. I'm not like a nymphomaniac, but I- Not diagnosed. Not diagnosed. But I would say, like, I would like sex three times a week. That's good. My husband likes it probably once a week.

So we're, like, trying to meet somewhere in the middle. But women definitely want sex more as they get into their 40s. I'm not there yet, but I will be. And, you know, men slow down. So it's like that's why women who get older go for you. It's a definite fact. It's a definite fact. It's their testosterone.

If they replace their testosterone goes down. And women, there's many things. Like, women also don't, they feel more comfortable with their bodies. They know themselves more. They don't know how to have better orgasms. But they're known for, like, having, wanting to have more sex as you get older for women. Interesting. So that's why a lot of women go young girl.

Right. Right, right, right. In relationships. A little stallion to keep up. Yeah. But men, men, I do think that if they're, like, I know at least even for my husband, if he's lifting weights. Testoster. Absolutely.

Because it builds that twist. Yeah. Yeah. Like it makes a physical difference in his sex drive. Absolutely. So I'm like, put the weight down. I got to go to sleep. But as you get older, the estrogen level and then like you dry up and like there's all

these things. Peri monikaze. Yeah. Later. Right. But that is something too. So then what? I'm such a hormone.

I'm such a hormone junkie. Like we had a hormone, um, Alicia Viti from her flow code. And I live my life according to my cycle, like my entire life. Like if you guys ask me next week. week to come, I wouldn't because I'm on my period. And I would have been a terrible guess. And I know that. I would not have booked the podcast next week. And Rossi's like, Tamen. Okay, so Brad Pitt's coming on our show. And you have your period. I'm like, no. I'm like, you are still recording. I'm like, no. It's going to be terrible.

Because we, so we have four different phases. We have the menstruation phase. We have the follicular, the luteal and the ovulation and the luteal. and different people in all different phases, like right after your period, you want to try new things and you want to do new things. And it's great to like organize and figure out like for our podcast. Like, what guests we're going to have on? We're open to new ideas.

Ovulation is when you are your most attractive because you attract the opposite sex. And you're also the most like wanting to go out and meet people that. So we try to book our podcast around our ovulation. You love it. Little. Because that's what you're ovulating right now? Are you ovulating?

But I think it's just finished. Because I think I have to do. She is. I'm about to get my period. Yeah. And right before your period, you're actually more like wanting to nest. Oh, God. Yes.

Like, um, right. And organize and figure out strat. It's really good to strategize, like the podcast of like, okay, what can we do now? Your brain is completely different throughout like all. And also you mother differently. Oh, wow. Yeah, like you don't, you shouldn't go out to all the parties just before you get your period. You'll absolutely hate it.

Like, you go and you hate that no matter what. Because I'm in. But that's so interesting. I've never, I guess I didn't know any of this, really. But like, it makes total sense. You know, I'm a fucking nightmare. Right before? Oh.

But I feel like I'm right before my period. You're like confirmed. When she was weird today and I was like, are you getting your period? And she was like, no. And then she was, I'm like, are you ovulating right now? And she was like, I am. I'm like, okay. Because we are that in tuned where we'll start to read each other and be like,

Where are you in your shit? Yeah. And what happens right before you ovulate too, like you might be the day before, is that your estrogen like spikes really quickly. And when you're estrogen dominant, you can actually be like super moody and aggressive and upset and teary. That's her today. Yeah.

Yeah. But that happens right the day before you ovulate. That seat. That's what I said. I was like, are you obviously right now? Yeah, I was a fucking nightmare. Well, she usually is never to me. me. Yeah. Like it's, we have this. I was edgy. She was edgy and she's never edgy with me though.

She can get edgy. I was angry for sure. But you know what it is? Normally we have Rob, our producer, and we can take it out on him. Oh, and we just take it out on Rob. Yeah. And he wasn't there. I was like, dude. Rob or Leah? Yeah. Our other best friend. We do. It's true. What do you and I just take it out on each other? I know. She doesn't take it out of me. She just like, she just writes okay with no like emoji. And then she has like a fit. She's like, there's no emoji at the end. Like, what is going on? I'll be like,

I have to be 15 minutes late. She went, okay, okay. I'll be like, she's pissed. Spelled out. But how about the K? If you ever get the K, you know hot water. You know that too. That's the short one. KK. Can't stand it. Yep. Yeah. Oh, just the K. Or you're dating someone and it's just

well, not you guys are married. But like K, you're like, oh, what did I do? How do you feel about N. No problem? Yeah. I'm not a fan. of the acronym texting. Yeah. Yeah. Usually I just don't know what they stand for.

BRB. Yeah, like my grandma. Oh, yes, I know what I hate. Oh, which one do you hate? Yep. Yep. Oh, you do? Oh, I'm a lover.

I'm a person. I find it. Yep. Like, ask me a question. Are you wearing underwear today? No, ask me a question like I could be pissed off about, but it's not like, like, like, like, um. Are you going to be late?

Are you going to be fucking late? Well, no, I'd be like, shut up, bitch. But like, I always feel like yupp is a double meaning. You're saying like, yep. It's condescending. Yes. There's a condescending. She's like, I can't all the time.

I'm like, it's ever texted. Yeah. Well, if someone's like, do you want an ice cream Sunday? Yeah, like, yep. You'd be like, yep. Yep. Do that sign. Right.

Yeah, you put the exclamation point on. Then you're satisfied. But like if I said, you're picking up the kids to my husband. He's like, yep. Oh, yeah. That would be like, no, no, I'm with you on that. Like, you're like, well, you have to. Shut up.

Yeah. Love of my life. But my, so my grandma will text LOL, but she beats it means lots of love. Oh, that's cute. Oh. That's sweet. She's like, sorry you're suffering. L.O.L.

Yeah. And we're like, huh. Exactly. I'm like, oh, she's this. That's what she thinks of me. Yeah. My husband is the rudest texter of all. Does he say fuck you?

No, no. He would never say anything, like, mean as far as, like, durable abuse. It's very short. It's very short. So it's never, like, even if it's like, would you mind picking something up? And even if he doesn't mind, it'd be like, okay. I can't. And you're just like, oh, I pissed him off.

And he's like, no, I just said, okay. Guys just don't think the same way. They don't. They really don't. Oh, my God. They don't. They don't. What?

I can't, you guys, I can't even deal with this. Oh, no. It's such a fucking thing. Oh, no. It's such a... Lay it on. Lay it. This is the heading of the podcast.

I have chills all over my body. I can't deal with it. What? My husband went into the bathroom last night. Oh, no. Okay, he's handsome. He's a very handsome man. It's like, no.

He's got like beautiful gray, like silver fox, silver beard. This motherfucker went in, he died. He died. He died. What? What? No, I'm not. Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

I'm not okay. What? It's probably really black. Yeah. Right? Wait, you have a picture? Yeah. You need to show me, right?

Yeah. First show before, though. You can't. It washes out, right? Yes. He looks, I said, I said, I said, babe, you look like you're trying to leave the country. Let me see. You look like you did something really wrong.

It watched out, right? I don't understand. I don't understand. I don't understand. Jeff, like, going into the bathroom, not telling you. I don't know. And like, I knew he had bought it. Yeah.

I would think. Like, you dye my hair for me. I knew he had bought it. And I kept him like, baby, please don't. Please don't. Please don't. And he wasn't like making any plans. And it was dark brown.

And I said, if you do dark brown, that's a big change from gray. It's going to be black. And he's like, so he went and exchanged it and got medium brown. Let's see. I'm trying to find a picture of him regular first so that you can get the. And is he. Brown all over? How about on your Instagram?

You probably have a picture. Oh, yeah, Instagram. This, he looks like. So the poor guy's dying. Oh, my gosh. I don't feel good about myself. I want to dye my hair. And then you see him and you're like, what the fuck have you done?

Well, he turned 50. Can I tell you something really mean that someone said? My husband just got 50 and I feel like it's a, yeah. It's a thing. He grew his hair. Someone wrote on it was really fuzzy because he has really curly. It was like this afro and I was like, mm. And he was like a year.

Like he had hair like. this for like a year. You remember? Yeah. Do you remember? Yes. And you put it in like it. It was long.

Okay. Okay. She's showing the Jeff before. Really? I just. I don't. Okay. I don't know.

You know, like I. Handsome. I feel like. Yeah. Do you think. Okay. Is it like midlife crisis? Okay.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Oh boy. I went blonde. I like black hair. It looks nice. Are you natural?

Are you natural? Are you naturally dark or like, I'm your color? You are? Yeah. And then I did this movie and they like, you have to go blonde. And I was like, fuck the movie. I'm not doing it because you know, like going from dark to brown to blonde. Yes.

You feel like your whole hair's ruined. I mean, it's a change. Okay. It's a change. Oh. But like, but why. I love to what he looked like before. The gray is so nice.

Oh my God. I mean, I'm kind of scared. He looks like a different like looking at this picture right now. That's. I can't believe you didn't tell this the first time you saw me this morning. The hair is okay. The beard needs to go now. Yeah.

We need to start over. The hair is nice. It's fine. But the beard looks like a bad Photoshop job. Yeah. Yeah. It's too all one color. Like, it's all just one.

But the hair is nice. The hair is fine. It's fine. It's fine. Look at the beard, though. It looks like if it's the beard. Yeah. It's dirt.

Like he's working in a whole mind. That's what David said. It looks like I'm working in a palm mic. You're not using my whole mind. Just the beard. The hair I don't have a problem with. You can still see some of the gray with the light. Yeah, the hair's fine.

The hair will wash out. The beard needs to go. The beard is like, yeah. He was working in a cold mind. Someone wrote. It's a little dirty. Pictures. I had a picture of him and my son.

And some mean trolley person put, but the dad's so old. Oh my God. And then they put, he looks like a grandpa. And then I think he felt like, you know, he goes in long jeopardy and like, he can't. He can't read the comments. Don't read the comments. You need to teach Jeff, what I teach you? You cannot.

Never read the comments. Never read the comments. Ever. Although sometimes I Google myself because if they've lied in a press like the other day, I had this article that said, Tamun Sursok regrets being on home and away, which was like my OC in Australia. The show was going to home away. I've heard of that.

Yeah. Like everyone was Australia. I just been on it. And I never said that. I said, I wonder if I was too young because, like, I've, I didn't have a lot of ways to, like, navigate it is what I said. I questioned it, right? And I got so much hate from people.

Like, you, do you, like, that's your origin. That's where you started. Like, how dare you talk about people? Like, the show like that. And I was, so I called the editor. I was like, yeah, I DM them. And I got the number. And I was like, yeah.

That's a lie. Did they retract it? They said Taman talks regrets about, like, so she doesn't, so they don't say she regretted. They said she talks regrets. So that's all they changed. Yeah. That's so shit. Wait, wait.

I want Roxy, don't say who the person is. Okay, okay, okay. We had a very big celebrity on our show. Oh, yeah. This is really weird. She called and killed all out of us. Yeah, her PR did. What do you mean?

Wait, what do you mean? So somebody... The episode was still there, came out, everything. Everything. And whatever she talked about on that, we even gave her, we even sent the episode. Which we never do. Never, you're not. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

She's very, which we never do. But she's very, like, high maintenance. So we sent her team the episode and said, if there's an issue, let us know about anything you've said. We were very kind like that. Yeah. And they said, no, it's fine. We released the episode.

Press picked it up. Started to go viral. leak before. Somebody got it the day before. Yeah, someone got it the day before. We didn't leak it to them. Did not.

No. And they killed all the... Yeah. They called around to all the press. To remove... Can you even do that? They couldn't remove... Like, access Hollywood.

All these things like dead. Like the first few stories that came out, like, was already there. She's like, who is it? Yeah, yeah, exactly. You're telling us. We'll tell you. Yeah. We'll tell you for sure.

It came out. So those stories were already there, but like, anything... Because usually like those things spiral, right? Oh, no, sure. Oh, yes. And then it's like viral. Right. You know this.

And we had an episode the week before that had like 42 press hits. Yeah, because it. Which wasn't even that huge of what we talked about. But this one had more. Yeah, more. And then so the team went and called, you know, around and said, don't print anything more. You basically. Yeah.

Oh, wow. Wow. Talking about press. Yeah. Yeah. Well, there's a few things I wish. I know. Rachel's like,

I wish my team when I got that every time I open my mouth. But the craziest thing was they had heard the whole episode in full the day before and we're fine with it. But you know,

because the media will take something out of context and it totally spins it and it comes out a certain way and like, I mean, I get that aspect of it, but to have everything, it's just like an egotistical

probably, you know. Trying to control the narrative like 100% And it's like, that's not possible really in the world, you know? And we'll talk more about that on our show. Because I have so many questions about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We will go there.

We have no subjects left. I'm like, and we're done. And we're done. So should we do some of these? Yeah, it's fun. We like to do fun questions. We do too. I feel like it's the same.

Do you guys want two other people on your podcast? Yeah. I think we need to join forces. Right? You should just have a four-upon. Yeah. That's a worse. Um, okay.

Our listeners all together. Okay. What's your weirdest role play fantasy? Oh. They're not normal questions, ladies. No. We talked about this on the first episode. I love your first episode that you just went there.

This is great. You know, you know, you know, you know mine. Oh, you have to tell it, Taman. No. Please. No. I'm going to tell it. No.

Yes. Yes. Because you're going to make it worse than it. No, it's... So I... Oh, my God. You have to tell it. Okay.

How do I make it sound like I'm annoyed? You can't. It is what it is. So I don't want to have sex with someone like this because I'm with my husband. But I'm really turned on by desperation. And people who can't have sex or like they can't have it because they just can't get laid, right? The guy who has sex with like the blow up doll or the guy who like has sex with his car or like tree. Yeah, yeah.

They're looking at you're so weird. So, like, the idea of someone like, oh, my God, I think I'm done. No. To tell this. This can't be in the press. Do you want me to tell it? Screw you. Do you want me to tell it?

No. So it's like the desperation of like, you know, the sweaty, you know, pizza guy who just can't get laid. And his dick is this big. You remember you said that? I don't. Do I say small penis? Yes, you did. And he's got like a small penis because no one wants to have sex with.

him and he's like so desperate right yeah and he's like you feel spad i can't do it and so like he comes and people i hope people understand and so he's like sitting and he's like really sad he's like pizza he's like he's like eating his pizza and he kind of just like you know pleasures himself yeah i get turned on by the idea of someone being so desperate that they just have to get off totally that to me is a turn on i don't want that in my life like i'm not like i'm like honey There's the pizza guy. Like he's like got all the slam down. No, I'm not asking for that.

But like in my mind, if I think about someone who's so desperate, like the trucker, right? Yeah. And he's like, oh my gosh, I really need to have sex. So like I can't because like no one will have sex with me. That to me turns out. It's the underdog because I was the underdog. That makes sense. I was I was bullied.

I was the underdog. I was two-fifty pounds. I was like, yeah. You know what this brings up for me? And this is going to be controversial. Okay. Okay. Did you guys ever watch Revenge of the Nirts?

Yes. Yeah. You wanted to fuck the nerds. When Rick Moranis is dressed in, is he, oh yeah, that was totally. And he winds up having sex with the hot girl because she thinks it's someone else. Now it's controversial because people are like, that's rape. She didn't know who she was having sex with.

I'm like, sure, absolutely. But at the time, you're like, the nerd. Yeah. That plays into your fantasy. Like, I never think about, if I was going to watch it, if I was going to watch it, If I ever, if I ever think of something or want to watch something, whatever, I'm never ever thinking of the hot guy.

Right. Having sex. It bores the shit out of me. I'm just like, the hot guy is like, oh, I'm going to get off. It's like, mhm, me. Oh, my God. I'm like the exact opposite. I know.

I want to be in a Brad Pitt Keanu Reeves sandwich. That's my fantasy. There it is right there. Keanu, really? 100. Kiano is like up there for you? Oh, my God. Interesting.

Has always been. Will always be. So in point break, you would have gone Keanu over Patrick Swayze. Yes. Kiano all day long. All day long. I think I was Keanu like speed. I feel like I could be on there.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But like Patrick Swayze Dirty Dancing was the first love of my life. Yeah. I'm so good to go in there. Yeah. You know, okay. Oh, that's good. If you had to pick another famous couple to swing with, who would you pick?

Oh. Who? Let's go with a swing with. Who would we swing with? Who would you swing with? So this is what I was. I can't wait to hear of yours after that last story. I always like to keep in mind it should be fair for your husband, too.

Because she, her and her husband have theirs. We have a list. What's yours? Like, we would swing with, like, Kristen Bell and Doc Shepard because, like, I find him attractive and he finds her attractive. So that'd be, like, a fair treat. And do you find her attractive? I do? Oh.

Yeah. But would you, would that be part of the switch? We're not going to. Okay. Like, we're not swingers. No, in your head though. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's like just to let you know.

We're not swingers. No, no, no. It would just be man and woman switch. Okay, okay. But then we also like, this one's so random. Okay. He has a crush on Gwen Stefani. And I'm like, you know what?

Blake Sheld is kind of attractive. I'd do it. Yeah. So we would swing with them. Sure. Why not? Why not? It's so boring.

My husband's attracted to say anyone that looks like me. That's so boring. And like when we have sex, he looks at me. I'm like, do you want to watch anything? He's like, no, why? Like, I could just look at this. And I'm like, honestly. So I don't even know.

I mean, I don't know if you think we have. I mean, he loves Angelina Jolie who doesn't. So, but yeah. And Brad Pitt. I mean, there it is. Absolutely. For both of you. I'd probably be way more into her.

You would be way more. Yeah, yeah. Because she's like not 100% straight, not even 90% straight. No, I'd say 80. 80. I'd give you 80. That's a pretty high percentage. I'd give you 80.

She has like a dominant, like a graphic like five. Yeah. I feel like I get it. Yeah. Did you say she doesn't? No. Oh, my gosh. I thought even me.

I was like, what you just said? She's super dominant aggressive. She's the ovulating bitch. It's like, we're all just like, huh? I was like, yeah, wait, what do you mean? Is he had some course? Like, she's kind of dominant, aggressive. She's sort of universal.

We were all like, huh. The Dominant you were fine with, by the way. I'm fine with that. You're like, but aggressive, I feel like there's another word we could use. I'm like, what? I saw her face. Oh, my God, I'm dying. You're like, she's honestly ovulating.

You knew what? Oh my gosh. I was like, I'm done. You're like, and we're done here. Fuck the next podcast. She's aggressive. I was like, me? I'm a nice person. That was amazing.

That was amazing. I couldn't love to. I wish I was going to have seen her. I wish my face was like, so concrete. I'm crying. I'm literally crying. I'm slightly buying into it too. I was like, well, sometimes.

You paused for a second. You were like, I think it can't be kind of. I was like, for what days these months? I'm probably. Oh, my God. What about flying Bosling and Eva Mendez? That'd be a good thing. Oh, yeah, I would do that.

I would do that because that's like fair. I know my husband has said that she's very, very attractive. For sure. She said that's a good one. I feel like I'd do that one. Me too. I would do it.

I would do it too, girl. Yeah. I have something to tell you off the camera, but. Oh. Wait. Who? I've got really something to tell you off camera. Wait,

is it two, is it a girl of a guy? No, about them. Okay. We will definitely. There was a point in time in my life where I was convinced he was my husband.

Okay. Yeah. That's not a bad, like, thought to have. That note. Yeah. Okay. I want to finish this because I want to get to that. Yeah. So we got to go.

Yeah. We got to go. We're doing Venice. If you could only watch one movie for the rest of your life, what would you pick? The fact was. I mean, I know what I. Dirty dancing all day long. Dirty dancing all day long. The first sex in the city movie? The movie? Well, I've watched a TV show.

It has to be a movie. No, it has to be a movie. I know, but that's a happy to choose that because I love them so much. I get it. Oh, wow. Okay. But this is a few. I love Ferris Bueller's day off.

I love that. I watched that so many times as a kid. You're so aggressive. She's so aggressive. She's like, we're all in her. You're going to laugh about that all day. You're not going to be in a bad news. She'll be like just remembering this.

That's amazing. Okay, if you had a dick for a day, what would you do with it? Oh, my God, I have such a penis envy. Right. Oh, my God. I just swing it around. I'd do everything. I'd like hit it on the sit.

I would just have it out. I'd be like, That whole day. Oh, yeah. I did a TikTok like that. It would have to be BDE, though. Like, I want like a big one. You want a big, no, you get a small one.

You get a small one. You're like, I want to be Pete Davidson for a day, which apparently he came out and said, like, he doesn't have one. It's big enough. Yeah. Not big enough where it would hurt or something, right? Yeah, that's good. I was once with someone hurt and I left. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Yeah. I was like, what am I going to do with that? Yeah. Yeah. I feel so bad for him, too. I was like, great, but not great. That's an episode of sex in the city where the guy's too big.

Yes. It happens. It happens. Yeah. Small member. Richard does a small dick. Yeah. No.

No. James. Richard. Richard. Richard. Yes. Oh, yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. So you would just walk out. Okay. Yeah. Okay. You want to go on? If you could remove your, what?

What? If you could rename yourself? I don't have my glasses. If you could rename yourself, would you and what would it be if so? Well, the spelling of my name is TAMYN, but I changed it to TAMIN because as a kid, no one could pronounce my name. They're like, Tamian. I was like, welcome to the show, Tamian. And I was like, screw you.

When I was younger, if you believe in manifestation, I would write out Tam and Vincent Valindine. Oh. So, TVV. I'm so embarrassed. But I think I like my name. You know, I've got a great name too. Yeah, that's a thing. I feel like it would be hard for me to change my name.

Yeah, you're such a Roxy. Right? It's kind of. You guys both have really great. Yeah. Oh. My friend changed your name to Bowie. Oh, from what?

What was it before? Joanna. Okay. I get that. Maybe she just really like David Bowie. Yeah. I mean, Bowie's so cute. It was weird because it was like halfway in our relationship.

And I was like, oh, you have a different name. Hmm. Like, it's like you being like, I'm going to be called Jasmine. I was like, cool. Okay. I will say, though, I will say growing up, though, I really wanted like a more like kind of like typical name. Like, I really wanted the. name Jennifer when I was going up. I'm like, can't my name just be Jennifer? Like, I want to be a

Jennifer, you know? Yeah. Do you think you would have been a different person if your name was Jennifer? Probably. I don't think you would have been a Roxy. No, no. Like, I think you, like, it feels like you became your name. Yes. Yeah. It's true. Because it started like kind of in high school. Like people were like, oh, Foxy Roxy. You know, like, yeah, times and everything. I'm like. Taman, salmon, salmon. That's how I became so aggressive. She loves us. And Dominance. Women upstream.

Salmon, salmon. Fat, per. Yeah. That's okay. Who do you think is the funniest person alive or dead? In this room. I know who I, because I've interviewed him before, is Robin Williams. Oh.

Right. Oh, you thought. Yes. Yes. I literally, it was like, because I read carpet host. So I can't remember which movie it was that he did. It was probably like 10 years ago or something. literally all I just hand him the mic because it's like a one man show right and he was just going

on and on I mean his mind was like firing off I don't know how he was such a special person yeah to have that and he was just so kind and just such bright energy that I think he would probably he's the one legend yes legend I mean you can't talk with that no no no no I agree yeah she's like I'll share your answer yeah Share your answer. Can you need that? Okay. Well, I don't know if they're going to have any because they got married so long ago.

Well, but so. Do you have any horrible one-night stand stories? Oh, man. What do I start? A lot of walks of shame. Where do I start? When I happened? Yeah.

I ended up having sex with this guy that wanted to have sex with me for so many years, like, as a pity fuck. Oh. Oh, so your fantasy. Yeah. I'm literally real life. And I just remember not wanting to have, you know what people say, like, we'll talk about this on the show, but like the hashtag me, Me Too movement. And I'm like, well, I never really had anything overtly happened to me.

But a lot of things that I felt I had to do to get a guy to leave me alone. I don't know if you ever felt like that. Yeah, you left him to leave you alone. Well, he wasn't. It was just like. You don't know my pussy's like, clamps up and like hurts on it. He was like, I'm done. You're like, I feel like that would not be the answer.

Wasn't to leave me alone, but it was like, he wanted it so bad. Yeah. Like, you know, I was just like, I felt bad. It was four years he tried. Throw him a bone. Yeah. He threw him a bone. And I, yeah.

And I was so horrible. It was like so gross. Like I just wished that I just had. Yeah. It was bad too. Oh. Do you know what I mean? So I just wish I hadn't.

Yeah, that's a bad one night soon. That's a bad one night's stand. And I remember another one that this guy's pretty well known in L.A. And I slept with him. Just as L.A. He's like kind of known in L.A. I'll talk about. Okay, great.

Like, he's not like internationally famous. He's very like L.A. famous. Yeah. And I slept with him and I remember like I was 21 and I looked at the, he had like one of those. While you were with your boyfriend. No. No. Well, yeah.

I remember. The boyfriend for like three months. Okay. So like I was looking up and then he's clock. was on the wall. You know, like it was shining on the wall. Like, what are you? Projecting on the wall.

And it was like 4.45 a.m. And I just remember looking at it after sleeping with him and it was like so horrible, the sex is over. But I was like, I need to reassess my life choices. I remember it so. I was going like, this is not who I am. Yeah. Like I'm not a one night stand person.

And it could have been longer, but I just remember going, no. No. Wow. This is not it. Yep. Yeah. That's a good one. It is a good one.

I hadn't thought about this guy for so long, but now it's like, it's like all coming back to me. Right before I met my husband, I was, I was some girlfriends or what have you. And it wasn't that this guy wasn't great looking, but there was something about him. Like there was some kind of a vibe like he was confident. He was actually from Ireland, this sort of tiny little leprechaun of a man. Like, oh, my gosh. Not even. Visual.

Visual. But there's something so weirdly like, like the energy or something. Like you had very sexual, like confident energy. Like energy. Yeah. And we just like, like, interesting. Back and forth headed off. And I mean, obviously he was trying to get somewhere because he told me I reminded him

of Jennifer Aniston. I was like, but of course my like the flattery, you know, Flattery opened up your legs. Like, okay. Yeah. It opened up. But it was fun. She was like, thank you.

Because the wee tiny leprechaun knew what he was doing. All of them in there were like so sexual. Like the energy, I was like, this actually was not a bad choice. Yeah. There's something to be sad. I think feel like maybe men can like overcompensate when they're not writing. Yeah. When they're not like so good looking or what have you.

Maybe they channel that energy into like the sex. I agree. I agree. I would believe that for. Right? Yeah. Yeah. Some people you see it and you're like, I don't know what it is about him, but he's got something really sexy and he's kind of fucked up looking.

Yes. Whatever it is. I love guys that just like are in love with like the female. Like my husband's like that. He just didn't love with like the female form. Like nothing is gross to him. Yes. Period.

I know people don't have period sex. But like, no, a lot of people. They don't know. They do. When I put it on my Instagram, I would say you put period sex on my Instagram. Come to my Instagram. No, I was like, this is what it is. I did a poll about periods.

And I said, do you have sex on your period? And it was like 6040. So 40 said yes. And 60 said no. And I found that really interesting because I thought, like, for me, I feel so much more sensitive. Like, I think it's great. I think it's the idea that it's dirty or wrong or gross or whatever. But I don't know what my point was.

My point was, like, when I got into. And that's it. Yeah, it's all of it. We talked about that. Like, is that a turnoff if a guy isn't willing to have sex? We're like, I find it a turn off. I think it is because it kind of makes you, yeah, you're like, what's wrong with me? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But here's the question.

What about oral sex on your period? I mean, is that it? Is that a, no? I've had a guy do that once, like full period. Okay. Did you shower first? Did the shower first? No, we were having sex and he just went down.

And it didn't stop them. shower first, it's like fair game. I have a friend, Tom. This guy used to go down on their period and just pull the tampon string out. Now, I have had that. I have had that. I've never, well, not the tampon taking out. She's got a lot of life to live.

Apparently, I'm flacking. The problem is on your podcast, this is the issue, is that like you go, well, maybe I wouldn't say this to other people, but you're like, well, if Rachel Bilsen's saying it, it's fine. And then you're like, what the fuck did I just say? I'm like, well, she's fine and she's acting.

So it's like, it doesn't inhibit her from getting jobs. Oh, God. There's so many moments where I'm like, oh my God, what are they fucking set? Yeah.

And like, then it gets picked up. I know. Well, fucking asshole bitch dick. I mean, I know. That's getting picked up. My biggest fear, my biggest fear,

there's like so many fears to have in life. My biggest fear I say to my husband is like, If, like, I do a movie and it gets really, like, I get really successful from that movie. And they go, we, we listen to the first episodes of our show. Because we were new and we were just, like, so nervous. They were just like, say everything.

Yeah. And I'm like, oh, my gosh. Like, if a movie hits big. When? When. I have a movie this weekend. I'm going to plug it. It's called Blood, Sweat, and Cheer.

It's really fucking fun. And we had the premiere yesterday. It actually was supposed to be on Netflix, but it just came out on TV, which is like the free platform. And it's their featured. It's actually really crazy. And it's like Joel breakers. Oh, love it. Yeah.

And I'm there like, it's really fun. I kill people. It's great. It's funny. It's dark. Yes. Like the, yeah. I think that's like you were so good at playing the villain too.

Thank you. That is your. I'm so brilliant. It's very dominant. And aggressive. You know, I have a friend who was like you were the absolute best character on pretty little eyes. Like fucking obsessed with you.

Thank you. Yeah. I forget that, you know, you forget that people actually like, your work. I mean, like, or they even care. Like, I'm always like, ma'amah, I say to my husband, I've done nothing with my life. It's like, you're on a hit TV show. Like, but is it enough? Is it enough? That's just being human. Yeah. Right. It's always that. Right. Yeah. It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter what level you are, where you are. Everybody has that. Yeah.

That's right. Everybody does. It's just that insecure. It's true. Yeah. For you, that little A little leprechaun. Yeah, the little. My little lepercon that I'm old fond. Like, I know, I want to find them. Yeah, that's what the title of this is. Can we find the lepricor? Can we?

At the end of the rainbow. Yeah. The little lepricone. What are your thoughts on unsolicited dick picks? I mean, it's been a minute. Yeah. I know. I know.

I know. I mean, if it's a nice looking dick, like, I don't have a problem with it. But if it's a little, you know, craggly and kind of. Roxy, you're married. It's your husband's dick. Who are these dick bicks you're getting? You never know. She's like, well, all these did take time getting.

What are you talking about? Random DM. Okay, this is a really weird question because it's so normal that it's not even like worth asking, but we want to know. What's the first thing you do when you get home from a trip? A trip. Yeah. That's both we're just like.

I have a psycho answer and people are like you're a serial killer. Great. Want to hear it. immediately start unpacking and washing all my clothes. Love it. Have to get it done like right in that first five minutes. I have to. I can't have the suitcase sitting there.

I can't have like clothes coming out of the suitcase. Like I have to wash everything that was on me. It's the germophobia thing. On the airplane has to go in the wall. Yeah. Up from head to toe. I don't do the washing. I don't do any of the cleaning or the washing.

Well, he really hit the jackpot. I think, like, well, He's also a director and sometimes doesn't work, you know? So it's like, it all evens out. He's just so crazy about cleanliness that I just couldn't be bothered because he's going to redo it anyway. So it's like, I do the floors. So there you go. There you go.

Clean the floors. But he unpackes everything when we get home. What? Yeah, yeah. He does all the, you know, he does all the dish. But I get kind of frustrated because I say like, don't. I'm such a crazy. I'm like, don't wash my workout clothes because they shrink.

Yeah. And I always get them back. and they're shrunk. So now I'm doing a little bit more washing. Yeah. It's like the women, but I'm not good at it. Yeah. And like it's interesting because like, you know, people think that we there's still like people think that we have roles and like, you know, which is obviously changing. But our roles are really different. Like because last year I did seven projects. My husband had to like be with the kids and he had to like take him to school and he had to clean up and, you know, he had to do the dish. He had to do their laundry, like all the things. How did he handle that? Like, because I know some men. He's better than me. He's at it. Um, but. Um, but

then he's about to go to a movie. He'll be gone for four months. Right. He'll come back on the weekends. So it's going to be me. I find it harder based on like how I grew up. My parents did everything for me. Like that's why my kids, I'm like, you wash your own dishes. Right. So I find it harder than he does. Came from a single mom. His mom was never there. So he had to like know how to do it all. He knows how. But like this bullshit that people are like, you know, my husband does nothing and doesn't clean or cook. Like if my husband wanted me to clean more, I'd be happy to. He just doesn't want me to. He just doesn't want me to. I do it terribly. So I just don't. You purposely do it. I'm like, but I cook. I do all the cooking.

Okay. He drops the kids at school. I pick him up. It's very much a team. Love it. That's great. But financially, it's very different. Like, you know, his stuff comes in chunks and then it's like kind of years between drinks and mine peters in consistently.

Right. You know, so. Yeah, it all works. It's like you find the things that people do best and kind of delicate. Right? Yeah. But we're always interested in like the power dynamic relationship. Yeah.

You know, like who's the whatever. Yeah. Certain. Yeah. Yeah. I think there's certain men, certain women who have issues with it either. And it's hard to not use money as a power dynamic in either role. Yeah.

Because like, you know, the last few years I did really well financially and like I had to be careful to not make him feel like he worked for me. Do you know what I mean? And just be like, well, you do this because I've been off making money for two years. because that doesn't feel good either, you know? So it's hard. And like obviously he wants to work. His business is very different than mine is and social.

There's lots of things I can do that isn't just acting. Yeah. So it's easier for me. Well, it's also a lot of work what he's doing while you're, oh my gosh, yeah. It's like, yeah. That's the hard part. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. The day-to-day grunts. It's a lot. Yeah. Absolutely. Kids are fucking hard work. Yeah. Hard work. Hard work, man. Bessie. Fuck. Oh, my God. This has been so much fun. So fun. We really appreciate you being so open. And we'll come over to. Yeah. Where are we? Women on.

Come over after this podcast if you're not sick to women on top. Yeah. If you're not sick. Of us talking. Sorry, I didn't finish. I was like, if you don't have a sickness and your sperm is clean. Hi, Rob. So I hear the knocking at my door and I'm back here and I get so scared because that's just my natural reaction to a knock on the door always. And I was like, oh my God. So I went in my back. I was walking to my bathroom to climb on my toilet to peer out the window that looks at the front door to see who is here.

It's appropriate reaction to a knock on the door. Yeah. But then I heard that the door was opening. So I was like, I bet it's fucking robbed who didn't tell me he was coming here to record. cord today. Did you use a key? Yeah, I had to, well, it was locked. So I got, well. Yeah, my door was locked. Okay. Yeah. So I used the key. Okay. Use the key. Hi, Olivia. Hi, guys. It's a cozy hotel room. You look, lived in. It's so lived in, guys. Olivia doesn't leave her hotel room. Nope. I did go out once. She did. She went out once.

Where'd you go? She went to a boot barn, right? I did. I went to a boot barn and I got two cute jackets. So you went out shopping. And I went to a restaurant. She had an outing with some of her castmates. It's been a really, it's been an interesting week, you guys.

Why that wasn't? Retrograde, right? Mercury's in retrograde. Is that you said? Yeah. Yeah. So Rob, dude. So, you know, I'm away and Jeff's at home.

And I FaceTime him and Shepard starts acting out this scene. And he's going, Grandma down. And then he's like going Grandma Boo-boo and laying on the floor and like acting out this whole thing. And I'm like, what is going on? And Jeff's like, well, your mom's in the emergency room. And I was like, what the hell happened? Because she's there to help Jeff while I'm gone. Apparently she was outside.

She went to smell the roses. as one does, in her socks outside, slipped down the hill, flipped over the fence to the outside of my house, landed on the sidewalk on her head, and Shepard went running to my brother and was like, Grandma down, come on down. Like a military reaction? I don't mean to laugh. It's just... We're only laughing because she's okay.

She's okay. But she spent the night in the emergency room. But she's just in the emergency room. She's okay. I just die it. Grandma down. Grandma down. Grandma down.

Pretty wild body reaction to rolling down a hill. Then also clear a fence. And the fence is like a foot high though. Like she's like... Still, that's, you're rolling. Tripped over it. Yeah. Jeff's like, I love, she was here to help me because I really needed it.

And now I'm taking care of her. Anywho. Oh, my God. And then Rachel, tell us about what you went through yesterday. My grandma passed away last night. I know that sounds like a... Why do we laugh at these things? All right.

I know. No, it was actually like... I kind of went through this crazy experience because she's... She's 90. She was 90 years old. My dad's mom. And, you know, I got a call that she was in the hospital. Like, she had been fine. And it turned out she had a leaky heart valve and she didn't want to do surgery, which is understandable. She was 90. And so we all went to the hospital yesterday to say goodbye to her. And I hadn't seen her since pre-pandemic, even though she lives here and, you know, life and whatnot. And, you know, life and whatnot. and dealing with those emotions. But it was the craziest thing because we knew that she was going to be moved to hospice after everyone saw her and on meds. And then she would pass.

And they said it could be anywhere from a couple hours to a couple days. But it was the crazy experience because we all went and to say goodbye to her. And my mom came with me and my dad was there and we were talking to her. and she was fully just talking to me like normal, normal conversation. She brought up the podcast. She's a fan, yeah. She said, I don't even know what a podcast is,

but I know you do it. And then she was like, I've been watching the podcast. I'm like, oh, maybe she saw like YouTube of the OC one, but then she was talking about Olivia. And I was like, okay, no, she means this one. But she was fully talking to me. And it was just so surreal that she was so normal. but like knowing that she was about to die

and it fucking fucked with me so hard and oh my god I was crying like all night and and the craziest reaction you know grief is just such a fucked thing and even though I hadn't seen her in a long time but she's been around my whole life but just the notion of like knowing you're about to die and all your loved ones come to see you and you're saying goodbye for the last time ever it was just

so surreal. So it was definitely heavy. It's been heavy and it happened quick, but then she passed peacefully in the night once she was on the meds and asleep. So I'm happy that it was fast and peaceful. And I don't know. I've been kind of fucked up just thinking about life

and mortality and all that fucking shit. Oh my goodness. Oh, well, what are you going to do? Well, what are you going to do? Yeah. So it's been heavy over here. Olivia's mom, you know, both of both ladies hospital yesterday, different reasons. It's just so weird and I'm like Mercury's and retrograde.

I don't know. Is everyone okay with you, Rob? Yeah, Rob, no hospital. Anyone in the hospital? My parents' best friends, the one guy that fell in the grocery store. Yeah. He's been in like hospice. Oh, still?

He's still kicking. and like stable, but his wife, she, like, had a seizure at my parents' house. Recently? Like, a month or two ago? Yeah. And now she had, like, another one, and she's, like, totally out of it. What? At the hospital, too?

Are they near you to? No. They're, like, ones in the city, ones in the suburbs. Oh, my God. Ugh. So I think my parents are now dealing with that, too, of, like, our best friends are... Best friends are now old enough and going through this. Yeah.

Yeah. It does hit them, you know, at a certain point. Not saying this is funny, but it's funny in our family because when we go see my mom and her husband and we say like, we said to him, we're like, Jim, how are you doing? And he's like, well, it's to be determined. All our friends are dying. And I was like, oh, geez, dude. And he's like, that's, you know, because they're 80. Got to laugh about it otherwise.

Exactly. What else are you going to do? Yeah, but you get to that age where you're like, oh, wow, the people around me are becoming vulnerable to that, right? Yeah. Yeah. It's, I was, you know, last night I was crying and Briar was like, Mom, are you okay? And she didn't know at the time, you know. And she didn't really see that I was crying.

But then this morning I told her, you know, and I was like, if you see Mommy sad and I explained it and she understood. And she didn't, you know, she hadn't seen my grandma moan. a while so it wasn't as close of a memory for her um but she took it well and i think you know just being open and and with the kids is always the good route to take um but yeah she handled it well what she didn't handle well was in my phone the other day she saw a picture of me in the hospital when i was in labor with her and i had the oxygen mask on and i'm laying there but i'm giving like peace signs you know so clearly i'm fine but she saw it and she was like mom are you okay and i was like yeah i was just giving birth and then

like hours later she goes mom i'm feeling really sad it's like why are you feeling sad she's like because you went through all that to give birth to me were you in pain and she couldn't shake the image of me in the hospital bed with an oxygen mask on and everything else and i was like i was great they give you medicine you feel great there's this thing called drugs and there's this thing called drugs I'm like, you know, Breyer, when you're not feeling good, and I give you Tylenol and you feel better, she's like, no. It's like, okay, well, this is not going to work on you. But anyway, it was just interesting how she's so sensitive, you know. That's actually really sweet, though.

I know, I know. She saw that and was like, really. I could see how that would be scary. Yeah. It's very, you know, it's not normal. You don't see that all the time. No. And that's why, like, I wouldn't have brought her to see my grandma yesterday because that would have been so confusing.

and she because she was on oxygen and, you know, it's just not, you know, the vibe. But I don't know. I don't know. I guess it's up for debate. I know my mom's husband's calling. Oh, do you need to answer it? Let me just answer it really quick to make sure she's okay. Yeah.

Yeah. Hi, Jim. Okay, sounds good. Thanks. Bye. Everything's okay. Okay. Everything's okay.

Sorry. Okay. He just heard about it now. Wait, what? Yes. I don't understand. Wait, what? He's listening to the podcast and he just found out.

Wait, what? I don't know. I don't know. That's what he just told me. He said, I just found out about it now. Did Shepard call him? The Shepard called him and acted it out for him. What the heck?

Grandma down. Grandma down. I told Leah this morning she was dying. Oh, it's a great story. Only because grandma's okay. You know what he says to Jeff? Because he saw Jeff crying one day. And he was trying to figure out like, why was he crying?

And Jeff said he was sad because his mom died, you know? So every so often, Shepard will just come up to Jeff and be like, Grandma died. He just wants to remind him to make him sad Grandma died She's dead Don't ever forget this Yeah Oh my god, Shep

He really Slays my soul Slays my soul Oh god Heavy Did you bring a macho rap Well no you're not here No you're not here so

Dang he had his morning He had his morning one and was like, fuck that. I'm not going to bring one for Rachel just put on the table and not touch. I miss, I wish I liked macho more. Why don't you like it? Just after I got sick, my stomach didn't want it. I don't know.

I'm barely back to coffee. Don't tacos. Rob wants to order tacos. Order tacos. Do you want tacos? I mean, God, I like whatever. Olivia's like, I want food. I want tacos.

Yeah, so she, her. options for, or she's been door-dashing a lot. Oh, you got like what, Pizza Hut and Applebee's? Yep. Listen, don't knock an Applebee's talking to my awesome blossom heart. Actually, I don't even know if that's Applebee's or, is Applebee's awesome blossom? Or is that Chili's? Is it Chili's?

I don't know. They both have one. I don't know. The names didn't escape me. Lou, have you had a mammogram? No. I keep getting real... I keep getting mammographs.

Yeah, I keep getting them. Everyone's yelling at me because I did one, I think, in my 20s, just because I was like, I don't know, I want to just check, but, like, it's really important that we do them. Should we all go get mammograms this weekend? And Rob should join us. The jury's out on whether they want you to do it at 40 or 45. I thought it was after 35 or something. It changes, but there's different...

So you're where you're holding out for... 45, I take it. Well, it looks like it. Yeah. But I did just do one of those full body CT scans and all that stuff. But does that catch things if it's an AIDS too? Are your breasts included in full body? Yeah.

I keep my breasts on my body. They're part of your full body? They are. Okay, well, I'm just, you know. Yeah, let's go get one together and film it. But is that like your internist? Honestly, we can document it. Is that your internist that sets that up or your Obe or Gino?

Do you know? I don't know. You're married to a doctor. You should know these things. He sets it up for me. Oh, that's so lucky. He could set it all up for you too, Rachel. Find a doctor.

You're his sister wife. I know. I need to. I am a sister wife. It was so sweet because Olivia's out of town and Jeff text Leah and I. He's like, sister wives. Well, either of you come with me Saturday night. Where is he going?

Taylor, oh gosh, what's her last name? Taylor Swift? No, that would be amazing. I would be there. I forget the comedian, Taylor, you know Rob, cute young girl. Do you know Rob? He doesn't know. He went to coffee with her last week.

Who have you had coffee with lately, Rob? Yeah. I'm a friend Kirk yesterday. Who's Kirk? What does he do? What's he famous? He plays music. Mm-hmm. In what band?

Radiohead. No. No, no. This band called Gatsby's American Dream, and he's another project called KK. And his Weathered Underground and the Wild Orchid Children. But he's playing a show tonight here. Are you going?

I am. Rob doesn't like to miss a show. Well, they haven't played a show in, like, 15 years. Oh. They were, like, one of my favorite bands in high school. Is Cal going? I'm going by myself. You're going by yourself?

I'll know people there, so it's fine. You're really good like that. I know he is. Which is interesting, you know? It's my mom's birthday tomorrow, you guys. Yay. What are you doing for her? Surprising her.

So we're going to go to high tea somewhere that she's never been. She's always wanted to try. And she doesn't know. High tea? What does that entail? You don't know what high tea is? You're just getting tea? No, it's like, you know, like a tradition from Britain.

Where you go. Britain? You have tea and you have your little tea sandwiches. usually like crestless and maybe some scones with clotted cream and like depends on the place but you know traditional high tea. Is that like a certain time? Well usually high tea is like in the afternoon traditionally I believe in England and I can be corrected if I'm wrong but you can go anytime.

And she's always wanted to go to high tea? Well we go to high tea normally at this one place but we're trying there's a place that's like kind of famous for it that she's always wanted to try so we're going to go there. Nice. And then what? Who's going? My brother and my sister-in-law and Breyer and myself and my stepdad of my mom. To tea. High tea.

Yeah, high tea. Hi-T. Cheerio. Yeah. Lou, you know what traditional high-tee is. I do. And then what? And then we're going to come back here and Leah's going to come over and we're going to hang out.

and I'm contemplating if I'm going to cook or order. You're going to leave. I'm going to leave. I'm out of here. I'm going to see David Satheris tomorrow. You are? He gave you the cunt chocolate. He was on that told us about the cunt chocolate.

Did I show you a picture of the cunt chocolate that Rob gave me, Olivia? He gave you the chocolate? Well, I think I left it at his house, but he gave it to me last week. and it's a full-blown chocolate mold of a very detailed vagina. Yeah, he sent the pictures. Wasn't it sweet of Rob to grace me with... So sweet. ...vigina chocolate.

Did you eat it? No, I left it at his house. Did you eat it, Rob? I took a bite out of it, and then... It was good. Was it good chocolate? Yeah, it's good chocolate. It's just pure chocolate.

And they come in all the different ways, apparently. There's different, yeah, different vagina molds. Yeah. Like full bush, right? Yep. What are the other variations? Very clean bush, or clean shaven, I guess not even a bush. Wait, what's the point of this?

It's from an art museum in Australia. Oh, okay. Oh. I didn't know that. You didn't tell me that information. He just handed me a chocolate vagina and was like, here you go. And I think there was probably some sort of sculpture originally, sculptures that the artist made. And then they turned them into soap. and chocolate and

Do you know who the artist is? Nope. Okay. Olivia, what have you ordered from Applebee's? Is that actually where you've been ordering? Yes. I ordered some weird bowl. I don't know.

I'm not like an Applebee's. I'm not like that kind of food kind of gal. No? What kind of? But Rachel is. You strike me as an Applebee's gal. I'm an Applebee's gal. She is.

Through and through. They have like Cracker barrel. They have all Rachel's. jams. I went to Cracker Barrel once and they... I would thrive. They, it didn't make sense, but there was like a combo that was cheaper if you added meat to the... Oh my God. What? And they were, I was with a friend that was a vegetarian and they were trying to convince him like, yeah, just add the sausage and it's like $3 less.

I don't understand that. Yeah, it made no sense. That's terrifying. Yeah. Why? Don't. Cracker Barrel's my home. How do you eat? Here's my question is how do you eat food like that and function, though? Like, if I were to order that kind of food right now, I'd want to go to sleep. Yeah, it's like hibernation food. Yeah. I don't think it affects me the same way. Like, excuse me.

She's conditioned her body. Jill's like that too. Like, I don't notice that I get really tired. Maybe I'm just always permanently tired, so like I just don't notice a difference. You know what I mean? Oh, I notice it to me it's like a. sedative. Oh, guys, I'm going to take up tennis.

Awesome. Not pickleball? Would you say not pickleball? Yeah. No, pickleball's like all the rage, apparently. No, I'm going to take up tennis. That's great. Did you just decide this right now?

Well, I've been deciding. I played tennis when I was younger a little bit. But I got a racket. I'm on my way. Are you doing it alone? Well. Are you trying to meet men in this? No.

Meet men? Is that what women do? They pick up tennis to meet some bachelors on the court. Yeah, I mean, just seen the show Red Oaks. Maybe he was pickleball. Who are you doing it with? Well, I'll do it by myself or I might do it. I talked, well, Terry, I talked to her about us taking lessons,

but she dislocated her shoulder, so she's kind of down for the count for a little while. And another friend of Warner Breyer's friend's moms is taking it at another tennis. place. I have to figure it out. I always find that if I have someone to do it with, it's more motivating. Like, Olivia and I still need to start doing our Pilates, so we actually do it. If I have a friend to do it with, then I'll do it. Or a partner. Accountable. Yeah, accountable and motivated. Right? Yeah. Just like this podcast. Do you want to play tennis, Olivia? Um, I don't know. I don't know. What do you mean you don't know? Why not? I just, I don't know. It seems like aggressive.

Aggressive? What do you think this is like Wimbledon and you're going to be groaning like Serena Williams or something? I mean, I would try it. I just, I don't know. I don't know. I find it fun. I like to do things for my exercise and, you know, move in my body. I like to like play tennis or do Pilates. I'm not a runner. No, me neither. I don't like running. Rob, do you like running? You gotta get that Peloton. Oh. My poor palatown.

I do not like running. I don't like running aimlessly. What are you like? You're like running like towards food? I'll find running if it's like for softball. Oh yeah. See, you're doing something. Yeah.

Right. Or tennis. Or tennis. Because you're running a lot in tennis. Well, you're moving a lot. You are. You got to get to the ball. Do you play tennis?

No. Have you ever? Yeah. Oh. Okay. I mean, I would try it. But you didn't invite me to play tennis, so... You're busy.

I know. Can I ask you something behind you? Is that like a sofa bed if you need an extra bed? I noticed that too. I thought it was a bed the whole time, and then like 10 minutes ago, I realized it was a couch. It's a couch. I don't know if it's a bed. I didn't like...

It's just a couch, but it looks like abnormally long, like a chaise couch. Is that what I'm saying? Well, it's got like a headboard behind it, it looks like. Yeah, it does. Is it a chaise, Olivia? Like elongated cushions? It's just an optical illusion. Oh, it's an optical illusion.

It's a couch. It's a couch. Fancy hotel suite. It's a couch, guys. I need to figure out my life. So are we done here? Is that what you're saying? In what ways?

So many ways. Say many ways. Okay. Who wants to go glamping this summer? I do. So we're going to. We want to go to, have you heard of flying flags? Nope.

Okay, look it up. What is it? It's like they, you can like rent, I think like RVs or glamping or a what? Or glamping. I thought you said or a banger. Like what? What did you say? Rvies or glamping.

Oh. What is happening? I'm finally scheduled mammoth the first weekend of June. That's nice. The whole family? Nope. This is my birthday present.

To be without your family? My friend Matt's flying from Texas. Oh, the ones you stayed with over the holidays? Yeah. Well, that was my birthday present to him. Was I bought him a flight. so that he could come and make the trip. Wait, what do you guys do in Mammoth?

Ski. Oh, you are going to ski? Yeah. You ski? Yeah, we had a very extensive conversation about this. I know. I didn't know you, like, enjoyed skiing. I mean, I haven't skied in like 10 years.

You're not, yeah, okay. But I'm going to ski for two days. And go to restaurants. There's the Valtaggio restaurant there that we're going to go to. How did you guys like Tammin and Roxy? They're awesome. We love that. They are women on top, for sure.

There are kind of gals, is what they are. Yeah, it was super fun. I had so much fun talking to them. Rob, you were missed. You missed out, I should say. Yeah, you weren't missed. I'm just kidding. How long do you think, if you buy, like, turkey from the deli,

would you let it sit in the fridge before eating it? Wait, like, is it pre-packaged or fresh from the deli? Fresh from the deli. A week? maybe maybe you're a little more if it doesn't start to smell and get slimy but i'm so weird about me i don't know i wouldn't do more than four days i feel like guys go longer than girls if it's in the fridge yeah it's in the fridge yeah how long's it been in that fridge is it how how refrigerated is your fridge though it's a super refrigerated like things are frozen refrigerated okay maybe you need to turn that dial down a little bit

I know. My yogurt's like frozen yogurt. People want to know how long they should keep their turkey and their fridge. Yeah, I think I saw a bunch of comments about that on the last episode. Yeah. Well, no, I think this is interesting because I think guys, like Jeff will eat things. If it's over a day in the fridge of leftovers, I'm over it. Not going to eat it. He'll go like a week. Natalie and I had an argument this week about this. See? Tell us. Go. We ordered salads while we were recording from Goop.

And it was like an Italian salad. So the pepperoni was the only meat in it. She saw when we postmated it. So she knew what time it was ordered. And then it was like three hours later I got home. And she wouldn't eat it because I'd have been sitting out for three hours. Because of the pepperoni? She said anything.

And she didn't. And it wasn't okay for me to just go sticking on the first. fridge and eat later. My thing would be more it's not a cold salad at that point. And it's just gross. I wouldn't be concerned about the pepperoni. Me neither. She's, yeah, she gets concerned about any.

It's usually meat, but in this argument, it was any food that was left out that long. Yeah. I mean, three hours for a salad, like, you want a cold meal. You go to Christmas parties and salads are out longer than that. That's true. Jeff would leave it out overnight and then put it in a cold meal. I didn't eat it. Oh, I remember my friend

had leftover pasta, left it in their car. It was hot out. Next day, still in the car, and then they ate it out for dinner. What was in the pasta? Like, was there meat in it? Yeah. I feel like there could have been. I feel like it could have been a carbonara of sorts. Oh, God, no. Yeah. But if it's just like a tomato sauce. Maybe it was Arbiana. If it was Arbiana. But still

I would just not do that. All day? that's disgusting I agree hot car bluh that's gross I mean his car probably did not smell great either

don't you think that's gross disgusting it depends what's in it like I mean you have food in your house that you don't put in the fridge that's just out not in a hot car

not cooked food hmm you know yeah your face your face when you sent that. I would do like

leftover pasta maybe for a couple days. Pizza. Pizza. Yeah, pizza can sit out for like six hours for me and I'll still eat it. Yeah, pizza, whatever.

Yeah. Well, here, at the baby shower, the food was out all day. Cheese and... Yeah. Cheese and tuna and egg salt, like all of it.

But it depends on the food. If it was like a... Salad, a chicken. If it was a rotisserie chicken sitting out for eight hours, you maybe not. No. But I did bring that food home from the baby shower and fed it to Jeff, but I didn't eat it.

My brother, all the dudes that came after they were golfing, they all ate it. The tuna, the egg salad, everyone was fine. It's because dudes can do that. You checked. Did you check in on all of their bowel movements afterwards? Yes. I mean, tuna and egg salad is pretty gross to leave out. Yeah, I agree.

Yeah, I agree. But the salad that had chicken in it was out all day, and we still ate it all day. Did you eat it all day? My personal shark cruiseries, Rob, did you happen to catch a glimpse at my individual shark cruetries? I did not. So cute. Cuteest thing ever. I will show you a picture.

I think if I could do a side hustle, it would be just creating shark rudery boards or individuals. I think you can't. Yeah. You think that could happen? I think you can make that happen for yourself. I had my monthly guy's dinner last night. Where'd you go? Went to Meteora.

Isn't that where you've been saying you keep wanting to go? Yeah. How was it? So I went. It was great. What'd you get? It's a, like, prefix, so they... There was a lot of good food. And was it a fun dinner?

It was. I got a juice pairing with it, too. A juice? So apparently the chef... I don't know if he's sober or what, but he designed the, like, drink menu for... non-alcoholic use first. They have just like all their cocktails can be done purely non-alcoholic. I love that.

And they're like insane. That's fun. That's really fun. You'd enjoy that, Lou. Yeah, let's go. Okay, well, let's wrap it up here. Olivia's still trying to order. You're still trying to order?

I haven't ordered. I have to shower. I've got to go. All right. Well, our new little movie star is too busy for us now. A new little movie star needs to go do all the things. That's hilarious. She has to go.

I gotta go, guys. All right, well then, till next week. Until next week. We love you and miss you. That was a headgum podcast.