Broad Ideas with Rachel Bilson & Olivia Allen - Tyler Henry on Listening to Your Intuition

Episode Date: November 3, 2025

Rachel and Olivia sit down with Tyler Henry to ask all their burning questions about his gift of clairvoyance, reflect on their reading experience, and explore the archetypes that shape our lives.Watch the video of this episode here!Like the show? Rate Broad Ideas 5-Stars on Apple Podcasts and SpotifyAdvertise on Broad Ideas via Gumball.fm See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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That is true. It's so true. Yeah. Tyler Henry, the Hollywood medium. Our now friend. Thank God. Thank God. Let's just talk to him and not talk to us.

Like always, we like to hear other people talk. Bye. Go Rachel. Okay. Take it away. No, Tyler, we're so happy you're here, and it's so nice to see you again. Thank you. Your energy is just like so contagious and positive and amazing.

I appreciate it. I know. It feels like it's been a hot minute since I've seen you. And so it's so good to get to follow up and get to reconnect. Yes, absolutely. And Olivia over there on her couch. I'm so glad. Yeah, I'm so glad it worked out this way because we were trying to get you before we did the show.

And now the timing actually worked out perfect because we got to experience that before talking to you, which is really cool. Yes, I think it helps lend important context, too. It's one thing to experience it and another thing to hear about it. So it's cool. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think, you know, just for our listeners, and I don't know anyone who doesn't know you or

what you do, but maybe you could just talk a little bit about it to people in. Yeah. Absolutely. Well, my work is that of a clairvoyant and clairvoyant is a French word. It means clear sight. And so it's an intuitive ability that I discovered first when I was 10 years old. I didn't recognize it, I guess, as a gift or a proclivity until I got a little bit older. But I had my first premonition, a kind of a moment of knowingness at 10. And the experiences that came thereafter, you know, very often revolved around being kind of at the right place at the right time, a certain degree of synchronicity. And so I think of a medium or in my role as a clairvoyant medium, somebody who relies

heavily on strong internal mental images as a way to navigate intuitive impressions. And then if one is good at what they're doing, they can relay that in a way that makes sense to the person they're reading. Yeah. I mean, we, we had such a crazy experience with you on your show. And what you can do is just incredible. Thank you. Yeah, we have like firsthand examples of experiencing it. And what a gift. And as like a young kid when you first, well, you know, like, realized this was, I could. kind of want to know what that's like because as a child, was there like fear attached to it or was it, you know, exciting? I kind of want to know what that was like. So, well, you know, it was very

multifaceted in the sense that I initially knew something was strange when I woke up one night and just had this overwhelming knowingness that my grandmother was going to pass. And at the time, it had really just felt like a memory that hadn't happened yet. And so you can imagine how confusing that would be. It's almost like deja vu to an extreme extent. But an, and as those moments kind of continued to happen between really like 10 and 13, you know, I would start getting these feelings and sometimes would just naively relay them to kids at school and then ultimately teachers, which became a whole other thing. My Netflix show covered my math teacher and her experience, you know, with me when I was a teenager

and, you know, coming up to her and relaying a message. And so these moments, you know, happened to me. I think there was a very clear relationship between what I called a pure eternist or some kind of like innate childlike quality that I never lost, a deep sense of imagination. And I think those two things definitely relate genuinely to practical psychic abilities. I have a question. Have you listened to the telepathy tapes? It's fascinating. The neurodiversions that's been really, really interesting to all the studies that have gone into that. And I have a dear friend Gary Nolan, who is, a professional at Stanford University, and he's done a lot of really interesting side research

into how neurodivergence relates to intuition and how perhaps there are certain filters that the everyday person has, perhaps for good reason. But perhaps certain intuitive people might not have those filters to the same extent. Yeah. So here's my question, too, because I've shared this before, but right before the LA fires, I have a kid with, special needs. He's got a chromosome deletion. And a few days before he was coming to me and my other son and saying there's fires everywhere. All the buildings are burning. All the buildings are burning. And we'd go, no, baby, you're just having bad dreams. And he would get angry about it. He'd go, no, everything's burning. And so we were like, it's not. And then obviously all the fires broke out

and he could see a clip on the news and he looked at us and he went, I told you. And we went, oh, what? And then I told another mom at school this who also has a child with special needs and she goes, you're not going to believe this. She's like, I'm going to send you a picture when I get home

and it was a picture her son had drawn and it was a bunch of palm trees on fire. And so Shepard, my son and her son, the only two, well, there's three of them, But there was two kids with special needs in the class. Shepherd was saying everything was going to go on fire. And then this other kid was drawing it. And so someone's like, if you don't listen to the telepathy tapes, you're asleep at the wheel.

So with your experience and something like that, what would someone do to either nurture that or what do we do with our typical children or ourselves to kind of tap into that and have more guidance or intuition? what are your thoughts on that and directions? I think intuition is the key word, and it really means that inner tuition or that inner knowledge. And I really think of it as kind of tapping into this collective consciousness. And very often we find that trends, even in pop culture, or ideas or even inventions, often seem to kind of come to multiple people around the same time.

And I don't think that that's accidental. I think there's some intuitive proclivity or almost like a stream of thoughts or ideas that perhaps some people can kind of tune into. I think of a famous quote that Michael Jackson had. He said something to the effect of, you know, he has to stay up late at night and make sure that he's listening to God and that he writes down the ideas that God tells him because if he doesn't, God will give him to Prince. Oh, that's so good. I love that quote because it kind of speaks to this idea that creativity.

inspiration is like streams and people can connect to them to varying extents. And I think, you know, while narrow divergence might aid in removing some of those filters, we all have the ability to find means of getting more centered. I think balance is really key. One of the greatest misconceptions to psychic abilities, I think, is this idea that it's a scary, frightening, overwhelming, overstimulating thing. I mean, it has its moments, but so does life, right? I think that really, if anything, spirituality,

should aid in balance and, you know, maintaining homeostasis and like it should enrich our lives. I think the more balance we can find, the more we can notice the subtleties of perhaps that weather that's around us. I love that. Yeah. I mean, it's so true. And I think there is like this thing that does come along with all of that, like the psychic ability or intuition or whatever and a lot of people who are afraid of that.

and my my grandmother what would she always say like if you're born in the sack you're automatically gifted with some psychic ability or intuition or whatever right and what does that mean what does that mean like if you're born in the sack like you're not amniotic yeah yes thank you like the whole yeah the whole sack sorry yeah oh thank you for the scientific words that uh always leave my mind. I feel you. Yeah. They call it like being born behind the veil or something along those lines.

Yeah. Fascinating. And some babies, that seems kind of intense. Yeah. So that was my grandmother. Wow. Born on Christmas Day, which was, I don't know, kind of interesting too. My mom, on Olivia.

I never did you this? No, I've never. Like stunned over there. No, I love it. You know I love new information. I've never heard that. Yeah. Yeah, and so she definitely had the ability.

And, you know, my mom and myself and now my daughter, we all have, I think a lot of people have strong intuition, but we have, you know, I don't know, maybe a little stronger, but I just always thought that was interesting. I have a question for both of you. Have you noticed a certain, like, maternal intuition that you perhaps have but didn't have before? Yeah, for sure. I mean, I've always had a very strong intuition. But the maternal one is like next level.

You just know, you know, with every move of your child or whatever, it's just, it's heightened for sure. Yeah. I think that like the minute my son came out, Shepard, I was telling everyone something's different. And everyone just kept saying, oh, no, he's fine. He's normal. He's this. He's that. And I kept, like, there was something inside of me that was just like, but he's not.

And that doesn't mean it's negative. It's just different. But, you know, he failed his hearing tests. And they're like, oh, that's normal. That happened. And everything was like, normal, normal, normal. And inside I was screaming, it's not. Like something is different.

And it was a knowing. But I think that the hard part for me with mother's intuition is a lot of times the instinctual fears get kicked up and kind of get louder. than the intuition to keep them alive and safe. And so that's a conflicting part about being a parent is I do feel that increased fear takes over sometimes versus that still small voice that has that clear knowing. Makes sense. And that kind of old, age-old battle between, like, is it anxiety or is it intuition? And one good cue that I find to be helpful in discerning between.

between the difference is this quote that says something to the effect of if it's hysterical, it's historical. And so generally, and it's not to say that bad things don't repeat or negative experiences, we don't deal with them more than once in life, but generally if we find ourselves like overreacting to a feeling or an inclination, sometimes that's an indication. It's not intuition and instead, you know, more rooted in hybrid. That's like what I always say is like intuition will never speak through fear's voice. Oh, I love that.

Oh, I'm going to write that on a post-shoot number and stick that on my refrigerator. I love that. I know, that's a good one. She has to constantly remind me. And myself. I love that. Yeah. And yourself.

Everyone. We're making T-shirts. Question for you real quick is, what scares you? What scares me? I think the human capability for cruelty. I think that's probably like I really don't fear anything on the other side. You know, things that go bump in the night. I think people often say, you know, are you afraid of ghosts?

No, I think if anything, when we pass it, I believe that there's a certain evolution of consciousness and that this is just one step among many steps that we will take in our journey of awareness. But I find that it is more the living material matters that really are hard to reckon with. There's this thing in philosophy called the problem of evil, which is basically, you know, why does God allow for evil to happen? And that, you know, definitely is something I think about. And while I do have a deep faith in the deep trust, it's a challenge with that aspect of why is there cruelty. Right. Yeah. Now, you know, you obviously can see things and you do these readings and whatever.

Have there ever been times where things come to you and you're just like, holy fuck? Just like totally either scared or shocked or, you know, things you see. Yeah. Absolutely. I've had so many strange moments. They're always the unexpected ones. And I find, I mean, there was one instance, this might be an odd example, but I was reading a beekeeper and, you know, was doing my reading and connecting and channeling. And then I just saw a swarm of bees.

And I didn't know that this person was a beekeeper, which was very connected. to these insects, and it's hard to say in my line of work, what is a vision of a memory and what is something coming through? And in that case, it really made me wonder if these hives of bees weren't showing some kind of gratitude in their hive consciousness for this person, enough for it to get reflected in this reading. Equally, it could have been a memory. It could have been something I was picking up on, but the questions that presents alone are really mind-buckabing. and pretty intense. Yeah, for sure.

And I wanted you guys to tell, like, Olivia, I still can't get over the threes. When we went on his show, maybe you, I don't know if you want to speak to that a little. That was actually mind-blowing that that happened. Yeah, so the whole reading was mind-blowing. You picked up on my father, and look, there's, and I've talked to a lot of people after that. And it's like you could read, you could find out that my dad died. Sure. There was an essence in which you described him that I've never talked about publicly,

that I've never even touched on. And the way you nailed it was so dead on that it almost, I had like a few days afterwards where I didn't quite know how to process it, right? because it was so kind of like from day one from the time your show came out I told Rachel we're manifesting that

that's going to happen I've been saying it for years Rachel you have to do something we got to get to him somehow and so it was so crazy when we did I was like I did that but yeah you picked up

on an essence of my father that there's no human possible way you could have done. And then my sign with my dad, when he passed, was I'd wake up at 3.33 in the morning. And I would get comforted and be like, okay, there's something like, everything's going to be okay. And so when we went on your show, you said, Mom, what did the odometer say today? And she said, three hundred, 33. And you were like, does those threes mean anything to any of you? And Rachel and I looked at each other like you have got to like the specificity and like there wasn't a single beat or moment that even felt off in the slightest right oh yeah yeah I mean obviously like I'm sure I know

all the feedback you get it's just so crazy and and beautiful and like oh my god and you saw my grandparents so clearly and like my oh my mom the one I was talking about who's born in the sack you like picked up you were like I'm seeing Atlantic City it was her favorite place like oh I love you were like I know and it was like specific to her and my grandfather you know who passed and it was just so cool because you feel that connection and it's just so amazing how you bring people that comfort and connecting with ones that you know they can't physically see you know physically see see anymore talk to. I really appreciate that.

That means a world. It's honestly just such a huge privilege for me and one I don't take lightly and it's deeply humbling. Every reading I do shows me the fragility of life and how sacred and beautiful it is and just as painful as it can be and how low those valleys can be in life.

So the peaks be high and life can get better and it can be just as beautiful as painful. And I hope that these readings just show people that there's an innate connection and a bond that exists that exists when a medium isn't there. You know, it's not about me. It's not about mediumship. It's really just about reflecting a connection that already exists.

I have a question on delivering that information to people and what that feels like to you sometimes because I was watching is it cake last night. And I was like, I can't be a judge on that because I don't want to tell them. I don't want to break their heart. I don't want to be the reason that we know it's cake. okay and I was like to relate to that so hard I love oh my god every time I'm like you can't judge it it's awful if you actually get it right like you're delivering news that we know it's cake um so in that there's a great responsibility in what you do and like for instance I have an aunt who went missing and this was right before I was born like the year before I was born

and I was talking to my other aunt and saying, aren't you curious? Like, what happened? Like, we have no nothing. And there's no evidence. There's no suspects. There's no nothing. 23-year-old woman worked in Venice, went missing. And she said, I'm scared to know. She said, I'm scared to know because what if it's something I can't get out of my mind? And I'm wondering what that must be like for you, that experience of knowing and holding a lot of, information and making the decision to tell people things and knowing that that could impact them. Like, talk to us about your relationship with that. Does that all make sense? Absolutely. Totally. I think of it as something almost necessitates like a follow-up care.

And so when I read people, I try to touch base thereafter or at least let them know that there's a line of communication because their reading is very intense to experience. And people go through that few-day period where they're like, whoa, you know, what's going on? And that's why I aim to try to be able to be a resource just as much as a medium. But I think of my work sort of is that of like a mailman in the sense that I'm not like writing the letters. I'm just delivering the message like a mailman would. And so within reason, I think that there is a certain responsibility and a big part of it is a huge, you know, innate need to get it right to be diplomatic in my delivery. So I don't feel responsible for the message, but I do feel responsible for how I relay it.

And there is no school for that. You know, if there was, I would love to have attended. You know, through trial and error, through being, you know, a naive teenager and reading people in grocery stores, you know, to seeing and reading people who, I mean, I think of my time with people like Anne Heish and, you know, experiences that once you've had change you as a person and change you as a medium. and really show how careful and how important it is in one's delivery to do so gently. Are there ever times where you just want to turn it off?

Like, do things just come and you're just like, I would really like to just be quiet and alone? You know, I think of it kind of was like a volume dial, and so there's always like background noise, so to speak. And a lot of it's useless. It'll just kind of be impressions that I can't really place without some other contact. When I do a reading, I have my method of scribbling, which seems to kind of increase the activity. It kind of turns up the volume dial. So that when I'm not working, I can maintain some sense of normalcy. I find that for some reason, if I go about like two to three weeks without doing work, it starts coming through in my dreams. I start having difficulty sleeping. So I kind of rely on this kind of need to alleviate this pressure in order to maintain balance. Have you ever seen him gone and sought out a medium yourself? Oh, absolutely. I think at this point in my life, there's hundreds, either through virtual sessions or through, you know, in-person meetings.

And I had a whole period where, as a teenager, I was kind of trying to explore other people, other practitioners who did different modalities of the work. And I had some very bizarre experiences. You know, some were completely full of it. And others were extraordinary. And it was often those who weren't super confident that often demonstrated some of the most amazing, you know, abilities for me. It was often the people who were, you know, forthright in their confidence that, yeah, had to be a little hesitant around. So, humility seemed to be almost necessary for psychic phenomena to work for people, at least in my experience. Yeah.

And it goes back to, like, the saints even. And I don't know how much we're aware of Catholicism, but like, you know, even back to just like the idea of humility and being humble. There's something to that, though. I'm like, wait. Yeah. I'm like, wait, I want to know more. Like, yeah, that's actually incredibly fascinating. Yeah, because it's the ego.

It's really, really intriguing. So the mind, the ego, it actually makes sense. Right. So in a state of meditation or connection or alignment, the voice of the ego is going to be a little softer. So if you turn up the volume on the ego, you're probably turning down the volume on the volume on the other signals that connect you to everything else. So it kind of makes perfect sense, really. It definitely could. There could be something to it.

And then viewing willpower and belief as a force, that's a. that's a very interesting thing in the history of psychical literature charisma like the ability to like gather a crowd was actually considered a psychic ability in line with hypnotism or mesmerism and as time goes on we don't really think of that as a psychic ability but like charisma definitely has an interrelation people feeling at ease with you and therefore maybe being able to get in rapport with their energy and that's a very vulnerable experience. usually. Yeah. Wow. And you, your mother, what a beautiful spirit, that woman. She, and she was, she's there every show when you were taping, right? Like, she's always there.

Always there. I'm like, I want my mom always with me. It's great. It's great. She always is making sure my hair, you know, she's going to, and then, you know, has a way of doing it. It's just the sweetest and I love that relationship and I mean what a ride for her too. This must, you know, have been your whole life just knowing that, you know, her son has this gift and supporting it and being supportive. Because I feel like-

Yeah, I feel like there's some people that might not be as open-minded and maybe would have had a hard time with it. But I think it's so cool like the support you have. Thank you. Yes. I feel so lucky. And I think one of the reasons why I got so much support. from her early on was just because there was such an undeniable something going on. We may not have had the words for it initially in like the early years,

but the way that synchronicity would work, the way like the 3333 thing, and how it just seemed as if when one allowed space for the inner world to allow the outer world to communicate, it created like a vacuum and things would happen that just seems statistically uncanny. And so if you have that happen enough, you know, let alone one time, it just kind of creates an innate sense of, okay, there's something more to this. And I may not have the words. They might be ineffable. But I know I have a deep knowingness. And so that's kind of a transformational nature of just paranormal experiences. Like you see a ghost and it's like, whoa, never unseeing that again, you know? And do you see it in other people? Like, can you see when, so for me, I can feel sometimes when things are, it feels like channeling, whatever that means. But you feel like, okay, I have very little to do with this, right?

So can you witness that when it's happening to other people when you go, oh, that person's got the thing? Oh, yeah, absolutely. I can recognize it in people who are deep in a state musicians often. who are deep into playing an instrument, sometimes singing, the voice is an instrument. You know, we also sometimes see it even in like chess players, people who are very locked in, almost having to intuitively predict what's about to happen. And the common denominator there is a state called the flow state. And flow state is something that happens generally to all of us,

but it's when we kind of are doing an activity where we get so lost in what we're doing, that time seems to lose its quality. If you've ever been doing something, you look up the clock and you're like, oh my God, today's flying by. You know, look at what you were doing before. Sometimes it's indication of what gets you into your flow state. And that does seem to relate to psychic abilities. Wow. I'm trying to think of my flow.

Of course you have. Yeah, like hobbies often create anything that like requires you to, even like being bilingual and like studying. As odd as it sounds like the government did some very interesting research into remote viewing, which is a form of clairvoyance. And they were looking for people who were bilingual, people who were mathematical and creative, people who could play instruments. So it seems that having like a neuroplasticity and maybe being a little neurodivergent, you know, seems to kind of help. That's so interesting. I'm like obsessed with solitary right now. Like I'm literally, just to help me pay attention, like I have to fidget. So I'm shuffling my cards as we're talking. That's not,

I'm not a chess player. I'm no mathematician. I'm definitely. Going to get you a Rubik's Cube. I do. I mean, I could never solve it, but it would definitely keep me busy. I love it. You know, but it's just like those little things that I don't know. I'm not. I wish I had a cooler hobby.

But it's very interesting to hear and to see that and that when you meet people and you can recognize it. I mean, that must be a trip in itself. It's really special. It's something that I think everybody has to marry. extents and those who can kind of get used to getting into flow states regularly seem to kind to demonstrate that channeling light quality. They're to this day, despite there being, you know, schools of hypnotherapy, there's still no scientific consensus as to what a trance state is. You know, there's changes certainly that go on in brainwaves when we're asleep, but still

not a trance. And so it kind of speaks to the mystical nature and also I think the limitations of even words. So when we see people in a trance, do we even know, you know, if they're in a trance? They might just seem like they're locked in or in the zone, all of which are phrases, you know, we use all the time without really thinking about what's informing that. Right. It's like with willpower, like, oh, I didn't know I had that in me. How often do you find people saying that? I didn't know I had that in me. It's almost like a second wind kind of can come over us. And sometimes that's, you know, I think due to assistance or psychic help. can identify it in yourself when you know you're in it and when you're not?

I think looking at how time passes generally is one of those things in hindsight you can only kind of do. So when you're in it, it's usually hopefully difficult to do. You know, I just think anything that's going to kind of help, I think, match the logical and the creative. If you can find ways to implement both into a single activity, just generally seems to kind of help create this flow or like a back and forth that might even, can be a kind of scribbling. Totally. Because I know when I have it, it's, I can't remember anything I say after.

Yeah, that seems. Rachel, I do that every day. You know, when you're like, she's always like repeated and like, I can't. Oh, right. That to me is flow. Yes. Because when I'm in the flow, it comes out and then she'll be like, okay, what was that again? I'm like, I don't know.

Right. Exactly. No sense of time is. Yeah, totally. It makes recollection tricky. It can, it's actually. one of the hardest parts for psychics, genuine ones, you often report that the past, the present, and the future all feel like one thing. And so it's actually tricky to kind of

determine has this happened yet, as it not. I want to hear more about that because I heard recently someone was saying, and this is just like a theory, but I love to go down the rabbit holes of the theories. And it was saying that when we get intuitive hits that really it's like a future version of us sending signals back, which I was like, ooh, That's fascinating. Like, is there anything to that? There's a theory called retrocausality, and it's this idea that the future creates the past. And I talked about it a little bit in my first book, and it's always been a really fascinating idea because we think of time in such a linear, sequential way.

And I, on some level, believe in some aspect of predetermination. But if retrocausality is real, then it might be pro-determination. it might be somehow the future, you know, hearkening back and maybe changing the past. You know, who's to say? I think it's very tricky to come to any conclusive answer at this time and what we understand about it. But as a psychic, or I suppose as someone who gets an intuitive sense on the trajectory of current events, I really don't find that most of the future is set in stone. It seems kind of fluid.

Like there are many different kind of avenues to the same destination. despite there being some degree of predetermination. So it's kind of that age-old question. What about the multiverse? Wow. Totally could tie into the multiverse theory. And again, there are certain limitations and I ever want to speak out of my willhouse of knowledge.

But, yeah, they certainly think there could be something about, you know, back, and there's this old myth called Indra's net. And it's this idea of essentially like a bunch of dew drops in a spider web. it can be visualized as. And each little do-drop represents a facet of the human experience. And we're all just kind of considered to be this vast hackistry interconnected. And I find that to be true. And however, that ends up equating scientifically, you know, we'll see.

I love that. I feel like I've heard that before. And I think it just creates such a good visual of what it all is, especially if you believe, you know, because I do think everything's connected. And it's surreal to just to see it and to experience it. Like, even like through you with your readings, it's, it's, I think one of the coolest things. And I am such a believer in all of it. And I think that it's just like, I don't understand how anyone could, like, object or, like, not be open.

Because it's like, hello, like, literally. Well, it's all there. It's like mind blowing to me. So it's hard to, it's hard to understand. that all people don't think the same as you, right? But it's also like, how can you deny when the facts are in front of you, right? Yeah.

You know, I think one of the biggest challenges is that it really evades quantification. It's one of those things that very rarely happens under laboratory conditions. There were extensive studies on a dear friend of mine, Yuri Geller, who is one of those interesting mixes of both a magician and a genuine psychic. I've seen him demonstrate mind reading, just extraordinary feats that there's no way he could be tricking his way into.

And equally, he uses his claim of being a magician to kind of help shield himself from being taken too seriously, being looked at too closely for a genuine perspective of, I think, safety personally. So, yeah, all of that to say, you know, there's definitely something to it when it comes to all that. But that's why the telepathy case were cool because they were studying these people. Another thing, gosh, you said something, it'll come back to me. The scientific quantification thing, that's what we're talking about. It's tricky to quantify. And I think a lot of times when people reject it, it's out of fear, right, of the unknown or something that may be their religion told them or whatever. that, oh, this, don't listen to false prophets, but don't, don't listen to false prophets.

You know what I mean? Like, I couldn't agree with that more. But, you know, when you're having these conversations with other mediums, is there something that you look for to confirm it for you? Yeah, I think in the beginning I was looking for, you know, hard evidence. And then as time went on, I just realized that different. people are powerful in different ways. And a lot of the experiences that I left, you know, feeling were unexplained, were equally as objectively amazing as they were subjectively amazing. These people, the few that were really truly incredible were able to impact me in ways

that changed the entire trajectory of my life. I had a woman who was able to electrocute, not I want to say electrocute because that's a means of passing. But she gave me a shock, a very strong jolt on my shoulder, you know, using this form of Korean, uh, healing and it was an experience. She was a makeup artist of mine and she had just done it very impromptu and she didn't have any devices on her or anything that could have caused the jolt. And she demonstrated it with humility as if it were no big deal. I've had people replicate images from thousands of miles away that were sitting on my desk. And the people who did these things were usually people who lived very humble lifestyles. The man who was able to do this,

replicating him in two images from 3,000 miles away perfectly. He's been in and out of homelessness throughout his life. He asked me in exchange for this demonstration to pay for some dog food for his dog. I offered to give him obviously more than that, and he wouldn't take it. So there's something about humility and, I mean, maybe piousness. I don't know if that's the right word, but being able to kind of live in an antistructural way, very rarely do I find bankers with psychic abilities or people who are, You know, to be honest, it's just the weirdest thing.

Very rarely do you get like the materialists also being spiritual just because they seem to kind of repel. Wow. And it's not to say there aren't spiritual bankers, but it's just like, it's a certain mindset that is required. It almost has to be lived in order to kind of fully be embraced. That is so fascinating. I mean, just the level of humility that you keep talking about that a majority, I would say a good majority. as you're saying, like, have if you have this gift of any kind of clairvoyance or whatever. And I just think that that is just, I don't know, it's kind of blowing my mind.

And just thinking about the world today and how everyone is and what things are focused on and what's happening and like just that simple thing. I almost cried about the in and out of homelessness. Yeah. I just wanted food for his dog. Yeah. That's all I wanted. And then you have people like Yuri Geller who are very, you know, socially, very the opposite and very performative.

And yet there seems to be something about using belief as a tool. I think we maybe identify with belief a little too much. We might make belief a little bit too much of our identity. These people seem to be able to use belief as a way, as a means to an end. And I find that so fascinating because it's part of the psychic process. It goes back to charisma and being able to kind of will something into happening, something amazing. ever wanted to do something different with your life path? Like being that this chose you at such a young age, sometimes I see that with people that there's something that they got chosen to versus them choosing when they had the consciousness to do some. When we're in our life path alignment, do you feel it chooses us or we choose it? And have you ever wanted something different? Sure. You know, I've always tried to keep my options open, but this has always been my calling. And one of the greatest quotes that has ever been spoken to me was, your interests are indications of your calling. And I love that. Your interests are indications of your calling. And as a child, it's very tricky sometimes to identify those interests. Sometimes we have a lot of them. And that's why it's so important for the unconditional love of a parent to be able to build up a child's self-esteem so that,

that they can really assess what their interests are because those often are what they're called to do and the difference they're called to make in this world. God, that's so true. That's huge. Yeah, yeah, just like their self-esteem to discover it. Yeah, absolutely. I think one of the greatest gifts you can, I think, give your children is just loving them enough to have confidence in what makes them different. Well, then based on what you're saying, my son Shepard is a dancer, that's for sure. I love it. I love it. And there you go. I mean, there's so many ways that we can help, you know, change things up from how they are.

what if your interests hot? Because like when you're talking, I'm like, well, then dang it, I'm a psychic. Because I'm like, this fascinates me, right? But then when I watch TV shows, I'm obsessed with that. And then when I was watching people bake cake, I'm like, I love eating cake. Like, you know, so it's like, what if your interests truly feel as hot on each topic? What do you do? Totally.

Absolutely. I think that's a gift. They say the jack of all trades. I love jack of all trades. Because I think there's something beautiful about being able to have diversity, variety, and interests. And it helps kind of enrich your inner worlds, which I think make for a better understanding of our outer world and vice versa. I think one of the things with that is like archetypes are really fascinating, a kind of broader conversation. Architects can best be defined as patterns that exist on multiple levels.

And in life, we kind of take on often certain archetypes. And those archetypes often correspond with certain interests. And so, like, the seeker might be an individual who is somebody who finds true genuine fulfillment in every foreign, interesting subject that is, you know, not part of their structure. And they might get life from seeking and from finding fulfillment to the experiences of others. And you see it with, like, travelers and people who are constantly surrounding themselves with other cultures and sometimes even opposing belief systems.

But archetypes, I think we embody them throughout life, probably several, many, you know, even at a given time. But they might inform why we kind of seem to attract certain interests, almost like constellations through the lens of our personality. I love that. Wow. What archetypes are there besides a seeker? Oh, my gosh. You know, the Jungian archetypes are something worth exploring and really, for me, one of the most fascinating subjects. I relate archetypes in my own personal belief to that of actually the Greek gods.

And so for me, for example, I take on when I do readings the role of Hermes. And Hermes, you might know him. He has a little winged helmet and winged little feet. And in the myth and the archetype of Hermes, he's the messenger. He's a psychopathop. He's somebody who is able to deliver messages from the living to the dead and vice versa. And he's also a trickster. He also has a strong sense of humor.

And that's, you know, quality. He also is very much involved in merchants, the protector of trade. It starts sounding a lot like saints, right? And Catholicism. But it's like these archetypes represent these kind of constellations of interests. And in my life, I'm a very Hermes person in that, you know, I have an appreciation for the sacredness and the seriousness of my role. But levity, you know, is a huge necessary component and one I embrace. And so I think we all can look at what archetypes.

we're embodying in our day-to-day life. Yeah, and it sounds like each religion has their own version. Totally. And it can be through the cultural lens of which is familiar to you. I think for me, in my case, it was helpful to kind of actually reclaim some of that power, even around Christianity, something that was, you know, for me, in a lot of respects, kind of tainted early on. I was able to reclaim that and kind of like look at the saints and think, oh, you know,

maybe it's not so literal. Maybe it's more of just a constellation of behaviors. And how do I embody that? And how can that serve me in a practical way in my day-to-day life? I'm thinking of Rachel. And I'm wondering, well, I'm just thinking of what archetype you would be because, like, I 100% feel clear on the seeker. But for Rachel, like, for instance, this morning, you know, at 9 a.m., before having to get ready, she's got three different waffles being made for the girls. And like, literally, I'm like, okay, so what I would nutshell her as.

is a nurture, is someone that's always trying to take care of the people around her. And what kind of archetype would that be? I mean, I think archetypes are just one of those things where, you know, there's established ones and then there's ones that we kind of observe more in our day-to-day life. And, you know, I think it kind of just goes back to like myth and lore and all through the kind of points that we find comfort in. Even like in fairy tales, as odd as that is, there's certain like resonance. You know, and Aesop's fables.

Those are things that were told for a reason, told to children often to dissuade them from naughty behavior. But there's very human lessons in all of that and about, you know, motherhood and childhood and everything. So it's kind of one of those things I think you can only discover in yourself. But like the divine feminine, that's one that's really fascinating to me. You know, certain archetypes of people who have embodied that to their detriment. We think of like Marilyn Monroe, Anna Nicole Smith. There's almost something about that, almost as if that character, when people try to embody it, they almost live by, they die by the story they live by. And that archetypally is often true that the story we live by is a story we go by.

So thinking of it from a more pattern of constellation-oriented thing, it helps. And you can look to myth and to humanity for examples. Right. Has anyone ever come to you to try to see or speak to or. channel, Maryland. You know, that never happened. It's been thrown by me a couple times to tour the house, but it has yet to happen. And at this point, as time goes on, there's fewer and fewer people who had a human living

connection with her. Of course. And so the chances, you know, start kind of minimizing. Oh, wow. Right. It's always possible. Wow. It's such a crazy thing to me, you know.

But, yeah, I think the whole archetype thing is very fascinating. But you're right. You have to discover it on your own and like what speaks to you. But there are so many different examples. And I love that you gave the, even the fairy tales, you know? Totally. Absolutely. And then life, you know, seems to follow that kind of divinity and that we talk about destiny. And it really does. And the lives of successful people often, you see that they feel like one thing got them to the next thing. And it didn't seem accidental. And so it's really cool to wait. And you can also change your archetype, right? Because if you look at someone like Pamela Anderson, like, But trajectory beforehand would have gone in the Maryland category. And it's like she is kind of flipped us on our asses and completely shifted archetypes. Yes. And then some could say it got a more whole appreciation for the divine feminine. You know, it's this idea that like there's shadow sides to every archetype and that it's not to villainize the side of an archetype. But it's more that it just can sometimes lead to more.

destructive results. And so to be able to kind of individuate, Carl Young talked about ourselves and through these archetypes, it gives us a more well-rounded understanding. And so that helps people, I think, you know, kind of discover themselves more deeply, pull from, you know,

the stability that sometimes is necessary through other archetypes. And just finding the inner strength in one's own femininity is really powerful. And it's so beautiful to see how women are able to do that. That's so cool. Do you ever get tired of talking about all this stuff and you just want people to ask your taco bowl order?

You know, gosh, with IBS, it's rough with talking. I'm just kidding. Can you imagine? You know, it's so funny. I am so used to it. I love going deep. And if anything, when people are like, oh, how's the weather? I'm like, it's fine.

I'd rather be silent. You know, I don't mind awkward silences. Yeah, yeah. I'm like, let's just, let's enjoy each other's presents. And people are like, you're weird. I've only known you for 30 seconds. I love it. I love that you're down with an awkward silence.

Like for me, I'm always like trying to fill the space because I'm always like, oh, social anxiety. Me too. I feel it. But if you give people permission, it's a lot easier. How do you do that?

How do you give people permission? You just say, you know, it's all good. Be and be yourself. We don't have to talk. We'll catch up later. Even if you never catch up later. Like, there's, you know,

delivery. It's like bedside manner. Well, there's also certain people you feel more comfortable being silent with, which I think is a good indication. Of course. Yes. So true. And that would be, it would be a little awkward if every, you know, interaction were the silent treatment. I remember when I was young, I used to see like old couples sitting across, not talking, reading the newspaper, and being like, oh, so depressing. They're clearly not in love. You know, and then as I've gotten older, really looking at that as being a winning combination. It's like, no, they're so comfortable that they don't feel the need to fill the space all the time. Yeah.

Yeah, there's playing like feeties underneath the table. Yeah, keeping the intimacy alive. Yeah. Yeah. That's a good point. It is. I am a fan of silence and I love that Olivia and I don't have to talk and be totally comfortable. Or just talk all the time.

Like what's her face in Best and Show? I think it's the great Jennifer Coolidge is like when she's talking about her older husband in it and she's like, we just have the best relationship we could talk or not talk all day. Yes, exactly. And you know what? Jennifer Coolidge, she's a good example of like the divine feminine in a really, really cool, you know, healthy. healthy wife more individuated

yeah I love the defined like my mom would be obsessed with you Tyler like she yeah that is so cool that you're just like no it's it's amazing you're just amazing and it's you know I know you have a long line of people who everyone just

wants to experience you and it's just a testament to how genuine you are and how amazing just as a person. No, I just have to compliment you because it's very special. Well, thank you. Very fortunate to get to experience you and talk to you. Well, both of you, I feel so thankful to get to know you and I'm excited to get to stay in touch and be able to. You have. A hundred percent.

Yes, most people have gotten. And how do people get to you? Because I know you've got, so tell us about you've got your app, right? Is it an, yeah. Sure. Yeah, so through Fireside, I meet with people virtually, and Fireside was started by Mark Cuban and Fallon Fittami a few years ago, and basically it's just like an interactive podcast of sorts where people can participate in like live discussions.

I also do private readings, virtual group readings, the demonstrations. It's all recorded. And it allows people to really kind of like experience readings, if not receive them themselves. So we also get to have wonderful guests like Rachel Bilsson here coming up very soon. I'm very excited.

And how does someone get on that to you? Yeah. You know, the website, I think it's at this point, Tyler Henry Hollywoodmedium.com is where all the information is tour stuff, virtual stuff. I don't want to have to sling everything, but, you know, it's a one-stop place. And yeah, I just feel.

so thankful to be able to enact. And just at the very least, I hope that we're able to contribute to conversations and deeper thinking. That's what it's all about. Have you ever met anyone that's another medium or a supposed medium that tries to like size you up and feels a little like intimidated or jealous? Yeah, all the mediums, they can't stand each other for the most part. And I'm just kidding. Slightly, slightly. But what we, why will say this? I've met pretty much all of them and everyone just works so differently. There's a certain degree of confidence that's required in order to do the job. But then with that, I think humility is equally as important.

And sometimes the confidence in a personality that's required makes some kind of unpleasant to be around. It's kind of like, you know, surgeons? Like, shout out to surgeons. Like, love surgeons, necessary. Like, I've had two brain surgeries. Love a surgeon. Wow.

But, like, they have to have a degree of conviction in what they're doing in order to, you know, have the scalpel in hand. And so it just makes for often very strong personalities that often don't get together well. But if we put them in a room together and Big Brother style it, like, live stream. Can we do that? Can you imagine? That would be hilarious. I know.

Put them, lock them in. Yeah, like medium, large house. Mediums in the big house. That would be fascinating. Wait, you have to do that. I'll give you 20%. We'll lock them in and then just like by the end of it, it'll be like a rat king. They'll have like all collected.

Oh my God. It'd be all of you guys and all of the ghosts. Yeah, exactly. Things with furniture would be levitating. That would actually be such a cool show though because it would be cool to see mediums coming together. And really because the spiritual principle of there's enough pie for everyone, right? Like whatever I do good, someone else does something better. And like can't we work together and do that together?

Totally, and especially in such a sense of position when there isn't a better business bureau for psychics. You know, when I see one psychic succeed, I'm rooting for them. You know, I think it's a good reflection on everybody when someone does well. So I personally, I'm all for if people are productive and demonstrative and have good intentions, you know, that's awesome. And I am not the judge or the end-all be all of what mediumship is. I know we're going to let you go really quick. Like, have you ever had contradicting information where someone's like, I saw a medium and they told me this and you're like, that's not true. Like, I know. Okay.

Totally. Yeah. There's, yeah. And because particularly about the future, we'll have times where trajectory is kind of vary. I think of it kind of almost akin to weather forecasting, not to poopoo away meteorology, but they're like wrong half the time. True. It's kind of like forecasting the sense of based off of the data from the present moment, you can kind of get a sense of like where things are likely to go based off of probability. That's at least how I do my psychic readings. Those probabilities can change based off of what's going on in the present, unknown variables, that kind of thing. So I don't really think it as maybe contradictory as much as just like information changes sometimes.

There of course are times where, yeah, I think it wasn't that, it was that. And then it made more sense. That makes sense. It happens. The last thing I want to ask you really quick, because my mom raised me to, she's like, if you see a ghost, what I'm, she's like, they're not going to do anything to you. They're not going to get you. There's nothing to be afraid of.

I just want to know, can you either debunk that or support that? Yeah. I mean, look, in the literature, particularly on poltergeist, it said that they can be very tricky and kind of violent. There's a, oh, gosh, the bell witch story is one of the scariest, most frightening bone-chilling stories where a ghost kind of maybe might have taken out a person. The bell witch story, fascinating. All that to say, if it does happen, it's probably pretty rare. And I do wonder when it comes to synchronicity, you know, if they can invoke certain

coincidences to happen, you know, where that line is drawn. Equally, it's important to not live life and fear. And if anything, you know, if it were a threat, we would be seeing more deaths be able to be a ghost. and we don't. And so I think if anything, there's more comforting experiences than there are negative. And that's just for me

is more what's worth, I think, finding meaning in. Right. And of course, now I'm going to be like, now I know what I'm doing today. Oh, boy.

Right? Yeah, great. That one, that one was one of the, that could have been one of those cases where something was there and didn't like the dad. No.

In a family. And yeah, it happened. way back in the day. So worth reading. But I can't wait to get to catch up, Rachel. It's going to be wonderful to get to see you on fire. I can't wait.

I'm so, so happy. And thank you so much for talking about. Thank you both. And everything you do. Yeah. Likewise. You're a beautiful human and we adore you. Absolutely.

You are. You're a beautiful person. Thank you both. I appreciate you so much. If either we need anything, you know where to find me. Hello. Hello, people. Hey.

How are we doing? I feel good. today. I feel good. Yeah. Why do we feel so good? The coffee? Coffee's always good.

Is it fall? Fall? You know what makes me happy? I have a street that's like by my house where all the trees change and you feel like you could be on the East Coast. I love it. And it makes me so every day, I'm like, you know what? This is putting me in gratitude.

And I'm so happy. It's the best feeling. And they said that to Briar this morning, driving to school. I was like, you know why your birthday is my favorite time of year? Yes, it's when you were born. That's number one. Yeah. But number two, it's fall.

It's cozy. The trees, look at our trees. They're changing. She's like, yeah, mom. Yeah. Wait, does anyone else have a favorite season other than fall? I feel like it's the go-to. What do you?

What's yours? I see, growing up in the Midwest, I was kind of a spring-summer guy. Oh, you're a springer. The winters are long. The freedom. felt so good of like, this is how long I've been in LA, which is not super long, but long enough for I was like, I'm nostalgic for like, oh, I get to wear shorts. Yeah.

I felt it was like incredible. I was thinking in my head, I bet spring for a lot of people because there are long winters. And growing up in California, we didn't have those winters. So it's a lot different for us. Fall is everything. Yeah. I just wanted to actually be fall because, like, it can't be 90 degrees anymore. No, in the mornings, it's fall.

It is. By afternoon, it's summer. Yep. Yeah. Like, it's like crisp and warm and cold at the same time. It's like a hug. You guys like spiced apple cider? Yep, I was just going to ask.

Yes, I love it. Hot apple cider. Yeah, but I don't like a pumpkin latte. Had one this morning. You like it? I had pumpkin cold for Starbucks. It was all sugary. Is that where I got?

And I was like, you know. It tastes fake. It did taste fake. Yep, it does. I'm a huge pumpkin lover. My daughter for her cookie competition, at school with her friend made these shortbread

with a pumpkin pie filling cookie with whipped cream on top. How were they? They were fucking amazing. From scratch? Yes. From scratch. Okay, so how do you do it?

I've never, Shepard keeps asking me to make a pumpkin pie. I don't know how to do it. It's so easy. It is? Yes. You get the pure pumpkin, like the puread, pure pumpkin.

Okay. A lot of people use Libby's. Do whatever. People have also recommended the 365 organic one. Okay. In the can. Wait, is there a way to do it gluten and dairy-free, though? Yes, there's for sure a recipe for that.

Okay, tell me, how do you do it? Trader Joe's right now has gluten-free pie shells, FYI. This is good news. Yeah, yeah. This is a big deal. It's a big deal. Okay, go. You can look up a vegan version, but usually, usually, I'm remembering.

My wife and I would make a vegan one. It was a huge COVID thing for us where we just kept making pumpkin pies. That's amazing. It was a lot of fun. Yeah. But it's just like. like sweet and condensed milk. I'm a horrible cook and it was like the one thing that I could figure out.

Yeah, eggs. And like it's not a lot and you mix it with the pumpkin. Like it's not. So what would you do? There's definitely an alternative. Okay. Instead of sweet and condensed milk, a thousand percent there's a vegan pumpkin pie. So how do you make a pumpkin pie?

Well, I do like a traditional, right? Like no, I want you to take me through it. Well, I don't have the recipe in front of me and I don't do it enough because it's once a year to like tell you everything in it. But I know that you add that to the, pumpkin, probably vanilla eggs, you know, stuff like that. Nutmeg, maybe. Yeah, you have to do the pumpkin pie spice.

You could either buy that already made or you buy the things individually, which would be like cinnamon, cloves, nutmeg, all spice, and you mix it yourself. Okay. Ginger. And then you just put it in the crust and bake it? Yes. And that's it. Correct.

That's it. You can do it. Okay. You never made pies for Thanksgiving? I've never made a pumpkin pie. That's crazy. What's your go-to pie? And I'm sure we've discussed this, but I'm curious.

I love apple pie. Apple's your go-to? It's my least favorite. Really? Apple pie with ice cream, hitting for me. Hitting. You know. You're so happy.

You're not vegan. The 180 has been so drastic. Wait, Kevin, it's so on. Well, now that you're not vegan. Pie and Burger, their pies. Oh, their pies are amazing. They're blueberry pie. It's in Pasadena.

Great. Okay, cool. They're blueberry pie, which is year-round. So good. Okay? They have seasonal pies in the summer. A little detour tonight. Fresh peach.

Ooh. That's my favorite. That one? Ridiculous. I live for a banana cream pie. Banana cream. I also like a coconut custard. Not that popular.

I like it too. Dupars. I miss Dupas. I miss it. It's still at the grove. I know, but it's not close. In the valley where we grew up. amazing pies. You know, there's this ice cream brand.

I have made a pumpkin pie. I'm sure you have. But you know what's tripping me up is that I have to make it gluten and dairy free and that's what's like getting in my head. You can do it. Get the pie shells from Trader Joe's. I'm sure they're good, the gluten-free ones or other places will have gluten-free options or recipes. No, that's like a really good note. Yeah.

You can just do it. There's an ice cream I've seen that I've never tried and I forget. I want to say it's from New York, but it's a flavor and it has a latticed pie crust on the top of ice cream when you Open the pint. What? Yes. What? We have to look it up and find the name, but I'm dying to try it.

Like that to me. Rachel, that's mold. Oh, pie crust. I'm telling you. Yum. Yeah, sounds like. You guys. I make a good key lime pie.

You do make a good key lime pie. I was tempted to make that for you with your banana pudding for your birthday. I wanted it, but. You did? No. No, no, no, no. No, but isn't that funny? You thought about it.

Of course it is. You didn't even say anything. And in my head, I'm like, you know. She likes it. I would make that for her too because Jeff would like it too. Loves. Yeah, I know. Loves.

But I was craving the banana. Yeah, and I made it. That's the best. I want it right now. Me too is so good. It's so good. I love it. Everyone was really happy, too.

You did made a good choice. And we could stick a candle in the pudding. It worked. Did you know that? You could stick a pan. I never have cake for my birthday. I do not like cake. Interesting.

At all? No. I'm not a cake person. You guys, the other day my brother came out and he's just like, you're going to die. What? What? Because I ate a piece of cheesecake, not a bite, a piece, and then a piece of chocolate cake. And he's like, what is actually wrong with you?

And I'm like so much. But my mom makes this chocolate cake that's so good. But we had bought a piece of cheesecake. From where? Prince Street Pizza. Has a good cheesecake? Has a good cheesecake. This is a good information.

Interesting. It's good. I've been going there recently. In fresh. It's like a good piece of cheesecake. Yeah. It's not like the hidden gem, but that place is. That's next level.

That cheesecake is so good. You know who doesn't have the best cheesecake? Who? Cheesecake Factory. They don't. I've never had it. What? Well, I've never gone there.

As a non-vegan? Yeah, so. All right. Well, I mean. They have fancy cheesecake. They have so many different flavors in cheesecake. But I like a cheesecake just like classic. I went on a date once at the cheesecake factory like 10 years ago.

And the person was like, I'm moving to New York. And I was like, what are we doing? Oh. But. That was her opener? It was like kind of an early in the date reveal. And kind of felt like maybe we shouldn't have scheduled the date. if you're going to be moving.

Yeah. He's like, maybe I shouldn't have bought you Cheesecake Factory Girl because it's expensive. Can we send this back? But yeah, so there's a lot about me that I was like, yeah, let's go to the Cheesecake Factory. I actually love that. I would be way more impressed and into a date

if they were like, yo, I'm taking you the Cheesecake Factory. I would be like, done, where's your bed? My second date with Leah, She pitched Taco Bell, because we were talking about how much Taco Bell rules. And I was like, I would love nothing more to do this, but I wanted to take you to a restaurant. But we will go to Taco Bell soon, I promise. Because it felt like, not that it was a test. She was like, let's get Taco Bell.

And I was like, I really like you. I want to go to, I want to take you to a nice, not even a nice restaurant, but we went to like a Mexican place. But I always think about the Taco Bell pivot. it second day. I like that. I love that. That's like a strong like... No, if some...

If soup plantation still existed and someone came to me and was like, I am taking you to suit plantation, I would be like, fucking give me a ring. Do you know how many guys I could get to take you to soup plantation? No one can. It doesn't exist. I could get you a guy to take you to crack a barrel today. Oh, that too. Yeah.

Oh, 100%. I will marry you. So do you know about what's it called? I know they don't have your life. little blueberry muffins you like, but Do you know? No. They don't have, what?

No. Do you know about, um, what is it called? hometown buffet? No, where they have it in Pittsburgh, Eaton Park. What is that? My sister-in-law was a mascot for Eden Park. What? What?

She dressed up as the cookie. Yeah. Oh my God, that's amazing. I don't know what it is. So Eaton Park is like a little diner, but they have a salad bar. Like sizzler? Yeah, kind of. Yeah.

But like it would be. So when we go to Pittsburgh, I'm always like, let's go to eat in Park and we do like the salad bar. But they have one here. That's so interesting. I don't know it. I saw it for the first time. I was like, they have you eaten Park here? What the hell?

We should go. Well, we're definitely going. Why did you not take me for my birthday? I didn't. Oh, I'm sorry. We went to John and Vinnie's. We did? No.

Did we? Where did we go? Where'd we go? John and Vinny's. Did we? Okay. Had I known. Yeah.

No. Eat in Park. I would have taken you there. I just saw it for the first time. I was like, what is happening? Well, we're going. Nice. But they do have little muffins, I feel like.

Like, soup plantation is what you're saying. There is a soup. There is a plantation dupe. We've talked about this, but it's like way east, L.A., somewhere. I don't know where it is. It's far. But there is a dupe. So this is what I love about my friend Dustin is that he and his friends

We'll go on road trips to all these little places. I need to be on those road trips. Yeah, he's invited to us. Well, we're going. Okay. Dustin, if you're listening, we're coming. Okay. All right, everyone.

Happy fall. Happy fall. Love Tyler. Fall's coming in. Chris, fall's not like your other seasons. Falls coming in like a warm hug. Who's doing? Who is that?

The amazing coming in cutesy, demure. I don't know. Oh, got it. Okay, hi, guys. That was a hate gum podcast.