Brooke and Connor Make A Podcast - Did Influencers Ruin Coachella?
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Yeah.
So that's probably why.
I still feel a little.
little bit just like not there I think maybe because from this weekend I don't know via Coachella
maybe I am I mean I would just kind of want to dive right into that after we yeah well yeah well yeah well
oh my gosh I forgot we were just like sitting here chatting we're just catching up and enjoying some
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But I've always said normalized being a follower, not a leader.
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Woo. Okay. I am just like really just dying me here about your weekend in Coachella because I wasn't I wasn't able to make it to Coachella. Right. Because I had that weekend with my family in Arizona. Which looked phenomenal. Yeah. I mean, if you if you follow me on Instagram, you probably saw like me being absolutely so obnoxious the whole time. I'm not like a tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, tap, type type of Instagram story person.
but there was just so much to be consumed and shared.
And I'd never been to actual Coachella before.
I've gone to like the after parties.
I've gone to like the pre-stuff.
But up until now, I haven't been invited as, you know what?
I'm sorry.
I bought my ticket.
I was not invited.
So I've never been invited to go to one of these.
But a lot of my friends did.
So I was kind of like along for the ride.
But then, I mean, we left Thursday.
We had 10 wristbands on because this year,
so obviously Coachella hasn't happened in two years.
Let me just start with my experience,
and I'll explain the back stuff.
I had fun.
Awesome.
I had fun.
That is great news.
I had a good time, but everything in between,
even looking around, I was like, whoa, like,
I'm almost embarrassed to be here.
Why?
And, like, the scenes.
It was most of the event was people, like,
taking pictures of stuff.
Like, I forgot we were even there to see music.
Yeah, that's, I feel like that's what most events are nowadays.
It's just like taking pictures to be like, here I was.
Right.
I do fear that we have lost the bottle of it, but I have a solution.
And we got a lot of emails about Coachella and everyone's hot take was that it looks like it sucks.
It is fun to a lot of people.
I had, again, I had a lot of fun jumping around in the crowd with my friends.
Obviously, that's a blast.
I had arguably more fun pre-gaming at the house by a pool and Palm Springs with all my
same friends.
But, like, festivals are fun.
And it's so interesting because I feel like.
Yeah, tell me you're the.
Well, I just feel like the wave, Coachella to me is like a very influencer populated event, right?
Yeah.
And I think to everyone.
And, like, the wave of influencers before, like, the current wave, it made it seem like it was the best thing.
in the world and like Coachella was like the event of the year to be at. And most of the people,
like not you and not a few of our friends, but most of the people that I saw online this year
at Coachella were like, I am miserable. I hate it here. Which I'm like, what's what shifted?
Is it the people or is it Coachella or is it? I think maybe just it's hard people like to
complain more now. I don't know. I think there's this there's this wave of we're in like a very much
there's about to be a shift, I believe.
We, like you said, we have too many leaders, not enough followers.
There are too many influencers.
Influencer has, like, lost the meaning.
I think because of TikTok, like, it's just more easy to become one now.
That being said, I think Coachella, like, obviously has not happened in a couple years.
There's probably a lot of turnover at the actual company.
And a lot of people are probably promoted to positions where they've never coordinated anything or, like, planned any of the event before.
and I think it was it was reflective of a shit show like it was crazy I think they oversold on tickets
is my understanding and like a lot of people couldn't get into certain places like if you're buying a
VIP ticket you should you should go in right it was body to body pack right yeah everywhere so it was
just crazy it was a little bit overwhelming my advice I wrote down a bunch of learnings okay
are you able to share them yeah I think one of them is go with a small group and just don't don't
try to hang out. Don't try to see every single person that you know because you waste your time in
between like trying to coordinate me. But that was like my big one. The other ones were like just go
ahead and sneak alcohol in. Right. Even though like we paid so much money to go and like. Are the lines
crazy? Lines are crazy. You don't want to leave the crowd. All that. Everything. You know, they don't really pat
you down at security. We were not dealing with top brass or employee of the month at all at Edgate C3.
Got it.
But anyways, I think, here's my idea.
Here's my takeaway.
I think given what I saw this weekend and given the state of affairs at hand, we need to start considering the fact that Coachella is not a music festival.
I was just about to say no one's talking about the music.
It's a convention.
Uh-huh.
Like these are all, if we're taking it seriously, like influencers are shaping this new creator.
like it's a networking
opportunity yeah this creator
economy they're driving so much
so much money to this thing and to these
brands
they're marketers at the end of the day
they are there's a there's a twist of
like celebrityism
there but like if you look at
any other conventions if you look at like
uh I don't know
CES or like ComplexCon
those are brands paying to be in that space
influencers and people in the industry show up
they walk around they take pictures
they experience brands,
then there's music also.
Uh-huh.
Like my experience was that like,
and especially don't even get me started on Revolve.
And I won't.
But like that's what it is.
Like we shit on it so much,
but I feel like people's expectations
were like, I need Vanessa Hudgens
and her boyfriend
or like all these people to just like show up
and set trends for the summer or something.
When in reality, like we live in a new world.
So, like, it's being shaped.
It's so cringy.
Like, it was almost like, I said convention.
It was the loser convention for the most part.
That's a strong statement.
I said what I said.
I think, I don't know.
I think it was like, it was a little bit hard to watch.
But, like, and then be in it, it was like, whoa, like, what am I doing?
So I posted a TikTok.
You've thought a lot about this.
Yeah, well, I was, I had so much time to think because most of it was just, like, sitting around, like, waiting for a show.
You posted a TikTok.
I posted a TikTok that said trying to figure out if I'm having.
fun, which apparently resonated with a lot of people. Yeah, I saw that did really well.
Congrats. Thanks. But that was genuinely like, when people were like, how was it? Do you have fun?
I was like, yeah, like I had fun. Uh-huh. But not in the areas that I paid to have fun.
Right, right. Interesting. There was a lot of like the Revolve festival, which all these influencers
went to. And that's not part of Coachella.
Like, everyone I talked to, like, I talked to Rame Bader and she's like, I'm not going to,
I'm not going to go into Coachella. Like, I'm just going to go to Revolve. They set up. I can't
imagine how much money they spent. Do you have to have a ticket to Coachella to go to
Revolve test? So it's not associated. Nope. And I was I was listening to another
podcast and they were like, like previously that was an invite only event. So like
the Remy Baders would would get an invite to go because they're
influencers in this in the fashion space. And then this year
they were like if you buy a certain amount of clothes off of Revolve like we'll send
you an invite to be put into a lottery to be drawn to buy a ticket to go. Oh,
you can have the opportunity to purchase. Yeah.
Yeah, and I guess revolves biggest, who just said this?
I just heard someone say this.
Revolve's biggest, they don't drive sales as high during holiday season, which is Q4 of most companies drive the most sales during holiday season because of gifts.
So in like December, like November, December, that's their highest sales period.
This is revolves right now because of festival season.
Got it.
And then I saw someone emailed us also and said like, it sucks how many influencers were doing like the realistic.
Uh, Coachella and like, it was rants and it was complaints and all this stuff. And they're like,
I work a nine to five. Like, I like watching people have fun while I'm at, you know, at home. Like,
I couldn't make it out. It's really expensive. All this stuff. I like to see you having fun.
And then all these like realistic, it sucked. Like I hate it. Like, look at how crabby this is.
Like, wham, wah, wah. Yeah. You know? Poor you. Yeah. A lot of interesting thoughts about how
Coachella was portrayed. You weren't handcuffed to a detain. You were handcuffed to a detain.
country in the desert.
Like you were invited to go
get 10 bags of clothes from like an event.
I did go to an event though.
I went to the Liquid Ivy House and like all of our friends were there.
Cody and Kelsey came and Delaney.
Matt and Patricia and Tristan, everybody came out
and they had Jack Harlow, met Jack Harlow.
You met him?
Yeah, it was only, they capped the event.
I was like, this is so cool.
It was like at this house.
All of the pre and post events are out.
You pass like a literal.
cornfield and then you get to like a little plot of land with like a really nice house and a pool on it and a parking lot and then that's the pre-events that brands set up at and activate at um like in a chamberlain had like a pop-up after the festival one night it was really cool that those parts were really cool i will say just like as somebody who wasn't there just looking at everything on social media i was having this like unique psychological experience of knowing i'd be so miserable and needing to be there
So I don't know what that says about me.
Yeah.
Just, it was like a fo-mo is like clinic.
My fomo is clinical.
I will say.
So like,
but I knew I would hate it.
You would have hated it.
Yeah, I don't like crowds.
Need to be in my bed by 9.30.
PST.
Need my ocean sounds.
Yeah.
Like, don't like loud noises.
Like, I know I'd be miserable, but I, like, I was like, oh, I have to be there.
Right.
I'm going to check my notes because I know that I had one more ground-breaking thought on this.
But, like, there's right ways.
to do it. It's okay to just admit. It was, it was star-studded, the people I was seeing and meeting
that were sitting right next to us. Like I looked around at one point. We kind of like found a little
area and we sat down and it was obviously like as you go to like more famous influencers than
like celebrities are friends with them. And so like people started sitting and I was looking at it.
I was like oh like. And you made an ethically clout chasing post. Well, we actually, yeah, yeah.
For reference, Connor, I don't know if you got, if it was the episode with Britney Brookesky where she coined the term ethical clout jacer in reference to our friend Con over here, which is just the way that Connor in the most ethical of senses is able to connect with these like high profile celebrities and kind of act like he's their best friend, take a picture and then walk away. So you were able to do that with. I was I was with him for like half an hour. Like we were talking before and then I was like chatting with him. KJ.
Appa, sorry.
Yeah.
And then I, like, wait, what am I doing?
And I was like, wait, what am I doing? I walked back.
I was like, can we get a photo real quick?
And just like, because we just chat.
We had waited in line together to get drinks.
So, and he ended up being like a staple piece.
He was everywhere we were.
Like, we turn around.
It was almost like, where's Waldo?
Like, same.
Actually, it kind of looked the same.
Where's Waldo?
Where's K.
Waldo doesn't look anything like KJ.
If KJ. APA put on glasses and a striped shirt, he would be Waldo.
KJ has bright red hair.
Oh, or is that just in reverse?
No, he does.
Yeah.
But Waldo has bright red shirt.
Right, I'm hearing you and also still not a shirt and hair, babe.
They're similar.
Okay.
Oh, so we go see, like, oh, we randomly, like, snuck into artists, which I thought
we were being allowed to go in because we had VIP passes.
And I was spending each of these concerts that we went to see, Disclosure, Flume, Harry.
How was Harry?
Harry was like phenomenal.
Yeah.
Pretty incredible.
But we were, we would walk into the front of the stage and be like touching distance.
Whoa.
Like people could sweat on us.
And I figured out like at the end that it was like, oh, no, that's artist only.
So you're sneaking into a higher tier.
Like you can buy artists.
It's so expensive.
I think it's like 3,500 or 3,600 to buy an artist pass three days.
And that means you can talk to Harry Styles?
No, it means that you have different entrances.
Like for smaller performers, you can go up on the stage and, you know,
stand like horizontal to where they're performing.
But we were like sneaking into that the whole time.
But Saturday night, it was like, we're kind of wrapping up.
Who was Saturday night that played?
Oh, Billy Elish played Saturday night.
And Saturday night is also the night of this quote unquote, very exclusive after party.
And this after party goes till the sun goes up, comes up.
And it's on a plot of land.
It's called Neon Carnival.
Oh.
And this is what I used to come up to go to.
and we wouldn't go to the festival and we'd just go,
it starts at like 10.30 or 11 p.m.
and goes till like 7 a.m.
And they put a Ferris wheel and they have like all these carnival rides
and like games and all this stuff.
But like we go and we're getting ready to leave the festival.
We're going to skip Billy and go to the thing.
So we know that it's going to take a lot of time to get there.
Skipping Billy.
I've seen Billy like twice.
It's really good.
Excuse me. Sorry.
I didn't know that.
And then I'm like walking into the VIP and I'm like,
why are we bumping each other?
What world do we live in?
We're all going to the same place.
No one needs to bump me.
Kind of like getting, standing up at the airport as soon as the plane touches the ground.
We don't need.
You can cut me.
You can drive on the shoulder and cut me off and traveling.
We're going to get there three seconds apart.
Like, I support your mission.
I'm on the same mission.
We're allies here.
Pushing, pass, pushing, pass.
And then I get in and I'm talking to, who is I talking?
Oh, Little Huddy.
And we're chatting.
and someone comes up to me and goes,
Connor, we found your wallet.
And I was like, oh my God.
Oh my God.
Well, like, that's great because I needed it.
My little coin purse.
And then they go, uh, but it's empty.
And I was like, okay.
So like my rose and thorn, my rose would be that they found my wallet.
My thorn would be that it was empty when it arrived.
The bad news was I needed my ID to go to Neon Carnival.
So I ended up paying like $100 to get home, $100 to get to the test.
You didn't go to the test?
I brought my passport.
Oh, you knew.
I knew that I was going to get pickpocketed.
I could just feel it in my bones.
But when everyone was bumping me, I was being pickpocketed.
Oh, okay.
Because they also stole someone in our group's phone, like opened her backpack, stole the phone.
There was apparently like thousands of phones stolen this one.
Wow.
Okay, sounds like a blast.
I'd like to move on because I'm getting upset about not being there even after the pickpocketing story.
So one thing I did need to discuss about Coachella was our good friend, Sally Dar, knit.
an outfit for each day.
So she knit three tops.
And it is really,
I'm really lucky because she is my favorite influencer at this point,
a combination of knitwear and comedy,
what could be better.
I don't know.
And she's also one of my best friends.
So I'm feeling so lucky to just be in her presence all the time.
First outfit was, well,
one of them was Emma approved in reference to Emma Chamberlain,
just being a fashion icon and her approval.
Right.
In this, like, how insane is that?
It's pretty crazy.
And this, I mean, all of her stuff got, like, a lot of trash.
And she also killed it with, like, she must have had an itinerary.
Because I know that she was doing a brand deal.
And then she also had Instagram and TikToks coming out at every moment of the day.
She was just like, she on it.
Killed Coachella.
Like, she was the one that I was, like, checking in with to be like, what Sally did are up to.
Yeah.
I'm just so amazed.
I'm just so amazed.
And then it took one day for her to knit them all.
She was knitting them at the festival.
This is my favorite.
J.C.'s assless chaps.
James Charles.
James commented on it and shared it to his story in reference to James' outfit last year of his assless chaps.
Yeah.
And that was a viral.
And I love Sally Dar didn't have room for James Charles, so she had to put J.C.
So this could also be Jesus Christ's assless chaps.
Oh, that's a good point.
It was Easter weekend.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So there was a lot of, oh, and I love this one.
Her relevant one?
Because she's relevant, and that's what matters at the end of the day.
She's the most relevant person in my life.
Yeah.
And I could not stop talking about her all weekend when I was with my family.
family and every my whole family thinks I have a crush on her which I do because she is just I just like can't say enough good things about Sally Dar in general also what she did at Coachella was incredible and I love you to death Sally Dar you are the love of my life but she stole the show for me personally yeah no like she's been me at my chamberlain in my eyes yeah yeah love her
uh speaking of Emma Chamberlain oh sorry she went she's so I mean yeah fucking cool she is so cool um but you know even cooler huh if she knit her out
You don't know that she didn't.
And then Harry Styles came out.
Oh, Harry Styles was, I mean, you know my opinion on Harry Styles.
I think that we would be friends.
Like, the music was good.
Like, he puts on a good show.
Like, it's, it's Beatles-esque for me.
And I never thought the Beatles are very good.
Okay.
Like, okay.
The Beatles are like the best band in the whole world.
Like, this goes to something that I would like to speak about.
We got in female.
Hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on, hang on.
Hang on, hang on.
Let's circle back on that.
I want to wrap this up.
Okay.
Harry Styles, great show, brought out Shania Twain, which was fucking, she was so good.
Like, she should have headlined.
But that was really cool to see.
And she, like, touched him in a way.
I don't know.
We'll have to find that clip if you're watching on YouTube.
I'm going to put it in there.
She touched him in a way that was so sexual.
Yeah, that's their kind of vibe.
Yeah, but.
Um, his now fiance that you don't want to talk about.
They're not engaged.
Uh, it was, it was mentioned online that Harry Styles was in fact engaged by a very reliable
source.
There's no reliable source that we've seen that said it.
So until there's a reliable source, I will not be speaking about the subject matter.
Okay.
Because there's no reliable source.
No point in spreading false information.
I would never do that.
I will.
They're engaged.
Uh, it's like basically 99% confirmed.
Olivia Wild.
Harry Styles is so wild.
So, so Olivia Wilde this whole situation.
Anyways, he was really good.
It was really fun to watch.
We were with our whole friend group and then we went off to the nylon after party,
like halfway through his set right after Shania.
Can I talk about the thing I was going to talk about?
Yeah, sure, please.
We got an email that was a hot take that if we could pull that up, the basic one.
Oh, and the hot take was being basic is fun.
and this is from Jamie.
Being basic is fun.
I don't understand why people are afraid to admit
that they like things that are basic
because when something is basic,
it just means that a lot of people like it.
And I'm feeling that way
about what you said about Harry Seiles
about like, and the Beatles.
Just like...
I don't dislike them because they're basically...
I don't like the music.
I feel like there's a lot of people,
not talking about you specifically,
that don't like those kinds of things
just because they get a lot of hype.
I like Ed Shearin.
I love Ed Shearin,
and that's what I wanted to discuss as well.
Cool.
I like Ed Shearin.
I told you,
Shape of
I'm in love
Shape of you
was my favorite
song for like
over a year.
Yeah, I just think
there's a big phenomenon
and I'm not targeting you
specifically.
I never would.
You're staring at me.
Well, okay, I'll look over here.
Look over there.
Okay, I'll look over there.
I think there's a big phenomenon
in general of things that just like
are very popular
that people don't like
because they're popular.
Ed Shearing is one.
Again, not targeting you.
You love Ed Shearing your favorite song
of shape of you like you've said.
Yeah, yeah.
Not even targeting you.
I don't dislike these people.
I don't dislike Harry Styles.
I'll sing every word to...
John Green is another person I love
who people just, like, make fun of now
because everyone loved John Green,
and then once he started getting a lot of likes
and a lot of buzz, people started making fun of him.
Who's John Green?
You know John Green, Hank Green's brother
who wrote The Fallen Our Stars.
I don't...
I guess you're speaking of the wrong...
I'm not...
I guess you're barking up the wrong tree over here,
because I don't have...
I'm not yelling at you.
I'm just referencing this hot take
because something you said reminded me of it.
Sure, I think there's a lot of people
that's where the hipster...
Hipsters started.
They were like, oh, I'm just saying, Jamie, I agree with your hot take.
Something you said reminded me of the hot take.
I'm not fighting with you at all.
Well, I think that's why people think Coachella's fun is because it's fun to get dressed up, all funny and goofy and wear a bunch of jewelry and be.
Yeah.
Anyway, Jamie, I agree with you.
That's what I was.
Do you think that was planned?
No.
I don't think that was planned.
I'm scared for him.
I know that his fiance is in the crowd.
I'm gonna fucking kill you dude.
Well, there's, the thing with Harry is there's tier one,
which I've explained before is when your celebrity crush is so strong
that you just like can't consume enough content
and the thought of not being with them is like so crippling.
Sure.
But then there's tier 0.5, which is above tier one,
where you actually can't watch anything because it's too painful.
So I was at a tier point five with Harry at one point in my life
and I don't watch anything Harry Siles related.
I don't watch that.
I'm not listening to the new songs that were leaked.
I'm not watching.
any Coachella content because it's just too painful and I don't want to go back into that.
So I love Harry and I'll listen to his album when it comes out.
But I'm not going out of my way to look at leaked content or look at Coachella stuff because
I don't want to get back into that place.
So that's Tier 0.5 for you.
I have had an I twitch for like a week and it went away for a day.
And then when you're explaining Tier.
Point five, it started again.
It probably, yeah.
Sorry.
Can you see it?
You're getting frustrated with me today.
No.
Oh, happy 420.
Happy 420.
Damn.
Are you observing?
Yeah, I took an edible before this.
Did you actually?
No, you didn't.
I swear you're lying.
No, I did.
Did you really?
Yeah.
Okay.
I didn't.
I took a gummy.
I'm sorry, not an edible.
What's the difference?
I don't know.
I eat it.
I think a gummy is an edible versus gummy that people are like.
Oh, no, I think a gummy isn't edible.
I, you know, I love my gummies.
Yeah.
deeply with all my heart, but I had a horrible experience a few weeks ago.
I had my first greening out experience.
Yeah.
Which was really, really, like, worse than any, like, worse than any, like, drunk blackout
that you can imagine.
Because when you're drunk and you're blacked out, it's like you're not really aware
of, like, how sick you are.
But when you're greening out, you're so hyper-focused on.
Greening out is black, like, you do not remember.
No, I do.
Well, I'll tell you what happened, basically.
So I love taking my little gummies.
They're called Bliss Gummies, and they're just like tiny little five milligram things.
And they put you in like the most amazing headspace.
And you take those too, right?
Yeah.
We take the same ones.
And they're just like lovely and whatever.
And one of those is five milligrams.
But I ran out.
So our friend Patricia had these like ones she had gotten for free at this weed party.
And they were called the Green Hornet.
Very different from Bliss right off to that.
Okay.
Bliss versus Green Hornet.
You know, different kind of vibe there.
And Green Hornet.
with two blisses.
So it was 10 milligrams, and I'm a lightweight when it comes to wheat.
So five kind of puts me on my ass.
So Green Hornet was 10 milligrams and like a blend of two different types of weed, whereas
Bliss was just one.
So I was like, okay, I'll take a full Green Hornet, which is two Blisses.
One Bliss already knocks me on my ass, and this was a blend of different kinds of weed.
Took a full Green Hornet, was watching a movie.
I was watching that movie old, which is when these people go to the beach and they rapidly
age on the beach. And so there was a scene in the movie where this woman or this man had to
reach into this woman's stomach and like pull out a tumor with his bare hands like into her
bloody body. And I on the green hornet felt that happening to my own body. Oh God. And so I was
faced with something's happening to my body. I'm either going to faint, throw up or shit my
pants. And the human body is so amazing and cable of so many things because I was able to do all
three at once.
Wow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
For like 45 minutes while everyone's watching this movie.
I'm in the bathroom alone having the most come to Jesus moment of my life sick as a dog.
Yeah.
And I couldn't even tell anyone like what was happening to me because I couldn't even like pick up my phone to be like I'm someone taking me to the hospital.
And then it.
And that was when our friend Kat was visiting and so she had to drive me home.
Yeah.
But that was like the worst experience of my life.
Yeah.
Truly and I haven't really understandably wanted to
To take a gummy and indulge again
But I think it's 420 I think I will again celebrate
Just not with the Green Hornet
No yeah I think anything with like a Hornet
Yeah just kind of should I mean that's that's a warning label
I just love the jumps to position of like my little sweet little bliss and green hornet
You know it's so funny like I was I was gonna ask you today have you had any experiences
But you really haven't smoked until recently right or like indulged well no actually
my first smoking incident
is Matthew Greg Goebler related
if you can believe it.
I can.
Yeah.
In college, I'm surprised it's not Logan related.
No, it's not.
But in college, my roommate smoked a lot
and I was like, oh my God, weed.
Like, she is so crazy.
Because to me, like, there was no difference
between, like, weed and heroin, like, growing up.
Like, same thing, like, hard drugs.
And so I was like, okay, like, I guess I'll try it.
And this was freshman year of college.
And she had this device.
It was called the volcano.
Yeah.
And basically this bag would fill up with like weed smoke.
And she would like hit the bag.
You know?
And so I was like, okay, I'll hit the bag.
Oh, geez.
But I was hitting it.
But like, I don't, I didn't really know how to breathe in.
So I would do it and be like, wow, I'm stoned off my ass.
No weed is entering my body at all.
And I was doing that for a week.
And then she was like, wait, you're not doing it right.
And this whole week I thought I was a stoner.
And then she was like, you really need to breathe in.
And I was like, oh, okay.
So I took a big.
hit of the volcano.
That'll do it.
Immediate thought I was poisoned.
I was like, please let me call 911 one.
Like, that was laced with fentanyl, your volcano.
And then they were like, no.
And so I had locked myself in the bathroom and was trying to make myself throw up.
And then my roommate who was, my other roommate who was also high and like not
understanding what was happening was banging on the door.
And she was like, please just tell me what's wrong.
Is it because of Matthew?
Is it because of Matthew?
Because at this place in my life, I was so obsessed with Matthew that it was all
consuming tier one.
And she was thinking that I was so upset in the bathroom trying to make myself throw up because
it was distraught over Matthew.
But the reality of the situation was I thought I was poisoned with fentanyl.
So then I never smoked again until you were like, let's do gummies.
And then I became a stoner.
Three sheets of the wind.
Yeah.
I have my history.
My roommate also had a volcano.
And I had this 8 a.m. class for a semester.
And it was intro to creativity in the advertising class.
And I was like, this is so interesting.
insanely stupid that I'm going at A.m.
To learn how to use my
creative side of my brain.
So I would like smoke or like inhale.
I don't know what you call it.
Vap. Because it was a vapor.
A vapor.
Oh.
You know, slap the bag of weed smoke.
Uh-huh.
So anyways, I, uh,
I would smoke.
I had one day where I went to class.
And we had notebooks and we would kind of like,
and I was using one of my like colored pens.
And I was like,
what the fuck?
Like,
I thought I discovered a new color because it had mixed together.
I left class to show my room, walked all the way home, and I was like, guys, like,
I thought it was like a new color.
I don't know what my brain was doing, but like thinking I discovered a new color,
are you needing to leave?
That's my experience, like stupid stuff like that.
And then there was another time when I, like, personified our remote in our house,
like for the TV, and I was like, it's, like, mad at me.
Wow.
Yeah.
Cool stuff.
Yeah, but I used to, in high school, like when I first tried swimming weed, like, I would green
out, like, hit it, remember 10 minutes and then be awake and walking around and, like,
hanging out with my friends and I don't remember doing any of that.
Oh, see, I've never, like, not remembered anything.
For me, the green out was just like, I'm so, so sick.
And it was so, so bad.
And I remember every single moment of my sickness.
Yeah.
And I'll never forget it.
420.
I love for.
But I'll be observing tonight.
in my own way
privately.
Yeah.
And within the safety of your home.
And the safety of my own home.
I was gonna,
I'm gonna make a TikTok about this, I think.
But like, 420's always been special to me.
Because when I was in like seventh grade,
I like went to school and my eyes were so red, like kind of swollen.
And I finally like got to sit at the popular kid's table because they had thought I was stoned.
And you were just exhausted?
No, I was having an.
allergy attack. Oh. It's just a hey Fiva. Did you really take an edible before this podcast? I did.
Okay. Wow. I'm kind of feeling that now. Okay. Yeah. That's awesome. Good for you. We should do a high
episode. Well, here's here's where we're both on the same page. Yeah, I'm down. Um, I want to talk about
really badly. Speaking of high episode, Sean Mendois posted yesterday. The most bizarre notes article on
his, on his, uh, on his Twitter. Okay. And I'm going to read it very quickly.
And by the way, I just want to say last night when I was reading this with a group of people, everyone's like, oh, he's like coming out.
Yes.
Not to make any questions.
Well, you would think notes app is always something pretty serious.
Well, no, when I start reading, sometimes I ask myself what it is I should be doing with my life and what I always hear in return is to tell the truth to be the truth.
I feel like that's a hard thing to do, though.
I'm afraid that if people know and see the truth, they might think less of me.
They might become bored of me.
So in those moments of feeling low, I either put on a show or hide.
The truth in current form is a 23-year-old who constantly feels like he's either flying or drowning.
Maybe that's just what it is to be in your 20s.
I don't know.
Or maybe that's just me.
The truth is I really want to show up in the world as my 100% true, honest, unique self.
I do not care what anyone thinks.
Sometimes I do.
Sometimes I really don't care what people think and I feel free.
Most of the time it's a struggle, though.
That's the truth.
the truth is even though
is even with so much success
I still find it hard to feel like I'm not failing
hyper focus on what I don't have
forgetting to see all that I do
the truth is I'm overwhelmed
and overstimulated LOL
the truth is also that I'm okay
I'm just trying to tell and be the truth
I like to think maybe
me saying this might resonate with some people
yeah thank you Sean
that did resonate thank you so much
Yeah
Fully thought he was coming out
But really what he just wanted to let us know
Is sometimes he gets overwhelmed
And that's okay
Yes
So thank you for the notes app
This really reminded me
I have said this entire notes page
To someone at 2 a.m.
That I've cornered
Because I've had like
10 drinks
And I'm like
No no no no no no no
No no
Sometimes I'm just like
The truth
And like
I am the truth
I want to be the truth
I want to tell the truth.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And someone is doing exactly that.
Right.
Like that's crazy.
Right.
Thank you.
Crazy.
Yeah.
But this really reminded me of, and I'm going to share this story with you, if that's okay.
I went to like a very teeny Quaker school in Pennsylvania.
And Quakerism is a religion.
And it's like, isn't that like Amish?
No.
No, it's not.
But after 14 years of going there, it's still kind of hard for.
me to understand exactly what it is, but my understanding, it's just a religion based off
of like peace and simplicity and whatever. So one of the things about going to a Quaker school is
every Wednesday, once a week, we would sit in silence for an hour. And if someone was moved to
speak, they could stand up and speak. So there was a lot of interesting things that came out.
It was called meeting for worship. And mostly once we got to high school, everybody would
stand up and come out.
Come out as gay. Oh, wow. Yeah. So like kind of once somebody started standing up that you
kind of had questions about, you would know exactly where it was going, usually. And everyone
looked forward to meeting for worships because it was like always like a big event in high school.
And so one day, one of the teachers stood up, Mr. C will call him. And he was married with a wife
and kids. And he stood up and he in the vein of Sean started going off like, I have been keeping
something inside for years and it has been building and everyone is like on the edge of
their seats grabbing everyone because like his kids were at the school too yeah and everyone's
like oh my god mr. C's coming out and he's like this has been so hard for me to say and I am so
nervous and so humbled to be sharing this with you all today please call me Mike so he can't he
was able to come out as Mike as Mike or in Spanish he went on or Miguel or if you
take French class, call me Michelle.
And then, and then sat, and everyone was just like, I bet he got halfway there and he's like,
oh, fuck, no, I can't do this right now.
I am. I am Miguel.
And so that is, that is, that was, Sean's post was giving me major Mr. C vibes.
Like getting halfway there and being like, wait, no, wait, actually.
But I, the thing about Mr. C is like, I, that was his intention was to come out as, as, as, as,
Mr. C. And he knew what he was doing.
He knew exactly what he was doing.
That's wild.
Your Quaker school must have so many stories.
If those walls could talk.
I know. One of my best friends came out.
That's how she came out. Was that a meaning for worship?
Wow.
Yeah.
That's crazy.
Yeah. It was an interesting speech.
But you kind of, and there were sometimes a meaning for, oh, one time in
meaningful worship.
Can you be Jewish in a Quaker school?
Most of us were.
Which is really interesting.
I guess I'm just missing. I also am missing the plot there as well.
An explanation at some point?
I don't.
It's, I think it's just like a not very religious religion.
Like the way that they worship Quakers is by sitting in silence for an hour.
That's a cult, I fear.
Well, every religion is a cult when you look at it.
Sure.
Yeah.
So it was just like one of, like, Quaker schools are very big in Pennsylvania.
Yeah.
And so like the private schools in the area were either like very rigorous college prep or Quaker schools.
So it just happened that a lot of Jews ended up there.
But.
Um, one of the times at Meaning for Worship, one guy in my grade stood up and professed his love for our English teacher, which was so scary. And he wasn't wearing shoes. So it was just like a very alarming. Yeah. And she had to just sit there in silence for the rest of Meaningful worship, knowing that he professed her love. And then we all went to class after that. Maybe we should do one episode that's just Meeting for worship. Meeting for, yeah. Meeting for, yeah. Meeting for worship? Oh, I thought it was meaningful. No, it's meeting for worship. Wow. And we started meeting for worship.
worship in preschool where all the kids were standing up and saying that their pet fishes died.
Okay.
Speaking of Judaism, how does that work with Easter?
Oh yeah.
You were asking me why I was celebrating Easter in a different way.
That's called Passover, which is actually a completely different holiday than Easter.
I'm not sure.
What about Jesus rising out of his tomb and such?
Right.
It has actually nothing to do with Jesus because Jews believe, Jews believe, Jews,
believe in Jesus for sure 100%
Yeah. But I just don't think that we
believe like he's
whatever he is.
Like God's son or whatever.
I know we might even believe that. I'm actually not sure.
I'm not an expert on Judaism at all. But we just
like he's not our like. So what do you do for
Passover? For Passover? Passover
is the celebration. And I'm sorry,
what is passing over? Okay. Is there a star? I forget. No.
Or a bird? Basically what Passover is
is the celebration of the Jews
being freed. Passing from Egypt.
I think so. That was when we were in the desert for years and years because we were leaving Egypt and being freed from Egypt because we were slaves in Egypt. Right. So the Seder, which is the meal that you have during Passover, is representative of all the struggles that we went through. Do you just have one Seder?
Two. There's. How long have you been, how long has Passover been going? How long was it 10 days? I'm feeling a little confused right now. I'm also lost. I think it's, do your best and I'm just going to believe that from now on. I think, I think, I, I think, I, I think, I. I, I think, I. I. I.
I think it's eight days, but then that's throwing me off because Hanukkah's eight days.
So I don't know.
I'm thinking it's 10.
Can anyone Google how long Passover is?
I think it's eight days.
I think it took it.
I know there's two sater.
Moses covered some serious.
Eight days.
It's eight days.
Nice.
And the reason we have matza, Connor, are you familiar with Mata?
I am.
Here's my confusion with Mata.
Okay.
You have Mata because you can't eat bread or gluten, right?
No.
Not at all.
Oh, hell no gluten.
No.
It's not a gluten issue.
Mata has a gluten issue.
has gluten in it. The reason that we have
matza is because when we
were running from
Egypt in the desert, we didn't have time
there was no time for the bread to rise.
So you got the fuck out of there. We were trying
and get the fuck out of there. Exactly. That's what the Torah
says. Get the fuck out of Egypt. And then we didn't
have time for the bread to
rise completely. So
did you take the dough? Yes.
I love eating dough before you put it in the oven.
Oh, I don't know if I've ever done that.
You should try it. I'll get some dough.
But that is why we have...
It's really fascinating the whole thing.
And so we can't really eat anything that's risen.
Do you guys believe that the Moses parted the city?
Oh, wow.
100%.
There's a little bit of crossover and Passover.
I think that it's really the same book and such.
Sure.
It's just a matter of who you're worshipping.
When it comes down to it, I think the Torah is the Bible, too.
The first five books.
I couldn't tell you.
Do you want me to explain a little bit about Christianity?
Christianity at Easter.
Yeah, tell me about.
There's a bunny.
He comes and he shits out a bunch of eggs.
We pick him up and eat some chocolate and then we all go home.
I love religion.
No, Jesus rose on the third day, according to Le Biblé.
And because he was crucified on Good Friday.
And did you know he was Jewish?
I did know that Jesus was a Jew.
Here's my thing with Good Friday.
Okay.
No, it wasn't.
They killed him.
That's not a good, I mean.
What is Good Friday, supposed?
supposed to be celebrating, be him being killed?
Him dying for the sins.
Or sins.
So I guess it's good in the sense that that was a big thing of him to do.
That's huge.
Like, I'll take a bullet for you.
That's like.
I guess put your money where your mouth is.
He did that.
Right.
That's something I would only do for my dog.
So for him to be doing that for a big group of people.
Like a larger group of strangers.
Really.
I can see how that's good.
I can see how that's good.
That's good for us, I guess.
Yes.
I mean, it was really sad.
for a lot of people.
Yeah.
Yeah,
I'm sure.
I'm sure.
But the good news is he's risen.
He's risen indeed.
That's my understanding of Easter.
You're correct.
Yes.
He is risen indeed.
Yes.
So that's amazing news.
Huge for us.
I don't know what it means for you.
I don't either.
And that's what life is.
I'm kind of figuring out what that means to.
The crossover and passover.
Yeah.
So that was a great discussion on religion.
How many days do you have left?
Are you being like good at all of not the eating of the stuff?
No, I don't do it.
You had wine last night.
Right.
You can have wine.
You can have wine on Passover.
It didn't rise.
Yeah.
You didn't need to wait for the wine to rise.
No.
You can have that.
You just can't have like bread and even like corn syrup.
I don't know.
People don't eat things with corn syrup in it.
Did corn?
I don't know about corn rising.
No, I think it's the wheat.
I think it's.
Oh, maybe, Connor.
I think it's wheat.
Yeah.
But there's just like a lot of like things are kosher for Passover.
Meaning there's no weed.
Oh, coach vibes only.
for Passover.
It's different than just Koch.
Oh.
I know.
I know.
I know.
There's a lot happening there.
The meeting of the minds over here.
Yes.
Yes.
There's a lot happening.
But anyway, anyway, I don't know how many days do you have left.
I don't know.
Because I'm not really like observing in the sense that I should be.
But I had a satyr in Arizona with my family, which is why I wasn't at Coachella.
Oh.
Yeah.
Oh, very cool.
Yeah.
That's awesome.
Yeah.
So we had a little outdoor.
Seder with the rattlesnakes.
Sure.
And I'm not understanding, and maybe you can speak to this about, because you were in the
desert for Coachella, my dad moved to Arizona.
So he's still living in Philly, but bought this Arizona house and is going to live there
full time eventually.
But I don't understand why anybody would willingly move to the desert, especially after
we as Jews spent so long trying to get out of it.
I don't know why anyone would want that because you have to close the doors tightly behind
you in this house should the rattlesnakes come into your home.
I can't speak to that.
Imagine living like that every day.
I mean, Texas, we have rattlesnakes and we get
scorpions in our house all the time.
Really?
There's snakes all the time.
I remember walking in the garage as a kid
and like I would be scared because there was always
animals in our garage.
One time I shined, I had my phone with me.
I was like walking in after like a party or something in high school
and I like turned and we have these cubbies before we go in
that we used to put like hockey sticks, tennis rackets,
all this stuff in these cubbies and I turn and there's 10 sets of eyes.
Like glowing at my phone.
Who!
Imagine my surprise.
I turned on the light.
Well, I ran of so far.
And I turned on the light.
And there's a raccoon mom with like seven babies.
Oh.
Well, the eyes.
No, you can't see snake eyes.
Oh.
But like we would get snakes all the time just like in the garage because it's so hot that they come in to cool off.
Do you think if you were bit by a rattlesnake?
I would survive.
You would survive?
I was going to, you think you'd survive?
100%.
Okay.
Yeah, I've seen holes so many times.
Yeah.
And they survived.
Right.
The bite of the...
Right.
It's just so crazy.
What were those lizards just called?
Oh, I'm not familiar with them off the top of my head.
Hang on.
I'm going to keep talking.
I'm going to look up the lizards.
Okay.
Well, I mean, there was a whole protocol there that my dad was telling me about if you get bitten,
they have the anti-venom available for you, and that's just like a...
You just suck it out via your mouth hole.
Your mouth hole.
But that is just so...
Oh, look.
Connor, yellow spotted lizards.
Yellow spotted, is that what they were?
420 is a good time to watch holes.
If I do say so myself.
Yeah.
Yellow spotted lizards.
Ooh, they don't actually exist.
That's good.
Oh.
Okay.
It felt like holes this weekend in Coachella.
It was so windy and dusty.
It felt like that.
You know how you look around and you see all those pictures of people with their like
headscarf tied around their mouth?
And you're like, shut up.
Yeah.
If I didn't have that around my face, I would be, I was dying.
Like my eyes were crusted shut every morning from dirt.
You just go like this and it's all dirt.
My nose, I blow my nose is black from dirt.
Yeah.
I was in the, I was so hot that I was just in the pool and I knit this sweater vest.
That's really nice.
Thank you.
That might be my top.
That might be my number one.
Thank you.
It's a little like, there's a lot of fuzz happening situation because I've been wearing it for five days straight.
But I knit it.
I knit it in the pool this weekend.
That's nice.
Yeah.
But I don't think.
think I'm burning out in terms of knitting a sweater vest every week.
I don't think I'll have one for you next week.
No one's going to hold you too.
Yeah, I know.
I know.
I know. And speaking of clothes, I like your hat.
Oh, this old thing?
Yeah.
I kind of threw it together last minute.
Yeah, my hat. My merch is, by the time this goes live, my merch will be live.
That is really cool, Connor.
I'm really excited.
I'm really excited.
I'm really excited.
It only 17 months.
17 months.
Well, I personally can't wait to wear no vibe checks on Saturday.
hat with my sweater vest. Yeah. And I can say all of our friends have one of your hats. Yeah,
I keep, I keep getting them made and then I people grab them at like festivals. But if anyone's
interested in the hats and I've posted a couple, we have shirts and hoodies coming out too. Um, that is on
fibs.fibs. Fibs.coe on Instagram. Um, I'll, I posted it 40 times on my Instagram story this
weekend, fibs.com on Instagram and I'll do a TikTok about it too. Awesome. I'm really stoked on that.
I'm still for you.
I really want to just quickly mention the fact.
Do you know what's going on with Elon Musk?
No.
Like offering to buy Twitter?
Did we put that in here?
I don't even know if we were going to talk about that.
But just to have it on record that I'm keeping up with this story.
Okay.
Elon Musk offered to buy Twitter for $43 billion.
B, billion.
B for Brooke?
B for Brooke, billion.
And it's like up in the air right now.
but that could really change like the makeup of just the current state of affairs in the world today.
Why the world?
He wants to privatize it for the usage of free speech.
So it'll be a private company because he believes that Twitter is unable to do that because they rely too heavily on ads, like ad revenue.
So if it's a more curated space, obviously more brands want to come in and be represented on the platform as long as no one.
like people that have been banned from the platform before are on it, creating an unsafe space.
And so he's willing to put up the money up front and get investors so that they don't need to depend on brands coming in.
They can let people say whatever they want, which makes me think he's going to invite Donald Trump back on the platform.
Oh, okay.
And like the Joe Rogans to come back on and fire it off.
Well, keep me up, David.
So I will, I will.
Any thoughts on that at all?
Not one.
No?
Nope.
I don't have one thought my brain.
Anyways, I guess we move on to, we really talked up a storm today.
I know, yeah.
There was a lot of stuff in the news, actually, like, the social news.
And the Coach I love it all.
Yeah.
Do you want to touch on Ultimate?
I don't even, like, I don't even need to talk about the Ultimaton that show.
To me, I love reality TV.
That is the one show where I was like, everybody is too off their rockers to find this enjoyable.
I couldn't watch it
I'm back on my train
where I thought it was sad at the end
Oh I just like was like
This is like they just need
They need something else
Besides being filmed on a reality
Nick Lachet is a sadist
Did I say that already?
Okay
Yeah I was like they need help
Instead of being filmed
Did you do your taxes?
Mm-hmm
That was the worst day of my life
To this day worse than my parents' divorce
Really really horrible
I just don't know if I'm gonna be sitting in this
chair in three weeks.
In terms of being arrested?
In terms of, yeah, and them seizing all my assets.
I will say, this was my first year fully paying taxes as like a content creator
influencer.
Last year I was paying for the year that I taught.
So I didn't, I was actually given back money because I made about $6 a year.
And this year did well with brand deals and whatever.
and you get an individual 1099 for each brand deal.
And that is, there's no money being withheld,
which is all stuff that I've learned this weekend.
So no one's withholding your money.
So it all gets taken out at once for taxes.
And that was my entire, that was my entire checking account.
I'm now, I don't even know if I'm going to be able to pay my rent next month.
Because I've given, I've given all my money away.
Scary.
Well, they have a free...
I don't understand how it's legal.
They have free boarding in jail if you want to join me.
I'm terrified myself.
I filed the extension and now I have until October, which means I'll be doing it.
Well, I don't get it because I filed the extension and paid every cent I had at the same time.
So what am I extending?
I'm not giving them any more money.
I don't have it.
They're, I don't, Brooke, I don't know.
I don't know either.
I don't know.
TurboTax.
I did my extension.
on turbotax on turbotax at cocella
turbo tax i'm sitting in the crowd like
i'm looking at james charles ass cheeks and i'm filing for an extension on turbotax
it was just like the most it was the most like
bizarre plane of existence i've ever been on like what am i i'm doing like real
person shit like and i'm at cocella like looking at someone's butt cheeks
but i um think that turbo tax free idea i think turbo tax should have
a revolve fest next year
where you get to sit down with a tax advisor
with a drink
and in your feather crown
or flower crown
and just figure out your taxes
so you can enjoy your weekend and not go to jail.
Well said, Connor. I'm also willing to do
physical labor for just a little bit to
maybe get down my payment on that.
What I will say? I will go to jail
and do some whole style digging
to get out of a little bit of my tax.
It's just really, really,
really, really. And I can't
stressed at enough alarming when you don't know how much it's going to be taken from you and then
all of a sudden and suddenly and all at once you have no money left because I had to go on Monday
scrambling went to Wells Fargo to get a check drained my checking account came out six dollars per
parking couldn't afford it had to charge it to my card a card that's the that's the world we live in
yeah it's really scary but anyway should we get to some emails yeah I just also want to say I don't
know what the hell I'm paying taxes for because I am hitting potholes
right and left. Right. I'm spilling my coffee
on my shirt. What do taxes go
to? Infrastructure? My
ass. You've been shutting down the two lanes
like in my neighborhood. It takes me
20 minutes.
What are we paying for? I don't know what
taxes go towards. The government.
Does that help?
I'm
gonna, I don't know. I'm
in opposition to these people now.
Yeah. I mean, I think.
Didn't you tweet that all your, oh no,
Sally, I tweeted all my friends are becoming Republicans.
Yeah, that was me.
That was me.
I'm...
I literally would always get mad at my dad for saying that he's socially liberal and fiscally conservative.
I would be like, you can't do, you can't be mad at.
I get it.
I get it.
I get it.
I am right there with you now.
Sign me up.
Also, the lack of transparency in the whole situation, what's going on?
I don't, I don't know and I don't think anybody knows.
And I wish that people would talk about it more.
And I wish that we could have been of more help today instead of just complaining.
I will say 100% like get a tax person that you trust like an individual that's for their job.
And if you don't do turbo tax because they dumb it down so much.
Like I'm just clicking buttons.
Like a literal monkey could probably do my taxes.
When they say, did you do this to the best of your ability?
Like you swear to God or you're, I'm like, yes.
I'm like crying.
Yes.
Yes.
I think.
Can you get in trouble even if you do it to the best of your ability and it's still not good enough?
Brooke, I have no idea.
We should bring a tax expert on the show.
Yeah, for sure.
Yeah.
I need someone that's willing to go to jail for me.
Right.
Right.
A fill in.
Yeah.
No, no, no, no, no.
I need someone that's willing to do my taxes and cut some major corners.
Uh-huh.
I know.
It's really bad.
It's really bad because right now I'm doing, I'm working alone right now.
You know, like I don't have any, I don't have a getaway car.
Like I'm not working with a team of people that we're all kind of like, how do we stick it to the man?
Right.
Right.
We're needing some of that energy.
Anyways.
I don't know what I'm going to do.
So the extension for the deadline is October 17th.
Oh my God.
October 17th, which means I'll be doing this on the 15th of October.
That's a day before Zach Efron's birthday.
Go figure.
Yeah.
What do you know?
Like it's all coming together.
Yeah.
Weird how that happens.
I should text him.
Okay.
Oh, I met, I met Benny Drama this weekend.
Oh, I love him.
And he's like, love him.
He's awesome, I love him.
He was so, so freaking nice.
And he goes, you've been cracking me up lately.
I was like, you don't follow me on anything.
So how was I cracking you up?
Maybe he tossed me a, there were so many people I met that were just legit, like TikTokers.
And I'm like, oh, like, hey, like I know that we know who each other are.
And they're like, hey, hey.
I'm like, okay, like, is that what we're doing?
We are TikTokers.
Swallow that pride.
Before I swallow it for you.
Yeah.
I did spit on someone's face.
I gleaked on Zach Bia.
He's a big DJ.
That sounds familiar.
Yeah, he's pretty, like, well-known.
I went up to him because he went to USC, and we have, like, a bunch of mutual friends that are just, like, normal people.
And I go, hey, Zach, gleaked, like, onto his face.
And I was like, maybe he didn't notice.
And then he goes, oh, like, and would not talk to me.
And I was like, okay.
Well, I mean, you can't win them all.
You really can.
Yeah, I know you can.
No one's ever said that you could.
Okay, let's move in.
We've talked up a freaking storm today.
Let's go in.
We have obviously emails today.
We've been getting a lot of emails.
I want a new prompts for this week, so let me noodle on that.
Well, I have thought of one.
Oh, what is it?
I want to hear your most embarrassing moments.
Can we, can we?
Yeah, okay.
I like that.
I was thinking.
Seems like you don't.
I was adding, no, I was adding in a layer to that, but I think,
Okay.
Embarrassing is funny.
I also think like...
Think of yours because I have mine.
Okay, cool.
I guess like most embarrassing.
Yeah.
It can be while you're drinking or on the weekend or something like that too.
I think that that could be...
Or not.
It could just be any time, any day.
Gleaking on Zach Bia was pretty horrible.
Oh, that's your most embarrassing moment.
I'm so jealous.
Imagine someone walking up to you in a crowd of like a place you wouldn't really, like,
people go to not be approached.
His last Instagram is with Drake and I'm pretty sure
Ed Shearhan.
I love Ed.
We've established that.
And I spit on his face.
And I'm telling you right now, if you think that's embarrassing, you've got another thing coming for you next week.
Okay, good to know.
Yeah.
Oh, also, we have a voicemail set up.
So if you, instead of emailing, you want to call us and tell us your hot takes or embarrassing stories or whatever.
With their words, you can call and write this down, 323-379-214.
that's 323
379-2-104
we look forward to hearing from you
now back to the emails
Isabelle wrote in
and she gave us a fuck-marry kill
which is my favorite game
of all time and yes
you know that and I
I take it very seriously
it's like full on like Aristotle
at the round table I think about it
in such depth and I take in
I'm pulling up an email as well
oh okay I factor in every single
possible thing you could factor in
Anyway, Isabel said, fuck Mary Kill.
And I guess you can do this one too, but I feel like it is a little bit more for me.
Crypt finance slash crypto bros, film bros, and Jimbrose.
Go ahead.
So I think I'm going to marry a film bro because I just feel in terms of compatibility.
He's smoking cigarettes every day on the balcony and he has a little ashtray out there.
I mean, better than Jimbrough and finance bro for me.
personally.
Oh yeah.
And he doesn't have to be smoking a cigarette.
For sure he does.
No.
And he wears turtlenex, like totally being totally normal.
No, that is not what. No, not turtlenex.
More like flannel situation.
And he has glasses that aren't even for reading.
No, he doesn't.
They're for reading.
Bro,
you can't make your ideal person that just enjoys film.
I can and I did.
So I'm marrying the film, bro.
You got to go with the stereotype of these people.
My stereotype can be different than your stereotype.
Stereotypes are subjective.
It's not how stereotypes are.
Yes, it is.
Yes it is.
Marrying a film bro.
And what do you know?
Jimbrough would have killed before.
But now I've been enlightened.
Via Egon.
Via Egonx, via Logan.
Fucking the Jimbrough, killing finance, crypto bro.
Interesting.
Yeah.
How about you?
I don't know.
Because I see a lot of myself in these people.
You're there's...
Okay.
Besides going to the gym.
I don't...
You're not a gym bro.
Yeah.
You're not a film, bro.
I enjoy movies.
Your favorite movie is 50 first dates.
So.
It's a great film.
Oh, I'm not disagreeing with you at all in the slightest.
I agree with you.
I just think to be a film, bro.
You need to wear a turtleneck and smoke cigarettes on the balcony with fake glasses.
No, you need to love like, um, like bad movies.
I'm sorry.
Like what?
Like A24 movies, which a lot of people love.
And I get it.
I like the shape of water.
And I like
I don't know
I just feel like the film bros
are like the A24 movies of the world
Which like I get it
Some of them are so cool
Damn did you watch the French dispatch
Just like right over my head
Did you watch French dispatch?
No I didn't
Was that A24?
No it was Thomas Anderson
Wes Anderson
Yeah
No I didn't watch that
Because I can't
I like that
I need heavy plot
I like uh
What's it called when things are
Equal
Equality?
No
Symmetric? I like symmetry.
Okay. In the way it's filmed, like visually. Yeah, I like the symmetry. I like the colors. Does anyone have a cigarette?
Okay, maybe you are a film, bro. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Hot. And then, yeah. Okay. I don't really know the answer because I'm just describing the attributes of all of those.
Your finance slash crypto. No, what the hell? Yes. That's how I would pin what I would. All right. I'm going to just move on. Okay. All right. So Haley spelled H. A.I.
I-L-E-I-G-H.
I have never, nor will I ever be a Swifty, Taylor Swift fan.
Her voice is mediocre, nothing special.
Her songs are only good if you're a 17-year-old girl going through her first breakup.
Not to mention watching her on stage gives me second-hand embarrassment.
I'm sure she's a nice person, and I just think she's overrated and not worth the hype.
Let me know your thoughts.
I've been through a bit of a whirlwind with Taylor Swift myself.
Started off loving her when I was 13 and teardrops on my guitar came out.
I've never related, never even kissed anyone, but also,
never related to anything more than their jobs on my guitar.
Then became her era of like dating Harry Styles when I was like,
you're completely canceled and I'm cutting you out of my life.
And I think a lot of girls went through that because anybody who's dating Harry Styles,
a lot of people can't get on board with.
And I regret that.
But I was, you know, I was emotional at the time.
Right. So didn't like her for a really, really long time, mostly because of that.
And also I was like, eh, I don't think I like her music.
But that was probably tainted with me not liking her because of Harry Styles.
Okay.
Now
I love her
Folklore changed my life
That album
I think it was so brilliant
All too well
Ten Minute version changed my life as well
I like her
Yeah
Is that the only reason you like her?
Yeah
Okay
She's an entrepreneur
I do like
I think her lyrics are genius
Yeah
I don't think she's a country singer
anymore
Is my only thing
But
No
But I think she's a really
Interesting example
Of how we got that
Hot take
Of how people don't like
Basic things
She's been through
like a whole cycle of
she was really like basic to
like at one point and so everyone
stopped liking her but then once
everyone stopped liking her
it became cool to like her again
because everyone stopped liking her so now
everyone likes her again has anyone ever
has anyone that maybe annoys you
or that you don't like in your personal life
liked something and it makes you
dislike thing that everybody
likes yes that's where I'm at
with Taylor yeah because I'm like oh this person
likes I'm absolutely like
sour taste in my mouth.
Yeah, I do understand that.
And I think that's honestly
at the core of the whole basic issue
is like too many people start liking it,
including people that you think are annoying
so you can't like it anymore.
It's the public obsessiveness over the whole thing
where I'm like, that is so bizarre.
I cannot relate to that.
So it makes you want to just avoid it at all cost.
But that being said, like, love story,
I still play at parties when I don't know what to play.
You have never seen a crowd.
Love story is on part.
with like come on i lean i think that
throwbacks should only be should
that's the only thing should be played at parties is throwbacks
you're never going to have a happier crowd yeah
no yeah you're right okay um
i think it's on it's on par with like come on irene and like
i just can't look it's killing me what's that bright side
mr bright side like those are all songs where like
do you know that song is supposedly about matthew gray goobler
I am not even just saying that.
Oh, no, I didn't know that.
That song is supposedly about Matthew Greigbler.
He's the guy that that's about.
He has come on record and said it's not about him,
but there was a whole thing about that being about him.
Bizarre.
Full circle moment.
Yeah, really, truly.
All right, well, that's my answer.
Okay.
I don't dislike her because I like her drive.
I,
what I consider myself a Swifty.
That's an excellent.
question. Maybe at this point, maybe at this point. I'm headed there. Okay. The next album would
make or break that. Right. Okay. Cool. Yeah. So I could circle back on that. Well, good to know.
Yeah. Thanks for the emails. Thank you guys. I, what are we? What's our problem? Looking forward to your
voicemails and looking forward to your most embarrassing stories. I like the voicemails because you can
put your like own voice. We don't know the, the emphases that you're putting on certain things
sometimes, so I'm excited to hear people explain things and their own words.
I am proud of us for neither of us having a serious bowel issue this morning.
Speak for yourself. Thank you.
But I guess we wrap up here.
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And we'll check back in next week and share some embarrassing stories.
Can't wait.
Yeah, I also am feeling that way.
Yeah, feeling like you can't wait.
Yeah.
Me too.
To pee.
Okay.
Okay.
Bye guys.
Bye.
