Brooke and Connor Make A Podcast - Mama’s Home

Episode Date: June 18, 2026

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Wayfair, every style, every home. Okay. Okay. I mean, how do you even like... I mean... We haven't done this in so long. What? We haven't done this in so long.

I know. I think I'm going to dig into my cans. Is that crazy? What do you mean? Look, Izzy got me, look at this box Izzy got me. I did fully forget it was my birthday. When I walked in, I was like, thank you for welcoming me back from tour. I forgot it was also my birthday until I saw the balloon.

But, of course, I have a box of amazing things here from Izzy. Because why would and I are like, she's beyond? Izzy, you are beyond. And she took care of my boys while I was gone the whole time. Izzy, you watched the cats? I did. Wow. Three weeks she watched those boys

I'm feeling like when you haven't seen someone A long time and you get shy a little bit Also I have to I feel weird Also I'm in a space with two Two young men that I've just met today And so I'm also getting to know them Yeah yeah And so I'm feeling a little shy

Have you asked their names? I know Derek and Gabe, yes Derek and Gabe, hi Yes there's nothing like me Derek and Gabe in the room When me and Derek and Gabe walk in the room? There never has been. And I don't know if there will be again, but God, I hope so.

That's all I can say. Anyway, there's cans in here that I was thinking of digging into because I'm nervous to see you again. But I don't know if that would make it worse or not. Oh, my God, Izzy, she got me teals. Did you see I was out? Oh, my God. Relax and relief. Eucalyptus and Spearmint.

I mean, she's freaking amazing. and books and shit like that. But anyway, we can start talking. Okay. Welcome back to Brooke and Connor Make a podcast. Welcome back, Brooke. Thank you for having me. Welcome back.

New York Times best. I haven't talked to you since you went New York Times bestselling. I haven't. I know. I've been completely on the road. I know. It's insane. Congratulations.

Thank you. I feel. I feel like. I feel like I feel like I've lived five lives. And on the other hand, it's like nothing's happened. So it's a weird. It's a weird mix. It'll say.

thinking at some point. How was it? Rose and Thorne of book tour? Good question. I mean, overall, like, if you told me a year ago that I'd be like traveling for three weeks straight, getting up on stage every night, like different city every day, I'd be like very funny. But I learned that I can do really hard things and that's amazing. overall it was like the most positive experience it was so great to see everyone um and i would say i had kind of like a life-changing moment i think in new york and you were there yeah i think my first show was exactly what i needed i you were not back stage when i was refusing to go out right no okay at the beginning of the new york show i was like and this was the first show i was like and this was the

first one this was on Pub Day. I was like, I'm not going out. And I was like truly, there's multiple stages of a panic attack for me, but I was like in the early stages with like extreme opportunity for advancement. Like I felt like it was like it was like about to go into like a real one where like I'm not able to do it. Like I can't breathe or talk or like see. Extreme opportunity for advancement. Yeah. I was in the early stages prognosis grim. Wow. Yeah. And then I was like, I can't go on the stage. Like we've got to call it. And then I got a cup of ice to regulate my body temperature.

And then someone gave me a small fan. And then, you know, you were there. I kind of just walked out and was like, I'm panicking. And then that when that was met with like cheering, like that was kind of a life changing moment for me. in the sense that like wow like and I've told every I told every stop this and I teared up every single time so sorry if y'all have heard this but like it was kind of like oh this like really deep scary thing that I have hated about myself my whole life people are like meeting that with such care and kindness and compassion and that kind of set me on a great

um set me on on the on the right foot for for tour and so I kind of kept thinking about that moment as I navigated those three weeks and every time I felt like I was going down I just you know kind of remembered like that that moment of compassion and and now here we are at the end of it and and it was great the New York show ended up being great I think you know that that energy coming into it ended up turning around wicked witch um and and shit like that so and then we had the release party and we got matching tattoos yeah a lot of people don't know I know. Where's yours?

I got it over my mole. It's on your ankle, right? Yeah, around a mole. I really, like, do regret the mole part. Don't say that. The mole. That's fine. Putting it over the mole.

I was like, this is so classic. I'm doing the tattoo on the mole. And now it looks really. I don't remember the mole. Is it like a freckle? Or, like, more sinister? It's, it's, it's not. symmetrical in shape so that feels sinister and a freckle to me it would be a dot okay and this is a dot

but it does have growth well you can this way at least you can monitor the growth yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but we have we got the tattoo hearts i will say like you had you had started talking before I could get seated. I was with your cousin. Ben? Yes. Hot Ben. Hot Ben.

Did you see Hot Drew? No, was Drew there? Ben's hot brother. Hot Ben's hot brother, hot Drew. I was unable to meet your other hot cousin. No, there's no way you didn't meet Drew. He was next to Ben. I don't know.

Me and Ben are attached to the hip. You know when the boys get together. Yeah. Um, no, they couldn't seat us. Full blown you had started. Everyone's cheering. I'm like, I can't find my seat in the grammar seat. Staff is like, sit the fuck down.

And I'm like, I can't find my seat. Um, we went to, I went to just like take a seat. He's like, get the hell out of that seat. We're sold out. You can't sit there. Get the hell out of that seat. So upstairs in the rafters. I'm making this huge scene.

You were upstairs in the rafters? Just about as, I was in your nosebleed seats. I could, you were a little. I had to, why didn't you tell me? We all were. Everyone was in the nosebleeds? If you can imagine the, the, the, the, the ruckus that Tristan and Channing and Sody were making up in the rafters with me. They were being so crazy.

Was my, were my, what? Was my whole family with you in the rafter? Your family was up like middle row. I noticed them because when the the mediator asked you if you'd rather give someone a blowjob or what I couldn't even remember the next one I looked right at your dad.

Nice. What was it? What was the would you rather for that? I don't remember. I just remember. Blow job. It was like would you rather throw up while giving a blow job or something else? And my answer was to throw up.

So I don't but I don't remember what the other one was. So it must not have been that. that. I just looked right at your dad when she asked. That's a nice moment. Oh my God. Family show.

So you'd fun? I had it was so much fun and the party was perfect. We partied it up. We partied it up. That was like my bat mitzvah to me. Yeah. And you deserve that. I really had a great time at that party.

And every time I looked over, you were talking to my family. Pretty deep in conversation with a different. remember every time. I know. I know. Me and the girls. Oh, I mean, I just love that picture. I think it's you, my mom, mom pop up and sous. Mm-hmm. Yeah. It was so fun. I was sweating like a dog. Was it good to see Susu again? Unbelievable. What was that text that she sent? That you sent us? Can you read it? Yeah, let me go see. She's such an angel. She really is beyond. She, I mean, People were coming up to her and she just, like, couldn't believe it. And she was like just like I felt like a movie star.

And it was really precious. Okay, she said, I texted you at 8.10 this morning. No. Oh, you were amazing. It was like a dream. And I was living pieces of my dreams through you. There are no words to describe all the emotions watching you fulfill yours. It was one of the happiest moments of my life.

Oh, wait, this wasn't it. Oh, was it OMG? I just saw Connor and Henry on the commercial on HG TV channel. I'm freaking out. Tell him movie star. Maybe. That is very sweet. I don't know if you told me that.

Oh, I'm insanely in love with your friend. Wait. Oh, she really, she really let them rip. Here it is. Sorry. This is completely insane. It is refreshing that kids your age can relate to my quirky spiritual side. Thank you and Connor for my moment of my dreams come true.

Brooke, all I can say to you is follow your path and your heart, because that is what is making you such a success. Fucking fire. She's spitting fire. Like she's spitting fire. Yeah, she's amazing. Wow. I love her.

Her birthday's, you know, one day after mine. Yes, I did know that. So when this episode comes out tomorrow. I randomly do know when Susu's birthday is. Yeah. Yeah, that was a movie. Well, you were gone while you were away. Obviously, I had substitutes come in.

Tell me everything. Tell me everything. Like no one understands like what a get it was to get Ray from Frambridge on the podcast. And the way my jaw hit the floorboards when I saw that Ray was under 70. Yeah. You didn't. It's interesting because like I guess you never mentioned his age at all. The way I described him, everybody was under the impression he was an old, old man.

Why did we think that? It must have been something. Wait. Can you explain to what was the first time? What's the first thing you said about right on this podcast? Like where does the lore even begin? I think what I really was taken by was Framebridge itself as a framing store. Exactly.

As an entity. As an entity and how easy it is to get something framed. Because framing something to me, we're going to have like five full episodes about framing. That's fine. Framing something to me is like a very foreign hard concept. like I can't imagine the process. So to me, going and walking in with like a napkin and being like,

it was kind of like a fun challenge. And he was just like there as my guide. And like that was the first interaction I had. So it may have been the frame bridge of it all. And not necessarily. Maybe Ray could have been Rachel, you know, if that's who was my first. Right.

It was the conduit. Yeah. He was my first. Yeah. So. You don't forget. No. There's nothing like the first.

time. Your first. And then, I don't know, there was Laura and then the young woman that you met that dressed up as him for Halloween in Boston. Exactly. And then it was just like a funny thing. And I think, I think, I don't remember. Oh, he pitched coming on the podcast when I went back in.

He's like, I'd love to come on. I have stories. And he shared some stories. He is kind of amazing. Yes. He's got a personality on him. He really did. does.

And he's like seven feet tall. Really? Yeah. You couldn't, I was sitting on a pillow during that episode. He's a, yeah, he, that was a really awesome thing that, that happened. I know. We do, we, we, we, we did, unfortunately really need you to come back from work. Oh my God.

I like, it's funny though, because you also had Julian who I feel like, is it pretty like, when you like add up all the numbers and crunch them and carry the one like it's a pretty similar person to you to me yeah and you guys grew up together in a way yeah yeah degrees apart yeah but he followed me wherever i went yeah once six three steps behind you how many years i think he's three years younger yeah i don't know if it was a freshman senior thing or sophomore senior thing. He came in with nine questions for me that led the whole podcast episode

so it kind of felt like I was just back on his podcast. That's fine. No, it was amazing. Yeah, he knows his shit. No, he was leading the way. Yeah. That's where we differ. Me and Julian.

I know. But he is a natural born leader. No, he's phenomenal. Yeah. And he's doing his new show that's coming out. Might have just come out outside tonight? I mean, he doesn't stop. He's amazing.

I've got a little cough on me today. I'm not sick. Derek, I'm not sick. I'm not sick. Well, congratulations. This is so weird.

Like, I don't, I'm, I'm, like, feeling pressure from Gabe and Derek that, like,

I really want to prove to you guys that we have a good podcast. Yeah. I get where you're coming. Yeah. And, well, we have to catch up.

We have to catch up. Yeah. Um. Do you have any questions? Because for me, I feel like the last three weeks are all one day. Yeah. So it's like I'm having trouble parsing them out.

of course do you want me to go through each stop do you want or is that not helpful um well i guess was there any standout moments like besides obviously new york but standout moment okay new york was a standout moment and then philly was a bit challenging because i had been over served at the at the party which i tried not to be after at the at the after the at the after the New York after party. I had been over served. Oh yeah. So then the next day I was like, shoot.

And Philly was the next day. I know. And Philly was the next day. And Philly was in a really hot church. And so that was hard. Why? I don't know. It was with Barnes & Noble, but everything was off site.

So like I didn't step foot in a bookstore until my second to last stop. Wow. On stop 14. But. Yeah, Philly, I almost, that was really sweat. I was sweaty and sick. But it was great to be home. Hey guys.

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time yes i like go to your party i was also overserved you were over served yeah it's just fine to be it's just like why are you so sorry why are you served why are you served me stop serving me hey look at look hey look at me this is a picture of someone who's been over served underserved her stop starting to think about underserving her so no but if there's a night to be over served well so obviously that happened and then um that was fun i got another tattoo on my back why are you why for why what a cherry oh oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that makes sense um i thought you meant other than that i was like where else did you i got a tattoo oh no no my cherry and then my brother got an octopus which i love i got sorry keep going i interrupted

you no it's okay i got a tattoo on friday of what in tampa of all places um we've so much to catch up so we also have to get to tampa i know i have to like hard to get to the how to how to share that with you in a way that like because every layer is going to uncover a new piece so I got a tattoo of half of a fish

it's ripped in half does someone have the other half of the fish yeah who Maggie and we got it in Tampa a young woman ran out to him

was like do you want to get matching tattoos and I was like we do and she's like no with me and I was like oh no and where is the fish Okay, let me see if I can show it to you

I'm wearing my pants that look like I have a boner, I don't have a boner Yes, I also look like I have one Okay, here we go Wait Can you see it? It's really cool actually I'm gonna try I totally see the tattoo

I'm gonna bring it closer to the camera Which half of the fish is that? I got the head Can you see the head? Yeah, I love that I'm gonna bring it closer It's been ripped in half I'm gonna bring it closer

But I'm not gonna be able to hear you This is so HD Okay Wait Move to your right Or left Up Yes

Awesome Oh my God Wow I can't believe you've matching tattoos With your two With your girl I know isn't that crazy It's amazing So Maggie just has the body of a fish

She has the back end She's got the ass I want to see that too I'll send you a picture of it. And you might be asking, why did you get that? I'm out of breath from trying to show you my tattoo. You might be asking why I got that. Sure.

So we went out in the Everglades on a boat. Like you went out out? 25 miles out. No, I mean, like, were y'all like going out? Like, were you drinking? No. They were just on a boat. Like, I didn't know if it was.

was like going out. Oh like we went out on the Everglades. Like we got all dolled up and went out to a bar on the Everglades. Yeah. No. So the Everglades is like National Park Fives. Totally. Never been to the Everglades.

What I didn't know about the Everglades is that they're all around us. They're so big. So we're in like Fort Lauderdale. That's where I did it. I did, I did eight shows last week. A lot of shows Well it was for the special that we're filming Yeah that's still a lot of shows

Yeah And we went out in the Everglades to go Python hunting Did you film that? Mm-hmm So we'll see that What you are about to see Will blow your socks off of your body So the special was kind of like

What's it called? What is the word I'm looking for it's a specific a sketch a variety it's very unique in a way because like we're going to see more than you just doing stand-up yes but we will see you doing stand-up in addition to these other amazing things yes so the way i'm thinking it's going to go is like how Seinfeld is like it opens every every episode opens with him doing stand-up and then it cuts to like the actual scene of the crime where he wrote that so every day we'd write the stand-up for the night after the experiences that we had had that day.

Whoa. Did you always have experiences worth writing about? Yes. Yes. Oh my God. I needed to leave Florida so bad. I loved it so much, but it was time to go home. But we go on the every way.

Those are my favorite kind of trips, by the way. Where it's just like that's good. Or it's like this was so amazing. It is time to go. Yes. Yes. Like one more day. One more day and yes.

Will ruin my experience. So let's wrap this up. Put a bow on it. Stop serving me. I'm heading home. Yeah. Yeah. So we got in the Everglades and our guide, Eric, was able to hand me a bow and arrow.

Yeah. And I shot a fish out of the water. Okay. And it was. How do you even? That's making me a little upset. Well, it was an invasive species fish. I don't think I can, like, that doesn't bother me.

The invasive. It's not his fault. No, it's not his fault at all, first of all. Or her fault. At all. She, her, invasive. But you do have to eradicate those animals for population control because they offset the natural inhabitants of the Everglades. Put him somewhere else.

Pick him up and put him somewhere else. Put him back where he came from. Well, what if there were? was just like a different like place in the world where we kept all invasive species. Hello, free movie idea. Move all the fish. It's a fish island. Okay.

So I shoot this fish and I reel it in. So the bone arrow is like on like a string. I'm wondering if I spilled something on myself or if that's how this shirt is. Could be a little bit of both. Okay. Can you see it, Derek, from over there? Okay, cool. No, not at all.

So I shoot this fish. I reel it in. I pick it up, and Eric, our guide, says, oh, this is a female. We need to check it for eggs. How do you think he checked it for eggs, Brooke? Like, looked in its area. No, he was able to rip the fish directly in half.

No. With, like, a baguette? Chills. chills. I would have fainted. Yeah, I threw up and he got guts on my linen pants. So. And so that's what your tattoo memorializes? Yes. That's good to have that inked on your skin. Precisely. Yeah. Pith icely. Um, well, is that on film? Yeah. Don't worry. I don't want to see that. I have to fast forward. Don't worry. That's on film. Yeah, it was a, it was a weird week, but wrapped up. And I moved in my apartment yesterday. This is a very transformational time in our lives. Isn't it just? I feel like I'm

transforming. How's the new place? I got bit by a mosquito twice this morning inside. Yeah. I mean, it's summer on the East Coast. Yeah. Yeah. No. Mosquito's on the inside I feel it can be avoided and should and almost makes me question how. Did you ever wear bug spray as a kid? Yes. I never, I was like anti-bug spray. I think it's bad for you and I don't think it works. Oh, I think it works. I just like for whatever reason like couldn't like the the way that it feels on my skin and smells like there's like I would rather be bitten. And I feel like I can't shower it off.

Like it takes me sunscreen is totally fine but bug spray like it stays on me for weeks. They made it illegal. The deeper whatever. That's been illegal. They, they banned that. It's been banned. Amazing. It has to be really, really chemical forward.

I like the smell, I will say. Bug spray. Yeah, it reminds me of being outside around horses and stuff. Bugs spray, like I feel like I can taste it always. It's good. My favorite smell in the world is that pink, is it Coopertown or copper tone? Copper, I think. It's one of those.

that pink sunscreen that sprays, but it's not like a clear spray, it's like a white sunscreen spray. Yes, that but pink, or maybe it's not this brand. This is amazing. I can smell it. This episode? Yeah. It's not this brand. Does anyone know?

Izzy, can you just look up a pink sunscreen spray bottle? It's not this freaking brand. Oh, this has been a joke. Is it pink? Does anyone know what I'm talking about? It's pink and there's like blue letters. I think you dreamed it. I didn't.

This is like my favorite. It's, okay, it's more of that adjacent, but like that pink one to the right, but it's not, it's like more of a, it's spray. Oh, kids, look up kids maybe. Can you? I'm really, I'm having a hard time. Do you know what I'm talking about? Or is it banana boat? I don't think it's banana boat.

unless it's pink you'll get there can so okay I mean this has been okay sorry complete and utter this has been a joke it has been a genuine joke wait I went to Disney on Sunday

Disney World What was that? I enjoyed it Okay Have you been To Disney? Yeah tons of times

Really? Yeah, I grew up going to Florida. That just doesn't seem like... Fort Lauderdales or Orlando's like two hours from where I go. I don't think that I can't picture you in the heat and the lines. I just like really loved it. But I did have, you know, I met Woody and I wasn't, I wasn't comfortable with it. Why? What?

I mean, I was like, it was the talk of the town that I was going, I was meeting Woody. like I was so excited. Like I was meeting my husband. As far as I was concerned, I was like three or four. Like it was going to be the first day of the rest of my life. Imagine the shell shock when he, the size of him was an adult man. Oh, that was upsetting? I thought he was going to be the size he was in the film.

You wanted to marry a toy? I thought he was going to be like, or my height or my size. I feel like you would have been more scared if Woody would have been like the size of a three year old girl. No, I thought he was either going to be the size of a three year old girl or like the size of my Woody's toy. No, he's massive. My Woody toys. So the fact that he was in a grown man's form was unacceptable and we've had to promptly vacate the space. But I love Disney. I feel like we went to Universal more though in Florida. We did both. But I've been to Disney a lot here since I moved here. Yeah, we did Disney in California?

Yeah. Which one? Disneyland. Disneyland. We did every single ride at Universal and we did. Then we crossed, we went to Epcot. Did you have a fast pass? We had Lightning Lane.

You had Lightning Lane. Yeah. What was your favorite ride? The Muppets. What's that one? It used to be Aerospace or Aerosmith. I don't know. I don't really know if I'm making, I don't know if I'm communicating it, right, but.

Oh, the rock and roller coaster. Yeah, the rock and roller coaster. The way I was writing it off in my head, like, oh, the Muppets ride. Yeah, let me get right. Let me get right on that. No, they know how to rock. It kicked my tukas. Oh my God.

No, bro. I was like, I was almost doing like gooning faces. I was crying so hard, like being so crazy. I was like. What was it like? It's just like spins you around. You go up. It's pitch black.

You're like inside and it's pitch black and you're upside down and you're going... Oh, I would have puked. You're going 100 miles an hour. Oh, I would have puked on the Muppets ride. It was so fun. I was laughing like a little baby. That looks fun. I love the hard rock.

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I thought there's going to be like a lot better people watching at Disney, but everyone was well-behaved in their Sunday best. That's great. I would love to go to Harry Potter World in, that's a universal though actually, but I want to go to the Florida one. I realized pretty quickly that Disney is straight is for, I could see being in a really,

really elevating experience for someone that really like, for example, loves Ratatoui, the movie. Like, I am obsessed with Ratatoui, the film. Because, like, we'd go on the rides and I'm like, oh, it's over. And I was kind of confused on what the, like, the ride piece. It's more of like an immersive

ratatouy experience that I didn't necessarily like see for myself. Yeah. Ever as someone who has only seen clips of that movie. You feel like you'd have to be a ratatooy head to appreciate. For sure. I think you definitely like

changed that experience. Yes. Okay. But I feel like you enjoyed the Muppets ride and you're not necessarily a Muppet head. I kind of like fuck with the Muppets. adjacent like from a distance we kind of just respect each other in that way me and the Muppets but yeah I'm not a Muppet head but they really did their big one with that ride now

the Rattitooie ride was kind of utter bullshit why because I don't know we basically just to skip that line we had to go in the single rider lane and so I had to sit with like two random girls on the ratatooie ride and they were ratatooie heads can you imagine I'm just like imagining like people who like maybe listen to this podcast and like get you as a single rider I know like the ratatooie ride

absolute maniac like single rider lane for the ratitude like you have to really really feel passionate I was going to say I feel like like and you can be any age and any gender but like especially as a you know like you know what your old man as a single rider at the ratatooy ride by the way

I still waited in line I waited like 25 minutes for the ratatoo ride to sit with those strangers yeah um and they were really kind of into it so I was like trying to be like oh oh oh you were trying to be like that like oh yeah oh wow I would have loved that yeah oh wow oh wow Oh yeah. Ah. That's good. That's good.

Nice. Very good. Remy. Basically, at one point, I'm about to cry for some reason. Because these girls... So I'm sitting on, like, the right side. And the girl in the middle, basically, like, you're in this, like, essentially, like, a teacup. But I think it's a rat.

I think it's just round for some reason. And it kind of, like, Remy jumps off of the table to escape that evil shit. funny that evil chef yeah but it's on a big screen and like you're like pov remi yeah and so like rami jumps on the table and like the teacup kind of like like like tips a little bit but not a lot not a lot it just dips a little bit and they go nice to me he goes started laughing because we barely we barely tipped like we're not falling out of the table it made me start laughing really hard oh okay Okay, that's it.

That's my whole story. Well, I'm thinking like whenever I'm like doing rides, like I'm really conscious of my reactions and like like when I'm like with my friends. Like I'm like it's like almost like embarrassing to like react when you're on a ride. Like you're trying to play it really cool. Yeah, but there also, it must be something freeing about being a single rider in that capacity or is it worse. Yeah, it was a little bit cathartic. I guess you're right. On the right.

Like here I am. This is every. every real part of me. Yeah. I'm alone. Just letting loose. At the Ratatouille experience, immersive experience.

And I'm me. Take me or leave me. Take me as I am or watch me as I go to the ratitude. Or leave me. This is where I leave you. Single rider lane. Single rider in the lightning lane at the Ratatoui 3D immersive experience.

Take it or leave it. Agreed. The way that these headphones are making you sound, you do sound like a youth pastor. Oh, what about? Just you have like a little bit of it like a crisp echo. Like I'm attending Zoom church. Okay.

I love it though, completely. I also went to a Baptist church. For me, why were they? In Austin. Oh my God. How was Austin? I did not. I only explored one city.

Oh, okay. Which was St. Louis. Why did you pick St. Louis? to explore. Because I could not get access to my hotel room until 3 p.m. and I got there at 930A. My understanding is that that wouldn't be the city to go. Well, the rest I had to stay in my hotel room because like I literally like in between traveling and getting on stage, like I really could only look at a wall. Yeah. But I didn't have the option in St. Louis. So that was hard. I was going to tell, I just remembered the thing that I was going to tell you about your after party.

What? So the next day you had like a brand event with Audible from Amazon. Yes. And 10 a.m. event day after party, it's just just an uphill battle for many. I, you know, my I love Audible. It was the most amazing brunch. I was fighting internal demons. And this is not like, I want to like be so clear about like how amazing this brunch was.

It was amazing. And like I almost, I didn't even want to draw attention to the demons. Because it's like, it was so not reflective of the brunch that they threw. Like I felt horrible to bring the demons into the space. Yeah. But you missed my live reading of Phoebe where the demons were about to come up. Oh no. Out of my mouth.

I mean. So, yeah, you happen to be about running behind. I tried to get there so, so hard. and everyone's like our agent Rebecca's texting me where are you hey where are like very kind but like where are like you have a name name card like there's a seat I'm like I promise you I'm trying to get there so hard and finally I got there I get dropped off at the address that I was texted

I get there and there's a place down the street called Phoebes and I'm like oh my god that's so cool that they would have this the Phoebe event at Phoebes that's so cool so I walk in with my suitcase my my checked bag because that I was without a home as well and so I was living out of my suitcase and I walk and pass them and they're like what are you doing in here and it's the GM and I was like there's an event I'm assuming it's in the back and I'm just trying to get there and she's like there's no event here I was like I promise you there there is though like maybe you didn't read it and I'm like in getting into it she's like you have to leave like we're not open she's like filling out paperwork bar paperwork

right and so that's really embarrassing and i was like forcing my way into the back of this institution that's not even open yet and it was not there it was like i was two blocks away so then i'm walking 100 degrees out pants sweating giant suitcase glasses on and then i made it to your event but what a coincidence feebes for fee that is a coincidence And I got there for And I got there and I was like Obviously completely parched like 99% parched And I like chug this orange juice

Mimosa I'm drunk again I was so mad Yeah I'm jealous I was I was scared to put anything in my system I didn't know that it could have been helpful I just didn't know that that was I didn't even think of that it would be a Mimosa And I literally was like I was about to have panic attack too

I left like pretty much right after you But that was an amazing event It really was Were you there for the video from Dylan No I missed freaking everything Oh that was amazing They surprised me with the video from Dylan Who

It like told me like two weeks ago I don't know time is not making sense to me right now That he was reading Phoebe And started the audiobook And that guy goes through audiobook so quickly I know he's almost, seems to put him in a slumper of some sorts. What do you mean?

He hasn't, he hasn't followed up about it. I texted him like six times like, hey, what part are you at? He didn't reply? No, he did. But he was like still at the beginning. Well, once he was like, he was like, I had to read, I'm in this other series and I'm really enjoying. So reading that.

And then the second time I asked he was like still at the beginning. So it just seems like, he's just kind of, you know, taking his time through it, which is totally fine, but, you know, obviously makes me sweat. Sure. Do you still not know what happens at the end of the book? I'm halfway. No, you don't, you're fine, but like I'm genuinely curious, like, it hasn't been spoiled. No.

Okay. Well, what had happened was when I moved, it got, Phoebe got put into my box, the books. but I just read, I finished another book this weekend. What'd you finish? I read Giovanni's room. I saw a TikTok about that yesterday, about the first sentence. The first sentence of the book was really good. I forget it completely, but it was good.

Was it about jumping out a window or something? You know what? Yeah. And I don't really understand how I keep. I'm getting books. Yeah. I stand at the window of this great house in the south of France as night falls. the night which is leading me to the most terrible morning of my life.

Yep. Okay. Not jumping out, but when I read that, I thought. Kill, killing self. That would be an option. Yeah. I mean, it's just like a tragic, another tragic book. Another horribly tragic, upsetting book in my docket, thanks.

And I'm kind of like into the tragedy of it all. I want to get, because I'm going to, I leave for Europe on Saturday. I need to get two more tragic books. Um, I'm reading yesteryear. I heard about that. Which is kind of like the book right now. And I'm really captivated. Do you know what it's about?

Mm-mm. It's about this like trad wife influencer who. Oh yeah. Gets transported back. And she's actually back in like the 19th century. Like living as she has wanted to live, quote unquote. but I'm not sure like there's obviously something like else going on but I can't pick up on what it is you know how there's like obviously they're building up to some sort of reveal or twist or like

something that's been there all along and like I don't know what where it's going but I'm also worried about how much I'm finding myself kind of like aligning with her inner monologue and she's clearly like she's she's like a villain in her own right so I'm worried about that. But that's interesting. Like I'm sympathizing with her in the way that I sympathize with Joe Goldberg of you when I read those. Like that's good writing is when you're like this person's awful. But like I get what they're saying. Yeah.

Like when Joe was like I had to kill this person, there was no other option. And I'm like, I see, I'm in your head. So I see what I see what you're saying. It's the same with this woman. Yeah. She's like everybody wants what I have and they're just jealous. and I'm just like, I see where you're coming from. But yeah, it's really interesting.

Maybe you could read that with me. Yeah, I'll jump in. And it's also, I think, interesting as to people who have been on her end of the computer of, like, getting these comments. And it's just like, it's just really interesting. I have no idea where it's going. Yeah, I'm curious about if I would like something like that

because I feel like when people are so on the nose with like, Like even TV shows when like the characters are like making a TikTok, I'm like, ugh. No, but she's like, it's far removed enough. Like she's doing like trad wife content and like there's something sinister. Like it's not like your typical influencer. Okay. At all. Like she's some sort of psychopath, but I can't figure it out.

I'm really enjoying it. I forgot. We're 45 minutes in. Oh. But I did forget that I can talk about. Phoebe and Netflix. But I don't even know what to say because it feels anticlimactic

because we're recording this on a Tuesday and I haven't said anything about it yet in real life until tomorrow. So I don't really know what else to say besides just, yeah, that's a thing. Well, what's a thing?

Phoebe's in development at Netflix. And the girl with the biggest mouth that you're looking at and listening to has sat on that for over a year. I do want to. That's what I want to focus on. I do want to say you told me to and you know how hard it's been for me as well to not spill those beans.

That's insane that you did that. Over a year ago, I was like starting to think about leaking it into the microphone when I was like, I have something big. If you go back, I think it was like March of 2025. I was like, I'm about to leak something. Because I thought I was going to be able to talk about it soon. But then they were like, no, we're going to wait until the book comes out. And I was like, I don't think that's going to work at all for a girl like me.

So fun to, so fun to say. Okay, tell them what it means that Phoebe would be in development at Netflix. Because it is confusing if you're not. Can I say that's a great question? And when authors are like, I don't know what's going on when they're like talking about their adaptations, like they're really being genuine. Because like I don't know and I'm scared to ask questions. but like and I don't know what I can and can't say and I also don't know a lot I know that it's in development there's a screenplay in the works it I don't know anything about anything more than that

I don't know anything about casting I will say I'm trying to speak I've spent some time this past year trying to speak less about my crushes that have been also in development should they be cast in this film and I have to be on set and talk to them and I'm just curious about how that's going to go because it's just interesting. Like I'm sure these are three people that if I was not involved with the project, I would be obsessed with these gentlemen that are to be cast. And so the fact that I have to be professional about that is interesting and will be an interesting journey. And I'm looking forward to being professional about that. and all that type of shit and, you know,

just growth and co-workers and stuff like that. So that will be easy for me. Oh my gosh. Congratulations. But yeah, that's crazy. That is actually out of control. But also, like, it doesn't,

again, I don't know how things work, but like this isn't, like, it's not like being filmed. I think like until it starts, like, being filmed, like you don't know if your movie is going to get made. Yeah. So like it's in development, but it's not in production. Does that make sense?

Yeah, well, that's what I was asking about development because development's confusing. A lot of things are always in development. I know. But I think once you make it to production, then it's like, all right, let's go. I hate that word development. It like freaks me out. You know, it looks good from where I'm standing.

People are excited and very hands on. And the team is fabulous. And I'm, you know, deeply in love with everyone involved. And the producer, Elizabeth, is, uh, did the love hypothesis, which you know, that book had me kicking my feet and the nightingale, which is coming out soon. Yeah. So that's great company.

Yeah. And I'm pretty damn excited and look forward to, you know, exploring that piece of my professional career. I think I'll be an executive producer, but I am, I don't know. I think I haven't. That was my understanding, but I haven't seen like the article. talking about it, so I don't know if it's going to say that or if that's still the truth. So I don't know.

But that was my understanding. You'd be a writer, creator. Yeah, like, based on the book by Brooke Averick for sure. And I think that that would make you an executive producer. We'll definitely see. I'd like to be as involved as I possibly can. I know there are a lot of authors that are like, I don't, like, you do that. That's your thing and the book is my thing and I don't need to be involved.

Yeah. I would, you know, I want to be as involved as I can. and shit like that. Just so insane. So insane. And yeah, what I was saying is that, you know, I don't, I'm not comfortable being praised, but I would really like to be praised for not talking about it for. No, it's really crazy.

I think that's the most amazing thing I've ever done. Well done. I did tell people like on the street. Yeah. Like if they were like, hey, I'm excited for your book. And I was like, thank you. Like it's in development of Netflix. Like that was a conversation that was had many times.

Yeah. But not into a microphone. Sure. And that's what matters. Sure. Well done. It's just that sounds like a fakes in it. Oh, I totally agree.

Motion picture. It's a major motion picture. And yeah, I don't know. I don't know a lot. But I know that I'm excited. Let's effing go. Yeah. I will say we can be in it.

That would be amazing. Yeah. Could you imagine? I think that you, there's a kind of like a sleeper hit role. You have not met him yet. A sleeper hit role. He's like one of my favorite characters. I think he would be really phenomenal on that role once you meet him.

Okay, I got to dive back in. All my boxes are still fully packed and not unpacked. I don't know if the audio book if that's easier. I don't know if I can listen. Do you read it to me? I wouldn't. Yeah, I wouldn't. I think I have to read it.

I've already started. I mean, I texted you. I'm going to have to restart the book. I was going to say, because what you read were like, uh, an early, yeah. And I got, I got my six copies. They arrived to my apartment. So. I would start it over if you can, but also, you know, I wouldn't say you have to, have to.

I'm going to. But I think there's going to be a lot of stuff that you, you kind of miss if it's distant in your mind. I'm, I'm going to restart it. But I'm going to restart it. Um, I do also want to say Joe Joe Kiri. I have seen him every day for the past two weeks.

No, no comment. What is going on? No comment. I am. I'm. Yeah, I know, I know. I know you're a professional. He's very talented, actor and musician.

And would I look forward to working with him one day if the possibility presented itself? Of course. Yes, 100%. percent of course hey I that's it what you did that though because I have I have never sought out Joe Keri I have seen him Brooke every day for two weeks and we are making about the location and the coordinates I will tell you I don't want to out him okay the last time I saw him I'm going there because it was like the fourth time and yeah we make we make eye contact and we that's interesting you would be seeing him at this time when I'm kind of like he would be like an amazing fan

past for Phoebe and you know I love the guy's music I've been speaking about that openly it's just all interesting when the pieces come together like that there's nothing on your shirt you know I know you did that so we make eye contact every time and we hold it I wonder if he's still acting actually he is going to be on Broadway I bet that's why he's in New York oh well little little last time I saw him, he was wearing, he was wearing shorts that were so short. I said, there's no way Joe Kerry would be wearing those. And then I'm like, so that- He was in micros? Brooke, like Sophie shorts. Like, was he working out? No, he had a tote bag on. Oh, he was in a tote? No, I think he was like going to the park. I don't know. Wow. Yeah.

What was the material of the shorts? Like nylon. Whoa, what kind of shirt was he wearing? T-shirt. like plain or graphic or what? Like cuffed? Like cuffed or a... Collared? No, like a... It's a different color, like different colored neck.

More of like a color blocking? Yeah. Okay. But I think we're about to break the ice. I do feel like the next time I see him, I'm going to say, stop looking at me. Should we... Do you want a role play? Sure.

Are you him? Ooh, what would you be more comfortable with? Well, I... I feel like... should be you. I feel like I should be me in this. Yeah. Okay.

Okay. Do you want me to be in the micros or no? Yeah. Be in the micros. Okay. And what am I doing? I don't know. Well, we're at a stoplight.

Okay. And I was like, hey man. This is so weird. I feel like I keep running into you. Now does it feel like I'm hitting on him? I don't think that that would be his first thought. Okay. But like, do you think that?

he's picked up on your presence. I guys I like don't expect you to believe me all good totally fine I don't expect you to believe me we're making eye contact like you would make eye contact with someone's someone else's your friend's friend that you've met a couple times and like this you think like he definitely like recognizes you I don't know but I'm saying like if I were like a bit more confident I would definitely say that we had some sort of a connection. I obviously, I'm like, oh, that's Joe Kerry.

But I don't think he's like, oh, that's the, I think it's probably maybe at most. He's maybe like seen like a clip or something. Right. I'd love to have him on the podcast. I had something really. The name of professionalism, I will skip that day. And the name of Jesus Christ. I was trying to unpack my bags.

I was kind of. Wait, we're not done. We're not done. Oh, okay. Yeah, sorry. start over. I'm Joe Kerry and my micro is at a stoplight. Okay. Am I breaking the ice?

Yes. Yeah, he's not going to say anything. Hey, man. Hey, man. Hey. Go next. Yup. All right. See around. And I will. You need an opening line, hook, line, and sinker. There's just no way to approach it without me being like.

I think you can be like I've been seeing you. I see you every day. Brooke, that is like, he's like a very famous person. I'm not going to say, I see you every day. Because, yeah, well, you need to work. He could be, he could be, like, high or something and maybe, like, smoking, like, off of, like, THC and could be just, like, maybe a lingering eye, you know, like. Wait, why is he off the THC? Like, maybe that's why he's staring at me. Oh.

Okay. Well, I mean, I'm pretty confident that like when it comes down to it, like you'll know exactly what to say. Because you always do. Yeah. I mean, there's so much to talk about right now in New York. Yeah. If you, you should. Maybe you could be like, hey, I'm listening to you right now and then show him your phone.

That's like fan vibes though. Okay. What do you? I will keep thinking on it. Yeah. What do you, what do you got going on the rest of the day? That's good. That's like hitting on him again.

I don't think that. I don't think so. What do you got going on the rest of the day? If I come up to you, it's just a question. But that's not a question for a stranger. Yeah, you need to, I'm telling you,

you need us something to break the ice. Well, okay, imagine someone coming up to you. And you don't like being approached, you know, like imagine, imagine a stranger comes up to you. What would you want them to say? I know I'm trying to. I like when people say something really, really specific

instead of just like more small talk. Sure. So or maybe like a targeted question so I have something specific to answer and say. Okay. So yeah, maybe we can think of a targeted question. Where did you get those shorts? I was going to say, like, could we do, do we want to do an outfit-based question or what?

I think that that's a, that's a high compliment for me. Okay. I really like the fit of those pants. Yeah. Okay. I'll do, I'll do clothes. We can, yeah, let's go with a question. The way I promise you I'm going to see him this afternoon.

I see him every day. If, if you guys strike up a genuine, like, connection, like, you have got to include me on in this one. You just have to. I will. Do you know I've had nightmares about you going out with the off-campus boys? Actual nightmares where I wake up in a cold sweat. It's going to happen. The one of them is very, very, the one that you like is very close.

Belmont? No, not him. Antonio? He was with Dylan. What do you mean? They were on, they were with like Tag Heuer or something in Monaco, I think, on a boat together. Dylan and Sebastian. What's his name?

Antonio? Well, he's like, his Broadway lore is what's pulling me in beyond belief. I'm going to look into that because that's not something that I saw. I could be wrong. You might be. That doesn't make sense to me right off the bat, but I'm going to look into it. Dylan posted. Right now?

No. It's already on his speed. Yeah. Okay. What did you think of? that video of the main dude dancing with the kidleroy that's a really good question because it's pretty controversial i love him sure i love when he dances and moves his body i loved him dancing i love i love everything about him the only thing that gives me pause is the lifting the shirt up okay

who was that oh that's not the one i like at all connor oh my gosh be nice I'm not saying I don't like him, but it's not the one that I'm talking about. Even a little bit. Okay. Jesus. Yeah, that's Josh something. Josh H. Hutchison.

But good try. That could have been scary. I was unpacking. I was trying to start unpacking my boxes in my house last night. And I kind of like stumbled and I tripped and I fell on. I tripped over a box. I twaked my knee and I just laid on the ground for a little bit. That's fine.

It was really, it was really. How unpacked are you? No. Okay. I'm not. I'm genuinely, my house is probably in the same boat as yours right now. I hope,

I hope, um, I wish I could. I wish me on. Sorry. I wish I could put all of my belongings in a bonfire and start over. Extreme home makeover vibes. Yeah, like donate every.

single thing I own and I get to start over please yeah um totally aligned my backyard is really nice it's unbelievable are you going to like get it like professionally I think I have to bring in a backyardified I think I have to bring in a professional to tidy it up because I was getting I put it on my close friends and I was getting a lot of comments that were like hey so that looks like that looks like like an alley you know no it's like i such an insanely amazing space to have in new york it's like scary looking right now but like the potential is out of this world it's terrifying looking right now yeah but the potential is out of this world there's a lot of potential and you know i love potential god i love potential um okay i really want to one box this izzie box okay but i think we can do that in the

bonus oh we'll do that in the bonus and i will see you there What an amazing episode this has been. Are you being serious or sarcastic? Yeah. Well, I feel like, no, I'm being, that was genuine. And I'm sorry about my delivery because I was being serious. I was just saying like, we caught up. You announced your book or your movie.

45 minutes in. Well, that'll be for the real ones that stuck around after we talked about bug sprays and sunscreen for 12 minutes. I feel like I didn't do it justice because like I'm sorry. I could, I'll talk about it more. But I also like don't know anything. So anyway. It's a big announcement.

I think however it came out authentically is the best way to do it. I just feel like I was sitting out in a year and like best I could do was 45 in. I'll be better. I'll do something maybe like by the time this has aired like I will have done an amazing sort of announcement on another platform. Sure. But this is my favorite platform here with you. Same. So.

Do you want to hear something funny? Yeah. Yesterday. I was going to go get pokey. And I ordered it from the person and I said, can I get the Tucaponet? So they mixed up the words. And with that,

congrats on your announcements. I got Tukapone yesterday and we'll let you guys go and we'll see you in the boat. Congrats to you on everything. Let's go. Tucapone.