Brooke and Connor Make A Podcast - Never Trust A Traitor

Episode Date: March 5, 2026

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210. This is the 210th. Never before in all of the 209 episodes we've recorded, have I had more that I need to speak about. Okay. That's awesome. In addition to that, I have a huge list too. I feel stressed about that. Don't worry about it, baby.

Baby. Baby, come on now. Baby, I feel really stressed today. Don't feel stress in my arms. Come on. Come on. Give it to me good. Hit me with what you got right now.

Let's bullet fire it off. Come on, start right now. I need you to pack it up real tight and I need you to tape it up. Do not tell me to pack it up tight. I need you to send it out and through it up. Oh, cool. I have to tell you something. What?

I want to give you advice. What? Learn from me. I know I'm not looking for advice. Thank you, though. I need. This is a. I need you to heed.

What? It's more of a warning I need you to heed. Is it personal for me or can apply to everyone? It could happen to you. I'm not looking for personal advice right now. I appreciate you though. Don't worry. I'm just, this, this is personal advice.

Like, this is something that can happen. When you wake up and you feel congested. Oh, okay. No matter how. Connor, I woke up feeling really weirdly congested in one nostril. Brooke, and this is why I want you. you to heed this. And I had forgotten about it. I want you to brought that up. How weird? My mom always says

like you need to get on something right now to get the congestion out of your body so that because if it sits there and lives and lives in you for a while, this is why Mucinex is so important. It will make itself at home. That's what the Mucin X monster was so comfortable living there and he had two kids and they were going off to school. They were full blown active members of their community. right in the chest. Yeah. And then there's an infection that comes right behind them.

So you have to evict them. You have to be the landlord of your lungs. And you have to say, rent is going up. Find your way out. Up through my boobs and out my tubes. Can I make a prediction? Yeah.

You are not the landlord of your lungs right now. You have a tenant. You can hear it. You can hear it. I sound like booby the clown, you know. You have a, not a tenant, um, squatter. I have a squatter.

Yeah. And I'm, yeah, you know, you got to, you got to abide by the law of the land. That's my bad. I should have done this a week ago. But I didn't.

And this morning, empty stomach. I'm heading out to this thing this morning. I have two coffees. I take a mucinex. Let me tell you. Been there, my brother. Let me tell you.

If you want to be the weirdest person in the room, take a muconix on an empty stomach and have two. coffees. Oh, were you not puky? I guess it's not a zinc base. No, I'm serious when I say that I do think that there's a little bit of meth or something in Mucinex. Okay.

Yeah, I mean, there isn't Sudafed. Brooke, I was being such a freak and it was weird to be aware that you're being a freak. You know? I was like, I would have a very normal interaction, but then I wouldn't stop there. And this was across the board.

Like it was like I'm trying to think of one specific I was talking with Reese Feldman this morning Love Like love of my life You know he's just such a special Like a special man Do you know the video of Zendaya

And she's sitting there with Tom Hall And she's like And he laughs at first And then she does it again Yeah He doesn't see so she overdoes it That's how I was being with No it's like I say something

It's funny Oh it's not great going. Okay. And then this person, someone's not listening and I'm like, I say it again. They're like, no, I heard you. Yeah. That's kind of where I'm at.

So like right now I'm still experiencing it. I'm trying to get like as much nutrients in my body to offset the, the musy as possible. But it's from my head's at. Understood. Thank you for letting me know where your head is at. My head is at in the space that there is an announcement coming out today in the form of Call or Daddy episode. Yeah.

With Sarah J. Mass. And we are getting probably the next acut. installment. And so that could be happening like right now and I'm not on my phone and I just don't know. And so I'm shaking. And apparently some sleuths have discovered that there might be three books being announced. I think you don't go, you don't go, you don't seek out Alex Cooper unless you have a trilogy.

I feel like I could fly. I am so excited. I just don't know what she's going to say. I'm being fed. You are. I am being fed. I've got this. You know the book I love about the monster that's a bellhop?

Mm-hmm. That author just posted a story that he's working on a third one of those. Good. What else is? Something else is happening too. I saw you post something else. I keep posting. I can't stop posting.

It's just hit after hit after hit. Brooke, I know. Connor. Like, no, something happened where Snapchat like subscribed me to you and I'm like, she's like one of my, she's in my list, you know? Like I talk, yeah, every one of your stories I get as an alert on my phone. That's, okay. That's, I don't know how that's happening because I'm also getting alerts that I did not

subscribe to. No, and it's like, broke Averick. Yeah, I'm in bed again, so what? Snapchat is my diary. All good, man. Yeah, Snapchat is my diary. I'm obviously a fan of yours, but like, Samh doesn't know that.

Appreciate it. Oh, Rob, um, Rosh doing Quinn. Yeah. That's crazy. It's just like, I'm getting so much content. His little promo was funny too. He's like, and this young man kind of shows up and he's, uh, He's going to give her a hand, maybe two hands, maybe his penis.

I'm, I've bottomed out on all of his snake content. Went on my back to the beginning. You bottomed out? Yeah. By bottom out, I mean went back to the bottom of his feed. Okay. Yeah. That's important for people, maybe listening for the first time.

Yeah. My life has completely been changed since the last time I saw you because I found out how to open my creative third eye. Let me let a bitch know how to do that, please. I'd really like that. Connor, first thing you do when you wake up, get your coffee, sit down. I want you to write three pages stream of consciousness.

They're called morning pages. Okay? You know the artist's way. Yep. That's like the biggest part of the artist's way is just every morning, start by writing. Can I ask you something? You may.

Isn't artist's way like clowned on? in the creative community as being like rich dad, poor dad bullshit? I'm actually really not sure and I'm not doing the whole. It's like a full 12th week program that I'm not doing. I'm just taking the morning pages aspect. And when I tell you I am finally like now, you know, able to write like I used to with Phoebe. After I do those three morning pages, I opened my eye. all by just writing three pages in the morning.

It doesn't take long. It's not a big thing. Such a little thing you can do. You can literally just write like I slept poorly last night. Like I'm hungry. There's like a journal thing? Yeah. It's just stream of consciousness.

And you'd be surprised at what comes out. I unlocked one major epiphany the other day. Whoa. Yeah. Okay. Now that's a third eye. Yeah. Now I sat down the other day to,

I got two things for you. Please give them to me. Okay, I'll give them to you. Are you willing to receive? Always. Wow, I sound like a little hungry little pig. I'm breathing so hard on the mic for my congestion. It's okay.

We know you're not the landlord. I'm just like, it's out of my control. She's out of my hands. Okay. So, I go to the coffee shop. I said, I'll start with. And this is like without you telling me that. We are synced up today.

I feel not. I need you to have lunch and then take a mucinex. You can get ahead of it. Do not become this. So I go, I'm going to go to the shop. I'm going to take out my pad. I'm going to write a gratitude journal before I began as a warm up. And as I sit, lo and behold, and this won't surprise you at all,

although this was not a promise that I made to you. I made a very specific promise to you. Craw-trips out of my pants. Yep. And I'm talking cords. I'm talking corduroys. Yep. Well, gratitude journaling,

which makes you kind of reconsider any sort of gratitude you'd have for your life. Why are you investing in just like really cheap pants? No, they're from Madewell. You know Made well quality is pretty good. It's just your ass is so fat. No, well, I wish it was like a positive connotation thing. I do think that like don't think like I'm not really doing anything to have a,

have a positive body change. Did you try spreading a little less? I'm running a little less. Yeah. It's so cold. Nope. I said try spreading a little bit less like your, your legs. Yeah, I could.

I mean, I was sitting on a bar stool. I wasn't really spreading. It's except for balance. Yeah. And you were, you were not wearing your panties. I was I am yeah I'm wearing underwear great I'm wearing skims oh yay yeah I'll even and these are the pants no the pants I'm not wearing okay this was not this was not today this was two days ago now I'm sitting there I'm like I'm already at the coffee shop so I'm gonna stay here with my with this new extended

pair of pants offers me a little bit more flexibility here in the parcel and I'm I'm I get a chicken salad salad. I didn't realize it was going to be chicken salad. I just ordered chicken on my kale Caesar. It's chicken salad, which was a nice surprise. I was going to say to me, that would be an extremely pleasant surprise. And it spread very easily across the whole bowl. It had a good spread fact. I love that. Chicken salad has that, you know? They don't have chicken salad in Los Angeles. Not good. But doesn't Jones on 3rd have chicken salad? I think they have a curry chicken salad and I don't like curry. I love curry. I know.

So anyways, I take, I take a, I'm eating this chicken salad. The thing about chicken salad is like, you got to make sure you get the whole fork in your mouth and don't get too confident. So I didn't get it. I missed my mouth twice. Okay. There's a young man that was on a Zoom call. He's taking a Zoom call to coffee shop, which like I have qualms about. I understand that sometimes you, it makes sense.

You're going to be working there all day. You have to take one quick Zoom call. The whole time I was there, he was taking a Zoom call. Yeah, I don't subscribe to that. And he's sitting really, he was, I think he was a little bit peeved that I had, had to choose the seat next to him. So he left his tote bag just like really close to my stool. So every time I'd get down to pee or something like my foot would get stuck in his tote, like in the arm. And I'm like, oh, like, sorry, I got it. My foot's in your toe.

Oopie. Ooh, I'm just going to squeeze by. Hey, your tote was in your foot. Brooke. Like, I'm not 100% positive, but like I totally am because I saw. I missed my mouth one time with this huge chunk of chicken salad. Flew into the tote. It's in the bottom of his toats, probably still.

It went splat. Yeah. Like definitely because it was not like a viscosity of the salad was not too much. Week two of viscosity. What? Week two of viscosity. Oh, yeah. I mean, it was clumpy, you know?

So to bring it back to the clumps, as we always do, it's, it had a clump factor. that was really heavy. So he's, I'm thinking about this young man, but he was on a call. I had, my tubes were tied. I really couldn't have let him know

that there would be something waiting for him at home. Yeah. It sounds like a him problem. I mean, he had it coming, but it wasn't something that I shot out to do to him. It's something that happened to him

because of the grace of God. And it's an intention versus impact type of situation. Brooke, well said. Although I think that's, that is in defense of him, which I don't want to do. I'm trying to defend you. I mean, he wasn't intentionally, I'm going to give him a benefit of the doubt because he didn't even make eye contact with me.

Okay. But it's like control your toe. You know, keep an eye on your kid. Keep an eye on your tote. If your tote bag sits wide open, what could fall in? You'll never know. You might be susceptible to a clump of chicken salad. Depending where you are?

It's a risk of of toting. Speaking of toads, check this out. Hit me with that base. It's my supply bag. Whoa. You see my pens? Wow, you're really living like the Phoebe dream. I know.

I'm morphing into the girl. But I can fit up to like seven journals in here and my laptop and my two little printers. It is a full Mary Poppins bag and my two sticker books. It's the Sula for anyone wondering. The Zula Sula Isn't that the woman that helps you give birth In a tub at home?

That's a doula That is exactly what you said now I'm talking about the Sula Oh Yeah So that's what that's Oh and there's the Sula pouch But I have a different kind of pouch

That's a need for that That I put my washi tapes And scissors and stuff in Thank you Yeah that's the Sula Anyway Nice you ready to hit for me to hit you with two pretty severe things yeah something pretty severe

happened to me yesterday first thing this is number severe thing number one okay um for it will henceforth to us and the community be known as actually no i don't want to call it that because i think that's actually something already but let's just say it's not good okay i get it a text yesterday. Okay. Yeah. Hi, Brooke. We have such an exciting opportunity for you. Would you want to get on a plane tomorrow? So that would be today, Wednesday. Yeah. And fly to Manchester, England to see the one night and one night only Harry Stiles concert. Netflix will fly you out, everything like that. Wow. Do I want to do? Do I want to do? do that?

587.8% rounded up. Yes, I want to do that. Here are the two roadblocks that I faced. There's two? Mm-hmm. Cats. No, not even that. One.

Me. Nope, not even you. Oh, come on, man. One. I could have figured out the cats. I could have figured out the podcast. First roadblock was Sodi's birthday.

is this Saturday. And I would still have to be in Manchester for it. And she was like, I don't want to do anything for my birthday this year. And I made a pretty big stink about you're going to do something. Just sit back, relax, take a load off. I'm going to plan it. Whatever. And I kind of feel like I had dropped the ball for her 30th a little bit.

So I really wanted to do something. And by something I mean just like plan a beach day, but like something nonetheless. And it just would not have felt right for me to be like, I am going to head out now. Yeah. Happy birthday. So that was the one thing that was your good friend. That was weighing on me. Two is that my passport expires in two weeks.

You could have just started with that one. Which in most places you need a six month. buffer. But in the UK, you don't. But also, like, that would be pretty scary to risk a passport that expires on March 20th. Yeah. Especially just, like, with everything right now. I would say, yeah, the nuclear war would have been my number one reason not to travel abroad right now.

Sure. That is well. And so I- One, Sodi's birthday. What am I supposed to do? My hands are tied. Two, the nuclear war was kind of bugging me. It was kind of getting to me with that expired passport coming up around the corner.

And so I will not be in attendance. Okay. At the Harry Styles one night once in a lifetime one night only event. And that's something that's weighing on me pretty, pretty heavily. I do truly think there's a reason why there were so many facts. is blocking your entry to Harry's house. I hope that it's not something that I'll regret for the rest of my life. But I don't know.

It's too soon to say. It's too early to say. I think I'll have a really hard time when that concert special hits Netflix. That's what I'll say. Like I should have been there. Uh-huh. I should have been, I was supposed to be in the video. Like those kinds of vibes, you know?

Yeah, that's tough. That's tough, man. I don't know what to say. I think a lot of people would do the same and a lot of people would do differently. That's a good point. This episode is brought to you by Prime. Obsession is in session. And this summer, Prime Originals have everything you want.

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And now if I have one regret in life, it's that. Although there weren't really as as many roadblocks to that. But I just hope that I don't end up regretting this for the rest of my life. I don't think I will. I think I made the right choice. even though I'm completely devastated. But it will be okay. It will be. I mean, these things pass. And I'm excited for SOTI's birthday. Second thing that I just wanted to touch on really quickly is just a PSA to the general public.

Something I've learned recently is that if you post something on the internet, doesn't matter where, doesn't matter where, doesn't matter. if you think no one's going to see this. You need to be prepared for anyone in the world to see it. So every time you post, you need to think to yourself, it is possible that every single person in the world could see this. And you have to ask yourself, am I okay with this? If you are, go ahead and post that for me. If you're not okay with even one person seeing it, maybe hold off on it. Just a moment. Just a moment. This is something that I learned.

Did you learn this last week in last week's episode? Yeah. And I just wanted to share that now if I have even an inch of a doubt about something, it's not getting posted.

And that's how I'm living my life moving forward. I like that. I think that's good. Rule of thumb. Anyone can see anything if it's on the internet. And I didn't think you would see that. It's not, unfortunately, as much as I want it to be, it's not really a valid excuse when you're posting publicly. Oh my gosh, which actually reminds me, I went to Framebridge over the weekend.

Yeah. And Ray was there. Oh, how is he? And he said, he was like, thanks for. Bring me up. Like, I have, I'm a wealth of stories. I really think that, like, we maybe try to tap into him when you're in town. Oh, my God.

We have him on for a segment. I would love that. He shared some, some intro to some of the stories. And I was like, oh, just hold that thought. Because this does sound so interesting. And but it was so funny because that was the first, I go to Frambridge, obviously, I frequent. And that was my first time seeing him. And I was like, I was genuinely very scared to run into you because I feel like I blew up

your spot. People were dressed up as you for Halloween, you know? You know, I was so tickled by the girl that dressed up as... You were, you love... Ray, I sent her Phoebe. Yeah. Oh, yeah. You did?

Mm-hmm. That is too sweet. It just felt like really, like, amazing to me that someone is that invested. Yeah. No, me too. And so... That is so sweet, Brooke. And, hey, anytime.

I had another story from the weekend that I was going to tell you. Two quick things, actually. Uno I have been really seeking out Like when I go out on the town now Like I want a buggy Like I forgot like I enjoy getting down You know

Totally For a while I thought maybe I'm a sitter Like I just I really don't want to go Unless Because there like a base camp for people to sit Really enjoy Now I figured out I'm more of a dancer I've

Did you not always know that? No I knew I liked to dance Like at a way and stuff. I'm happy to be first on the dance floor. But I really like kind of grooving it, you know, like, I know the songs. I want to dance a little bit. And so I'm dancing at this bar. And it wasn't like a bar bar bar. It was kind of like, like you knew every song. It was like, I'm just dancing on my own, like that kind of music. And I'm sitting there. I'm kind of grooving. And I was really having fun. And then later on in the

night there was like a corner of girls they were on like a bachelorette trip and this girl comes up and goes i love like and i'm getting ready to be like oh like the way you she's like i love that you just don't care at all what people think it's so she moves in her own way by the cooks great song yeah i agree but i do care a lot what people think and for her to deliver that as like wow you really like you're so brave yeah it is it is a microaggression for sure well it's such a microaggression to be like i love it's such a microaggression to be like i love that you don't care what people think. I do. Yeah. I care deeply what people think and now I want to go home. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I get that. What did I look like out there? Yeah. You will never catch me dancing. I'm a sitter like through and through and through to my bones. You jump. I'm not even

1% of dancer. There's not 1%. Huh? I've seen you bounce. No, you haven't. Like slowly, like to the You're like, I've seen you dance and say woo. I could say woo. I wouldn't call what I do dancing. It's more of just like, I will move a little bit if I have to. But I am so, I have no rhythm and I'm just so embarrassed by it that thinking of anyone like seeing that. Because when you look at someone and they have no rhythm, it's a tough look, you know? Well, I think that that's probably POV or that girl watching me dance.

No, you have rhythm. I don't. I thought I had rhythm at one point in my life. I lost it. The emperor needs to find his new groove. Can you start calling me the emperor? Let's see if you earn it by the end of the episode. Okay.

No. Fair. Yeah. I should earn it. And two, the second place I danced this week and I went and saw Conan Gray in concert. It was such a treat. You know that that's going to be like the new. That's, I mean, not the new, but like, you know, he's going to be the biggest star on the planet.

What have I been saying about Conan Gray? No, I mean, obviously, I've been a fan too, but like you, you were, seeing him and, and it was a theatrical performance. The production that went into his show, his life show, was so otherworldly. And I didn't know our friend Emma was going to be there, too, and I saw Emma. And it was such, it was so much fun. Yeah. Got to hang out after the show.

We had such a good time. It was just such a. Wow. Have you had the opportunity to see Conan in a concert, you should definitely. Obviously very jealous. Have you heard his song, The Winner? Yes. That, to me, I want everyone to press pause on this episode and give that a listen.

It's full body chills every time. It was also amazing because the arena that he performed in, I had only seen, like, hockey games in. Oh. And to see him sell out the same arrangement. as a hockey match or hockey match? I think game, honestly. A game of hockey, a match of hockey? I think hockey.

Hockey game. Hey man, who gives a rip? Who gives? It was so many people. It might be a match. Might be a hockey match. Anyway, it was really good. So that was really fun.

Yeah, he's incredible. I love the guy. And I feel like deeply connected to him because just like the lyrics honestly like the way he writes about just like avoidance and nausea and deep deep unrequited love like yeah unrequited yeah i thought it's unrequited yeah it's unrequited yeah it's unrequited what right yeah can we just have someone can we i'm pretty positive can we can we have them can we have them say it can i hear can i get a second opinion. I believe you, Brooke, with my whole heart. I just need to hear someone else say it.

I get it. Unrequited. Whoa! I'm so glad that this has never come up. I'm shocked. I've never said unrequited before. It does not sound right. It is unrequited, yeah. My gosh. Wow. And what does that mean? What does it mean? Yeah. Oh, like not returned. Sad. Oh, so sad. It's like unrequit it It's like almost like unrequited Yeah

Yeah Oh my God I have a cavity Damn You know I never had one Yeah I know you tell me every time I have one of my 11 cavities Which is so funny because I don't eat like any candy I brush my teeth constantly

I'm flossinging like It's nobody's people It is genetics I don't floss When people are When people leave a situation They're like oh I'm so worried that my breast stink And then I always tell them like, don't worry.

Like no one is remembering it. Just so you know if I meet someone in your breastings like, you are now stinky breath to me for the rest of your day. I know. Even if every other interaction we have is just minty, fresh, beautiful smell on your body. You are stinky cavernous. It's a hard one. It's a hard one. No, like I don't shake it.

I remember that for the rest of my life. I know. I know, I know. You know I have an issue with smells. I know. And I have an issue with sounds as well. I know that too. And sight.

I know that. And I don't love how things feel sometimes. I agree. The texture of them. Yeah. Senses are tough. Am I missing any touch? Taste.

I don't think I'm super sensitive to taste. Okay. So maybe that's my one, um, whatever the opposite of an Achilles heel is. I think, yeah, I think scent is my. and sentence sound yeah um well whoa i just sounded like i have a disease

um what was it gonna say about it it doesn't matter about breath yeah the breath it doesn't matter here's what I'll say what so Rob won traitors

yes which is crazy because when you DMed him like hey can you come on the podcast like he he had already won like he knew that yeah we're not getting to him champ well he was on the tonight show last night yeah dude think that the ship has has left the harbor yeah that's something i'm coming in terms to with he said he said yes i would love to i think that it was a formality which i appreciate more than life itself but we're We won't be seeing Rob anytime soon.

I mean, the guy's got a busy schedule. The guy has completely blown up, 10 to 15 in the face. Talk about someone that's absolutely let themselves go. You don't watch, right? You didn't watch. I started and then I got obviously sidetracked. Here's what I'll say about this. The guy was a traitor through and through from the very beginning.

He played the game and he played like a traitor. and I am done hearing people shit on him for playing the game. What are people saying? People are just like he's a snake. That's the whole thing. Of course he was. Yeah.

People are like angry with him because he really fucked people over at the end, as is the game. But like the guy played probably the best game I've seen. I would be really concerned about people having actual visceral feelings. about someone playing the game well. There's visceral feelings about it.

It pisses me off. The guy played the game. I would absolutely love to be in a situation where you get rewarded by being manipulative. I think you should. I like 1,000 percent. And I've thought about this like daydream about it of us both being on traitors. Brooke, my God. And you're obviously a.

traitor and I'm a faithful and like I'm so sorry Connor like I can't be your ally like I I wouldn't trust a word you said and I would say that in my confessionals too what I would not trust you although if you're a traitor and I'm a faithful and I am your ally you would keep me in the game you are evil well I know you're a traitor through and through what if I wasn't a traitor I know you are. Okay, so now we'll never get cast because now... No, I mean, you might not be, but like, to me, like, I just can't trust a word you say. What the fuck?

What do you mean? What are you talking about? You just said you're grateful that there's a game you can lie and manipulate your way through. I don't do that IRL. That's not something I'm doing day to day. What do you mean that you don't trust a word I say? I'm talking about in the game. Oh, my gosh.

We are in the game right now. Once we step into the game, it's just like, I don't trust a word you say. Oh my gosh. I'm just like this has changed the way I look at you outside of the game. No. We just got done with talking about how it's a game. I feel like you just absolutely entrapped me at the corner of cope.

No. I am playing a faithful game. Oh my God. You're scary. No, I'm not. You're scary. You're scaring me. You're gaslighting me.

You're scaring me. You're gaslighting me because you're, yeah, uh-uh, I'm not doing this. No. I'm not gas-sighting you. You are. You're scaring me. You have spoken about how you want to be a traitor, how you're a great manipulator, how you're a liar. Now I'm telling you that I would know that you're lying to me most likely and I'm not going

to trust you. And now you're blaming me. Yes. Oh, absolutely. I wish you were someone else in the room. Oh, absolutely. I'm having a wild, wild out of touch fantasy about one day being cast and that would be so fun to act.

And you're saying, I don't trust. a word you say. Should I? Okay, picture this. Picture this for me. We're in the game. We're in the castle. You're a traitor.

You tell me with your masterful acting and manipulation skills, Brooke, I promise you I'm a faithful. I'm supposed to believe that? You just expect me to believe that. And I'm going to wring your neck. You expect me to believe that?

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Oh, I hope. And you know there's traitor on traitor crime, right? Yes. If I was a traitor and you were a traitor, I would hope that there would not be any traitor on traitor crime. That's what I'll say. I would rather lose than have traitor on traitor between us. You know what?

And you think that before you go in. like I am going to be a team with my traders but shit happens No not like that You can't control the other traders My family can no longer play putt putt We can no longer play Monopoly Because things got too heated

I know that you're able to lose yourself in a game You can lose yourself You can lose yourself I'm very competitive And obviously I like winning But not at the cost of my friendships At the cost of my family sure friendships no

Okay I but I do think like and I don't mean to like elevate myself like in your life but I do think we have more of that like family bond like the sibling the sibling connection like to me I could be mean to you because it's like family vibe yes so like I wouldn't worry about hurting your feelings in the same way I would another friend trust is completely trust is completely different than hurting your feeling like I'm I'm I'm I'm stricken I would not trust you in a game of manipulation. You just call me a rat. What did we just talk about about being a rat or snake in the game of traitors? I'm not faulting you for playing the game. Yeah, okay, you're right.

I'm not faulting you. But at the same time, I'm not going to trust you either. I'm playing my game. You're playing yours. That's fair. I don't hold it against you. You're playing the game. That's real crazy.

I actually like, don't think I can do this actually. I'm telling you, it's like, it's, it's, once you get in there, it's really. No, I mean, Brooke, we're here. I'm talking to you virtually and I'm getting, I'm about to have to take my, my top layer off because I'm sweating. I know. It's really, I imagine once you get to that round table and everyone's coming for each other and you have to defend yourself. That's my bread and butter though. Like that's when, when we're like calling people out of us.

stuff like that is so much fun like that's my favorite part you know when everyone's like i would hate to be called out though do you ever play mafia with your friends yes i love mafia yeah me too mafia is so much fun but it's the same thing you're getting in you're like my friends have gotten a noise complaint from their neighbor and they live in a standalone house because i was like no no you bet's bullshit bullshit i saw you blink you know like i I have a pretty good read on people, I think. You disagree. I'm not talking about the blinking mafia. I'm talking about the one where everyone goes to sleep and then you get tapped, you know, the one that's like traitors.

Yeah, no, I know what you're talking about. Okay. Secret Hitler. Pretty much. Yeah. Um, I've become more of a fishbowl guy myself, but I get really competitive with that, too, like to the point where it's like, I have to come. downstairs in the morning and be like, hi. How you're doing?

How are you guys? How did everyone sleep? And like the night before I'm like, that was the fucking grinch, you piece of shit. Like how are we supposed to know that? Yeah. You got to walk with your knees higher, you know, on your tiptoes and kind of move your arms like Jack Sparrow. I totally get you.

I'm never in the mood to play fishbowl, but then whenever we start, I'm always really into it. I'm never in the mood to do the setup. Yeah. Once it starts and I can sit down and plug and play. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Agreed. I'm also not in the mood to lose.

Like, I'm just never going to be in the mood to lose. Like, I really want my team to be locked in. If I see someone on their phone during Fishbowl, I'm really, really on your neck. Yeah. I get that. No, I'm a game player. Me, Brooke, me too. And that's what I love about us.

We really do need to be put in something together because I think that that would be. I would love truly to do some sort of traitors like show. I would too. I would also, I wouldn't pass up like that thing, that obstacle course was over the mud. Wipeout? Wipeout? You know, you know I was offered that. Oh my gosh. Like, I would have to have an aura frame playing of you in the wipeout course for the rest of my days.

It would be hung up like Harry Potter moving photos. And it would be you getting smacked by that huge hand. It's not like I don't have. have the length to reach the, like the obstacle. I want to see you jump on those balls across the moat. I don't want my,

I like would have to be wearing pants. That's my thing. I really don't like having my legs out. But if they were to offer me some sort of full body suit, I could do it. Hang on, I'm looking at my notes.

Did I say everything? Oh, no, I didn't. But you go ahead. Why don't you hit me? I have some stuff like pertinent stuff that isn't personal. Okay, but also speaking of shows that we could go on. This one we couldn't go on due to dumb. Due to dumb.

Due to dumb. Pop Culture Jeopardy is, I watched the first episode. You know, it's the one that Colin Jost hosts. And I got so many right that I put a team together. Yeah. Me, Matt King, Megan. And I was like, we're full sending this. I mean, that's Father's Son, Holy Spirit.

That's the trifecta. Yeah, we are doing this. And then I was hanging out with Matt the other night during Stationary Club. Yeah. And we watched an episode after I'm telling him, I'm so good, like I'm going to be an asset to the team. Blah, blah, blah. Couldn't get one. Couldn't get one.

But Matt, on the other hand, you've never seen anything like it. Well, you know I go to trivia every time I'm in L.A. Where? I... I don't want to blow up the spot because really it was like show backs last time. And people cheat, which really upsets me because it's like if we don't have honesty during trivia, like where do we like nothing's sake? Where can we have honesty?

Like in this day and age, you're really shazimming a song. Yeah. Not right. No, it ain't right. I agree. You need to hold yourself to the standard. Yeah. And I really crushed.

They did. they did Oscar award-winning movies and they zoomed in really close on the poster, the art. And I got nine out of 11 of them. Wow. Like Dunkirk. Dunkirk was won and like everywhere,

everything all at once and it was like zoomed in on Jamie Lee Curtis. Like I like got it, you know. I was able to do really well at that one episode because they had Broadway as a category and then TikTok. and also friends. So I was like hit after hit after hit. And then I couldn't get anything from any of the other episodes. So I withdrew from my team.

But I still hope Matt goes on one day. I think Matt could. Oh, he absolutely could. It was amazing to watch. He's just, he's got a brain that's working overtime in specific ways. Did you watch SNL? No. Okay.

Well, I watched for the first time in a very, very, very long time. because it was Connor Story hosting. Right. I was at Conan. Sure. Sure, sure, sure. First of all, he like truly, his acting, like, even in these sketches, like, he brings substance to something that you don't think can have substance.

Like, it is, his acting is out of this world. Like, I think he is going to be, like, the biggest star that we've seen. That's awesome. In our lifetime. I wish more than anything S&L could have given him a little bit more to work with anything

almost anything to work with and that's that's what I will say about that I know you friends in high places and shit like that and I have nothing but respect for everything and it's just I wish they gave him a little bit more

feedback is important feedback is important they gave him there was one good one an ice skating one that Hudson made an appearance in. I saw that. And that was good.

That was fair. That was great. Yeah, that was good. I haven't caught up yet, but that was when I saw it. I was like, oh, this is really good. Yeah. Totally. And you know, I'm not, not, oh, they're so precious.

Not expecting. Oh, they're so, I can't even. Like, it's so, so stupid. I would love them so much. They're so great. So I'll picture of Hudson with Rob this morning. I hope it all ends soon. I can't take it anymore.

Rob who? Osh. Oh, wow. me a picture of Hudson with Rob Rausch. Hudson, I just saw, is being cast in Emily Henry's new adaptation produced by J. Lo. Well, that is just speculation because J.Lo and Emily Henry followed Hudson. That's good to me. This happens.

Every single time Emily Henry follows someone, like, blows up that, like, they're being cast. And it's usually not the case. So I'm not going to get my hopes up yet. But if we do get Hudson in an Emily Henry adaptation, I am going to run out an entire floor of a hospital just for me to have my pick of rooms for when the time comes. Appreciate it. I think that you should probably start looking into booking your stay

because it's, I think it's going to, I mean, it's pretty two for two at this point. I think all things are very intentional, especially from the J-Lo side. I think Emily's very kind soul. No one speculated that I was at. acting in anything when she followed me. I do want a flag.

Me neither. Oh, yeah. But you're an author. Thank you for saying that. So that make your, I mean, you guys are peers in the space, which is so sweet. Yeah, that is crazy. Well, I guess watch the space, but they move pretty quickly over there. J-Lo doesn't really wait around for anybody.

That's the one Emily Henry book I haven't read. Oh, you better get to it. Better get to it before Akatar drops and then you're neat. I'm so backlogged. You're going to be balls deep in Akitar for a while. I'm still not done the first Creston City book. It's tougher than I want it to be. And at least there's only two more on their each 800 pages.

Yeah, here's something else I'll say that's been affecting my life negatively. I would say, net negative. AI is bad. Yes. Sometimes I get confused. Oh, I know. And like, please. I'm genuinely trying to learn.

Like, truly, I am. I don't under, like, some AI is much worse than others, correct? Yes. Yes. So how bad is it? And I'm being genuine. There are these videos on my free page that I can't avoid anymore. And I'm sure some of you have been privy to them as well.

They are fruits, but personified and sexualized as well. The female fruits, I'm talking apollina. I saw broccoli with a huge rack. Yeah, I'm talking apollina, banana, I think it's mangalina as well. I'm talking like massive racks. And they're all sexual videos of these fruits cheating on each other, having really dramatic affairs like soap opera. They're basically soap opera with personified sexualized fruit and they're AI generated bad. I acknowledge that. I can't stop. I can't stop watching them.

Like I've fallen victim to like what they want, which is like the brain rot that sucks you in. How bad is it that I'm like watching them? Like is me giving these views which I unfortunately like it's something in my brain is is now wired. to these videos, which is just what they want. They've got me right where they want me. Yes. How bad is it that I'm giving it views? Like I understand the production of these videos is bad.

That's what I get. But is watching them equally is bad too. I'm just going to say, I'm just going to say this and I'm not, I'm not like coming at you at all. I just think that like demand. Supply and demand creates. Yeah. Like, and watching it would,

would read to them as like, oh, they want more of these. But I think they're going to do it regardless. Like, they're just churning these out. It's just crazy that, like, the white rhino will go extinct because I'm watching a celery stock cheat on an apple. You know, it's like... Yeah. It's black mirror through and through.

Yeah, there's, I mean, there's so much. But, like, this is just like... This one feels so stupid, but the fact that there's real repercussions of these fake storylines of fruits, like having affairs is really something. And I feel like we're MD Foodie Boys right now talking about this. Like we were- No, I actually think that you're like, you, there was a lot to what you just said. And it honestly like, effect. I know it wasn't very succinct, but it is like pretty eye-opening. And I also just saw, and this is like shifting gears a little bit and we can shift back to like,

Fruits having sex shortly. Okay. But like, I just saw that there's, you like, you like to gamble, right? Yeah,

I love blackjack. So there's all these apps now, Polly Market, Cal She, all these things were like, from your phone, you could, it started as like sports betting.

And then now it's like, how quickly will, will, um, or like who will be, who is, uh, bad bunny going to bring out as like a guest on the Super Bowl show.

You know, like all these, things and people create these things that could happen and then people bet and then it's sometimes it's like six options you can pick from it's like yeah like this so someone created one and it was like the likelihood of nuclear war and it opened up to the politicians choosing the options and so they were allowed to inside trade on the nuclear war that we're about to have even though they are the ones calling the shots. Is that making sense?

Am I saying that? That is the most black, that's more black mirror than fruits having sex contributing to the extinction of the white rhino. Insider trading on the likelihood of nuclear war. And I feel like people aren't understanding that like, this is so funny, but like this is not like a survivable thing. Like a nuclear fallout is like, there's TV shows about it. We're so lucky we have this.

podcast like I really want to just like this this podcast is genuinely akin to watching wipe out it should be like a monkey symbol what like brain rot yeah it should just be like it like turn it off I actually don't want to talk about nuclear I was going to say like I can't think of like the world being wiped out right now I know it's it's just like it would make sense with like Everything. Yeah. It's not good. And you can quote us on that.

Yeah. If anyone's waiting. Go ahead and quote it on that. If anyone's waiting on us to let out our statement about our stance on the nuclear war, we think it's bad. I need to text Caleb about the fruits. Yeah. Caleb would know.

Yeah. Um, I have something to tell you. Yeah. I know the nuclear war is on the horizon, but just don't rush the process. If February didn't, March, April, May. Oh, nice. That's reminding me of this ominous fortune I got in my fortune cookie last night, telling me that I need to trust everything that happens this year.

Ooh. Which I don't like. Like, why do I need to? what's going to happen that I need to just trust in? Oh my gosh. Yikes. Which I don't care. Yeah, I didn't care for that.

That's okay. You're going to be visited by three spirits, though. Would you want that? Yeah. I like don't love living alone, but I would love if it was three spirits and they could like, it's like they're not in my way and they're not using any dishes. Oh, but they have to take me to my past and my future. Yikes.

I like forgot about that part. I do not want to go to my future. ever. I was really seriously thinking the three spirits we're going to sit with and watch a movie. No, no, no, no, no, no. You're, y'all have like excursions and stuff. No, we full blown have stuff to take care of. Yeah. Oh, wait. So was one of the three spirits the present day? Yeah, the ghost of past, present, and future. What did the present day one do? Like, did he die earlier today? Why is he a ghost already? I'd be like, you just got here. You don't know shit. I kind of forget the concept. I think he was just like reflecting on life and all the mistakes he's made and like what he could have done if he made

different choices right right right her husband died but it's like she's really like it's so i'm talking about the crispy cream woman oh yeah we should um it's really it's like i don't know the word that i'm looking for but like i guess when you get to an age like she's pretty matter a fact about it yeah she's just like i loved him so much and it was his time and now I'm a widow. And it's just like, of course it's tragic, but it's also like not. It's just like. You just sounded like Vanessa Hudgens during COVID.

Yeah. I mean, people are going to die. They are at the end of their lives. And it's just like the way that she's accepted it is almost like a little bit healing, the way she's kind of looking at death. It's admirable. Like, yeah. I loved him and our life was amazing together.

And he was sick. And now he's gone. So I've been watching her videos. She's like vlogging on like life as a widow. Mama Mia Pizzeria. Huh? I said mama me or pizzeria and it wasn't necessarily appropriate right there. But you know what's so weird given everything that we just talked about?

What? There was a blood moon last night. It said like once every 10,000 years. But I feel like there was like six this month. There's always something happening that's supposed to happen every 10,000 years. but I've already experienced it like eight times. Do you know that like when I was a kid and they were like, this is the only time you'll see this comment in your lifetime?

The way that I was like, okay, everyone up, three in the morning. I woke up my whole family. I said this is really something that we need to be outside paying attention to. I was gathering the troops. I was like texting my neighbors. Everyone up. We got to see this. It's the only time we're going to see Haley's comment.

I saw Haley's comment. And I think that that one, and who care you know it's like heyley's like what does haley's comment have to do with like my day to day like well what's scary to me is that when things actually are once in a lifetime and you experience them that's it it's over never again in your life i hope you experienced that in a way that you i hope you dance like it's just weird that haley i saw haley's comment when i was in sixth grade or something and then today i had to pay my con edison bill

what's the correlation I don't know I just feel like since I woke up and saw Haley's comment like someone that saw that with my own eyes like maybe I should get

some money off my electricity bill I do want to say really quickly this is like a good time for me to say this I kept watching JFK the love story thing yeah I'm an episode behind so one um

Dr. Schloschberg has let us know that he doesn't love the show the representation I kept watching. Jack? Yeah. I have fallen out of love.

I have fallen out of love for the story. Because of what Jack said. I think that played into it. One. Sarah Pigeon, brilliant. I'm kind of, some of the acting is kind of giving Hallmark movie. I actually think that like some of the characters,

like with Darryl Hannah, I was like, there's this, is this woman like a horrible actress or what? And then I looked up like Daryl Hannah. And I was like, oh, no, she's actually so good. Yeah, she was great. A lot of it is just these people are like really good actors. Okay. People are weird.

And I think Jack doesn't like the show. Like, I wouldn't either if I were him. That's for sure. But. Yeah. I mean, it goes back to what I said about like your family. Like the Dahmer thing. Like those were real people that got murdered.

And now Ryan Murphy is making a ton of money off of the story of your brother or your father or your sibling. Like whatever was murdered. No, yeah. Jack said like donate the money, which like obviously they're not going to. But that would be a great solution. I do like the show. It's good. I know.

It is good. Especially right now. You know, it's been raining just about every day in New York City. And so it's been a good kind of cavernous time for me here. It is going to be, Brooke, it was 20 degrees this morning. It is going to be 75 next week. It's because of the freaking fruit videos. It's because of the fruit videos.

Thank you, fruit video. That's crazy. Yeah, no, I mean, everyone's about to get as sick as I am. I want it to be really nice when I come to New York next month. but I also want to be able to wear these gorgeous boots that are more of a like cold weather vibe. I'm really enjoying getting dressed up. The jacket piece is kind of making me lose it,

but like this hybrid part where you can wear a light sweater and you can also wear like a little coat over top, very nice, it's fleeting. Because soon I'll be smelling pee. I'll be sweating in my jorts and I'll be cutting my underwear off at the U.S. Open bathroom. And putting it into the trash. Yeah, treasure these times.

Oh, you don't know what you got till it's gone. And they literally paved paradise and they put up a barking lot, which is disappointing. It's disappointing. Everyone reminded you appreciate the fact that you can breathe right now, if you can. And then remember that trust the process, trust everything that happens to you this year. This year. Because if February didn't, March, April, May. Wait.

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