Brooke and Connor Make A Podcast - Ray’s Dossier

Episode Date: June 11, 2026

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Sweet, okay. I'm gonna do a proper intro. Last week, I kind of effed up the intro. It was weird and very shaky and kind of scared. And just like not the elk of someone who's been podcasting for five years. Pro. Yeah, and so now, and if you're listening right now and you're hearing, there's a voice to my left here in the studio. We have the one and only Ray, the framer here in the studio today. Thanks for coming on, Ray.

This is incredible. This is a huge get for us. It was a long time in the making. It was a long time in the making, and I think you pitched it originally. I did. You just kind of threw it out. You're like, hey, if you ever want to chat? Because we dragged you into the podcast world

by using your actual, your government name and your place of work currently. And pretty much where exactly, we pretty much docks you at POSCON. It's kind of flattering. It was endearing. It was a docks of endearment. I never thought I'd be the kind of guy to get duxed for anything.

Well, yeah. I'm excited you're here. This is so great. I'm excited to be here. Actually, I just want to get something else off my chest really quick. Do it. I hit a bird with my face today. Really?

Yeah. I was on. Yeah. Okay. So I... You all right? I'm a little rattled. That's why you caught me coming out of...

It was a pigeon. Oh, oh, well. You caught me coming out of... A big bird. Yeah, and I did. just like the time where were you i was on a city bike okay so i've been biking yeah so i was moving pretty quick and i had had the thought these pigeons really like ballsy they really hang around to the last minute to decide like what they're going to do and it's not like deer in the headlights

type thing it's it's kind of like hit me i dare you yeah yeah yeah you know they're kind of cocky and i i intentionally avoid them because i just like but then i've i've learned to trust these birds that maybe these birds are just like, by the laws of nature, it's impossible to hit a pigeon. You know why I think that is, though? Because pigeons were originally brought over here by, like, the English gentry as doves. Pigeons is doves?

Don't quote me on that, but yes. They were brought over here by the English gentry and is like a luxury pet, like a peacock or something. And then pigeons just multiply, like, really fast. And after the moneyed few stopped just having pigeons, they got everywhere. They were like, well, fuck these things. Like, we don't want them anymore.

So that's why there's so many pigeons in New York. I didn't know that. There's obviously one last bird now because it hit my face so hard. It hit, I couldn't turn around because I'm moving really flying on this bike. I just hit the wing hit my face. It wasn't like a full body. Okay, okay. Like full frontal smack to the face.

Yeah. No, it was a full wing though. Yeah. It wrapped my face. Really? Yeah. Had a smell. I don't need, I can feel it on my face right now.

Really? Yeah. If only the people out there in the podcast either can get a whiff. I went in and did a dude wipe on my like forehead and eyes. Yeah? Yeah. I'm gone now. I'm worried.

I don't even know if dude wipes are like anti-septic. I think so. Yeah. For your butt, but. Who knows what dudes are doing, man. We're getting in all sorts of germs. Are you getting into germs a lot, Ray? Probably.

I'll be honest. Yeah. Really? Yeah. I don't get. I brought it up. on and this when I start talking about germs like I need to like kind of get back on track here a little bit because I could talk about germs for an hour are you having fun react I don't really get

no I'm not scared of germs like I like I like oh I loki am I'm not like I'm not like RFK Jr but like germs are like they're kind of where are they you know like they're so small and they're alive everywhere and I think of them as like little green guy like yeah fun little guys like the gang green gang gang green gang from gang from Powerpuff girls yeah it's kind of well good reference yeah Yeah, I just like don't, I don't, I don't, germs aren't in the world that I, like, that I, like, the fact that there's germs like on my legs right now. There's germs everywhere? Give me break. Yeah.

I'll catch you some slack. Okay. Sorry we already started talking about germs and we're like 10 minutes. It's all good. So when, when I came in and you pitched coming on the podcast, you said that you had a lot of stories. You said you had a lot of stories. You're a story guy. I'm a story guy.

I was taken by that. Do you, I don't have a, I don't have a cue for you, like a good transition to get to, okay. I'm not a transition guy. Well, I'll tell you how we started framing and then will lead up to me starting at my current place of business. Yes. Do you know that someone dressed up as you for Halloween? Yes, because that girl came into the shop and told me.

That's what I'm talking about. Like, I told people where his name and where he works. Did you wear the wig? And she was like, no, just the name tag. And I was like, the wig would have been kind of sick. But alas, your audience has known. what I look like until now. It's weird because I was in Boston when the young woman dressed up as you.

Yeah. Shout out Boston, dude. Shout out Boston. Go crazy. But I'll tell you how we got to my current place of business. So I started framing in high school as like just the job to do after school. I got the job on Craigslist. Craigslist shout out, great place to get a job, especially a weird job.

I love a weird job. And I did it. It was this place called Frame It Yourself in Fairhaven. New Jersey, and the two people who run it are just, like, super wonderful, took a chance on like a scrappy young high schooler with, like, no framing experience whatsoever. Math's also, like, my worst subject, and I was really afraid they were going to make me. Is there a lot of math and framing? There's like a some, yeah, but I'm good at that type of math.

Four by five. Sure, exactly. Four by six is the standard. We could go, we could do this all day. But yeah, so I got that job. It was great. I left. went to college,

did a bunch of stuff in college, was like, I want to move to New York, I want to be in the music industry. That's what like my... You look like you would. Yeah. Oh, because you can't look like Billy Isles' brother.

That's what everyone said. Yeah. It would be a good fit. You could slip right in there. Yeah. I wish, I hope one day he gets a, you look like a Ray Young. I think that'd be sick.

So he would know how it feels. And it'd be a compliment. It's always a compliment when people say that to me. Well done. But I wanted to work in music so bad. I moved to the city. I had this internship working for this manager for like two weeks. I was like, yes, I got this.

This is it. I hustled. I worked at some venues in Brooklyn, like really scrappy DIY venues, which was awesome, like Transpicos and Market Hotel. And got this job. And I was like, let's fucking go. Like, I did it. And then COVID happened two weeks later.

And I was like, I didn't do it. That's it. I failed. I'll never work in the music industry ever again. And I moved back in with my parents who have relocated to Buffalo. And I'm up there. And I'm like, you know, it's fucking. I'm just going to move back.

So I move back in. And I'm like, I just need a job. And it's always like the banana stand in Arrested Development. Yeah. There's always money in a frame shop. So I can always get a job at a frame job once you have that skill. And I start working at this frame shop up on 72nd frames for you. And it was a great, like,

cool upper west side little store. I have to say about there's always money in the frame shop. Getting stuff framed is so expensive. Yes, it is. And I think that that's neat. Like, I think if you're on the upper west side, yeah, yeah, those people are getting things framed constantly because they have a billion dollars. They were probably the most hesitant about prices.

What? Upper West, yeah. Are people just throwing money away on framing things? Because I, like, I'm saving up to get, like, I have this, this print. And then I'm like, I will get you framed. I'm putting dollars aside to get this thing framed. Exactly.

It's like not a, it's not a willy-nilly thing. You don't get things framed willy-nilly. You earn a frame. You really do. And you work for a frame. It would always kind of break my heart when like a dad and their kid would come in

with like a poster from Natural History Museum. I'm like, I would just want to get this framed and I'd be like, it's going to be $300. And they'd be like, are you fucking getting me? And I'm like, even on the cheapest option, yeah, it's going to be like 300 bucks and they would walk out really dissatisfied. And it's like, just pin that shit to the wall, bro.

Yeah. Like, not everything needs a frame, especially for a child. Sorry, kids. But you should be just pinning stuff to the wall, tape, whatever. Like, if you're under 18, you don't need any frames. They have frames at Marshalls and TJMAX, but not custom. Yeah. You're fine.

You've framed a couple things for me that I adore. Well, I hope that they're still around. All my substance storage right now, so. Well, let me all finish getting to the current spot. No, that's the whole point. You pause for a second. I'm jumping right in. Yeah, yeah.

That's the whole point. So I met this dude at a conference. And he was Nick Gordon. And he was an A&R for this company, symphonic distribution. And I just, like, presented myself to him, much in the same way that I presented myself to you. And I was like, yo, like, I want to talk. And he was like, all right, let's talk. We talked over Zoom.

You're always doing that. I am always doing that. And we had a great conversation. And at the end of the call, he was like, yeah, man, just keep on plugging away in the whole music industry thing. And I'm like, dog, I want to work for you. Like, I want to work for you. And he was like, all right, let me see what I can do. And like a couple months later, I had an internship at the distribution company.

And I worked my way up, went more part-time, went full-time, stopped framing, did music for like six years, right? So I was A&Arts symphonic distribution. And then I got my dream job, which was working on Julian Casablancus's management team at Colt Records. That's the strokes. That's the strokes. You guys. The goat. And it was just like.

fucking awesome. Like, it was sick. Yeah. It was really cool. And then, uh, I had to stop doing that because that and the other job I had, the ANR job, it was just like too much. Like, I was like, I was not well up here, you know? So I stopped doing that. A couple months later, the economy takes a tank, right? Yeah. Everyone in music got laid off. I mean, I'm sure you know people in music, but like, everyone got laid off. And I was one of those people. And I'm like, shit, okay. I got a nice severance check. I need to introduce you to my buddy Scooter. Scooter Braun.

Yeah. That's your buddy. You would love, oh my God. Jesus Christ. I'm just kidding. I don't know Scooter Bon. That would have been crazy. But yeah, so I had to move back to Buffalo because I ran out of money.

And I'm sitting on my ass and I'm like, I need a job. God damn it. And I was on an appointment. And I was like, I was wanting to do like artist partnerships, like brand partnerships. I was like making decks and pitching them out to companies being like, if you want to connect to cool music. like let me know because I have all the connections you know and I actually got meetings with like big brands and it was really cool and we were like I thought

the meetings went really well until one by one they just kind of fell off and fell off and then I ran out of unemployment and I was like let me move back to New York I'm just gonna move back to New York because I'd rather be broke and have no money coming in in New York City than I would sit my parents couch in Buffalo right I got back to New York I'm essentially homeless I'm not gonna lie I'm sleeping on, like, couches. I'm sleeping on, like, the floor of my brother's kitchen. I'm doing that right now. How is it? It's a nice kitchen.

I would love to, like, not be on a couch. Yeah. You get to a point where it's like... Yeah. And the, like, not having any alone time ever really takes a toll. Because I'm a big chiller. Like, I love hanging out. Yeah. But after, like, none for weeks on end, it's like, that's, that sucks. It's also weird to just, like, I have, I've claimed a corner of my friend's living room. And it's just like, I'm sorry that you can't go into that. corner. Are you just in between places? What's your deal? Yeah, well, my lease and then the next place I

found, there's just no apartment's available right now. Yeah. This happens to me every year that I move. And so I move in in two weeks. Okay. The summer's a bad time to move. Oh, it's really bad. Yeah. Yeah. It's a bad time to move. It's a bad time to be sleeping on someone's couch. It's a bad time to be at the mercy of someone else's preferences over their AC. Because I'm with a, I'm with a terrible. I'm with a turn it off when you leave person right now, which is like, I want to remind people that the way AC works is that like when you turn it off and then it has to pump itself back down. It's actually not good for the ACD. It's bad for your bill. Like it's worse. You just leave it on a constant temperature. Yeah. And so every time I'm, I get back or whatever, that the ACs

is at like 73. And, you know, I'm just like, I'm sweating right now. Yeah. So it's not great. But all as well, I'm taking these vitamins right now that are making me just like. What vitamins? NADH plus. What's that for? I don't know. Okay. And I cannot be bothered by anything. It's crazy. That's sick. Yeah, I'm having horrible nightmares.

What? But otherwise, really great. Oh, yeah, no, the nightmares are so bad that I'm scared to go to sleep. It's like Freddie Kruger vibes. That's kind of sick. Sometimes I think nightmares are cool because it's like, sometimes you see something so horrifying in your own head. You're like, wow, I couldn't believe that I could conceive of that.

Dreams make me so mad when I have a scary dream about, like, I had a dream that Usher was trying to, like, was trying to kill my family. That's sick. Like, I could, you can, that is the one time you can just create, like, inception vibes. Like, I could flip the city of Paris over and like, yeah, I'm. But they're never like that. No, I'm trying to get out of like a river and it's so slippery. I keep falling and there's a snake behind.

Or like, what am I doing? What are we doing? What are we doing? I want to have an all hands with like my brain. Subconsciousness? Yeah, just be like, what? Get it to get. Like, why are you?

Have you had a lucid dream? I have. Had it go. What did the inside of your subconsciousness look like? I feel like, I feel like, I feel like. I feel like you have an answer for this. So mine was I was, it was like in high school or something

and I had like read something about. And how cool is it that I'm saying I read something about it? And I truly earnestly mean I read something because now if I read something it means I just watch a TikTok. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But I know I read something about it

and I was like, I'm obsessed with this. I want to do this. And I was like looking at pictures of like my friends and stuff and trying to get them into my dream. And it worked a couple times. Yeah. But I think that's just thinking about something.

Well, my thing was because I had done some reading about it too, actual reading. Okay, you think you're better than me? No. I always carried a water bottle with me in high school, and in the dream I was like, where's the water bottle? And that was the trick. I was like, oh, it's not here.

And you can't see your own reflection in dreams either. And I remember being like, there's a mirror, and my perception of myself wasn't right. And I was like, okay, I'm definitely dreaming. Do you do shrooms? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Sometimes, like, not a lot, but. Okay. Smoke if you got them. Smoke? You smoke the shrooms? No, I mean, that's just an expression. Oh, sorry. Yeah, smoke if you got him. You ever seen space balls? Ages ago. You know they're doing a second one? I know. I love Mel Brooks. It's Mel Brooks. Mm-hmm. Oh. He's still alive. He's like one of my favorite directors. That's like one. He did Passion of the Christ, right? That's Mel Gibson. Oh. He's at Apocalypse. You ever seen that one? Apocalyptic? No. Oh, dude, it's sick. I don't watch things that are upsetting. I got them. I don't watch. I wouldn't watch something called Apocalypse. It's so sick. That wouldn't cross my death. I always like to watch it like that when I have like a really bad fever, you know, like Apocalypse Now Apocalypseo, two best fever dream movies because I'm like,

if I'm going to feel like shit, I'm going to feel like shit. I want to be panicking too. I just want to exist in like a weird like meditative like sickness state and just sink into it and like really like get into it, you know. Like you're like a masochist. A little bit. Yeah. Hey guys.

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50 bucks off your first purchase of 100 bucks or more. Thank you. Um, no, I, I can't watch anything that makes me think at all. I'm not, I don't like thinking. Um, not even, not even the Lego. Like, I'm so close to being someone that watches Bravo, stuff on Bravo, which like, no dig on people that watch Bravo. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm like, almost, I'm like, almost there. I'm almost there to start watching a real housewives type situation. I remember seeing, um, Love Island And I'm not like the type of guy Usually watches that

But I was one of my ex-girlfriends And she showed me Love Island It was actually pretty nice Because they don't really fight They just kind of like There's drama but it's not like Aggressive It's not like Jersey Shore

They don't fight You need to watch the UK one They fight? There was... I liked the not fighting Yeah Yeah I like the fighting You like the fight?

Yeah and I like the Whoa who's the massacist now Connor? I like when they're fighting It makes me feel better about my life. That stresses me out. See, I'd rather have like a fictional depiction of something horrific rather than like real anger and violence.

Like that actually upsets me more, I would say. Have you gotten in a fight? A fish fight? Not in a very long time, not since like elementary school. Did you used to fight? Not really. I just like taekwondo. Would you fight?

If I had to, I guess, yeah. People don't really pick fights with me because I'm kind of a big guy. You're tall. How tall are you? Six foot three. That's nice. Yeah. Doesn't hurt.

That would be nice. But I'll so anyway. Yeah. I'm homeless. Oh, right. Sorry. I told you I'd slip right in. It's all good.

That's the whole point. I'm homeless and I'm walking around and it's probably like 95, 98 degrees in New York in July of last year. So I'd only go out after like 4 p.m. to apply for jobs. And like I hate to prove the boomers right because it licked my skin crawl a little bit. But I was like for real passing out like printed resumes and shit. And I walked by the Framstore I work at. And I walk in and I see my girl Juliet. And I'm just like, shout out Juliet.

She's the best. And I'm just like, can I? Are you guys hiring? And she's like, yeah, actually we are. And then like light bulbs went off, handed in the resume. I have an abundance of experience. And I got the job. So she really saved my ass with that one.

Thinking about my resume makes me want to shoot myself. Really? But you have like a career in entertainment though, no? Yeah, it's okay. It's, it's, I'm, the, the makeup of the resume is good at work history. Thinking about opening, because I made it on Photoshop and it's... Why did you make it on Photoshop and that word? I thought it was better than everybody.

Really? Yeah. Kind of R.L.O. Key? No, this thing, like, if I, if I were to touch it now, like, everything would move. Yes. And shift. One of them. Yeah. And I know. And thinking about having to dig my resume back up on my laptop and adjust it.

I don't know what I would do if I had to go apply to things now because I, I, I, I, I, It's like... We've been talking about... Well, moving sucks. Looking for a job? While you're... Even worse. That's like, those two things go hand in hand to me.

Like, looking for a job and moving, suck at. Did your parents have any input on like... They're like, you're at home and you need to be back in the city, like, applying to jobs or anything? No, my parents are like insanely cool. Like, I recorded a whole album in like one week in my piece because my dad's a musician too. And my parents are literally just like, we get your stressed out. We get things suck right now in the job market. Like, we want you to find something.

good, you know. And they're really supportive of like most of the insane things that I've done with my life, thankfully. And I just kind of came to a head where I was like, look, I don't want a good job in Buffalo. I'll figure it out in New York. And they were like, we got you. So don't worry about it. Yep.

Yeah. Rather be homeless in New York than alive in Buffalo. Maybe that's not true. I've never been. I'm going there, actually. What are you going there for? For shows in the fall, I think. Okay.

My uncle has the best restaurant in Buffalo. Really? I'll plug you up. What? It's called Roost. What is? It's my aunt and uncle's restaurant. It's like gastro gourmet.

I don't know what those words are. It's like they change a menu every two weeks. It's always a different kind of cuisine from around the world and it's just insane. Like, it's so fucking good. Wow. Okay. Yeah. I will plug you up.

I'll check it out. Yes. That's exciting. You know what I was going to say earlier when you said that you can get on Craigslist and find very weird jobs? Yeah, yeah. When I was moving to L.A. from Austin. You're from Austin. Yeah.

Shout out Texas. Shout out Texas. Texas. When I was moving there, originally, I had just blown through my severance for my first job. Yeah, yeah. And it was interesting to see, because at first you get that severance check and you're like, I'm the richest man that's ever walked to the earth. Yeah, yeah.

And then you start like, spending money on shit. I'm going to get the first round. You know, I'll get the second round too. I'm going to get the foie gras. I'm not going to get groceries. I'm going to eat out every day. Ew, no, no, no. Towards the end of that amazing summer where all of my friends were, like, grad school or something,

so like everybody was kind of unemployed. I finally was like, oh, I need to get a job. I got this job. And they were like, you have to start. What year was it? 20. Okay. This is during the pandemic?

Right inches before. Okay. That was my thing too moving here right before. So I moved, I moved to, when I moved to L.A., I like couldn't, I was broke and I couldn't get into an apartment. Like you couldn't find one to move into? I found one, but the lease didn't serve for, again, for like a month. And my job was like, you have to start in two weeks or you can't have the

job. Where'd you work? A bird, the scooter company. Oh, okay. And so I was... I thought you worked for a talent agency for some reason, but no. Misunderstanding. You just have that vibe. You have like an agent vibe. Oh, that's not a compliment. I think it's cool. I don't know of any agents, but I think it's like as one sneeze bag to the next, I think that's cool.

I need to introduce you to my buddy scooter. So I I'm trying to find an apartment. Yeah. And I get on Craigslist I needed one for like two and a half weeks and I found a place that was really cheap

Yeah how much was it It was like $300 for the whole time that I needed And then I started reading the fine print It was like an older gentleman who Wanted someone to clean his house Like while they lived there like you Not a bad deal You're a living cleaner

I used to be a janitor so Well I was just kind of thinking that It's even like a live in I'm like, what are you doing to the house that makes it that dirty and you live by yourself? And yeah, then I was like, he's probably going to have sex, try to have sex with me. So I dipped on that and I'm like, okay, I dodged his bullet. That's really good force. But did he try?

I didn't do it. Oh, okay. Oh, I see, I see. I see. I didn't do it. Yeah. Which, like, I should be very clear because, like, I am someone that would be like, it's, you're saving money. Like, it's a certain amount of money.

And I really wanted to, like, if you are thinking about doing this, like, reach out to me and we can figure out a solution for you. together. Yeah. So, uh, I move into this, this woman's apartment. Mm-hmm.

For two weeks. Yeah. And pretty quickly I realized that she is naked. Also wants to have sex with you. Yeah. She, or like,

maybe it was like a harmless nudity, but she was an older woman. Yeah. Um, naked the whole time. The whole time. Couldn't, she didn't eat meat or anything,

so I couldn't have any meat in the house. Yeah. That's more of a red flag to me than the nudity. The nudity was a little bit brutal. Because living that live, but like, don't create my style. Like,

I need some meat some meat sometimes. The one thing about her, she would, like, hang her underwear everywhere, like, for it to dry, and I was like, why is all her underwear so wet? No dryer? What? No dryer? I don't remember ever doing laundry there, but I guess I must have, but her underwear was everywhere. Like, I couldn't, like, FaceTime someone without them being like, oh, like, the Bannies. The Batsler pat.

I'm like, no, the woman that lives in this apartment is just naked. I don't think she's ever put this underwear on. I was a very depressed. Looking back, I like want to grab my younger self and be like, good job for powering through. I don't know how you did it. Thinking about me in that situation now, oh, it makes me want to vomit. But I think, though, that sometimes, like, I know we live in a world where pretty much a lot of people want everything to be easy and, like, entertaining all the time, but I do think

those kinds of experiences were, like, you're forced to deal with something that, like, objectively sucks. Yeah. Like, makes you a better person. It's like character building. It brings you closer to what I think is like the source You start asking the big questions

Like what the fuck am I doing here Why do I even want to be in L.A.? Why are the panties all around my head? Like is this worth it? Do I really want to do it? And like it did kind of bring you To where you are now Which is sick

So it totally was You know what I mean? Yeah Yeah I actually got you beat though On the sketchy living situation Do you? So right now I live in a storage unit

In Brooklyn, New York and that what's not a storage unit it's a shipping container okay i was going to say like it's a shipping container i don't know if you want to say that on no no no because i think that's illegal yeah it's a shipping container in a venue in brooklyn okay um and it's a music venue and there's like music happening there all the time and it was my band's old rehearsal spot and at some point i was like fellas i can't afford an apartment um i'm kicking y'all out and i'm moving in yeah um and i'm not the first person to do this like This place has kind of a history of, you know, vagrants like myself doing similar things, but... You're a very clean vagrant.

Yeah. Yeah. My suit's, like, pressed up against, like, thumbtack to the wall right now. Like... You should get it framed. Yo. Okay. So I always wanted to frame a pair of pants, like a full-up pair of jeans, but I never had the money to do it.

It's expensive. It'd be super expensive. I mean, you know. Shotat boxing is no joke. Shotat boxing is no joke. I always wanted to do, like, a promotional stunt where I, like, a performance art piece where they framed me. And we mounted me to the wall. And I stood in there like endurance tests all day and I was just in there and you come and like I'd be a spectacle, you know? And at the end of the day, I would just smash through the glass and walk out and it'd be like some good press, I think for whatever shop wanted to do that. I, I that's this came up because let's see Amy fly did it too that that that was the whole. Did you wait, how did you did you get wind that we talked about you on the podcast? Okay, yes. So I was on my way to work.

and I got a text for my boss, all caps, Ray. And I'm like, fuck, I'm getting fired. I don't know what I did. I'm getting fucking fired. Moving back to fucking Buffalo. Like, what did I do wrong? And then I just got a clip of that one Instagram story. And I was like, oh, it's that guy.

Sick. And I didn't know who you were. Yeah. And after you came in for the first time, my two co-workers was like, do you know how that was? And I was like, no. They're like, that's Connor Wood. And I was like, Jim, like, a nice guy to me. And they were familiar with your work.

What was the clip? It was, just says framed by ray. Framed by Ray. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Part of the lore. Yeah, we have it. Yeah, we have it.

We have it somewhere. We have it somewhere. Wait, I'm gonna. And then I started getting text because I was not familiar with the podcast. And I started getting texts from people I don't get texts from. Like some people I get texts from, like some of my old coworkers. And then like, I'm calling my friend Davis down in Texas. And his little sister, Alexi is like,

Put me on the phone with Ray. And she's like, Ray, you're on Connor and Brooke Make a podcast. And I'm like, you listen to that? She's like, I'm the biggest fan. And I'm like, all right, cool. And she's like, if you go on it, you have to shout me out. So shout out Lexi Diaz. Shout out Lexi Diaz.

Oh, it's so fun. My girl down in Texas. Oh, wait. But it was flattering. Here, we have the clip. I want to listen to it. Yeah, you ride the bucket hat on. You're all fitted up.

Are you familiar with Frambridge? No, but I'm getting the sense that it's like a framing store. I just wish you were around to hear just how much Connor was speaking about Framebridge? Is this a new place for you, Connor? They frame anything. You can take anything in there and get it framed. It's like, and like I'm talking to this guy Ray. Ray from Frambridge? Yeah, and

it's kind of like, frame this. He's like, okay. And that was really our, that was really the extent of our conversation. I was like, nice dude. I don't even, I think you were framing the bag of your merch. I was doing the totes from the stand-up tour. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I did all three of the three legs of the tour.

You haven't hanging up in your apartment right now? Well, I don't have an apartment right now. Fuck, you know right now. I'm in it, I'm also, yeah, living out of a storage unit. You should, we should put bunks in my spot. Yeah.

It'll be super cheap. Me and Ray, bunk bedding in the studio in the venue. It'd be sick. We'd fucking tear it up in there. I. Forget what I, I didn't have anywhere I was going with that. Oh, well, we were talking about the first time we met and, uh, and you coming into the store and all that stuff.

And then there was all this excitement around that and like my in my world. So thank you for that, Connor. Thanks for having me. Oh, anytime. It's really great. I know. We were talking about Framage. I was kind of in like a Frambridge honeymoon.

Yeah, you were. It was sick. It was so sweet. Yeah, it was awesome. I like couldn't wait to, I was like going and picking up random stuff on the street to be like, I'm going to take this and get this frame. That's what everyone says. They come in.

They're just like, I didn't know you can get this frame. It's like, baby girl, you can frame anything you want. You really can't up to a certain size because they had to 40 by 60. They did trim. 40 by 60. They did have trim some shit up. Yeah. But yeah, then I didn't see you for a while.

And I was bummed because I was like, yo, I got to accost this man. I got to accost this man who shouted me out, right? And you came in and you were like, I thought I scared you off. And I was like, nah, bro. I've been waiting to see you. I just didn't get on the schedule until you popped in.

I know. And then I was like, yeah, you showed me in your progress. And I'm like, I really don't want to be that guy like begging for some shit, but I do have some stories. Yeah. What are these stories that you? I have a couple. Yeah.

I've been wrecking my brain. Hit me with one. One of my favorites is my first frame shop, the one in Fairhaven. I met a murderer. My boss's boy came in one day. Just like kind of chilled with us all day. And it was his friend from, I think, high school. We just kicked it.

Guy had like sick taste of music. Told me he like was into Beck and like Velvet Revolver. And I was like, hell yeah. I love Beck, you know. I love a revolver. And then even when he just like laughed and, you know, whatever, he goes to grad school. And then I come into work one day and my boss James is just like, yo, like, remember

that guy who came in to help us out, like just kind of hang out with us? And I was like, yeah. And he's like, yeah, he's like going to prison for life. And I was like, why is he going to prison for life? And it's like, because he murdered his roommate. Because he had a psychotic breakdown at school and he thought that there was the secret societies in his peripheral, one good, one evil. And they were coming together and they were telling them.

him he thought there was like secret messages from his two roommates saying like hey we're part of the good guys we need you to kill the other one when we leave the house and as soon as you do this it's gonna be all good we're gonna get you out of here like this good access of good is going to save you could you imagine being like the people that he's projecting these messages yeah i never fucking told him to kill the guy yeah and then he did loki can't imagine that sort thing. How old was he? I was a young buck back then, but probably like as old as I am now, which is 29.

Which is weird to think about. He was in grad school. I mean, it was not that old. I'm probably actually, no, he's probably in his 30s. Because my boss was like in his 30s. He had like a kid and another kid on the way. So I'm going to say like mid-30s. So yeah, met a murderer. One of my other favorite ones is this dude comes into the frame shop in the Upper West and we're talking like bullshitting.

and I'm like, oh, I play in a band, and he's like, oh, yeah, so do I. And I'm like, yeah, whatever, old man. And he's like, are you on Spotify? And I'm like, yeah, I'm on Spotify. And he's like, I have my bands on Spotify, and I have millions of monthly listeners on Spotify. And I'm like, I'm going to put you in a home, bro, okay? Like, you probably are lost. You don't know what's good with the Spotify numbers.

I type it in, and it's King Harvest. Do you know this band? Sounds so familiar. It's like a one-hit wonder from the 70s. they have a song Dancing in the Moonlight. He was in the Beach Boys, this dude. Dancing in the Moonlight. Yeah, that everyone covers.

He wrote that song. Is that their song? Yeah. And a lot of people covered it. King Harvest. But yeah, he came in and was like, but I'll check out your band too. And I'm like, I have 90 monthly listeners.

And you just mug the shit out of me, bro. They had one hit. Yours is coming. Yeah, probably not. But it's okay. And then I walk in the back. My boss, his name is Josie. I'm just like,

Joe, you know this band, King Harvest? They have this song Dancing in the Moonlight. She's wild with me. She's in her late 60s. She's like, yeah, Ray. Everyone knows King Harvest dancing in the moonlight. And I'm like, well, I'll go fuck myself then. I know the song, but.

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I didn't know that they had like a rotating cast of people. It's not like the beat, where it's like four dudes it's like but it really was uh if i forget this name i'm gonna lose all music credibility on here it's like Brian Wilson thank you was gonna say Brian Johnson but I was just listening to Brian Johnson mask on the way over here Brian Wilson Brian Brian Wilson is the Beach Boy and then there's Mike Love who's like the axis of evil Beach Boy I don't people don't fuck with Mike Love oh I don't know why but everyone loves Brian Wilson Wilson's cool were you saying you were listening to that guy that's doing the

the face injections on the way here? Oh no, but he does have the same name. Brian Johnson? It's Brian Johnstown Massacre, but it's kind of spelled the same way. What's Jonestown Massacre? Oh, it's like the psych rock band from California. Oh, sick.

I needed to get myself in the zone, you know. Yeah, totally. That's why I needed to put on some Brian Jones Town Massacre on the way over here, get a little loose, you know what I mean? I called my grandma. How is she? She's good. Yeah, how was she?

79. Yeah, if she's young. Yeah. Yeah. She had kids really young. Sick. What's she doing? Where is she at? Austin? No, she's in Idaho, but she, uh... That how sick. It was funny. This is not really, but she, I remember, like, over, uh, some break recently, we're talking her and I was like, why did you... Why is one of my aunt's middle name, whatever? And she's like, I was 16. Wait, what is it? I don't even remember which... Your name's middle name? Which aunt, but it was, it's like a weird middle name and it's a random. You know, it's like Ashley or something. I'm like, why did you choose Ashley? She was like, I was 16. I don't know. Huh. Yeah. Is she always from Idaho?

She's always from Idaho. Damn, that's sick. What part? So typical of her to be from Idaho. So, Sun Valley. Oh, okay. That's what they do, the potatoes, right? I think the whole state. Yeah, if they have like Sun Valley, Idaho, potatoes, that's like a brand, I believe. I could be wrong. You could be right.

True. You ever go out there? Yeah. I love it out there. Yeah. I know it was amazing. It was amazing. It was a fucking beautiful.

Yeah. I passed through. What's that lake, the big one? Cordillane. Cordillane. Yeah. Yeah. Cortalane's sick and kind of eerie.

I was driving up in those hills one night when I was like 18 and I was looking for a place to camp. And me and my buddy just got a bad vibe because you can pull over there and you can camp like the state law says you can just camp on the side of the road. Yeah. I'm on home. He was like, yeah, let's just do it. And I'm like, dude, like, low key kind of feels like deliverance out here. Like we're getting higher and higher up into the hills. And we just drove to Spokane that night.

Yeah. It is, um, I'm going to get this so wrong. I'm going to butcher this. But it's in, it's in this suicide belt. Oh, really? Yeah. And it's in. The white supremacy belt.

Yeah. Yeah. Which is like a crazy bin diagram. Yeah. You know? Well, one might lead to the other. Yeah, I'm sure some way. Like, I'm not that happiest folks.

Yeah. Be able to make that leap myself here on the Broken Economy podcast featuring Ray today. But it is interesting. The Murder Mystery podcast. Well, they might. I don't like murder mystery. Yeah, either do I. I want to think that I'm better than Murder Mystery, Loki.

I'm on my phone 7.35 a.m. watching a Snapchat tile news story of like the murder who killed his roommates because his other roommates sold him to. I mean, that's my first thing I consume in the morning. Before I have water, I watched two murder documentaries, you know, in my bed. You know what I'm really into right now? Is the videos the people selling the food out of their trunks?

They've ever seen this down south? Yeah, the buckets of... They're eating the pineapple and the Kool-Aid. Yeah. That's really sick. I think it's cool. I think bands should do that. I think a band is a promotional thing

should go down and eat the pineapple slice out of the Kool-Aid bucket. and eat the waffles with the cereal on it and the talkies coated chicken drumsticks. Well, this stuff goes viral all the time. It is, we live in such a weird place where like people running for Congress are like, I need to go do the press junket

where I like run into someone at, you know, on the street. And they asked me like, the guy that does the name these five songs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's what picks up. It's so crazy. Yeah, I know. We're now in like, we're in a place

where like if you release a memoir about like, you're a troubled childhood actor with tons of trauma, then you have to go on like a sidewalk dating show to like promote your book about your... Do you ever have people in political power try and get on this show? Yeah. Really?

Do you say yes? No. Yeah? I can't, I don't know a specific example, but we definitely have in bounds from... Right. Yeah, in politics. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

You're right, though. I mean, it is what gets the most visibility, you know? Yeah. Like Zerron. Like that whole thing. Yeah. It kind of was that simple in a way. It was like, oh, the guy who's crazy good at social media and like clip farming is going to win.

It's like, he also has awesome politics, but yeah. That's how you, I just missed my mouth. That's how you reach people. It's like, yeah, it's like, it's fun. Also, if I start talking to you, I'm like, if I asked like a politician and my, my go-to question for people is when is the last time you were on a ladder? Mm-hmm. Because even though I'm asking you a question about a ladder, it's the most grounded. question and there's always a story. Because ladders level the playing field. They do. If you're on a

ladder, you're putting in work, there's a story there. You know, it's manual labor. You're climbing, you're not on a ladder for willy-nilly. When's the last time you were on a ladder? At work. Yeah. I was putting some big ass boxes up on this thing and I'm like, I should just do this. Like, I'm like the one with the most height. So let me get up on that ladder. And it was fucking pain in the ass, but I got on that ladder. What about you? I got up on a ladder over the summer in my lap. I fell. I had, well, my apartment was, I was locked out and I had to climb the scaffolding outside my apartment. And I jumped up to get on the ladder, you know, like jump from the scaffolding.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Unhooked and dropped down and like hit my face on the ladder. Really? You're always getting hit in the face with me. I know. Yeah. I mean, this old thing. You should get insurance. I have insurance.

Really? Yeah. That's sick. I know. That's kind of a flex. I, uh. You're trying to get a class action lawsuit going after this? I just like, it's every, everything's my fault every time.

It could be my fault for the right price. Well, like... There's a swing set across the street, I think. Yeah, like when I got hit by a car one time. Really? Yeah, hard. How was that? It was what?

How was that? It was interesting because I get hit by... You're on a bike? I was on a motor. I was on a bird. Oh, sick. I get hit... I want to like, I want to overlay my picture of my bruise on this.

So if people are watching, you can see it. But I got, I'm going down this hill, and it was when they switched the brakes, and it's like a thumb break now instead of like a bike. break. What's the do you in? Awesome. Okay. I'm going down this hill.

I finally find the brake and it was too late and I get hit by this car. And I was in the air for so long that I was like, I'm like horizontal and I was like, am I still in the air? That's sick. This is crazy. And then I hit the ground. And yeah, I went up two waist sizes. I went from a 30 to a 32.

Because of bruises? I guess I was hemorrhaging, low key. Yeah, me when I hemorrhage. Wow. And. Me when I hemorrhage. Yeah, it was crazy. And then when I was.

interviewing at Byrd. I think I did like six interviews. Oh wait, was this before you got the job of Byrd? Yeah. Damn. And I kept throwing and I'd be like yeah and I got hit by by a car off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm here and they're like, they were like not finding it funny the first time. And then so I was like, I'll deliver it differently the second time. Right, right, right. Working on stand-up and my job interview.

I delivered it differently. I'm second time and then my third time I did it and they were like, you need to stop telling people. Why? Because it's a really sort of subject over there. Like half of the company is Come on, man. Litigation. It's all...

Got to get a leg up. It's government and lawyers. Yeah. So many people are getting hit by cars and getting hurt. It wouldn't hurt if you had a job. It would hurt less if you had a job. Well, I didn't have insurance during that. So I just let it play out.

Yeah, my leg, like, my giant leg and me. Like, I'm limping around. I could barely get pants on. Yeah, my giant leg in me. Yeah. And I'm dragging it behind me the whole way. Mm-hmm. But it, yeah, it worked out.

That's sick. I, one time... As soon as I got... health insurance by the way I haven't gotten injured once yeah that's how it goes so annoying yeah it's like when you don't have an umbrella you get caught in the rain kind of thing or when you do have an umbrella it's hot and you're holding an umbrella well then it turns into a parasol protected from the sun like princess beach oh I gotta get I'm trying to get tan yeah that's true look at me man I mean I'm like you're glowing yeah I belong in a cave uh I saved a guy's life in front of a grocery store one time

when I was applying for a job. And I was just walking in. I was like, 17. I was like, I need a fucking job, man. And dude's in front of me in front of the red box machine. Starts foaming at the mouth. And I'm just like, he's like, and I'm like, mister, are you okay?

And then he faceplants in front of me and blood everywhere. And I'm just like, oh my God. And I roll him over and he's just blood and pus coming out of every orifice of his face. And I'm like, Jesus fucking Christ. And I support him because I know when someone's having a stroke, you have to get them like up so they don't choke on their vomit or anything. Oh, I would not have gone to stroke. I would have thought like.

I don't know. Getting them up couldn't hurt is what I thought. Yeah. And I'm like, someone calling an ambulance. And everyone looks around the parking lot. And they're like, looking at me, not doing shit. And then I yell out. I'm like, fine.

I'll call a fucking ambulance. And then I called the ambulance, ran in my car, grabbed the spare blanket in my trunk, came back over, put it on him. Also something you do when someone has a stroke. because they get really cold. I think like the shock does something to the blood temperature. And I just kind of chilled out

until the cops came and they took them away and then I walked in and applied for a job and didn't get it. Double homicide. But you got the job of bird. Yeah, I did.

So everything was, all the wrongs were righted. Yeah, and they get fired after like six or seven weeks. Really? Because of COVID? Yeah. Okay.

I got let go over a Zoom. And it was funny because it was like our head of, head of marketing put us all into, like a, was it multi-fire? It was 500,

yeah, people. And it was crazy because, like, I get this meeting invite and I'm on with my, my boss's boss. I'm on a phone call.

We're, like, catching up. Yeah. And I'm walking around. And I had, I didn't ever get the remote work. Like, I,

when I was in an office, like, it was pre-everybody works remote. So it was, like, very much in the office. So I thought it was like, so cool that I was, like,

taking a call and I'm like not even in the office. Yeah. And I'm like, I got to jump. I got to go into this other meeting. And she goes, what meeting could you be in that I'm not in? And I was like, oh, I don't know, I'll send you an invite. Probably a really important one. Yeah. And I sent her the invite and and then I hop on. And I have it recorded, me getting let go. Why do you record it just for like legal reasons just in case? Well, I got a feeling in my stomach that this was going to be like a nefarious phone call because. You loki can always tell when you're going to get fired. Well, it was a pre-recorded message. And it goes, hello. It, hey,

It was like Hunger Games. Yeah. Hello. Hello. And I could see every like 400 people on this call and I was like this is, you know, maybe it's like a COVID update. Hello. We've decided to inform you that you have been selected to no longer work here.

Wow. Congret. Like it was like that. And then I'm filming and it's funny. I think it was like a Friday morning and my friends all were still like not in the office that I was living with during COVID. And they were having champagne and mimoses because they weren't in the office. It was Friday and it was Friday and they weren't in the office.

And I was like, sorry, you guys, some of us have to work. Yeah. And I go downstairs, I get fired, and I turn it right around. I go, seriously, I go, give me the bottle. Yeah, dude. Oh, my God. They laid me off. And then if anyone takes anything away right now, it's that if you have a work laptop,

do not do personal stuff on it. Oh, I mean, that mistake. Because when I've gotten let go, they just wipe the computer. And it's like, I had my lease on there. I had my, like, a bunch of, like, things I'd been working on, like, like a Photoshop type situation, Photoshop. Photoshop wipes. Resumet. Resumays gone. Yeah.

And they wiped it and then it was funny because I was like an hour, staying an hour away from my apartment in L.A. I bailed on my lease, which I've still I've still. I had that fan out. Well, I didn't have an income. I think it was just like a Yeah. What was the handchecked deal with naked lady? That was a two-week situation. Okay, so this is with friends. Yeah. Okay. Clothed. Yeah. Good. Excellent. Except one of them. He was kind of always in his underwear. good shape. Good enough.

Yeah. Yeah. But, yeah, I had to get out of that lease. And then they were like, you, they had given me a scooter. And they were like, you need to return that. I'm like, I'll just burn my ass over to the office. You can come get it. It's like 400 pounds.

I'm not going to go. And they go, you can keep it. Nice. I don't want a bird scooter. Did you sell it? I gave it to my aunt and a little who lived down there. But, yeah, I. Yeah, I also made the work laptop mistake because I was doing everything off a Chromebook.

And then my company was like, do you want a Mac? And I was like, sure, that sounds cool. My only question was, can I use garage band on this thing? And they were like, yeah, we don't care. And I had like a lot of music made on that. And I thought they were just going to let me keep it. And the last they did not. And I did a little haggling.

Still lost everything I made on that laptop. But I had another one after that. So I'd like, enough, enough good stuff. Yeah. To not be mad about it. It's okay. I can't relate. I lost everything.

Really? What would you get back if you could? I don't remember what I used to do. Like, I don't remember what I used to do. What were you photoshopping? I don't know. I have no idea what I was doing, but I had a lot of files. But I wanted to do.

Yeah, of course. Yeah. It's sick to have files. Yeah. Like a dossier. You know what that is? No. It's like a collection of files and it sounds like really menacing.

If you want to fuck with someone, just text them, like, yo, I'm about to release the dossier. That's like bad news. Oh, I'm going to start using dossier. Yeah, yeah, yeah, dossier. It's like Epstein files. Ray's dossier. Oh, yeah, totally like Epstein. Don't you know I got a dossier going for me?

That's the title, raise dossier. Raise dossier, babe. No, yeah, I, like, it's weird thinking about, there was one time at work. I shared my screen. This is the first and last time I've ever shared my screen. Yeah, never shared. I was only in a professional setting.

Right. Truly, like, in an office before I started doing this for such a short time. Yeah. A lot of the things that I was doing in the office were like my first time I was presenting at a meeting I go to share my screen. I shared a window and the window I shared was 17 LinkedIn tabs applying to other jobs. That's wonderful. And I started to close out and they kept pot like the other one would pop up and I was like and I didn't know how to unshare it.

It was like for my job at other company like competitor companies. I was like I just hated the job so much. Damn. Yeah. I made the mistake one day of, I made a lot of mistakes. mistakes, but I- Such as life. Yeah, no, I just like, one day I was like, I'm not like

doing anything at this job, like, low-key, I... Let's get open 17 LinkedIn tab. So bored. Fucking go. And my boss is so cool that she was like, if you're done with your work, you can go home. But I was like, I'm so broke and I, they have free food there.

So I was like, I'm just staying here to eat my three meals. Exactly. I'm going to go to a supply closet, hang out for a couple hours, come back at dinner time, get the rest of the food, then go home on my bird scooter. I looked like, you know, when you get those. ads on TikTok and it's like, hey, fatty, your cortisol is high.

And I'm like, I know. Like, I looked like the before, because I was eating so many peanut M&Ms. Yeah. Which were really, like, showing up in my face. The top two M&Ms right there. The peanut Eminemones?

Yeah, top two are pretzel and peanut. I'm not seeing you or hearing you with the pretzel, but I stand with you. Let's go get some after this. Yeah. Let's get a beer and a shitload of pretzel M&Ms. I think that's... I'd be effing with them.

Yeah. I'd be effing with them heavy. There's like a lid for you. for every pot. Yeah. Is that what they say? Is that like, wait, what the fuck does that mean?

Lid for every pot? It's like when, when the crazy couple that, or like, there's a, there's a girl that I went to college with that's just like. Insane.

Truly, truly, truly so unique. Yeah. That I was like. A good way or like, a not a good way? Just very unique. She's, I would call her a friend.

Mm-hmm. Okay. And I just think she's just, and then she gets engaged to, like, you know, this like, good looking dude. And I'm like, there's a lid for every pot. Like, she was meant to find this person and I, I, I, they must be a match or she has a

gun. So. Maybe he has a gun too. Yeah. They're a match. Yeah. It's great. You think it's hard to date in New York?

No. Why is that? There's just so many people. Yeah. I think there's like 13 women for every one man. Really? Yeah. Oh.

Which is crazy. But I kind of feel like, you can go on a lot of dates. but the cruel fact of life is there's probably only like there's like many fish in the sea, there's many lids, many pots, there's probably only like five lids that are really going to rock at any given moment in New York. Like here and there. Yeah.

Yeah. Like no, it's not my priority right now. Yeah. Priorities moving out of the. Yeah, I was going to say, I didn't want to say, like I didn't want to go there, but we were like, should we go back to mine and have you done that? Absolutely. That's so funny.

Absolutely. I would be like, oh my God, Ray is just going to murder me tonight. Yeah, it's a little like lovely bones pilled. Yeah. But, but. I'm glad you, this, yeah. Yeah, I'm glad that you know that. Yeah.

But I don't know. I guess there is a lead for every pot because sometimes it's just like, there's a really lovely woman who's like cool with that. Yeah. And she's like, I feel safe even though this is like kind of fucking weird. And it's sick. And you have a great time. I'm sure it's very cool.

Like, it's, it's, I spent the winter there. It was nuts. That is great. Well, I just, I think that there is a young woman out there that's like, that is so perfect for her story that she's creating. You know, like, I'm seeing this girl that's like parents work in private equity, but like she's different, you know, even though like she's spending the summers in Europe.

Exactly. She's spending the evenings and Ray's storage. I know. Well, sometimes when you're talking to someone, everything's going really well and you tell them like, yeah, so I'm kind of in like living in a shipping container right now, they're I was like, so when do you plan on getting out of that? And I'm like, pitch like yesterday. Yeah.

Come on. You know? As soon as something changes fundamentally in my life, I'm getting the fuck out of there. Yeah. And it's going to be awesome when I do. That's, I mean, obviously a little different, but like I, like, I just need to, I need to get into my own home. I was in hotels for a little bit. Do you like hotels?

I love hotels. Not New York, though. Oh, really? They're a billion dollars. And also, all of them, they're like, I have, all I have very name is my big suitcase. That's all my clothes. That's sick. That's why everyone, like, I'm starting to get comments from people online that are like,

didn't you wear that shirt yesterday? Really? Yeah. And tomorrow. Yeah. And last week. I only have three shirt. You're going to ring that shit out of for this episode. I only have three shirt.

And people are starting to notice my three shirt. Yeah. The rumors about me having three shirt? True. I think that's cool, though, because you're like a cartoon character in that way. Yeah. And it's your job to be a personality. I restart my dumb life every day and it's the exact same thing.

You think Bart Simpson has more than one shirt? He might have like 11 of the same. Which is what you should probably do. Yeah, I did actually, I got another shirt today, so I have four shirt. What'd you get? Good. No. Well, I mean, yeah, it's just a T-shirt.

Sick. It's a yellow T-shirt from Abercrombie and Fitch. Oh, yeah. They're kind of coming back, right? They're awesome. They just opened a new store on Broadway. Oh, yeah? It's huge.

Those old catalogs from, like, the early 2000s are raunchy. They're very horny. Very horny. The thing came out. Yeah. The documentary came out, and it was like... What documentary? About them?

About Abercrombie and Fitch. And the way that they would cast everybody. It was just like... That seems sick. The dude was horny. Like, the dude was so, so sexually charged that it was like... Yeah, like, dog chandy vibe. But it, like...

It is crazy. She had a fucking vibe, let's say that. It was weird having coming of age, and, like, I'm being marketed sex for, like... I know. I know, and you're probably, like, 12 years old. My ripped jeans, and it's like... Yeah. And that gust from the mall comes, hits you after, like, the Annie Anns, and you're just like, oh, what is this feeling? And it's like, it's Abercrombian Fitch.

I'm oversh. sharing a little bit here, but like, I do relate, like, the smell of that column. Like, when I smell that, I'm like, it reminds me of, like, being a boy. Being a boy, but like, in a bad way, like, all of the, all the scary, the scary things that happened to a young man, like, it reminds me of like, it reminds me of, like, learning things. I know exactly what you mean. Yeah. I know exactly what you mean. And it's, that was also kind of exciting. It's, it's not. No, it is exciting. But it frees me how and I smell it now, because it's like, yeah. Like, what is it? I was, I was talking to someone the day. I was, I was talking to

one of the day, especially with smell, because smell is like the most powerful, like, memory scent recognition thing. And we're talking about aesthetics, and we're talking about, you ever listen to, or like, not listen to, but like, look into like the Wiki aesthetics where it's a global coffee house. You ever hear about this? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

It's like Barnes & Noble Cafe back in the day. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. The girl put your records on. Yeah. He's playing. They have the Beatles One and Bob Marley Gold for sale, and it smells. like you're in the womb.

You are comforted. You know what? That doesn't exist anymore? Because everyone drinks ice coffee. The smell of hot coffee is different than the smell of ice coffee and it's not the same. And so I think that level of comfort,

you don't sit in an oversized plush chair when you're drinking ice coffee or a matcha. You're drinking and like, you're sitting in like a prison stool, okay? I want the friend's couch. I want a mug that I can barely hold that's burning the shit out of my fingertips. And I want corn.

Ryan Bailey Ray bump in out of the speaker and I want to be just like out of the coffee cup like I'm home at the global coffee house aesthetic really aligned you know what I mean I do know what you mean yeah I have not you just woke up something inside right yeah where like I was sitting on on a on a prison school yeah and I'm like all of the all of the furniture now is just like I like Ikea whatever because they want you to get out they do want you to get out oh my god whatever happened to just lounging around putting your records on dude for real, that song's so fucking good. Oh, it is really good. She was just, she just went, and I don't know what current Bailey Ray is up to, but she,

I just saw a TikTok of her. Was she at the school? She was at the school. Yeah, and she's like crying. Yeah. She's like, I just singing the song. It was so sweet. And I was like, there was something about that kind of music, too, like that, Nora Jones.

Even like that early Maroon 5, like cold play, yellow. I'm feeling kind of sad and sick. Like, all that is music, I think, for adults. and I like that. It's like you listen to this. You go to the coffee shop. You probably work at Apple and it's 2004. And everything's fucking awesome.

You know? Like no recession. Like optimism. Like the tech will save us all. You're just having the best time. You're drinking your big ass cup of coffee. You know? And it's you go to that coffee shop and later you go home to like your loving partner

and you probably make dinner together once again to Coran Bailey raise, Girl put your records on and you're having like a bottle of wine and you're a fucking adult and I feel like music doesn't cater to that specific type of person anymore And that makes me sad I don't know I say it man yeah I say it. I'll say it right here I want adult music adult music and it reminds me of my parents what do they listen to? Well they was nor I remember we had this like big massive like machine in our in our in our in our entertainment console, which is like... So sick. Yeah, and at the bottom, it was all CDs.

But we had like a six disc changer. Yeah, those are sick. And you'd press like seven. Yeah. And then it'd play like track one from, yeah, or six. But you'd play whatever track from disc six. And I remember, because it was like, it was like Santana and Nora Jones. Yeah.

And it was like that vibe. And I remember my mom would like put it on every night. And it was like the vibe of like living. growing up in your parents. I mean like 8 p.m. happens and like there's me thing and you're like eating dinner and epic vibe you have homework I know I think about going to grad school sometimes but I really like have a fear of homework there was one night I bombed so bad at a comedy show that I walked out my set was supposed to be 12 minutes I did six minutes I called it yeah the last thing I said was like does anyone have a gun can you toss it up here for me like did that

was like just like cherry on top of right right right and I walked out and I just got straight in my car. I didn't even say by it anyone. When was this? A couple years, like three years ago. And I just looked up grad school. And I just in general, like, no specific. I was just like, I need to be in grad school.

I need to be learning something. I need a dunce cap in grad school right now. And I got like to the application and I think I did one page of the application. They were like, you can't even be on this application. Like you are not allowed. So imagine bombing a set in grad school in general. You can't do, you can't do this either. God damn

Yeah Go ahead and try to find your resume That you made on Photoshop That you don't have anymore What would you go to grad school for If you could Anything Spelling

It's a good one Anthropology Is that a thing Yeah I'd probably I'd probably go for like For history Or like creative writing

History I like history That's what I'm gonna do Yeah Sick vibe Where are we right now Yeah Oh we're at writing

Yeah Okay cool That's what I thought Okay cool We can do We should wrap with something really fun Do you have like a gnarly story That you wanted to share before we dip?

Yeah This, by the way Mm-hmm Please take it from me and my shaky hand Like, do not It's a lot This I'm about to shit my pants I'm shaking and I'm sweating so much

No, it's opposite I am In shambles This makes me shudder Yeah And I regret it And I'm gonna just look at how many Milligrams of caffeine

I had on an empty stomach A lot of potassium That's good Probably why you want to shit Yeah It's gonna not tell me how many Which is probably smart Mm-hmm

Okay Awesome Yeah I'm tossing it over to you So we'll wrap on our I'll do like lightning round two Last Sickest Framing Stories I don't talk about my favorite people that came in Yeah, yeah, dude

So on the Upper West, you know who Harry Belafonte is? Thank you. I don't, I'm lying. Fuck! I know somebody, I tell this so many people. He's the king of Calypso. You ever seen Beetlejuice?

Jump in line, the scene where they're fucking dancing around the stairs? That's a Herbalafonte song. Banana boat, Angelina. Oh, manza, zama da, da, da. I don't know. I can't confirm or deny that. Okay.

But Harry Belafonte is the king of Calypso. Um, just music icon. Uh, both of his ex-wives used to come to the frame shop and get stuff framed. Both named Julie. So Julie one comes down and she's old as shit.

Old as shit has like two helpers with her. She's like, she's getting into her years, right? And we help her out and it's all good. She can like barely see. And she took a liking to me because I'm like, you know, a spry young buck. Sure. Yeah.

Uh, and we help her and it's all good. And then Julie two comes in. Oh, not Julie two. I think they both kept the last name Belafonte. Yeah, I would. They're competing for the title of Harry's ex-wife. And so I asked Julie too, I'm like, yo, like, are you, are you Julie's daughter?

Like, are you Julie, because the other Julie Belafonte comes in, she goes, no, I'm Harry's third ex-wife. I'm the one he died on. And I'm like, oh. Congrats. And she was considerably younger. Julie won. So Harry was singing some dick for real. And I just really like that. I really got me into Harry Belafonte after that. Civil rights icon. Like amazing dancer. I like that they kept the name because I'm doing this thing right now. My buddy Tyler, his last name is Swift. Yeah. And so I sometimes will, Kai and I will use his Rezi map under his name and we'll put it down under Tyler Swift. We get that. Oh, because they just don't see it. No, it just says Tyler. They're Swift and it's like so close that I, and that's his legit name and it like, things for people and they're like, this is so close to Taylor that we get the reservation every single time. Damn, that's sick.

Shout out dyslexia. I know. Right? Yeah. Just misreading that little bit. I'm getting it, by the way. Like I'm. Yeah, you got the plug.

Some things have happened recently where I'm like, I saw a license plate the other day. It was like E74LA. And I was like, Alex Earl? I thought that's... You saw what you wanted to see. Yeah. That's pretty sick. Yeah.

The other thing, the coolest thing I framed, because I get that question a lot, it was a gun. A gun. It was a Lugar pistol, once again on 72nd. Walked in with a wrapped up in a pillowcase. So can you frame this? And thank God it was the end of the day, because I locked that door. And I said, hell, yeah, we can.

And we framed the shit out of that gun. What? Why the pillowcase? So no one saw it. It was like in her purse and then she took it out of her purse. Ooh. And she had the gun. She hurt?

She was like a vixen. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Oh. Yeah. She just killed Belafonte. With her love, perhaps. No, I think it was her grandfather's who was like some like CIA type dude. He was up in the Balkans like getting into all sorts of shit.

And this was his like gun that he took on all the missions. And she was getting it framed. And she was like, I'm going to put this on my mantle. And I'm like, you're the coolest lady I've ever had. That is cool. That's fucking dope. Yeah, and to have a mantle, that's awesome. Who can afford that?

There's, like, different things that people say where it's like, we're not going to see eye-to-eye. Like, in-unit laundry to me for a long time was like, if you had that, like, I just really, like, can't even have a conversation with you as peers. Because when you have in-unit laundry and washer dryer, it's like, your life genuinely is different than people that have to, like, go out. to do their laundry. Yeah. I, my hot take, though, one of my many hot takes, I actually don't mind doing laundry at the laundromat because I always playing extreme sports on the TV.

And you go in, it's like, it's like leveling experience. Like, we're just showing up. You always see, like, the hottest girl you've ever seen in your entire life doing laundry and you're like, amazing. I would love to hang out at the laundromat, but I don't want to do, I can't do, I... You're busy. Just thinking about going and batting that into the day is just, it's overwhelmed.

I always like it as like an afterwork activity. Mine's really close to my place, so I'll go over, do the laundry, go get a bite to eat, sometimes go get a beer. Do you leave while your laundry's in the thing? Oh, yeah. Do people not steal? No, what are they going to steal? Your laundry? Oh, they want my socks and underwear.

If it's nice. It gets the job done. Okay. I always time it, though, so I get back and it's like, it's finishing up. Okay. And then you read your book, watch some extreme sports. And then it's just like strike up a conversation, start talking to some people, you know? And it's like, that was actually kind of nice.

That does sound nice. It's like a third space. Everyone's like, we don't have any third spaces anymore. It's like, go to the laundromat. Maybe I will. You should. I'm going home. Let's go together.

Home. Let's hang out. We'll post up with the laundromat. That's a perfect way to wrap. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Ray, thank you so much for coming on. Thank you, my friend. Save me this week.

Thank you for having me. And we'll do it again when Brooks back. And I will say, I am a framer. And I'm quite a good framer. Yeah. But I'm a lot of other things. and I will use this opportunity to say if anyone out there in the podcasting either

is interested in many projects I'm involved with, whether that be writing, advertising, creative writing, music, please, please, please get in touch. Yeah, and do you want to play your band too? We'll get a couple more monthly follower or listeners. Yeah, I'll plug the down and outs. I'll plug same vein, monoblock, flycatcher, the Madeline's.

These are all my friends' bands. Oslo, Astoria, couch prints. Oh, God. People are going to be mad at me if I don't include their band. There's definitely one more. Morning Silk.

My good friend Franks just released this project. It's really good. Shout out Frank. Yeah, shout out Frank. But that's all I got a plug. I think so much for having me. Thanks for coming on.

Thank you. Sorry. Sorry. All right. Thank you guys for listening. Thank you for listening. back next week, she will be wrapping up her amazing tour. And we are proud of her and we love her. Shout out, bro. Yeah, you'll meet her. Sick. Yeah, let's do it again. All right. Thank you guys.

Bye-bye. Bye-bye. Bye.