Brooke and Connor Make A Podcast - Real Eyes Realize Real Lies

Episode Date: May 21, 2026

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Wayfair, every style, every home. Hi, welcome back to Brooke and Connor, make a podcast. Hi. Welcome back. I can't stop thinking about that photo you posted me on your Snapchat story last night where I looked completely. I looked otherworldly. But it was like funny.

No, because it was like. funny because you don't look like that well i was kind of excited to see it like because i kind of was like i'm sitting chilling like i like my outfit like i can't wait to see that photo later the chum bucket that's what it looked like an advertising advertising for the chum bucket it had a nice amount of screenshots it was funny it wasn't even like a oh candid i'm walking but like a bad i'm sitting there relaxing yeah it's like a funny bad picture you're fine you will be fine it's a bad picture you will be okay. It had how many screenshots? I don't know. Check. You will be so fine. How many screenshots? That's just like a, just like a tough nut to swallow. It had. No, don't tell me. Yeah, tell me.

111? Six figures? No. Three figures? Yeah. You're, you're going to pull through. You know what? I know you are. Mine had a lot of screenshots yesterday, too. I think it might be a glitch. I don't think that many, because I post yesterday, All I've eaten today is ham. Yeah. And it has 192 screenshots. Okay. Can I see the picture?

It was a good picture. It was a good picture. Let me see. I think it was good. Let me see then. Good, not great. I didn't say it was great. There must be a glitch.

You're right. My round, I looked, you know what? What? You're not going to give right now, but I started taking creatine. Are you bulking? No, that was just like suggested to start taking creatine. and I guess you start withholding water. Withholding?

I don't know, holding taking on water. Oh, having a little water weight. Retaining, retaining. Retaining. Yeah, so there's like some sort of retaining while happening, and I think it's only in my face. You're fine. Look at that picture again. Look at that picture again.

It's a bad picture. Yeah, but that was my natural state. No, let's, we're moving. When I'm sitting, okay. You do look at that. really tan though. I sat out yesterday. That's not artificial at all? No. Why did you just smile like that? Because I'm excited. Are you lying? No, I'm excited that you think that it looks artificial. You look really tan, yeah. Thank you. It's nice. That's what happens when I come to California.

Yeah. Say a little bit. Say a little bit. Say a little bit. I live here. I haven't been, I haven't left California this month and it is, what's today? It's the 20th. Say, say, say a while. Thanks. Yeah. You might, you might find out you like it. I do like it. It's really nice. Give it a chance. We were laughing yesterday because Brooke is going for Memorial Day, like the group of theirs is going, and she looked up to the weather yesterday and found it to be in the 50s and cloudy and raining of thunderstorm.

Lower 50s. What did you say to me? House on the beach. I'll be in the lower 50s for now. Rain and thunder. I appreciate that. And then Connor was like, oh, it's not bad. It might turn around.

It might turn around. And I was like, well, what are you doing for Memorial Day? And he was like, oh, I'm staying here. The weather's amazing. Thank you so much. Shake around. You might like it. I just like, I planned so many things months and months ago when I was mentally well.

And I was like, all of these things will be fun. Like I want to celebrate Phoebe. And now that I've entered this space of mental unwellness that she's nearing, I'm like, why did I, why did I do anything? Why did I plan this beach trip? That's four more days away. I plan this big party. Like, why did I do that?

Like, why did I, I did so much? And now that we're here, it's like, what was she thinking? I'm thinking, she was thinking that she really wanted to celebrate. But I'm fine now. Like, I'm good. Yeah. I want to rest. Like, I'm already tired and nothing started.

I'm so grateful and excited more than, more than everything. Oh, God. Those are that saying. But I'm definitely experiencing. some mental trials and tribulations. Some restlessness. Some, yeah, some restless leg syndrome and shit like that. And obviously, like, no one thought I was going to be doing well, like, with the release of a debut novel.

Like, that wasn't expected for me to do well. And I'm fine. And that's great and that's fine. And so it's just the expected is happening. And that's all good. And we're ready for it. And we're going to push through and it's going to be amazing. And I can't wait.

and I won't see you next week because I will be I'll have I'll be away I'm coming No I so next week will we have an episode Izzy So we will not have an episode at all next week In honor of

Miss Febebebebe She will be out next week Phoebe fever That's nausea Wait But I'm recording while you're away Yeah but there will be no episode There will be no episode next week I don't know when you're recording,

but then there will be two episodes without me. Yes. So I'll be gone for three. Yeah. Well, not just me. We're going to have someone, someone will be on in her. In my,

in amazing. In her stead. Yeah, in my stead. So I'll be gone, and I will miss you all deeply. Please keep me in your thoughts. I'm so excited. I'm extremely nauseous.

Everything should be good. And I'm very sick. It's going to be amazing. That's like a learning moment, too, because a lot of times, like, the things that you build up, a great celebration would be to go home and hit the hay, you know, but you don't realize that. But cool.

Now you know that like when you release it and you put out a bunch of things and you're working really hard and it's, and it is up, maybe give it a week before you decide to hit the town, you know? Well, my therapist was saying, because I was like, why did I do this? What was I thinking? I'm so stupid. Blah, blah, blah.

And she was like, that was still you that really wanted to celebrate. And like she is still in there. Yeah. You know, like, that was you. So I have to trust myself. Yeah, you're reaping what you, what you sow. Yeah, at one point in time, I believed this was cause for celebration. And it is.

It's from where I'm sitting. I'm excited to go to that party. Yeah. So, thank you. You're welcome. You're giving. That is another weird thing about celebrating your personal win is that like, it's for other people, kind of.

Like, I'm excited to go to that party. you're like I would like to go to bed. Ooh, yeah. It's almost like... Oh my God, yeah. Sorry, I'm really like nauseous. Yeah, that's okay. It'll be fun.

No, I know, I know, I know, I know. I love the idea of reaping what you sow. Remember the correlation we talked about a long time ago about reaping what you sow? No. It's just like such a correlation between reaping and sewing, which is so direct. Like you've worked so hard. and you're about to sew, so hard, you know? You know, but it's not sewing, you know, like stitching, right?

Yeah, it's sewing as in harvesting your crops. And then on the other side, if you're not really sewing, you're not going to reap much, which is really, it's hard, that's a tough nut to swallow too. Okay. Sorry. It's okay. Are you going to throw up, do you think? No, I'm not.

I'm not going to throw up. But this has been for like two weeks. I've just been like on the brink. Yeah. Thank you. It's okay. Sorry if I'm weird. It's fine.

My dog also died. Yeah, your dog did die. Do you want to go into dog now or do you want to? It's just been, it's just been an emotional time. Yeah. I'm not going to cry. Okay. But it is weird.

My, my childhood dog died. And it's just, it's just. When it rains, of course. When it rains it pours. Yeah. It just very much feels like the end of the end of an era and ushering in a new one. And it's really scary. Like she was the last piece of my youth.

She was, we got, I got her when I was in high school. And it's really like that time is, is done. I am like, it feels really symbolic and in a heavy way. That was exactly what happened. That's why I kind of didn't talk about it on the podcast when it happened to me. Was like, I kind of don't want to acknowledge that in a concrete way. Yeah. With my words and put it out in the space.

But been there and that's not fun. So I'm sorry. It's okay. It's just like, wow, you get a dog when you're 17 and then she dies right before you turn 30. Okay. Heavy, heavy, heavy. Yeah. Anyway, I love you, Cleo.

You're a good dog. Rest in power, Cleo. Yeah, and she is. She's amazing. Yeah. I um were we together when I talked about my my my first dog and his yeah the school bus yeah I was talking about that the other day and kind of as like an icebreaker and it doesn't like you'll get to a space where it's like it is weird and transformative

to like have that animal represent a part of your life and like that's a part of you that's like okay wait that was my last like keepsake of that time yeah and then it will be like a memory that's like oh remember this was like a big piece of me that I held here and then you kind of release it in that way and me talking about my dog getting hit by a school bus fulfilled up with children on their way to school that will that's also probably pretty transformed but they probably have that memory that stayed with them too so that's that's rusty's legacy which i in a in a comedic sense i do appreciate that he he did that yeah he left us in that you know what andrew garfield said what did i don't know this is not so much about rusty but rest and power rest and power i wonder if he's with cleo

100% and sake and sake well you know what's amazing really quick before you tell us about louis hamilton what's it andrew garfield um he's a race car driver i don't i never don't keep up with it don't know why that i was thinking hamilton anyways Soki dug up Rusty in the backyard. Wow. Max dug up sake. The baton is being passed

from the afterlife. Wow. Which I think is true the bone is being passed through the afterlife. Wow. And they're tapping each other in like that TikTok trend.

That's, yeah. How beautiful. Digging them up. I'm like, dad, maybe let's stop bearing the dogs like in the backyard. It is genuinely the same. circle of life. Yeah, it is. And it happens. Tell us what Woody Allen. I can't remember what his

name is. Stop. You know who he is. Andrew Garfield. No, I just can't remember his name right now. He said that grief is just all of the love, all the unexpressed love for that person. Hang on. I'm going to get there. I just need to think. Grief is like it when you're expressing. grief. It's all the Andrew Garfields. It's just all the love that you can express. I hope this grief stays with me because it's all the unexpressed love that I didn't get to tell her. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's good. Yeah. It is. And grief looks like many things. You can look so different to so many people. Grief could, grief could look for you like celebrating Phoebe because that could also be a rest in power, Cleo. Well, Cleo will be with me during the tour,

which is nice. That she'll be looking down on me. That's nice. From doggy heaven. I saw the craziest TikTok I've ever seen this this woman I follow who's me too you go first well I'm not going to be able to quote it because it was like the deepest I just commented hashtag affected me underneath her TikTok because I wanted if people saw it like every time they like it you know you get to go back to the video and it was she was talking about her weekend with a co-worker and she was like time is weird can I just play it sure it's it's like it's gonna be like a banker so Okay. We may have to take our time with it.

I love that. Yeah. Well, basically, just pay attention to what she says about dogs and time passing. Okay. Because it really was like, whoa. Like perspective type shit. Let me pull it up. Okay.

How was your weekend? Hi. Okay. I started thinking I was just wasting time. What were you doing? Nothing. Just because you're doing nothing doesn't mean you're wasting time. Yeah, but what is time if you don't do something with it?

I don't know. Ask a dog. I read once that dogs have a faster metabolism than people, and because of that, time moves more slowly for them. No wonder they're always so hungry at dinner. Did you know that dogs smell time? They do? If they can't smell you anymore, that's how they know you've been gone a long time. One time I tripped and I fell in slow motion,

but I hit the ground at full speed. Did it hurt? The full speed part hurt a lot. Full speed always hurts more. That's why I don't like to drive fast. That's kind of how my weekend felt. When I was doing it, it felt like slow motion. But when it was over, it felt like full speed.

Maybe you should stop looking at clocks and start smelling time. Then I'd never make it back to my desk. I know. So I can't remember how that related. That's a tough one. It's a thinker. To start to even think about teasing apart. Right.

What part? Especially the part when she said that the weekend was in slow motion, but then when it was over, it was full speed ahead. I think she said that about falling. No, she said it about the weekend when her weekend was in slow motion. But then at the end, it was full speed, which that I don't get. It's just like on Sunday, you're like, oh my God, I was looking forward to the weekend. And now it's Sunday at 4 p.m.

and it's like this was like the weekend and now it's over. I don't think I've taken, I took anything away from that. Okay. I thought it was interesting that she said that dogs metabolize faster so time moves slower. So they live like a very full life on a shorter timeline than us and they smell time. So like they smell it based on whatever scent that you leave. That makes sense that time has been moving really fast for me because I've been extremely slow metabolism. Oh, I was like, are you, do you have?

congestion. No, I have a slow metabolism. Maybe you should start smelling time. I'm going to try. Yeah. It is an interesting one. Like when things stop smelling, you're like, oh, that much time is past that like my car doesn't smell like that rotissory chicken I ate last week. Well, sometimes you can smell time in the sense that smells transport you. Like, when I, there's this one hand sanitizer that we used in third grade that is just like the most the biggest smell in my life I think would be that hand sanitizer and I remember I smelled it once in 12th grade again and it was I was just had the most existential pit in my stomach like I can't believe that all that time has passed and I like felt like a third grade like I was just so aware of time when I smelled that hand sanitizer again if I were to

smell that hand sanitizer now I would drop dead. That's how I feel about the hand sanitizer that everyone seemed to have during COVID. That was just like 99% alcohol. Do you remember that? They used to have these big sacks. It wasn't Pure L. It was just off there. No, it was like this crazy hands.

Does anyone know what I'm talking about? The like big sacks of 100% alcohol we used to put on like before eating. I smell that now. This hand sanitizer was it actually smells. smelled so good. It was this large blue foamy bottle. Similar to the

white barn neutrals. We just put all over ourselves in the ad reads. It was, is he, would you mind looking up large bottle of blue foamy

hand sanitizer for schools? That should do it. I'm sure it could be used anywhere else as well. But. Oh. No, they don't, they don't have,

no. It's the, like the inside is blue foam. I don't. Summer Breeze makes me feel nice. I think it's dead. It died with my youth. It's up there with Cleo.

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Oh, why? I got to go home. You know, it makes me sad when I think about it. What? I wanted to be cool so bad and I think it was junior high and I had really bad allergies. I still do. Paulin really affects me. I was pretty self-conscious about my body. I couldn't touch grass and I was so I would put where I had to always be on shirts because I was allergic to the grass and I was like that's God. God's real and he's with me here that I can't take my shirt off. You know, just play shirts and skins. I was always shirts. And it was 420 and I knew about bunch of guys had smoked weed before school. And I took some grass from outside and I rubbed it on my face and I made my eyes swell up completely almost shut. Because you wanted to look like you smoked too.

And I was in so much physical pain I could barely see. But I was like as long as they think and they thought I was they actually, I passed the point of being, oh, that's cool. You burn. To like you can't. To like you are too crazy for us. Like we're like not comfortable being around you or talking to you. That was like, what up, fella.

My throat's closing up. And I was like, I'm, this is sick. Sorry, I'm so stone. I have the munchies. Where's the cheerie up? Like, did you guys bring any food? It was great, it was really uncomfortable. Yeah, no, that sounds super uncomfortable.

And I didn't go home because I was like, I want everybody to see me at every one of my class. Yeah. I'm not kidding. Like, I think this, there was one side of my face where I genuinely did have, it had spread down my face. Because anytime I would touch that, like, fresh grass, that fresh cut. grass, swollen. Yeah. I used to wish so badly that I had more allergies. Have you gotten tested for

allergies? Yes, I'm only really allergic to oak trees, which like, that doesn't do much for me. When I went in for this last rash I had, I don't think I ever came here when I had this last rash, my most recent rash. They took me in. I was like, I need like a shot. I need like a steroid shot. this is insane. And they took me in there like, we're just going to test you to see what you're allergic for. And they take this, have you seen this thing? It's this big. It's the size of like a MacBook, but long. And they, and I don't have like a ton of real estate on my forearm. I have like pretty, it's just pretty much like skin over my whatever bone. And so, but they, it took up my entire arm and it's like a grid and they push it and they inject you with everything. No, I had single needles

when I got one. Oh my, it's just like one big push. Did it hurt? And it didn't hurt. That reminds me that toy that you used to like press in, you know, that was all those like. It was like that. Not needles, but like adjacent, almost like screws. It was like that.

It pricked and prodded me. And then my whole arm swelled up and they go, oh, you're allergic to about all these. Wow. And they're like, do not it. Do not itch it. This arm now double the size of my other arm. What was it all just like stuff you can find in nature? Oak tree, pollen.

I was like, that's why I'm here. I know I'm allergic to that. I need a shot in my neck. Where are our oak trees? Like, why are they such a big offender? Are they just everywhere? I couldn't tell you. I couldn't pick out of an oak.

Is he? Okay, so that's just like every tree I've ever seen. Yeah. Oh, no, they're gorgeous and they're beautiful. Wow. Look at the way they're built. Oh, yeah. Wow, the mighty oak.

That's like sad that like that's like the strongest tree and you say like the mighty oak and like we're so weak. We're allergic to it. Oh, well, it's just like reminding you constantly. Remember the oak. Yeah, remember who made you. Remember where you came from. Remember who's boss?

Remember your roots. Yeah. And remember who's Papa. It's the Mighty Oak. The Mighty Oak is Papa. So, oh, from Maine to Texas. Okay. It's not in every U.S. state except Alaska and Hawaii.

Idaho has native oaks. Do you feel like your, like, your allergies? are really bad when you're in Idaho? Everywhere. At some season in every area, I'm allergic to something. Yeah. I think California has like really, really bad pollen. Pollin's a big one for me. Pollin.

Yeah, well, pollen will get you. But like swelling of the face and throat and ears and neck. Yeah. It's whatever. Do you take any medication? I forget. You should. I know. I have Zirtec in my wallet. Zier. It looks like I have a condom 24-7. It's a big, it's a Zyrtec.

That's hot. Yeah. I'm like check it out it's a Zyrotech that I won't take it's for an emergency because it either I can't remember

it either keeps me up at night or it makes me tired and I can't remember what it is. Probably sleepy Can we double check this is a learning episode for me and my allergies

in my body I feel like just because it's like Benadryl makes you sleepy so Zyrot can make you drowsy Zyrtec yeah

yeah take it before bed but I'm not allergic in bed I'm asleep I don't want to take it before It's tough. It's really hard. I can't get over me showing you that video thinking I was like showing you Carl Jung like

groundbreaking information and I didn't even understand it the sake of time. I must have been really tired when I watched that. Oh, the TikTok that I saw on the way here was so upsetting and I would never truly never mom shame anyone except for this woman. Okay. She like and she thought she like did something with this. This video was set to like lullaby like sweet music and she, it was. It was, the caption was like, I have a metaphobia.

So like a fear of throwing up. Oh. So my husband is taking care of our son with the stomach virus outside. And it was her filming her husband and son on a mattress in the driveway. And he like had a like bucket and like blankets next to him. Can you imagine your child is sick as a dog? Stomach virus, which is traumatizing, especially when you're young. you put him in the driveway.

Guess who's going to get a metaphobia, by the way? The guy throwing up in a bucket in the driveway. Like, I cannot, like, that I got so upset at that TikTok, and I almost commented, and I've never, like, I've never done anything like that. And I didn't comment. But, like, she really thought she was like, did something. Yeah. That would, that'd be one of those you fall asleep, like, bang her post and you wake up. And it's like, oh, no.

And all of the comments were like, did you, like, I can't believe you thought you were going to get, like, anyone that agreed with you. And the fact that she's, like, keeping it up because it's, like, so viral, like, is so embarrassing. Like, I just, like, have it out for this, for this woman. I think, and I think we all should. That's going to be a core memory. I remember the first time. The core memory of when your mom made you throw up in the driveway. Yeah.

I bet that this young man's going to be very, very, like, close to his dad and not remember it entirely why we're so, like, trauma bonded as if we've been deployed together and it's like because you were deployed to the driveway with your mattress and your bucket I remember when I I so you wanted allergies I wanted to throw up yeah I can't imagine in a million years yep and I had some stomach bug and I threw up on our tile floor and I was laughing because I was like that's insane I've always wanted to throw off and like throwing up is real it was like That was your first time? For me, yeah, you don't forget your first time.

No, you don't. Throwing up for me was like, that's something they do in the movies. They throw up. And then they slip in it. And then someone else throws it. I threw up on the ground and I was laughing so like how we laugh here. You know, like couldn't catch my breath. And then on the breath in from laughing, I threw up again.

And then I was like still kind of laughing and looking around. I was like, ha. And then I threw it again and I was like, no, no. And I was in this cycle of like, then I couldn't catch my breath. And I'm just vomiting in its puddle. And then it got really real for my whole family. And they were like, oh, we got to like, we got to stop the spillage. Because it was like vomit everywhere.

And then I went from like crying laughing to like genuinely crying to like sobbing. And then any time I would get a breath and it would just bomb it out. Ooh. Okay. Let's move on from that. Okay. But no bucket. No problem.

My mom lets me throw up inside the house. She's a great mom. Yeah. I carried around a bucket for years. I know. Your bucket. Yeah. I wish like that's something that I had saved.

What do you mean? Oh, I think it's good to move on from, from your bucket, you know, like maybe. It just could have been a nice keepsake, you know,

I could have bedazzled it. That would, yeah, I think that, I feel like it might bring back some, it might bring things back up, kind of like, vomit-wise.

Maybe. Like a conditioned response. You see the bucket, I need to barf into that. Do you mind if I change the subject real quick? No. It's just like something that I don't even know if I can talk about because of, I don't know if I have the mental health to talk about off campus right now. I have stuff too from off campus.

Do you want to go there now or do you want to go there later? I mean, I think just like let's rip the Band-Aid off and go there now. Okay. This is the last thing I needed. Yeah. Is to feel this way about a fictional character. This is the last thing that I needed because you know what? There's a fine line between pleasure and pain.

Yeah. And I'm riding that line watching this show. I've only two episodes in. Which character are you feeling this for? Talking about Garrett Graham. The main guy? Yeah. Okay.

So I'm two episodes in. Yeah. I'm seven in. I haven't watched the last one yet because I'm saving it for tonight. I'm feeling really proud of myself because I finally saw, I heard and I saw people talking about this and I was like, I want to get involved. Yeah. I want, can I say a couple things?

Like, just genuinely really quick. You may. Okay. I kind of wrote them down in bullet points. And don't be offended by these. I'm two episodes in, okay? No, I won't be offended. I also, like, I'm not like, wow, this is, like, the most amazing show.

It's just, like, I'm in love with this man and, like, I'll probably die from it. I have some ideas. Is he, have you been watching? No. You don't, like, spare yourself. I am enjoying the press junkets there on more than I did with, like, any recent show. Like, he did Riveler. I didn't really get any, like, but I like, I like.

I like Belmont's freaking amazing isn't he Which one's Belmont? Garrett Oh I like I like they're pretty entertaining to me And they're press junkets yeah I want to say something really quick Yeah say it Jump in if you need to

But I have my own thoughts here Okay And this is like not a personal It's personal to me You're fine I don't feel like I'm not like It's not like me talking about It's not like you talking about like

Hudson Valley and how he dresses and how I don't like it? No, no, this is just like, I'm not like, I didn't read the books. I'm not like, this is the most amazing story in the world. I am just in love with this man so much that I feel really, really sick. I, okay, here's how I feel that. Yeah. Which is hard because he's fictional and a college hockey player written by a woman and

it will never exist, never has. I'll never experience anything like it and I never will. And it just doesn't exist in general. Yet. Mm-mm. I don't think it ever could. That's close-minded thinking. all which is not like you you have a very open mind well all book boyfriends

99% of book boyfriends are written by women and that's really scary it's an idyllic thing it's really scary that's a good transition into what i'm about to say okay because i'm feeling like again fine line between pleasure and pain i think i'm feeling more pain from this okay i'm jumping it okay jump. It kind of almost feels wrong watching this. I feel almost a little bit uncomfortable peak because the acting and the storyline is very hallmark movie and then the soft core porn starts. Sure. And I'm pulled out and it kind of feels like I wasn't supposed to see this and it's on the wrong channel like high school musical, the musical, the porn out. Okay. I see what you're saying. And I'm thinking we're in such a space where this is hitting so often now that I'm wanting almost

Maybe not encourage people. Maybe we, maybe watch porn. And hang on, hang on, before you even say that, I think that would bring things back. And I want to say now, and maybe if you're someone that does porn, if you start making it more serialized and create some character arcs,

protagonists, antagonists, you may find some major success very quickly. And if you're a theater kid that has an open mind, you're leaving a lot of money on the table here. I'm seeing a huge opportunity across the board, across many industries, and I think if you are in one

and don't see yourself in the other, maybe take a step back and think about it. Wait, you're saying theater kids should start doing porn? Yeah. This isn't porn. Wait, I just shrugged. I know, I'm just saying, we're getting to a place

where there's so much of this and everything, and I think that's why it's doing really well because I think that the hallmark thing mixed with this is like a hybrid of something we've never seen. And I'm saying there's a, there's a huge open market for just like people that would watch some really good acting with some sex. Yeah, well, let's.

Sex selves. Let's keep it in these TV shows because I think what people are connecting to is how these sex scenes and intimacy scenes further the story and how they inform the characters that we fall in love with. I'm, what I was thinking is that both are taking a hit on each other. and it's like bringing the level of the show down. And I just want to say like for me, I'm watching it. And I'm like, I'm enjoying the show.

I'm not like really, really attached. And I do think that it's like very digestible. But I think that it cannibalizes on the storyline and the acting to have the level of like sex scenes that are. I don't know. That's what I think. Oh, I definitely. I don't agree. I've really preferred some of those scenes.

Yeah. Because, you know. I'm not disagreeing. with you. I'm just saying there's an opening on both ends of the spectrum. I just think that for like a TV show if you want to really connect with people. But I guess like for these

Hey, I'm connected. I know you're connecting. I know you're connecting. I know you're connected. I can't finish my doc because I didn't think it all the way out but like I think that someone will understand what I'm saying. We'll circle back once you finish the beginning sequence of episode five. Perfect. It won't be for a long time because I won't

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Really wasn't like this. And I keep forgetting it's college. Yeah, they're so high school to me. It's hard to be in love with a fictional college A student as a woman approaching 30. It's harder than I would like it to be. When they were drinking, I was like, whoa, this is like euphoria. Because I forgot they were in college and not high school because it gives the acting and the

storyline really gives high school. Yeah, well, it's college, which is not that much of a difference, but I don't know. It just didn't, it doesn't like feel. I'm only, I think, yeah, as I'm watching this, I'm just, like, so painfully aware that, like, it's not real and it never will be. And I'm hurt. I'm physically hurting. But I'm also, I can't get enough. That's kind of how I feel when I watch, like, Harry Potter and then I turn it off. And I'm like, oh, yeah, I want to be a wizard. I'm in my hotel or just like eating Chipotle in my bed. That is how I'm feeling about this. Yeah, my life's like a little bit different than...

That is really how I'm feeling about this. Than that, because it's fictional. Now, it's a fantasy. While I'm having a relationship, a really strong attachment to the character of Garrett Graham on screen, off screen, I'm having a really strong relationship to the young man who plays his friend, John Logan. I don't know. He's the one that Hannah kissed after Garrett, you know, and they were. like making out and she's like no I don't in the locker room like I don't blush yeah him yeah um Antonio Sipriano he is Italian yep they're both Italian um Belmontis as well and he's a theater kid

he was in this musical called in pieces there's this song called Bloom y'all have to go listen right now it's going to be the number one on my Spotify raps I'm so sick he's so talented and he dated Renee Rapp and he is yeah he is who she wrote that song in the kitchen in the living room dancing in the kitchen alone

oh wow so that's think about that for a second I am think about how powerful the emotions have to be to write a song like that I haven't necessarily

ever listen to the song in full and now I can't because I'm too it's too charged for me but just that's a lot of lore that's good to know I didn't know that yeah that'll be good to know

so keep that in mind moving forward I wish they didn't give him like a blowout on the show because he has this really gorgeous curly hair and they're kind of like blowing out his bangs in a way I'm not comfortable with on the show I can't run none of these pictures are really doing like

he has really curly hair and then the show that they like he's sweaty in these pictures so it's like the curls are there. Maybe the first one, is he? No, that's a good one. I just, in the show, they're more,

he has more of a blowout. In the show, he has more of a blowout. Okay, well, we'll just pay attention. Yeah, I just pay attention. Yeah. And I'm looking forward to his season as well. And, yeah, I just feel pretty sick about the whole thing. I can't help you.

No, no one can. I'm so far beyond help. And like, I guess this is what people were feeling like with the summer I turned pretty. I didn't watch that either I thought I was a lesbian during that I'm being so serious because everyone was like

oh my God these boys and I was just like I'm not I think I must be gay because like this is something that I should enjoy just based off of everything about me

and the fact that I'm not and like the way that my mind works is like I'm gay but I think the problem here was like these they're these two young men like and I don't like to use the word pussy because especially when like referring to like a weak man because like obviously like if you're thinking about the like vagina of what are you going like I don't want to equate like that

to weakness but like these two are pussies like genuinely through and through Garrett Graham is a is a man despite him being in college and and completely fictional so that is the disparity there. It wasn't that it was gay. It said these two are pussies. And maybe who knows. Who knows what'll happen with future shows. Maybe I'll be gay again. But right now. Super cute. Not a match. So not a match. And I feel even and more confident in Summer Turn Pretty was not my show. Now that I found my show. Okay. And I think I'm now realizing like this is another reason like why I loved heated rivalry so. much is like I don't feel this type of pain like I didn't that's that story couldn't have happened to me you know whereas like it's easy to convince myself like with off campus because it's a straight romance like

this could have been me and it's not it never will be so I think there's not this like pain when I'm watching heated rivalry that I'm experiencing this pain with a straight romance that I don't prefer I just can't believe the show is having enough I know I'm like so sick I'm like so sick because it is genuinely a home I know I'm it's I'm not saying it's I'm not saying it's even like an amazing TV show. It's this specific character and like the relationship. Just everything about him. You want to fuck the trope.

I love a trope. I just like when a romance is done well and if they create a fictional man of this caliber. We just got to the bottom of it. It's like so painful for me. I get it. I will never find anyone like this because he does not exist. Well, you're not in college. That's what I'm saying.

Working six, nine to five. That's the, that's the freaking problem. She could not work at more places. No, she couldn't. Like, no wonder she's seeing him all the time. You work everywhere on campus. I have not seen her back in the locker room even once. She's at the diner.

And she's tutoring. And, like, no wonder their schedules just aren't a match. It's like, I just, I, I, she reminds me, by the way, when she puts on her apron. there's a video, like an OG video of a girl that works in, like, a fast food restaurant. She goes, and it like pulls her boobs up. Can we pull that? Izzy, do you know what I'm talking about? While Brooke stares blankly, I mean, like, where are you going now?

I need you just, can we pull that up? Do you know what I'm talking about? Well, type in, um, apron boobs video, TikTok. This should be good. Girl tightening apron pizza hat. Thank you. That's what I'm looking for. This is her getting ready to serve him coffee even though she's late.

They're blurring out. No, no, that's not her. No one. You see her? It is that first video. It's just she's, this girl is saying, I'll never be her. It's, we can watch the first one and then wait until the edit cuts. This is because I'll never be him.

This girl. Okay. That's her getting ready to serve him breakfast. Do you know that the actress that plays Hannah is 19? Whoa. Mm-hmm. That's awesome. So she's performing in a role that she literally could be experiencing in real life.

She could be. Okay. Also, like, the girlfriends of these men are so, so strong. Compartmentalization. Yeah. As much as I've always wanted to date an actor, I could never date an action. I mean, it goes back. We have this conversation.

I do. I have to date a hockey player. I'm really serious. I think it's always been an athlete. That's great. I've always said that. Perfect. TikTok do your thing

so depressed no it's great it's not it's not great it's great to have something that you care about and you're and you can rewatch and now you're not rewatching this well you haven't last episode

you've a bugger now hanging out of your nose like I know okay I'm just trying to get us from point A to point being done with off campus conversation like if it takes a bugger being out then that's fine okay this is a good time to throw in right now that the Brooke and Connor cooking video

is out on YouTube I'd love if everyone went and watch it. We had a really, that was really fun. Something about us in a kitchen, just like, it really brings out some real, is there any book? It reminds me at Van Antonio. No. No.

Something about us in a kitchen, it is just like, we're funny in a kitchen. I was having a really hard time talking and cooking. It was fun. That's not what I said. What did you say? I said, I was having a really hard time talking and cooking. Oh, it was hard.

And then you said it was fun. that's you hear what you want to hear I had fun it was a good time no it was so much fun but it was a challenge yeah I enjoyed it

please go watch it it was really really fun thank you to Channing for she's so good she was definitely stole the show always us so does so does Tristan yeah when they step in

and they are they are I'm self-conscious now about your bug you got it I watched it come up from your nose and on your finger. Oh, good.

That's a good way to pull me from Garrett Graham. Good. Now I know. I know what to do. It's just like hard to move forward. It's done. From Bougar Gate. It's all done.

Okay. Was I going to say, I was in Milwaukee this weekend. I'm just trying to get us somewhere. Yeah. Why were you in Milwaukee? I had a show. How was it? It was great.

I got spent some time in Chicago, too. Like, I love Chicago. I love Chicago. I love Chicago. but only from like late May to October. Yeah, I forgot that it's bad, but I like, before my flight, was yesterday I flew in? No, day before. Before my flight, I jumped in the lake and I was just got out and I was like, pretty cool.

You were in Chicago? I flew out of Chicago because Milwaukee is a 40 months away. Got it. But that's why I was supposed to come in that night. What was the temperature in Chicago? It was 80 degrees. Wow. Yeah.

It was really nice, but I love Chicago. Chicago is kind of like this fake city to me. No offense to people live in Chicago. I love Chicago, but it's like. it not being New York or L.A. And that's like my two, the two cities to me is like New York, L.A. And then you go to Chicago,

it's like, what are you? No, if Chicago didn't have that weather, it would be the most popular city. Yeah. It's amazing. Like New York to me is like, boy, L.A. to me is girl. And then Chicago to me is like... Non-bineary.

Chicago that are non-binary city. Interesting. Yeah. But I love it. I just adore walking around Chicago. No, I love... And running. I might join, which is really scary to me.

When I was there, there was a lot of run clubs. And I was like, this is a city I would probably join a run club in. No. Yeah, which is disgusting to say. It is. I can't believe I just said that publicly. I could see myself in a run club in Chicago. And don't invite me to do it.

I'm not going to actually do it. But it's like a fun fantasy for me. I could be to picture myself as like a get ready with me as a whatever in Chicago. 5 a.m. I wouldn't be doing the 5 a.m. stuff, but like 8 a.m. heading out to run club. Coffee after with my run club homies. That's like not sounding good to me. But I love that. And then we talked last night we did kind of like a live show, an adulting live show. And the young man that opened for us, Chris Higgins, who's so funny, he said that he moved to Chicago because he travels so much that it makes more sense for him to be there than New York and L.A. Oh.

He's like, I never thought of just moving to the middle for ease. Maybe you should do that. No. Maybe. No. I would move to Austin before I was about to say what you could do a southern middle. Yeah.

Southern charm. Yeah. Um, and I just want to say publicly, I was doing a moving and silence thing. I think when the gratification I needed was you being like, why didn't you tell me you were doing Netflix as a joke? And like, I was like, I'm so awesome.

Like the fact that I held that in and I sit by posted yesterday. I think my moving in silence area is coming. coming to an end and everybody responded to me. You were doing intentional, like, waiting for me to ask. Like, why? No, no, no, no. I was just like, I talk about myself so much. And it's just like, and this is also bad.

And I'm just going to, we're doing, this is kind of like a more philosophical episode, I think than we've done traditionally. Yes. But I see everybody winning so much that like people have bigger wins. And I'm like, I don't even feel like I need to announce this win, even though it is a win. And then it is. And I'm like, oh, like, that was a really cool thing that I did.

And I didn't talk about it. And it's a milestone that even two years ago I would have been like one day. And I said publicly on the podcast, someone to the interviewer was like, you were talking about wanting to be on Netflix as a joke. And then you do it. But then everyone else that I surround myself with is so successful that I'm like, oh, I like that when I post this little when. But so I didn't because I was moving in silence. Fuck moving in silence. I totally agree.

I want to tell people if I'm hungry and I'm craving ham, hey, I'm craving ham. because if that relates if that one if that resonates with one person then I've done my job it is not a bad thing to be proud of yourself I know being proud but like it's there's a difference between being egotistical and being proud of yourself it's it's it's hard when you're in your head I think it almost like you having OCD might relate it's like I post this thing and it's like shut the fuck up for a minute if you don't mind oh how do you think I felt the past 10 months having to post Phoebe every day I feel like everyone hates me no that's not true but that's funny because that's what you think and then I don't don't think that. It's like, it's funny. Oh, yeah. I've, I've convinced myself that everyone thinks I'm so annoying and hates me and I'm going to do, I'm going to do a full like two months offline once once it's done. I will say I this cathartic ass episode. That's fine. We need it. Can we just, can we just can we title this cathartic is it catharticism? I don't know. We'll look up a better word to put it, but it's definitely cathartic. Yeah. We're releasing a lot of things here. Yeah. You just almost like, you were like, I thought I was a lesbian. Like this is like completely, we're

realizing things. Yeah. Oh, let's, let's title it. Realizing things. Or realize, realize, realize, realize. Okay. Whatever you want.

We can talk about it later. Okay. Or now. Whatever you want. I don't know. I just thought it'd be fun for everyone to see, like, in real time. Yeah. Yeah.

Okay. Celebrating the wins. Yeah. Well, it was less like that. It was just like, I actually, narcissists, what I'm about to say. Mm-hmm. I was like, I think people probably think it's cool that I'm not posting.

And then I started posting it. And it was like, no one actually gave a shit. So I'm going to start posting and being annoying again, I think. Yeah. Which is great. I have an interesting thing that I always wonder. People, like, think that I'm humble. Yeah.

Because I don't like to talk about, like, things that I have accomplished. But I don't think I'm humble. Like, I think I get really, I actually do get really, like, privately. proud. Yeah. But I'm just so scared to be perceived as annoying. Yeah, me too. Get in line. That it's not me being, it's not humility at all. It's, it's fear of being annoying. That's interesting. Yeah. I don't think I'm humble. Like on the inside I'm not humble. I'm like, I'm cool. Like, this is great and yay. But on the outside, I'm not saying it because I don't want to be annoying. Not because I'm humble. That was like kind of the, a similar vein of like that, oh, everyone else is doing so well. Why would I even be?

excited about this this win yeah I don't know where like to go with that realization but I think that it's good that it's good to get it out yeah we said it yeah is there anything else that we need to get off our chests I guess like now is a good time to do it I told you when I get my next therapist I have a list of things like a laundry list yeah they'll be that'll be cathartic oh god yeah yeah there's a there's a lot of things on it it's actually like all stuff I've said on the podcast too, which is... Do you want to run through some of it or it's private? Okay. It's not private. I just like, it will scare me to say out loud.

Okay. That's fine. I think it in one vein, it, there is like that thing that you said you thought you did 9-11 for a long time. You convince yourself. I kind of have that thing too where it's like I think that I'm secretly evil and I'm getting by every day and no one realizes. And I'm like, that is a genuine form of OCD of like you thinking you're a bad person. Yeah. Yeah. That's what I feel every day. It's like it's based on. it's based not in any truth. Yeah.

What is that? OCD. I don't think that I have OCD. Well, you can talk to a therapist about it? I will. But, so many people with OCD think that they're evil. Can I say, I don't think I'm evil like, I'm going to kill everybody.

But like, okay, maybe. Well, a lot of people with OCD are like having thoughts of like, oh, I'm going to kill this person, like, intrusively and, like, think that that must mean, like, I am a bad person. And, like, that's who I am at my core. I don't feel that. I don't have any, like, malice in terms of, like, killing. I used to have that when I was little and I would think about killing people and then I'd be like maybe that's the real me. Mine's based on nothing. It's just like oh like I like imposter syndrome I guess. I was going to say you know what I started taking because I went to the Eastern medicine store.

Ashwaganda. Nope. That didn't work from it. I went to the Eastern medicine store with me and me when I was home and she was picking up something and I picked up NADH plus. I've heard of And I picked up Elvianian. I've heard of both of those. Taking them both on an empty stomach. I don't know. It could be, it could completely be placebo. I have never felt,

even in the face of like, true things that should really freak me out, anxiety, scheduling, big shows, Netflix is a joke, all these things. I have never been more unbothered by anything ever in my life. Are you serious?

I'm serious. Are these both supposed to be for your mental? I don't know. What age you pick them up? L-D-Nian is supposed to help with often-combiting supplements to target stress and cellular aging. NAD plus supports cellular energy and repair, but I think that it helps your cognition, too. So I think maybe that is maybe just working in the background to work through things that are stupid and shouldn't cause me stress. Got it.

And then L-V-Ean is like for something too, I guess stress. Relaxation and focus. Yeah. Hell yeah. That's what I wanted them to do. Wow, I'd never double checked, but that's great. I just get so confused with supplements. Highly suggest these too. And that's not medical advice. It's just working for me. And now I will say that one thing that did cause me a lot of stress was Tom Brady's face recently. Oh, I didn't see it. Holy moly. I almost every day, I hold myself back from posting it on my Instagram story because I don't want it to stick with anybody else. But there's a picture of him. That. No, wait, no, it's not even that one.

is he it's this one like sorry I threw up it's this picture and he's in front of the Gucci mansion it's a paparazzi picture it's this is what I looks like they finally took my harmonica at the airport

they complicated it yeah it's that one yeah so he's just gotten a lot of work done huh that was me thinking that they were about he got that buchel fat removal yeah but he's a little bit like past getting buchal fat removal like he should have just kept

I am all for a fashionable man, but like he has lost his roots. Well, I think that this is what someone looks like when they're very desperately trying to get their ex-wife's attention. Do you think? This is like when people have their arc in the gym, when they're like, usually it's a guy and I see it all the time on videos. where it's like, we broke up and then I got. Or no, actually, I've seen like Girls do too, where it's just like, I have my arc in the gym. You get like really buff or you get like really toned

or you get really hot. He's doing an opposite, different third option called get really scary. And he's doing a lot of things that, you know, this is like an NFL superstar legend. And he's doing a lot of interesting moves. And I think that it, there's no way, Giselle is not noticing this young man.

Well, yeah, of course she's going to notice. Yeah, that, that's, wait, who's on the left? That's him. I've never seen that person. How did he get to the person on the right? Is that natural aging? I think it would be about a billion or so dollars to get you to the place on the right. But he looks younger now than he did.

I'm so confused. That's Caucasian James on the far left. I was going to say, like, how did he, why was he born as Caucasian James? And then how did he transition to Tom Brady? Oh, it's incredible. But the reason this photo came up is because this was this profile or this paparazzi photo was genuinely how I was standing wondering what they were going to pull out of my bag at TSA and I'm just standing there like sucking on my cheeks just like and it was my harmonica and I was like, oh.

Didn't they take it before or they just were inspecting it? They, it flashes really, really brightly on the x-ray. Why do you keep bringing it? Because they shove it back in my bag and this time they're like, we got to and I was like just keep it. This has caused me so much trouble. Anyways, that's all I have to say about Tom Brady, but he did sick with me. He's been, that picture of him is in my camera roll and I will be using that in some point. I get that. I will say one quick learning moment for me, which I don't know. Do you know what an

Americano is? Like the coffee? Yeah. Like I know what it is, but I don't actually like know what's in it. Isn't it just like a black coffee essentially? Thank you. No, it's not. When I was studying abroad, over the summer and I was where were you studying abroad over the summer I went to where did I oh I guess I didn't leave the country when I was studying abroad over the winter when I went to the when I was in Italy I kept being like can I just have a black coffee and they were like an Americana and I was like great so maybe that's just what they call our cop because like they don't drink black coffee they're classy so I'm like yeah I'll do an Americano you know like whatever and then my hotel that I'm at the coffee shop that's in it doesn't have black coffee either because

are like fancy and if they have coffee they have black coffee it's like a thing where it's just like okay guys yeah i'll get an americana like for you guys i'll get an americana but it's like how hard is it to just brew a pot you know but i was like okay yeah i'll do an americana i've been having them every day and even with my new the pills that i'm on n-a-d-h and i almost said phoebe berman and l the indian people keep calling her phoebe bergman and that's not sitting right and it hits the ear poorly yeah it doesn't roll um an americano is three shots of espresso and i've been having full-blown shaking fits what's going on with me i can't drink coffee anymore i've been cutting coffee completely out of my diet and then the other day they were like yeah you've been

drinking three shots of espresso on top of like a second cup of coffee wow so my body was completely shutting down yeah americano is just purely espresso and water And water. Yeah. Interesting. Yeah. My favorite type of coffee in the world is just diner coffee. Yeah.

Best. With cream and sugar. I like when the spoon hits the porcelain cup. I do too. I like the noise it makes when everyone's stirring their coffee at the same time. I like that too. We have an awesome podcast. I agree.

Flip that. Hey. Hello. Hi. Hello. Oh, I can tell you what happened in Milwaukee. That's what I was going to say. Okay.

In Milwaukee, I came out. and I opened with, I was like, oh Milwaukee, hello, everyone back, hello, it was the coolest I've ever seen. Oh, I love that. We kind of, I can't believe we didn't do that at all today. It really came and went, didn't it? It was something we're like, I think at the end of the episode, if you were watched the tapes back, we do kind of like, we're like, this is annoying. Oh, it's horrible. Yeah, no, but we kind of like, we were dying laughing at the beginning of the the end we're like no yeah no yeah hello oh hi yeah yeah just kind of like lost it spark which it's great to see something come and go i think it's great again quit while you're ahead

it was fun and now it's not we nailed it yeah um we totally killed that one okay thank you guys uh wrapping up on that and uh i'll miss you guys oh yeah this is definitely a moment in time that's happening and you know thanks for coming along for the ride. Thank you and thank you so much to everybody who has made this dream possible for a little girl like me and I'm very grateful and excited and nauseous. Yay, Brooke. We're all so proud of you. Thank you. Me too, but I'm too humble to say. Kidding. I'm joking. You would never. We'll see you on the other side, which is going to be very, very, very weird. On the other side of your New York Times best selling book. Don't say.

I mean, it's like a layup for you. No. Congrats. Thank you. Kiss your brain. Thank you guys. We'll see you soon. We have some exciting guests coming up. And then we'll have a New York Times bestselling author on the podcast after that.

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