Brooke and Connor Make A Podcast - Skunk Cost Fallacy

Episode Date: April 24, 2025

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Oh, my God, it burns. That's a tough watch. Oh. Oh, I just got a full chill. Oh, sorry you had to see that. Hey. How are you? Who, Lady, Lady Ephron Del Rey.

Lady Ephron Del Rey. Oh, because of my gator hat. Yeah, you look like you've been down down in the boot. I have been down in the, in the what? In the boot. In the boot? In the boot. In the boot. I have been in the boot.

You've been in the boot. Yeah, I've been in the boot. I was my first time in the boot. I freaking loved the boot. Yeah. It is so crazy. Broke-co Louisiana. Never would I have thought we were having this conversation.

honestly, but like, yeah, it's a great place. Yeah, it's a really great place. That being said, I didn't like do a lot and I feel like I do need to go back and really kind of get that New Orleans experience. But the limited experience that I did have there was so lovely. We went on an air bus tour of the swamps, which I really loved. Gators are, you wouldn't believe this, so friendly and loving, I really feel like, and I feel like this because my guide told me,

if you were to just swim at them, they wouldn't even hurt you. They have no interest in hurting you. Yeah. My guide was kissing them on the lips. I saw that on your story, right? Yes, kissing them on the lips. Does everyone just look like

Landed Del Rey's new husband, or was that... I was really confused because I posted the photo of my tour guide kissing the gator because it was a shock to my system. and everyone was like, that's Lana's husband, that's Lana's husband. But he didn't look anything like Lana's husband

besides the fact that he was also a tour guide. He looked like Beef Jericho. People are profiling. Well, like there's a very certain look to alligator tour guides, I think. Let me. I'm going to look up her. Lana. They looked similar for sure, but it would be like a lineup situation.

They looked nothing like. And like, trust me, I know my tour guide, like the back of my own hand. he was wearing the exact same thing that Lana's husband seems to wear every day but their faces and bodies don't look alike. Yeah.

Yeah, but I haven't taken this hat off since the swamp tour two weeks ago. It's a good hat. I like a hat. It's great. I wore it to Coachella and everything. I've lived so many lives since I last saw you.

Genuinely. Genuinely. Well, because we didn't record last week because we had the Ephron episode, which... Which, by the way, like, what's the point of being... here without Dylan. I'm sorry. I mean, it is just going to be like a, it's just going to be like,

you know, it just is what it is. Like, this is the following episode. Like, it's really hard to top that. And like, everyone just kind of take this episode as like a Sunday digestion, you know, Sunday rot kind of episode that's like, everyone calm down, sit with us, enjoy the space, recognize the space that you're in and kind of relax. Because this episode is going to be, you know, Dylan is not here with us. Dylan's actually somewhere else completely. Which is like so hard not knowing like when the next time you'll see him is, you know? Right.

Well, what's so weird is I went to a wedding and everyone at the wedding is like, yeah, oh yeah, I golf with him. Golf with him? Golf with deal, yeah. They were like, they texted him, sent a picture of us together and he goes, ask him how his jaw is, which I thought was funny. Wow. I'm curious, though. He said he would send me a picture of the salt shakers. I haven't seen that photo yet.

Well, he doesn't have your number, does he? No, but it's easy to get by just asking. Yeah. Well, I'm sure he doesn't want to be like, hey, man, what's your number, you know? He doesn't want to be too eager. Yeah, he doesn't want to be over eager. Yeah, I get it. That's fine.

But show me those salt shakers deal. But your money wants to be. You and those shakers. You and those shakers. Your hat is blending into the wall. Do you see that? I know. I just noticed that.

Now it's not. Should I change hats really quick? I'm sorry. Yeah. Okay. If you want to, I don't think it's a bad thing, but. Well, I just know it. It's just reflecting a lot of light and it's probably distracted.

What did you do with your salt shakers? I couldn't help. My salt shakers are on my table. Oh, cute. On my main dining room table. Oh, did you fill them up? I don't have salt yet. You know why?

Well, I guess that doesn't make sense. I was going to say because I haven't cooked anything since I moved in July, but that doesn't, like, I can still salt things that I haven't cooked. It's like so important to have salt. Yeah, it is, isn't it? Kind of underappreciated. Yeah, my mom makes me take a handful of it when I wake up in the morning when I'm at her house. Yeah.

puts it in my hand. I'm like, I'm completely parched. Yeah, no. Right now. I don't think like a handful of salt is going to wake me up or anything. That's been going to help if you mix it in water. Yeah, she has me just kind of She just kind of dumps it into my mouth

And holds my nose Yeah Which I love No, I'm thinking that's incredible Yeah So let's circle back Okay To the last time we spoke

Was it two weeks ago? Legit? At our live show Oh yeah Which thank you guys so much for coming That was blast You killed No

You ate it You ate it up and left no crumbs. I was so dumb up there. And everyone was saying, come, please help. We need a crumb. Please, just another piece. And you said, sorry, I ate it all.

I ate all. It literally took me 45 minutes to like get used to sitting up there and then there was 10 minutes left of the show. I thought it was great. Thanks for having me. Never had a great time. Thank you for having me. Yeah.

Had a blast. It was blast. And then I don't even know. I guess I went straight to the wedding from there. and then I came back to New York, which is where I immediately got under the weather, which is whatever, if you're hearing this right now, that's what's happening.

Are you okay? On the tail end of it. I'm worried about you. Not to be like a guy that's sick, because my understanding is that like every time a guy gets sick, it's like, oh, I'm dying, I'm dying. And like, of course my mom was in town too. So it's like now it looks like my mom flew to tear him

because I got sick. But when I tell you guys, I had a 102 degree fever for six days. It was just nonstop. Good Lord. But finally, I'm on the tail end of it. Poor baby. I'm so sorry, Connor.

I would also not handle that well either. It was just like... But honestly, you didn't talk about it too much. Like, I would be letting you know about my temperature updates every eight seconds. Well, I couldn't, like, pick up my phone. Yeah. That is when you know.

Yeah. When it's like you can't even answer text. And sometimes when you're like so sick, it's like I don't even know how I'm going to like call out of work. Right. Yeah. Right. That's whole. But my goal, I'm just like by the grace of God, I didn't have anything over the weekend and I didn't have anything a ton this weekend.

This week is my first like couple stops back on tour in Omaha in Kansas City. I really don't want to miss those. I love Omaha. Do you really? Oh yeah. You've been in Nebraska. Yeah. Why did you go?

Was that when you were driving through from Philly to? That's when I was driving through. and I was like pleasantly surprised by how beautiful Nebraska was when I was driving through. Was that where you saw that giant spool? A giant school. Spool of wool, or string? I don't think I did see a giant spool of string. Oh, I thought that they had the...

Must have been your other friend that likes string. Oh my God. I did see Carhenge, which is like Stonehenge, but car. I knew there was something there, yeah. But I forget where that was. It could have been Nebraska. but it could have been any other state in that vicinity. I wonder what, like, people from Europe think that when we're like, yeah, I did a cross-country trip.

It was amazing. I saw the giant spool of string. And then I saw Car Hinge, which is a bunch of abandoned cars just, like, kind of stuck in the dirt. Surely they have that, too. It's in Nebraska. I think that they have, like, Mount Kilimanjaro and they have, like, the countryside. Sorry, pregnancy brain over here. We're good.

Everyone's going to, I'm not worried about it that much. Now, here's something I am worried about. And before I even damn say it again wrong, I'm going to just fact check. Because last week, we are like weeks ago, Brooke, this is the third time we'll have brought this up on the podcast. We talked about Louis Armstrong. Louis is, don't tell me, because I freaking know it. What a wonderful world Neal is

Like Neil is the moon And Lance is live strong We First of all someone commented and said Well hang on Louis Armstrong commented on our TikTok There's no way

He said Louis's not alive He's not right Okay well the official Louis Armstrong Is he alive? No. Okay. He's a state commented.

The estate of Louis Armstrong commented the trumpet commented the trumpet comma, not the saxophone, dot, dot, dot, dot. That is a very important distinction. So sorry. I feel bad. Finger up. Oh, I was like Louis Armstrong has entered the chat. That's embarrassing for us, like truly. That's like, that's like, that's like mic drop like in the podcast.

Louis Armstrong is like is here now everyone else can go home Let me look up I have to look up his his TikTok to see like who like who was at the commentant Someone else commented was like Louis Armstrong played the fucking trumpet I am so sorry everyone is really mad I'm sorry When did he armstrong So he actually died in 1971 Believe it or not

We're not too far off Wow He was born in New Orleans. I know it well. In 1901. Wow, that's close to the 1800s. So he would have been like a Gen Z baby that's like you were born in the 18, you were born in the 90s? Yeah.

Yeah. He was talking about the 1890s. You're like, ew, you're old. Yeah. Yeah. Because I just saw these TikToks of this guy at the mall and he was like, what would you consider old? And people are like, if you're born, if you're born in 2000, like you're old. and like you're old.

This is like, I've been thinking about this a lot and just like what constitutes old, you know? And obviously it changes like when, as we age, like I used to think 20 was like, oh,

you're a full grown up. But what really scares me is I was listening to Amy Winehouse the other day and I remembered like having the thought like when she died and kind of like learning about the 27 club. Yeah. Thinking about like, Okay, like 27, like is young. It's like, a good time to go.

I remember thinking like it's young, but it's like you lived a full life. Like, I remember having that thought when I was younger, which is so insane. No, now it's like dying at 27, like, oh my God, you didn't get to do anything. You had your whole life ahead of you. Yeah. Yeah. Like, wow. I remember being in college and being in class in my TA would be like, hey, do you need you help?

I'm like, get away from me, grandpa. And I think that they were like 23. Yeah. And I remember being like, if I ever turn 23, I am going to kill myself. Yeah. I was like, I don't know. Like, I won't turn that old. It'll be 20 forever.

Oh, it's so crazy. Yeah. What I'm really not enjoying is all the characters in my romance books. By the way, I've read like six books with cartoon characters kissing on the front since we last spoke. But all of them are younger than me. Give or take. Well. That's piss.

That's pissing me off. That's getting my pant. he's in a bunch. Right. Some are 30. Some are 30. In a few years, those will be, they'll be younger than me too. And then it's like when I'm 50, like, is it weird of me to be reading my cartoon books with 30-year-olds? Who's to say? No, I mean, like, that's a great age to like yearn for.

And then when I'm reading books about like teen romance, then I just get sad because it's like, that's way too far gone for me. You know? I guess but I kind of don't get it. It's International Book Day, by the way. Like, I just wanted to say happy. Happy, happy, happy B, D.

Happy B. Happy B.D. You and yours. Well, I mean, you could write, you could write a romance novel about like a 107 year old and you'd be like, wow, like, that's special. No, literally like, every book I write, the characters will be like a year older than me. You could write about like a 79 year old, like meeting the, love of her life and he's 23. Connor, I just read about the last book I finished was about a woman

75. It's her last day on earth. The book is not out yet. It's called Pomeridian. Comes out next month. It was so good. But this woman's, it was her last day on earth. She's dying the next day. And she throws a party. And like all she can think about is like the lost love of her life. And it was really beautiful and sad. That's like when you need to take a beta blocker. But like it was a romance of of people of an older age. I'd just be like so bummed if like, I'd be like, this is my day, you know, like I need to enjoy my party. Well, she was waiting for her to show up. It was a place in a queer retirement community.

Okay. In the future. In the future. Yeah. It was great book. Queer retirement home in the future. Queer retirement community in the 2006s. Wow.

That is so specific. Yeah. Um, well. Yeah, that's a bummer That would be a bummer What? How's your book? I put it down

But I will say I mean it's just for now Just for now I really thought like what I really thought like Okay my screen isn't working Maybe I can read this book I coughed

Up Something into the page And I was like All right this is not gonna Oh wait But I put it down just for now When I have like a level hat

I'm going to start reading it again. That book, The Long Island Compromise, has come across my desk about 75 times since I brought it up. People are reading it. It has now been suggested in like, oh, you liked White Lotus. You'll enjoy this book, Long Island Compromise. I'm like, what the hell? Another Hunger Game situation where I judged a book by its cover and who? Guess who was on this?

Oh, you discovered Long Island Compromise. Well, I definitely didn't. Like, I know that I did because it was already like in the zeitgeist. But people are picking it up now. I haven't had anyone reach out and be like, I read the book and it's good. I've seen some people that I follow in Goodreads read it. And I don't think any of them have rated it over three stars. Fascinating.

Which is not good from high standards. Yeah. Yikes. Yeah. Well, I mean, I don't have standards. So that would be, that probably be good. Girl, winter is so last season. And now Springs got you looking at pictures of.

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We'll get there. We will get there. I know we will get there. I know. Well, you know, I like Life of Pie I really enjoyed. You read it? Yeah.

For us how the movie. I thought the movie is really good. Yeah. Fabulous movie. I enjoyed the book too. We read it for school. Oh, that's cool that you read it for school. I love, like.

Ow. Are you okay? Yeah. I love kind of like high-brow books that have a plot twist that doesn't feel like plot twisty for the sake of being plot twisty, it's like, oh, holy shit, that's like an academic plot twist. Does that make sense?

I don't know what this terminology that you're using means. Highbrow books. Like, it's like very like intellectually stimulating book. It's not just like a thriller with a plot twist because that's what thrillers have, you know? It's like there's a plot twist. Can you give me an example that I would know? Of what? A highbrow book with a plot twist.

Life is pie. Do you remember? You think it's highbrow? it's about animals. I do think it's like an academic type of novel. Wow. I'm so smart.

Okay. Yeah. A bird just ran into my window. Okay. I hope it's okay. Well, I mean, I read it for school and like we dissected it for like three months. So it's like what choice do I have

other than to say it's an academic piece. But I think there's a lot of analysis to do. Yeah, that was one that was a thinker. Yeah. What? did you take away from it? I kind of got lost because it's such like a, it's almost like, like he had lost his mind, you know?

Right. Yeah. So I guess is that, is that the high brow piece? I mean, it's just like the whole book is like, I don't know, more intellectually stimulating than you're, than like a random book that you would pick up on the bestseller table, you know? Yeah. I remember learning a lot about like, remember id versus. ego.

Of course. That's, I remember, I think that was like the focus of the life of pie discussions. It versus Ego. Oh, right, because, yeah, because. And, like, spoiler alert, like, like, he was the, it and the ego was the tiger. The tiger and the zebra was. Yeah, there's he also the zebra? I actually don't remember too well, but.

I say if anyone hasn't read Life of Pie, like, I then. I want to reread it. Yeah, go ahead and reread it. No, like you can't spoil life of... It feels like you can't spoil life of pie. There's so many twists and terns. It's impossible. How many twists and terms?

It's impossible to spoil it for someone. But we did. Spoil pretty big. No. Okay. I don't think so. Wait, do you want to hear something that happened to me this morning? Mm-hmm.

So I'm like walking to get a juice, I'm walking home, and I find a chair. And I was like, oh my God. This is so, this would go so perfect in my, I got a dining room table and I got like six chairs for my thing and I wanted like a little chair for the window. I was like amazing. And it's like not too heavy where like a block from my house, we is in me by myself and me in the chair. You're in the chair. And me and my id and my ego or a block from my house. And we, we, what is wrong with me?

I'm like, I pick up the chair and I start walking. and someone goes, hey, hello, hey. They were just unloading it from their car and they were going to put it in their house. That's our chair. That is horrible. Yeah, that is horrible. And also, like, it was over my face.

And there's people everywhere. And this is, like, you know, 10 a.m. There's cities of us. Go ahead and give us back our chair, please. And I was like, I am so sorry. Like, this is, that's my first time ever, like, picking something up off the sidewalk. Was it alone?

I was like, yeah. Wow. There's nothing near it at all. I was like, oh, that's brilliant. Like, this is so cool. And it looks brand new. It was. It reminds me of when I first moved into my apartment in L.A.

Like, zero money. And my roommates, like, did not care to have rugs or anything. My roommate that lived there before us was like, hey, like, my other roommate said that, like, he was going to stay in the apartment and the other roommates were moving out. And he's like, they said we'd keep the couch and the coffee table. We just have to buy it off of them. And I was like, okay. how much. It was like,

it was like a crappy, crappy sectional couch, like old, crappy. And they were like, like three grand. And I was like, okay,

I don't, like, I don't have a choice. So like, we split it three ways, you know. But they like didn't want to furnish it at all. And I found a rug outside

that had been used and abused and I brought it in and I, Venmo charged him for half fit. And he said, how much? I said it was $150. And he said,

ship me $75. Nice. Get your bag. Okay. I go. But it was like an old dirty rug and I think that's why I got sick like 12 times that year. Ooh.

Dead bugs. But I don't think that, I think those just, I don't think they make you sick. They just make you itch, no? I don't know. I feel like they can give you diseases. Ew. Ew. Ped bugs are like a huge issue in New York for some reason.

And I like, here's why bedbugs are problematic, a thread. but those haven't come across my desk yet. So also I sent you a Snapchat yesterday. Sorry, I'm just like unloading off onto you right now. They've started construction on the staircase of my building, which is we are now, if anyone's keeping tabs, three, four three places I've lived with construction happening on my direct adjacent. How long is it going to take?

They were unclear, but they did take two hours off so I could film a podcast. That's nice. Yeah, it was really great. It was really sweet of them. They did start at 7 a.m. though. They started at 7 a.m. every day. You should ask, a staircase doesn't feel like it would take, like, so long. They're really killing it, but it is.

They're slaying? They're kind of slaying the house down so much so that there's shit falling from my ceiling because they're hammering so hard on my wall. Like my old apartment in Santa Monica. Monica where they were hitting so hard that it cracked through my living room. The hammer came through while I was on that Zoom. I was like, oh my God. Right. Did you see people that were able to identify what your like ball of pubs in the wall were?

Yes. Steel wool. It's steel wool. And it's actually the opposite of what we thought it was. It's not a dead rat. It's to keep them out. Which I feel like there's a better solution than just shoving steel wool in the wall. Who knows?

Like I don't know. But something tells me that maybe, like, reconstructing the wall and making it, like, airtight would do that, too. It's hard for me to say. But yeah. Okay. Well, yeah, that's where I'm at right now. And they're actually, it's been nice also. Not that I have a ton of stuff in here, but I haven't had my windows open all the time.

I haven't had one bug. Besides the bird that's probably dead on my balcony. I haven't had any critters at all. Are you really high up? No. Oh. I don't think it's critter season. Summer would probably be critter season.

Ever since you talked about chiggers? Yeah. They've been coming up everywhere. You know, I'm surprised you didn't get any chiggers in Louisiana. I probably did. You would know. They'd be stuck to me. Well, you'd just be itchy and you're like, what is that?

And I'd be like, that's a chigger. You've got to put some nail polish on it. That's like, be a chigger. beyond to me. Because it suffocates him. Yeah. How was Coachella? I was just about to say, do you want to hear about Coachella?

Being itchy. I'm so drained just like from someone that like struggles like with traveling to do the Bachelorette come back. Coachella. My God. If you don't mind me saying. But it was fun. Like that's like one of life's biggest anomalies is that like I, I care for Coachella weekend

too. care for it. Really a million guesses. Like it is bizarre. I will say I struggled a lot more like energy wise than I did last time. Like it is insane to me that I made it all three days last time all day through the headliners. This time I only made it two days. I couldn't make it in the third day and I had to leave halfway through both the headliners because I didn't realize that they were like two hours long and I had already been there all day and I couldn't support myself on my feet anymore. And also when I started to sit down, my eye started to close. And then it was a 40-minute walk home. So it's like, I better, I should just go now, you know. There's something almost better

than seeing the headliners. And it's knowing that you're leaving before everybody else is. Truly. And also, Lady Gaga started at 11 P. And I had been there since three. And it was just, it was time. And the great thing about that is I could hear her on my walk home. And I couldn't see anyway. I'm two inches tall. You know? So it's like, what's the difference between me standing there and me listening walking home? There isn't.

So Friday, the first set that I saw was Joe, spelled DJO, Joe Curie. I'm familiar with his work. I have been familiar with his work too, specifically, you know, the hits, end of beginnings. Love that one. Some of the other popular ones. But. Yeah. I really, really care for the guy, like in a big way.

And so I've recently started kind of diving into that discography, which has been really fun. And yeah, it's nice to have a new crush, you know? I figured that's where this is going. Yeah, it brings a little bit of joy to my life. Fun, yeah. Yeah. I think that you're in good company. I feel like you're going to find a really tight-knit community in your crush with Joe.

Joe is to love Joe. Yeah. Right. It's hard, like, having a celebrity crush that, like, everyone also loves because it's, like, damn, like, as if I had a chance to begin with now, I really don't have a chance. But then it's also hard having one that not a lot of people love because it's like, I need more. You know? So it's a lose, lose. Yeah, sometimes you have to have, like, a dream about them.

Yeah. And that's awesome. I wish I could, like, black mirror force myself to. but you could do the thing that we always talk about lucid dreaming i just look at i every day i count my fingers and say lucid dream lucid dream lucid dream we're supposed to look at a picture of joe what's that same gerry giri i mean i do that like accidentally not accidentally but just like in passing like all the time before you go to bed you should look at the picture of him and say his name joe giri joe giri joe gerry joe Joe Geary,

Joe Geary seven times. Yeah. And then go to sleep. And then he will appear. Okay, I'm going to try that. What I do is count my fingers because apparently you're supposed to get in the habit of counting your fingers because when you're dreaming,

you don't have 10 fingers. And so then when you count your fingers in your dream because it's become a habit, you realize that you're dreaming when you don't have 10 fingers. And then you can act accordingly. And then also just like when you talk about lucid dreaming, you just become more aware of it. So those are the two strategies I know. Dreaming and AI can't do fingers.

That's really weird, the parallel there. AI can't do fingers? No, like if you wonder if something's AI and you look at the hands, like the hands are always fucked up. Interesting. Yeah. Like everything will be real and then they'll look like,

like you look at their hands and there's like one, one, all, they're all attached. Okay, I'll have to keep my eye out. It's just like one hand piece. But, um, or there's like, 15 fingers. Okay, I'll be, I'll be looking at that in the future.

Sorry, like, dream talk, but I had a dream the other night that, like, I was, I don't know if I was my age or what, but I was back in college, and I was taking, like, a writing class. Ooh. And I was, like, I had some sort of following, like, Instagram, like, I was, like, an influencer and I was, like, I don't need this. Like, I don't need to pass this class. Like, I don't need to do this.

And everyone was like, of course he's not taking this seriously, like, doesn't have his notebook out at all. And I was like, I'm going to have fun with this class. And it was like a main character thing where like the English teacher was like, I see something in you. It was like, you know what I mean? I wonder if that's like a plot where like, because there's people in school right now that are influencers and they're just taking classes and they're like, I'm, there's no way I could make the amount of money in my profession in my degree that I could make. being an influencer. At that point, when you just drop out, I guess like skunk cost fallacy, like you've already invested some time.

And like, I guess a degree, yeah, never mind. I changed my mind. You should get your degree. Some cost privacy, when you're talking about a degree, I think is mute because... Mute? Mute. What is it? No, it is moot, yeah.

Mood. Why do you think that? Because it's like, if you're two years into your... degree. Like, it's not like quitting right there. If you're able to manage, but like, I would, I would finish my, get my degree. No, that's why I'm, that is the skunk cost fallacy. The skunk cost fallacy?

Yeah. The skunk cost fallacy is like when you put in time to something. It's like you can't just give up. So it's like if I put two years into my degree, I don't want to leave because of the skunk cost fallacy. Like, I've already invested so much time. I'm thinking of the skunk cost fallacy? We've talked about this so much.

But skunk? Are you saying skunk? Yeah, I am saying skunk. Brooke, it's sunk. There's no way. It's sunk and cost fallacy. Like, what? I've been saying skunk this whole.

No. Skunk? Rug, it's on the screen. Meanwhile, me being so, such an intellectual. all episode, high brow, life of pie, it ego, skunk-cost fallacy, okay? Skunk-Coss. That just goes to show you, like,

we all have our quirks, and, you know, intelligence can be defined in a lot of different ways and everything like that, and I would like to move on. I love skunk-cost fallacy. It's like if the skunk has already sprayed its little,

or factory, bland. I did want it, like, what is the root? of the skunk. It took me like six times. I'm like, is she saying skunk? Sunk cost. Like, yeah, that makes so much sense to me. Like, you've already sunk so much time.

You've sunk so much time. Yeah, I did wonder about the skunk. Not enough to be like, maybe it's not skunk, but I did wonder about it. I want to flag that. The stinky fallacy. This is one of the stinkiest fallacies out there. Wow, that was like so bad. And I was like in the middle of condescending you too, so like couldn't have been worse.

Well, it took me like six, I'm telling you, it took me so long to be like, is she saying scorn? Like, what is she talking about? Um, I do want to say really quickly, someone at Coachella DM me and was like, oh my God. My girlfriend just noticed that like we have the same posture. Okay. Hunchback of Notre Dame, like full blown, look through it, like full blown. I'm working on my posture. Like you were stopping him and then you realized.

Well, I was like, what a specific thing to say. Like, this guy needs a back brace. Yeah. I would love to, I was thinking about my posture a lot this weekend as I was sitting on the ground. I'm just like my nose is touching my knees when I sit. Sitting is one thing. When I stand and I see a picture of myself and like my shoulders are forward, it's like, gosh, darn it. Like, what are you doing?

screenager, roll your shoulders back. Totally. You don't flare your chest. Yeah, I would love to take a class on sitting and standing and shit like that. If anyone out there in the L.A. Cosmopolitan area has a class on sitting, standing, and shit like that, you know where to find us.

Let us know. But let me finish telling you about Coachella. Oh, yeah, hit me. Wait, have you listened to Lady Gaga's new album at all? I've heard the one big song. With Bruno Mars. or abracadabra. That one, I've heard both.

Now, the one with Bruno Mars, I, that is one of those songs that I always talk about that, like, was created by the government. I, like, who is, like, I don't know who's listening to that song. With Farrell, happy. Yes. Yeah. Like, yummy, yummy by Justin Bieber.

Like, what? I know. Why do I know every word, you know? Like, why am I waking up in the morning? And the first thing I, I'm gonna be, Like, yeah, I don't love that one. But there's two that I'm obsessed with.

Okay? And I think you'll really enjoy them too, especially Killa. I think it's Killa, not Killa. Oh, Killa, right, right, right. That one's really fun. And I really like it. Yeah, it's Killa. And then Garden of Eden.

They're so fun. I'll look into it. Yeah, definitely look into it. Flagging those. And then the next day I was. one of the first ones at the festival Connor believe it or not left at one

for Ed Sheeran who was not there weekend one he was there weekend two he filled in for FK Twigs wow and he was at one of the smaller stages I couldn't like there were I was backed up to the gods like backed up to another stage

basically why would they put in there he there was like a lot of backlash like put Ed at a bigger stage blah blah blah and like all these tic talks of like filming where he was and how the people were overflowing and by the way if you look at any of those tic talks you can see me sitting on a in my hat that I can't take off look for my camo hat I'm sitting on a gate which is probably illegal but no none of the security could access me through the mob um but you can see me sitting there which is cool I feel like a like middle school or being like there I am there I am but really

there I was if you look at those videos and At the end of the day. At the end of the day. And he said that he really enjoys performing at small stages. But it's just not conduce. But it was not conduce. And like it was where I was like suddenly became like a walkway of sorts. So there were people like hurling their bodies like through right in front of me.

And so it was pretty unpleasant, but it was good to see him. You know? Yeah. Because I am in head. Box checker. Through and through. a shirio. And he sung like almost all of his early stuff,

which was just completely fabulous. That's so cool. Yeah. It's so random that he, he swapped after FCA twigs. Yeah. Huh. Random.

Yeah. Well, she like, there was something that happened with her. But I don't really remember. What does like someone like Ed Shearing get paid to just like pop in? Do you get, I don't think you get paid a lot to perform at Coachella. What's the you must

Can we look up How much does it cost a headline? What do you get paid? Yeah Just 10 million per weekend So Yeah I bad

8 to 12 million I don't know Okay what about a non-headliner Headliner pay I don't know if this is like 70K per weekend That's so good Wow

But they spin Oh okay Yeah They spend money to, like, produce the set. Got it. That's what I learned about, like, comedy specials is that they, like, they give you this cash and then you, like, think you get this bonus. But then you have to pay to produce everything. So, like, you end up breaking even or, like, potentially losing money.

Yeah, that makes sense. A lot of these times. Damn. Mama me, man. It's all it's cracked up to be out there. Cardi B lost. And she really, you know she needs that cash. But sometimes when you invest in yourself, it pays.

off. That is so true. Similar to this gun cost fallacy, but a little bit different. And then Green Day was that night. Did you skip Green Day? No. I mean, I left halfway through, but again, or over halfway through, but I was there for all the hits and then I could hear 21 guns. That's cool. As I was walking out.

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Really? Never. I really gave it my awe, especially for a Green Day, but I was, I checked the set list when I started, my eyes started clamping shut. And we had an hour 20 left. And I was like, there's just, there isn't a way. No. But I, I really love Green Day, as you know. And I am, I feel comfortable saying that I do feel like I enjoyed the real band more than the original Broadway.

That's good to hear. Yeah. I really do feel. Normalize changing your mind after. learning new information. Yeah. They rock out. Yeah, they do.

What was the thing with like, aren't they like in trouble right now? Didn't, didn't people get mad at them? Not that I saw that like, so Charlie actually asked the first weekend. No, Charlie wore that sash that said Little Miss should have been headliner.

Yeah. And so they, people were like, how dare you? Like you think you're as good as Green Day. Yeah. That was more so her getting in trouble. But then they were like

I know. But then they wore a brat hat or Billy Joe wore a brat hat. Yeah. I knew all this but like she's obviously joking. I read I didn't read it as like I should,

Little Miss should have been headliner instead of Green Day. I didn't read it as that. I read it as just like in general which like I kind of agree after the year she's had. They got in trouble because or like they were

people were mad at them because they wore the actual headliner sash and then he wore the hat as like an olive brain. ranch. They're fine. Everyone's coach?

Like I literally am just like it's so not that serious. I always think it's funny how there's two weekends of Coachella and then Sage Coach is just like just slides in after all the grass aesthetic in the fields. Yeah. Do they still have a Rose Garden for Sage Coach? Yeah. That's my home. Yeah.

Stage Coach is so much fun. I bet. You can sit all day. I love sitting. That's the thing about, I think, why I can do Coachella. It's like sitting is not only normalized but encouraged. Sit outside with your friends. And, you know, I can only speak for weekend too,

which I genuinely think is like half the capacity of weekend one. It's like not very crowded, big sprawling open fields. I get sushi every time. Caleb Hearon posted something. I love him. Yesterday, I want to see if it's still up. The thing about the Pope? No.

Oh, that cracked me up. What do you say about the Pope? Just like something about the experience that they had together. Fuck, I forget, but it was so funny. And it was on his story, so now it's gone. He said, it is genuinely shocking to me that people are financing their trips to Coachella with Clarnet and shit like that. Because every post I've ever seen from that event has inspired me in a feeling so opposite of FOMO that they need a new terminology. They need new terminology to explain it.

Coachella posting gives me something more than a contentment with or joy of missing out. I get it. I totally get it. It conjures a spiritual sort of imperative to miss out, a direct and righteous order from God to skip. I get it. I feel that way whenever my friends post that they're out at a bar that's more like bordering on club. You know, I'm just like, thank God. But I don't, I literally don't know what to say.

I don't know how to explain it. No, yeah, like, that's why it's so shocking that you enjoy it. I literally don't have one single, one single, it actually like gives me anxiety to see people there. I don't know. I don't, I literally don't know what to say. It makes no sense. Would I be by never going back? A hundred percent.

A hundred and ten percent. Did I enjoy my time? Yeah. That's awesome. Do you hear something insane? Yeah. It's my favorite. Huh?

Sorry So my parents were here Sorry I'm fighting through this little Tickly cough My parents were here this week Which is funny Because they are so outspoken

About how much they They basically were like We're going to come And then the day that they were supposed to come in Last week They were like actually we went to Boston instead Okay And we're just going to take the train

They have got the travel bug I know So they go to Boston and then like four days later they come and guess what? Instead of getting a flight, they go we're just going to Uber from Boston

to New York City. They Ubered from Boston. That's four hours. They Ubered. My dad sat in the front seat and talked to the driver the whole way. He was like, he was awesome. I'm like, he's going to kill himself.

That is over four hours. Yeah. So they did that. Was that not like $400? It was like $300. 300, but it was my mom, my dad, and my sister. And it's like 150 to go from any airport to Manhattan. And I was like, first of all, that's insane. Second of all, we come and... I didn't know Uber drivers went that far. There was that one girl who like accidentally put home in on her.

She was on the East Coast. I can't remember where she lived, but I think she was in, she was in New York or something Manhattan and she put in home and it sent her to her family's house in like Connecticut and it was like a $2,000 ride Wait, where was she living?

I don't know. It was on the East Coast and it was like six states away and the dude just drove her all the way there She slept the whole way. But she slept the whole way. I think she passed out. This is a TikTok. Damn. That's crazy.

At that point, just like get a driving service. Yeah. Well, my parents were like on the way to the airport with this guy. And they were like, wait, would you be willing to drive us just to New York? And he's like, yeah. Oh, wow. Anyways, so they were here. My door locks, like as soon as you walk out.

My dad arrives here. Six minutes. He walk out to get my mail. He follows me. There's nothing to do in my apartment. So he just follows me. I go, do, do, do, do, do it shuts the door. So we are locked out.

I have no spare key yet and we walk outside and there's no way back in I'm about to call like a locksmith and I guess they take like six hours and it's like $600 and I'm texting everybody that lives in the city and I'm like hey how do you guys

do locksmiths they go can you is there scaffolding anywhere near your apartment I was like kind of yeah and they're like climate like do that and I was like is that not illegal no you can do that and so I lifted my sister up Did you know your window was open? Yeah.

And during this time, like my whole family's outside, and there's this couple that is like the hottest couple in the world, almost like, I want to like, it was almost like. Like on a scale one to Dylan? Like so put together. It was like a white lotus casting. Gorgeous, rich. You could just tell. They were giving rich.

They walked by first. And I'm like, oh, that's like a, that is a couple. Like, wow. Like, it looked like Kennedys, truly. And then they walk back by. Like, what are they doing? And at this point, I've lifted my sister into the rafters. And they go, do you live here?

And they go, yep. And they go, oh, we came to, came to her unit. And I was like, oh, great. We gave me name. And at this point, I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Push that window open, sis. Yeah, yeah, push. And crawled her.

And she's crawling to the window. They just go, all right, that was a pleasure. They just walk away. The leasing agent shows up like 10 minutes later, and they had abandoned ship. They were no longer going to live in this unit. That's tough. Yeah. But honestly, you showed them something that they needed.

You showed them something that they needed to make their decision. I would have killed to witness something like that. I mean, they don't want to live in a building where the guy asked me, go, do you know all of these people or just? I was like, yeah, this is my family. Yeah. They weren't meant for that building and that's okay. Yeah.

I would have loved to get to, gotten to know them. Yeah. If it's mentioned you'll see them again. Yeah, that's true. But when my parents are here, I took them to dinner one night and they got drinks and I went to go close out the tab. And I said, Conner's, you in, and I signed my tab and I walk away and I walk out of the restaurant. Guess who's credit card I got back? Who?

Harry Connick Jr. No you did not Yes I did C-O-N-N Did you locate him? No, I didn't

He wasn't in the restaurant He just had His card was just there All offline with you I don't know what Like I want to like Blow up his spot But

I was like Can I keep this there? Like obviously you can't That But I'm I was like, this is not me. I'm so sorry to say. My God.

But I'm so sorry to say. When you go out to dinner with your parents, do you pay sometimes? Yeah. Wow, you've gotten to that point. Yeah. And you know what? That's the answer. That's when you know you're old.

That is when you know you're old is when the credit card comes in your fighting or the bill comes in your fighting. Kind of like, oh, I got it. Oh, I got it. I got it. I got it. All right. You take it.

I'm like, excuse me? I'll be honest. I'm not. I don't. I'm not there. Yeah, I take it because it's, I feel like it's like, I feel like it might be like a guy thing too. It's like I got it. Really?

Yeah. I don't know. Yeah, maybe. I also booked their hotels. No. And I made all the reservations with your heart. And this is before like I figured out, I was sick all while having a 101 degree fever. Which I was like, I can't let them know.

I'm under the weather. They're not going to like New York. They loved New York so much. That they not been? So my parents are of the elk of like, they've gone to places one time. Because my dad's a pilot, he would go to a place one time.

And he'll talk about it from 20 years ago, 30 years ago. He's like, doesn't go back to New Orleans because he's like, I got arrested there one time, a long time ago. It's like, it's gross, whatever. And I'm like, well, it can be gross, but it's a very special place.

And then, like, New York, he's like, it's, it's loud. It's packed with people. I'm like, are you thinking of Times Square? Uh-huh. Because we went and walked along the Hudson, and he was like, it's so clean. And I was like, this is like, it's nice. Like, it's cool. We got a drink.

They were having the, the best time. Yeah, that's lovely. Like, I took him to a restaurant. They were like, we want to go back there tomorrow. Like, they were just stoked the whole time. My mom, on the way out six times. She's like, we can go back here, like, while you're on tour and we can help, like, furnish it while you're, like, they want to come back.

It was so cool. Oh, good. I know. I was shocked. New York really is like you can go and stay on one block and hate it and then come back and stay the next block over and then have the best time. Yeah. One thing I love is that my mom will talk to anybody. Like she will, she's someone who will like go up to a table at a restaurant that has a newborn baby and be like, can I hold your baby? And usually people are like, no, but with my mom, they literally hand her. the baby. Wow. That is so the opposite of my family. I can't stress it enough. No, she's stopping

every dog. She's stopping every dog. What breed is this? I love this breed. She's asking people where their accents are from. Oh, we were guessing Spain. You are Spain. Oh my gosh. I knew it. Spain. It's like wild. That's lovely. They're like a good fit. Yeah, they're a good fit. Yeah, they are a good fit. But yeah, it was great. It was super fun. That's great. I wish I wasn't under the weather the whole time. Love that. How's the weather over there? Gorge I think it's warmer there than it is here It was like 80 all weekend

Oh I'm so ready for summer Hot hot hot yeah I know I was in Miami last week for that show Yeah And it was I love Miami Interesting

I mean that's not surprising But I don't know that I've ever been Anywhere besides like Wherever Versace's mansion is Oh that's a different area Yeah. Anyways, I enjoy it.

We should go to Miami one time. Not quite South Beach. It's a little too party club vibes. No, where was I? Is that South Beach? Yeah, South Beach, probably. Yeah, I need to go to the more tame area. Yeah, Coachella.

I love Coachella weekend, too. Special place. It's a place for special girls. I guess you're wondering how the cats are doing, huh? Oh my gosh, fill us in on the cats. So they are driving me to the bottle, Connor. They are driving me to the Captain Morgan Chili Lime. Now, that's mouth blowing because it has been so long and it's mouth blowing that they,

because I just talked about this for someone else. I don't know why I lied. I was watching a video on Do Do Doe. Love Dodo. Me too. But it was like the same sort of thing. It's like they didn't get along, didn't get along, didn't get along. And like six weeks in, they're cuddling.

And I'm waiting to walk in the door to them just like grooming each other, cuddling. We keep making so much progress. Like Rob will be on the bed. John is now comfortable coming on the bed, which is great. That's huge progress. Like he'll sleep with me.

Rob will be on the bed. That's all good. But then like Rob will sneak up and like give John's ear like one little lick and then clock him in the head. And it's just like. And then that's tough love. The other day, Rob was under the cover sleeping with me. And then John, like, crept up, saw the blob under the covers and then just repeatedly nailed Rob, like over and over. It's like insane.

But then like they'll also like have little moments. So I don't want to separate them because they're, they are making so much progress. But then they'll have a set back. Do you separate them when you leave the house? No. And they're, every time I. love the house like I come back and they're in the same room like one on my bed one on the cock chair like they enjoy being in the same space did you did you set up your wing camera

mm-mm I need to you should they enjoy being in the same space clearly it's when they get too close one of them gets spooked or something but there's been progress little moments turn into big moments they are waking me up every hour which is great yeah um you know it had has been harder than I anticipated. It's not something that I expected, but it's a challenge that I'm meeting. Good for you. Kiss your brain.

Pat yourself on the back. Pat yourself on the ass. Yeah. My, um, Mimi. Yeah. Is, has a TikTok.

Oh, that cracked me up. And it's like user, this is my grandma who like, loves to take Max to the park in Texas, takes them every day, since we picture every day. She, I got a link sent to me from Cousin Logan. And it's a story posted on a still photo on user 9-6-178, 4-2, 3, 2, 3, 2, 5.

And it's just Max at the park. And it's, so baby, hold me closer in the backseat of your rover. That killed me. It's a chain smoker song in Max. It's just like tongue out at the park on Mimi. me's faceless TikTok story. It's so good.

It's amazing. Do you think she knows that she posted it? I, like, I have no clue. She does DM me, like, all the time. She knows how to DM.

She DMs you, like, videos? Yeah. I'd have a big talk with my family, by the way, the other day about, like, digital...

But prints? No. Digital etiquette, because I'm on a flight the other day. and you can't get calls on a flight if you have Wi-Fi. Like it just says like

miss call, miss call. And then for whatever reason like no voicemail. So I had two miss calls for my dad. And then Mimi text me, call your dad immediately.

And I'm like, oh crap, like what's going on? What's going on? And then no one's responding to me. I'm like, oh my God, someone died,

Max died, something happened. Get off the flight. I fly to Houston. What do you want for dinner? just like so insane. Like, please shoot a text. That happened too often, it seems.

Well, my dad was like, I didn't even tell Mimi I was calling you. I was like, you got to shoot me a text, though. So I like noted that nothing is, nothing's that deep. Right. I need everyone to start every sentence with. Everything's fine. Yeah. Yeah.

I know. I also need no one to call me ever again. That too. That too. So that's where I'm at. I did something in that conversation. that we just had that I've been doing. Which one just now?

That is so horrible and I'm trying to stop. But I can't. I've been finishing people's sentences, but with the wrong thing. Non-stop. That sucks. It's so annoying. I did it with you just then when I said footprint and you said no, etiquette. And then I was like, oh, fuck me.

I've been trying to stop. I did it so bad the other day. Like I finished someone's sentence in a way that was like a, offensive to them because it was someone was we were like I was walking with my friend and we were looking in like a store window and it was like beautiful ceramics and she was like I love those but like and I go you'd never be able to afford them. She goes that's not what I was going to say. And I was like, oh my God, no, I was just thinking because the price tag was like 900. I was like think that's what I was thinking. So I'll just what you say. She was like oh no that's not what I was going to say.

like it wasn't like it was we wouldn't have been able to afford them so it's like wasn't that bad but like it's really bad what I've been doing yeah that's so I'm trying to stop that but I can't for some reason well the first step is acknowledging I don't I don't mind because usually I can't find the word so it actually helps me no I think I think I'm being helpful but like I'm hurting you're not hurting I'm not helping you're guiding you're guiding you're guiding you're guiding you're guiding you're guiding you're guiding you're guiding gently. And then I'm just like kicking myself every time. I'm like, don't do that. Why did you do that again? Oh, gosh, don't be so hard on yourself, lady. It's just like, it's just, I'm just annoying myself. It's fine. Um, I just want to say like, rest in peace, Pope. Yeah. You know, like, I don't know him well. Like, I didn't know him well. Um, he's Catholic. He was Catholic. Do Jewish people have like a Pope Adjacent type of person

Like a Pope type figure? I don't think so. Like Liza Minnelli? Yes. Barbara Streisand. Barberstrizan. Yeah. Yeah. I think Liza Minle is Italian.

Oh. But yeah, you're on the right track. And she is important to many Jews. Right. Um, she hates that account that's like Liza Minnelly's outlived. Really? So stop, stop doing that. I would hate it too.

I'd be like, why is that? Yeah, I would hate that too now that you mention it. But also if I was that account and it was my life and I heard that Liza Minlea hated it, like I would. You would have to disable it because I do think it's- Disable my life as well. It's someone that like really admires Liza M. Yeah, that's tough to hear that you've been doing something that's upsetting. Yeah, that's- You admire.

So who becomes Pope next? It's not like a king. I think it's not like the Pope's son. No, I saw that there's all, I saw the list of like candidates, but I don't know if they're like voted in or how or what. I was going to say it's not a democracy, right? I don't think so, but like it's, I don't know. It's crazy that you would live, do you like, are you boring? What do they do, is he?

It's called a conclave. Oh, it's called a conclave. Like the movie. Oh, I'm familiar with the conclave. Yeah, I haven't seen the movie, but I've heard of it. I've heard, definitely heard of it. But maybe we should watch it. And maybe this is something that someone can answer.

Like, are you born and your parents are like, you know, like, we want our kid to be like the next president of the United States. Like, we want our kid to be the next pope. Do you feel like there are a lot of parents that have kids and they're like, this is the next president of the United States? Probably. There's kids that like are born and they're like, you're going to be an actor, actor, actress. They like go make new teeth for their infant so they can be in pageants. Yeah. I mean, I guess.

Like our kid is going to, like, you'd have to be so holier than thou on such a literal standpoint to be like our kid is going to be the Pope. Also, like, no offense, feel like there's something wrong with like any parent who has a kid and it's like this kid has to be X, Y, Z. Like, that's never going to end well. I agree. And the Pope will never be a woman. I don't think anytime soon. Right.

Yeah. All right. I mean, I mean, it's not okay, but. It might be. Like, we're not Catholic. There was a Catholic. I don't know. It's tough for me to speak on.

It is tough for us. That's probably like a pickup for another day. Yeah, we could even pick it up in the bonus. We could. All right, let's go there. All right. Well, it was good to see you. I'm curious.

Love you, love you, love you, much. Love you all. And we'll see you in the bonus. slash next week. I hope this was such a relaxing episode for you guys and it was for me to just catch up. Just to catch up. To know each other, realign.

Mm-hmm. And move forward. Yeah. All right. Much love. Much. See ya.