Brooke and Connor Make A Podcast - The Nee-Yaww Shift

Episode Date: June 25, 2026

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Okay. Welcome back to Brooke O'Connor Make a podcast. Brooke just posted the official announcement that Phoebe Berman is going Hollywood mode. It's weird because all these episodes will be out like far past all of these moments. Yeah. So like I'm still in my 20s right now. Yeah. Oh my God. Yeah. By the time even the episode we recorded yesterday comes out.

Yeah. I'll be in my 30s. Oh, yeah. My 30s. Yeah. So I get that that's a confusing. timeline but you might you might make the 30 under 30 that just like right in time i think i'm going to make the 30 under 30 today today's my last day of being 30 20 i think you i think you might

just slip in their crack they're going to slip in the cracks today yeah hello Forbes hello hollywood hello Forbes so i i did i just like as we were sitting here blasted out my feeby Hollywood well it's going to be hard for me post and now my mouth is dry and i have to be off my phone for an hour, which is good to do. I'm being genuine. You have a hundred and fifteen comments in three minutes. I don't, don't look at it because my stomach is feeling sick. I have to. I have to. And look at this cake. Look at this cake. Have you seen my cake? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Isn't that perfect? Is he, is he shared, is he shared behind the scenes as me? As he's freaking amazing. It's my boys. I, I don't think the camera can see it. But let me explain it to you. It's my boys reading Phoebe. And by my boys, I mean

John Logan and Shane Hollander. Oh, my dad just texted me. I would like to see those boys together on the ice. Who texted you? Don't tell me. Who wasn't? My dad just texted me and said, say congrats to Brooke. Oh, tell him thanks.

Well, he's really on his phone. He's on it. He's on it. He's on it. What are you doing seeing that announcement like in real time? He has your postifications on. Yeah. I was thinking of having like an earnest conversation today.

But we can do that later. I just feel like I'm not processing everything. And I was like feeling bad about last episode where I feel like I was kind of like not like acknowledging everything that has happened in a way where I like would genuinely like to thank everyone but feel weird about it. So we can save that till a lot later. Whenever you're ready to be earnest. And no, it's just, you know, a lot going on. And for for a girl in her 20s, you know. for someone so young to carry on her shoulders and and that's it and all that bullshit yeah so

what's been going on since i last spoke yes well god where do i begin we have a lot to catch up on um i will say like the first thing i opened my phone to today was um one of our clips with ray is kind of going viral and uh the top search is about laundromats being a third space I don't I'll be honest in the way that like you didn't read Phoebe I didn't watch the episode with Ray and I think we're even I okay well I didn't not read Phoebe I'm reading Phoebe yeah I and I've watched the clips in the first 10 okay well the top search the suggested search for that clip is Connor personality mugged by Ray no yeah so wait I didn't so it's in the same way that like you didn't watch the episode i didn't read the comments yes and my it's i wonder if i'm because someone also said like the first guy the first guy well there's a couple comments are you the first guy i'm the first guy someone said like he he he is the first guy is so unlikable even though i agree with him and i said okay all right and then someone else said yikes is that the dude with that had the poop on his

face? Like they're all, like, I don't know how this reached the side of it. It's an amazing thing. We're known for so many different things by so many different people. Yes. You're an executive producer in a Netflix movie. I'm a guy with poop on my face. Yeah. And it's fine to be either one. Executive producer and. Oh, I don't think it said executive producer. So I don't know about that. Well, it's probably just not, I mean, it's like a no-brainer. Like, that would be, I thought about it after we stopped filming yesterday and it does like there's no other. Makes sense. You wouldn't have.

You know I'm here to ask one question. There's time. This is going to be like a longer. Yeah. Longer process. Yeah. Like you will, that conversation will probably just be.

And it's going to be like this is what. They're going to be like and you're cool like executive produce. Like that's what it's. No, I remember the conversation happened, but it was like a year ago and then it like it's been like pretty much no one said anything since. So I don't know. Yeah. I just feel like they're just tossed that in, even though like it's an amazing, amazing, like, crazy.

It's just like a casual, like, and you'll be executive producer, of course. Sure. Bub, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Geez, you're, I, I wouldn't, I wouldn't, I wouldn't hold it against you if you started kind of acting differently. I was acting. I was like a year ago. Like, I was being really, like, I had my executive producer hat on for like a week. I was like, a lot of people.

People don't know that I'm an executive producer. But that, yeah, that luckily has faded. No, I mean, like, you can, if you just, like, wake up one day and you're like, I'm an executive producer, like, I'll be like, no, yeah, you should. I mean, yeah. A woman of many hats. Wait, are you going to check your Instagram? No, it was making noise, so I turned it off. Wait, I'm addicted to it.

No, don't. Oh, my God. Don't look. Don't look. This girl is really letting herself go. Who? 400 comments, eight minutes. Oh, I thought you, okay, don't look.

My mouth is so dry. It's hard not to. It's hard not to. We have to not. We have such, you know what we should say right now? I'll start the earnest conversation. We have such an amazing community of people that are like, I agree.

These people, I'm like reading them, I'm like, oh, is this your friend? It's probably like just someone that we, that listen, like a listener. No, it is. We've been most supportive and engaged community. Yeah, it's fabulous. engagement is key. Like our followers are so engaged. They're so engaged.

Which is so nice. Yeah. No, I love it, man. I completely love it. Is there a way to turn Conner's volume up? I almost called you calling. It's okay. You can call me, whatever, Mrs. Hawleywood.

Yeah. You just, yeah, you just went up. Okay. Okay. When do you think you'll get the Nepo baby allegations because of your rich dad? Ooh, hopefully soon. Yeah That will be nice

I think that's a compliment That's literally like You know people are like Oh I started to get like Is this person on Ozympic allegations And like when you're not You're like okay that's a huge compliment Like yeah

I started I got at one point When I was going to the gym I was like someone was like Did you get on Ozympic? I was like no I just locked in for one week But thank you Haven't gotten any of those comments recently But like that's like

The NEPA baby conversation is like That's when you know you really made it Career wise and entertainment It's like, wait, I've decided that since this person's parents, like, have seen a movie that they obviously, like, knew the ins and outs of the industry very early, and that's why they were pushed into this world. I've definitely, you know, I had a really good conversation with my moderator in St. Louis because I called myself a NEPA baby because somebody asked about the publishing process. And I was like, well, I had a little bit of an advantage because usually you have to submit your work to agents. And then you get an agent, but I already had an agent. So I had a leg up because I'm a NEPA baby.

And then we had a really helpful conversation for me where she was like, no, you're not an Epo baby because what got you the agents in the first place? And it was my winning personality. So that was helpful. St. Louis changed my life. Oh, you love St. Louis. The only city you explored. The only city I explored. I actually did love St. Louis.

I went to work at a cafe there and the people were so nice. Wow. Yeah. Yeah. Someone from St. Louis was like, please don't walk outside of your hotel. Like after. I'm going to get in trouble for talk. Every time I've talked about a city recently, like the people of that city have come for my jugs.

And like I just ran into someone outside and they were like, we're from Milwaukee. You kind of diss Chicago last week. And I was like, I didn't diss Chicago. No, you said you liked Chicago. I said, I love Chicago. I forget about Chicago and I'm upset that like I don't get to go to Chicago that much. And then I referred to Chicago as a non-binary city and I think that's what's upsetting people, which I think you all need to look inward. Which they need that, that's a, that they need to look in the mirror.

Yeah, why did that upset you? Yeah. Yeah. Totally. Yeah, no, that, that I've kind of been, without you here, I've kind of been getting thrown to the dogs. Like, people have been. coming for me. No, I don't like that. I know. It's scary. Mama's here. Well, I'll take us on my normal ride of just like dumb as hell topics.

I have the one topic that is the like could be the dumbest of hell of all time. No, I promise you, Brooke, like whatever you're going to say, I have three that will. Okay, start with your dumbest and I want to see who swims. Okay, I'll start with my dumbest. And actually, I think this one's pretty intuitive, so that's fine. I keep coming across like for whatever reason a lot of like scientists are coming across my page recently and the scientists are always like

yes I just created like a pink and an orange mosquito and like when when they suck the blood and there's light on them like the blood will and like I'm just like I don't really understand when you're a scientist and like I know you're doing research you know how does scientists get paid like if you're just a scientist in general and it's like I'm studying mosquitoes.

It's like, who is paying for you to study mosquitoes? Like, I get when you study. What? They get grants. Who, from who? Like, you understand what I'm saying, right? Yeah. We just accept when people are like, I'm a scientist and it's like, okay, totally.

And then we just kind of don't check in with them until they're like, I discovered that you could turn mosquitoes green. And it's like, what have you been doing, you know? There's all different types of grants. There's, you can get. some that are federal and some that are, I don't know, but I had a friend who worked in biological anthropology, and I did not understand how she was getting paid and she was getting paid through this grant.

And that's the best I can do for you. No, it is, like, scientists are kind of like these forgotten people because obviously they're making a lot of advancements and they're like, okay, we just were making dogs live longer and it's like, thank you. but like how did you get there? You know what I mean? Like I get you like home in your skills.

That's the case of a lot of people where I'm like, well, who's paying you? Just like anyone who starts a business. Like I was thinking about like owning an animal rescue. And I was like, how do they get paid? That's like a nonprofit situation. Yeah. How do you get paid? Like who pays you?

Well, you don't make a profit, but you still pay. pay your wages. So if you own a nonprofit, you'll never make a profit? It's not for profit, so I don't think. Is that what that means, though? I don't know if there's a difference between non-profit, but not per-profit. But if... Like, what is by definition a nonprofit is something that never makes a profit?

Nonprofits pay employees using revenue generated from diverse sources, money laundering, including grants, donations, fundraising, fundraising, and mission. related service whatever. Like this is like not going to work. But they're compensated as essential operational or administrative expenses. What does that mean exactly?

Payrolls. So they are paid. Yeah. These are not in place working for free. Like if you work in a nonprofit, you do have. I don't think like. Who pays the person who's paying everyone else?

Like if I was like, I want to own a cat rescue and I go through all of the necessary steps. and get all these grants and I pay my employees. Like they're making money. Who's paying me? No one, right? Do I make money?

I think if you started nonprofit historically, and I'm just guessing, I think historically, like, you do have some liquid income and that's why you start a nonprofit to kind of like have some write-off ability. Rather than distributed to owners. Yeah, the owners. So the owner never makes a cent? No. This is like beneficial for them in other ways because I think that they write off the nonprofit

as like an operational business that's not for profit and it counts as charity. Okay. I want to do. I want to do that. I think you would be good at that. I don't think I'd be good at it, but I think that I want to do it and have other people, like, be good at it. Does that make sense? Yeah.

I think it means, I think it's great to delegate tests to people that are, like, more honed in on them, like, scientists. I actually think I would even need to hire a delegator. like I don't think I can do anything but like give like I'll give them money to do everything I think that's smart too you hire save the cats hire a show runner

yeah okay what's your dumb thing because I don't feel like we got anywhere with and I wish I had a better example of like the scientists like do you go to college for being a scientist yes people major in science

Oh But it's like different branches So like Med Medical shit like that Like They can be paid by

Bio Biological anthropology Zoology was one I'm just thinking of This is what Like this is the part that I don't get Research can be designing experiments

Performing experiments Writing numerical program It doesn't make sense. Anyways, we can... Like, that's just kind of like... This is not... Yeah, this is... Like, Brooke, you come to me six months in,

like, haven't heard from me I've been just, like, kind of moving in silence. And it's like, what have you been doing? I'm like, oh, I've been performing experiments. And it's like, if I hadn't been performing experiments, I can just tell you I've been designing experiments. Like, I have a concept of an idea of what I want to work on. I'm not saying scientists don't do anything.

I'm just saying it's like a really good job for someone that, like... if you're really good at it to just like fuck off for three months and then come and be like, I just turn to mosquito green. Brooke, I gotta tell you, I'm excited to see Olivia Rodriguez later this year. I really am. Did you listen to the album?

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No, adore science. Why am I obsessed with science? I know. I'm being so genuine. Like, I really, really care for it. Like, can't do it. You're not supposed to be able to do it. But, like, I really appreciate the people that do.

And I think it's an amazing thing to do. way to just like cover all your bases with that no i'm being like it's that's coming from my heart yeah that is not me saying that just because like i i heart science no science is all good in my book watch like every episode that comes out like i'm gonna have like a liege of scientists that are just like coming from my like i'm gonna be on like a science subreddit be like he hates science i don't fuck with physics brook that's just because like i'm not afraid to say that no It's just because, like, we don't understand physics. No, it's not that.

I don't like it. Like, truly in all of the science classes I've taken, it's been like, oh, I don't get it, but that's really interesting. If I did get it, like, I could see myself really appreciating that. Physics, I never felt that way. You don't have an affinity for physics. Like, even chem with, like, all of the atoms and molecules and the mitochondria and all that, I was like, that's, cells are amazing.

Like, that's so cool that all of this stuff is going on in my body. Like DNA don't get how it works, but like so fabulous. I never felt that way with anything with physics. Velocity, I don't care. Yeah, I actually, when I went trivia the other day, I, it doesn't, who cares about what I'm about to say? I mess. I do. I genuinely do.

No, you don't. I do. It was just a question about like which one of these is not part of physics and it was like velocity and the other. Mass don't care. You don't care about mass? No, I don't. I'm trying to think of one principle of physics that I care about. Like space and gravity, like, cool, interesting.

That's the most interesting part to me. Space and gravity? Yeah. But like I don't care about the other stuff. I don't think that that's... Yeah, that's more like, yeah, astronomy. I think those are just things. Yeah, that's astronomy, which is cool.

Yeah, physics I do not fuck with at all. Can you look up like what makes up physics? And let me see if there's one thing that I'm like, good job. And I'm sorry to all the physicists. It's just not my interest. I don't think. Is there physicists still? Matter, energy, space, and time.

Oh, space was right. Okay. But no, different kind of space. Yeah, like I don't, I don't fuck with any of those. Like the one we've been watching. Like spatial. Yeah. Yeah.

I don't fuck with any of that. Electromagnetism. I do not like thermodynamics. I really don't like. I really thermodynamics is my least favorite of the sciences. That is on my, on the bottom. I like relativity.

Really? Yeah. No, that's what I was saying I do too. That's space time and gravity. Oh, wow, Brooke, I'm aligned. Speed of light, I never, I couldn't, I can't wrap my head around that. You know what, I can't wrap my head around and I don't know if I think this is physics. What?

There was a property. when an ambulance drive by you? Is it the Doppler effect? Yes, Brooke, good job. It's the Doppler effect. Can we look up the Doppler effect? The Doppler effect

really always threw me for a loop. Brooke, I love it. I love it. I love it too. No, it's like show round, you know? Yes. But the Doppler effect is the change in the apparent frequency

or pitch of a wave in relation to an observer caused by relative motion between the wave source and the observer. That's what you're about to say. Brooke, can I? Yeah, exactly. In so many words,

what I was going to say, Brooke, is that, like, I think we like sound and things like relativity because they remind us of water. And we love to swim. Yeah, like Doppler, that reminds me of droplets. Yes, yes, that's what I'm saying. Yeah.

So how does it relate to the ambulance? As an ambulance with a blaring siren approaches, the sound waves are compressed causing a higher pitch sound. So what exactly does that mean to me with the ambulance? Because it's like louder when you're coming towards you. And as it passes, it's... It could be the same distance from you,

but if it's in front of you, it's louder and if it's behind you. Yeah. Yeah. As the vehicle drives away, it's moving away from the sounds. It just submitted. The sound moves are stretched out over a larger distance. It creates fewer wave crests, exactly.

Jeep or lower pitch swale. Exactly. Different sounds too, not just softer, different. Right. I part the Doppler effect. No, me too. Doppler for listening. The most recognizable part of the siren sound is the distinct knee-ya shift.

Wait, sorry, can you see it? I totally agree. I want to see how that was spelled because I don't. Oh, N-E-E-E-W-W-W. Oh, the knee-ya shift. Yeah, it's the knee-ya shift. Can that be the title of the episode? I want it to be.

Yeah. Great. Do you want to Can you walk me through your hierarchy of needs? Like obviously we know that the main ones are like Food, Water, Shelter, I think. Yeah. And then the middle is like hugging.

I'm so happy to do that. Yeah. But can I just say like why can't I remember literally anything? But the Doppler effect was like right there. I had it ready. It was, yeah, I don't know. I have ready. What?

And I've had this ready for a few weeks now. The Krebs cycle. I'm sorry. The what cycle? You don't know that one? The Krebs cycle? No. I went to public school.

No, you knew you could learn about the crebs cycle and public school. Yeah, but we didn't though. The central series of enzyme-driven chemical reactions that take place in the mitochondria of the cell. What? Just know that like, and the creb cycle has come up on my personal life a few times in the past few weeks. Just know that. How? You know what else?

No. Avagadro's number. I do know that. I do know what that is. The mole. Yeah. Oh, Brooke, did I have trouble with moles? Oh, Connor.

I remember I got a 59% on that test and my teacher wrote, don't panic. She was so sweet. I remember you through, once you had me, you had me in the beginning. I go, yes, yes, yes. I don't know why as class went on, they're like, let's like push them to their absolute limit. Let's push these like young people going through like all of these coming of age experiences. And let's give them moles.

Let's push them to their absolute limits. And then take these people going through puberty, heartbreak, parents are probably getting divorced. They smell like shit. They're horny. And then give them moles. Life feels like it's over. Let's give them avocado's number right now. You know what these kids need?

Thermodynamics. Worst mental health numbers in the history of recorded history. Let's give them avocados number. Let's push them to the absolute end of their rope and give them a 59. Let's absolutely have them question. their relationship with their family and how they were raised even on a spiritual level. And then let's introduce O'Kim.

What a weird thing to do. It was downhill very early for me in terms of math because I really truly wanted to be good at math because all of the guys were really good at math. It was better at English. I was better at history. I think every class should be optional. Well, it's just so standardized.

know, and we're just not standard people. No, we should all get to choose what we want to study. And, like, I wish I knew about, like, more, like, different things than the Doppler effect. I do. Because I will say, until this moment, Doppler effect, it didn't affect me. But, like, I wish I knew, like, how to, taxes, you know? Like, that should be what's required is, like, how to be an adult. My, yeah.

And Doppler should be an option if you're interested in it. it. My favorite thing was like that cartoon of the monkey, the draft, the lion, and the turtle. And it was like, okay, now climb that tree. And the turtles like legitimately I can't. And they're like, well, this is the standardized test, like for everybody. And it's like, while it doesn't really apply because there were different species, I do think it's reflective of people's different abilities. He was not good. I could not do math. And the way that my professor, I told you this in calculus, like in college, when I was in college to be an engineer, passed me based on genuine just likability and charm, which I'm very flattered.

She shouldn't have because if I would have built a bridge that she'd have blood on her hands. Right. It needs to be about equity and not equality. And I've always said that. Right. Okay, hierarchy of needs. Speaking of that hierarchy of needs. Like the things that I like need to survive.

Yes. My bed is like genuinely number one. Well that would be under like shelter. It's, I was going to say it's not under sleep. Because I don't work in my bed. I need to recharge in my bed. That's just like where my like past times need to have. Wait.

Like, I can reboot my nervous system. I'm going to look up the actual, like, science. Oh, okay. Self-fulfillment needs. Yeah. To achieve one's full potential, included creative activities. Bet. Because that goes at the top.

Self-fulfillment needs. Can you hear me? Yeah, I'm trying to read because... Oh, I see. I see. Okay. I had it backwards. Okay.

All right. Okay. I get it. So I would say warmth and rest. would be your bed. So that you're right on the money there. Yeah. I would say physiological needs. Can I be honest? To survive. Physiological is always a word that has given me pause. Okay. I think my thing is like just a triangle and I don't think there's levels. Fine. Let's take her own. I seriously like I have to go swimming or I'll explode, you know? Like I genuinely like, you know when people are like I'm low in iron, I need

to eat red meat. I need to take a supplement. I truly feel like when I'm without swimming, when I'm without some body of water to jump into and float, I'm off. What kind of sign is Virgo? I don't know. Maybe it's a water sign.

Let me check. It's an earth sign. That also makes sense for you. Can you hear me that it's Earth? Oh, what is Earth? I'm sorry. What does that mean in terms of? I think it just means, yeah, what does that mean?

Does it mean these people connect more with the Earth or the Earth charges them? They're like more grounded. You're more grounded. Earth signs are practical grounded and reliable builders of the Zodiac. Yeah, well, I mean, you read something like that and it does make you not really totally believe in signs and what they mean because, like, I don't think I'm super grounded. Yeah, that's true. Okay, you didn't have to. No, I don't, I don't think that's a bad thing at all.

To not be grounded? I feel like that's like. Well, I guess like, yeah. Like you are grounded in some ways for sure. This is a good time to lock. But I guess I was thinking more of like physically like you're always on the move. Oh. I think it's more of like a more of like a touchgrass type of shit.

What are Geminize? They are air. Air? What the heck? Known for being highly intellectual, communicative, social and curious. Brooke, you were one of the most. Curious girls I know. I don't align with that.

And you're so social. I don't really align. But. Yeah. I also don't really align with Gemini. But apparently, I align a lot more with cancer, which is my other thing. Like you're. I'm a cusp.

I'm also a cusp. And, but cancer's my rising or the other thing, which I align more with. Because I think cancers are highly emotional. Okay. It's just like does. I'm so sorry to people that like really align with this. I just like, it's never made sense to me. And also people are like,

ew, you're a Virgo. Like, obviously that's not something that I want to totally like subscribe to. I've gotten that too with Gemini. I think they get, it's way easy. I mean, like, when people are coming at you, they're like, ew, you're Virgo, I'm just like, well, then I don't believe in that and you're crazy.

Which, like, that would make sense that, you'm a Virgo if I'm like, you're insane. I'm gaslighting. Gaslight, girl boss, yeah. Yeah. It's easier that way. Okay. My dad has called me twice.

It's probably to tell you congratulations. Call him back. No, I'm okay. I'll call him after because he's going to, I talked to him on Monday. He's going to ask me about my move and I don't have any news. Do you want to hear my dumb thing? Yeah. Oh, food, water, warmth, and rest would be physiological.

All right. My dumb thing was that, and I saw this on a clip on TikTok and another podcast did. it and now I lost it so I can't find them. What is it? I probably saw it. It was just them reading the description of Tyra Banks' young adult novel. Okay. And it was called Model Land and it came out in I remember this 2011 and I want to read you the synopsis. Okay. Okay. Okay. I, Well, I'm going to start the synopsis on the goodread synopsis and then transition to the Wikipedia because both have important elements. Okay.

No one gets in without being asked. And with her untamable hair, large forehead and gawky body, Tuki de la Crem is an expecting invitation. Tuky Daily Crive. Imagine, hmm, what should I name her? Oh, Tuki Dula Crem. resting power, Tuki'i. Tukiola Cram. That was me ordering my Pokey the other day.

Can I get the Tuki Daly Crem please? So obviously imagine me like I had had some weed product last night and I hear the words Tukidilla Crem. Tuky Dela Crem. I text everyone. Has anyone heard from Tukidula Crem recently? No one answered. Okay. Okay.

Now I'm going to move over to the Wikipedia. Wikipedia. No. Model land. Okay. Get this. Yeah, she goes to the boarding school model land for a chance to join the intoxabella's, the most celebrated models in all the world. Along the way, she meets a plus-sized girl named Dylan, a 4-foot-7-inch girl named Shiraz, and an albino girl named Piper.

Okay. Okay. Together they form a strong bond as they face the trials and tribulations of model land and endeavor to find the truth about why they were all accepted to it and why a mysterious imposter seems to want nothing more than for them to be gone. Okay. So I have to read this. Yeah, right. I also just want to flag like it's so important to have like a really good circle of friends. Like, and I'm not talking about the book. I'm talking about why did none of Tyra's friends say, hang on. Hey guys, we want to take a break to thank a sponsor of today's episode, OG. Have you ever put on a full face in the morning and by the end of the day it somehow looks heavier and cakeier? Yup.

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like plus side totally good four foot seven totally good albino girl totally fine but coming from Tyra yeah coming from Tyra there's a there's an undercurrent yeah

and it's just something that I want to read I know this is just what happens when there's a lack of checks and balances you get the reception Publishers Weekly Considered the book Overlong, Campy and Warped

And a nonstop barrage of surrealism and wackiness But conceded that it could serve as a guilty pleasure Okay Yeah, I mean Someone compared it to a Dr. Seuss book It had a promotional single A song? Yeah, model land

Perfect So yeah, just know that like Last night I was like really truly like Tuky Tula Crem was a part of me last night. Anyway, that's my stupid thing. Well, it wasn't as stupid as me being like, I don't know what a scientist does, so.

Stupid in different ways. Uh-oh, I went on my phone. Brooke, this is the... Oh my God, Brittany had somber on royal court. What? Brittany had somber on royal court. Oh, good for them. I bet they hit it off. Did you hear the song I was playing?

No? No. Is that Model Land? I can't, it's coming through so warped. It's like giving Doppler effect. No, Brooke, that's how it sounds. Wait, actually? Yeah, I promise.

Is he, are we going to get flags if I play it on my phone? Or does it? Who cares? I'll bleep it. Model. Is it called Model Land? Yeah. No space. It's by Kuntlina Xavier Oh my god, wait

Was it B a Star from Life Size? No Oh, it's by I see Cuntland Xavier But I don't With four chicks Yeah, it's just by Kuntlina Oh, cool

You like it? I do You're like Xenon Okay, loved that. Yeah. Anyway. Did you ever see Life Size? I don't think so. That was an awesome movie.

Just from what I remember. I remember it, but I don't, I didn't, I never saw it. Was that Lindsay Lowhan? What didn't she do? She was just a child. She really was. Yeah, that was good. Have you thought about

while I'm gone who you're going to have who you're going to have on the Oh wait you don't have to have someone on the podcast Yeah I do because we're oh Who will you have? I'm probably cat Yeah Like if we want a good episode

I'll pick a guy No I was not a dig That was not I mean like more of a standard Like you know like Yeah Standard Then I'll But who else could I pick if we wanted to go more of like the take a risk route?

Why don't you have someone on that you want to talk to about your movie and your book? I don't. I do feel really done. Okay. Got it. Well, I, while I'm studying abroad, I'm working on people that might want to come on while I'm abroad because I found a podcast space in France that I can borrow. Seriously? Yeah.

Who will you have on in France? I don't know. Maybe I'll ask Brittany if she's. if she has time. I don't know if she will have time. She's going to be very busy, but she's there. That could be hot. Yeah. Okay. It'll be about 6 a.m. for you, I think, if I've, so I don't think that that would be like a, but we could just have it. Doesn't hurt to have it. Doesn't hurt. But I'm trying to think, like, who else do we have that's like Ray? We have our friend from Doritos. Yeah. Which, like, I would like to be there for.

So that, I don't know about that. But like, we have Joanne from our Joan from Jones on third. The Barnes & Noble girl. The Barnes & Noble. I haven't seen, I think she got, she ended her partnership with Barnes and Noble. I think. I don't know. I'll think on it.

I don't know. Okay. I can't think of anyone. Did you know that last night I got so scared in my apartment that I almost got a hotel room? No, I didn't know that. I don't know about my well-being in terms of the hierarchy of needs because you know how like safety is number two for hierarchy of needs? For me, safety is one, you know? Yeah.

And there was someone outside making threats to what seemed like maybe the wind for like 10 or 15 minutes because I was able to peek out from my from my hovel and see that there was no one else. there besides them. Okay, well, that doesn't involve you. You're right. It just makes you question like the strength of the window, even with the bars. With the bars, like, truly nothing can happen. Like, could theoretically, they put their arm, because I've thought about this with my bars. Worst they could do is break the glass, like, punch it through the bars and have their hand, like, coming in and flailing. But. I would hate that. That doesn't affect you.

I think on my hierarchy. Yeah, obviously it's not ideal. I think on my hierarchy of needs, it's like no arms in my room. I guess worst case scenario would be there's like a weapon in their arm and their hand. But like even so, you could dodge that. I don't, not like a dodger. Worst case scenario is some sort of poison. Oh, stop.

That they sprinkle. I don't. Or like a. A grenade. Brock, stop. Bro, imagine I die because if someone puts their arm into my room and puts a grenade in my bed. Like, that would be bananas. I wouldn't even care.

Like, if they do that, that would be just like, okay. Like, you work. Wait, are grenades? No, that's a landmine. Grenades, you just have to pull the thing out and throw? Yeah. Okay. Got it.

I, tomorrow, it's going to be the most. fun day I've had so far all summer because it's the Knicks parade and everyone is that I know is like taking off of work because a lot of them are like I wouldn't even be able to get to my office and we're going to go. We found a restaurant that's letting us go at 7.45 in the morning before the parade and play our own music and because I saw this video of these guys in a locker room. I think they were like soccer players or hockey players and they're all singing Man I Need by Olivia Jade. Wait, Levy Dean.

Yeah. And I was like, I need to do this. I need to sing, man, I need with like a group of people, like jumping around just like pure joy. And the restaurant agreed. That's awesome. I'm going to be on cloud nine tomorrow morning. Were you really invested in the games? I have, you know, I don't like care for basketball.

Yeah. But it's just so cool that like it was like when we were all watching. And like, I'm okay to acknowledge, like, the bandwagonness of it. Like, I am a bandwagon. I love that. No, I love the bandwagon. Yeah. And, like, when we were all watching Tiger King and Outer Banks, like, I have lacked that feeling until the Knicks started playing.

And it's like, every people I know that don't know what, like, Nixon five means. Like, it's like, they're saying it. I'm like, I can tell you that you don't say it. But, like, you're enjoying yourself. And it's, like, pure of heart. Was anyone rooting for the other team? So they're the St. Antonio Spurs. And so I was getting a lot of heat, speaking of, for not, they're like, you're a fake from Texas.

I'm like, I've never lived in San Antonio. Right. I have no attachment to the spur. Just because they're in Texas, I'm a fan. I live in New York. Yeah. And this is the team. I didn't see anyone talking about them.

Yeah. I didn't even know who they were. It definitely is the more popular thing to be a fan of the next. It's like, it's been 30 years, I think, since they won. And so it was just like fun. And obviously the pop culture of it all, the timothy. Shalame and Taylor Swift and everything is like catching a lot of eyes. I wasn't connecting until I saw an edit to Hamilton.

Okay. The lyrics, Connor, it's from Skyler Sisters. History is happening in Manhattan. History is happening in Manhattan. And we just happen to be in the greatest city in the world. That playing with the Knicks shooting hoops, I had tears in my eyes. I really, truly like, it's. It's like fake summer camp city right now.

Like it's like you walk past a coffee shop in the mirror and someone's like, have an awesome day. You know? And it's like, and I'm like, you too, man. Like it's just like everyone's hot. Like there's no strangers right now. It's like the coolest thing you're walking in. They've never really brought people together. Yeah.

I was like, I forgot my wallet. I had ordered a coffee and just the barista goes on me. No. Yeah. I was like, this is just bizarre. Like, great. And I was like, I'll be. back later and I'll come to I'll come just like drop off some cash you know but um what was it going to say

oh I watched the game on this like the last game on this little miniature TV that was hanging up at the comedy club in Orlando which I didn't even talk about this yesterday but like those Orlando was like two of my best shows I've ever done in my life I didn't even do my my set that I wrote like I just was like off the dome doing jokes it was just like so much fun and then watching the next when and then Disneyland the next day it was just like a it was like I went to Disney because the next one but tomorrow is going to be an absolute movie just I'm I'm so excited to be here in the city of that never sleeps wow I would like to go there sometime soon I hope you come for my crawfish boil I hope you have your crawfish boil in August I am cool I'll be there yeah end of

August because I'm like not even here for the rest of the month and then into July I'll be there a lot LA what's in your sonic cup diet coke oh I thought it was grape juice no it's diet Coke it was just warm out so my ice melted but I could go for grape juice which is like not something I ever really typically crave the blood of Christ oh see and I was thinking of Shabbat grape juice there's we have a lot more in common than you would think you and I So my religions, all religions really do. Like they both have grape juice. I think we can all agree on grape juice.

Yeah. I think we all drink grape juice. Yep. We all bleed grape juice. I really want to piece of my cake. Why don't you have a piece of your cake and eat it too? I don't, well, then I like won't be able to talk to you. And I really need you here with today.

Yeah. I looked, I had to look it up this weekend because I almost captioned my photo from Florida, Eat Your Heart Out, Florida. And then everyone was like, do not post that. That's like, that's like a big fuck you to be like, eat your heart out. Oh, I get that. I thought, I thought Eat Your Heart Out was like, thanks for having me. Yeah, I love you and I had a great time.

No, yeah. Eat Your Heart Out is like last words. Like you turn around over your shoulder. Like, those are the last. That's a, it's a goosebumps walk away. Oh, my God. God, I should have just said, eat me out, Florida. Yeah.

That was great. Yeah, eat me out if I'm wrong. Oh, bring that back. I've been saying that a lot. Have you? Eat me out if I'm wrong. Yeah, I've said that. Today was a movie.

I don't know if you have said that. Definitely have. Are you traveling this summer? So I am really like putting this off, but I might be traveling for the 4th of July, I've just been waiting for the last to the last minute because I didn't like when I was touring, I was like, there's no way I'm getting back on a plane and leaving the cats again. Yeah. But now like as time passes, I'm like, I don't know.

Should I go? So wait, where? 30A. But I don't know. Like I literally think I will decide the night before. Mm-hmm. Because it's mostly leaving the cats, which I do think I've developed a problem. What?

Like I don't think it's like a normal. like I don't want to leave my cats I think it's something more severe Okay Like I truly think I'm like ruining their lives They like want you to head out for a little bit So they have space

No if I leave Like I really feel like I'm abandoning Especially Rob because he's so clingy Like I truly believe in my heart That I am like completely abandoning him And breaking his heart Well Izzy when you were watching the boys Were they attached at your hip too?

Not as much, but Rob grew on me. John, yeah, but not Rob. John, I don't worry about. John's very independent and loves whoever is there. Rob is a very, he's a mama's boy. Yeah. He's a mama's boy. And he was the one that almost died.

So I think after that happened, I got, like, I'm just scared to leave. Is he sent the cutest picture of him on the first week that I was gone. and I kept staring at it and then eventually I realized his lips looked pale and then that was that was it for me I was texting Izzy five seconds every five seconds to ask about the color of his lips

I didn't know cats had lips I don't love that he has the sweetest little lips but they were pale but he was totally fine they was just the lighting lactation came up again this weekend and I had to like I kind of like forgot we were filming

and I was like telling everyone how I lactated once and like people don't respond well to that right i think it's because like it's so obviously not like milk so it's like what the other option like of what it is is upsetting no no no no no no obviously i got into a bit of a hole and we started googling it it is milk like there are there are there are recorded instances of um fathers that have had to for survival, like feed a baby. Yeah, wait, no, Izzy, I'm not kidding. I'm not kidding.

I am not kidding. Izzy, can we Google this? No. There are, like, there are recorded stories, and a lot of them were like in, like, I think it was like somewhere else. It was not like United States cases, but there were instances of fathers breastfeeding babies. Yes, men possess the mammary glands and hormonal receptors needed to lactate and produce milk

covered. It's biologically atypical for them to do so under normal circumstances. is when male lactation does occur, it's medically referred to as galactoria, which is awesome to say. Lactation is triggered by a hormone called whatever. Well, men's levels are usually too low to produce milk. Elevated levels can spur milk production. Common triggers for male lactation include medical conditions. Right. I'm not like squirting. You know, like I... So what is happening? I'm not... This happened one time when I was in high school. And we were like, and like everybody was everybody was doing it i i actually have chills like in a bad way okay if

if brook if all your friends were lactating would you do the same no because not right now because it's like making me feel really sick and in a way that like i i don't like you shouldn't you shouldn't say that about men's bodies i'm i'm i'm really sorry like it's physiological did you know that it is possible to make cheese out of breast milk? I don't want to talk about this. What is grossing you out about breast milk, broke? It's something, and it's not, I'm not happy about it. Have you, have you tasted it?

Mm-mm. It's just making, like, me feel weird right now. I just want to have a conversation. I just, I'm trying to have a conversation. I know. I so appreciate it, but for whatever reason, it's not the conversation I want to have. There's nothing wrong with the conversation you're trying to have. Okay, how can we shift to...

Except for the way my body's reacting to it. Something adjacent to breast milk, but like not, we don't have to talk about breast milk anymore. I will say I had an oyster last week for the first time ever, and I can never have one again. Those are the one shellfish I can't do. Is oyster shellfish? Yeah, right? That's the one shellfish I can't do. It's too boogerie and slimy.

It tastes like mucus. It's not going to work for me. It didn't agree with my body for one and two. I'm just like really not drawn to something where it's like, okay, swallow it whole, hurry. It's like, well, then why did you even do this? No one's making you do this. I love clams and muscles. Yeah, I had a really good clam chowder last week.

I don't, I don't, you know, I haven't had clam chowder. Clam chowder, it was really good. That's my second time having clam chowder. They told me after that there was a lot of fish mixed into the clam chatter, which I'm so glad they told me that after. But, yeah, things I did that. Yeah. I think you would like muscles because usually the way it comes, listen to me. It just comes in like a lot of butter.

Brooke. And salt. And you just like it's really for the like butter and salt that you dip the bread in. When people try to convince me and they have my entire life to eat the shrimp, eat the muscles, it's fried and it tastes so good with butter and aoli. My hair fried and dipped in aoli would be good. A pencil would be good dipped in aoli. like and deep fried. That's not a good argument. It wouldn't, though.

It wouldn't. I'm okay. I guarantee you right now if we were to deep fry your hair and toss it in a garlic butter, it wouldn't have the same Junicequa that muscles have. It's just like, you guys, I'm like so happy. I'm an ally with you guys. Like, get the muscles. Get the muscles.

I love when you guys eat muscles. It's great. Get all the muscles you want. I am going to be over here eating a chicken club. And that doesn't affect you. I like am okay, you know, more for you. Listen, that's fine. You can like what you want to like.

I'm just saying, like, it is just, like, drinking butter and salt and garlic in a way that I prefer. There's just, like, no need for me. It's like straight up. There's no need for me to do that. Neat, no rocks. There's no need. It's fine. I ate gator last week, too, which is also.

I don't want to do that. It's very good. Apparently, that tastes like chicken, though. It does. It's a little chewier, but it was good. And guess what? It was deep fried and dipped an aoli. So who knows? Yeah. You know, I'm not eating like gator sashimi. My favorite kind of aoli is just like mayo. It's more mayo. Yeah. Totally. Do you, girl? I had it. Well, I like, I don't really love mayo. I haven't loved mayo. My mom. That was one of the things where like my mom like would sneak it onto my sandwich and was like, gotcha. Like you're eating mayo. And I'm like, Why do you like need to sneak mayo into my same? It's not even, it's not like it's a health food and I'm taking supplements. Why did I need to have mail?

Why are you like trying to wean me on to mayo? That's something that like people get off of. Yeah, that's interesting. That's interesting. I think it was because she'd always make like, like for hikes and stuff, she'd make a bunch of sandwiches and like, I'd always be like, I don't want mayo. And she's like, I'm making them all the same. And it's like, thank you so much for making the lunch.

But what is the need to put mayo on my sandwich to like, like when? What's one food that you don't like that you really wish you did? Seafood. That you wish you did like it? Yeah, I wish I could wrap my head around like a brand zino, which is just disgusting to me. I don't fuck with that either. Yeah.

I don't want just a fish. With the head on it? With the head on it? I don't want that. No, but I like shellfish. Like escargo frog, like all the French food. I don't like French food at all. Me neither, but I don't need to like that.

I don't either. I'm okay. I'm okay not. I'm okay not liking that. I don't really like gazpacho. I'm okay not liking that. I'm okay not liking the brandzino. I wish I liked most of the stuff on a charcutory plate. Oh, I will eat the wooden board that the charcutory plate comes on. Like every time there's like a soft cheese that comes out, I'm like, put the soft cheese up my ass.

Yeah, I know. I'm heading out so no one knows I took it. I you know how I get around charcutory boards I just don't like how the charcutory board of it all I turn into this version of myself where like I'm really competitive and I'm watching I'm like counting you had four grower like there's

I go survival mode I go hunter and gather mode I go I need to have those four grapes and that pretzel and I need to beat you and I keep you track by how much you've been eating and I don't like the person I'd become around a charcutory actually worst case scenario would be like a crumbled cheese and it just gets on everything

It's not a realistic option to have a crumpled cheese on a charcutory board. I feel like that happens. Do you remember when we went out to Malibu that one weekend and we had that person come in and make that massive kitchen island charcutory board and were you there? No. It wasn't. It wasn't there. It was someone rented it and we were way out. Everybody came.

Like it was like. What do you mean? Like everybody was there Like Courtney was like Parchment was there I'm pretty sure Like it was the entire group Caitlin Duran rented the house

Oh I wasn't there Oh no I wasn't invited to that Oh okay Well I didn't realize But it was funny because There was just this huge We were all leaving the house Like checking out of the Airbnb

And no one knew that this like Charkourri board maker came to the house And like We were all like Oh cool Like, we have to stay here and everyone just kind of like putting as much cheese and grapes and crackers into their mouth. Because, like, she set this whole thing up as, like, a surprise. But we were, like, all checking out and had to be cleaning up.

And it was like, oh, my gosh, we can't leave this, like, kitchen island sharkoutery out. It is weird. You like the thin slices of salami. Well, that's what I was going to say. Like, obviously, I don't totally understand the rules and regs of leaving food out for hours just at room temp, especially the meats and cheeses. just like that doesn't really clock to me when like people get mad at me when I leave a pizza out overnight. Like if you're in a hotel and it doesn't fit and then the next morning, you're like, I'm going to have a piece of pizza and people are like, there's pepperoni on that. Like you'll get in

I'm like, but you'd eat a charcutory. Right. That's also cheese and dried meat. I totally don't get that. That's so true. And think of like brunches when there's like little club sandwiches out. I don't get why sometimes it's okay and sometimes it's not. I think it's all mental girl. I wonder. And people say that rice is the worst thing to leave. out. Did you know that? No, that's, that's, uh, they debunked. Really? Yep.

Someone was like, we do it all the time. So I, I had a genuine, genuine, almost like, it's, the thing is, it's not, um, not unwarranted because the, there is science behind rice going to room temperature. Like, you can die from it. Sure. But then someone, like, a lot of people that were raised with a lot of rice were like, this is not true. I've been doing this for my entire life.

Like, that's just not, I don't know. Well, it might happen. sometimes and just not to those people. Even if it's like rare, it's still good to know that you could die. I know, but I was wasting so much right, like leftover rice. It's like if it ever got to room temperature and if I had left a restaurant and I have to go box and the rice on the way home, I'm like too scared to even make it to the fridge because I'm like what they got to room. I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about like leaving it out. Like if you left your rice out on the counter for a few hours, like that apparently like you need to throw away. Can we goog that?

opposed to like if I had a sandwich out for a few hours, I'd still eat it. Reheated rice syndrome. Throw out your rice or you'll pay a price. Wow, this is like a riddle that I have to tell people before they come into my dungeon house. Reheated rice syndrome is food poisoning caused by bacchilius, serius, a bacteria that spreads improperly cooled starches. Throw out rice and other stargy foods that have been left out at room temperature for more than a couple of hours. These toxins are heat-stable and will survive getting zapsed in the microwave. Whoa.

Okay, so that sucks. How can rice make you so sick? It's like E. coli. Unlike common food-borne bacteria like salmonella and E-coli cooking or reheating your food won't protect you. I didn't know that reheating your food protected you from E- coli. Ooh, I, ah. Well, it's like the microwaves. I don't want spore-forming bacteria.

Yeah. Yeah. We don't, yeah. We don't have to do spores. I had a dream. breast milk or spores. I had a dream that Tristan, Channing, and Sodi had some sort of horrible sickness and they were green and so sick and they were like quarantined in a hotel room but Channing was going

live. And they were all so sick and had one toilet and were like fighting over it. And then me and Megan lived in the woods and we were like trying to tune into the live but couldn't get signal. What do you think that means? You love your friends? Maybe. okay well it was nice talking to you today likewise and have fun in France and congrats to you

executive producer brook avric New York Times best seller Brooke avrick happy birthday to Brooke average oh I hope this is the most amazing last day um in this era and we will welcome you with open open open arms when you're on the other side thank you for having me and I'm excited to wake up tomorrow morning and play 3090 and really mean it. Yeah. Yeah. Yep, yep, yep. Because I've never done that before. Well, keep me updated. Obviously keep me in the loop. I'd love to, I'd love to stay abreast on how it goes. Okay. I will be in touch. Okay. Okay. All right. Thank you guys for listening. Love love. We'll see you shortly.