Brooke and Connor Make A Podcast - Welcome To The Family w/ Dylan Efron

Episode Date: April 17, 2025

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Not now. That was a hot start. Is this the, is this our lighting? Mm-hmm. I've been out of commish for a little bit. Out of commish. We've been remote for a little bit. Stoke to me at back.

Oh, it's nice. Bowie or Bowie? Booy. Booy. Okay, I love that. Like an ocean buoy, of course. It's not a spot. I'm feeling like, I think I need a dog.

I would love if you got a guy. a dog as well. Yeah. It's nice. You need a good dog sitter, though. That's the key. Like, you need someone to, when you're traveling. Yeah, no, I'm doing that way with my cats.

We're recording if you want. Are we? Yeah. Oh, sorry. Can we put the dog thing up or no? But Dylan, don't look at this. If you can. No, Dylan.

Oh, yeah. But also, if you do, it's like no worry. No, that's good. I woke up with a stiff neck the other day. So if I, if I like, can't turn all the way, that's fine. Oh, we were just. talking about stretching we were talking about stretching personally a fan brook doesn't like stretching i didn't say that you said stretching might be good for you but you're more of a cracker that's what

you said yeah it's just like i'm not like waking up and stretching what's your crack that you do let's just like that and for audio listeners i'm just kind of moving my back slightly i don't i don't know some would argue that's a stretch this yeah it's right yeah i guess but i also like cracking cracking my neck. Oh, I hate that. Really? Yeah, gross. Yeah.

Oh, sorry. I wish I had that more. Really. Oh, well, I mean, you can get there. You're an athlete. Yeah, that's, that looks like you were born with that. Maybe it's mentally, though. Are you, like, in what sense?

Unnatural? Yeah, unnatural. Did it go too far? Yeah, your ear just touched your shoulder. Oh. Okay, well, we should probably. Oh, I mean, we can hop in unless you want to, unless you want to go further into your sift neck. No.

No. Okay. Wait, you just woke up with a stiff neck? Yeah, having my first day in Florida. I just got back from Florida. It's just amazing for me to hear that someone that looks like you, and I've seen you with your shirt off, can get a stick stiff neck. Dude, I...

Even you can get a stiff neck. I'm constantly injured. That's my motto. You should stretch. You should maybe try cracking, too. Both. Phone rolling. I need it all.

Okay, well, everyone, welcome back to Brooke and Connor, make a podcast. We're making a podcast in the studio to do. day with Dylan Ephron. This is a big deal. This is a big deal. And thank you so much for joining us. Thank you so much. It's supposed to be here.

Lady Ephron. I was about to say, I don't know if you knew about that. I was, I didn't, do you know the origin? I don't know the origin. Okay. It's not what it seems like. It might be what it seems like, but it's not what it seems like. Basically, Dylan, you know, high school musical came out when I was 10.

You know, it's an important time in a girl's life. And, you know, I fell for Zach. You know, a lot of other people did too. And when it came time to make my email account, I was going for something maybe like Mrs. Ephron or like Mrs. Ephron won and everything was taken. And so Lady Ephron became my at aOL.com became my email address. And then I was like, ha.

And then I stopped using it like, you know, high school or something, but then when it came time to like make a TikTok, I was like, that could be funny to bring that back. And I didn't know that people would just call me, call me that. I love it. But I'm glad you love it. And yeah, I feel like a part of the family. Welcome to the family. Thank you for having me. I love it. It's been an honor to be an Ephron. Are you serious? You look like like just like my cousins. Whoa. Did you hear that?

They're montalva. No, I'm on top. That's awesome. That is crazy. Thank you so much. I'll be thinking about that for a really long time. That's special. Now, like, if you're ever asked, like, is there a lady Afron?

You can be like, yeah, I met her. Yeah. Household name. We go way back. Yeah. That's so awesome. I'm so glad you guys got to have that conversation. I'm really glad I got that off my chest because I was, like, tossing and turning last night,

thinking about it. I was going to tell you that. I didn't know if you knew or not. I didn't know it was an email. Yeah, it was my email address. I like that. Yeah. Thank you.

I'm a little older, so it would have been like AIM or something like that, like the AOL. Yeah. What were those usernames? And it was like my I chat. Aim, yeah. It was my aim, yeah. I didn't have an aim.

I didn't really. I was in that generation. I just never had one. I love the sound of the door opening and closing. Like that is canon to me, but just because my older cousins had aim and they would like set their message and I was always really jealous.

But my parents have had this long, lifelong fear of me being kidnapped. via aim and it's and it's transferred still to now like as an adult they're like hey you know keep your head on a swivel online oh okay I thought I was only on aim still I was like I would use aim still other people were using aim like I would have no hesitation jumping back on aim actually for the first time it would be me getting on aim frog boy 155 was my username 5 by 155 at hotmail dot some people had a song when they logged on Is that ringing a bell for anyone?

Well, Myspace was like that too. Oh, no, I didn't have a MySpace. AIM had a song too. Or was it just? Because I remember whenever my crush would log on, it was like some Lincoln Park song. And so my heart would start to race whenever I heard that Lincoln Park song. But maybe that was just me. I wasn't a user.

I wish I could help. Oh, sorry. Did you used to make like CDs for your crushes? Yeah, burn them. And then they never made me one back. But I really enjoyed burning CDs. from my lime wire collection. All right.

Yeah. You guys are older than I thought. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We're showing our age. You could say that. Yeah.

We end up being rolled in you. I know. So anyways. I was watching your YouTube last night. Awesome. And it was so awesome to get back to my personal roots. You have this series. on YouTube that is so River Monsters adjacent.

Love it. But also Anthony Bredane adjacent. Yep. And it was so nice to be laying in, I was in a hotel last night. And there's only a couple channels. I finally figured out how to like broadcast my phone to the TV. That's exactly. Very awesome.

Yeah, that's cool. But to just be in the pitch black and be like in Guyana with you as you caught this fish. The striped blue one? No, no, no. This was a large, almost eel looking fish. That's Mexico That was Mexico So don't get a twist

Okay I'm gonna get a twist I catch a lot of fish No but it's At some point I was watching river monsters A long time again I was like okay How many river monsters are there

Because he had caught He'd gone everywhere And that man Do you know that man's name? Absolutely What's his name? No I'm blanking on the name But he went to that same spot

And he caught It felt familiar to me Like it was on my home But I know my way around You know Oh booie needs to say hello He's checking Oh hi booie

Yeah, no, huge compliment saying it's like River Monsters and Anthony O'Rourdin, so thank you. It's awesome. And there's like a space open for that right now, I think. And it's like a comfort show because that would just be on. And like, I don't really, you know, that guy to me looked like a River Monster, that, the host of that show way back when. And but like what you said is like going back to your roots. Like I used to sit down. My dad would be watching it. So it's like eight o'clock done with homework, whatever it is. I just go down and watch it with my dad. And that's like, that sparked all these interests I didn't know I had.

Yeah. So that, yeah, it's like going back to the roots and being like, wow, I could actually do what I watched growing up. Yeah. And let's make that happen. Have you ever caught something that you were like actually scared of or seen something when you were diving? Yeah, just last this two days ago I was with crocodiles

and they scare the shit out of everything. Yeah. Could, like, could they eat you? Yeah. Yeah. Oh. I think that they would love them. And the people I'm with, like I'm with my friend Rosie,

who's a herpetologist. Okay. If you mean, everyone knows with that. Of course. They study reptiles. Someone didn't know. Well, what you said? Yeah.

A lip scientist for sure. A herpetology. Right. Yeah. So she's like, they're like, yeah, put your goggles on. We can swim with these alligators, crocodiles. I'm like four feet away from the face. And she's like, yeah, you want to be right on because that's a safe.

Like right in front of the nose. That's the safest place to be. Right where they open their mouth is kind of the place. Yeah. kind of the perfect spot to be. And how much, how well do you know the hurt pathologist? Pretty well.

Like, I've gone shark diving with her and my friend Chris quite often. So, like, I know them and trust them, but it's so weird. I'm like, closer than we are right now to the face. And they're like,

Dylan, you're so far away. I'm like, no, I'm really close. I feel about where I am. She's like, I need a subject. Can you put your head right next to him?

I'm like, no, no, no. Can you communicate under the water? Do you like an earpiece? No, but it's like so shallow that I could stick my head up in here. But yeah, they're very scary. It's like looking at a dinosaur.

Yeah. So what makes you want to be doing that? Curiosity. Oh, you know what they say about curiosity. Killed the cat. Killed the cat. You don't like cats, so. But I have to.

Oh, he wants, this is my Max. Oh, he wants a new toy. He wants, he wants Max. He can have our bimble, our mimble. So when you catch something. What's this? What's this? Do you always put it back or do you ever like eat it?

Yeah, I'll eat, but it's it's very much like purposeful. Like we'll catch one fish and eat that fish for like our group dinner that night. Yeah. But most of the time, like I grew up catch and release fly fishing. So I don't like harming animals. Yeah. We were talking about that recently. Like does it hurt?

Does it hurt the fish? We were. We were talking because I can't even put a worm on the hook because. Yeah. It makes me feel sick. Totally. Because I'm like, oh, they feel that. But then when you fish with your dad or someone, they're like,

fish can't feel it in their mouth. And I'm like, oh, thank God. And it's like, you're just, you're, I thought about it later. I'm like, how did fish just develop this ability to not feel hooks going through their lip? You know, they do, right? Yeah. I don't know how they feel pain really.

But like. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It might just be a, like, in ear piercing. I don't know. But it doesn't, it doesn't hurt them in the long run.

but you can if you're doing it wrong. Like when you're fly fishing for trout, if you're like manhandling it out of the water, like they can develop like scale diseases and stuff like that just from the oils on our skin. So like there is best practices and you have to just learn from someone that knows that stuff to always keep your hands wet. Don't let it out of the water too long.

But if you're doing it right, it's not going to harm the fish. Okay. And you know how to do it. I was watching you teach your little siblings. Oh my gosh. And like talk about the worm. I'm like, I'm like, oh, I need to be the dad here and like, put the worm on the hook and I'm like struggling a little bit.

And then she's like, I want to do it. She just puts it head first. I'm like, dad. The worm, if you can get past the worm, the worm, the rest is smooth sailing. However, I don't necessarily believe in reincarnation or not. When I'm putting a worm on the hook, I'm like, this could be a person that like I'm putting on a hook right now. and like I can't believe I'm putting them through like you would have had to do something like horrible and your past life to become a worm on a hook who are all these worms in the box from the gas station

you know who are these night crawlers what do they do and would I still love them if they were a worm hard to say I don't know they're hard to say but man that will put some hair on your chest to put a worm on the hook that's genuinely I can get a fish off the hook what about when they swallow the hook Yeah, that gets tough. Sometimes they can. And that's when it can go bad. Like if they swallow the hook really far, then you have to fish it out with some pliers. And there might be blood.

Blood is tough. So yeah, it can go bad. And that's when it goes bad. Do you have like a strong stomach for that kind of stuff? I think it's coming from that same thing where it's like I don't want to hurt them. And if I get in that situation where I'm hurting a fish, it's hurting me. And I just want to, I know I need to do it. It's like you're a doctor.

point like you don't just kill it yeah this fish is in the hook in the stomach like I need to get it out let's not baby around this and make it worse let's just you don't just get adrenaline I want to try to save it if I can so oh wow but yeah at that point like if you kill it then you better eat it you better not just like waste waste time it doesn't have to happen often I went ice fishing and that was like the most fun I've ever had in my life we did it in steamboat in Colorado and you chat there all day you drink beers, you hang out. And then I was like, we didn't bring any food. And it's like an eight-hour day.

They were like, you're going to eat. I learned how to, I caught some rainbow trout, as they call them. And we killed them and filleted them and didn't even cook them. We just ate it out of their carcass. Raw? Oh, no. Oh, yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Raw. But it's just out and it's. No, you cooked it, though. Oh, no. We ate it raw. I was going to ask, should we have eaten it raw off of its spine? we did already and it's I'm good you put it on the fire no we ate it raw just right out of its body that's pretty cool it was really cool I feel cool did it it tastes like sushi it's sushi I don't

think you would ever eat like a rainbow trout sushi uh yeah they like clean it for some reason never have that on in Alabama or something yeah at no boo but um no yeah no we just I did it I cut the fish open you cut it on the spine um and then you we cut up the i've seen that in like shows like in alaska they'll like just take a bite right out of the fish and it's so fresh that you're not gonna get sick but i'm wondering now like if that was kosher would i yeah you should have cooked it yeah where did we go from here because i didn't and i ate it i ate the whole thing actually i was really hungry whoa i was like i was like bear grills except six beers deep okay yeah i'll eat the fish raw I bet someone just dared me to do it.

And I was like, yeah, okay, this is what we're doing now. But it was delicious. Between that and the, like, fish hook in the stomach, we need to move on. We'll move on. We need to move on to something else. You dive with sharks. Yeah. Where?

What kind of sharks? Like, so I've done bull. See, already lost me. Already lost you. Yeah. That was the first shark diving I ever did was bull. Where was that? That was in Jupiter, Florida.

Yeah. And are bull sharks known for? There's a lot of casualties with it. There's a lot of casualty. There's a lot of casual. Seek you out, I'm pretty sure, and, like, eat you. No, it's just most of the attacks are, like, surfers and stuff like that. Bull sharks eat license plates.

Like, they will eat. They would love to eat your leg. That's a cool thing about getting into that is you just more understanding, because there's so many irrational fears with sharks, crocodiles, all that stuff. So. What would you say to someone who's, like, a little bit scared to get in the ocean sometimes? Oh, that, like, sharks aren't looking for you. Like if, like, is your fear of sharks when you're swimming?

Just like, I don't want to go out too deep because I do think that I, there will be a shark. No, I think the biggest thing is the sharks aren't, they don't see us as food. Like, they want the bloody fish or whatever that's out there. They want real food. So they don't, they see us and they're going to ignore us nine out of ten times. The issues with shark attacks is like when you see a paddle border and then a paddle border freaks out because of the sharks underneath it and then jumps in the water starts splashing, swimming away.

Now all of a sudden that looks like prey. So the shark's going to go after that prey if it's kicking and acting like prey. So if I see a shark out there, you stay calm. Don't try don't move or back away slowly. Stay on the paddleboard. Like when you're surfing, you normally try to group up. If you have three surfers in the water, you want to group up, make a big footprint. What if I'm just like Lone Ranger?

Lone Ranger. Not on a panel board. Stay calm. Keep your head under water. Head under water. Say the, what is the Mary prayer? I would just start saying all the prayers that I know. But that's better.

The worst thing you can do is see it start kicking, swimming away. Like at that point. Don't act like pray. Yeah, at that point, it's like a good reminder to keep with you. Keep your eyes on it. If you have to, you can redirect with your hands. Like, we have hands. We can push it away.

Yeah. Like, you can punch the nose. You can grab the gills. Like, if it gets the, that close you can defend yourself but the worst thing to do is just start kicking and thrashing first first stop shitting my pants second stop blacking out i i really think i just i pass out that would be the best thing i think i'd pass that would be the best thing yeah i'm i'm i'm dead like i just want to i'm dead i'm dead as a doorknob okay so the first step when you see a bull shark is to don't act

like prey like full blown like every oh it's hard not to coming out of me at that point I am chumming the waters, as they say. Brooke asked me not to talk about poop. We were 17 minutes in. I did ask. I said, do the best you can. As soon as I said that, I go, shit, what time?

Okay. She said, let's keep this, let's keep the deal in episode relatively poop-free. Can't, sorry. That was my wonderful. But it's fine. It's fine.

That was like relevant. It was relevant. It was relevant. It was totally relevant. I actually held back for 24 extra seconds. Yeah. From saying that. Girl,

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Is that right, the right terminology? Growning? Yeah, it was really random. What? Well, so I showed up to the beach. It's my first time ever in South Beach, actually, like on the beach. And I, like, just walk up to the shore for the first time ever, and I'm looking out. And there's, like, just people screaming in the water.

And I'm, I like... Did you think shark right away or no? No. I thought the currents were ripping. Like, there was a bunch of rip currents and stuff. So I just saw like five girls, like their hands are up screaming. There's people on the shore with their hands up. So I just like looked around.

There's no life cards around. And I was with my buddy Brennan and Samizgari was there too. But me and Brennan just look each other and we just sprinted out there. They were like too close. There were two closest to us that already had a guy like helping them in. And then there were like three out further. So I swam one in, swam back for another girl. It was like

Yeah, I don't know It was really real And like we brought like the last girl I swam in I was just trying to calm her down And just saying like breathe breathe And she's just wrapped me in the biggest hug Like doesn't want to let go Yeah

So we hugged for like a full minute Just like hugging this girl on shore I'm like you're safe, you're good And then I just walked away Like never she never said any word to me Luckily, we just walked away and then I went back to normal life. Like, even though you walked away, luckily the press was able to pick this out. I don't know how either.

We're just walking away and be like, that was really weird. Like our first 10 seconds on this beach and there was a rescue. Like Miami's weird. And then we just walked away. It was normal. And then my agent was like, oh my gosh, are you okay? You saved someone? And I was like, did I tell you that?

I was like, I didn't know this. And she sent me the article. Did you feel the rip current when you were in there? or did you also have some sort of training to not feel those? I'm in the water a lot, so I just knew. I felt comfortable. But yeah, it was, the current was ripping.

Like where we jumped in, we ended up like a football field length away. So it was, the current was strong. And yeah, it's just like the girls probably just got a little too far and got scared. Well, South Beach, too.

They probably were drinking. Yeah, maybe. They were a little younger. But it's scary. It's crazy not to have life cards in South Beach, Miami. I think there were lifeguards everywhere, but there's so many people.

Right. I was just there like two weeks ago, and the rip was crazy. Just right in front of these family hotels. But they weren't letting people in the water when I was there. I think after that they started pulling people out of the water. It kind of just turned on right when we got there. Can I say something insane? Yeah.

Okay. Like almost cut worthy if we have to. I think, and this is unrelated now. I wonder if we're going to say the same thing because I thought don't say that. I don't think we are I'm having a really insane person thought it's almost like

should I even I don't know how to word it but how great would it be if your agents were like hey did you find those two girls that we put there for you to save I was thinking they were like is that Dylan Fron

let's drown that was my thought like let's drown here because I'm not saying I would do that yeah the thought might have crossed my mind I wouldn't mind being swam out

by an Afron, you know. I don't think anyone would. God forbid, God forbid I need a little saving. And we can move forward too from that as well because they were. They were really, no. She were drowning. And I want to validate you saving. No, but it's the article is like, do more or something like that, which I guess is like

a gossip. We're friends. We're friends with do. Yeah. We're friends of do. Yeah. And then it's like the article is way too complimentary. Like I, I love you.

I did what I, any, like, I feel like most people would have done in that situation, and they wrote it just making me sound so cool. I was like, do I even want to, like, restory this? I don't know. I was like, it feels like, I could see what you say, like, this is a PR style. Yeah. I actually felt that way, so. Not to make this about me at all, but I have saved someone from drowning, too. Really? Yeah. Let's hear it.

I was in, I was on Oahu. Yeah. at this beach and the waves come in and there's there it's like a known beach to have like rogue sets come in and there were these people like right down at the water's edge they were tourists didn't speak English and people are like oh like you got to back up got it back up and this the set comes in and you always see videos of people getting like crushed and they roll into shore and it's funny and they're fine the set was so big that it they rolled them in and then pulled them back out and there's another wave and my buddy I'm laughing because it was like the first way of the crush him. It's just like, why were you right there when the wave came in? It's funny. But then they started getting sucked out. My buddy runs. And I'm like, like, I'm now, I got to go. Even though I'm not like, I'm not necessarily built like you. But so I was like, I don't know how much of a help I'm going to be here, but they simply like could not get up. So I'm running down. My buddy, it's a man and a woman. My buddy grabs the woman.

And I, so I have to grab the man. And, and I, and I, and I, and I, and, and, I, and, and, I, and, I, And he has since lost his bathing suit in the tide. So he's nude. He did a really similar thing to that young woman did to you where he was holding on to me for dear life. He smelled so bad. And his armpit, he was really hairy. His armpit actually was housing a full head of hair as much as I have on my head. And it's on my person.

And I'm dragging him. I'm like, okay, you have to help me. He's limp. And I'm like, it was just one way. and you haven't been underwater, you've just been on shore, like breathing air. Get up. Get up, girl. I was like, and so I'm pulling him in.

And I'm like, so much time has gone by. I look up. There's a wave. Fully over the top of us. And I just hug my boy. And I'm, okay, here we go. Rush, rolled up. I pull him up.

And then there was a group of locals that, like, took him off me with a towel. And my friends were like, and I was like, we can't. Did you guys hug on shore for a full minute after? We didn't even talk about it for the rest of the day. I was like, why did you pick the girl? Like, why did you leave? Because my buddy's athletic, too.

And I was like, you would have been much more suited, well suited for the man. I can't leave you even told that. I remember it randomly, like when Dylan Efron's here talking about saving two drowning women. Yeah, the first time I met Connor, I almost drowned. Yeah. This is one of my favorite memories of work. And I didn't know that it was just, I was on the shore. like in the water but close to the shore and the waves were just so big and I'm like 410 so I was really

struggling to like stay upright and they were just knocking me down and every time I stood up I would go back down and so a lifeguard came over to me and shoved my face down into the sand I'm I'm underwater like I'm ducking under these waves and I can picture brook I could draw a picture of this from my bathing suit was also off as well from memory He, he, it's our friend Kevin, he's a lifeguard in Orange County. But I didn't know him like that well. Grabbs her by the back of the head. Pushes her face.

And I'm underwater like looking. Brose's face is like this on the sand. And her top is up. And she's on the ground. By the tide. And her face is on the ground. And her chest is out. My chest.

And you're just being annihilated by Kevin, the lifeguard. But I didn't know that that's a saving technique. So I was like, Oh, Kevin, the lifeguard's killing me. I didn't know either. Oh, that was funny. That's how, why your face in this hand? To get her lower?

She was jumping over the waves, but they were breaking on us. Because, like, I know when we're duck diving in big surf, you can, yeah, or if you're just swimming, you can dive down to the bottom and hold on with your hands. He duckedived her torso. I think he was trying to get me like under the waves as opposed to, yeah. But I was, yeah, I couldn't breathe or anything like that. It was like the most vulnerable position that I've ever been in. So, okay, yay.

I have a question for both of you. Me? Yeah, the two of you. Okay. And if I have to fly more than once a month, it's like the end of the world. So has there ever been like any moments where you're like, I'm never traveling again? You probably have a better one than me. I also want to say really quickly that someone submitted this week.

One person submitted. I actually love hearing people's flight stories. So this is for you, listener. And it doesn't have to be a flight story. It could be like. Like a travel thing. Like something like, oh, I got bit by a shark and that made me like maybe not want to go traveling. again. I'm just thinking recently on my last flight, the guy next to me was farting the whole time.

That's never fun. Sorry about that. Yeah. It's really bad. It's, yeah, it was crazy. It was just like constant. Yeah, but yeah, I think some of the long travel flights where it has like multiple layovers or you're getting to a place that's so far away that you have to take all those flights. Like those are those are the ones that make you be like, I want to be home from a month after this. Yeah. But yeah, travel. I don't know. What about you? I like, I'm thinking of like the most miserable times of traveling that I've been. Like in Bali, we didn't have AC the whole time. And I kept getting sick because I was eating street food.

I was going to say like, if you had like really bad food poisoning or something. But those memories are like my favorite part about the trip because I was with my friends. And we were all sick and we were all sweating. And we were on. It was like commiserating. Yep. And like I was looking forward to being back in the AC, but I was also not looking forward to the trip with my friends ending, like the traveling part.

See, I can't, I can't get on board with the joint food poisoning. like making me lie no it's weird like it's like a weird miserable thing but we were all miserable so it was like oh i'm gonna miss this yeah it's the memory yeah afterwards once you're back home but like that that was like my first trip to the jungle like i've i poop my pants i was struggling the whole time yeah a minute it's like you were right behind me with the poop stories what did you eat i don't know that's the thing i just thought it was a little teeny fart i ate dog on accident so that was That's what did it for me. But that's like why I really want to go to like Rajanpah and it's so far.

Where is that? Indonesia. And like there's some incredible free diving out there. And like I've been wanting to go for years, but I haven't done it just because I know it is like such a mission to get out there. I need to spend a month for it to be worth it. Yeah. How would you even begin to think about getting over there? It's just a couple flights.

Like you're flying to the other side of the world. So it's you have to just be mentally prepared for it and start stretching. Start stretching. Stretching is so key. Yeah. You can also take like one large sleeping pill and then you wake up there. That's a quote from parent trap that I, that's the only part. I'm taking one large sleeping pill and I'm shipping you two brats off.

Sorry. No, I'm sorry. I cut you off. I just started going on to a parent trap quote. I always get scared if I have a layover to take a sleeping pill because then it's like, what if I can't like walk? I think it depends on the initial flight, right? Well, yeah, I'm also new to that.

Like, that was like a travel hack that I was like, why didn't they teach me this when I was younger? Yeah. But I did take a sleeping pill on a flight and it was like an upright seat and I slept the whole time. And I was like, oh my God, like I wish I knew this when I was killing myself sleeping on the floor on a flight. Like this made it so much better. But then I did it the next time. How do you sleep on the floor? Oh, I get wild on planes.

Like if I'm uncomfortable, I will stay on the whole flight. I'll get on the floor and lay down. And the flight attendants were just like, you're all good. No, there's some back and forth sometimes. I try to befriend them very early on, so they give me some grace. Yeah, whoa. I had a bad back for a while because I got a bad bicycle accident. So sitting in those planes would flare it up.

Yeah. So I would lay down. I'd just be like, I have a bad back. I need to lay down. Like in the aisle? Yeah, not the aisle. Yeah, in the space in front of your seat. If you have the row, you could lay.

I don't know how you do, unless it's a double wide. Yeah. No, it's hard. Yeah. But there's some seats you can get that have more space in front and stuff like that. No, they even more space seats. The Xero's. I don't believe in any of this lingo that they use anymore.

I think it's fake. No, the even more space. Fake marketing. Don't ever seem to have it. It's a half inch. But also, my legs are. Yeah, your legs are touching the floor. Yeah, I can't touch the floor or anything like that.

So I'm usually okay. We're built similarly. Do you do the seatbelt trick that I, the, I always, I post about it all the time, but it has saved me on flights. Don't with your feet up. Yeah, you sit with your feet up like this and then put the seatbelt around your legs. It's so, it really gently works.

It's the best, do it on your next flight. It's such a game changer. I'll tell you, my mind that I've been doing. I only do window now because I'm scared of heights, so I have to, I have to be in charge of the window. So if someone opens it and I peek out and I see that we're in the air, I'm like, wait, what the hell? That's not right.

And so you leave a shut all time? I don't even open it. They say, can you open that for takeoff? I go, yeah, I'll get right on that. shot. I didn't want to see us take off. And I get against the window and then I pull, you know the thing, the headrests? You can

squeeze it against your head? Yeah. I can, I squeeze it together. It's tight. And then I wedge my head in between the wall. I put a hoodie on so there's like a little cushion. And then I wedge my head between that and it holds your head. So even like when you're in the air and you're not taking off anymore where it's like pushing you. The G-Force feeling. It just squeezes your head there and you can sleep the whole time like this. That's because your neck's hyper-flexible.

though we already establishes. I have a disease, right? I think it's possible because if he has like stretch your cheek out Wow Like he is just like he's just like a stretchy You're like Luffy.

Yeah, he's a stretchy guy Okay Yeah I saw a cat with this disease that you say I have all the time and it was really ugly And nasty so I hope that it I don't know I can't diagnose you Oh everybody did I just saw someone on TikTok that had stretchy cheeks

And they had something Well I have I was I have a dog jaw. Do you know what a dog jaw is? Look, feel it. Oh, I thought you're good. Oh,

Jesus Christ. That's not what I was expecting. He was like, can you help me with this bit to do with Dylan? What am I going to feel? I'm going to try to the dog jaw. You've got soft skin. And Brooke goes, do not bark at Dylan.

And I was like, I'm going to bark at Dylan. Like, if I have two things to ask you is wait to talk about poop and don't bark it Dylan. Check. And check. and chat. We're pretty similar, I think. Yeah, yeah, we're good.

I was like, I promise you, from what I know about Dylan, which is we interacted one time in a comment section last week. He's going to be cool with the barking. I can tell. I'm glad you got it off your chat. I know, that's it.

I feel good about the way it went. That's the only time I'm barking. Broke, of course, right there. I don't know if you notice, because you're probably focused on, like, what is he about to have me touch? But she goes, oh, my God. Like, right when I said dog, jaw.

But it was perfectly. I feel okay. I feel okay about it. It kind of helps sell it because I was like, oh God, this must be a thing. This must be a thing. Good job.

So we, we sent in or we had people send in. I'm like shaking from, because the adrenaline of like, I was like, it's just going to work. Got me fired up. We get scared me off.

I know. Actually, Bovee was fine now. That like, my boobed my, was boo okay? Oh, shit. Sorry,

Bui. Okay, I'm sorry, Bowie. You can bark back in him if you want. You can get me. You can get my ass. Someone submitted a hot take today that said, like, dogs are scary. Like, they could kill you with their claws if they wanted to. And I was like, I don't think you know what a dog is.

They said they jump up on you and they have claws. I was like, dogs don't have claws. They have nails. Yeah, booey might have, like, he needs to get him trimmed bad right now. He's not going to kill you. No, but never, Booey. Not booey. But a dog could.

With its teeth, like it could, like, mall you. Yeah. It's not going to, with its, they don't scratch your chest open. It's really sweet. Like, it's great that they don't do that. It is great. I guess they could. Yeah.

I've learned that, though, with boo. But humans could also do that. I travel with buoy a lot in airports and stuff like that. And, like, I know Bowie is so sweet. But no one else does. So, so I've noticed that when I'm walking through the airport, people are genuinely, they have dog phobias. Yeah.

And it's a very real thing and it's up to me to be aware of that. Like I need to keep him on a short leash. Even though I know he's not going to hurt anyone, like they don't know that. Yeah. I'm the same with Max's Max. I rescue, right, boo? Yep. So Max is two.

Got him like a year and a half ago. He's been with my pants for a little bit because I'm on tour right now. But he is a people person. Like right when I got him, he wasn't. but he's obsessed with any new person. Doesn't matter who they are. It doesn't matter if it's someone in a uniform, which, like, typically, like, they probably don't have the best experience with dogs.

So he goes up to every person, and it's the same thing. They're like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. And I'm like, please don't pepper spray him. Like, he just wants to lick your face. But it is, it's weird to think about, like, not everybody being obsessed with dogs. I'll put my face right up next to a dog's face that I've met. That's just stray. because that's how much I'm like

not even I'm assuming the best out of every single dog which is just like not it is funny though like Boil run up like wagging his tail to a stranger and I'm like it's okay he doesn't bite and it's like that's probably not the right thing to say

to someone like who's scared of dogs like you just shouldn't be be in that situation but it happens I was terrified of dogs when I was little and so my parents got a dog yeah yeah exposure therapy yeah exposure therapy Yep, Booie's done that to little kids

Really? Yeah, there's a, my friend I go to the lake house all the time and he His mom's afraid of Of dogs and the son's becoming Has that phobia too now So like, booie's the first dog that he actually likes Every time booey comes in the lake He gets excited

Yeah, booie's good job, booie A little service animal buoy This is a good This is like, oh my God, we're totally like a rescue animal podcast right now by the way Yeah Two rescues rescue my boy Plug the rescue. Yeah, yeah.

Max is from, and of course now I'm forgetting the name of the shelter, Lancaster Animal Shelter, and Lancaster too. Animal Shelter? Well, so I got him from my stand with my pack, but they rescued him from Lancaster. Okay, so Lancaster's an awesome shelter. It's obviously in Lancaster. Max was, like, on his last hours, and they were like, can someone come pick him up? And I drove to Lancaster.

It's pretty far out there. But they are so good at like they're volunteers there Rita Earl Blackwell. Do you know her? No, because I But I'm sure that's who I stand with my pack was with I think so too. It was the same deal. It was like, Bui wasn't eating. He was not doing well. So they were like if someone doesn't rescue him, we're gonna have to put him down. I stand with my pack was like no like we're gonna stay with it's Yeah. Yeah, they're so good and they really mobilize people because they're really good at using social media, which is cool. So Rita goes and volunteers and does profiles on all the dogs and takes them out like writes the descriptions and their personality and if they're good with kids other dogs what

environment they'd like thrive in max when i got him this was heartbreaking didn't want to come out of the gate he wanted to go back in and i was like what's going on and it was like 5 p.m. after i finished out all the paperwork and they were like well he hasn't eaten yet it's we can only feed them once a day because we don't have enough money for so if you can donate it's a good place to donate any shelter like that but i was like oh my gosh what was max's name of max oh you i just i just i just i I tried to change it. Yeah. You tried to change it.

It didn't work? Yeah. Didn't work. And I was like, oh, he's just dumb. What did you try to change it to? Rody. Oh, I like that. Yeah.

That was fun. But, and then I said Max, and he was like, he's so smart. Like, my parents, I'm biased, but like, my parents are like, it's bizarre, the stuff he does. What type of dog? Because I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. You got his, you got him.

I forget. His ancestor. Yeah. I forget the, he's a lot of stuff. He's a super. I can show you a picture of him if you. But that's how I feel about, like, I grew up with Australian Shepherds. They're very smart, but booey's a whole other level of smart.

That, like, I don't think I could have a little dopey retriever. Yeah. Because he's like, it's like, it's almost a human. He's like, I was about to say his eyes are human. Nice. Is he put that up fast? That's Max. Oh, my.

And that's one of the worst photos on me. Is that, that's Max? That's the same dog. That's the same dog. He's a man. He's got like a big block face. He's, he's, he's like, he's. He's a super mutt.

That's what they said in the DNA test. Yeah, that's like the worst thing when you get. It's like, I'm so excited to learn what my dog is. And they're like, oh, it's a super mutt. And you're like, no. What's funny is the cool part about all those DNA tests is that they find like cousins. Yeah. And it's like, oh, cool.

I'm never going to reach out, but it's cool to know that he has a cousin. Totally. Yeah, he's a family of his own. Yeah. Dogs do. I'm always kind of sad that I'll never know. I'll never see a picture. of Max as a puppy, you know, like I might have to, I might have to sue me. I might have to use

a, I just to like see what he would have look like. Chad Chivuette? Yeah. How old was Bowie when you rescued him? About one and he like hated, he hated me. Like I couldn't come near him. Like my first walk with him was, he was just running away from me the whole time. And it took like two, three weeks before he would like come near me. Then he hated everybody else. It was, it was a work in progress. How is he the way he is? He's so good. I have no idea. I wish it was like I was like, I wish.

It's just, I think, I think he was just scared. Now he feels comfortable with me and I've, I've taken him everywhere. So he's used to just, what's that called? Exposure therapy? Yeah. Yeah. He's got a lot of that socialize. What do you go to the jungle?

I have, I have one sitter shout out Avalon that has been saving him. Avon. But, yeah, my girlfriend, if she stays back, she can watch. but yeah that's otherwise he's with me wow that's so nice he loves it like if I grab my keys like he wants to go in my van

and you guys saw my van it's like the back's a bed it's a big dog bed at this point but he gets so excited it could be one in the morning and I grab my keys and he's like let's go that's funny oh enjoy more ways to save at Ralph's like low prices in every aisle and when you

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Seasite for details. That's precious. That's so sweet. I miss Max so much. I just saw it last week. Yeah, Max is a car dog too. doesn't want to be home by himself. So he's like, I'll just be in the car with it.

That's cool. Yeah, it's the best. Like, I can go to the grocery store. He never leaves a car, but he's still stuck. Yeah. He just wants to hang out. My dad will tell me now. He's like, I take him everywhere.

I was like, why is Max like a little bit chunk right now? My mom goes, ask your dad. Taking him to get water burger every day. He's like, he's like, I'm just giving him the patty, not the bread. And I was like, you're giving him a, like, a water burger patty. Like, you got to, like, stop. Because he has hit the, the. He has his father's stomach.

And that's as far as I'll go with that. That's as much as I'll say. You're in shape. I'm not saying I'm not. I'm saying like, God forbid I. I just want to like encourage you because you've said about 18 times today that he has his father's stomach weak stomach like I'll shake his band. Sorry.

I thought okay. Okay. Sorry. I feel horrible. Oh God. That poops on you. That's it. He tried to save you.

You got, you asked for the shit. Yeah, you wish it really said. I, okay, sorry, assuming. Well, that takes us too. Wait, I want to ask Dylan something really quickly before we do hot take. Yeah. I saw that you've been reading. Yes.

Recently. Did you read Akitar? Well, so I do audiobooks because I'm a terrible reader. That's fine. Yeah, Akatar I finished. Like all of them? Yeah, with audiobooks. I just crank.

Like all five? Yeah, I'll do them like when I'm working out. But trust me, Akatar, it was tough to finish. It was just the last one for me. Because it was like so smutty. Yes. Yes. So much.

I can't really like doing that on audio must have been like a really. Oh yeah. Like unique experience. That's like it's like. Yeah. Basically the last one. Oh. And it's always in like the weirdest time when it's an audio book.

It's like I just. It kind of comes out of nowhere too. Yeah. And like eating it alone. I like, I was going to a concert. My friends were meeting me and I was like pick me up at this restaurant. So I was like, oh, I'll order some like chicken wings or something. I'm eating chicken wings.

And it's just like the sexiest scene ever. And my friends are watching me through the window. I don't even know. And I'm just like listening to this hardcore sex scene. And I'm just like, like, they don't know, but I think they do. I'm like, I'm just like, it's so weird. Yeah. I remember reading that one on the plane.

And I was like, it literally feels wrong, like to be reading this. Yeah, that one, I've said it before. But that one got me because I just wanted more plot. I wanted more plot in that one. Every time a plot was starting, it was just like, oh, and then he literally. looked at me this way. My nipples got hard. It was just like, it just got,

you couldn't get anywhere with those. You really could not get anywhere with those two. You really couldn't. I was telling Brooke last week, I started this book in it. By the way, that book has been suggested since we started talking about it.

It's being suggested on the White Lotus adjacent book reads are like suggested reads now. The book that I'm reading, The Long Island Compromise? I'm like a big reader. I'm trying to read so that I can speak on a literary level with book and I like can't but I wish you would read like Akitar I try I bought the book for fourth wing what's your favorite fourth wing's way better he likes fourth wing I got the book and

it was so out of my league in terms of like this is a girl on a tree you try you maybe you should try fourth wing is it you don't have to read the other books to read fourth wing is it you don't have to read the other books to read fourth no fourth wing is completely separate from Akatar different off bug on my neck can you know I think it's you're going to bark your big yeah I lose hair There isn't a bug. No, but fourth wing is more like hunger gamesy. I love that you thought fourth wing was a fourth book of the wing series. What?

Of the wing. Of the wing. Eating wings. Reading fourth wing. Yeah. He was reading Akatar, which is different than, he's listening to Akhtar, which is different than fourth wing, which is the dragons getting horny when the people are having sex. The Becciality book.

I was telling you about that. No, it's not dragon and human. It's dragon on dragon and human on human simultaneously. I've heard throne of glass is really good though. Throne of glass. It's my favorite, I think. That's my next one. Like, it's like there's barely any sex.

I'm going through like a Brandon Sanderson one right now. It's just like fantasy fantasy fantasy. And they're so long. So it's like 40 hours of audiobook. And that's like one book. No, it's dry. Did you do Wheel of Time? Because that was another one.

No. There's like 10 books in Wheel of Time. And there's no romance in that either? I can't do it. I don't suggest it. I'm like a self-help book guy, Brooke hates self-hurt. I was that. I listen to so many self-help podcasts and I just dug myself into the ground with them. Oh, man, okay. That's probably the last kick I need to stop reading them. Because I don't actually end up helping myself at all after I read it. The way I put it to when I like finally stopped doing it was I was like, if you go to a library, there's a self-help section. It's small in the corner. And like, why am I?

when I look at a podcast, why I'm only tuning into this type of genre. Yeah. Like, why is what got me to have a breakthrough on why? Sarah J. Moss wrote Akitar and I'm like, oh,

this is way more fun than learning about. No, I don't know. Whoa. Scream it from the rooftop. I think it was probably like Red Rising was the first one that I got. Oh,

I need to read that one. Yeah, it's good. Really good. Did you read Hunger Games? Yeah, I did. The new one?

Oh, there's a new one out. Have it? Can I borrow it? I don't. I read it on my kindergarten. but it's Hamich's Hunger Games. Did they make a movie about that?

It's coming out. So there was another new one that was about President Snow and like his rise to power. And now the newest one is Hamish's Hunger Games. And it was so good. I cried from beginning to end. Out of sadness? Out of, yeah, out of sadness.

And she knows how to write like death. What's her name? Suzanne Collins. Yeah. In a like obviously death is sad regardless, but like she gets you. I do want to say as the original influencer, he thinks he's the first person that ever had the hunger games. Like I had I had a forced. We had that we were forced to read in school for AR points, accelerated reader points.

And I'm a judge the book by its cover person and it was shiny. And I picked it out of the thing and I was like, I'll read this book. I feel like they're very mad. The covers. They were met with a bit of shine. Okay. I picked, I did the same thing when I was in school.

I picked a book by its cover and it was the, do you remember like the cover is like a beaver with a sword? It was a whole series. Yep. Was it the Warriors? No. It's, um, oh my God,

I know what you're talking about. Is it the Caterbury tells or something? Oh, no, it's the, oh, what's that called? Oh, it's gonna be really, is it can we look up, beaver with a sword?

It's the whole series though. Oh, exactly. It's a whole world. It was like real. They were like people. Yeah, do like book series, animals. I know exactly what you're talking about. Red Wall?

Yeah, I think that's it. But in Red Wall's, is that the name of the whole series? It says from the cut. Yeah, Red Wall was one I read. And that's a whole series of books, I think. Children's fans. Maybe I lied completely to your face. I'm not familiar.

I do feel like I've read a book about a beaver with a sword, but I don't think it was Redwall. Because the visual isn't helping, but I must have. I don't think that's a beaver either, I have to say. I think that's a squirrel. I don't know regardless. Oh, I love that one. I think Red Wall might be the whole series, and there's different Redwall books. That is like a beaver holding a sword.

That was a cover. That was me in school. I was like, oh, man, I could read this book. Yeah. I could get behind this. I get to see myself How did he get that? What does the red say under Red Wall?

Where legends are made. Where legends are made 100%. Yep. That's my youth right there. That book made me what I am today. Wow. I'm going to add that to my good reads. Do you have a good reads?

No. Oh, you've got to get good reads. It's actually not fun unless all your friends are on it. Yeah. But it's like letterbox for books. Okay. I don't know what letterbox is. Okay.

It's like you just log the books you've read and the books you read. Oh, okay. Okay. And just like make sure. Yeah, I could do that. Because I'm so bad. And write reviews and stuff. I always forget the books I read too.

And everyone, like, like, what? Did you do the one with, like, Logan Nine Fingers? The first Law Series? Logan Nine Fingers? I think, I think, like, I cross over in a little smart. You're doing, like, fantasy, but I also do, like, some fantasy. I need romance or I can't read a book. Okay, okay.

So I didn't do Logan Nine Fingers. You should do Red Rising, though. Red Rising to quickly. So I used to write, and I was writing a book. And my friend was like, hey, you should read my buddy's book. It's named Pierce Brown. So he's like, what you're writing is really similar to it. So I'm like, sure, I'll like do his buddy a favor.

Yeah. I'll read his book. Start reading and I was like, this is so good. Was it out yet or did you? It was out, yeah. And I finished it in like two days. I call my buddy back. I'm like, dude, like this needs to be a movie.

This is incredible. Like, let's get this guy signed to an agency. He's like, oh, it was a New York Times bestseller. He's like, you don't, he doesn't need your help. So that's your hunger games. Yeah. Yeah. It's kind of a little more,

it's a Hunger Games with a little more masculine, like actual fighting death stuff where Hunger Games is a little more, but they're so similar to Hunger Games. I would say like if Hunger Games was written by a female and if Hunger Games was written by a male. That's the only difference, I'd say. Interesting.

I don't know if I've ever read a book by a man now that you mention it. Except for I guess like, The Bible. The Bible? I haven't read the Bible. Oh, duh. Sorry.

No, you always think that, Jews have the Bible too. Anyway, we don't have to get into that again. But should we do some hot takes? No, I have gifts for you guys. Oh, Connor. I was in Seattle this weekend and, well, I guess last weekend when this comes out. And just like found this random store.

I'm scared. No, don't be scared. This is for you. I hope it didn't break. Thank you so much. And this is for you. Wow, Connor. I already got mine.

It is at home. I think, are there two things in here? Yeah. It's a squirrel with a sword. Yeah, I wish. Oh, Connor, these are adorable. They're salt shakers, you guys. Oh, I like it.

Booie likes it too. Connor, that's so cute. Oh, my gosh. So I knew about Bowie, so I got you the matching dogs. That's so, oh, wow. This is actually going to match my kitchen. Really? Oh, my God.

Awesome. This is really perfect. I was going to get, I was looking for. I found the coolest shop. It was just salt shakers in Seattle. I love salt shakers. Matching porcelain salt shakers. Those are from Japan.

They're so cute. I actually really like it. And I think these are from Japan too. I really love, yeah. I spent an hour looking through salt shakers. I was just addicted to this store. I actually had to hold myself back because I had no room in my luggage. I'm going to give you my salt shakers and keep these because mine I got at an estate sale.

and they have your name all over them actually now that you mention it. They're corn. Corn? Corn salt shaker. Oh my God, perfect. I'm going to have two shakers. I got myself monkey salt shakers. One's like this and one's like this and one's salt, one's pepper. This is so fun. I think I probably

have those two because I'm the year of the monkey and my mom is like super into astrology so I think everything I had until I was like 12 was a monkey themed. That's cool. Like I love I think that's why I'm so drawn to White Lotus is because I love the animal side of everything.

I love little figurines too. That's why look at all of our knicknacks here. We're huge knick-knack people. I always love a good knick-knack. Well, I think we should do. We had people write in hot takes and then we really just hit it off and we blew through this episode

because you made it so easy. Thank you. But we should do some of these hot takes. Let's do it. I love hot takes. Wait, you have a hot take. Yeah. The cupcakes?

and R.E. cracks. Oh. Oh, yeah, yeah. The shower. Yeah. I got myself in some hot water, or I didn't, but yeah. Yeah.

You want to tell us? That was good. That was good. That was not lost on me just now. Yeah. I think it was very spur of the moment. And I was just asked what's something that I think is overrated or something on the spot.

I thought we were talking traders and stuff. I got asked that question. And I was just thinking about how much people shower. I didn't think it was that hot of a take. What did you say? What was the? I said that people shower too much. And like that goes into the fact that people are using shampoo every day.

And they're using soap on their shins. And it's like you don't need all that. No, I've never like washed my legs or anything like that. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Because the soap trickles. Yeah.

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. And then I think I, I, I think I, the way it was cut made it seem like I'd just don't shower. What would you say is the ideal amount of times to shower? Um, so I guess that's the thing is like, is it a full shower? Are you just rinsing off? Like sometimes right before bed, I like don't need a shower, but I also don't like being sweaty or like that little, when your legs will stick the other type thing. So I'll just go in, rinse off. I'm not like using soap and stuff.

Maybe a teeny bit, but I'm not doing a full shower right there. Are you the kind of person that like comes out of the ocean and you're like, I feel like I'd cleaned. I feel like. I feel Yeah, I'll rinse off after. Like, again, just water. I'm not soaping after. Whoa. Okay. I have to do like a full soap.

I don't even rinse off after. I love feeling tight and crackly. Yeah. And like I love putting. Those are the two perfect words to describe that. You know what I mean? It's like the best feeling ever. You're cooked a little bit from the sun.

Yeah. Salt water is the best my hair ever looks. I'm not even going to rinse it out because my hair is, I'm not going to have to put a hat on. It looks awesome. I feel awesome. You put on like a shirt and it like, oh, yeah. A sticks. Wow.

And then you put on. fresh pants or fresh shorts and then you're like like I feel like alive like that's like the most awake I feel and then you like I don't know you might wipe your face or like lick something you're like taste salty oh I look still salty I'm I love that feeling so much this actually one of our hot takes is that you don't need to shower after you get out of like your pool or the ocean or something pool is well if it's like chlorine pool is like I think in terms of in terms of clean like you're not going to get more clean than genuine burning off all of your body's natural oils with chlorine.

It is weird though. Like I used to hop in a pool and then later that day I would run. And like I could smell the chlorine coming out of my skin. Oh, so it's actually. It was going into your body. Yeah. When you're in a pool, like that chlorine is getting in there. Yeah.

Yeah. It can't be good for you. Yeah. Probably not good. So if you're going to shower after, it's not because you need to get cleaner. It's because you need to get the chlorine. You need to rinse that off. Yeah.

Okay. That makes more sense. So I'm pro that. Lake even, the lake that I grew up on, genuinely, I think, could kill somebody if it was... It actually, my friend almost lost her leg. It's a damned... It's a damned portion of the Mississippi River, or the San Jacinto River.

And it's very murky. And she had a wart. And we would tube a lot, we'd be on Jetskies a lot, and I guess her... This is so much. We're going to lose listeners. It's like from the stuff I've said today. Her wart rubbed off. And she had a little open wound, and she got staff infection, like, almost a lot.

your leg. So I would say shower after that lake. Like Lake Tahoe, I bet you couldn't feel more clean than jumping in Lake Tahoe. I was just about to say like one up from the that feeling of being in the ocean, being like a summer lake day, I could go a week without showering. Lake greater than ocean. Oh, you feel so good coming out of the lake. A day someone, this was a hot day too. A day on a lake on a boat is so much better than a day laying on the beach. In my opinion. I'm a lake guy. Yeah. I don't think I think I've ever been to a lake. I'm a lake person. I don't think I would love to go.

We have to go. Yeah, you got to go. Yeah. It's as good as it gets. Because I love the beach and just water. There's nothing better than Lake Tahoe. I genuinely think that like that should be put on the, where are the great things of the world?

How many is there 11? It is. It is. In the winter, it gets cold though. It does. You could ski there, though. How cool. That's amazing.

That's both worlds. Um. Oh, this is kind of related. Someone said, Sand in your sheets is delightful and keeps me in touch with nature. My girlfriend would argue that because I lived on the beach. Pro or against? She hated it.

And I would just track sand all in the house. That was... When I'm on vacation and they're saying in my bed, I'm like, I'm on vacation. This is awesome. I'm clean. The sand isn't dirty. It's not mud from your garden. But do you like the feeling of it?

I don't mind it because I'm like, I'm on vacation. And even when I lived down in Newport, I loved it because I'm like, yeah. walks on the beach just now and I'm clean I know I'm clean my feet aren't dirty you know there's just a little bit of sand a little bit of grain if nothing else you're exfoliating between the sheets that's true it's nice but the argument to that is like I tolerate it like I'm not the one if there's sand in my bed it's not like it's the end of the world for me but then you wash the sheets and you lay in bed and you're like oh my god yeah yeah should appreciate yeah so yeah maybe it's worth it to just suffer through

the sand for a bit so then it makes the fresh sheets feel that much better perspective to take that is a really good perspective i'm not like obsessed with sand in my sheets no yeah it's not it's not like that's a hot take yeah that's a hot i don't agree with that it's better i'm just drawn to sand as a whole like my mom doesn't come as no surprise my mom said i used to eat sand handfuls of it i think it tastes great it's not bad i'd argue sometimes i'm pro a little bit of sand in my peanut butter jelly on the sandwich that's horrible i like the crunch that like is sensory to me like i don't like that well yeah i could i when think about it too much I hate it it does also sand from around the world is so different too like yeah have you been like to louisiana or mississippi and felt their sand it's like brown sugar

it's it's like more dusty yeah like here it's broken down rock in california but there it's like you watch that's not the sand i want my sheets that's dirt yeah Miami was coarse that was the first thing I felt right before those people started drowning I was like oh this is some coarse sand you like were taking mental notes of the small thing I'm being very present right now before TMZ snaps small talk like on the swim back in sand is pretty coarse here i'm picturing i'm i'm i'm shh the sand is tough i i'm picturing you is david haselhoff from the sponge bob movie moving and he they're on his back yeah he's just moving like this his head's not even underwater but wasn't that glorious um okay this one i do agree with it's embarrassing to use an umbrella

I just don't like the idea of an umbrella. I think I'd rather be wet than use an umbrella. This is where my California really shines is like, I don't have an umbrella. I'd never have. I've never owned one, yeah. I don't even know where you would get an umbrella store. Exactly. So now that I've got booing and I like, I'd have to walk them every day, which was like,

that was one of the weirdest things getting used to is having to walk in the morning and just like, yeah. So when it rained for like two weeks in L.A., I'm like, all right, I'm just going to wait for it to stop raining. and I'm like keeping my eye out waiting for it to stop raining and then it wouldn't so I'm like all right here we go I'm barefoot and board shorts because I know I'm gonna get wet yeah so I'm just walking in the rain and board shorts and then like it just clicked is like that's what umbrellas are for I like the I like the barefoot and board that's what I did with Max so go out and people would be like oh no this guy is like it's super fun like there's a grass field and we were like running around and I can walk barefoot I've held an umbrella like a few times in my life I think and I'm like giving myself the ick and I don't know why. Then it's wet. It's like, okay, we could just knit like, I think I'm better than the rain. I don't know. Raincoat.

That's the answer to all this is a raincoat. But I don't have one of those either. That's an easy place to go though. It's a better direction to go than an umbrella. You go inside with an umbrella. What the hell? Now it's raining in my house. What the hell?

Yeah. I think that's the setup. Is a raincoat with a hood? Yeah. Bored shorts barefoot. Because then it's like all the water is draining out. you're still a little bit warmer. I like a raincoat.

But it does get mussy in there. You're going to want to jump in the chlorine before you put the coat on. We have a bunch of these, but I don't want to hold you too long. No, we, that was awesome. I think I don't think I have anything after this, do I? Can we read through a couple of these really quick?

I just want to make sure. Oh, yeah, no movie needs to be more than 100 minutes long. That's an hour and 40 minutes for my math freaks. Oh, that's tough Because some of the best movies of all time Were those long movies That they just let breathe Yeah

Like Deer Hunter, I think is three hours long But like the reason it's so good Is because it's just so slow moving and real And if Fourth Wing is a movie like that I'll need that to be like three plus hours Movies Yeah, because I hate when they break it in half No like Dune did that

And I read I just finished that book And then I was Do you like Dune? The book or the... Yeah, well, the movie. No, so I finished a book and then the movie happened and I was like, oh, this only brought us like halfway through the first book. And I was like, I don't like when they do that.

When they... Squid Games just did that to us. I don't know if you watched that, but it was like this second season was just half of the season. Uh-huh. Yeah, no, I don't like, I don't like that. Dune, I'm not Dune's audience, like, at all. It's crazy. The books were good.

I actually... I haven't seen the second movie. Apparently the second movie is so good Even for people who like I also don't I also don't I was like I was reading the Wikipedia in the theater And still couldn't follow no I was like where is Zendaya like I thought she's in this movie and then she's like hey and then she's gone I don't even think anyone talked in the first movie did they the worms maybe I watched it on the plane So I want to give it a chance of everybody loved the second one Oh everyone did love the second one first one on the plane I can't say it was amazing yeah

But I also agree with what they're saying because I'm very anxious in a movie theater. Yeah. And if it's maybe after the first hour, I'm going and standing by the exit and I'll watch the movie from there and I'll stretch. Oh, you start standing by the exit for longer than 10 minutes. I'm going to start making scenarios up in my head about you standing by the exit. And that's going to make me panic because I'm starting to look for exits, other exits. You know, I'm like playing where do we go? That guy's been standing a vertically in this pitch black movie theater for an hour. Where do we go?

I'm like, how high is it? Can I lift you up into that place where they're shooting the movie? I agree with that one unless it's a movie that I really like and want more of. So selfishly, yes and no. Ooh, this is a good one for you. Shrimp is bugs. Did you just say? Sounds like a bad song or something.

Shrimp is bugs? Bugs of the sea. Shrimp is bugs. Shrimp is bugs. Shrimp is bugs. Mmm. So I'll break it down for you. Is this a hot take?

Is this a bug? Is this yours? No, someone wrote this in. I'm serious, but I'm aligned because I, like, they're bugs. They're underwater. You can use it in a sentence. Shrimp is bugs because they have six legs and they live on the ground.

Yeah. So it's like, it's kind of like how lobsters are like the, the garbage cleaners of the sea. So then it's not, they're gross. A poop sack? Like, I'm not eating anything with a poop sack. No, you eat the poop sack. It's a vein poop sack. So it's fine.

Don't call me poop sack, Missy. Wait, what are you talking about? You brought poop up again. The line in the back of the shrimp. No, you don't eat the poop sack, right? I think some people do. Some people do, but I don't, I wouldn't do that. I didn't do that.

I meant to say, what I meant to say is that obviously I would not eat that. Eat the poop sack. Yes. But can you? Well, all right. So, all right, I've got some stories now. You just open my brain, poop, the bugs. Okay, so I lobster fish in, you should come with me.

I think you might enjoy it. But so, like, we'll catch lobsters in, like, the bay in Palace Bairdays and stuff like that. But I always think about how, like, humiliating it is to these lobsters. So, one, again, I don't like killing, but lobsters, you grab three and you eat them. It's very, like, sustainable, better than buying from the store. So we'll go out there. Once you catch them, the way you clean it and get the poop sack out is you have to break an antenna off. They have these long antennas and you stick it up the but hole.

Like an enema. Yeah. And then when you pull it out, it takes the whole poop track out. Okay. I just want to circle back to the fact that it's a bug, you know, at the end of the day. Yeah. It's a huge bug. Like it's like a dinosaur Jurassic Park bug.

Yeah. It just is wet. Yeah. Shrimp is bugs. No, it's shrimp is bugs. So that's what I was. I love shrimp I know you do

Last thing I'll say on that is that when I'm traveling I stay away from it Because I've seen so many people get sick from crawfish And stuff when they're traveling That like I will stay away from that type of dish When I'm traveling right that and that I'm aligned with you there I just choose to do that in every area of my life I avoid the bugs

But I do love a crawfish boil I'll say that I don't like the fact that they cook them alive In fact in college when I would We would be at these crawfish boils where it's like sausage, almost mispronounced sausage, sausage, corn, potatoes, and then crawfish, they dump it on a table.

And it was fun. It was like a dardy, it's like a college thing in Texas and Louisiana. And I would go to the live crawfish bag and I would put them all in my pockets. Oh, I would see. And I would run to the crick and I would release them. And then one day we got an email.

Please stop releasing Crawdads. They're an inviating. species and I was like oh no oh dear so I actually caused more harm

than good thinking I was saving the crawdad I don't know that I know what a crawdad like it looks like a lobster but it's really it's this big

yeah they're smaller suck it out and I just can't stand any part of the crawdad shrimp experience oh yeah

do they taste more like a shrimp or a lobster or nothing I haven't I haven't tasted it I know that people love them Okay.

Yeah. Yeah, I do. It looks just like a little lobster. That's a scorpion. Yeah. See, now you're seeing the bug thing that I'm seeing too. But actually, Izzy, what does a shrimp look like when it's just like swimming? Oh, they go backwards really fast.

Yeah. Oh, see, that is a bug. I didn't know that that's what. That's a shrimp. How does that morph into shrimp cocktail? Boiled. I'm definitely more comfortable with shrimp cocktail. That's a shrimp cocktail.

That's a shrimp cocktail. Well, that's a gembo frame. That looks like a shrimp cocktail. I don't know what the silver one is a bug. They're all bugs. Shrimp is bugs. Yeah, I don't like that either. I actually want to get a pet shrimp tank because they're really cute.

I follow this account that does like these livable, sustainable ecosystems, but like many, and you know how I'm obsessed with like many things. It's like this plant that produces so much oxygen that you don't even need to replace the water and it cleans the bowl you don't have any filtration system at all and then the Trump live in there and it's their little world I want to get that so bad get it have you seen what a sea horse looks like

like you know what a seahorse looks like yeah how big would you assume they are I love where your head's at like the size of my phone I know the I think I know the answer yeah super small really so weird I think of them like a starfish they get big I mean they get bigger but just I wish I had this for my oh that's a girl

Oh, that's a pretty big one. But I wish I had this for my brain. Like every time I can't think of a word, there's just a computer that shows me. It's really, it's really key for us here. Is he saves our asses. That's smaller than a shrimp. They're so cute.

Yeah. Not enough meat on them to eat those guys. I've never seen one in real life, though. I don't even know where they are. I love that the guy is just cupping him like that. Oh, you were going to say that the man gets pregnant? Yeah, I thought that's what you were going to say. Does the woman not get pregnant?

actually I don't think it's man and woman I think it's the male the male gets pregnant wait till Trump finds out about sea horses the male gets pregnant she's gonna ban him in the Gulf of America no more sea horse men you should do that for stand-up

yeah that was funny that's pretty good should we do one more yeah we'll call it okay I can't end on Gulf of America no you can't okay Oh yeah, you pick one

Oh, me? Yeah. Oh, God. You're asking me to read? Yeah, let's see. I do want to just say this one because I don't have, I don't know if I, this one girl wrote in and said, I don't believe makeup carries germs and most of mine is from lost and founds. So I just wanted to say that out loud.

Makeup? Or makeup, which, like, I know people clean their stuff and so there is germs. It's kind of like chapstick where you could just, if you're borrowing so much chapstick, you just kind of put the top layer on your hand. I guess it. You put it all over your face and stuff. I don't know. But they definitely, it does.

So I don't even think that's like a matter of like, if you believe it or not. It just does. You could swap out the brush. Like you don't need to use their brush. But let's say you found some makeup. Yeah. Got a new brush dusted out all their germs. Then it should be safe.

So you just take the antenna off and shove it up your ass. And then it's clean. Okay. Yeah. I mean, if your loss and bound makeup. makeup has germs. I don't know what to tell you. Unless you're cleaning it. It doesn't sound like you are.

Okay. Dylan, any of these really reaching out? They're pretty funny. Ryan Reynolds is the most bland-looking guy, but somehow is very, oh, every straight man's fantasy. Yeah. I'll ignore that one. Five nine guys is greater. Yeah. What do you think?

I mean, who put that in it? I would say they're normal. normally quicker. Like if we're playing tag or something, like I don't want to, how much tag do you play? I know, it's pretty fun. And if a five nine guy, they're probably pretty swift. When a five nine guy is on my team playing tag. They're nimble. Are you playing tag? What? Apparently. I wanted to set up a big game where we all had like a GoPro and played like the little kid version of tag. That's so fun. It'd be so fun. That would be fun. But I wouldn't be very fast. because I'm not 5'9.

I don't know anything about that. But I also got a pretty bad scar on my leg from tag. I ran into a planter pot. Oh, gee. I also have a skeel bites right now. Yeah, one of those. Playing tag. Oh my God.

Ran, ran too hard. Be careful. In your tag. Yeah, I retired that day. I haven't played since. Did you ever play stuck in the mud when you were little? Hell no. No?

Okay, never mind then. It's actually not relevant. Well, we can wrap. We can end on playing. I do like. that Irish goodbye is a rude. Okay. I love an Irish. I do too. Love it. If you know you're going to see him again soon, like you don't need, you don't need to do the whole. I'm never going to see you again. Yeah, this whole song and dance. And I also love that someone else wrote in and said, they're actually

completely morally sound. If you know you're going to go around and it's going to bring the vibes down for you to be like, I'm leaving. I don't want anyone to tell me to stay, you know, because then it's like, I don't want to do the, no, I'm going. Well, also, it's just like a, like someone fun is leaving. It's like, oh, wait, you're leaving. Like, should we leave? You know, it's like, yeah, you want them to stay in that moment of fun longer and not be affected by you leaving and then you want them to be like oh did they leave it's like let them figure it out right when they figure it out totally am so mr funny today that's good i'll see me in the right right spot um yeah we can go out we're thank you so much coming dillon i'll definitely come back if i'm in front yeah we were invited back

we would love that and And Bruy, sweet boy. Buoy, you come back too. He's right at home. You might have to stay. Where'd your toy go? Oh, Mimba ball. Well, Dylan, thank you so much.

We love you. That was so easy. Oh, my God. No, thank you guys. That was fun. It's like me with friends. Yeah. New friends.

Yeah. Let's do it. I would love you. Lady Ephron. Yes. And that too. Yep. We're actually really bad at ending episode.

Let's promo. Let's promo. Oh, yeah. Yeah. We'll toss it off. Yeah, I guess my YouTube channel, that would be fun. Yeah. Instagram's where I do most things.

That's where you keep up with my everyday adventures, but YouTube's the stuff I'm proud of. So go check that out. And I can't vouch for it enough. It is such a comfort show to have on. And I'm traveling a lot in hotels. You just pop it on. You get some gummy bears, which is what I did the last time. I just binge-watched.

It was awesome. I appreciate that. You should watch the Ephron family vacation. I love that one. Yeah. That was great. Well, thank you so much, dude. We appreciate you. Thank you. Thank you guys for listening. And we will see you. Bye.