Brooke and Connor Make A Podcast - What Are You Wearing?

Episode Date: April 30, 2026

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Do not be weird. That's not weird. I was wondering. What's that material? Can you not see? I can see you loud and clear. Actually, I'm wearing this sweatshirt that I got from TikTok shop that I really like. It is, what's the name of a sweatshirt that's like a zip up hoodie?

Is it just a zip up hoodie? Yeah. Okay, I'm wearing a zip up hoodie. I'm wearing a black tank from the gap. Ooh, sexy. Connor. Wait, what is that line from? What are you wearing?

Is that just from, like, phone sex? It's just like, yes. It's like the phone sex opener. There's, okay. But it's also like red carpet. I think like that's kind of why red carpets have like ventured from like, what are you wearing to like to tell me what story. Well, no, because they don't say what are you telling with your outfit.

They don't say what you're trying to ask me. First of all, I like where you've, you've spun this whole thing on its head and I like that about you. they're constantly spinning and you're turning things on their heads they ask who are you wearing on the on the carpet imagine i i call the phone sex hotline 18000 hot chicks and i go who are you wearing i love that i'm wearing a timeless piece from skims and it's not bunching out my crack it's completely oh that is very sexy oh i love that um i and i'm wearing gap jeans that are like low-rod and baggy, which is new for me.

Yeah. And it's also why I've zipped up my hoodie, like, over the piece of my body where my stomach meets below it. So what kind of story are you telling with your look today? I was going for, like, comfortable chic. Like, oh, I didn't think about this outfit at all. That's cool. Even though I did. I like that.

And I'm doing microbangs. Ooh, hashtag influenced. by Papa by you by Papa yeah yeah my Macrobangs my micro bangs were like completely it was it was crazy to see one individual person rallying behind me like I'm like get behind me let's let's storm there was one person it was like I'm DMS me and said like I was scared to comment because like everyone was very clearly like against the microbangs and I like we were we're having fun mean you yeah oh absolutely yeah but she came into my DMs and said I just, like, privately want to let you know, I think they look good. And I go, get your eyes checked. No, people were really coming for me. Like, you need to let him express himself. He looks amazing.

And, like, I'm sorry if I stifled that. I just, you always tell me to be really honest. Yeah. And that is just how I was feeling. But, like, if you like them, you like them. No, I'm not someone who's, if, if I look bad, I mean, we've already done this. Okay. Like, there was the episode where I wore my hair down for the whole episode.

And you guys were like, like, like, You didn't even acknowledge it. That's what I'm saying. Like I had private thoughts and I didn't say it and I didn't express them and then you got mad. Well, that hair was almost like I had been afflicted by something bigger than myself. And no one said a word and that made me a question our relationship. You know, like that's why to those listeners out there like that really upset Connor when I didn't when I didn't say anything. Oh, beyond.

No, I'm I'm cool to have a conversation about my body and the way I carry it. Yeah. I would want someone to step in if there was something that's sticking out, being like, are you sure this is what you want to be front? Normally I would not ever comment on anything anyone is doing with their hair or body. Privately, of course. I wouldn't even do it privately, usually. I would.

I, you have to do. But like, to me, your bangs are my Sherpa. Your bangs are my Sherpa. Oh. When you wouldn't love you on my shirt. Your bangs are my Sherpa. The purple timepiece? Yeah.

timeless. I know that that that had a that had an expiration that that jacket had a expiration did. So here we are. Oh wait. Sherpa reminds me of something crazy that someone gave me at my show in Durham, North Carolina last week. What?

Someone gave me a Merca. What's a Merca? I think it's a bush, a stick on bush for my for my, for my, uh, wait, something carpet, kitty carpet? It's called a kitty carpet. I don't think that's for you. Okay, but it can be, it can be trimmed to fun shapes. So I feel like I could make it work in my, in my shirt but area.

Did, have you like expressed wanting something like that? No, I think it was really just like free rein. They saw this and they felt like it called. I mean, if I had expressed outwardly about wanting Merkin, not Merca. Merkin Merkin If I had expressed wanting a Merkin

I would have been here I've never said I didn't want one So I guess it's kind of just like open And it says Boshed Brazilian Misbehaved Shave Ujj Unveiled Vajajay

Kiddy carpet Reusible downstairs toupee I was going to say It looks like a toupee I'm going to take it out of its package Take it out of its package Remember when everyone would say Vajajay and it was like the funniest thing in the world.

Yeah, I feel like Katie Perry came up with that. Whoa, it's, it's like large and in charge. That is like not a color that I've ever seen. And like that's not. Yeah. Hello. That's definitely decorative. Like that's not meant to look natural.

It's definitely a statement piece. Well, it can be trimmed. Yeah. Regardless of the shape and. color like or the shape and size like that color is like it's meant to be a statement piece it's very soft it feels like a yorky poo is it okay like if i was to describe the softness it truly feels like a like a shih Tzu puppy okay wow what a lovely murkin you have thank you maybe you could trim it into a soul pack you put this you put the sticky oh should i do it right

yeah not now maybe for bonus you could okay for bonus i'm going to put the murkin on my chin. Yeah. Like that Nickymanage song. You want to see Connor put the merkin on his chin. Maybe it's time to put this post you on your chin. Um, okay, cool. Well, so that came from there. What was I going to tell you? Oh, hmm. I made, I'm, I guess like, let me, let me get ahead of a bunch of stuff really quick. If you, unless you have something pertinent that's happened this morning that you're going to like forget or you want to get off right away. All yours. Okay. So I'm actively moving out. So. I guess to chat with you guys,

to chat Nuga really quick, I don't have a home after I leave on Friday. So the patience needed on my behalf for the coming weeks in case I am without home. Like we may be doing some like genuine remote, OG remote mic on my laptop podcasting. What if you came to L.A.

I'm going to be in L.A. on starting Sunday. Oh, just because you don't have home. well I have I have Netflix as a joke next week yes so I actually need to talk to you guys about it's on Wednesday girl maybe yeah anyways we'll cross that bridge but yeah so I'm looking for I'm obviously looking for an apartment and I just told you guys they have been touring my apartment just about every day which is awesome because they are like it is in shambles I'm like I'm moving out and I and this is just kind of kind of how I live they go there's so many rocks in the kitchen. I go, those are my rocks. Like, that's the rock area. Yeah.

Of my kitchen. Um, I found the perfect apartment last week. So basically in New York, there's only one app you can use basically, street easy to find an apartment. And like, even if you get like, if you have a friend that like works in the realtor space, they're sending you links to treat easy. It's like, I'm confused. But I got one that was genuinely my ideal place. And I was like, oh, I did it and I did this on my own. And I, it was in my budget. It was in my area. It was, it checked every single box, perfect little podcast studio in-house, not like a five-floor walk-up or like I'm walking up five flights of stairs every day, you know, perfect. I read the description because it was one of those things. You know when you find the perfect whatever and you,

you just like keep clicking the link and reading and about it and like clicking through the pictures and looking at the floor plan and just like writing your first name and then the apartment address is your last name in your diary. I get down to this bottom line that like I really figured it was about legalities and I hadn't read it yet. Note this listing is for the walk-in closet portion of the bedroom only, all caps, not the complete bedroom or apartment and not the king bed. No. So my perfect listing in my budget is someone's closet. Someone is looking for someone to live in their closet?

That party I hadn't even thought. Yeah, I hadn't even gotten there. I'm bummed about my dream apartment. Someone listed their closet. Okay. Yeah. And the walk-in closet is in the bedroom. So jail.

Jail would be good. I do want to like, now that you said that, maybe flag it but they're not hiding anything you know so interesting no I mean I guess they're just looking for a roommate closet mate it kind of seems like they're looking for

like something lower than a roommate someone to a sub I don't I don't even know if it was sexual did you ever watch that movie I told you too uh the one with like the gay BDSM one

the gay BDSM what is it Pillion no I didn't didn't watch it. You need to. You told me I wouldn't like it. But I want you to, I want your thoughts.

Maybe I'll watch it in L.A. when I'm there. Yeah, that's like something I really want to hear what you think. Thank you, Izzy. Izzy brought me my coffee. I did not have any this morning. So I'm going to take a little sippy. I hope you don't mind. Enjoy.

No, do it. Thank you. What is it? What is that? Macha. Oh. good. Let me put a straw in here. Go ahead. No, do whatever you have to do over there. I see you have a beverage as well. Yeah, I got a green juice. Nice. What's in it?

Well, it's pure greens with lemon and ginger, kale, spinach, cucumber, celery, zucchini, romaine. Which is funny because remain, no, we don't need to have a conversation about remain. No, we do, and I'll tell you why. Okay, tell me why we have. I was just going to say, Romaine lettuce will always remind me of when I went to Whole Foods and I said, hi, what aisle is the iceberg? They go, we don't sell iceberg. I go, oh, did I, for a second, I thought I was like being canceled because I thought that iceberg was like a word we didn't use anymore, one or like two, are we boycotting

iceberg? Like, is like, there's like a Titanic boycott happening? And I was like, oh, I would have known about that. Iceberg. And I go, um, why don't you have ice. and they go it doesn't have any nutritional value we don't sell it here which like who gives a fuck like it's not like it's bad for you and the point it's like you can put so many like things that are good for you around it yeah iceberg is a vehicle to move things from point a to point my mouth yeah the way

do you ever watch bake my melissa's muckbangs mook bangs mook bangs what is it i don't watch her muckbangs no but i i follow it's not i guess it's not even that it's just like her cooking and eating um so not a muck muck muck bang at all. But the way that she frames food, I always think about like if she or my mom, I would have like the healthiest relationship with food because she's so pro like carbs and like bread, pita, whatever as just like a vehicle for the nutrients. She's like, yeah, this is perfect. Don't even worry about it. Like this is good. You just like, because you need it to like get the nutrients in you. Like it's a pretty matter of fact. She's I really, yeah, I really like the way. that she eats and frames the eating experience and cooks.

But I'll tell you why we need to talk about remain. Happy Mother's Day, Bakes by Melissa. Happy Mother's Day to bake by Melissa and baked by Melissa only. But I have been doing so many podcasts recently that are that will come out later, but that are all like book related and awesome. Like I've had so much fun. and it's great to be able to talk about that. But like, you know what I can't talk about during those?

Romaine. Romaine. And just like when my head wanders, it's like I can't just say what popped in. Wow. So I've had, it's actually like this whole just like Phoebe Press experience, while amazing, has really kind of sparked or re-ignet the spark of my love for Roe and Connor make a podcast. I love that, bro. Wow. Yeah. That's so amazing. Yeah, I could see that being when you're doing press for, for to promote something. And it's not some like work like like when I do

press for like a tour if I'm a laundry tour. It is just like oh, he's fine. I want to come see him be fun. But like you're promoting your your work like your written work like that's totally different. No, it's pretty serious. Like I'm not being funny at all. No, it has it. You have a. You have a prompt, you know? Yeah, no. And it's, again, that's crazy. So fun and amazing. I love it.

And always a pleasure to talk about the book. It's different. Oh, wow. To rewire your brain. To rewire. Someone says something and you can't be like, oh my God. Like my college professor doesn't eat Romaine because she had a man that had E.

coli. She diarrhea. Yeah. It's just a shit like that. So it's like, I feel, I felt, I've been feeling really happy to be sitting in the Kylie Clarkson recently. Oh my guys. Well, we're lucky to have you. Yeah, thanks for having me. This family, this room. Yeah, and this family in this room. This ad placement is paid for by Bath and Body Works. The luxury sense and real benefits will take care of your

home's well-being so you can take care of yours. Rook. What? You know how I'm always saying the smell of your home kind of changes the whole vibe. It's like the, the feng shui. I don't know what feng shui is, but like the smell itself makes you feel. I just got complimented the other day because like people come in my house and they're like, you are like an adult in some ways. Like the music I always have on soft jazz and I always have a smell to my home and it's good, good smell. I totally agree, Connor, because if things smell good, it just feels like everything's a little bit more put together.

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Yes. My favorite has to be mahogany coconut. Really? Yeah. I have it in my hand. Well, actually, I put it in my hotel when I was visiting L.A. I had the flowers. I had the candle.

I'm moving in. It makes my face feel good. And my space, don't even give me sorry about my space. It makes my space feel good. Who? Makes your face feel good and your space feel even better. Face good. Can I be honest?

I like the mom. Mahogany one too, a lot. But my favorite is the sweet orange and agave. I knew you were going to say that. Yeah. And you know I'm a homebody. I love staying in my apartment. And so just like having that bright and fresh scent makes the

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time of year. New York has had people living here for so long that they have like problem solved a lot of things where I'm like pulling out my hair and I'm like, what am I going to do with my stuff? And all of the moving companies I've talked to, you're like, oh, well, just store it until you find your new apartment. Oh, that's perfect. So they have, like, storage facilities. Like a built-in storage and moving in one.

They move it right to the unit. And then when you find your place, they pull it all back out, put it back in the... That's awesome. Like, there's no... Yeah, yeah, it's so awesome. But the only thing I'm kind of worried about which, like, I watch all these ads that people do with, like, roadway moving and cupcake moving and oatly move...

I don't, all the movers and they're always like, yeah, I was there and I didn't lift a finger and I didn't do that. It does kind of seem like you do have to lift a finger. I did not lift a finger with Roadway. You didn't? No, to the point where it's uncomfortable. I'm not going to be here. Like you just watch.

Oh my God. You're like a, you're like the moving cuck. You're a total moving cuck. Wow. And I remember with Roadway, like they had a, like, I was just. like, I guess I'll like meet you at my new place. And then I just like waited there for a while because I like felt so uncomfortable watching them pack and silent. Do their thing.

Yeah. Them, they were great because they packed for me too. Like I literally there's no, I didn't do anything. There was no prep for moving. It was literally just like a four hour experience. It was amazing. And the only thing that I really did was unpack. I just like, I look around my apartment and I'm like, where are they going to put my chotchkes?

You know? Yeah. But like you do have to, you do have to let go and let God with moving, especially with the movers. Like these boys were built for that. Boys and girls, maybe. You know that episode of Nathan for you where they framed the like movers as like a workout? I didn't see that.

And so you got people that actually paid to move you because it was their workout class. Couldn't be more brilliant. Yeah. He's so brilliant. I wonder what he's, what he's working on. He was on Raya recently. Nice.

You know that? I mean, yeah, he's always there. He's there. There's, like, I would say, like, there, my three of my top five have, are on Raya. You're big three? And I can't get on.

And I'm making it worse all the time by just screaming about it. But I don't want to be on Raya. Like, can you imagine? Well, I obviously do so badly. but like can you imagine like dating app dates are anxiety inducing enough imagine like not i wouldn't match with them anyway probably but like not because i don't think they would like me back but like like imagine like setting up a date with like Nathan fielder and like knowing you're like showing up to like a seated dinner with Nathan fielder like I'd much rather run into him in the wild

than like show up for an intentional seated dinner like I wouldn't sleep for. weeks. That would be a tough dynamic, Brooke. I do want to say, like, although it seems like so amazing, it would be like really not fun, I don't think. Like, I just want to like. Do a seated dinner with Nathan? I just want to like, on a romantic level, like, we've matched and I don't think that would be like you're, you would really want to like go on a date with someone you're a massive fan? No, that's what I'm saying. Oh. Well, then just you wouldn't, then you just don't match with it. I would want to meet them in the wild. Yeah, the foresight. Can you imagine what am I going to do?

I'm not going to swipe left. But then obviously like the swiping right and then having them like confirmed to not match back with you. How horrible. Like it's I love sitting in this like ignorance is bliss of like, hey, they'd like me if they just got to know me. But like having that like firm confirmation of like no, it would be too much. And like I think it's actually a blessing. I've not been allowed on to Raya. Thank you, Raya.

Thank you the Raya. Thank you for the blessing in disguise, Raya. Yeah. Yeah. It's all going to be okay. I was sitting. I last night did a cool. It was just really nice out and I was going home from the gym.

Love my gym still, by the way. That's awesome. It's completely all old people at the times that I go. And it's like me and it's like me and all my old people. It's so, I mean, anyways, yesterday. I had my first, like, I'm in the gym and I'm about to pass out moment. And fully, I was playing it off so much. And I'm really pushing myself and I'm like full blown. Like there is, the room is spinning around my head like a cartoon. And I was like, oh, God, let's do an, I think we go

up and wait probably a little bit more. And I was doing the hump machine. You know what I'm talking about? No. So many of these things are like actually like, like these machines, like these machines are actually completely for like a humiliation ritual. I put a belt, you put a belt, you strap your waist and belt wise to the hump machine.

Oh, like you're humping the air. I'm humping the air. No, no, no, is he, is he?

It's not even that kind of hump machine. I was upside down hump machine. So every time I would do it, by the way, it makes clanking sounds like you're on a work, like a construction site. Like I don't, it felt like the machine

wasn't finished being put together. And then as soon as I, I was like, loud. He goes, yeah, we just got this. I'm like, oh, my God, they put it together wrong. Like, the hump machine's about to fall apart and I'm going to be, I'm going to die on the hump machine. So I'm kind of humping the air. And every time I am dick up, face down, like, then it makes that loud noise. So everyone's looking in my direction. I'm completely inverted and my pelvis is like facing north. And it was a trainer. Are you doing this also low? No, that was with a trainer. I have a trainer.

Wow. Yeah, he's amazing. I guess what? Because it's a personal thing, I'm not going to say his name. And I'm, you know. Have you ever said anyone's names before? Yeah, Ray from Framebridge, who is like actively, next time you're in New York, he's going to come on. So just like, Ray, if you're listening, which I think that, I think that you might be.

Based on our conversation. He has, like, he has some stories to share with us. Like he was really keen to come on. I would love to have Ray. He had, he gave me some, some peaks into, like, some of the stories he has to tell. And I was like, I don't even want, like, it was great. Like, the guy's been around the block. I think that that's our, like, missing secret sauce that we've not activated.

Yeah. Is random guests. Like, I think, like, sometimes we'll have, like, a guest that, like, works, like, Dill. You know? But other times it's hard because, like, we have such a specific dynamic. And I think that that dynamic would really work with randoms. I completely agree. It's like there must be some magic in that old silk hut they found.

In that what? In that old silk hat they found. That old silk cap? That old silk hat they found. That old silk hat? Yeah. I don't get it. Well, because when they place it on his head, he began to dance around.

Ray has a silk hat In many ways, yes Okay Oh, you're Jewish Oh my God, you're Jewish That's Frosty the Snowman, it's a song Oh, no, I know Frosty I guess I don't know the lyrics super well

Okay, well it's There must have been some magic In that old silk hat they found Okay, I didn't know about the silk cap I just knew about the very shiny nose Or had a very It was a tiny nose Frosty the snowman

Had a very What? What did he have? Very Hmm It's shiny nose With a Catsy cap

And a button nose Button nose Frosty the snowman Had a very Very special boy Is this like that episode Of the office Where Andy's trying to get that jingle

Give me a break Give me a break wait frosty the snowman had a very jolly happy soul no jolly jolly happy soul oh my god frosty the snowman had a very jolly happy soul no i didn't realize he had a soul had a very he was a very jolly jolly happy frosty the snowman was a very happy jolly soul it's not how it goes it was a jolly happy soul frosty the snowman was a jolly happy soul i don't agree that that's how it went I don't agree. With corn cob pipe.

With corn cob pipe. These can't be the lyric. Hello. I have corn cob pipe. Hi, I have corn cob pipe. I have buttoned those. I have two eyes. They're made out of coal.

They sing I'm a fairy tell. I'm made out of snow. But I'm a very jolly happy school. Is he Russian? I don't know. That was like a new one for me. Okay. I guess the only lyrics I knew genuinely were there must have been some magic

and that old silk cap they found for when they placed it on his head he began to dance around. Is the end of this, is the end of the song he melts? To me, the only lyrics I knew were he had a very shiny nose and those weren't the lyrics.

Heart the Seasin' Snowman had to hurry on his way but he waved goodbye saying don't you cry. I'll be back again someday. How come everything is like inherently very religious? Are you saying Frosty's Jesus? It did feel that way

because, I mean, if he's coming back, he's reincarnated or not, well maybe he's reincarnated. I think they're just going to remake him when there's snow again. But he had a soul. These children watched around as he died. Tim, I'm sorry, would you mind Googling is Frosty a metaphor for Jesus? Thanks. Because it always comes back to this. That was not the original intent of the creators, but many interpret Frosty the Snowman as a secular metaphor allegory for Jesus Christ. Drawing parallels to his life, his death, and the resurrection. Miraculous birth. Holy Spirit

magic reincarnation i got it hi frosty's jesus hi come back some day that means that all those kids are like paunches pilot and like all of his disciples that betrayed him bye good luck with the son frosty i've never heard of paunches pilot um i believe he betrayed jesus alert not judas jesus yeah what was Pontchus. Good job, Brooke. Thank you. I love when, I love when Brooke goes Christian on my ass. He was the governor. Oh. Yeah. He following his brutal suppression of a Samaritan uprising. Oh, wait, what? I don't know. Like, I've never heard of this guy. Okay, he did something bad. Yeah. Can we type in why was by Jesus? Oh, he was the crucifier. Eish, yeah, that's not good.

Yeah. Okay. Well, good to, I'm glad to cover. Wait, do you know Judas's last name? I thought they weren't doing last name. I thought Judas was like Cher. But I'm seeing now that he has the last name. Iscariot?

That's a good name. Not a modern surname, but an epithet likely meaning man of Kiriath, which distinguish him from other. like Judas named Judas other theories suggest it means liar or derives from dagger Wilders though man of Kyriath is most widely so it's just like the town he was from Judas of blank right I get that brook of brook of mainline I love that yeah um thank God for this podcast like how to why are we we talking about Judas of frosty oh because of Frosty Why were we talking about Frosty?

Because you started singing about a silk cap. Because. Yeah. Well, what are we going to do? I do. I have something I like pretty, I do need to talk about. Do it. And I would say like from this point on in the episode, if you have like really strong negative

feelings about Michael Jackson, I would end the episode. I would not listen to the rest of this episode because I saw Michael. Yeah. In theater? In theater. I saw it in theater. And it has led me to, I can't remember the last time I have done a dive like this. I have watched every single Michael Jackson film, documentary, TikTok, anything that has ever been made.

I feel, I just, I feel really, really strongly about his mistreatment. okay this I mean first of all go see the movie actually didn't like I wasn't obsessed with the movie in the way that you would think based off of the spiral that I've gone why are you plugging your nose I wasn't it was it's a day I was dancing oh okay no go ahead sorry um the movie but you didn't feel strongly before you no okay great question before I had always loved Michael's music but was obviously just like very confused because like like obviously a lot of different people are saying a lot of different things and clearly there was a disturbance there like he wasn't well and everything just really confused me and I kind of just like never really looked into it too much you know um but of course love the music and kind of I would say I previously had was inclined to believe the negative things people were saying right um but you know after the movie you kind of see how he grew up and how deeply he was abused and and the movie couldn't touch on much just for like legal reasons so for that reason I did feel

like it was missing like some soul and like a big piece of the story but it was good and like the performances were amazing. Jafar was like the only person that I think could play him, his nephew. Yeah, that's pretty cool to do that. But the politics are so interesting because he's Jermaine Jackson's son. And it is my understanding from all of the research that I've been doing that like Jermaine and Michael like they were not on great terms. Right. So it's very interesting. There's a lot of like family politics involved. Some of the Jackson fan members were like, I do not fuck with this movie at all and then some including like his sons were like on set and producing so it's interesting i'm confused like this all comes back down to like i don't understand what an estate is

is an estate made up i would i would assume like the estate is made up of the family of because but that's just my literal sense of like what an estate is like a large home you know where everyone lives and maybe the kin of the whoever this is, that would be your estate. But it's an estate is made up of like a team of lawyers and like professionals, right? Right. So, so they're ultimately deciding like, and that's, there's so much money in this that like, I don't think it ends up being like this one was, this, this, this uncle or this, this cousin or this kid was closer to Michael.

And so they are making an executive decisions. I think this is so big that like these professionals are making these decisions on like a corporation level. I truly do not know how an estate works by any like at all and I can't even like pretend to say like I can't even try to have a conversation pretending that I do like it is so beyond me like I really don't get it can we look up because that's who called the shots for this it's been a long time coming for this movie and like it wasn't easy even casting it okay an estate is the total sum of all property assets and liabilities including bank accounts real estate vehicles and personal belongings that's owned by. a person at the time of their death that acts as legal entity holding these assets, which are then managed, tax, and distributed by an executor.

So their estate is actually inanimate. So the inanimate piece is the executor. And the executor is assigned pre-death, I believe. By Michael, right?

Yeah. Surely. But, like, no one's ever happy. You know? like I'm sure like not one of Michael's family members are satisfied for better or for worse like I don't know but you know it's never like oh yeah this is exactly what I want yeah um I don't know how they call shots at all to be honest I don't need and like this is the kind of thing I'm saying like we should have a lawyer on the podcast that like we don't know to ask these questions too like we don't need to be having like random people with followers like we need to be like we need to be having like random people with followers like we need to a lawyer. Wow, I wonder if I'm trying to think of it. I follow some lawyers on TikTok, but like there's an offline like, let's got a lawyer and then another episode I think we should do like scientists and stuff like that. Brooke, let's have Kim Kardashian. Did she pass the bar? Oh, let's just have Kim. Not yet. Oh. Not yet. When she passes the bar, let's get Kim Kardashian

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Shop everyday cotton and all of my favorite bras and underwear at skims.com. After you place your order, be sure to let them know we sent you. Select podcast in the survey and be sure to select our show in the drop-down many that follows. Yeah, anyway, it was really good. Jafar like was the only person that I think could play Michael. I think he did him justice. He was amazing. There was a like just like a little bit of something missing for me like a darkness or depth or something that they couldn't go into. But like it was it was good. Prompted this spiral. And I just, moral of the story is that the guy just had his

childhood stolen from him. And that was really kind of what he was trying to do. for the rest of his life was like, get that. He was all, he was kind of stuck in that spot. Like, he really was like a big kid. And that's kind of how everything hit the fan in a way. That, yeah. Like he was like stunted kind of in a very heartbreaking way. Yeah, like I don't know enough about the thing.

I just, I know hearsay as well. I think we like kind of went into this a while back and we, I think when the movie announced it, it was a very heartbreaking. going to come out. We kind of did like a very, like, isn't he bad? Well, we did a shallow down. Yeah, we did a Michael Phelps, Tiger Woods style dive into like who Michael Jackson was. And then McCauley Culkin, when the movie was released, remember it came out and was like, this was my friend, you know, like nothing weird happened. I spent a lot of time with him. I didn't have a lot of friends in the industry. And this guy took me under his wing and showed me

a good time and what a kid should have because he lacked that. So he wanted to make sure that these like child stars were able to have that. That was what I got out of the McCauley Culkin thing. I mean, again, it could be wrong. Can I ask a genuine question, earnest question for my heart? Yes, and I can try and answer it. Like, obviously they didn't in the movie touch on that. It's obviously for legal reasons.

They did not get to any of the child abuse charges now. Have we, have there been like victims that have spoken out and been like I was? like how yeah oh okay that was finding neverland the document or leaving neverland escaping neverland there was some one of the neverland documentaries was like people coming forward and being like yes i was abused but it's tough because it was all after his death and he there was no he had a trial before and was acquitted of all charges there was a big FBI investigation no one found anything and then after his death, a lot of people came forward. And then it was, you know, it's all, it's tough because it's like you don't want to like

negate someone's claims and experiences, but also like he's not here to defend himself. He's been acquitted. I don't know. It's just a lot of hearsay. And so all I can do is go off of all of the media that I've consumed, which tells me Michael was just a kid truly. Yeah. The movie was good though.

Was it fun? The movie fun for you? Yeah. No, the music, that's the thing. Like, the music and the performances were incredible. I was dancing. I got a little bit bored at the end because I think I just felt like it was leading up to something like big and soul crushing and it never got there. It was kind of like a little bit of an edging experience.

Yeah. I feel like all of those movies that like Rocket Man and Bohemian Rhapsody were missing like one big piece. And the big piece that was missing were like things that would open a can of worms that are hard to shut. Yes. Yes. But I think those two movies went a little bit deeper than this one did. Yeah. Which is my critique, but also like what can you do when there's all the lawyers?

Anyway, I would go see it. Like I'm only consuming Michael stuff now. I have a few documentaries left on the docket. His best friends growing up were a llama and a chimp. He had a giraffe. Like he literally was like just searching for like a connection and friendship and his childhood. And like that's that's what he had.

His dad, devil like incarnate worst guy that I have had the displeasure. of meeting. Was it similar to Whitney or Amy Winehouse? Was it what? Similar to Amy Winehouse situation. I actually like shockingly don't know too much about Amy. Oh, my. My dopple.

But I don't know, but he was played by Coleman Domingo who I like adore. Yeah. And now I can't look at the guy. Oh no. He acted. Who good of an actor. He played the part too well. I cannot look at him.

Like even like his interviews and like him on the red carpet, I like, I like, have to scroll. Wow, that's crazy. Yeah, crazy. Good job, Coleman. Yeah. Okay, well, interesting. I don't, I don't know if I,

I don't know if I'll go see it. Well, do you know about the Pepsi commercial where his hair lit on fire? No. It was really horrifying. He was basically his dad forced him into like, his dad was trying to just milk him for all that he was worth. And that was the Jackson 5.

And so when Michael was like going on his own journey and doing his own stuff. His dad was like, nope, you're going to do another Jackson 5 tour. And like he really didn't want to, but like he did because he felt like he'd be letting the family down. And so when they were practicing, they were doing something for Pepsi and something exploded and his hair lit on fire. And he got like really horrible second and third degree burns and was like rushed at the

hospital and like. No way. Oh, yeah. Like his hair never grew back. Like that's like why he had a lot of. problems with his hair. And he donated the entire, all of the money he got in the lawsuit back to the burn unit. Like he was always trying to just like help the people that needed it.

Helped him. Wow. Yeah. Gorgeous. It like wasn't, I mean, it wasn't even like a thought. He was like, any money we get from this, it's going back to this unit. Pepsi can't catch a break with its commercials. they? Well, this was the original, like, Kendall Jenner commercial. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. I can't think of, like, a Pepsi when.

I don't know. Yeah, I don't like, people are saying that Pepsi's going to lose so much stock after this movie. Ooh. Yeah. Which, like, I, yeah, I get that. Just care. Let's just on set. Yeah, and like, they just, like, didn't handle the situation. Like, why is Michael the one? Like, giving the money back. to the to the burn you know like Pepsi should have done something with the money from the commercial or like and literally something um well yeah I know well it was a different I mean it was a different time where like now if that ever happened like you are forced to do that because of the power of the people on online you know like that would have been the initial thing like right make our i PR was very it wasn't really existed as much back then was it no I'm also so interested in like the journey he went on with his appearance and confidence because that is what his dad did to him like that was his dad's form of abuse in addition to physical abuse he was like you're so

ugly and like that's why michael started getting nose jobs wow yeah it's all so crazy jinkies jinkies oh my god yep it's it is my r e it is my r e Roman Empire. Like, I'll be here for a pretty long time. Okay. Well, nice. It's fun to have something to deep dive into. I will be honest.

And there's so much. Yeah. You know, my mom genuinely, if you talked to it, if we called her right now, she actually called her this morning and she didn't answer or call me back, which worries me. She was convinced fully with her chest as a teenager. She was marrying Michael Jackson and you couldn't still today. like she she fully is like that was my first love and that's still my like people don't talk about how much of a heartthrob he was and how deeply women felt for him can i say something like

towards the end when he was kind of like i was i just saw that like big like jackson five to like present day like when you 2009 it is like shock obviously that was like like there was a lot that caused that but like my mom was attracted to 2009 michael just because it was michael's i understand completely now just like i can't it's hard for me to wrap no i understand completely now and also now that you know like it's it's it's like he was trying like he wasn't like it wasn't intentional really Like he was trying to correct like the first like three nose jobs like yeah. Yeah.

Like he was trying. He was he had a complex about his nose. But and then it was like a lot of corrective surgery because he fucked it up. And so that's what happened there. Like he wasn't trying to like do all of that with his nose. And then the skin he had, I don't know how to say it. Fitzhilojo, Fideligo, Fideligo. Fideligo.

Fideligo. And yeah, he was just like trying to even out his his skin tone. and it leads too close to the sun. But now that I feel like I know Michael so well from his youth, which I imagine your mom did, like I see him in 2009, Michael. Yeah. Whereas I think if you're like not familiar with his journey,

those look like two separate people. Yeah. But now that I see younger Michael in 2009, Michael, I'm like, yeah, that's still Michael. Yeah. Oh, that's beautiful. Yeah. So, and his voice, last thing I'll say,

probably not though um that was not his real voice he was just trying to protect his vocal cords so he he spoke in that really like high-pitched register to protect his vocal cords but that was not his real voice and sometimes in interviews you can hear him slip into his real voice and it's very jarring because it's deep oh that's interesting i didn't know that let me read you a letter that he wrote to his driver because basically his dad was just like so abusive that that's that he had these really strong paternal connections with both his security guard and his driver, who to this day will ride for him, like, no matter what.

They're like Michael is our son and the most amazing man. Sorry, I actually, so I sent this note to every single person in my family in a group chat. So I'm just looking for that group chat. Because obviously, I've been FaceTiming everyone I know just to talk. because my grandparents were around, you know, around when he was around. And I'm like, what was your experience like with Michael, et cetera?

You were asking them? I asked every person in my family older than like 50. So, yeah. Talk to Susu. One of the biggest Michael fans I know. Oh. This is what Michael, this is a letter Michael wrote to his driver. His driver?

Yes. Bill. It's been a long road. We've traveled throughout the year. concerts, tours, meetings, dignitaries, kings and queens of countries, touring around the world twice, making people happy through the gift and love of music. I'm coming of age now and nearly realize the importance of true love. Joseph, that's his dad. And his dad was like, call me Joseph. Which is why Michael was so insistent on his kids calling him daddy.

Joseph never even had time for me. He only saw me as a way for him to make money. And as you know, mother was a perfect mother, but I never was with her. My childhood was on stage away from mother. What I'm simply trying to say is thank you for being a father. I don't know what I would have, what would have happened to me if you were not around.

I love you, MJ. That stays with you. That stays with you. How is his driver today? What is his driver doing? I don't know the driver. I don't know the driver as well as I do his security guard. Bill.

No, Bill is the driver. Security guard was in the movie and they have a really close connection. Were they like well taken care of? Oh, yes. Oh, absolutely. Posthumously? I would like to think so, but I don't know what the estate is up to. And I think because Michael died so unexpectedly, like I don't know how much his affairs were in order.

Probably, that's probably you prepare if you're someone like Michael Jackson. Yeah, I don't know who the executor is. We should have him on the pod. We need to have Michael Jackson's executor. I don't imagine he had one executor. That'd be like genuinely being the CFO of a significantly large country that, like, is relevant indefinitely. There's also all these. It's one?

It's one person. Oh, it's John. It's John. I know John. He was played by Miles Teller in the first. film. He's a good guy. He's a good guy. And he had Michael's best interest at heart. John Bronca and John McLean. I don't know if I know John McLean, but I do know John Bronco well. So they've been Probaters at the Probate Estate and the Trustees of Michael Jackson Family Trust. Jeez, that's crazy.

As of 2025 to 2026, the executives have faced scrutiny from beneficiary, Paris, Jackson, regarding high legal fees and management decisions with the executors arguing their actions have been in the best interest of these. state. It's hard to, yeah. These states' assets are designed to benefit Michael Jackson's mother, Catherine, and his three children, Prince, Paris. And is it Biggie or Beggy? BG? That formerly blanket? Wait, where's, oh, I was going to say, where's blanket? Okay. I see. Okay, cool. Well, interesting. Well, I'm sure I'm not going to see it. I don't think. Why? I don't know, maybe. Maybe when it comes out on my TV.

Okay. Anyway, that's that. My favorite song, I would like to watch the thriller music video in the bonus, if you don't mind. No, let's do it. That'd be lovely. He really was the first to do it like that. That's what I'll say about that. Do you want to, in like probably 2000, I would say maybe 2009, all of the moms in my neighborhood dressed up like zombies and they did the thriller dance.

And it was like really funny. They like choreographed it and they did it in a parking lot. there was also a part of the movie I didn't understand about Michael kind of uniting the bloods and the crypts and like ending that which I was like wait what did you know that no me neither still a little bit fuzzy for me he had them both on set for what what song was it beat it he was kind of having them you know join forces I'm not sure how that ended. It was a random part of the movie that was a question mark for me. Let's see. Michael Jackson cast 80 members of the Los Angeles Crips and Bloods for the music video beat it in hopes a foster piece between them. Yeah, it's true.

But I don't know if it worked. It didn't. Maybe that day. They had peace in that moment, which is nice. Wow. Well, I'm going to have trouble moving forward from this because nothing is going to be as utmost, upmo, upmo important.

It's going to really just sound really stupid. No, that's fine. Let's end with something stupid. Of what I say. I don't like, I don't want to be the next, I don't want to say the next thing.

Try. Maybe I go into something like stupidest thing that's on my list of things to talk about. Start with the most stupid. Okay. It's stupid to many, but to me, I like it. They just released 6-7-shaped chicken nuggets. And when you say, what does 6-7-shaped? It's 6s and 7s.

And I just want to say, like, if anyone has, like, a qualm with the 6-7 nuggets, need I remind you and need I raise you, Shrek, green, and purple ketchup, which I had to have in the home. and my parents gladly bought for me. Yeah. The kids yearn for, like, novelty, you know? You'll never catch me upset about 6-7 because, like, it makes people happy.

It does. It makes people happy. It's so harmless. Something harmless that brings joy like this. And by the way, I fuck with Purdue Nuggets. I was going to say Purdue making these, like, that's so 6-7. That is so 6-7. And, like, those smears so good because, like,

they're so good right-up. out of the fridge. Like, no oven necessary to me. Yeah, right out of the freezer. Well, I like the refrigerated ones. I like to put them in my ice water and make it hint of, hint of six, seven nugget. Nice. Hint of chicken.

Did you get the Shrek ketchup? No, I don't remember the Shrek ketchup. Oh, we got to pull up the Shrek ketchup. Computer, show me Shrek ketchup. It was so good. was green and purple. I knew it. Easy squirt. How did I not have that? So the one, the one flavor is Shrek, and I think the other flavor was Dragon, the Dragon White. Yeah. And then they had the red flavor, and it was Fiona, because she had, she has, and then I started thinking when the red was Fiona that

maybe it's like, like Fiona bleeds red because she's a human. Shrek bleeds green because he's a, he's a, he's a goblin. I feel like if anything, Fiona would have bled green. Like maybe her heart is green. I think she bleeds green. Oh, did Shrek ketchup have a recall? Oh, I see what you're seeing. Yeah. Well, maybe the flavor described as blast and green, obviously, like, that I was blasting all over my eggs and stuff in the morning.

It's funny, could you imagine RFK Jr. You're talking about Blastin Green Shrek ketchup? Yes, honestly. That's what I was, I was raised on this. So the autism that he says is caused by Tylenol was definitely probably caused by Blastened Green, EC Squirt Shrek flavored ketchup.

I think it's also possible that Michael Jackson was on the spectrum. That's totally possible. This morning I sent you that Snapchat that I used my stove top today just as like saying goodbye to it as I move out and I made this delicious meal and then there was a ton of mold in my cheese.

That sucked because besides the mold that looked so good. I ate it. Did you scrape the mold off? I got as much of it as I could. Yeah. But then I convinced myself. It was concentrated in a one area.

I convinced myself, any dairy that has mold in it, like, I'm obviously not going to drink like chunk chunky milk, but like isn't mold like really a part of dairy in a big way or no? No. No.

Made that up? You're talking about like, oh wait, you're talking about cheese. Isn't cheese mold? I think cheese is moldy milk. No, yogurt is moldy. I don't know. No, yogurt's not moldy.

Cheese is moldy. Cheese is edible mold. Like, that's why like cheese is gross. Unless it's mozzarella or barata or cheddar when it's melted. Cheese? Cheese is mold.

And parmesan on pasta. Shrimps is bugs. Men with vapes are ladies. What? Thank you. Is he? Always there for me. What's that from? Cheese is mold,

shrimpses, bugs, men with vapes, ladies. What is men with vapes, ladies from? Ladies, ladies, please. I'm trying to work, tight shift. Nice. Thanks. Did you see my shirt? Yes, I keep meaning, like, you keep start talking,

and then I'm like, oh, Connor's shirt is amazing. Let me bring it up, and then I forget by the time you're done. I love that. Did someone give that to you at a show? No, I bought it myself. Is it, was it just like online? I got an ad, a targeted ad for a shirt that says let Papa cook. That's amazing. And you know what company it's from?

No. The Life is Good Company. I love Life is Good. Their whole company is like, I'm a stick figure and I have a family. Yeah. And I grill. It's pretty great. No, it's like Dad Central.

Dadcore. So dad core. Okay. Before we leave you, I want to really quickly talk about how much time do we have? Two minutes and I would actually even argue like 1.30 because of how much I need to pee. Okay. White Lotus has lost.

We lost a good one. Helena Bonham. Bowman. What's her name? Bonham Carter. Replaced with Laura Dern. And did you know, she didn't know until she got to set that the character Mike White created.

for her was cute but no longer a match. Yeah. I saw it was cute but no longer a match. I want to know what the character was. It sucks. I need to know if this. And I think that they rewrote this character because Laura Duren's already been in White Lotus. Her voice is already in White Lotus.

I know. I feel like they're just going to be like that didn't happen. I promise you, Mike White does not flick away a character that he's created. She was Michael Imperiali's ex-wife? Yeah. I promise you she's that character. We had to, it was so cute not a match with Helena.

So she's gone and now we're rewriting the character. So it's like if it was so cute, not a match, that's fine. But like if you're rewriting the character anyway, like, why wouldn't you just rewrite it for something that's cuter and a match? There was a fall. There was a total falling out. And I think it could be truly because like Helena Bonham, and this is from my reading, I don't want to say. I just spent 30 minutes talking about Michael Jackson being like completely free of any wrongdoing. So this is complete hearsay.

But like I think that, okay, this is complete hearsay. I'm just saying what I wrote, what I read. It's, it's said that she's, she is and rightfully so kind of like a diva and she smells. She's a smelly diva. I could see her doing like a non-deodorant type of approach. She's very British and she's very theatrical. And she's also played like a witch and a sorcery. for so many years like this evil.

I really wanted to see that. Could you imagine? Yeah. And so I think that this, she probably got there and was like, wait, never mind. I don't need to play like a villain

and the villain is just like this white, rich lady, you know? Like, she's like, I have to cast a spell. I don't know. I didn't come here smelling like, smelling like how I smelled to be just a lady at a resort.

I really don't know. But I could see it. I could definitely see it not being a match. I know. That upsets me. I know. but like Laura Dern is like pretty damn great. You know I love Laura Dern.

I really also think Joan Kusak could be in White Lotus very easily. And I say once again with my chest casts Joan Kusack more. Agree. Did I miss the day they announced Max Greenfield is in it? Yeah, he was in one of those like batches. I must have missed that. To have him and Christmasina so like Mindy Project and New Girl collab is so awesome. I think that this could be a funny bit where they, someone announced,

they just do week after week announcing like a group of 11 people that are on White Lotus until it's like 450 people on White Lotus. That's funny. And it's, they just never actually have the show. I think that would be just really awesome, you guys. I love that. I watch all of beef.

I haven't even seen season one of that. I mean, if you, if you get really bored, it's, it's getting really good right now. I need to. watch it. But I want to talk to someone about it. I'm going to get in trouble at some point. I'll watch for next week. I can't talk about acting skills in shows anymore, like, because I

always have something to say and it's going to come back and bite me in the ass. But like, I have been shocked by some stuff recently. Okay. Negative connotation. Are you able to tell us in the bonus? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I'll talk about it. On that note, like, Like I have to go. Go pee. Yeah. Okay. And are you going to go?

I mean, I have a lot more stuff for the bonus. Okay. So we will catch up in the bonus. And then I have to get the hell out of here because they're going to come to my apartment with potential tenants. And I'm going to be like, hey, come on the podcast. Okay, bye, Brooke. Okay. Love you.

Bye. See you. See you guys. Thank you for listening. See you. Bye.