Bros & Shows - 14 DAYS BEFORE JASSI'S WEDDING?!?! (RHOP Full recap)

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

What's up Bros? We have a solid season on our hands. There are some little issues here and there, mainly surrounding individual cast members, but all in all this is a good season. We are still in Nevis and the ladies are getting ready for Jassi's bachelorette party. Ashley is still clinging to the "Stacey Lies" thing, as Gizelle appears to start warming up to her, finally. Angel continues to struggle with the group. To the point that the other castmates are beginning to point out some of her shortcomings as far as being a Housewife goes. Kiearna and Gizelle have it out and eventually are able to reach a good place. Jassi goes from 0-10000 REAL quick as Tia tries to bring up the catfishing comments from the night prior. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

I realized something today. We're in a good time right now. This is a good time to be a Bravo fan. And I haven't felt like this where we're surrounded by good shows in quite some time now. So I'm a happy boy. I feel like we have tried to be the people that point out, hey, realize when you're in the good times so that you don't relish them. You don't spend a couple of weeks in like July and look back and say, wow, we really had a good back in November. Do it now.

Realize where you are. come on do it now i was i just kind of sound like a motivational speech i thought you were going to further it but all right whatever uh well it's the cold intro so i was gonna in my head it fades out when you say do it now and then it gets into the theme song but what could be better than throwing a wrench in there with a little arnold do it now get to nevis Good afternoon, everybody. Welcome back to another episode of Brows and Shows. I'm your co-host, Steele Russell, joined as always by the one and only.

Shooter McGueter. I'm cold these days. I am not doing well recently. It's funny, too, because I feel like we've been getting an influx of suggestions. But I don't think you're reading the suggestions. or we're getting suggestions in the questions box, so we forget about them. I think that's actually what's going on right now.

But yeah, I spent seven hours in an airport yesterday. So that was great. That was really funny. I, who was it in, is it Tom Hankson, lost in translation? Is that the right one where you get stuck in the terminal? Yeah, the terminal. I always thought that was lost in translation. Whatever.

That's a very different movie. A very different movie, yeah. But yeah, I realized, because I was in Chicago's airport for seven hours, and I switched not terminals, but concourses, and it took me 20 minutes to walk there. I realized that I could probably spend like a week in an airport and not see every part of the airport. Oh, you just have to know how to do it. You have to know how. It's nothing to do with knowing it. I'm saying just based off of sheer mass, like the coverage of an airport, and then where you go, because it is a bit of.

of a maze. Now, obviously, if you know where you're going and you follow some signs here and there. But if you gave me a week, like a Mr. Beast challenge, if you will, cover every square inch of this airport in seven days. No chance I'd be able to do it. No, but it's interesting the things you come up with in your head when it's to sit in an airport for seven hours. Yeah. I kept trying to like find isolated areas to just like pull my laptop up and watch things like Potomac and, you know, Netflix shows that I haven't seen yet. Every time that I did that, a new gate would open and then like a floodgate of people would open and it's like get out of my space come go to the nat place it's like there's you pay for it's a little private room and they're not that

expensive and you get to like they didn't have where I was they didn't have a nap place and the worst part was my whole plan was to get a day pass for the club and as soon as I walk in two minutes after I get through security which by the way don't listen to TikTok it takes 30 seconds to get through security right now. Also, don't listen to Shooter. Because if somebody misses their flight and goes, well, shooter told me. No, I'm serious, honestly.

It is really funny because even TSA was like, yeah, don't listen to everything you see on TikTok, but your flight could get delayed hours, which mine did. Or canceled. I have a story about that. Yeah, but what the hell was I talking about? I don't remember, man.

Oh, the club. Club. So my plan was to stay in the club and just hang out there and get free snacks and free drinks and have a little bit of space maybe taking that they don't accept day passes right now because there's so many people doing that it's insane that makes sense actually yeah dev was in uh miami for a bachelorette oh yeah she texted me and i know she was going through it so her sunday night her flights at 630 the following morning flight gets canceled at like 10 pm so panic mode obviously all these flights are canceled there are no flights out

she finally finds a flight while I was asleep. So it's like two in the morning and I wake up to a bunch of texts. Hey, flying to LaGuardia. So I had to drive to LaGuardia to pick her up, which is fine. Oh, man. But traffic sucked. It was pouring rain. It was a debacle.

It was an absolute debacle. But she's home, safe and sound. That's the important thing. But yeah, airports right now. I'll be in one next Friday. Oh, man. It's hopefully everything's sorted out by them, but I don't know what the hell is going on. The funny thing is Dev texted me

And she's like, hey, the only layover I can find is in Chicago. Maybe we'll be at the same airport at the same time. I'm like, no, I'm actually driving up to Wisconsin right now. I'm not going to be there until tomorrow. And she goes, yeah, no, yeah, we still might be there. So who knows? Yeah, honestly.

You might be there for a day later. Yeah, because her original flight would have connected through Chicago, as you just said. And the timing of it, I was like, oh, wait, shooters flying out at night. So I was the one that's like, you might be on shooters flight. I didn't realize the Monday, Tuesday of it all. But anyway, that's all right.

Birds, well. Yeah, but we're here to talk about Potomac, not airports, and TSA. And I really like this season a lot. There's obviously some very obvious things that are just kind of annoying. But overall, overall, I really enjoy what I'm watching. Yeah, I enjoy what I'm watching too. I'm able to kind of separate the issues that I have. have because I feel like the issues I have are with people, not with things in a way. It's kind of odd.

It's not storylines. It's not disputes. It's not things that are being overly produced. It's just simply people. And I feel like, and maybe it's, you know what it actually is? I think the group is isolated these people. I think the group is kind of like, all right, like, yeah, we're not going to feed into this. We're not going to spend too much time on this looking at one or two people in this crew. But for the viewer, it helps a lot because we're not getting bogged down by it. It's just, just a little glimpse, like, oh, crap, you're still having a bad time? Like, can you just cheer up from the love of God and get involved in something that isn't your own shit? That would be nice. But I feel like the group isn't really allowing it to get

too murky and they're not allowing it to really, like, ruin their time. So that's actually conveying really well with the viewer. Yeah, I agree with that. We're not getting bogged down because they refuse to get bogged down. And there's a lot of chances to. There's also, and I'll save it from when we get there, but there seems to be a very important turning point or potential turning point that is laid out for somebody later. And I hope she takes it. I hope she goes this route because it's an off ramp to what we've seen thus far.

I'll wait until we get there, like I said. But why don't we jump right in and we're picking up where we left off? And that's a dinner where Jazzy claims that there's something that Kiara said about Wendy that is so very bad that it would be an eight point something on the scale of one to five. We don't know what that is. And because she's not there,

there's like an agreement that we're not going to discuss it anymore. If Wendy's not here, are we able to move on? I don't know, sleep on it. Who cares? We're going to sleep on it. Okay, everybody? I mean, it's kind of bullshit.

I am happy that they did kind of immediately quell it by saying we're just going to sleep on it, which I'm happy about because multiple people said to sleep on it. So you can tell, and that's kind of what I was talking about in the beginning. There are other people that are not allowing. us to get mixed into all this shit like all the she said she said stuff let's just wait until wendy feels better and she's with the group so that we can discuss this as a group we're not

going to talk about it right now because the only thing that's going to come of that is we'll talk about it now it'll get very confusing and you're going to say things that are not taken verbatim you're not going to take explicit things that wendy says and we're going to get it all out of context and then we're going to run home to a sick wendy and try to grill her and that's not going to be fun for anybody. Who wants to do that? Who wants to be in the same room as a sick person to begin with, let alone grilling them about something. It's not going to work out that well. So I'm happy that they did eventually do this, but that was immediately to me, all right, Jazzy, like, what are we doing here? We had a little spillover from last week, but going into this,

I'm like, you're not about to make this something and you're trying to make it a much bigger deal than it is. And I can already tell that that's how it's going. You're trying to make fetch happen. Stop trying to make fetch happen. And boy, oh boy, did she try to make fetch chap in this episode i was i remember now now i remember i don't like jazzy now i remember it took this episode she had a couple of strong episodes but she did i think she just doesn't leave her mark and i think that's what it is like last year even though like you said i i felt the same thing there were some negative things surrounding her that i didn't really care for but i don't really remember specifically what it was so i can't really put my finger on it better word indifference yeah yeah it's not that i don't

like her. It's just, yeah, okay. So now I'm understanding what producers are thinking by giving you a friend of role. It's sort of just like a backup. Like, all right, we've got two newbies coming in. Let's at least throw one more person and then that kind of understands how these things work because chances are, one of these people aren't going to understand how a housewife show works as we find out. But yeah, let's throw Jazzy in there. She at least understands things. But yeah, I'm not on board right now. And it could change. Yeah, it's a fluid season. Who the hell knows. But let's do shady shots. Shady shot time.

Did these shot glasses actually say these things? Nope. Giselle had them based in her head. That's what I thought. Okay. So anyway, she spills the shots. Mr. Sunshine brings over some, uh, one of those shots, honeybees. Honeybees, killer, killer bees, killer bees.

Killer bees. Jizel spills one on her, her outfit, which probably improved the outfit. She was asking, but not the shirt. I know you, I know you saw this. the same way that I did. When she's sitting there with a tray up like this, like going back and forth, I'm like,

you're just asking for it. By the way, one of those shots is way bigger than the others. And that is like a tower that she's going to fall over and hit everything else. And it did. Sure enough. Sure enough. So Duchess Darby.

Ha ha. I actually really liked Shady Shot time because of the current temperament of the group. Yeah. Since we are apparently being overly sensitive this season, and I'm only saying the newcomer is not. obviously the OG cast understands the assignment, especially on Potomac. We talked about this all season so

far. This show in particular you have to have thick skin because the quips are so good. These ladies are so quick and smart and the the shade that they throw always lands. So you have to be able to brush it off. That's the other thing with this group. They're not going to hold on to shit as long as you

take accountability and as long as you're able to move on. They'll move on too, but you have to be able to do those things. That's such a funny thing to say to because we were in the midst of exactly that for like two, three seasons, two and a half seasons at least for Potomac, where that's all we ever did was just continuously bring up all of the things that were said, a season prior about my, and then we got into the whole husband situation. It was a mess for a while.

So I think they did have to get through that fire to get to where they are now, which by the way, makes a good product. We never want that. And I think that's a universally liked thing about good housewife groups is when they're all able to just realize this isn't that big, let's move on. Let's, you know, do the fake apology, do a real apology. I don't care what you do. Just move on and stop talking about it.

And they've been doing a really good job at that for, honestly, the better half of last season and pretty much this entire season. Yeah. And a big part of why I like this scene is because there are a couple people that are still holding on and still getting too upset about things. This is like a good test, you know, because you go to Jazzy and you say, you're a stepmom. I was like, that's funny as shit. She takes it in stride. I think she took it a little personally. Tia.

A little personally, yeah. Tia is the stylist, which was a funny one, too. She obviously takes it in stride. Does the middle finger scratch of the eyebrow. I love that move. That one I'm okay with coming back around because the material just writes itself for Giselle. If Giselle's really going to hold on to the stylist thing,

and I think that is, Giselle also understands herself. So I think when she throws that out there, she expects to get a jab back and it'll come. Tia is just warming up, you know? Exactly. Stacey, we're sticking with the empty nothing thing. I was like, I thought we were past this.

We are, but it's later. We're not past it yet. That wasn't funny to me. She takes it like a champ as she's done all season, love Stacey. I was a little nervous when we get to Angel. Yeah. Angel says, chin check. I think if she had gone first, she would have gotten pissed.

Because, like, she saw everyone else laugh at theirs. She's like, oh, I got to laugh. And that's the thing that she even said on Watch What Happens Live. And I'm not even going to talk about what she was talking about later in this episode. But on Watch What Happens Live, she thought that this entire trip to the island was just gotcha moment after gotcha moment for her individually. And I'm like, do you not see what's going on? Stacey has her name on literally nothing, not one piece of clothing that was given out. Not even her shot says anything on it.

And you're really going to sit there and be like, I feel like they just kind of singled me out. and it was just gotcha moments for me the entire time. So I agree with you. I thought this would have gone a different way. But I do think because she went, what, fourth in the line of people going, that eventually she realized, okay,

everybody's getting the same level of shade right now. So I have to play it off. And I feel like Angel right now is a flip of a coin. Like she could get pissed off immediately, act like it's going to ruin her whole night and then make it a thing for three days. Or she'll just get over it right away. If she could just focus on that part of it,

I think she's okay. If we can just kind of look at that, on its own. She's done a pretty good job when she gets over it right away. She has some characteristics that are okay. And she can jab back in a kind of funny way or at least a way that's going to keep things going. It's the other side of it. It's just, it's the other side of it just completely overpowers. And it's like, all right, you've got to figure it out. Yeah, it makes her borderline unwatchable. I think it's important to note other people have pointed out as well. She may be dealing with some postpartum. And that could very well explain

some of the mood swings and stuff like that. So I don't want to be insensitive to all of that. That being said, we do have to review a show. So I will be honest, but take it with a grain of salt. Fine. I'll leave the mood swings out of it just for the sake of that. That's entirely fine. But there is still so much more that she's doing.

That gives you an idea that she has no fucking clue what she's doing on this show. And it's really irritating me. Like, she's gotten to the point now where, what are we, six, seven episodes into this season? six she might be the worst housewife higher than i've seen in a long time it's close it is really bad and it's just purely because she just doesn't understand how a housewife show works and by the way you're getting this upset this early it's only going to get worse and it's only going to get worse if you keep reacting this way and yeah at some point they'll just kind of ice you out because they don't feel like dealing with it but this is fucking child's play so far and this is how you're reacting

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Anyway, everyone disperses and we get some quick, like, cutseys. in everyone's respective villa. This makes me nervous because you get Angel and Kiana in their villa. And of course, they're doing it always. It's like, oh, we live to fight another day. It's like, oh, you and me versus the world kind of vibe, which is really bad for both of them, because it's dragging them further into that hole. Then we's checking with Ashley and Stacey.

I don't love production jumping in here and sitting down. And they're like, oh, well, you know, we saw you on a date with Chris Samuel. so we're going to address that, blah, blah, blah, blah. I thought we were done with this shit. We're not. I know we're going to bring it up when Monique comes back, obviously. But, like, I thought it was handled. I think we're all, at least, I'm sure you probably are on the same page.

Like, you guys maybe went on some dates. Like, who fucking cares? You don't have a relationship, nor do you even really know Monique at all aside from who she is and you know of her. Fine. I do want to pose a question to you because this is the thought that I had. there is because it's Ashley I think I know the answer to this do you think that Ashley's pushing this of her own accord like she just wants this to be a thing and she thinks that this is hot or do you think that maybe producers are slipping this in here and giving

Ashley some feedback saying hey keep pushing this a little bit because we do want to bring Monique back because it almost does obviously it sets the stage for Monique to come back but this does smell a little bit like all right yeah we can just feed a Ashley like she'll do our dirty work for us and then in a couple episodes we'll bring Monique back and it'll be a thing because otherwise it won't be a thing if we don't talk about this and it could have just been a little one-off thing and yeah maybe Ashley's ever playing it but it does feel like there's a little bit more to this than just Ashley being annoying yeah I would say somewhere in the middle of that I don't know who brought it to who first I don't know if

Ashley saw it and she mentioned something like ooh go with that or production was like oh did you hear about this I don't know especially if production saw them on a date and maybe it came from uh what's her name a karen's friend uh stacey utah socialite no yeah no no amy whatever the fuck no no no carin's friend um oh man what the hell was her name cookie that they sat cookie thank you i was going to say oh nice they all was cookie now you're right and when they were at the he's the one who brought it up so that was enough i think for ashley to go but again i think that still would have happened i think the reason why it's dragging on more and more

and more is partly because ashley just keeps pinning on uh stacey that she's a huge liar and she's lying about everything which is really getting fucking annoying it's so annoying but i think it's also just a little bit of a bridge like all right let's just keep bridging this gap until we can get monique in there and pretty kind of pushing it a little bit more that's my thought anyway i think that there's some some value to that for sure uh and i would imagine as we go through it will be able to figure it out a bit more as to who's really pushing and driving this whole thing. Ashley FaceTime's her mom. She's still talking to Josh.

I can't imagine telling your mom that you sent a dude a naked picture, but, you know, whatever. You see the picture that they put up there too. It's like, don't pull the wool over our eyes. We know she didn't send a fucking nice, classy picture. That's selfie at dinner is not what was said. Yeah, the way that she's talking. Especially his response is like, oh, I just lost my brother. It's like, all right, dude, I don't need to see your dirty text.

Yeah. Fucking Jack Harlow late. Wendy and Stacy are getting ready for the day the following morning. And Stacy has a fat lip. Wendy's like, what the hell? Wendy's having such a great season. And the way that she's handling everything going on right now, weirdly's making me like her more.

She went and I guess she had to do her plea. And she went right from her plea to the end. after show recording. Yeah. Like that's what she's laughing and smiling. Yeah. So she's, she's handling it so well.

And if she honestly, like, if she doesn't go to prison and she doesn't have to serve any time and hopefully Eddie doesn't either, if that's how that plays out, the next season is going to be unbelievable with Karen coming back, Wendy there, Stacy being involved in a very big way that she wasn't before Karen went away. I'm so excited. I'm like salivating at what the cast could be next year. if they just clean a couple of things up here and just have those two in there.

Oh, man. Yeah, dude, it could be a very interesting season. And I hope she gets through it. I hope that they're not guilty, honestly. That would be awesome. Yeah, obviously, we're rooting for not guilty verdicts and that they didn't do something really, really shady. I don't give a shit. Yeah, you stole from insurance companies.

Like, I. Congratulations, actually. Well done. Pay all that money and you never get shit out anyway. So I don't really give a fuck. She's got a fat lip from an allergic reaction. And all that really does, though, is just like set up a transition moment where Ashley is once again saying Stacey lied. Mm-hmm.

About what? If you're under the impression that she had sex with Chris and that's what you're holding on to, one, again, we don't care. Two, there's no evidence. There's nothing that's going to make us be like, oh, great storyline. Ooh, we care about Chris Samuels who hasn't been on this show in four fucking years. what it doesn't fucking matter it is such a non-issue and even before ashley drops in the little pinocchio line about her lips growing as she's lying oh that's i thought to myself i thought to myself immediately before that that ashley was going to say oh she's having an allergic reaction

because she's lying so much it must be the stress building up on all the lies are just kind of pouring out like i was waiting for that comment that's where ashley's going this season And I've had such enough of that. I'm still over that whole thing because even fucking Giselle is moving on. And I know Ashley's going to lag behind a little bit. But if Giselle moves on, you have to move on. We can't do this anymore. No, especially with no, if she's on it by herself with no Giselle to give us a reprieve,

it's going to be even more exhausting than it already is. So let's get to the yacht. We're handing out towels. This is a big moment because initially I'm like, okay, this is really. really fucking old we're handing out towels they're all monograms we get the stacey's towel no name on the towel ha ha ha but in this moment jazel says i didn't know who you were i weren't sure about you i know who you are now so if we did this again it would say stacy on the towel i was so relieved that we can move on from this stuff and like the the picking on stacey of it all because it's

great that she's taking it so well yeah but it's just annoying it's really an but you still can't convince me that Giselle doesn't secretly love Stacey. I really do think. And I know because you can use the examples of what she's doing to the rest of the women, especially the newbies, just kind of ribbon them a little bit, throwing some things out there, seeing what you can do, test in the waters. She's been doing that with Stacey. She did it all last year.

She did it again in the beginning of this year. Obviously, there were some inconsistencies. We're not blind to those things. We're not blind to the whole T.J. situation. We're not blind to the fact that, yeah, she might be hiding the fact that she's dating her husband again, but she copped to that. We do need to move on. And I do think that Giselle,

the way she's doing it, is still very mirrory, mirrory, mirroring. I don't fucking know. She's mirroring, mirror, I can't speak. She's mirroring her behavior from last year towards Stacey a little bit this year. But I think that she's growing on her. Stacey is growing on Giselle.

And by the end of the season, if they're happy and they're good, I'm going to love it. I agree. I think they're going to be a great duo. They're able to maintain this. but flashing back to the dinner the night prior Kearna's name was shot was named

Giselle Hater so we have like a team powwow now everyone sits down we're just going to have a team chat everyone's going to talk we're going to clear all the air all the transgressions are going to be absolved let's just be honest with each other and the Giselle Hater thing comes back up now that Wendy is present we're able to talk about it because Wendy's the one that was there. So Wendy says that Kearna was talking shit about Giselle,

that she was upset with Giselle and she went as far to say that I hated Giselle. I think it's important to note that Wendy says that she said hated. As it all starts to come out, Kearna is saying, I was really upset. I never said hated. Wendy goes, well, it was giving that. It's like, all right, but that's different than saying. Giving is different than verbalizing.

So I guess what had happened. It was after Sesame Street bopped her with the bottle last year. Everyone else had reached out. Giselle didn't reach out to check on Kiyana. Giselle goes on to say that was in the midst of my father being sick. He was in the ICU and he shortly thereafter passed away. I was in no place to think about you. I didn't even, it didn't cross my mind.

Kearna didn't cross my mind at all. So my only issue with this. is simply that Keiarna mentions that they discussed this. So that's where I'm like, all right, I don't love if we're drumming this back up to do it on camera. If this has already taken place,

there's Giselle of every right to be defensive of why she didn't reach out. Yeah, that makes sense to me. I can also understand Kearna being upset that she didn't reach out, not knowing that that was going on at the same time. But if we're doing the thing

where we hash it out off camera, camera, things are cool, but we're going to bring it back up on camera for dramatic effect. I don't like when we do that. It's not my fave. I see, I don't think that that's what we have here, but it is kind of weird. The way that it was discussed seems like that's the situation. Kind of what we have here. I think this is Jazzy's fault.

Jazzy started this. Jazzy brought this up in a shady way and a shady comment without knowing that it was hashed out because I don't believe that Jazzy knew that the two of them and already hashed it out. But again, like you said, I don't really care for the way they talk. about it. If that's how it was and that's what we know happens, then just started off by saying you already know this. We already talked about this. I've already gone through all of this. Like at least just do it that way because then at least we know you're not recreating some weird drama that happened before that we weren't privy to that we don't really care about

anymore, to be honest. So don't do that to us. But also I think the I think the blame definitely lies with Jazzy because she was trying to stir something up. Yeah. And again, that's fine with me as well. I just don't see the need to do any of this. But Tia comes in in a wonderful way. Unbelievable performance by Tia. Way to separate yourself from the newbie crowd. You just jumped right into an old cast mate. Yep.

Yep. She steps in and there's a very few people, a very small select group of housewives that are able to do this effectively. We see this attempted all the time. It never works because people talk over. Tia just breaks it down very calmly, says, listen, Kiarna, I lost my dad, too. In a similar situation, I was a changed person after that.

You can't expect anything from Giselle after that had happened. That being said, it doesn't change that you want your friends to validate how you feel. Can we all agree on that? I'm nodding my head at home. I'm like, absolutely, Tia, that makes total sense to me. Everyone at the table or everyone on the yachts. like yeah yeah that's that's pretty good shit to you and it leads to kearna getting emotional and being like you know what totally get where you're coming from i'm sorry if the timing was

bad blah blah blah blah i was just upset because of blah blah blah jazelle i get it i agree we're good i love you i love you too wipe the hands i mean perfect perfect settle of an argument i don't want to take anything away from tia but as we just talked about they did already have this conversation so maybe that's why they weren't talking over that i just had a moment no because immediately that's where my brain went to like yeah this usually isn't that effective oh it's because everybody's screaming over each other and then why is that not happening here oh because we've already discussed this so this isn't the first time we've gone through this so emotions aren't that high but whatever tia did an incredible job and more than anything she just it's not the accent

the way she speaks is very eloquent she's very she's very she's very she's very very straight to the point. She doesn't mince words. She gets right into it and you know exactly what she's doing and she's very emotionally intelligent. It's very gentle. Yeah, it's a good way to just do that. She's very precise. She gets right in there and she can relate to both people. And that's what all they really want, honestly, in any of these housewife arguments. If you have somebody who can relate to both of you and then try to bring you together and it works, that's all you need. That is an arbitrator. 100%. And this is the moment I was talking about earlier. This is the off ramp. This is for Kiarna to abandon ship with Angel and get back with the main group.

Giselle just, that's the olive branch you needed. You can put all of this, because that's all encompassing. I know it's about a specific thing with Giselle. This is an all encompassing offer of, we can wipe all of it clean, come back to the good side.

I hope she takes this chance. I hope she doesn't get bogged down by Angel and what she's doing. Because I want to see Kiarna with the group. Not even if I know, like, I still don't know if she is capable of doing this job. I do know for a fact we'll never know that if she continues down this path with Angel. So this is the only chance to get back with the group. I hope she takes it.

I'm not confident, but I'm cautiously optimistic. Yeah, I don't really know, honestly. I don't think there's a way forward to be honest. It's tough. It's tough. I'm just, I'm trying to be positive, Peter. Yeah. We'll see.

We'll see how it goes. So let's get to dinner. Stacey has a name tag. I know that Giselle didn't bring the name tags, but Stacey has a name tag on something finally, so that was a big moment there. Do you think she had the call last minute to be like, hey,

I know I told you to put one blank name tag there, but just right it's Stacey. I want to think that happened. I think that probably happened. I would like to think that that occurred. Yeah. But the big conversation here is the fact that Stacey apparently declined to be a bridesmaid in Jazzy's wedding.

The reason being, her weed company is opening the same day or launching the same day as Jazzy's wedding. She can't miss that. So she told her, I'm sorry, love you, can't make it.

This one's tough because, you know, Giselle obviously now gets a free shot at Stacy. So all the progress we made might have just gone away because now she's like, well, that just tells me that Stacy's a bad friend. Stacey doesn't look out for her peeps,

stuff like that. I need your just straight up opinion. Is it? Oh, I think this is incredibly relatable. Yeah, do you think this is a good reason? Yeah, who the fuck wouldn't? No, this isn't a good reason.

She had some sort of excuse prepared. It doesn't really make it sound of sense because you're already, I imagine Jazzy probably has a real bachelor at party. I don't think this is it. At least I hope it's not because that would be kind of sad. Yeah, she had a co-ed bachelor party with Derek. Oh, right. She did say that, which fucking sucks.

But that being said, if a, like her and Jazzy are that tight, they're friends i don't think there's a whole lot there when it comes to i only did this because you're going to be on the show and it's good publicity for me to do that she's a bridesmaid i don't want to diminish their friendship that's a big ask is it though i don't know i the way i look at jazzy i feel like it was just kind of like i don't really have that many friends i'm just going to throw this out there but maybe i'm wrong could be that maybe i'm wrong that's the vibe i get and also the way i view their friendship is it's pretty surface level you know we hang out yeah we met because of the show. You asked me to be a bridesmaid. That's pretty fucking weird. If I'm asked to be

in like a groom's party and I don't really know the person and it's not family, I don't want to do that shit. And I'm sure women feel the same way about being a bridesmaid. That is one for women. It costs way more money to go do all of that shit and buy your dress and do all of these things for the bride beforehand. You don't really want to do that to begin with. But also it's a lot more than just showing up to a wedding for a day, bringing a gift and then leaving afterwards. You have all this other shit to do. You've got responsibilities. If it's just an acquaintance and somebody you work with, fuck no, do I want to do that. So I'm on Stacy's side with all this. I don't think there's anything to read into there with, oh yeah, I'm going to the wedding because she's on the show now.

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Your healthy portion of true crime, wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, and I just thought this was a, just whiff. This didn't land at all for me. And then for Giselle to go further into it and be like, I think she said no, because she was going to be on the show. Surprise,

she's on the show. She's like, oh, I will go to the way. I was like, this is too deep for something that doesn't matter that we already talked about once again. Because Stacey's like,

we talked about this. The minute I hear that, I'm like, I don't care that. This is a moot point. This is nothing. This is a big old nothing burger. But that's not where the drama pops off.

And up until this point, I'm still like, wow, a good return she did have a couple moments early on but i was like that's fine i'm not really going to read too far into that holy shit is all i can say and i texted you and i said so jazzy's a loser by the yeah yeah yeah you did tia brings up the catfishing thing last night or the night prior to this she took it in stride when jazzy offered up that information where she's like well you do the same thing with yours and obviously because of tia's stance in the moment she couldn't be like yo fuck you

because she was saying a good friend would do that. She's like, oh, thank you. But she wants to address it tonight. And not in a way that's, I don't do that. She just goes, well, Jazzy, I went on your page. And it appears that you do a similar thing. And guess what? Pick anybody at the tables page.

They probably filter their photos. Pick most people in the world, probably a filter. So we've watched Tia take it in stride. we watched Angel get upset but still take it in stride considering I thought that was fucked up when they brought it up to Angel the way that the whole thing went down

I didn't agree with so I thought she handled it fairly well all she's doing is passing the buck on to you Jazzy Okay so Jazzy brandishes her fork at Tia and goes let me tell you something Tia I was like whoa this feels like it escalated already yeah big time

and she goes on a fucking she's like you come into this group she starts mocking her accent and it's all this like blah blah blah I'm watching you shit this took such a drastic turn so fast I was like oh my god so she gets up in arms because she's recapping the story from mr sunshine the night before where she's like and then this is the same girl that told me in like a giggly way mr sunshine is looking at you and he loves you he thinks you're cute 14 days before my wedding, screams at the top of her months. That was so taking it back.

That was unbelievable the way that that turned out. I think it actually kind of started a little rocky. I'm like, please don't do this, Tia. I thought she was going to do the same thing that Angel did. So did that. All of a sudden, she was cool with something, and now she's not cool with it after sleeping on it. Apparently sleeping on things and then getting read mad about them is going to be a theme

this year. I was a little worried. It didn't last that long because as soon as she gets started, Jazzy just goes after her. that reaction was not warranted. It made no sense at all. And all I can really see is there's some insecurities in there. You're getting married to a guy.

We already know the backstory there. The idea that there is another guy flirting with you. Yeah, of course, you're going to get a little upset about it. But that's not even remotely what was going on here at all. No. And she starts off with the mocking. Mocking of an accent is always like the lowest thing on a totem pole of insults. Shut up.

We're not doing that here. So this just turned into something insane. And I love the way that Tia handled it because she was. You've got angry issues. Yeah, you've got angry issues. Like, great call. Way to go. You can see that everybody at the table is uncomfortable.

I'm like, what's the fucking going on here? We're celebrating this woman this weekend? She's a tyrant. What the hell are we doing? I don't know. It was the way, yeah, the way that it turned was not expected. Not even remotely. And as we're going through this whole thing, I don't even know who it was,

but someone's like, well, you know, for what it's worth, Tia came up to me after the dinner and Mr. Sunshine wanted to get a picture with everybody. And she even mentioned like, oh, Mr. Sunshine's like all about Jazzy. I don't want her to feel uncomfortable because she's standing next to him. Like she's looking out for you. And then jokingly, in jest, as you're returning to the sprinter van, she says to you, uh, Darius has competition. Who on earth thinks you're cheating on your NFL.

husband with Mr. Sunshine. As somebody points out, he's got two dreads and two teeth. This was the most tongue-in-cheek thing that could have ever possibly have been said. Mr. Sunshine, honestly. I know. Now he's taken astray.

Delightful. He was flirting a little bit. What do you want him to do? Come on. Why are we doing this to him? I thought that would have squashed it, but it doesn't because now Jazzy's got an attitude. And she's like, don't be a shady motherfucker to Tia. And I was like, this is so weird. She starts mocking her accent once again.

She was like, I like to be shady and, like, says it with that like snap of the head. It just looks like she's still pissed off about this. Luckily, Tia makes a joke about it and says I'm offended. And you know she could have been, but she doesn't want to do this anymore. It was just so strange. And the only thing, the only thing that I can come up with, which is not going to make any sense later as we get further into all of this. She's afraid that Darius is going to see this and get pissed off. She's afraid that the reaction from her soon-to-be husband is going,

to be, are you kidding me? You were flirting with another guy, which is crazy. This is crazy work. Let alone the fact that most of the shady comments that have come your way since you've been in Nevis have been about Darius and what he was doing before you guys started dating. He had two babies on you. Yeah, like, what are we doing? This is the least of his concerns, the least of your concerns.

But again, that's what I'm saying. All of this just screams insecurity, which I get. I understand why you're insecure. Based on what we've heard about the history of your relationship. Based on the two-fad-pice you're seeing. Yeah. Don't add gasoline to the fire by having this sort of reaction. That doesn't make a ton of sense.

She plummeted, plummeted in the rankings. And then she doesn't do herself any favors later either. But it was just baffling. I have not seen that before from a newcomer, especially. It was crazy. So let's get to 30 minutes later. 30 minutes later. We're on the way home.

from dinner and we don't have cameras up we don't have mics up but we do have like phones up and angel and jazzier is a producer's phone was i don't maybe i believe it was yeah because it was from a weird angle and nobody like you could see everybody on the cast was sitting up there so i think a producer just pulled their phone out they're like well i got to do this but the footage that we get angel and jazzy are talking somebody messaged jazzy and all we really hear is she is a snagletooth and stringy hair it's angel talking shit about this person showing jazzy a picture of this person this is who you're talking about so we don't know what the hell's going on but we know that somebody is either fucking with bobby or the family is all we're getting from this little

clip so that takes us to slut night they named it not me wait did you think the same thing that i thought by the way did you think this was about somebody in the group and we were doing another face tune thing like check out this this bitch is yeah yes i thought that's what we were doing angel enough it's been fucking days since we've had to deal with this you don't get to keep doing this that's what i thought it was i was slightly relieved that it wasn't about that but the rest of it is just come on yeah it's ridiculous but i i had the same exact thought i was a little bit nervous stacey and aliturhosen is fucking hilarious so on brand for stacey nice work it just looks like you know, a batch threat party setup. There's penis

straws, there's, you know, handcuffs, there was also vagina straws. There was a plethora of different body parts straws. I know, it's so funny that they blur out plastic straw penises and stuff. It was so funny when they were drinking and you could just see the blur underneath of your mouth. They're like, what are we doing?

I know. It's like, we know what it is. Like, it's a plastic penis. Like, who, no one cares. But this made me so worried. So worried. And I just wrote in big letters, why are you on this show because it cuts over to Angel and she's just bothered by the conversation earlier and she's really tired. It's like this is housewives, dude.

This is what we do. This is literally the bread and butter of the show. What do you mean? You're tired. You got to be in there. You missed last night or no, I guess you were there. Kearnal missed the other night. You have so much ground to make up.

You can't afford to take nights off and you can't sit there and go, I'm sleepy. everyone's sleepy you've been drinking for two days it's need us you're tired wake up party yeah i feel like that's when like at this point she's lost all of like the okay i'll give you a pass on this one because you had a baby 18 months ago you probably are tired maybe you haven't had a lot of getaways you have not a whole lot of time away fine i get it but the way that she reacts to everything immediately that good faith is out the window like i i want to give her that good faith i gave it to were the first night when Giselle was being mean and showing pictures. It's like she didn't choose that picture and she also just had a baby. So you probably picked a different picture

that somebody else picked and you're being fucking mean about it. I'm on Angel's side. But every step of the way, she does something that just turns me off immediately and I won't allow that to keep happening. This was unbelievable. But she goes into the explanation of this. I guess Bobby, when he was in Chicago, there was another wag that was there that was being nice. and Angel was just trying to be nice to her and be friend her and be part of the group. And it turned into a nightmare because Bobby had to get calls with his agent and his financial partners saying that here you go, Angel's not taking her birth control and she's lying about it so that she can have a baby on you and lock you into place.

And she wants to steal all of your money. She is stealing your money. She's actually actively stealing your money. And then she turned into a bully and the whole thing turned into angels being mean to other people and there's eyewitnesses out there that have seen her just bully other wags and push them away and she's so much better than everybody else give me a fucking break man i mean i can see that and i actually hope if that did happen that she would lean into it fuck it who cares you can tell your side of the story and say somebody's lying on me somebody's probably trying to snake in there

and get to bobby away from me and then i was a bitch to them that would actually be believable. And if that did happen, that's what I want you to say, because then we'll have respect for you because that fucking sucks. Bobby married you. Bobby has kids with you. You're still his wife. It seems like he loves you. It seems like you love him. Why the fuck does any of this matter? I don't know. It's bullshit. And when she goes deeper into, well, now I'm mad at Jazzy, I'm like, you got to be fucking kidding me at this point. Like, what are we doing here? It's like satire. it's like watching somebody that is completely unprepared to be a housewife be thrust into a housewife show but you wanted to be here and like this whole story after seeing how you are here could i believe that you were like the og wag in chicago you've been there for a little while and other people came into the group and you were rude as shit to them yeah actually because of your behavior thus far i could totally believe that unfortunately for you But like you said, to then take this, one, let it ruin your entire night because some random person DM to Jazzy.

Like, I would understand if you're skeptical trying to understand how Jazzy came to this information. Did you reach out to her? Did she reach out to you? In my head, it probably went along the lines like this. Oh, we know some of the same people. I'm going to reach out and say, hey, I'm on a show with this woman named Angel, Bobby Massey's husband or Bobby Massey's wife. Do you know it? Have you met her?

What's she like? And then the rest came from that. I don't know. I don't really care. What I do know is that the number one faux pa in these shows, according to the housewives is when you have information and you talk about it behind their back or you use it against them. In this regard, Jazzy came to you, showed you the phone.

This is what happened. And your move is when you're up to mess with Jazzy, you say I'm in a handcuffer what's my charge having a big mouth the second she said that I was like no now we're not going to go after Jazzy with this that'd be silly that'd be stupid we're not going to do that lo and behold I'm not sure if I'm mad at Jazzy why for what what did she do to you she told you what's up she did it off camera off mic yeah and that's the biggest thing I know and Wendy is like this is the best way to put it you just get too hot and bothered with shit.

I actually says that. It's like everything is the end of the fucking world. And now you're outside talking to Bobby on the phone. I'm sick of these bitches. I don't want to be here anymore. They didn't come after you. And ever since the Photoshop thing, which is such a non-starter.

Like I felt bad for you then. But that's like the easiest shade that they all throw at each other all the time. Fucking page six does it daily. Like, look at this Photoshop. Like, what are we doing? yeah i don't i really don't understand it and that's what goes into you have no fucking idea what show you're on because all of us watching at home understand immediately and thankfully wendy did say that explicitly she told you off camera that means that this is not a gotcha moment this is not a

oh fuck we're going to bring this up as soon as the cameras start rolling jazzy went out of her way who by the way has only been on this show for one season finally understands exactly how these things work i'm going to show this to you while there's no cameras up and our mics are off so that you have a better understanding of what's going on. Just so you know that this is going on. I'm not going to bring this up. But by the way, you're now bringing it up in front of cameras. As soon as the cameras are rolling, you're talking about it.

So now you're pouring gasoline on the existing fire that could have been snuffed out immediately. But you're adding fuel to this fire for whatever fucking reason. And you're getting mad at Jazzy now? She did you a solid. That doesn't make any sense. She's going to tell you she didn't sit down. with Ashley the next day when they get back to Potomac and say, by the way, this is what I've got.

And producers love that shit. And by the way, when producers pick up their cameras and they see you guys interacting and talking about something, they want to see that. They don't want things to happen behind cameras because that's not how these shows work. Jazzy did you a fucking solid. Jazzy's looking out for you. And your reaction is to then get mad at Jazzy. And then when other people are trying to, she doesn't know.

She doesn't know. But that's the other part. Other people are explaining to you. and not in a mean way, this is a nice thing that Jazzy just did for you. We could have left this alone if it was explained as such, but you didn't do it that way and now you're getting mad at Jazzy. Now you're mad at us and now you're sleepy and you want to leave

and you can't be around these women. That makes no sense. We're still trying to do you a solid and explain to you. This is how you do things when you have information that you don't want on the show. But now the information is on the show because you decided to put it there. It doesn't make any fucking sense. I can't wrap my head around it. I can't wrap my head around the fact that you are now on day three of this trip and you've

gone through a couple different things. But now you're sitting here like, oh, yeah, they really just wanted to get after me. They really wanted to single me out and come after me. No, you saw it happen to everybody else. Did you not see any of the interactions that Kearna and Jazzy got into? Did you not see what Giselle's been doing to Stacey the whole weekend? The fact that you're going to sit here now and say, I'm done with these women, they barely did anything to you.

The FaceTune shit was out a lot. We all agree with that. You agreed with it and half the women agreed with it. And here's Tia trying to have your back and going after Jazzy to try to keep the cycle going to try to prove that everybody else does this. And yet you still feel singled out. It makes no sense to me that she hasn't been able to pick up one iota of information on how this show works in three, four days.

And she's been filming for longer than that. I know. It's genuinely fascinating. It's concerning, too, because we have a whole deal out with this. I know. And I can't do this for an entire. season like right now we're getting through just fine like that's going to get really really old josell points out you brought this shit up dude yep this is your own doing and then you're

going to go outside and call bobby and say i'm tired of the questioning i'm tired of the inquisition you are new here and you're not talking to anybody so people are asking you questions if they didn't ask you questions you would have been silent this whole time other than saying things like am i on the menu tonight which again tease you up to get shit on you're putting yourself in all of these precarious positions and then pointing fingers all around you you're the problem no no no the problem's coming the call's coming from in the house angel sure is like this is all your fault and everyone on the show is seeing that and that's the crazy thing like joselle has been for whatever reason letting you go she's been giving you a

pass look what she's doing to Stacy if you think she's singling you out she hasn't really said much to you and then this is the moment that changes that because she's like no no no like this is insane you can't talk about it and like again i feel like i'm in this situation with angel and i've been in this situation with angel for like five straight episodes there are so many things that i can think of right now off the top of my head that would have been better reactions to all of those things and you could have spun it in a way of look jazzy was just giving me some information i already know everything about this just some bullshit that happened like 10 years ago but she told me off cameras to not bring it up on camera and it's got something to do with my family and i'd rather not discuss it right now

and yeah you're going to have a shady person like ashley that tries to lean in like oh what's going on there and if they keep it off camera they keep it off camera but you don't have to open up this can of worms right now and there's so many ways to address it and there's so many ways to come out of this looking cooler than you already have looked and the bar is very low right now if you just react positively in a good way or you know if you want to keep presenting yourself as this boss bitch and you've got a handle on everything and you're not going to let anybody get to you. We've seen everybody get to you so far. So that's wrong. But if you want to try to do that, be cool about it and be like, yeah, this shit happened a couple years ago and I'm fucking sick and tired of

hearing about it. It's bullshit. And Bobby and I are in a great place and there's nothing to say about this. We can move on. That would be cool. Be strong about it if that's who you are. That's who you tell us you are so just do it i just i don't get it i can't wrap my head around it and i hate when i do this with housewives especially new ones because there's just so many things to look at and be like just do this anything's a better option not speaking would have been a better option anything but what you did would have been a better option and wendy breaks the fourth wall in a very fun moment because she is legitimately just explaining the rules of housewife that's all she's doing we all know the rules of engagement guys no mics no cameras

means you're looking out for you're trying to do somebody a solid as you said if there's mics and cameras involved we understand it's fair game if you say it in front of the camera and she's alluding to both sides of this she's saying jazzy tried to protect you you've just given us the ammo so now we're going to use it like she doesn't even realize that she did that like you set us up now so now ashley is without question going to dig on this And everyone else is going to make jokes about it that you can't handle. Yep, exactly. It's unbelievable.

It's just frustrating. And I'm glad, and I think that you're right. And I think this is what's giving us life elsewhere on this show, is that we've reached a point where it appears the ladies don't care. They just like chalk it up as, all right, she's doing this. We're going to keep doing what we want to do. She can be miserable and sulking in the corner with Kiarna. Hopefully Kiarna is able to separate a little bit now. now she did I was when she went outside I was like no but she leaves pretty quickly so I was

like okay like at least you didn't linger you're back with the group I don't know yeah kearna just came out to check on her but and that's the other thing too because I think kearna can offer so much more to the show I agree she is getting bogged down like I don't want to get anything twisted there because I've had my moments where you know I'm a little fed up with kearna but she's not really doing a whole lot more than another you know mid level housewife is doing but when she does things with Angel, that's when she pulls down into the lower tier where it's like, okay, I don't really need you anymore.

You can go away. But if she can perform in that mid-level, she's fine. Because we do need bodies on this show. We need things to happen on this show. We can't just have the heavy hitters the entire time. Don't get bogged down by what Angel's doing. And it might also help Angel, because if you separate yourself a little bit

and you get ingratiated with the pack, maybe Angel will come around because she will feel alone instead of just putting herself as the victim the entire time. It's just, it's annoying, but, um, let's see what our fans think about this one. Yeah, let's check in with the audience. Oh, I love when this happens. I will read, by the way, just giving you guys a heads up, I will read every one of these questions that you ask as long as you tell me what your name is in a way that I can pronounce it.

So for example, we've got Myra, uh, which I believe in the past we've called her Maira. So Myra, shout out Myra. Myra Helwig, which rookie is your favorite so far? Will Angel stop being a Debbie Downer? I think you know the answer to the first part of that. It would be Tia. If anyone's answer is not Tia, you're wrong.

Yeah, that would be crazy. Will she stop being a Debbie Downer? I think she'll come out of it. And this might be wishful thinking. But I do think she'll come out of it because she'll realize, like, I can't do this all season. I can't be like this all season because it's not good for her either. Like, she must feel it. Like, I don't want to do this the whole time.

I better try to do something. not even from a show standpoint, but just from like a, I've spent a lot of time with these women. Do I really want to be defensive and putting on a show the whole time? Probably not. So I think she will chill out a little bit. It's just whether or not she's going to let things activate her, which I think is unavoidable at this point.

Yeah, I don't know. I could, I could definitely see a season where she's the victim. Yeah. A perpetual victim. She doesn't get over this. And then when she's then isolated from the group, she then blames the group for her isolation because they were quote unquote picking on me too much i could see that so i don't i don't know and that's the the crazy thing is this juxtaposition

we have currently especially early in the season stacey was getting straight up bullied to the point that we were talking about it being annoying that we needed to stop the bullying that's not that's not even remotely what's happening to you not even an iota of that you're getting in normal tiffs with other housewives but you just don't know what to do that's unbelievable uh from blacksmith rev do you think the jazzy comes across is too performative and is quote unquote auditioning for full time that is a pretty good point i do think to a certain extent we well we said it last week like when we still like jazzy you know this was a big down episode for her things change but she was doing a pretty good job and in light of what's going on

with Angel, it's like, okay, yeah, that was a built-in, like, safety barrier. Like, all right, if Angel sucks, we can just push Jazzy into there and give her a little bit more time. But, yeah, this episode definitely changed that. I don't know if it's performative, though. I think, again, whenever you're talking about, which she's going to have to get over if she wants to be on the show, but every time that somebody's talking about Darius or her wedding or anything that has to do with infidelities, she freaks the fuck out.

And I get that. I understand the insecurity that it's associated with. but if you're going to be able to show like this, you can't let that get to you. So I don't know if it's performative. I think that it's just, that's what she is. I think that a much bigger red flag, 14 days before your wedding, as you so told us, if you are this insecure about things like that,

and you're seeing two fucking counselors just to get to the wedding day, I think that's a big red flag. I think that's a much bigger red flag than Mr. fucking sunshine, just saying. And that's my other thing, I even mentioned that I forgot. So Mr. Sunshine, that whole thing, that, that's a bridge too far. But you're on camera in straight up underwear and then Ashley licks a

chocolate D off of your neck. That's like, I'm just wondering what I wouldn't have even mentioned that had it not been for the Mr. Sunshine thing. What's the barometer then? Where, where do we draw the line of that's inappropriate because I don't get I do not get it. I didn't lick it off.

Well, obviously. He would have. But that's my question, though. It's like, so that stuff's fine. But a guy, not even a guy, Tia making a tongue-in-cheek joke about,

oh, there's has competition. That sentence is more damning for your relationship than the Bachelorette party. I don't care. I'm not saying that I, like, this has nothing to do with that.

It's simply comparing the two, instances. I'm like, okay, this doesn't make sense to me. Yeah. No, that's a really good point. That leads to this question. Oh, there you go. Sorry, cut you off from Liz's carbs, or Liz's carbs, as we say a lot as well. How many steps back to Jazzy take this episode? That reaction was wild. She plummeted. She's at zero. Back to square one. Yeah, completely back to square one. She had made some progress. And again, I think it was just in light of watching Angels downfall. It's like okay well i understand why jazzy's here now it's still bizarre to me that they have a bachelor at party for a friend of i think that's insane especially a friend of that's only been there

for a season but we rationalized it because it made sense and producers weren't really sure i don't know what they're doing with jazzy yeah she she's all the way back to square one for me i think there's more to that i think jazelle that's josell trying to get under the skin of some of the other people i think maybe i think that's her getting under the skin of kearna and stacey being like this is what I'm doing for Jazzy I didn't do this for you guys I don't think it was that deep I think it was a or do you want to go deeper into the move

did she bring Jazzy there to celebrate her bachelor's party so we could talk about what she's going on with her marriage and infidelity maybe maybe possibility oh this is a great point I forgot about this from Kay Looker Woods now Kay what were those behind bars sunglasses on the boat I have no yeah those were like the old Kanye

like what tour was that the black light for no that's not what it was called it was with riana but yeah that whole kanya tour back in like oh eight those sunglasses went like triple platinum that wasn't diamonds or forever was it diamonds no no it was i went to that at the at the spectrum wow before connie lost his fucking mind what yeah i think he went to that one too actually but uh no this was the one that was over camden that was before him or riana got like that massive i got you um but yeah I have no idea what their sunglasses were. I don't understand them.

I imagine you can't drive with them, though. Yeah, I don't know. We'll do one more in here if we can find a good one. This is a good one. This is more of a statement. But from Zero, Lucy F, while Angels is a bit of a downer, I can't stop thinking that she just had a baby. We agree, but we still have to do our job.

Yeah, yeah, we do. And again, like I said earlier in the episode, I understand, and I can excuse the mood swing, I can excuse some of the overreactions because I get that, especially going towards what Giselle was trying to do. That makes sense to me. It's all the other inconsistencies. And it's the fact, just the sheer fact that she doesn't understand what show she's on,

that's really irritating. Agreed. Agreed. It's not, it's nothing that crazy either. She's not like, it's the lack of understanding of this is a housewife show. The idea that when you're talking to us and confessionals in the audience,

like can you guys see how mean they're being like you guys get it and we're like what what's happening that's the issue yeah big miss on that one yeah we're gonna see i'm i'm curious again the show is doing fine like everything's fine i'm still looking forward to it every week same it's which is more of a testament to the rest of the cast that this is not holding us back because on any other or not any other show but a lot of other shows we would feel bogged down i don't i'm still enjoying it. And it's just more of a question of what's next. Like, how do we navigate away from this? And I don't know what the answer to that is. It's going to be interesting to watch. I mean, I know we're going to have to do the Monique and Chris Samuel's shit. And Stacey's going to be in the

middle of that. But I hope Monique's like, oh, I don't hear. That would be fucking hilarious. But I'm hopeful for that anyway because Stacey's in the middle of it. Like, it's going to be funny. Just her reactions to things and the way that she talks. And I think we already know where she's going with that we've all been saying it she doesn't know monique but the fuck does this matter who cares about any of this but i think because stacy's in the middle of it and she is a very good housewife i don't care like it could be the dumbest storyline ever but if stacy's involved i'm tuning it but monique is great too like i really liked monique i'm stoked she's coming back so i'm curious like she's not the kind of person either that's like gonna fucking scream at

Stacey over this, like from what I've seen of her in the past, and I watched, that was like my peak time was when she was on the show. I'm just thinking about like being off the show for a little while. Yeah. I mean, we've seen people come back to a show and just land flat. Gretcher's the shit out of it.

I'm looking at OC as a fucking franchise right now. But we've seen people come back that we haven't seen in a little while. I'm hopeful. I'm hopeful that she's still the same. I think she'll be good. This won't be much of a thing. Might just be a one-off conversation and then we kind of move forward. If she tries to make it a thing, then that's exactly what we're seeing. It's just making something out of nothing just to prove your comeback was worth it.

Hopefully we don't get that, though. She doesn't strike me as that person. I really liked Monique on this show. So she's pretty laid back, too. So this, to me, if she chalked up to we were divorced or we're separated on, whatever, that would be awesome. But we will see, we'll see what happens in the weeks to come. But that's all I got. You got anything else?

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